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Cidersomerset
3rd February 2014, 22:41
I started this thread a couple of hours ago after watching episode 3 of the BBC
history of king Alfred and the beginings of modern England. This was about
Aethelstan the first overlord King of Britain and was interesting in looking at how
Britain developed from the pieces we know coming out of the Dark ages mainly in
England and the many ways events could of changed. This led me to parallel in the
weather now with the heavy flooding and Alfreds time when he fought a guarilla
war against Guthrum and the Danes.I cannot find the Aethelstan vid, but started a
thread anyway for those interested in their Anglo Saxon roots across the world.

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Somerset and the Vale of Avalon has played an historic and enchanted part in the
history and upheavals of Romano Britain & Anglo Saxon England. BBC Three have
been showing a history of Alfred the Great and tonights third episode was about
Aethelstan the first king of Britain. Earlier Arthur the legendry leader of the
Romano/Britains fought against the encroaching European invader/settlers chiefly
Saxon,Dutes, Angles , Friesians and others who eventually forged Angleland before
Harold another son of Wessex lost to the Norman Duke William and a start of
another 1000 years of Royal misfits some good, some bad most indifferent to the
people they claimed to rule. Infact the last pitched battle fought on English soil
was at Sedgmoor in 1685. The Pitchfork rebellion when many sons of somerset
were sold into slavery by the infamous Judge Jeffries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedgemoor


The levels were drained by Dutch experts in the 16th century and has developed into
lush Dairy farmland thru a system of drainage ditches, and although winter flooding
is common the last two years have been more severe than usual and has turned the
landscape back to something like Alfreds time. Infact where my house is in the centre of
Bridgwater would have been flooded if the defences in the town were not improved in
the 1980's.

The Levels flooded 2014
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Somerset levels from glastonbury tor
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_Levels
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UK floods: January rain breaks records in parts of England

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King Alfred and the Anglo Saxons Alfred of Wessex EP1 BBC Documentary 2013 guerrilla war

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King Alfred and the Anglo Saxons Alfred of Wessex BBC Documentary 2013
King Alfred the Great fights a desperate guerrilla war in the marshes of Somerset -
burning the cakes on the way- before his decisive victory at Edington. Creating towns,
trade and coinage, reviving learning and literacy, Alfred then laid the foundations of a
single kingdom of 'all the English'. Filmed on location from Reading to Rome, using
original texts read in Old English, and interviews with leading scholars, Michael Wood
describes a man who was 'not just the greatest Briton, but one of the greatest rulers of
any time or place'.


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King Alfred and the Anglo Saxons EP 2 The Lady of the Mercians BBC documentary 2013

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In this second episode, Alfred's children continue the family plan to create a kingdom of all the English.

Michael Wood recovers the story of Alfred's daughter Aethelflaed, the ruler of Mercia,
from a copy of a lost chronicle written in Mercia in her lifetime which in the film we hear
read in Old English. One of the great forgotten figures in British history, Aethelflaed led
armies, built fortresses, campaigned against the Vikings and was a brilliant diplomat.
Her fame spread across the British Isles, beloved by her warriors and her people, she
was known simply as 'the Lady of the Mercians'. Without her, concludes Michael
Wood, 'England might never have happened'.


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King Arthur Avalon

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Many other regions from Cornwall, wales and even France have claimed links to
the Legendry Hero....

Cidersomerset
3rd February 2014, 23:01
I have not seen this adaptation of the legend yet based
on the novel of that name.....


The Mists Of Avalon CD1

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Part 1 of The Mists of Avalon based on the book by Marion Zimmer Bradley.



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Part 2 of The Mists of Avalon based on the book by Marion Zimmer Bradley

Ellisa
3rd February 2014, 23:32
Cider- I have read The Mists of Avalon and it's about Arthur not Alfred, and is mainly the story of Morgan Le Fay and annoyingly diverges from the regular Arthur story. However if you ignore that irritation, it is a good 'yarn'!

I enjoyed reading about the Somerset levels as I remember the flooding that there used to be most years of the 1950s. It's interesting that it is happening again. It's been quite a year for weather in most places I think.

Cidersomerset
3rd February 2014, 23:48
Cider- I have read The Mists of Avalon and it's about Arthur not Alfred, and is mainly the story of Morgan Le Fay and annoyingly diverges from the regular Arthur story. However if you ignore that irritation, it is a good 'yarn'!

yeah I know I sort of Branched out to Arthur with his links to Avalon, I also have the book , although I have not read it. I've have three novels
The mist of Avalon, The Pendragon Catherine Christian and The Crimson Chalice by victor Channing which I read three quarters of and was quite
a good take on the legend.

Becky
4th February 2014, 07:48
Hi Cider,
I live in the Mendips and go to Glastonbury a lot - I'm going there tomorrow and after to visit a friend I made on Avalon who lives near Glastonbury. I think the biggest worry is for the farmland which we have become used to for supporting sheep and cattle....not that I want to eat these creatures, but I feel sorry that they will have suffered in this weather.

We have had so much rain here in the Mendips, but are aware that we don't suffer with flooding as it all flows off the Mendips into the Somerset levels!

Thanks for sharing this info. I'm really interested in the story of Jesus visiting Glastonbury with his Uncle Joseph of Aramathea (his mother Mary's brother). Joseph is said to have lived out his last days around there.

Becky

Mike Gorman
4th February 2014, 09:01
I hate to mention it, being a blatant commercial production, but did you guys have a look at Game Of Thrones? I liked the first parts
especially, with Sean Bean and the Northerners..not a bad effort I thought.

Cidersomerset
4th February 2014, 12:04
I hate to mention it, being a blatant commercial production, but did you guys have a look at Game Of Thrones? I liked the first parts
especially, with Sean Bean and the Northerners..not a bad effort I thought.

I love Game of thrones and watched all three series, and could not wait for the next so listened
to the rest on audio Book. Which is weird as you see the characters from the TV series in your
imagination as the new adventures take place. There are also a lot of characters not in the TV
series because the story is so epic.

Its based on several periods of British , European north African and Asian history and JR Martin
particularly likes the war of the Roses period when the house of Lancaster Red Rose, challenged
the house of York white Rose, for the crown of England known as the War of the Roses, which
threw England into civil war for many years.

Cidersomerset
4th February 2014, 14:07
Flooding PM's 'Enormous Sympathy' For Victims a few days ago...

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And now Charlie is down for a gander......


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4 February 2014 Last updated at 13:31
Prince Charles visiting flooded Somerset Levels

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Read more....

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Michael Evis...

Floods: Somerset Abandoned - Glasto Founder

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Published on 31 Jan 2014


Glastonbury Festival Founder Michael Eavis On Somerset's Floods

Glastonbury founder Michael Eavis says people in Somerset have been campaigning
for their rivers to be dredged for 40 years.




http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/somerset_abandoned_40_years_ago_says_eavis

Cidersomerset
4th February 2014, 15:00
Thanks for sharing this info. I'm really interested in the story of Jesus visiting Glastonbury with his Uncle Joseph of Aramathea (his mother Mary's brother). Joseph is said to have lived out his last days around there.

Thanks Becky I forgot about JC...LOL...Actually the vid below is quite interesting
and Dennis Price gives a plausible case for Jesus to have visited the west of Britain
with his uncle Joseph of Arimathea...

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Jesus 'may have visited England', says Scottish academic

Glastonbury Tor
Could Jesus Christ have visited Glastonbury?

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The legend of the Tree that grew from Josephs staff

Jesus Christ could have come to Britain to further his education, according to a
Scottish academic.Church of Scotland minister Dr Gordon Strachan makes the claim
in a new film entitled And Did Those Feet. The film examines the story of Jesus'
supposed visit, which survives in the popular hymn Jerusalem. Dr Strachan believes
it is "plausible" Jesus came to England for his studies, as it was the forefront of
learning 2,000 years ago.

"Coming this far wasn't in fact that far in the olden days," Dr Strachan told BBC
Radio 4's The World At One. "The Romans came here at the same time and they
found it quite easy."

Dr Strachan added that Jesus had "plenty of time" to do the journey, as little was
known about his life before the age of 30. The legend that Jesus Christ came to
Britain was popularised in a poem written by William Blake in the early 19th
Century and made famous as a hymn 100 years later.


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Poet William Blake
William Blake's "Jerusalem" spread the idea Jesus came to England


Now the first words of the hymn - "And did those feet" - are the title of a new film
based on a book researched by Dr Strachan, who lectures on the history of
architecture at Edinburgh University.

"It is generally suggested that he came to the west of England with his uncle,
Joseph of Arimathea, who was here for tin," said the academic. Dr Strachan
claimed Jesus Christ could have come to England to further his education.

"He needed to go around to learn bits and pieces about ancient wisdom, and the
druids in Britain went back hundreds if not thousands of years. He probably came
here to meet the druids, to share his wisdom and gain theirs."

Among the places Jesus is said to have visited are Penzance, Falmouth, St-Just-in-
Roseland and Looe, which are all in Cornwall, as well as Glastonbury in Somerset -
which has particular legends about Jesus.

"St Augustine wrote to the Pope to say he'd discovered a church in Glastonbury
built by followers of Jesus. But St Gildas (a 6th-Century British cleric) said it was
built by Jesus himself. It's a very very ancient church which went back perhaps to AD37."

The film And Did Those Feet is being screened on Friday in central London.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8380511.stm

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Gardiners World -Jesus may have visited England

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ND DID THOSE FEET IN ANCIENT TIMES (JERUSALEM)
(Traditional English / Words: William Blake)


And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon those clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!

I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

Cidersomerset
4th February 2014, 15:44
This is from another thread......

Hi Jack this reminds me of a thread back along, I told Cartomancer about
Barrow mump which is 4 or 5 miles from here on the main Michael
Ley lane and he made this film and sent it to me......


The Strange Case of Burrow Mump. Rosslyn Chapel and Brodgar Circle


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Brodgar Circle and Burrow Mump are located along an azimuth or line on the globe
created using the north to south orientation of Rosslyn Chapel. Roslin Castle lies
south along the same orientation. Is there more happening here than a chance
alignment of famous sites from vastly different time periods? The answer may surprise you.


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I might of been a 'Cider Druid' in a previous life....LOL...

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Somerset Cider....

http://www.somersetcider.co.uk/somerset_farmhouse_cider_history.html


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Not quite sure how I got from 'NWO Scum' ....To 'WASSAILING'...

Could do with a pint now lovely outside..LOL..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59772-The-NWO-Bilderberg-SCUMBAGS-will-rue-the-day-ALEX-got-ZAPPED-by-Mother-Earth-s-TRUTH..---&p=683495&highlight=Burrow+mump#post683495

Cidersomerset
4th February 2014, 16:00
This Thread is a little bit of mash up, and I definitely could of layed it out better
but I was not planning to go in this direction but does confirm the magical
essence of this area with Leylines, Legends and mystery & myths......


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The Geomancy of Avalon: Axis Avebury and the Michael Line

I have been looking into the possibility that the circle of Avebury is the datum or
point from which the Michael Line was established. I used the angle of the Michael
Line to create a 62/242 deg. True North azimuth. This line includes all the places
traditionally included on the Michael Line.

The most amazing discovery here is that the Axis of Avebury points an azimuth to
Glastonbury Tor. Glastonbury Tor seems to be oriented to point right back to
Avebury! This is an intentional arrangement. The Chapel atop Glastonbury Tor is
also oriented in this manner. Avebury works as a hexagonal Axis!

In addition it is clear that this alignment is valued outside of Britain in places like
Denmark, Bornholm Island and even Tiawinaku and Pumu Punku in South America.
Please watch this video I made that contains a lot more information. Thank you.


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different post.....

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Cadbury castle ancient Hill fort, one of the mythical sites of camelot...

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View of Glastonbury Tor from Cadbury Castle....



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Must go to bed got to get up for work in six hours...LOL..Just as
I was getting into this,,,,Cheers steve..

Cidersomerset
4th February 2014, 16:08
Actually I have looked into this before Becky.....

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There are a lot of St Michaels on the leyline which is natural but they are mainly
in somerset south of west of Glastonbury. This article ties it in with the Joseph
and Jesus legend....



http://jesusinavalon.blogspot.co.uk/

Joseph of Arimathea in Avalon

The geometrical directions given in a 6th century manuscript called The prophecy of
Melkin found at Glastonbury abbey clearly indicates the Island of Avalon in Devon.
This is where the remains of Joseph of Arimathea are buried in an old tin vault
along with the Holy Grail. This is the island of Sarras and the Isle of Avalon spoken
of in the Graal literature and Joseph visited this Island as a tin merchant because it
was then known as the Island of Ictis.

Monday, July 23, 2012
Discovery of The Island of Avalon

Anyone who wishes to know the truth about where the location of the body of Jesus
is to be found should read this blog. It is a complicated story but it consists of
factual evidence. If you have ever wondered if the resurrection was a reality then
this is the blog for you.The Roman Catholic church has hood winked the world and
rumours that Joseph of Arimathea is buried at Glastonbury are only half truths.
The island of Avalon is revealed and what it contains is part of the biggest treasure
hunt.The evidence is long and at times, it is hard to overcome the accepted views
that many have been led to believe.

Let us start with a brief synopsis and then start the quest to find the Island of
Avalon which the reader will be shocked to learn is not in Glastonbury, but on the
South coast of Devon. What it contains however will only be understood by reading
this entire blog.

Read more....

http://jesusinavalon.blogspot.co.uk/

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/editpost.php?p=535731&do=editpost

Becky
4th February 2014, 16:22
Thanks for this Cider. it's funny that two of my favourite places - Glastonbury Tor and Avebury are on the same ley-line. I've been to both places many times.
There's a place in Glastonbury - it's a crystal shop now, that has 2 ley lines crossing through it, one of them is the St Michaels ley-line. I learnt my levels 1-4 spiritual healing there. I go through Stoke St Michael a lot too en route to various places.
Becky

learninglight
4th February 2014, 16:42
I live just off Glastonbury high street and hope to go up the Tor tomorrow with my son, the weather has been terrible and Prince Charlie boy couldn't keep the rain off with his visit to Somerset either haha

As far as the 'Arthur legend' goes i suppose it depends on what you read and watch as i have come across so many different 'versions' to do with him it's confusing to say the least

Talk about synchronicity, i'm currently reading 'The Dance of the Dragon; An Odyssey into Earth Energies and Ancient Religion' by Paul Broadhurst and Hamish Miller. A personal journey they took dowsing the Apollo/St Michael axis through Cornwall, France, Italy, Greece and Israel on a 10 year journey. I have learnt so much reading this book about Earth Energies and the meaning of the different names given to them i.e Dragon, Athena, Serpent, St Michael, Apollo etc i wish i had read it years ago :)

sharon

Cidersomerset
4th February 2014, 16:51
Thanks for this Cider. it's funny that two of my favourite places - Glastonbury
Tor and Avebury are on the same ley-line. I've been to both places many times.

When I was posting on Cartomancers thread I decided to pop over to Burrow mump
to see if I could see Glastonbury Tor thru binoculars it was wet and cloudy and I
could not see far, infact I doubt if you can see the Tor on a good day. I climbed to
the top where the ruined church is and it is higher than it looks. I was the only one
there which was just as well because on the climb down I tripped and went head
over heels and rolled down the bottom half of the hill and got covered in
mud , luckily missing the cow pats...LOL Anyway I got up looked around and
saw no one and pretended nothing had happened. Going back to my car laughing
to myself and feeling a little sore. I popped back to my brothers in Moorland
and he thought I was nuts...LOL

It must have looked like I was practicing for the cheese run, which these idiots in
Gloucestershire think is a fun day out ..LOL

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Becky
4th February 2014, 17:54
Hi all, have you seen this thread started by Spirithorse abut us meeting up in Glastonbury sometime soon?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68091-Anyone-interested-in-an-AVALON-SW-meet-up

It would be fun to meet up :-)

Cidersomerset
30th November 2015, 13:49
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The year is 872, and many of the separate kingdoms of what we now know as
England have fallen to the invading Danes, leaving the great kingdom of Wessex
standing alone and defiant under the command of King Alfred.

Against this turbulent backdrop lives our hero, Uhtred. Born the son of a Saxon
nobleman, he is captured by the Danes and raised as one of their own. Forced to
choose between the country of his birth and the people of his upbringing, his
loyalties are ever tested.

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On a quest to reclaim his birthright, Uhtred must tread a dangerous path between
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Cidersomerset
30th November 2015, 13:58
Now I have found this old thread and updated it a bit,
back in February this year I was on jury service in
Taunton which coincided with a rare loan out
of King Alfreds jewell for its home at the Ashmolean Oxford ,
back to Somerset where it was found in a field in
the 17th century....



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The Alfred Jewel

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We are delighted to announce a unique opportunity to see the celebrated Alfred Jewel in Somerset.

The Alfred Jewel 131 January -28 February 2015

The Alfred Jewel, one of the most celebrated treasures from Anglo-Saxon England,
is returning to Somerset for the first time in nearly 300 years.

The South West Heritage Trust has announced that, through the kindness of the
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford, the Jewel will be displayed at the Museum
of Somerset in Taunton during the month of February.

The Jewel, which dates from the late 9th century, was found near North Petherton
church in 1693. It is lavishly made of gold, enamel and rock crystal and includes
the image of a seated figure. It also bears a famous inscription which translates as
‘Alfred ordered me to be made’.

It has long been assumed that King Alfred the Great commissioned the Jewel, and
that it may have been his gift to the abbey at Athelney which he founded in
thanksgiving for his defeat of the Vikings in 878.

Tom Mayberry, Chief Executive of the South West Heritage Trust, said, “The Alfred
Jewel is a unique and compelling object which goes to the heart of West Country
history. It left Somerset in 1718 and has never returned, so this is a very special occasion.

“We are deeply grateful to the Ashmolean Museum for making possible the loan of
one of its greatest treasures. We are also very grateful to Arts Council England who
contributed to the costs of the exhibition and without whose practical support the
loan could not have happened.”

David Gwyther, Chairman of the South West Heritage Trust, said, “This is a fantastic
opportunity to see one of England’s undoubted national treasures. We hope as many
people as possible will visit the Museum of Somerset during February to experience
this unique and beautiful survival from the distant past.”

Dr Alexander Sturgis, Director of the Ashmolean Museum, said, ‘The Alfred Jewel is an
iconic object of Anglo-Saxon England and one of the most popular treasures at the
Ashmolean. For that reason, we rarely part with it, but it is a huge pleasure to lend
the Jewel to the Museum of Somerset and thereby return it to its home county, if
only for a month. I hope as many people as possible from Somerset and the region
go along to see the real Jewel and learn about this extraordinary and evocative object.’

The Alfred Jewel will be displayed at the Museum of Somerset, Taunton Castle, from
Saturday 31 January until Saturday 28 February. Talks by two leading Anglo-Saxon
experts will take place during the month – by Professor Simon Keynes of Cambridge
University on 11 February, and by Leslie Webster of the British Museum on 25 February.
Full details of these and other events are in the events listing on the ‘what’s on’ part
of our website.

The Museum’s opening hours during February are 10.00 am to 5.00 pm on Tuesdays to
Saturdays, with last entry at 4.30 pm. There will also be special late opening events on
Tuesdays. Admission to the museum is free.


http://museumofsomerset.org.uk/2015/01/16/the-alfred-jewel/