A Timeline Essential Question

[Mandala]

For many of us oldie-goldies, who have been around here forever, I have a question that I need feedback on.

Many of you will remember the tale of 2 main timelines with Dan Burisch stating that one was very destructive and totally different than the one we are supposedly on now. He mentions that Hilary Clinton was President when the calamity happened.

I have heard that she intends to throw her hat in the ring for 2016. If she becomes President, is it a possibility that the line we are on now, which was diverted from the original, returns to the main trunk line and the things which were stopped, pick up and carry on as a delayed consequence?

I remember reading a passage saying that when Yellow Book or Yellow Cube (not sure, which name), was used by TBTB years ago, Washington, D.C. was seen under many feet of brackish water, as well as a lot of the eastern coastline.

This device was of alien technology that we acquired and used to see future events. Supposedly, it showed only possibilities of future events and depended on who was using the device as to what possibilities were shown.

I was pretty new to all the information at the time, and have had a chance for several years to ponder and think on some of our many conversations and discussions.

I have began to wonder after much research if the time period of around 2016 is one of concern. It seems to fit with weather changes, earth changes, and also holds the possibility of Clinton being President.:confused:

Thanks, I appreciate you feedback. Mandala

[ghostrider]

We are on course , according to the henoch prophesy , there are some cosmic events that cannot be changed ... it wouldn't surprise me if Hillary became President , the way things go the very thing you think wouldn't happen , does ... I remember even Bob Dean speaking about some perilous times around 2016 ... you know what is said , you get the same information from at least three different sources , there could be something to it ...If we as earthlings don't change our thinking , and take responsibility for our world , we will continue down the road of sorrows ...

[happyuk]

I remember reading the very same thing, that Hilary was meant to be the blue-eyed girl, and was/is as much of an Establish figure as anyone. And then, from seemingly out of nowhere this dude comes along and steals the show. Every indication was that she should have become President - it was a no-brainer.

She appeared to be trying too hard. She had a 350-strong staff and recruited bloggers and new media whiz-kids but Mrs Clinton's web strategy came across as an out-of-touch parent. Obama on the other hand was a natural.

She did herself no favours by referring to working class voters as being "bitter" and clinging to God and guns, but at the end of the day the better person won. Obama has a far better ability to connect and communicate and is arguably one of the most powerful public speakers America has seen in generation.

I think that there is whole lot more to Obama than is let on, while the Clintons, Bushes et al were tools who have been used. People are not stupid - Jesse Jackson was never going to win anything, while Obama was tailor made.

In December 2007, Mrs Clinton said: "I'm in it for the long run. It's not a very long run. It'll be over by February 5th" - just the nail in the coffin needed for those nice men in the white coats running the Yellow Cube.

[korgh]

Hi Mandala,
Here is my theory about it..
The tale of 2 main timelines is about probability. What happen in one will happen on other at their own way.
There is a thread about some similar questions here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67436-Time-Travel-and-Predetermination).
In a time line, there is a possibility to create infinites branches for each action dinamically as alternative when the continuum time line has a change. These endless variables are and possibles. If change some event's route at the same time another event is created ( branches) and more variables will be added.
The fact of some event maybe occur in the future (alternative or not) , it can be changed.
I have heard about that alien device, but it can show one of many alternatives in the future. i don't remember where i saw it but i have bookmarked somewhere.
Well, but with a device like that, money and the TPTB as sponsor, i think that is no so hard to becomes president... actually, they even forge birth certificates :)

[Mandala]

I did dig up some older information from Project Camelot for our newer people. Here is the link for everything, and I will provide a few paragraphs for those who would like to know what kind of info is contained there.

http://projectcamelot.org/2009.html

4) The Biggest Picture

What follows here is a simple summary of a complex and unbelievable array of events and factors. Please see The Big Picture for some more on this, which is also a work in progress.

In our view it is compelling that the American military learned of a major threat to the survival of the species - possibly as long ago as the late 1940s. Time-portal technology gained at least partially from our visitors (whether they are space travelers, or time travelers as we believe), convinced the military that a major future catastrophe was possible or probable.

5) What was observed

One source, which we have not yet reported, has told us that on 5 November, 1971, using a device called a chronovisor, the US Supreme Court Building in Washington, DC, was observed "under about a hundred feet of brackish water".
We are still in touch with the witness who told us of what he observed using the chronovisor, though he is not yet ready to come forward in public with his entire astonishing story.

Jake Simpson (see above) stated to us very clearly that the well-estimated date of a potential cataclysmic event was later than 2012. He suggested that 2017 or 2018 might be closer, and that if nothing had occurred by 2020 or so, the danger could safely be considered to be past.

According to Dan Burisch, in testimony which we regard as credible, the future humans' best evaluation of the catastrophe which befell their ancestors (i.e. us) was that it was caused by micro-wormholes in space-time which caused effects which were inadvertently and devastatingly amplified by man-made stargates and time-portal 'Looking Glass' devices.

Having been warned, the solution was therefore to decommission these devices - wherever they were, and whoever had them. Dan reports that this has been done.

According to information we have learned from Dan personally, and also reported on his blog, we are no longer on Timeline 2 (or 'T2') - the name given to the catastrophic timeline. Detailed investigation was done into this last summer (2007) and Dan has reported that we are (or were, as of November 2007) on 'Variant 83 of Timeline 1'.

A few months after publishing the original 2008 article, we obtained permission from Dan Burisch to write a full report on Timeline 1, Variant 83. Among other things, this told of a war with Iran which was observed to start in October 2008, soon followed by Hillary Clinton's election as the new US President.

[Operator]

Well, certainly a period ahead to keep our eyes (incl. the 3rd one) wide open.

I think it all revolves around deception from a diversity of parties to another set of parties.
(Along the same lines as e.g. Vril and Thule influenced the period just before WW II)

Like Richard Allen Miller reminds us from time to time:
Ancient native American wisdom says "Man should be careful choosing the thoughts he wishes to entertain".

I think it would be wise for us to create our own future instead of letting someone else force a pre-depicted
future on us. How about "We lead, they follow" ...

[korgh]

Thank you-
I found some information about the "Timeline 1, Variant 83" and i have to read it closer.
Also, there are some comments referring the same subject that i found, but is hard to understand because i need more data and some text do not makes sense in the whole. It looks like extracted from forum or so, but refers about some stuff of Dr Dan Burisch, stargates, ganesh, etc..
I'll try to understand what is behind this and i will try to keep this thread updated. Is a very interesting subject.
Cheers

[jounai]

I believe that the timeline experienced is different for everyone that is included in the current Earth experience. For myself I see a period of calamity in the form of some natural disaster thingy in the years to come. This is followed by a kind of awakening of humanity which basically means that we will have peace on the planet. We will connect consciously with the greater galactic community and begin our transcendence of all our challenges as a race. The destruction and pollution of the planet will stop and we will start assisting it to recover from our centuries long abuse. I see myself living to about 140ish right now, but that is of course not written in stone. Ah, there can be more written but I believe this gives a taste of the jounai-timeline. :heh:
Which timeline are you living in? :shocked:

[Selene]

As I recall from having been a member of Dan Burisch’s forum in 2008, he seemed pretty convinced at that time that Hilary would be the next president but also implied that, as president, she would be assassinated. Her assassination was also apparently part of his understanding of timeline T1 v83.

However, as events swung toward Obama, this apparently put us onto “a new unknown timeline...”, according to Dan at that time.

But the year 2016 as some kind of significant marker has turned up in two key contexts here: Dan’s original comments in 2008, and those in 2013 by Simon Parkes. Both allude to the closing/passing of some kind of time window or energy field/portal in that year:

1) Dan said in 2008 that we were [presently] passing through some kind of dangerous field with a high probability for the long-term negative consequences that the P52 time travellers returned here to warn us about (hence the decommissioned Looking Glasses). He said the Looking Glasses would remain out of service until this period had safely passed probably about 2016.

2) Simon Parkes has also referred to 2016 as the end of a period of ‘maximum opportunity’ for the Draco/NWO group to assume total control of our planet. He has alluded to the closing of an energy portal at that time, which would then deny the Draco reptilians their off-world support and thereby ensure their eventual demise here.

It seems to me that both men are talking about a similar situation. So 2016 might indeed be last-ditch opportunity for another Clinton in the White House as a key marker for a timeline.

Also the extent to which our present, evolving timeline is truly “unknown” to Dan’s boss, the former head of the NSA Admiral J. Michael McConnell, is in my opinion a bit of flimflam by the power brokers. It seems highly unlikely to me that if there were at least 83 variants of T1 (and the actual number is probably >83) that there would not be among these other possibilities one or two which would more accurately describe our present situation. The NSA still knows something about what’s next; they haven’t stopped their march toward absolute tyranny. And putting Hilary in the White House could still be part of their plan.

Dan has always been carefully mind-controlled and kept on a very short leash by McConnell, a useful ‘asset’ in the NSA’s psyops operations. So we need to be aware that enough of what Dan said was released in order to maintain his credibility with the public – but that was only so they could use him to insert a whopper when needed. Caution is always advised when interpreting Dan’s comments after his initial ‘controlled disclosure’ credibility-building interviews with Project Camelot.

As for Simon, he seems to me at this point to be fairly straightforward, although efforts by the Draco to corral or ‘turn’ him must also be ongoing. I wish him well. He is a good man.

Time marches on. The score is tied and the game continues....

Cheers,

Selene

[Alien Ramone]

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000254650/profiles_TimelineT1v83_2440_954454_media.jpeg

Edit:
In one time branch, Hillary Clinton beat Obama out for the 2008 Democrat nomination and became President with Kerry as her running mate. Hillary was assassinated and Kerry took over with, I believe, Bill Richardson as his vice President. Then very bad things happened with possible combinations of wars involving the U.S., Iran, Pakistan, India, China, and Russia.

Also I will add that the timeline involved Hillary inheriting a war with Iran that Bush started, and a timeline branch is shown for McCain becoming President in 2008 which leads to the same war consequences that the Kerry/Richardson Administration did.

I will add another thing. I remember that in one of the interviews, Burisch thought Hillary was being brave for still running for the nomination when when she knew what might happen to her, so It didn't seem to me like Burisch thought of Hillary as a cause for the bad outcomes that could happen.

[norman]

I wonder if it's safe to say this here?

I've been thinking today about the timelines thing and I feel I have to say I don't 'believe it'.

I can't really say I've reached a conclusion about anything because there may be more evidence to evolve my thinking further and further.

But, as I sit here right now, I'm pretty well convinced "timelines" are a false concept we've been injected with for a purpose. The most likely reason for that is to enable the rest of the time travel acrobatics we've been told about to stand up as making some kind of logical sense.

I can handle the idea of timelessness as in a quantum physics mindset. I can even handle the idea of bending spacetime to get to distant places in the 3d/4d universe. What I have a complete block about is the fancy fairytaleness of visiting events in history and turning up as an inert extra that either didn't effect any change on history or created a split timeline to account for it.

That last point is exactly why I'm writing this post. I think split timelines are just that. A concept dreamed up to validate the idea of moving up and down historic time like a lift going floor to floor in a tall building. That's the thing that's just far to rediculous for my sensibilties to take seriously.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I agree that the concept of "timelines" seems too linear and simplistic to explain the convergence of group phenomenon. If reality is actually simultaneous, there are multiple probabilities that move into shifting patterns- sort of like a kaleidoscope - with each of our intentions and thoughts creating our shared experience. The primary advice that comes to mind is to choose thoughts carefully. To think of a predestined timeline as a series of events unfolding may be a serious fallacy- which then creates that reality!!