Isa 14:12

[nzreva]

Isa 14:12
KJV
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The King James Version and all Latin versions have Lucifer in them. Which covers up the understanding of what happen.

Isa 14:12 14:12 read from right to left in Hebrew .
you have Fallen נָפַל naphal from heaven הֵילֵל heylel (not lucifer).
Who is Heylel in this verse? Son of שַׁחַר shachar =son of morning
Heyl-El notice he was an El that fell from heaven. His father (mother?) is Shachar. http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H7837&t=KJV the root word shachar means to seek early http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H7836&t=KJV.

The root word for Heylel is one that is highly favored http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H1984&t=KJV
Naphal YHWH Elohim is how Gen 2:21 reads

And the וַיַּפֵּל יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים Naphal YHWH Elohim caused (naphal) a deep sleep to fall (naphal) upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs (chamber), and closed up the flesh instead thereof;http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=2&t=KJV&p=0#s=t_conc_2021

In Hebrew their are different YHWH Elohim, in Gen 2:21 It says clearley it was Naphal YHWH Elohim.

YHWH has a root word Haya http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H1961&t=KJV to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out. Haya the root helps us to understand that reality from YHWH Elohim can be brought into existence, we posses that ability, if we are willing to endure to the end. I am getting off the subject. I will post this and finish later...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I didn't read the whole page, but here is a good one: http://www.triumphpro.com/lucifer-logos-origin.htm
Also: http://blowthetrumpet.org/WhoseNameisLucifer.htm

[ghostrider]

Be careful reading anything approved/authorized by the King of England ... He used englishmen to translate Hebrew and Greek , , instead of using a Hebrew to translate Hebrew , and a Greek to translate Greek , etc ... not to mention the evil the council of Nicea did in 325 AD ...

[nzreva]

The Catholic Church does not approve Hebrew or Greek, they use Latin, which was corrupted by them. We should be careful about anything we read.

[dsldog]

The Catholic Church is most certainly NOT what it was under Constantine when the Council of Nicea was held.
Nore is it the outfit it became in the later middle ages, which was rather sad. But the church cant any more
say those edicts were wrong than they can deny Christ because to do so would be to deny the Holy Spirit.
Hence women and married men cannot be priests even when it's allowed in other Roman Catholic rites
(look it up). Thus do we get all kinds of travesty.

The Bible is a book about mans relationship with God. But it was written by men. Just look at what
Constantine's hacks left out.

You are on a journey towards truth, just look you will find it.

--jc

[truth4me]

The Catholic Church does not approve Hebrew or Greek, they use Latin, which was corrupted by them. We should be careful about anything we read. We have a winner!