Courtney Brown Announcement for February (now March) 2014

[johnf]

Guess I have got carried off here ...
:hand:

I don't think you got carried away, I think that this particular part of the subject is the most important.
A more in depth discussion of where all this interest in abilities came from, and how the more sound spiritual base gets abandoned to create yet another controlling activity.
might turn out to be very helpful in the future, especially since a lot of forms of it seem to be coming with unwanted strings.


I have spent a long time chasing the flashier parts of spiritually linked subjects, and have always felt that I had come home when I got back to the simplicity behind all "searching",
which for me is to find that the actual reality is already here, what I am is enough.
The searcher, the seeker is not the real me , but a by product of believing I need more than what is already here.

You mentioned context of the work out of which these Siddhis arise.
I have stated as close as I can, what I understand that to be.

Your experience in the traditional search goes far deeper than mine, I would like to hear more from you specifically about the contexts available to a student. Perhaps all who have followed this thread can now be looking at what will we do with all that Courtney has done here, and how will we find something of substance to further a healthier world?

JohnF

[Ilie Pandia]

I still struggle with the "Siddhis that you're not supposed to use" concept...

It's like one day I discover I can run or swim and then some masters tell me that I should limit myself to waking and not abuse swimming or running, nor desire then nor make use of them in a "wordily" manner. This is not new, I've found these ideas in many books and quotes.

To me this looks like a "do not cross" barrier whose purpose is to keep humans at a certain level of development and no further! God forbid you would demonstrate PK powers or teleportation to the "ignorant" masses! The master (or some karmic process) will be quick to punish you an put you back in line or some bad thing or disaster will come of it... so keep your power hidden.

This also has parallels to "giving weapons to children" and perhaps some powers can be abused more easily than others? But those that can be liken to swimming or running should not be hidden, restricted, avoided, not used, not enjoyed and so on... If I want to take my chances and run... why should I not be allowed to do it :)? Why should I run in hiding or with special groups and just walk for the rest of the time... same goes with "advanced/efficient" perception abilities (with their hierarchies of higher and lesser ones...)

Another thing that seems confusing is that "wordily matters" are somehow more "mundane" and less "sacred" than "spiritual pursuit/growth", and therefore not worthy to make use of "special abilities" in such cases. That kinda throws out the window "The Divine in every one and every thing" (that including a basked of rotten apples, just to give a mild example here).

I may be completely ignorant of such issues and I reserve the right to change my mind later on :p.

[Agape]

Ilie .. you can have an exception .. and go by the ''Always use your special powers'' rule . There's such a rule... as forum webmaster, you know better than I how important it is to go by the book...

Practise comes with 'repeated exercise' . Rule is an exercise . The final state has no rules no exercises .

There is no master or rules outside of yourself .. you are to be the master, you are the master of yourself .

John ..please let me think before reply ....


;)

[Ilie Pandia]

Interesting analogy... I do have "Administrative Powers" over this forum. I do not abuse them, but so far I have not been tempted to, so it does not feel like I am restricted by a rule book. But a very good analogy indeed, that my mind can grasp...

Meditate on this, I will....

EDIT: The more I think of it the more it makes sense :becky:. I am having a pretty big AHA! moment here... so thank you!

[Eram]

Hi Ilie,

Maybe, when one makes the decision to go for the state of the so called "enlightenment", which is all about 100% identification with unconditional love, then it might become a distraction to engage in activities such as you describe.

On other accounts, such as trying to live in truth, I fail to see a reason as to stay away from these. :)

[Selene]

Wonderful explanation, Agape, in your eloquent posts. Reminds me of a story:

Once, a great devotee prayed: Dearest Creator, I have the great pleasure of living in your presence, but none of my dear family and friends are here. Can I bring them to see you?

The Creator replied: Yes, of course! Bring them along and I’ll be pleased to admit them into my presence.... So the devotee gathered up all of his friends and family who excitedly followed him along the path toward the divine presence.

Suddenly, the sky began to rain silver coins. And much of the crowd stopped right there and began to gather the coins, loading up their pockets and arms with as much as they could carry. “Never mind!” they said. “We’ll stay here!”

The rest climbed on. And the sky now began to rain gold in abundance. Most of the remaining group stopped, gathering up as much as they could.

The few trudged on. And suddenly the sky began dropping diamonds and jewels.

In the end, only the devotee arrived back at the Creator’s realm.

That’s why the siddhis are considered a distraction in spiritual development. They’re along the way, not the goal.

Cheers,

Selene

[johnf]

Interesting analogy... I do have "Administrative Powers" over this forum. I do not abuse them, but so far I have not been tempted to, so it does not feel like I am restricted by a rule book. But a very good analogy indeed, that my mind can grasp...

Meditate on this, I will....

EDIT: The more I think of it the more it makes sense :becky:. I am having a pretty big AHA! moment here... so thank you!

The ability to be a responsible administrator on a forum includes the abilities to create strong drastic effects on others.
So skills centering around dealing with emotions, civil ways of reminding others of the forum rules, etc are important to learn first.
In my view, spiritual abilities come out of a larger set of abilities, including detachment, compassion, awareness of consequences etc that if not learned well
before skills that create drastic effects on the physical universe such as looking at battle plans hundreds of miles away ,etc.
The big factor in all this seems to me to be the self, or specialness traps, that can lead to abuses of power, assuming of false authority, etc.

JohnF

[Agape]

Interesting analogy... I do have "Administrative Powers" over this forum. I do not abuse them, but so far I have not been tempted to, so it does not feel like I am restricted by a rule book. But a very good analogy indeed, that my mind can grasp...

Meditate on this, I will....

EDIT: The more I think of it the more it makes sense :becky:. I am having a pretty big AHA! moment here... so thank you!

I would never suspect you to abuse your Admin powers . The rules .. are rules of programming you've once learned, acquired, trained .. so you can use them now for everyones benefit .
That's what I meant 'going by the book', naturally , accompanied by your moral credit that predicted your being chosen for the role .

It says .. there's something to train.. to achieve good results . Unless you come from the 'we're already there' point of view . The problem with all of us .. most of us... is that we are slow students .

We do things we know that we should not do .


;)

[GuyFox]

Does anyone else get a negative feeling from C Brown's manner of speaking? I feel he is over-enunciating; nervous; not at ease with what he is saying . Is he being "used" or "forced" in some way to participate in this? I ALMOST hear/see a cry for help, or am I totally insane by now (not impossible!:eek: _

That's just him, reading - what he feels is an important message.
There's nothing wrong with it IMHO

Some things you should know about Courtney Brown:

+ He was president of his class, when a student at Rutgers
+ He (must have) surely studied acting and performance
+ He meditates regularly and is a vegetarian
+ He has a son named "Aziz" - whose name may have been chosen by the mother

If you want to hear his "more natural voice", I think you will pick it up in this segment where he is teaching
in his Sci-Fi and Politics course, re: Left Hand of Darkness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwtkgiPyjk)

[GuyFox]

I hoped for a different first presentation by an external party with irrefutable proof and then add the RV stuff.

I didn't hope for it. I expected it...
/ Parts cut out /
...And then this is the big one:

Feb 15

What I need now is some sleep. I have been on the phone all night with people in the U.K., India, South Africa, and elsewhere, all involved with the upcoming announcement. From the very beginning, the anticipated date of the announcement was 28 February 2014. But there were some uncertainties due to the international nature of the issues involved, so we held off releasing the date. It was wise we did that. Nothing can stop the announcement, but the date involved a lot of coordination with various parties. The problem has been further exacerbated due to the fact that the announcement involves a location which at the present time is not entirely stable politically. Also, shipping of critical materials was involved, and one shipment turned out to have been corrupted, apparently while in transit. This is now being addressed.

After lots of discussion with people all over the world who are involved one way or another, we are now expecting the announcement to happen in mid-March, about two weeks later than originally anticipated.

No, it wasn't my imagination. It's my comprehension.

And my comprehension skills are just fine.
[/CENTER]

Might this just mean:

There's MORE to Come ? !

[Agape]

In my view, spiritual abilities come out of a larger set of abilities, including detachment, compassion, awareness of consequences etc that if not learned well
before skills that create drastic effects on the physical universe such as looking at battle plans hundreds of miles away ,etc.
The big factor in all this seems to me to be the self, or specialness traps, that can lead to abuses of power, assuming of false authority, etc.



It's often the movies that portray it otherwise . The importance of media as means of modern education and influencing the public can be hardly underestimated .

There was another thought on the topic I had today ... before I ever came here, about the iconic Matrix movie series and the message that's only , barely visible now but will become more important in future .

The internet already represents the beginning of the Matrix .. and we are already getting tied to it and it's an easy way how to connect people , but also easy way to keep us 'hooked' and under control .

We feed 'it' with our living energy, already, literally .. it's running 'on our batteries' . Of course you can always opt out and there are billions of people who don't have access to the net but they will .

What's being openly prognosed for next 20 to 40 years is massive evolution of artificial intelligence .. we can expect smarter computers .. in backgrounds as well and more sophisticated means that will provide people mass virtual entertainment/entrainment .

You can opt out ... but those out will be in fact , more controllable by people 'with more information' ,
so people with technical skills like Ilie , our future Neos will be very important .

The contest of Mind Powers versus Technology may turn very huge . Because they effectively desire technologies that will outsmart any average human . Yet .. we have some of those latent , unseen powers in 'our pockets' that won't be unleashed until the time they're needed most ,

this may not concern us but the next generation more , anyway .

....

Also , what John asked about previously and what I think is important ... is that every 'spiritual education' should have some solid base . Earlier generations at least, read their holy scriptures .. to us today, they're freely available,
we have a capacity to understand .. yet many do not bother .

There are millions of cheap books and movies to keep children and adults entertained indefinitely and the message is seldom uncorrupted .
Once you're wise and old, maybe you can make use of it all but I pity the children .

There's too much violence in all those movies, too many suggestive messages, subliminal programming, distractive energy .

Who can really take it all in then 'meditate on that' . Yes we should. I should. But as far as my own sensitivity is concerned and the way I'm tuned ..
I'd need to close 'all' and then meditate properly .


Till I'm on internet .. I feel compelled to learn , to absorb information, 'make sense of things' that are offered to me .. I was always fascinated with libraries .. of course, this is one way to look at it .. but it's endless adventure .. or maybe, like every library .. has back door to the garden ?



:angel:

[13th Warrior]

I still struggle with the "Siddhis that you're not supposed to use" concept...

It's like one day I discover I can run or swim and then some masters tell me that I should limit myself to waking and not abuse swimming or running, nor desire then nor make use of them in a "wordily" manner. This is not new, I've found these ideas in many books and quotes.

To me this looks like a "do not cross" barrier whose purpose is to keep humans at a certain level of development and no further! God forbid you would demonstrate PK powers or teleportation to the "ignorant" masses! The master (or some karmic process) will be quick to punish you an put you back in line or some bad thing or disaster will come of it... so keep your power hidden.

This also has parallels to "giving weapons to children" and perhaps some powers can be abused more easily than others? But those that can be liken to swimming or running should not be hidden, restricted, avoided, not used, not enjoyed and so on... If I want to take my chances and run... why should I not be allowed to do it :)? Why should I run in hiding or with special groups and just walk for the rest of the time... same goes with "advanced/efficient" perception abilities (with their hierarchies of higher and lesser ones...)

Another thing that seems confusing is that "wordily matters" are somehow more "mundane" and less "sacred" than "spiritual pursuit/growth", and therefore not worthy to make use of "special abilities" in such cases. That kinda throws out the window "The Divine in every one and every thing" (that including a basked of rotten apples, just to give a mild example here).

I may be completely ignorant of such issues and I reserve the right to change my mind later on :p.

This is the dichotomy of the right/left hand path. The right hand path would have you merge or become one with Source. The left hand path; you want to become a god (express your personal power)...

[frozen alchemy]

This amateur but not untalented RV'er posted over on Courtney Brown's Facebook page, and I think his discussion of the last day or two is fascinating, as well as much more informative of the whole RV process and interpretation than Courtney has managed:

http://danpouliot.com/blog/2014/03/on-courtney-browns-farsight-planet-2014-great-pyramid-of-giza/




His video is peppered with unscientific, unsupportable, absolutist rhetoric like, “there can be no doubt”, “unambiguous”, “impossible”, “obvious”, “it may be the most important announcement that anyone has ever made”, “the most mysterious puzzle in human history has been resolved”, “the quality of the remote viewing data obtained by Dick Allgire and Daz Smith is equal to that which would have been obtained if they were physically present at the time when the pyramids were being constructed”; and that’s just in the first 15 minutes!

'snip'

My criticism is not of RV in general. From that perspective I am an ally to Courtney and I hope he regards my comments as they are intended: a friendly critique.

My criticism is his hasty, unfounded conclusions (the hallmark of both pseudo-scientific and pseudo-skeptical thinking); his failure to cite and counter possible confounding factors; his use of absolutes like “no doubt” and “impossible”— intellectual peer pressure, meant to convey that only the ignorant would take issue with him. My objections to his analysis are valid; his claim of “no doubt” is not.

Do I think, like Courtney, that widespread acceptance of the phenomena that makes RV possible can change the world? Absolutely! Do I think that Courtney presented this project with sufficient rigor, dispassion and clarity in a way that could, or would, or should increase acceptance of RV? Do these sessions constitute unambiguous, undeniable proof of ‘ET’ contributions to the pyramids? No and no.



My own objections and consternation at the way this was presented probably rallied around the fact that at this point, March 15, after a big buildup dating back to January, I was thinking of the number of human-hours that were already used up in the reading about the pronouncements, the discussion of them in numerous places like this forum and Facebook (as well as dozens of others), then the 20 minute movie that he insisted we watch 'to the end' (which just reiterated the same information a few times over); multiply that times thousands of people and you have an enormous amount of time already invested. Then the bait and switch of 'click here to watch the movie' and it's a pay per view. He mentions the time involved in making the movie, but we all had at that point, already invested much of OUR time, having been snookered into the whole drama of it.

Yes, the drawings were available for free but you kind of had to hunt for them. I went through them all and they were most definitely interesting, and I was also quite thankful that I didn't need to once again listen to Courtney interpret them for me. I can do that myself, thank you.

I also wonder if what we were seeing wasn't so much a 'blind' experiment as it was the same RVers he works with all the time psychically honing in on the topic 'how and why were the pyramids built' and then giving Courtney back what he expected. And then Courtney is the one doing the interpretation, completely removing any 'blindness' from the process! This is not how science is done, and the debunkers and kneejerk cynics will be all over it, and Courtney has to know that by now.

Virtually the same thing happened in his 'What was Jesus doing during the crucifixion' RVing experiment. He interpreted the 'subject's calm peaceful mental state in a garden-like environment' during the the time frame of the crucifixion as being indicative of proof that Jesus hadn't died at all, which I thought was far more than just a stretch. Add in that some RVers reported, or it was interpreted as such, that a mentally ill man was drugged and took Jesus' place and well... you get the idea. I'm an atheist who has no personal belief that Jesus the man ever even existed, yet I have major problems with accepting this rewrite to the historical account from a few people's RV session.

How do you vet these kind of things, and how do they 'change everything?'

[Wind]

Courtney wrote several posts two hours ago:


As I posted in mid-February of this year when I create my official Facebook Page, I described how I am going to transition that page to contain all of the Farsight materials. Everything related to Farsight that was posted on this Facebook profile has also been posted to the Facebook page, and there is no reason for the duplication. I described how I would do that after the major announcement, and that is around now. So, starting this week, I will begin restructuring this profile page to resume its normal task of containing my personal themes, ideas, and art. I will continue to post many Farsight things on this profile page, but I that will only be during a transition period to give people to time to work with the official page.

Here is the official Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/CourtneyBrownPhD


It is always difficult to do anything in a public way these says, especially on the Internet. Most of the people following this Facebook page (about 8,000) are doing so for the positive benefit the information contains on it may provide. The negative posts that are appearing here by people who seem disappointed about the recent announcement are repetitive, and they can destroy a page's positive benefit. It is OK to disagree with something, but to destroy something is different. Unfortunately, destruction is all too common today. Anger is an intense emotion.

Remember that all of life is a creation. We are all artists, and we create our lives like an artist who paints on canvas, but we do it with the energy of life as the medium. All that I do, with and without Farsight, is a work of art, and I value each creation, just as I value the creation of others. If someone does not like a creation, it is OK to leave. There is no one holding you here. But you want to respect the venue where the creation resides so that others who do appreciate the creation can absorb what they wish. If you are someone who is upset with the announcement, however important I may feel it to be, simply "Unfriend/Unfollow" and move on. I will still respect you and your creation regardless of whether you respect mine.

To restructure this page, I will begin in a few days to more carefully limit the posts that appear here. I do not wish to censor. But this is my house.


Lots of people are asking about using remote viewing to find the missing plane that is in the news these days. It is a good example to use to say that our projects often take a year to complete. There is an extensive time to set up the targets and design the experiment. Then there is the viewing time. Then there is the analysis. This why we only do scientific projects. We never do things that are current news stories. Finding the missing plane is important, but I suspect that all of the mystery of that story will resolve by itself in the near future. Let's hope so.

[Harley]

For your info:

Courtney Brown
4:57 PM

Lots of people are asking about using remote viewing to find the missing plane that is in the news these days. It is a good example to use to say that our projects often take a year to complete. There is an extensive time to set up the targets and design the experiment. Then there is the viewing time. Then there is the analysis. This why we only do scientific projects. We never do things that are current news stories. Finding the missing plane is important, but I suspect that all of the mystery of that story will resolve by itself in the near future. Let's hope so.

[crosby]

there is more to the announcement. there is more to come. we all must be vigilant and process what we think we know. i have no problem with waiting. and i respect the information that i have received. i want to thank everyone who has participated with this thread. it is vital to keep moving forward.
warmest regards,
crosby

[thunder24]

For your info:

Courtney Brown
4:57 PM

Lots of people are asking about using remote viewing to find the missing plane that is in the news these days. It is a good example to use to say that our projects often take a year to complete. There is an extensive time to set up the targets and design the experiment. Then there is the viewing time. Then there is the analysis. This why we only do scientific projects. We never do things that are current news stories. Finding the missing plane is important, but I suspect that all of the mystery of that story will resolve by itself in the near future. Let's hope so.

:confused: :wacko: whats the difference in psychic and remote viewing.... the difference between 5th grade and college?!

[Synchronicity]

For your info:

Courtney Brown
4:57 PM

Lots of people are asking about using remote viewing to find the missing plane that is in the news these days. It is a good example to use to say that our projects often take a year to complete. There is an extensive time to set up the targets and design the experiment. Then there is the viewing time. Then there is the analysis. This why we only do scientific projects. We never do things that are current news stories. Finding the missing plane is important, but I suspect that all of the mystery of that story will resolve by itself in the near future. Let's hope so.

Well, they might take a year, but there isn't any reason for anyone else to take a year. I'm not criticizing...just saying the reality is it doesn't take a year to do something like that. A year to set up targets and design an experiment? Really? Once again I am reminded of the difference between reaching, connecting, and seeing/feeling/sensing, and all the rest of it. Not saying there isn't a place for both or that both don't have merit, but it is interesting to consider different ways of getting the same information. To each his own, I suppose.

We shall see...who knows what else he has to say? Have a nice night, everyone! Enjoy it...we can't go back and change the past and we can't force the future to be how we think it must be, but we can take some time to find some peace inside. In the long run that is what matters and really not all the fluff :)

[crosby]

keep moving forward.
crosby

[Synchronicity]

For your info:

Courtney Brown
4:57 PM

Lots of people are asking about using remote viewing to find the missing plane that is in the news these days. It is a good example to use to say that our projects often take a year to complete. There is an extensive time to set up the targets and design the experiment. Then there is the viewing time. Then there is the analysis. This why we only do scientific projects. We never do things that are current news stories. Finding the missing plane is important, but I suspect that all of the mystery of that story will resolve by itself in the near future. Let's hope so.

:confused: :wacko: whats the difference in psychic and remote viewing.... the difference between 5th grade and college?!

Oh, no one truly can prove there is one and in the long run, I wonder if it matters? No one has to have any particular education level to do either. It's all in the perspective of whether it's about recognition or results and whether people are helped, I think personally. Maybe it's all the same and maybe not...there is just no way to know that I can think of, but then, I only have the college education and sometimes I think a 5th grade could make more sense of things without all the rest of the "noise" in the way. :)

[crosby]

maybe it is really all about what was seen, in the end.
crosby

[Hervé]

[...]


Lots of people are asking about using remote viewing to find the missing plane that is in the news these days. It is a good example to use to say that our projects often take a year to complete. There is an extensive time to set up the targets and design the experiment. Then there is the viewing time. Then there is the analysis. This why we only do scientific projects. We never do things that are current news stories. Finding the missing plane is important, but I suspect that all of the mystery of that story will resolve by itself in the near future. Let's hope so.
That's a prime example of the obfuscation perpetrated by PTB and their minions (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=809954&viewfull=1#post809954) <---):

"It takes time and it's very complicated..." it all has to be controlled in order to be "scientifically" acceptable by "authorities."

Besides, Courtney did mention in one of his interviews that it's a firm policy of his to not step on any government toes and that plane isn't going to lead anywhere else than to some government toes....

[thunder24]

thats my point....




For your info:

Courtney Brown
4:57 PM

Lots of people are asking about using remote viewing to find the missing plane that is in the news these days. It is a good example to use to say that our projects often take a year to complete. There is an extensive time to set up the targets and design the experiment. Then there is the viewing time. Then there is the analysis. This why we only do scientific projects. We never do things that are current news stories. Finding the missing plane is important, but I suspect that all of the mystery of that story will resolve by itself in the near future. Let's hope so.

:confused: :wacko: whats the difference in psychic and remote viewing.... the difference between 5th grade and college?!

Oh, no one truly can prove there is one and in the long run, I wonder if it matters? No one has to have any particular education level to do either. It's all in the perspective of whether it's about recognition or results and whether people are helped, I think personally. Maybe it's all the same and maybe not...there is just no way to know that I can think of, but then, I only have the college education and sometimes I think a 5th grade could make more sense of things without all the rest of the "noise" in the way. :)

[crosby]

keep moving forward.........................
crosby

[jackovesk]

Newbie (Members) & (Guests) new to the (Rabbit Hole) aside...


You ((ALL)) got exactly what you ((DESERVED)) or (Wanted)...:wizard:

You choose which one applies to you..? http://www.texaswills.com/Content/images/Articles/unclesam.png


I know this will go in one ear & out the other...:ear:

...until the (Next Big Thing) and what's even (Worse) 99% of you will jump onto the next Big (Announcement/Prediction) and do it all over again...:faint:


Some are no different to the (Blind-Sheeple FOLLOWERS) when it comes down to matters like these...:scared:

PS - So here's the (Merry-Go-Round)...

You better (Jump-On) quickly before you (ALL) miss out on the next ((Dodgy Ride))...:pound:

http://media2.giphy.com/media/2vqNLFamPiGyY/200.gif

Simply (Mind :wacko: Boggling) isn't it...:no:

[PathWalker]

Greetings all,

I want to remind you the following aspect in this thread.

Courtney Brown has an agenda, the agenda is not explicit.
The most guarded secret (mentioned in the implications) is the Human power to control reality, the current statement is a leading distraction, using extraordinary data/information.
Courtney Brown is challenging the authority of any MSM knowledge source (mentioned in the implications) but his authority.


My aspect is:

We are programmed to accept authority and accept knowledge with tags attached (science, logic, expert, mystic, channel...).
We are discouraged from evaluating knowledge with our inner guidance/feeling.
We are programmed that public knowledge is correct.

My conclusions:

Knowledge without action is useless. Does it matter in my daily life that we were/are controlled by non human races?
The life-changing empowerment is a spiritual process.
Change starts when we awaken to our responsibility in creating our (each person and collective) reality.
CB is trying to manipulate the collective reality (doing good job so far).


I am looking forward to substantial empowering spiritual information. On the personal level.
I am optimistic.

[GuyFox]

My aspect is:

We are programmed to accept authority and accept knowledge with tags attached (science, logic, expert, mystic, channel...).
We are discouraged from evaluating knowledge with our inner guidance/feeling.
We are programmed that public knowledge is correct.

My conclusions:

Knowledge without action is useless. Does it matter in my daily life that we were/are controlled by non human races?
The life-changing empowerment is a spiritual process.
Change starts when we awaken to our responsibility in creating our (each person and collective) reality.
CB is trying to manipulate the collective reality (doing good job so far).


I am looking forward to substantial empowering spiritual information. On the personal level.
I am optimistic.

Great stuff !
I like your approach here, Path Walker...

TAKE A ROLE in the reality that we are co-creating around this Drama.

At this point I want to REMIND people of the Implications, that Courtney has written, which I have summarized as follows.
(You can also watch a Youtube VIDEO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eajIAxqxOKc) about the Implications):

===Courtney Brown's Implications Postings - One Line Summaries
===
#1 : ET's appear to have interfered with humans in our past
#2 : Earth has been run like a Prison Planet

#3 : Control is surrendered to others through our beliefs
#4 : Free will can return when people realise they are being manipulated

#5 : Memories are being suppressed to keep us imprisoned
#6 : We all seem to have some memories from "elsewhere", off this planet.

#7 : The power of Star Wars comes from the memories it invokes in us
#8 : The best place to hide information is in plain sight, protected by the risk of ridicule

#9 : Control over the masses is maintained by authorizing what information is accepted as "real"
#10 : Many people stay passive victims, while awaiting change, rather than leading it

#11 : To change elites, and create a better world, a society must only change it collective consciousness
#12 : RV shows that consciousness extends throughout all of time and space - and does not die

#13 : ET's have intervened in human affairs to cause changes in our beliefs
#14 : The Big Announcement will come on March 15th

#15 : Revolution and a new era can come without violence, when new beliefs spread among the masses
#16 : Leadership of a country always reflects consciousness of the people; but new ideas can trigger big changes

#17 : Action reflects a change in thinking, without a change in thinking and willingness to act, there may be no change
#18 : TPTB maintain authority through ownership and control of media; denying access to dissenters

#19 : Psychological bondage comes from brainwashing and repetition; intelligent cynicism can break it, but needs persistence
#20 : "Cheerleaders" in service of TPTB, have misled the masses, we need to be aware of such manipulation and see it

#21 : The masses must learn better discernment, and be less willing to be led, more independent
#22 : Flytraps are set up by TPTB capture and disarm critical new ideas; Seek what is revolutionary and life-affirming

#23 : Nothing that is not believed can be perceived, including pain. New beliefs can shift people away from their suffering, weakening TPTB.
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Surely, we can all do more with this material than just make negative comments,
justifying why we have a right to be disappointed !

For instance, you could explain:
What would you have Courtney Brown do now?

Might he ask for suggestions for RV projects that would demonstrate more powerfully that we have an ET presence on Earth?
How might such a project be designed?

[Timewaster]

I am starting to get the same vibe with Courtney Brown as I do with Steven Greer

[superconsciousness]

We have been waiting patiently for someone to finally break the code - you get the prize.

C.B. and S.G. work with (for) the same group...with the same agenda.

Otm4RusESNU

[GuyFox]

I am starting to get the same vibe with Courtney Brown as I do with Steven Greer

Which means... ?

(I reckon that Greer was a Reptilian in a previous life, and is trying to atone for something he regretted doing. - Just a weird theory I have.)

If you listen to Dr. Brown talking to his students about Sci-Fi and politics, I think you would not get the same vibe for these two at all.

So I think your "intuitive" response is ill-informed.

I find must people are basically lazy, and are very happy to jump to conclusions without having done their own research. This case is a great example of that.

[Finefeather]

Now that the rush has died down a bit I thought I would post my post which I wrote a while back.

I have a few thoughts on this process of remote viewing...as is presented in the Farsight system...which I would like to share with you all if I may...because IMO there is a very definite logical error which keeps me from having any real confidence in the conclusions which are made by Mr Brown.

First...the term 'Remote Viewing' is not an esoteric term, and it does not come up in any of the 'spiritual' philosophies that I have seen. The best term I can come up with which matches the original intention of remote viewing is mind projection...but lets just carry on a while...

The word 'remote' should tell us something. By remote I would understand it to mean, that what we are attempting to view is remote from our current location, if we are talking relative to our body...and that logically therefore we need to project some part of us to the target in order to gain some information about that target.
So remote viewing is called remote viewing because the intention of this term was and still is to remotely gain access to information, as in spying on the enemy, for example...an explanation which would fit in well with the intention of say a government or the military...from where the word came I believe.

So how could this be achieved?

We can use out of body travel or mind projection...both of these phenomena can fulfil this requirement.

Now...out of body, or astral, travelling, can be an objective experience in the 'astral' or emotional world...but it has a very big potential flaw...because it is the only world in which we can create anything with the slightest unfocused thoughts in our minds...this can easily lead to bringing back wrong information and or illusions which appear as objective to the unsuspecting, ill trained traveller.

I also know that mind can be split and we can project our awareness remotely in the mental world. This world is free from the illusion of the emotional world and we see only what we experience. The mental world has no illusions...no feelings.

It would also be useful now to mention other phenomena like psychometry and telepathy which are overlooked by most and often seen as something which is away from the 'ordinary' person's experience. Little is it known, however, that these 2 phenomena play a major role in our interactions in real life...we just don't pay enough attention to them when they occur.

Now lets look at what events we can view remotely.

There is current events and past events...I am not going to deal with future here because there are no fixed or certain future events...even though many probabilities do become true...they are only fixed once they occur. There is also, just to mention it, the fact that moments before we actually do anything we have already thought it. Even a sudden, involuntary movement, which we think is due to our built in nerve system as a protection mechanism is predetermined, by probability...our physical consciousness just cannot realise it.

So if something exists now in some remote place we can use OB or mind projection to retrieve the information...whereas if the event is in the past and no longer is manifest...it is present only in the immediate memory of a person, who has actually witnessed it...or...in the case of history and no record is present, or person can remember it...is only present in the planetary collective memory...sometimes called akashic records.

So...I would like to propose that what Courtney is presenting as remote viewing is in fact not remote viewing but past event viewing...and here lies the biggest problem, which I can see, to his claims:

If it is the case that Courtney, or anyone for that matter, is the one who initiates and comes up with the target. and then it is given to a person to remote view then this process is just a form of psychometry/telepathy.,,and not real remote viewing....these 'remote viewers' are picking up on the thought form created around the target envelope or item or instruction and most certainly not on the historic event. They will therefore be subjected to the initiators ideas and beliefs and not to the actual event.

Why do I say this?

Because only people known as 'Causal Selves' can access the dimension of planetary memory, and if these remote viewers were Causal Selves they would know it...and not even need the target to guide them...and they would be as accurate as watching a video of the event. Examples of Causal Beings would be akin to a highly advanced Being and they would not be sitting around dishing out insignificant stories of our history which in reality plays no part in what should be our most immediate goal. Of course a lot of us seem to think that this 'great revelation' which we have just been handed is of some significance...when in fact it is just another distraction...and what do we have?... little tit bits of someone else's beliefs in a though form he/she has created in the emotional or astral world...which is the world of illusion.

You just have to gather all the many answers we have been given of the exact same thing. All different and each one claiming to be the real thing or the most likely...what are we ...the ignorant...to say about them...which answer do we each choose?...and why?

So...the entire Farsight process is flawed IMO. These 'remote viewers' are tuning into the original thought form of the target creator and of cause the whole picture that is formed is merely an illusion of the picture in the mind of the person who created the target.

Let me say, however, that despite what I have concluded, to do what these so called remote viewers are doing...if legit...is in fact a special gift and we should not just throw it aside as meaningless. There are many I have known who have this gift of psychometry and I have seen some pretty accurate readings with this talent...and telepathy, although practised by all unconsciously...will one day be part of normal interaction on the various levels which we use for communicating with our friends etc. I am sure there are many here who have experienced telepathy in some way...especially with close friends and relatives.

Now if we could present these 'remote viewers' with a piece of the pyramid it would be much more revealing...if the person is actually psychic and not in collusion with the creator of the target for some reason.

Take care now
Ray

[ThePythonicCow]

Thank-you, Ray. You have articulated what were my uneducated (in such arts) intuitions far better than I ever could.

[frozen alchemy]

Just to get back to the issue of RV'ing, why on earth would it take a full year to design the experiment, perform it and interpret the results? He gives the questions that were posed and they were basically, 'pyramids: who, what, why, how'; the two RVers spent a few hours getting their impressions down on paper and then there's the 'interpretation' done by Courtney himself, completely ruining any ability to call the experiment a blind one, but having looked at the material myself, he went from 'that's interesting' to 'this proves something', and from there jumped to 'this changes everything'. What happened was very manipulative of people's time and emotions.

I also don't understand why the hierarchical (NSA/CIA) model is being used. Why the need for the planner of the targets and then the same person interpreting the results? Can't the RV'ers do this themselves? Why couldn't these people set down with the idea of, say, finding the missing plane themselves, and then announce what they've come up with? Maybe one or even ten such mysteries solved wouldn't be proof of RV being paradigm-changing, but it would certainly be a good start.

[Pam]

Finefeather, I really appreciate your input. I would like to know how someone like Edgar Cayce would fit into the picture. Do you think he had access to planetary memory?

thanks , pam

[araucaria]

So...the entire Farsight process is flawed IMO. These 'remote viewers' are tuning into the original thought form of the target creator and of cause the whole picture that is formed is merely an illusion of the picture in the mind of the person who created the target.


Thank you Finefeather; this agrees with a conclusion I came to much more laboriously from a different angle (semiotics), notably in connection with an RV experiment to test van Flandern’s exploded planet hypothesis by checking out 3 asteroids.



Summarizing the above,[/B] the target object is always to some extent in the mind of the taskmaster, who may or may not be the tasker. The arbitrary conventional sign is like his customary illegible signature – whether he scribbled it himself or his PA used a rubber stamp is immaterial. There is potentially nothing, no target object ‘out there’ between the sender and the receiver. In fact there is no ‘out there’ at all, just the sender/receiver himself – and there being no distance to cover, there is no distortion of the message.
[snip]
This does not mean that the transmitted/received content is equatable to some objective truth, merely that the sender and receiver are ‘on the same wavelength’, ‘of like mind’ – have a shared subjectivity.

Hence the results of the 3 asteroids experiment are mere preaching to the choir. They would only surprise the uninterested mainstream scientist not open to van Flandern’s research and whose gradualist theory does not need testing, i.e. cannot be tested comparatively at this time for want of any serious alternative. Furthermore, for that person, testing through RV makes no sense at all, as the method is equally ‘crazy’. The results will not surprise someone open-minded enough to accept both the alternative astronomy and the reality of RV. Since that is also a description of the RV researcher himself, the mere asking of the question is enough to suggest the answer. But the experiment itself proves nothing beyond the experimenter’s expectations, and the RVers have simply read his mind – unanimously, because there was nothing else to view.

For the public receiving this RV result positively, it looks like validation of what they already thought. But it is only alternative science validating alternative science. For anyone else, it looks like validation of what they already thought: alternative science is bunkum. Like a lot of science, this research seems to be telling us what we already know.
[snip] The best and worst that can be said is that the status of the RV material is undecidable: it may be in some sense factual; then again it may be the work of the imagination, or even a malicious deception. We have no way of knowing, and until we do, always supposing that to be possible, ‘scientific remote viewing’ will remain a misnomer, a mere target or task.

[skippy]

A last point on this very amusing muppetshow. Was the event, starting with the implication postings a couple of months ago, an honest attempt to share some groundbreaking (inside) information to raise consciousness on a wider scale or was it just another sleek marketing campaign to raise awareness and funding for a personal business? I don’t have the answer, but the announcements of February (March) didn’t live up, not in the slightest, to the promise set by C. Brown beginning this year. Now, let's carry on..
:)

JHFXG3r_0B8

[Joe Akulis]

Yes, that was a very informative post by Ray. Cayce also popped into my head when I was reading. I've heard of other OOB explorers who in learning about the Akashic Records, or The Library, were met by stewards who would decide if they could go in. Not sure if that's true, but something I read. Anyway..

This makes me think about RVing in the context of the test where someone would put a piece of paper with some words on it in a room next door and then tell the RV psychic to read the words on the paper. That paper exists in the present, and someone knew it exists and someone wrote the words on it. So, following Ray's assertion, since these viewers are not accessing the akashic memories of the person who set up the sheet of paper, then they are actually checking out that paper as it exists in the present.

But if someone were to go over and burn the paper into ashes, and then come back and ask that person to view it as it appeared in the recent past, then they couldn't do it. They could only latch onto the residual 4th density thought form of that paper left behind by the person who wrote on it and placed it. If that thought form hasn't lost its energy and evaporated already. That can happen too, can't it?

[gripreaper]

...until the (Next Big Thing) and what's even (Worse) 99% of you will jump onto the next Big (Announcement/Prediction) and do it all over again

This is a programmed phenomenon which we humans are subject to. The alternative media is very adept at providing intriguing stories which fall "just outside" the mainstream media, so that it can be placed within a different reference and pitted against the mainstream, and those in the alternative can "feel" like they are on the leading edge.

The controllers "get this". They don't care what distracts us and entertains us, as long as we don't look inside and see how powerful we are, and continue to remain in the lower frequencies where our energy can be discordant and vampired. That's all they care about.

So, since I have been here, we have Charles Atticus, Drake, COBRA, and a host of others too numerous to mention, all prognosticators and purveyors of the latest truths.

There IS NO out there, only inside. What we are looking at is a reflection, a mirror, a hologram of what is inside, distractions from getting to our core internal nature and soul energy, where we can change the manifestation we are creating in the hologram.

How else can 1% of the inhabitants of this planet control 7 billion people? By feeding us stories, memes, distractions, and ideas that keep us from going within and changing.

In this regard, this site is no different as jack has pointed out.

[araucaria]

...until the (Next Big Thing) and what's even (Worse) 99% of you will jump onto the next Big (Announcement/Prediction) and do it all over again

This is a programmed phenomenon which we humans are subject to.
Some things need to be done over and over to be effective:


New moon coming on the weekend of the 29/30 March... Planning my 14th liver flush... Did my 13th last September.

;)

[Selene]

Thanks for your excellent post, Ray. You’ve perfectly identified my own concerns about Courtney’s methodology: it isn’t truly double-blind. When you have the same person who sets the target conducting the experiment itself it becomes impossible to distinguish true RV – see a distant target – from simple telepathy: read the thoughts of the experimenter.

A zillion years ago, when I was a volunteer test subject for research conducted under the auspices of the Society For Psychic Research, we used the most rigorous possible academic protocols to blind each step of the RV experiments:

• The person selecting the targets was unconnected with our group and did so without any knowledge of the purpose of their selections.

• The targets were then placed in sealed envelopes by another naive person. (God bless freshman psychology students..!)

• The lead experimenter never saw the opened envelope until after the session was complete.

• Hits and misses would be scored by another independent observer.

In other words, every effort was made to eliminate ‘simple’ (to us) telepathy and interpretive bias. But to be fair, at that point our interest was in proving statistically that the RV phenomenon exists at all.

And yes, “a year” to muddle through any of this does seem a bit...... :p

Cheers,

Selene

[NancyV]

........Let me say, however, that despite what I have concluded, to do what these so called remote viewers are doing...if legit...is in fact a special gift and we should not just throw it aside as meaningless. There are many I have known who have this gift of psychometry and I have seen some pretty accurate readings with this talent...and telepathy, although practised by all unconsciously...will one day be part of normal interaction on the various levels which we use for communicating with our friends etc. I am sure there are many here who have experienced telepathy in some way...especially with close friends and relatives.

Take care now
Ray
Wonderful post, Ray, I agree with almost all of what you've said although we may use a few different words to describe things. I draw attention to your comments about telepathy as something I may disagree with or at least fervently HOPE never comes to pass. The idea that we humans in a body at this level would have telepathy as we experience it in astral, mental, causal, etc. planes is horrifying! LOL...

Occasional flashes of telepathy, which I often experience, are exciting and fun, but how awful would it be to have FULL telepathy and know exactly what everyone was thinking! People would hate each other much more than they do now and we would all KNOW how petty our thoughts and the thoughts of others actually are at almost all times. Lies are a necessity that allow people to more easily work together and they certainly keep many marriages together that would otherwise fail. Telepathy could lead to more fighting, more hate, more wars.

I admit it would be interesting to see how humanity adapts to telepathy and evolves but it might be filled with many bloody battles and a lot of deaths. IF we developed telepathy we would also have to have huge amounts of empathy and ethics to go along with it. I don't see that happening but of course anything is possible.

I agree with your assessment of remote viewing and developed this attitude in the early 90's when I was spontaneously having many experiences that might be called remote viewing. Since I had already spent many years leaving my body I knew that this was different since I was aware of being in my body but my consciousness was viewing another scene, place or person. At that time I was very active in a chat room on AOL and several of us were experimenting with remote viewing and telepathy and had some mind blowing experiences over the Internet.

Apparently we were being watched as I was contacted by someone who wanted me to join a group that would work for the government in a remote viewing project. I thought it might be fun but I knew that it would bore me quite quickly. When you've experienced all the dimensions up to the Source you know that identifying and describing targets for a government would be a very silly game that would lose it's appeal quickly. I think the main reason one would even consider doing that is that it would stroke their ego. Even if I didn't follow through on doing this I have to admit that my ego was somewhat flattered. I always get a good laugh when I find that I continue to have many of the human weaknesses but completely understand that it is a natural state of the body/mind.

I don't know what Courtney's motives are. Many times we think we are doing good but it turns out to be either irrelevant or perverted into something not so good. After all these years I wonder if Courtney actually still believes that this remote viewing has great relevance or is at all dependable. If he does truly believe that it is relevant then I think his ego has probably gotten the best of him. Of course I don't know Courtney, although I've read about the Farsight Institute since it's inception, so I'm only speculating. I only know that I would come to realize that the past, present, and future are mutable and illusory to a large extent.

I still haven't figured out the Akashic records and have only been within them one time. It looked and felt like a pulsating, living library with knowledge of all possible pasts, presents and futures of the earth-plane. Not being particularly interested in hanging around earth I left and had no interest in returning. It felt like I was merging with all of it all at once, so returning would also have been redundant. I still don't know why it's there although it felt like it was a natural part of the mechanism of this planet/earth-plane. Perhaps each planet inhabited by soul beings has a similar living library of records. That seems logical but I don't know.

[Synchronicity]

A family member had a laptop that he used to go to sites (one of many out there and not any I was familiar with and he hadn't looked through the pictures, either, at the particular sites) that had pictures you could use for slideshow backgrounds or backgrounds for the computer screen. Now he didn't look at what pictures came up at all. Just clicked on the link and did not see what picture came up with the laptop faced away from him. So he had no clue whether it was daisies in a field, boats at a dock, the inside of a library, people walking down a dirt path, or a night sky with stars. No one else looked at them, either.

I sat in my living room a distance away and opened my mind to "the picture on his laptop screen right now" and reached for it. I did not try to say, "It's exactly this picture of a whatever it is", but instead let shapes, colors, and images flow. I didn't ask guides or anything else in particular to help me, since I didn't want it to be a journey with other help. I didn't ask that no one help, to be fair, but I didn't step back and ask for help as I would for a healing session or journey.

The first thing I saw was darkness with tiny lights and I felt really cold. It felt/looked to me as if I were standing outside, but I didn't interpret more than I actually felt at that point. I felt/saw that the bottom of the area was almost uncomfortably bright white and the top part was very dark with those tiny lights. I felt the presence of creatures that felt human with perhaps others present, as in companion animals...felt as if they weren't really active like running or jumping. I felt some kind of glow and a little warm from around them, but I was cold, the white was stark and there were little darker areas in it where the creatures' energy was gathered. I felt quiet and peace looking up to the dark top of the scene and quiet stillness from the bottom.

______________________

So I didn't go past that, and I didn't attempt any more interpretation. I just wrote what I experienced in about 15 or so minutes and emailed it to him. I went to his location and he, another family member, and we all read my comments and I brought my drawing of the division of the two parts of the picture and some various scrawls I had made along the way. We read the email I sent him and looked at the drawings, and we turned the screen around to see if anything matched. The entire process from start to finish took about 30 minutes.

The picture was a beautiful, crisp night sky with bright, tiny stars shining over a few snow-covered small huts or houses set in a field of deep snow with a bit of glow from what looked like small fireplaces inside and bright snowy reflection from the flash. The screen was basically divided into two sections horizontally as I drew and said, there were people in the houses or there wouldn't have been fires in the fireplaces, and they weren't out running or jumping around since there weren't prints in the snow. The file was I believe labeled that it was Inuit village or something similar, but no title was on the screen.

So someone obviously did see the picture when taking it and uploading it, but no one knew who was present to set it up which of the set of pictures came up or which picture was on the screen, so I didn't get it from his mind. (just a note..no one will play Battleship with me because I see their ship arrangement in my head and it spoils the game, so that was a concern and we wanted it double blind) We did this with 4 or 5 pictures and as long as I didn't state outright it was a picture of something I was pretty much on target. When I just said it once to see what happened I had the right ideas but misinterpreted what I saw.

Anyway, I didn't post this to show I am good or whatever, and please feel free to pick the technique apart and tell me if you see where I got the info that wasn't from the screen. I posted it just to say that I think that while we can do a present day target and many people can do pretty well, that the only way to get results that are valid doesn't have to be taking a year and so forth, and that I do know we have many more senses than we are taught as kids. This isn't magic or bizarre, but knowing it was accurate back when pyramids were built to me is a different matter, as others have said. Was what they saw skewed by so many humans thinking aliens did it or Courtney knowing the target or was it exactly as they saw? I have no idea, but me seeing that picture or what I experience when I do distance healing work isn't going to sway science at this point and I know that. I can't prove something that no one can verify, I guess is what I'm saying. I just posted my little free and simple home RV fun to say it's possible to get good results in more than one way. As I said, please feel free to break down my test errors...I have nothing to prove and doesn't bother me a bit :)

[Finefeather]

Finefeather, I really appreciate your input. I would like to know how someone like Edgar Cayce would fit into the picture. Do you think he had access to planetary memory?

thanks , pam
Dear Pam
A lot of water has flowed under the bridge since I delved into the Edgar Cayce writings so please correct me if I am wrong :)

He was known as the sleeping prophet and this may be because some other Self was doing the prophesy and he was just the medium, the same as the Ra stuff.
If this was a case of genuine higher realm communication then it is unlikely that he himself was a Causal Self, because if he was he would not need to fall asleep to access planetary memory.
Having said that...the information which came through him might have been...but I have not studied his information enough to make a comment about his accuracy or his consciousness level.

There are genuine mediums and then there are those who think they are.

In my experience, most genuine truth comes from real living incarnated Selfs who are often unknown to the general public and their entire life is prepared and dedicated to give out truth.
Unfortunately a large amount of this truth has fallen into the hands of those who have turned them into the many works of fiction we see in the world today.
There are more genuine highly evolved Selves on earth than you might suspect...but their work does not always 'resonate' with the masses because of the intense amount of indoctrination we have been subjected to.
There are many who think they have the truth in their hands and are convinced of their own wisdom...but we are collectively still far from the real reality.

On the brighter side, there are, fortunately, present at this time, a great band of servers who are incarnating from other worlds, as well as our more advanced human brothers, whose purpose it is to draw our attention more and more to the truth of the brotherhood of man and the necessity for unconditional love amongst us.

With love
Ray

[ThePythonicCow]

An experiment I'd like to see, similar in intent to what Synchronicity reports above, would be a variation of the Schrodinger cat experiment.

Inside a box sealed from all sorts of electromagnetic fields put a random number hardware generator and computer technology, running off a timer and battery. Have it select between some visually distinct alternatives.

Then have the viewer say which alternative was selected, and open the box to see what the actual selection was. The alternatives could even be from a small (say 16) set of visually distinct choices, and this set of choices could even be well known to the viewer prior to the test runs. A success rate better than random would be easily detected.

Another possibly interesting variable in the test would be which electromagnetic frequencies were filtered by the box -- all or all but some pass through band.

[Snowflower]

I really appreciate the deep thoughts and analysis of the whole concept of RVing, but I don't understand why it's needed to determine absolute, irrefutable proof or not. I just listened to a few interviews with Ed Dames on Coast to Coast. He said, with 100% certitude that such and such would happen, and it didn't. That's pretty simple and pretty conclusive.

[ThePythonicCow]

I really appreciate the deep thoughts and analysis of the whole concept of RVing, but I don't understand why it's needed to determine absolute, irrefutable proof or not. I just listened to a few interviews with Ed Dames on Coast to Coast. He said, with 100% certitude that such and such would happen, and it didn't. That's pretty simple and pretty conclusive.

Well, it's conclusive that not all RV claims are 100% valid.

It's a far cry from that to concluding that no RV claims are valid.

[Selene]

Nicely done, Synchronicity and Nancy V.

Your methodologies were great. And you both clicked into two key factors: enthusiasm for experimenting, and getting feedback to your ideas. Both are indispensable for good results. "What the heck" and "just try it" - in other words, not putting any performance pressure on yourselves - has been shown to give better results overall.

And the opportunity to check out your results - to match your impressions to the actual target is one of the most important tools for learning how your own inner landscape works and improving your performance. Some people are more visual, some twig to smells, sounds, tactile sensations. Learning more about yourself is the key to developing your own psychic skills. As always: Inquire Within.

Great to hear from you.

Cheers,

Selene

[Selene]

An experiment I'd like to see, similar in intent to what Synchronicity reports above, would be a variation of the Schrodinger cat experiment.

Inside a box sealed from all sorts of electromagnetic fields put a random number hardware generator and computer technology, running off a timer and battery. Have it select between some visually distinct alternatives.

Then have the viewer say which alternative was selected, and open the box to see what the actual selection was. The alternatives could even be from a small (say 16) set of visually distinct choices, and this set of choices could even be well known to the viewer prior to the test runs. A success rate better than random would be easily detected.

Another possibly interesting variable in the test would be which electromagnetic frequencies were filtered by the box -- all or all but some pass through band.

There have been variations of this protocol done over the years, at Princeton if memory serves, including some that identified random number targets before the target had been generated. These are somewhere in the classic literature, but I don't recall the text at the moment.

Cheers,

Selene

[Synchronicity]

We also did a few with a random number generator program on the laptop with my hands over it with energy flowing through my hands with numbers not being seen on the screen, time marked when I felt specific energy flowing, just had my hands over it without anything but my own human flow, and without hands. We did that several times and each time you could see when I put my hands over the laptop (it matched the timing an observer noted each exact time), when I asked energy to flow, and when I pulled my hands away that the numbers skewed one way when I pulled away and one when I asked for the energy, and then when I just held my hands there it was a slight difference, but it was there. We did that several times and it matched each time. I'm not saying whatever that proved, if anything, but each time the numbers went the same way for each action. It was fun and interesting to see. But again, I'm not presenting it to prove anything and thought it was interesting since people feel where energy workers' hands are many times when they aren't touching and near the body, and many feel the exact shape of how I'm moving my hands (not just me...happens with others as well) even face down and not knowing if I'm standing still or having hands over them except for the feeling. It made me wonder and we tried it with the laptop. The universe is so full of amazing things to explore!

[Synchronicity]

I really appreciate the deep thoughts and analysis of the whole concept of RVing, but I don't understand why it's needed to determine absolute, irrefutable proof or not. I just listened to a few interviews with Ed Dames on Coast to Coast. He said, with 100% certitude that such and such would happen, and it didn't. That's pretty simple and pretty conclusive.

That doesn't disprove anything but that he was right, though. I can't pole vault at this point in my life, but there are wonderful pole vaulters who can do it, so it is possible. Hey, I never could pole vault...this time in my life? Never, I would say :) It seems to me the problem isn't so much that this technique or that idea is or isn't possible in most areas of study or exploration. It's when statements are made about something being true or working all of the time or none of it. Saying something is impossible or always true is just asking to be discounted or disproved. I think it's easy to start thinking (general observation and not related to anything in particular here) that our way is the 100% right way or only way, and then the ego takes over and logical thinking tends to stop working well.

Also, making public comments on controversial or unproven subjects is always risky to the speaker's credibility, so the consideration of the psychology of the situation and how best to present it really helps. It's easy to seem to be a kook or arrogant when those "always", "never", "impossible", and "only my way" statements go on record, and it's easy to fall prey to that disconnect between audience and perception of the motive and method when we get passionate and focused (or obsessed) with something. The challenge, I think, is to find the balance between passion and reason. I think from all the threads on so many forums, much less the actual speakers discussing so many theories and advocates, debunkers, and ways of looking at the universe, it's fairly easily demonstrated that this balance isn't always easy to find. :)

[superconsciousness]

The best way to control and/or monitor a movement/initiative is to place your lead sheep in front of the herd...et voilà ici !‎!!

[Shezbeth]

Thank you for your post NancyV, I both enjoyed it and agree with the bulk of. I hope you will pardon my exception to the following.


Occasional flashes of telepathy, which I often experience, are exciting and fun, but how awful would it be to have FULL telepathy and know exactly what everyone was thinking! People would hate each other much more than they do now and we would all KNOW how petty our thoughts and the thoughts of others actually are at almost all times(1). Lies are a necessity that allow people to more easily work together and they certainly keep many marriages together that would otherwise fail. Telepathy could lead to more fighting, more hate, more wars.

I admit it would be interesting to see how humanity adapts to telepathy and evolves but it might be filled with many bloody battles and a lot of deaths. IF we developed telepathy we would also have to have huge amounts of empathy and ethics to go along with it(2). I don't see that happening but of course anything is possible.

(1) I fail to see how this could be a bad thing. I for one feel it is high time that individuals recognize the pettiness of their thoughts and actions. Whether by comparison or personal inventory, I see nothing lost from an increase in awareness. Any hate that might result is/would-be derived of the individual's (expressing OR receiving) unresolved conflicts and inability to adapt to the previous/current circumstances and adversities.

I freely/fully contest that lies are a necessity for interaction. My experience suggests that this perception is both a rationale and crutch, in place precisely so that individuals interacting in a social framework are neither required nor inspired to refine their strategies, methods, and standards. When there is no requisite demand for emergence and/or pursuit of higher standards of dispositional conduct, only those who are predisposed to pursue higher standards of dispositional conduct will, while the remainder will content themselves with 'meeting expectations'.

I further suggest that any friction that might result of the perceptibility of an individual's thoughts is more to do with the degree of maturity of the individual in whom the friction arises. In particular, I am reminded of the subject of tact. On the one hand, a person who is tactful will naturally gravitate towards expressions that avoid aggravating a situation, circumstances, or individuals. On the other hand, a person who is tactless will potentiate a response in those unable to dismiss the apparent tactlessness. This point (tact/tactless) alludes to the question of offense and consequence; Avalon abounds with examples of either type.

One person can claim that another person's thoughts, words, or ideas are offensive, but the reality is that it is the offended person for whom there is conflict. I'm not about to attempt to excuse unacceptable behavior (violence, etc.) nor allow generalizations to include such, but especially as pertains to thoughts and ideas everyone is entitled to their own disposition and every disposition is obsequent to some form of consequence.

Consequences that occur within/around the individual are the responsibility of the individual, and I theorize that telepathy would help to bring this idea to the forefront of human interaction. I perceive this is what would necessitate the empathy and ethics (BOTH personal and inter-social) that is mentioned at point (2), which I see as the likely/inevitable result of greater telepathic development en masse.

Quite simply - I agree, at the outset people would be horrible to one another in response to greater telepathic/psychic development of humanity, but I counter by saying that people are horrible to one another already precisely because instead of an open, honest, and sincere exchange of ideas and thoughts, we have the filtered, 'socialized', and 'culturally acceptable' standard of behaving/interacting; This does an acceptable job of potentiating a minimum threshold of conducive interaction, but entirely avoids ideas of progression, development, and increased capacity.

[araucaria]

Have it select between some visually distinct alternatives.

Then have the viewer say which alternative was selected,
One of Courtney's protocols involves 'paired targets', 'chosen to be as different from each other as possible', with some viewers assigned to one, and others to the other (Remote Viewing, p.60). I don't know if this does the job.

This book has one odd feature: it has a page on Courtney's background in RV that fails to mention Ed Dames by name. Dames is never mentioned in the whole 300 pages. Now why is that?

[ThePythonicCow]

There have been variations of this protocol done over the years, at Princeton if memory serves, including some that identified random number targets before the target had been generated. These are somewhere in the classic literature, but I don't recall the text at the moment.
These experiments remind me of the double slit experiments in quantum mechanics ... in both cases the results run counter to (conventional) intuition, and I'd have to study the protocol in fine detail, both to convince myself that the experiment actually showed what the stated conclusions claimed it showed, and also to understand just how I would have to adjust my intuitions as to "how things worked."

Summaries for the lay audience, or even conclusions in formal research papers, are notorious for being misleading or for presuming more about "how things work" than the actual experiments demonstrate.

(But, yes, I do vaguely recall reading of such RV experiments, sometime long ago ... now that you mention it, I'm sure you're right that something that at least claimed to be along these lines was done.)

[Agape]

Finefeather :


There is current events and past events...I am not going to deal with future here because there are no fixed or certain future events...even though many probabilities do become true...they are only fixed once they occur. There is also, just to mention it, the fact that moments before we actually do anything we have already thought it. Even a sudden, involuntary movement, which we think is due to our built in nerve system as a protection mechanism is predetermined, by probability...our physical consciousness just cannot realise it.


Using this snippet of your paragraph .. I beg to differ in my understanding probably from every 'traditional' explanation of 'RV' or 'direct insight' ,

but I promise not to mislead you faraway from Truth and need to skip over the archaic controversy ( that's based on certain, rather philosophical than practical views ), such as do we live in gnostic ( predictable ) or agnostic ( unpredictable ) Universe .

Let me explain it this way ..

Imagine 'closed physical system' . If you throw a ball ( or a particle ) of certain kinetic energy, in certain direction to such relatively closed system , you're able to predict the balls ( particles ) trajectory, the time they shall keep moving , places where they bump to walls etc etc.

Now to reality ..

we do not live in closed physical system , relatively , again, and rather practically , we seem to live in semi-open physical system of the Solar system ( with certain predictable trajectories and behaviours of celestial bodies , particle constants etc etc ) .

The bigger question for astrophysicist ( he can not answer ) would be , is all Universe finite - therefor, even potentially predictable or is it not .

Since cosmology ever existed , our ancient ancestors could only balance somewhere between the 2 core views .. either the Universe - with its space-time is linear or non-linear, it maybe closed loop of space-time ..with definite though close to infinite measures or it's not .

Practically though ... very few people in history were known to exhibit 'omniscience' and therefor , we maintain the view of life in semi-open physical system .
In simple terms, even if Universe IS predictable we are ( and always will be ) too small to count in everything .

On the other hand .. practically ... we maintain certain level of gnosis based on empirical understanding of life that makes 'predictability' possible ,
and that's where I'm coming in with my view .

Everything as we know it exists in chain of causes and consequences . There's no 'stable state' of matters , change is constant nevertheless whatever we perceive as 'presence' is sequence of the 'past' so also any 'future' is logical outcome of the past and presence .
Is it predictable ? Yes, to some degree , without doubt .

Whatever has form .. was once formless and to the formless state it shall return , we call this 'creation and dissolution' . The binding forces between fields, energies and particles are logical and predictable part of physical Universe .

Whether we call ourselves simple 'observers' or 'scientists' , our knowledge of causes and consequences , states and behaviours of physical fields, elemental forces and so forth remains substantial factor to our ability to see both to the past and to the future .

Even if this sounds very 'remote' from current discussion ... it's by recognising causes and consequences .. how we understand past, presence and future.

Let me give you one more example ... if you watch group of children playing in shallow swimming pool, as an adult standing nearby .. and watch them attentively .. the probability is high that you 'see' what's going on. If someone gets 'accidentally' under water , you can jump in and pull them out .
From the children's view point , the swimming pool is big .. it's a world .. full of unknowns .
In their short hand sense of awareness .. time slips by , without being noticed .. only you as an adult know when there'll be time for dinner . For them there's interactive game going on, adventure, they're creating their own reality .

As an attentive adult .. you see what the game is and where it's heading to.


In comparison to the Universe of course WE ARE the children . We are engaged in the game , in most cases, too much , to sit quietly and observe what's going on.. in the Stars, in the World , in Human society, in Ourselves alone . But if we do, and those who do ..
can see things 'as they are' , without intervening in the process , can see their time , and what's the most probable outcome .

Our biological intelligence can function as 'super-computers' if it is in relatively 'steady state' . Is it able to predict all future or see all past ? No way . But some of it, you could say ..the skeleton of events ... yes , it can .

It also explains the number of mistakes occurring ... and the very impossibility of any 'training' to achieve perfect results as a matter of process .

Reality is process of its own .. from very hard core point of view ..it has but one version and that's we commonly like to call 'the truth' .

Speculations about reality are as numerous as unpredictable as human minds ... exponentially greater in numbers beyond the Reality itself , people engage in irrational thoughts and behaviours all the time but ... compared to the Reality, their irrationality itself displays only minor fluctuation around the Reality Line of Events .

Training of anything - be it RV - is imaginary process of circumferential value .. so its own interaction with Reality Line of Events occurs in points and dots only .



Sorry for the number of dots ...



:angel:

[NancyV]

Thank you for your post NancyV, I both enjoyed it and agree with the bulk of. I hope you will pardon my exception to the following.


Occasional flashes of telepathy, which I often experience, are exciting and fun, but how awful would it be to have FULL telepathy and know exactly what everyone was thinking! People would hate each other much more than they do now and we would all KNOW how petty our thoughts and the thoughts of others actually are at almost all times(1). Lies are a necessity that allow people to more easily work together and they certainly keep many marriages together that would otherwise fail. Telepathy could lead to more fighting, more hate, more wars.

I admit it would be interesting to see how humanity adapts to telepathy and evolves but it might be filled with many bloody battles and a lot of deaths. IF we developed telepathy we would also have to have huge amounts of empathy and ethics to go along with it(2). I don't see that happening but of course anything is possible.

(1) I fail to see how this could be a bad thing. I for one feel it is high time that individuals recognize the pettiness of their thoughts and actions. Whether by comparison or personal inventory, I see nothing lost from an increase in awareness. Any hate that might result is/would-be derived of the individual's (expressing OR receiving) unresolved conflicts and inability to adapt to the previous/current circumstances and adversities.

I freely/fully contest that lies are a necessity for interaction. My experience suggests that this perception is both a rationale and crutch, in place precisely so that individuals interacting in a social framework are neither required nor inspired to refine their strategies, methods, and standards. When there is no requisite demand for emergence and/or pursuit of higher standards of dispositional conduct, only those who are predisposed to pursue higher standards of dispositional conduct will, while the remainder will content themselves with 'meeting expectations'.

I further suggest that any friction that might result of the perceptibility of an individual's thoughts is more to do with the degree of maturity of the individual in whom the friction arises. In particular, I am reminded of the subject of tact. On the one hand, a person who is tactful will naturally gravitate towards expressions that avoid aggravating a situation, circumstances, or individuals. On the other hand, a person who is tactless will potentiate a response in those unable to dismiss the apparent tactlessness. This point (tact/tactless) alludes to the question of offense and consequence; Avalon abounds with examples of either type.

One person can claim that another person's thoughts, words, or ideas are offensive, but the reality is that it is the offended person for whom there is conflict. I'm not about to attempt to excuse unacceptable behavior (violence, etc.) nor allow generalizations to include such, but especially as pertains to thoughts and ideas everyone is entitled to their own disposition and every disposition is obsequent to some form of consequence.

Consequences that occur within/around the individual are the responsibility of the individual, and I theorize that telepathy would help to bring this idea to the forefront of human interaction. I perceive this is what would necessitate the empathy and ethics (BOTH personal and inter-social) that is mentioned at point (2), which I see as the likely/inevitable result of greater telepathic development en masse.

Quite simply - I agree, at the outset people would be horrible to one another in response to greater telepathic/psychic development of humanity, but I counter by saying that people are horrible to one another already precisely because instead of an open, honest, and sincere exchange of ideas and thoughts, we have the filtered, 'socialized', and 'culturally acceptable' standard of behaving/interacting; This does an acceptable job of potentiating a minimum threshold of conducive interaction, but entirely avoids ideas of progression, development, and increased capacity.
Shezbeth, I love that you are optimistic about the potential of humans to adapt to and benefit from telepathy! I used to be more optimistic than I am now. It is not that I have become pessimistic but more so that I think I am accepting it's okay if probably the vast majority of humans are ignorant, fearful, easily offended and generally motivated by desires for power/money/control. These are probably part of our natural survival traits and instincts, so rather difficult to overcome.

If we had telepathy along with merging with another, we would likely not be offended because we would completely understand the other person's entire life and conditioning. But if we could just read their minds or hear their thoughts without understanding and experiencing the person, I'm pretty sure we would dislike much of what we heard.

Of course I hope that you are correct and I am totally wrong! I would like to think that humanity could handle truth without reacting with violence or fear and loathing. Looking at history doesn't give me any encouragement that humans will suddenly become loving, understanding and accepting. Human history, past, present and probably future, is filled with wars, lots of violence and killings and continual battles for power and control. I think this place is a very valuable training ground where the conditions can be very harsh. There is much to be learned from adversity. I don't see any reason why this place SHOULD evolve into a dimension of peace and love when some other dimensions already have that in abundance.

On an individual level one could live a life of peace and love and want to help others attain that state. I personally have enjoyed all aspects of life, many years of peace and many years of chaos and intensity. If I wanted a state of constant bliss and love I sure wouldn't have come here to this earth to participate as a human! We, as Source, created this creation for whatever reason. Maybe we got bored with constant bliss and oneness and wanted the variety of adversity. We sure succeeded as this place is full of good and evil and everything in between.

You may possibly be seeing others in the light of your own reflection. You are obviously a very intelligent, rational and good person. I was shocked for a very long time that others didn't behave in ways I thought were rational, honorable, or kind. I still have to try to not judge others by what I would do, how I would react or by the hopes I have for them to act in some way that I think is good. There are a LOT of very hostile, self serving and nasty people out there....a lot more than most of us would like to think there are.

Many of the nicest people with what look like wonderful motives for their missions in life have turned out to be liars, cheaters, fraudsters and/or control freaks. I am no longer surprised about anyone who leads a life of lies, to others or to himself. Our lies to ourselves may even be the most important ones for ego survival and survival of the persona we think we are while here.

The way I see it is we live within an illusion and the persona we think is who we are is also an illusion. Telepathy can lead to shattering that illusion. Why even have a world or dimension of duality once one begins to merge with other aspects of self and finds out that we are all one? I think part of being here is to forget that we are one and believe we are separate. Telepathy is at least a beginning of realizing that we are not separate.

But however humanity evolves or devolves it has been and will be fun to see and experience it!

[superconsciousness]

The arrival of Superconsciousness will make it impossible for people to hide from themselves...and each other. Once people FINALLY see themselves and each other as they are, the game of duality is essentially over...yes, there will be a transitory period, but the fighting as it witnessed and experienced today will quickly become a thing of the past. I for one am looking forward to the end of lies, deceit, manipulation, gossip and the like...how about you?

[StandingWave]

No doubt this 'event' has drawn attention. It had mine. Obviously it still has!

So - a lot is said and much is conceived and argued, much of it erudite, concise, eloquent, reasonable and logical. Discussion is all very well.

Particularly Jackovesk (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=810385&viewfull=1#post810385)), GuyFox (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=810400&viewfull=1#post810400)) and Gripreaper (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=810515&viewfull=1#post810515)) have touched a resonant chord in me with their contributions to the discussion.

The more we 'lose' ourSelves in the train of concepts arising as a reflection/distortion of What-Is - the more we engage, react and invest on impulse - the easier it is for the immediate sense of Presence to arising experience to be 'overshadowed'. In having our attention snagged and directed, our energies are harnessed to another's purpose.

This is the heart of it.

To whose purpose is our attention hooked?

Are we aware that it is hooked?

Does it matter?

For me, this constitutes the meat of the announcement and the message in what CB has done and is doing. It is a masterful demonstration of the means to gaining the power we willingly give away daily by allowing our attention to be hooked and 'losing' ourSelves in the ensuing 'story'. The future is indeed moulded in such a way. This was all very clearly laid out in the Implications Postings.

They were the announcement in fact!

The ensuing reaction to the revealing of the pay-per-view video was the that unambiguous, concrete proof we were promised!

Well done to Dr. Brown and all those that direct attention! :clap2:

[Finefeather]

Dear Agape
I think there is no need for you to say “I beg to differ in my understanding “ because in fact we seem to agree with each other...well I agree with you...I just never got into the detail which you have done so well...so thank you.

Finefeather :

There is current events and past events...I am not going to deal with future here because there are no fixed or certain future events...even though many probabilities do become true...they are only fixed once they occur. There is also, just to mention it, the fact that moments before we actually do anything we have already thought it. Even a sudden, involuntary movement, which we think is due to our built in nerve system as a protection mechanism is predetermined, by probability...our physical consciousness just cannot realise it.
You went on to state in your post:


Everything as we know it exists in chain of causes and consequences . There's no 'stable state' of matters , change is constant nevertheless whatever we perceive as 'presence' is sequence of the 'past' so also any 'future' is logical outcome of the past and presence .
Is it predictable ? Yes, to some degree , without doubt .
So I think we are saying the same thing and agree with you...prediction of 'future' events is only to some degree successful and that means in reality it is only reality once it occurs...but even then...the outcome will always be a result of a chain of events. I think this is obvious...a pity more do not see this :) What you have described in your post is esoterically known as causal thinking...something we should learn to cultivate more in our minds when dealing with others.

We should not loose sight of an important insight though when writing about cause and effect and that is that the effect is always preceded by thought and therefore our lives are in fact one big chain of events caused by our either right or wrong thinking.

With Love
Ray

[araucaria]

On Sunday I reported how I had been drawing semiotic triangles with reference to Courtney Brown’s announcement in a way reminiscent of remote viewing itself, although under uncontrolled, involuntary conditions – these triangles to be seen of course as 2D representations of pyramids. It took me a while to realize what was going on. Now I want to report on something slighter weirder that took me even longer to understand: the construction of 3D pyramids by yours truly during the period March 6-10 (I kid you not) :)

We were cutting back some trees and I had dozens of branches (mostly maple) to chop up into pellets for mulch. I carted it all off in my wheelbarrow to three locations where I tipped it out for the time being. I noticed how instead of behaving like sand for instance, the oblong pellets, which were sticky with inedible maple syrup, gathered into a more geometrical shape, with straightish sides and something of an apex. The idea of pyramids came to mind, especially on noting how I had made two large piles and a smaller one, out of alignment with the other two :) I actually told my daughter I had turned the garden into the Giza plateau…

I have two comments to make on this. One is about RV. It is clearly only one way of looking at the reality we are truly creating. To me my homemade pyramids are what is real, and those piles of stones in Egypt and how they got there is secondary, and somehow unreal. I think I would say this even if I had been there. Remote viewing with no visualization is more like telepathy than remote viewing per se, and it becomes prediction when it involves an announcement someone is going to make. In this case, prediction is not so much foretelling the future as detecting a present state.

The other comment is about this secondariness. As an experienced pyramid-builder myself, ha ha, I can state that these stories of thousands of slaves toiling for decades, whether it be the mainstream story or the version touted by Courtney Brown (incidentally, I still haven’t actually read/heard what he says) are seriously out of date: that is definitely not the way things are now. Pyramids are dead easy to build when you have a decent wheelbarrow, and they are secondary to the real task – merely tidying stuff out of the way on a very temporary basis, until a use can be found for it elsewhere.

The pyramid as a symbol is often associated with the inverted pyramid. Seen in this light, the mountain would merely be the by-product of some underground excavation. Am I suggesting a trip down this rabbithole instead? Far from it, I am making a molehill out of a mountain and suggesting we should metaphorically put all that stone back where it came from. Or more simply, to quote Daniel Quinn, ‘walk away from the pyramid’.

This is not as easy as it sounds. It involves turning our backs on many things we treasure most. See this post:

Life is about moving on, and the well-nigh indestructible pyramids are the ultimate in jamming on the brakes. ...

[Hervé]

Very interesting exchange all around!

This one got me "thinking":


[...]

... Telepathy is at least a beginning of realizing that we are not separate.

[...]

... since, from my point of view of someone bootstrapping from "down to Earth":


[...]

Personally, rather than a "penetration" I would describe it as an "assumption" or a pervasive infiltration/percolation of the target energy field by one's own perceptic field. The attribute of "Water" signs...

Now, for the "doing it"... well, that too is very complicated and very difficult to achieve (RVers reading this, hold on your horses!) and the reason why N/S/A got all these super Cray computers working full time in order to crack that nut:


One simply needs to DECIDE to BE there and look!


[...]

... there is a pivotal point of contention (ensures couch is there for ready dodging behind) with 180o of one going astray or 120o of both going astray if there's a third party/proposition involved.

The kernel inside the nutshell can be summarized as: "Who decides what?"

When a being is in a good enough shape and "big" enough to encompass this whole universe and perceives it in its wholeness as being "one" with, did the universe decide to be one with one?

See?

There's still a perceiver "YOU" and an "IT" that's being perceived...

That's all.

Hence, from my perspective, that point of contention would be rephrased as: "Telepathy is at least a beginning of realizing that one can establish bridges with (reach to) anything/anyone.

The corollary being that one can also burn bridges with (withdraw from) anything/anyone.

That's sovereignty!


:behindsofa:


However,
Telepathy is at least a beginning of realizing that we are not separate. is workable in the context that we are all under the subconscious/unconscious influence of each other on this living planet.

Now, where's that damn 100th monkey?!

[Operator]

I'm wondering what will happen now. Why are part 2 and 3 so much delayed? Is it because there was so much
negative critique and they're now quickly doing a remake to avoid the same on those parts?
Or perhaps we may never see the planned part 2 and 3 at all.

Not that I'm looking forward with the same anticipation as with part 1 but every event/occurrence tells you
something about the agenda at play ...

[Hervé]

I was wondering why would PA collect, now, over 100,000 views on short notice over this thread?

So, I Giggled "Courtney Brown, announcement" and PA is at the 8th position on first page... right after GLP!

[gripreaper]

I was wondering why would PA collect, now, over 100,000 views on short notice over this thread?

So, I Giggled "Courtney Brown, announcement" and PA is at the 8th position on first page... right after GLP!

AFTER GLP??? GASP!!:gaah:

[Harley]

I'm wondering what will happen now. Why are part 2 and 3 so much delayed? Is it because there was so much
negative critique and they're now quickly doing a remake to avoid the same on those parts?
Or perhaps we may never see the planned part 2 and 3 at all.

Not that I'm looking forward with the same anticipation as with part 1 but every event/occurrence tells you
something about the agenda at play ...

I think it's pretty safe to assume that their was no physical discovery, as he hinted towards heavily in his early messages.

Otherwise he would have definitely released that by now considering the reaction to the first part of his announcement.

[Operator]

I was wondering why would PA collect, now, over 100,000 views on short notice over this thread?

So, I Giggled "Courtney Brown, announcement" and PA is at the 8th position on first page... right after GLP!

AFTER GLP??? GASP!!:gaah:

But do the numbers say something about the quality of the content?

It may say something about the public viewing (what interests them) and where they find it (quality of the posts).
If they are sensationalists did they find it on PA or GLP, were they more serious, same question did they find it on
PA or GLP? Only together with that insight we might have a peek at the 'score'.

[Operator]

I'm wondering what will happen now. Why are part 2 and 3 so much delayed? Is it because there was so much
negative critique and they're now quickly doing a remake to avoid the same on those parts?
Or perhaps we may never see the planned part 2 and 3 at all.

Not that I'm looking forward with the same anticipation as with part 1 but every event/occurrence tells you
something about the agenda at play ...

I think it's pretty safe to assume that their was no physical discovery, as he hinted towards heavily in his early messages.

Otherwise he would have definitely released that by now considering the reaction to the first part of his announcement.

Yes, my understanding too. So what is/was the content of part 2 en 3? Part 1 wasn't what you would
call 'introduction only'.

[Kimberley]

When I googled "Courtney Brown, announcement" PA came in 4th. I have learned that google brings thing up in different orders based on your search record on.

I often search for things on different computers and compare the difference.

[chocolate]

Now that the rush has died down a bit I thought I would post my post which I wrote a while back.

I have a few thoughts on this process of remote viewing...as is presented in the Farsight system...which I would like to share with you all if I may...because IMO there is a very definite logical error which keeps me from having any real confidence in the conclusions which are made by Mr Brown.

First...the term 'Remote Viewing' is not an esoteric term, and it does not come up in any of the 'spiritual' philosophies that I have seen. The best term I can come up with which matches the original intention of remote viewing is mind projection...but lets just carry on a while...

The word 'remote' should tell us something. By remote I would understand it to mean, that what we are attempting to view is remote from our current location, if we are talking relative to our body...and that logically therefore we need to project some part of us to the target in order to gain some information about that target.
So remote viewing is called remote viewing because the intention of this term was and still is to remotely gain access to information, as in spying on the enemy, for example...an explanation which would fit in well with the intention of say a government or the military...from where the word came I believe.

So how could this be achieved?

We can use out of body travel or mind projection...both of these phenomena can fulfil this requirement.

Now...out of body, or astral, travelling, can be an objective experience in the 'astral' or emotional world...but it has a very big potential flaw...because it is the only world in which we can create anything with the slightest unfocused thoughts in our minds...this can easily lead to bringing back wrong information and or illusions which appear as objective to the unsuspecting, ill trained traveller.

I also know that mind can be split and we can project our awareness remotely in the mental world. This world is free from the illusion of the emotional world and we see only what we experience. The mental world has no illusions...no feelings.

It would also be useful now to mention other phenomena like psychometry and telepathy which are overlooked by most and often seen as something which is away from the 'ordinary' person's experience. Little is it known, however, that these 2 phenomena play a major role in our interactions in real life...we just don't pay enough attention to them when they occur.

Now lets look at what events we can view remotely.

There is current events and past events...I am not going to deal with future here because there are no fixed or certain future events...even though many probabilities do become true...they are only fixed once they occur. There is also, just to mention it, the fact that moments before we actually do anything we have already thought it. Even a sudden, involuntary movement, which we think is due to our built in nerve system as a protection mechanism is predetermined, by probability...our physical consciousness just cannot realise it.

So if something exists now in some remote place we can use OB or mind projection to retrieve the information...whereas if the event is in the past and no longer is manifest...it is present only in the immediate memory of a person, who has actually witnessed it...or...in the case of history and no record is present, or person can remember it...is only present in the planetary collective memory...sometimes called akashic records.

So...I would like to propose that what Courtney is presenting as remote viewing is in fact not remote viewing but past event viewing...and here lies the biggest problem, which I can see, to his claims:

If it is the case that Courtney, or anyone for that matter, is the one who initiates and comes up with the target. and then it is given to a person to remote view then this process is just a form of psychometry/telepathy.,,and not real remote viewing....these 'remote viewers' are picking up on the thought form created around the target envelope or item or instruction and most certainly not on the historic event. They will therefore be subjected to the initiators ideas and beliefs and not to the actual event.

Why do I say this?

Because only people known as 'Causal Selves' can access the dimension of planetary memory, and if these remote viewers were Causal Selves they would know it...and not even need the target to guide them...and they would be as accurate as watching a video of the event. Examples of Causal Beings would be akin to a highly advanced Being and they would not be sitting around dishing out insignificant stories of our history which in reality plays no part in what should be our most immediate goal. Of course a lot of us seem to think that this 'great revelation' which we have just been handed is of some significance...when in fact it is just another distraction...and what do we have?... little tit bits of someone else's beliefs in a though form he/she has created in the emotional or astral world...which is the world of illusion.

You just have to gather all the many answers we have been given of the exact same thing. All different and each one claiming to be the real thing or the most likely...what are we ...the ignorant...to say about them...which answer do we each choose?...and why?

So...the entire Farsight process is flawed IMO. These 'remote viewers' are tuning into the original thought form of the target creator and of cause the whole picture that is formed is merely an illusion of the picture in the mind of the person who created the target.

Let me say, however, that despite what I have concluded, to do what these so called remote viewers are doing...if legit...is in fact a special gift and we should not just throw it aside as meaningless. There are many I have known who have this gift of psychometry and I have seen some pretty accurate readings with this talent...and telepathy, although practised by all unconsciously...will one day be part of normal interaction on the various levels which we use for communicating with our friends etc. I am sure there are many here who have experienced telepathy in some way...especially with close friends and relatives.

Now if we could present these 'remote viewers' with a piece of the pyramid it would be much more revealing...if the person is actually psychic and not in collusion with the creator of the target for some reason.

Take care now
Ray


I just came to this thread after I let it flow undisturbed ... chuckle chuckle as one person would say.

Finefeather, you know I hold the deepest respect possible for you! I hope you do!

But I am also one who has some problems dealing with ... strongly established opinions.
Whit that I mean I agree to disagree.

Remote Viewing is a term adopted and infused with meaning by the US/Russian M!l!tari forces after an extensive and quite serious work in the areas of the conscious and sub-conscious mind. I will not go into the details, but for anyone interested, this forum has lots of information available.
The term doesn't come from the esoteric tradition, from 'spirituality' and from any of the like. So trying to explain it with what we are used to work with, is flawed, in my opinion.

As a person who knows the base of it quite well, can use it, and has seen some quite good, not to use stronger words, results, it works, and boy does it really work. Amazingly!
It has (almost) nothing to do with telepathy, and a lot to do with the way this so called universe we inhabit is created.
In the world of real rV, psychics have a real problem...because rV doesn't operate on thinking/imagining/trying etc., but on pure SUBCONSCIOUS perception, if allowed. Not that one can completely block the thinking, but it can be and is done if followed the established protocol. Which is very easy to learn and use.

The real special voodoo people can do it too, but THEN we come to the point of the string theory of the holographic universe... based on choice and effect.
Anyway, I know I am not making much sense probably, but the whole thing is quite a lot to write in one or two posts, and I sense most people (me included sometimes) want the shorter version.

RV works for everybody, but as opening one's eyes only comes when one decided to open one's eyes...

I will stop there, so that I don't bore anyone with my limited English.
If you REALLY want to understand why it works, I can recommend a book or two, and a video or two on the subject.

With that said, I will humbly finish my post, and go back to my version of reality.
( but for those who actually want to know more, a hint --> Tom Campbell. For about 3 videos or ~5 hours of watching time, the idea gets much easier to grasp )

I hope I did not offend anyone, but I always find it difficult to remain silent when presented with very definitively expressed opinions.

As for Master Courtney and his announcement, what he is doing is generating interest, gathering momentum, and probably at the end he will reveal something that we all already know, here and now, but for the majority of the other people, it will be some sort of news. After all, it isn't all that difficult to imagine that he would try to get some new students, and some more income... That is my sensing on the subject.

Peace, and learn rV.
It may become useful for when you loose your keys, or did I mean kids ...
it would also work for missing airplanes... and observing ets and their spaceships, or bases... chuckle, chuckle

:)

[chocolate]

I'm wondering what will happen now. Why are part 2 and 3 so much delayed? Is it because there was so much
negative critique and they're now quickly doing a remake to avoid the same on those parts?
Or perhaps we may never see the planned part 2 and 3 at all.

Not that I'm looking forward with the same anticipation as with part 1 but every event/occurrence tells you
something about the agenda at play ...

Let's assume for the moment that the mission of part one was to touch base with the current opinion and state of being of the public understanding.
After that, and AFTER visiting PA (here), parts 2 and 3 will be postponed ... indefinitely :)

[Agape]

Not everything that we know we're able to explain rationally at the same time ...

:rolleyes:

[Hervé]

[...]

... ( but for those who actually want to know more, a hint --> Tom Campbell. For about 3 videos or ~5 hours of watching time, the idea gets much easier to grasp )

[...]

:)

Out of Thomas Campbell's "Big Toe":



If you have read Flatland, it will be clear that the ordinary residents of a given reality can only observe and understand interactions within their own reality and the interactions of residents of realities that are more highly constrained than their own. Residents of a more constrained reality cannot comprehend a less constrained reality because it lies beyond the limits of their normal perception.

Each dimension of reality has its own rules that define its objective science. Additionally, each dimension of reality experiences the next higher (less limited) dimension as subjective and mystical. Consequently, your mysticism may be another’s science: It depends on how big a picture you live and work in, and the degree to which restraints limit your perception. The perspective from the next higher dimension provides a bigger picture with a more complete understanding. This more comprehensive, complete, and less restrictive knowledge is only accessible to lower dimensional beings (those with a more constrained awareness) through the experience of their individual locally-subjective mind.

Consequently, a mystic could be a scientist from a higher dimension, or a delusional fool hopelessly caught in a distorted web of belief. How do you know which is which? A good question!

[chocolate]

I agree, Amzer Zo, you cannot be sure of anything.
For me that is a beauty.
I don't like restrictions and very fixed opinions.

Tom Campbell has this very informative talk spread into 3 videos, first one here:
T1vYHOPFgcg

He speak about rV and the rest in part 3.

I haven't read his book, though, for I am currently residing in the fast lane...
when I don't read Goethe.

:)

[chocolate]

I wanted to add to what Amzer Zo pointed out in his post.

In order to understand rV and how it operates, we also need to include a somehow good model of reality, otherwise it becomes a matter or trusting one another. But since the idea of being on a forum is not to write a research paper, I can mention that there are different levels of accuracy depending on the complexity of a subject.

For example, if I have lost my key, using rV to locate it probably will work quite well. It is a material object from the currently occupied reality.

If I want to rV a reason for a health problem, it gets a bit more complex and difficult.

And if I want to go 'outside' of this reality, and rV, let's say an entity, et, jinn (chuckle) or similar, than it becomes very difficult to have an accurate result. And in this case how one determines what is accurate? ( as Amzer Zo has cited from MBT).

In conclusion, without any desire to sound too serious about this, the nature of the target would determine to a great extend the result of the rV.

Agape also stated this, in her very gentle way, in post 1321.

I will let the subject here at peace, hoping that I am partially wrong, and Courtney Brown will come up with something at least partially exciting...

[Harley]

Just passing this along ...


Courtney Brown
3:11 PM

This is the appropriate time to add some further explanation to the thrust of the announcement made about our newly released study of the origins of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Leading up to the announcement, I emphasized on this Facebook page (without elaboration) the words, “unambiguous,” “conclusive,” and “proof.” What did that actually mean? Now we can explain, and it is essential that everyone understand how these words relate to the announcement.

I have stated in written and verbal form, on video and in print, so many times it is hard to count, that all remote-viewing data MUST be considered “speculative” until verified by normal physical means. This is even printed at the end of the newly released documentary. If something is “speculative,” then how can it be “unambiguous,” “conclusive,” and “proof?”

To understand this, one needs to remember that there are two forms of remote-viewing data, (1) verifiable, and (2) new. The verifiable data can be confirmed beyond doubt by comparing the remote-viewing data to the actual target for a given project. In the past when working with pen and paper remote-viewing sessions, one had to be accustomed to how the data actually look given the procedures used to record the data to find the verifiable elements convincing. People who were not accustomed to the nature of the procedures might be confused, and thus less convinced. But what has changed now is the way the remote-viewing data are presented by more than one viewer, on video, and in a theatrically interesting manner that can relate to anyone, regardless of whether or not the person knows anything about the intricacies of the methodologies involved. That is a crucially important new element in this study.

What can we say about the verifiable data for this study? In my opinion, any reasonable person would have to conclude that Dick Allgire was describing a pyramid in his data contained in video. Moreover, any reasonable person would conclude that Daz Smith was describing the movement of large stone blocks during the manufacture of what he called “rising structures” as shown in video recordings of his work. Those elements are verifiable. The target indeed was a pyramid, and the target did specify to describe the movement of the largest stone blocks during the pyramid’s construction. Those elements were essential components of the target, and those elements were exactly described in the video records in a manner that anyone can clearly see. Thus, in my view, that part of the project is “unambiguous,” “conclusive,” and it constitutes “proof” that remote viewing was indeed involved in these perceptions that were recorded under totally blind conditions. Therefore, in my opinion, any reasonable person can conclude that remote viewing itself is real, and this claim has passed the test of “proof” for most people.

Of course, there will always be disagreements. 1,000 years from now there will still be people who do not believe that remote viewing is real. But again, in my view, most people can look at these video sessions and decide that the remote-viewing phenomenon itself is unambiguously a real phenomenon.

Now, what about the “new” information shown in the project. Such information involves the extraterrestrial as well as the high technology elements in the data, such as the so-called “Praying Mantis Lady,” the levitation of the stone blocks, etc. Can we similarly say that those elements are “unambiguous” and “conclusive,” and thus constituting “proof?” No. No “new” remote-viewing data can do this until it is verified in some manner using normal physical means of verification. But what we can say is that these “new” elements in the data are intriguing, and they do match the facts on the ground better than many conventional theories relating to the mining and movement of the largest stone blocks. The idea that manual laborers built those pyramids all by themselves with only crude tools is simply not believable in my view. The data for this study, including the extraterrestrial and high technology elements, is more believable. Nonetheless, these new elements remain speculative, regardless of how much they match the facts on the ground. We need further physical evidence of alien intervention and the use of advanced technology before we can move these elements of the data from the “new” to the “verifiable” category.

So some parts of the study are verifiable, and those parts are so uniquely described in the data that they constitute unambiguous and conclusive proof that remote viewing actually exists, in the sense that anyone can see the accuracy of the descriptions with their own eyes without having special training in remote-viewing methodologies. That alone is worth the claim that this is one of the most important announcements ever made in my view. Some will disagree, maybe many. But in my view, this is huge.

And other parts of the study are intriguing but new, and not yet verified. That is the way with all remote-viewing projects. There is always a mix of verifiable parts and new parts. This will never change. The verifiable parts take our breath away. And the new parts make us sit on the edge of our seats, wondering if they too are true beyond doubt. These new parts make us want to know more. And that is exciting.

[Snowflower]

Methinks the man is reading this thread, eh?

[Synchronicity]

Hmm. Is this the rest of what he is planning to say? I don't see anything new...just seeing if I missed if this was the rest of it or an explanation of what he meant when he said the first part?

I don't see where both doing it theatrically makes a difference scientifically, but I guess it's entertaining for some. I can see how what was seen is amazing and thought-provoking, but I don't see that it is the first time more than one person saw similar things and we still can't say anything but concrete examples in the now time frame aren't provable. I'm not trying to be negative...just making an honest observation. If this is the rest of what he was going to announce I think it's not going to convince many who didn't believe already, and for those expecting DNA or something harder for evidence than two men on video getting similar information from not totally clear sources and may turn more off.

Again, I am NOT trying to be disrespectful or negative...just thinking aloud. They did both see the target...not sure how the information came to them, but that doesn't matter a lot to me either way whether it was intuition, RV by protocol, telepathy, group consciousness and expectations. Whatever it was is pretty cool that it shows one more times that humans do indeed have more than five simple senses to use. That doesn't make it totally new or unique since it's been done before in different ways, but there it is again.

Honestly I don't see that this really fits all the lead-up to the "announcement", but I'm personally attributing that to the disconnect I see sometimes between super focused people and their audiences and letting it go. I guess everyone just takes what they wish from the total experience and goes forward as with anything else. :)

[Selene]

Oh dear. Now I feel sorry for the guy.....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/Selenewho/Iletmymindwander-itnevercameback_zpse202bc31.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Selenewho/media/Iletmymindwander-itnevercameback_zpse202bc31.jpg.html)

Cheers,

Selene

[Robin]

Just passing this along ...


Courtney Brown
3:11 PM

What can we say about the verifiable data for this study? In my opinion, any reasonable person would have to conclude that Dick Allgire was describing a pyramid in his data contained in video. Moreover, any reasonable person would conclude that Daz Smith was describing the movement of large stone blocks during the manufacture of what he called “rising structures” as shown in video recordings of his work. Those elements are verifiable. The target indeed was a pyramid, and the target did specify to describe the movement of the largest stone blocks during the pyramid’s construction. Those elements were essential components of the target, and those elements were exactly described in the video records in a manner that anyone can clearly see. Thus, in my view, that part of the project is “unambiguous,” “conclusive,” and it constitutes “proof” that remote viewing was indeed involved in these perceptions that were recorded under totally blind conditions. Therefore, in my opinion, any reasonable person can conclude that remote viewing itself is real, and this claim has passed the test of “proof” for most people.


I sympathize with Courtney, I really do.

However, I don't think that it is reasonable to make such substantial claims of having irrefutable proof based on only two sets of data (two remote viewers). He of course explains that this is due to a lack of professional remote viewers, which I understand, but one must not make large claims if there is a small amount of data.

The other reason why I can see people would criticize this particular project and its validity, is the fact that the project entailed analyzing such a HUGE topic in the history of humanity. They already completed a remote viewing project on Atlantis, which is also a HUGE topic in the history of humanity.

I may have to consider a small amount of bias for this exact reason. If I were one of the two remote viewers who undertook this project, and if I knew Courtney well enough to be able to predict his behavior, and if I was aware of past projects that the Farsight Institute undertook (including Atlantis), I would probably take a biased guess--either consciously or sub-consciously--that the Great Pyramid of Giza is something Courtney is interested in researching.

The two remote viewers undoubedtly entertained the thought--either before the project or when Courtney gave them the clue--that the pyramid may be the topic. Once again, it could also be subconscious, but that still means that there is a potential for bias in this study.

If, let's say, five remote viewers undertook this project, and all of them viewed the pyrmaid correctly...I would be more inclined to agree with Courtney that this is irrefutable proof of the validity of remote viewing. But seeing how he only had a sample size of two remote viewers, I must have a position of open-mindedness for the potential of remote viewing for future studies, but also stand firm that this particular study has too many faulty variables and cannot be deemed conclusive.

But my heart still goes out to him, as I sincerely believe that remote viewing is possible, and his other projects might be more valid. But I just cannot say that this data is valid enough to make such substantial claims.

[Hervé]

Me think this guy is walking beside his shoes or else he's gone off his trolleys...

Wait...

It's probably both! ... along with pulling the blankets all to himself!

I was expecting something scientific with incontrovertible proofs à la Ingo Swann with his Jupiter (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=804158&viewfull=1#post804158) and Moon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68916-Don-t-go-into-the-light-Discussion-thread&p=803362&viewfull=1#post803362) visits. Actually, it's with those experiments (the "drivels" I posted earlier somewhere) that the turning point for humanity took place. Now, we only need to place a FOIA on their security records with those ETs who spotted him on the Moon for the date and time his body was doodling and talking on Earth.

Because it's not difficult to set up a controlled experiment whereby both remote viewer(s) and remote-viewed(s) can be monitored synchronously and simultaneously...

Because:



-------

[...] Note that none of the other orbs show any movement at all.

I regard this as conclusive evidence that this is not a speck of dust or a pollen particle blowing in the wind. It's an important photo, which seems to show self-determined movement.

http://projectavalon.net/moving_orb_enlarged.jpg

Check this from Simon Parkes:


Hi,
Spot On !
The orbs are in fact not all one and the same ! Different groups use them, some orbs from different groups do the same thing. The word sentinel means a lot. Orbs can look like energy balls, but not to get confused with small ball-like orbs of light -- which range from a ping pong ball to a grapefruit -- these are RV's coming into this dimension. the orbs I think you are writing about are larger, many crop circles are made by them.
Simon.

... or how Ingo Swann got spotted while checking out the "dark" side of the Moon...

... and:


the proof lies in the report on the Japanese experiments of the most perfectly darkened room ever, in all radiative ways..and then remote viewed by psychics to read a placard on one wall.

when the remote viewers were in this test room, the sensors would take in an increased average of 15,000 photons of light.

I believe it was David Wilcox, in his new book and lecture, that presented this corroborative evidence.

So, the aether sonar ping from the pulsed xenon gas of the flash.... and thus the emitted return light of the local flow through (both ways) wormholes.

So, what's so difficult about setting up a scientifically controlled experiment along these lines? Especially by someone with "scientific" (title approved: Ph. D.) credence?

... WTF!?!


:rant:


Edit: I Saw Selene's post after posting the above and, myaoowww, do I ever agree! Now I am cleaning my screen...

[Synchronicity]

Oh dear. Now I feel sorry for the guy.....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/Selenewho/Iletmymindwander-itnevercameback_zpse202bc31.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Selenewho/media/Iletmymindwander-itnevercameback_zpse202bc31.jpg.html)

Cheers,

Selene

Ohh, that has been my whole last two weeks! (maybe way longer)

[Harley]

I didn't let my mind wander . . .

And I still got screwed!

[Synchronicity]

I don't see that it is that difficult to find a way to set something up, Amzer. And I never heard of that one, Carmody! That sounds intriguing!!!

I'm still trying to figure out the whole year idea...oh well.

I agree with you, Sam. It's possible to be biased with a known person picking targets, and even without bias it's easy to pick up from the person what s/he wants you to see or thinks is there. Sigh...so many things to consider, and I hope that this all doesn't make the whole idea seem crazier to some than it did before the whole situation.

[Brakeman]

Dr. Brown does have a history of sensationalizing odd bits of information for later publicity sake.

Does anyone recall the Hale-Bopp Comet in the mid-nineties?

Dr. Brown went to Art Bell with a photo he received allegedly portraying a large spacecraft following amidst the tail of the Hale-Bopp Comet.

Of course, he told Mr. Bell to hold off on sharing the image until the astronomer he received it from held a press conference in the coming months.

Mr. Bell became tired of waiting and released the picture about two months later, when it was easily recognized as doctored work of an existing image from the University of Hawaii made public some time back.

Dr. Brown needs to validate his relevance from time to time, I suppose.

This recent publicity who-knows-what merely being a recent incident of that.

[gripreaper]

The double blind nature of the experiment could be influenced by bias and the bias may be coming from a speculative area unknown to the controlling influence who sets up the coordinates and relative to the frequencies and the timelines which the viewers are connecting with through the context of the subconscious minds filters which could cause a relative image to be obtuse from the normalcy bias of the controlled images.

[Operator]

And then ... there is coffee !!

I mean project coffee: http://www.rvcommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9511

Project Coffee - Homo sapiens sapiens / origin

Including reference to mister George Lucas' film:
http://www.rvcommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9511&start=93

Fascinating thread on that forum ... I see some material that is in common with Courtney's implication postings.
While not all implication postings make sense yet after seeing only part 1.

That project ran from Aug 31, 2012 till Feb 13, 2013 ...

[noxon medem]

Does a picture still say more than a thousand words .?.

25303

&

25302

:- )

[GuyFox]

BROWN: Exaggerated Importance... but maybe has not said enough about the Mars connection ?

Courtney Brown's latest comments:
He gives us a clearer idea of how we would LIKE us to look at his March-15th Announcement Video.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/super-slovak/GizaPyramids.jpg
Giza Pyramids - on Earth

Courtney Brown
3:11 PM
"This is the appropriate time to add some further explanation to the thrust of the announcement made about our newly released study of the origins of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Leading up to the announcement, I emphasized on this Facebook page (without elaboration) the words, “unambiguous,” “conclusive,” and “proof.” What did that actually mean? Now we can explain, and it is essential that everyone understand how these words relate to the announcement.

I have stated in written and verbal form, on video and in print, so many times it is hard to count, that all remote-viewing data MUST be considered “speculative” until verified by normal physical means. This is even printed at the end of the newly released documentary. If something is “speculative,” then how can it be “unambiguous,” “conclusive,” and “proof?”

To understand this, one needs to remember that there are two forms of remote-viewing data, (1) verifiable, and (2) new.

The verifiable data can be confirmed beyond doubt by comparing the remote-viewing data to the actual target for a given project. In the past when working with pen and paper remote-viewing sessions, one had to be accustomed to how the data actually look given the procedures used to record the data to find the verifiable elements convincing. People who were not accustomed to the nature of the procedures might be confused, and thus less convinced. But what has changed now is the way the remote-viewing data are presented by more than one viewer, on video, and in a theatrically interesting manner that can relate to anyone, regardless of whether or not the person knows anything about the intricacies of the methodologies involved. That is a crucially important new element in this study.

What can we say about the verifiable data for this study? In my opinion, any reasonable person would have to conclude that Dick Allgire was describing a pyramid in his data contained in video. Moreover, any reasonable person would conclude that Daz Smith was describing the movement of large stone blocks during the manufacture of what he called “rising structures” as shown in video recordings of his work. Those elements are verifiable. The target indeed was a pyramid, and the target did specify to describe the movement of the largest stone blocks during the pyramid’s construction. Those elements were essential components of the target, and those elements were exactly described in the video records in a manner that anyone can clearly see. Thus, in my view, that part of the project is “unambiguous,” “conclusive,” and it constitutes “proof” that remote viewing was indeed involved in these perceptions that were recorded under totally blind conditions. Therefore, in my opinion, any reasonable person can conclude that remote viewing itself is real, and this claim has passed the test of “proof” for most people.

Of course, there will always be disagreements. 1,000 years from now there will still be people who do not believe that remote viewing is real. But again, in my view, most people can look at these video sessions and decide that the remote-viewing phenomenon itself is unambiguously a real phenomenon.

Now, what about the “new” information shown in the project. Such information involves the extraterrestrial as well as the high technology elements in the data, such as the so-called “Praying Mantis Lady,” the levitation of the stone blocks, etc. Can we similarly say that those elements are “unambiguous” and “conclusive,” and thus constituting “proof?” No.

No “new” remote-viewing data can do this until it is verified in some manner using normal physical means of verification. But what we can say is that these “new” elements in the data are intriguing, and they do match the facts on the ground better than many conventional theories relating to the mining and movement of the largest stone blocks. The idea that manual laborers built those pyramids all by themselves with only crude tools is simply not believable in my view. The data for this study, including the extraterrestrial and high technology elements, is more believable. Nonetheless, these new elements remain speculative, regardless of how much they match the facts on the ground. We need further physical evidence of alien intervention and the use of advanced technology before we can move these elements of the data from the “new” to the “verifiable” category.

So some parts of the study are verifiable, and those parts are so uniquely described in the data that they constitute unambiguous and conclusive proof that remote viewing actually exists, in the sense that anyone can see the accuracy of the descriptions with their own eyes without having special training in remote-viewing methodologies. That alone is worth the claim that this is one of the most important announcements ever made in my view. Some will disagree, maybe many. But in my view, this is huge.

And other parts of the study are intriguing but new, and not yet verified. That is the way with all remote-viewing projects. There is always a mix of verifiable parts and new parts. This will never change. The verifiable parts take our breath away. And the new parts make us sit on the edge of our seats, wondering if they too are true beyond doubt. These new parts make us want to know more. And that is exciting."

In other words...
The VIDEO shows RV Targets were hit in an amazing fashion.
If we accept that these targets were indeed "completely blind", then it is a pretty amazing show of RV expertise - but hardly the first good clear Targeting ever seen.

(BTW, as someone has pointed out, the Remote Viewers might have arrived at their targets through some sort of telepathic process. The Remote Viewers might have simply "read the minds" of those providing the targets, and then let their imaginations run wild. Perhaps Dr Brown should say more about how the "blindness" was achieved and maintained. He may have done that elsewhere.)

As for "ET elements", I do not see any clear evidence for that in THIS video - perhaps it is more clear in the Video that he is offering for sale.
Has anyone seen it yet?

For me, the most clear evidence of an ET element is in other Videos (and RV data), COMBINED with this one.

Elsewhere, Brown and others have talked about pyramids on Mars, that contain the SAME TECHNOLOGY. How is this possible? - Unless there was an interplanetary society that was building pyramids on both planets.

Here is some evidence I found for pyramids of Mars:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/super-slovak/195a.jpg : http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/super-slovak/1220875376_cydonia.jpg

Pyramid, and objects, on Mars, in Cydonia area ... At right, are the three "pyramids" in the "city" area
/ source: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread389018/pg1

The pyramids seem to be more than just a trick of lighting, as shown in this video:

= qBx-qKVDFhQ =

There has also been a documentary on the subject, made by David Childers:

Ancient Pyramids and Cities Found on the Moon and Mars, Documentary
> Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94C4kEi_sxo

/ watching it now - comments may follow /

( more coming, as I pull this argument together, including "something special" - will take time )

Is there any interest in this Mars Connection here?
I raised it before in a very short posting, and there was no response.
Shall I share my research here, as I pull it together - or maybe start a new thread?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Snippet from Courtneys text as posted by Harley,


Of course, there will always be disagreements. 1,000 years from now there will still be people who do not believe that remote viewing is real. But again, in my view, most people can look at these video sessions and decide that the remote-viewing phenomenon itself is unambiguously a real phenomenon.


Stop playing this game dear man, srsly, where you said "......", you should have said, "most people can look at these video sessions and decide that the remote viewing phenomenon appears to be a man talking to himself drawing random shapes on a whiteboard which in its self means nothing and it has been caught on tape, a man drawing shapes on a whiteboard is not proof of the phenomenon at all, it only is proof that a video has been made of a man drawing"

Don't get me wrong here, I have no issues with the phenomenon of remote viewing its self, non, I however can not join the remote viewer in question in his minds eye for personal verification of what he has seen or to share that experience at the same time, that makes everything he says, sees, draws a subjective story and anecdotal to me, and not unambiguous proof of authenticity to me as a second or third party, I saw men talking to themselves, drawing stick objects, on a white board, on video, other then that it meant nothing to me, not shocking, not proof of anything, let alone proof of the phenomenon.

Again, the phenomenon its self I have no issues with, "proving its validity and accuracy to others on video" is a completely different matter, since the remote viewer and the viewer of the video are NOT experiencing the same thing from the same perspective.


The verifiable parts take our breath away. And the new parts make us sit on the edge of our seats, wondering if they too are true beyond doubt.


So, next part of the announcement please, maybe it will change my mind, but what I have seen so far had very little substance.

[araucaria]

We have seen videos of channellers spouting off extremely knowledgeably in the words of the Archangel Michael or whoever. No one disputes that they are saying things that they would not normally say, or that the words are coming from somewhere. To put it another way: the existence of channelling as a phenomenon is beyond doubt. But the unanswered question is always: where from?

As Courtney Brown’s announcement approached, I was getting 2D triangles and 3D pyramids as I have posted. Was this remote viewing? Definitely not. Was it some kind of channelling? Not in the sense of communication with a non-physical entity, although the physicality of Courtney Brown is completely out of my range, in a sense that the ephemeral pyramids of twigs in my garden were not. I’d stick to calling it telepathy, as a more neutral term.

Substitute ‘remote view’ for ‘channel’ in my first paragraph above. The existence of remote viewing as a phenomenon is beyond doubt. But the unanswered question is always: where from? This is the sticking point that Courtney Brown does not address. He may be scientific about what he does, but he fails to touch on the ultimate physical reality behind the phenomenon. The point being that science never does either. The particles that it creates out of a wave function are no more than the illusion that keeps science going.


these new elements remain speculative, regardless of how much they match the facts on the ground. We need further physical evidence of alien intervention and the use of advanced technology before we can move these elements of the data from the “new” to the “verifiable” category. So some parts of the study are verifiable…

Sure, Courtney is being honest that no “proof” of his substantial claim regarding the pyramids is available at this time. But he extrapolates from the ‘verifiable’ ‘parts of the study’ – i.e. the existence of RV, (whatever it may be) – to suggest that such verifiability also exists for the rest, that the proof is somewhere out there and just needs to be produced. I would disagree.

Hence why would Courtney, like many others, be interested in the pyramids in the first place? Maybe this is why: they are the largest, heaviest particle of physicality that we have to hand – which is why they have been largely unmovable for as long as we can remember. They thus represent the last word in what science is about. This is their commonality with gold (alchemy) and uranium/plutonium (nuclear physics): the heaviest of metals and among the heaviest of any elements. We/science cling on in a last-ditch effort to these densest forms of matter. However, just as the pyramids spawned pyramidology, i.e. the ultimate anti-science of the unexplainable, so nuclear energy is turning out to be the ultimate anti-science of the destruction of matter.

In other words, Courtney Brown is fighting a rearguard action trying to bolt the stable door on a horse he calls Science that has already bolted. This is not where science and spirituality meet.

[Finefeather]

But I am also one who has some problems dealing with ... strongly established opinions.

chocolate I personally do not have any problem with strong opinions from anyone as long as we are all allowed to have our opinion.
We each gauge the level of another's opinion based on the distance it is from our own opinion.
We can see this clearly from the posts on this thread with regards to the acceptance or rejection of Courtney Browns announcement.
With love
Ray

[sheme]

Something uplifting here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BShBXdlStWU

[Synchronicity]

But I am also one who has some problems dealing with ... strongly established opinions.

chocolate I personally do not have any problem with strong opinions from anyone as long as we are all allowed to have our opinion.
We each gauge the level of another's opinion based on the distance it is from our own opinion.
We can see this clearly from the posts on this thread with regards to the acceptance or rejection of Courtney Browns announcement.
With love
Ray

Absolutely! We all get to each moment a different way and if we all thought exactly the same way it would be creepy and boring. It's all in the respect for other views, I would say :)

[Olam]

I am amazed to see all the left brained activity still here on this thread.
Folks, have a stroll into a park or wooden area and then let your right brain show you the answers.
You know what the truth is and you won't find it in 95% of the replies here.

Weather you like it or not, there is a war on your consciousness played right now and its important to remember that we all are participants.
Sorry for this, its just me handing you a flower so you can smell divinity amidst the chaos.

[Hervé]

Oh dear... psychobabble psyops (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&p=652209&viewfull=1#post652209) are a never-ending-story in discernment:


Despite what you've been told, you aren't 'left-brained' or 'right-brained' (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/16/left-right-brain-distinction-myth)

The brain is more complex than corporate team-building exercises suggest, but the myth is unlikely to die anytime soon

Amy Novotney (http://www.theguardian.com/profile/amy-novotney)
theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/),
Saturday 16 November 2013 12.30 GMT


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/11/16/1289912198718/A-human-brain-006.jpg

A new two-year study found no evidence that participants had a stronger left or right-sided brain network. Photograph: Bbs United/Getty Images


From self-help (http://www.amazon.com/Left-Brain-Right-Whole-Thinking-ebook/dp/B00E66Q6CA/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384399894&sr=1-6&keywords=left+brain+thinking) and business success books (http://www.amazon.com/Right-Brain-Business-Plan-Jennifer-Lee-ebook/dp/B004O4D1X6/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384399652&sr=1-4&keywords=right-brain+left-brain+thinking) to job applications (http://education.yahoo.net/articles/careers_by_brain_type.htm) and smartphone apps (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.movisol.hemisferios&hl=en), the theory that the different halves of the human brain govern different skills and personality traits is a popular one. No doubt at some point in your life you've been schooled on "left-brained" and "right-brained" thinking – that people who use the right side of their brains most are more creative, spontaneous and subjective, while those who tap the left side more are more logical, detail-oriented and analytical.
Too bad it's not true.

In a new two-year study published in the journal Plos One (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%253Adoi%252F10.1371%252Fjournal.pone.0071275), University of Utah neuroscientists scanned the brains of more than 1,000 people, ages 7 to 29, while they were lying quietly or reading, measuring their functional lateralization – the specific mental processes taking place on each side of the brain. They broke the brain into 7,000 regions, and while they did uncover patterns for why a brain connection might be strongly left or right-lateralized, they found no evidence that the study participants had a stronger left or right-sided brain network.

Jeff Anderson (http://neuroscience.med.utah.edu/Faculty/Anderson.html), the study's lead author and a professor of neuroradiology at the University of Utah says:
It's absolutely true that some brain functions occur in one or the other side of the brain, language tends to be on the left, attention more on the right.
But the brain isn't as clear-cut as the myth makes it out to be. For example, the right hemisphere is involved in processing some aspects of language, such as intonation and emphasis.

How, then, did the left-brained/right-brained theory take root? Experts suggest the myth dates back to the 1800s, when scientists discovered that an injury to one side of the brain caused a loss of specific abilities. The concept gained ground in the 1960s based on Nobel-prize-winning (http://www.nobelprize.org/educational/medicine/split-brain/background.html) "split-brain" work by neuropsychologists Robert Sperry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Wolcott_Sperry), and Michael Gazzaniga (http://www.psych.ucsb.edu/people/faculty/gazzaniga). The researchers conducted studies with patients who had undergone surgery to cut the corpus callosum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_callosum) – the band of neural fibers that connect the hemispheres – as a last-resort treatment for epilepsy. They discovered that when the two sides of the brain weren't able to communicate with each other, they responded differently to stimuli, indicating that the hemispheres have different functions.

Both of these bodies of research tout findings related to function; it was popular psychology (http://www.theguardian.com/science/psychology) enthusiasts who undoubtedly took this work a step further and pegged personality types to brain hemispheres.

According to Anderson:
The neuroscience (http://www.theguardian.com/science/neuroscience) community has never accepted the idea of 'left-dominant' or 'right-dominant' personality types. Lesion studies don't support it, and the truth is that it would be highly inefficient for one half of the brain to consistently be more active than the other.
Yet, despite Anderson's work and other studies (http://scan.oxfordjournals.org/content/8/4/475.abstract?sid=b99d03b9-38cc-4858-98e3-49f54244898d) that continue to disprove the idea that personality type is related to one or the other side of the brain being stronger, my guess is that the left-brained/right-brained vernacular isn't going away anytime soon. Human society is built around categories, classifications and generalizations, and there's something seductively simple about labeling yourself and others as either a logical left-brainer or a free-spirited right brainer.

Similar to the Myers-Briggs test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator) – another widely used personality test with limited scientific evidence – the left-brained/right-brained thinker theory provides us with an explanation for why we are the way we are, and offers insights into where we fit into the world. It's also a great conversation starter – and if used as a novelty, or a way to strengthen the "weaker half" of your brain, the myth is pretty harmless.

The problems start, however, when the left-brained/right-brained myth becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. When your 12-year-old fills out an online personality test that pegs her as a "right-brainer" and she decides to skip her math homework – because the test told her she isn't good with numbers – the persistence of this false dichotomy starts to become destructive. The same goes for the unemployed worker who forgoes applying for their dream job because the job description calls for creativity skills they think they may not have.

What research has yet to refute is the fact that the brain is remarkably malleable, even into late adulthood. It has an amazing ability to reorganize itself by forming new connections between brain cells, allowing us to continually learn new things and modify our behavior. Let's not underestimate our potential by allowing a simplistic myth to obscure the complexity of how our brains really work.


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I found it interesting that the author of the above article, although making a few steps in the right direction, stops short of considering the obvious: what in the world would entice a brain -- the so-called, according to some, "seat" of all thoughts, emotions, behaviours, etc (hence, it should be pleased with itself)... you know, the "It's all in your DNA!" kind of people -- to "re-wire"? ... I mean, birds haven't rewired their brains to remodel their nests according to some idea on aesthetics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics)...

[Olam]

Well there you go, did you use your intuition with this or did you just read the thing and decided that it was so?
I can tell you myself, I get my answers alot during long walks, just because at that very moment, I let my spirit bubble up to the surface and I get my answers. Then again, I respect your opinion as it is valid for you and so it is your truth and that has to be respected.

[GuyFox]

I am amazed to see all the left brained activity still here on this thread.
Folks, have a stroll into a park or wooden area and then let your right brain show you the answers.
You know what the truth is and you won't find it in 95% of the replies here.

Weather you like it or not, there is a war on your consciousness played right now and its important to remember that we all are participants.
Sorry for this, its just me handing you a flower so you can smell divinity amidst the chaos.

Interesting.
That is more or less what Dr Richard Alan Miller is saying in this new conversation:

"We know the answer... We know what to do."
"If we are doing the right thing, we can live in The Flow..."

Dr RAM In Depth#3: Living in the Flow, Connecting Dots - Mar. 18, 2014

= aQ2ULQxyzWI =

Another fascinating chat with Dr Richard Alan Miller

[Hervé]

Well there you go, did you use your intuition with this or did you just read the thing and decided that it was so?
I can tell you myself, I get my answers alot during long walks, just because at that very moment, I let my spirit bubble up to the surface and I get my answers. Then again, I respect your opinion as it is valid for you and so it is your truth and that has to be respected.

Did you learn about the "Right/Left brain" scam in your strolls?

[Olam]

No one holds all of the truth, except our own.
Over the years and still today in some way, I read all there is to read that I think deserves my attention, but what has changed from previous years is that now I ask myself via spirit to se how the info compares to what I know inside myself.
So I guess I expressed myself in a rather clumbsy way, as I don't condone anyone here or what people think, I am just trying to express to people that the truth is inside you and not on what anybody else sais.
Yes, it took me a while to develop my very own modality to the truth and before getting there, I would look at all that is written to try and find it.
All that has ever been written is known by everyone at some level.
These days, there ar elots of people and entities that work very hard to steer people off in wrong directions, this is the war I am talking about.
The best way to win this war is to not participate, or rather to look inside for the truth instead of quoting any article, however detailed and "authentic" it seems to be.
It speaks alot to me how you reacted to my original post, think about it, how you were offended by what I wrote...
If you can put ego aside and let your spirit come forward, I think at least your reaction would be different.
I don't think you are wrong, or bad or whatever, I respect your opinion,
I am just trying to show a different way of perception.

More and more now, we need to go inside, and at that point if it does reflect any complicated article, well then thats great, it is, but please don't
push me aside with what I say just because it does not resonate with what you learned.
I am not saying I own the truth, I just wanted to express and shine a light on finding truth within and not on what people say.
Again, don't beleive me!....go inside and remember.

[McMaster]

I'm going little offtopic here and want to ask a question.
Has any whistleblower, researcher with so called inside knowledge/source, remote viewer, channeler or anyone else ever provided any real evidence other that their words that something they say is real? And I'm including here all of these Ra things, CB's RV's, reptilians, mantis aliens, solar warden stuff, looking glasses, star gates and other portals, Mars colonies etc. etc. I have never seen any proof other than words.

And I can't understand how people can say, that something "must be true" or "atleast there must be something in this" just from the fact, that someones story contains same elements than someone elses story. I remember reading along those lines in this thread too. How does that make a story true? I could make up a story that contains elements from every single conspiracy theory around, but it still doesn't make it true.

Also how do we know that CB's viewers didn't know beforehand that they are now conducting a "research" about pyramids and then make up stuff to fit? We have three mans word and some people are going bananas over it.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in UFOs, but not because of some psychichs or whistleblowers. I also think that our conciousness is most likely immortal and we are all connected to some level, but again all this implanting memories or thoughts or altering peoples behavior thru HAARP, I mean, again all we have is the words of the experiencer. How do we know that all of that is not caused by mental illness or something similar? And I'm not trying to insult anyone or belittle anyones beliefs but I would like to know how people who believe all this stuff rationalize this fact of lack of evidence to themselves? How does it differ from a regular people who are in to mainstream religions? They also claim supernatural experiences and meetings with Jesus or God.

[Harley]

My apologies for being so late with this. I've been busy today.

Courtney Brown
6:26 PM

Hi Everyone. I want to share the essence of some of the communications that I have been receiving. In one communication, the person said that the Giza Pyramid Project was interesting, but he was sure I was going to announcement something that is more current. In another communication, the person asked when I am going to announcement the identities of the Illuminati. Yet another said he was sure I was holding back on when Nibiru would enter crash into Earth. And yet another said that she was certain I was going to say what happened to the missing airliner. And on it goes.

Friends, the Giza Pyramid project is the biggest thing we have ever done. It is huge. There is nothing bigger than that. You may not agree, but that project really is amazing, and I fully believe that in the future people will say that this project was a turning point for our planet.

With this said, let me outline what I hoped would be the second and third parts of the major announcement that occurred last Saturday. The announcement of that project was amazing in my view. It took the entire remote-viewing field nearly two decades in order to do what we did. But the announcement of the Giza Pyramid results does not tell us what we should do in the future to make this planet a better place. That is, it is nice as a diagnostic, but not much as a prescriptive. Thus, the second part of the announcement was to focus on what happens next. Given the ability to show remote viewing on video in a theatrically interesting manner using stellar viewers, the issue of whether or not remote viewing actually exists can be settled for many, and we can start talking about how to integrate this into our daily lives. So the next part was to be a detailed outline of a campaign to start this. It involved explanations of public petitions, large number appeals t university administrators to encourage classes dealing with these forbidden topics, and even staged events that would be covered by the local news, such as motorcycle rallies and even skywriting over urban areas by participating pilots.

The third part of the major announcement was to explain the matter of symbolism. People need symbols to project a unified message, and we have been developing such a symbol, and we wanted to explain it.

The second and third parts of the major announcement will come in their own time. But for now, too many people seem to be thinking that we are planning to announce some current day revelation that they find in the news. We need to let that settle before going on to the second and third parts of our plan. Things are too important for our message to be lost.

We will find a way soon to move to the next phase of this plan.

[Harley]

Courtney Brown
11:10 PM

Here is a radio interview that I just did with Mike Vara and Peter Kling on Late Night in the Midlands. My part begins after the 34 minute mark.

World Watchers 03-19-2014
http://www.spreaker.com/user/latenightinthemidlands/world-watchers-03-19-2014

Guest Courtney Brown Topic Remote Viewing World Watchers with host Peter Kling & Michael Vara. and together we will expose the world one truth at a time. Michael Vara brings a common sense approach with a tell it like it is attitude, Michael gives his opinions and his thoughts through his experience...

[araucaria]

My apologies for being so late with this. I've been busy today.

Courtney Brown
6:26 PM

Hi Everyone. I want to share the essence of some of the communications that I have been receiving. In one communication, the person said that the Giza Pyramid Project was interesting, but he was sure I was going to announcement something that is more current. In another communication, the person asked when I am going to announcement the identities of the Illuminati. Yet another said he was sure I was holding back on when Nibiru would enter crash into Earth. And yet another said that she was certain I was going to say what happened to the missing airliner. And on it goes.

Friends, the Giza Pyramid project is the biggest thing we have ever done. It is huge. There is nothing bigger than that. You may not agree, but that project really is amazing, and I fully believe that in the future people will say that this project was a turning point for our planet.

With this said, let me outline what I hoped would be the second and third parts of the major announcement that occurred last Saturday. The announcement of that project was amazing in my view. It took the entire remote-viewing field nearly two decades in order to do what we did. But the announcement of the Giza Pyramid results does not tell us what we should do in the future to make this planet a better place. That is, it is nice as a diagnostic, but not much as a prescriptive. Thus, the second part of the announcement was to focus on what happens next. Given the ability to show remote viewing on video in a theatrically interesting manner using stellar viewers, the issue of whether or not remote viewing actually exists can be settled for many, and we can start talking about how to integrate this into our daily lives. So the next part was to be a detailed outline of a campaign to start this. It involved explanations of public petitions, large number appeals t university administrators to encourage classes dealing with these forbidden topics, and even staged events that would be covered by the local news, such as motorcycle rallies and even skywriting over urban areas by participating pilots.

The third part of the major announcement was to explain the matter of symbolism. People need symbols to project a unified message, and we have been developing such a symbol, and we wanted to explain it.

The second and third parts of the major announcement will come in their own time. But for now, too many people seem to be thinking that we are planning to announce some current day revelation that they find in the news. We need to let that settle before going on to the second and third parts of our plan. Things are too important for our message to be lost.

We will find a way soon to move to the next phase of this plan.
Thanks Harley. This thread has been an interesting open-minded exploration of Courtney Brown's remote viewing, but I for one will probably not have anything further to say on the next phases of his plan.

[Operator]

...
We need to let that settle before going on to the second and third parts of our plan. Things are too important for our message to be lost.

We will find a way soon to move to the next phase of this plan.

Why is he stalling ? ... I don't see any reason.
Oh well, it's probably going to be more of the same anyway.

[superconsciousness]

Bills are still due every month, mountains of debt continue to pile up, conflict between East and West continues to escalate, so releasing a video on RVing didn't fix what's broke.

[chocolate]

The best aspect of having a subconscious knowledge is that it is not ruled by what some still believe to be your 'left' brain, or your 'right ' brain (thank you, friend Amzer Zo, on point as always).

If anything, rV operates on what you had previously thought to be your 'right' brain.

:)

See, how good it feels to not have a very fixed opinion...

But you should'n believe anything I say, (or think), I am just a very young individual.

I have long ago stopped being interested in the disclosure of Courtney, that 'agent provocateur' of theirs... But I do still read my materials on rV, which I made while studying it some time ago, and which I was happy to discover not in the garbage bin ( I sometimes clean a lot ), but securely tucked in a dark corner of the house.

My point... learn to use your own mind... for the benefit of all.

:)

[Arc]

... of Courtney, that 'agent provocateur' of theirs...


I agree with a couple of your points. But, what leads you to believe that he is suddenly an 'agent provocateur'?

I think it is fair to criticize the information release process, the content of the information, perhaps RV or CB's RV methodology, but that part seems like you wandered off the path of reasonable criticism into an ad hominem attack.

Do you find any evidence of that? That was certainly not my impression. At worst, I would just say CB is a quirky character who got everyones hopes up too much for something he is more excited about than most people.

[Johnny]

Remote influence, maybe the next subject ???

Here is an interesting video imo about remote viewing AND remote influence:

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And another video with Uri Geller where he mention controlled remote influence too:

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Cheers Johnny

[Robin]

Courtney Brown
11:10 PM

Here is a radio interview that I just did with Mike Vara and Peter Kling on Late Night in the Midlands. My part begins after the 34 minute mark.

World Watchers 03-19-2014
http://www.spreaker.com/user/latenightinthemidlands/world-watchers-03-19-2014

Guest Courtney Brown Topic Remote Viewing World Watchers with host Peter Kling & Michael Vara. and together we will expose the world one truth at a time. Michael Vara brings a common sense approach with a tell it like it is attitude, Michael gives his opinions and his thoughts through his experience...

:bump:

I would encourage everybody who has the time to listen to this interview.

I have taken a neutral standpoint on this announcement, and remain hopeful that there is something positive to be gleaned from Courtney's announcement. After listening to this interview, and hearing Courtney describe his side of the story, I sympathize with him even more. I really do feel that he is trying his best to help humanity, and I do feel that remote viewing has a place in our world that we would benefit when embracing its implications.

Though from a scientific standpoint I cannot say that this Giza project is valid enough to use the words "irrefutable proof," I can definitely say that this is a good base for remote viewing to be practiced more, where we can collectively embrace consciousness studies more.

Even if Courtney may have made a miner mistake for leading people on, let us take what positive elements we can from Courtney's announcement. In my mind, one positive thing I can embrace is that the field of consciousness studies is being analyzed from more and more angles every day.

[araucaria]

Samwise, while I applaud your kind, positive thinking, I would say that the minor mistake of leading people on is compounded by the major mistake of Courtney Brown approaching his work for humanity from the angle of the Giza pyramids. As I suggest in earlier posts, the pyramid without an apex is the very symbol not only of endless hierarchy and of the endless crazy theories of pyramidologists (granted, some not so crazy, bu dismissable as it were by association), but also of the killler meme of civilization that we cannot walk away from. I think for starters we need to walk away from Courtney Brown.

[PathWalker]

I really do feel that he is trying his best to help humanity, and I do feel that remote viewing has a place in our world that we would benefit when embracing its implications.

Please notice that CB has a implicit agenda he is not revealing.
CB is controlled by TPTB, the control can be subtle and manipulative. It is possible CB is not aware to his controller and handler. Never the less he is not victim, he worked for the security agencies.

Once CB story appears in the MSM, it is a signal for a PTB controlling the spin. Like Snowden.
As long as he is with the alternative media, he is in the sandbox.

[Synchronicity]

I really do feel that he is trying his best to help humanity, and I do feel that remote viewing has a place in our world that we would benefit when embracing its implications.

Please notice that CB has a implicit agenda he is not revealing.
CB is controlled by TPTB, the control can be subtle and manipulative. It is possible CB is not aware to his controller and handler. Never the less he is not victim, he worked for the security agencies.

Once CB story appears in the MSM, it is a signal for a PTB controlling the spin. Like Snowden.
As long as he is with the alternative media, he is in the sandbox.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you...just wondering where the proof is that he is controlled as you mention. I know his Achilles heel is that need to be validated and vindicated by mainstream science and those who apparently matter to him, but beyond that I would be curious to know who exactly is controlling him. The need I mentioned is powerful enough by itself to skew his interpretations of situations, but just wondering.

[SilentFeathers]

My Opinion: Take it or leave it.

This is just another recruiting for another cult like following to generate a higher level of income and support for The Farside Institute/Courtney Brown.....come this summer or next year, or the year after, there will still be no miraculous announcement that'll change humanity and the world as we know it by Courtney Brown.....yet we will likely see Mr. Brown and associates driving new cars, wearing new clothes, and constantly paying their utility bills in advance, etc.

Leading people on with hope and amazing revelations (not yet revealed) of miraculous great changes coming in current mundane circumstances is nothing new. It's been going on for thousands of years; aka - cults/religions.

[The Castellan]

I don't want to look like a gimp, here, but what was the announcement, is any was given? :confused:

[Robin]

I don't want to look like a gimp, here, but what was the announcement, is any was given? :confused:

The announcement was the completion of the Farsight Institute's latest project: the Great Pyramid of Giza. (http://farsight.org/demo/Mysteries/Mysteries_7/Mysteries_Project_7_ryuseg.html)

Courtney and his team of two remote viewers have given their explanation on how the pyramids were constructed. Basically, they claim what has already been known by Truth seekers: the pyramids were built with advanced sound and levitation technology, extraterrestrial races were involved, and humans were used for their slave labor.

Many people are upset because the announcement is nothing new, because the documentary to see the results of the remote viewing study costs money, and because people feel betrayed by Courtney for leading people on.

[Operator]

Email from Courtney:


Hi Everyone!
Today we have Vic Guiza's latest Farsight Chronicles (below), and I also want to share the essence of some of the communications that I have been receiving. In one communication, the person said that the Giza Pyramid Project was interesting, but he was sure I was going to announce something that is more current. In another communication, the person asked when I am going to announce the identities of the Illuminati. Yet another said he was sure I was holding back on when Nibiru would crash into Earth. And yet another said that she was certain I was going to say what happened to the missing airliner. And on it goes.

Friends, the Giza Pyramid project is the biggest thing we have ever done. It is huge. There is nothing bigger than that. Some may not agree, but that project really is amazing, and I fully believe that in the future people will say that this project was a turning point for our planet.

With this said, let me outline what I hoped would be the second and third parts of the major announcement that occurred last Saturday. The announcement of that project was amazing in my view. It took nearly two decades of work in order to do what we did. But the announcement of the Giza Pyramid results does not tell us what we should do in the future to make this planet a better place. That is, it is nice as a diagnostic, but not much as a prescriptive. Thus, the second part of the announcement was to focus on what happens next. Given the ability to show remote viewing on video in a theatrically interesting manner using stellar viewers, the issue of whether or not remote viewing actually exists can be settled for many, and we can start talking about how to integrate this into our daily lives. So the next part was to be a detailed outline of a campaign to start this. It involved explanations of public petitions, large number appeals to university administrators to encourage classes dealing with these forbidden topics, and even staged events that would be covered by the local news, such as motorcycle rallies and even skywriting over urban areas by participating pilots.

The third part of the major announcement was to explain the matter of symbolism. People need symbols to project a unified message, and we have been developing such a symbol, and we want to explain it.

The second and third parts of the major announcement will come in their own time. But for now, too many people seem to be thinking that we are planning to announce some current day revelation that they find in the news. We need to let that settle before going on to the second and third parts of our plan. Things are too important for our message to be lost.

We will find a way soon to move to the next phase of this plan.

Warmly,
Courtney Brown, Ph.D., Director
The Farsight Institute

Latest comic strip from Vic Guiza:

http://www.farsight.org/Vic_Guiza/farsightcomicstrip8.jpg

While the implication postings took place Courtney said that they would make sense once the
announcement was made. When I remember some of them I don't think that's true.
(E.g. what does George Lucas have to do with the great pyramid ?)

Hopefully I will have a bit of time to filter those out ...

[GuyFox]

Courtney is right about one thing - The way the world works now is:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-APIEVSiWIYE/UDN6iUTmf4I/AAAAAAAAA8o/FDU9to7qhis/s400/imagesCA17JXMT.jpg

Only the Criminally-corrupt corporations - who:


+ Pollute the planet (through their oil and energy)
+ Kill people (through their dangerous drugs and medical practices)
+ Poison people (through their toxic GMO foods)
+ Rob people (through the corrupt banking system)
+ Lie about what is happening (by spinning the News to suit corporations)


Are considered to be WORTHY to charge for what they produce - Why?


Everyone else - including this worthy website (where many spend countless hours and
Bill Ryan PAYs for the hosting !)


- Are expected to GIVE AWAY EVERYTHING for Free, forever


Have those who have been posting here for years, and criticizing Dr Brown,

ever thought that maybe Dr Brown might stop his charity?

(And P-A might too.)

[Synchronicity]

Sorry, but from what I read over and over here, that is the point of this place. If you can't post your opinions and passions, then what is the point of having a site in the first place? I get the idea from all the thread titles that this is supposed to be a place where people can say something sounds like bs or that it makes sense despite what the rest of the world thinks. How can that happen if people aren't allowed to disagree or criticize respectfully? If you took that away from here and other similar places you would end up with a bunch of robots just agreeing with everything anyone says. Humans are wrong sometimes, and we sure can learn and move forward if people aren't encouraged to challenge statements and ask questions. And they do sell products, so it isn't all for free.

Courtney will be making the rounds on various shows....what would ask him if you were interviewing him? I would love to see what you would like to ask him if you could....

[Snowflower]

I guess I would ask him how he can possibly suggest that an experiment involving only two people proves the reliability of remote viewing. No, make that three people: two to do the work and one to interpret the results. No, make that only one. The person interpreting the results is really the whole experiment.

Actually, I feel a little sorry for him. He believes himself so completely that he simply assumed the world would beat a path to his door.

If he had simply presented the experiment as fascinating with possibility, he probably would have sold lots of DVD's and had a good following. But he built the anticipation far too high for far too long, and the result was a belly flop.

[araucaria]

Everyone else - including this worthy website (where many spend countless hours and
Bill Ryan PAYs for the hosting !)


- Are expected to GIVE AWAY EVERYTHING for Free, forever


This is not correct. For your information, this site has a donate button, which, believe it or not, some people do use, and one would expect them to do so. Simply, the advantage of voluntary payments is that the system is not weighted against the less well-off.

[GuyFox]

That's good.
People should Donate - and I support that idea.
But I have my own chatboard (on very different topics - and a popular one),
and have seen that hundreds or thousands of people never donate, and expect everything for free*.
If that is NOT the case here, then that is great


The attitude I am attacking is the notion that:

+ the only proper work, is "working for the man" (big co's and govt), and
+ the only products that should be sold or marketed are the ones created by big business, and Hollywood

Too many people think that way* - but probably not a majority of people who visit this site and post here. (Thanks for giving me a chance to clarify what I meant.)

===
*David Icke has found a similar attitude towards his new effort, The People's Voice, and mentions it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ8jjqus1II

[araucaria]

That's good.
People should Donate - and I support that idea.
But I have my own chatboard (on very different topics - and a popular one),
and have seen that hundreds or thousands of people never donate, and expect everything for free*.
If that is NOT the case here, then that is great


The attitude I am attacking is the notion that:

+ the only proper work, is "working for the man" (big co's and govt), and
+ the only products that should be sold or marketed are the ones created by big business, and Hollywood

Too many people think that way* - but probably not a majority of people who visit this site and post here. (Thanks for giving me a chance to clarify what I meant.)

===
*David Icke has found a similar attitude towards his new effort, The People's Voice, and mentions it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ8jjqus1II
The thing is that money per se serves the agenda that we oppose. People around here are generally chary of giving money to anything, not because they are greedy or selfish, but because they feel more comfortable within a system that gets by as far as possible without financial transactions. Meanwhile, they invest a great deal of mental and other energy in this forum which they might conceivably have otherwise seen as a potential source of income. Their non-monetary contribution creates a value for the forum above and beyond the paying of the bills – what we call ‘goodwill’.

[Truglivartna]

E=Mail to Courtney Brown
Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Courtney:

You now have a most important and easily verifiable situation which demands that you put your claims of results where you propose your integrity to lie. That situation is the missing Malaysian Airliner, MH370.

Out of the infinite number of timelines surrounding this Airliner event, there is only one that is verifiable from the present moment back to where the event was formulated without danger of altering the event by dint of an observer observing it....or an originator altering it.

If you want to establish the validity of remote viewing, you can have no better worldwide audience than at present, and you can make verifiable claims from moment to moment without endangering your life...even if the chain of events are not generally -- or widely -- accepted as being part of the present reality as has been released by the "Cabal", secret agencies, and E.T.'s presently occupying human bodies and integrated into important positions. You could, for example:
1. State that the plane is at this moment (give time) located: on the earth; in the earth, or above the earth. No more detail necessary
2. That the plane exists in this dimension...or another dimension.
3. That it is undamaged...or any other condition short of undamaged.
4. That the people on board are at this moment alive; or dead; or some variation thereof;
5. That they are being held as prisoners, held for ransom, enemies of the govt.; etc
6. Think of a few more verifiable facts surrounding the present state of affairs.

You might not want to say that you know who precipitated the event, but you might want to say that you have that answer and it is being held in secret to protect your remote viewers; similarly, you might want to say why the event occurred.

What you seem to want to have happen is for someone else other than you to learn how to remote view and do that job themselves. You're the one who signed up for remote viewing, Courtney. So far, your "major event" has left those of us who might have been interested in your great event in the first place, more than a little disappointed. There is an ever-increasing gap between those who eagerly seek the rapidly expanding awareness we live in today... and the rest of humanity. As the old adage goes: "You can't teach a pig to sing; it's a waste of time; and furthermore it irritates the pig" And the best way to conquer fear is to face it head on, but have a good Chinese laundry to back you up!

As a good Marine Officer, I learned 60 years ago the slogan: "Never first; never last; and never volunteer". Any good Marine also quickly learns that "There's a thin line between a Hero and a Fool", and "Dead martyrs are not nearly as effective as living leaders".

Remote viewing is a lousy prophetic medium, but it should produce the very best of history scribes. Give the world a "hands-on" demonstration while you have the opportunity.

[Robin]

E=Mail to Courtney Brown
Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Courtney has received many emails from people asking him to do the same thing. He has said that it is not possible to remote view events that happened in the present, future, or recent past, so he and his team cannot do it.

Also, if he and his team did remote view the missing plane and came up with a conclusion, how would they be able to prove it? The governments of the world will not verify what actually happened, so Courtney's efforts would be for naught.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Courtney has received many emails from people asking him to do the same thing. He has said that it is not possible to remote view events that happened in the present, future, or recent past, so he and his team cannot do it.

Frankly that sounds odd to me, I remember some interview with one of the original RVers, where he said he checked out the detonation system of a new Chinese missile in real time, just by pressing his face through the fuselage, of course that particular RVer could be talking trash (cold war skill flexing) but there seem to be a lot of opinions on this.

[greybeard]

I hope there is more substantial information to come.
As far as finding truth goes--

The late Dr David Hawkins in Power vs Force claimed that he and volunteers had been discovering past truth vs non truth for a long period, on any subject, by using muscle testing (Kinesology) http://www.muscletestingdoctor.com/muscle-testing-can-detect-life-draining-media/

Now Dr Hawkins was just as enthusiastic as Courtney he saw all kinds of practical uses--ie is the person on trial guilty or otherwise.
Is this medicine effective or otherwise and many other things.

Draw backs were that only about 10% of the population could do this.
The questions had to be integreous and asked in a present tense.
It is true that etc. then a yes or non yes answer arrived--the muscle remains strong for yes and goes weak on non yes.
The answers are claimed to be coming from the field--collective consciousness-- source call it what you will
I have no opinion on the validity of this method but it may be more accurate than remote viewing if it is so.

Chris

[Synchronicity]

E=Mail to Courtney Brown
Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Courtney has received many emails from people asking him to do the same thing. He has said that it is not possible to remote view events that happened in the present, future, or recent past, so he and his team cannot do it.

Also, if he and his team did remote view the missing plane and came up with a conclusion, how would they be able to prove it? The governments of the world will not verify what actually happened, so Courtney's efforts would be for naught.

Seriously? That makes no sense at all. So only far past and it takes a year to set it up? Huh? That doesn't make any logical sense. I understand not RVing the future, and if you want to say no one can reliably view the past and prove it is correct I would say that is debatable, but in the recent past you can indeed RV. Obviously in the present you can. Wow. that makes no sense at all. It is interesting...sorry, can't blindly give a target to RVers of something happening now or just happened because that can't be RVed, but we can reliably view hundreds or thousands of years ago? Huh? That is rather silly...not calling you silly, but that statement is bizarre and not true. That sounds like excuses to me. I can...many people can..focus on a place now and see what is there. Many can focus on something placed somewhere a week or day or an hour ago...and he can't with all his protocols?

[SilentFeathers]

E=Mail to Courtney Brown
Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Courtney has received many emails from people asking him to do the same thing. He has said that it is not possible to remote view events that happened in the present, future, or recent past, so he and his team cannot do it.

Also, if he and his team did remote view the missing plane and came up with a conclusion, how would they be able to prove it? The governments of the world will not verify what actually happened, so Courtney's efforts would be for naught.

Seriously? That makes no sense at all. So only far past and it takes a year to set it up? Huh? That doesn't make any logical sense. I understand not RVing the future, and if you want to say no one can reliably view the past and prove it is correct I would say that is debatable, but in the recent past you can indeed RV. Obviously in the present you can. Wow. that makes no sense at all. It is interesting...sorry, can't blindly give a target to RVers of something happening now or just happened because that can't be RVed, but we can reliably view hundreds or thousands of years ago? Huh? That is rather silly...not calling you silly, but that statement is bizarre and not true. That sounds like excuses to me. I can...many people can..focus on a place now and see what is there. Many can focus on something placed somewhere a week or day or an hour ago...and he can't with all his protocols?

That's why Courtney Brown can't make that miraculous announcement about something that can change the course of humanity and change life as we know it forever......because it hasn't happened yet!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I can...many people can..focus on a place now and see what is there. Many can focus on something placed somewhere a week or day or an hour ago...and he can't with all his protocols?

Exactly, even un intentional, as in deja vu for example.

[Truglivartna]

E=Mail to Courtney Brown
Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Courtney has received many emails from people asking him to do the same thing. He has said that it is not possible to remote view events that happened in the present, future, or recent past, so he and his team cannot do it.

Also, if he and his team did remote view the missing plane and came up with a conclusion, how would they be able to prove it? The governments of the world will not verify what actually happened, so Courtney's efforts would be for naught.

Having purchased Ed Dames' $300 course on Remote Viewing some time ago (and been quite unsuccessful with it as far as I personally am capable), I can still say that what information I did get from Dames and other remote viewers on YouTube is that the military remote viewers have, in the past, actually found themselves face to face with Russian remote viewers, in real time, in the present moment, discovering what they were doing, and then being discovered themselves. So, if Courtney has ever said it is not possible to remote view events that happened in the present, future, or recent past (and I can't imagine he would have said that) he may only be speaking of himself and his crew. If the situation you suggest were true, what would be the use of remote viewing militarily?

Had Courtney and his crew come up with an explanation of what has happened to flight MH370 (given that they already have a high degree of credibility) it would lead those who could aid the situation in a believable direction (better than no direction at all) -- and, most importantly, if and when the truth is known, it would substantiate the value of Courtney and his very capable individuals.

Along the same lines as to the "revealing of truth", those of us on this Forum who have read The Thiaoouba Prophecy have discovered in the material not only what Courtney found to be the case regarding pyramid construction, but also a great deal more as to pyramid energy function. Here is an excerpt:


The Thiaoouba Prophecy;
Excerpt from Page 91 of the PDF with references to Pyramid of Cheops.
PDF website: http://www.bioresonant.com/freebooks.html


"For now, I must finish off my story concerning the continent of Mu.

‘Savanasa then, was situated on a vast plateau overlooking plains which rose, on average, no more than 30 metres above sea level. On this plateau and in the centre, an enormous pyramid was constructed. Each stone used in its construction, some weighing more than 50 tonnes, was cut precisely to within one fifth of a millimetre, using what we can call ‘ultrasonic vibratory systems’.

This was done in the quarries of Holaton, now found on Easter Island, which was the one place on the entire continent where this special rock could be found. There was, however, another quarry at Notora, south-west of the continent. ‘The enormous stones were transported using anti-gravitational techniques well known to these people. (They were carried on platforms, 20 centimetres above the paved roads, and were constructed using the same principles as those of the pyramids.) Roads such as these were built all over the country, converging, like a massive spider’s web, on the capital, Savanasa.

‘The huge stones were taken to Savanasa and put into position according to directions from the ‘master’ or chief architect on the project. When finished, the pyramid measured exactly 440.01 metres in height and its four faces were oriented precisely towards the four points of the compass.

‘Was this intended to be the King’s palace, or his tomb?’ Everyone wore the same indulgent smile that often appeared when I asked a question.

‘Nothing of the sort', Michel. 'This pyramid was much more important - it was a tool. An enormous tool, I admit, but a tool just the same. So, too, was the Pyramid of Cheops, in Egypt, though it was much smaller in size.’

‘A tool?' I asked. 'Please explain - I’m no longer with you.’
It was true I was having trouble following Thao, but I could sense one of the great mysteries was about to be revealed to me - one which had provoked so much inquiry and had been the subject of so much writing on Earth.

‘You will have realized,’ Thao resumed, ‘that these were highly advanced people. They possessed a profound understanding of Universal Law and used their pyramid as a ‘captor’ of cosmic rays, forces and energies, as well as terrestrial energies. ‘Inside, rooms positioned according to a precise plan, served the King and certain other great initiates, as powerful communications centres, enabling (telepathic) communication with other planets and other worlds in the universe.

Such communication with extra-terrestrials is no longer possible for people on Earth; but the people of Mu in those days, by natural means and by exploiting cosmic forces, were in constant communication with other beings and were even able to explore parallel universes.’

‘Was this the sole purpose of the pyramid?’ I asked.

‘Not quite. Its second use was to make rain. By a system of plates, made of a special alloy incorporating silver as its major component, these people were able, in a few days, to cause the accumulation of clouds above the country, and so, to have rain as they needed it. ‘Thus, they were able to create, virtually, a paradise over the whole continent. Rivers and springs never dried up, but flowed lazily across the numerous plains of a land that was essentially flat.

‘Fruit trees were laden with fruit, bowing under the weight of oranges, mandarins or apples, according to latitude. Exotic fruits, of kinds that actually no longer exist on Earth, were harvested in abundance. One such fruit, called the Laikoti, possessed a property that caused an excitation of brain activity, allowing whoever ate it to solve problems which would normally be beyond them. This property was not actually a drug but the fruit was, nevertheless, condemned by the sages. The Laikoti was only authorized to be planted in the gardens of the King.

‘Man being what he is, however, the fruit was secretly planted in various places throughout the continent. Those caught with the fruit were harshly punished for they had directly disobeyed the King of Mu. In matters of religion and government, he was to be obeyed absolutely, as he was the representative of the Great Spirit.

‘As such, the King was not one to be worshiped - he simply represented another. ‘Those people believed in Tharoa - the God, The Spirit, the One and Only, the Creator of all things and, of course, they believed in reincarnation. ‘What concerns us here, Michel, are the great events which occurred on your planet, in times long gone, so that you will be able to enlighten your people. I won’t, therefore, elaborate on my description of the continent that was home to one of the best-organized civilizations to have existed on Earth. However, you should know that, after a period of 50, 000 years, the population of Mu was eighty million.

‘Expeditions were undertaken regularly, to explore and research aspects of the planet. For these expeditions, they used flying ships, similar to what you call ‘flying saucers’. It was known that most of the planet was populated by black, yellow, and also white races, although the latter had regressed into a primitive state due to their loss of technical understanding right at the beginning. These white people had actually arrived on Earth in very small numbers at a time in between the arrival of the Bakaratinians and the colonising of Mu. They had settled on a continent known to you as Atlantis, but, as much for material as spiritual reasons, their civilization failed completely.’

‘What do you mean by ‘material reasons?’ I asked.

‘Natural disasters, which effectively destroyed their towns and almost all that might have allowed them to advance technologically. ‘I must emphasize the following point: prior to embarking on their exploratory expeditions of the planet, the inhabitants of Mu had conducted research by means of the Pyramid of Savanasa. As a result of this research, it was decided to send forth the flying ships and to colonize New Guinea and the southern Asiatic region - that is, all to the west of Mu. Simultaneously, they set up colonies in South America and Central America.

‘Most importantly, they established a colonial base, which grew into a huge town, in the area known to your archaeologists as Thiacuano (Tiahuanaco), located not far from Lake Titicaca. The Andes did not exist at the time, the mountains formed some time later, as you will soon see. ‘At Thiacuano, an enormous seaport was built. In those days, North and South America were flat and eventually, a canal was constructed to link an inland sea, existing where Brazil is now, with the Pacific Ocean. This sea also had an outlet into the Atlantic Ocean, so that it was possible to pass from one ocean to the other and so, to colonize the continent of Atlantis...’

The above concerns not only the Cheops pyramid, but the main pyramid located on the continent of MU. If you have purchased Courtney's DVD, as I have, you will notice the similarity between this book's explanations and the revelations of Courtney's remote viewers. Now...can you prove what the author Michel Desmarquet said actually happened to him in real time, or even in a dream? No! But proving something does not always happen with the first clue. I consider my own search for truth to be a treasure hunt whose individual clues unfold one step at a time. Some clues are completely misleading disinformation; some are half true; some are 20% true; some are 100% true. The fun part is discovering what actually happened at some later point in time, and comparing it with your own Sherlock Holmes ability.

Were it the same way with all of us, there would be no need for negativity as each concept would be taken for its own intrinsic value, and rather than knock Courtney and his program, I have to assume that he has been "instructed" (or warned under some rather severe penalties) to purposely lead people astray by focusing on unimportant events. Maybe some day he'll tell us the whole story.

Trugli

[Hervé]

Let's not forget:


[...]


That's a prime example of the obfuscation perpetrated by PTB and their minions (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=809954&viewfull=1#post809954) <---):

"It takes time and it's very complicated..." it all has to be controlled in order to be "scientifically" acceptable by "authorities."

Besides, Courtney did mention in one of his interviews that it's a firm policy of his to not step on any government toes and that plane isn't going to lead anywhere else than to some government toes....

[frozen alchemy]

Umm, I know probably everyone has had enough of this topic/thread, but I'm wondering - has there been ANY indication that he was in contact with others all over the world that were going to also participate in this big announcement, or was that all hyperbole? Since he's said that he wanted to also (parts II and III) encourage everyone to get training in this, and there was the comments about 'motorcycle rallies and sky writing' to get the word out, that seems to be his big plan. 'Proof' that RV works with non-verifiable ancient information.

I want to ask again, if RV is so great, why can't it detail the mechanics of the stone cutting lasers or the anti-grav machinery enough to allow it to be reverse-engineered, and also why can't someone RV next week's newspaper and get the lottery numbers, sports scores, or investment info, any of which will be all that would be necessary to fill up Farsight's coffers far into the future without hurting anyone? His stating that the foundation is broke is evidence that RV is still in it's infancy, at best.

Courtney, you want everyone to believe that RV is almost magic? Show them the money and the physics formulas. :-/

[outerheaven]

Yes, I wonder what those "sensitive materials" delayed in shipping were? DVD flap-inserts?

I followed this thread pretty closely, because I saw a man put his reputation on the line and thought the results would either be that he did indeed have something, or he'd hatchet apart his own reputation.

Turns out I was wrong. He had nothing, but he also didn't necessarily hatchet his own reputation. Case in point: I honestly hadn't even heard of him until this fiasco. I'm sure thousands more learned of CB this way, too.

I make a little money as a writer. I know first-hand that even bad press can pay off. But my personal mantra is that bad press isn't worth it in the long run: you might sell more at first, but you alienate your potential audience long term.

And that's what happened here, at least for me. I learned who CB is, but no thank you, I've had enough!

[Roisin]

I really do feel that he is trying his best to help humanity, and I do feel that remote viewing has a place in our world that we would benefit when embracing its implications.

Please notice that CB has a implicit agenda he is not revealing.
CB is controlled by TPTB, the control can be subtle and manipulative. It is possible CB is not aware to his controller and handler. Never the less he is not victim, he worked for the security agencies.

Once CB story appears in the MSM, it is a signal for a PTB controlling the spin. Like Snowden.
As long as he is with the alternative media, he is in the sandbox.

I've been wondering about this too... that all of those well-known RV trainers out there, especially the ones with "Intelligence" and/or military backgrounds are MILABS.

My concern is that I'll sign up for one of their programs and show up at their on-site conferences only to end up having exposed myself unwittingly to some powerful subliminal mind control tactics or worse....

[giovonni]

will share this here ...

https://i0.wp.com/www.farsight.org/graphics/Giza_graphic.jpg

New on Veritas Radio

March 27, 2014

Courtney Brown, Ph.D. | The Great Pyramid of Giza: The Mystery Solved

Hour 1

:ear: Listen here (http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/03mar/VS-140327-cbrown.php)

[HaulinBananas]

The dvd The Great Pyramid of Giza - The Mystery Solved arrived from Amazon and I watched it last night. It's really good. It touches on many of the topics discussed on this forum, aliens, ancient history, mysteries, technology not currently known or used.

There is some criticism of Courtney Brown's work or announcement methods in this thread, and of course everyone is entitled to their opinions. However, after watching the dvd, it occurs to me that there was work and expense making this dvd, and critics only need their keyboard, an internet connection and an opinion to tear down someone's work, sometimes without examining it.

After watching the dvd, Courtney Brown's excitement and passionate advocacy for RV is understandable. The dvd is not perfect, but it's certainly interesting. I'm not certain that "anyone" can be as good as these two remote viewers, but it's very interesting to see them work.

[araucaria]

will share this here ...

https://i0.wp.com/www.farsight.org/graphics/Giza_graphic.jpg

New on Veritas Radio

March 27, 2014

Courtney Brown, Ph.D. | The Great Pyramid of Giza: The Mystery Solved

Hour 1

:ear: Listen here (http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/03mar/VS-140327-cbrown.php)
I’ve reached the 40-minute mark and Courtney is still defending himself and his institute threatened with closure. As he explains, he has chosen quality over quantity – just two guys and no backup if ever they have to stop. If this is farsight, then it lacks foresight. No research can survive for long independently of any teaching unit. Compare this with Dolores Cannon, who has been training people to do what she does, and has second-generation practitioners who learnt from them. Maybe the quality is sometimes lower than if you consult Dolores in person, but there is strength in numbers, as well as the possibility of finding people who are just as good if not better. The other thing is that hundreds and probably thousands more clients are receiving hypnotic regression than would otherwise be possible, and rather than ordering a DVD to watch on the Internet.

So Courtney is right: it is not about money. The problem is that exclusively ‘military grade’ remote viewing is not a viable option. I argued against it on theoretical grounds, but clearly it does not work for practical reasons either. The field has to be opened up and allowed to thrive naturally. This means creating multiple practitioners as well as multiple viewers.

[giovonni]

Note the second hour of the interview's tone and substance is much better and Courtney does get more into some of the remote viewing findings ... Unfortunately i am not able to publish the second hour due to Mel's request for not reproducing his interviews without permission ...

Also it has become clear (for me) that Courtney's heart in this matter was (is) coming from a noble intended place ... :)

[araucaria]

Note the second hour of the interview's tone and substance is much better and Courtney does get more into some of remote the viewing findings ... Unfortunately i am not able to publish the second hour due to Mel's request for not reproducing his interviews without permission ...

And it has become clear (for me) also that Courtney's heart in this matter was (is) coming from a noble intended place ... :)
I tend to agree that he is a bona fide researcher. I'll listen to part 2 later. Meanwhile, he brings up the 2013 flooding which he says would have happened but for the February meteor being fragmented by some means. This may be so, but it does raise the issue of the status of what is being remote-viewed, even if we accept the technique as ‘real’. This episode also undermines Courtney’s claim that the Farsight institute people are the only ones doing what they do. They are not (or were not) alone. In the video below, at 3 hrs 56 (but start at 3:52), Andrew Basiago describes how in c.1970 he time-travelled with an ‘advanced chronovisor’ to 2013 and saw the Supreme Court building under water.


Andrew D Basiago Talks About Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha-mashiach) Crucifixion & Resurrection being shown on a screen using Timetravel Technology of the real event !!

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Orginal Video
Andrew D. Basiago - 2 & 3 Nov. 2013 - Project Pegasus & The Mars Project
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Basiago also tells how his forays into the future brought back the names of future presidents (Clinton, Obama), in other words stuff that subsequently happened, but also stuff from timelines that have not materialized but which also had an influence on what was done back then. For example, in this case, he reports how in the decade up until 1980, 1/3 of the US population was discreetly moved from east to west of the Mississippi on account of such flooding scenes.

So the status of what is going on can vary. Thus, when he was teleported to Mars, his encounter with Martians and their fauna seemed real enough, including when he had an arm ripped off by a wild beast. But when he got home and discovered his arm was still there, this suggested, as Basiago himself states, more of a holographic experience than a real one. He has no problem with that, and it by no means undermines what he is saying.

This is where Courtney Brown’s position is slightly different. Why his ‘truth’ about the pyramids should be any truer than his remote viewing of 2013 is not clear, because he seems to be conflating the reality of RV as a technique with the reality of the remote-viewed material. I prefer Basiago’s circumspection.

[frozen alchemy]

Basiago also said that he's going to be President of the U.S. in 2016. Somehow, I think that may end up being in one of the other timelines...

I think Courtney Brown would have made plenty of money (again, why not remote view next week's newspaper for the lottery numbers if you need money?) if he simply put the video up for viewing by anyone and asked for donations if you felt it was worthy. It may cost money to produce a DVD, it costs a lot less to stick two guys in front of a camera for a few hours, edit the results, and put it up on Youtube. And he still hasn't come out and said who globally he was coordinating this all with (a big part of the big buildup, which led to the big let-down). People don't like being snookered and he should have seen this coming (heh).

As it was reported that the U.S. Government came to the conclusion that RV wasn't precise or dependable enough, CB and his two viewers have also said that it's not detailed enough to come back with schematics on how to lift a 100 ton block of stone or cut the darn thing with incredible precision. Until then, it's a fun parlor trick and indistinguishable from the RVers imagination. Remember, most of CB's enthusiasm is that it was a blind study; that his crew didn't know the topic of the next big, year's long study. He apparently doesn't give them new tasks every week, some big, some small. He gives them a new big one rarely. You mean to tell me they haven't sat around discussing the next big thing, and they couldn't guess it was 'pyramids' this time? And not something unusual about the pyramids, but the same question as always, 'who and how'... when you could RV where the next spectacular tomb is hiding, or the hall of records, or... ; and then just go there, finance a dig and prove your method works.

[araucaria]

Basiago also said that he's going to be President of the U.S. in 2016. Somehow, I think that may end up being in one of the other timelines...

I think Courtney Brown would have made plenty of money (again, why not remote view next week's newspaper for the lottery numbers if you need money?) if he simply put the video up for viewing by anyone and asked for donations if you felt it was worthy. It may cost money to produce a DVD, it costs a lot less to stick two guys in front of a camera for a few hours, edit the results, and put it up on Youtube. And he still hasn't come out and said who globally he was coordinating this all with (a big part of the big buildup, which led to the big let-down). People don't like being snookered and he should have seen this coming (heh).

As it was reported that the U.S. Government came to the conclusion that RV wasn't precise or dependable enough, CB and his two viewers have also said that it's not detailed enough to come back with schematics on how to lift a 100 ton block of stone or cut the darn thing with incredible precision. Until then, it's a fun parlor trick and indistinguishable from the RVers imagination. Remember, most of CB's enthusiasm is that it was a blind study; that his crew didn't know the topic of the next big, year's long study. He apparently doesn't give them new tasks every week, some big, some small. He gives them a new big one rarely. You mean to tell me they haven't sat around discussing the next big thing, and they couldn't guess it was 'pyramids' this time? And not something unusual about the pyramids, but the same question as always, 'who and how'... when you could RV where the next spectacular tomb is hiding, or the hall of records, or... ; and then just go there, finance a dig and prove your method works.
Well Basiago is running for president in 2016 on the basis that he was remote viewed as a future president, along with Clinton and Obama. I'm not sure the date was definitely 2016 - he might get another chance later on. He is under no illusions that something major is going to have to happen between now and then. He mentioned the event of half of congress being outed as CIA agents. The doubtful part of that statement is the outing, for that many agents of someone seems highly likely.

Regarding the lottery idea, it is often noted that using 'paranormal' powers for personal gain is a big no no. Basiago also says that Nixon was removed because he was trying to clean up the mess left by time-travel billionaires.

[GuyFox]

E=Mail to Courtney Brown
Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Courtney has received many emails from people asking him to do the same thing. He has said that it is not possible to remote view events that happened in the present, future, or recent past, so he and his team cannot do it.

Also, if he and his team did remote view the missing plane and came up with a conclusion, how would they be able to prove it? The governments of the world will not verify what actually happened, so Courtney's efforts would be for naught.

I think a better reason that he is not doing this is one he is unlikely to admit: He does not want to directly "take on" the power structures that run our planet. Perhaps he thinks he has enough challenges already in selling his controversial ideas without adding a powerful new enemy.

[Timewaster]

On his Veritas radio interview, he said he can RV the past and present accurately, but said the future was more difficult because he cant tell what timeline he is RV'ing.


So for one reason or another he won't RV the lost plane.....

[Synchronicity]

will share this here ...

https://i0.wp.com/www.farsight.org/graphics/Giza_graphic.jpg

New on Veritas Radio

March 27, 2014

Courtney Brown, Ph.D. | The Great Pyramid of Giza: The Mystery Solved

Hour 1

:ear: Listen here (http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/03mar/VS-140327-cbrown.php)
I’ve reached the 40-minute mark and Courtney is still defending himself and his institute threatened with closure. As he explains, he has chosen quality over quantity – just two guys and no backup if ever they have to stop. If this is farsight, then it lacks foresight. No research can survive for long independently of any teaching unit. Compare this with Dolores Cannon, who has been training people to do what she does, and has second-generation practitioners who learnt from them. Maybe the quality is sometimes lower than if you consult Dolores in person, but there is strength in numbers, as well as the possibility of finding people who are just as good if not better. The other thing is that hundreds and probably thousands more clients are receiving hypnotic regression than would otherwise be possible, and rather than ordering a DVD to watch on the Internet.

So Courtney is right: it is not about money. The problem is that exclusively ‘military grade’ remote viewing is not a viable option. I argued against it on theoretical grounds, but clearly it does not work for practical reasons either. The field has to be opened up and allowed to thrive naturally. This means creating multiple practitioners as well as multiple viewers.

That was my thought as well. Anything that is treated as exclusive and mysterious, does not become inclusive, and anyone who questions is considered "noise" whether s/he has legitimate and sincere questions, isn't going to become mainstream. This can be done. I am glad he has done his work and I do know it was hard work, and I also hope that it will not be considered the domain of a few. It just isn't. It is part of being human and should be encouraged instead of shrouded in "only my group can do this right and you may not question me regarding technique or results".

It does work...at least it can be confirmed to work in the present...but there is still no conclusive proof for the past or future, so asking people to blindly accept one group's results as fact for present and future isn't reasonable. Intriguing, cool, informative...but not conclusive. He has made the rounds talking about it and hopefully more will come out that helps answer questions. No one is perfect and he is human as we all are, so expecting perfection isn't reasonable.

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On his Veritas radio interview, he said he can RV the past and present accurately, but said the future was more difficult because he cant tell what timeline he is RV'ing.


So for one reason or another he won't RV the lost plane.....

I agree on the future...too many variables. You RV it and change what you do and what you saw could be gone.

[superconsciousness]

I'm really wondering if there will even be elections in November 2016...probably, but considering the trajectory we're on, why bother?

[araucaria]

I'm really wondering if there will even be elections in November 2016...probably, but considering the trajectory we're on, why bother?
That's what they said in 2008 and probably in 2012 as well, I forget. Why bother? Because we are not on the "why bother?" trajectory, we are changing things.

[Synchronicity]

I'm really wondering if there will even be elections in November 2016...probably, but considering the trajectory we're on, why bother?

Why wouldn't there be? And when people start saying there is no need to bother with something like an election, then the whole energy of the country becomes more negative. Sure, the whole system is a mess, but elections still will be held.

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I'm really wondering if there will even be elections in November 2016...probably, but considering the trajectory we're on, why bother?
That's what they said in 2008 and probably in 2012 as well, I forget. Why bother? Because we are not on the "why bother?" trajectory, we are changing things.

Yes, the end has been coming ever since humans were standing upright, and each generation has been worse and things were horrible each year...when our outlook is that things are hopeless, then they will be hopeless. I don't think they are, personally.

[Snowflower]

I shun elections. It is not a why bother attitude. It is deliberate. The world's only hope is to have the system collapse. Revolution won't accomplish it. All violence will do is hurt the people trying it, and change nothing. The only way to collapse it is for enough people to care enough to take the action of shunning.

[the_real_dave-id]

I agree with you, Snowflower. If nobody agrees to play the game anymore then it's game over. I think the system only got this far because people gave it the authority to do so. But to me the distance from where we are now, to the place where everybody, together, stops agreeing to play the game anymore, feels wide... really really wide. But hey, ya gotta start somewhere. I like your use of the term shun as well. "To avoid or refuse to accept someone or something, deliberately." as one internet dictionary put it. Sweet. Shun on!

[The Castellan]

I shun elections. It is not a why bother attitude. It is deliberate. The world's only hope is to have the system collapse. Revolution won't accomplish it. All violence will do is hurt the people trying it, and change nothing. The only way to collapse it is for enough people to care enough to take the action of shunning. I disagree on the last bit....you can 'shun' all you want, but the bad guys have the GUNS. And sometimes Revolution is all that's left, plus look how complacent people are.....they are more concerned about what's for dinner, any beer left, who's winning the NBA finals, who got kicked off Idol, Kim Kardassian did what today, and so on.

[Synchronicity]

I feel that if I don't at least make an effort and say who I want in, then I can't complain when I don't like them. Of course, sometimes I don't like any of them, and often the ones I want don't get elected. But sometimes they do and I do feel that it is important for me personally to vote. I am not saying what anyone else should do. It's just how I feel.

[araucaria]

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On his Veritas radio interview, he said he can RV the past and present accurately, but said the future was more difficult because he cant tell what timeline he is RV'ing.


So for one reason or another he won't RV the lost plane.....

I agree on the future...too many variables. You RV it and change what you do and what you saw could be gone.
That could have been an issue, but not any more -- that plane disappeared three weeks ago! Tell us where it was after 12hrs, after 24 hrs…, back in March of 2014.

For doubtless valid reasons of his own, Courtney Brown will not tread on toes. Either he won't RV the lost plane because he thinks this is what he would be doing, or he has RV'd it and won't publish because he knows this to be the case.

That is a pity, because what he needs is not proof of concept but physical evidence validating an RV prediction.

Dolores Cannon also steers clear of confrontation with the ptb, but this does not prevent her from coming up with the physical evidence. She predicts on an ongoing basis that a patient's story told in deep trance will alleviate their associated physical symptoms. This is her core activity - she is a healer - and the content of those stories recounted in her books is in a sense no more than a byproduct of that activity.

To put it another way, Dolores Cannon finds there is something in for her (and for us) when she looks primarily after other people's needs. The applied science comes first, the pure science second. Or rather, they alternate indefinitely, feeding each other.

What Courtney Brown and many other scientists do is to put the cart before the horse. Pure science soon becomes mathematical. The mathematicians find lots of infinities in their equations which astronomers for instance then have to ‘renormalize’ out, because they see no infinities in the cosmos; and in the process they lose 96% of the big picture. Meanwhile, the pure science becomes even more purified and there is little hope of closing this widening gap between the two.

This is how scientific remote viewing has become both the subject and object of this navel-gazing research, and the focus on Atlantis or the pyramids is in a very real sense of absolutely no relevance to our here and now. In this form it has been totally emasculated, to the point of literally not being able to pay the bills. I’m sorry to have to say this about Courtney Brown, who seems a nice guy, but for me that is the corner he has painted himself into. He can forget about the ptb, now that he has been rendered totally harmless.

[frozen alchemy]

Basiago also said that he's going to be President of the U.S. in 2016. Somehow, I think that may end up being in one of the other timelines...

I think Courtney Brown would have made plenty of money (again, why not remote view next week's newspaper for the lottery numbers if you need money?) if he simply put the video up for viewing by anyone and asked for donations if you felt it was worthy. It may cost money to produce a DVD, it costs a lot less to stick two guys in front of a camera for a few hours, edit the results, and put it up on Youtube. And he still hasn't come out and said who globally he was coordinating this all with (a big part of the big buildup, which led to the big let-down). People don't like being snookered and he should have seen this coming (heh).

As it was reported that the U.S. Government came to the conclusion that RV wasn't precise or dependable enough, CB and his two viewers have also said that it's not detailed enough to come back with schematics on how to lift a 100 ton block of stone or cut the darn thing with incredible precision. Until then, it's a fun parlor trick and indistinguishable from the RVers imagination. Remember, most of CB's enthusiasm is that it was a blind study; that his crew didn't know the topic of the next big, year's long study. He apparently doesn't give them new tasks every week, some big, some small. He gives them a new big one rarely. You mean to tell me they haven't sat around discussing the next big thing, and they couldn't guess it was 'pyramids' this time? And not something unusual about the pyramids, but the same question as always, 'who and how'... when you could RV where the next spectacular tomb is hiding, or the hall of records, or... ; and then just go there, finance a dig and prove your method works.

Well Basiago is running for president in 2016 on the basis that he was remote viewed as a future president, along with Clinton and Obama. I'm not sure the date was definitely 2016 - he might get another chance later on. He is under no illusions that something major is going to have to happen between now and then. He mentioned the event of half of congress being outed as CIA agents. The doubtful part of that statement is the outing, for that many agents of someone seems highly likely.

Regarding the lottery idea, it is often noted that using 'paranormal' powers for personal gain is a big no no. Basiago also says that Nixon was removed because he was trying to clean up the mess left by time-travel billionaires.

First off, that 'he is under no illusions that something major is going to happen between now and 2016' thing is a pretty easy guess. Frankly, I'd be really surprised if 'nothing major' happened in the next two years... :rolleyes:

That whole 'using paranormal powers for personal gain is a big no-no' is BS, frankly. You could give the money to a very worthy charity, not use it to buy BMWs and $5000 watches... and I have heard of RVers who use it to work the stock market, probably with varying results.

Okay, if you don't want to RV the lottery, how about helping with the 1000s of children who go missing every year? That's not 'future' based and is unlike predicting the future and then claiming if you're wrong that it must have been a different time line you were seeing... there's literally hundreds of uses for something like RV that don't depend on excuses or vague hints that money is sinful.

And regarding this quote from Harley Hawkins:

Quote Jan 22:

Part of that announcement will happen on this Facebook page, right here.

There will be an announcement that will change everything, and it will happen in February. You will read about it here, and elsewhere.

Quote Feb 11

There is still a lot of activity behind the scenes, including disagreement, angry emails, wonder, amazement, implied threats, international phone calls,..., you name it, it is there.

And then this is the big one:
Quote Feb 15

What I need now is some sleep. I have been on the phone all night with people in the U.K., India, South Africa, and elsewhere, all involved with the upcoming announcement. From the very beginning, the anticipated date of the announcement was 28 February 2014. But there were some uncertainties due to the international nature of the issues involved, so we held off releasing the date. It was wise we did that. Nothing can stop the announcement, but the date involved a lot of coordination with various parties. The problem has been further exacerbated due to the fact that the announcement involves a location which at the present time is not entirely stable politically. Also, shipping of critical materials was involved, and one shipment turned out to have been corrupted, apparently while in transit. This is now being addressed.

After lots of discussion with people all over the world who are involved one way or another, we are now expecting the announcement to happen in mid-March, about two weeks later than originally anticipated.

It turns out that this incredible bit of hyperbole was about how the Amazon DVD production had been 'corrupted' mysteriously (stopped playing after a certain time frame) and he had to talk to people all over the world getting it straightened out because it turned out 'Amazon's people are all over the world'.

THAT was the big global hoo-doo; not some big revelation coordinated with dozens of people about the big RV project, but just about the DVD. And he wonders why people were upset... now he's blaming it on his own bad and amateurish PR efforts, and oh woe-is-me, the Hawaiian RV guild is about to 'disappear forever' because they don't have any money either. Both Dick and Daz are broke and have to find other ways to make a living, perhaps 'manual labor' (!)... that Veritas interview just went on and on and on with the excuses. It was pitiful.

[GuyFox]

Secret CIA Psychic Lab Experiments with Uri Geller at Stanford University - FEATURE FILM

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Geller's RV results from about 1972 were no less impressive than in the recent Farsight film.
SRI, and others, like Andrija Puharick said Geller's abilities were genuine.
Some tests (not all) were Double-blind.

As a promoter, Uri Geller, is second-to-none, and he even was driven to "cheat" at times to keep his audience entertained

[Snookie]

After listening to both parts of the interview, I feel that Courtney realized he oversold the announcement. He explained how the 3 letter agencies f'd with him after he appeared on C2C several years ago relative to the Hale Bop comet, and how he strongly suspects were involved "from Ft. Mead" on his FB page with this announcement as well. Neither of these surprises me.

[araucaria]

and how he strongly suspects were involved "from Ft. Mead" on his FB page with this announcement as well.

Yes, but what he needs to understand is why he got an open-minded yet still globally negative reaction on Avalon.In the second hour with Mel, he sounded very wet behind the ears with regard to all the stuff we handle on a routine basis. He seems to think he is ahead of the field, but that is only because he is so far behind. I keep coming back to the pyramids as a choice of subject of investigation. It is a very small piece in the puzzle and for someone to make such a great deal out of it is extremely underwhelming. This has nothing to do with three-letter agencies.

[Operator]

Yes, but what he needs to understand is why he got an open-minded yet still globally negative reaction on Avalon.In the second hour with Mel, he sounded very wet behind the ears with regard to all the stuff we handle on a routine basis. He seems to think he is ahead of the field, but that is only because he is so far behind.

Well, I didn't listen to that 2nd hour and also didn't see the full documentary on DVD but it appears to me that building a
pyramid solely to keep the prisoners busy is ridiculous. Especially when he goes on that a special race was bred to cut
the stones from the quarry because that is such a toxic job. Why go through all this trouble while in the end the pyramid
would have no function at all? I think that to reveal the ultimate function of the pyramids could be groundbreaking and
perhaps a turning point in history of mankind ... did anything like this happen?

[GuyFox]

Joseph P Farrell may have discerned the true purpose of the Great Pyramid, using his intuition and research - he does not claim to be a Remote Viewer:

Nasa's Nazis & the Great Pyramid Weapon System

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[frozen alchemy]

Thanks GuyFox, for posting that interview link. That was one of the most fascinating discussions I've heard in a long time; it also led me to another one with Joseph Farrell and Richard Dolan that was equally amazing. :)

[araucaria]

Joseph P Farrell may have discerned the true purpose of the Great Pyramid]
He may well have done. But it is just one more theory that may even enjoy its fifteen minutes of mainstream fame. But it will take more than that to prove Operator correct:



I think that to reveal the ultimate function of the pyramids could be groundbreaking and
perhaps a turning point in history of mankind

In my opinion, the pyramids are (almost literally) the hardest ground to break that one can think of. There are already so many theories out there that the truth has very likely already been uncovered at least once… and promptly buried under the mountain of pyramidology. I think this is the very opposite of any real turning point in the history of mankind. The actual turning point will probably go unnoticed until it is seen in our rearview mirror – much as Christmas celebrates the turning point of the solstice which occurred several days earlier, or the turn of the tide is noticed only when the slack water period is over. This is what Courtney Brown claimed for his Ides of March, but his announcement is not going to do that. A turning point is where a moving object momentarily reaches zero speed – an event-driven non-event: an ‘unannouncement’ as Alice would say.

[greybeard]

David Sereda & Pyramid Technology will blow your mind!
David Sereda is back to tell us of his latest findings about the Giza Plateau and quantum entanglement. Two objects that are quantum-entangled communicate with one another in an unknown, instantaneous manner that Einstein called 'spooky action at a distance.' It has recently been discovered that this doesn't just apply to subatomic particles. Two diamonds have been entangled, and not only that, they weren't brought together at all, but rather encoded with identical vibrations.

This implies the possible existence of a powerful new tool, and here David Sereda makes the leap that the structures on the Giza Plateau might actually BE such a tool, capable of connecting us to distant parts of the universe in a whole new way.

Quantum entanglement occurs when particles such as photons, electrons, molecules as large as buckyballs, and even small diamonds interact physically and then become separated; the type of interaction is such that each resulting member of a pair is properly described by the same quantum mechanical description (state), which is indefinite in terms of important factors such as position, momentum, spin, polarization, etc.

David Sereda's first aspiration in life was to become an astronaut. In 1968, David and a friend witnessed a UFO along with hundreds of other witnesses. After this experience, David grew up as a UFO enthusiast never living in doubt of the phenomena that has swept the world since the Roswell incident in 1947. His interest in space, religion, philosophy, astronomy and science led him on his career in related fields. He has worked deeply in high technology, on environmental and humanitarian issues and as a professional photographer for over 20 years. He has studied world religion, science, physics and paranormal psychology for over 25 years. Other interests include "alternative" energy, propulsion, and anti-gravity. Over the years, David Sereda branched out into quantum vibration jewelry and harmonic resonances.
In 2013 , David's lectures have been focused on the new technology he extracted from the math in the Great Pyramid of Egypt as a giant crystal oscillator that allows for faster than light communication with star gate systems! He will also share his numerous experiences with alien contact.
**Talk about FROM HERE TO ANDRAMEDA**
David is also the director of the 240 minutes documentary entitled : "FROM HERE TO ANDRAMEDA"
From Here To Andromeda opens with the possibility that humanity may not survive due to Global Warming, an ensuing Ice Age or Mass Extinction. The question is, "Why hasn't humanity embraced sustainable technologies like Solar, Wind, and Helium-3 Fusion to beat Global Warming?" Why are the oil companies holding us hostage? Why hasn't all of humanity awakened and taken measures to ensure our survival? Find out why so many UFOs are suddenly appearing all over the world. Are they here to teach us? Are they here to help humanity make a quantum leap?
Website correction main site is www.LightStreamTechnologies.com




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnKOSNv_4zQ

[Circe]

Might be of interest.
Courtney Brown on an amazing Remote Viewing Project – the Great Pyramid at Giza w/ Howard Hughes.
http://theunexplained.tv/paranormal-podcasts/edition-153-courtney-brown-special

[dazsmith]

HI guys,
my name is Daz Smith I was a participant in this project - one of many. I'm a long time remote viewer and would be happy to answer any sensible questions on this project and about remote viewing in general.

[Billy]

HI guys,
my name is Daz Smith I was a participant in this project - one of many. I'm a long time remote viewer and would be happy to answer any sensible questions on this project and about remote viewing in general.

Welcome Daz, It is Great to have you on board. please share.

I am looking forward to your input. You can use the "insert link" icon (The blue and round one) above in the reply box to share any relevant websites. :yo:

[Snowflower]

Hello Daz. I'm not sure what you would classify as sensible.

What was your level of participation?

If you have read this thread, then you will have realized that quite a few of us were not happy with the level of hype and build up of anticipation compared to the actual subject of the announcement. Most of us are proponents of remote viewing as a whole, but do not necessarily see it as an infallible source of information. It is simply one more source to add to others as we try to puzzle out mysteries.

My personal reaction was deep disappointment and another notch in my cynicism meter. I desire a massive change in the world so much I ache for it, but saw absolutely no way that Courtney's "announcement" would affect any change whatsoever. For one thing, he told us nothing new. We on Avalon already knew that the pyramids were built using energy to move stone blocks and most of us just accept alien involvement as a given.

What can you tell us about the project that would be new information?

[dazsmith]

What was your level of participation?

Hi, OK lets start with a quick buo so you know a little about me.
Im 44 and form the UK. Have been solely focusiiing my intuitive ability using CRV or controlled remote viewing (which was a military trained remote viewing technique) since 1997. Over this time I have got better/more accuarte and am an accurate remote viewer that works alot of projects for people. For about the last 6-7 years I have also participated in public remote viewing demonstration projects for Courtney Brown and the Farsight Institute. I have written three books of the subject, I have studies and read the 93,000 pages of FOIA release information form the CIA on its remote viewing projects, I have one of the largest remote viewing websites and I also publish a free remote viewing magazine in digital and full color print. I try to give as much away as I can for free on this subject.

First I would like to say upfront so we are all clear. remote viewing is not 100% accurate - no remote viewer is. There is generally always an element of noise in the process - this cannot yet be fully eliminated because even with over 30 years of scientific research and over $20M in funding the U.S government an scientific labs could not find the mechanism behind Remote viewing - I.e we still do not know how it works, we only have theories.

Now accuracy - im probably hovering at about 70+% accurate, 70+% of the time at the moment and sometimes Im more accurate and have been at 95%= at times. Please be aware that anything can knock accuracy of remote viewing:

bad target selection
stress, boredom, life problems/issues
Project management
Overlay - (tasker, contributor, skeptical, audience, environment, pressure)
Solar, others
LST (local Sidreal time)
probably others.


Ok sorry but I need to make a few things clear and now back to the first question.


What was your level of participation?
My level of participation was solely as a remote viewer. I had a pretty uninformative email form courtney saying something like: Start the next project. I then did my RV thing on paper, then later on camera for him. At no time was any information given to me/us on what the project was about - we worked it what we call BLIND. Other than this there is no communication until the project is finished other than the occasional email form courtney telling us to move onto the next part of the project or to elaborate page6 of session 1 on camera for him - this type of thing.


If you have read this thread, then you will have realized that quite a few of us were not happy with the level of hype and build up of anticipation compared to the actual subject of the announcement.
Agreed, Dick and I also raised this with Courtney. this is not an excuse but this RV on video thing is pretty much new to all of us, this is not our day jobs and we are doing the best we can, and Yes Courtney has made mistakes. Mainly due to his boundless enthusiasm for the subject. In all my years of Rv talking to the top people, psychics spies, intel agents, remote viewers and all round nut jobs - courtney is one of the fairest, sincere and most honest that I have met, but he is human and makes mistakes.


Most of us are proponents of remote viewing as a whole, but do not necessarily see it as an infallible source of information.
It is not - never will be. Saying this I am over a period of many years for public and private projects deemed to be very accurate most of the time. testimonials form my website show this. I also run a small consultancy whereby if I dont give you the answer you want information on then you dont pay - i have not yet had a client not pay.
So yes, remote viewing is not infallible - but good remote viewers with consistent track records, and good feedback to gauge against do give a very good picture.
BUT, we all need to be clear upfront on this and the fact that there is noise in the process.


It is simply one more source to add to others as we try to puzzle out mysteries.
Yes, but one that can (but not always) come with a certain level of consistency and surety of accuracy (see above).


My personal reaction was deep disappointment and another notch in my cynicism meter. I desire a massive change in the world so much I ache for it, but saw absolutely no way that Courtney's "announcement" would affect any change whatsoever.

I understand this - and I said this to courtney when he started marketing - that for many like myself who have investigated the pyramids - this was not new information, inbteresting and additional information - yes, but no life changing. I have seen some comments form some people though that have been impacted this way by courtney video and the data, but I share your comments and maybe over time projects like this will affect that change. Look at it this way - both you and I did not agree nor like how this was marketed. The last project courtney did (Atlantis) only got a few hundred Youtube plays/views - this one, controversial though it was, has over 48,000 views and courtney now has an increases contact list of tens of thousands - its a start of change. Could it have been done better - without doubt, courtney now realizes this. We all make mistakes - I know I do.


For one thing, he told us nothing new. We on Avalon already knew that the pyramids were built using energy to move stone blocks and most of us just accept alien involvement as a given.
Well I do disagree with you here. He has also confirmed this with you using intuitives under a scientifically tested BLIND protocol to also confirm what you thought you knew. This means that we as intuitives had no information, no idea what the target was - period. The data we gave could ONLY be form intuition and form no other means or bias. This tells you something new. Its not amazing but it is confirmation, under scientifically blind protocols from two intuitives with recorded track records of accuracy.
I do understand you maybe want more - but dont we all :)


What can you tell us about the project that would be new information?
I dont know what would you like to know?
All I can comment on is MY data I produced. as you can see in my Rv sessions I dont outright even mention aliens - so I could not deny nor confirm these in my Rv data. I had lots of information on travellers from a vast distance away that travelled in ships, traveling om high-tech wave tech etc, etc - but ET/aliens - maybe - I couldn't be sure, they could just have well been advanced people from Atlantis or something - I cant say.

This would have needed more work , rv sessions and so on to explore - but again we are all doing this part time, trying our best to get this type of information out there, whilst holding down jobs, lives and the rest.

All the best...
Daz Smith

[Snowflower]

Thank you for responding in such depth, Daz.

[Gardener]

Hi Daz, and welcome, thank you for taking the time to help us understand this process.
I have a general question, I will try to formulate it.

From your experience, are there palces/targets which are 'out of bounds' for whatever reason?

[Wind]

Welcome to the forum, Daz. I think that the Giza project was quite interesting no matter the fuss and it was intriguing to see you and Dick working. Here is the latest comic which Courtney shared via his newsletter.

http://www.farsight.org/Vic_Guiza/farsightcomicstrip13.jpg

[Hervé]

[...]
For one thing, he told us nothing new. We on Avalon already knew that the pyramids were built using energy to move stone blocks and most of us just accept alien involvement as a given.Well I do disagree with you here. He has also confirmed this with you using intuitives under a scientifically tested BLIND protocol to also confirm what you thought you knew. This means that we as intuitives had no information, no idea what the target was - period. The data we gave could ONLY be form intuition and form no other means or bias. This tells you something new. Its not amazing but it is confirmation, under scientifically blind protocols from two intuitives with recorded track records of accuracy.
I do understand you maybe want more - but dont we all :)

[...]
Daz Smith

Hello Daz!

And welcome to Project Avalon!

Are you ever brave to jump in the arena... at least you are not "bare handed" :)

OK, here is my beef with the way Courtney set up the advertising campaign:


Me think this guy is walking beside his shoes or else he's gone off his trolleys...

Wait...

It's probably both! ... along with pulling the blankets all to himself!

I was expecting something scientific with incontrovertible proofs à la Ingo Swann with his Jupiter (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=804158&viewfull=1#post804158) and Moon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68916-Don-t-go-into-the-light-Discussion-thread&p=803362&viewfull=1#post803362) visits. Actually, it's with those experiments (the "drivels" I posted earlier somewhere) that the turning point for humanity took place. Now, we only need to place a FOIA on their security records with those ETs who spotted him on the Moon for the date and time his body was doodling and talking on Earth.

Because it's not difficult to set up a controlled experiment whereby both remote viewer(s) and remote-viewed(s) can be monitored synchronously and simultaneously...

Because:



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[...] Note that none of the other orbs show any movement at all.

I regard this as conclusive evidence that this is not a speck of dust or a pollen particle blowing in the wind. It's an important photo, which seems to show self-determined movement.

http://projectavalon.net/moving_orb_enlarged.jpg

Check this from Simon Parkes:


Hi,
Spot On !
The orbs are in fact not all one and the same ! Different groups use them, some orbs from different groups do the same thing. The word sentinel means a lot. Orbs can look like energy balls, but not to get confused with small ball-like orbs of light -- which range from a ping pong ball to a grapefruit -- these are RV's coming into this dimension. the orbs I think you are writing about are larger, many crop circles are made by them.
Simon.

... or how Ingo Swann got spotted while checking out the "dark" side of the Moon...

... and:


the proof lies in the report on the Japanese experiments of the most perfectly darkened room ever, in all radiative ways..and then remote viewed by psychics to read a placard on one wall.

when the remote viewers were in this test room, the sensors would take in an increased average of 15,000 photons of light.

I believe it was David Wilcox, in his new book and lecture, that presented this corroborative evidence.

So, the aether sonar ping from the pulsed xenon gas of the flash.... and thus the emitted return light of the local flow through (both ways) wormholes.

So, what's so difficult about setting up a scientifically controlled experiment along these lines? Especially by someone with "scientific" (title approved: Ph. D.) credence?

... WTF!?!


:rant:


Edit: I Saw Selene's post after posting the above and, myaoowww, do I ever agree! Now I am cleaning my screen...




Other posts you might want to have a peek at:

Post # 67 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=789198&viewfull=1#post789198)

Post # 792 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=804158&viewfull=1#post804158)

Post # 1057 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=809222&viewfull=1#post809222)

Post # 1235 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=809954&viewfull=1#post809954)


That's a small portion of the subject.

Another portion, and a big one, is this one:


Just considering the variety of interpretations given to the fauna, flora and objects encountered in those other states/dimensions/densities...

... you know... ETs, Archons, Djinns, Demons, Tulpas, thought forms, eggregores, Golems, holographic recordings of times past/present/future, hypnotic hallucinations/delusions...

... and the "natural"/programmed inclination is to resort to the "knowledgeable ones"... you know... high priests, gurus, geeks, shamans, sorcerers, medicine wo/men, experts (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69970-The-Expert-how-an-engineer-fits-in-the-corporate-world&p=816217&viewfull=1#post816217)... all under the influence of "human emotions," as depicted by Greek and other mythologies, or, of more or less mischievous "spirits" having their fun with the "incarnated ones"...

... and one may be able to see why "science" was bound to develop as a means of investigation independent from that "spirit" box where everything is possible on a whim... so that some may be able to "think" outside that box.

There is an entrance/exchange point/means though, and the analogy to radio waves is more than apt since that entrance/exchange point/means is by way of electromagnetism:


[...]

... Before we began, he placed some yogurt into a sterilized test tube, inserted two gold electrodes, and turned on the recording chart. I was excited, yet dubious. We began to talk, and the pen wriggled up and down. Then, just as I took in my breath prior to disagreeing with something he’d said, the pen seemed to lurch. But did it really jump, or was I only seeing what I wanted to see?

At one point, while Backster was out of the room, I tried to muster up some anger by thinking of clear-cut forests and the politicians who sanction them, of abused children and their abusers. But the line depicting the electrochemical response of the yogurt remained perfectly flat. Perhaps the yogurt wasn’t interested in me. Losing interest myself, I began to wander around the lab. My eyes fell on a calendar, which, upon closer inspection, turned out to be an advertisement for a shipping company. I felt a sudden surge of anger at the ubiquity of advertising. Then I realized — a spontaneous emotion! I dashed over to the chart, and saw on it a sudden spike apparently corresponding to the moment I'd seen the ad.

When Backster returned, I continued the interview, still excited, and perhaps a little less skeptical."

Now go to the link to read the interview:

http://thesunmagazine.org/archives/1882

If a yoghourt can distinguish/discern and "tell" what's fake or what's "real" and the "telling" can be translated via electromagnetic means...

... it becomes understandable that it's child play for ETs to put up and show one's memories -- short or long, very long -- on a video screen, etc...

Also, if a yoghourt can do it, it becomes possible for "anything" to accurately identify psychopaths... which might be the real reason why "lie detectors" outputs and interpretations are not admissible in courts...

However, things could get complicated if said yoghourt, on the witness-stand, gets "possessed"/influenced by some entity/spirit passing by... or a cell phone tower or any other electromagnetic influence...

What it boils down to, is that there is a 3D wooff and warp of interconnections underlying this whole universe and it's variously labelled as "life," "source," "ether," "morphogenic field," "holographic universe," "source field," etc...


Posted on April 4, 2014 (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/scientology-and-presentiment/) by martyrathbun09 (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/author/martyrathbun09/)
More than thirty years of research has demonstrated rather conclusively that the average human being when connected to a galvanic skin response detection device (generic name for a Hubbard Electro-psychometer) routinely registers presentiment of about five seconds. That is, the meter reads on average 5 second prior to the subject being provided with a concept to respond to. This research has been performed on people taken off the street, with no previous psychic or spiritual training or study. It has been conducted applying exacting scientific standards.Anyway... a big drum of worms, ain't it!

... which adds to the "boredom" factor since when the hard copy of the assignment arrives, it's already "old news" to the percipient (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Percipient&redirect=no) :(

[Hervé]

[...]
http://www.farsight.org/Vic_Guiza/farsightcomicstrip13.jpg

Apparently, a whole book came out of that "Grey Dude" and n-tuplets:




[...]
Quote
23 November 1996
Q: (T) Is the book Courtney Brown wrote, "Cosmic Voyage," concerning the Martian population...
A: It is true that there are underground bases on Mars, but they are Orion STS.
Q: (T) Are there Martians as portrayed by Courtney Brown?
A: Not exactly. He is portraying the Orion STS as the Martians.
Q: (T) Is Courtney Brown a government disinformation agent?
A: More as an "agent provocateur."
Q: (T) Is he working for the government?
A: Not directly, and remember, the government is not one entity.
Q: (L) Who is primarily backing Courtney Brown?
A: Rockefeller group.
Q: (L) And, is Mike Lindemann and company part of this Rockefeller group at this time?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Linda Howe?
A: No.
Q: (T) Did Courtney actually do remote viewing to obtain the information in the book?
A: Not really. Not needed.
Q: (T) Does this mean that the whole story is concocted on his part?
A: Semi. Elements of it are factual.
Q: (T) Yes. I could see that there were factual elements. I could also see that there was a LOT that was questionable. that conflicts with EVERYTHING else that has come out from other researchers. This is all totally twisted and different.
A: Close.
Q: (T) Is Courtney able to do remote viewing?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) But he did not use it with this book?
A: No.
Q: (T) So, the book was made up the way it is. It is a story. Some factual information, some invented information, some pure BS thrown in to fluff it out. So, the book is NOT an account of work that has come from remote viewing sessions?
A: No, but not needed.
Q: (L) You have said twice that remote viewing was not "needed." Where did he get his information?
A: Secret sources. Agents of the nation "of the third eye."
Q: (J) What or who - is the "Nation of the Third Eye?"
A: Terran civilization under the surface.
Q: (L) Now, wait a minute. I remember that when they said the Aryans were brought from Kantek, and that they were "sturdier," or something like that, and I remarked that it seemed that they would be less sturdy - and the C's answered "on the surface." Now, that has always bothered me. I don't think they meant "surface appearances." Have the Aryans been glorified as the "master race" because they are more suited to living underground?
A: Close. All types there are "Aryan."
Q: (L) Okay, is this a Terran underground civilization that has been 'managed' by Orions, or did it develop on its own?
A: One at a time.
Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are these "managers" Orions from other densities?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) I don't understand. Are there some that are 4th and some that are 3rd?
A: The human types there are "bi-density."
Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!
A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can "visit" 3rd density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to "regenerate."
Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as long as they want in any density?
A: In 4th and 3rd.
Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease on either density?
A: Well, not with "equal ease," because 4th density is easier, naturally.
Q: (T) So, the information Courtney Brown was given to write this quasi fiction book, is about the Aryans and not about the Martians?
A: "Martians" is easier to understand for the less well-informed, not to mention any discussion of the densities!
Q: (T) Absolutely. Martians are easier to accept. A lot easier to understand than densities! (L) Okay, Third Eye. What is this?
A: That is what they call themselves when pressed for an explanation by surface types, such as yourselves. They were the inspiration for Masonic lore and Illuminati, too.
Q: (L) Does this "Third Eye" designation have a connotation of third eye abilities as we understand them?
A: Psychic.
Q: (T) Does Courtney know he has been had?
A: He has not been "had." He is under the employ of those who pull the levers, so to speak.
Q: (L) You said "pull the levers." Is Courtney Brown a robot, Greenbaumed, mind-controlled, implanted, or any or all of the above? (T) Or is he just foolish?
A: No. Not so foolish, he does not worry about paying the power bill. As Forest Gump said: "Stupid is as stupid does."
Q: (L) Are you implying that I am foolish or stupid because I DO worry about paying the power bill?
A: No, we are not implying that you are stupid, or foolish, for that matter... But, Courtney Brown is not either. Who is he hurting? And, he has hit the jackpot with this one. Knowledge can be procured by reading literature, then analyzing it.
Q: (T) Is the time table that he has given correct?
A: Close.
Q: (T) So, the powers that be are going to follow this time table and present the Aryans as Martians?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are the Aryans going to present themselves as Martians?
A: Initially. In order for the Terrans to get used to the idea of EBEs.
Q: (T) But, they are not the good guys. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
A: Some of the "good guys" are identical in appearance.
Q: (T) Is this a subterfuge on the part of the Aryans so that they can slide in quietly and take over?
A: No, they do not need that at all. It is a way for the "government" to introduce everyone to the new reality of the existence of intelligent life all over the place, not just here.
Q: (T) So, they have their own agenda, but it is not what Courtney presented in the book.
A: It does not matter. The book is a somewhat altered "New Reality 101."

End Quote
[...]

That would be another "hit" for the "C's"!

[dazsmith]

Gardener,

From your experience, are there places/targets which are 'out of bounds' for whatever reason?
Great Question.
No not that I have experienced - but as remote viewers we all bring our own baggage to the party. For example if you as a viewer believe it wrong to access the mind of people due to religious or other reasons then you will find it hard to do so - we seem to have the ability to stop/hinder ourselves internally by societal and life time baggage.

Now, saying this some target are very hard to do. for example:

any target that is only letters and numbers - because these are concepts and there are no physical properties to them - for example how would you describe a number 5, it has no texture, smell, colour, taste and so on.
Future based targets - it appears that just looking at the future changes that future, which can and does make the viewing then inaccurate (at times).


Generally though a remote viewer can go anywhere in time and space and describe what they see. The problem is you have to have sufficient feedback to be able to guage if the Remote viewer is presenting accurate data - so, some targets with very little actual feedback are very bad Rv targets to try to do.

does this help?

All the best...
Daz

[Billy]

Future based targets - it appears that just looking at the future changes that future,

does this help?

All the best...
Daz

Yes this helped, Thank you, I agree with this concept, can you please expand and share any experiences when attempting to view the future.

If looking at the future can change that future.

What do you think could be the potential outcome if a collective remote viewed a future together.

peace

[dazsmith]

What do you think could be the potential outcome if a collective remote viewed a future together.

I just dont know - we did some project trying to look at the future here:http://www.farsight.org/demo/Multiple_Universes/Multiple_Universes_Experiment.html
The amazing thing with this project was that we as remote viewers did the targets BEFORE the targets events occurred and also BEFORE they were then chosen as targets?
Yet, we did some with 'some' accuracy. My personal accuracy was down for this range of targets but I did get a couple of fantastic hits.

So we did our rv - when we did so the target events had not yet occurred - they then occurred and some weeks later by a random process a person chooses what will be target - yet when the Rv data is examined most fits the target event -that hadnt even occured when the viewing was done? TBH it perplexes me :)

To be honest we are still groping in the dark with all this. The best fit for what is happening in the holographic theory, quantum universe theory's, But we still have along way to go.

When the U.S military tried predicting future targets they only managed a 13% accuracy. we are better now a days but the accuracy is not as good as now/past based targets. It seems like IF i Rv and tell you who will win the superbowl in 2014, then because this info is out there-it may be acted upon and this little changes may change the future - kind of like the butterfly effect.

All the best..
daz

[Operator]

Well apparently the mainstream scientists know it all better ... here's a new amazing suggested solution :rolleyes:



http://images0.tcdn.nl/reiskrant/article22348012.ece/BINARY/q/800px-Khafre_South_and_Khufu_pyrs.jpg

Dutch unravel mystery pyramid builders
AMSTERDAM -

Scientists from the University of Amsterdam (UvA) have discovered how the ancient Egyptians were able to drag huge stone blocks quickly through
the desert to build pyramids and statues.

According to the physicists, the pyramid builders dragged the heavy stones over wet sand. They did this using sleds. The outcome of the research is
published in the journal Physical Review Letters .


"Proper sand humidity"

Experiments of the Amsterdam physicists showed that the required pulling force is reduced by half if the "right sand humidity" is found.
The work could therefore also be done with half the people .

There is also evidence that the ancient Egyptians actually applied this trick. On a wall drawing in the tomb of Djehoetihotep it shows how
a person on the front of a transport sled drops water in front of the nose, while it is pulled across the desert sands.

Translated with Google and manually adapted to increase readability
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/22577171/__Piramidetruc_ontrafeld__.html

Maybe one day we will learn how Santa flies with his reindeer and sled from the north pole ... :twitch:

[Harley]

HA HA HA!!

(Sorry Operator. That's all I could muster)

:)

[CD7]

Thankyou Dazsmith for your participation!...its always better to get it straight from the horses mouth, very rare these dayz!



I have not read every post here, so if brought up again-oh well :P


In regards to remote viewing perhaps from a different aspect then has been discussed...


Im just going to say that ALL of our beliefs, ideas, knowledge- have come from Outside sources...meaning no one I know ACTUALLY REMEMBERS BEFORE BIRTH, so to me ALL information is subject to scrutiny as we have no way of verifying what we are being told since we have no recollection....(regarding human origins/religion)--the whole kit and caboodle


So in a sense remote viewing is another source for 'verifying' truth, origins (according to CB you and others)...but this is a personal experience so far with select individuals as yourself, so to me everyone is still taking information at Face Value from some other source and not experiencing it on their own---knowing it on their own.


My real question is.....is it a future goal to have people learn experience remote viewing on their own and know it for themselves?...or are we still at the hands of others telling us How, Why, What, Where Is with this endeavor?

[CD7]

LOL.... and the thread goes silent. Yah don't say!!! Ill be expecting a corny answer in 24 hours...

This subject is never touched yet LOSS OF MEMORY is one of the MOST important questions for ALL of humanity.

Who the hell wants us to Re-member Anything....

[dazsmith]

CD7,

My real question is.....is it a future goal to have people learn experience remote viewing on their own and know it for themselves?...or are we still at the hands of others telling us How, Why, What, Where Is with this endeavor?

ANYONE and EVERYONE has the ability to use intuition and hence remote viewing. BUT with all things in life some of us have more natural ability than others, some build ability through dedication and practice.
But it is best if experienced for yourself like most things in life - why not give it a go?

I dont know if you have heard this but during the military and science program that lasted 23 years, they scientists got fed up with having to do dog and pony show demos day in and day out, so what they did in the end was they got the person asking 'does this really work', and 'show us' to be the one in the demo doing the RV - this worked every time apparently, because even with congressional oversight, human use oversight, and numerous scientific oversight committees, and changes of hands between many different intel agencies and mechanisms - the funding always came through for over 23 years.

This ability is there for us all - we all seem to be interconnected by some kind of force in the universe, that binds us, that allows instantaneous transfer information, outside of time itself. Only one thing stops or hinders this - a closed mind and even this sometimes shows chinks in its Armour.

Does this help?

Daz

[TODD & NORA]

..........

[Gardener]

I for one really appreciate your input Daz and what strikes me is the balanced view point you share. From my own personal experience (without direction) i have experienced many spontaneous remote views. Pinning this down with rules might affect the outcome but I guess to try to prove something there has to be a method.

Gosh the more we try the harder it gets and maybe that is the monkey mind analysing all input. Also being 'measured' so to speak does have an effect. I can't help but think this attriubute for remote viewing, being outside time and space, has its own rules which defy measurement. I would like to think that one day we will understand it much better.

I hold to the idea of the numinous network, access across time and space, so the mechanism is there for sure, but back to 'rules' (universal ones) like a moral compas, it still seems appropriate to me that whilst playing this hieros gamos, there are rules which directly affect our evolution. So I suppose that harks back to your mention of restrictive belief systems maybe. Or is it simply a matter of what you will do with the information, which also could be good reason to be protected from the mal practice of indescreet remote viewers.

Yes I think to not remember is the default, a clean slate, and our experience and work to retrieve the information is part of the full awakening process. Otherwise we might be overly influenced by all the crap we have given and recieved over and over. Sheesh perish the thought.....Lots to earn.

[TODD & NORA]

..........

[CD7]

ANYONE and EVERYONE has the ability to use intuition and hence remote viewing. BUT with all things in life some of us have more natural ability than others, some build ability through dedication and practice.
But it is best if experienced for yourself like most things in life - why not give it a go?



Yes having people experience for themselves would ofcourse be much better then it being relayed from someone else....This culture/society does not cultivate such endeavors so its very difficult to have others participating in 'remote viewing' techniques. I can only 'guess' tht this is somewhat similar to meditation techniques and art, the more you practice the better you become. Personally I think there would be MANY MORE artists around if it wasn't stamped out early on...ive worked in education, they stamp out creativity right away...kindergarteners LOVE to draw pictures!, but this exercise is taken out of the educational experience year by year! I would love to give remote viewing a go....know any places I can hang out and do it? LOL--- Ive had some of the most awe inspiring experiences with meditation...im sure this technique can result in some interesting experiences as well.



I dont know if you have heard this but during the military and science program that lasted 23 years, they scientists got fed up with having to do dog and pony show demos day in and day out, so what they did in the end was they got the person asking 'does this really work', and 'show us' to be the one in the demo doing the RV - this worked every time apparently, because even with congressional oversight, human use oversight, and numerous scientific oversight committees, and changes of hands between many different intel agencies and mechanisms - the funding always came through for over 23 years.


This ability is there for us all - we all seem to be interconnected by some kind of force in the universe, that binds us, that allows instantaneous transfer information, outside of time itself. Only one thing stops or hinders this - a closed mind and even this sometimes shows chinks in its Armour.

Does this help?

Daz


Yes I understand...there is definitely a connection underneath the surface beyond time/space...I definitely could see the benefit from all of us cultivating this very important aspect that speaks to the invisible side that is hardly recognized by any of us...Yes that helps Daz Thankyou! :)

[HaulinBananas]

I have not read every post here, so if brought up again-oh well :P


In regards to remote viewing perhaps from a different aspect then has been discussed...


Im just going to say that ALL of our beliefs, ideas, knowledge- have come from Outside sources...meaning no one I know ACTUALLY REMEMBERS BEFORE BIRTH, so to me ALL information is subject to scrutiny as we have no way of verifying what we are being told since we have no recollection....(regarding human origins/religion)--the whole kit and caboodle


So in a sense remote viewing is another source for 'verifying' truth, origins (according to CB you and others)...but this is a personal experience so far with select individuals as yourself, so to me everyone is still taking information at Face Value from some other source and not experiencing it on their own---knowing it on their own.


My real question is.....is it a future goal to have people learn experience remote viewing on their own and know it for themselves?...or are we still at the hands of others telling us How, Why, What, Where Is with this endeavor?

I don't personally know anyone who "ACTUALLY REMEMBERS BEFORE BIRTH" either, but some of the people who are "out of the box thinkers" and have done YouTube videos or written books, or sell dvd lectures have mentioned that they have access to their previous memories. In other places I've read that previous memories are erased because we are supposed to be evolving or improving in *this* lifetime and it would be distracting to remember hundreds or thousands of previous husbands, wives, children, in-laws, friends, or neighbors - and famines or wars or loss or riches and fame, etc.

Jim Humble and George Kavassilas are two people who have mentioned they remember. They seem to have a bigger picture point of view of humanity and this present time and events.

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In this talk by Jim Humble he spans ages of time, and apparently the galaxy. Interestingly, he also talks about the building of the pyramid - I think it was the Giza pyramid - the method is interesting. One thing I have wondered after listening to his talk is what his previous incarnations looked like. What kind of body?

George Kavassilas has mentioned throughout his various podcast interviews or dvd lectures (the older ones are no longer available on his website for sale) that he remembers who he was. I think one of the previous incarnations was around the pyramids, but don't have time to sit for hours to watch the dvds to pinpoint the information.

There are probably other people who do remember previous incarnations without having to have help accessing the information ala Dolores Cannon or other people who use a type of hypnotic regression. But, as you said, I don't know any personally.

I've been exploring and learning basic remote viewing and with just the few times I've been given a target have been amazed and pleased that this is really do-able. (people in Southern California should check out some of the Meetups)

Hopefully more and more people will learn that we "are more than our physical bodies" (per Robert Monroe) and Remote Viewing is just one way to experience knowledge for one's self. There are many ways - dowsing is the easiest and fastest - so far OBE is kind of hard for me, but seems like the most interesting method of all.

I really enjoyed the dvd The Great Pyramid of Giza - The Mystery Solved. It was a bit intimidating to see the method since I am learning remote viewing in a way there is a lot of filling out of forms, but I guess all that paperwork is to keep the left brain busy. I still have jumped to what is called AOL, Analytical Over Lay, where I want to solve or interpret right off what I am *looking at*. One thing that really impressed me while I watched the dvd was the way both of you RV'ers kept saying "I feel . . . " instead of "I see . . .". It was riveting to watch the drawings and verbal descriptions unfold. I don't know if this method of using a blank board is the Courtney Brown method, or a method used by advanced remote viewers, but it was fascinating to see how it worked.

With regard to recent news articles, the headlines to the articles generally state that it has been discovered how the pyramids were built. But when you read the article all it shows is how a big *statue* was moved. There is no description of pyramid building. And, sliding a big statue across wetted down sand on a flat surface doesn't explain how blocks were lifted. Since some people only read a headline, they will remain firmly seated in their beliefs that ancient megalithic structures were built with ropes and logs and copper tools and lots of people pulling and pushing.

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You're the bomb, Daz...hey, is your spidey sense picking up something big brewing in the ethers about to physically manifest? West coast earthquake adjacent to the U.S. is among the low hanging fruit this month. Things aren't looking too chipper in Ukraine at the moment, so perhaps its a geopolitical event rather than geophysical..."we'll see", said the Zen master, after another round of martinis, of course.

Alas I have to be totally honest, my spontaneous intuition has atrophied over the years due to my singular pursuit of remote viewing training. And as all my remote viewing projects are blind I cant answer this question until I get tasked a project like this.

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I really enjoyed the dvd The Great Pyramid of Giza - The Mystery Solved. It was a bit intimidating to see the method since I am learning remote viewing in a way there is a lot of filling out of forms, but I guess all that paperwork is to keep the left brain busy. I still have jumped to what is called AOL, Analytical Over Lay, where I want to solve or interpret right off what I am *looking at*. One thing that really impressed me while I watched the dvd was the way both of you RV'ers kept saying "I feel . . . " instead of "I see . . .". It was riveting to watch the drawings and verbal descriptions unfold. I don't know if this method of using a blank board is the Courtney Brown method, or a method used by advanced remote viewers, but it was fascinating to see how it worked.

Remote viewing is a bad name for what we do, but its one that has stuck. Most of the impressions we get are very, very subtle, feelings and non physical. We have to learn to trust these, and this i am afraid takes time.
If we do get images and pictures and if these are clear then they are usually imagination jumping in - so we AOL these as possible noise.

Yes, The CRV paperwork is about keeping the brain occupied with a task so that it doesnt start to think about the target, which then starts the imagination, hence creates noise.

The white broad method is something new, viewers dont really do things big and on whiteboards live on camera, which is one of the reasons why Courtney was so enthusiastic about this project and its data, because it was really easy to share exactly how a viewer worked and how the data came through for the first time on camera. It was my first time doing this approach in eighteen years of doing this, and only my second time on camera.


With regard to recent news articles, the headlines to the articles generally state that it has been discovered how the pyramids were built. But when you read the article all it shows is how a big *statue* was moved. There is no description of pyramid building. And, sliding a big statue across wetted down sand on a flat surface doesn't explain how blocks were lifted. Since some people only read a headline, they will remain firmly seated in their beliefs that ancient megalithic structures were built with ropes and logs and copper tools and lots of people pulling and pushing.

I agree, there is just SO much we just do not know about our past and the structures and things within it. At this point all theories have to be considered until we have evidence otherwsie.

thank you.

All the best...
Daz