Kerry Cassidy: U.S run by Space Aliens/Nazis..!

[jackovesk]

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14 Jan 2014

As predicted in my prior article (http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/1979-tall-whites-vs-nordics-and-aldebaran-visitors), various news services are now wildly grappling with the Iranian News Service FARS story reporting that the Snowden files (according to an FSB report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Security_Service)) contain evidence that the U.S. is run by Nazi space aliens... Which is of course true... also known as the Bush Cabal/Rothschild/Illuminati group.

While this is nothing new to Camelot (with the clarification regarding Nordics/Aldebarans and Tall Whites kept in mind) and those viewing our numerous interviews and whistleblower testimony in this regard, it is nice to see even a tongue-in-cheek disclosure being bandied about in the Press. What a serious journalist might ask is who then is running China, Russia, the Vatican and Israel not to mention Iran, after all.

The Washington Post and Forbes appear somewhat concerned if only in an off-base half-hearted way:

.."Yes, this story is highly entertaining, as are many of the bizarre conspiracy theories proposed by official or semi-official news agencies in authoritarian states. But there's also a more serious undercurrent here. A worldview that sees the U.S. as an evil hegemonic force so irrationally driven toward global domination that it must be run by space aliens is not a worldview that is predisposed toward negotiation or accommodation." -- Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/01/13/iranian-news-agency-says-the-u-s-is-secretly-run-by-nazi-space-aliens-really/)

..."This being a crazy conspiracy theory, naturally the Russians are behind it. The alleged alien invasion was revealed in a report by Russia’s FSB spy agency, which found “incontrovertible proof’ that an ‘alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda’ is driving U.S. domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945,” said the Iranian news service." FORBES (http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2014/01/13/iran-says-tall-white-space-aliens-control-america/) (contributor: Michael Peck) ... who claims he covers "Defense and National Security" for the magazine. If he only knew what he's been missing he would be more than embarassed to even make such a claim.

Probably at a loss on how to spin this story, the news services have no choice but to make the claims seem like a Russian fabrication aimed at 'objectifying' the U.S. as an enemy, in their minds. While "crazy conspiraacy theories" are usually based on truth in my estimation, the display of journalistic National Security Ass Kissing is still apparently highly regarded across all mainstram press outlets. May I suggest a bit of hard journalistic investigation as a quick cure? More than a few nights watching Camelot interviews and reading Jim Marrs, Joseph Farrell and a host of other well respected investigators for more on what's really going on.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/1983-u-s-run-by-space-aliens-nazis-well-duh

[Sidney]

The sad thing is that almost no one (in mainstream society anyway) will take it seriously.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

"Away with the fairies" is how mainstream media and half the general public see the so called alternative media, and maybe rightly so

[Agape]

Isn't it step forwards if someone in Iran started to read Project Camelot webpage and the Examiner ?

Are we on the verge of bigger scandal than we ever imagined ?

Who wants to be blamed for WWII , WWIII ...

:pray:

[johnf]

I ran into a couple of versions of this yesterday.
I am a little surprised that it took this long to be talked about here.
I have had several conversations over the years how the personality of the United States in it's official
activities is rapidly heading in the same direction as Nazi Germany, and is following the same patterns,
not a lot of people see it, but some do, and that is a beautiful thing.
The rule of law can mean freedom, but was used by the Roman empire to enslave, as it was by the Nazi empire, and more recently by various US figureheads from Daddy Bush on down.
The real thing is that the continuous invasion of privacy and counties is going on on the ground and needs to be addressed there.
The truth in this particular message will be heard by those who have researched the alien information rather deeply , and the majority will probably just laugh or ignore it.
But I do think this is progress, and that the truth will continue to show up more loudly as the days go by.

JohnF

[apokalypse]

i don't know about nazi but the world run by some alien is possible which i'm not debunk or believe in it but considered it as unknown fact.

[johnf]

Being run by ,I suspect is not accurate.
The US having made a deal with, thinking it will be well taken care of
whereas the other side will take even more control when they can is probably more like it.

JF

[Carmody]

At first we hunt animals with rocks, or teeth. But, actually, it is also the act and art of war.

At first the animal does not recognize the dangers, and may be such an easy prey that it can be approached at a slow open walk. The animal learns, it advances. it detects. It changes it's instinctual and learned behaviors.

Then the predator uses stealth. The art of hunting develops toward stealth, and disguise.

The predator advances faster than the prey, or is more advanced than the prey when the two meet. (possibly for even the first time) The predator has to advance faster than the prey, in order for the imposed system to function.

Sometimes, the predator is so advanced, it can corral the prey, and then breed the prey. To lull the prey and, over generations...train the prey to accept captivity. Eventual control over all aspects of the prey. All.

In the art of war, with human against human, which humans consider to be the highest level of 'war', we learn to understand the different components, and to be alert to their presence or potential presence.

We have to go back to our beginnings of war, and what it really means, to understand, for example, that chickens and cattle..are actually, right now......at war with humans.

We have used our essentially overpowering levels of intellect and capacity to corral the cow and the chicken, and commit very controlled acts of war against them. A form of total war.

If we look at ET connections with these sort of eyes.... and consider....overall capacities in humans to degrade themselves and commit such acts of corralling humans, and doing the same thing we do to cows and chickens - to fellow humans...it may then be possible to begin to come to terms with what is going on out there.

This sort of clandestine form of controlled and corralled war has been done to humans and by humans to other various human groups..for thousands of years, due to the different levels of personal capacity in humans for thought and observation.

The most effective form of war is one where the animal, or the human, has no idea that war is being waged, and those humans may never find out that a war has been waged, until it is well over. Or they may never understand it it all, like chickens and cows. The chickens and cows get a bit riled up now and then, but they don't quite catch the shape of the thing. That is, until any eminent end point. Maybe. In most cases...Farmers (and their families) have a nearly perfected and refined understanding of hidden modern warfare, far more than any people siting on their couch in a city, watching sports or reality shows..will ever begin to have.


Modern warfare is based on the efficiency aspects of hidden war, clandestine war. Open war, patriotic war, is just a way of alerting the herd that it needs to move in a specific direction, or to get it's attention so it can be culled or lulled, for whatever is the more hidden reasons of the public motion.

When hidden battles occur, sometimes one can see the tiniest bits of the hidden side, the true side, by paying attention to the oddities that are played off in public as not being real, or played off as being 'against' the group. The open political and public stances of the systems are the herd control aspects and may have very little to do with the real war.

Hidden war is the real war. Hidden war is the real war. Hidden war is the real war.

The real war never emerges, at all, until the end game, where combatants get either very sure of themselves, or the other participants become desperate, and engage in exposure.

If..an alien group who came to this planet, decided to wage war against humans or to use humans, or to covet any part of what humans are, and the alien group also possess the desire and ability to simply take - with overt pressures and acts... then they would necessarily work their way into utilizing the psychological and biological systems that exist in humans today. Clandestine methodologies would be the norm. Efficiency is the norm in evolved systems of conflict or war.

If some aliens came to earth and wanted to connect to humans in some fashion, with some form of equality, or sharing, in a state of knowing/openness being within each party, then they would approach via direct connection. But with what connection, what group would they connect with? By necessity and to adhere to the methods and ways of the human group, they would connect with governmental and other similar groups who hold the real levers in humanity.

Then comes all the other complex permutations of connection in their myriad forms. Humans have a history as long as their genetics, in jockeying for position, in systems of connection, war, control, etc.

This means that the connection to alien groups, due to it's sensitivity to humans in societal and cultural forms, and how aliens must integrate for either overt control, or for a meeting of governmental groups and minds....where both avenues of connection are based on human instinctual and learned behaviors..those cues of integration are going to be very subtle, and for the larger part, hidden or invisible.

This is an exceedingly simplistic explanation, but the kernel or core of the understanding required to be reached.... in order to understand any presented situation... is right there.

This is something akin to first year stuff at places like west point, or the environment that organized crime families might raise their children in, or the environment of the upbringing of children of the elite families. Very basic stuff. Like breathing and walking - Very basic, ground floor ways of being.

The fundamental mechanics of the animal side of being human, in their higher, more complex forms. Not that I agree with them, or think that they should exist in evolved systems.

Energy production and control of systems of open energy, is what blocks the system into a self loop, a self corral, at all levels, of remaining in animal predator/prey mode.

In evolved systems, they should not exist as they are ultimately detrimental to all, and are some of the final animal barriers to be overcome, in any form of a system of imposed or real resource restrictions. Animals are of this nature... and resource restriction or control, is the core aspect of remaining within such a repetitive closed loop of existing.


If one wishes to corral a group of humans so they self restrict and self corral, and self blind, then it is key to gain control of resource management, and any form of breaking free of resource management (academia, science, finance, religion, etc).

The silent war, the hidden war, the efficient war, is found in the area of technological control over energy production, or anything that might hint of it. Energy and energy restriction is the key point, going back to the very core reasons for the original evolution of the predator and prey.

Then, it is key to make sure that the humans that are in the closed system, the humans that are used to be those controls, those humans are created, raised, or led to believe that they are doing the right thing. They are the herd control within herd. Thus.... the secret societies, secret groups and elitist gatherings...and their tentacles in systems, all made up of people thinking they are doing the right thing.

Richard Hoagland's line 'the lie is different at every level'. Lies are inexpensive in the extreme.. and couched in the right terms, can energize and maintain themselves. Which means these lies... then are the tip of exposure of the hand of the control system within the 'humans that control all other humans'. Since those lies are never shared... and are hidden deep within the human controllers of humans... it is thus a self locking closed loop.

The next domino, is that the creation and enactment of hidden societies was and is absolutely key to maintenance of control of humanity.

[Carmody]

Thus, the detection and tearing down of all hidden groups in human systems of integration... and the pursuit and exposure, and implementation.... of free energy systems.

One might notice, if they look close enough... that these sort of things are the most closely guarded and protected of all.

To add, my connection, in minor ways, to the higher levels of this pyramid system of secret society control..those people are indicating through their acts and unspoken wordings and carrying of their intents...that they have been led to believe that the introduction of free energy systems will spell the end of humanity. This indicates the 'self locked loop' aspect of the hidden system of control.

If one thinks that they are dealing with a hidden and highly cunning predator mode, a socipoathology and psychopathology of such a nature, this is the path it will take, the mode it will be in.

When we look around, what do we see?

Exactly that scenario.

[Curt]

Wow. Carmody, I don't always see eye to eye with you, my friend. But this post ought to be required reading for everyone on Avalon. Incredible synopsis. Thank you.


At first we hunt animals with rocks, or teeth. But, actually, it is also the act and art of war.

At first the animal does not recognize the dangers, and may be such an easy prey that it can be approached at a slow open walk. The animal learns, it advances. it detects. It changes it's instinctual and learned behaviors.

Then the predator uses stealth. The art of hunting develops toward stealth, and disguise.

The predator advances faster than the prey, or is more advanced than the prey when the two meet. (possibly for even the first time) The predator has to advance faster than the prey, in order for the imposed system to function.

Sometimes, the predator is so advanced, it can corral the prey, and then breed the prey. To lull the prey and, over generations...train the prey to accept captivity. Eventual control over all aspects of the prey. All.

In the art of war, with human against human, which humans consider to be the highest level of 'war', we learn to understand the different components, and to be alert to their presence or potential presence.

We have to go back to our beginnings of war, and what it really means, to understand, for example, that chickens and cattle..are actually, right now......at war with humans.

We have used our essentially overpowering levels of intellect and capacity to corral the cow and the chicken, and commit very controlled acts of war against them. A form of total war.

If we look at ET connections with these sort of eyes.... and consider....overall capacities in humans to degrade themselves and commit such acts of corralling humans, and doing the same thing we do to cows and chickens - to fellow humans...it may then be possible to begin to come to terms with what is going on out there.

This sort of clandestine form of controlled and corralled war has been done to humans and by humans to other various human groups..for thousands of years, due to the different levels of personal capacity in humans for thought and observation.

The most effective form of war is one where the animal, or the human, has no idea that war is being waged, and those humans may never find out that a war has been waged, until it is well over. Or they may never understand it it all, like chickens and cows. The chickens and cows get a bit riled up now and then, but they don't quite catch the shape of the thing. That is, until any eminent end point. Maybe. In most cases...Farmers (and their families) have a nearly perfected and refined understanding of hidden modern warfare, far more than any people siting on their couch in a city, watching sports or reality shows..will ever begin to have.


Modern warfare is based on the efficiency aspects of hidden war, clandestine war. Open war, patriotic war, is just a way of alerting the herd that it needs to move in a specific direction, or to get it's attention so it can be culled or lulled, for whatever is the more hidden reasons of the public motion.

When hidden battles occur, sometimes one can see the tiniest bits of the hidden side, the true side, by paying attention to the oddities that are played off in public as not being real, or played off as being 'against' the group. The open political and public stances of the systems are the herd control aspects and may have very little to do with the real war.

Hidden war is the real war. Hidden war is the real war. Hidden war is the real war.

The real war never emerges, at all, until the end game, where combatants get either very sure of themselves, or the other participants become desperate, and engage in exposure.

If..an alien group who came to this planet, decided to wage war against humans or to use humans, or to covet any part of what humans are, and the alien group also possess the desire and ability to simply take - with overt pressures and acts... then they would necessarily work their way into utilizing the psychological and biological systems that exist in humans today. Clandestine methodologies would be the norm. Efficiency is the norm in evolved systems of conflict or war.

If some aliens came to earth and wanted to connect to humans in some fashion, with some form of equality, or sharing, in a state of knowing/openness being within each party, then they would approach via direct connection. But with what connection, what group would they connect with? By necessity and to adhere to the methods and ways of the human group, they would connect with governmental and other similar groups who hold the real levers in humanity.

Then comes all the other complex permutations of connection in their myriad forms. Humans have a history as long as their genetics, in jockeying for position, in systems of connection, war, control, etc.

This means that the connection to alien groups, due to it's sensitivity to humans in societal and cultural forms, and how aliens must integrate for either overt control, or for a meeting of governmental groups and minds....where both avenues of connection are based on human instinctual and learned behaviors..those cues of integration are going to be very subtle, and for the larger part, hidden or invisible.

This is an exceedingly simplistic explanation, but the kernel or core of the understanding required to to be reached.... in order to understand any presented situation... is right there.

This is something akin to first year stuff at places like west point, or the environment that organized crime families might raise their children in, or the environment of the upbringing of children of the elite families. Very basic stuff. Like breathing and walking - Very basic, ground floor ways of being.

The fundamental mechanics of the animal side of being human, in their higher, more complex forms. Not that I agree with them, or think that they should exist in evolved systems.

Energy production and control of systems of open energy, is what blocks the system into a self loop, a self corral, at all levels, of remaining in animal predator/prey mode.

In evolved systems, they should not exist as they are ultimately detrimental to all, and are some of the final animal barriers to be overcome, in any form of a system of imposed or real resource restrictions. Animals are of this nature... and resource restriction or control, is the core aspect of remaining within such a repetitive closed loop of existing.


If one wishes to corral a group of humans so they self restrict and self corral, and self blind, then it is key to gain control of resource management, and any form of breaking free of resource management (academia, science, finance, religion, etc).

The silent war, the hidden war, the efficient war, is found in the area of technological control over energy production, or anything that might hint of it. Energy and energy restriction is the key point, going back to the very core reasons for the original evolution of the predator and prey.

Then, it is key to make sure that the humans that are in the closed system, the humans that are used to be those controls, those humans are created, raised, or led to believe that they are doing the right thing. They are the herd control within herd. Thus.... the secret societies, secret groups and elitist gatherings...and their tentacles in systems, all made up of people thinking they are doing the right thing.

Richard Hoagland's line 'the lie is different at every level'. Lies are inexpensive in the extreme.. and couched in the right terms, can energize and maintain themselves. Which means these lies... then are the tip of exposure of the hand of the control system within the 'humans that control all other humans'. Since those lies are never shared... and are hidden deep within the human controllers of humans... it is thus a self locking closed loop.

The next domino, is that the creation and enactment of hidden societies was and is absolutely key to maintenance of control of humanity.

[Curt]

Actually, Carmody's post puts me in mind of the following video about 'Human Farming'.

It's another great synopsis of how the system 'works'. At just over ten minutes long, it covers a lot of ground.

Some will have seen it already. But for those who haven't, take a look.

Xbp6umQT58A

[noprophet]

Meme machines.
YfO_kZDwdu8
I always found it odd that memetics came so very close to being considered an academic study only to be dropped for becoming too controversial.

[Flash]

Carmody and Curtis

Those are, in my views, the best 3 posts ever on Avalon's forum.

This way of explaining is soooooo easy to comprehend - the best posts.

Please, please, please, make copies of them, put them in as many threads as you can, ask Bill and the mod team to let you do it, and repeat, repeat, repeat.

And thanks Jacko for bringing in the topic.

Thanks for this, with all my heart

Flash

[Belle]

As I was sitting the in local Department of Motor Vehicles waiting with a friend who was registering her new car, I observed how easy it was to set in place a system, train people to work within it, allow it to become self-sustaining, and move on to something else, returning only to tweak it here and there.

One only needs to 'see' the system to break it at any level along the line.

[apokalypse]

As I was sitting the in local Department of Motor Vehicles waiting with a friend who was registering her new car, I observed how easy it was to set in place a system, train people to work within it, allow it to become self-sustaining, and move on to something else, returning only to tweak it here and there.

One only needs to 'see' the system to break it at any level along the line.

this thought came to me everytime Education(schools) get mention and our actions of doing...working within the system and keep the people in the system.

[Flash]

Actually, Carmody's post puts me in mind of the following video about 'Human Farming'.

It's another great synopsis of how the system 'works'. At just over ten minutes long, it covers a lot of ground.

Some will have seen it already. But for those who haven't, take a look.

Xbp6umQT58A


this is a very good video, i have put it on my Facebook.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

It is interesting when anyone can get this debate started again in any way -- kudos actually to the Iranians for reminding America of the shadowy origins of nuclear power...

It is absolutely true that the Nazi Bell experiments did involve transmutation and radioactive/toxic materials, such as thorium, mercury, uranium, etc.
The Uranverein, or Uranium Club, was comprised of Hitler's top nuclear physicists and survived the war in order to establish CERN. Just read their history.
It is assumed that the USA and Russia divided the spoils of Hitler's technology, with US taking the lion's share in many cases because of foreign relations and on account of having spent fewer lives and resources than Russia during the war. I am not really sure about this -- it would explain the literal division of Germany, however. the search for Hitler's stuff.

Then there is the semi fictional account of the Vrill society, and the strange long haired women who supposedly dowsed spaceship plans for Hitler right out of the thin air.
That is pretty effed up all on its own, if there is any truth involved. That some mindless young girls were manipulated somehow or raised to be able to function as a hive mind, providing less sensitive but more conscious humans the ability to manipulate them further and extract information from them, akin to remote viewing...

Remember the thread here on Avalon that discussed what happened to Navajo trackers when they cut their hair off?
THey lost many of their abilities -- just like Samson did in the Bible -- and what if these so called Vrill beings were real women and even the detail about the hair was true?

@_@


Anyhow, back to reality.

It is absolutely undeniable that the changing of hands of Hitler's technology with the USA coincided too closely with the advent of UFO sightings.

I am a true believer in the *possibility* and *probability* that the whole Roswell and Area-51 cover up involved Nazi technology and not necessarily something from outer space.

I mean, is a scramjet a weather balloon? No it is not...
Is a flying saucer a weather balloon? No, it certainly is not.



And consider also the advantages of the recent RE-discovery, that when a spacecraft surrounds itself with a magnetic field, incoming radiation is likely to follow the shape of that field, to be a hand-me-down from the Third Reich Projekt Die Glocke as well.


I can see why the Iranians would be desperate to point out and reinforce the truth, that the USA colluded with the Germans before WWII in nuclear physics and cyclotron experiments, only to continue them together after the war while third parties suffer under imperial yokes.

[Jean-Luc]

Thanks Camody & Curtis

As you put it : Hidden war is the real war. Hidden war is the real war. Hidden war is the real war.

One sentence summary of the video " Human beings do not breed well and produce well in direct captivity." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A at 08:48)

Powerful 12 min dialogue between Alex Jones & Stefan Molyneux from min. 15:00 to 27:40. >>> Direct link : http://youtu.be/RtAlxa3_xtE?t=15m

Suggestion for change and getting fresh air : THINK and MAKE the system feel uncomfortable. The real tyranny is in the mind.

Thank you both for this bowl of fresh air.

[CD7]

This is veering off the topic a wee bit...but recently I was going to post these images as I noticed the 'negative' space in the swastika to me resembled this other image positive space of four hands interlocking...

So since this thread is somewhat within the subject of Nazi's I thought wht the heck! :)

The difference between the two images, in the negative space of the swastika the lines do not connect (interlock) like the four hands do...anyhow I thought it was interesting--perhaps this is already known to be connected, I have not heard anything relating these symbols together





http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8mii1lBZL1qiy6tm.jpg

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/150960_543292265682486_1187247139_n.jpg

[Carmody]

Well, the swastika is a stolen and misused symbol, thus it is not unusual. part of the basic methodologies of their package. It's not about anything other than aims, and no method or path is sacrosanct and out of reach.

It is a lesson that humanity must learn individually and collectively, to understand, and look for at all times, but to not be damaged by the connection to such. To feel, to understand feeling, but understand the coloration and twisting of the internal view, away from truths...that is inherent in any form of manipulation by others, manipulation -from the utilization of those levers. They will remain levers until it is understood and then corrected for, in the given humans. To understand that these emotions and instincts are levers as they contain not conscious thought and logical rumination if left unchecked, that their leveraging will be utilized where possible, when possible, with no form of restriction.

Henrik Vanger: "Uh...Richard was a Nazi of the first order, joining the Nationalist Socialist Freedom League when he was seventeen. Isn't it interesting how fascists steal the world freedom." ~~~Christopher Plummer from 'Girl with the Dragon Tattoo'.

Tools have evolved, and tools now exist that can expose their hand and pathways to an extent that they can be razed, right back to their source points.

That is what the sociopath detection thread is about. We have now, a set of four potent tools, that together, have great power and clarity when it comes to identifying and finding sociopaths and psychopaths that are within humanity's halls of power, and when the people find out about these tools, the sociopath and the psychopath's time in those halls is going to end.

For the first time in nearly 12,000 years, they can be found where they are burrowed in.

They walk now as marked men. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66489-Brainscans-and-prisoners-Outing-the-sociopaths-and-the-domino-effect&p=786010&viewfull=1#post786010) (the vast majority are men)

They know this, which is why the push is so hard right now, to push humanity into a frenzy, so they can accomplish their aims.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

The issue isn't the symbols -- those are just tools.

The issue is that certain types of people value things and ideas over human lives.

One of the major German failings (and they were not alone in this so don't feel bad!) was the belief in "Perfectibilism".

This philosophy predates Hitler by many decades if not centuries and has been corrupted like any belief can be.


I guess a funny joke about the Nazi worldview would be, "Both Germans and Jews believe in Perfection; however Jews believe it takes a little while to get there!" lol



History
The Owl of Minerva perched on a book was an emblem used by the Bavarian Illuminati in their "Minerval" degree.

The movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria) as the Order of the Illuminati, with an initial membership of five,[2] by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830),[3] who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.[1] It was made up of freethinkers as an offshoot of the Enlightenment and seems to have been modeled on the Freemasons.[4] The Illuminati's members took a vow of secrecy and pledged obedience to their superiors. Members were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees, and many Illuminati chapters drew membership from existing Masonic lodges.

The goals of the organization included trying to eliminate superstition, prejudice, and the Roman Catholic Church's domination over government, philosophy, and science; trying to reduce oppressive state abuses of power, and trying to support the education and treatment of women as intellectual equals.[1] Originally Weishaupt had planned the order to be named the "Perfectibilists".[2] The group has also been called the Bavarian Illuminati and its ideology has been called "Illuminism". Many influential intellectuals and progressive politicians counted themselves as members, including Ferdinand of Brunswick and the diplomat Xavier von Zwack, the second-in-command of the order.[5] The order had branches in most European countries: it reportedly had around 2,000 members over the span of ten years.[1] It attracted literary men such as Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and Johann Gottfried Herder and the reigning dukes of Gotha and Weimar.

In 1777, Karl Theodor became ruler of Bavaria. He was a proponent of Enlightened Despotism and his government banned all secret societies including the Illuminati. Internal rupture and panic over succession preceded its downfall.[1] A March 2, 1785 government edict "seems to have been deathblow to the Illuminati in Bavaria". Weishaupt had fled and documents and internal correspondences, seized in 1786 and 1787, were subsequently published by the government in 1787.[6] Von Zwack's home was searched to disclose much of the group's literature.[5]

Now you know exactly where Bohemian Grove originated, eh??

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[johnf]

Point is… where I am standing from, there is some serious truth to the 'nazi space alien' thing. Though, that is NOT the way it needs to be phrased, for several reasons. =P

This is the problem I have with the release of this stuff the way it was done.
Only the people who are really willing to look and sift out the bigger truth will benefit from it.
Many will just shy away from it because of the tin foil hat trappings of the article.
There are layers to the real situation Snowden (to me , now) seems to be the real deal, and what he is doing
gets spun by various groups internationally.
The third Reich was influenced by various ET groups, channelings etc, the easiest to find is the Aldebaran connections.
Whether the particular contacts were tall whites or Nordics, I can't really tell yet.
There is a danger of thinking any of these are all good or all bad, every civilization has it''s factions.
But you have to have blinders on if you don't see the similarities between the US actions of the last 14 or so years, and what happened in early Nazi Germany, and I mean on the ground, because that is where it needs to be addressed.
People need to see the actual behavior patterns in themselves,and "leaders", and not be spun by the wild side of things for
things to move ahead and heal.
Yes the wild side is real , but it contains truth and lies, it is our actions now and as we move along that matter.
The charge that is still carried by the term Nazi is too much for most people these days, as well as the term alien.

John

[Milneman]

1. Find out what the game is.
2. Don't let them know you know what the game is because if you do, they will change the game and you will have to return to step 1.
3. Use the game to get what you want.

(this works both ways guys)

Yesterday in class, instead of dealing with animal cruelty, the prof brought in the news report on Obama's speech re: Snowden NSA phone calls yada yada yada and the discussion ensued about the ethics involved in this. In that hour, I realized just how clueless accademia is to what's really going on. I brought up what I seemed to remember as a new NSA computer fascility being built several football fields in length/width only to be told by the prof that since computers/technology is constantly shrinking it (he inferred) means this type of facility has to be for something else.

Insert my favorite emoticon:

:suspicious:

So in leaving class I started to think about another thing he said, namely why universities are like courts: professors are tenured for the same reasons judges have autonomy in the system, so they can speak "the truth" without fear of being fired.

Insert my favorite emoticon:

:suspicious:

I can't be sure that the reason I was shrugged off was because of the direction I was going, or if it was because it was going in a direction he was uncomfortable with. I know from listening to the students (the 20-somethings) that did answer questions (and not many of them actually do answer questions, I seem to get my hand up a lot and that's creating some friction as well LOL), but I know had I said the words "black budget" I probably would've been laughed out of class, or would've had to spend ten minutes explaining why a discussion about ethics in this particular situation is actually moot until you get a full comprehension of the depth/breadth of how deep this game really is.

I'm not sure who's exactly running the show. One thing I can, and must, be confident of is who's running my show. That seems to me to be the first step the deep thinkers in this thread seem to keep turning to. And I think it's critical.

The first three rules I introduced in this post will only function if you concede that the individual who allows him/herself to be used is actually worse than an individual who uses him/her. Something I hold to be a universal truth.

Your milage may vary.

[Agape]

The issue isn't the symbols -- those are just tools.

The issue is that certain types of people value things and ideas over human lives.

One of the major German failings (and they were not alone in this so don't feel bad!) was the belief in "Perfectibilism".

This philosophy predates Hitler by many decades if not centuries and has been corrupted like any belief can be.



Perfectionism . ''Pünktlichkeit' in German . It's the thing when your human mummy walks to the bathroom and spots four drops on tiles that could accidentally, allegedly , start the whole chain of events leading to the demolition of the building .
So she gets furious about them since they are a sample of your lax attitude and it's clear at that moment there are errors in your genetic make up that can't be quite corrected but should be mended by force . ;)

The example my mum used to give me when I made mistake or two in my homework was that a bus driver doing such a 'tiny mistake' will be responsible for peoples lives .

I think I hated it . I found my way to beauty and order that is entirely my own and I do keep it sacred much later in my life when I finally got out of her influence ..

The whole idea of 'ubermensch' , the perfect man is a root of human disaster taking place in every sort of business .. that's how the Nazi theosophy and eugenics and fatalistic faith that there is some version 'perfect human' continues .

It did not take me that long to realise, both through my spiritual studies and experiences beyond the human version of existence and intelligence
that in this human world , we can't be perfect .

For me personally .. being happy , healthy and gifted human being ..is about being natural.

There's a Japanese version of 'perfection' that looks like the Bonsai tree, so cute and lovely . But it has to be cut and bound and held in form by chains.

...


:angel:

[johnf]

The whole idea of 'ubermensch' , the perfect man is a root of human disaster taking place in every sort of business .. that's how the Nazi theosophy and eugenics and fatalistic faith that there is some version 'perfect human' continues .




Humans do much better when we contemplate the possibility that we are the many ways we are in order to experience a mix of imperfections through which perfection may shine.

Perfection probably exists only on the highest plane, and we might have gotten bored with that.

On this plane we have opportunities to experience beauty, love, cooperation, surprise, adventure, suffering, ease of suffering, all with imperfections, this way we can remember our inner perfection much more clearly.

Instead of perfecting the human race perhaps the real possibility is varying degrees of maturity, and moving on to something better is what we need to focus on. As well as leaving room for choice and free will.

John
Oops hadn't read this before I composed my post, but sometimes the same spirit needs to be expressed in different forms, so mine might not be as redundant as I thought when I read this from Agape.
"
There's a Japanese version of 'perfection' that looks like the Bonsai tree, so cute and lovely . But it has to be cut and bound and held in form by chains."

Again, John

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Milneman]

lol That's the thing David...there only are a few limited games, a few limited behaviors. Once you recognize what they are, in the combinations they come, they're all pretty predictable because the game a single person uses is just a modulation of what a group/organization uses...or vice versa...or verse visa. :)

That's the reason it works. Nobody suspects something this simple, and everyone's hard wired to find the most complicated solution. It's perfect. Sort of.

Oh damn you, I smell a thread I have to start now.

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My main question, was did the 'aliens' make hitler a 'nazi' in the first place =P lol. Ok, ok, I'm done =P

They didn't. It's a complicated, multi-faceted story that involves a failed artist with one testical that came from a dysfunctional home in a country torn apart by politics, bureaucracy, class, and schnapps.

Or that's the script for the new CBS after school special. ;)

[Carmody]

The whole idea of 'ubermensch' , the perfect man is a root of human disaster taking place in every sort of business .. that's how the Nazi theosophy and eugenics and fatalistic faith that there is some version 'perfect human' continues .




Humans do much better when we contemplate the possibility that we are the many ways we are in order to experience a mix of imperfections through which perfection may shine.

Perfection probably exists only on the highest plane, and we might have gotten bored with that.

On this plane we have opportunities to experience beauty, love, cooperation, surprise, adventure, suffering, ease of suffering, all with imperfections, this way we can remember our inner perfection much more clearly.

Instead of perfecting the human race perhaps the real possibility is varying degrees of maturity, and moving on to something better is what we need to focus on. As well as leaving room for choice and free will.

John
Oops hadn't read this before I composed my post, but sometimes the same spirit needs to be expressed in different forms, so mine might not be as redundant as I thought when I read this from Agape.
"
There's a Japanese version of 'perfection' that looks like the Bonsai tree, so cute and lovely . But it has to be cut and bound and held in form by chains."

Again, John

perfection, is stagnation, is static death, is nothingness. A giant nothing that is all encompassing that begins nowhere and ends nowhere. A thing we may drive toward but is a nothing in a state of finality. A stagnant end.

Life is growth, is motion, is change.. is living on the edge of chaos that is turning into order, through or via the means of self and will.. always assembling, always tearing down, always reassembling.

Oscillation is the state of this universe, one passing through the existence of another. Life is music, it is fantasy, pure chaos, but turning to order.

How could it be any other way?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

The whole idea of 'ubermensch' , the perfect man is a root of human disaster taking place in every sort of business .. that's how the Nazi theosophy and eugenics and fatalistic faith that there is some version 'perfect human' continues .




Humans do much better when we contemplate the possibility that we are the many ways we are in order to experience a mix of imperfections through which perfection may shine.

Perfection probably exists only on the highest plane, and we might have gotten bored with that.

On this plane we have opportunities to experience beauty, love, cooperation, surprise, adventure, suffering, ease of suffering, all with imperfections, this way we can remember our inner perfection much more clearly.

Instead of perfecting the human race perhaps the real possibility is varying degrees of maturity, and moving on to something better is what we need to focus on. As well as leaving room for choice and free will.

John
Oops hadn't read this before I composed my post, but sometimes the same spirit needs to be expressed in different forms, so mine might not be as redundant as I thought when I read this from Agape.
"
There's a Japanese version of 'perfection' that looks like the Bonsai tree, so cute and lovely . But it has to be cut and bound and held in form by chains."

Again, John

perfection, is stagnation, is static death, is nothingness. A giant nothing that is all encompassing that begins nowhere and ends nowhere. A thing we may drive toward but is a nothing in a state of finality. A stagnant end.

Life is growth, is motion, is change.. is living on the edge of chaos that is turning into order, through or via the means of self and will.. always assembling, always tearing down, always reassembling.

Oscillation is the state of this universe, one passing through the existence of another. Life is music, it is fantasy, pure chaos, but turning to order.

How could it be any other way?

You are very wise.

Remember that in nature the only perfect circle is the black hole... and it's always hungry and never satisfied... :( eek

Now you know the meaning of the Black Sun as well as the origin of perfectibilism and the bohemians.



http://uanews.org/story/scientists-prepare-take-first-ever-picture-black-hole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_grove
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfectibilism


Friedrich Nietzsche wrote that the individual reaches perfection by exercising the will to power.


General Relativity predicts that the bright outline defining the black hole’s shadow must be a perfect circle. According to Psaltis, whose research group specializes in Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, this provides an important test.
“If we find the black hole’s shadow to be oblate instead of circular, it means Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity must be flawed,” he said. “But even if we find no deviation from general relativity, all these processes will help us understand the fundamental aspects of the theory much better.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_rings

Long before the events of the novel, the Dark Lord Sauron forges the One Ring to rule the other Rings of Power and corrupt those who wear them: the leaders of Men, Elves and Dwarves.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/Jrrt_lotr_cover_design.jpg
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png/800px-Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_eagle


The Blood Eagle was a method of torture and execution that is sometimes mentioned in Nordic saga legends. It was performed by cutting the ribs of the victim by the spine, breaking the ribs so they resembled blood-stained wings, and pulling the lungs out through the wounds in the victim's back. Salt was sprinkled in the wounds. Victims of the method of execution, as mentioned in skaldic poetry and the Norse sagas, are believed to have included King Ælla of Northumbria, Halfdan son of King Haraldr Hárfagri of Norway, King Maelgualai of Munster, and possibly Archbishop Ælfheah of Canterbury.

The historicity of the practice is disputed. Some take it as historical evidence of atrocities fueled by pagan hatred of Christianity. Others take it as fiction: heroic Icelandic sagas, skaldic poetry and inaccurate translations.


Knútsdrápa[edit]
Finally, some believe the blood eagle is referred to by the eleventh-century poet Sigvatr Þórðarson, who, some time between 1020 and 1038, wrote a skaldic verse named Knútsdrápa that recounts and establishes Ivar the Boneless as having killed Ella and subsequently cutting his back. Depending on the interpretation an eagle is either what was cut, or what was doing the cutting.

Sighvatr's skaldic verse in Old Norse:

Original

Ok Ellu bak,
At lét hinn’s sat,
Ívarr, ara,
Iorví, skorit.[4]


Literal translation

And Ella’s back,
at had the one who dwelt
Ívarr, with eagle,
York, cut.


Suggested reordering

And Ívarr, the one
who dwelt at York,
had Ella's back
cut with [an] eagle[5]

Skaldic poetry, a common medium of Norse poets, was intentionally meant to be cryptic and allusive, therefore the idiomatic nature of Sighvatr's skaldic verse, describing what has become known as the blood eagle, is a matter of historical contention. This is all the truer in this case, since, in Norse imagery, the eagle was strongly associated with blood and death.

[Carmody]

To me, some bits of what Nietzsche wrote was ok, but mixed up with some pretty narrow and off kilter stuff. One has to be careful, like when dealing with Ayn Rand. Objectivisim is a needed point of understanding but couched in the terms of subjectivity, to retain the important points of empathy. One way of many to look at it.

This is how disinfo gets mixed up with info.

The sociopath and the clear headed balanced empath, can appear to speak the same words, appear to move in similar seeming directions, on similar points... in some ways - but to never confuse one with the other.

Beware the cloaked and stalking sociopath. Ie, beware corporations as they exist today, and beware Washington DC.

If one types into a search engine, the name 'Ayn rand', they can see a website for the promotion of Ayn Rand. It somehow presupposes, within it's innards... that capitalism is being restrained, and it needs to be set free. Sure, I can dig that. But with controls, and those controls won't work, as unrestricted capitalism is essentially fascism, as it has exceeded and superseded government. Which means it is a near perfect vehicle and nesting ground for the megalomaniacal sociopath and psychopath. They are drawn to it like flies, as they are right now, and are in such corporations and hallways of power, right now. Thus the entire website is moving into being a notably blind mix of heady idealist projected fascist psychosis. Go take a look, see for yourself.



This cloaking and way of moving in public and private, in what appears to be parallel paths..... is one of the core principles in deceptive cloaking (for a myriad of purposes), the way of the neo-fascists that are being dealt with, in this thread right here.

Another point is about creeping fascism. The people don't want it, as it is obviously against them, it goes against the common will and common desire so it has to be in stealth mode, it has to creep.

Creeping fascism is a cover for emergent totalitarianism. (aka 'the totalitarian tip-toe')

Totalitarianism turns into bloodbaths. Like Pol Pot's acts within the borders of Cambodia.

[Douglass]

lol That's the thing David...there only are a few limited games, a few limited behaviors. Once you recognize what they are, in the combinations they come, they're all pretty predictable because the game a single person uses is just a modulation of what a group/organization uses...or vice versa...or verse visa. :)

That's the reason it works. Nobody suspects something this simple, and everyone's hard wired to find the most complicated solution. It's perfect. Sort of.

Oh damn you, I smell a thread I have to start now.

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My main question, was did the 'aliens' make hitler a 'nazi' in the first place =P lol. Ok, ok, I'm done =P

They didn't. It's a complicated, multi-faceted story that involves a failed artist with one testical that came from a dysfunctional home in a country torn apart by politics, bureaucracy, class, and schnapps.

Or that's the script for the new CBS after school special. ;)


I must admit I agree with Milneman. I think "the game" in a broad sense is a lot more simple than most understand.

The ultimate battle ground is the in the realm of mind. Our mind along with the human vehicle as a whole operates in mostly set and predictable ways. (not talking about the human spirit) If you know the ways of the mind and can successfully occult that knowledge away for yourself (or your group) then you win the battle. In very simple terms.

Mind is causality, matter is effect.
So if one rules the realm of mind they DICTATE the realm of matter.

DISCLAIMER
Very simple explanation

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Christine]

Having read this thread I am ready to jump in with my two cents. Milneman has pretty much summed up what is my own experience with the game. The trick is to become the games master as it were… once you SEE the moves that are being made you are able to change the trajectory thereby THEY are literally compelled to make a different move. Of course the moves are multiples and on many dimensions. So as consciousness expands it is a multi dimension, multi timeline and multi entity chess game. (P.S. I dislike the word game but it suffices for what has been talked about here.)

Here is the clincher for me. I don't want to play their game, I find it utterly boring and destructive as I have been enmeshed in "the game" for eons of time. So the "new game" for myself is to help free the beings, entities and life forms that have been captured in this tortuous affair for too long. As our consciousness, knowledge base and capabilities are remembered, regained and clarified (that means confronting and removing our own internal participation in their game) we are the BEcoming, a rebirth of LIFE promoting BEings on our planet, in our galaxy in the center of the Cosmo.

The biggest trap ever laid was the trap of perfection… to which we never arrive, because the standards of perfection always leave the imperfect out.

It is a Free Will Universe but we need to make sure it is the TRUE SELF or us that is exercising our free will, not over another but internally in ourselves. This is a totally different paradigm and the one that a Master taught so eloquently and why his words are reverberatingly relevant. Once truly embraced and understood the thoughts, acts and manifestations you participate in will return us to our True home. Every aspect that we know as LIFE, whether your brother, sister, neighbor, garden, plant, animal, stars, dark matter, or devil can be embraced in your SELF and in LOVE. Do unto others as you would have them do unto YOU.

Why do I say this here… because everyone of us regardless of our outward manifested reality, regardless of what has been done to us, and I Know some of it is utterly horrendous, KNOWS inside that there is a silent voice, a flame that no matter how small, it can't be extinguished… LISTEN, that is you. You have choice. YOU do know who you are, so if anything else tries to compel you to act in ways that our NOT you then you must stand your ground and not be moved.

This confrontation is at times, so hard that we feel ourself succumb, but we hold our ground, every inch of recovering our Freedom is a combined victory because WE are our brother and what we do for personal freedom we do for ALL.

[eaglespirit]

Good One, Christine, Thank You!

Seems You and 1inMany are 'dancing to the same music' in wonderful synchronicity : )

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=786714&viewfull=1#post786714
One step at a time, one day at a time, one nudge from the little voice at a time.


Why do I say this here… because everyone of us regardless of our outward manifested reality, regardless of what has been done to us, and I Know some of it is utterly horrendous, KNOWS inside that there is a silent voice, a flame that no matter how small, it can't be extinguished… LISTEN, that is you. You have choice. YOU do know who you are, so if anything else tries to compel you to act in ways that our NOT you then you must stand your ground and not be moved.

[Agape]

http://uanews.org/story/scientists-prepare-take-first-ever-picture-black-hole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_grove
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfectibilism


Friedrich Nietzsche wrote that the individual reaches perfection by exercising the will to power.


General Relativity predicts that the bright outline defining the black hole’s shadow must be a perfect circle. According to Psaltis, whose research group specializes in Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, this provides an important test.
“If we find the black hole’s shadow to be oblate instead of circular, it means Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity must be flawed,” he said. “But even if we find no deviation from general relativity, all these processes will help us understand the fundamental aspects of the theory much better.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_rings

Long before the events of the novel, the Dark Lord Sauron forges the One Ring to rule the other Rings of Power and corrupt those who wear them: the leaders of Men, Elves and Dwarves.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/Jrrt_lotr_cover_design.jpg
_____________________________________

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png/800px-Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_eagle


The Blood Eagle was a method of torture and execution that is sometimes mentioned in Nordic saga legends. It was performed by cutting the ribs of the victim by the spine, breaking the ribs so they resembled blood-stained wings, and pulling the lungs out through the wounds in the victim's back. Salt was sprinkled in the wounds. Victims of the method of execution, as mentioned in skaldic poetry and the Norse sagas, are believed to have included King Ælla of Northumbria, Halfdan son of King Haraldr Hárfagri of Norway, King Maelgualai of Munster, and possibly Archbishop Ælfheah of Canterbury.

The historicity of the practice is disputed. Some take it as historical evidence of atrocities fueled by pagan hatred of Christianity. Others take it as fiction: heroic Icelandic sagas, skaldic poetry and inaccurate translations.


Knútsdrápa[edit]
Finally, some believe the blood eagle is referred to by the eleventh-century poet Sigvatr Þórðarson, who, some time between 1020 and 1038, wrote a skaldic verse named Knútsdrápa that recounts and establishes Ivar the Boneless as having killed Ella and subsequently cutting his back. Depending on the interpretation an eagle is either what was cut, or what was doing the cutting.

Sighvatr's skaldic verse in Old Norse:

Original

Ok Ellu bak,
At lét hinn’s sat,
Ívarr, ara,
Iorví, skorit.[4]


Literal translation

And Ella’s back,
at had the one who dwelt
Ívarr, with eagle,
York, cut.


Suggested reordering

And Ívarr, the one
who dwelt at York,
had Ella's back
cut with [an] eagle[5]

Skaldic poetry, a common medium of Norse poets, was intentionally meant to be cryptic and allusive, therefore the idiomatic nature of Sighvatr's skaldic verse, describing what has become known as the blood eagle, is a matter of historical contention. This is all the truer in this case, since, in Norse imagery, the eagle was strongly associated with blood and death.






http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/10583525/New-Zealand-earthquake-topples-The-Hobbits-eagle.html

New Zealand earthquake topples The Hobbit's eagle

Giant eagle being used to promote film trilogy falls from the ceiling of Wellington airport during earthquake

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A giant eagle used to promote The Hobbit film trilogy has fallen to earth from the ceiling of Wellington airport during a severe earthquake in central New Zealand.
However, a second eagle, being ridden by a sculpture of The Hobbit’s beneficent wizard Gandalf, was undamaged and remained affixed to the ceiling.
The quake, with a 6.3 magnitude, damaged buildings and caused train suspensions, rock slides and road closures but is not believed to have caused any injuries.
It was centred about 80 miles north of Wellington and struck at 3.52pm local time at a depth of about 17 miles.

Heather Gowans, who lives in the town of Masterton, about 24 miles from the quake centre, said: "It was really shaking and rolling - it went on for about 30 seconds… It just kept going and going and was swaying really bad. Everything was swaying and the place was creaking and groaning - but luckily nothing is broken."
At the airport, the giant eagle – with a wingspan of 45 feet – slowly dislodged during the quake and dropped, hitting 19-year-old Lauren Stone on the head.
Ms Stone said she and a friend were sitting beneath the eagle when its wing fell on top of their table and knocked it over.
“[The eagle] started shaking heaps and rattling, we jumped under the table," she told The Dominion Post.
"The eagle fell on top of us. We ran away ... I definitely know I was hit on the head kind of thing but it didn't hurt or anything like that… I don't think anyone really saw us, all the mums were screaming, it was quite panicked."
Natalie Julian, who works at the airport's doughnut store, said: “I was having lunch about 20 metres away and I caught a glimpse of my workmates looking distressed. I saw the eagle swaying then heard a horrendous noise. It was like the roof was coming down."
An airport spokesman, Greg Thomas, told The Telegraph: “The Gandalf one is fine. We will be conducting an engineering inspection on it to check it is ok…. We are in the process of investigating what failed on the second eagle.
The airport installed the giant eagles in the airport last month.
The film trilogies based on the J. R. R. Tolkien books The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings have all been directed by a New Zealander, Peter Jackson, who filmed in New Zealand and turned the local landscapes into the fictional Middle-earth.
The earthquake-prone nation experiences about 15,000 tremors a year and is still recovering from a devastating 6.3-magnitude quake in the South Island city of Christchurch in 2011 which killed 185 people and destroyed much of the central city.




Discretely .. this is how Eagles Disobey and Joint Extraterestrial Eagles Alliance Against Human and Animal Cruelty responds ,
in hand with Tall Whites Conspiracy Resistance Movement .

:angel:

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Milneman]

Having read this thread I am ready to jump in with my two cents. Milneman has pretty much summed up what is my own experience with the game. The trick is to become the games master as it were… once you SEE the moves that are being made you are able to change the trajectory thereby THEY are literally compelled to make a different move. Of course the moves are multiples and on many dimensions. So as consciousness expands it is a multi dimension, multi timeline and multi entity chess game. (P.S. I dislike the word game but it suffices for what has been talked about here.)

Here is the clincher for me. I don't want to play their game, I find it utterly boring and destructive as I have been enmeshed in "the game" for eons of time. So the "new game" for myself is to help free the beings, entities and life forms that have been captured in this tortuous affair for too long. As our consciousness, knowledge base and capabilities are remembered, regained and clarified (that means confronting and removing our own internal participation in their game) we are the BEcoming, a rebirth of LIFE promoting BEings on our planet, in our galaxy in the center of the Cosmo.

The biggest trap ever laid was the trap of perfection… to which we never arrive, because the standards of perfection always leave the imperfect out.

It is a Free Will Universe but we need to make sure it is the TRUE SELF or us that is exercising our free will, not over another but internally in ourselves.

That sounds like a good new game. I mean, if you are going to be playing something... :-)

To me, I always saw 'perfection' as others see what they call 'imperfection'. What do they want to be? A 'perfect' mold? We are perfect, just as is... perhaps with a gentle nudge of a suggestion to walk towards... say the helping not hurting sort of mind frame... :-)

See that last part is me wanting it my way, lol

*BINGO*

So now they key to it all, which is so simple, and so brilliant, is to not play a new game at all. If you keep playing, no matter how you play, it's a game. They know it, we know it. Trust me, the Nazi machine knew it and milked it brilliantly. Others do today. Especially, I'm beginning to see, people that have had experiences like me. And like you!

The key is...just don't play anymore. Just be. It's the easiest thing in the world to do, and the hardest because there is nobody around to tell us/show us how. But it is possible.

I've said this before: they put the key to our freedom somewhere they knew we'd never look for it, or if we did look, we'd think it wasn't real. They put it within us.

Every day I wake up and thank God that I was fortunate enough to be given a mentor who helped me through this process of peeling the onion to see this. And then the patience they had to wait for me to finally wake up to it.

Then I realize...there is no chance. And that's a comforting thought as well.

Your milage will vary. ;)

[Sierra]

That mistranslation of that Bible saying, "Be ye perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect" has caused a LOT of pain.

It should have been translated as "be mature as your Father in Heaven is mature."

Which is a rather interesting thing to say... the implication being that ALL entities continuously evolve...

Sierra

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

That mistranslation of that Bible saying, "Be ye perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect" has caused a LOT of pain.

It should have been translated as "be mature as your Father in Heaven is mature."

Which is a rather interesting thing to say... the implication being that ALL entities continuously evolve...

Sierra

Well, God works out his own perfection through Creation.
He doesn't just sit in front of the mirror and say "Oooooh I sure woke up on the perfect side of the bed today in Heaven".

He patiently, lovingly observes and labors, and that is the perfection he wants us to find.

It's not some sterile state of matter or non-activity... it's messy and defined by what is imperfect around it.

But it is the effort that really stands out.

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Milneman]

One day I woke up and realized that being perfect like my Father in heaven wasn't about being perfect at all.

I also realized that as a child, the reason I was having trouble with messy hamburgers was because my hands were too small. And I didn't realize the perfection in the mess, or perhaps the pleasure that was in the mess is a better way of saying it.

Then my hands got bigger. bwaha. :)

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I was skyping with Flash about this kinda stuff last night n' we came up with some really cherry observations. One of them being that even though we may think of ourselves as not being in the seat of power, we actually are because we've retained the capacity to love, unconditionally, and to forgive. This is going to be a tough job to turn around to our oppressors and say to them: you can evolve along with us. You don't have to hold onto this matter you think has power.

You, the oppressors, could fly with your own wings. So why do you need to hold onto us when we learn to fly?

Can't have cake and eat it to.

Unless at a cook-out. David I'm bringing cake. Like mine rare, moo-ing please. :)

[Douglass]

I agree with almost all of the above.

With that said, my point is this that "the game" is MIND CONTROL.

In the realm of mind is where we regain our CONTROL, then using our new found knowledge we affect change in our environment.

There are really smart and goodhearted spiritual people who for some reason have all the right questions but don't want to believe that the answers are simple.
In turn their perception of the answers become sort of trivialized half truths, subconsciously holding contradictions in their MINDS.

If one holds contradictions in their mind and their PERCEPTION is not aligned with REALITY then their ability to effect change is diminished.
PERCEPTION is not REALITY, one must make REALITY their PERCEPTION.

So, to win "the game" which it isn't a game at all, it is war waged upon our minds, we must....
1, understand the mind
2, use introspection to eliminate our contradictions and properly order our information (belief systems)
3, Our information has now become knowledge to effect change

I realize this probably over simplified but none the less it is true.

Although CAUSE and EFFECT is not everything, it is a natural law.

MIND is the realm of CAUSE, MATTER is the realm of EFFECT.

The AUTHORitys have written our cultures mental programming.
I will end with a quote.

"You either learn your way towards writing your own script in life, or you unwittingly become an actor in someone else's script." - John Taylor Gatto

[anonymous]

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[Milneman]

The thing is… what if you like to play, and like to win. and you like to name the game. and you came here, into one of these 'body bags' (hehe, sorry) for a specific reason… Or at least like to pretend that you did, every now and then. To make one's own reality, is to stop playing the game, even if it is playing the game. Trust me, when you start winning every time, they don't want to play anymore, anyway! lol


Then all you have to do is answer one question: Who is worse? He who allows himself to be used, or he who uses someone?

And there's nothing wrong with playing provided....dammit David. Are you trying to get me to post new threads? :D

[anonymous]

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[Milneman]

LOL I love it! :)

Something a village elder did tell me once: we are teachers, one to the other. And dammit..I do need to learn lots. I'm far behind in a lot of respects.

ps: I wasn't suggesting in the post up top there that you were an oppressor.

Book for you. Where The Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion and Naturalism by Alvin Plantinga (oh no not him again)

He's got an interesting take on why naturalism seems to implode when you hold it in conjunction with the kind of conditioning you see in natural selection. And it's the kind of read anybody can understand (which is good for me lol). I'm about in chapter 2 now having heard a few of the lectures n' wanting to get a greater scope of the thesis.

[Douglass]

I see your point but....

If you think you can just create your own reality and that makes it true because thats the way you see it, then I think your wrong.

I think most humans have a general understanding of whats right and whats wrong.

I am not talking about spirituality or ones religious beliefs I am talking about natural laws.

Peace and control over ones own life is not dependent on the whole world having the same spiritual outlook or religious outlook. Peace and freedom however are dependent upon humanity taking responsibility for their minds and their lives, and taking ACTION when their rights are infringed.

[anonymous]

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[Douglass]

HA! creepy picture David. good post.

So, I am sort of confused. You have a broken memory of, or a full memory of you and your family being "trained" by a "NAZI SPACE ALIEN" !!??

[anonymous]

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[anonymous]

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[Douglass]

Wow so you were being initiated or taught by a man dressed as a nazi in your neighbors basement!?

That is pretty extraordinary, and I am not making fun in any way just trying to understand where you are coming from.

oh cool you left a link I will refer to that for any more questions. very interesting.

[anonymous]

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[Soulboy]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png/800px-Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png


Sorry, soooo off topic, but does anyone know the name of the symbol at the centre of this picture, the interlocking D's or triangles. I'm asking because I saw it once in a documentary on youtube in a Masonic context (made up of only 3 triangles or D's or whatever and it immediately struck me that it is (purely coincidentally of course) very similar to the symbol of the German Football Association DFB https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/a/a9/Deutscher_Fu%C3%9Fball-Bund_logo.svg (don't worry, I don't watch football/ soccer at all). I'd like to know what it is called to read a bit more on it. Thanks for any input and sorry once more for going off topic here

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

No apology required!

I saw that symbol yesterday on the Theosophy website, on a page that had a poem about the Ragnarok.

Hope this helps!! never be sorry for asking!!

similar: http://www.theosophytrust.mobi/660-ragnarok
http://www.theosophytrust.mobi/images/texttriangle.gif

is it the triple horn of odin combined with some masonic thing?

@_@

p.s. here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut

The valknut (Old Norse valr, "slain warriors" + knut, "knot") is a symbol consisting of three interlocked triangles, and appears on various Germanic objects. A number of theories have been proposed for its significance.

The name valknut is an unattested modern invention used to describe the symbol, and was not used contemporarily when the symbol was used. The valknut has been compared to the three-horned symbol found on the 9th century Snoldelev Stone, and may be related to it.[1]

In Scandinavia today the term valknute is used for a square with a loop on each of its four corners.[2] In the English language this symbol is called Saint John's Arms.

...blah...

Modern use[edit]

The valknut symbol plays a role in modern Germanic Neopagan faiths, where numerous explanations and interpretations of the symbol are given, has been used by various political groups, and sometimes sees use in modern popular culture. Examples of usage include the Swedish pulp and paper manufacturer and consumer goods company Svenska Cellulosa Aktiebolaget's use of a triquetra valknut as their logo, which can be commonly seen on many products produced by the company. The Deutscher Fußball-Bund (DFB) has (since 1991) used a logo for the German national football team inspired by the unicursal form of the valknut.[5]

The symbol, like many others associated with Germanic neopaganism, is used by some white supremacist[6][7] but is not generally regarded as objectionable.[8]

p.p.s. VERY important find:

http://www.siadallas.org/about.shtml/

Definition of RA: Ritual abuse is extreme systematic physical, sexual, psychological and spiritual abuse, which often includes torture, brainwashing, and ritual sacrifice. It is perpetrated under many guises, including Christianity, Paganism, white supremacy, Judaism, theosophy, Satanism, Goddess worship, militarism, and Nazism. Any religion or philosophical system can be used to perpetrate abuse.

[Soulboy]

Hope this helps!!

Wow, thanks for that. Interesting! Not very surprising as it just points in the same direction(s) it usually does (see your last paragraph), but interesting regardless.

The symbol I mentioned that I once saw looked kind of different and was hand-painted in an old (I'm talking hundreds of years old) book. It looked similar to the DFB logo if rotated by 90 degrees anti-clockwise, lying down if you will. I should have kept the screen shot of it I took while watching that youtube video, but I did not...

[sigma6]

It is interesting when anyone can get this debate started again in any way -- kudos actually to the Iranians for reminding America of the shadowy origins of nuclear power...

It is absolutely true that the Nazi Bell experiments did involve transmutation and radioactive/toxic materials, such as thorium, mercury, uranium, etc.
The Uranverein, or Uranium Club, was comprised of Hitler's top nuclear physicists and survived the war in order to establish CERN. Just read their history.
It is assumed that the USA and Russia divided the spoils of Hitler's technology, with US taking the lion's share in many cases because of foreign relations and on account of having spent fewer lives and resources than Russia during the war. I am not really sure about this -- it would explain the literal division of Germany, however. the search for Hitler's stuff.

Then there is the semi fictional account of the Vrill society, and the strange long haired women who supposedly dowsed spaceship plans for Hitler right out of the thin air.
That is pretty effed up all on its own, if there is any truth involved. That some mindless young girls were manipulated somehow or raised to be able to function as a hive mind, providing less sensitive but more conscious humans the ability to manipulate them further and extract information from them, akin to remote viewing...

Remember the thread here on Avalon that discussed what happened to Navajo trackers when they cut their hair off?
THey lost many of their abilities -- just like Samson did in the Bible -- and what if these so called Vrill beings were real women and even the detail about the hair was true?

@_@


Anyhow, back to reality.

It is absolutely undeniable that the changing of hands of Hitler's technology with the USA coincided too closely with the advent of UFO sightings.

I am a true believer in the *possibility* and *probability* that the whole Roswell and Area-51 cover up involved Nazi technology and not necessarily something from outer space.

I mean, is a scramjet a weather balloon? No it is not...
Is a flying saucer a weather balloon? No, it certainly is not.



And consider also the advantages of the recent RE-discovery, that when a spacecraft surrounds itself with a magnetic field, incoming radiation is likely to follow the shape of that field, to be a hand-me-down from the Third Reich Projekt Die Glocke as well.


I can see why the Iranians would be desperate to point out and reinforce the truth, that the USA colluded with the Germans before WWII in nuclear physics and cyclotron experiments, only to continue them together after the war while third parties suffer under imperial yokes.

Great job Tesla,
I think your intuitions are right on the money... this is exactly what the oracles of delphi did, there is power in the minds of 'young innocents' (unadulterated women (and children, teens, etc)... and then given the right environment, inducements, they are merely tapping that quantum reality that is all around us and potentially available to every conscious being... I have heard about the hair part, there could very well be something to it...

[Brodie75]

It is interesting when anyone can get this debate started again in any way -- kudos actually to the Iranians for reminding America of the shadowy origins of nuclear power...

It is absolutely true that the Nazi Bell experiments did involve transmutation and radioactive/toxic materials, such as thorium, mercury, uranium, etc.
The Uranverein, or Uranium Club, was comprised of Hitler's top nuclear physicists and survived the war in order to establish CERN. Just read their history.
It is assumed that the USA and Russia divided the spoils of Hitler's technology, with US taking the lion's share in many cases because of foreign relations and on account of having spent fewer lives and resources than Russia during the war. I am not really sure about this -- it would explain the literal division of Germany, however. the search for Hitler's stuff.

Then there is the semi fictional account of the Vrill society, and the strange long haired women who supposedly dowsed spaceship plans for Hitler right out of the thin air.
That is pretty effed up all on its own, if there is any truth involved. That some mindless young girls were manipulated somehow or raised to be able to function as a hive mind, providing less sensitive but more conscious humans the ability to manipulate them further and extract information from them, akin to remote viewing...

Remember the thread here on Avalon that discussed what happened to Navajo trackers when they cut their hair off?
THey lost many of their abilities -- just like Samson did in the Bible -- and what if these so called Vrill beings were real women and even the detail about the hair was true?

@_@


Anyhow, back to reality.

It is absolutely undeniable that the changing of hands of Hitler's technology with the USA coincided too closely with the advent of UFO sightings.

I am a true believer in the *possibility* and *probability* that the whole Roswell and Area-51 cover up involved Nazi technology and not necessarily something from outer space.

I mean, is a scramjet a weather balloon? No it is not...
Is a flying saucer a weather balloon? No, it certainly is not.



And consider also the advantages of the recent RE-discovery, that when a spacecraft surrounds itself with a magnetic field, incoming radiation is likely to follow the shape of that field, to be a hand-me-down from the Third Reich Projekt Die Glocke as well.


I can see why the Iranians would be desperate to point out and reinforce the truth, that the USA colluded with the Germans before WWII in nuclear physics and cyclotron experiments, only to continue them together after the war while third parties suffer under imperial yokes.

Great job Tesla,
I think your intuitions are right on the money... this is exactly what the oracles of delphi did, there is power in the minds of 'young innocents' (unadulterated women (and children, teens, etc)... and then given the right environment, inducements, they are merely tapping that quantum reality that is all around us and potentially available to every conscious being... I have heard about the hair part, there could very well be something to it...

I also find it interesting about the hair part because i heard Duncan O'Finioan talking about it on his blog. Saying that it helped in
his abilities almost like an antennae. so maybe there's something to it.

[Inversion]

A US Green Beret was spotted wearing a Nazi Totenkopf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf).

dailymail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13249665/US-Army-probe-Alabama-soldier-Nazi-symbol.html)

Birmingham-based 20th Special Forces Group posted an image of a Green Beret sporting what looked like a Hitler-inspired patch
The image appeared to use the Totenkopf which appeared on the uniform of concentration camp guards
It also appeared to depict a palm tree similar to a badge seen on Nazi troops in North Africa

Additional source: armytimes (https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2024/03/27/the-3rd-group-roots-of-this-unofficial-nazi-inspired-green-beret-logo/)

Black Sun (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?411-Benjamin-Fulford-s-posts-and-reports&p=1512748&viewfull=1#post1512748) information.

The Black Sun: Montauk’s Nazi-Tibetan Connection (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114560-Peter-Moon-Books&p=1420681&viewfull=1#post1420681)

P156. SS is Schwarze Sonne in German meaning black sun.

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