Economic Recovery My A$$!

[GreenGuy]

Mainstream news reports that our economy is recovering. I don't know anyone who's better off. I haven't been able to find a job in 2 1/2 years - those that have been created involve grease and spatulas. I'm a highly trained craftsman. Nevertheless the only way I see to go is forward and up. What's gone is gone, and the criminals who destroyed this economy are still in power. Check out this article from Natural News that puts the economy in perspective....

Seven devastating, inescapable economic facts for America (http://www.naturalnews.com/043583_economic_facts_America_financial_demise.html)

[Operator]

Ok, this vid has been posted before:

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I just repeat it here to have a direct reference to it again so you don't have to look for it anymore.

I've seen it months ago and in the meantime there was time to let this info sink in ...

My conclusion is that the economy will not recover at all ... don't count on it. In fact the guy in the video
is confirming a theory that developed in my mind overtime. Money is not going to solve anything. Economy
is a farce, just a bunch of confusing terms. Better to use your own common sense !

I am considering writing a piece on it ... but I need to find some time.

In short: I think they are afraid of a growing and changing world population because it will show the ongoing
scam faster and faster, one of the reasons the FED cannot stop printing loads of money each month.

All working people, especially in 'growing' economies, create value every day. This 'value' is supposed to be
paid for by money and is accumulated to the pile of everything that created value in the past. Most of the created
value will never go away. This means that whatever you are going to use as money has to be infinite. And by
definition everything that is infinitely available has no value (or a diminishing value).
So, do we now understand why they don't want third world countries to develop ! That would speed up their
anticipated problems more and more. And also, the more people are unemployed the slower value creation goes.
So that's in their advantage ...

[korgh]

Mainstream news reports that our economy is recovering. I don't know anyone who's better off. I haven't been able to find a job in 2 1/2 years - those that have been created involve grease and spatulas. I'm a highly trained craftsman. Nevertheless the only way I see to go is forward and up. What's gone is gone, and the criminals who destroyed this economy are still in power. Check out this article from Natural News that puts the economy in perspective....

Seven devastating, inescapable economic facts for America (http://www.naturalnews.com/043583_economic_facts_America_financial_demise.html)

Same here in EU. (With help of the Bilderberg Group and their followers)

The number of unemployed are raising day by day, families are mired in poverty and debt continues out of control, but all is ok and EU countries are recovering fast.
Soon we will enter in the new order and everything will be fine...

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[pumashared]

this is the new normal. we need to understand that its going to be like this for a while and probably get worse. but hey if 95% of the world believes were in a good shape than there will be no rebellion
really sad

[Yetti]

Hello Greenguy , Remember the media belongs to one guy that sleeps with the NWO, so you'll never going to get a real news besides of what they want you to hear!
Take by example , anything on cnn needs to be translate like this: take the news and remove the half of BS, turn the rest 180 degrees and maybe the half of the remaining result have some truth! . WHAT I'm trying to say is you need to read between lines, all the news are filtered an air waved according to a plan, or purpose ,far beyond to inform you! . You get it now. Yetti

[GreenGuy]

this is the new normal. we need to understand that its going to be like this for a while and probably get worse. but hey if 95% of the world believes were in a good shape than there will be no rebellion
really sad

Actually, what I believe is that things are more or less as they should be. There's no way that the people of earth can create a just and free society unless the present order of things is completely washed away - something that the various crowds of the planet have almost no chance of accomplishing, except perhaps by a guerrilla war that would last for decades. But lo, and behold: those in power have become increasingly mad with greed and shortsighted lust, and they've painted themselves into a corner.

They've created a system that is more and more unsustainable. The dream of a small group of unimaginably, obscenely rich families controlling an entire planet of intelligent, spiritual, sassy human beings, is simply that, a childish, selfish dream. No can do, people ain't made that way. So in trying to create a society that snoops and spies and controls and punishes anyone they like for any reason they can make up, the PTB have created monstrosities of legal mazes and bureaucracies that are so top-heavy, they are like the cooling tanks at Fukushima. All it'll take is an earthquake, or a monsoon, or a whistleblower, and they will start to topple. Today's institutions, like the Romans, crumble under their own bloated, unproductive weight. A few crucial errors in judgment, a few too many scandals, a few to many barbarians at the gates, and all of a sudden there's nothing but quicksand.

Which happens to be what we're witnessing today, not just in the US but in all the nations that have bought into the materialist set of paradigms. Recognizing it doesn't ease the pain much, as we all watch the train wreck happen in super slo-mo. And anticipating it doesn't guarantee a golden age in our near future, either. However, avoiding it and finding some way to prop up the current system does guarantee no golden age around the next bend, or the next, or the next.

I'm basically content to ride this thing out. I think we are entering into a period of savage chaos. Beyond that, I think we have a decent chance of a kind of golden age. There will certainly be survivors of the chaos, and there will be pockets of rationality and tranquility. People will get tired of fighting all the time. There will be a blossoming of new/old, nature-friendly technology, once the fortresses of energy and oil and money have fallen. In the absence of idiotic, drool-inducing entertainment, people will rediscover gardens and books. Folks will write letters again, on paper. They'll talk to each other, and they'll barter, and perhaps they'll judge each other less. It won't be a new dark age. After a little while, it won't feel dark at all.

[8Adamas8]

I'm basically content to ride this thing out. I think we are entering into a period of savage chaos. Beyond that, I think we have a decent chance of a kind of golden age. There will certainly be survivors of the chaos, and there will be pockets of rationality and tranquility. People will get tired of fighting all the time. There will be a blossoming of new/old, nature-friendly technology, once the fortresses of energy and oil and money have fallen. In the absence of idiotic, drool-inducing entertainment, people will rediscover gardens and books. Folks will write letters again, on paper. They'll talk to each other, and they'll barter, and perhaps they'll judge each other less. It won't be a new dark age. After a little while, it won't feel dark at all.

In this golden age spiritual understanding will be so great any use of technology would be redundant. We would be the nature friendly technology. Writing letters would even be useless as travel would be instantaneous and we would communicate with thought from the heart instead of spoken word. Materialism would be non-existent and everyone would have everything the needed, barter would become irrelevant.

[Operator]

In this golden age spiritual understanding will be so great any use of technology would be redundant. We would be the nature friendly technology. Writing letters would even be useless as travel would be instantaneous and we would communicate with thought from the heart instead of spoken word. Materialism would be non-existent and everyone would have everything the needed, barter would become irrelevant.

I hear what you say and also think we should do away with money and maybe even barter to save this civilization. Otherwise it will
be the sixth time we wipe ourselves from the earth. But I think we're still far from the "spiritual understanding" that you mention.

I think that even the most "enlightened" people present here and now are not even ready yet to accept that, let alone the
remainder of the populous.

[ghostrider]

A lady was let go at work today , she has three girls she is the sole bread winner , and I still don't know why she was canned ... two other co-workers went part time , as they are young and going to jr colledge , ehummm one book used = 248.000 dollars , used ... my favorite parts store that's been in business 60 yrs , closed ... my appliance company I worked for , in business for 48 yrs in the same location , closed ... if this is a recovery I don't want to see a recession ...my job had 15 employees on site when I was sent there to help out, in feb 2013 , slowly every month one gone then another , now we have 7 ... the mainstream can say anything but , real life tells the real story ...

[Operator]

A lady was let go at work today , she has three girls she is the sole bread winner , and I still don't know why she was canned ... two other co-workers went part time , as they are young and going to jr colledge , ehummm one book used = 248.000 dollars , used ... my favorite parts store that's been in business 60 yrs , closed ... my appliance company I worked for , in business for 48 yrs in the same location , closed ... if this is a recovery I don't want to see a recession ...my job had 15 employees on site when I was sent there to help out, in feb 2013 , slowly every month one gone then another , now we have 7 ... the mainstream can say anything but , real life tells the real story ...

Synchronicity causes that my wife is pre-checking some history exams of another teacher. Topic is industrial revolution.
She read to me from history paragraphs that people then were destroying machines because they caused people to be
out of work. We couldn't do such a thing nowadays although we might want to. Machines do far too complex things
that we could not replicate by hand.

Bottom line is that we somehow got used to live with that situation then and so we must adapt to the new situation
again. With 3d printers coming into existence, printing food etc. etc. our very existence comes under pressure.

If the technology isn't abused for malevolent purposes we might do better soon. But 40 .. 48 hours workweeks are
maybe then something of the past. We may have more time on our hands and more opportunity to develop ourselves.

I think the momentum is here but is up to us what we do with it.
Yeah sure, making ourselves obsolete is one of the possibilities :rolleyes:

[MargueriteBee]

Maybe they are talking about corporate recovery not us.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

but all is ok and EU countries are recovering fast.

Funny you say that, I am not seeing it, two friends of mine just got laid off, they worked in a distribution center for a chain of drugstores, so, toothbrushes, shampoo, soap, aspirin and vitamins sales are down, that's as close as downsizing on personal human necessities as a human can get, so people are broke and rather stink then not eat, that's the choices people are confronted with at this very moment if you ask me, we're f@cked here in Europe as well, and in the near future you will be able to smell it, literally.

[korgh]

but all is ok and EU countries are recovering fast.

Funny you say that, I am not seeing it, two friends of mine just got laid off, they worked in a distribution center for a chain of drugstores, so, toothbrushes, shampoo, soap, aspirin and vitamins sales are down, that's as close as downsizing on personal human necessities as a human can get, so people are broke and rather stink then not eat, that's the choices people are confronted with at this very moment if you ask me, we're f@cked here in Europe as well, and in the near future you will be able to smell it, literally.

Here in the E.U., people only have access to the most basic needs at an acceptable price, but on the other hand, the health system and education is far from what should be the European dream.
Banks are profiting from the misery of the citizens, and the government of most European countries get their share of this profit. Currently, the European Parliament does nothing more than take measures to destroy the sovereignty of E.U. countries and increase the capital of big private companies.
Durao Barroso (European Commission President), Christine Lagarde and Mario Draghi are just puppets and puppeteers in this game. The iluminati's game.
That's what i think.

[Dorjezigzag]

The economy maybe(?) growing, unfortunately very little of that money filters down to the average man and even less to the poor who really need it.

The economy is growing because the rich are getting richer and richer, buying their increasingly ostentatious luxury products such as Rolls Royce cars ( which had a record year in 2013) and yachts. Their businesses are becoming more efficient as they cut more and more workers, squeezing all they have out of the ones remaining and replacing them with machines whenever they can

The economy is also growing because we are having to pay more and more for basic necessities, making us less well off but the rich even richer because they are the ones who are doing the criminal selling with their monopolized price fixing.

Is the average man better off, of course not.

[conk]

The Federal Reserve keeps on putting another coat of paint on a rotten piece of wood, over and over again. Soon the wood will be completely rotted and gone, with nothing left for the paint to cling to. All the paint in the world can't cover up this horrific mess. There will be no economic recovery! The math cannot be made to work. They cannot inflate the currency to infinity.

[Yetti]

Yes ! and thank you Greenguy! . extremely well exposed idea. I AGREE 700% w/you. And let me tell you , there is a lot of good we can do to made the things go our way, number one is try to awake others that still asleep, but not, imposing any believe system , just help them nourish their curiosity and let them dig by themselves! That's what I'm trying to do every day w/my co-workers, neighborgs etc. Also in a subtle way to ask for demanding MADE IN USA goods at stores instead of any made in china S..T ! This may-could bring back some jobs. On this subject I firmly think that NOW is the moment for a small business to re-start manufacturing goods ,based on quality and w/a tag: PROUDLY MADE IN USA. there is a lot of people like me ,tired to try to find good quality goods, tools clothes, FOOD, , you name it! Don't you think? YETTI

[Yetti]

It is of my believe that the only positive thing we can do is to fight the gangsters at the power position trying to remove our right of feed ourselves with organic food at local levels, if those tugs continues to ban this and that for the small farmers and favoring the big guys w/Monsanto's approval, we'll be poisoned to death in no time, don't you believe this? . Research about on depopulation agendas, mandatory vaccinations , fema camps , NWO, and you will have a closer idea about what's going on here. Do not let the legislators aproove anything that's ban to have your own vegie garden, milk your own cow, etc. YETTI

[GreenGuy]

I also believe staying positive is the best solution. That doesn't mean we run away or hide our heads in the sand, and it doesn't mean eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die. It means we know there are some major readjustments coming, and we are doing what we can to prepare for them. And we do what we've always done, as far as finding joy.

For some folks that means depression and a frown. Others are able to extract gratitude and beauty from any circumstances.

I'm always urging people to do some gardening. It's not just about making a dent in your food budget - although you CAN do that in a space as small as an apartment patio! I've noticed that when you work a garden throughout the year, laying out beds, breaking clods, seeding, thinning, nurturing plants, and then producing beautiful and healthful results, you also, almost subliminally, pick up knowledge and habits that are in harmony with the earth and the things that grow from it. A good garden isn't necessarily beautiful, but it is always harmonious.

[vilcabamba]

Well, according to Dr. Dream (Laura Eisenhower's partner) ...THE UNIVERSE ALWAYS PROVIDES...according to him, don't worry if you lose your money..the universe will always provide for you. I'm saying this after he gave advice to a friend of mine, telling her not to worry about the economic situation..bc the universe will always provide for you! And now this person is not doing anything to protect themselves against the financial collapse and they are a senior citizen b/c of Dr. Dream's awful advice. I hope he doesn't harm too many people with his new agey delusional advice.

[GreenGuy]

Well, according to Dr. Dream (Laura Eisenhower's partner) ...THE UNIVERSE ALWAYS PROVIDES...according to him, don't worry if you lose your money..the universe will always provide for you.

In the most general sense, I'd agree with him. The caveat is that what the Universe provides, and what you want or think you need, may be miles apart. My dad used to say that the Universe is a Safe Place. I believe that's true metaphysically, but it still helps to be at the top of the food chain.