Barack Obama 2014

[marlowe]

Marlow. . Fyi I watched the video.

Serana Williams has made millions in her professional tennis career. Logically do you not think that at some point throughout all these years one of her opponents or an official would have demanded testing if they thought she at one time was a man?

There is not a chance in the hottest Hades the media hyper would not have jumped on that sorted hoopla if it were even remotely possible.

And by the way. . . Hormonal steroids can alter bone structure if the person taking steroids is still physically growing. Remember 'growth hormones ' for young adolescents if it appears they have stopped growing?

Of course steroids or even high testosterone or growth hormone can cause bone structure changes -- the steroid "brow" and "jaw"; known; -- bone is living tissue too! It doesn't even have to be "still growing".

Unless you can post a link to proof I'm afraid I don't believe you....

You're going to have post proof that the skull bulge can be created with steroids & I'm almost certain you can't....You're just making it up as you go along IMHO..

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This thread is pointless on a forum like this one. Sorry. I hate to be like that, but it just is.

this is your OPINION...You forgot to say that.....

What you're really saying is this forum is too politically correct for a thread like this RIGHT ?

[Wizard Of Ozark]

It just seems a little more appropriate for GLP or something, but that is, of course, my opinion. You're in the right. Carry on.

[DeDukshyn]

Marlow. . Fyi I watched the video.

Serana Williams has made millions in her professional tennis career. Logically do you not think that at some point throughout all these years one of her opponents or an official would have demanded testing if they thought she at one time was a man?

There is not a chance in the hottest Hades the media hyper would not have jumped on that sorted hoopla if it were even remotely possible.

And by the way. . . Hormonal steroids can alter bone structure if the person taking steroids is still physically growing. Remember 'growth hormones ' for young adolescents if it appears they have stopped growing?

Of course steroids or even high testosterone or growth hormone can cause bone structure changes -- the steroid "brow" and "jaw"; known; -- bone is living tissue too! It doesn't even have to be "still growing".

Unless you can post a link to proof I'm afraid I don't believe you....

You're going to have post proof that the skull bulge can be created with steroids & I'm almost certain you can't....You're just making it up as you go along IMHO.
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http://www.elementsbehavioralhealth.com/drug-abuse-addiction/steroids-what-you-need-to-know/




What Steroids Do
Anabolic steroids increase protein synthesis within cells, resulting in the buildup of cellular tissue (anabolism), especially in muscles. They also have androgenic and virilizing properties, meaning that they develop and maintain masculine characteristics. Steroids are used medically to induce male puberty, stimulate growth and appetite, and treat symptoms of wasting conditions like cancer and AIDS.

The anabolic effects of steroids increase bone remodeling and growth and stimulate bone marrow, which increases the production of red blood cells. Skeletal muscles can also be increased in size, building strength. The androgenic effects of steroids can lead to increased growth of body hair, increased vocal cord size, deepening of the voice, increased libido, suppression of natural sex hormones, and impaired production of sperm.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8256453





In rats and mice these agents increase longitudinal and periosteal bone growth and bone mass, thus demonstrating their anabolic action. They also decrease trabecular bone resorption in ovariectomized and orchidectomized rats, which indicates that they have anti-catabolic effects.

[cloud9]

I always thought Mrs. Obama looked a bit masculine and that her arms were, well... you know.... In more occasions that I care to remember I also thought that her face was mostly masculine and she is definitely big for a woman. Yeah, I know.... there are very tall women, I know... but arms, shoulders, neck, eyebrows, face, etc, all together is something more....
Even a few months ago there was a thread about Obama being gay and I immediately thought that it wouldn't be a problem because Michelle was a man and nobody knew about it....
The Williams sisters are a whole different story.... they definitely look masculine but the steroids are a very good explanation for it but in Michelle's case, why would be she taking steroids? She's not an athlete...

[DeDukshyn]

I have seen many women that you'd mistake for men and vice versa -- many, many of them -- and not because they were "trans"- something. They were REAL people with real feelings trying to fit into this world ...

The things "we'll" turn into a "conspiracy" into get our jollies ... sigh

[Robin]

For anybody seriously interested in this thread (without bias and without letting their emotions get in the way of rational, objective thinking), you might want to check out Bill's earlier thread:

Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65473-Who-really-is-Barack-Obama-THIS-APPEARS-TO-BE-THE-TRUTH.)

Specifically this video on the thread:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F5LlFhp1a4

I don't really want to get into a debate on this topic, but I do want to say that there is no doubt that at least Barack Obama is a fraud. His birth certificate and life story were fabricated for his prophetic role as president, and I think that is is just as likely that other elements of his life -- including other people close to him -- were fabricated as well. It is a FACT that Barack Obama's life story is fabricated...so it makes one wonder what else could be fabricated concerning his life and elsewhere in the government.

This woman's testimonial reveals that she knew Barry Soetoro (Obama) when she was younger in Hawaii. She claims that he was flauntingly homosexual and was renown to be rude, ostentatious, and even openly gay towards other men. I'm not saying this woman's testimonial is fact, but it definitely adds more credence to the theory that Michelle is a man.

Fabricating one's life story is nothing new to the agenda of the PTB. One of the earliest examples is Alexander Hamilton, the first secretary of the Treasury of the U.S...whose birth place and life story were also fabricated. Hamilton was pure evil and was used at that point in time to create an American system based off of debt, lies, dissension, and wealthy sponsors, which has led to the materialistic, divided, and sh** society that is America today. I know this for a FACT. But that's a whole different story...

I understand why some of you may be upset at the content of this thread, and there is no doubt that male features on a woman do not ALWAYS constitute that woman being a man, but it is important to look at things objectively -- without emotions getting in the way of rational thinking -- and to stop accusing the OP for starting a thread based on false assumptions.

One of the key tactics of the PTB is to disguise any form of disdain for Barack Obama by labeling it as being racist. This is the perfect way to quell any rumors and conspiracy theories, and the perfect way to further their agenda.

This is exactly why they decided to put this particular individual as president at this point in time, because the PTB know that this is a very sensitive time in human history, both with incoming energies as well as global conflicts. The PTB KNOW that putting in a president with an African/Muslim background, they can win the hearts of much of the world population...more so than another white, male...which has been the standard for U.S. presidents. They decided to go with something different...to, well...operate under the banner of CHANGE to mind-control the people of the U.S. in thinking that things really are different.

If they put another white, rich, male as president after George W. Bush...the American public would probably be in even more dis-contempt with the government, and may start to revolt. But with most Americans' five-sense reality and heavily dumbed-down brains, the PTB knew that Obama would be the perfect person to be in office to project a certain image...one of CHANGE both PHYSICALLY and ECONOMICALLY.

I see many reasons why they may want to project Michelle --whether or not she is a woman -- as being masculine to the public...because the fact is that the PTB KNOW how the human psyche works...and they KNOW that subliminal messages can reach the subconscious, causing a change in collective behavior. It does not matter if Michelle is a woman or not, because it is her physique that can still produce a change in behavior in the collective minds of Americans as well as her First Lady campaigns (such as drinking fluoridated water).

The next logical step for the PTB is to put Hilary Clinton in office, because it would be even further CHANGE in the minds of dumbed-down Americans. People may start to think: Barack Obama didn't do all that great as president, and we have already had too many rich, white men as past presidents. What we need is feminine energy, YES! That will do it! Hilary will be our savior! She will help quell the economic downturn and provide national stability!"

And things will get even worse because not only are U.S. presidents used as puppets by the puppeteers, but Hilary is actually part of one of the bloodlines. But the American public will still not understand how this system works...and will still be as brain-dead as ever.

And when Hilary is elected, there will be conspiracy theories about her all over the internet, including Avalon. There will be threads where members objectively and logically attack Hilary, and there will be some members who will say that they are being misogynists.

It's all a ploy of the PTB...pitting people up against one another and guiding arguments based around false assumptions of racism and misogyny. One can put spin on things...but one cannot hide objective facts.

[Rocky_Shorz]

In an interview with the Daily Times Herald, Iowa Republican senate candidate Sam Clovis claimed that President Obama’s race is saving him from impeachment...

after the huge blow up by Seagal and the spinners, now they are trying to explain a reason it won't be happening...

audio clip (http://www.mixcloud.com/DailyTimesHerald/clovis-on-obama-impeachment/)


Clovis said, “I don’t think so, and I’ll tell you why. It’s not that what he has done would not rise to the level where it might be impeachable. I don’t think it’s a practical, pragmatic issue. And simply because I don’t think the nation is ready for it. You know, within this generation, we went through the impeachment of a president, and it didn’t end well, and now we have a situation where race is thrown into the cards as well. Whether we like it or not, race is an issue.”

Clovis was asked if Obama was white would he be impeached. He answered, “I wouldn’t say that I think people would.”

He was asked if he thought the only reason why Congress isn’t going after impeachment is the color of the president’s skin. Clovis answered,”I would say there are people in the House of Representatives right now that would very much like to take the opportunity to start the process. And I think the reason that they’re not is because they’re concerned about the media.” link (http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04/08/republican-senate-candidate-obamas-blackness-shielding-impeachment.html)

[lizfrench]

This culture is one grossly overproduced horribly acted porn movie. Don't you get that these have to be facts?
Look at the rest of the script.
And we keep watching it for godsake. Mike Obama. C'mon.
I hope it's true. It's just too funny. It isn't a meaningless waste of your attention at all. I hope these revelations
don't drive anyone to suicide.

I've often wondered if McEnroe was a girl.

hahahahah;)

[araucaria]

I'm not saying this woman's testimonial is fact, but it definitely adds more credence to the theory that Michelle is a man.

While I agree with much of your post, it is a problem that ‘it definitely adds more credence to the theory that Michelle is a man’ even if the story is untrue. There is always so much mud that sticks and any statement of perceived truth is dismissed on the grounds of sexism, genderism, racism, nationalism or anti-semitism. Men in women’s sports could be outed in the days before transgender status become common and the whole subject became too sensitive. To say that Serena would have been outed long ago is simply not the case. I described what happened to Martina Hingis when she merely mentioned the idea. The psychopaths like to take advantage of people being nice and seeing the niceness in others.

The fact that it is made so difficult for us to talk about one thing in isolation means that we should be very careful to avoid confusing separate issues like gender and colour – or sport and politics as we are doing here. Michelle Obama is in politics, albeit vicariously, not sport, so she has no reason to be taking performance-enhancing drugs. And another all-important difference with Serena is that Michelle is claimed to be merely a transvestite, i.e. still a man, in woman’s clothing. No one here has refuted the images of more than one ‘wardrobe malfunction’ clearly showing a male crotch. Have these been photoshopped, or can more be found?

[Rocky_Shorz]

if you look at the break in the legs, you'll see it is at belly height...

sorry Michelle, for all my dorky friends, I think you're wonderful...


even if you are a dude... :pound:


just kidding...

[araucaria]

The word dorky might come to mind here, but what does having stupid or contemptible friends say about you or your comment? You asking for something below the belt?

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[Daphne]

I can't figure out how to post a picture from my ipad directly to a thread, so I changed my profile picture to a pic of my own hand with my distinctly longer ring finger than my index finger- yet I am most definitely a female! Once I heard that argument in the video, I stopped paying attention! I wonder if my parents gave me a sex change operation in infancy?
Upon edit I see that my profile pic did not update. The photo of my hand is in my pix album if anyone is interested in seeing it.

[Lettherebelight]

This is an interesting discussion regarding both Williams sisters. Stranger things have occurred throughout history. I am still on the fence post, although there is a strong wind in the form of evidence making me lean a little towards the transgender direction. Michelle Obama, however, can be seen in childhood photos (on the internet) with her family, and she does look like a little girl.

The same cannot be said of Serena and Venus Williams. The interview with their father in the OP video speaks volumes about his clear motives for the acquisition of money, coming straight from the 'horse's mouth'. I have not seen anything on the internet regarding their alleged adoption, however. All information that I have seen simply states they are the daughters of Ms Price and Mr Williams.

It is an interesting point that neither of the sisters have had serious relationships with males, nor have expressed any interest in having children of their own. I guess having their own babies would be the real (and mabe only) proof that this allegation could not possibly be true.

[DeDukshyn]

I can't figure out how to post a picture from my ipad directly to a thread, so I changed my profile picture to a pic of my own hand with my distinctly longer ring finger than my index finger- yet I am most definitely a female! Once I heard that argument in the video, I stopped paying attention! I wonder if my parents gave me a sex change operation in infancy?
Upon edit I see that my profile pic did not update. The photo of my hand is in my pix album if anyone is interested in seeing it.

I mentioned this earlier but had my post deleted because it had extra stuff in it that was not needed. In reality, all a longer ring finger than a pointer finger means is your mother had relatively high levels of testosterone in her body while carrying you. I didn't watch the videos but if it claims that you have to be a man to have the level of testosterone to develop this -- it has nothing to do with personal testosterone at all - only the mother's during pregnancy. The chromosomes will determine the sex but the level of testosterone in the mother creates certain markers in the offspring to potentially reveal that level, while you were developing. The length ratio between the ring and pointer finger is one of these markers.

Anyone interested on understanding the incredible power of testosterone, I watched a good doc by nat geo on testosterone called: The Testosterone Factor (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/explorer/videos/testosterone-factor/). You may be able to find the whole episode on youtube.

Probably good for everyone to watch and put to rest some misunderstandings and assumptions we sometimes make.

[araucaria]

I am quite happy to accept this statement as true, but I have two objections all the same. A more pertinent question would be: Did you ever mistake a transvestite for the real thing? I think that for quite a few people the answer would be yes. They might even make glaring mistakes within close range of cases with limited means and/or talent that wouldn’t fool others.

Secondly, this is a vague generalization about maleness and femaleness being more like a continuum, with awkward borderline cases in both directions. However, a court of law does not deal in generalities: it knows that men often murder their spouses/companions, but it never strays from the particular instance: Did Pistorius murder Reeva Steenkamp? It may know that so-and-so is a habitual thief, but it wants to know if on this occasion he stole that item. In this strict environment, it matters little what Serena is up to if we want to know about Michelle Obama. A successful deception is a mixture of skill, distance and gullibility. Obama would have plenty of skill available, and distance from the suspicious; and since mass behaviour is generally more extreme than in smaller groups, mass gullibility may be greater than the sum of its parts.

We know that mass deception is going on on the broadest scale at the highest level of the elite. We also that increasing numbers, including grassroots people, are somehow dissatisfied with who/how they are, and are putting on an act of some sort, whether it be with botox, sex changes, transvestism, electoral promises, Internet trolling, you name it. To be able to generalize and say Everybody’s doing it both makes it statistically more likely that a particular instance follows that trend and yet legally no more provable. The only provable outcome of this version of The Emperor’s New Clothes would be literally for Obama’s wife to be caught with his pants down. Something like when Pope John VIII (aka Pope Joan) gave the game away by giving birth to a child. After that, a special chair was designed to check the pope’s undercarriage, confirmed by the famous pronouncement ‘duos habet et bene pendentes’.

That is not likely to happen. But you see, we do have a precedent, courtesy of the Vatican itself :)

However this particular affair pans out or not, at some stage, some such irrefutable evidence is going to turn up in some area. Alternatively, public awareness will have risen to the point where that is no longer necessary. What is important here and now is how it is a dry run for any kind of disclosure, and frankly, for self-proclaimed experts, we are not doing very well. ‘Michelle is a man? Oh she can’t be, I like her so much!’ Or, ‘Oh she can’t be, I am a strong woman too.’ Or that old favourite, ‘Oh she can’t be, I have booked front row seats for Take 666 of The Financial Collapse next week; you shouldn’t be distracted from that, it is much more important.’ Or, ‘Obama’s due for assassination’. Oh yeah? By whom, what for, and most of all, who the hell is Obama anyway?

Dummies for dummies. Here is something you can try with your kids. Threaten to (playfully) smack them with one hand. Then when their attention is fixed, smack them with the other hand. Stage two: when they have cottoned on to this ploy, you can smack them with the same hand. Stage three: game over.

[Peace of Mind]

Wow, didn’t expect to see something like this here. The wild speculating nature of this place is growing by the day. I guess you must be doing something right when your plight to success is met with concerns of fraud. The world is filled with disempowered people always looking for excuses to place on other people accomplishments, if only they were more focused and committed to their own dreams they too will realize just how easy life can be. With that said, I’m still under the assumption that this place would be 100 times more concerned with the handling of our governments...more then trying to find out the gender of the president’s wife.

These accusations are poison, there is nothing of importance to come out of it, nothing! And when the defamation of character is later seen…there is often no apologies or admittance of wrong doing to be found. People just forget and move on safe later to defame/support someone else from the confines of their computer space…which I’m sure holds no indication/supportive information to their beliefs. Nothing good ever comes out of these discussions…just more division. Hopefully, one day soon we will all realize this and start living up to our potential.
Peace

[blufire]

When I first viewed the video of Michelle when it was posted under the thread about her waving the Chinese flags, I never thought about race at all.
For the record, I have longer ring fingers than index fingers and my blood line grandchildren call me "grandma". My daughter and one granddaughter also have longer ring fingers than index fingers. My mixed race granddaughter (black/white) has longer index than ring fingers. So what does the hand thing prove? Nothing.
I was more convinced by looking at Michelle's neck and shoulder muscles (especially her trapezius muscles) and shoulder width than anything. Her arms and shoulders are extremely cut for a woman her age. Most women start to become more flabby than ripped at around age 45 even if they do work out. It goes with the hormonal changes known as peri-menopause and menopause.
Her head to body height is also telling. There are tall women but, it's true that their head to body ratios is, as depicted in the video, 1:7 rather than 1:8.
And, as Corey Everson demonstrated back in the 80's, women can have a muscular physic without bulking by doing lighter lifts with longer reps. Michelle's shoulders and arms are pretty bulky compared to her legs.
It's strange that a few years ago one could find more information on Michael Lavaugn Robinson. Google has made it harder now. I think that she is a man posing as a woman.

As a rule your statement about women 45 and older being more ‘softer’ than ripped is true.

But there are women like me (currently 55) who were very athletic when younger and remain uncharacteristically active. I am still very muscular and ripped because of the heavy farm work I do. The picture on my profile page shows this a little (50 or 51 (?) in that picture).

If a woman works out when she is young her body will retain ‘muscle memory’ . . . even when she is older if she works out with weights and eats properly she can regain that muscle definition, cut and bulk.

Michelle Obama is not and never was a man and it is very disappointing and troubling to see this type of nonsense on PA, especially with the comments from a couple on this thread that we need to be entertained because of all the heavy stuff occurring globally. To be entertained at someone else’s expense is cruel, abusive and flat out wrong. This is something I see happening in our world today at a rapidly increasing pace.

Those pictures of Michelle showing a penis have been altered. She is simply masculine looking and has worked out with weights . . . . probably lighter weights with numerous repetitions to become defined and ripped without the addition muscle mass gain. She has not taken any steroids like Serena Williams.

Do you not think that if the media had seen this (possible penis) in ‘real life’ with all the pictures that have been taken of her that they would have not had a field day with it???

Seriously people where has all the common sense and logic gone?

I thought Project Avalon was a place to ferret out Truth and to provide information that would encourage people to wake up and take control of their lives and to be more effective in healing and changing our world to the positive.

There has been a change in the forum (something I actually predicted last September) in the last few months and it is troubling and sad to see.

[araucaria]

For anyone uncomfortable with the content of this thread, I want to make some general comments.

Reaching personal integrity – I say reaching, for it is a process, some would call it truth-seeking – means being able at last to square your behaviour in the world with who you really are. We all have our various weaker, darker aspects where we fail to achieve this. We deceive ourselves and others in various ways large and small, in other words we act a part. In a sense we are all to some degree crisis actors as seen at Sandy Hook for example. And Sandy Hook is an ultimatum to quit doing this.

The time is coming – call it disclosure, enlightenment, the Last Judgment or whatever – when all these little games are going to stop. Those who are fairly close to where they should be are going to be in a better position to put their own house in order and then help others. Some people are going to be a long way off base and are going to need a lot of help. Others are going to be OK personally but so surprised and shocked at discovering the truth about what others have been up to that they are not going to be of much use. We need to get as many people as possible as ready as possible to face the coming task.

The analysis here of the personal situation of a given public figure is a sandbox attempt to do this work. This is not about Michelle. Even if she has done the worst people can imagine, which would very likely be going too far, it is still no big deal and nothing unforgivable. We are learning to cope with things previously unimaginable and to do so without judgment or emotion, just unconditional love. The point being that some entities have been so far off-base that they have been, unsuspected, doing things that are totally unimaginable, and these things are also going to enter the public consciousness to be dealt with as well. We who pride ourselves on being perhaps a little more aware than most have a great responsibility in this regard. We are talking about reconciliation on the vastest scale in the wake of genocidal crimes on that same scale.

And here we are getting all hot and bothered talking about Obama possibly introducing gay marriage into the White House before it became legal and without telling anyone – all this without the slightest reference to the question of whether or not he has been doing a good job. The lack of perspective is truly breathtaking. We have a long way to go. Don’t hope for too much disclosure just yet.

[Shezbeth]

NOTHING is above question. EVER.

Booya. Thank you Cardillac for posting this thread topic. Its discussion may have wavered a bit, but the general core which seems to be:
"Is it possible that Michelle Obama (and others) is (are) either a transvestite/transgender individual?"
... appears intact.

I don't take the video as being uncontestable/irrefutable, but I am willing to recognize that given my limited understanding of the historical facts (I.e. DNA) and in light of some of the images presented in that video, I have to conclude that it is IMpossible for me to rule OUT the possibility that the thesis of this thread is false.

Especially in observance of the MASSIVE effort to conceal, suppress, obfuscate, and fabricate BO's past, identity, origins, etc. Again, unable to conclude the possibility, but neither able to discount the possibility.

[Ahnung-quay]

Old pictures can also be photoshopped or altered. Some of the Obama's pictures of their earlier years together do appear to have been altered. Ever seen any pictures of Michelle pregnant? I haven't but, I guess that doesn't mean they don't exist.

I find the emotion being displayed here on this thread interesting. These are opinions. Why can't we agree to disagree and stop turning it into what it is not?

I agree with what Shezbeth just posted. I couldn't have said it better. And, I'll add that we should demand transparency from anyone running for President in the future, if Obama doesn't declare martial law and stay in office. No matter what they are, these people have power and they are dangerous.

[araucaria]

I'll add that we should demand transparency from anyone running for President in the future.
And what does transparency mean? It means voters with integrity electing politicians with integrity. When you elect someone, you vote for the politician, and you get the whole person. Integrity means that there is no major incompatibility between the two. Voters with integrity – and we have to include them in this process – elect politicians with integrity. We have to include the voters because they often prefer to elect people despite or indeed on account of their dishonesty, thinking that they will better serve their voters’ interests.

The lack of integrity in say Obama, as a possible example, would lie not in the chosen lifestyle per se but in the deception, politics being currently run on the basis of blackmailable weaknesses. Weaknesses like the one in question here could be laughed off by a more tolerant society as long as it doesn’t affect the way he does his job. It will be said that this is what got his the job in the first place. Well, accidents do happen sometimes. JFK only became president because his elder brother, who was being groomed for the job, got killed in World War II. Perhaps, instead of having to commit some horrendous crime to make himself blackmailable, Obama’s sexual orientation was mistakenly considered enough to hold him. If he is threatened with assassination, this may be a sign that he is becoming too independent. They don’t assassinate docile puppets. George W. was the first president elected in a year ---0 who wasn’t murdered.

If this were the situation – I am not saying it is, but it doesn’t have to be to make my point – one imagines the benefit of Obama being able to come out of the closet and thereby enhance his integrity and independence. It could possibly happen in France (where the popular outgoing mayor of Paris Bertrand Delanoe is openly gay), but in prudish America? It all comes back to the voters. Maybe, just maybe, while still suffering from the trauma of the JFK murder, they will allow their respect for the president and the presidency to override their puritan morals in time to save them. If this is what happens, they will do it without the need for ballot boxes to register their vote or mainstream newspapers to report on it.


Ed: typo

[sigma6]

this just keeps getting better and better...
Using Afghanistan as their base of operations?

Obama Has Partnered With The Taliban For U.S Geopolitical agenda?
http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2014/04/mh370-hostage-crisis-alive-in-serious-condition-20-smuggled-into-pakisan-ru-secret-service-says-2480638.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/10690/images/map-north.jpg

In new information from Russian intelligence secret service sources regarding passengers on missing Malaysian Airlines MH370 are alive after the flight landed in Afghanistan, the source says 20 Asian specialists were smuggled into Pakistan, the passengers had been divided into seven groups and all are in serious condition.

Russian’s FSB secret service have said anonymously that the plane was hijacked and flown close to the Pakistan border. Adding to that, the Russian news source MKRU restates that all MH370 passengers were alive, had been divided into seven groups, and all but 20 are living in mud huts with almost no food.


The new report added that 20 passengers who were Asian ‘specialists’ have been smuggled into a bunker in Pakistan, the report added.

“All passengers are alive, are divided into seven groups and live in “daub” hand to mouth. All people are in serious condition,” MKRU says.

“MK9RU) has learned that “missing March 8 airliner companies Malaysia Airlines and China Southern Airlines with 227 passengers and 12 crew members were captured southeast of Kandahar, on the territory of Afghanistan’s border with Pakistan.”

[sigma6]

MH370 Hostage Crisis: Photo Of Plane-like Image In Afghanistan Described


http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2014/04/mh370-hostage-crisis-photo-of-plane-like-image-in-afghanistan-matches-coordinates-2480640.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/8435/images/DETAIL_PICTURE__17272624.jpg

A photograph of what appears to be a large jet is in the exact area Russian secret Service said the missing MH370 Boeing is, along with allegations against authorities involved in the search ad rescue (SAR).

The above photo correlates with new reports out of Russia regarding the whereabouts of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. The image is taken of an area near Chaman, to the south-east of Kandahar.

Reader “Oleg” on April 2 at 12:05 in comments on the “MK” site posted a link to an object like a plane with a broken wing, standing on the border with Pakistan.”

[sigma6]

Indonesian MH370 Passenger’s Calls To Sister Not Investigated

http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2014/04/indonesian-mh370-passengers-missed-calls-not-investigated-2480616.html

MH370 passenger’s two calls to sister after plane went missing not investigated

The public is advised not to believe the sister of a passenger onboard Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 who says she received two missed calls from her brother on March 11 and 13. Again, a top official is telling the world not to believe what people see and hear.

Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Aziz Kaprawi denied Sunday receiving a report from the Indonesian family explaining they had received “missed calls” from Firman Candra Siregar, an Indonesian passenger onboard flight MH370.

Firman Candra Siregar was returning to work in Beijing when he boarded Flight MH370.

The minister was responding to an Indonesian online news portal report that quoted the victim’s sister January Siregar saying she received missed calls on March 11 and March 13 from her younger brother via Skype on her iPad after the aircraft went missing on March 8.

Abdul Aziz claims the Malaysia government had never heard from the Indonesian authorities regarding the matter.

He urged the public not to believe everything they read on news portals as the information posted was sometimes unverified, unconfirmed and could be misleading.

“All the latest developments and information regarding MH370 are delivered to the family members through daily briefings by acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein and the relevant authorities.

He spoke to reporters after launching a smiling campaign at the Parit Raja pasar tani.

The online portal also reported that January has been awaiting a reply from the Malaysian Government and Malaysia Airlines Systems regarding her report to authorities on the “missed calls”.

The public, on the other hand, and even some loved ones of MH370 passengers are advising to not believe everything that’s heard from officials and the media regarding the crisis.

Thirteen days ago, the same grieving Indonesian family angrily denied that they had authorised an American law firm to lodge a multi-million dollar legal action against the airline.

The girlfriend of Phillip Woods, an MH370 passenger, said she did not believe what officials are saying because of too many contradictions and dismissal of eyewitness reports. Sarah Bajc, girlfriend of Malaysian Flight 370 passenger Philip Wood, claimed on CNN she was told about eye witness reports that MH370 was seen “accompanied by fighter planes” before its ‘disappearance’. Bajc said she and other passengers family members are confident the plane is not only still intact, but that the passengers have also survived.

Bajc told the stunned CFR member and CNN anchor Erin Burnett, “Many people are saying that the United States is involved … but the general thinking across the families here and even non-families … this was a military operation of some sort.”

Officials also quickly dismissed over 20 eyewitness reports of seeing an odd, low-flying jumbo jet in the first hours of the missing plane crisis. According to officials, no individual on the MH370 investigation team have never followed up with any of those eyewitnesses, including those reports that came from the Maldives.

[sigma6]

I am going to guess that several taliban dressed as civilians overtook the plane with boxcutters,
then made the plane invisible to radar and redirected it passt a dozen countries military radar and decided to kidnap 20 Asian electronic specialists...

Oh, and I am sure there is no connection to Rockefeller.... And, oh we better call the US Military to come and save us.... :rolleyes:

Can anyone say Munchausen syndrome?



MH370 Hostage Crisis: Alive In Afghanistan
http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2014/04/mh370-hostage-crisis-terrorists-hitch-holding-passengers-2480634.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/10690/images/Afgan_etc_pol.jpg

Terrorists hijacked Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370, flew the plane to Afghanistan, and passengers are alive but in severe condition, according to a Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets on Thursday that newspapers across the world are reporting this afternoon.

The plane with 239 passengers has been missing since March 8th. The paper also was told that all passengers survived the hard landing but were in severe condition due to a food shortage.

The new report, albeit not confirmed by the international investigative team dictating what Malaysian officials can and cannot say publicly, concurs with Russian officials’ earlier statement, that the plane had been hijacked and flewn to a location near Pakistan.

The report also concurs with officials’ messages that loved ones of passengers have recieved at briefings that led them to believe their loved ones are alive.

An intelligence agent reported anonymously to the Russian newspaper that the plane was in Afghanistan near the border with Pakistan.


“Pilots are not guilty, the plane was hijacked by unknown terrorists. We know that the name of the terrorist who gave instructions to pilots is ‘Hitch’,” the report says.

“The plane is in Afghanistan not far from Kandahar near the border with Pakistan,” claims the newspaper, that has a circulation of about 1.1 million.

The report added, “Plane is on the road near the mountain range, and has a broken wing. Maybe it made a hard landing. All passengers survived. They live in shacks almost without food.”

The report claims all the high-tech expert passengers on the plane were taken into a bunker in Pakistan. The intellectual value of those experts has been estimated to be many billions of U.S. dollars.

“Twenty Asian specialists were captured. There is one Japanese among them,” it said, possibly referring to Freescale Semiconductor company employees.

[Atlas]

I am going to guess that several taliban dressed as civilians overtook the plane with boxcutters,

The airport's cameras captured all the passengers, there is no way 'several taliban dressed as civilians' could have boarded the plane unnoticed.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

This sounds pretty much like the next 9/11.

Something will come out that scares people out of airborne transportation.

The walking populace ---> easier to control. ~God Emperor of Dune

(beware the ides of march indeed)!

[Precog]

They have cameras up there that can capture an ant walking on the ground and this is the picture we get. I don't buy it. At least with the Sandy Hook Hoax we had film footage that destroyed the story we were told and with this we have nothing but one lie after another from the propaganda machine that is the CIA. It's not even worth talking about because there is no proof of anything.

[seeker/reader]

Looks like you just missed your chance at definitive proof. ;)

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President Obama Saves FLOTUS From A Marilyn Monroe Moment

President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama were in Austin, Texas on April 10 for a speaking engagement at the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library. While heading to and returning from the event commemorating the landmark Civil Rights Act, Michelle encountered strong gusts of wind that nearly blew up her black-and-blue striped skirt.

Thankfully, Barack was by his wife every step of the way and was able to save FLOTUS from a Marilyn Monroe moment. They seemed to laugh at the embarrassing situation, however, we would've been distraught at the thought of photographers' cameras going off.

We can only describe as the most graceful (and stylish) way to avoid a windy wardrobe malfunction. Way to go, Barack!

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1734357/thumbs/o-MICHELLE-OBAMA-570.jpg

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[sigma6]

They have cameras up there that can capture an ant walking on the ground and this is the picture we get. I don't buy it. At least with the Sandy Hook Hoax we had film footage that destroyed the story we were told and with this we have nothing but one lie after another from the propaganda machine that is the CIA. It's not even worth talking about because there is no proof of anything.

Russian setup? Because this is where they said it was apparently from day 1

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I am going to guess that several taliban dressed as civilians overtook the plane with boxcutters,

The airport's cameras captured all the passengers, there is no way 'several taliban dressed as civilians' could have boarded the plane unnoticed.

Sorry Buares, that was my ironic "iconic" twisted humour... I agree with you exactly... ; )

[sigma6]

Point is... This is becoming another major false flag extravaganza botched job. The Cabal is DESPERATE. I am really starting to believe it. The world is too small. Technological advancement is marching forward. There is a reason the US/Anglo/Vatican Cabal had a policy for the last 75 years of "bombing other countries back to the Stone Age" as they so proudly like to boast...

All that is unraveling. It will be many decades before other countries trust America unfortunately, George Bush, and Murder Inc sold the US public down the river in exchange for all the loot they could steal with the getaway retirement plan to head to South America, and hang with their Nazi cohorts.... Everybody who stood by and participated, allowed it, accepted it, did nothing about it, denied it, etc, etc, etc... was an implicit "facilitator" in a word we are all guilty to some degree...

Imagine living in a neighborhood where everyone knows someone raped and pillaged someone everyone knew, and everyone just went about their business, because they had such a nice house, car, front gate, guard... that would be the twilight zone. But that is what we are living in isn't it... 1984 (Big Brother) and MK Ultra, electronic warfare, the same technology that was public news during the Iraq War (it's not like it's a secret anymore)

And by now people should be hip to the fact, that anything the US Govt uses on it's "enemies" it uses on it's own people, according to their own legal interpretation of "enemy" of the State is (which is pretty much everyone outside Washington DC...

It's a rogue government being exposed after almost 100 years for actually being infiltrated and taken over by an organized Crime Syndicate... and the rest of the World is politely asking who would want to sh** in the same bed they sleep in...

It is time to wake up and smell the coffee (if you can get past the overwhelming stench of corruption) that is so rife in America... it is becoming a dream world inseparable from "Hollywood"

[ThePythonicCow]

Zerohedge has posted a devastating report by Seymour Hersh regarding the Obama administration's efforts to destroy Syria, and Turkey's effort's to provoke Obama into doing that, including with the Sarin gas attacks initially blamed on Syrian President Assad, but actually instigated by Turkey.

The report is too long to repost here, but the details, including comments and testimony from major insiders from the US government, are devastating. As Zerohedge concludes "Weep for the Republic. It is no more."

To read the report, go to Obama On The Red Line And On The Rat Line (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-13/obama-red-line-and-rat-line).

The "Red Line" refers to Obama's statement that he would not allow Assad to use chemical weapons, and that doing so would be crossing a "red line".

The "Rat Line" refers to the covert transfer of weapons from the conquered Libya, via Benghazi and Turkey, to the "rebels" inside Syria. After the Sept. 11, 2012, attack in Benghazi, Obama started withdrawing from that weapons transfer. This withdrawal was putting Prime Minister Erdoğan of Turkey in a difficult position. Erdoğan needed to gain control of Syria, rather than having the rebels inside Syria lose their rebellion against Assad and turn against Turkey instead.

So Turkey setup the Syrian rebels to make the Ghouta chemical attack that occurred on 21 August 2013 during the Syrian civil war, intending to have Assad blamed for it.

A sample of the actual gas used made its way via the Russians to British intelligence, who determined that it was not the Sarin gas that Assad had from Russian supplies, but rather home made sarin gas. The British got cold feet on the Syrian assault, and General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs, head military officer in the US, told Obama "no", two days before the massive assault was to commence bombing all Syria's military capacity into the stone age.

It's an important report.

[ThePythonicCow]

Aha - a couple of tabs further down in my reading - I come across this analysis of Seymour Hersh's The Red Line and the Rat Line (London Review of Books) (http://www.lrb.co.uk/2014/04/06/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line) article by Seth Ferris in Veterans Today: Denial of Turkish Involvement in Sarin Gas Attack is a Very Convenient Admission (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/11/neo-ferris-denial-of-turkish-involvement-in-sarin-gas-attack/).

Seth Ferris asks why Seymour Hersh's article is being published now. Many such a story does not see the light of day in "respectable" journals. Why now?

Seth Ferris comes to the conclusion that this article is intended to attack Turkey’s Erdoğan:

This story is being published now because it is being spun on itself. The US is hoping that it will damage Turkey, and in particular Erdogan. It won’t admit this either of course, but if someone has to take the flak for the continuing failures in Syria, will it be the US or its weaker ally?

Erdogan is making the wrong noises from a US point of view, wanting to recast modern Turkey as a new Ottoman Empire. We can expect him to be pushed out by internal forces over this story, with US assistance, while the US continues publicly proclaiming his innocence.
Turkey is without doubt a key nation in the Anglo-American versus BRICS nations conflicts, especially in the US versus Russia conflicts.

Apparently Turkey’s Erdoğan is getting pressure from the US, and Seymour Hersh's article (with its key sources from former administration officials) is being used to apply some of that pressure.

[Rocky_Shorz]

OK Here it is...

Pulitzer-Prize Winning Reporter Sy Hersh: Benghazi Is a HUGE Scandal … But Not For the Reason You Think


Beyond Partisan Politics: What Benghazi Is Really About

Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh – who broke the stories of the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam and the Iraq prison torture scandals, which rightfully disgraced the Nixon and Bush administrations’ war-fighting tactics – reported last week:

In January, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report on the assault by a local militia in September 2012 on the American consulate and a nearby undercover CIA facility in Benghazi, which resulted in the death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three others. The report’s criticism of the State Department for not providing adequate security at the consulate, and of the intelligence community for not alerting the US military to the presence of a CIA outpost in the area, received front-page coverage and revived animosities in Washington, with Republicans accusing Obama and Hillary Clinton of a cover-up.

That’s the part you’ve heard about: failure to protect the personnel at the embassy.

But then Hersh breaks the deeper story wide open:

A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdoğan administrations. It pertained to the rat line. By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn’t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer. (A spokesperson for Petraeus denied the operation ever took place.)

The operation had not been disclosed at the time it was set up to the congressional intelligence committees and the congressional leadership, as required by law since the 1970s. The involvement of MI6 enabled the CIA to evade the law by classifying the mission as a liaison operation. The former intelligence official explained that for years there has been a recognised exception in the law that permits the CIA not to report liaison activity to Congress, which would otherwise be owed a finding. (All proposed CIA covert operations must be described in a written document, known as a ‘finding’, submitted to the senior leadership of Congress for approval.) Distribution of the annex was limited to the staff aides who wrote the report and to the eight ranking members of Congress – the Democratic and Republican leaders of the House and Senate, and the Democratic and Republicans leaders on the House and Senate intelligence committees. This hardly constituted a genuine attempt at oversight: the eight leaders are not known to gather together to raise questions or discuss the secret information they receive.

The annex didn’t tell the whole story of what happened in Benghazi before the attack, nor did it explain why the American consulate was attacked. ‘The consulate’s only mission was to provide cover for the moving of arms,’ the former intelligence official, who has read the annex, said. ‘It had no real political role.’

Hersh isn’t the first to report on this major scandal.

We’ve extensively documented that the bigger story behind the murder of ambassador Chris Stevens at the Benghazi embassy in Libya is that the embassy was the center of U.S. efforts to arm jihadis in Syria who are trying to topple the Syrian government.

We’ve also noted that this is not a partisan issue … both parties greenlighted regime change in Syria years ago, and both parties have tried to cover up what was really going on in Benghazi.

Last August, CNN touched on the weapons smuggling aspect of Benghazi.

The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.

They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission. WND alleges that it was not a real consulate. And former CIA officer Philip Giraldi confirms:

Benghazi has been described as a U.S. consulate, but it was not. It was an information office that had no diplomatic status. There was a small staff of actual State Department information officers plus local translators. The much larger CIA base was located in a separate building a mile away. It was protected by a not completely reliable local militia. Base management would have no say in the movement of the ambassador and would not be party to his plans, nor would it clear its own operations with the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. In Benghazi, the CIA’s operating directive would have been focused on two objectives: monitoring the local al-Qaeda affiliate group, Ansar al-Sharia, and tracking down weapons liberated from Colonel Gaddafi’s arsenal. Staff consisted of CIA paramilitaries who were working in cooperation with the local militia. The ambassador would not be privy to operational details and would only know in general what the agency was up to. When the ambassador’s party was attacked, the paramilitaries at the CIA base came to the rescue before being driven back into their own compound, where two officers were subsequently killed in a mortar attack.

Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.

Retired Lt. General William Boykin said in January that Stevens was in Benghazi as part of an effort to arm the Syrian opposition:

More supposition was that he was now funneling guns to the rebel forces in Syria, using essentially the Turks to facilitate that. Was that occurring, (a), and if so, was it a legal covert action?

Boykin said Stevens was “given a directive to support the Syrian rebels” and the State Department’s Special Mission Compound in Benghazi “would be the hub of that activity.”

Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:

There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

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Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.

The ship’s captain was “a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.

That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.

Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?

Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”

And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.

Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”

And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.

In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.

Other sources also discuss that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi as mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.

Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.

That is what I think really happened at Benghazi.
Was CIA Chief David Petraeus’ Firing Due to Benghazi?

CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair. But Petraeus was scheduled to testify under oath the next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate. Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation. And see this. Benghazi (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/04/real-benghazi-story.html)

[ThePythonicCow]

Iran -Contra d'Obama : Le vrai scandale Benghazi


Zerohedge has posted a devastating report by Seymour Hersh regarding the Obama administration's efforts to destroy Syria, and Turkey's effort's to provoke Obama into doing that, including with the Sarin gas attacks initially blamed on Syrian President Assad, but actually instigated by Turkey.

The report is too long to repost here, but the details, including comments and testimony from major insiders from the US government, are devastating. As Zerohedge concludes "Weep for the Republic. It is no more."

To read the report, go to Obama On The Red Line And On The Rat Line (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-13/obama-red-line-and-rat-line).

The "Red Line" refers to Obama's statement that he would not allow Assad to use chemical weapons, and that doing so would be crossing a "red line".

The "Rat Line" refers to the covert transfer of weapons from the conquered Libya, via Benghazi and Turkey, to the "rebels" inside Syria. After the Sept. 11, 2012, attack in Benghazi, Obama started withdrawing from that weapons transfer. This withdrawal was putting Prime Minister Erdoğan of Turkey in a difficult position. Erdoğan needed to gain control of Syria, rather than having the rebels inside Syria lose their rebellion against Assad and turn against Turkey instead.



OK Here it is...

Pulitzer-Prize Winning Reporter Sy Hersh: Benghazi Is a HUGE Scandal … But Not For the Reason You Think

I merged my little noticed thread on Seymour Hersh's report on Obama, Benghazi, Syria and Turkey into this thread, since it was covering the same ground.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/martial-law-alert-obama-confiscates-all-apache-attack-helicopters-from-the-governors-of-all-50-states_042014

As if the Obama administration’s purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run “the most transparent administration in history” has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.

In all, the Defense Department will confiscate 192 Apaches from National Guard units around the country and give them to the active duty Army.

In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.

Last week, U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, claiming that the measure will save taxpayers $12 billion, over the next three years.

Of course, when one considers that this ‘cost saving’ move comes from an administration which regularly runs trillion-dollar deficits and, to date, has proposed no less than 442 tax increases since taking office in January 2009, the idea of saving money for the American taxpayer is a bit hard to swallow.

So, what could be another, more reasonable explanation?

The Apache, which began service in 1986, is armed with a 30 mm M230E1 Chain Gun (with 1,200 rounds), Hellfire anti-tank missiles, and 70 general-purpose 70 mm rockets. In short, it is capable of fending-off any enemy, foreign or domestic.

Obviously, these helicopters could pose a substantial obstacle to saying, a tyrant drunk on his own power, with an army at his disposal.

With the recent, attempted seizure of the Bundy family ranch in Nevada by more than 200 armed federal officers, including many snipers, we know that the Obama administration is not afraid to use force against the American people.

Furthermore, considering the unprovoked attacks and murders of U.S. citizens on their own property by federal agents, such as the Ruby Ridge and Waco massacres, we also know that the federal government has no problem suspending due process and using lethal force on its own citizens. Couple that with the as yet, unexplained, massive arms buildup by the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Defense Authorization Act which allows the feds to arrest and detain any U.S. citizen indefinitely without charges, and even the most establishment-minded American should be able to see what is coming.

[Sunny-side-up]

Coincidence? Just other day here in South-London I saw one of them Choppers flying/meandering Westwards along the River-Thames.

[Operator]

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the man who once vowed to run “the most transparent administration in history”
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He kept his word ... ;)






It IS most obvious what they are up to !

[Snowflower]

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/martial-law-alert-obama-confiscates-all-apache-attack-helicopters-from-the-governors-of-all-50-states_042014
...Couple that with the as yet, unexplained, massive arms buildup by the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Defense Authorization Act which allows the feds to arrest and detain any U.S. citizen indefinitely without charges, and even the most establishment-minded American should be able to see what is coming.
No they won't. They will remain in denial until there is nothing left to deny. My husband and I call it "the Nate Syndrome" in honor of our son-in-law.

[MorningFox]

Coincidence? Just other day here in South-London I saw one of them Choppers flying/meandering Westwards along the River-Thames.

An apache helicopter?

I see the huge chinook helicopters fly over here in Battersea probably two or three times a week. Never seen an apache.

[Lifebringer]

I thought this was a "state thingy" They owe they state a million, and are standing off w/guns to defend feeding the cattle on "state lands." Harry Reid and state officials are doing this. It's a snub against the government departments to him. If everybody else pays, why shouldn't Bundy? He couldn't set up a payment plan all these years when he ran his cattle and sold them 20 years?

Sounds a little egotistical and manipulative to have a tax dodger stirring up civil unrest because he won't pay as others in America to keep those lands hydrated clean for the cattle that graze. Sorta like theft from the "other tax payers." I'm wondering if they couldn't have set up a online fund with those who believe in his "stand your ground against taxes stance?"
Would Bundy do this for a city slicker? I doubt it seriously. But if you must blame the President for the states moves, then so be it.
Just saying there are states laws who collect the taxes, and Federal Laws, but the lands of the people that haven't been sold off, to save money and keep energy clean are the price to pay in the future. Bundy won't out live carbonmonoxide air for his children and grandchildren. People have to think about the bigger picture and the oil sands pipeline alternatives. Is Bundy a NG or oil person. I seem to remember someone being interviewed saying he was connected to oil. I've watched a lot of the live footage video, and I distinctly recall this. Perhaps there in lies the real reason. KOCH brothers in action folks.

[ThePythonicCow]

As if the Obama administration’s purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run “the most transparent administration in history” has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.
I changed the title of this thread from:


Something big and bad is coming Obama CONFISCATES ALL APACHE ATTACK HELICOPTERS. gives to armyto:

Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

The new title is less sensationalist, is more accurate, and doesn't SHOUT.

The essence of this report, as I noted a few days ago in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70325-Siege-at-the-Bundy-Ranch-...-Armed-invasion-of-American-land-...-by-the-US-Federal-Government.&p=821188&viewfull=1#post821188), is:

The US National Guard units (which when push comes to shove report to the state Governors) are losing their Apache helicopters (https://medium.com/war-is-boring/cd482ee4bf70) to the US Army (which reports to the US President.)
The state National Guards will lose 200 AH-64 Apache attack copters, 100 or so OH-58 Kiowa scouts and 100 UH-72 Lakota utility birds. In return, they will gain 100 UH-60 Blackhawk transports.

Yes, it seems that something really nasty is brewing. But when a hurricane is approaching, sensationalist warnings at each gust of wind do not serve us well.

[ThePythonicCow]

I thought this was a "state thingy" They owe they state a million, and are standing off w/guns to defend feeding the cattle on "state lands." Harry Reid and state officials are doing this. It's a snub against the government departments to him. If everybody else pays, why shouldn't Bundy? He couldn't set up a payment plan all these years when he ran his cattle and sold them 20 years?
You comment confuses me :). This thread is not about the Bundy ranch vs the US Federal (not state) Bureau of Land Management (BLM).

Rather this thread is about the Federal government taking some attack helicopters from the state National Guards, in exchange for fewer transport helicopters, and the implications of that confiscation (the US Federal government is yet more militarized, and seems to be preparing for yet another war ... this one in the country formerly known as the United States of America.)

(Also, I was unable to parse your phrase "They owe they state a million".)

[GoodETxSG]

FYI, There has been a lot more that has been taken away! A few signatures and the people "Guarding" the heavy equipment and small arms depots on the Same base change... Access removed/denied w/o more red tape even though the National Guard Units carried a heavy share of all of the post 9/11 Wars in Blood and Burdon...

It is because they are also under the command of their states Governor who is Commander and Chief of their State Military Forces. So the Soldiers loyalties are in question by the MarxoNazi Cabal. They have these Brown Shirt Army and do not want an even fight. They have gone through great pains and expense to assure this already!

This is the tip of the iceberg on what is occurring in the Military from the Pentagon down to the puppet replacements of the Honorable Brass that was setup and fired or worse. The replacements that should worry every one for reasons I will let you speculate about are the nuclear weapons specialists who not only had access to the Codes, Received THE order to launch, and use Human reason before pushing the button... Who's in those bunkers now?

Over a Month a go I was informed "It Has Begun"... I posted in one thread the plans. Right now expect a Dis/Mis Info campaign like none other. Much of it will to be confused and not knowing weather to act or not by making you doubt your awakening. Most of it will be to preempt damaging info they know will be released shortly. The have had their trolls on sites/blogs for half a year to several years gaining respect among their members.

It is going to be a time of not being "Reactionary" and be discerning! We will all be tested IMHO...

[ThePythonicCow]

Over a Month a go I was informed "It Has Begun"... I posted in one thread the plans. Right now expect a Dis/Mis Info campaign like none other. Much of it will to be confused and not knowing weather to act or not by making you doubt your awakening. Most of it will be to preempt damaging info they know will be released shortly. The have had their trolls on sites/blogs for half a year to several years gaining respect among their members.
Any suggestions, Corey or others, on how to handle those trolls that we find on Avalon, once the brown stuff starts hitting the rotating cooling blades, and their sweet aroma starts revealing them?

If the suggestions are really good, perhaps best to send them via PM :).

[Koyaanisqatsi]

The national Guard will be heavily involved w martial law should it ever happen, most likely not the army so i do not see this as alarming at all. NOW, if the ARMY had transferred the heli's to the Nat Gaurd, then my suspicions might arise in that case.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

i changed the title of this thread from:


something big and bad is coming obama confiscates all apache attack helicopters. Gives to armyto:

obama administration transfers apache helicopters from natl guard to army

the new title is less sensationalist, is more accurate, and doesn't shout.



whatever paul. Whatever. Clap clap. So ****ing depressed right now. Try and s hare something and you pick holes in it/me like you always have. **** it. **** it all. Family matters this **** does not.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Dear thread-readers,

when I was in the Air Force, the ANG, the BRAC tried to reallocate our base and seize our planes.

Yet the 130th AW is highly decorated and capable -- why would the gov't pull its teeth?

Now, if the BRAC failed, how the F is Obama doing this?

Something really stinks about this move -- I'm telling you, he just destroyed a bunch of jobs and impacted troop loyalty big time.

The Guard is loyal to the local people.
The Active Duty does not give a ****.

[GoodETxSG]

I think recently the MODS on Avalon have proved quite skilled!

The issue will lie with individual members of long standing IMHO. We will be wise to send up a flare to a MOD if we discern an agent and keep quiet about it as to not stir the pot. I have faith in the MODS here. Many other sites will not fare so well and there is the danger of cross contamination here which has been damaging in the past.



Over a Month a go I was informed "It Has Begun"... I posted in one thread the plans. Right now expect a Dis/Mis Info campaign like none other. Much of it will to be confused and not knowing weather to act or not by making you doubt your awakening. Most of it will be to preempt damaging info they know will be released shortly. The have had their trolls on sites/blogs for half a year to several years gaining respect among their members.
Any suggestions, Corey or others, on how to handle those trolls that we find on Avalon, once the brown stuff starts hitting the rotating cooling blades, and their sweet aroma starts revealing them?

If the suggestions are really good, perhaps best to send them via PM :).

[GoodETxSG]

AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE UNTIL APRIL OF 2012 I DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY BUT IN ALL CAPS... That is what the FEMA/DHS BROWN SHIRTS and FOREIGN TROOPS are here for. This is well know among Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence (where I worked...) IMHO.


The national Guard will be heavily involved w martial law should it ever happen, most likely not the army so i do not see this as alarming at all. NOW, if the ARMY had transferred the heli's to the Nat Gaurd, then my suspicions might arise in that case.

[Rocky_Shorz]

our National Guard Units need Apache's to deliver food and supplies to disaster areas?

Protection from Canadians Eh?

our defense system stops anything inbound, do we have Apache's on the ground so they have targets to aim at in Missouri?

Sand kills choppers...

Choppers cost money...

US doesn't have any to spend on Choppers on a Tea Party budget...

troops need choppers that are in war zones...

what was this evil overlord thinking?

Bad Obama, bad bad bad...

[ThePythonicCow]

The national Guard will be heavily involved w martial law should it ever happen, most likely not the army so i do not see this as alarming at all. NOW, if the ARMY had transferred the heli's to the Nat Gaurd, then my suspicions might arise in that case.
The prohibition on using the Armed Forces for domestic law enforcement (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1385) (for a posse comitatus) has been de facto repealed (http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m27769).

The militarization (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/15/U-S-Postal-Service-Joins-DHS-Social-Security-Admin-And-NOAA-In-Ammo-Purchases) of many branches of the Federal government, including the U.S. Postal Service (USPS), the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and the Department of Agriculture, as well as the reduction in foreign deployment of the military itself (bringing troops home from Afghanistan), are anticipating the use of all available resources of the US Federal Government for domestic law tyrannical enforcement.

It is the Federal institutions and hired foreign mercenaries which the bastards in power trust to be under the reliable control of the administration (even if that means replacing those who might hold to a higher principle). It is these, not the various states, which the bastards in power trust to maintain control in the US.

[ThePythonicCow]

our National Guard Units need Apache's to deliver food and supplies to disaster areas?

Protection from Canadians Eh?

our defense system stops anything inbound, do we have Apache's on the ground so they have targets to aim at in Missouri?

Our national guard units could have used their Apache's to stop any enemy, foreign or domestic, who attacked America. The bastards in power can not risk that.

The Federal Government has been making the necessary personnel changes so that they can be confident that our defense system will not stop an attack on "unruly" Americans by that government, but rather aid and abet in that attack.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

a few years back i sent emails to a short list of guard ppl re: unconstitutional orders and seizures...
that this day would come

not sure if it's really happening now, but don't be surprised if the Guard and the militias are broken down and turned under.

remember that 'council of 10 governors' crap that was being discussed during Obama's first term?
apparently that's not good enough.

the leash must be shorter, obey der fuhrer etc :(

p.s. i wish we had enough hardware and funding actually to cut off all UK-allies and underlings (such as Canada and Australia) from US command chain. lol.

i know that sounds crazy but i think centralized command is crazy.
@_@

Does it make sense to anyone else to be close allies with a country planning to build a gas pipe straight from Russia to UK?

(no offense to englanders i love you all)

[Rocky_Shorz]

our National Guard Units need Apache's to deliver food and supplies to disaster areas?

Protection from Canadians Eh?

our defense system stops anything inbound, do we have Apache's on the ground so they have targets to aim at in Missouri?

Our national guard units could have used their Apache's to stop any enemy, foreign or domestic, who attacked America. The bastards in power can not risk that.

The Federal Government has been making the necessary personnel changes so that they can be confident that our defense system will not stop an attack on "unruly" Americans by that government, but rather aid and abet in that attack.

with 3 million guns in America, we don't need choppers we can't fly, but I do agree after seeing what came forward to protect Bundy.

imagine this...

infiltration into the local militia by a pilot who goes Rogue, kidnapping a chopper from the local armory and unleashing on a city to start a false flag war against the militia...

it goes both ways my friend, but I pity the fool that attempted an attack on America's heartland...

by the sound of it, with weapons available to PTB if they decided to step it up, an Apache won't help with electronics shut down...

[ThePythonicCow]

it goes both ways my friend, but I pity the fool that attempted an attack on America's heartland..
It certainly goes both ways.

If for example, the bastards in power had managed to get one mind controlled agent into the militia that pushed back the BLM at Bundy Ranch last weekend, then they could have gotten off the "shot heard 'round the world", that would have ignited the civil war.

Always, always, we are fighting for the hearts and minds of the civilian population. If the Feds can get most of the civilian population to fear the militias as another kind of terrorist, rather than fear the Feds as another kind of tyrant, then the Feds can rain down on the resistant rural populations the same kind of hell and damnation that they have been delivering to so many other nations, many of them with a well armed (American exports) citizenry, in recent decades.

A militia armed with handguns and rifles is no match for the fire power of the US Military ... not even close.

The only thing that would stop them is the real fear that the population, the normally mind numbed majority, would rise up.

Always, always, we are fighting for the hearts and minds of the civilian population.

[Rocky_Shorz]

We still have the most important question in the world to answer...

Can a soldier, who joined the service to protect freedoms of the USA, raise a gun and fire on those they swore to protect, or will they, just like we saw the Sheriff do in Nevada, turn on the authorities demanding unjust actions...


that is why calm heads will prevail in any situation like this... :hat: not :yell:

how can a soldier pull the trigger on a group standing there smiling at them?

they feel justified protecting their own lives being fired upon, but can they on the spot become a cold blooded killer because of an order going against every fiber of their being?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

that's why some of us ex mil are so worried about racism in the mil.

:(

"for the cause" indeed -- not always good!

p.s. the Sikh temple shooting for example, horrifying.
beyond my human ability to appreciate how evil that was.

p.s. about a year before the massacre:

http://nuclearnuttery.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/failympics.png?w=908

see the swastika on the right side close to the sikh temple?
the flowers = funereal

on the left is voldemort at the olympics which happened a year later than the picture. and the venus transit happened the day ray bradbury died which was about a month before the games.




...racism in the military is a huge issue...

it might give the feds an excuse to disarm the people too.


fight racism and you are fighting tyranny.

[GoodETxSG]

I would keep an eye on the "American Spring" D.C. Event... As Paul mentioned with the NV BLM stand off there will be ample False Flag Infiltration opportunities in that environment that I will be surprised if the PTB don't exploit them. NO, I WILL BE SHOCKED!

One way or another it's coming, the Green lights are already lit. I am not one to BS, and neither are the sources that have cryptically told me "IT HAS BEGUN!"! They would only say so if the MarxoNazi Cabal has reached critical mass and desperation! This mortally wounded beast has everything on the line right now. NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE! Their biggest fear is the release of information on their Evil methods and Fetishes... Many can be skeptics for now... But just for a little while longer if it truly has begun!

IMHO...

[ThePythonicCow]

how can a soldier pull the trigger on a group standing there smiling at them??
A hundred years ago that was a serious problem for the war mongers. Only a few percent of men drafted off the streets and fields would shoot to kill in World War I, even in the face of withering fire and the risk of imminent death.

But now the war mongers have had a century to develop the techniques, indoctrination, drugs, and other mind control mechanisms required to get foot soldiers to kill, and they have had decades of active overseas, hand-to-hand combat in all manner of terrain to determine both which techniques work best, and which soldiers will obey shoot to kill orders. The heavy combat armour, training and drugs now successfully isolate the chosen killers from their victims. If the chosen killers are contract mercenaries from a foreign land, it's all the easier.

Just as the present day mechanical, explosive, electronic, surveillance, chemical, biological, nuclear and psychoactive weapons of the bastards can be overwhelming, so can the killing instinct of a select front line solider be overwhelming.

What the bastards fear, rightfully so, is that the stomach of the average American turns over in revulsion when their hired goons pull that trigger, fire off that drone, drop that bomb, poison that population, ...

[Sunny-side-up]

Coincidence? Just other day here in South-London I saw one of them Choppers flying/meandering Westwards along the River-Thames.

An apache helicopter?

I see the huge chinook helicopters fly over here in Battersea probably two or three times a week. Never seen an apache.

Yeah the Gunship Apache's think they based at North Holt. They had 2 or 3, and yup see/hear the Thud, thud Chinooks every day. I have even seen and only just about heard some of them stealth transport flutter over!

[Sunny-side-up]

Bumping you Paul, totally agree!



how can a soldier pull the trigger on a group standing there smiling at them??
A hundred years ago that was a serious problem for the war mongers. Only a few percent of men drafted off the streets and fields would shoot to kill in World War I, even in the face of withering fire and the risk of imminent death.

But now the war mongers have had a century to develop the techniques, indoctrination, drugs, and other mind control mechanisms required to get foot soldiers to kill, and they have had decades of active overseas, hand-to-hand combat in all manner of terrain to determine both which techniques work best, and which soldiers will obey shoot to kill orders. The heavy combat armour, training and drugs now successfully isolate the chosen killers from their victims. If the chosen killers are contract mercenaries from a foreign land, it's all the easier.

Just as the present day mechanical, explosive, electronic, surveillance, chemical, biological, nuclear and psychoactive weapons of the bastards can be overwhelming, so can the killing instinct of a select front line solider be overwhelming.

What the bastards fear, rightfully so, is that the stomach of the average American turns over in revulsion when their hired goons pull that trigger, fire off that drone, drop that bomb, poison that population, ...

[Heartsong]

I'm thinking the Federal Gov. wants these helos for Europe.

[GoodETxSG]

Tip of the Iceberg... Some good info at this link though I do not fully agree.

http://beforeitsnews.com/military/2014/04/whyd-obama-pull-tanks-from-germany-to-place-on-us-soil-2460914.html

Why’d Obama Pull Tanks From Germany To Place On US Soil?
Thursday, April 17, 2014 5:10
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(Before It's News)
Why has Barack Obama pulled ALL US tanks out of the country of Germany and returned them to US soil as shared in this story published just yesterday? The Tea Party Examiner feels these tanks may soon be turned against Americans in a martial law scenario. With all of the other facts coming together, such as Obama confiscating Apache attack helicopters from the National Guard to GIVE to the US Army, as proven in the newly released videos below show an America edging towards martial law and collapse, are they correct in their ‘martial law’ usage for these tanks against Americans?

On March 18, nearly two dozen M-1 Abrams tanks were loaded onto a train headed for the docks in Bremerhaven, Germany. They were then shipped to South Carolina, according to Stars and Stripes.

The removal of the last remaining 22 tanks marks the first time in 69 years that a U.S. tank has not been on German soil. In fact, two German-based U.S. Army brigades were just inactivated, as another, the 172nd Separate Infantry Brigade at Grafenwöhr is currently being disbanded.

So, what IS Barack Obama going to do with all of these tanks that he has brought back to US soil? Will he use them to send down to the US/Mexico border to keep out the illegal aliens and drug lords or is there a more sinister purpose for bringing all of these tanks back to American soil?

Given Obama’s penchant for bending over backwards to accommodate illegal aliens and drug smugglers entering this country from Mexico, it is safe to assume that our fearless (Dear) leader is not planning on sending the tanks to border.

No, it is much more likely that Obama is planning to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act and deploy these tanks (along with the 2,700 MRAPs already purchased by the Dept. of Homeland Security) on U.S. soil when he finally declares martial law.

Don’t be surprised when the Bundy ranch is surrounded with heavy armored brigades, but by then, it will be too late to do anything about it.


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[lastlegs]

I think they are really gaging the American republic. A big story on the political site I frequent is the arrest of VA employee in Wash DC for failing to pay 89cents for a coke refill. He was issues a 592 dollar ticket and fired from his job. How long will we put up with stealing 89 million as bankster hedgefunder with no penalties to ruining someone's life over 89 cents. I know I am very sick of reading stuff like this.

Also Shamus Cooke came out today with the organized elite push back on the 15 dollar wage in Seattle. America had the largest middle class in the history of the world. We either take back our country or die. That is the game plan. They are making that abundantly clear.

[ThePythonicCow]

The removal of the last remaining 22 tanks marks the first time in 69 years that a U.S. tank has not been on German soil.
Good grief.

Good thing I'm an old man ... the tradeoff of remaining life versus standing by one's principles in the moment is easier when the remaining life is shorter, and the principles more deeply rooted.

[ThePythonicCow]

More evidence that the next battleground is the United States.

The US Military is moving the weapons from Afghanistan back home (supposedly out of fear they would otherwise fall into Taliban hands) but scrapping the ordinary stuff like office furnishings and microwave ovens.

XbwJuM00eNs

[GoodETxSG]

THEY WANT... Civil Unrest, it is apart of the plan to implement the crack down. Either by False Flag or misguided patriot they will most likely get their opportunity. Wave Two all depends on the mass public reaction to the crack down IMHO.

[naste.de.lumina]

White House Counterterror Chief: “Confrontational” Children Could be Terrorists

Obama adviser tells parents to be suspicious of their own kids

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
April 18, 2014

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/april2014/180414wh.jpg

White House counterterrorism and Homeland Security adviser Lisa Monaco gave a speech this week in which she urged parents to watch their children for signs of “confrontational” behavior which could be an indication of them becoming terrorists.

During the speech at at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government on Tuesday night, Monaco, who replaced John Brennan last year in overseeing the executive branch’s homeland-security activities, said that parents need to be suspicious of “sudden personality changes in their children at home.”

“What kinds of behaviors are we talking about?” she asked. “For the most part, they’re not related directly to plotting attacks. They’re more subtle. For instance, parents might see sudden personality changes in their children at home—becoming confrontational.”

Monaco lamented the fact that, “The government is rarely in a position to observe these early signals,” encouraging parents to act as watchdogs to detect radicalization in line with President Obama’s goal of combating homegrown extremism.

Over the last decade, the federal government has broadened its definition of what constitutes potential terrorism to such a degree that the term has lost all meaning and is clearly being used as a political tool to demonize adversarial political activism.

Indeed, only yesterday Senator Harry Reid caused outrage when he labeled supporters of Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy “domestic terrorists”.

Although such tactics pre-date the 2009 release of the MIAC report, the Missouri Information Analysis Center document was perhaps the most shocking in that it characterized a whole swathe of conservative Americans as domestic extremists, including Ron Paul supporters, people who own gold and people who display political bumper stickers.

A Homeland Security study leaked in 2012 upped the ante even further, demonizing Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

Lisa Monaco’s speech and the federal government’s track record in assailing both banal behavior and political activism as potential “terrorism” serves as a reminder that the war on terror has now been focused inwardly against innocent Americans, making it all the more harder to detect actual terrorists.

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Source: http://www.infowars.com/white-house-counterterror-chief-confrontational-children-could-be-terrorists/

This is unacceptable and they know it.

Creating triggers

http://www.tommarr.com/ChildTerrorist2.jpg

P.S.: It is possible to stimulate the strange behaviors based on frequencies of electromagnetic waves and subliminal messages.

[Shezbeth]

I have been notified by several parents of the Oroville, WA school district that the school has been pronouncing with certainty to children and parents that the president will be visiting Oroville for a tree planting on Arbor day.

I can find no indication of such online.

Oroville is a tiny little podunk town on the border of northern Washington, with an estimated population of 1000 (official) to 3000 (probable actual).

Whether for a photo opportunity (in the least) or to engage in a false flag I cannot say, but I know from interactions (I live in the area) that Obama is not popular with the community. Additionally, there is a generational "former" KKK presence, as well as areas that have a significant presence of current and former criminals (in the hills). Over the past several years the border presence has increased (at least) threefold, and there are two significant (but not on the map) military bases.

I'm thinking this might be a good opportunity to La Quenelle, but I don't know! I could end up a patsy for some heinous shenanigens!!

I will follow up as more information/confirmation is available. My gut feeling is this: No good can come of this!

[Robin]

Whether for a photo opportunity (in the least) or to engage in a false flag I cannot say, but I know from interactions (I live in the area) that Obama is not popular with the community.

Not every little thing Obama does is part of some intricate, devious plan. He gave a speech at my college in Western Illinois this past fall on the topic of economic disparity. There was no false flag or anything that would lead me to believe something devious was amiss.

Obama is just a figure-head, and the PTB need him to project an image to the public that shows that he is active in the daily affairs of Americans...and cares. That's why he travels and gives speeches in small towns: to give people a false sense of hope and false sense of politics.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Obama campaigns fairly hard in WA but it's kinda low key like you said.
He goes to Seattle a lot and once I got in trouble on Prisonplanet for posting his itinerary lol. :( wtf

The mods said it wasn't legal or something to post his movements? But I got it from a website or a newspaper. lol

You could just take a long nap, drink some booze or take some nyquil and just sleep when he visits :P

Let other people worry about their problems and enjoy the peace of the innocent for a change!!

Obama isn't a super guy anyway is he?
What sort of nice guy thinks 3rd trimester abortion is ok.
Sorry but -- yikes! People do get offended by things like that,
it's easy to say they are just racists, but if they heard what some of the white leaders really think on the record,
i hope they would turn some of their anger toward the whites who mess things up too...

poor Owhammy

[Shezbeth]

Right, and appreciated, but Oroville doesn't much count for anything and there is a fairly strong "right wing domestic terrorist" (Ron Paul, libertarian, 2nd amendment advocates) presence that could be easily blamed/scapegoated. Bottom line, his constituants aren't here (real or prospective) nor is there a significant population to promote to. In fact, the demographics are VERY comparable to say, Newtown, CT.

I realize a false flag is improbable, but not impossible, and certainly not implausible. It would be a perfect place to control the scene (remote, sparsely populated, no media presence to speak of) if one were inclined.

Not to mention the smaller towns in the periphery, the anti-fed sentiment is pretty open and endemic in the area.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

That is a bit troubling.
However you know we produce a lot of apples and lumber in WA.
So Arbor Day is a good day to kiss some hillbilly butt for Mr President.

p.s. I did Arbor day come to think of it, for some reason, maybe through college biology? I think Dr Howes in Ashland KY had us students pass out trees for planting on Arbor day like 10 years ago lol

:) you should attend the event and see what happens, maybe it will be like that Dutch story, William Tell

"What, racism?"

http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zlyl36.jpg

p.s. you can always pray to St Christopher that Obama will have a good journey,
but the trouble with that is: WIlliam tell appears to be the reincarnation of Christopher:


Tell fought again against Austria in the 1315 Battle of Morgarten. Tschudi also has an account of Tell's death in 1354, according to which he was killed trying to save a child from drowning in the Schächenbach river in Uri.[3]


After Christopher had performed this service for some time, a little child asked him to take him across the river. During the crossing, the river became swollen and the child seemed as heavy as lead, so much that Christopher could scarcely carry him and found himself in great difficulty. When he finally reached the other side, he said to the child: "You have put me in the greatest danger. I do not think the whole world could have been as heavy on my shoulders as you were." The child replied: "You had on your shoulders not only the whole world but Him who made it. I am Christ your king, whom you are serving by this work." The child then vanished.

p.s. Shezbeth, guess what, I hate it when Obama goes to Dallas.
once i wrote against him going there and i think they cancelled his trip.
they take that **** seriously

[Shezbeth]

Oh, that would be (sarcasm) terrific if I was the reason for a cancelled trip. I'm not popular amongst the locals as it is,... hillbillies 'ain't likin them more smarter types'.

If it does happen I'm not going anywhere NEAR town that day, I've already been flagged by the FBI for a vocal interest in sovereignty.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Oh, that would be (sarcasm) terrific if I was the reason for a cancelled trip. I'm not popular amongst the locals as it is,... hillbillies 'ain't likin them more smarter types'.

If it does happen I'm not going anywhere NEAR town that day, I've already been flagged by the FBI for a vocal interest in sovereignty.

you should have a yard sale every week and make it all terroristy lol see if they come.

i did one where some hitler books were a huge display (I had too many) and i think that caught a creep's eye

this bald **** came to my sale and he just OOZED fed.
i thought man if he is not a fed i am not a woman.


p.s. Paul sorry about that oh my god?

[ThePythonicCow]

THEY WANT... Civil Unrest, it is apart of the plan to implement the crack down. Either by False Flag or misguided patriot they will most likely get their opportunity. Wave Two all depends on the mass public reaction to the crack down IMHO.

There is another aspect to this draw down of existing foreign military power by the US.

Other nations, potentially controlled by much the same bastards, are ramping up.

Japan Expands Military Footprint For 1st Time In 40 Years Ahead Of Obama's Visit (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-20/japan-expands-military-footprint-1st-time-40-years-ahead-obamas-visit)
Report indicates that US aligned regimes (Middle East, Philippines, Australia, South Korea, Azerbaijan, ...) are preparing for war (http://rt.com/op-edge/sipri-report-us-defense-costs-392/)

Weep not for the Western arm merchants; they will not go hungry tonight.

[Lifebringer]

Let's just hope the cops don't use it as a false flag to go after the Prez and blame KKK also. You see they like their hands clean, even though they are covered in blood.
Funny this came up. There is a town out west In Indiana that a KKK government, and I thought if they want to be all white then give them a state to be that closed minded in. Then my guide told me: "Lord of the Flies after a year, and domestic terrorism throughout US in other states if they are allowed to fester. After all most of the activity is illegal, be it lynching homeless, beating them and dragging them from pick-ups, or robbing banks to support their meth induced stupor, it's all illegal. They've shot cops at stops on the highway and when they see the cop outside the open door, they veer in w/pick-up trucks to knock them off their feet.

People there is unfinished business. They will never be satisfied just having their own town, state, or city, just like the gangs, they earn their rank, by doing the most horrible stuff to others as a band of unity.

If their hate didn't cross state lines and the maladjusted ego mind not so destructive, it would be a possibility, but they won't stop at just being a city. Misery loves company, and pretty soon, someone will want to go out and terrorize to keep from being bored.:madgrin:

We tried it anyway back in the 60's and 70's in discussion, but it didn't work. The old you stay on your side of the town, and we'll stay in ours, was a lie, because NO businesses would come to their areas, because their customers would rather not take the risk of going to the bank or have their stores robbed.

So they will go to other prosperous area states, like pirates and bring home the booty to their own townships. Crooked cops not following the law, wearing a sheet off duty, and carrying guns, can be a real problem if it's not already.:wizard:


We sent our gangs to jail, or stopped them, and now it's time for Real Americans to "check their kkkookkkoos" in the name of peace.

[Lifebringer]

Worry not, it's done. Beefed up security and a few months in advance. They should hope none of them get caught trying it. Could bring the whole house down, if they do.

Just saying for every dirty deed they intend, I'll be here to stop it along with others. We've had enough dead Presidents already.
He listens and he hears, his administration, doesn't, but they are getting there, or getting layed off/resigned. The protection of the President is essential in any nation, expecially ours with it's history of "killing progress for the country.":yell::nod:

Besides, like Bob Dean, Obama has a few up his sleeve also.:wizard:

[Lifebringer]

My niece two years ago had to carry to term a still born until it passed from the womb. She had complained of pain all throughout the pregnancy and was told to stay off her feet. How does a 24 year old mother stay off her feet with two other children to care for and another abusive parent that's got a blind spont on alcoholism. WE had to pay for funeral because when her placenta tore, they made her carry, and the child came out skinless from the body eating away at it. It was finally in the 3rd trimester, that they made her stay for a week weeping, and holding the child to the point she was almost mental. Still has problems today behind not feeling life in her body, while it was in her body. She had cardio problems since age 10. Sometimes, they have to listen to the doctors and sometimes a woman KNOWS when something is wrong, by NO movement. The child was causing sepsis in her body for two weeks, she could have died.

There are other poor mothers out here that go through the same abuse by poor choice of mate, and that option should be left to the mother, when she senses something is wrong. Lack of proper pre-natal access or birth control is the culprit, because if she had access to the morning after pill, she could have not gone through the grief of bringing a downsyndrome child in the world from lack of oxygen because she has a very bad cardio problem with lack of oxygen being the problem. It should be left to a "female" obgyn doc on this. NO MAN knows the process, unless they birthing babies today that I don't know about, they should stay out of it. They only contributed a drop of sperm, the woman has to emotionally bond with what is inside of her, and the abuse made that very hard to do.

Yes, if they would get past the hate, long enough to investigate who's really shoving that polished black political shoe up their garbanza, they would know who to channel all that energy on, and get the real guys responsible, not the guy left holding the stinking festering corrupt bag of bs aka known as the US Presidency.

It's the bloody corporate mind that does this, and goes after their resources like a vampire on steroids at a bloodbank.

Some people just don't know how blessed they are to not have to experience that. It's not easy to say, "damnit we simply can't afford another child, and you don't want me on birth control, because you accuse me of being a **** when drunk."

With male unemployment higher than the female in the black community. Those who pay the bills, have a right to plan how much they are spending on family.

[Lifebringer]

Whether for a photo opportunity (in the least) or to engage in a false flag I cannot say, but I know from interactions (I live in the area) that Obama is not popular with the community.

Not every little thing Obama does is part of some intricate, devious plan. He gave a speech at my college in Western Illinois this past fall on the topic of economic disparity. There was no false flag or anything that would lead me to believe something devious was amiss.

Obama is just a figure-head, and the PTB need him to project an image to the public that shows that he is active in the daily affairs of Americans...and cares. That's why he travels and gives speeches in small towns: to give people a false sense of hope and false sense of politics.


Not true. He travels to tell them what is going on, and even if just a ptw figure head, with something so enormous, if the people aren't behind him, then he can't do anything. What you see is a stop and start process that is going on. Every thing with his name on it, is considered an insult to the other governmental status quo, that want's business as usual. If he was just a figure head as you say, wouldn't the keystone pipeline be already built, despite the dangers of 7 leaks per year?

NO slow careful steps are sure steps and we learned that in the campaign. Change doesn't come overnight and with all that we've witnessed that's gone wrong, is Obama a magician to wave his Presidential pen and make it all go away, without either side of the isle's permission? I don't think so. Sometimes the status quo in our party gives him hell, and the people who support him to change the corruption, "go right after their arse" when we find how their tied to stocks, that keep America from growing. Profit over common sense and the people, IS NOT OBAMA.

[GoodETxSG]

Nope, The Arms Merchants and Banksters vacation together! Vacations abroad are a good way to scout out where to start the next war...

There will be a LOT out to confuse us right now so we are going to have to be leaning heavy on reason...

They are excellent at using the same methods common "Mentalist/Magicians" use but on a World Stage.

They use all kinds of tricks of Military Movements and Media Stories to feign one thing while doing another.

Those that are having to battle them are doing so while trying not to become like their quarry! It is hard for people like us to THINK like these people... that is a good thing! IMHO...



THEY WANT... Civil Unrest, it is apart of the plan to implement the crack down. Either by False Flag or misguided patriot they will most likely get their opportunity. Wave Two all depends on the mass public reaction to the crack down IMHO.

There is another aspect to this draw down of existing foreign military power by the US.

Other nations, potentially controlled by much the same bastards, are ramping up.

Japan Expands Military Footprint For 1st Time In 40 Years Ahead Of Obama's Visit (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-20/japan-expands-military-footprint-1st-time-40-years-ahead-obamas-visit)
Report indicates that US aligned regimes (Middle East, Philippines, Australia, South Korea, Azerbaijan, ...) are preparing for war (http://rt.com/op-edge/sipri-report-us-defense-costs-392/)

Weep not for the Western arm merchants; they will not go hungry tonight.

[Robin]

Whether for a photo opportunity (in the least) or to engage in a false flag I cannot say, but I know from interactions (I live in the area) that Obama is not popular with the community.

Not every little thing Obama does is part of some intricate, devious plan. He gave a speech at my college in Western Illinois this past fall on the topic of economic disparity. There was no false flag or anything that would lead me to believe something devious was amiss.

Obama is just a figure-head, and the PTB need him to project an image to the public that shows that he is active in the daily affairs of Americans...and cares. That's why he travels and gives speeches in small towns: to give people a false sense of hope and false sense of politics.


Not true. He travels to tell them what is going on, and even if just a ptw figure head, with something so enormous, if the people aren't behind him, then he can't do anything. What you see is a stop and start process that is going on. Every thing with his name on it, is considered an insult to the other governmental status quo, that want's business as usual. If he was just a figure head as you say, wouldn't the keystone pipeline be already built, despite the dangers of 7 leaks per year?


I don't disagree with this at all. I would agree that part of his duty is to throw in words like "CHANGE" and other rhetoric that will convince the public that what the government is doing is OK and beneficial. If you listen closely to Obama's speeches, his rhetoric is cleverly crafted to make it seem like his administration is doing nothing wrong. People are so brainwashed that they roll over on their backs when they hear the Commander-in-Chief say anything. In his speeches, he says the exact same thing every time.

His objective is to instill and perpetuate a false notion of CHANGE. But all he talks about in every speech is how they are finally going to bring troops home, the economy is getting better, and economic disparity is his main task of rectifying. His administration has done nothing to solve these issues, and instead use false-flags and mind-control to perpetuate their agendas. Literally EVERY speech is the same thing...but people fall for his lies through cleverly crafted words EVERY time.

[william r sanford72]

Obama visited my town..albia.walked through the streets.real big/small show...remember a cat gettn in the way..thoe cant recall the details.also the govenor of new mexico..and i cooked him brekfast..at the truck stop i slung hash at..that was during the pres run for office.his first bid.that was a strange month for me..and i always wonderd why albia...the odds???
balance.
Truth.
william.
P.s...he is a true master in the art of glam magic etc..charm...

[ThePythonicCow]

Nope, The Arms Merchants and Banksters vacation together!
I quite agree. If something I wrote seemed to say otherwise, then perhaps my writings were confused.

[cursichella1]

Here, have some fun with this...Birdsey Grant Northrop, Mega-promotor of Arbor Day in the U.S. and Japan; Yale and Yale Divinity School Grad AND Member of Skull and Bones (soon after the latter was founded in 1832); CT Superintendent of Schools. Arbor Day, btw, is fairly worldwide, celebrated in 40 countries.

*I don't know if he's related to Jack Northrop, Founder of Northrop Corporation (now Northrop-Grumman, super-secret aerospace company), but just sharing the name can lend potency to any possible WA Arbor Day shenanigans(or, umm, ritual).

This took around a minute to ascertain. Imagine if one were to delve deeper. He's probably related to Kevin Bacon, too. :)

Regardless, just stay safe and aware and don't give it too much of your energy (better focused into planting trees, anyway).

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

My niece two years ago had to carry to term a still born until it passed from the womb. She had complained of pain all throughout the pregnancy and was told to stay off her feet. How does a 24 year old mother stay off her feet with two other children to care for and another abusive parent that's got a blind spont on alcoholism. WE had to pay for funeral because when her placenta tore, they made her carry, and the child came out skinless from the body eating away at it. It was finally in the 3rd trimester, that they made her stay for a week weeping, and holding the child to the point she was almost mental. Still has problems today behind not feeling life in her body, while it was in her body. She had cardio problems since age 10. Sometimes, they have to listen to the doctors and sometimes a woman KNOWS when something is wrong, by NO movement. The child was causing sepsis in her body for two weeks, she could have died.

There are other poor mothers out here that go through the same abuse by poor choice of mate, and that option should be left to the mother, when she senses something is wrong. Lack of proper pre-natal access or birth control is the culprit, because if she had access to the morning after pill, she could have not gone through the grief of bringing a downsyndrome child in the world from lack of oxygen because she has a very bad cardio problem with lack of oxygen being the problem. It should be left to a "female" obgyn doc on this. NO MAN knows the process, unless they birthing babies today that I don't know about, they should stay out of it. They only contributed a drop of sperm, the woman has to emotionally bond with what is inside of her, and the abuse made that very hard to do.

Yes, if they would get past the hate, long enough to investigate who's really shoving that polished black political shoe up their garbanza, they would know who to channel all that energy on, and get the real guys responsible, not the guy left holding the stinking festering corrupt bag of bs aka known as the US Presidency.

It's the bloody corporate mind that does this, and goes after their resources like a vampire on steroids at a bloodbank.

Some people just don't know how blessed they are to not have to experience that. It's not easy to say, "damnit we simply can't afford another child, and you don't want me on birth control, because you accuse me of being a **** when drunk."

With male unemployment higher than the female in the black community. Those who pay the bills, have a right to plan how much they are spending on family.

oh my god lifebringer :(

sorry this happened to you guys.

my fetus stopped moving for a whole week after thry gave me a flu shot during 2nd trimester.
and he was born autistic -- i feel it's possible my placenta had degraded.

children suffer a whole lot.
and so do the moms.

most men can't even be in the delivery room,
but they don't have trouble taking your pants off.

it's a sickening world.

lol

[GoodETxSG]

Oh No... I was agreeing with you in a confusing way apparently :cool:



Nope, The Arms Merchants and Banksters vacation together!
I quite agree. If something I wrote seemed to say otherwise, then perhaps my writings were confused.

[Harley]

This is very true:


Not every little thing Obama does is part of some intricate, devious plan. He gave a speech at my college in Western Illinois this past fall on the topic of economic disparity. There was no false flag or anything that would lead me to believe something devious was amiss.

However, they do appear to like sending the POTUS to some out of the way podunk town to visit with the local grade school children when there's a major FF planned.

Which also makes this very true:


Obama is just a figure-head, and the PTB need him to project an image to the public that shows that he is active in the daily affairs of Americans...and cares. That's why he travels and gives speeches in small towns: to give people a false sense of hope and false sense of politics.

Hint: While he's visiting, watch and see if there's an E4B Nightwatch NAOC (Formerly known as Looking Glass) (https://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/e-4b.htm) sitting on alert at Boeing Field. If so, it'll be parked at the South end of the field at the Military Flight Center.

:)

[Shezbeth]

Thank you to everyone for your participation and insight in this thread.

I feel I should reiterate that I find the scenario (FF) to be improbable, but my purpose in bringing the matter forward is in the slim chance that it was a/the plan. With all the negative Obama sentiment (Obamacare, Drones, 2nd amendment, etc. ad nauseum), Oroville would be a perfect patsy community from which to launch a new FF-induced campaign against,... whatever is 'next' (there are a number of buzz-worthy names and groups in the periphery).

There are only 2 ISPs serving the area, and no media presence to speak of, so a media blackout would be a matter of 2 switches (1 technically). Additionally, the town is remote enough that in the event of a media blackout, the MSM et al would have a very easy time of spin control and propaganda regardless the intent/actions (or lack) of the local population. There's only 4 ways in and out of the town, and one of those is the Canada border which typifies the concept of 'lock-down', and the entire town is situated in approximately 9 sq miles (with a 1k-3k population,... not exactly dense) INCLUDING the expansive lake Osoyoos smack dab in the middle. FEMA for example, could make short work out of closing/checkpoint-ing all routes in or out in a matter of minutes, after which anything could be said 'without anyone to contest'.

I'm taking a cue from Bill Ryan on this one in that if the above is their plan/intention - regardless their endgame - it is already being discussed at length in advance of any intended action. Should anyone see "The President was (insert adverse action here)-ed today while visiting,...." on any news agencies or announcements, this discussion will stand as evidence in contrast to any 'official' announcements and declarations that might be tampered, artificial, or scripted.

Bottom line: if the pres and the powers want a false flag, they'll manufacture it one way or another, but as far as I am concerned it WON'T be at the expense of this particular community (or outlying ones,... Pontiac Ridge, Mt. Hull, and Chesaw come to mind) if I have anything to say about it.

And, if there are nefarious civilian-based actions going on about it, I'll be the first to go to bat for the pres, as this is the kind of community where everyone knows everyone, and if its not a local doing whatever, the locals will know and be more than happy to point it out. And of course, if the opportunity presents its self to do a timely La Quenelle, well who am I to deny? :p

Big shout out to all those alphabet agencies looking into this matter/thread! Lets hope everything goes smoothly without adversity for anyone involved!

[ThePythonicCow]

Oh No... I was agreeing with you in a confusing way apparently :cool:
Ah - the leading "Nope" was ambiguous, and in a typical human reaction, I figured it was my own words that earned the negatory response :).

[TargeT]

The national Guard will be heavily involved w martial law should it ever happen, most likely not the army so i do not see this as alarming at all. NOW, if the ARMY had transferred the heli's to the Nat Gaurd, then my suspicions might arise in that case.

I agree.



The state National Guards will lose 200 AH-64 Apache attack copters, 100 or so OH-58 Kiowa scouts and 100 UH-72 Lakota utility birds. In return, they will gain 100 UH-60 Blackhawk transports.

Yes, it seems that something really nasty is brewing. But when a hurricane is approaching, sensationalist warnings at each gust of wind do not serve us well.

From an insiders point of view, (and an IT perspective) the guard has already given up it's Domain controllers, Email servers, DNS servers, OCSP (they handle certificates for authentication.. how we log in) servers and our network connections are federally provided. For those that don't grasp what that means, it's basically that the guard can no longer function autonomously due to the now pervasive dependency on technology that all decision making environments like this (both military and civilian) are currently afflicted with.

I was there when this started to happen back in 2003, I tried to warn the command staff in Alaska, but they could really care less.... all their funding comes from the federal government, don't look for help from there; at least not the command staff. maybe the lower ranking.. capt and lower....

[AutumnW]

Oreo-Ville would have been much more appropriate.

[Ahnung-quay]

Oro- gold or golden. Ville- farm/town where villians (feudal serfs) live.

I'm thinking that we may see a scripted "head wound" to Obama occur in the near future. Whoever these manufacturers of our reality are they chose Barry Soetoro/Soebarkah as president for a reason. Soebarkah is Hakrab Eos backward (star of the dawn (goddess)). Remember how enamored the whole world was when he won the election in 2009? The world will be "amazed" if he survives a seemingly fatal head wound.

4/25/2014 is 11 (4 + 2 + 5) and 7 (2 + 0 + 1 + 4) or 7/11 backward. These are numbers that have been used this this year.

Call me a nutter but, it's possible.

[Heartsong]

Arbor Day in Oroville Washington.....I don't believe they're lacking in trees. It's certainly not like Nebraska! I thought Arbor day was an occasion to plant trees.

From Wikipedia:
"First American Arbor Day

The first American Arbor Day was originated in Nebraska City, Nebraska, United States by J. Sterling Morton. On April 10, 1872, an estimated one million trees were planted in Nebraska.[2]

Birdsey Northrop of Connecticut was responsible for globalizing it when he visited Japan in 1883 and delivered his Arbor Day and Village Improvement message. In that same year, the American Forestry Association made Northrop the Chairman of the committee to campaign for Arbor Day nationwide. He also brought his enthusiasm for Arbor Day to Australia, Canada and Europe.[3]"

[gripreaper]

He was in OSO Washington where the landslide was.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/23/article-0-1D459AB900000578-790_634x453.jpg

He just left Paine Field (Boeing in Everett, Wa) about 7pm PST. Pic taken by one of my nephews.

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1014479_10201933616447366_4846683397912826280_n.jpg

[Shezbeth]

I'm thinking that we may see a scripted "head wound" to Obama occur in the near future. Whoever these manufacturers of our reality are they chose Barry Soetoro/Soebarkah as president for a reason. Soebarkah is Hakrab Eos backward (star of the dawn (goddess)). Remember how enamored the whole world was when he won the election in 2009? The world will be "amazed" if he survives a seemingly fatal head wound. [...] Call me a nutter but, it's possible.

Many of the locals 'affectionately' refer to themselves as 'Oro-Villains'.

In observance that the various powers that are entwined and interconnected with Obama seem to maintain the agenda of seeking to manifest the book of revelations (in perception if not in actuality), I recognize your theory as quite possible and plausible. Nutter? I'll call you no such thing; instead find me nodding in acknowledgement. This idea is probably the most improbable of the possible and plausible scenarios, yet I appreciate you mentioning it because A. you have saved me the trouble of looking like a nutter (hey, just because I was thinking it doesn't mean I expect anyone else to) and B. have allowed me to confirm it as a reasonable conclusion as evidenced by two disparate individuals coming to the same observable perception.

There is a significance to the area that is historic and antiquated that ought not go unmentioned, as in previous centuries it served as a significant meeting point and hub for a wealth of native tribal activity as the town is located at the point where the Lake Osoyoos flows into the Okanogan river, which then joins and runs alongside the Similkameen river. I am told it served as a trading grounds in the least, but my investigation of that angle is cursory.

Also to be considered is the meteor activity that has spiked over the past several days through the weekend (hmmm).


Arbor Day in Oroville Washington.....I don't believe they're lacking in trees. It's certainly not like Nebraska! I thought Arbor day was an occasion to plant trees.

For clarification, an individual in the school district had several trees removed from the local middle/high school that officially belonged to the city, and the school district was fined and ordered to replace the trees. I'm not sure how or why the pres was involved with the replacement, but the official word is that he will be in town to participate in the re-planting on/during Arbor day (Friday). The local environment isn't as flush with trees as one might expect for the pacific northwest due to hill fires over the past decade, but there is still a reasonable surplus compared and contrasted with other locales (Nebraska et al).

[raregem]

This is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are AFRAID of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. BASE mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on Avalon.



I DO NOT SEE THE RACIST CRAP YOU SPEAK OF....care to be specific without attacking the poster(s)?

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Our country is at the cusp of a major happening and this march maybe the beginning of that major move in cleaning up the political arena. A million self described revolutionary militia are heading to Washington DC with one very pivotal message, Obama regime, Get Out. They’re called the Operation American Spring — and they’re vowing to oust the likes of Mr. Obama, Mr. Boehner, Attorney General Eric Holder, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Sen. Mitch McConnell, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Raw Story reported.

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[wnlight]

I used to say that this action should be done in the ballot box. However, now that the Elite have removed real chooses from the ballot, what meaningful choices of action are left. I still do not choose violence. Maybe we should take another look at Gandhi.

LOL . Can you believe "Illuminati vs Gandhi"? Would his methods work today?
Would US soldiers fire upon unarmed, peaceful demonstrators. Yes that has already happened.

[risveglio]

Would US soldiers fire upon unarmed, peaceful demonstrators. Yes that has already happened.

Has this happened? If so, where? Pepper spray I know, excessive force, yes. I don't know of a time of US troops firing at peaceful demonstrators. Wouldn't put it past them but didn't think it happened yet.

[Tyy1907]

Well just like this video said, protest groups get infiltrated and "rogue protester" starts firing. Just shows the lengths these government fuktards will go. They're scared ****less of us!

[spiritguide]

Would US soldiers fire upon unarmed, peaceful demonstrators. Yes that has already happened.

Has this happened? If so, where? Pepper spray I know, excessive force, yes. I don't know of a time of US troops firing at peaceful demonstrators. Wouldn't put it past them but didn't think it happened yet.

It happened at Kent State university! See video

K94oOhUcvHE

Don't ever think your peacefull protest will keep the government from firing on you! The gov. does not think it is our servent any more, it thinks it is our master. This is not meant to be and will not stand. They cannot shoot fast enough to get us all even if we are un armed.

Peace!

[ghostrider]

Even if the entire military , police , CIA , FBI and the likes united , there is still over 300 million people in the United States , we have them out numbered no matter what happens ... something must be done ... everyone in politics is bought , or lies , and works against the constitution and the rule of law ... the law should apply equal to all , the rich , and the political SHOULD NOT get any special treatment because of title or position ... the NSA spying , citizens killed in Benghazi , the IRS targeting the opposition, the whole Iraq trickery , the then VP cheney connected to Haliburton , the list goes on ... things will only change when the citizens change it ...

[ghostrider]

Who knows , maybe the same CIA operatives that start all the messes in the middle east have now set their agenda to destablize America just like they do everywhere they go ...

[risveglio]

Live feed?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/operation-american-spring-live

[risveglio]

Would US soldiers fire upon unarmed, peaceful demonstrators. Yes that has already happened.

Has this happened? If so, where? Pepper spray I know, excessive force, yes. I don't know of a time of US troops firing at peaceful demonstrators. Wouldn't put it past them but didn't think it happened yet.

It happened at Kent State university! See video

K94oOhUcvHE

Don't ever think your peacefull protest will keep the government from firing on you! The gov. does not think it is our servent any more, it thinks it is our master. This is not meant to be and will not stand. They cannot shoot fast enough to get us all even if we are un armed.

Peace!

Thanks for the reminder. There was a response to this and it may have woke many up at the time, though they all fell right in line once they "grew up". Government will never be the servant.

[GoodETxSG]

Watching the live stream from yday and tday I have seen dozens of concealed weapons (Rifles in long packs), Pistol Bulges and one dumb *** with a pearl handled .45 in the small of his back. Unwise....

I also saw all of the gov types taking photo's of them making sure to get good head shots. So it can break many ways... still to be seen. If anyone pull's a Ukraine ("Gov" Sniper or Park Police Shooting) there will be return fire... (I am sure there are more weapons stashed not far away at camping grounds)... OR they will just take pictures, run facial recognition and add them all to the Red List and if nothing crazy happens and the numbers stay below MSM coverage they will pick them up or sick the IRS on them later. You know there are a lot of agents dressed up, infiltrating and walking the walk and talking the talk gathering intel.

I heard of people on route that have been harassed by police/state troopers etc and streaming media is being jacked with (I wonder how the cell service is in the area right now?).

I am finding it hard to get any reliable numbers of current attendance (Though the streaming video's today show much larger numbers). I have not seen any COM Centers or much "VISIBLE" co-ordination Command/Control or or OPSEC for this protest... especially one planned for over 6 months by former Military Professionals. With the lack of information coming out of the scene it's hard to make heads or tails of what is going on.

I would think that we would have some resources from PA or some of our/my private resources reporting back on this. The COMPLETE information blackout speaks pretty loudly to me. I just am not able to understand what it means. I see/hear all of the conjecture here and other sites... but that is all so far! IMHO! Maybe we should hold our tongue's and conjecture a little longer and see how this breaks...

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[Nine]

I love the smell of patriotic fervor in the morning....

Please watch this pure patriot talking about the new American spring and God Bless America.....as it were....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSuQ_86UO0


And of course I love all you fine patriots gathered in Washington up against that evil Obama and his minions....

Praise god....


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[Rocky_Shorz]

Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely - [article here (http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/u-s-general-calls-for-massive-march-on-congress-white-house/)]


GENERAL CALLS FOR MASSIVE MARCH ON WASHINGTON

The retired U.S. military commander who previously urged Americans to confront President Obama’s “tyranny” now recommends employing Egypt’s model to accomplish that aim.

The Egyptian model, Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely explained on the Internet radio show WBTM, “We Become The Media,” is 33 million people saying no to their leaders. In Egypt, as a result, Muslim Brotherhood President Mohamed Morsi was removed from office.

Vallely, the founder of Stand Up America (http://www.standupamericaus.org/about-sua/), an organization that provides education resources for leaders and activists based on the values of the Founding Fathers, has called for a massive march on Washington.

He was asked whether America can be restored as the shining city on the hill when the electoral process is “known to be corrupt.”
Vallely said the absence of leadership in the White House and Congress makes it difficult.

“I’m not even sure our traditional process will straighten our government out in time to save us.”
Processes such as impeachment won’t be employed, he said.

Pointing to Egypt, he said millions of Americans need to “stand up” to Washington “within the next 12 months.”

[continued (http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/u-s-general-calls-for-massive-march-on-congress-white-house/)]

the 33 has a special meaning here at Avalon... it was a psyop against the alternative media, and disrupted us enough for a forum split...

and as for Vallely and how he is twisting the minds of #FoxNews viewers...

here are his credentials...





This article appears in the August 26, 2005 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
Cheney's `Spoon-Benders'
Pushing Nuclear Armageddon

by Jeffrey Steinberg

Sometime in late 1980, then-Col. Paul E. Vallely, the Commander of the 7th Psychological Operations Group, United States Army Reserve, Presidio of San Francisco, Ca., co-authored a discussion paper, which received wide and controversial attention within the U.S. military, particularly within the Special Operations community. The paper was titled "From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory," and it presented a Nietzschean scheme for waging perpetual psychological warfare against friend and enemy populations alike, and even against the American people.

The "MindWar" paper was provoked by an article by Lt. Col. John Alexander, which appeared in the December 1980 edition of Military Review, advocating the introduction of ESP (extra-sensory perception), "tele-pathetic behavior modification," para-psychology, psychokinesis ("mind over matter"), remote viewing, out of body experiences, and other New Age and occult practices into U.S. military intelligence. Alexander's paper was titled "The New Mental Battlefield: Beam Me Up, Spock."

But the subsequent paper co-authored by Vallely went way beyond ESP and the other paranormal techniques advocated by Alexander: "Strategic MindWar must begin the moment war is considered to be inevitable," the document stated. "It must seek out the attention of the enemy nation through every available medium, and it must strike at the nation's potential soldiers before they put on their uniforms. It is in their homes and their communities that they are most vulnerable to MindWar....

"To this end," Vallely and co-author continued, "MindWar must be strategic in emphasis, with tactical applications playing a reinforcing, supplementary role. In its strategic context, MindWar must reach out to friends, enemies, and neutrals alike across the globe—neither through primitive 'battlefield' leaflets and loudspeakers of PSYOP nor through the weak, imprecise, and narrow effort of psychotronics—but through the media possessed by the United States which have the capabilities to reach virtually all people on the face of the Earth. These media are, of course the electronic media—television and radio. State of the art developments in satellite communication, video recording techniques, and laser and optical transmission of broadcasts make possible a penetration of the minds of the world such as would have been inconceivable just a few years ago. Like the sword Excalibur [King Arthur's magical sword—ed.], we have but to reach out and seize this tool; and it can transform the world for us if we have the courage and the integrity to enhance civilization with it. If we do not accept Excalibur, then we relinquish our ability to inspire foreign cultures with our morality. If they can then desire moralities unsatisfactory to us, we have no choice but to fight them on a more brutish level.

"MindWar must target all participants to be effective. It must not only weaken the enemy; it must strengthen the United States. It strengthens the United States by denying enemy propaganda access to our people, and by explaining and emphasizing to our people the rationale for our national interest in a specific war."

Leaving nothing to the imagination, the document concluded by emphasizing that MindWar should employ subliminal brainwashing technologies, and weapons that directly attack the targetted population's central nervous system and brain functioning: "There are some purely natural conditions under which minds may become more or less receptive to ideas, and MindWar should take full advantage of such phenomena as atmospheric electromagnetic activity, air ionization, and extremely low frequency waves," the paper concluded.

The "MindWar" paper was disturbing, for reasons beyond its fascistic and occultist content. For one thing, Colonel Vallely's co-author was a PSYOP Research & Analysis Team Leader named Maj. Michael A. Aquino. Five years before the circulation of the MindWar paper, Special Forces Reserve officer Aquino had founded the Temple of Set, a Satanic organization which was the successor to Anton Szandor LeVay's Church of Satan. Aquino would soon be grabbing headlines, which persisted throughout the 1980s, as a leading suspect in a nationwide Satanic pedophile ring, that particularly targetted daycare centers on such military bases as Fort Bragg and the Presidio (see article, p. 21).

Furthermore, Vallely and Aquino's MindWar scheme is remarkably similar to the Total Information Awareness (TIA) program launched by the Donald Rumsfeld Pentagon, under the direction of Irangate figure Adm. John Poindexter. Ostensibly, the Total Information Awareness global propaganda and mega-data-mining plan was scrapped after a series of negative news stories, but Pentagon sources have reported that the program was merely "taken into a black box."

Indeed, on Aug. 16, 2005, The New York Times' Philip Shenon revealed that a super-secret Pentagon "special action program" called Able Danger had tracked Mohammed Atta and three of the other Sept. 11, 2001 hijackers a year prior to the attacks; but Pentagon lawyers with the Special Operations Command refused to allow the information to be shared with the FBI, for fear of exposing the data-mining program to any public scrutiny. The Times learned of Able Danger from Lt. Col. Anthony Schaffer, who was the program's liaison to the Defense Intelligence Agency at the time.
'Nuke Iran!'

Colonel Vallely's association with Aquino did little to stall the former's military career advancement. A West Point graduate, Vallely retired in 1991 as deputy commanding general of the U.S. Army of the Pacific. From 1982-86, he headed the 351st Civil Affairs Command, placing him in charge of all Special Forces, Psychological Warfare, and Civil Affairs Military units in the Western United States and Hawaii.

Today, he is practicing what he and Satanist Aquino preached in the MindWar paper, and is one of the leading propaganda assets in Vice President Dick Cheney's push for military confrontation with Iran—one that could see the United States carry out the first pre-emptive nuclear attack in history...

General Vallely, now retired from the military, is a senior military commentator for Rupert Murdoch's shrill Fox TV News; is a "client" of Benador Associates, the premier public relations firm for the neo-conservative cabal in Washington; is the Military Committee chairman for Frank Gaffney's neo-conned Center for Strategic Policy; and is the co-founder, along with Gen. Thomas McInerney (USAF-ret.), another Benador client, of the Iran Policy Committee. IPC is yet another neo-con front group that: 1) promotes the Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK), a group on the State Department's list of International Terrorist Organizations (for assassinating a number of U.S. military officers in Iran); and 2) demands U.S. military action to impose "regime change" in Tehran, through such measures as a massive bombing campaign against Iran's purported secret nuclear weapons labs, and a U.S. Naval blockade of the Straits of Hormuz. Recently General Vallely co-authored a book with General McInerney, titled Endgame—Blueprint for Victory for Winning the War on Terror, which borrows, philosophically, from his and Aquino's original MindWar rant (see interview with Vallely on p. 13).

link (http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3233spoonbenders.html)

1000 patriots showed?

I thought he was aiming for 33 million... they all still hitchhiking out from Bundy's Ranch?

[Nine]

Rocky,

Did you like Sean's show?

Thank you for your contributions to this fine forum.

My opines were censored upon many places and so most of the supposed alternative media is psyops sad to say....

Sean talks of that business plot and of course Butler's integrity and his love of his country prevailed over those dirt bags....well....what do I know....

Is the apathy that they created our salvation? Just asking....

Avalon is a good place to be....

All of this is a symptom of a much larger problem.....as it were....


I got a lot more....


Nine

[Nine]

Total betrayal of our movement....

How could so few of you show up....

You traitors to our constitution...

Do not show your face in public since you are a disgrace....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOkT0_-BG_Y


a militia man in depression....


Nine

[Rocky_Shorz]

Benghazi Backfire: Fox News Has Lowest Rated Non-Holiday Week in 13 Years - http://ln.is/www.politicususa.com/S421s … deserved honor/dubious distinction!!

that's because 33 Million FoxNews Patriots were marching on Washington...

too bad only 1000 could figure out how to read a map and make it there...

[ThePythonicCow]

Benghazi Backfire: Fox News Has Lowest Rated Non-Holiday Week in 13 Years - http://ln.is/www.politicususa.com/S421s … deserved honor/dubious distinction!!

that's because 33 Million FoxNews Patriots were marching on Washington...
Perhaps they have switched to RT.com :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I dunno, figuring out a remote is almost as confusing as a map...

it's a stretch... ;)

I've been Benghazi bombing on twitter anytime I see a lynch mob gathering...

even Limbaugh went silent after my post... shhhh


I don't think anyone ever considered the truth would lead back to the GOP...

the heads of GOP have known, but they are letting the tea party hang themselves on this one...

[risveglio]

I don't understand why "tea baggers" and Obama supporters don't get along. They are all delusional.

[Rocky_Shorz]

uh oh, most American Jews are Obama supporters, by calling them names you have just made it onto the AIPAC terrorist watch list and earned the name anti-semitic

[risveglio]

uh oh, most American Jews are Obama supporters, by calling them names you have just made it onto the AIPAC terrorist watch list and earned the name anti-semitic

Cool, I like checking off boxes. What other organization is there that gives rights to groups that I can piss off?

[Rocky_Shorz]

lol...

all of them that have me on their hit list...

[ExomatrixTV]

RTAV9WVhEOs

[Bongo]

Where did you get that video?

It would be good to see the whole speech to see what context it was said in.

[Arak]

I think it was bit odd that just at the moment when he said the key information the camera view was changed to audience... That is not done ever if the speaker has something important to say. ONLY if there is some kind of editing required to do. Like in this case it seems that the words he says have been edited - just add some reverb and it will sound authentic.

[risveglio]

I think this might be edited. I wouldn't doubt that Obama believes this but I do doubt that he said it. I think all socialists, fascists, neo-liberals and neo-conservatives believe this and Obama is one of those.

[RunningDeer]

Remarks by the President in Address to European Youth

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
March 26, 2014

Palais des Beaux Arts  Brussels, Belgium
6:16 P.M. EDT

PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Thank you so much.  Thank you.  (Applause.)  Please, please have a seat.  Good evening.  Goede avond.  Bonsoir.  Guten abend.  (Applause.)  Thank you, Laura, for that remarkable introduction.  Before she came out she told me not to be nervous.  (Laughter.)  And I can only imagine -- I think her father is in the audience, and I can only imagine how proud he is of her.  We're grateful for her work, but she’s also reminding us that our future will be defined by young people like her.

Your Majesties, Mr. Prime Minister, and the people of Belgium -- on behalf of the American people, we are grateful for your friendship.  We stand together as inseparable allies, and I thank you for your wonderful hospitality.  I have to admit it is easy to love a country famous for chocolate and beer.  (Laughter.)  
 
Leaders and dignitaries of the European Union; representatives of our NATO Alliance; distinguished guests:  We meet here at a moment of testing for Europe and the United States, and for the international order that we have worked for generations to build.

Throughout human history, societies have grappled with fundamental questions of how to organize themselves, the proper relationship between the individual and the state, the best means to resolve inevitable conflicts between states.  And it was here in Europe, through centuries of struggle -- through war and Enlightenment, repression and revolution -- that a particular set of ideals began to emerge:  The belief that through conscience and free will, each of us has the right to live as we choose.  The belief that power is derived from the consent of the governed, and that laws and institutions should be established to protect that understanding.  And those ideas eventually inspired a band of colonialists across an ocean, and they wrote them into the founding documents that still guide America today, including the simple truth that all men -- and women -- are created equal.

But those ideals have also been tested -- here in Europe and around the world.  Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power.  This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often, this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others, and that individual identity must be defined by “us” versus “them,” or that national greatness must flow not by what a people stand for, but by what they are against.

In many ways, the history of Europe in the 20th century represented the ongoing clash of these two sets of ideas, both within nations and among nations.  The advance of industry and technology outpaced our ability to resolve our differences peacefully, and even among the most civilized of societies, on the surface we saw a descent into barbarism. 

This morning at Flanders Field, I was reminded of how war between peoples sent a generation to their deaths in the trenches and gas of the First World War.  And just two decades later, extreme nationalism plunged this continent into war once again -- with populations enslaved, and great cities reduced to rubble, and tens of millions slaughtered, including those lost in the Holocaust.

It is in response to this tragic history that, in the aftermath of World War II, America joined with Europe to reject the darker forces of the past and build a new architecture of peace.  Workers and engineers gave life to the Marshall Plan. Sentinels stood vigilant in a NATO Alliance that would become the strongest the world has ever known.  And across the Atlantic, we embraced a shared vision of Europe -- a vision based on representative democracy, individual rights, and a belief that nations can meet the interests of their citizens through trade and open markets; a social safety net and respect for those of different faiths and backgrounds. 

For decades, this vision stood in sharp contrast to life on the other side of an Iron Curtain.  For decades, a contest was waged, and ultimately that contest was won -- not by tanks or missiles, but because our ideals stirred the hearts of Hungarians who sparked a revolution; Poles in their shipyards who stood in Solidarity; Czechs who waged a Velvet Revolution without firing a shot; and East Berliners who marched past the guards and finally tore down that wall. 

Today, what would have seemed impossible in the trenches of Flanders, the rubble of Berlin, or a dissident’s prison cell -- that reality is taken for granted.  A Germany unified.  The nations of Central and Eastern Europe welcomed into the family of democracies.  Here in this country, once the battleground of Europe, we meet in the hub of a Union that brings together age-old adversaries in peace and cooperation.  The people of Europe, hundreds of millions of citizens -- east, west, north, south -- are more secure and more prosperous because we stood together for the ideals we share.

And this story of human progress was by no means limited to Europe.  Indeed, the ideals that came to define our alliance also inspired movements across the globe among those very people, ironically, who had too often been denied their full rights by Western powers.  After the Second World War, people from Africa to India threw off the yoke of colonialism to secure their independence.  In the United States, citizens took freedom rides and endured beatings to put an end to segregation and to secure their civil rights.  As the Iron Curtain fell here in Europe, the iron fist of apartheid was unclenched, and Nelson Mandela emerged upright, proud, from prison to lead a multiracial democracy.  Latin American nations rejected dictatorship and built new democracies, and Asian nations showed that development and democracy could go hand in hand.

[continued here (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/26/remarks-president-address-european-youth)]

[panopticon]

Yep, was about to post that it sounded like a hatchet job.

Good job Paula!

BTW, I'm a Socialist (Anarchist) and I don't believe that any person is less than another. Each person has their own unique talents and qualities, their own flaws and dreams. It is just ridiculous to say that a Socialist believes that:

ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign.

As an Anarchist I don't believe in an all powerful sovereign. In actual fact I don't believe in any form of emphasised vertical structure. Power concentrates in the hands of the few when control is in the vertical... That is the antithesis of anarchist socialism...

-- Pan

[ExomatrixTV]

~it is uploaded on a "NwoSatire" youtube channel (get the hint) :rant::becky: :heh: :doh::pound:

[risveglio]

~it is uploaded on a "NwoSatire" youtube channel (get the hint) ;) :rant::becky::heh::doh::pound:

You should probably put that in the title then so when Jeb Bush, Hilary Clinton, Marco Rubio, or Elizabeth Warren say it for real, we will not think it is just more satire.

[ExomatrixTV]

https://www.google.com/#q=satire

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Satire and humor

Laughter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laughter) is not an essential component of satire;[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire#cite_note-FOOTNOTECorum2002.5Bhttp:.2F.2Fbooks.google.com.2Fbooks.3Fid.3DikGt9gkXv74C.26pg.3DPA175_175.5D-8) in fact there are types of satire that are not meant to be "funny" at all. Conversely, not all humour, even on such topics as politics, religion or art is necessarily "satirical", even when it uses the satirical tools of irony, parody, and burlesque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlesque).
Even light-hearted satire has a serious "after-taste": the organizers of the Ig Nobel Prize (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ig_Nobel_Prize) describe this as "first make people laugh, and then make them think".[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire#cite_note-9)

[ThePythonicCow]

~it is uploaded on a "NwoSatire" youtube channel (get the hint) ;) :rant::becky::heh::doh::pound:

You should probably put that in the title then so when Jeb Bush, Hilary Clinton, Marco Rubio, or Elizabeth Warren say it for real, we will not think it is just more satire.

Good idea ... I added the qualifier "(Satire)" to this thread's title.

[ThePythonicCow]

Satire and humor
The real satire, unfortunately, is spoken by Obama himself. His own words are a dark satire on the way his controllers wield their power over us, in part through him.

[Johnny]

~it is uploaded on a "NwoSatire" youtube channel (get the hint) ;) :rant::becky::heh::doh::pound:

You should probably put that in the title then so when Jeb Bush, Hilary Clinton, Marco Rubio, or Elizabeth Warren say it for real, we will not think it is just more satire.

Good idea ... I added the qualifier "(Satire)" to this thread's title.

IMO you should have made the qualifier FAKE instead !!

I must have lost my sense of 'satire' to day.

Johnny

[ExomatrixTV]

~always check the source of the video upload >>> N W O Satire (get the hint!)

[gripreaper]

Although it is a few snippets of a larger context, spliced together satirically, it is the truth nonetheless.

[ExomatrixTV]

~ultimately EVERYBODY will be tested if you jump on a bandwagon or not (y) and only YOU are responsible for using your quality of discernment NOT what others do, like "freaking out" that easily ... lol :p

[jerry]

100s of these were murder and rape crimes UNFREAKINBELEVABLE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65g1T0e_bi0&feature=player_detailpage

[jerry]

I'm not an O'Reilly fan but this is a must see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0swPnAJhMRo

[ThePythonicCow]

Obama released thousands of criminal illegal aliens into US population


Obama ordered ICE to release 36,000 Ciminal Illegal

These two reports were quite similar, so I merged them on to one thread :).

[GuyFox]

Candidate: Impeach Obama, Restore NASA & JFK Economics

Texas Senate Race and Impeaching Obama with Kesha Rogers
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- in a similar vein :

Dennis Speed makes some great points in this interview with Sean Stone
(At 26 mins in, he returns to talking about JFK's inspiration)

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"JFK was a flawed as hell - But he was accessible, and had a vision for the country."
"People need to have a sense of vision." - DS
"And something more than Nero's Rome... (Today) you don't have intellectual discourse"
"You can party ... It's great being a slave in Rome."- SS
"Hold on, there are 7 Billion people on this planet... and all cannot have that."

[GuyFox]

(after checking the recent news): I see the establishment Won this Round

Texas Republicans continue to go for off-the-grid right-wingers

May 28 2014

DALLAS -- Texas completed its Democratic and Republican primary elections on May 27. Unlike the results in other states, "tea party" far-right Republicans triumphed in most of the contests.

Labor's candidates succeeded on the Democratic side.

David Alameel won the Democratic Party senate nomination over Keisha Rogers by 73-27 percent in nearly-final reports.

The defeated Rogers ran the quirkiest of several quirky races. Democratic Party ads said that she was not a "real Democrat" but was instead a follower of Lyndon LaRouche, possibly the national king of quirkiness on the Democratic side. Rogers had a lot of money for advertising her main slogan, "Impeach Obama!" She campaigned with a picture of the President with a Hitler mustache.
==
> http://peoplesworld.org/texas-republicans-continue-to-go-for-off-the-grid-right-wingers/

Keisha is young, and intelligent and I think we will see more of her in the future

[GoodETxSG]

She is a brave and bright young woman!

I live in the Dallas area and have not heard of her before. As an Independent I will be researching her...

I see she lost but I wonder how well she did.

Honestly I have given up on Voting and the current process.
TY for the Thread/Video post!

She is in the Houston District which is pretty much a red area if I am not mistaken. I wish we had more people like her getting involved in governance... There is a large Tea Party Network in Tx/Ok

[Lifebringer]

Personally, I hope they do open an impeachment, so they have to open ALL RECORDS on the laws broken and put in place by Bush/Cheney. That's one way to sacrifice for the good of all. Go ahead and do it. ALL the stuff is legal that he's doing and as I said, it will wake up the last of the sleepers. If they threaten your life, and say it's legal to do, you'll just look like a dictator puppet. Hmmm..live family or dead misfortunate President like Kennedy? He loves his children, and will be glad to have to testify. Believe it. So do it and let's get the real guys this time for the future to be safer.

Let me know how it turns out, I listen to c-span and all the hearings. Perhaps if the majority leader becomes a TP, they will finally read the stuff to get Obama, and see for themselves these laws of Bush/Cheney were reported on in 2007, and they were put in place to last throughout 2 Presidential terms, if they lost the election, which they did. Now they are desperate to complete the NEOConman agenda of new world order. They are waiting for us to slip up, but we won't. Perhaps opening Pandora's box all the way, is the only way to wake up the citizens to vote every single Republican since Bush's rubberstamping days(like Cantor) out. They mean to make more money/trillions on more wars w/more lies and their own created enemies. This group ISIS are the real McCoy that even Cheney/CIA AQ can't handle. So, let's first stop the animals, so this new threat is dealt with and then proceed w/prosecution. I'm even sure that he can testify after he finishes term and so can Clintons. Then add Rove, Cheney, and Bush "on different days testifying separately" then Gonzalez to find out what he put in, that's lasting past 2 terms of Presidency.
Just saying, if you're in Obama's shoes and are not a part of this ménage tois of chaos, then how would you survive 2 terms and allow your family to live?
Don't forget, there's no love for his color, so...what would you do?

[GuyFox]

There's a warm place somewhere awaiting some war criminals

(and its not a warm place in my heart)

[Zaya]

I know we haven't talked about this in a while, but I saw this on Drudge report today, and I remembered this thread.

I still don't really know where I stand on the accusations of Michelle Obama being a man honestly, but I am not dismissing it. When a paparazzi asked Joan Rivers when we would have the first gay president, she laughs and says we already have -- Obama. JShe then states that Michelle Obama is a "tranny", which is very shocking. And she also said "Oh please, we all know". Who is we?

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Article: http://www.gossipcop.com/joan-rivers-michelle-obama-tranny-president-gay/

[TargeT]

She then states that Michelle Obama is a "tranny", which is very shocking. And she also said "Oh please, we all know". Who is we?


Hollywood(ers), the same people who got him elected perhaps?

I think it's funny when the elites chosen ones get older... they seem a bit more "loose lipped" than their younger counter parts.

[Zaya]

She then states that Michelle Obama is a "tranny", which is very shocking. And she also said "Oh please, we all know". Who is we?


Hollywood(ers), the same people who got him elected perhaps?

I think it's funny when the elites chosen ones get older... they seem a bit more "loose lipped" than their younger counter parts.

So true about the aging ones... I guess that's promising, right?

What's interesting is having googled the video just to see what was out there about it, most news outlets are saying things like "Rivers took her jokes too far" etc. She has not said she was joking or apologized for this.

I have to say, she did NOT seem like she was joking. At the very least it seemed like she believed what she said. She also looked like she had been looking for an opportunity to "bring it up".

[Omni]

I can only imagine the type of conscious energies and concepts Obama gets if he is gay, and his wife too(not meaning because he;s gay so much as the life he feels when he lives because he's a gay president if he is one). Must be quite a trip.
And I agree with Limor in one of her posts..

[Zaya]

I can only imagine the type of conscious energies and concepts Obama gets if he is gay, and his wife too(not meaning because he;s gay so much as the life he feels when he lives because he's a gay president if he is one). Must be quite a trip.
And I agree with Limor in one of her posts..

Which sentiment are you agreeing with, omni? I scanned through and did not see a post by Limor in here... but I may have accidentally skipped it?

For the record, I don't know what to make of all these accusations against them. My biggest concerns with the first family has nothing to do with their genders/sexual preferences/physicality and everything to do with their politics.

I just find it interesting that this subject came back up.... and quite publicly. I kind of thought it wouldn't come up again.

[TargeT]

For the record, I don't know what to make of all these accusations against them.

Distraction, misdirection... that's pretty much all this is IMO.

it's almost a completely irrelevant topic really, the ONLY take away from a story like this (where it true) would be the honesty of the POTUS... but anyone who is even slightly familiar with politics knows that honesty is the first casualty.

[Sidney]

I think it is ok to have open discussion on these matters. Freedom of speech. But we simply cannot forget, that we are NOT our body, regardless of gender or race, size or shape, toned or flabby etc etc.
But I also think that a male, playing sports as a female, would have an unfair advantage, and this lack of truth would deem any win as fraudulent. An easy fix, would be for a sports team, to require dna, to validate gender. End of matter.
As for the obamas, the issue at hand, is that history has proven the people currently living in the white house as un trustworthy. Once trust is lost, anything one does becomes up for scrutiny due to lack of credibility. This day and age, discrimination against any physical trait should be thrown out the window. Its whats inside that counts. As far as sports is concerned, male dna, playing on as female, is athletically unethical, with regard to having an unfair advantage.

[Omni]

I can only imagine the type of conscious energies and concepts Obama gets if he is gay, and his wife too(not meaning because he;s gay so much as the life he feels when he lives because he's a gay president if he is one). Must be quite a trip.
And I agree with Limor in one of her posts..

Which sentiment are you agreeing with, omni? I scanned through and did not see a post by Limor in here... but I may have accidentally skipped it?

For the record, I don't know what to make of all these accusations against them. My biggest concerns with the first family has nothing to do with their genders/sexual preferences/physicality and everything to do with their politics.

I just find it interesting that this subject came back up.... and quite publicly. I kind of thought it wouldn't come up again.

I really don't know and don't find it too important.

[Zaya]

I can only imagine the type of conscious energies and concepts Obama gets if he is gay, and his wife too(not meaning because he;s gay so much as the life he feels when he lives because he's a gay president if he is one). Must be quite a trip.
And I agree with Limor in one of her posts..

Which sentiment are you agreeing with, omni? I scanned through and did not see a post by Limor in here... but I may have accidentally skipped it?

For the record, I don't know what to make of all these accusations against them. My biggest concerns with the first family has nothing to do with their genders/sexual preferences/physicality and everything to do with their politics.

I just find it interesting that this subject came back up.... and quite publicly. I kind of thought it wouldn't come up again.

I really don't know and don't find it too important.

Well ok then. I find including it in a post a strange choice, then, but to each their own. :confused:

[marlowe]

There is A LOT of evidence that Obama is gay.....several dead gay men were murdered that O knew ...google it...

As for Michelle the idea is that black women differ from the other races in that they have more testosterone which gives them a more prominent adam's apple than

women of other races....Statistically Black women murder their Black husbands

much more often than White women kill theirs...[ if you see what I mean ]

I don't think Michelle is a tranny but anything is possible these days...

[araucaria]

As already mentioned, Obama’s sexual identity is his own business. It would be nice to have a society in which that was genuinely the case. The fact of the matter, however, is that if he came out (always supposing he is closeted), he would be unelectable just about anywhere except perhaps Denmark or Sweden. So we are talking about another layer of deception on the part of his handlers in the direction of the voter; and we are also likely talking about the blackmailable part of his character that ties him to those handlers. It makes a world of difference to know whether we are dealing with a good man who is blackmailable without having done anything wrong, or with a card-carrying illuminatist or whatever, who is blackmailable because he is a willing partner to the evil agenda.

[jerry]

by Eric Zuesse.


Eric Zuesse

In February this year, the Obama Administration violently overthrew the freely-elected and Russia-friendly President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych. We hired gunmen dressed to appear to be from the Yanukovych government firing into the “Maidan” crowd who were demonstrating against Yanukovych. This made it seem to be violence from him, not from Obama’s team. Obama further justified the overthrow by saying that Yanukovych was corrupt. But virtually all recent Presidents and Prime Ministers of that country have been corrupt. The Prime Minister who had preceded Yanukovych, Yulia Tymoshenko, was even in prison for it. Britain’s Guardian noted in 2004 that, “According to Matthew Brzezinski’s 2001 book Casino Moscow, which devotes a chapter to Tymoshenko entitled ‘The Eleven Billion Dollar Woman,’ she was guarded by an entire platoon of ex-Soviet special forces bodyguards.” However, during the Obama Administration’s 18-24 February 2014 coup in Ukraine (called not a “coup” but a “revolution” by the coup’s supporters), they got her freed from her 7-year prison sentence, and she immediately announced her campaign to become Yanukovych’s successor as President. She was widely regarded as Obama’s preferred person for that post, but instead the person that she chose to lead the interim government as Prime Minister became Ukraine’s leader (with the expectation that Tymoshenko would soon be elected and then take over), and Tymoshenko wasn’t elected, so Obama was faced with a predicament. Since the person whom she had placed in temporary control did Obama’s bidding, he has been allowed to stay on in the new permanent Ukrainian government, in his same official capacity, ruling Ukraine as the Prime Minister, just as he was during the “interim” government.

The way to remove a democratically elected President (and/or Prime Minister) is by constitutional means; and a coup is not constitutional — not even in Ukraine, and it’s certainly not supposed to be the constitutional means in the U.S. Yet we immediately recognized the coup-government, because we had actually installed it.

Obama’s agent planning and controlling the overthrow (besides the CIA, etc., providing essential support for it), was the Tymoshenko-backer Victoria Nuland, who told our Ukrainian Ambassador to choose (Tymoshenko’s friend) “Yats,” Arseniy Yatsenyuk, to become Ukraine’s leader, or Prime Minister, in the “interim government.” He’s the person who’s still the Prime Minster, even after the figurehead oligarch, Petro Poroshenko, became elected (over Tymoshenko) as Ukraine’s President, in the May 25th election, which was held only in the northwestern part of Ukraine, because Yatsenyuk’s troops were by that time (May 25th) bombing the nation’s southeastern parts, the parts where Yanukovych had won overwhelmingly the 17 January 2010 Presidential election, which was the last Ukrainian election when the entire country voted — the last election in a united Ukraine — the last actual Ukrainian national election.

Yatsenyuk has been bombing the southeast allegedly in order to compel them to accept the legitimacy of the coup government. And Yatsenyuk continues bombing them, even to this day. It’s his policy, and it’s backed by Obama. It wouldn’t happen without him.

In fact, almost immediately after Yatsenyuk became the leader of Ukraine, he sacked the existing three Deputy Defense Ministers, on March 5th, and replaced them with three rabidly anti-Russian neo-Nazis, who were committed to this bombing-policy. The person who was made the Minister of Defense, Mikhail Koval, has announced his intention to ethnically cleanse from southeastern Ukraine the “subhumans” who voted for Yanukovych, who will “be resettled in other regions,” meaning either Russia (if Russia accepts these Ukrainian refugees) or else concentration-camps inside Ukraine (and then perhaps death). “There will be a thorough filtration of people.” Their property will be confiscated, and “Land parcels will be given out for free to the servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and other military formations, as well as to the employees of Interior Ministry and the Security Service of Ukraine that are defending territorial integrity and sovereignty of the country in eastern and southeastern regions of Ukraine.” That’s the euphemism for the ethnic cleansing, and mass-theft. In other words, Obama’s rulers of Ukraine are offering their soldiers the opportunity to grab legally the property of their victims. Ukraine doesn’t have the money to pay for all the soldiers that are needed to do this ethnic cleansing; so, they’re being promised war-booty, instead. Sort of like paying them by tips: but with the bigger tips going to the killers with the most (or biggest) scalps.

When people in the area of the ethnic cleansing managed to shoot down one of the regime’s planes and its 49 soldiers who were in the process of perpetrating it, Yatsenyuk himself vowed revenge, by using similar language: ”They lost their lives … in a situation facing a threat to be killed by invaders [i.e., by the residents, not by those troops from the northwest that they shot down] and sponsored by subhumans [presumably meaning Russians],” he said. “First, we will commemorate the heroes [the exterminators] by wiping out those who killed them and then by cleaning our land from the evil.” However, of course, that’s what he was already doing (“cleaning” the land), which is the reason why that plane was shot down in the first place: those troops were invaders and killers.

A TV commercial has been running on Ukrainian TVs ever since the start of the bombing-campaign, in which the chief local agricultural pest (the Colorado beetle), which Ukraine’s far-right frequently uses in order to symbolize the country’s Russian-speakers, is portrayed destroying crops and then being exterminated as the solution to the problem in Ukraine. The symbolism used there is immediately understandable to Ukrainians, though (and this is one reason it’s used, since they are advised by our CIA) not so easily understandable to people outside that country. Propaganda like this helps to rouse the racist nationalist sentiment to make them “exterminators,” heroes to their fellow-racist-nationalist haters of people whose native language is Russian.

Consequently, ever since May 2nd, when this extermination-program started with a bang, by an organized massacre of hundreds of regime-opponents via burning them alive in the Odessa Trade Unions Building, and then followed it up on May 9th by military actions throughout southeastern Ukraine, to kill the residents there, and then pursued it all over the region during the time since, thousands of residents in the region have been fleeing. This is the objective: to get rid of them, one way or another. Hitler called this “Lebensraum.”

Consequently, whereas the post-coup election was held only in the northwest, maybe the next general election will be able to be held throughout the country, after enough Yanukovych-voters have been killed or otherwise disposed of.

Obama is thus redefining “democracy.”

All of this is being done so that the U.S. will be able to base nuclear missiles in Ukraine, only a ten-minute flight to Russia’s command-center, so as to be able to conquer Russia too fast for them to get their retaliatory weapons into the air, so that we’ll “win” a nuclear war against them, in a pre-emptive one-strike blitz-attack to prevent “Putin’s aggression,” as our propagandists call it. George W. Bush invented the pre-emptive war, in Iraq, on 19 March 2003. Obama’s would be a prelude to a nuclear war. NATO surrounds Russia with our weapons, and Ukraine would be the keystone of that NATO attack. NATO was supposed to end when the Soviet Union did, but that was a lie. Obama is serious about U.S. military dominance of the world.

Perhaps the only way to stop this from happening would be to stop Obama, by prosecuting his war-crimes, which are clear and blatant. He installed and sustains a regime to slaughter and expel the residents of southeastern Ukraine. This prosecution and subsequent conviction would warn any future fascist who might somehow win America’s Presidency: if you try this, you too will be prosecuted for it. The world would be made much safer if he is held to account.

Senate Republicans have introduced a bill to ramp up U.S. military aid to the fascist regime that Obama has installed in Ukraine, so they obviously wouldn’t want to prosecute him for that — maybe they’d prosecute him for his “false birth certificate,” or his “death panels,” but not for his fascism, since they are even farther to the right than Obama is (if that’s even possible).

If the necessary action is to be taken against Obama, it thus will have to come from Democrats in Congress. And if they don’t introduce an impeachment resolution against him for it (and for his protecting Wall Street fraudsters, etc.), and prosecute him, for his real and serious crimes, then the Democratic Party will need to be replaced, just as the Whig Party was replaced by the Republican Party in order to end slavery.

Prosecution of Obama should be easy if there’s any merit to today’s Democratic Party, because the Republicans in Congress would support any measure against him. If there’s no merit to today’s Democratic Party, then the Democratic Party itself should disband as a Republican clone, and be replaced by a new party, an authentically progressive party, just like happened to the Whigs before Lincoln. Then we would truly have a progressive party versus a conservative party — a real choice and a real democracy. If Obama is not prosecuted, then we merely have two conservative parties.

If Democrats don’t take action and the Democratic Party is not replaced, then American “democracy” itself is gone — moribund — because Obama’s actions are even worse than George W. Bush’s, and this would be two Presidents in a row who need to be prosecuted but aren’t.

Thus, this really is decision-time for America.

The case is clear: ethnic cleansing is a war-crime, and it must be prosecuted. The neo-Nazis in Kiev are doing the bidding of their master in Washington. They are perpetrating war-crimes because he placed them in power to do what they’re now doing.

Only America’s Democrats can stop this, if they will. And only Democratic voters can replace them, if they won’t.

We should do it to prevent nuclear war, and also to restore honor to America.

On June 30th, Gallup headlined “Americans Losing Confidence in All Branches of U.S. Govt.: Confidence hits six-year low for presidency; record lows for Supreme Court, Congress.” If anything can turn this around, prosecuting Obama for his blatant and massively dangerous criminality here — entailing genocide in preparation for a nuclear attack, no less — would be the best, the essential, first step in the effort. It would finally establish accountability, in a country that now catastrophically lacks it. It would be transformative, and it is necessary.

[jerry]

Following my latest post ... one sees the true extent of the truth in this post . Events now unfolding in Ukraine are war crimes that rival Hitler's era of terror . Its extremely difficult to watch the vids. As my first reaction was it wasn't happening and it was something from some trailer of a new movie to be released soon. But I kept coming across more and more of them. Were at the point of no return now and I feel anything short of total rebellion by all, at this point for a movement to impeach Obama, America as a nation is done with total chaos to ensue.

[Apex]

the freely-elected and Russia-friendly President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych stole 20 billion dollars. all the treasury accounts, pension funds and emergency funds were emptied during his time as president. He was overthrown by people with nothing after he didnt want to join the EU b/c he would have to answer for all the budget deficits. America definitely has some interests but Yanukovych and all of his friends were a part of Donetczk mafia. He was also in jail two times once for robbery and once for rape. I lived in Ukraine and have a lot of friends there. We threw out a criminal and a thief I don't care what his political views are.

[jerry]

regardless its a given all politicians are criminals but to watch the democide taking place at this time has no rational excuse known to man

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72770-Ukraine-in-crisis

[jerry]

The 20 billion he stole will be but a pittance to what the EU will take

[jerry]

Libya was a mecca of hotels and opulent streets and cities, thanks to the globalist who are behind the puppets of Ukraine terror, it is now a mad max world. Its all being done by design destroying the world one country at time. Ukraine's number has just been called. America is next on the list. Americans who dare to speak out against the tyranny and open boarders are being persecuted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InJfV3gNhRc&feature=player_embedded
and in the same breath being forcibly searched and molested at airports and interior checkpoints. While the boarders have been laid bare with the lawlessness and free meal tickets for illegals, in the name of poor children who's parents will soon follow, as American freedom rots at the core.

[ghostrider]

America invades everyone , no one invades America , we fund every rebel that wants regime change , we supply weapons all over the world , we have bases all over the world , over some 120 bases in many countries , why ? they are not part of the 52 United States ... we don't defend our borders but raise hell to defend other countries borders , the first Iraq war was for Saddam invading Saudi Arabia which neither one is a state of the U.S. but oh we had to go there , 60,000 walk into our country and border agents bus them further into our country , madness ... Putin has out maneuvered Obama on every level ... made him look like a child in a man's game ...

[Matt P]

I suspect none of this is as it seems. I'd be careful to compare it to Hitler because the entire Hitler story is a fabrication by the same fake reality control matrix that is now creating this chaos to confuse and control the masses. As always. Even the Cold War was likely an illusion. It was perfect cover for both countries to syphon money from their populations to put that money towards much bigger things like secret space programs. While the killing and destruction is very real, the motives are not what they seem.

[jerry]

I am aware how Hitler was funded and placed into power just as Obama has been placed so my thoughts are that there are more comparisons than meets the eye to the two rulers

[wnlight]

I am happy to live in Ecuador if the USA must be the major aggressor and terrorist organisation of the world. I am also happy to say that I have not voted for any greedy, power hungry politicians for years - either party. They are all small-time, punk crooks working for bigger crooks. If the ballot would have a choice "None of the above" then I might be lured back to the voting booth - well, absentee ballot.

[sigma6]

Hitler referred to the Jews as rats to be exterminated, it would only make sense the same Project Paperclip Bush Nazi US backed Ukranian Govt would use the same propaganda. The Banker Cartel is being threatened. What does a Criminal Syndicate do when it is cornered like a rat.

The part I don't get is how stupid is the rest of the planet to put up with this??? Where is the limit of stupidity. How can country after country after country fall for the same bullsh** Surely there is a limit to stupidity. Isn't there. When are they going to start calling a spade a spade?

Right now the only leg the US is standing on is pure 24/7/365 propaganda. How long can that last???

[TigaHawk]

The evidence that Serena Williams is a man is very strong...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwrP1zHC5Eo

What the heck is with that video?

What was the saying? If you say it enough you will believe it?

seriously!!! that video.... wow

[wnlight]

Stupid is as stupid does. People in North America and Europe have accepted television as their lifestyle. They have been dumbed down by drugs and chemicals in their environment. Schools provide very little knowledge and even less wisdom to succeeding generations. Most people learn rudimentary reading skills, but not critical skills. A few move beyond these limitations, but they are then induced to create and employ technology that enslaves the rest. This looks really bad,doesn't it?

But fundamentally, people are people. I remain very optimistic that they will shake off these dark constraints. In time they will regain their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. There is enough time. It is already started.

[Frederick Jackson]

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRtbIQ1kTw&feature=youtu.be"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRtbIQ1kTw&feature=youtu.be[/URL :heh::dance::dance:

[PurpleLama]

YfRtbIQ1kTw

[Camilo]

What's the big deal?....from Ronald Reagan to Obama, all presidents have done so, and here we are.

[cursichella1]

Not that I'm a great fan of Obama, but think this is being taken out of context. We should see what he says before and after to understand what he's actually saying here.

[Lifebringer]

[QUOTE= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRtbIQ1kTw&feature=youtu.be[/URL :heh::dance::dance:[/QUOTE]

I hope I did that right to see what you're talking about.

Nope, oh well, maybe next time.

[cursichella1]

This video reeks of FOX News "editing". Seriously. The speech was given on March 28, 2014 in Brussels (that's Belgium, not Germany...). From the actual transcript of Obama's speech, here's what he said:


Leaders and dignitaries of the European Union, representatives of our NATO alliance, distinguished guests, we meet here at a moment of testing for Europe and the United States and for the international order that we have worked for generations to build. Throughout human history, societies have grappled with fundamental questions of how to organize themselves, the proper relationship between the individual and the state, the best means to resolve the inevitable conflicts between states.



But those ideals have also been tested, here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others and that individual identity must be defined by us versus them, or that national greatness must flow not by what people stand for, but what they are against.

Read in context, not remotely close to what this disinfo video portrays.

Full transcript here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/transcript-president-obama-gives-speech-addressing-europe-russia-on-march-26/2014/03/26/07ae80ae-b503-11e3-b899-20667de76985_story.html

If we want to be bearers of truth, it is critical that we check out the accuracy and original intent of a video like this before posting. The last thing we want is to come off as irresponsible, sensationalists like the bad guys...

Somewhat off topic, (and I don't know who really spliced the video together) FOX News is bad and probably the most blatant, but they are definitely not alone.

Here's a recent example of MSM twisting things in favor of the Elite's agenda: Tuesday night, on ABC World News Tonight, Diane Sawyer reported that a photo of family rumaging through the rubble that used to be their home were Israelis, when in fact they were Palestinians. (No homes destroyed in Israel. Gaza, much destruction.)

They were busted, and ABC News and Diane have been forced to admit what occurred. This is going to be a difficult "mistake" for Diane Sawyer and ABC World News to overcome. And after reading Diane's Twitter tweets (and recovering from fits of laughter), her participation in the mistake almost IS forgiveable in that she's somewhat of an out of touch airhead. ABC News is a different story....There's no way this wasn't intentional.

http://abcnews.go.com/wnt/video/diane-sawyer-apologizes-world-news-error-24513856

One of her more poignant tweets...July 7th:

Diane Sawyer
Verified account
@DianeSawyer

Was making my way through Central Park this morning and the east side smelled like cinnamon and cloves ! Any ideas what it could be ?

 Reply
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[jerry]

I agree wnlight but the destruction and death will be unparalleled to anything we have ever seen on American soil since the inception of the nation

[wnlight]

Jerry: I agree with you about the destruction. There will be great loss of property, including land. Many more people will die than eve did in the Civil war and epidemics of the past in the USA. I am amazed to consider that so many souls have incarnated into the Earth system to participate in the New Earth transformation, and so many of them will die in the transformation process.

[Frederick Jackson]

If we want to be bearers of truth, it is critical that we check out the accuracy and original intent of a video like this before posting. The last thing we want is to come off as irresponsible, sensationalists like the bad guys...

Whoa Nelly, this is just a joke! I thought that would be clear from it being posted in the "Lighter Side" of the forum. I have no idea what the speech was about, I only remark that the dubbing is good. LOL.

[marlowe]

Fascinating read IMHO...especially the last half...

http://mobile.wnd.com/14/07/forensic-profiler-obama-slipping-mentally/

[sigma6]

They always call the Eastern side Pro Russia...

US and NAZI connection is now being exposed:
The Western Ukrainian government... is US Nazi backed,
The connection between the US and Nazism (Project PaperClip) is now finally out in the open, as shown in all their proxy war tactics

STUPIDITY BEYOND STUPIDITY:
THE PATTERN IS CLEAR:
This is the result of living without a value system. Or one strictly based on materialism. This is literally going back to the Roman era of acquisition of power by war at all cost. Even the Romans learned this was futile. Which is why they invented (subverted) "Christianity" retitled it Catholicism (claimed their own patent)

Pagan (Satanic) Rome (masquerading as the Vatican - masquerading as "Roman Catholic "Church" masquerading as a Christian based institution (oxymoron)
Learned over a 1500 years ago to manipulate other countries to kill each other instead. And where do all your IRS taxes go... 40% to the Inner City of London and 60% to the Vatican and Washington DC is the third Self governing Sovereign Entity. (Search Empire of the City - World Superstate aka Ring of Power... if it is still on the internet)

NOT WWIII:
But this can't go unpunished. Unlike Rwanda, there is money involved here. I hope the Ukrainians are proud of what they have accomplished. I said it before I will say it again... The idea that they would sell out to the US to put Missiles aimed at Russia was the last straw, and that is all this is about... Stupid, stupid, stupid people.

Russia is letting them take a hit for now. Because they begged for it... If they wanted to stop it they should have unanimously all voted to become Russian,
oh wait, the East did, it was a 90% vote... I keep forgetting the Western Media is creating a completely false story,

They are now bombing hospitals, water utilities, bridges, schools, snipers are shooting farmers, they are burning wheat fields, the heart of the Ukraine economy - This is all systematic premeditated. Technically this is more then just the typical backslap at Russia, this is the beginning of a war of attrition, and a BACK STAB directly at Russia, and China, indirectly also since it offered to help by buying their wheat.

And the saddest part is the US/IMF is destabilizing the Russian periphery, without hardly lifting a finger, without hardly paying a dime. It's just the promise of a dime. And the rest is pipe dreams. PIPE DREAMS. This is classic Machiavellian strategy.

The US Hatred of Russia must be seething (see F-35 Trillion Dollar Turd (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72954-F-35-A-Trillion-Dollar-Turd-Russian-Payback-For-US-Crashing-Their-Economy&p=853268&viewfull=1#post853268)) but to get stupid Ukrainians to carry it out for them is beyond dysfunctional. It's economic suicide, even if they succeeded. Which they can't because the population they are trying to genocide is already running and will survive, and therefore still have property right and interest (HELLOO!!) And will demand retribution, which will inevitably come.

Since the Western Ukrainian side can't maintain themselves and have nothing to offer the IMF, they will reduce the economy of the East to the level of their own pathetic poverty. The self destructive solution of those "who can't better themselves" without manipulating or stealing from others. The zero sum game. They actually believe the world is going to let them live on the land of people they just murdered? Right next door to Russia? (Just because the newspapers brainwash the planet into believing that Israel is doing it?) Because the US promised them missiles? They really believe aiming missiles at their neighbour is going to bring them prosperity? Security? Or because the US/IMF promised them money to murder the Eastern Russian/Ukrainians? Haven't they ever heard of a country called Cuba?

- THEY KNOW WAR IS COMING BECAUSE THEY ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO START IT. All thanks to the US playing on the Ukrainian stupidity.

RUSSIAN RESPONSE:
THE RUSSIANS WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO RESPOND. BUT HOW WILL BE THE QUESTION. It's going to be a long cold winter in Ukraine. This is a WIN/WIN for the US/IMF... If they totally destroy Ukraine, they take a bite out of Russia, and if they win they create a problem for Russia, which Russia will INEVITABLY have to go in, in order to restore their own security at substantial cost, one way or another. This is the Cuban Missile Crisis all over and this time no one is going to blink. It will all be a function of military tactics, economic decisions, and security agreements.

The Ukrainians are being classic "useful idiots" in all this. Sorry to all Ukrainians out there. It just disturbs me to no end when I see anyone manipulate anyone.

COMMON SENSE: What to do when ROMANS bearing "gifts" come "knocking" at your door. (RUN!!!!!)

The Ukrainians could have built up their economy and standard of living. They had a basic infrastructure. They had a line of credit for 15 BILLION no strings attached, which if they were smart, could have negotiated for more (since it is really their own money). But instead, they have chosen the path of materialism and greed and a fast buck. They took the bait. And now they have just sold their children into bondage and slavery. And that is IF they succeed in killing everyone in Eastern Ukraine and IF they get a "LOAN" from the IMF (which will really come from their own labour!!!!!!!!!!!!! duhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

(i.e. Banks are trustees that manipulate paper that represents human labour, and all the resulting productivity of it.... FOOLS!!!!!)

Wake up people! (of Ukraine)


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[sigma6]

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Note the wording: this has damaged both people and PRIVATE property... the damage was to a "private" home on Russian territory. And killed innocents. And note the Ukrainian response. Instead of giving the usual lip. It's 100% denial. They can't even say it was an accident. Because of the legal ramifications. Won't matter because the Russian court system will determine liability. As if they don't already have enough Ukrainian liability on their books to start with...

I am not quite sure what the Ukrainian strategy is here. Copy the Israelis and kill people and take their land? and copy the US and run up huge debts and threaten your creditors? And get a big lolly from the US IMF?... Join the bankrupted countries that are trying to war and threaten their creditors? (Like I didn't see this coming with the US investment in military) Hey if this is such a great strategy why don't ordinary Americans and everyone else just start threatening and bombing the banks they foolishly got themselves into debt with? Works for me...

Woohoo, join the party! Join our Politically Correct NWO "Hell on Earth" Party... Come on in! (It's warm inside here)... >:D

[Sunny-side-up]

wnlight:


Stupid is as stupid does. People in North America and Europe have accepted television as their lifestyle. They have been dumbed down by drugs and chemicals in their environment. Schools provide very little knowledge and even less wisdom to succeeding generations. Most people learn rudimentary reading skills, but not critical skills. A few move beyond these limitations, but they are then induced to create and employ technology that enslaves the rest. This looks really bad,doesn't it?

But fundamentally, people are people. I remain very optimistic that they will shake off these dark constraints. In time they will regain their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. There is enough time. It is already started.

Yes wnlight there are still lifetimes of time!

Hope you don't mind me taking a liberty of Positizing and building on your great words wnlight!

Yes! fundamentally Souls are Souls. So let us/I all remain very positive that we will shake off these dark constraints.
In time we will all regain our Sovereign positions in this life,
we will induce liberty,
we will create happiness for this world and all this time around!
There is enough time.
It is in full flow now!

Let us keep connecting, building, generating and producing space for +POSITIVE ENERGIES!
+POSITIVE ENERGIES for all in this life time, so as to make all future lifetimes FREE and SOVEREIGN!

Love, Peace and Hugs to all
Alan

[jackovesk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUk2Rk3enag&feature=player_embedded

[Lifebringer]

NeoCONS did a coup de tat, maybe he's trying to seize it back to the people w/out ssg knowing. It's that deep and this may be the check mate on them since BRICs announced and the ICC and Vatican are cleaning house and making arrest? Right now w/SHTF all over, he's got to keep the country safe from them. They've been blackmailing congress and Senate members for years, and a lot of Bushevics are still in the Senate and Congress. Some are not running again, and some are being forced not to leave accept by election/voters voting them out. With the call to stick to party lines on the right, they are trapped.

They set their own traps, it's up to our President to get US out of the bankster/Laundering and pillaging of retirees business. I sure hope Warren or Sanders gets the Dem nod, then the American people will have their voices back.

Not to piss on your parade Jack, you know that, but like they said, it's what they are not saying that has to be paid attention to now. The little code words that tell others what's about to happen. I think the President said it "action" year, and I don't doubt it for a second because of all the chaos the reichwingers have thrown out like ISIS, and Ukrainian rebels that shot yet another plane down, to bring NATO in on Russia. The Ukrainians retrieving bodies said they are like rotting corpses, and if they've been blown up, then where's the char? Lots of stuff happening Jack and we'll just have to wait a little while longer in patience to get the real deal. The net always does. Veterans Today, always does. :wave:

[conk]

deleted. Just not worth the trouble.

[cursichella1]

[video=youtube;mUk2Rk3enag]Is Obama Plotting To Overthrow The United States?

I think the Govt was overthrown long ago. This is just Fox News, doing the best they can to up the scare. Not that there's nothing happening at the border, because there is. But that, like most other dramas occurring atm, is a contrived situation.

[Centauri]

Again, Obama is not some evil super-genius. It should be clear and easily proven by now who is directing political strategies for the G7.

If not, here is a good start

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73099-The-Federal-Reserve-Cartel-Part-I-The--8--Families&p=855668

[Matt P]

[video=youtube;mUk2Rk3enag]Is Obama Plotting To Overthrow The United States?

I think the Govt was overthrown long ago. This is just Fox News, doing the best they can to up the scare. Not that there's nothing happening at the border, because there is. But that, like most other dramas occurring atm, is a contrived situation.

Exactly what I was thinking after reading the thread headline. No disrespect but I'm not going to watch the video. Our government was overthrown long ago and does not currently exist except as an illusion. What would Obama, some illegitimate nobody, overthrow? It's funny that anybody still expects a president is supposed to act in the interests of the people or some fictitious country.

Matt

[jackovesk]

Sometimes, you guys have to understand, I post these types of videos now and then for those that have just started their journey (Down the Rabbit Hole) not for our seasoned thruthseekers...:noidea:

[risveglio]

[video=youtube;mUk2Rk3enag]Is Obama Plotting To Overthrow The United States?

I think the Govt was overthrown long ago. This is just Fox News, doing the best they can to up the scare. Not that there's nothing happening at the border, because there is. But that, like most other dramas occurring atm, is a contrived situation.

Exactly what I was thinking after reading the thread headline. No disrespect but I'm not going to watch the video. Our government was overthrown long ago and does not currently exist except as an illusion. What would Obama, some illegitimate nobody, overthrow? It's funny that anybody still expects a president is supposed to act in the interests of the people or some fictitious country.

Matt


The fact that government was overthrown long ago is why we should desire to no longer be governed. Put that on your vision boards.

[Centauri]

I liked how that looked. Me posting Jackovesk's other thread back to him in this thread! HAhA

I just threw it out there for others.

[MorningSong]

I'm suprised this hasn't been posted yet ( that is, I did a search and it didn't come up)...

Anyhoe...


White House aide says Republicans might try for Obama impeachment

By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:24pm EDT

(Reuters) - A top White House adviser said on Friday Republicans might try to impeach President Barack Obama over his go-it-alone immigration strategy, as Obama prepared to talk about the U.S. border crisis with Central American presidents.

Dan Pfeiffer, one of Obama's longest-serving advisers, told reporters that the executive actions Obama will approve at the end of the summer aimed at tackling illegal immigration will likely generate ire from Republicans who have blocked comprehensive immigration legislation.

Republicans in the House of Representatives are expected next week to authorize a lawsuit against Obama on charges he has overstepped his constitutional authority by signing a series of executive orders this year on issues such as raising the minimum wage for federal contract workers.

Pfeiffer, speaking at a reporters' breakfast organized by the Christian Science Monitor, said he could easily see Republicans moving to impeachment proceedings to try to remove Obama from power in retaliation for the immigration orders he is expected to unveil by the end of the summer.

"The president acting on immigration reform will certainly up the likelihood that they would contemplate impeachment," he said. He said it would be "foolish to discount the possibility" that Republicans will at least consider it.

Many Republicans, however, see the Republicans' plans for a lawsuit to be aimed at restraining conservatives from seeking Obama's impeachment, knowing a move that strong could backfire as the party seeks to take over the Senate in November congressional elections.

A lawsuit would have far less impact than impeachment because it would be a legal proceeding in federal court to get a ruling on whether Obama went farther than the Constitution allows. Impeachment would be aimed at removing him from office, a far more dramatic course of action that is rarely used.

Obama contends his use of executive orders is no different than the powers used by his predecessors, and is inherently legal. His use of them has been relatively restrained compared with other presidents. Obama signed 147 in his first term, compared with George W. Bush's 173, Bill Clinton's 200 and Ronald Reagan's 213 for their first terms in office.

TRYING TO STEP FLOW OF CHILDREN

Beyond his goal of trying to making changes to U.S. immigration policy, Obama is struggling to contain a crisis on the Texas border with Mexico where tens of thousands of children have surged across in recent months, overwhelming border resources.

Obama is to meet the presidents of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador on Friday afternoon seeking their help in stemming the wave of border crossers, most of whom have traveled from those three countries.

Honduran President Juan Hernandez said on Thursday that U.S. lawmakers' inability to reach an agreement on immigration policy was at least partly to blame for the crisis.

U.S. officials blame misinformation spread by human smugglers who have told parents their children will be given safe haven in the United States if they send them there.

A senior White House official said Obama would seek the leaders' help in countering that message with one that the children more than likely will be sent back home.

Part of an emergency $3.7 billion border funding request from the Obama administration, about $300 million, would be allocated toward helping the countries create more favorable conditions at home so people are not tempted to leave.

But there has been little apparent progress yet in Congress toward a border funding bill that Democrats and Republicans could agree upon.

[Snoweagle]

Republicans might try for impeachment - roflmao

Pot calling the Kettle black

[ghostrider]

propaganda , they all just left for five weeks of vacation ... oh there is War in Gaza , War in Ukraine , one of our marines is in Mexican prison , and 60,000 plus illegals are crossing into the U.S. - yep things are quiet , time for some R n R ...We really have no leadership in our country , when they sell weapons to Mexican drug lords , and they are still in power , says it all ...[COLOR="red"]

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I wish I could believe them, and something was done to fix our country besides another fund raiser or political campaign slogans ...

[Dennis Leahy]

hahahahahaha


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo-UXZ-1ups

So, the "positive" outcome would be that Joe "I AM a Zionist" Biden would be president? Wow, what an improvement. {yawn}

But yeah, this is theater. When the entire US government decides to impeach itself, indict itself for crimes against humanity, convict itself, and imprison itself...wake me up.

Dennis

[Creative Lorraine]

Well if the republicans might try to Impeach, maybe LaRouche's committee on ground in DC (Fri July 25th) could help influence the cause .



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[KiwiElf]

The US House of Representatives has voted 225-201 to sue President Barack Obama for exceeding his executive authority, launching an unprecedented legal challenge by a congressional body against a president.

AAP July 31, 2014, 11:15 am

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/24594241/us-house-votes-to-sue-obama/

The US House of Representatives has voted 225-201 to sue President Barack Obama for exceeding his executive authority, launching an unprecedented legal challenge by a congressional body against a president.

Republican leaders say the lawsuit is intended to restore balance between the executive and legislative branches. They accuse the Obama administration of repeatedly circumventing congress to change existing laws.

Democrats call the suit a political stunt and say the president has resorted to using his executive powers because of congressional inaction and gridlock.

Wednesday's vote only reinforced the growing distrust between Democrats and Republicans, and became a partisan rallying cry for both parties.

The resolution approved by the House in a near-party-line vote authorises House Speaker John Boehner to file suit in federal court on behalf of the full body "to seek appropriate relief" for Obama's failure to enforce a provision of the Affordable Care Act that would impose a penalty on businesses that did not offer basic health insurance to their employees.

That provision's effective date has been delayed twice by the administration and now won't fully take effect until 2016.

Even as it seeks to sue Obama now for failing to enforce the provision, the GOP-led House has voted several times to repeal the entire health law.

When he unveiled the suit, Boehner insisted it was about more than just Obama.

"If this president can get away with making his own laws, future presidents will have the ability to as well. The House has an obligation to stand up for the legislative branch," he said.

Democrats warned the suit could be the first step towards impeaching Obama. The latter point has become a staple of campaign messaging for Democrats as they seek to defy the historical trend in which a president's party loses seats in the mid-term of his second term.

The committee charged with electing more Democrats to the House announced this week it has raised more than $US7 million ($A7.57 million) since the suit was announced.

[Creative Lorraine]

LaRouchePAC is on ground last week and this week
Published on Jul 28, 2014

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I'm not bumping this thread watch video you will see
Also if you click on the you tube addy you will see what else is going on in DC
By the policy committee of LaRouche

Thank You Kiwielf

[KiwiElf]

I don't mind if you did bump it Lorraine, your video link is relevant & pretty important considering everything else that's going down atm ;)

[Sidney]

I say if true, its about damn time!!!!!

[sigma6]

For a second there, I thought they were suing him for not fully supporting the Israeli war on Gaza.

[linksplatinum]

BOOOYAAHHHH!
Now were getting somewhere!

[Observer1964]

:note: I'm picking up good vibrations :note:

[Humble Janitor]

I am fed up with the GOP-controlled House and their grandstanding on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE that affects Americans across the spectrum.

This "lawsuit" is the last straw and it is proof that partisan bickering is destroying this country.

The irony is that the ACA was amended by Republicans, Democrats and the like BEFORE it was passed into law.

When the statistics show that people DO benefit from the ACA, what does the GOP do? They fight even harder against it.

That is my opinion. This nonsense has to end.

[Maia Gabrial]

As soon as impeachment for him begins, something devasting happens somewhere. I wish them complete success in this.

[panopticon]

BBC report:


Barack Obama has admitted for the first time that the CIA did torture suspects after the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York.

The admission has come before the release of a Senate Committee report into the actions of the CIA in the wake of the attacks.

The president defended CIA Director John Brennan who has had to apologise to Senate intelligence staff after CIA officers were revealed to have spied on senators while they were writing the report.
Source (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28619559)
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If already posted then mods merge threads please.

-- Pan

[araucaria]

I don't know why we bother with law courts at all. If we just realized that we are being sanctimonious in retrospect, they wouldn't be necessary. Except that this is merely a specious defence in anticipation. Which is why we have Geneva Conventions that are only worth the paper they are written on if blatant breaches are punished. We now have a key prosecution witness. Let the trial commence.

[Humble Janitor]

WHY are they impeaching him when they are not doing a goddamn thing for Americans?

Why can't WE, the American people, impeach THEM instead?

Never said that Obama was perfect. I just refuse to believe that he's the "tyrannical dictator" that some of these ignorant simpletons claim him to be.

How soon they forget the 8 year reign of GW Bush. Remember when Bush joked about how he'd run things if he were a dictator and no one took him seriously?

[Carmody]

It is an important point to understand, to know, to be aware of:


Please find one judge in the western world, any appointed judge, who is not a Freemason.


Good luck in your search.

[araucaria]

It is an important point to understand, to know, to be aware of:


Please find one judge in the western world, any appointed judge, who is not a Freemason.


Good luck in your search.
Sure, Carmody: changing that is clearly part of the process.

[joeecho]

It is an important point to understand, to know, to be aware of:


Please find one judge in the western world, any appointed judge, who is not a Freemason.


Good luck in your search.

We are all judges.

Proof: You are judging this post right now.

Are we all freemasons?

I am still waiting for my freemason membership card and lapel pin in the mail. Must have gotten lost! (shakes imaginary fist in the air at the postal service)

Is this hyperbole?

You be the freemason.

:p

[ghostrider]

who in their right mind would believe the words of a person tortured ??? Why even have a Geneva convention if your not going to abide by it ??? Might as well just shoot people with tanks , no need for an army ... The monsters even set up a special prison to torture people outside of watchful eyes , gitmo ... the place is still up and running ... put the whole lot of them in JAIL , drone gitmo , and change the Geneva Convention to include punishment for anyone torturing another person , all property , royalties , assets , goes to the families of the tortured ... Hell make their family members wear a t-shirt that says my father tortures people ... see them walk around with their puffed up necks now , in their private schools , and circles , and 10,000 dollar plate dinners ... hello , nice to meet you oh , I see your father tortures people , did they send him to gitmo before it was droned or after ???

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I wonder if Obama will explain the Mefloquine issue, and how the overlap = the troops got brain damaged too, by it, whereas the Gitmo fellows got tortured w/ handlers using mefloquine as leavening

[Robin]

Also, if you want more "evidence," it's all in the signature:

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The PTB are pedophilic psychopaths that worship the phallic symbol. I suggest researching more on Jordan Maxwell...

Barely anything that happens on this planet is by accident...

[jerry]

He's on his way out....... or were all gonna die .......for the lie

[araucaria]

It is an important point to understand, to know, to be aware of:


Please find one judge in the western world, any appointed judge, who is not a Freemason.


Good luck in your search.

We are all judges.

Proof: You are judging this post right now.

Are we all freemasons?

I am still waiting for my freemason membership card and lapel pin in the mail. Must have gotten lost! (shakes imaginary fist in the air at the postal service)

Is this hyperbole?

You be the freemason.

:p
Carmody wrote "appointed judges", i.e. presiding over the law courts - you are not that. It is not helpful to distort people's words like that.

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who in their right mind would believe the words of a person tortured ???
Not necessarily entirely true if you arrest the right people. But absolutely true if you just round people up off the street:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-admits-u-s-tortured-some-folks-heres-what-he-didnt-say/5394566

[araucaria]

OK, Michelle is Michelle. Who then is this 'Michael' Obama talks about in the below video? Either it is a slip of the tongue, which would take quite a bit of explaining; or he is referring familiarly to some man present, and everything falls into place - provided, that is, that reference to the Michael in question makes sense in the context of what he is saying. If neither of these possibilities is true, then he must be having visions of an archangel, and impeachment on mental health grounds becomes unavoidable.



Is there a perverted secret being kept from the American people? In the below video this is what is called an unconscious slip.Did Obama let the transvestite out of the bag so to speak?There have been numerous stories that Obama is gay and Michelle is a transvestite.It’s almost to preposterous to believe, that there is blasphemy going on right under our noses in the white house.I saw the photo’s pointing out Michelle’s many manly features.
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Source:
http://beforeitsnews.com/obama/2014/07/what-obama-called-his-wife-has-many-people-talking-2465586.html

[Sunny-side-up]

Not sure if this is at all relevant but! posting anyway ;)

14:48 2/08/14

Had need to sit with my head in my hands, went straight into inner mind and watched:
Obama inspecting a very large but totally empty ship hull, no innards, no decks!


Lost contact with inner mind for a second or two :( so lost info at this point.

Than caught up with Obama striding off away from the hull walking across some water with big grin on his face. I had the words 'Meeting With News Doctor Successful!'
Hmm? keep your ears and eyes open to any new ships in relation the Obama ha!

Afterwards kept getting thoughts of the Argentinian cruiser General Belgrano?

[Stephanie]

Argentine light cruiser 'General Belgrano',was launched in 1938 as the 'USS Phoenix',and was in Pearl Harbour on December 1941,when America was brought into WW 2.
'Phoenix'was decommissioned in 1946,and sold to the Argentine Navy in 1951.The ship was re-christened 'General Belgrano',after Manuel Belgrano [1770-1820] considered one of the 'Libertadores' of Argentine.[Belgrano literally means fairwheat,denoting good cereal production]
The ship,'General Belgrano',was sunk on May 2nd. 1982,during the Falklands battle,by the submarine 'HMS Conqueror',the only ship to be sunk by a nuclear powered submarine.

Phoenix-Conqueror.....maybe there is something in this,I dont really know,but it was important enough for you to post,Sunny-side.up,and maybe someone else can add something to this.
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[Sunny-side-up]

Argentine light cruiser 'General Belgrano',was launched in 1938 as the 'USS Phoenix',and was in Pearl Harbour on December 1941,when America was brought into WW 2.
'Phoenix'was decommissioned in 1946,and sold to the Argentine Navy in 1951.The ship was re-christened 'General Belgrano',after Manuel Belgrano [1770-1820] considered one of the 'Libertadores' of Argentine.[Belgrano literally means fairwheat,denoting good cereal production]
The ship,'General Belgrano',was sunk on May 2nd. 1982,during the Falklands battle,by the submarine 'HMS Conqueror',the only ship to be sunk by a nuclear powered submarine.

Phoenix-Conqueror.....maybe there is something in this,I dont really know,but it was important enough for you to post,Sunny-side.up,and maybe someone else can add something to this.
:noidea:
Thanks for that very interesting connecting info there Sstarss

and yup it seemed to have importance to it when it came into my mind!

[Lifebringer]

I've had two de ja vu moments about this President, and it was when he was elected election night, the first time, and greeting the people of the EU block the 2nd time. Both have come true. The other one, I've gleened is the diplomatic introduction of a guy who is trusted by their people. We've had plenty of accusation, yet "NO" real evidence that this guys is exactly as he said he was, in two books. The father, teacher, civil rights and Constitutional justice President that we elected. Working with two parties that have pulled our legs. He told us this on the campaign trail, and it's been exactly as he said it would be. Pulling two parties of WS influence and lobbyist, at the table, not running stuff. Yet every turn he makes, even bills/laws they agreed with before he was elected, they now stand against because, they don't want too many of his signatures on major legislation that is so sorely needed for the people. Republicans yanked the rug out of worker retirement, savings and investement, and real estate, have yet to apologize to the people of this nation, who've had to slug through the muck and mire of their corporate agenda, and return power back to the American voters.

Let's just try and do this right by paying attention. I'm in the mind that, if all of us stay focused and backround all the candidates before their parroting of bumper slogans and lies begin, we'll sift through their lies faster and send them packing sooner.
Just a thought, in my humble opinion, because I don't think Snowden, Manning, or any of the whistleblowers would be sounding off, if McCain, Jeb Bush, or Romney were in there. I really think the openess of the net, thus far, would have already been shut down. Thank God for small miracles, we fail to recognize as they are happening.

Have a good day. I keep seeing this President walking up in a "Close Encounter scenerio" shaking hands, with ET peaceful and helpful beings. That is my sight seen, and I still keep hearing, he's gonna announce when I talk to my guide. Perhaps in the last year of his Presidency?

[Maia Gabrial]

Well, what a coincidence that the Ebola pandemic is out now. It always happens every time a president has impeachment ready to bite them in the ass. Oh btw, the US holds an Ebola patent.... Think they're behind all this?

[Magnus]

To the guy whom it may concern: what about Gitmo, is that right or wrong?
Empty words and false promises in abundance weavs an unmistakable pattern.

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[Etherios]

WHY are they impeaching him when they are not doing a goddamn thing for Americans?

Why can't WE, the American people, impeach THEM instead?

Never said that Obama was perfect. I just refuse to believe that he's the "tyrannical dictator" that some of these ignorant simpletons claim him to be.

How soon they forget the 8 year reign of GW Bush. Remember when Bush joked about how he'd run things if he were a dictator and no one took him seriously?

you need to distance your self from both parties .. they are the same. If you consume your self because of this then nothing will ever change.

People still believe in the laws ... so they think they have no power and someone else with power need to save them.

If they do this (still not convinced they are) ... its a good step forwards.

[thunder24]

propaganda of political theater....

two sides of the same coin in the pockets of the same few...

don't appoint faces, characters, or charisma with these agendas... a smiling face or dumb asss in a given position can still stroke a pen and push an agenda... personalities at this level is only for public consumption....

[Snowflower]

HJanitor, it isn't that one was good and the other is bad. They are both equally rotten in the very depths of their beings. In spite of their essential evil, they are still only puppets hanging at the end of strings pulled by even higher degrees of evil. The game is to convince the audience (you and me) that one puppet is good and the other is bad, but we are beginning to see the entity above the stage holding both strings.

[Abhaya]

http://rt.com/news/178852-obama-authorizes-iraq-airstrikes/

Obama authorizes airstrikes in Iraq ‘to protect US personnel’
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Conflict, Iraq, USA President Obama announced on Thursday that he has authorized the use of airstrikes in Iraq if they are necessary to protect American personnel and the embassy in Baghdad.


Speaking from the White House, the president also said he authorized humanitarian air drops – food and water – in order to help save thousands of civilians facing “certain death” from Islamic State militants who have them trapped in nearby mountains.

Obama stated that the self-proclaimed Islamic State has called for the systematic destruction of the Yazidis – an ethnic Kurdish minority in northern Iraq – and that this declaration constitutes genocide.

“Today, America is coming to help,” he said, noting that although the United States “cannot and should not” intervene every time there’s a crisis in the world, it must act when innocent people are facing violence on a horrific scale.

Moving forward, the president said that the United States is prepared to take “targeted military action” in the form of airstrikes if they are deemed necessary to protect American personnel in Erbil – where a US consulate is located – as well as the embassy in Baghdad.

[Selene]

This is beyond laughable. "Iraq", not genocide in Gaza....

Throwing up,

Selene

[cursichella1]

This is beyond laughable. "Iraq", not genocide in Gaza....

Throwing up,

Selene

Joining you at the emesis basin!

[Abhaya]

yeah becuase the people in gaza are not innocent......... sad crazyness as they shift our attention from one manufactured "crisis" to the next

[jagman]

He authorized airstrikes because ISIS iis planning to kill 35 thousand curds who are stranded on a mountain.

[cursichella1]

yeah becuase the people in gaza are not innocent......... sad crazyness as they shift our attention from one manufactured "crisis" to the next

Note that the announcement of Obama's "green light" came as Hurricane Iselle hit the Big Island in Hawaii, on the 7th btw.

[Tesseract]

Is any MSM outlet going to comment on the blinding absurdity of this situation? The US government has now been dragged into Iraq by his own disastrous and immoral policy in Syria. Obama is partly responsible for the strength of ISIS, together with many other heads of state. This is what happens when you bomb, sanction and subvert the counter-force to these people. It's as if the US government wants perpetual war - help one side, then the other - but never let anyone win.


Looks like the Christians on the hill was palatable enough to sell the intervention to the US public, same public who happily consume the demonisation of the very forces that are fighting ISIS outside of Iraq. Finally Obama has admitted, without saying it, that the SAA and Hezbollah are doing the right thing.

Shame on the gulf Arab states for their tacit support of ISIS - they should be the ones helping the Iraqis, not the USA. They are not friends of the USA, they happily watch them walk into the trap.

[joeecho]

yeah becuase the people in gaza are not innocent......... sad crazyness as they shift our attention from one manufactured "crisis" to the next

Bingo!

We have a winner!

A crafty bunch they are.

[cursichella1]

He authorized airstrikes because ISIS iis planning to kill 35 thousand curds who are stranded on a mountain.

Well, that sure sounds like a good reason, but then how would we really know that's the case?

Interesting how we didn't give a $hit about the Kurds when Saddam Hussein was our buddy. In fact, 6 months after Saddam Husseins slaughter of Kurds at Halabja, the U.S. sent Saddam Hussein another billion dollars in loans, one of several he received from the U.S. throughout his Anfal genocide.

And ISIS appeared out of nowhere when exactly?? Did we train them, too?

Total insanity. Enough.

[Abhaya]

And not surprising this happens just as the cease fire lifts in gaza. Will be interesting to see if gaza becomes back page msn now......

[Cidersomerset]

Whats happening in America ? basically it is being attacked from within and
manipulated by external forces. We know them on here to be the Neo- cons
and Neo-Libs , controlled by the cabal of power full people who control Capitol
Hill and corporate America. Looking at a few articles today on Davids site sums
up the mess created. Much of the manufacturing base has been given to China
and the third world. Not because of corporate altruism but for exploitation and
greed in the child labour sweet shops. The respect gained has been lost
by the involvement in wars and covert operations by the CIA and other groups.

The Banksters have bled the middle classes and put the poor in even more debt.
The borders in the south and control of the drug cartels seem to go hand in hand
and others things I cannot think of at the moment, that is bringing the US to its knees.
The solution is to create more conflict, because the industry still in relatively good
condition is the military ind complex and they know a big war , will make them
lots and lots of blood money. Even at the risk of killing themselves and everyone
else......Surely they must be Reptillion minded entities inside them !!


Problem Reaction Solution.......Get rid of the jobs - Bankrupt the nation - Cause
internal strife and resentment that will lead to civil unrest -create 9/11
so 'draconian' ( DRACO)laws can be brought in to curb rights - Then start wars
eventually getting to WW 111.All controlled by the press and media they bought
and control years ago.


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Obama Reaches Record US Debt

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Published on 4 Aug 2014


$7,060,259,674,497.51--Federal Debt Up $7 Trillion Under Obama

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John Hagee: ‘Nasty’ Welfare Recipients Don’t Deserve To Eat

Friday 8th August 2014 at 08:09 By david-icke

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Published on 6 Aug 2014


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content...
Right Wing Watch reports on the extreme rhetoric and activities of key right-wing
figures and organizations by showing their views in their own words. In this video, John
Hagee rails against welfare recipients.

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George Carlin on American Foreign Policy - Bombing Brown People

Friday 8th August 2014 at 05:24 By david-icke

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You might be noticing I don't feel about that war the way we were told we were
supposed to feel about that war. The way we were ordered and instructed by the United
States Government to feel about that war; see my mind doesn't work that way, I got
this real moron thing I do it's called THINKING....

And I'm not a really good American because I like to form my own opinions. I don't just
roll over when I'm told to. Sad to say most Americans just roll over on command. Not
me, not me. I have certain rules I live by, my first rule...

I don't believe anything the government tells me



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The Elite Television Anchor: Center of the Psyop

Friday 8th August 2014 at 05:27 By david-icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/anchorman_ver3.jpg


‘A psyop depends on selling one centralized story.

If, magically, overnight, you found yourself in possession of overwhelming force and a
direct pipeline to elite media anchors, you could tell your story about what exists, and
you would find millions of people believing you.

What would happen if the three major networks, each with considerable power, had
come up with three vastly different versions of the Boston massacre?’

Read more: The Elite Television Anchor: Center of the Psyop

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/the-elite-television-anchor-center-of-the-psyop/

[Maia Gabrial]

Obviously, these cops don't understand their own jobs. Obama is breaking laws. So, this moron thinks that's HIS excuse for not doing his job?

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[wnlight]

I would love to find the answer to your question, but how do we convince him to jump?

[BlueMuffin]

We haven't had a real president since JFK anyhow...

Otherwise, it's just a display of a bunch of cops without any intelligence.

[shadowstalker]

These particular type cops do just fine, till you violate there constitutional rights.
Funny how that goes.

[Magnus]

The video in the OP is unavailable "Video removed by user".

The missing video replaced:
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[Maia Gabrial]

These particular type cops do just fine, till you violate there constitutional rights.
Funny how that goes.

That's so true, shadowstalker. Same with all those criminal politicians in DC who are trying to wipe out our rights. They're not really, but let's let them think so alittle longer, so we can drop the boom on their heads. And we'll ask them "what rights are you talking about? You gave up yours."
We didn't. So, I wish people would stop saying that we've lost our rights when it's not true. Neutralize such talk and always speak power and truth.

[Maia Gabrial]

My guess is that this video is evidence of misconduct on the officer's behalf. Hope he's fired. No one needs an officer who won't protect and serve....

[East Sun]

If police want respect they should start by being respectful of all those people they come in contact with.
Are they conditioned to kill when it's unnecessary? Are they given drugs to make them violent and stupid?

This world is being controlled

it seems, by evil.

[linksplatinum]

By NORM DE PLEUME
Nobel Committee Asks Obama “Nicely” To Return Peace Prize
http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to-return-peace-prize.html
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Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, said today that President Obama “really ought to consider” returning his Nobel Peace Prize Medal immediately, including the “really nice” case it came in.

Jagland, flanked by the other four members of the Committee, said they’d never before asked for the return of a Peace Prize, “even from a damnable war-criminal like Kissinger,” but that the 10% drawdown in US troops in Afghanistan the President announced last week capped a period of “non-Peace-Prize-winner-type behavior” in 2011. “Guantanamo’s still open. There's bombing Libya. There's blowing bin Laden away rather than putting him on trial. Now a few US troops go home, but the US will be occupying Afghanistan until 2014 and beyond. Don’t even get me started on Yemen!”

The Committee awarded Obama the coveted prize in 2009 after he made a series of speeches in the first months of his presidency, which convinced the Peace Prize Committee that he was: “creating a new climate of...multilateral diplomacy...an emphasis on the role of the United Nations...of dialogue and negotiations as instruments for resolving international conflicts...and a vision of world free of nuclear arms.”

“Boy oh boy!” added Jagland. “Did we regret that press release!”
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Thorbjorn Jagland and members of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee celebrate Norway's annual aquavit-tasting festival
Thorbjorn Jagland and members of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee
celebrate Norway's annual aquavit-tasting festival yesterday

But, he revealed the committee members were all “legless drunk” the day they voted, as it was the start of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival. The “totally toasted” members listened over and over to replays of Obama’s Cairo speech, tearing up and drinking shots to the glorious future: a black man leading America and the world into a new era of peace, hope and goodwill. “For a few hours we were all 18 year-old students again at the beautiful, occasionally sunny University of Bergen! Oh, how we cried for joy!”

The chairman said the committee weren’t “going to be pills” about getting the Prize back because they still “basically really liked” Mr. Obama and that sending it back in a plain package by regular mail would fine if it would save him the embarrassment of a public return. But added Jagland, “things could get nasty” if the committee didn’t see it by the time they announce the new Peace Prize winner in the fall. He and the committee then excused themselves to resume their celebration of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival.

The White House had no comment. It later announced an aggressive new covert CIA initiative to identify and apprehend Al Qaeda operatives in Scandinavia.

[Omni]

lol These awards are a total joke. Good on them! At first I was skeptical of this being one of those disinfo satire type things, but I googled it and sure enough it's on places like abc etc... This news coming around the same time as Blair winning the philanthropist of the year by GQ. Maybe the nobel committee isn't run by the NWO puppet types. Maybe wishful thinking but if they indeed said this it seems like they might be decent uncorrupted people..

[Cidersomerset]

Well I hope he has the morality to send it back and apologise
for the false hope it signalled the world. Although it was probably
a shock to him at first.......

The same goes for Tony Bliar and what were GQ thinking.......


Boos and disbelief as Tony Blair is handed ‘jaw-dropping’ philanthropist of the year title at GQ awards ceremony

Wednesday 3rd September 2014 at 07:21 By david-icke

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Read more...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74538-JOKE---Middle-East-in-flames-for-over-a-decade-and-Blair-wins-philanthropist-award-by-GQ-magazine...&p=872418#post872418

[syrwong]

It is a satire because the rules forbids taking back of a Nobel Prize. The alternative media have been attacked by dumping lots of misinformation, that we are always wary of the validity. This is a good way to lift the credibility of MSM because everything goes by comparison.

If Obama were to appear on TV and say he was going to meet the chairperson of the Galactic Federation tonight, he would still be believed by many many people. Even many of us Avalonian would wonder if it might be true.

[Robin]

This is satire. Directly from their website (http://www.thefinaledition.com/page/why-we-are.html):


WHAT? The Final Edition aims to be the #1 humor experience on the Internet. Funny, smart, in-the-know. For adults of all ages. Humor that doesn’t require you to check your brain at the door. Satire of anything that could conceivably be described as news, but not necessarily what the news media says is news. Satire with teeth. The Huffington Post on nitrous oxide.

WHY? The supposedly coolest medium around - the Internet – is the lamest when it comes to funny. 24/7 it’s dudes clutching their testicles, cats playing piano, and toddlers channeling Charlie Sheen. But the world’s in an uproar, the planet’s melting and someone’s trying to buy your country. People want smart jokes not fart jokes. The hunger's out there. But no one’s feeding it. Humor is the glue of social networking. 90% of videos that go viral are funny.

HOW? Humor is fastest and most powerful way for people to express how they feel. The Final Edition will provide it for them – about the events, actions, public figures and decisions they find absurd, maddening or just plain wrong. About their passions at work or play, whether it's sports, courts, exports or Linzer tortes. Humor they'll want to share because it zeroes in on what matters to them most - and to their peers.

PROOF? The Final Edition has an unmatched humor pedigree. From The National Lampoon, SPY Magazine, The New Yorker, SNL and Monty Python to The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Spinal Tap, The Onion, and Real Time with Bill Maher, we’ve done funny. TFE will tailor smart, in-the-know humor for today’s social culture and interlocking communities of interest, by featuring the smartest up-and-coming humor writers, performers, artists and creators.

[Omni]

This is satire. Directly from their website (http://www.thefinaledition.com/page/why-we-are.html):


WHAT? The Final Edition aims to be the #1 humor experience on the Internet. Funny, smart, in-the-know. For adults of all ages. Humor that doesn’t require you to check your brain at the door. Satire of anything that could conceivably be described as news, but not necessarily what the news media says is news. Satire with teeth. The Huffington Post on nitrous oxide.

WHY? The supposedly coolest medium around - the Internet – is the lamest when it comes to funny. 24/7 it’s dudes clutching their testicles, cats playing piano, and toddlers channeling Charlie Sheen. But the world’s in an uproar, the planet’s melting and someone’s trying to buy your country. People want smart jokes not fart jokes. The hunger's out there. But no one’s feeding it. Humor is the glue of social networking. 90% of videos that go viral are funny.

HOW? Humor is fastest and most powerful way for people to express how they feel. The Final Edition will provide it for them – about the events, actions, public figures and decisions they find absurd, maddening or just plain wrong. About their passions at work or play, whether it's sports, courts, exports or Linzer tortes. Humor they'll want to share because it zeroes in on what matters to them most - and to their peers.

PROOF? The Final Edition has an unmatched humor pedigree. From The National Lampoon, SPY Magazine, The New Yorker, SNL and Monty Python to The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Spinal Tap, The Onion, and Real Time with Bill Maher, we’ve done funny. TFE will tailor smart, in-the-know humor for today’s social culture and interlocking communities of interest, by featuring the smartest up-and-coming humor writers, performers, artists and creators.
Odd, seems it is. When I googled it abc news had an article about it though. When googling t he exact thread title though it does show up as satire. Thanks for pointing it out.

I think these satire sites are to make people who are prone to align to such articles look bad(on places like facebook etc). My 2 cents.

[Daozen]

Sorry, no prize left. They smelted it down and sold off the gold leaf.

Who cares if it's satire? If a lot of people read the article it'll make them think.