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Tangri
1st February 2014, 01:21
I did notice recently that as an Avalon forum's American dominance falling in some trap willingly or obliviously.
USA's main media and it's puppeteer' s mutual satisfying outcome is effective to create 21. century's enemy " Islam ".

I want to give some essence of the religion. If you want to see, you can see what is in that.

Whirling Dervishes

Mevlana - founder of the Dervish sectKnown to the west as Whirling Dervishes, the members of the Mevlevi Order (named for their founder Mevlana) from Konya lived in what we might call coisters or monasteries - what to them was a Mevlevihane. The one at Galata in Istanbul is a product of late Ottoman architecture, and quite elaborate in having a tomb, a large chamber for the ceremony of the whirling dance (Sema), a fountain from which water was charitably distributed to the public, a time keeper's room, cells for the dervishes, separate quarters for the Master, a section for women, a chamber of silence, a large ornate fountain for ablutions, and a laundry room.

The Mevlevi Order founded by Mevlana in Konya during the Seljuk period is made up first and foremost of tekke analogous to the monasteries of the West. The first of these tekkes is named for Mevlana and was considered as the originator of all the rest. One figure stands out in the early spread of the order: Divani Mehmet Celebi. The celebis or gentle ones who went out to break new ground and make converts saw themselves as disciples of this great master, and an astonishing number of tekkes were established during Divani Mehmet Celebi's lifetime and thanks to his efforts; in Aleppo, Egypt and Algeria, on the islands of Chios (Sakiz) and Mitilene, and of course on the Turkish mainland. The Galata Mevlevihane is among these latter.

The rituals of the Rumi's followers (Whirling Dervishes) are among the enduring as well as the most exquisite ceremonies of spirituality. The ritual whirling of the dervishes is an act of love and a drama of faith. It possesses a highly structured form within which the gentle turns become increasingly dynamic as the individual dervishes strive to achieve a state of trans. The music that accompanies the whirling from beginning to end ranges from somber to rhapsodical; its effect is intended to be mesmerizing. Chanting of poetry, rhythmic rotation, and incessant music create a synthesis which, according to the faithful, induces a feeling of soaring, of ecstasy, of mystical flight.

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Tangri
1st February 2014, 01:26
Also, you can find some clues on I, pet goat II (short movie made by a Canadian) on that.

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Frederick Jackson
1st February 2014, 03:52
A very strong pure mystical thread runs through Islam in a variety of Sufi orders. These orders are often at such odds with the several establishment views of the religion of Islam that they have been harshly persecuted. I happen to be a member of another Turkish order that is very close to the Mevlevi order. Yet I am not a Muslim. I wished not to be held in that way accountable, or responsible to any particular religion. My religion must be from the heart and I must be free to think as well. And fortunately for me, my sheika (a female!) found no problem with this. In this way I am right there with Rumi, as I am equally at home in a synagogue, church, mosque or Buddhist temple. The pity is when Christian fundamentalists attack Islam because of ITS fundamentalists, they do not realize they are being one and the same with them. And far away from the path of love and tolerance and discernment that spirals back in time to Abraham, to the Buddha, to Jesus and to Mohammad (SAW).

dianna
1st February 2014, 12:16
Very synchronistic, this thread for me as I am reading

Enter Through the Image (L. Caruana)

From Chapter 2

one archaic motif has persisted through time … the mythic image of the One at the centre of a swirling vortex


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In 1945, on a hill overlooking the Nile, a sacred text was accidentally unearthed after having been buried for seventeen hundred years. Within its aged pages, there appeared the cryptic inscription '...enter through the image.'

Taking this as his starting point, the noted Visionary artist L. Caruana guides his reader through a labyrinth of imagery, exposing the forgotten image-language at the root of all dreaming, art and mythmaking….

Drawing examples from a diversity of ancient cultures (Buddhism, Alchemy, Gnosticism) and from contemporary Visionary art (Dali, Fuchs, Johfra), many beautiful and intriguing symbols are illuminated with crystal clarity. Retracing the steps of 20th century mythmakers (Hesse, Kazantzakis) and scholars (Jung, Campbell, Eliade), Caruana opens our eyes to the ancient mythic patterns underlying our lives. As many fascinating dreams are offered and decyphered (Baudelaire, Descartes), a new key is given to us for the elucidation of dreams.

By the end of this richly-illustrated study, we come to see how our own daily experiences are, in fact, heroic adventures culminating in rare moments of epiphany. We discover that our own lives are nothing less than "...a gradual unfolding of the Sacred."

Tesla_WTC_Solution
1st February 2014, 20:37
The vortex and the dream vortex are central plot elements in Neil Gaiman's Sandman series.

There is a granddaughter of one of the Endless, by Desire, her name is Rose Walker.
And she is the psychic focus of our generation's "vortex".
She has to "give her heart" to her dying grandmother (the crone aspect of the divine female) in order to prevent the end of the world.
Eventually the old woman is able to give her the heart back...

The dervishes are awesome -- have you read about the cannabis connection to dervishes?

The "bhang" tea causes them to experience the supernatural and they dance :)

I think it's really neat.

Tangri
3rd February 2014, 02:54
Whirling (sema) refers to a broad variety of practices (much like the term sports) that includes techniques designed to promote relaxation, build internal energy or life force and develop compassion, love, patience, generosity and forgiveness. A particularly ambitious form of meditation aims at effortlessly sustained single-pointed concentration single-pointed analysis,meant to enable its practitioner to enjoy an indestructible sense of well-being while engaging in any life activity.
I do not believe, practitioner of sema (semayenler) in usage of any external hallucinogenics and/or have stage any form of intoxication.
Nice try to assembly it's trance with known goodies but unfortunately serenity comes with mind's own product.

Frederick Jackson
7th February 2014, 05:00
Whirling (sema) refers to a broad variety of practices (much like the term sports) that includes techniques designed to promote relaxation, build internal energy or life force and develop compassion, love, patience, generosity and forgiveness. A particularly ambitious form of meditation aims at effortlessly sustained single-pointed concentration single-pointed analysis,meant to enable its practitioner to enjoy an indestructible sense of well-being while engaging in any life activity.
I do not believe, practitioner of sema (semayenler) in usage of any external hallucinogenics and/or have stage any form of intoxication.
Nice try to assembly it's trance with known goodies but unfortunately serenity comes with mind's own product.

One reason I added discernment to the followers of a true spiritual path. You do not get the good feeling with goodies, but with Godliness, which is what the Whirling Dervishes are doing. It is like creating a vortex into which the spirit of the divine is entrained. (Not exactly a phrase from the Mevlevi Tariqat literature, but seems to me that is what is happening.)