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Deega
4th February 2014, 17:03
Hi,

Today, I received a YouTube video on "Obama Motorcade", I was impressed on so many people protecting the President!


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The best to everyone!

shadowstalker
4th February 2014, 17:13
And I suppose there carrying water guns (sarcasm)

Deega
4th February 2014, 17:30
Thanks Shadowstaker, No!, as you know, but it left one impression that enough protection is never enough!, or, a terrorist plot is ever present or formented against the US government!, who knows!

The best to you!

8Adamas8
4th February 2014, 17:42
Wonder if they would bust out the super soakers if somebody threw a water balloon.

Milneman
4th February 2014, 18:18
Where's the damn pipe n' drum corps? Jesus!

Deega
4th February 2014, 18:49
Wonder if they would bust out the super soakers if somebody threw a water balloon.

Thanks 8Adamas8, we know that it would be met with brutal force!

The best to you!

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Where's the damn pipe n' drum corps? Jesus!

Thanks Milneman, with this caravan going their ways, all they need is within multiple vans we have seen!

The best to you!

Sierra
4th February 2014, 18:56
o.m.g. ... Now that was ridiculous.

8Adamas8
4th February 2014, 19:51
Where's the damn pipe n' drum corps? Jesus!

Still trying to figure out what happened to the constitution 100 years ago.

brenie
4th February 2014, 20:02
Hi Folks, it must be someone important !
Did anyone count the vehicles, was that some 'hells angel' day out?

rgray222
4th February 2014, 20:13
It is unfortunate but that show of power is intoxicating to many leaders. The sense of self importance is unavoidable. Many people feel a sense of importance just being around it. The police and the secret service thrive on being close. It is human nature, it is understandable but it is sad and feeds the wrong part of our ego's.

Axman
4th February 2014, 21:06
My tax dollars hard at work I would like to have some back but now we see why they need o so much. What a fricken joke.

The Axman

Shezbeth
4th February 2014, 21:21
Seriously,... think of the tabulated cost of hourly wages that were accumulated in such an unnecessary process.

That made me feel a little ill (emotionally, not physically).

Axman
4th February 2014, 21:30
The US was asked what it cost to run Washington and they don't know same goes for what it costs to protect the president they don't say. If I ran my biz like that I would be in jail.
Just sayin.

The Axman

Milneman
4th February 2014, 23:35
I still think it would've been a more noble parade with the damn pipe n' drum corps.

Now...THIS is a parade! ;)

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Azt
5th February 2014, 00:30
It is interesting to see how our politicians, kings/queens ... need such a protection. If they were REAL leaders (not imposed ones but chosen by everyone), they would not need such protection from the public ...

Shezbeth
5th February 2014, 00:34
I still think it would've been a more noble parade with the damn pipe n' drum corps.

Now...THIS is a parade! ;)

I especially like how most all the men are in uniforms,... like they're military men or some such,....

jackovesk
5th February 2014, 00:37
What an absolute JOKE..!

&

The JOKE is on (You) America...:yes4:

ghostrider
5th February 2014, 04:21
I guess the bigger your ego , the bigger your motorcade ??? 24 cars , 46 motorcycles , the bikes alone at 23k a peice cost us 1,058,000 , huh ??? over one million for stupid rice burners ???:der:

Theseus
5th February 2014, 08:39
I wonder howmany of them were psychic reptilian shape shifting assassins.
And just plain regular run of the mill psychic shape shifting assassins



Hahahaaaah

Operator
10th February 2014, 17:00
I don't know how to bring this ... it appears as a hoax but then again MSM is bringing it in a serious context so ... :confused:



Obama has affair with Beyoncé

http://images0.tcdn.nl/incoming/article22286130.ece/BINARY/q/obamabeyonce.jpg

AMSTERDAM -

On social media sites are fully discussed an alleged affair between Barack Obama and Beyonce Knowles . A famous French photographer , who has rather large affairs revealed , claimed Monday that the respected Washington Post is about to reveal ... the alleged relationship between the U.S. president and popular singer

Barack Obama threatens to act thus . Follow in the footsteps of his predecessor Bill Clinton

The famous French paparazzo Pascal Rostaing claimed on radio station Europe 1 evidence of the affair in your hands. The photographer has made ​​several spectacular revelations in the past, all of which proved to be correct. Thus Rostaing in 2005 was the first to come up with pictures of Cecilia , the former wife of Sarkozy , the wealthy businessman Richard Attias . He revealed that Albert of Monaco had a son and Princess Caroline had entered into a relationship with tennis player Guillermo Vilas .

The Washington Post is known as one of the most respected newspapers in the U.S.. " Tomorrow picks up the newspaper with the scoop on Obama and Beyoncé ," reveals the photographer . "Even as President you fall for the charms of another woman . , The whole world will talk about it . "

Washington buzzing already been rumors about marital problems between Barack Obama and his wife Michelle . National Enquirer reported a few weeks ago that even the couple sleeping in separate rooms in the White House . Beyonce is married to rapper Jay - Z .


translated by Google.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/22286109/___Affaire_Obama_en_Beyonce___.html

Shezbeth
10th February 2014, 17:15
Hmmm. I don't know which of the following is their agenda, but the following are probable intended outcomes.

1. She gets more power (fame, sales, popularity, attention, political influence, etc.)
2. He gets equated with - wait for it - John F. Kennedy. What, you thought I was gonna say Clinton? He's next.
3. Rand Paul's "Clinton was a sex predator" work gets flushed in the public eye, as does any shot he had at the white house. Additionally, nostalgia plays its part and the people will want Clinton again, except THIS time,.... What better way to usher a new Clinton (who would 'have to beat Bush' by the way, another "win" for the people) than by invoking the 'laughable player',... who will play a most crucial part in Hellary's (I just made that up to my knowledge!) campaign.
4. Oh! Obama could be the first prez to ditch the old lady (and pawn the blame for who knows what on her). That one is more of a stretch, but I'm calling it anyway.

There's more causes/effects, those are just the big juicy ones I can see.

Cidersomerset
10th February 2014, 17:43
There was an article in the mail a few weeks ago,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/sitelogos/logo_mol.gif

So, Michelle and Barack Obama: What IS the state of your union? Rumours their 21-
year marriage has been racked by screaming rows, allegations of infidelity and a
string of jealous fights

Rumours surround frostiness between the couple in recent months
Reports claim they are now sleeping in separate bedrooms
Notorious selfie with Danish PM was the 'last straw', sources claim
Newly-slim First Lady 'planning her own life' for after end of husband's term


By Caroline Graham

PUBLISHED: 22:15, 1 February 2014 | UPDATED: 12:37, 2 February 2014


It is the question that has been dominating Washington dinner parties for weeks –
could the once-golden First Couple of the United States really be heading for the rocks?

If rumours are to be believed, the 21-year marriage of Barack and Michelle Obama
has been racked by screaming rows, allegations of infidelity and a string of jealous
fights.While the White House has refused to comment on the reports there has
been a distinct frostiness in the air between the couple in recent months.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/01/article-2550129-1B21A38300000578-475_634x421.jpg
DECEMBER 10, 2013 Not amused: Stoney-faced Michelle grits her teeth and rolls
her eyes skyward as Obama snaps his now infamous 'selfie' with Danish Prime
Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt and David Cameron at Nelson Mandela's memorial

According to a report in the National Enquirer – which plastered ‘Obama Divorce
Bombshell!’ across its front page – the pair have been at loggerheads since last
summer and are now sleeping in separate bedrooms.The ‘final straw’, apparently,
was Michelle’s outrage when her husband publicly humiliated her by openly flirting
and posing for his now infamous ‘selfie’ photograph with Denmark’s glamorous
blonde Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt at Nelson Mandela’s memorial service.

According to published reports, Mrs Obama is only standing by her 52-year-old
husband until his presidency ends.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550129/So-Michelle-Barack-Obama-What-IS-state-union.html#ixzz2swVh9mrQ
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SilentFeathers
10th February 2014, 17:45
She's been a regular fixture in the White House for years now......wouldn't surprise me if it's true. But usually when one hand is pointing at something it's best to try to see what the other hand is doing.

http://worldswisestman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/obama_surprised22.jpg
"I didn't have sexual relations with that woman, you know, that woman Beyonce"

Pweeky
10th February 2014, 17:55
I had the feeling that Obama didn't go up that road..

Operator
10th February 2014, 18:18
All your guesses are as good as mine ... I was totally surprised to find this as headline news.
Since it wasn't posted here I created this thread. And apparently something along these lines
did not break yet in the US as news. I wonder why the Washington Post would be waiting till
tomorrow .... anyway still surprised about this news.

Cardillac
10th February 2014, 18:45
then there have been reports (true or not?- I don't know- but I think the source was the WorldNetDaily website) of Obama and Rahm Emanuel having membership to a gay bath house in Chicago- sometimes I just don't know what to believe anymore-

but interestingly enough (or not) during the time of the Vancouver Olympics (and I can't recall anymore the topic of the article) one anonymous blogger in this article stated "Obama's children are not his biological children- he is sterile"-

now normally I would completely disregard such a brazen, undocumented statement but for some strange reason this hit my solar plexus like a battering ram and I immediately shot this off to a former, very dear Afro-American co-worker (figuring she wouldn't think 'they all look alike') and she immediately wrote back:

"This wouldn't surprise me in the least; I've never felt either of his children bear any physical resemblance to him whatsoever"-

it's obviously just her own personal opinion and maybe others would disagree- but there continues to be be an incredible shroud of mystery surrounding the US president-

stay well all-

Larry

spiritguide
10th February 2014, 19:15
Here is more on POTUS....

http://caravantomidnight.com/archives/2014-02-04-CaravanToMidnight-AudioArchive.mp3

First broadcast for John B. Wells formaly of C2C now with his own program.

Link to web site....

http://caravantomidnight.com

Peace!

outerheaven
10th February 2014, 19:27
Well, it sure would be an interesting way to hijack the headlines, eh?

I'm glad you posted the picture of Obama with Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Cidersomerset. At the time, I was wondering why that storyline was being promoted. IMO, everything about that Mandela memorial screamed psy-op, but I wasn't sure why the pictures of Michelle looking jealous and angry were being so heavily promoted. If they are hoping to embroil the POTUS in a sex scandal, it'd suddenly make a lot of sense.

And we're talking about Beyonce. Think of it. The public would go nuts. Forget hearing about any other news story while the revelations of Obama with the pre-eminent female singer/sex symbol rock the superficial US media and populace. You could bury any news story in that scandal. (Also remember the headlines questioning why Beyonce wore such a "stunning" dress to Michelle's birthday party. "Inappropriate!" the lambs screamed.)

So then, following this line of rhetoric questioning, I'd have to ask: why now? What do they want to cover up?

I don't think it's the NSA leaks, which seem to be co-opted as of now, if not from the beginning. Perhaps there's a major other story or event coming soon that they want to overshadow.

If this is true ... it will be huge news. Just not for the reasons the media will be talking about.

Operator
10th February 2014, 19:38
So then, following this line of rhetoric questioning, I'd have to ask: why now? What do they want to cover up?

I don't think it's the NSA leaks, which seem to be co-opted as of now, if not from the beginning. Perhaps there's a major other story or event coming soon that they want to overshadow.

If this is true ... it will be huge news. Just not for the reasons the media will be talking about.

Perhaps it has to do with the topic of this thread: Courtney Brown Announcement for February 2014 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February-2014) ?
If so ... man, it may get pretty weird ...

Harley
10th February 2014, 19:43
I somehow just can't envision Borat . . . er, Barack doing something like this.

Now Michelle might be a different story!

:jester:

Shezbeth
10th February 2014, 19:44
And we're talking about Beyonce. Think of it. The public would go nuts. Forget hearing about any other news story [...] following this line of rhetoric questioning, I'd have to ask: why now? What do they want to cover up?

Spot on. Not only would this kill any current news story (Obamacare, NSA, Drones, Benghazi, Executive Orders, etc), it would probably flip the public opinion graphs upside down and serve to discredit ANY alternative scrutiny of more sinister activities (he can't even pull off an affair without getting caught! How's he supposed to __________ without anyone noticing?). My head tells me this is a build up for Clinton to the '16 elections, but my gut tells me that we won't know until it happens (meaning, it could be even WORSE x_x' ).

freedom4all
10th February 2014, 19:50
Maybe Freeman is Right!
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Milneman
10th February 2014, 19:55
Or God forbid...maybe it's true.

Truth in media? NAH! ;)

Remember this one from a couple of days ago, about Russian skater Irina Rodnina (Rosana Rosanadana...why did that come to mind?) posting racist photos about Obama?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/russian-figure-skater-who-lit-olympic-flame-tweeted-racist-photo-of-obamas/

Why do I have this sudden mental image of about 200 children in very expensive clothing in a school yard scheming about throwing rocks at each other....

Selene
10th February 2014, 19:57
Well, there was JFK and Marilyn Monroe....

:rolleyes:

Cheers,

Selene

Harley
10th February 2014, 19:59
But I agree that this may be by design.

If this hits the mainstream it will redirect EVERYONE'S attention away from what's really important.

Kinda gives you the feeling that something's in the air doesn't it?

gripreaper
10th February 2014, 20:02
Hmmm. I don't know which of the following is their agenda, but the following are probable intended outcomes.

1. She gets more power (fame, sales, popularity, attention, political influence, etc.)
2. He gets equated with - wait for it - John F. Kennedy. What, you thought I was gonna say Clinton? He's next.
3. Rand Paul's "Clinton was a sex predator" work gets flushed in the public eye, as does any shot he had at the white house. Additionally, nostalgia plays its part and the people will want Clinton again, except THIS time,.... What better way to usher a new Clinton (who would 'have to beat Bush' by the way, another "win" for the people) than by invoking the 'laughable player',... who will play a most crucial part in Hellary's (I just made that up to my knowledge!) campaign.
4. Oh! Obama could be the first prez to ditch the old lady (and pawn the blame for who knows what on her). That one is more of a stretch, but I'm calling it anyway.

There's more causes/effects, those are just the big juicy ones I can see.

Sounds like you nailed it. Reintroduce presidential infidelity into our consciousness though the Rand Paul article on Bill Clinton, make Obama the first president to divorce, set up Hillary as the first female president, and then trash the country and blame it on the breakdown of society. Tie in Beyonce, Miley Cyrus, Katie Perry etc. and their provocative moves as the catalyst.

Bingo. You destroy the family unit, aggrandize women, marginalize men, bring the country down and blame it on morals!

Poly Hedra
10th February 2014, 20:06
Or maybe she's a mind controlled?? Which is something that was alluded to be the case, not to mention the whole lot of coverage her videos get for being illuminati symbolism?? Or maybe shes also part of it, being a handler like Kris Kristofferson was accused of being Cathy O Briens daughters handler.
Cathy O Brien wrote all about Clinton and Hilary Clinton too, being sick people who assaulted her and her daughter.
We are all aware of the connection between, fame, power and what these people have to do to keep their power.

Just a thought.....

SilentFeathers
10th February 2014, 20:09
But I agree that this may be by design.

If this hits the mainstream it will redirect EVERYONE'S attention away from what's really important.

Kinda gives you the feeling that something's in the air doesn't it?

It is starting to hit the mainstream, but they are immediately saying it's ridiculous and untrue with lightening speed, hmmmm? How can the huffington post etc know so fast it's not true??????? either way the scrambling begins :) I was due for a good laugh....

ADDED: seriously though, something major is going on IMO...distraction and scandal run rampant now a days....

SilentFeathers
10th February 2014, 20:36
By the way, which Obama are they talking about?????

http://ionehellobeautiful.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/beyonce-michelle.jpg
Beyonce and Michelle Obama have loved one another longer than I've realized. Since the Inauguration, the world is finally getting a chance to see that love ...

Harley
10th February 2014, 20:47
By the way, which Obama are they talking about?????

http://ionehellobeautiful.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/beyonce-michelle.jpg
Beyonce and Michelle Obama have loved one another longer than I've realized. Since the Inauguration, the world is finally getting a chance to see that love ...


That's the one!

Looks like bedroom eyes to me! :love:

Operator
10th February 2014, 20:54
More strange developments ...

In the same online newspaper the headline now says:



Washington Post denies 'scoop' about Obama

The washington Post denies that they will come out with such an article ...


This headline however still links to that first article without repeating this intro.
Normally they print something like 'Update:' in an article ... not the case here.

Shezbeth
10th February 2014, 20:57
Oh fantastic. What'll rile the public more than presidential infidelity with a pop-icon?

A presidential love triangle.

The thing about occult groups, it's not technically mind control because the individual knowingly and willingly submits to the will/direction of the presiding individual(s). It's more like a senior board member telling a middle-manager their particular roles and responsibilities in furthering company objectives. No need for drugs, psychological techniques, or technological devices, they just issue a directive which the aspiring member will follow, both to further their own 'career' and to manifest the agenda of the 'company' regardless of which is paramount to the individual.

In short, it amounts to following orders. A conscious participant is far more effective than a manipulated one, as the latter is limited by the degree of manipulation, while the former is limited only by their ability to creatively/intuitively play their part.

Sidenote - Michelle is clearly not in the power position in this exchange. B is in the stable position, pulling M towards her. Her head is inclined back, almost in defiance/contempt, and her smile is self-assured/confident in the least.

IMMO (metaformic) - No good can come of this, regardless of their agenda.

Edit: Don't be surprised if Avalon gets another wave of Guests reading into this.

SilentFeathers
10th February 2014, 21:28
Observations from a slightly different angle:

Michelle Obama recently told Beyonce; "Beyonce Thank you for the beautiful letter and for being a role model who kids everywhere can look up to." (http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/michelle-obama-beyonce-friendship/)

Seriously? a role model for our children to look up too?

Hmmm, let's think about this....

Beyonce recently on prime time at the grammys, dancing half naked and sexually exploiting herself while basically humping her husband (and vice-versa) on stage????

Beyonce, in almost every single performance being mostly naked and sexually exploiting herself singing rated R level lyrics while being surrounded by satanic and evil looking symbolism??????

Hmmmm???? not a role model I want my daughter looking up to......

Now this "child role model" is being talked about sleeping with the President (adultery)????? regardless of this latest rumor being true or false, is this a person any of you all can honestly say you want to have as a role model for your children??????

ADDED: The hypocrisy, insanity, and simple ridiculous nature of the actions/behaviors of some of these people makes me lean towards this rumor actually being true....it's basically totally believable.

Joe Akulis
10th February 2014, 22:31
When I read the first post in this thread this morning, I pretty much filed it away in the "believe it when I see it" bucket. Then on the way home I'm in the checkout line and I see the Enquirer front page: A picture of an angry Michelle with a headline about how she's sick of his cheating. Yeah, whatever, it's a rag, right? Except that rag was a great deal responsible for bringing John Edwards' affair to light.

Then right below the Enquirer I see The Globe: A picture of Bill Clinton next to Liz Hurley's magnificent breasts. The headline claims Bill also cheated with her too. So then I'm thinking, "Huh. Maybe there is something going on." And it sure looks to me like the Hurley thing is an attempt to "class" up the news so that it gets looked at in a JFK light, rather than a sloppy small time trist with an intern.

And now I'm also thinking you guys are headed in the right direction with the analysis. :-) Is the debate about the truth of all this going to take over here in the US in order to cover up something else that they don't want us to look at anymore?

Remember the earthquakes of August 2011? Right when people were starting to ask some very intersting questions about why an earthquake in D.C was felt in NYC, and why the seismic graphs of said earthquakes looked to some analysts more like explosions than earthquakes? What happened then?

Irene happened. Hurricane Irene was instantly bumped to front page status everywhere before it even came near the coast. You gotta prepare! Look at this! Then after Irene comes and goes, what are some news outlets like Huffington Post saying? It was the most overhyped hurricane they ever saw, that never amounted to anything worthy of the hysteria in the news.

SilentFeathers
10th February 2014, 23:09
Some times little things mean a lot. I find it quite weird for Obama to make a statement like this on the same day all this stuff comes to light about him and Beyonce.....

The synchronicity is quite, well, noticeable;

Obama: 'That's the Good Thing as a President, I Can Do Whatever I Want' (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-thats-good-thing-president-i-can-do-whatever-i-want_778944.html)

Of course he's referring to something else, but the universe works in mysterious ways :)

outerheaven
11th February 2014, 01:52
Well well, this wouldn't be an attempt to cover-up our newest attempt to start a war now, would it?

(Referring to H. Res 447 here.)

Azt
11th February 2014, 02:12
By the way, which Obama are they talking about?????

I think Mr. Obama is actually gay (based on the stories I read from his Hawaiian/Chicago times) if so an affair with Beyonce now will put some of those secrets under the carpet.

Selene
11th February 2014, 03:07
Well, as they say, the wife is always the last to know.

Mrs. O would be no different. Who would want to tell her such dire news? A personal example:

We once invited a colleague of my husband (and his wife) to a big party at our house. He showed up smiling without his wife, but with ‘girlfriend/mistress’ in tow.

I was flabbergasted. But all his colleagues simply shrugged and carried on, treating her politely if noncommittally. They knew. Fine. Whatever. I kept serving hors d’ouvres, a bit confused.

But the next day his wife phoned me, apologizing profusely that they’d missed the event, “he was busy at work....” etc. That’s what he’d told her, the jerk.

I was speechless. Q: What could I possibly say? A:‘Your husband is a lying skunk who had the nerve to show up publicly with his babe in tow and is screwing you over, dear loyal wife?’

I couldn’t do that. I’d never spoken to her before. How could I be the bearer of such devastating news? Why me? How had that skunk maneuvered me into this complicit position?

I thanked her for her very kind phone call. I hoped that we could get together at some point in the future.... nice noises. I hung up and began shaking.

WTF? Their eventual divorce came as no surprise.

No. Wifey is always the last to know. I feel for Michelle Obama. The last person in Washington to know.....

Sadly,

Selene

Operator
11th February 2014, 03:40
I feel for Michelle Obama. The last person in Washington to know.....

Hi Selene,

Nobody is currently sure about the authenticity of this article. It was just an article to tell that another
article would reveal this. The Washington Post in the mean time already denied that they would publish
an article like that. So it probably is only a big bubble of hot air ... just to draw the attention (away?).
Let's see what happens next.

Sidney
11th February 2014, 04:33
I am thinking, what bills are about to signed right about now, and need to be stopped. the petty gossip is a mere distraction from something somewhere.:gossip:

jagman
11th February 2014, 04:45
He is very close to being impeached according to the well respected journalist
Dr.Charles Krauthammer. He has changed the Healthcare act once again over
the weekend using executive action. A grand total of 27 changes.

According to Dr. Krauthammer He has absolutely No constitutional authority
to make changes to the Healthcare act and he also said tonight on Special
Report that it's a criminal offense.

There was also a report this weekend that General Carter Ham testified
under oath that he told then cia director Leon Panetta that Benghazi
was a terriost attack and it was carried out by professionals

The signifigance of that is? Panetta only answers to the president.
So either Pannetta changed the story or the President did for political
reasons (Presidential Election) Congressman Jason Chaffetz said that
he is going to subpoena Leon Panetta to testify.

Many real cracks are starting to form around the oval office and this just
might be a distraction

jackovesk
11th February 2014, 05:23
Obama has affair with Beyoncé

http://images0.tcdn.nl/incoming/article22286130.ece/BINARY/q/obamabeyonce.jpg

AMSTERDAM -

On social media sites are fully discussed an alleged affair between Barack Obama and Beyonce Knowles . A famous French photographer , who has rather large affairs revealed , claimed Monday that the respected Washington Post is about to reveal ... the alleged relationship between the U.S. president and popular singer

Barack Obama threatens to act thus . Follow in the footsteps of his predecessor Bill Clinton

The famous French paparazzo Pascal Rostaing claimed on radio station Europe 1 evidence of the affair in your hands. The photographer has made ​​several spectacular revelations in the past, all of which proved to be correct. Thus Rostaing in 2005 was the first to come up with pictures of Cecilia , the former wife of Sarkozy , the wealthy businessman Richard Attias . He revealed that Albert of Monaco had a son and Princess Caroline had entered into a relationship with tennis player Guillermo Vilas .

The Washington Post is known as one of the most respected newspapers in the U.S.. " Tomorrow picks up the newspaper with the scoop on Obama and Beyoncé ," reveals the photographer . "Even as President you fall for the charms of another woman . , The whole world will talk about it . "

Washington buzzing already been rumors about marital problems between Barack Obama and his wife Michelle . National Enquirer reported a few weeks ago that even the couple sleeping in separate rooms in the White House . Beyonce is married to rapper Jay - Z .


Obama with Beyoncé...:pound:

PS - I saw this article in 'Before its News' a couple of weeks ago and was never going to post because it seemed pretty far-fetched, but now after seeing the News about (Barry & Beyoncé) it deserves its rightful place ontop of the :bs: pile...

Is President Obama A Time Traveler? This Photo Raises Questions...

http://www.liberalamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/1-27-2014-12-07-04-AM.jpg

More photos & story here...

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/01/is-president-obama-a-time-traveler-this-photo-raises-questions-2463366.html

PSS - Wonder what Reggie Love has to say about it all...:pound:

http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/08/reggiestill-300x165.jpg


Will Reggie Love's loose lips sink Obama's ship?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/will-reggie-loves-loose-lips-sink-obamas-ship/

gigha
11th February 2014, 06:14
Sorry jack but i do believe these people to be truly evil. I can put anyones head on anyones body.
The trick is that the photos should all be of the same resolution. That makes it much easier. That pic of obummer on the beach:) just does not come up to snuff!! Looks very fake to me without the original??



Obama has affair with Beyoncé

http://images0.tcdn.nl/incoming/article22286130.ece/BINARY/q/obamabeyonce.jpg

AMSTERDAM -

On social media sites are fully discussed an alleged affair between Barack Obama and Beyonce Knowles . A famous French photographer , who has rather large affairs revealed , claimed Monday that the respected Washington Post is about to reveal ... the alleged relationship between the U.S. president and popular singer

Barack Obama threatens to act thus . Follow in the footsteps of his predecessor Bill Clinton

The famous French paparazzo Pascal Rostaing claimed on radio station Europe 1 evidence of the affair in your hands. The photographer has made ​​several spectacular revelations in the past, all of which proved to be correct. Thus Rostaing in 2005 was the first to come up with pictures of Cecilia , the former wife of Sarkozy , the wealthy businessman Richard Attias . He revealed that Albert of Monaco had a son and Princess Caroline had entered into a relationship with tennis player Guillermo Vilas .

The Washington Post is known as one of the most respected newspapers in the U.S.. " Tomorrow picks up the newspaper with the scoop on Obama and Beyoncé ," reveals the photographer . "Even as President you fall for the charms of another woman . , The whole world will talk about it . "

Washington buzzing already been rumors about marital problems between Barack Obama and his wife Michelle . National Enquirer reported a few weeks ago that even the couple sleeping in separate rooms in the White House . Beyonce is married to rapper Jay - Z .


Obama with Beyoncé...:pound:

PS - I saw this article in 'Before its News' a couple of weeks ago and was never going to post because it seemed pretty far-fetched, but now after seeing the News about (Barry & Beyoncé) it deserves its rightful place ontop of the :bs: pile...

Is President Obama A Time Traveler? This Photo Raises Questions...

http://www.liberalamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/1-27-2014-12-07-04-AM.jpg

More photos & story here...

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/01/is-president-obama-a-time-traveler-this-photo-raises-questions-2463366.html

PSS - Wonder what Reggie Love has to say about it all...:pound:

http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/08/reggiestill-300x165.jpg


Will Reggie Love's loose lips sink Obama's ship?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/will-reggie-loves-loose-lips-sink-obamas-ship/

cursichella1
11th February 2014, 06:24
Beyonce hardly needs more fame. Maybe Michelle's just sick of the drone killings, Wall Street coddling, Constitutional tosses, etc. He certainly didn't seem like a fascist when she married him (or when we voted for him...). Or is it that Obama is just a puppet and has no say and she's just pissed because he has no balls to stand up to it? Or maybe all of that power has gone to his head or it's another Clintonesque take down? Anyone seen Ken Starr hovering around? Or maybe this is just more distraction so we won't worry our silly little heads about complex subjects like economics, plutocracies, mass Middle East murder, resource grabbing, Israeli double standards and the fact that our Smart Meters are tracking more than kilowatt hours...

cursichella1
11th February 2014, 06:35
Well well, this wouldn't be an attempt to cover-up our newest attempt to start a war now, would it?

(Referring to H. Res 447 here.)

War?! Which war??! So many choices!!

Limor Wolf
11th February 2014, 07:27
Guys, please skip this post if you do not appreciate an opinion which may sound a little too strong. I will do my best to mellow it.

We are in deep trouble and in the middle of a true spiritual warfare on this planet, many of the things that we come to believe works a certain way, actually works in a different way. We need to learn, adjust and then transform it to what we want it to be.

A whole discussion about presidential affairs.. Who cares what these people represent? It is clearly not something that we would like to dwell on..
We are having quite a few challenges on this planet right now (all according to the plan) and we, in the alternative community are in no less trap (nothing that can't be fixed) for not seeing what needs to be seen, for not taking a hard cold look at the things thrown at humanity as we speak, some new challenges arising to the surface and it involves technology.

Such surprises may catch even the most 'positively oriented' person. There is only one good thing that may come of this last few days nonesense of a news about Obama and Beyonce and Bill Clinton and Elizabeth Harely or whatever, and that is some serious dot connecting.
I suggest reading the not so easy to digest 'Thanks for the memory' by Mkultra survivor Bryce Taylor Aka Sue Ford, to understand how things are really operated with this so called, 'higher level politicians' and 'higher level celebraties' and some inside sociey as well. All this things are orchastrated and controlled, these people are being controlled to a deeper level, no news here but worth to keep in mind and worth to find out how it is done, for what reason and who's next.

Quite a few responses here and not one that relates to these people being pupets for the council that operates all those things from above.

'Truth seekers' we call ourselves, well it just might be the time to look into things a lot deeper.

How can people be controlled in such a depth? that may be something that we would like to put our minds on very soon, because our minds are a no less a target than the rest of our bodies and our freedom depends on it.

I hope we can see it the way it is.. not so much about Obama, Michelle, Miley Cyrus or the recent Holywood celebrity, but about the overall picture of what was so twistedly built here, by whom and with what measures, because sooner or later we may find it in our own backyards

Many Blessings,

Limor

Harley
11th February 2014, 07:29
True or not, it's going viral.

This story will bury any and all stories for the near future.



French media goes crazy over rumor that President Obama and Beyonce are having an affair

01:30 EST, 11 February 2014

French photographer who discovered that President Francois Hollande was having an affair claims that President Obama is cheating as well

Cited alleged 'distance' that has been 'apparent' between Barack and Michelle Obama
recently

The Obamas are open fans of Beyonce and her husband Jay Z

A French media firestorm has been circulating claims that Barack Obama and Beyonce are dangerously in love.

It came as Francois Hollande, France’s head of state and a well-known love cheat, arrived in America on an official state visit without his now-ex partner, Valérie Trierweiler.

Rumours of an affair between the American president and the superstar singer- both of whom are married- were first made on Europe 1 radio station this morning.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/10/article-2556239-1B5E51FB00000578-896_634x429.jpg
Go-to singer: President Obama is an open fan of Beyonce as well as her husband Jay Z and they have served as fundraisers for his presidential campaigns

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/10/article-2556239-1B5E522700000578-694_634x489.jpg
Close: She was chosen to sing America the Beautiful at his second inauguration

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/10/article-2556239-1B5E51E700000578-341_634x644.jpg
Main squeeze: Beyonce also sang the First Couple's first dance at his 2009 inauguration

Read Article Here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556239/French-media-goes-crazy-rumor-President-Obama-Beyonce-having-affair.html)

The way this is laid-out, smells more like an OP to me.

MargueriteBee
11th February 2014, 08:14
None of the pages can be displayed when I googled Beyoncé Obama. They are working hard to shut down the story.

Shezbeth
11th February 2014, 08:17
Curischella1, it seems to me that the game is not about fame necessarily, as fame is just the means to an end. The game is power, and they are members of some of the most 'prestigious' schools of the game known to some.

Limor, I do appreciate your post, and you are absolutely right about where focus is shifted. However, I suggest that it does not do for the left hand to not be aware of what the right hand is doing.

I see no devotion, praise, or anything but abject disgust, critical perception, and a smattering of humor in response to this story,... at least here. While some in the world are just waking up to this story and countless numbers will fall to such a simple diversionary trick, I am quite pleased to see the degree of scrutiny and incredulity that is displayed here. I even hope (minimally) that this degree of discussion is sufficient to redirect some search engines to a more (IMO) rational outlook on the matter.

Their public occult rituals (this and others) may result in swooning by the masses but they seem to have no hold amongst Avalon (and others I hope). We may appear distracted for a moment in the discussion of this particular play, but only to strengthen our understanding of the foolishness, duplicity, and Machiavellian shenanigens that they are playing and will continue to play even if the individuals playing may change.

Simply, of course there are puppeteers, but most cannot see them. For those who cannot, it is enough to know that there are puppeteers especially when their intentions can be derived by seeing the foolish plays they perform.

spiritguide
11th February 2014, 11:13
Can the list of suspicious deaths during this admin. compare to Clinton's? After all doesn't O have a hit list he chooses from to accomplish these things. Speaking truth might call down a drone strike upon oneself. Did anyone listen to John B. Wells interview posted earlier on this thread? Too many dots in this picture to ignore.

Peace!

SilentFeathers
11th February 2014, 12:51
Guys, please skip this post if you do not appreciate an opinion which may sound a little too strong. I will do my best to mellow it.

We are in deep trouble and in the middle of a true spiritual warfare on this planet, many of the things that we come to believe works a certain way, actually works in a different way. We need to learn, adjust and then transform it to what we want it to be.

A whole discussion about presidential affairs.. Who cares what these people represent? It is clearly not something that we would like to dwell on..
We are having quite a few challenges on this planet right now (all according to the plan) and we, in the alternative community are in no less trap (nothing that can't be fixed) for not seeing what needs to be seen, for not taking a hard cold look at the things thrown at humanity as we speak, some new challenges arising to the surface and it involves technology.

Such surprises may catch even the most 'positively oriented' person. There is only one good thing that may come of this last few days nonesense of a news about Obama and Beyonce and Bill Clinton and Elizabeth Harely or whatever, and that is some serious dot connecting.

Strong opinion? hmmm? I do agree with you and will take it a step further (My strong opinion) :)

You mention spiritual warfare on this planet, dot connecting. Well, this is why the ridiculous nature of Obama and Beyonce thing may be worth paying attention to, part of a MAJOR dot connecting excercise :) The whole idea of a ridiculous rumor of Obama and Beyonce having an affair is just that, ridiculous and so what huh? But we need to look at the symbolism in my opinion to see why this even matters.

This is what I see: others may disagree....

Beyonce and JayZ are basically the Satanic and/or Illuminati poster children of the Whitehouse, shadow government, or whatever you want to call it. Through demonic and satanic puppet strings, they dance on the Whitehouse lawn and influence people across the nation and globe in ways most don't even realize. Michelle Obama calls Beyonce a role model for all children to look up too! give me a break! A role model in what way really? To manipulate and brainwash children (and others) to worship satan or a demon????? Lucifer?????

Beyonce (and JayZ) are basically Whitehouse fixtures and owned by the Obama's at the moment in my opinion. Thats why IMO, this story sounding as ridiculous as it seems has a much deeper meaning than some stupid love or sex affair. It goes way beyond that. Somethings going on to disturb or stir up a certain darkness in my opinion. Poster children are sometimes used as a sacrifice. In this case though, I think it may be actually an act of arrogance, using a tool to distract.

Another aspect is that the media is basically controlled by the left and this story can be twisted and controlled to a large degree in any way they want it. It's interesting that the story originated with the French and broke the same day Obama is galavanting around with the French President, visiting Monticello etc.....coincidence?

There's a huge group of people focusing on this right now, some that see beyond the surface and some that can only see the surface, no farther.

Often silly little stories like this seem to have little or no meaning, but actually hold the key to many doors of great meaning....this one may actually be somewhat holding the key to the bottomless pit!!!! LOL (I laugh, but I'm quite serious)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lRI7BXcC2LU/Ut0qxT7JMII/AAAAAAABhx8/G5FRM4eglOo/s1600/tumblr_mzo00mrg3l1rqgjz2o1_500.jpg

http://www.whale.to/b/beyonc35.jpg

spiritguide
11th February 2014, 18:39
Tells it like it is....

Tuesday, February 11th, 2014 | Posted by Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Obama+drones.jpg

Mr. President, PLEASE “unleash the drones” !

Dear President Obama,

I just read a Washington Post story headlined “U.S. weighs lethal strike against American citizen.” The Post says you are thinking about using a drone to murder a US citizen who has been accused of “plotting against American targets.”

“Plotting against American targets.” That isn’t very specific, is it? Back in the day, before I was Muslim, I used to plot against American targets all the time – in fact, I did it every time I played darts in the local pub. Not only did I plot, I sometimes actually hit the target! Good thing there were no drones in those days. Sometimes I wonder how we survived.

Now that I’m Muslim, I don’t plot against dartboards in pubs any more. So don’t drone me, bro!

But if some dude “plotting against targets” deserves to get whacked, I’d say there must be a lot of other folks who deserve it even more.

Take Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. He says you should be drone-whacking all kinds of people, but you’re not - “ because of self-imposed red tape.”

“Red tape” like the Constitution and its due process clause?

This Rogers guy isn’t just plotting. He’s using his powerful position to shred the Constitution of the United States of America. That’s treason – a capital crime. Some would call it the worst capital crime. If anybody in the world deserves to be extra-judicially executed, it is Mike Rogers.

So PLEASE, follow Rogers’ advice. To hell with red tape. To hell with the Constitution. To hell with the presumption of innocence. Just whack the sonofabitch!

While you’re at it, you might as well whack the entire Congress. Just about all of them have voted for shred-the-Constitution legislation.

It would save the taxpayers a lot of money if you just called in a tactical nuclear drone strike against Congress while it’s in session, rather than trying to whack the traitors one-by-one. The handful of Congressional reps who aren’t traitors, like the 13 Senators who voted against NDAA, could be warned in advance – the same way the Israelis at Zim Shipping, and all Hebrew-speakers using Odigo Instant Messaging, were warned before the World Trade Center was blown up.

You’ll also have to drone-strike the Supreme Court, which has presided over the destruction of the Constitution with nary a whimper.

And while you’re taking out the big-time traitors, don’t forget to whack Bush, Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, and the rest of the PNAC scumbags who murdered almost 3,000 Americans during the 9/11/2001 “New Pearl Harbor.” Additionally, a tactical nuclear drone strike against the next AIPAC convention, and smaller pinpoint strikes against the traitors of JINSA, wouldn’t be a bad idea.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/awlaki.jpg

After you’re done cleaning house, you’re going to have to face the fact that by extra-judicially executing all these American citizens, starting with al-Awlaki and his kid, you yourself will have become the very worst of the whole treasonous lot. That means you’re going to have to finish the job by holding a drone up to your own temple and pulling the trigger.

By becoming the first sitting US President in history to commit suicide-by-drone-strike, you will go down in history as a national hero who saved the US from the tidal wave of treason that broke over America beginning with the JFK assassination and reached epic levels of destructiveness with the 9/11 false flag operation and its aftermath.

Calling in a drone strike against your own treasonous ass would be the noblest act of self-sacrificing national service ever performed by a US President. Your smug, pompous face would be up there on Mount Rushmore in five years, tops.

And besides, I’m sure Michelle would be ecstatic.

So please, Mr. President: UNLEASH THE DRONES!

Sincerely,

Dr. Kevin Barrett, TruthJihad.com

Peace!

Joe Akulis
12th February 2014, 14:08
FYI - Beyonce isn't getting the job done. So they pulled out "catastrophic" winter storm Pax now, to keep you from finding out about something bad that's going on. :-)

jackovesk
16th February 2014, 02:58
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/Bomba-(R).jpg

Barack Obama's (Charade) of Lies & Deception sickens me to the (CORE) of my very being..!!!

This façade (WILL) have an ((END-DATE)), I just hope its sooner rather than later...

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/lietestob_dees.jpg

Barack Obama A.K.A Barry Soetoro, your day of (Reckoning) is coming...:scared:

You (Sick-Twisted) MoFo...:mad2:

PS - Never (EVER) underestimate the (POWER) of the collective (Human-Consciousness) Barry because Humanity is (Catching-Up) very quickly to the (LIE)...:wizard:

seeker/reader
16th February 2014, 03:19
Or maybe she's a mind controlled?? Which is something that was alluded to be the case, not to mention the whole lot of coverage her videos get for being illuminati symbolism?? Or maybe shes also part of it, being a handler like Kris Kristofferson was accused of being Cathy O Briens daughters handler.
Cathy O Brien wrote all about Clinton and Hilary Clinton too, being sick people who assaulted her and her daughter.
We are all aware of the connection between, fame, power and what these people have to do to keep their power.

Just a thought.....

This is what a lot of people on Vigilant Citizen's website are speculating about Beyonce. They are saying she is exhibiting Beta-Kitten programming and is possibly a "presidential model".

Limor Wolf
17th February 2014, 20:56
Guys, please skip this post if you do not appreciate an opinion which may sound a little too strong. I will do my best to mellow it.

We are in deep trouble and in the middle of a true spiritual warfare on this planet, many of the things that we come to believe works a certain way, actually works in a different way. We need to learn, adjust and then transform it to what we want it to be.

A whole discussion about presidential affairs.. Who cares what these people represent? It is clearly not something that we would like to dwell on..
We are having quite a few challenges on this planet right now (all according to the plan) and we, in the alternative community are in no less trap (nothing that can't be fixed) for not seeing what needs to be seen, for not taking a hard cold look at the things thrown at humanity as we speak, some new challenges arising to the surface and it involves technology.

Such surprises may catch even the most 'positively oriented' person. There is only one good thing that may come of this last few days nonesense of a news about Obama and Beyonce and Bill Clinton and Elizabeth Harely or whatever, and that is some serious dot connecting.

Strong opinion? hmmm? I do agree with you and will take it a step further (My strong opinion) :)

Often silly little stories like this seem to have little or no meaning, but actually hold the key to many doors of great meaning....this one may actually be somewhat holding the key to the bottomless pit!!!! LOL (I laugh, but I'm quite serious)

Let me clarify what I meant, SilentFeathers, you did touch some of the points though in your post.

This is from 1999 'Thank you for the memories' book written by Brice Taylor, who was a mind control asset for Kissinger and Bob Hope and as such served many presidents and Holywood connections.


"..During Reagan's administration, Henry Kissinger and George Bush used me often in a mind file capacity.. Dinners held to entertain important foreign leaders or politicians from our own country .. At these dinners, the president would clink his glass with a fork or spoon and propose a toast to the honored guest. All the presidents did it. Tapping of the wineglass was a means to call me to attention; most often it was a time when a very specific code was introduced to set me up for what I was to do the rest of the evening. After they clinked the glass, I suconsciously recieved the directions carefully embeded in the toast. Although Henry was the mastermind and loaded me up with information for targeted people for the evening, the presidents were always told that I was at their service for the evening when I was included at the dining arrangments. Henry really had his own agenda that I fulfilled within the evening, mingling with those persons he predirected me to. But he took the courtesy of letting the presidents feel they were in charge of me, so my instructions were to listen with an ear to hear the coded instructions and file them in with the instructions Henry had given me for the evening... These men thought they were given a gift, but they were really being interrogated or seeded by a program operative who had been well trained to do just that sort of job interwoven with sex..

My personal belief, based on my experiences, is that over the years, more leaders were under mind control. I believe it to be vitally important to dismantle the system that has created this, as well as gain aid for the victims, but not to further punish or humiliate the victims who are in need of professional help to heal. I know there has been corruption at the highest level in the White house, and whether compromised through blackmail, lack of spiritual integrity, or mind control, I believe the Clintons are caught in a "Catch-22."

In a society where mind control is insidious, the whole of society is responsible in some way, whether through ignorance, denial, spiritual disintegration or greed. To the extent that if some of us are not free, none of us are free. I believe it is God's perfect plan for those able persons to come to aid of those who are in need."

Now imagine how many strings are being pulled in such presidential sexual affairs. Nothing is left to develop naturally.. all for a purpose and all involved are puppets to be played with. Including the audience that consumes such 'news items'.

Blessings ~

Limor

Milneman
17th February 2014, 22:10
:suspicious:

GreenGuy
20th February 2014, 18:49
Why Is The Obama Administration Putting Government Monitors In Newsrooms? (http://newswatch.us/why-is-the-obama-administration-putting-government-monitors-in-newsrooms/)

If true (and I don't necessarily believe everything I read, especially just one source), it fits right in with Obummer's habitual trashing of the Constitution and dabbling with totalitarianism. Can anyone else add info to this?

jackovesk
25th February 2014, 16:12
http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2014/09/53cc166a65c2c76091a5b619e2d87c359609939e.jpg

Actor Steven Seagal: If Benghazi Truth Comes Out Obama Won’t Make It; Impeachment


Seagal: What happened with the truth about some of the greatest scandals in American history!?(under Obama) Says if the truth were to come out now about Benghazi Obama won’t make it through his term. He’ll be impeached…



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqCjrhmAxQU

Tyy1907
25th February 2014, 18:58
Say it Seagal!

seeker/reader
25th February 2014, 21:56
Segal is such a forthright person. This is the same guy who beat up his wife, Kelly LeBrock. Real upstanding martial artist he must be, beating up a defenseless woman. Many women have come forward accusing him of sexual harassment. I bet he is a great judge of character.

**************************
In 1988, Kelly says she suffered a horrendous incident at the hands of Seagal that would change their relationship forever and lead to a stormy divorce.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2402408/Kelly-LeBrock-comes-hiding-photoshoot-reveals-toll-drugs-divorce-took-her.html

**************************

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/kelly-lebrock-surprised-sex-abuse-claims-steven-seagal/

Steven Seagal's ex-wife said she was not surprised by claims the action star employed a female assistant as his "sex toy," The Sun reported Tuesday.

"Weird Science" actress Kelly LeBrock, who divorced Seagal in 1996, promised to dish some explosive dirt on her former husband in an upcoming autobiography.

"I have many shocking things to say about Mr. Seagal, which will be known soon when my book comes out," LeBrock told gossip website TMZ.

"I will refrain from saying anything specific now because of our three children."

Meanwhile, former assistant Kayden Nguyen was seeking $1 million in damages from the "Under Siege" star in court.

In papers filed in Los Angeles, Nguyen said Seagal also kept two young Russian aides as sex slaves, who were on call around the clock.

The former model, 23, was hired by the 59-year-old actor as his executive assistant but claimed he abused their professional arrangement by "pushing his hands under her shirt and attempting to fondle her bare breast."

He allegedly carried out a further sexual attack on Nguyen, forcing her to flee his Louisiana home leaving even her car keys behind.

Nguyen's lawsuit accuses him of sexual harassment, failure to prevent sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, retaliation, wrongful termination and false representation about employment.

Five more girls subsequently came forward with similar allegations about the martial arts hero.

Ponytailed Seagal vehemently denied the charges, which his lawyer called "a ridiculous claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Seagal
Allegations and lawsuits

Seagal has often been accused of sexual harassment during his film productions.[39][40] In May 1991 during the filming of Out for Justice, Warner Brothers employees Raenne Malone, Nicole Selinger, Christine Keeve and another woman accused Seagal of sexual harassment.[32] Malone and another women reportedly received around $50,000 each in return for a pledge of confidentiality in an out of court settlement.[32][41]

Jenny McCarthy has claimed that Seagal asked her to disrobe for him during an audition for Under Siege 2.[42]

1995 lawsuit
In 1995, Seagal was charged with employment discrimination, sexual harassment and breach of contract.[39] Cheryl Shuman filed a case against Seagal, accusing him of threatening and beating her during the filming of On Deadly Ground.[39] The case was dismissed by Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Hiroshi Fujisaki in August 1995 as "repetitive and unintelligible".[39]

2010 lawsuit
On April 12, 2010, 23-year-old Kayden Nguyen filed a lawsuit against Seagal in Los Angeles County Superior Court claiming sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, failure to prevent sexual harassment, retaliation, wrongful termination, and false representation about employment,[43][44] that specified damages exceeding one million dollars.[43][44][45] On April 13, 2010, the day after Nguyen made the claims, Seagal's attorney, Marty Singer, released this written statement to CBS news: "The lawsuit filed by Kayden Nguyen against Steven Seagal is a ridiculous and absurd claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired for using illegal narcotics."[44] Seagal personally denied the claims, yet he was forced to suspend his show, Steven Seagal: Lawman, while his attorneys attempted to resolve the case privately.[43] On July 14, 2010, three months after Nguyen made her claims against Seagal, the case was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiff without any public explanation.[46][47]

2011 lawsuit
On August 30, 2011, Steven Seagal was threatened with a lawsuit over his part in a police raid that was taped for his A&E reality show. Jesus Sanchez Llovera is seeking $100,000 in damages and wants a "formal written apology" from Seagal to his children for the death of their puppy, "a beloved family pet". Llovera says his 11-month-old puppy was shot and killed during the raid and that police also killed more than 100 of his roosters.[48]

jackovesk
25th February 2014, 23:34
Segal is such a forthright person. This is the same guy who beat up his wife, Kelly LeBrock. Real upstanding martial artist he must be, beating up a defenseless woman. Many women have come forward accusing him of sexual harassment. I bet he is a great judge of character.

**************************
In 1988, Kelly says she suffered a horrendous incident at the hands of Seagal that would change their relationship forever and lead to a stormy divorce.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2402408/Kelly-LeBrock-comes-hiding-photoshoot-reveals-toll-drugs-divorce-took-her.html

**************************

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/kelly-lebrock-surprised-sex-abuse-claims-steven-seagal/

Steven Seagal's ex-wife said she was not surprised by claims the action star employed a female assistant as his "sex toy," The Sun reported Tuesday.

"Weird Science" actress Kelly LeBrock, who divorced Seagal in 1996, promised to dish some explosive dirt on her former husband in an upcoming autobiography.

"I have many shocking things to say about Mr. Seagal, which will be known soon when my book comes out," LeBrock told gossip website TMZ.

"I will refrain from saying anything specific now because of our three children."

Meanwhile, former assistant Kayden Nguyen was seeking $1 million in damages from the "Under Siege" star in court.

In papers filed in Los Angeles, Nguyen said Seagal also kept two young Russian aides as sex slaves, who were on call around the clock.

The former model, 23, was hired by the 59-year-old actor as his executive assistant but claimed he abused their professional arrangement by "pushing his hands under her shirt and attempting to fondle her bare breast."

He allegedly carried out a further sexual attack on Nguyen, forcing her to flee his Louisiana home leaving even her car keys behind.

Nguyen's lawsuit accuses him of sexual harassment, failure to prevent sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, retaliation, wrongful termination and false representation about employment.

Five more girls subsequently came forward with similar allegations about the martial arts hero.

Ponytailed Seagal vehemently denied the charges, which his lawyer called "a ridiculous claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired."

*************************************
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Seagal
Allegations and lawsuits

Seagal has often been accused of sexual harassment during his film productions.[39][40] In May 1991 during the filming of Out for Justice, Warner Brothers employees Raenne Malone, Nicole Selinger, Christine Keeve and another woman accused Seagal of sexual harassment.[32] Malone and another women reportedly received around $50,000 each in return for a pledge of confidentiality in an out of court settlement.[32][41]

Jenny McCarthy has claimed that Seagal asked her to disrobe for him during an audition for Under Siege 2.[42]

1995 lawsuit
In 1995, Seagal was charged with employment discrimination, sexual harassment and breach of contract.[39] Cheryl Shuman filed a case against Seagal, accusing him of threatening and beating her during the filming of On Deadly Ground.[39] The case was dismissed by Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Hiroshi Fujisaki in August 1995 as "repetitive and unintelligible".[39]

2010 lawsuit
On April 12, 2010, 23-year-old Kayden Nguyen filed a lawsuit against Seagal in Los Angeles County Superior Court claiming sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, failure to prevent sexual harassment, retaliation, wrongful termination, and false representation about employment,[43][44] that specified damages exceeding one million dollars.[43][44][45] On April 13, 2010, the day after Nguyen made the claims, Seagal's attorney, Marty Singer, released this written statement to CBS news: "The lawsuit filed by Kayden Nguyen against Steven Seagal is a ridiculous and absurd claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired for using illegal narcotics."[44] Seagal personally denied the claims, yet he was forced to suspend his show, Steven Seagal: Lawman, while his attorneys attempted to resolve the case privately.[43] On July 14, 2010, three months after Nguyen made her claims against Seagal, the case was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiff without any public explanation.[46][47]

2011 lawsuit
On August 30, 2011, Steven Seagal was threatened with a lawsuit over his part in a police raid that was taped for his A&E reality show. Jesus Sanchez Llovera is seeking $100,000 in damages and wants a "formal written apology" from Seagal to his children for the death of their puppy, "a beloved family pet". Llovera says his 11-month-old puppy was shot and killed during the raid and that police also killed more than 100 of his roosters.[48]

What has this got to do with Benghazi Truth...:confused:

:focus:

seeker/reader
25th February 2014, 23:47
Segal is such a forthright person. This is the same guy who beat up his wife, Kelly LeBrock. Real upstanding martial artist he must be, beating up a defenseless woman. Many women have come forward accusing him of sexual harassment. I bet he is a great judge of character.

**************************
In 1988, Kelly says she suffered a horrendous incident at the hands of Seagal that would change their relationship forever and lead to a stormy divorce.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2402408/Kelly-LeBrock-comes-hiding-photoshoot-reveals-toll-drugs-divorce-took-her.html

**************************

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/kelly-lebrock-surprised-sex-abuse-claims-steven-seagal/

Steven Seagal's ex-wife said she was not surprised by claims the action star employed a female assistant as his "sex toy," The Sun reported Tuesday.

"Weird Science" actress Kelly LeBrock, who divorced Seagal in 1996, promised to dish some explosive dirt on her former husband in an upcoming autobiography.

"I have many shocking things to say about Mr. Seagal, which will be known soon when my book comes out," LeBrock told gossip website TMZ.

"I will refrain from saying anything specific now because of our three children."

Meanwhile, former assistant Kayden Nguyen was seeking $1 million in damages from the "Under Siege" star in court.

In papers filed in Los Angeles, Nguyen said Seagal also kept two young Russian aides as sex slaves, who were on call around the clock.

The former model, 23, was hired by the 59-year-old actor as his executive assistant but claimed he abused their professional arrangement by "pushing his hands under her shirt and attempting to fondle her bare breast."

He allegedly carried out a further sexual attack on Nguyen, forcing her to flee his Louisiana home leaving even her car keys behind.

Nguyen's lawsuit accuses him of sexual harassment, failure to prevent sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, retaliation, wrongful termination and false representation about employment.

Five more girls subsequently came forward with similar allegations about the martial arts hero.

Ponytailed Seagal vehemently denied the charges, which his lawyer called "a ridiculous claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired."

*************************************
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Seagal
Allegations and lawsuits

Seagal has often been accused of sexual harassment during his film productions.[39][40] In May 1991 during the filming of Out for Justice, Warner Brothers employees Raenne Malone, Nicole Selinger, Christine Keeve and another woman accused Seagal of sexual harassment.[32] Malone and another women reportedly received around $50,000 each in return for a pledge of confidentiality in an out of court settlement.[32][41]

Jenny McCarthy has claimed that Seagal asked her to disrobe for him during an audition for Under Siege 2.[42]

1995 lawsuit
In 1995, Seagal was charged with employment discrimination, sexual harassment and breach of contract.[39] Cheryl Shuman filed a case against Seagal, accusing him of threatening and beating her during the filming of On Deadly Ground.[39] The case was dismissed by Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Hiroshi Fujisaki in August 1995 as "repetitive and unintelligible".[39]

2010 lawsuit
On April 12, 2010, 23-year-old Kayden Nguyen filed a lawsuit against Seagal in Los Angeles County Superior Court claiming sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, failure to prevent sexual harassment, retaliation, wrongful termination, and false representation about employment,[43][44] that specified damages exceeding one million dollars.[43][44][45] On April 13, 2010, the day after Nguyen made the claims, Seagal's attorney, Marty Singer, released this written statement to CBS news: "The lawsuit filed by Kayden Nguyen against Steven Seagal is a ridiculous and absurd claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired for using illegal narcotics."[44] Seagal personally denied the claims, yet he was forced to suspend his show, Steven Seagal: Lawman, while his attorneys attempted to resolve the case privately.[43] On July 14, 2010, three months after Nguyen made her claims against Seagal, the case was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiff without any public explanation.[46][47]

2011 lawsuit
On August 30, 2011, Steven Seagal was threatened with a lawsuit over his part in a police raid that was taped for his A&E reality show. Jesus Sanchez Llovera is seeking $100,000 in damages and wants a "formal written apology" from Seagal to his children for the death of their puppy, "a beloved family pet". Llovera says his 11-month-old puppy was shot and killed during the raid and that police also killed more than 100 of his roosters.[48]

What has this got to do with Benghazi Truth...:confused:

:focus:

Segal is not a person of character. In court, if a claim comes from someone who is judged as being a reputable person, of good character, then that claim can be judged as having merit. If however that person is shown to be a person of bad character then their claims can be dismissed. That is why character witnesses are an important part of trials.

I will post nothing more on your thread.

jackovesk
26th February 2014, 00:26
Segal is such a forthright person. This is the same guy who beat up his wife, Kelly LeBrock. Real upstanding martial artist he must be, beating up a defenseless woman. Many women have come forward accusing him of sexual harassment. I bet he is a great judge of character.

**************************
In 1988, Kelly says she suffered a horrendous incident at the hands of Seagal that would change their relationship forever and lead to a stormy divorce.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2402408/Kelly-LeBrock-comes-hiding-photoshoot-reveals-toll-drugs-divorce-took-her.html

**************************

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/kelly-lebrock-surprised-sex-abuse-claims-steven-seagal/

Steven Seagal's ex-wife said she was not surprised by claims the action star employed a female assistant as his "sex toy," The Sun reported Tuesday.

"Weird Science" actress Kelly LeBrock, who divorced Seagal in 1996, promised to dish some explosive dirt on her former husband in an upcoming autobiography.

"I have many shocking things to say about Mr. Seagal, which will be known soon when my book comes out," LeBrock told gossip website TMZ.

"I will refrain from saying anything specific now because of our three children."

Meanwhile, former assistant Kayden Nguyen was seeking $1 million in damages from the "Under Siege" star in court.

In papers filed in Los Angeles, Nguyen said Seagal also kept two young Russian aides as sex slaves, who were on call around the clock.

The former model, 23, was hired by the 59-year-old actor as his executive assistant but claimed he abused their professional arrangement by "pushing his hands under her shirt and attempting to fondle her bare breast."

He allegedly carried out a further sexual attack on Nguyen, forcing her to flee his Louisiana home leaving even her car keys behind.

Nguyen's lawsuit accuses him of sexual harassment, failure to prevent sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, retaliation, wrongful termination and false representation about employment.

Five more girls subsequently came forward with similar allegations about the martial arts hero.

Ponytailed Seagal vehemently denied the charges, which his lawyer called "a ridiculous claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired."

*************************************
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Seagal
Allegations and lawsuits

Seagal has often been accused of sexual harassment during his film productions.[39][40] In May 1991 during the filming of Out for Justice, Warner Brothers employees Raenne Malone, Nicole Selinger, Christine Keeve and another woman accused Seagal of sexual harassment.[32] Malone and another women reportedly received around $50,000 each in return for a pledge of confidentiality in an out of court settlement.[32][41]

Jenny McCarthy has claimed that Seagal asked her to disrobe for him during an audition for Under Siege 2.[42]

1995 lawsuit
In 1995, Seagal was charged with employment discrimination, sexual harassment and breach of contract.[39] Cheryl Shuman filed a case against Seagal, accusing him of threatening and beating her during the filming of On Deadly Ground.[39] The case was dismissed by Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Hiroshi Fujisaki in August 1995 as "repetitive and unintelligible".[39]

2010 lawsuit
On April 12, 2010, 23-year-old Kayden Nguyen filed a lawsuit against Seagal in Los Angeles County Superior Court claiming sexual harassment, illegal trafficking of females for sex, failure to prevent sexual harassment, retaliation, wrongful termination, and false representation about employment,[43][44] that specified damages exceeding one million dollars.[43][44][45] On April 13, 2010, the day after Nguyen made the claims, Seagal's attorney, Marty Singer, released this written statement to CBS news: "The lawsuit filed by Kayden Nguyen against Steven Seagal is a ridiculous and absurd claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired for using illegal narcotics."[44] Seagal personally denied the claims, yet he was forced to suspend his show, Steven Seagal: Lawman, while his attorneys attempted to resolve the case privately.[43] On July 14, 2010, three months after Nguyen made her claims against Seagal, the case was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiff without any public explanation.[46][47]

2011 lawsuit
On August 30, 2011, Steven Seagal was threatened with a lawsuit over his part in a police raid that was taped for his A&E reality show. Jesus Sanchez Llovera is seeking $100,000 in damages and wants a "formal written apology" from Seagal to his children for the death of their puppy, "a beloved family pet". Llovera says his 11-month-old puppy was shot and killed during the raid and that police also killed more than 100 of his roosters.[48]

What has this got to do with Benghazi Truth...:confused:

:focus:

Segal is not a person of character. In court, if a claim comes from someone who is judged as being a reputable person, of good character, then that claim will be judged as having merit. If however that person is shown to be a person of bad character then their claims can be dismissed. That is why character witnesses are an important part of trials.

I will post nothing more on your thread.


I will post nothing more on your thread

Gee, you could have knocked me over with a feather. I'm absolutely shattered...:) :wave:


Actor Steven Seagal: If Benghazi Truth Comes Out Obama Won’t Make It; Impeachment..!

:focus:

Rocky_Shorz
26th February 2014, 01:12
oh no... Steven Seagal drank the fox kool aid... Hey Sheriff, you're getting too much Arizona sunshine on the brain... put a hat on...

yeah I'm sure Obama is really scared the truth will come out that Cheney/Bush's letter agency prison/torture camp was over run in Benghazi by freedom fighters, whining afterwards they weren't protected by US military in Lybia...

one of the best spins ever created by Fox...

phillipbbg
26th February 2014, 06:35
Amazing was reading the following thread

How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68819-COINTELPRO-2.0-confirmed-How-Covert-Agents-Infiltrate-the-Internet--Snowden-GCHQ-docs-confirm-

Then came to this thread and low and behold a perfect example ................

kemo
26th February 2014, 08:57
I don't trust a 'celebrity's' opinion about anything any more than anyone else's or my own intuition. I didn't know the other stuff about Seagal but he sure as hell can't act.

jackovesk
26th February 2014, 09:13
Amazing was reading the following thread

How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68819-COINTELPRO-2.0-confirmed-How-Covert-Agents-Infiltrate-the-Internet--Snowden-GCHQ-docs-confirm-

Then came to this thread and low and behold a perfect example ................


I don't trust a 'celebrity's' opinion about anything any more than anyone else's or my own intuition. I didn't know the other stuff about Seagal but he sure as hell can't act.

I couldn't give a rats effing snooker whether Seagal is a bad actor or

even if he's part of some elaborate psyop...:pound:

What I do give an eff about is (EXPOSING) Barack Obama for the (CRIMINAL-FRAUDSTER) he is...:wizard:

On top of that Sherriff Joe wouldn't be associated with someone who is working for the other team...:nono:

Crikey Charlie, some here have wild Conspiratorial imaginations...:faint:

Semi_Famous Actors have a lot more pull when exposing the Real Crims, so much so that the Sheeple might even (Wake-Up) and start listening...:confused:

Better use my Disclaimer before I say something that may get me into trouble...


Disclaimer:

Out of respect to fellow members jackovesk can no longer engage in introspective debate with another member of this forum if he does not agree with &/or find another's opinion old-hat or forms poor judgement due to combative behavior or someone who is knowingly soothing one's taste for petty revenge...

jackovesk apoligises for any inconvenience caused...:neo:

superconsciousness
26th February 2014, 09:31
Anything of significance will be attacked on a public forum such as this...so long as you won't lose your job/reputation over posting, no real damage is done. Intelligence and other personnel with an agenda have access to posting online, so little that can be done from having discussions sidetracked and being attacked unless all posts are approved before posting. Forums are used by the intelligence community to ensure that information is released in a controlled manner, so if forums do not have moderators who approve messages before they are posted, the forum is largely controlled by outside forces. Someone within our network said to another member of Avalon that he would be paid a visit if he shared too much information on a particular topic...still, how else can information spread? Anyway, Obama blew it on the Bengazi front, and if someone like Seagal had something to say about Obama or Bengazi, the same thing that happened in this thread would happen in the mainstream media, assuming of course that Seagal's disclosure reached a critical mass via mainstream media, which is unlikely. Seagal would experience character assassination, similar to attacks on our own character a while back when we were talking about sustainable communities. I guess that means the indigenous should also be attacked since they have mastered the art of sustainable communities? Anyway, I would be surprised if Seagal ever goes public, but you never know...perhaps he's up for character assassination and having his skeletons dragged out of his closet for all to see. Someone else really needs to bring the issue to the forefront, but in doing so, anything against Obama is for Putin in many respects. Attacking one side of the geopolitical fence over another ultimately serves little purpose. Being pro peace and focusing on peaceful activities is the best approach, but most people like a good fight which is why our planet is in such bad shape today...but disclosure is necessary, so it's a rather messy situation in which we find ourselves.

ghostrider
26th February 2014, 17:33
the obama regime watched in real time while americans were killed for gun-running for the CIA ... so you have to be blameless spotless and not in the movies to tell your truth about bengazi ???

Rocky_Shorz
26th February 2014, 21:02
the secret of the whole spin is never saying what happened, just letting people's imagination go wild...

do you think Seagal is afraid of saying the military had time to respond to our Spooks cry for help?

do you think the truth about a CIA torture prison would turn Americans against Obama?

how many of the top brass would say, ummm, it's already known if spooks get caught in foreign countries, they are on their own...

they got caught in Benghazi...

the terrorists weren't the ones being held in the cells...

the terrorists were the jail keepers...

CIA supports terrorism, not our military

that's why US navy stood down...

Fox won't tell you the most important part, the puppet ambassador was just a front for the main operations...

I'm very disappointed in Seagal, he always stood against oil cartels, pollution and corrupted officials, now he's bending over and grabbing his ankles...

Strat
26th February 2014, 21:24
What I do give an eff about is (EXPOSING) Barack Obama for the (CRIMINAL-FRAUDSTER) he is...:wizard:


Good luck with that. Seagal is seriously not helping.

The guys been crazy for a while and I never even knew about the abuse. Recently (past couple years) he's been claiming to have taught MMA fighters certain techniques and claiming their victories because he taught particular fighters strikes they used.

We're not talking crazy kung fu from the jungles of Thailand stuff, I'm saying basic strikes. He's so full of BS. Another (retired) MMA fighter called him out for this stuff (cause it's offensive to the fighters who train really hard) and challenged him to fight. He said sure as long as there are not cameras.

Koya-whatshisname on this forum trains. Ask his opinion of Seagal.

phillipbbg
26th February 2014, 23:01
So predictable............lol

ExomatrixTV
27th February 2014, 01:19
FWZ4HPAdTew

m0F2uB__6ec

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 01:39
What I do give an eff about is (EXPOSING) Barack Obama for the (CRIMINAL-FRAUDSTER) he is...:wizard:


Good luck with that. Seagal is seriously not helping.

The guys been crazy for a while and I never even knew about the abuse. Recently (past couple years) he's been claiming to have taught MMA fighters certain techniques and claiming their victories because he taught particular fighters strikes they used.

We're not talking crazy kung fu from the jungles of Thailand stuff, I'm saying basic strikes. He's so full of BS. Another (retired) MMA fighter called him out for this stuff (cause it's offensive to the fighters who train really hard) and challenged him to fight. He said sure as long as there are not cameras.

Koya-whatshisname on this forum trains. Ask his opinion of Seagal.

G'day Strat...:thumb:

I still don't get it...:confused:

Is the anything (Wrong) with anyone bringing the spotlight on one of the most (Despicable Acts) in US Govt. history...:confused:

A character assassination of (Segal's Character) has got nothing to do with his exposing (Benghazi) does it...:confused:

The more that are aware of Benghazi, the better. Don't you think...:confused:

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 02:00
So predictable............lol

Please Explain...:confused:

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 02:08
FWZ4HPAdTew

m0F2uB__6ec

Good find ExomatrixTV...:thumb:


Say what you want about Segal.... standing up in public and saying what the headline says, takes some strength.

Well said Carmody, my sentiments exactly...:thumb:

Now tell me (Seagal Haters), is there anything wrong with that...:confused:

Carmody
27th February 2014, 02:14
Say what you want about Segal.... standing up in public and saying what the headline says, takes some strength.

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 02:16
Say what you want about Segal.... standing up in public and saying what the headline says, takes some strength.

:bump:....

phillipbbg
27th February 2014, 04:07
So predictable............lol

Please Explain...:confused:

"In the annals of internet conspiracy theories, none is more pervasive than the one speculating paid government plants infiltrate websites,
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

HAve a read of above then revisit this thread and look at each post carefully and see .... if it is not obvious then so be it , it is to me. And this is not a challenge to any off the posts just an observation , especially the process of discreditation

Ulyse30
27th February 2014, 04:46
Bonjours, pouvez-vous me traduire sa en francais, s'il vous plait cela m'intérèsse vraiment, et mon ordi ne peut le traduire, et moi je suis pas très bon en anglais, désolé pour mon manque d'éducation,....!!!!! Merci pour votre aide généreuse,...!!!

heretogrow
27th February 2014, 05:04
Sorry I don't speak French but I wish I did! As for Stephen Segal, yeah it takes strength and once you go out on that limb to expose the truth you are left in a corner of your own, which is discredited and manipulated by those who do not want the truth exposed. He is a hero in my book. As well as many Avalonians who stick their neck out to make a difference!

skyflower
27th February 2014, 05:10
Wow, I have some newfound respect for this man. Was never a fan of his as an actor, but I see him in a new light.

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 05:16
So predictable............lol

Please Explain...:confused:

"In the annals of internet conspiracy theories, none is more pervasive than the one speculating paid government plants infiltrate websites,
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

HAve a read of above then revisit this thread and look at each post carefully and see .... if it is not obvious then so be it , it is to me. And this is not a challenge to any off the posts just an observation , especially the process of discreditation

I see what your alluding towards...



Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics:

(1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and
(2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.

To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: “false flag operations” (posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting “negative information” on various forums.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

I can see 'Very Clearly' :shocked: this practice going on right here on this 'Thread"...:yes4:

Houston we have a Problem...:wizard:

How say you ((seeker/reader))...???

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 05:31
Bonjours, pouvez-vous me traduire sa en francais, s'il vous plait cela m'intérèsse vraiment, et mon ordi ne peut le traduire, et moi je suis pas très bon en anglais, désolé pour mon manque d'éducation,....!!!!! Merci pour votre aide généreuse,...!!!

English Translation


Hello, can you translate it in french me, please really interested me, and my computer can not translate it, and I'm not very good in English, sorry for my lack of education .. ..!! Thank you for your generous support ...!

Steven Seagal: Si Benghazi vérité sort Obama ne le fera pas; mise en accusation

Seagal: Qu'est-ce qui s'est passé avec la vérité sur certains des plus grands scandales de l'histoire américaine (sous Obama) dit que si la vérité devait sortir maintenant sur ​​Benghazi Obama ne sera pas le faire à travers son terme. Il va être mis en accusation ...

http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2014/09/68940d4890f367d5288a79913161b08817ec9558.jpg

http://planet.infowars.com/activism/steven-seagal-if-benghazi-truth-comes-out-obama-wont-make-it-impeachment

Iran -Contra d'Obama : Le vrai scandale Benghazi

Aaron Klein
Daily Caller
20 août 2013

On aurait du mal à trouver une offense répréhensible plus important que le complice des ennemis jurés des Etats-Unis , en particulier lorsque ce soutien comprend l'envoi d' armes à nos adversaires meurtrières . Un crime de cette ampleur serait certainement d'autant plus grave si ces mêmes ennemis ont tourné autour et ont utilisé les armes US fournis à tuer des Américains .

Nous ne sommes pas ici référence à la soi-disant scandale " Fast and Furious " dans laquelle ministère de la Justice du président Obama volontairement accepté, avec des conséquences mortelles , autorisé marchands d'armes à vendre des armes à des acheteurs de paille illégales avec l'intention de suivre les armes au cartel de la drogue mexicain dirigeants .

Au lieu de cela , nous documentons un scandale pistolet de marche beaucoup moins rapporté , celui que vous allez bientôt considérer comme le " Fast and Furious " du Moyen-Orient , l' Iran -Contra de l'administration Obama . Il pourrait être la Maison Blanche s'en est pas une fois mais deux fois avec la même faute d'armer nos ennemis .

Dans le cas présenté ici , l'ennemi ne consiste pas de barons de la drogue , mais d'al- Qaïda , avec l' infusion de djihadistes anti-américains de sorcières .

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/19/obamas-iran-contra-the-real-benghazi-scandal/

PS - Espérons que cette aide...:neo:

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 05:37
PSS - For any of you with knowledge of the (Real Constitutional Power the Sheriff County's throughout America) actually have...

Don't be at all Surprised if Sherrif Joe's investigation into (Obama's Birth Certificate) brings DOWN Obama once and for all...:wizard:

...and SOON :)

I can virtually guarantee you Obama will be (GONE) before his 2nd term ends...:yes4:

GreenGuy
27th February 2014, 06:48
I can virtually guarantee you Obama will be (GONE) before his 2nd term ends...:yes4:

What worries me is who will replace him. Is there anyone who has a shred of integrity and statesmanship, anywhere in Washington? Obama's regime has been a huge eye-opener for me, because I would never have believed that anyone could be a worse president than George W. Bush. How naive I was - but it's been a good thing too, because now I believe I see both parties with crystal clarity, and they can't fool me again.

Back to impeachment, who's available to replace Obama? Who would have the ability to gain America's trust? What about the trust of our allies? Who would our enemies root for? I cannot think of a single individual in Washington who I would trust to lead my country, and that's a sad thing for this veteran to say.

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 06:55
I can virtually guarantee you Obama will be (GONE) before his 2nd term ends...:yes4:

What worries me is who will replace him. Is there anyone who has a shred of integrity and statesmanship, anywhere in Washington? Obama's regime has been a huge eye-opener for me, because I would never have believed that anyone could be a worse president than George W. Bush. How naive I was - but it's been a good thing too, because now I believe I see both parties with crystal clarity, and they can't fool me again.

Back to impeachment, who's available to replace Obama? Who would have the ability to gain America's trust? What about the trust of our allies? Who would our enemies root for? I cannot think of a single individual in Washington who I would trust to lead my country, and that's a sad thing for this veteran to say.

You should be feeling (EMPOWERED) by now knowing the Truth...:yes4:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM

PS - Not even Rand Paul...:noidea:

meeradas
27th February 2014, 07:32
It's OT, but shall serve the thread as a :bump::


Wow, I have some newfound respect for this man. Was never a fan of his as an actor, but I see him in a new light.

I can relate; first, i thought "he's an [...] actor", too...

but then I gained a huge amount of 'newfound respect' for him after watching this here, years ago:

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This guy isn't a mere actor, after all - he's a master. Hats off to the man.

Lifebringer
27th February 2014, 08:32
I agree spending all that money on guns and war when the people are struggling to be educated for the future.

Qui.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Somebody asked me a month ago, (pryingaftersaying they were Anunaki) "so what kind of weapons you got?" I looked her in the eye, and said: "I am the weapon."

Steven and I have an awful lot in common. But I like ju jitsu better than them all. To take them down, but taking their balance.

Lifebringer
27th February 2014, 08:36
I can virtually guarantee you Obama will be (GONE) before his 2nd term ends...:yes4:

What worries me is who will replace him. Is there anyone who has a shred of integrity and statesmanship, anywhere in Washington? Obama's regime has been a huge eye-opener for me, because I would never have believed that anyone could be a worse president than George W. Bush. How naive I was - but it's been a good thing too, because now I believe I see both parties with crystal clarity, and they can't fool me again.

Back to impeachment, who's available to replace Obama? Who would have the ability to gain America's trust? What about the trust of our allies? Who would our enemies root for? I cannot think of a single individual in Washington who I would trust to lead my country, and that's a sad thing for this veteran to say.

You should be feeling (EMPOWERED) by now knowing the Truth...:yes4:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM

PS - Not even Rand Paul...:noidea:

YUK! I just regurgitated from that one Jacko. I'm going in the bathroom for some baking soda to take the taste away. This chimp played America for Chumps for Wall Street Elites and Corporate Warmongers. Ewwww.....

Lifebringer
27th February 2014, 09:12
Oh dear God, it's happened again, and now the 19 year old smart behind daughter will need counceling for causing all this, by being disrespectful to her parents. Ahh..karma. Consequences of one's actions towards honoring their father and mother that their days will be longer. Looks like there's gonna be a few reprecussions that no one saw coming.

jackovesk
27th February 2014, 14:12
Feb 24, 2014

Only the immediate impeachment of Barack Obama can halt the accelerating push for a thermonuclear World War III. Patriots must now join our efforts to find one Representative with the courage to defend the U.S. Constitution.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAWtrR4sxjE&feature=player_embedded

Rocky_Shorz
27th February 2014, 19:38
"if the truth came out..."

what truth...

if Seagal is so all knowing spill the beans, say what it is that would cause Obama to be impeached...

don't bend over for politics because you think you need Joe's support to win a Senator seat in Arizona...

Arizona likes Mavericks...

you stand for the natives?


ask Joe if he remembers Arizona was Mexico 160 years ago...

linksplatinum
27th February 2014, 21:49
WWIII...
Ha, oh sure... that isn't going to happen... not on our watch!!! If that were the case that would have already happened before, they just keep the bluffing game going to keep people scared so they can consume "eat" off of those emotions... There has been an intervention between the "Cabal" and and those above, that have our best interests in mind, and they have been notified that they will not, I repeat, WILL NOT, do any such thing, or they will face dire repercussions themselves...

Ioneo
28th February 2014, 00:46
Take Obama out and the next stooge will take his place and continue the same policies.

Strat
28th February 2014, 15:44
G'day Strat...:thumb:

What up bud?!


I still don't get it...:confused:

Is the anything (Wrong) with anyone bringing the spotlight on one of the most (Despicable Acts) in US Govt. history...:confused:

Morally? No.


A character assassination of (Segal's Character) has got nothing to do with his exposing (Benghazi) does it...:confused:

Um.. No? Did I assassinate his character? I did say he was full of the excrement of a large mammal so you may be right. That being said I am definitely not a Seagal expert. Maybe he builds wells in Africa in his spare time?


The more that are aware of Benghazi, the better. Don't you think...:confused:

The more the merrier!


---------

All joking aside we just think and operate differently in these matters. My thinking is that when there is a large issue which needs to be resolved then whatever figure head comes into play needs to be a bit eloquent and articulate. Someone with character with a decent track record. Nobodies squeaky clean I'm just saying a checkered past really doesn't help.

Now, one could say that it's bad to judge a person on their past. This may be true, but you gotta admit how humans operate: When a controversial subject is brought up between 2 people, 90% of the time person A is just throwing out all the facts they have to trump person B's argument, and vice versa. Everybody wants to be the center of attention by dropping their knowledge.

If their are multiple people involved in the discussion then it's mandatory to let people know how you know. If you say "because Steven Seagal says so" then that's really not helping the situation. It's like saying Jeffery Dahmer gave you the info; it's a bit of a disservice in the end.

See what I'm saying?

jackovesk
28th February 2014, 15:47
G'day Strat...:thumb:

What up bud?!


I still don't get it...:confused:

Is the anything (Wrong) with anyone bringing the spotlight on one of the most (Despicable Acts) in US Govt. history...:confused:

Morally? No.


A character assassination of (Segal's Character) has got nothing to do with his exposing (Benghazi) does it...:confused:

Um.. No? Did I assassinate his character? I did say he was full of the excrement of a large mammal so you may be right. That being said I am definitely not a Seagal expert. Maybe he builds wells in Africa in his spare time?


The more that are aware of Benghazi, the better. Don't you think...:confused:

The more the merrier!


---------

All joking aside we just think and operate differently in these matters. My thinking is that when there is a large issue which needs to be resolved then whatever figure head comes into play needs to be a bit eloquent and articulate. Someone with character with a decent track record. Nobodies squeaky clean I'm just saying a checkered past really doesn't help.

Now, one could say that it's bad to judge a person on their past. This may be true, but you gotta admit how humans operate: When a controversial subject is brought up between 2 people, 90% of the time person A is just throwing out all the facts they have to trump person B's argument, and vice versa. Everybody wants to be the center of attention by dropping their knowledge.

If their are multiple people involved in the discussion then it's mandatory to let people know how you know. If you say "because Steven Seagal says so" then that's really not helping the situation. It's like saying Jeffery Dahmer gave you the info; it's a bit of a disservice in the end.

See what I'm saying?

To be honest mate, not really...:noidea:

Strat
28th February 2014, 16:00
To be honest mate, not really...:noidea:

Yeah, an Aussie wouldn't...

JOKING!! I did state my opinion and I'll move on. I think one part of freedom is expression of ideas without ridicule or serious critique. I'll take off after one last thing:



HAve a read of above then revisit this thread and look at each post carefully and see .... if it is not obvious then so be it , it is to me. And this is not a challenge to any off the posts just an observation , especially the process of discreditation

Hey bud, not making fun here but I'm curious why you posted this. Your original reply was after my not-so-nice post so I can understand why you'd post what you did but... do you think I'm a "JTRIG covert ops agent?" I don't mind being confronted so long as your truthful about how you feel.

I often hear on the forums that we're at threat at infiltration or whatever so me being accused of such wouldn't be surprising.

jackovesk
28th February 2014, 16:10
To be honest mate, not really...:noidea:

Yeah, an Aussie wouldn't...

JOKING!! I did state my opinion and I'll move on. I think one part of freedom is expression of ideas without ridicule or serious critique. I'll take off after one last thing:



HAve a read of above then revisit this thread and look at each post carefully and see .... if it is not obvious then so be it , it is to me. And this is not a challenge to any off the posts just an observation , especially the process of discreditation

Hey bud, not making fun here but I'm curious why you posted this. Your original reply was after my not-so-nice post so I can understand why you'd post what you did but... do you think I'm a "JTRIG covert ops agent?" I don't mind being confronted so long as your truthful about how you feel.

I often hear on the forums that we're at threat at infiltration or whatever so me being accused of such wouldn't be surprising.

:pound: Just picturing me old mate Strat as a :spy:...:pound:

All good...:thumb:

The only reason I posted this thread was to get the word out on the Truth of what happened at Benghazi...:yes4:

I see ((Benghazi)) the only issue here...:yes4:

Not Seagal's alleged private life, couldn't give an effing toss about innuendo & gossip...!!!

Rocky_Shorz
28th February 2014, 22:31
and in case you are wondering why I brought up the 3 letter agency camp in Benghazi...

of course Seagal is upset the military didn't save them, considering...


Seagal has also caught the attention of the media due to his mysterious and questionable life. Not only has he hinted at having been involved with the CIA

link to autobiography (http://www.biography.com/people/steven-seagal-9542595)

now Steven, you know the rules of being a spook in foreign countries...

if you are caught, you're on your own, why blame Obama, you know the rules...

swoods_blue
3rd March 2014, 13:21
If you've read widely on Project Avalon forums, you've probably come to the conclusion long ago that Benghazi is small potatoes.

Gerald Paris
15th March 2014, 17:47
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z78FLx7C4Kc

Published on Mar 14, 2014
Ronald Reagan once famously wondered what would happen if the world were presented with the prospect of an alien invasion. It was Reagan's belief that humanity would be able to put aside all of their differences and come together to oppose such a common threat. We may soon see if he was correct.

If the accomplishments of the Obama administration can be summed up in three words, those words would be failure, scandal, and treason. The president and his toadies had to repeatedly lie to the people of the United States in order to pass the massive fail known as Obamacare, they have been lying to the American people and stonewalling Congress over what really happened in Benghazi for the last 18 months, and they are currently lying and/or pleading the fifth over the IRS's targeting of Tea Party groups. Let's not forget "Operation Fast and Furious," NSA spying on American citizens, the targeting of journalists, unconstitutional recess appointments, illegal military actions in Libya, and the unconstitutional and extrajudicial killings of Anwar al-Alawki, Samir Khan, and al-Alawki's 16-year-old son Abdulrahman who was killed in the CIA drone strike two weeks after his father for no particular reason.

Talk of impeachment is rampant in the halls of Congress, ordinary Americans are waking up all across the country; and they are angry. Even liberals are beginning to see the dangers posed by Barack Obama. Liberal constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley says that the United States is in a "constitutional crisis," and the ACLU has called Obama "judge, jury and executioner."

The last time there were anti-Obama protests in Washington DC, 1.8 million bikers roared through the town and patriots tore down the "Barrycades" that were preventing the nation's heroes from reaching their monuments; the ones that they earned with their sweat, their devotion to country, and their blood. When protesters started marching towards the White House Obama got into Marine One and fled the nation's capital. On May 16th millions of Americans are set to converge in Washington DC for Operation American Spring, and Obama can see the handwriting on the wall. He desperately needs a win to avoid impeachment and conviction by the Senate for high crimes and misdemeanors against the people of the United States.

According to former CIA spy Dr. Jim Garrow, Obama intends to quash all of the scandals plaguing his administration by announcing to the world that humanity has been in contact with extraterrestrials, and that he (Obama) has been selected to speak for humanity. Garrow says that this announcement will be timed to come after an imminent currency collapse orchestrated by Russia and China in a secret deal approved by Obama, who has not given up on his plans to wipe out up to 300 million Americans with an electromagnetic pulse - a triple threat from a POTUS known to double-down when his back is against the wall.

An EMP would send the US back to the 1800's without the infrastructure to support 314 million people. Overnight those people would be too busy trying to stay alive, too busy fighting hunger and disease to fight the absolute tyranny Obama and his masters seek to impose on the United States. With the nation crippled after attacks from numerous vectors, including terrorist attacks within the US perpetrated by Chinese, North Korean, and Iranian terrorists, Obama intends to complete his stranglehold on the country by asking for UN forces to keep the peace and suppress dissent. The irony is that those forces will be made up largely of our communist and Muslim enemies. I suppose we'll be busy fighting them too.

Obama's plan to set off an EMP last fall was thwarted by three brave flag and general officers of the United States military, men in charge of our nuclear security, who were subsequently fired from their positions when they refused to give Obama access to those weapons. According to Dr. Garrow, one of the weapons Obama tried to steal was detonated at sea in the Atlantic Ocean causing a 2.2 magnitude earthquake that was verified by the US Geological Survey. Two more weapons are still under the control of patriotic members of the United States military.




---------------------------G's note---------------------------

I do not ask anyone to believe what is presented here, only to consider and open discussion.

Much Love

G

Amanda
16th March 2014, 11:12
I truly believe that the only reason any government will 'announce' their interaction and communication with Intergalactic Visitors - is for control. Fear and inciting fear is what the government the cabal/illuminati/whatever do everyday. Announcing to the world what many of already know is just an attempt to maintain the fear based mind control and brain washing that has been in place for too long to mention.

People in the awakened state know what has been happening and many many people are in the state of rousing, which means they are asking questions about the world ans society and asking why the horrors continue. I believe that most people want peace and to live an uncomplicated life based on happiness and health.

I know there are benevolent Intergalactic Visitors and I have always felt that help would come when we as a global community are ready to accept that help. Any government that suddenly finds themselves needing to 'announce' what many already know - is a sure sign that the illusory paradigm in which we currently live - is crumbling.

Much Peace - Amanda

Cardillac
16th March 2014, 15:14
just my own personal, cheap opinion: the nations of the world are still desperately scrambling to find a 'plausible' <cough> explanation for the masses in regard to the unexplainable disappearance (and it's completely unexplainable according to what we've been taught about the world out there) of Malaysian Airlines flight 370;

so until we get a logical explanation (there is none- it's impossible to lose track of a plane due to satellite technology owned/operated by all major nations- so where did the plane go?- just simply disappeared...) of flight 370 I somehow think "official disclosure" of an alien threat/benevolence will continue to remain on a track siding-

so if the nations of the world can't yet provide a logical/palettable explaination regarding flight 370 (there is none despite the countless/continuing MSM info spins) and if/IF there is "supposed to be" a so-called alien abduction behind this mystery, me thinks those "officials" who want "disclosure" (exposing aliens either benovolent or otherwise) would've immediately latched onto this situation faster than we can pronounce "epoxy" but yet they haven't; WHY?-

I repeat: due to satellite technology it is absolutly impossible to lose track of a plane unless it...just disappeared;

we "sheeple" can't even figure out yet what makes everything in our own world tick and yet the masses are expected to believe "aliens" are controlling everything?- I think disclosure is going to remain on the back burner for a while:

once the malevolence of world political/religious leaders is exposed and the fact that there are other dimentions out there completely out of alien control as well will "disclosure" have a chance-

be well all-

Larry

STR
16th March 2014, 15:31
It will only be made public when it can be turned into a business model. Same for free energy. Only when they find a way to meter it and make $ from it will anything be made public. If they could just be happy with all the gadgets and gear we buy to run off that energy maybe it would clear their head but they want to have their cake and eat it too!

jackovesk
22nd March 2014, 03:28
Mar 13, 2014


Join me as I wreck my last artifact of support for the war criminal-in-chief!! *I figured out the fraud a while back, but recently found this shirt in my closet :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMnIh10po0
PS - Whoever is watching this, please remember to simply use your own innate (Common Sense) when trying to weed through all the constant Lies & Deceit this man has not only done to the US but throughout the rest of the world aswell..!

ghostrider
22nd March 2014, 03:52
Those in power only seek more power ... Under a smokescreen of peace , they all plan for world domination , and kill anyone who gets in the way of their planned tyranny ... the cloned murder machines they will unleash on us will backfire on them as well , they will lose control of them , for AI will control itself - from the Henoch prophecies ... Too bad this person put their trust in a corrupt system , hoping that changing the person in office , would change the game , nope ... same suit , same agenda , just different faces , the agenda doesn't change ... WORLD DOMINATION ... Time to support each other , not the insane leaders ... I long for the day that wisdom and peace rules the earth ...

jackovesk
22nd March 2014, 04:58
I was just thinking the other day about what should be done with all these (Murdering 'CRIMINAL' Politicians)..?

Bit macabre, however this is what I see as (Fair & Honest) punishment for their kind...:yes4:

Line them (ALL) Up...On (Live) TV

https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDqdK2eEfpLDPsH&w=720&h=478&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia% 2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Ff%2Ffa%2FUS_Cabinet_official_g roup_photo_July_26%252C_2012.jpg%2F720px-US_Cabinet_official_group_photo_July_26%252C_2012. jpg

I'd like to see a (New TV Series) starring Anthony Hopkins


Called - Quid Pro Quo...:wizard:

Format - I'll ask each of you just (1) Question & if you LIE to me (Justice will be Served)

Hannibal would Ask the 'Question' ready at hand with one of these...

http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-baseball-bat-clip-art_111454_Baseball_Bat_clip_art_medium.png

And if they LIE...:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEaxwyBjTwU

Now that's one (Reality TV Show) I'd pay good $Money to see...:yes4:

..........................................

Then I'd like to see (ALL) of (Rounded Up) and put into a (Brand New) Maximum Security (Prison) designed and built especially for them..!

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/02/07/1226572/954037-cessnock-maximum-security-prison.jpg

(Big Brother) Format with 24 Hour surveillance so the (World) can watch them 24/7 and witness their ultimate demise with their Power Gone. Waiting & Watching them (ALL) turn against one another trying to survive...

Bit like a (ZOO) for the (Criminally INSANE)..!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8z4KgRS7R6A/UVBsJVGwbdI/AAAAAAAABSk/OCAZRlSr84Q/s1600/Big+Brother.jpg For a CHANGE...!!!!!

jackovesk
22nd March 2014, 05:07
Rape, Pillage & Plunder: The USA Is Going Under – Steve Quayle On The Crimea Crisis And How It Affects Us

Friday, March 21, 2014

Steve Quayle breaks down the crisis in the Crimea and Ukraine and quickly points out that the USA has lost all respect around the world.

With American leadership being so completely exposed as inept and the legitimate Ukrainian government being replaced by a banker, the crisis in the Ukraine will affect every American as the timeline to the US dollar becoming totally irrelevant speeds up due to this manufactured crisis.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiMwch3Wi04&feature=player_embedded
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/253/6/9/obama_vs_putin_by_iamtheunison-d6lugnx.png

Rocky_Shorz
22nd March 2014, 05:40
LMAO...

so Obama is responsible for signing treaties to protect 54 countries that happened years before he was born?

we all hate the Fed...

tanking the dollar, cuts them loose

Cheney/Rothschild attack on China was stopped...

WW III has been aborted...

to bad Dick's mom didn't to save the world a lot of hurt...

Kissinger, your fingerprints are all over this mess...

Russia banned Republicans from visiting...

their world is shrinking...

jackovesk
22nd March 2014, 05:59
LMAO...

so Obama is responsible for signing treaties to protect 54 countries that happened years before he was born?



Out of Context Rocky...:yes4:

I have taken the reference out, just for you Rocky...:pound:


This illustrates rather well the ((sheer magnitude of US commitments around the world)). It’s worth remembering, too, as Nima Shirazi noted, that not every state that Washington commits itself to militarily is listed here (Israel is conspicuous for its absence). So, US military commitments go beyond even this lengthy list.

Why? Politicians will tell you this is about defending freedom and democracy (right…). Policy wonks will rattle off old chestnuts about global security and international cooperation. More accurately, this helps institutionalize US hegemony (that is, unrivaled power over all other states in the system).

This doesn’t merely demonstrate how taxpayer money and resources go to the defense of other countries. It illustrates the pervasive conviction in Washington that there are few, if any, spots on the planet that aren’t vital US interests that require military interventionism. ((America’s mandate is limitless, it would seem)). Antiwar.com

jackovesk
22nd March 2014, 06:11
Door to Door Obamacare


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2LiTHy0rRw
White House Refuses To Disclose Cost Of Michelle Obama’s Taxpayer-Funded China Trip

20 March 2014

Michelle Obama, her two kids, her mother, and numerous aides will enjoy a taxpayer-funded trip to China from March 19 to March 26. White House officials refuse to tell U.S. taxpayers how much they will shell out for the trip, likely due to inevitable media scrutiny.

http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Michelle_Obama-0c5f6-300x199.jpg

Michelle Obama’s top aide, Tina Tchen, will be joining on the trip. She said, ”We are not discussing or disclosing information regarding the details of the logistics of the trip.”

Still, the aide did not try to conceal her excitement. She said, “I think we are all, here in the First Lady’s office, quite excited about the upcoming trip… I think the First Lady is very much looking forward to it.”

The Chinese trip will undeniably be expensive. But Ben Rhodes, the White House’s deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, insisted that the price tag is well worth it. He said, “The most powerful message we can deliver [to Chinese people] is one of the examples of not just the First Lady’s life story but of America and our values. That alone I think speaks to things like respect for human rights that are interwoven into the DNA of the United States of America… The First Lady’s story itself sends a powerful message about the ability of someone of a disadvantaged economic background from a minority group to ascend to the position that she did in private life and now as First Lady.”

[More...]

http://benswann.com/white-house-refuses-to-disclose-cost-of-michelle-obamas-taxpayer-funded-china-trip/

Ahnung-quay
22nd March 2014, 13:07
"Respect for human rights that are interwoven into the DNA of the United States of America"- doesn't extend to our right to know the cost of the trip. Excuse me while I puke!

jackovesk
28th March 2014, 02:04
What Happens If A US President Stops Speaking, And Nobody Claps

03/26/2014

... does it mean that everyone saw right through the endless bluster, hollow rhetoric and empty promises of the man tasked with reading from a teleprompter, and currently in charge of one of the world's most totalitarian states? Because either someone is getting fired for forgetting to turn on the "applause" sign, or Europeans no longer care for the lies uttered by Obama on all topics NSA-related (and all other topics too).


One wonders: how long until the US president finally gets the same treatment in his own country?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVFrdWIs2LI&feature=player_embedded
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-26/what-happens-if-us-president-stops-speaking-and-nobody-claps

:clap2:

jackovesk
28th March 2014, 02:19
Mia Marie Pope Oust Obama on The Manning Report.

Recorded 31 October 2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy2K5SIuK2E#t=240

sigma6
28th March 2014, 03:23
Points for the Europeans... LOLOLOL...

privacy, rule of law, individual rights, bahahahahaah

that was beautiful! ... absolutely beautiful... I salute you Europe! Thank you...


... at the late-night.... double feature..... picture.... sho-w-w...
I want to goo-oooo... oh oohhh ohhhh.... (ouch!!! )

The US is still run by closet case homosexuals, going back to Hoover ... woww!!!
This really is a Rocky Horror Picture Show...

D2krC_DsLnI
How surreal, Obama, the disposable President of the US...
Literally a coke whore, transvestite wearing pathological liar... somebody pinch me... I always thought the day he was voted in, that he was set up to fail, they were planning on dragging the US through the mud, and he was always the fall guy, perfect setup... the con man conned... what a joke...

linksplatinum
28th March 2014, 03:25
Classic.......

AjaJane
28th March 2014, 03:33
Mia Marie Pope Oust Obama on The Manning Report.

Recorded 31 October 2013



Very interesting interview. I found a webpage that sums up some facts that relate to this.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/orlytaitzletter24feb09.shtml

Hope this hasn't been posted previously, I'm new here :)

Gerald Paris
28th March 2014, 04:04
This thread wins hard.


THANKS FOR POSTING!!

Much Love

G

T Smith
28th March 2014, 04:29
To specifically address the question of your thread:

The American population is under extreme bombardment from every angle and with every mind-control psyops and psychological warfare technique available to the controlling powers. I can only assume more so than in Europe, Australia, and elsewhere. Yes, there is the same propaganda and false paradigm elsewhere in the world, and the PTB are also attacking on all fronts. But judging from the general awareness of the masses in other parts of the world relative to the masses in America, I can only conclude that there is an intensified attack specifically on the American populous. As it is America's military, political leadership, and national fiat currency that have been hijacked and commandeered largely to drive the NWO agenda in its relentless charge, it is perhaps understandable that the globalist strategy is to double down on its underlying population to ensure they are as zombified as possible and in a collective fog so to reduce any risk whatsoever that the masses (who really do hold the power to throw a wrench in their plans) would ever dream to take back their military, political institutions, and financial system.

I am an American. I will say, without reservation, that 90% - 95% of all Americans -- this is not an over estimation -- and this includes doctors, professors, surgeons, lawyers, pilots, software programers, and so on -- have no idea whatsoever what a dollar even is. They have no idea how the monetary system works. Even the intelligentsia and upper strata in American culture are in a trance. America is the stomach of the world. For no particular fault of their own, Americans enjoy the windfalls of the US dollar being the world's reserve currency; the job of Americans is to consume and digest. The same 90% - 95% have no idea this is even their assigned role. So, at the end of the day, there is no need or urgency to snap out of it.

But don't misunderstand me. This is not for a lack of intelligence, character, or because of an non-dynamic population. I believe Americans are perhaps among the more intelligent and dynamic--even among the more moral--humans on the planet. No, this is a deliberate attack on the the so-called "free world" and a deliberately thought-out and induced condition.

jackovesk
28th March 2014, 05:32
Points for the Europeans... LOLOLOL...

privacy, rule of law, individual rights, bahahahahaah

that was beautiful! ... absolutely beautiful... I salute you Europe! Thank you...


... at the late-night.... double feature..... picture.... sho-w-w...
I want to goo-oooo... oh oohhh ohhhh.... (ouch!!! )

The US is still run by closet case homosexuals, going back to Hoover ... woww!!!
This really is a Rocky Horror Picture Show...

D2krC_DsLnI
How surreal, Obama, the disposable President of the US...
Literally a coke whore, transvestite wearing pathological liar... somebody pinch me... I always thought the day he was voted in, that he was set up to fail, they were planning on dragging the US through the mud, and he was always the fall guy, perfect setup... the con man conned... what a joke...

My sentiments (Exactly) sigma6...:yes4:



How surreal, Obama, the disposable President of the US...
Literally a coke whore, transvestite wearing pathological liar... somebody pinch me... I always thought the day he was voted in, that he was set up to fail, they were planning on dragging the US through the mud, and he was always the fall guy, perfect setup... the con man conned... what a joke...


PS - I've stated previously that Obama won't see out his 2nd term...By design or by default..?

If Sheriff Joe has anything to do with it he (Won't)...:nono:

http://jarkesypolitical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-620x465.jpg

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: New Criminal Evidence About To Be Released – 3/26/2014


Sheriff Joe Arpaio: New Criminal Evidence About To Be Released – 3/26/2014 – Details: This video outlines the document and ID fraud surrounding Barack Obama with his known aliases, AKA Barry Soetoro, AKA Soebarkah; and his Constitutional eligibility to hold the Office of the United States Presidency. Due to new criminal evidence, a 2nd official investigation has been opened by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office unrelated to the original ID fraud investigation of Barack Obama. The public has been put on notice of an upcoming press conference disclosing this new criminal evidence which has been characterized as “Universe Shattering” by lead investigator Mike Zullo of the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwj2tk7Ee9c&feature=player_embedded
– Complete Details:

http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/03/must-see-tv-sheriff-joe-arpaio-obama.html

PS - It still angers me to this Day, that the (Sheeple-Fools) can't see the (Truth) even when its right in front of their EyE's...:shocked:

Obama is a Felon...:yes4:
Obama is a Felon...:yes4:
Obama is a Felon...:yes4:

Matt P
28th March 2014, 10:30
@ t smith: "But don't misunderstand me. This is not for a lack of intelligence, character, or because of an non-dynamic population. I believe Americans are perhaps among the more intelligent and dynamic--even among the more moral--humans on the planet. No, this is a deliberate attack on the the so-called "free world" and a deliberately thought-out and induced condition."

I humbly disagree. Americans are the dumbest, laziest, most violent, most easily manipulated population on the planet. They may be the victims of a massive and highly professional brainwashing campaign but that is no excuse for the pathetic zombie enablers they have become. They have no intelligence of money and where it comes from. They have no knowledge of history or current events. They care more about sports than the environment that sustains them. They have no common sense whatsoever. And their politicians, corporations and media keep beating them down and abusing them and they do NOTHING in return. They allow their illegal and illegitimate government to destroy nations and murder millions of innocent human beings all over the world in their name.
Sorry, sometimes the truth hurts and until we can be honest about what we have become, I'm afraid the world will get more of the same. Please stop sugar-coating the American s**tpile.

I have felt in my gut for years that, should we not clean our own house, eventually the rest of the world will rise and join together to put an end to our destructive empire. I'm sorry to believe this but it appears to be playing out.

Matt

T Smith
28th March 2014, 12:13
@ t smith: "But don't misunderstand me. This is not for a lack of intelligence, character, or because of an non-dynamic population. I believe Americans are perhaps among the more intelligent and dynamic--even among the more moral--humans on the planet. No, this is a deliberate attack on the the so-called "free world" and a deliberately thought-out and induced condition."

I humbly disagree. Americans are the dumbest, laziest, most violent, most easily manipulated population on the planet. They may be the victims of a massive and highly professional brainwashing campaign but that is no excuse for the pathetic zombie enablers they have become. They have no intelligence of money and where it comes from. They have no knowledge of history or current events. They care more about sports than the environment that sustains them. They have no common sense whatsoever. And their politicians, corporations and media keep beating them down and abusing them and they do NOTHING in return. They allow their illegal and illegitimate government to destroy nations and murder millions of innocent human beings all over the world in their name.
Sorry, sometimes the truth hurts and until we can be honest about what we have become, I'm afraid the world will get more of the same. Please stop sugar-coating the American s**tpile.

I have felt in my gut for years that, should we not clean our own house, eventually the rest of the world will rise and join together to put an end to our destructive empire. I'm sorry to believe this but it appears to be playing out.

Matt

I agree with almost all of these statements. I have felt this same disgust. These are often my same sentiments when I get into "rant mode." So I can't say I'm offended in any way.

However, my comments were not trying to sugar coat or condone anything you have laid out. What I see here is a highly diabolical social order, specifically targeted at and foisted upon the American population for reasons I speculate in my previous post. Human beings anywhere in the world, subject to the same conditions, would respond in kind, and perhaps in ways even less flattering. But that doesn't mean to suggest I am providing an excuse for the way we Americans have responded.

In the most impoverished inner cities, where very subtle oppression from the outside culture is the greatest, individuals subconsciously inculcate a subtle self-loathing and often adopt violent proclivities against each other. They shoot each other rather than focus their anger at their real oppressor. Can we agree or disagree or have a debate whether these individuals are "victims" or "enablers" of their own condition? Absolutely. But it's almost impossible to ignore the self-loathing ramifications that the social order fosters in their subconscious.

I see a lot of self-loathing from us "aware" Americans. Again, not an excuse.... just an observation.

Violet
28th March 2014, 12:14
I can only speak for Belgium and the Netherlands and there was much positive attention for the president's visit.

In the Netherlands he went out and had a short handshaking and small-talk with the locals and some youngsters waiting outside. Apparently they had an Obama fanclub, and later on these youngsters were invited on television too. It's not clear why he did not meet the fans waiting outside in Belgium, they were disappointed about that.

In Belgium people were so enthusiast about just picking up a glimpse of the Beast, that it struck me how unheartily (in some regions even hatefully) our own king is received when it is announced he's passing by. (Almost) nobody - but 50+ loyalists - goes out when the king visits.

That press-conference you included, I don't know...There was another one like it where I remember somebody was almost going to clap but didn't. Have you considered that there might have been a protocol applicable?

All-in-all, I don't agree with the impression that nobody cared. It's what I thought was going to happen because of the constant criticism against American politics, but then the president appeared and it seemed all forgotten.

sigma6
28th March 2014, 12:19
You could hide all the dirt that is coming out on Obama, the joke is on us... The vote was fixed, it was clear to a moron, that Ron Paul was getting the majority of votes.

More dirt, Obama, was coached by an actor... Makes you wonder, who are his handlers?
-mITcRDr2Sk

Ahnung-quay
28th March 2014, 12:53
Obama=narcissist. Narcissists are pathological liars, set up aliases and have compartmentalized, separate lives. Many of their relationships are based on a con game. The somatic ones use sex to gain power. As they age and lose their physical attributes, they also lose their ability to pull the wool over other's eyes. They use people up with their behavior patterns. They usually end up alone.
Obama=blackmailed homosexual? (Blackmail for sexual deviance is rampant in our political world).
Obama=Manchurian Candidate? (He did have a healing incision on his head at one time).

jackovesk
28th March 2014, 13:31
@ t smith: "But don't misunderstand me. This is not for a lack of intelligence, character, or because of an non-dynamic population. I believe Americans are perhaps among the more intelligent and dynamic--even among the more moral--humans on the planet. No, this is a deliberate attack on the the so-called "free world" and a deliberately thought-out and induced condition."

I humbly disagree. Americans are the dumbest, laziest, most violent, most easily manipulated population on the planet. They may be the victims of a massive and highly professional brainwashing campaign but that is no excuse for the pathetic zombie enablers they have become. They have no intelligence of money and where it comes from. They have no knowledge of history or current events. They care more about sports than the environment that sustains them. They have no common sense whatsoever. And their politicians, corporations and media keep beating them down and abusing them and they do NOTHING in return. They allow their illegal and illegitimate government to destroy nations and murder millions of innocent human beings all over the world in their name.
Sorry, sometimes the truth hurts and until we can be honest about what we have become, I'm afraid the world will get more of the same. Please stop sugar-coating the American s**tpile.

I have felt in my gut for years that, should we not clean our own house, eventually the rest of the world will rise and join together to put an end to our destructive empire. I'm sorry to believe this but it appears to be playing out.

Matt

I agree with all these statements. I have felt this same disgust. These are often my same sentiments when I get into "rant mode." So I can't say I'm offended in any way.

However, my comments were not trying to sugar coat or condone anything you have laid out. What I see here is a highly diabolical social order, specifically targeted at and foisted upon the American population for reasons I speculate in my post. Human beings anywhere in the world, subject to the same conditions, would respond in kind, and perhaps in ways even less flattering. But that doesn't mean to suggest I am providing an excuse for the way we Americans have responded.

In the most impoverished inner cities, where very subtle oppression from the outside culture is the greatest, individuals subconsciously inculcate a subtle self-loathing and often adopt violent proclivities against each other. They shoot each other rather than focus their anger at their real oppressor. Can we agree or disagree or have a debate whether these individuals are "victims" or "enablers" of their own condition? Absolutely. But it's almost impossible to ignore the self-loathing ramifications that the social order fosters in their subconscious.

I see a lot of self-loathing from us "aware" Americans. Again, not an excuse.... just an observation.

.................................


I see a lot of self-loathing from us "aware" Americans. Again, not an excuse.... just an observation.

I really don't see a problem with this...:nono:

jackovesk
28th March 2014, 14:01
Celente Bombshell Exclusive: Revolution And Taking Back America

Mar 28, 2014


This is an interview between Trends Forecaster Gerald Celente and myself with my partner Susan Duclos. Gerald is in rare form in this interview and the last 6 minutes are can't miss, classic Celente as he rips apart the criminals in Washington DC as only he can.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RdGSzo0jgY&feature=player_embedded

araucaria
28th March 2014, 15:01
That press-conference you included, I don't know...There was another one like it where I remember somebody was almost going to clap but didn't. Have you considered that there might have been a protocol applicable?

I agree: a press conference is for professionals doing a job of work. They are not particularly supposed to clap or otherwise show their feelings. The one exception being that guy who threw a shoe at Bush. I don't think you can read anything into this.

G.Deluca
28th March 2014, 15:34
too bad we are not "awake" to our own fraud anyway,i still see people thinking our new prime minister (the third non-elected) is working for us :D

jackovesk
28th March 2014, 15:44
That press-conference you included, I don't know...There was another one like it where I remember somebody was almost going to clap but didn't. Have you considered that there might have been a protocol applicable?

I agree: a press conference is for professionals doing a job of work. They are not particularly supposed to clap or otherwise show their feelings. The one exception being that guy who threw a shoe at Bush. I don't think you can read anything into this.

I here what your saying & you may well be right...:noidea:

However it doesn't matter in the scheme things, its (Still) negative publicity towards the (Felon) Obama, not to mention the (615,139) views the Youtube clip has had so far with 99% giving it the :thumb:'s up...:)

araucaria
28th March 2014, 16:27
That press-conference you included, I don't know...There was another one like it where I remember somebody was almost going to clap but didn't. Have you considered that there might have been a protocol applicable?

I agree: a press conference is for professionals doing a job of work. They are not particularly supposed to clap or otherwise show their feelings. The one exception being that guy who threw a shoe at Bush. I don't think you can read anything into this.

I here what your saying & you may well be right...:noidea:

However it doesn't matter in the scheme things, its (Still) negative publicity towards the (Felon) Obama, not to mention the (615,139) views the Youtube clip has had so far with 99% giving it the :thumb:'s up...:)
It doesn't? Doesn't it mean either that Europe is not as awake as you suggest, or that Europe is not awake to the picture as you draw it?

You see, I have another problem - with Mia Maria Pope. Her picture of Barry Soetoro is very different from the one painted by Andrew Basiago, who was with him on the Jump Room to Mars program. You may want to debunk Basiago, but he has six hours of testimony that seems pretty coherent to me. He says Barry is a pretty smart guy, even though he doesn't agree with what his administration is doing.

MorningFox
28th March 2014, 16:33
It's funny but to be fair it's a room full of press only. They're not there to support or not support, they're there to cover it. No need for anyone to clap.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

It astounds me that people still think 'the vote was fixed'. It's very apparent that the vote probably isn't fixed, regardless of who wins the cabal still call the shots. For all we know Obama had all the best intentions as President but the second he got into power he was probably taken into a room and told that he now belongs to them, and if he even thinks of doing anything other than what they tell him to do... they'll kill his wife and children. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Froddo
28th March 2014, 20:14
I think this post of Enrique Dans, (a well known Spanish University Profesor and blogger), summarizes quite well the growing perception Europeans have on the Obama Aministration...


These Romans are crazy!
Enrique Dans

- source:
https://medium.com/enrique-dans/a649d075c20f


The US government’s response to the Snowden case has made one thing abundantly clear: Washington’s fear of a change in the way that the world judges the way it behaves.

At this point we can stop talking about technology and move on to much more serious issues; to genuinely hair-raising matters. Please read and reflect on this terrifying article by Arianna Huffington, ‘Signature strikes and the President’s empty rhetoric on drones’ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/signature-strikes-and-the_b_3575351.html), which outlines US policy in a growing number of countries: computer directed missiles sent from unmanned aircraft aimed at any group of people suspected of any activity that might be considered suspicious, whether that is a neighborhood meeting (jirga) that might appear to be subversive, or an informal sporting competition (“three guys doing jumping jacks”) that might appear to be a training camp.

This isn’t about anti-Americanism: Arianna Huffington cannot be accused of that, at worst she is guilty of the pragmatism of those who, although not born in the United States, have lived and made a success of their lives there. My case is similar: I could never be accused of being anti-American, rather, the opposite. I have tended to think that anti-Americanism is largely an invention of Americans themselves: after living for several years there teaching North American students, I was able on several occasions to establish to what extent the US media suffered from a hostility complex that in all sincerity is rarely to be found in Spain, and among those who do feel that way, limit themselves to expressing their fears among friends, and usually with a significant dose of irony.

Unsurprisingly, in Pakistan, where it is possible to come across an “uninvited missile” at any social event, people tend to think otherwise, and the number of people who see the United States in favorable terms has fallen from 19% during the second mandate of George W. Bush to 12% in 2012.

Defending our societies against terrorism is simply an excuse: when it isn’t terrorism, it is intellectual property or child pornography. At the end of the day, we are talking about preserving US domination over a range of international activities. Edward Snowden’s revelations have made US attitudes all too clear the reality of Pax Americana: a peace that is nothing of the sort, and that accumulates dead bodies in the same way that children collect bubble gum cards, based on the permanent eavesdropping not only of the general public, but also of anybody that uses any service or product provided by a US company, embassy, company, government office, or decision-making center. The National Security Administration (NSA) is out of control, and with a mission to: process all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Internet searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails — parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital ‘pocket litter’”

A US president elected thanks to his ability to analyze data is now dedicated to using the same weapons to pursue his foreign and security policy. The difference between living in Pakistan or Yemen and any country in the EU is the extent to which one is watched and the actions taken in pursuit of that goal: there is little internet activity in Yemen or Pakistan; what is under surveillance are gatherings, behavior patterns, and indications that would lead the other side to believe that you are engaged in some kind of terrorist activity.

The fact that Pakistan or Yemen are sovereign states, that they have their own democratically elected governments, is irrelevant: they are countries to which at any moment we can send drones, missiles, or whatever is needed, countries where we can do whatever we think appropriate, without submitting ourselves to any higher authority, on the basis of our interpretation of some kind of suspicious behavior. A military “expert” interprets some kind of suspicious behavior and the suspicion is eliminated immediately, eliminating in the process the lives of dozens of men, women, and children. For the moment, we can safely assume that our governments will not be sending missiles anywhere. But we now know that without any kind of warning, your movements, conversations, emails, search histories, updates, etc, are being monitored. Equally, you can be stopped upon entry into the United States on the basis of our activities. The outcome may be different, but the modus operandi is the same.

Edward Snowden’s revelations are giving the world new insight into the reality of Pax Americana, and showing us, as the Asterix comics used to, that “these Romans are crazy.” The next question surely is, following Monty Python’s “Life of Brian”: what have the Americans ever done for us?

Rocky_Shorz
28th March 2014, 21:10
That press-conference you included, I don't know...There was another one like it where I remember somebody was almost going to clap but didn't. Have you considered that there might have been a protocol applicable?

I agree: a press conference is for professionals doing a job of work. They are not particularly supposed to clap or otherwise show their feelings. The one exception being that guy who threw a shoe at Bush. I don't think you can read anything into this.

take a look at the crowd...

they didn't clap because they were too busy taking pictures of the first black man to ever visit the village...

jackovesk
29th March 2014, 00:23
That press-conference you included, I don't know...There was another one like it where I remember somebody was almost going to clap but didn't. Have you considered that there might have been a protocol applicable?

I agree: a press conference is for professionals doing a job of work. They are not particularly supposed to clap or otherwise show their feelings. The one exception being that guy who threw a shoe at Bush. I don't think you can read anything into this.

I here what your saying & you may well be right...:noidea:

However it doesn't matter in the scheme things, its (Still) negative publicity towards the (Felon) Obama, not to mention the (615,139) views the Youtube clip has had so far with 99% giving it the :thumb:'s up...:)
It doesn't? Doesn't it mean either that Europe is not as awake as you suggest, or that Europe is not awake to the picture as you draw it?

You see, I have another problem - with Mia Maria Pope. Her picture of Barry Soetoro is very different from the one painted by Andrew Basiago, who was with him on the Jump Room to Mars program. You may want to debunk Basiago, but he has six hours of testimony that seems pretty coherent to me. He says Barry is a pretty smart guy, even though he doesn't agree with what his administration is doing.

4 Words

Remember the Big Picture...:yes4:

Obama is a (Fraud) and a (Felon)...!


You can debate all you like on whatever tickles your fancy...:noidea:

Remember the Big Picture...:yes4:

Obama is a (Fraud) and a (Felon)...!

He has (NO) business or legitimacy as the POTUS...:nono:

Rocky_Shorz
29th March 2014, 00:46
Joe's a Crock of donkey dung...

if he is just sending out more spins trying to introduce it through friends so the congressmen will look, wake up... The Birther conspiracy was launched by a democratic news channel...

hook, line and sinker... woo hooo...

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/DNFTT2.jpg

Fox news for adults is republican, and their political cartoons like Simpson, family guy and others target the children with the opposite side...

is Fox trying to destroy GOteaParty families through their news programming? :spy:

Obama Conspiracies for dummies... (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/)

Edited to add: oops I had both threads open and put this in the wrong one...

ceetee9
29th March 2014, 00:58
Black is white, up is down, and truth is lie. This appears to be the world we have chosen to adopt.

jackovesk
29th March 2014, 01:38
Joe's a Crock of donkey dung...

if he is just sending out more spins trying to introduce it through friends so the congressmen will look, wake up... The Birther conspiracy was launched by a democratic news channel...

hook, line and sinker... woo hooo...

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/DNFTT2.jpg

Fox news for adults is republican, and their political cartoons like Simpson, family guy and others target the children with the opposite side...

is Fox trying to destroy GOteaParty families through their news programming? :spy:

Obama Conspiracies for dummies... (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/)

Edited to add: oops I had both threads open and put this in the wrong one...


Joe's a Crock of donkey dung

Question for you Rocky?

Are you feeling Ok Rocky, is everything alright with you and have you remembered to take your pills today...:pound:

Rocky_Shorz
29th March 2014, 06:45
the influence of the mind control fox is using is affecting so many people, when I saw the old head of the US propaganda and mind control program is now working for fox News, we finally had a face that had always stayed hidden...

Peace by Peace I'm going to keep chipping away until people forget why they were mad at their friends...

your stories have led me to so many of the pieces Jack, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't read all your threads if I wasn't having fun and enjoying them...


Your stories are higher rated than hillbilly porn in the bible belt... ;)

jackovesk
29th March 2014, 06:53
the influence of the mind control fox is using is affecting so many people, when I saw the old head of the US propaganda and mind control program is now working for fox News, we finally had a face that had always stayed hidden...

Peace by Peace I'm going to keep chipping away until people forget why they were mad at their friends...

your stories have led me to so many of the pieces Jack, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't read all your threads if I wasn't having fun and enjoying them...


Your stories are higher rated than hillbilly porn in the bible belt... ;)

Your getting into some really bad habits of late Rocky...:faint:

You post something and (Forgeting) to tell others WTF your on about...:nono:

Do you continually do this just to piss people off or is it to quell some kind of bent subconscious manifestation that you can't quite put your finger on...:confused:

Rocky_Shorz
29th March 2014, 07:36
sorry I don't speak Aussie very well...

I'll work on it...

I'm working my way in to the group who is dividing America for a Civil war...

one by one I'm learning the players

sorry dude can't find my Roo dictionary, I'll work on it tomorrow...

araucaria
29th March 2014, 08:19
4 Words

Remember the Big Picture...:yes4:

Obama is a (Fraud) and a (Felon)...!


You can debate all you like on whatever tickles your fancy...:noidea:

Remember the Big Picture...:yes4:

Obama is a (Fraud) and a (Felon)...!

He has (NO) business or legitimacy as the POTUS...:nono:
Sorry mate, you can’t count: that’s eleven words, and if you include repeats, it’s thirty-one.

Your ‘big picture’ to me is a small (possibly photoshopped) thumbnail. And turning it into a slogan doesn’t make it any bigger. It just means you’re trying to convince someone (not me).


:)

jackovesk
29th March 2014, 11:27
4 Words

Remember the Big Picture...

Obama is a (Fraud) and a (Felon)...!


You can debate all you like on whatever tickles your fancy...:noidea:

Remember the Big Picture...

Obama is a (Fraud) and a (Felon)...!

He has (NO) business or legitimacy as the POTUS...:nono:
Sorry mate, you can’t count: that’s eleven words, and if you include repeats, it’s thirty-one.

Your ‘big picture’ to me is a small (possibly photoshopped) thumbnail. And turning it into a slogan doesn’t make it any bigger. It just means you’re trying to convince someone (not me).

:)

The world just loves a smartarse, don't they araucaria...:nono:

I'm not out to convince anyone, let alone you...:nono:

I'm simply (Telling the Truth As I Know) as I've always done here at Avalon...:yes4:

As far as I'm concerned the (Facts) & (Witness Testimony) speak for themselves, history will decide the rest...:yes4:

So what you or I think will have no real bearing on the outcome anyway...:noidea:

PS - As for Slogans..?

Obama is a ((SLOGAN))...!!! :usa2:

araucaria
29th March 2014, 12:38
A nice word for everyone today I see. For a sledger you are pretty sensitive to a little teasing, Jacko.

A little discussion never got in the way of speaking one's truth. You could have some little bearing on outcomes. But please yourself. Over and out.

STR
29th March 2014, 13:01
First of all the elections are real. You actually do get to pick between which of the two idiots presented and let the PTB know which you want to go with. They could care either way as they have both in their pocket or they would not be presented for you for the show period end of story! In this regard it is a selection process for the candidates you see? The candidate selection is the fix you bunch of asleep people! My god can't you see the writing on the wall here? These men don't just rise up from nowhere they are groomed from an early age. Obama was groomed for years. Clinton was groomed for years, a Clinton is being groomed right now at spa and has been to spa for some time in prep for the next run and its all for the show. They are already among the selected you then get to vote for. All fixed, all bought, all on the take and nothing gets fixed gee?

T Smith
29th March 2014, 14:15
He has (NO) business or legitimacy as the POTUS...:nono:

It depends what that business is, or how one defines the legitimacy of the POTUS.

When you look at this from the real paradigm, and not from the expectations we deluded masses are under, i.e. that the "business" of POTUS is to advance the interests of the people as a duly elected official executing the will of the people per the guidelines set forth in Constitution of the United States of America (which is a paradigm of pure fantasy), he is perhaps doing an exemplary job.

I often tell people who rant and rave about what a horrible job Obama is doing that he is probably doing the job he was selected for pretty damn well. When one looks the dynamic of the Big Picture for what it is (which is my view is the first step to changing the paradigm), we no longer even need to demonstrate our current POTUS is a (Fraud) and (Felon). These are the givens.

Jake
29th March 2014, 14:25
First of all the elections are real. You actually do get to pick between which of the two idiots presented and let the PTB know which you want to go with. They could care either way as they have both in their pocket or they would not be presented for you for the show period end of story! In this regard it is a selection process for the candidates you see? The candidate selection is the fix you bunch of asleep people! My god can't you see the writing on the wall here? These men don't just rise up from nowhere they are groomed from an early age. Obama was groomed for years. Clinton was groomed for years, a Clinton is being groomed right now at spa and has been to spa for some time in prep for the next run and its all for the show. They are already among the selected you then get to vote for. All fixed, all bought, all on the take and nothing gets fixed gee?

The elections are real??? Everything is fixed, and bought,, presidents are chosen decades in advance,, multiple BS platforms DESIGNED to divide people/families/friends,,, all for the show!!! We are presented with a loselose base for which to watch globalists dismantle our country....

In what universe are these elections considered REAL???

If I go to a restaurant and they serve two dishes,, (no menu) just a warm plate of doggy doodoo,,, or a warm plate of kitty doodoo... I would get up and walk out of there and never return... I wouldn't just assume that they are serving the only food in town.

Sorry for the ugly comparison,...

Which one of you voted for Obamacare?? How many voted for the NSA,, or the Patriot Act?? How many voted to go to war in Afganistan,, Syria, Turkey,,, ???? Nobody,,,, not a single person except several hundred congressmen or senators... (who are controlled,, btw) These things are planned out ahead, and put into place NO MATTER WHO WE VOTE FOR!!!

And every single vote is being used to justify the atrocities that are being brought to the rest of the world by the hands of AMERICANS!!!

Most Americans are in Denial... it is that simple... imho... Just look at how many ARRESTS were made this last week of folks who were VOTED INTO OFFICE!!!! Criminals literally,,,, CRIMINALS!!!

This country stands on the shoulders of one of the biggest genocide episodes in world history!!! Do you think the radical government that justified it is any different today?? Because the policies of 'relocation and internment' are alive and well today!!! Build the camps,,, take the guns,,, destroy the people and relocate them to camps.... Every American Indian knows this tune very well!!! It has left a deep psychological stain in the minds of American people that keeps them in the dark and intimidated when it comes to talking about it... Much less, come together as a nation and put an end to it...


My god can't you see the writing on the wall here?

It was carved into my soul,, many lifetimes ago!!! (there were no such things as elections back then!!) :)

Once again,, you challenge me, STR,,, Thank you.
Jake.

T Smith
29th March 2014, 14:46
First of all the elections are real. You actually do get to pick between which of the two idiots presented and let the PTB know which you want to go with. They could care either way as they have both in their pocket or they would not be presented for you for the show period end of story! In this regard it is a selection process for the candidates you see? The candidate selection is the fix you bunch of asleep people! My god can't you see the writing on the wall here? These men don't just rise up from nowhere they are groomed from an early age. Obama was groomed for years. Clinton was groomed for years, a Clinton is being groomed right now at spa and has been to spa for some time in prep for the next run and its all for the show. They are already among the selected you then get to vote for. All fixed, all bought, all on the take and nothing gets fixed gee?

The dynamic you describe indicates to me that the election process is entirely not real. You have described a highly orchestrated political theater production that the vast majority of masses mistake for a real democratic process.

There are also many trump cards the orchestrators of this production can play just in case any of the actors on stage forget they are just actors, or just in case they mistake any of the props for real objects, or in case the people in the audience start to spontaneously embrace a truly democratic process in spite of themselves.

But the Ace of Spades, in the event we plebs get too unruly and demand genuine representation, is Black Box Voting. How often do you need to play your highest trump card, however, when you already have a winning hand?

I'm sorry to say the election process is completely ceremonial and in no way resembles anything close to a genuine democratic process.

michaelv
31st March 2014, 10:40
Both Barack and Michelle Obama have a “flag problem” that has followed them around the entire time they have been campaigning for and serving in the White House. You will remember back in 2008 when Barack Obama adamantly refused to wear the American flag pin on his lapel like every other candidate.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/barack-obama-refused-to-salute-american-flag.jpg

It was in this environment that Michelle Obama grasped a Communist Red Chinese flag in both hands, and got to jumpin’ and shoutin’ the likes of which she has never displayed for things American. There is no known image that exists of her doing the same thing with the American flag.

Michelle Obama has famously said that ”For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.” Imagine the only time being proud of America is when you get access to limitless taxpayer funds to fuel your lavish lifestyle.

America, both Barack and Michelle Obama continue to tell you who they are…will you ever believe them?

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/michelle-obama-waves-communist-flag-china.jpg

A search on Google could not find one, single photo of Michelle Obama waving an American flag, much less two of them.


Original Source Here (http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=17884)

GuyFox
31st March 2014, 11:32
Cheap shot?

A big problem in the USA is the brain-dead patriotic noises emitted by politicians, while they are busy selling out the country.

When they talk about "American Exceptionalism", I cringe

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Those who truly Love the Country, and want a bright future, see a need for profound change

panopticon
31st March 2014, 12:56
rsL6mKxtOlQ

AngelArmy
31st March 2014, 14:21
Both Barack and Michelle Obama have a “flag problem” that has followed them around the entire time they have been campaigning for and serving in the White House. You will remember back in 2008 when Barack Obama adamantly refused to wear the American flag pin on his lapel like every other candidate.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/barack-obama-refused-to-salute-american-flag.jpg

It was in this environment that Michelle Obama grasped a Communist Red Chinese flag in both hands, and got to jumpin’ and shoutin’ the likes of which she has never displayed for things American. There is no known image that exists of her doing the same thing with the American flag.

Michelle Obama has famously said that ”For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.” Imagine the only time being proud of America is when you get access to limitless taxpayer funds to fuel your lavish lifestyle.

America, both Barack and Michelle Obama continue to tell you who they are…will you ever believe them?

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/michelle-obama-waves-communist-flag-china.jpg

A search on Google could not find one, single photo of Michelle Obama waving an American flag, much less two of them.


Original Source Here (http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=17884)

I think we all got it wrong..... here is your antichrist!

Ahnung-quay
31st March 2014, 14:51
Our original flag was supposedly taken from the East India Company flag, a company owned by the bankers and the Crown of England. The East India Company flag had thirteen red and white horizontal stripes and a blue rectangle in the upper left hand corner.
It's been no secret that Barry and Michelle have communistic leanings. The fact is that the politics and ideologies of any group, anywhere in the world are corporately owned. The mask that is worn, when removed, reveals the same countenance underneath. Even the word countenance has the word count (as in worth) in it.

DarMar
31st March 2014, 14:53
Hi michaelv,

if i may say this sound very funny to me "Of Red Chinese Communism"
sounds like propaganda movie from 60's

maybe it got more my attention is what is bad beign red, chinese or communist?
even more funny is .. which part of RED color is not part of AMERICAN flag?

yeah but chinese have a star.. oh wait... ups..

on end i feel somehow grateful that title was not: "black people plan to take over country with communism masking as presidents"

jagman
31st March 2014, 18:13
Darmar
i feel somehow grateful that title was not: "black people plan to take over country with communism masking as presidents"

The Ops original post had nothing to do with color of skin Darmar. I find your post rather insulting
and bordering on Race Baiting.Try to clean it up Darmar. If you disagree with the ops post just
say your peace,No need to bring up race.

GlassSteagallfan
31st March 2014, 18:37
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/michelle-obama-waves-communist-flag-china.jpg




Who is this guy really?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVAXqKugXkg

DarMar
31st March 2014, 19:09
The Ops original post had nothing to do with color of skin Darmar. I find your post rather insulting
and bordering on Race Baiting.Try to clean it up Darmar. If you disagree with the ops post just
say your peace,No need to bring up race.

Thank you Jagman for noticing this implication, i agree that it is offending but NO 1 inch less than title IS offendig too..

This title is nothing else than implication that there is something bad in beign cihinese, being communist and of waving with red.
They are on based on exclusion and empty assumptions to make title have more sense when trying to incorporate thought in everyday mind.

i have pretty enough evidence right on this page that angel democracy is devil same as communist one.. so we can basically swipe title and
kick people in their head.

Reason of my post was Respect towards Chinese members here WHICH DO NOT DESERVE BE LABELED THIS WAY.

Agenda is not racial phenomenom and if it is even then there are 50-50 .. it is called individualism m8!

PERIOD.

michaelv
31st March 2014, 19:20
Hi DarMar, the post was not meant to offend anyone,i am sorry if it has offended you?it was not my intention to offend anyone.I just copied the title from the original source, i did place a link at the bottom of my post,which if you click you can see for yourself?

AutumnW
31st March 2014, 19:39
The whole Obama Communist meme seems so strange to me. If Obama and Michele create collective farms for bankers and the wealthy elite, they can be called Communist.

When Jamie Dimon shows up at congressional hearings, after a hard week hoeing the fields, we can all worry abou 'Commie'-nism.

In other words, get a fix on hoeing and the spelling as a an indicator. Bankers hoeing would be an indicator of communism. The Obamas ho'ing FOR the bankers is an entirely different spelling and political spectrum indicator.

Rocky_Shorz
31st March 2014, 19:45
The Ops original post had nothing to do with color of skin Darmar. I find your post rather insulting
and bordering on Race Baiting.Try to clean it up Darmar. If you disagree with the ops post just
say your peace,No need to bring up race.

Thank you Jagman for noticing this implication, i agree that it is offending but NO 1 inch less than title IS offendig too..

This title is nothing else than implication that there is something bad in beign cihinese, being communist and of waving with red.
They are on based on exclusion and empty assumptions to make title have more sense when trying to incorporate thought in everyday mind.

i have pretty enough evidence right on this page that angel democracy is devil same as communist one.. so we can basically swipe title and
kick people in their head.

Reason of my post was Respect towards Chinese members here WHICH DO NOT DESERVE BE LABELED THIS WAY.

Agenda is not racial phenomenom and if it is even then there are 50-50 .. it is called individualism m8!

PERIOD.

you can't take any of the spew flowing from Tea Party zombies seriously, they are part of a Government propoganda mind control experiment, the good news is, it isn't contagious...

they have no clue how politically incorrect almost everything they write is...

the leaders of the tea party started their financial empire with funding from Russia...

so having them pass down stories like this to the spinners is rather ironic...

no offense Jagman and michael, I'm sure you were just sharing this story to expose more of their complete nonsense just like the rest of the Avalon members do...

DarMar
31st March 2014, 19:53
Hi DarMar, the post was not meant to offend anyone

Hey im not offended at all, it just sometimes makes me sad that people fail to see obvious... hell, even human rights fighter missed it ;)

jagman
31st March 2014, 20:07
The Ops original post had nothing to do with color of skin Darmar. I find your post rather insulting
and bordering on Race Baiting.Try to clean it up Darmar. If you disagree with the ops post just
say your peace,No need to bring up race.

Thank you Jagman for noticing this implication, i agree that it is offending but NO 1 inch less than title IS offendig too..

This title is nothing else than implication that there is something bad in beign cihinese, being communist and of waving with red.
They are on based on exclusion and empty assumptions to make title have more sense when trying to incorporate thought in everyday mind.

i have pretty enough evidence right on this page that angel democracy is devil same as communist one.. so we can basically swipe title and
kick people in their head.

Reason of my post was Respect towards Chinese members here WHICH DO NOT DESERVE BE LABELED THIS WAY.

Agenda is not racial phenomenom and if it is even then there are 50-50 .. it is called individualism m8!

PERIOD.

So you took the OPs title has a racial slight at the Chinese and then delivered
a slight of your own at the Op. Sounds a little childish to me but whatever
floats your boat. I really don't think the OP is anti-Chinese maybe
anti-communist but I will let the Op speak for themself.

What I really took away from this thread and others like it is?
Michelle Obama really is more in favor of communism and
socialism but that's another thread all in it's self.

AutumnW
31st March 2014, 20:09
You know what's interesting about China?? They can no longer be called Communist either. There are 12 ruling cliques in that country, who grabbed the steering wheel, forcing a sharp turn to the right, into fascism. They bypassed democracy altogether.

The same processes are underway in the U.S. Europe and they defined the pillaging thugocracy of the Yeltsin government in Russia, after Gorbachev. It seems like Putin is trying to restore some kind of balance, in his own country. We should all hope for reasons of geo- political stability, that he is successful.

Rocky_Shorz
31st March 2014, 20:17
The Ops original post had nothing to do with color of skin Darmar. I find your post rather insulting
and bordering on Race Baiting.Try to clean it up Darmar. If you disagree with the ops post just
say your peace,No need to bring up race.

Thank you Jagman for noticing this implication, i agree that it is offending but NO 1 inch less than title IS offendig too..

This title is nothing else than implication that there is something bad in beign cihinese, being communist and of waving with red.
They are on based on exclusion and empty assumptions to make title have more sense when trying to incorporate thought in everyday mind.

i have pretty enough evidence right on this page that angel democracy is devil same as communist one.. so we can basically swipe title and
kick people in their head.

Reason of my post was Respect towards Chinese members here WHICH DO NOT DESERVE BE LABELED THIS WAY.

Agenda is not racial phenomenom and if it is even then there are 50-50 .. it is called individualism m8!

PERIOD.

So you took the OPs title has a racial slight at the Chinese and then delivered
a slight of your own at the Op. Sounds a little childish to me but whatever
floats your boat. I really don't think the OP is anti-Chinese maybe
anti-communist but I will let the Op speak for themself.

What I really took away from this thread and others like it is?
Michelle Obama really is more in favor of communism and
socialism but that's another thread all in it's self.

the way a first world country is rated, isn't by how much the rich have accumulated, it is how well the poor are taken care of.

why was the tea party created to fight for the rich under the cloak of patriotism, at the same time destroying the Republican party?

this plot goes far deeper than most understand...

Milneman
31st March 2014, 20:25
Rocky?

It also makes me wonder just what other ways we can waste electrical power on our computers, bandwidth in sending posts, uploading/creating videos and photographs, and oh....this is the big one. Why are we supporting an industry (yes kids, THIS is an industry in case you were wondering) who's single greatest product is fear and locking the mind into unconstructive thought?

Here's a hint. The people at the top are just as guilty as the people "under" and "over" them. Yup. Don't think pyramid. Think...corral. There is no communism, socialism, democracy will only really live and breathe again when you hear words like "plebiscite" with more frequency and members of parliaments and houses of government don't read from prepared speeches but have the actual intelligence to form an opinion similar to the ideals of the party they represent, which in turn is consistent with the ideals of the public they represent.

We passively allow this to occur because the benefits we reap from those we choose to lead us are the payment we receive for endorsing their dictatorship. We're all guilty.

Say hello to the dictatorship of the proletariat. No revolution now kids, now we get ready for the classless society. This is what you wanted isn't it?

Interesting how that classless society looks now that we're closing in on it.

(wow what a downer of a post....ok how about something to bring it up a notch?)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4

Rocky_Shorz
31st March 2014, 20:37
a bankerless society will still have class, as the giant too big to fail banks crumble, we can renovate the buildings and turn them into indoor farms...

I don't see the huge changes others are afraid of by shutting down the Fed and allowing the treasury to take over creating and distributing a new currency

instead of giving a billion dollar bonus to a banker, the same amount would put a free energy device in a million Senior citizen's homes so they create an income, which lowers Social security costs.

push aside the bankers who control the world, and let us have a try at cleaning up this mess before it's too late...

Tesla_WTC_Solution
31st March 2014, 21:42
LOL

http://nuclearnuttery.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/bwr.png?w=908

jagman
31st March 2014, 23:13
The Evil Tea Party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTHeThbKL44&feature=player_detailpage

ThePythonicCow
31st March 2014, 23:31
Our original flag was supposedly taken from the East India Company flag, a company owned by the bankers and the Crown of England. The East India Company flag had thirteen red and white horizontal stripes and a blue rectangle in the upper left hand corner.
Well I'll be danged. Indeed this flag, that of the East India Company sometime prior to 1800 (according to here (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/read/120981)), does look familiar:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix4/British_East_India_Company__1801_.jpg

GuyFox
31st March 2014, 23:52
(here's the present reality in Communist Red China):

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-31/former-chinese-president-asks-current-one-curb-crackdown-criminals-and-corruption

Former Chinese President Asks Current One To Curb Crackdown On Criminals And Corruption

Mr Jiang sent a message saying “the footprint of this anti-corruption campaign cannot get too big” in a warning to Mr Xi not to take on too many of the powerful families or patronage networks at the top of the party hierarchy
== ==

Wouldn't you like to see an overly-aggressive crackdown on corruption in Washington and Wall Street ?

Rocky_Shorz
31st March 2014, 23:59
off topic, but has everyone seen the new Australia collectors coin?

Kind of fitting, the Queen is the front and behind a swarm of sharks...

http://www.images-apmex.com/handlers/ThumbJpeg.ashx?VFilePath=~/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/81351_Obv.jpg&width=75&height=75
http://www.images-apmex.com/handlers/ThumbJpeg.ashx?VFilePath=~/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/81351_Slab.jpg&width=75&height=75

ghostrider
1st April 2014, 03:43
I remember her saying for the first time in her life she is proud of her country , how neat , now that your hubby is in charge , it's a great country , until then she wasn't proud ... she sure looks proud to wave the communist flag , all this for a dam flag ...

NancyV
1st April 2014, 04:53
The Evil Tea Party
Uhoh, now I'm scared! I didn't realize the Tea Party had so many normal looking people who are really evil !!!

Does your mother know that you have now let the world know that she is a member of this evil cult??

PS: please thank your mother for me. She definitely has a lot of good sense. If I were a joiner I would probably join the tea party.

PPS: I'm really just saying all this so Rocky can know what an evil person I am because I generally like the Tea Party or perhaps he will say how ignorant I am that I don't know about their nefarious and secret agendas! Do I look like I give a you know what? :p

panopticon
1st April 2014, 06:58
off topic, but has everyone seen the new Australia collectors coin?

Kind of fitting, the Queen is the front and behind a swarm of sharks...

http://www.images-apmex.com/handlers/ThumbJpeg.ashx?VFilePath=~/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/81351_Obv.jpg&width=75&height=75
http://www.images-apmex.com/handlers/ThumbJpeg.ashx?VFilePath=~/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/81351_Slab.jpg&width=75&height=75

What does it say that the new Shark Culling policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Australian_shark_cull) has been introduced in WA...

-- Pan

jagman
1st April 2014, 07:06
The Evil Tea Party
Uhoh, now I'm scared! I didn't realize the Tea Party had so many normal looking people who are really evil !!!

Does your mother know that you have now let the world know that she is a member of this evil cult??

PS: please thank your mother for me. She definitely has a lot of good sense. If I were a joiner I would probably join the tea party.

PPS: I'm really just saying all this so Rocky can know what an evil person I am because I generally like the Tea Party or perhaps he will say how ignorant I am that I don't know about their nefarious and secret agendas! Do I look like I give a you know what? :p

My mum says thank you NancyV.

Sebastion
1st April 2014, 14:29
I'm signing up with you NancyV!!!! We can start our own political party called IDGAS!!!




The Evil Tea Party
Uhoh, now I'm scared! I didn't realize the Tea Party had so many normal looking people who are really evil !!!

Does your mother know that you have now let the world know that she is a member of this evil cult??

PS: please thank your mother for me. She definitely has a lot of good sense. If I were a joiner I would probably join the tea party.

PPS: I'm really just saying all this so Rocky can know what an evil person I am because I generally like the Tea Party or perhaps he will say how ignorant I am that I don't know about their nefarious and secret agendas! Do I look like I give a you know what? :p

GuyFox
1st April 2014, 16:02
Obama declares himself Dictator-for-Life : BREAKING NEWS

http://edition.cnn.com/video/politics/2010/08/31/sot.obama.iraq.speech.full.cnn.576x324.jpg

In his best speech in years, President Obama resigned, and declared himself Dictator-for-Life of the U.S.A.

He claimed that this change was necessary in order to complete his mission, and install Obamacare, and other vital programs.

He said that he had warned those in Congress repeatedly that he would not stand for continuing deadlocks in legislation, and after careful consideration, and discussion with "people representing the people" this was the inevitable result.

He had planned to wait until the 4th of July to make the declaration, but was concerned that impeachment legislation might be rushed through before that important date in American history. "Henceforth," he said, "April will be known for something besides taxes."

778 neighbour of some guy
1st April 2014, 16:05
April fools:bounce::bs:

Hervé
1st April 2014, 16:08
Unfortunately, it might be the only prediction/joke that may come true...

GuyFox
1st April 2014, 16:13
(No. Really. This happened)

Obama had an identical speech delivered in Europe, by a body double:

mVFrdWIs2LI

It was met with a thunderous response... from crickets

Hillary Clinton was the only former member of the Obama cabinet who could be reached for comment.

And she proffered the view that, "This change has been in the cards for years, and had former President Obama, now our Dictator-for-life not made the historic move, then I would have been prepared to do the same in my administration, once elected."

"I give our new Dictator my full and enthusiastic support, though under our new system of government, he will not need it."

778 neighbour of some guy
1st April 2014, 16:17
(No. Really. This happened)

Obama had an identical speech delivered in Europe, by a body double:

mVFrdWIs2LI

It was met with a thunderous response... from crickets

Hillary Clinton was the only former member of the Obama cabinet who could be reached for comment.

And she proffered the view that, "This change has been in the cards for years, and had former President Obama, now our Dictator-for-life not made the historic move, then I would have been prepared to do the same in my administration, once elected."

"I give our new Dictator my full and enthusiastic support, though under our new system of government, he will not need it."

That was a midget???

GuyFox
1st April 2014, 16:24
That was a midget???

Like this?
http://www.swanwickcentre.ca/sites/default/files/Mini%20Me-2.jpg

New Dictator-for-Life Obama might consider similar garb as a show of office

Ahnung-quay
1st April 2014, 16:30
Somehow I don't think that gray is his color. You guys crack me up! Thanks for the fools day laugh.

GuyFox
1st April 2014, 16:36
Somehow I don't think that gray is his color. You guys crack me up! Thanks for the fools day laugh.

yeah.
maybe you are right.
Instead, he should go for THIS Indonesia costume, and call himself: "King-of-Kings"

( image )

He might have to use a different Collateral account to fund his plans,
perhaps the Spiritual-Black-Boy account

778 neighbour of some guy
1st April 2014, 16:40
I though Alfred E Neumann was King of Kings:confused:

raregem
1st April 2014, 17:19
Obama declares himself Dictator-for-Life : BREAKING NEWS

http://edition.cnn.com/video/politics/2010/08/31/sot.obama.iraq.speech.full.cnn.576x324.jpg

In his best speech in years, President Obama resigned, and declared himself Dictator-for-Life of the U.S.A.

He claimed that this change was necessary in order to complete his mission, and install Obamacare, and other vital programs.



He said that he had warned those in Congress repeatedly that he would not stand for continuing deadlocks in legislation, and after careful consideration, and discussion with "people representing the people" this was the inevitable result.

He had planned to wait until the 4th of July to make the declaration, but was concerned that impeachment legislation might be rushed through before that important date in American history. "Henceforth," he said, "April will be known for something besides taxes."


HUH? Is this a joke?
EDIT: UH...GOT ME !

Rocky_Shorz
1st April 2014, 18:31
off topic, but has everyone seen the new Australia collectors coin?

Kind of fitting, the Queen is the front and behind a swarm of sharks...

http://www.images-apmex.com/handlers/ThumbJpeg.ashx?VFilePath=~/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/81351_Obv.jpg&width=75&height=75
http://www.images-apmex.com/handlers/ThumbJpeg.ashx?VFilePath=~/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/81351_Slab.jpg&width=75&height=75

What does it say that the new Shark Culling policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Australian_shark_cull) has been introduced in WA...

-- Pan

at first I thought you meant she was bumping off the bankers dang it...

California has trained dolphins that attack sharks getting too close to swimmers...

maybe you can talk Sea world into moving to Australia now that California is making them set the Orcas free...

ghostrider
1st April 2014, 23:06
King of Kings was Elvis ...

GuyFox
2nd April 2014, 00:18
Elvis?

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Nightline/abc_belvis2_100106_mn.jpg

Obama can do that too, if it comes with the right title

GuyFox
2nd April 2014, 00:31
President grants himself dictatorial powers


Posted at 5:26 pm on April 1, 2014 by News Staff | View Comments


While most Americans were preparing their tax returns, US president Barrack Obama granted himself dictator-like powers — a development that could have far-reaching effects on the United States.

Via the Washingtruth Post:

Quote
Under the terms of the Tuesday decree, which went into effect immediately, few if any checks appeared to remain on Obama’s power for the foreseeable future. The president said that all of the decisions he has made since he took office — and until a new constitution is adopted and a parliament elected — were final and not subject to appeal or review. He declared the retrial of senior officials accused in the 911 incident, a measure that appeared targeted at former leader George W. Bush and associates. And he dismissed three Supreme Court judges, immediately swearing in new ones. The announcement, which was read on state television by Obama’s spokesman, Valerie Jarrett, late Thursday afternoon and broadcast repeatedly, accompanied by nationalistic songs, shocked many in this struggling country. It came less than 24 hours after a diplomatic triumph in arranging the cease-fire between Israel and Russia had given new credence to Obama’s international bona fides. And it raised questions about whether the country might be headed toward a repetition of the Bush-era America on the world stage: a country praised for bringing stability to a volatile region, and tolerated for abusing rights at home.

> http://twitchy.com/2012/11/22/president-of-egypt-grants-himself-dictatorial-powers/

Shezbeth
2nd April 2014, 00:58
Very amusing, but entirely the wrong sub-forum. The Lighter Side?

Nice job editing that article about MORSI in EGYPT there Guy.

GuyFox
2nd April 2014, 02:48
Very amusing, but entirely the wrong sub-forum. The Lighter Side?
Nice job editing that article about MORSI in EGYPT there Guy.

Yeah.
On April 2nd, it could/should? be moved to another section.

You cannot pull off a decent April 1st gag, unless you do it with a straight face.
And I am sure people were expecting something*. And my 2nd or 3rd post would have be a give-away,
if the game had not already been spoiled in post #2.

=== ===
* I went for a (credible?) Obama gag, rather that the obvious ET Disclosure gag

sigma6
2nd April 2014, 04:46
It's funny but to be fair it's a room full of press only. They're not there to support or not support, they're there to cover it. No need for anyone to clap.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

It astounds me that people still think 'the vote was fixed'. It's very apparent that the vote probably isn't fixed, regardless of who wins the cabal still call the shots. For all we know Obama had all the best intentions as President but the second he got into power he was probably taken into a room and told that he now belongs to them, and if he even thinks of doing anything other than what they tell him to do... they'll kill his wife and children. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.


This is pretty cut and dry, on the record, just because you haven't heard it in the main stream doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
That's why everyone is turning to alternative media... and doing their own due diligence and making their own decisions...

Clinton Eugene Curtis - Computer Programmer solicited by Congressman Tom Feeney (Fmr. Speaker of The House in Florida) to rig the elections...

t4aKOhbbK9E

kemo
2nd April 2014, 07:30
Must have got the idea from Mr Putin.

GuyFox
2nd April 2014, 23:50
(for those who think my little gag was unfair to President Obama)

Mike Harris show 14 Aug 2013 Part 2

GD: ......Anyone that the Israeli government will push millions of dollars to defeat in an election, can't be all that bad.
What if you had the president that you always sort of wanted to have?
What if Obama were OK?
What if you put him in charge of a government run by thieves, Satanists, scum?
For 8 years, every department was taken over.
What if we gerrymandered through redistricting the entire House of Representatives where it is.........
We have a majority in the House of Representatives that was elected by 37% of the American people.
We have done that to redemocratise this country
The government in its entirety, has to go
What if Obama were really OK?
.... It's so easy to motivate people now that hate the POTUS
A black president that wants to deliver health care, aid education, roads, cheap gas.
A president that tries to stop war, that tried to close Guantanamo and was stopped.
A president who would tax the rich, lower taxes to the poor.
A president who would bring jobs back in this country
And he's hated and so many are hating him
We have the first chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, to stand up to Israel in decades
The 1st truly American, appointed by Barack Obama
We've got Chuck Hagel - the 1st honest Secretary of Defence we've had in 35 years.
The 1st one; appointed by Barack Obama .....
==

>

ExomatrixTV
5th April 2014, 18:51
QGqfZkkCJnk

Rocky_Shorz
7th April 2014, 02:20
49 straight months of job growth...

largest healthcare expansion in 50 yrs...

deficit falling at fastest rate in 60 yrs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bkjx5czCYAAn-sP.jpg

Cardillac
8th April 2014, 11:29
Hi all-

I bumped into this yesterday on rense.com (sort of shattered my countenance and wrecked my complextion for a few hours)-

I realize this concept initially sounds just too grotesque/bizarre/weird (insert your own favorite adjective) to be believable but I came to the conclusion a long time ago the weirder (insert favorite adjective) a concept may initially appear the more truth there just may be behind it- we're living in an unbelievably distorted world-

if you have the time and interest do check out the following then draw your own conclusions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVAXqKugXkg

the bit about the Williams sisters was posted in a later video by the poster available (in typical YouTube style) by looking to the right at the other available videos on this subject (obviously from same poster)-

please continue to stay well all-

Larry

marlowe
8th April 2014, 12:38
The evidence that Serena Williams is a man is very strong...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwrP1zHC5Eo

Operator
8th April 2014, 12:52
Hi all-

I bumped into this yesterday on rense.com (sort of shattered my countenance and wrecked my complextion for a few hours)-

I realize this concept initially sounds just too grotesque/bizarre/weird (insert your own favorite adjective) to be believable but I came to the conclusion a long time ago the weirder (insert favorite adjective) a concept may initially appear the more truth there just may be behind it- we're living in an unbelievably distorted world-

if you have the time and interest do check out the following then draw your own conclusions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVAXqKugXkg

the bit about the Williams sisters was posted in a later video by the poster available (in typical YouTube style) by looking to the right at the other available videos on this subject (obviously from same poster)-

please continue to stay well all-

Larry

A better approach to watch those videos is to turn down the volume and not listen/read the narrative.
Because the narrative often is a biased opinion to begin with and will front-load you ...

So I jumped through the video and looked at some stills for a moment. I have to admit that when you concentrate
on torso and posture I get the (gut) 'feeling' of looking at a male ... Just my 2 cents.

seeker/reader
8th April 2014, 12:56
This is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are AFRAID of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. BASE mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on Avalon.

Sidney
8th April 2014, 13:26
Go to google images and plug in female body builders/athletes and you will see other women with the lower waist indent. You simply cannot base this on a waistline. Also, does it even matter? Its competitive sports, corruption live among all sports, so who even cares anymore. Our world is full of cheaters at every turn.


And Obama??? Our problems in the white house go MUCH deeper than gender issues.

Cardillac
8th April 2014, 13:41
first of all @ seeker/reader:

as the poster stated in the video: this is not a racist rant/de-faming of Blacks (paraphrase)-

if one has read Cathy O'Brien's "Trance Formation of America" one can more than understand why residents of US inner cities and Latinos were the most prey/targeted to mind-controllers; if you haven't yet read it you might want to do so before you make such a claim as "This is a bunch of racists crap";

I'm anything but racist so why should I post something I felt was racist?- please give me at least some credit for trying to expose all the lies out there (isn't that why we're all here on this website?)- I don't know what your skin color/sex is (could care less) but the de-bunkers of this video are all coming at it from a racist point of view; so tell me (us all): if we criticize and try to expose Obama are we all RACISTS?-

stay well-

Larry

@marlowe/operator-

the bit about finger/waist-line comparisons and 'women' being able to pack so much muscle intrigued me the most and cracked my face...

please stay well-

Larry

marlowe
8th April 2014, 13:52
. does it even matter? Its competitive sports, corruption live among all sports, so who even cares anymore. Our world is full of cheaters at every turn.
.

YES ...Because lies matter and uncovering the lies is important.......
It is not racist to talk about the differences in the races......
For instance young Black males are committing half the murders in the US but they represent only 4% of the US population...

seeker/reader
8th April 2014, 13:57
I am not saying anyone is racist. I am saying that the crap posted in videos about Michelle Obama and the Williams sisters as being men is CODED or COVERT racism.

Coded racism is real and I see it on a daily basis. It is used as a shield to hide the true intentions of cowards.

I am a strong and opinionated FEMALE.

I have a right to voice my opinion and I am doing so.

I have watched the videos. They are NOT truth as they CLAIM to be.

My ring finger is longer than my index finger. I also have large naturally muscular shoulders and arms and a muscular physique in general. If I worked out it would be more pronounced. Excuse me for having good genes.

Those videos are a bunch of CRAP!

Strong women are feared by some people. I have felt it personally throughout my life.

Cardillac
8th April 2014, 14:00
@Sidney

"Go to google images and plug in female body builders/athletes and you will see other women with the lower waist indent"- if you do even further research you will find that many past "female" athletes were actually male; the Williams sisters are no new phenomena; I apologize profusely for not notating the source but (according to source) a female German Olympic who "succeeded" at least to a certain extent in the 1936 Berlin Olympics was exposed as a male after her death in the early 70's-

let alone the former "East Germany" contingents (winners!- can we all spell steroids/hormonal alterations?) in the Olympics in the days of the DDR- God only knows who/what these people really were...

be well-

Larry

Matt P
8th April 2014, 14:15
This is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are AFRAID of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. BASE mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on Avalon.

You apparently didn't watch it before commenting. Sad to see that happen on Avalon.

Matt

[edit: your comment wasn't up when I posted. So maybe you did watch it. But still, it's always a good idea to comment on the information instead of just ridiculing. When people label or ridicule instead of dealing with the facts presented, it's usually a sign they have no case themselves. This is one of the most basic concepts for folks around here, I am really surprised to see it happen. This is the kind of crap that the bad guys do]

seeker/reader
8th April 2014, 14:17
this is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are afraid of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. Base mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on avalon.

you apparently didn't watch it before commenting. Sad to see that happen on avalon.

Matt

I did watch it. I have eyes to see the real truth hidden behind the facade. Sad to see others here on Avalon who don't.

Matt P
8th April 2014, 14:23
this is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are afraid of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. Base mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on avalon.

you apparently didn't watch it before commenting. Sad to see that happen on avalon.

Matt

I did watch it. I have eyes to see the real truth hidden behind the facade. Sad to see others here on Avalon who don't.

I have no opinion one way or the other about this other than the information is quite interesting. It's my first exposure to it so I can't pass judgment. I do know I've seen enough crazy sh#t, that I have a hard time dismissing anything without strong evidence.
As a casual observer I have to say that your extreme emotional reaction to this is also quite interesting.
Also please be careful how you label me. You know nothing of me.

Matt

seeker/reader
8th April 2014, 14:31
this is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are afraid of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. Base mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on avalon.

you apparently didn't watch it before commenting. Sad to see that happen on avalon.

Matt

I did watch it. I have eyes to see the real truth hidden behind the facade. Sad to see others here on Avalon who don't.

I have no opinion one way or the other about this other than the information is quite interesting. It's my first exposure to it so I can't pass judgment. I do know I've seen enough crazy sh#t, that I have a hard time dismissing anything without strong evidence.
As a casual observer I have to say that your extreme emotional reaction to this is also quite interesting.
Also please be careful how you label me. You know nothing of me.

Matt

You assumed things about me and critiqued me first. You labeled me, so I labeled you.

Don't like it, then don't dish it out first.

Maybe my being a FEMALE gives me some ideas about what a FEMALE body is like. How shocking to have such insight and information first hand.

TargeT
8th April 2014, 14:42
NOTHING is above question. EVER.



if you (anyone) are emotionally responding to a topic, step away until you can come back without that influence; it is often a good sign that you are re-acting (running pre programmed "flight or fight" responses) and is generally not conducive to a good discussion.

loungelizard
8th April 2014, 15:01
Well, now I'm worried. Either the first 5 minutes of that video are utterly and completely wrong, or - looking at my hands - I have been living a lie for the decades I have been on this earth. Do I need to go out and buy a completely new wardrobe and have a long chat with the grandchildren? It was after all called "Irrefutable Proof"…:becky:

Finger length is only a reflection of what went on in the womb when you were a foetus. The ring finger has more hormone receptors than the index finger. Testosterone lengthens the fingers, and oestrogen halts their growth. If you are exposed to a higher level of testosterone in the womb, your index fingers will be longer than your ring finger. Simple.

It is no proof of gender.

Fairy Friend
8th April 2014, 15:08
FYI men have an Adam's apple and women do not. Look at her throat

markpierre
8th April 2014, 15:19
This culture is one grossly overproduced horribly acted porn movie. Don't you get that these have to be facts?
Look at the rest of the script.
And we keep watching it for godsake. Mike Obama. C'mon.
I hope it's true. It's just too funny. It isn't a meaningless waste of your attention at all. I hope these revelations
don't drive anyone to suicide.

I've often wondered if McEnroe was a girl.

araucaria
8th April 2014, 17:06
Thank you Larry. We’d know you were still a man even if you started singing counter-tenor :)

Let me steer clear of the controversy and merely flesh out some of the tennis side to this story to see how various bases might be covered in this particular case. It is a highly complex picture.

The bulging muscles come under the doping debate. Rafael Nadal is the Putin (or the Steven Greer:)) of tennis and people make endless allusions to alternative ways to the gym for producing those biceps, which soon disappeared under his t-shirt after starting his career in sleeveless shirts. No harm in that: he was merely learning to dress like everyone else. Doping convictions in tennis are few and far between. Some say that this is because controls are very tight. However, Roger Federer for one regularly complains that dope tests are rare and getting rarer. So the subject of Serena Williams’ biceps would come under doping, and that is more or less off the table. One illicit drug is testosterone, which the cyclist Lance Armstrong would have been taking as part of his treatment for testicular cancer, even before injecting all the other stuff he confessed about to Oprah. This is where transgender and doping issues cross paths: when a woman takes testosterone, the result can be similar to when a man does a sex change. Or maybe she has just been lifting weights.

The other side to this is the development of both the men’s and the women’s game into slugging matches between big strong players. Sharapova herself is a six-foot tall fashion model. The men’s game is getting even worse, with many players nowadays 6’5” and over. In other words, we are seeing greater masculinity all round.

Combine this with the race card. Any criticism of the Williamses can be defused by calling it racist as there are very few non-whites playing pro tennis. Years ago, the diminutive Swiss teenage champion Martina Hingis earned herself a very bad name when she said that playing against the Williamses was like playing against a man. She played a feminine game more vulnerable to sheer brawn, being based on guile and shot placement, a style that unsurprisingly has gradually disappeared. Top women players will sometimes use men as sparring-partners, to make up in strength/speed what they lack in skill – so Hingis would very likely know exactly what she meant by ‘playing against a man’. Nowadays, many may talk about women slugging it out, but would be wary of saying they all play like men. So there is no room at all these days for suspecting any of actually being men, although as Cardillac points out, this used to be a common suspicion of East German athletes, sometimes confirmed by sex tests. Short memories are another trap we need to beware of.

The other issue in women’s sport that clouds this debate is nothing new either: homosexuality. This has involved women at the top of the game, thanks in part, it would seem, to their more masculine physical abilities. In the sixties, Billie Jean King was the only woman to play serve and volley at Wimbledon like the men. She actually played an exhibition match, billed as the Battle of the Sexes, against the ageing male chauvinist pig Bobby Riggs, and she won. This was against the backdrop of Women’s Lib and her fight to introduce professional tennis for women, so to that extent, this was no bad thing.
Then there was Martina Navratilova, who usually (but by no means always) came off best in her friendly rivalry with the more feminine Chris Evert. And more recently, we had Amélie Mauresmo, whom Martina Hingis also described as playing a man’s game. I don’t think anyone is suggesting she actually is a man. These women were presumably just naturally more powerful after for example receiving extra testosterone in the womb – I really have no idea. I have no stereotype of what a woman should be like.

However, there does come a point where things become dishonest, and pushy parents and coaches are all too common. Many female tennis players suffer sexual or other abuse from their coaches; there have been some high profile cases in recent years. For example, the Swiss player Patty Schnyder came under the spell first of a scientologist who had her drinking 3 liters of orange juice a day; she replaced him with a bodyguard/trainer/husband who stayed around long enough to probably siphon off her hard-earned millions, as she ended up broke.
http://www.illustre.ch/illustre/article/martina-hingis-patty-schnyder-un-double-g%C3%A2chis

Pushy parents are another plague in the game. One guy in France used to slip Temesta into his kids’ opponents’ water bottles to make them sleepy. Until one sent his bottle to a lab for testing. It was later found that a man who had wrapped his car round a tree and had Temesta in his blood was on his way home from one such tennis match.
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/20030927.OBS7159/nouveaux-temoignages-contre-le-pere-des-tennismen.html

This was manslaughter for only the tiniest material gain. But now that professional tennis has equal prize money for women, the potential financial gains for someone like Richard Williams pushing his kids to do well were huge. Maybe he did not do what he is accused of in this video. Maybe he did not actually cheat in any other way with performance-enhancing drugs. But even so, it is more than likely that some degree of parental abuse was involved in driving his children to the top and maintaining them there for so long (most female players retire very early). This also sometimes happens with men. Descriptions of Rafa Nadal’s coaching as a child by his uncle suggest abusive levels of discipline, and this possibly shows in his endless string of mannerisms before serving.

Hence this subject is important with regard to the training of ‘champions’ in various fields through mind control techniques not dissimilar to what we see in other contexts – with or without the transgender component. But since that component is the subject of this thread, we may want to see transgender issues as just one aspect of the identity issues people are increasingly facing these days, whether forced to take action because of dissatisfaction at who they started out as, or as one form of sexual mutilation imposed by others. Alternatively, this can be considered from the angle of cognitive dissonance, which came up last year in connection with Pattie Brassard.



This is going to sound silly, but I'll say it anyway: throughout the interview with Mel, I was distracted by the impression of listening to a man.
:confused:

I won't say who else ... but you weren't the only one :).
:wave:

The PTW are mixing it up now because the old way is broke. People are not buying it.

Another intended ‘level of confusion,’ I didn't hear much of an east coast, MA accent.


Perfect Boston Accent
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The male voice is just one more tool tossed into this game of hide and seek. One of the diverse reasons for the video is to create people fighting over transgender bias. Another is the intentional cognitive dissonance with the information offered on so many topics covered in a one hour block.

Objective One: Keep everyone busy with what ever works on us as individuals and groups. Some examples: research, fighting, confusion, loss of hope, send some over the edge, separate us through escalation of anger, fear, etc. All food juice for the sh!tbirds.

Objective Two: Keep us from our divine creativity and imagination that fosters balance in all things. It is not in their best interest for us all to come together. That power ignites recall of what we are capable of. Change. They GO POOF with CHANGE.

ghostrider
8th April 2014, 17:32
odd , I started watching youtube vids about Michelle Obama once being a man this weekend , and now this thread pops up ... just go on youtube and watch all the video and early pictures of the first lady , decide for yourself ... they say president Obama himself likes men , so a male partner would be that far out there ... if true , it's the greatest deception pulled on the entire world ...

Akasha
8th April 2014, 18:56
........ so a male partner would be that far out there ... if true , it's the greatest deception pulled on the entire world ...

the ultimate Illuminati "quenelle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenelle_%28gesture%29)" to the unassuming American electorate.

No racist slurs intended.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
8th April 2014, 21:22
You made me click this OP. lol

Your thread reminds me of something my uncle said about Arnold Schwarzenegger.
That after Arnold's hotshot brother was killed, the family shot Arnold up with the dead kid's growth hormone to make him "perfect".

These things do happen, who knows if the story is true, but strange things do happen...

but I agree, some people don't like black women and make up some awful stories.

however someone recently posted a thread saying Michelle has never waved a US flag on camera, but she waved red ones?
That is much more concerning to me.

We shouldn't be kissing China's ass

Cardillac
8th April 2014, 21:25
@araucaria

many, many thanks for your extremely detailed/informed (extremely intelligent) response and for rattling my memories about a few things I had, well, forgotten-

but doping aside (and I think we can all assume most professional athletes now-a-days are doped): recent Wimbledon winner Andy Murray stated that several tennis players in recent times have been bribed to lose certain matches (he's even named names)-

but all that aside: anyone thinking the video link I posted was a cheap racist ploy (or supporting the racist accusations) is just simply not in touch with reality/true history; one needs to look at past athletic/political history to see that many, many more whites have been exposed in the past as being either trans-gender, "hormoned" out the wazoo or whatever...

interestingly enough Greg Hallett's "Hitler Was a British Agent" contains an addendum entitled "Was Wallis Simpson Born a Man?" complete with medically gory details about her supposed physiology (if Hallett is credible)- and yet Hallett has not been accused of being (guess what?) a RACIST because of exposing a white woman (gosh!)-

obviously the Obama/Williams videos (if credible) are the latest paragraph in probably a very long chapter in human manipulation; the fact the last few sentences refer to Afro-Americans is a FIRST (at least as publicized)- so where's the problem?- Whites/Latinos/Blacks (skin color irrelevant) have been equally compromised-

when I first joined Avalon I thought I was joining a forum of exclusively/completely opened-minded people but my hopes have been shattered by a barrage (well, in the minority) of narrow-minded people who seem to look at things exclusively according to the skin-color of the individual(s) either being praised or under scrutiny-

please continue to be well araucaria and all readers-

Larry

blufire
8th April 2014, 21:51
..........................

I was an athlete through high school and college. In high school both basketball and track and field . . . .I still hold the Tennessee state record in hurdles.

I went to the University of Tennessee (Go Lady Vols!!) on a track and field scholarship as a pentathlete (5 events). I lived with and competed against world class female athletes for the next 21/2 years. Most of the women in my event and a large percentage of women in all other events were taking male steroids. They talked, shaved as a man, did not have periods and had huge out of proportion muscle structure. Not to mention highly volatile and angry from the steroid effect.

I did not take steroids but was on a very rigorous scientifically planned training schedule, diet . . .every thing in my life was micromanaged by our trainers and coaches.

Going into my junior (3rd) year at college I had 6% fat, weighed 124 (5’8”), had an ‘8 pack’, bench pressed 169 lbs, pressed 340lbs with my legs and could arm wrestle most men and win. My arms were much bigger than Michelle Obama’s and wore young boy’s jeans because my hips and rear end were so slender women’s jeans slid off whether I wore a belt or not.

The women on male steroids looked like Serena Williams and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind she is using steroids of some type . . . . women cannot build that much muscle mass without ‘help’.

She looks like a man because all women who use steroids do begin to look and act like men because of what it does to their bodies and hormones. I will also say a large percentage of women in sports are lesbians or at least this was my experience . . . .even two of my coaches were lesbian . . . which adds the seemingly ‘maleness’ to their appearance and behavior.

I think also the fact the women of this thread are black (African American) (good lord I am afraid I gonna use the wrong term here) is important to the muscle structure they have. I noticed many times the black athletes I competed against absolutely had certain definition in their legs, abdomen and arms that no matter how hard I or other caucasian women trained we could not accomplish this type of muscle definition . . . . . so it has to be their heritage and the their race that allows for this difference.

So I do not believe these women were born men . . . . I think there are other factors at work here and ‘some people’ with agendas to fulfill are weaving their little webs.

Really people if we can’t understand what is going on and what is happening right in front of our eyes and use logic to explain and understand each event . . . .how can we ever hope to understand things that are even slightly more difficult , , ,let alone issues such a alien races and the implementation of the New World Order.

And by the way . . . . going into the second semester of my junior year at the University of Tennessee I lost my scholarship because I refused to take male steroids to further enhance my performance.

Ahnung-quay
8th April 2014, 22:03
When I first viewed the video of Michelle when it was posted under the thread about her waving the Chinese flags, I never thought about race at all.
For the record, I have longer ring fingers than index fingers and my blood line grandchildren call me "grandma". My daughter and one granddaughter also have longer ring fingers than index fingers. My mixed race granddaughter (black/white) has longer index than ring fingers. So what does the hand thing prove? Nothing.
I was more convinced by looking at Michelle's neck and shoulder muscles (especially her trapezius muscles) and shoulder width than anything. Her arms and shoulders are extremely cut for a woman her age. Most women start to become more flabby than ripped at around age 45 even if they do work out. It goes with the hormonal changes known as peri-menopause and menopause.
Her head to body height is also telling. There are tall women but, it's true that their head to body ratios is, as depicted in the video, 1:7 rather than 1:8.
And, as Corey Everson demonstrated back in the 80's, women can have a muscular physic without bulking by doing lighter lifts with longer reps. Michelle's shoulders and arms are pretty bulky compared to her legs.
It's strange that a few years ago one could find more information on Michael Lavaugn Robinson. Google has made it harder now. I think that she is a man posing as a woman.

marlowe
8th April 2014, 22:11
The evidence that Serena Williams is a man is very strong...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwrP1zHC5Eo

@ blufire Have you watched this video....?....

Because it goes beyond what you are talking about......
Steroids cannot increase the size of a person's skull .....
or the configuration of a person's face.....
There is a significant difference in the bone structure of the skulls of black men & black women....

Serena Williams has the skull of a black man.....

I am sick & tired of people who think they know the contents of a video without watching it......

AutumnW
8th April 2014, 22:12
This is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are AFRAID of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. BASE mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on Avalon.

[QUOTE=seeker/reader;820042]I am not saying anyone is racist. I am saying that the crap posted in videos about Michelle Obama and the Williams sisters as being men is CODED or COVERT racism.

Coded racism is real and I see it on a daily basis. It is used as a shield to hide the true intentions of cowards.

I am a strong and opinionated FEMALE.

I have a right to voice my opinion and I am doing so.

I have watched the videos. They are NOT truth as they CLAIM to be.

My ring finger is longer than my index finger. I also have large naturally muscular shoulders and arms and a muscular physique in general. If I worked out it would be more pronounced. Excuse me for having good genes.

Those videos are a bunch of CRAP!

Strong women are feared by some people. I have felt it personally throughout my

T Smith
8th April 2014, 22:27
This is a bunch of racists crap. Some people are AFRAID of smart/strong black women who are winners and are successful at their endeavors. BASE mentality at its worst. Pathetic and sad to see on Avalon.

Op-ed post:

Cynthia McKinney = yes, smart/strong Black woman
Michelle Obama .... not so inspiring

marlowe
8th April 2014, 22:37
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My ring finger is longer than my index finger. I also have large naturally muscular shoulders and arms and a muscular physique in general. If I worked out it would be more pronounced.
.



Do you want to try to explain away the fact that Serena has the skull of a black man...If you actually watched the whole video it points out
that black men have a bulge of bone in the lower back of their skull that black females don't have..But Serena has the bulge....

How do you explain that other than that Serena is a male .....?

Elainie
8th April 2014, 23:23
My ring finger is way longer than my index finger and I most certainly am not a man. Such BS for starters.

Earth Angel
8th April 2014, 23:43
those girls looked like boys even as children... so that does not go along with the idea of steroids changing them to be more masculine looking

East Sun
9th April 2014, 00:27
Why are white people so scared to say anything that might indicate that they are racist. If they are they are and if not they are not. Being scared to criticize Obama, either one is
being politically correct and that means being controlled.

Time to stop being controlled by politicians, period.

grannyfranny100
9th April 2014, 00:34
My toe next to my big toe is longer than the big toe. During the middle ages such women were burned at the stake for being witches. Apparently some of my female ancestors survived. BTW, I am not a witch.

Kindred
9th April 2014, 00:44
While all the people ensconced within their sexual 'boxes' argue about whether this or that woman looks like a 'male', Rome burns.

Certainly there are better and more important subjects to be discussed, YES?

(If this subject is of concern to you, I suggest you look up the word "Intersex" - you'll be surprised... http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/28/1080331000649.html )

Note - this is NOT to suggest that the women in question are 'intersexed'.. I'm just pointing out that there seem to be several individuals here that remain blind to all the states of being that do not fall within the misconceived and restricted concepts of what is 'normal'.

It also appears that there are a number here that still need to learn some basic biology.

GOD made ALL Things Possible, for to make any One thing 'Impossible', is tantamount to making All things 'Impossible'.

In Unity, Peace and Love

DeDukshyn
9th April 2014, 01:00
Noise. ...............

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My toe next to my big toe is longer than the big toe. During the middle ages such women were burned at the stake for being witches. Apparently some of my female ancestors survived. BTW, I am not a witch.

Interesting note, thanks!.

My 3rd finger is way longer than my first. That means something too! :-) The testosterone levels in a pregnant mother directly dictate the "masculinity" levels of the offspring (and the size relationship between fingers 1 and three indicate how much testosterone the mother was carrying while a fetus). Period (this is fact - one I can be happy about ;)). This whole premise (the thread topic) is bunk IMHO. Everything is normal, and who really cares? About 1 in 25,000 are born hermaphrodite in this world -- the automated medical procedure in "civilized" countries is to remove the penis and testes at birth.

Again .. I feel this topic is just noise ...

Rocky_Shorz
9th April 2014, 01:08
7 days from a possible international bank collapse and assassination attempt on Obama, and this is the most important spin this week? :ballchain:

marlowe
9th April 2014, 01:46
7 days from a possible international bank collapse and assassination attempt on Obama, and this is the most important spin this week? :ballchain:

all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy [ or girl} whatever....

We could focus on a narrow set of topics but it sure would get boring.....

but even more boring is reading people's posts who have not watched the video.....

blufire
9th April 2014, 01:49
Marlow. . Fyi I watched the video.

Serana Williams has made millions in her professional tennis career. Logically do you not think that at some point throughout all these years one of her opponents or an official would have demanded testing if they thought she at one time was a man?

There is not a chance in the hottest Hades the media hype would not have jumped on that sorted hoopla if it were even remotely possible.

And by the way about her having a 'male skull' . . Hormonal steroids can alter bone structure if the person taking steroids is still physically growing. Remember 'growth hormones ' for young adolescents if it appears they have stopped growing?

DeDukshyn
9th April 2014, 01:54
Marlow. . Fyi I watched the video.

Serana Williams has made millions in her professional tennis career. Logically do you not think that at some point throughout all these years one of her opponents or an official would have demanded testing if they thought she at one time was a man?

There is not a chance in the hottest Hades the media hyper would not have jumped on that sorted hoopla if it were even remotely possible.

And by the way. . . Hormonal steroids can alter bone structure if the person taking steroids is still physically growing. Remember 'growth hormones ' for young adolescents if it appears they have stopped growing?

Of course steroids or even high testosterone or growth hormone can cause bone structure changes -- the steroid "brow" and "jaw"; known; -- bone is living tissue too! It doesn't even have to be "still growing".

marlowe
9th April 2014, 02:04
7 days from a possible international bank collapse and assassination attempt on Obama, and this is the most important spin this week? :ballchain:

[1] Scientists say the Pacific Ocean will be dead from Fukushima radiation in 6 years

[2] Astrologer Joni Patry says that 2014 will be the most dramatic and dangerous year of our lifetime.
[3] Clif High says Israel will attack iran soon and I will go very bad for Israel...4 Israeli cities turned to rubble and shards of glass.
[4] We have had ongoing 6 magnitude quakes since March 10th..& an mega quake is expected in Chile or possibly California soon....

Can it get any worse.....YES.....

This thread is a much needed distraction from the coming DOOM..:mad2:.

Wizard Of Ozark
9th April 2014, 02:16
This thread is pointless on a forum like this one. Sorry. I hate to be like that, but it just is.

Rocky_Shorz
9th April 2014, 02:18
7 days from a possible international bank collapse and assassination attempt on Obama, and this is the most important spin this week? :ballchain:

[1] Scientists say the Pacific Ocean will be dead from Fukushima radiation in 6 years

[2] Astrologer Joni Patry says that 2014 will be the most dramatic and dangerous year of our lifetime.
[3] Clif High says Israel will attack iran soon and I will go very bad for Israel...4 Israeli cities turned to rubble and shards of glass.
[4] We have had ongoing 6 magnitude quakes since March 10th..& an mega quake is expected in Chile or possibly California soon....

Can it get any worse.....YES.....

This thread is a much needed distraction from the coming DOOM..:mad2:.


comedy is a much needed distraction...

no humor in this...

I laugh from disasters every time we hop a new timeline to escape it...

one of those deep belly lean back your head and explode with laughter kinda feel goods...

the reason prophets are around is to let us know to change what we can...

and we can change anything... ;)