The 'Sugar' scare in MSM - another con for aspartame type poisons

[avid]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

[Daphne]

I have also heard that all mention of sugar in processed foods could also be GMO beet sugar. And since about 90% of beets are GMO, we are being poisoned coming and going between aspartame and GMOs....sigh...

[Sean Cullen]

Hi Avid,

Thanks for reminding us.

You are so right, and it is so sad.. It is almost impossible to buy, for example, fruit cordials that do not have aspartame or other neurotoxins instead of sugar. In fact, the manufacturers target people who are trying to shop healthily by putting in a large banner across the labels which read something like; "NO ADDED SUGAR!" while hiding in very small print on the back label 'aspartame'... It is getting harder and harder to buy food, even the staples, such as baked goods without aspartame or similar.

Now I have to say, refined (white) sugar is also a poison, but not as bad as that aspartame. UN-Refined cane sugar is healthiest if you can get it.

Personaly, I think people will have to start doing for themselves again. Bake their own bread, jucie their own food etc.

It is a total disgrace and this issue should be talked about much more. Maybe people will agree to boycott foods that contain aspartame and other neurotoxins,

Seán

[gnostic9]

Hi Avid,

Thanks for reminding us.

You are so right, and it is so sad.. It is almost impossible to buy, for example, fruit cordials that do not have aspartame or other neurotoxins instead of sugar. In fact, the manufacturers target people who are trying to shop healthily by putting in a large banner across the labels which read something like; "NO ADDED SUGAR!" while hiding in very small print on the back label 'aspartame'... It is getting harder and harder to buy food, even the staples, such as baked goods without aspartame or similar.

Now I have to say, refined (white) sugar is also a poison, but not as bad as that aspartame. Refined cane sugar is healthiest if you can get it.

Personaly, I think people will have to start doing for themselves again. Bake their own bread, jucie their own food etc.

It is a total disgrace and this issue should be talked about much more. Maybe people will agree to boycott foods that contain aspartame and other neurotoxins,

Seán Hello sean, and thank you for this. My own feeling is, if we as individuals project Love into everything we eat and drink. it will change the negative structure. Let us start to be what we dream of! Love peace and joy to all at Avalon!

[Erich]

Grow stevia in your yard. It requires almost no care and tastes better than sugar.

[golden lady]

You are so right, and it is so sad.. It is almost impossible to buy, for example, fruit cordials that do not have aspartame or other neurotoxins instead of sugar. In fact, the manufacturers target people who are trying to shop healthily by putting in a large banner across the labels which read something like; "NO ADDED SUGAR!" while hiding in very small print on the back label 'aspartame'... It is getting harder and harder to buy food, even the staples, such as baked goods without aspartame or similar.



I can't help but think of all the poor Mums who think they are doing the right thing and buying into this!!
Aspartame is even in the ordinary squash. Makes my blood boil. Choice is becoming more and more limited.
DIY is defiantly the way to go, that is ,if you can afford it!!

[greybeard]

There is much evidence that sugar and aspartame are not healthy to say the least.
Best to do without both if possible.
Its not necessary to consume processed food or soft drinks.
Blessing food does work-- that's been scientifically proved.

Chris

[Johnny]

I avoid any kind of processed food and light products if I can (I know I don't die if I eat it :) but I never buy it )
I like butter, eggs, fat, meat, sugar, milk (the good old kind), but also vegetables. I smoke, I like a beer now and then, (more when I was 'young'),
I have not been examined by a doctor since I joined the navy in 1963, I am never seek, I don't care what the 'science' say about health (nor),
I am retired, I have a good health and I am happy :)

Johnny

Edit: OH, I forgot, I am a big consumer of cheese :)

[enfoldedblue]

I use mainly raw honey, sometimes stevia, evaporated cane juice (rapadura, panella), or coconut sugar. Artificial sweeteners, white sugar, and high fructose corn syrup I avoid completely. It would make me sad when I would see kids at my son's preschool being given low fat food with artificial sweeteners by parents who I knew were trying to do the right thing :( .

[conk]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

[enfoldedblue]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

I am not sure about xylitol. I have read many things that claim it is highly processed and often made from gm corn (rather than tradirtional birch bark) and thus should be avoided. but overall i agree...all sugar should be used sparingly. It should only be a small part of our diet.

[13th Warrior]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

So you only eat protein and fat?

[DeDukshyn]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

I am not sure about xylitol. I have read many things that claim it is highly processed and often made from gm corn (rather than tradirtional birch bark) and thus should be avoided. but overall i agree...all sugar should be used sparingly. It should only be a small part of our diet.

Xylitol is one of the better ones for certain - but in moderation -- excess can irritate your GI tract. The good thing about sugar alcohols (like xylitol) don't feed microorganisms.

My defense against sugar and sweet artificial chemicals is to avoid anything sweet. I generally have come to dislike very sweet foods. It seems more an addiction to me than anything, because after I went cold turkey on sweet tasting stuff, my cravings eventually completely vanished.

If people want sweets, eat some fruit - at least you'll be getting nutrients with your sweets ;)

[conk]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

I am not sure about xylitol. I have read many things that claim it is highly processed and often made from gm corn (rather than tradirtional birch bark) and thus should be avoided. but overall i agree...all sugar should be used sparingly. It should only be a small part of our diet.

What you have read is true, that's why you have to buy from a good source that produces it from the Birch tree. The best of the best is The Ultimate Sugar by the company that produces an amazing powdered meal called The Ultimate Meal.

[conk]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

So you only eat protein and fat?I see you over there, you're trying to trick me! ;) Of course I don't eat only protein and fat, but anyone could and maintain a very healthful lifestyle. The body can make the necessary glucose from the proteins. Many indigenous cultures eat predominately fats and meat. They have no disease. Many natural researchers are beginning to believe that our diets should be upwards of 50% to 70% fat! It does have to be from electrically alive, unprocessed and unheated fats (Dr. Johanna Budwig for a serious lesson on fats).

Lots of green plant material is a boost to any diet, not totally because of it's nutrients. The Sun imparts distinct energies into the plants, which the plants then share with us. Minimal cooking or no cooking is best. Will, I'll shut up, I'm buzzing on my new Longevity Coffee.

[13th Warrior]

Yes and all those plants are using the sun to make...wait for it......that's right sugar.

[DeDukshyn]

Yes and all those plants are using the sun to make...wait for it......that's right sugar.

Plants make sugar to feed and provide the energy to make the nutrients, not to be refined and processed for human consumption.

But like I said - people should really get their sugar from whole foods - fruits have nice balance of sugar and nutrients (vitamins, bioflavonoids, fibre, etc)

If I need to sweeten up my spareribs on the grill, I squeeze an apple over it. Apple and pork goes great! That said, I do put about 1/4th of spoon of raw sugar in morning coffee.

[13th Warrior]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

So you only eat protein and fat?I see you over there, you're trying to trick me! ;) Of course I don't eat only protein and fat, but anyone could and maintain a very healthful lifestyle. The body can make the necessary glucose from the proteins. Many indigenous cultures eat predominately fats and meat. They have no disease. Many natural researchers are beginning to believe that our diets should be upwards of 50% to 70% fat! It does have to be from electrically alive, unprocessed and unheated fats (Dr. Johanna Budwig for a serious lesson on fats).

Lots of green plant material is a boost to any diet, not totally because of it's nutrients. The Sun imparts distinct energies into the plants, which the plants then share with us. Minimal cooking or no cooking is best. Will, I'll shut up, I'm buzzing on my new Longevity Coffee.

Now you've done it; see there you said glucose; that's sugar (which is death; right).

[conk]

A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.

So you only eat protein and fat?I see you over there, you're trying to trick me! ;) Of course I don't eat only protein and fat, but anyone could and maintain a very healthful lifestyle. The body can make the necessary glucose from the proteins. Many indigenous cultures eat predominately fats and meat. They have no disease. Many natural researchers are beginning to believe that our diets should be upwards of 50% to 70% fat! It does have to be from electrically alive, unprocessed and unheated fats (Dr. Johanna Budwig for a serious lesson on fats).

Lots of green plant material is a boost to any diet, not totally because of it's nutrients. The Sun imparts distinct energies into the plants, which the plants then share with us. Minimal cooking or no cooking is best. Will, I'll shut up, I'm buzzing on my new Longevity Coffee.

Now you've done it; see there you said glucose; that's sugar (which is death; right). Ah come on. You know that's petty. You know the context of the discussion. Totally different. What the body produces is exactly what it needs and is more a nutrient than a sugar.

Even fruit sugar is harmful in excess. Fortunately the fiber slows the absorption of the sugar and keeps the insulin from spiking. That's the main issue with sugar is the hormonal aggravation. It totally confuses the endocrine system and results in metabolic syndromes, heart disease, diabetes, and more.

And never forget that cancers favorite food is sugar.

[13th Warrior]

But Conk, you said "sugar is sugar is sugar" remember that?

[DeDukshyn]

Even fruit sugar is harmful in excess.....

Refined fructose (commonly known as "fruit sugar") is usually made from GMO corn (Yuck!), and has horrific effects on you liver and blood sugar levels. However, as you said -- add some whole fruit to the mix, and that "sugar" does become a bit of a different animal -- as I think 13th Warrior was pointing out; as certainly eating corn isn't a cause for concern - as long as you can find some roundup free stuff.

[conk]

Even fruit sugar is harmful in excess.....

Refined fructose (commonly known as "fruit sugar") is usually made from GMO corn (Yuck!), and has horrific effects on you liver and blood sugar levels. However, as you said -- add some whole fruit to the mix, and that "sugar" does become a bit of a different animal -- as I think 13th Warrior was pointing out; as certainly eating corn isn't a cause for concern - as long as you can find some roundup free stuff.

I would disagree. Corn is a grain. It is simply sugar and undigestable fiber, with a tiny amount of protein. The detrimental effects of grains can be studied from a large number of sources.

The sugar in fruits, as you stated, is frutose. It is hard for the liver to digest, so small amounts are all that we should eat.

Yes, 13th, sugar is sugar. It shortens your lifespan. Remember all the hoopla over reduced calorie diets and their effect on longevity? Dramatically cutting back on how much food you consume can increase your lifespan. The effect is attributed to hormone control. The same effect can be obtained by eliminating sugar.

[13th Warrior]

Conk,

As an endurance athlete, I know the benefits that sugar provides me as a energy dense and easily digested energy source.

You think it's poison/death when in reality it's the primary energy transfer system of almost all living things.

If you are a person who is glucose resistant; you do need to be very conscious of your sugar intake and you need to slow down your digestion of it.

[DeDukshyn]

Even fruit sugar is harmful in excess.....

Refined fructose (commonly known as "fruit sugar") is usually made from GMO corn (Yuck!), and has horrific effects on you liver and blood sugar levels. However, as you said -- add some whole fruit to the mix, and that "sugar" does become a bit of a different animal -- as I think 13th Warrior was pointing out; as certainly eating corn isn't a cause for concern - as long as you can find some roundup free stuff.

I would disagree. Corn is a grain. It is simply sugar and undigestable fiber, with a tiny amount of protein. The detrimental effects of grains can be studied from a large number of sources.

The sugar in fruits, as you stated, is frutose. It is hard for the liver to digest, so small amounts are all that we should eat.

Yes, 13th, sugar is sugar. It shortens your lifespan. Remember all the hoopla over reduced calorie diets and their effect on longevity? Dramatically cutting back on how much food you consume can increase your lifespan. The effect is attributed to hormone control. The same effect can be obtained by eliminating sugar.

I am not saying that corn is bad for you, I am saying the most common source of "fructose" in processed foods is from (GMO) corn. if you see "fructose" on an ingredient list or in a bag at the grocery store, it was refined from corn, especially the "high fructose corn syrup" (obviously) and liquid invert sugar - etc. It's all fructose, and it is bad for you liver in excess. And by excess, I mean we eat tons of fructose as it is hidden in our foods as different named items -- this quantity is very bad and can cause fatty liver.

The qty in fruits is minuscule compared to what is found as sweeteners and additives in our processed western diet. A few fruits in your diet is like a nothing in the sugar world compared to all the sugar that is added into our processed foods. Rid the processed crap and introduce some fruit, and you end up nutrient positive by a long shot, over the previous, without any major issues. Keep in mind a babies diet is mostly sugar from mama's milk - there's not too much carbs or fibre in there at all, and that is what is best for them or it wouldn't be this way.

[DeDukshyn]

Conk,

As an endurance athlete, I know the benefits that sugar provides me as a energy dense and easily digested energy source.

You think it's poison/death when in reality it's the primary energy transfer system of almost all living things.

If you are a person who is glucose resistant; you do need to be very conscious of your sugar intake and you need to slow down your digestion of it.


I agree, sugar is not a poison, yet having a chronic elevated blood sugar level is poisonous to the body. A human body can turn many nutrients, but almost always sugar if it is available, into d-ribose, which in turn gets directly converted into ATP. ATP is the only energy unit used by cells, thus without it your body won't function well, and eventually cease to function. Your body can create sugars and thus ATP from fats and proteins, but this is highly inefficient, and one's body will have to go ketonic to properly and consistent get sugars (for ATP) from protiens and fats. This is how Inuit can manage to eat almost strictly fat and meat and not require fruits and vegetables. This is also the premise behind the Atkins diet.

At the end of the day your body needs ATP as a cellular unit of energy and that comes from sugars, however you body ends up acquiring sugar.

Again the issue isn't really sugar itself, but the ill treatment of our own bodies (mostly due to "westernized" foods), in context to it.

[13th Warrior]

Finally someone else understands cellular chemistry (i'm not talking about the battery in your phone; for those who don't get it).