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chocolate
24th January 2014, 14:21
I am not one to start a new thread, since there are new ones created on the forum constantly. But from my own perspective this presentation covers so many aspects and concepts that are becoming interesting in today's times, that even the more advanced among us would find something new to ponder.
I would have posted it in the Here and Now thread, but this way more people will manage to stumble upon it, perhaps.
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WhiteFeather
24th January 2014, 14:58
Ahh synchronicity,,,,,,Just recently finished reading Carol Bowman's book "Children's past lives". 5 Star book i may add. And also Many Lives Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss. Carol Bowman puts an emphasis on how children remember their past lives at a young age. As children get older, they forget who they were (probably do to programming) and then the proverbial veil is placed back over them.
I'm totally fascinated with this topic on Reincarnation. I think many of us have been here many times over without any doubt.
Before my awakening when i was a young teen, i had quite an interest in reincarnation,,,, which was very weird coming from a strict roman catholic family.
My first book i independently read was by Edgar Cayce on "Reincarnation", this book felt right to me when i read it. My family thought i was strange to read such garbage. My second independent book i read was The Bermuda Triangle. I have an overwhelming fascination in the paranormal field.
Here are two videos i would recommend to this thread enclosed below.
Going listen to your enclosed video tonite. Asquali
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgOBfCrxS3U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWCUjx4nI98
chocolate
24th January 2014, 15:40
I truly appreciate the saying "When you learn how to listen everyone is the Guru". This gives me the excuse to have as many guides as I choose to, no one is excluded.
Many things are said wisely in this presentation, but not literally, which makes it so beautiful.
I hope we can gather around the camp fire (on occasion such as this) and enjoy a tale. It is winter throughout the world on the North half, mostly, so camp fires are a good thing? :)
I was casually working and just decided to play it in the background. One good decision I made today!
Thank you, WhiteFeather. I appreciate the videos and will play them next, although I am one who is partially able to look through the veil.
May all our irritants become pearls at the end.
chocolate
24th January 2014, 16:11
_wgw2SFE8yE there's another take on Reincarnation for all interested
Atlas
24th January 2014, 16:42
A young boy recalls his previous life in India:
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A young girl recalls her previous life in India:
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Two years old Nicola recalled past life memories (watch on Youtube):
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Mandy recalled a past life from the time she was young enough to talk:
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Atlas
24th January 2014, 18:16
Just recently finished reading Carol Bowman's book "Children's past lives". 5 Star book i may add.
https://ia700807.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/32/items/olcovers662/olcovers662-L.zip&file=6621132-L.jpg (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/docs/Childrens%20past%20lives%20%20how%20past%20life%20memories%20affect%20your%20child.pdf)
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chocolate
24th January 2014, 18:32
Thank you, Buares! Good friend :).
Here one can go to some youtube videos of Inelia explaining her childhood adventures of learning how to navigate in our reality on Earth. And probably others.
I think it was actually Bill who did the interview I mentioned:
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My initial intention was to post the video because of its scope of topics, but I also know many people are interested in understanding reincarnation. For me that is a small part out of a vast and interesting theory of understanding [of our true nature].
Unicorn
24th January 2014, 19:04
When i was a young teen, i had quite an interest in reincarnation, which was very weird coming from a strict roman catholic family.
My first book i independently read was by Edgar Cayce on "Reincarnation". My second independent book i read was The Bermuda Triangle.
Same here! BTW, I always thought I had been a native American in a previous life.
But I also think that this kind of memories can be deleted, merged or implanted in our physical containers for any obscure purposes. If we are not free in the physical realm, probably we're not in the spiritual realm, either. "As above, so below". Sorry for this not too romantic view.
chocolate
24th January 2014, 19:33
My view is not romantic at all, Unicorn, and you don't need to be sorry for the way you feel about it. I don't even speak normally with the vocabulary used in the video, but some expressions, widely understood already, are as good as others when it comes to delivering the message.
The facts are that we need to find our way on our own every time. Which means we need to forget in order to participate. Otherwise it is pointless to come here, and just take over the whole game. That is exactly what has happened already with some of those who have come here remembering everything and knowing how to manipulate - they have destroyed the concept, and you and I feel cornered and unable to continue to enjoy the process (on occasion).
For example, I had seen the interview with Tom Campbell half an year ago or more. But at one point during the last few months I managed to come to the same conclusions independently from what I had read about, seen or heard, and those moments were the most precious in my life exactly because I managed to put the puzzle together seemingly on my own. I just realized that today after hearing the interview for the second time.
As a rule, we haven't been living with eraser memory, or our spirit implanted with obscure evil modulators, although that is something that probably is done on occasion and on some. That is not a must to come here. It is done because of other reasons. The nature of this reality is really to be children who play with their toys, which may differ depending on the stage of life. Our nature is one of innocence. And that is what we are while we still remember at the early stage of life.
I know we seem to like the conspiracy here, and seem to dwell in that realm a lot, probably more than necessary, but the truth (for me) is that in most occasions the nature of the game is not to harm us or 'imprison' us. That is a choice, not a destination.
In other words, the dangers are real, but fear is a choice (a quote from a film I had watched few months back).
There are many things that are left open in the presentation from my original first post, and everyone can fill in those open spaces that which will make him feel comfortable or comforted. That doesn't make it more or less real, it is just a personal journey from here to there.
I am going to find a picture Bill posted some time ago, to lighten things up again. :)
chocolate
24th January 2014, 19:41
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57196-I-dont-think-there-is-reincarnation.&p=666454&viewfull=1#post666454
http://projectavalon.net/Reincarnation.jpg
I posted this not because we are arguing about reincarnation ( i don't participate in arguments in general), but to put a smile on our faces! :)
chocolate
24th January 2014, 19:46
:) I have always been a native star traveler.
Now, reading back, I seem to be ruining my own threads, not just doing that to others...
Man! Such a horrible person... ;)
GreenGuy
24th January 2014, 20:28
When my daughter was about two, she woke one night crying from a bad dream and I went in to comfort her. I asked her to tell me about the dream. She described a life in a place she called Tormonto. She described hanging out with criminals and rough characters. She described the house she lived in, and she described being in a fiery car crash. She described being rushed to the hospital and the doctors working on her, and said: "Then I rose up in the air like a balloon, and then I came here."
Bear in mind this kid was two! There is no way she could have made up all that stuff. I took pages of notes! Marissa is 22 now, and of course remembers little or none of this. She was haunted by these dreams for a while, but by the time she was 5, the memory was faded.
I believe some of us come back sometimes, but not necessarily that everyone reincarnates always.
Billy
24th January 2014, 20:35
I just posting this in the Naadi thread.
When time is on my side i will share more what was said about my last life and this life. I realized afterwards that this life is a mirror reflection but opposite compared with my last life. The Naadi gave me dates when i was born and died in my previous life. Details of Family names, How long in between lives before i was Born again in this life. According to the Naadi Leaves that is, As i have no memory of previous lives.
Till then, Have a Blessed Christmas everyone.
Peace
Today time is on my side therefore i follow through with my promise.
This is a small part of my Naadi reading.
I will share this testimony from my diary as it was read to me. The Naadi Priest reads/chants directly from the leaves in the ancient Tamil language. His sister translates. Excuse the translation. Some of the translation i did not understand at the time. Therefore after asking questions afterwards some things were explained more clearly. I will highlight in brackets my own input.
Here we go.
When the leaves are being read, both your parents are still alive, (This was correct at that time, My father has since passed)
You are the eldest son but middle sibling, You have one older sister and one younger brother. They are married. You are also married and have one daughter. But you are divorced from your wife. You are not that educated, (true :p) You have your own business it is in the technical line with wood or metal.(both)
In this family situations you have taken birth and you are known as Mr, William. These are just a few evidences that the leaves belong to you. (He then reads out some personal future events which i will leave out)
Every person has seven human births. (within the Naadi beliefs) The negativity which you committed in your previous birth and planetary positions are continuing till to this day in your life, your previous birth of your past life was your sixth one, This is your seventh life for you. After this there are no human births for you.
In your previous birth you were born in Tamil Nadu, You were born in a place called Tiruvannamalia. (A place i had visited previously and fell in love with, I truly felt i had been there before)
You were born in the Temple. (after asking, This meant i was born a Brahmin) You were born into a very good family, You had health and wealth, your family was very much attached to the Temple and doing Shastra.
At the age of thirteen years when your negativity began. You married, It was an arranged marriage.
Your Fathers Name was Subramaniyan (Second family name was given also)
Your Mothers Name was Geetha
Your name was Sundaran
You were the third child in the family
you had two elder sisters and two younger sisters and one younger brother.
you got married secondly among'st your siblings ounce your elder sister was married then you got married.
He then proceeded to give me a detailed account of my past life. the pain i had caused others. The shame i brought to my family. Having an affair at 29yrs and second marriage, had children while still married to first wife. (Bigamy) which caused my first wife through shame to commit suicide, Not before she cursed me. leading a double life. Going to the Temple to meet woman rather than doing Pooja. Left my second wife at 37yrs after spending all her money. (:noidea: Long story short. four pages long. I was a spoiled brat and caused much pain) The Naadi said, Harming many people. My family disowned me.
You were continuing to do the same deeds and in later years 59yrs old there was serious health ailments for you. blood related problems and breathing troubles. After that you regretted your deeds and started going to the Temple and worshiping Lord Shiva. You were in penance for 9yrs and only after those good deeds and services which you did for nine years, you completed that birth and you have taken this birth. And in this birth you were born into a poor but good family. In this birth you were born away from India. You were born abroad. But because of the curses of your past life of the ladies who were affected by you. And the curses of your two sons whom you left. and planetary positions those things hold you back.
Recommendation to release past negativity.
1.Do a pilgrimage to town i was born in past life,
2. Plant a tree. see OP post number 2.
3. Do a Navagraha Pooja. (pooja of the nine planets) on a full moon day.
4. receive a yantra made of copper, take it home. pooja for 48days then lay yantra in sea or river.
According to the Naadi. I Am.
Sundaran Kumar. Brahmin. Born 1856. Tamil Nadu. Tiruvanannamalia. India. Died 1925.
Mr. William Born 1954 Scotland. with 29yrs in between lives.
Peace.
Tiruvanannamalia. India
chocolate
24th January 2014, 21:35
The Soul's Journey - Edgar Cayce's Cosmology b6Zt37aMROM
chocolate
24th January 2014, 21:47
GreenGuy, I have had some dreams of the type you described at a very early stage (before I was 7, which is for sure because I wasn't going to school yet), and still remember them. The older I get the less important/scary they get, so after a while we will become friends [with those dreams].
I most definitely know that it is not easy. I have struggled to get used to being here from a physiological point of view, from psychological point of view, and all of that now I see just as obstructions along the way. I have had illnesses, starting from a very young age, which were happening mostly because of the adaptation process of what some call soul into the human body, and some other problems of integrating into a life style and society that feels too edgy and harsh for what I am used to [probably], but I managed, and I know everyone who doesn't give up will eventually. I have no way of explaining the process except for everyone to just go with what feels natural and comfortable for him or her.
I do know that I am not an Earthly creature, so I have to keep my words measured, but I also know that I have a strong connection to that same Earth, and I have to take care of everyone I can touch while being here. It is not as Inelia describes it, or it is, I cannot be sure, but most importantly I am doing my deed for everyone who finds it difficult to understand the ins and outs of being alive in a human body. I sometimes use words that are recognized, sometimes allegories, sometimes computer terminology, but I feel that we all understand what this is all about at a deeper level where words are not necessary.
Unicorn
24th January 2014, 21:52
I've just started to read Children's past lives, by Caron Bowman (link inserted above). When a boy who died in battle in a previous life was asked about that lesson, his answer is: "Everyone has to be in a war. It balances everything out. It gives you a sense of how other people feel". Very shocking. Justification of war from a spiritual perspective. But we are not so dumb as to not feel pain in others. Is there some kind of indoctrination operating in the afterlife, too?
Unicorn
24th January 2014, 23:07
Another quote from the book: "Reexperiencing my past lives released the grip of the past and gave me a fresh start in the present".
Of course I can relate to that. So I can't buy the theory that the veil is necessary or for our own good. If my brother hurts me, I don't need to die and be born again to forgive him. If I hurt him, I don't need to die and be born again to ask for forgiveness.
chocolate
25th January 2014, 10:40
Uni, I give up. Feel as you will. Everyone is entitled to his own journey.
I was drawings leisurely yesterday while listening to the video, and decided to post it mainly because I thought of you.
The simple fact that you went and opened the next books only tells me that you are holding your grip around that thing all too tightly. You may consider changing something to be able to see the world anew after a while. Otherwise it can turn into a run in a circle. Trust me, it's too boring and nothing good comes out of it, you just exhaust your life power.
Peace.
greybeard
25th January 2014, 11:16
Its natural when young to go investigating this and that.
I spent time reading Jules Verne - Edgar Cayce---- books like Chariots of the God's and other exciting works.
Eventually the penny dropped---I knew a lot about these stories but did the information actually help me through the day?
Was it a wild goose chase?
Was I wasting time?
Did I know who/what I am?
(That is beyond all functions, labelling, that tends to define a person)
I then set out on the most exciting journey of discovery to discover what I am.
That's the greatest mystery.
As a fringe benefit of learning to meditate, reading spiritual books etc I then found life a lot more easy.
Basically a time and a place for everything.
I could say that reading Edgar Cayce and others opened my mind and started me on the "journey".
There is a lot of evidence that reincarnation is part of the souls journey.
If we dont get the lesson this time then we come back or it may be for a different lesson a different class.
Eventually we find out what we are and this school has done its job-- no need to come back.
Chris
WhiteFeather
25th January 2014, 13:41
I've just started to read Children's past lives, by Caron Bowman (link inserted above). When a boy who died in battle in a previous life was asked about that lesson, his answer is: "Everyone has to be in a war. It balances everything out. It gives you a sense of how other people feel". Very shocking. Justification of war from a spiritual perspective. But we are not so dumb as to not feel pain in others. Is there some kind of indoctrination operating in the afterlife, too?
Fantastic Book IMO. Glad your enjoying it.
Heres the link to the book https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/docs/Childrens%20past%20lives%20%20how%20past%20life%20memories%20affect%20your%20child.pdf
greybeard
26th January 2014, 21:28
I am not one to start a new thread, since there are new ones created on the forum constantly. But from my own perspective this presentation covers so many aspects and concepts that are becoming interesting in today's times, that even the more advanced among us would find something new to ponder.
I would have posted it in the Here and Now thread, but this way more people will manage to stumble upon it, perhaps.
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Its a great video well presented.
Chris
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