Stephen Hawking: There are 'NO' Black Holes..!

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Stephen Hawking boldly claims there are no black holes

This story was published: 6 hours ago January 25, 2014 5:36PM

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It's a black hole, but not as we know it. Stephen Hawking's latest revelation claims what we know could be all wrong. Source: ThinkStock

PROFESSOR Stephen Hawking has shocked the scientific community by radically claiming there are no black holes.

In an article by Nature (http://www.nature.com/news/stephen-hawking-there-are-no-black-holes-1.14583) it is reported that Hawking, who is responsible for creating the theories on what we know about black holes today, has done away with notions science has held true for almost 40 years.

He claims the event horizon - an invisible boundary covering every black hole beyond which nothing, not even light can escape - do not exist.

Instead what Hawking suggests is an "apparent horizon", which temporarily traps matter and energy before releasing it into space.

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Stephen Hawking has delivered theories on the universe’s most mind-bending subjects and his latest work has stirred up more thought-provoking head-scratching. Source: News Limited

"There is no escape from a black hole in classical theory," Hawking told Nature. Quantum theory, however, "enables energy and information to escape from a black hole".

Now buckle up - here's where it all gets a bit confusing.

It was previously believed that should an astronaut be unlucky enough to fall into a black hole they would happily pass through the event horizon, being gradually pulled inward - stretched out along the way like spaghetti - and eventually crushed at the black hole's infinitely dense core.

However, theoretical physicist Joseph Polchinski came to the conclusion that the laws of quantum mechanics would change the situation completely, turning it into a highly energetic area that would instead burn the astronaut to a crisp. But if this was the case it could dismiss Einstein's theory of relativity. This is what's known as the blackhole firewall paradox and it's been puzzling scientists for years.

But now Hawking's third theory as to what a black hole could look like has got physicists' heads spinning. Hawking's new suggestion is that the apparent horizon is the real boundary. "The absence of event horizons means that there are no black holes - in the sense of regimes from which light can't escape to infinity," Hawking writes.

Polchinski, however, is sceptical that black holes without an event horizon could exist in nature, "the kind of violent fluctuations needed to erase it are too rare in the Universe," he says.

If you've managed to understand any of this, we applaud you. While we won't even pretend to get our own heads around it some scientists have and explain how this revelation "highlights how abhorrent physicists find the potential existence of firewalls."

Raphael Bousso, a theoretical physicist and former student of Hawking's states: "the idea that there are no points from which you cannot escape a black hole is in some ways an even more radical and problematic suggestion than the existence of firewalls," he says. "But the fact that we're still discussing such questions 40 years after Hawking's first papers on black holes and information is testament to their enormous significance."

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[778 neighbour of some guy]

Polchinski, however, is sceptical that black holes without an event horizon could exist in nature, "the kind of violent fluctuations needed to erase it are too rare in the Universe," he says.

So how the F would he know that, I feel very comfortable saying with a 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999 certainty that that dude has no idea what he is actually saying or meaning but is just defending his own little tiny believie of how things should work from his personal perspective because his own perspective is something he has finally managed to get some sort of a handle on and that perspective has very likely been shaped by claims/theories of other people, so, the guy made an effort to understand them, shifting of paradigms would very likely obliterate his career, so I see fear, not objectivity.

And Hawking, still no clue what to make of that guy but at least he adapted his views in sight of the public eye, thats if anything a sign of courage and being prepared to step out of an entrenched scientific position, the world is round as we now all know, took some time to get there, but at least we know that much and every new insight should deserve the same change of perspective, even if that might feel a bit uncomfortable at first.

[alh02]

So in other words, Hawking, along with the rest of the MS scientific community... still don't have a bloody clue! lol

*post update*

beat me to it, neighbour ;)

[Sérénité]

As a child I always thought that black holes were portal openings/exits to other dimensions. I was quite shocked (and embarrassed) during some lesson at school to find out and be told that wasn't the case...
but I still think my theory has as much weight behind it as anyone else's, until such time someone actually pops into a black hole personally and proves otherwise :)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

until such time someone actually pops into a black hole personally and proves otherwise

Preferably a couple of people, even better, a couple of people that do NOT get along on a personal/scientific/spiritual level, if they all tell the same story when they come out, we're in good shape;)

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[chocolate]

There are no black holes as understood right now.
Mr. Hawkins is only repeating what some others have already said.
But don't take my word for it.

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Thanks Chocolate!

Couple more vids to complement the above ones, just for kicks and the nice perspective it offers.

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[ghostrider]

Black Holes do exsist ... there is one that one day will swallow up our solar system , written about in the henoch prophecies ...He isn't as smart as people say he is ... just because you can't see it , doesn't mean it doesn't exsist ... we can't see thoughts , emotion , air , atoms , but we know they exsist ... he can't leave his wheelchair much less leave the planet and go look for himself but there is a few that have left our planet and viewed black holes ...

[Operator]

Well, there is at least 1 black hole, it does exist !

It has a pentagon shape and resides in Washington. Nothing can escape it, everything coming near it will
be trapped. No matter how many dollars the FED is printing, it all vanishes in the black hole there and is
never heard of again. :rolleyes:

[778 neighbour of some guy]

he can't leave his wheelchair much less leave the planet and go look for himself but there is a few that have left our planet and viewed black holes ...

Yes he can, perhaps he didn't practice the correct exercises or he didn't dive on other then mainstream modalities, OBE could help him out, Rebirthing could help him out, meditation could, DMT could, Ayahuasca could, Iboga could, many many ways to escape your body for a longer or shorter period of time, if one would choose a black hole to explore when in that state is a different matter al together, imnsho.

[Richard S.]

Roger Penrose's twistor theory, methinks this has more clout, now...

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[WHOMADEGOD]

I will probably get shot for this but how do we know anything he says isnt what he being forced to say, or rather his electronic equipment?

He could be asking for a glass of water for all we know and his "Tech" may be issuing statements like this instead....

[Operator]

He could be asking for a glass of water for all we know and his "Tech" may be issuing statements like this instead....

Well, that would be a real 'smart' phone then ... wouldn't it?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Stevie Boy makes a lot of weird comments, from "God is dead fo sho" to "aliens wanna eat ur liver out". I've questioned his condition before.

However, this particular thing is interesting to me and could explain a lot... in my senior year of high school, I spent a few hours sitting on a park bench outside my school building.
In my hands was the book "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking. In this book were some of his earliest papers (I think).


1988: First edition. It included an Introduction by Carl Sagan that tells the following story: Sagan was in London for a scientific conference in 1974, and between sessions he wandered into a different room, where a larger meeting was taking place. "I realized that I was watching an ancient ceremony: the investiture of new fellows into the Royal Society, one of the most ancient scholarly organizations on the planet. In the front row, a young man in a wheelchair was, very slowly, signing his name in a book that bore on its earliest pages the signature of Isaac Newton... Stephen Hawking was a legend even then." In his Introduction, Sagan goes on to add that Hawking is the "worthy successor" to Newton and P. A. M. Dirac, both former Lucasian Professors of Mathematics.[5]


What struck me as amazing was that Hawking was willing to work with his editor. In fact, the reason I stuck with the book at all (had to read each page many times!!) was the wonderful illustrations.
One of my favorite pictures in the whole book was the "event horizon", where "particle and antiparticle pairs" were stripped from one another, which Hawking said accounts for the radiation detectable at the edge of the event horizon. His belief at this time was that matter and antimatter near-indivisible pairings of particles were being ripped apart at the edge of the region where a black hole's gravity becomes anomalously inescapable.

Of course, the real question I think, is in regards to our perception of time, and our concept of infinity.

We know that in nature, energy seek both conservation and release.
We know that in many cases, it prefers a familiar channel.
The ultimately perfect channel in our universe, or the closest thing we've seen so far, is the round aperture in space that people call a black hole.

But if form is constant throughout the universe's scales, then what of the example of the hydraulic vortex, or the whirlpool?
Does it not appear to physically vulnerable creatures, like ourselves, that once a body passes a certain point on the edge of this whirlpool in the river, the forces pulling the body inward and downward become inescapable?

How does the Universe in fact deal with such a stockpile of carefully-imprisoned energy and mass?
Are we to look to the Ouroboros, the Snake Who Eats Himself and Lives Forever, for the answer?

Does the macrocosmic collapse into the microcosmic inside the weirdness of the black hole?
Does this amazingly powerful process in our universe generate the forces that allow our universe to consist?

Clearly, these objects have a larger function than we've attributed to them -- and thanks to recent discoveries regarding the Higgs Boson and how gravity behaves (and how delicate that interaction really is!), we are much closer to comprehending them (and maybe ignoring their size for a moment!) as inhabitants of the Quantum Realities.

I mentioned perception of time earlier in my post.
We have most of us heard the story of the hypothetical twins separated at age 20, one confined to earth and the other sent on a two-year trip into deep space (away from physical gravity sources).
We have heard the unbelievable ending of the tale, that the twin sent into space has aged less -- and that given certain conditions, his aging might cease entirely.

If aging is a function of gravity and speed, and the perception of time by the body and the observer, yet humans think we cannot escape aging,
what other things in our universe appear to function in a given way, but are really doing something so wildly different from what we take as normal, we might not believe it?

I am very interested to hear more about what happens exactly when a "gamma burst" and other strange rays come from black holes.
Doesn't that sort of throw a wrench in the works, or are there states of matter/light/energy that transcend gravity, because gravity depends on them and not vice versa?

:) Hello Stephen!!

p.s. what goes up must come down, but if it happens too fast or at the same time (quantum!), we can't see it happening!

p.p.s. if observation causes change then God might have wanted to hide his formula from us until we grow up a bit. i.e. we cannot observe the ultimate process. @_@ what is real indeed.

also


Colossians 1:17

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.


Job 9: 9

Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.

Job 38: 31

Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?


If he gave us that power we would tear the universe to pieces.
I hope we don't do that! (A Wrinkle in Time ML)

[Georgesdragon]

Quantum theory eh? enables information and energy to escape a black hole. Sounds like more absolute cobblers from Mr Hawkins to me, if indeed it is from him at all. One minute he tells us one thing and a few years later he changes his mind. Personally I think most scientists are playing catch up with God. Well most of them are except for Mr Hawkins who doesn`t believe in a creator... maybe that creator is giving time to finally realize the truth, after all he is the longest known survivor of motornurons disease. I hope one day he finds out the truth and can move on and save us from this sort of deception. Lets keep things simple.

[Becky]

Whenever I see this man I get flashbacks to the night i bumped into him...literally! It was in Cambridge, on the corner of Granchester Road and Fulbrooke Rd. It was nighttime, so dark, and I was about 11 years old, walking back from my great aunts to my grandma, who lived round the corner from her sister. I was with mum but i was running on ahead, when I went round the corner i didn't hear or see him coming round the corner in the opposite direction because his wheelchair was silent, and I ran straight into him and fell into his lap! He was just as shocked as me, but i screamed because i found him frightening, and mum had to apologise for me lol.

This has put me off from ever reading any of his work...maybe I will one day!

[dsldog]

@Tesla_WTC_Solution "I am very interested to hear more about what happens exactly when a "gamma burst" and other strange rays come from black holes.
Doesn't that sort of throw a wrench in the works, or are there states of matter/light/energy that transcend gravity, because gravity depends on them and not vice versa?". First things first, nothing comes _from_ the BH. What happens is just as interesting though. The BH rotates. This creates much angular momentum. Matter being sucked in by gravity and ripped apart generates unimaginably high energy radiation. That energy gets emitted as polar jets along the axis of rotation. There is magic here, but the hypothesis is there is a magnetic field that gathers up the energy. The same effect is seen with other celestial bodies.

FWIW, I think what Hawking is arguing is something of a fine point here. Relativity tells us the closer we get to the event horizon time goes to 0. The BH clearly grows, we see stuff get sucked in. Hows that happenin if time is stopped? I'll be honest, I havnt read the article (I will). But I suspect that at least part of the debate.

[dsldog]

Also, for you time travel types (think me :). You might want to check out the Kerr metrics of BHs and something called "frame dragging" which can create distortions in space time where events wrap around on themselves. Very cool! "There I am in the past" ;)

[korgh]

Damn it!!! there is no black holes?
So, what i will call the place where lives my mother in law?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Damn it!!! there is no black holes?
So, what i will call the place where lives my mother in law?

Mordor.....

[Arak]

I keep it as possible as this new theory, that black holes are just stargates to others parts of universe. Might be even portals betveen universes. Can 3D matter pass thru those gates that I dont know. Energy sure can.

[dsldog]

@Arak, tempting and I dont want to discourage you, but a BH is more or less God's garbage disposal. Whatever goes in, well, you get the idea. Enter worm holes, right? The problem is that the energy to get even an atom through a worm hole all but precludes it. But I am just not going to let that stop me. Think small! Really small. :)

[Arak]

:) I dont go arguing about this as we both can just gues stuff. Ofc if we examine the issue from today's scientific point of view you are right. But as the starting post states, we know next to nothing. :)

[conk]

I keep it as possible as this new theory, that black holes are just stargates to others parts of universe. Might be even portals betveen universes. Can 3D matter pass thru those gates that I dont know. Energy sure can.Wasn't this one of Hawking's theories, that Black Holes were the flip side of White Holes or portals into a different dimension or Universe? As no matter or energy can be destroyed Black Holes would eventually eat up the entire existence, thus it went through the Hole into a different space, time, or dimension.

[dsldog]

Thing about BHs, we can see them. The way their gravity interacts with nearby stars gives them away. White holes, if they exist havent been detected. Not to go off topic too much. But what would be more interesting (and horrific), the detection of a different universe, ie, a region of space time with a different ground state in collision with our own. Very scary.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Thing about BHs, we can see them. The way their gravity interacts with nearby stars gives them away. White holes, if they exist havent been detected. Not to go off topic too much. But what would be more interesting (and horrific), the detection of a different universe, ie, a region of space time with a different ground state in collision with our own. Very scary.

What if white holes are really small?
What if they are subatomic size?

What if... they are just a particle? @_@

Size is somewhat meaningless in quantum physics.
So is time, space, distance, mass, etc. lol

"Nothing can come from a black hole" indeed, heh...

We are only capable of watching the front door of the house,
what about the back door that exists in a different time/space/dimension scale?


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[Tangri]

Damn it!!! there is no black holes?
So, what i will call the place where lives my mother in law?

Opposite of Heaven? :eek:

[dsldog]

@Tesla_WTC_Solution, I'll do my best here feel free to ask more.

>>"What if white holes are really small?
>>What if they are subatomic size?

Indeed, what if they are? it's not precluded. But I am afraid that doesnt change what I said about BHs.

>>What if... they are just a particle? @_@

Not sure what you mean here? BHs arent substance. This is bad, but it's what physicists would resort to.
Imagine a x/y graph that represents every point in the universe, okay? Now just take an x and divide by zero to get y.
I can do better. But it would take some time.

>>Size is somewhat meaningless in quantum physics.
>>So is time, space, distance, mass, etc. lol

No Tesla, size is everything in quantum physics. Google de Broglie matter wave. We can go from there. Time space and (distance same as space, right?) mass (or inertia) The important thing is gravity rules them all!

>>"Nothing can come from a black hole" indeed, heh...

In the context I explained, yes.

>>We are only capable of watching the front door of the house,
>>what about the back door that exists in a different time/space/dimension scale?

I assume you mean, can the _other_ side of a black hole spew "stuff" into ours or some other
universe? Sure, why not?

The experiment you showed talks about Hawking Radiation. That's interesting all right but not
at all what happens in accretion. This is more about quantum flux. It's a very different subject.
Let me know if you want to talk about it.

The second part looks kind sort of like parametric down conversion which is nothing new. Its just
a way to generate entangled photons.

Then we sort of jump off into Tachyons. Which as everybody knows are super luminal and travel
backwards in time. :-/ Those are just soo yesterday ;)

I'll be glad to talk to you Tesla, but I sort of get the impression you think I am a "cocker spaniel"
(someone on the internet pretending to be something they arent) I just aint that.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

@Tesla_WTC_Solution, I'll do my best here feel free to ask more.

>>"What if white holes are really small?
>>What if they are subatomic size?

Indeed, what if they are? it's not precluded. But I am afraid that doesnt change what I said about BHs.

>>What if... they are just a particle? @_@

Not sure what you mean here? BHs arent substance. This is bad, but it's what physicists would resort to.
Imagine a x/y graph that represents every point in the universe, okay? Now just take an x and divide by zero to get y.
I can do better. But it would take some time.

>>Size is somewhat meaningless in quantum physics.
>>So is time, space, distance, mass, etc. lol

No Tesla, size is everything in quantum physics. Google de Broglie matter wave. We can go from there. Time space and (distance same as space, right?) mass (or inertia) The important thing is gravity rules them all!

>>"Nothing can come from a black hole" indeed, heh...

In the context I explained, yes.

>>We are only capable of watching the front door of the house,
>>what about the back door that exists in a different time/space/dimension scale?

I assume you mean, can the _other_ side of a black hole spew "stuff" into ours or some other
universe? Sure, why not?

The experiment you showed talks about Hawking Radiation. That's interesting all right but not
at all what happens in accretion. This is more about quantum flux. It's a very different subject.
Let me know if you want to talk about it.

The second part looks kind sort of like parametric down conversion which is nothing new. Its just
a way to generate entangled photons.

Then we sort of jump off into Tachyons. Which as everybody knows are super luminal and travel
backwards in time. :-/ Those are just soo yesterday ;)

I'll be glad to talk to you Tesla, but I sort of get the impression you think I am a "cocker spaniel"
(someone on the internet pretending to be something they arent) I just aint that.

Hmm, I don't recall saying that about you, or suggesting it.
Interesting direction to push the thread --

So I infer from this ^ up here that anyone without Angela Merkel's level of education regarding the quantum can't postulate about a well-know but little-understood phenomenon, in terms other than those regurgitated by the establishment and tied to "impure mathematics"?

What's funny is that I acknowledge that Stephen Hawking is a brilliant and educated man, but was still wrong about some of it.
People focus so much on the illusion that success is "always being right" that they just stop working at all...

I remember that Bill Nye guy being wrong about many things during the Gulf Oil Spill, and he is an expert with an appropriate education -- but was still wrong -- see where I am going with this?

Being well-educated in a soon-to-be-discarded science is about as useful as owning an expired lottery ticket.
I'd bet on a snail in motion before a dead horse anyday.

[dsldog]

@Tesla_WTC_Solution, I'll do my best here feel free to ask more.

>>"What if white holes are really small?
>>What if they are subatomic size?

Indeed, what if they are? it's not precluded. But I am afraid that doesnt change what I said about BHs.

>>What if... they are just a particle? @_@

Not sure what you mean here? BHs arent substance. This is bad, but it's what physicists would resort to.
Imagine a x/y graph that represents every point in the universe, okay? Now just take an x and divide by zero to get y.
I can do better. But it would take some time.

>>Size is somewhat meaningless in quantum physics.
>>So is time, space, distance, mass, etc. lol

No Tesla, size is everything in quantum physics. Google de Broglie matter wave. We can go from there. Time space and (distance same as space, right?) mass (or inertia) The important thing is gravity rules them all!

>>"Nothing can come from a black hole" indeed, heh...

In the context I explained, yes.

>>We are only capable of watching the front door of the house,
>>what about the back door that exists in a different time/space/dimension scale?

I assume you mean, can the _other_ side of a black hole spew "stuff" into ours or some other
universe? Sure, why not?

The experiment you showed talks about Hawking Radiation. That's interesting all right but not
at all what happens in accretion. This is more about quantum flux. It's a very different subject.
Let me know if you want to talk about it.

The second part looks kind sort of like parametric down conversion which is nothing new. Its just
a way to generate entangled photons.

Then we sort of jump off into Tachyons. Which as everybody knows are super luminal and travel
backwards in time. :-/ Those are just soo yesterday ;)

I'll be glad to talk to you Tesla, but I sort of get the impression you think I am a "cocker spaniel"
(someone on the internet pretending to be something they arent) I just aint that.

Hmm, I don't recall saying that about you, or suggesting it.
Interesting direction to push the thread --

>>Cool then, apologies for misinterpreting you.

So I infer from this ^ up here that anyone without Angela Merkel's level of education regarding the quantum can't postulate about a well-know but little-understood phenomenon, in terms other than those regurgitated by the establishment and tied to "impure mathematics"?

>>You have to admit, your "cheeky". No you should not infer that at all. Like you, I dont recall saying, or implying it.

What's funny is that I acknowledge that Stephen Hawking is a brilliant and educated man, but was still wrong about some of it.
People focus so much on the illusion that success is "always being right" that they just stop working at all...

>>I dont exactly "like" Hawking. I think he's something of a hypocrite.

I remember that Bill Nye guy being wrong about many things during the Gulf Oil Spill, and he is an expert with an appropriate education -- but was still wrong -- see where I am going with this?

Being well-educated in a soon-to-be-discarded science is about as useful as owning an expired lottery ticket.
I'd bet on a snail in motion before a dead horse anyday.

Well said.

[Johnny]

That is why, there are no black holes :) From M. t. Keshe:



Stephen Hawking has abandoned his theory of Black Holes
Today, 05:36 PM


In the on line paper released by Stephen Hawking on 24.1.2014, he calls it his blunder.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.5761v1.pdf

Read more in this link

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/st...bate-1.2514299

“In his paper, Hawking writes: "This suggests that black holes should be redefined as metastable bound states of the gravitational field."”

In a simple word he confirms the theory of M T Keshe about the creation of Black Holes of what Keshe calls the Principal stars magnetic fields (in possession of both gravitational and magnetic fields) to be correct and that these environments in the universe, be they in the center of the universe, galaxies, protons or electrons, they are all the sources of energy and magnetic fields in their environment and the origin of life of that entity.

The reason they are so dark is fully explained in the paper by M T keshe (Author of the paper ‘The creation of Black hole’ (original version 2004) and the revised version published in his book ‘The origin of the universe’ in 2011 page 151 (1).

M. T. Keshe contradicted Stephen Hawking`s false assumption in his very first paper submitted for peer review in 2004 to Royal Astronomical society.

In the recent years and months, Keshe has put forward many new clear theories in how wrong Stephen Hawking`s assumptions have been about his Black hole theories.

Now keshe says “The unfounded theory by Stephen Hawking for the past thirty years that Black holes are giant eating machines, and keeping the same rhetoric up to 2004 is finally over”, with Stephen Hawking bows out after ten years of battle confused and disorientated about his own theory about the Black hole.

The unknown history about these two scientists:

In April of 2004, M T Keshe submitted a paper entitled ‘The creation Black Holes’, for peer review to Royal Astronomical society.

On the same day in July the 8th in 2004 as M T Keshe Received a letter from Royal Astronomical society stating that his paper about creation of the Black Holes will not be published, and the Society will be keep the paper in their library, Stephen Hawking coincidentally on the same day (8.7.2004) said publicly that he had changed his mind and that Black Holes do indeed leak radiation and had lost a bet to his friend. Later on that month, at the Dublin conference on 21.7.2004, with the use of many equations he did not convince any of the people attending the meeting as to the reason for his U-turn.

In his paper, M T keshe confirms that light and radiation escapes from Principal stars (Black holes) and he confirms that the Black holes, are in essence the birthplace of matter and source of creation in the universe.

In any case, Keshe Foundation has published the revised version of the paper in the book ‘The origin of the universe’ ISBN 978 94 60870002 in 2011, and the copy of the original letter from the Royal Astronomical society were released in this book page 177 as an appendix to the ‘The creation of Black hole’ paper and that Black holes release radiation and they are the sources of life.

Keshe says “ In the book in an open letter placed before the original paper he mentions about the coincidence of the date of his letter and the scientist changing his mind after thirty years.

Further, it took three years until now from Keshe publishing his book for Hawking to find a way out with the release of his 2014 paper.

Keshe say, “I wonder if we are ever going to receive a letter of apology from Mr. Hawking or the Royal Astronomical society.”

Keshe says that Mr. Stephen Hawking in this open paper has not said anything new and he is just as an eminent scientist confirming our findings.

M T Keshe has said in his latest interviews and on line workshops in 2014 “three days after I gave a lecture in Leuven city in Belgium in 2011 about the book, Stephen Hawking turned up in the same university out of nowhere and gives a lecture under the same name as the book ‘The origin of the universe’ (check the Belgium press).

With the release of this paper, Stephen Hawking is trying to limit his exposure, as no one would have known about M T Keshe in 2004, when he was an obscure and unknown scientist. Because of this obscurity, the Royal Astronomical Society and Stephen Hawking could try to walk away with the glory of being a reputable institute and a man of intelligence who could change his mind.

Now that finally Stephen Hawking has decided to bow out and with it at the same time acknowledges the correct findings of M T keshe, with this change of mind nearly ten years later. “So after ten years of battle to publish my paper to show its contents were the correct principles about the workings of Principal stars (Black holes), the cover-up attempts of the Royal Astronomical society and Stephen Hawking have come to an abrupt end.”

Keshe has said, “We do not think that the Royal Astronomical society has any more creditability in the world of science to be a peer review journal, as it shows their peer-review is nothing but a disgrace and manipulation by scientists whose opinions they rely on. These thieves of the peer-review bodies silence new and correct discoveries for their private or personal benefits.

Now we hope readers understand why the Keshe Foundation releases its knowledge and technology directly to public as they have done recently with their Fukushima decontamination video and their 9th workshop (3,4) with open disclosure of new methods of producing Nano materials at zero costs, in how decontamination of Fukushima’s land and water can be carried out and how he keeps their work out of the dishonest and false structured peer review organizations and their disgraceful scientists.

Keshe says “ My belief has been that with the open communication systems available today, you take wisdom from my papers according to your intelligence. You peer review any paper according to your own knowledge and you do not need another person according to their private and personal interest to tell you what you need to think.”

“ Now the question is whether the keshe model of the plasma, the new structure of the Principal star (Black hole), the existence of principal magnetic and gravitational fields and matters strength as explained in the books of the M T Keshe is to be the new model in physics for the center and their behavior in galaxies and other entities in the universe.”




On behalf of the Stichting the Keshe Foundation

Source: http://forum.keshefoundation.org/forum/keshe-official/31282-stephen-hawking-has-abandoned-his-theory-of-black-holes

Johnny

[Johnny]

From M. T. Keshe:



Help with Press release
Today, 03:57 AM
The Keshe Foundation as part of bigger picture of its work and to full fill its road map target announced on the 1.1.2014, needs help to make articles like,the Fukushima and Stephen Hawking ready in the form of press release packages to be made available to us that readers can send these press releases to all news agencies in their country.

If you are connected to press and have the knowledge to make a press release package from the subjects we have released and are going to release, please do so and then provide it to forum members and readers they they can be used by the supporters of the Foundation around the world in the correct manner to provide these press release packges the world news media and for their use on the internet.

You can do so with the articles about the Fukushima and Stephen Hawking to start with.

We thank you in advance.
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Source: http://forum.keshefoundation.org/forum/keshe-official/31286-help-with-press-release

Johnny