View Full Version : An apparent HAARP data misinterpretation on weather
Carmody
11th January 2014, 03:18
We see that someone has noticed that the weather patterns of the pacific are unusual. Abnormal to impossible. That time after time, the storms which would bring radiation from Fukushima to the west coast of the USA....are directed to the coast of BC, into Canada and Alaska, and the Alaska panhandle region. Over and over, in weather patterns that cannot, according to the known records of weather, ever be possible to exist.
The article interprets this as being intentional, to not spike riots or whatnot, about radiation. (In the USA)
(do your research, I'm simply looking at what they say and their understanding) (but what that weather is DOING, is clear, and that is the focus here)
http://www.rense.com/general96/pacstorms.html
One example, from many:
http://www.rense.com/general96/satellite/weatherwest2c.jpg
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They missed the biggest point of all.
The gulf of Alaska, where the storms seem to be peaking and dumping their energy, their radiation.
The pacific is apparently dead already. ([URL="http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/)
And fools looking for fish are strip mining the reefs, the last bastion of the life in the ocean, killing the ability for it to recover. Instead of going home empty handed with no tuna, they are killing the reefs for fish they simply dump overboard.
Back to the story at hand.
That particular spot, for the vast number of years that it has been spoken on, as a subject. the gulf of Alaska....it is known that this is THE singular breeding place for the vast number of plankton that fire up the entire ecosystem of the pacific ocean.
That if those plankton die off, then the algae production in the pacific will bloom, as they are not there to eat it.
Then the ocean will choke, no oxygen at the surface, all algae, and no energy can get below.
Then the heat of the sun reflects into space, and the cooling begins.
Then, in a few years, at most, it is considered that an ice age would begin. One that is swift in forming.
IIRC, 10 years, at best.
This is the exact sort of scenario that was spoken of, what...over 20 years ago?... when people spoke of 'how do you create a ice age, how would it be done?' That is the scenario that they came up with. The big if. If those plankton breeding grounds were ever threatened.
So this may require a warning of "hey, look over here". An FYI, kinda thing. Which I am doing right here. Something that needs to be investigated, and spread about into the public eye.
Flash
11th January 2014, 03:28
Yes, not only ice age, but lack of oxygen as well, since planktons are the main creating source of oxygen on the planet for all living species. I read somewhere that we were already at 18 percent oxygen content in the air, compared to 35% few centuries ago, and at 15%, humans cannot breath anymore. I got to find the articles.
Here:
Further back, the oxygen levels were even greater. Robert Sloan has listed the percentage of oxygen in samples of dinosaur-era amber as: 28% (130m years ago), 29% (115m years ago), 35% (95m years ago), 33% (88m years ago), 35% (75m years ago), 35% (70m years ago), 35% (68m years ago), 31% (65.2m years ago), and 29% (65m years ago).
Professor Ian Plimer of Adelaide University and Professor Jon Harrison of the University of Arizona concur. Like most other scientists they accept that oxygen levels in the atmosphere in prehistoric times averaged around 30% to 35%, compared to only 21% today – and that the levels are even less in densely populated, polluted city centres and industrial complexes, perhaps only 15 % or lower.
................The effects of long term oxygen deprivation on the brain, called cerebral hypoxia, are known and some sound reminiscent of the general rise of stupidity in the industrialized world.
Professor Ervin Laszlo (quoted in Tatchell’s article) writes:
Evidence from prehistoric times indicates that the oxygen content of pristine nature was above the 21% of total volume that it is today. It has decreased in recent times due mainly to the burning of coal in the middle of the last century. Currently the oxygen content of the Earth’s atmosphere dips to 19% over impacted areas, and it is down to 12 to 17% over the major cities. At these levels it is difficult for people to get sufficient oxygen to maintain bodily health: it takes a proper intake of oxygen to keep body cells and organs, and the entire immune system, functioning at full efficiency. At the levels we have reached today cancers and other degenerative diseases are likely to develop. And at 6 to 7% life can no longer be sustained.
The effects of long term oxygen deprivation on the brain, called cerebral hypoxia, are known and some sound reminiscent of the general rise of stupidity in the industrialized world.
Carmody
11th January 2014, 03:41
yeah, the lower oxygen leads to lower oxygen uptake, which leads to slow healing diseased bodies that live short lives.
If underground dumbs exist, the natural increase in air pressure would greatly increase oxygen uptake and lead to perfect health, cell regeneration and lead to incredibly long lives. And giantism would be the norm. To never stop growing. Thus 7-8-9 feet tall. Which fits the tales of the folks who live deep in the earth, 4-5 miles down, or 6km down. The experiments have been done to show this, and are on the record.
We can fake that on the surface, via hyperbaric chambers, which have become very popular. All over eBay, they are. Word on this is getting out. What is apparently needed, though, is a doubling of the 14.7psi of sea level pressure. If one adds in the increased oxygen, then the norm of '900 years' is the deal. This is similar to the tale about what alchemical gold or the philosopher's stone is supposed to bring the lifespan to.
It is the potential for an ice age from this, that may be the greater issue of the moment.
I have a relative who worked at greater than 5000 feet below the earth's surface, for about 10 hours a day. His body changed dramatically. For the better. He said the big problem was the heat, if the cooling systems failed, the heat would quickly kill you and then slow cook you.
Hervé
11th January 2014, 03:46
Check that weather pattern going round and round:
http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/satellite/polar/index.php?type=polar-ir-48
Carmody
11th January 2014, 06:02
To revisit your post, Flash, that may be the why behind the enforced attachment to fossil fuels. Not money, but purposeful in other ways. The fossil fuels are so heavily enforced, that anyone trying to stop it, is killed, for the most part.
doodah
11th January 2014, 21:10
Carmody, isn't this one of those pivot points in time where the gathered focused consciousness of very many concerned people can be put to use to break up that particular pattern happening in the Pacific?
A weather result of that pattern is that the winds are forced upward then down through the center of Canada, pushing the jetstream all the way south to Texas. We've had 3 waves of this pattern already this winter. The severe cold so far south has resulted from this.
I am a believer in conscious focus and intention. Please, all of us, let us intend that this pattern be broken. (also to help the plankton and life in the oceans, of course)
doodah
11th January 2014, 21:22
Also... Carmody, in your opinion, what is holding that pattern in place? I'm curious what you think.
Bobd and I have discussed this a bit; he has speculated that maybe there is some undersea volcanic activity going on, heating the water, causing upward-moving air currents? If so, could that be a HAARP manipulation of some kind?
Milneman
11th January 2014, 22:00
FYI:
Links to a CBC Radio 1 Archive of a top notch program:
As It Happens - The Tuesday Edition
Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Highlights Include:
Part One:
* Dalton McGuinty. Two Liberal heavyweights - PEI Premier Robert Ghiz, and political strategist Warren Kinsella - reflect on the Ontario Premier's decision to step down.
* Geoengineering Folo. Those behind the controversial dumping of tonnes of iron sulfate off the coast of Haida Gwaii say they have regenerated their salmon fishery.
http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/add-category/2012/10/16/as-it-happens---the-tuesday-edition/
Alternatively, try this:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/iron-fertilization-project-in-pacific-known-to-government-1.1128706
Iron fertilization project in Pacific known to government
Environment Canada says it will investigate unauthorized dumping
CBC News Posted: Oct 17, 2012 12:41 PM PT Last Updated: Oct 17, 2012 12:18 PM PT
Government bodies knew about a controversial experimental project in which 100 tonnes of a dust-like material enriched with iron was dumped into the ocean off B.C.'s north coast, the project's leader says.
John Disney, the president of the Haida Salmon Restoration Corp, which initiated the $2-million ocean fertilization project, told CBC News that various federal government departments were aware of his controversial plan.
Flash
12th January 2014, 02:20
i listen to your links and it is soooooo interesting. It is sad that we have to wait to go through discussions about politicians before this topic comes, about Iron oxyde spread in the ocean to push growth of plankton, and it did wake up all nature to replenish. Sooooo interesting.
And they got stop by agreement signed internationally for not doing geoengeniring (as if PTB was not doing it), so they were stopped and are facing bans and lawsuits iin violation of several agreements Canadian signed, it seems, even if the Canadian govenrment was aware of what they were doing. He says they did not brake any agreements but are being sued and not protected by the federal govenrment..
He says companies like his have to get money to invest and it needs a lot of money and the community did put their money this time, otherwise they have to go with large Financial investors and they lose control and it becomes a money venture.
Very interesting, this John Dysney.
Milneman
13th January 2014, 03:15
Flash...just when you think it stops there....get a load of this. The list...goes on...and on...and on....
I do not believe Harper is in charge any more.
I do not believe that parliament or the senate, or the Governor General are in charge. I did not ever believe that the day would come when I would say those things, but look at this:
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/blog/federal-programs-and-research-facilities-that-have-been-shut-down-or-had-th
CBC reporting on the organizations and programs the federal government is cutting: all, for the most part, environmental.
Sudhanshu
14th January 2014, 12:11
who said the "pacific was dead already"?do your research,i recently read an article by deep sea news refuting that absurd claim,and i do not believe that they have any motive whatsoever to spread disinformation.
Carmody
14th January 2014, 16:46
Also... Carmody, in your opinion, what is holding that pattern in place? I'm curious what you think.
Bobd and I have discussed this a bit; he has speculated that maybe there is some undersea volcanic activity going on, heating the water, causing upward-moving air currents? If so, could that be a HAARP manipulation of some kind?
in one thread speaking of the pacific radiation, I spoke of the possibility, just one angle it could be seen as.....it could be a very effective cover for underwater nuclear war. To go after any alien bases that are in the deepest oceans, at the deepest points.
Since the oceans are the vast majority of the surface, the larger numbers of the given dimensional crossing points, or energy points (ley lines and vortex points), are deep in the oceans. Fukushima is a very effective cover for such a nightmarish scenario.
Carmody
14th January 2014, 16:50
Flash...just when you think it stops there....get a load of this. The list...goes on...and on...and on....
I do not believe Harper is in charge any more.
I do not believe that parliament or the senate, or the Governor General are in charge. I did not ever believe that the day would come when I would say those things, but look at this:
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/blog/federal-programs-and-research-facilities-that-have-been-shut-down-or-had-th
CBC reporting on the organizations and programs the federal government is cutting: all, for the most part, environmental.
It is the enforced beginnings of creeping fascism, by a corporate/oil/cia/bush/nazi/cfr/etc stooge, known as Stephen Harper. This is the push toward the north American union.
Hervé
14th January 2014, 17:40
The destruction of hard won knowledge...there won't be anything left to compare to:
Closures of valuable fisheries libraries worry aquatic scientists
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By Igor I. Solar (http://www.digitaljournal.com/user/687014) Jan 10, 2014 in Science (http://www.digitaljournal.com/science)
Ottawa (http://maps.google.com/?q=Ottawa%2C+ON%2C+Canada&z=4) - The Canadian Department of Fisheries and Oceans is dismantling most of its library system. Many documents are being digitized, however scientists claim thousands of valuable books and scientific reports are being given away or sent to the dumpster.
The Harper government is shutting down seven of the 11 Canadian Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) libraries. Some of them, such as the library at the Pacific Biological Station (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/facilities-installations/pbs-sbp/index-eng.html) in Nanaimo, BC, the Eric Marshall Aquatic Research Library in Winnipeg, MB, and the 100-year-old library at the St. Andrews Biological Station in St. Andrews, New Brunswick, are already closed (http://www.canada.com/Federal+cuts+library/8987930/story.html).
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Full article: http://www.digitaljournal.com/tech/science/closures-of-valuable-fisheries-libraries-worry-aquatic-scientists/article/365462
New Democrats Press DFO Minister on Library Closures
'Allegations of effective book burning are very troubling to Canadians': NDP
By Andrew Nikiforuk (http://thetyee.ca/Bios/Andrew_Nikiforuk/), Today, TheTyee.ca
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NDP Science and Technology Critic Kennedy Stewart (MP Burnaby-Douglas) co-signed letter demanding answers of DFO Minister Gail Shea.
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Nation's Library Advocate Raises Questions about Federal 'Culling' (http://thetyee.ca/News/2014/01/13/Library-Culling-Questions/)
Canadian Library Association disturbed by closures, wants proof digitizing is happening.
Scientists Say DFO's Library Closure Defence Doesn't Add Up (http://thetyee.ca/News/2014/01/08/Scientists-Say-DFOs-Library-Closure-Defence-Doesnt-Add-Up/)
Minister Shea fails to convince researchers trove of information is preserved.
Secret Memo Casts Doubt on Feds' Claims for Science Library Closures (http://thetyee.ca/News/2013/12/30/Harper-Library-Closures/)
Goal stated is 'culling' research, not preserving and sharing through digitization.
Read more: Federal Politics (http://thetyee.ca/Topic/Federal-Politics/), Science + Tech (http://thetyee.ca/Topic/ScienceTech/)
The federal NDP has written a letter to Fisheries and Oceans Minister Gail Shea expressing concerns about the culling of seven world famous libraries and seeks clarification on what happened to their collections.
"Recent media reports have indicated that valuable and irreplaceable research was permanently destroyed, including being thrown into the dumpster," reads the letter by Kennedy Stewart (MP Burnaby-Douglas) and Robert Chisholm (Dartmouth-Cole Harbour), which can be viewed here. (http://www.thetyee.ca/Documents/2014/01/13/Letter%20to%20Minister%20Shea%20-%20DFO%20Libraries.pdf)
"These allegations of effective 'book burning' are very disturbing to Canadians."
The letter asks the minister to explain what happened to grey literature or thousands of small reports published privately that contained vital scientific and baseline information.
The letter asks for a detailed account of how the libraries were culled -- "specifically why wasn't a process in place to secure a new home for all research material prior to the closure of the libraries at either universities or other public institutes?"
"As well, what exact percentage of the materials at the seven libraries in question were released or discarded?"
The government says it closed seven Department of Fisheries and Oceans libraries to save just over $400,000 a year and that the public wasn't using them. But the libraries were primarily designed to serve the needs of federal scientists doing research in the public interest.
Bush did something similar
After the U.S. administration of George Bush Jr. attempted to close a half dozen environmental science libraries at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, the American Library Association and scientists cried foul and contested the move.
Like the Harper government, the Bush Administration claimed that it was closing environmental libraries to save money and that it was dispersing, disposing of, and digitizing library materials in a rational manner.
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Full article: http://thetyee.ca/News/2014/01/14/New-Democrats-on-DFO-Library-Closures/
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