Philip Seymour Hoffman -- "Ezekiel Moss" Project -- Did Someone Want Him Dead?

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The Death of a Saint: Philip Seymour Hoffman

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Most of us have read or otherwise heard by now that there was another high-profile celebrity death on Super Bowl Sunday, Feb 2, 2014.

Beloved and talented actor Philip Seymour Hoffman was allegedly found dead in his spare apartment on the morning of Super Bowl Sunday. Convenient packages supposedly carrying illicit drugs were found alongside him, yada yada, typical boring low-level police narrative that we get every time one of these special ones dies.

It is very difficult to discuss such a thing on an internet website and give enough dignity to the dead. But knowing by the taste of life I've had through Phil's acting, something is telling me that he didn't want to go down silently, that he had a very important message to give to us viewers.

Apparently Mr. Hoffman was working on a very special project. I wasn't aware of this, since I didn't follow Hunger Games and only watched "The Master" once. This was to be one of his first directed works, if I read correctly. It was going to be called "Ezekiel Moss". The major casting announcements had been made within hours of the Super Bowl. I think some of the articles announcing the cast were so recent that they were still front page on the Hollywood sites when he was found.

A couple very high-profile, wonderful actors, had been chosen to play roles in Hoffman's Ezekiel Moss, which was a story about a traveling medium, a wayfaring spiritist who encounters people surviving the great depression. Traditionally, the traveling wise man is a depiction of Odin or Mercury/Hermes. He is a messenger god.

Two years ago, I had an Odic experience. It was within two days of the 2012 Super Bowl. I felt the presence of Odin and wrote about my experiences, detailing on my internet website my impressions of this very advanced and loving intelligence in our universe, his pleasure in the feminine arts of fortune telling, and his unhappiness with what was going to happen the week of the Super Bowl in 2012 and from that day forward. I had an impression of "The Lady in the Water" along with the Odic force.

On the day that the Super Bowl 2012 game was played, it was announced that Jasmin de Grazia, a famous Argentine model and journalist, had been found dead in her bathroom, allegedly drowned. There were prescriptions in the room and a small amount of cocaine, if I recall. Maybe not cocaine. It doesn't matter as much as what had been written on Jasmin's mirror: "It's not your fault that we have this ugly world", from the song "Tears of Gold".

Within a week of Jasmin's passing, famous American singer Whitney Houston was found dead, the same way, in her tub, with prescriptions and a small amount of drugs nearby.

Not long after, Rodney King was found drowned at the bottom of his own swimming pool.

Before the 2014 Super Bowl happened, on Feb 1st, I felt directed by our father to write down the passage of Ezekiel 11. In the context of the media attention being given to the great games in our country and not the great troubles it suffers, I felt led to share the words of the prophet as he experienced the second sight himself and was lifted above the normal passage of time to see what was coming.

I knew that something terrible was likely to happen because of the occult nature of the founding of this country. What it's based on, what drives its success, what they give and what they ask for in places like New York City and New Jersey, and also I remember some things that Ted Gunderson tried to say about America before they killed him too.

But the fact that it was Ezekiel's voice that carried over everyone else, isn't that the weirdest part of it all? That my warning about the Super Bowl this year had a passage from Ezekiel 11, and Philip Seymour Hoffman died IMMEDIATELY after he started casting actors for his project, "Ezekiel Moss".

I am very tired, worn out, exhausted by this, but I give of myself freely and hope that this information helps whomever is sorting out the sordid details of what should have been a celebration and turned into a possible homicide.

Who wanted to silence Philip Seymour Hoffman and intimidate everyone on public TV?
Who did he fight? Just some food for thought, and something to send to the father tonight in your prayers: answers for the Hoffman family. Unlike what happened to Marilyn Monroe's family, who never heard the truth, and like Michael Jackson's family, who had to fight for the truth very hard... Phil deserves the truth because to him the truth was everything.

Did he really want his death turned into ammunition for the drug war? No.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Georg_von_Rosen_-_Oden_som_vandringsman%2C_1886_%28Odin%2C_the_Wanderer%29.jpg/170px-Georg_von_Rosen_-_Oden_som_vandringsman%2C_1886_%28Odin%2C_the_Wanderer%29.jpg

God also said something else. For the USA to stop killing people to make a point that he makes with a paper and pen...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Bunin

In 2012 it was reported that Philip Seymour Hoffman had agreed to direct Bunin's screenplay, Ezekiel Moss, which had been included on the 2011 "Black List" of most promising unproduced screenplays.[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_List_(survey)

The Black List is a survey published every year on the second Friday of December since 2004 by Franklin Leonard, a development executive who as of 2012 works for Will Smith's Overbrook Entertainment.[1][2] The survey includes the top motion picture screenplays not yet produced. The website states that these are not necessarily "the best" screenplays, but rather "the most liked", since it is based on a survey of studio and production company executives.[3]

http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-project-ezekiel-moss-will-not-be-sold-in-berlin/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/philip-seymour-hoffmans-death-future-676405

http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/amy-adams-jake-gyllenhaal-in-ezekiel-moss-114020100387_1.html

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Astronomy_Tower
"The lightning-struck tower. Calamity. Disaster. Coming nearer all the time..."
—Professor Trelawney before the battle commences

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I dreamed the Tower and the Bridge the week he was found.

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We watch the games because we are spiritually hungry.

From Phil's role in Hunger Games:

http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Gamemaker

The Gamemakers design and control the Hunger Games. They design the arena and the outfits, as well as the animals in the arena and the scenery of the arena. They also keep track of the number of deaths that happen in the arena. From the tiniest detail to the biggest bloodbath, the Gamemakers are in charge of entertaining the Capitol to the fullest. A dry and boring Hunger Games means that the head Gamemakers' lives are in peril. A bloody and fantastic Games that keeps the crowd on the edge of their seats brings the Gamemakers fame and fortune.

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At one point yesterday I found it strange that Plutarch Heavensbee and Albus Dumbledore share a common last name. Dumbledore is a bumble bee. Dumbedore dies in the end of the Harry Potter series, which also focuses heavily on games and arenas.

I searched for the religious meaning of bumblebee, didn't get a whole lot.
But I looked for "Flight of the Bumblebee" instead, and got a solid gold hit when it brought up Michael Jackson's song, "Breaking News".

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[ghostrider]

I heard somewhere that he was an addict but had been clean twenty years , this doesn't make sense , you don't fall back after twenty years ... my gut tells me this was a message sent to someone else , he was just used as a tool to put fear in the real target ... call me crazy

[heretogrow]

I am off to bed but before I go. I have to say Tesla you are, beautiful, talented and a blessing here at Avalon. your passion speaks volumes!

Much love to you, dear one!
Julia

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I heard somewhere that he was an addict but had been clean twenty years , this doesn't make sense , you don't fall back after twenty years ... my gut tells me this was a message sent to someone else , he was just used as a tool to put fear in the real target ... call me crazy

Alex Jones pointed out that people were quick to blame "Leftist" influence in Phil's death... sort of scary considering people like Ben Franklin used to enjoy living in America... they wouldn't like it post 9/11, would they? :( lol

You're not crazy!

Well, as Nietzsche put it delicately, it's certainty that drives men mad. ignorance is bliss. It's like our country has gone back to the 50s McCarthyism that enabled the gangbang we see running the place today.

Walt Disney would roll in his grave.

[ghostrider]

I heard somewhere that he was an addict but had been clean twenty years , this doesn't make sense , you don't fall back after twenty years ... my gut tells me this was a message sent to someone else , he was just used as a tool to put fear in the real target ... call me crazy

Alex Jones pointed out that people were quick to blame "Leftist" influence in Phil's death... sort of scary considering people like Ben Franklin used to enjoy living in America... they wouldn't like it post 9/11, would they? :( lol

You're not crazy!

Well, as Nietzsche put it delicately, it's certainty that drives men mad. ignorance is bliss.

it's the timing of his passing that bothers me , it stinks of the eye of Ra group ya know ??? illuminate ... like a set up , Oh I think I'll pile up massive amounts of my vice around me and just as the superbowl is about to begin I'll off myself ... he could have departed anytime ...if he was suicidal ... too convienient , too much preset evidence , like a fake crime scene ...

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2 Feb is when the South American civilizations traditionally sacrificed to water deities,
also it's possible that it was a sacrifice day in the Roman/Greek Euro/Nordic region,
considering on certain days sailors would not embark without a large sacrifice.
It had to be a big one before an important voyage, they would ask the Dioscuri, who also happen to be 'lords of horses',
for favor in crossing. Also known as Mercury, sometimes even personified as Odin.
Kind of strange.

http://www.zezart.com/artexhibition/pf2.jpg

The Super bowl was gonna be hard hit by weather but hmm strange the storm didn't make it -- wow, wonder if... nah, people wouldn't sacrifice to the Twins in New York, or would they? (remembers twin towers!)

Also the 12 thing, the "12th man", seemed very strange/Masonic to me, and as it turns out, the "Clock of Fate" may well have been referenced by Phil while playing the character Plutarch Heavensbee, who flashes a watch showing the Mockingbird emblem who to his people signifies freedom from oppression.

The 12th degree/Grand Master Architect is also a strange tie in. because of his role in "The Master", it was hard not to see that one.
People swearing off Masonry have to include that entity in their oaths! It's just too creepy.

People can apparently carry generational curses, and in fact some books on eastern thought claim that European nobles carry some horrible generational curses because of bloodshed within their own countries.





The important thing to remember about the Ezekiel story, is that in chapter 11 of the book of the Bible, the prophet tries very hard to warn the men of what is coming, and one of them falls dead on the spot while he is speaking.

I found that horribly sad and haunting, that the "12th man" omen culminated in the very UNTIMELY death of a very beloved actor and up-and-coming (would have been the next Eastwood) director.

Much like Jasmin was going to be a big TV hit and say great things.
Instead she was silenced. And even her killer cried.

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/91969/autopsy-reveals-de-grazia-died-from-asphyxia-due-to-immersion


She was given to the water gods.

She was the lady in the water I was told to look for.
Whitney was the next lady in the water.
I am not sure where Phil fits in to this, but there is apparently a Master in the water now, along with Michael and Rodney and Heath.

[ghostrider]

feb 2 is a cosmic day , mohammad was born in feb, immauel was born in feb , now Mr. Hoffman is born into the spirit world ... think about it , it wasn't a death , it was a birth into REAL living ...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

This was weird too:


Lady in the Water is a 2006 American fantasy thriller written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan and starring Paul Giamatti and Bryce Dallas Howard. The film follows a Philadelphia maintenance man who discovers a young woman in the swimming pool of his apartment complex. Gradually, he and his neighbors learn that she is a water nymph whose life is in danger from a vicious, wolf-like, mystical creature that tries to keep her from returning to her watery "blue world".

This is Shyamalan's first movie in which he has played a significant role, as one of the supporting actors. The film received generally unfavorable reviews from film critics,[3][4] who mostly criticized it as having a lack of focus.

One evening, Cleveland Heep (Paul Giamatti), who became a handyman at a Philadelphia apartment complex after his family was murdered, discovers Story (Bryce Dallas Howard), a naiad-like character (called a Narf) from the Blue World, in his building's pool, immediately rescuing her from an attack by a "Scrunt",[5] a grass-covered lupine that lies preternaturally flat.

Story is here to find a specific writer whose book will better humanity's future. After questioning residents Farber (Bob Balaban), Bell (Mary Beth Hurt), Dury (Jeffrey Wright), and five nameless smokers, Heep discovers the author, Vick Ran (M. Night Shyamalan), who is writing The Cookbook, containing views and ideas so significant they will inspire a future President, a great Midwestern orator, to greatly change the world for the better. Ran meeting Story eliminates his fear and sharpens his inner voice, but he learns he will be assassinated due to the controversial nature of his ideas.

Lady in the Water was about a future assassination of someone with strong budding political beliefs that had not yet been expressed. She meets the man and tells him the future, and he gets to choose what kind of message to put out before getting shot, pretty much. She is from another dimension.

it also refers to the Rhinemaidens in the Ring cycle.
They foretell doom as well.

http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/202253/1/The-Rhine-Maidens,-From-Siegfried-And-The-Twilight-Of-The-Gods-By-Richard-Wagner,-1911.jpg

there is also Ophelia, from Shakespeare's Hamlet,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophelia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Ophelia_1894.jpg/220px-Ophelia_1894.jpg

and then there is the Lady of Shalott, from Tennyson's poem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lady_of_Shalott
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/John_William_Waterhouse_The_Lady_of_Shalott.jpg/350px-John_William_Waterhouse_The_Lady_of_Shalott.jpg


She is a spirit who foretells doom, a spirit of the water, maybe the Morgans or one of the sea goddesses. Or Muses.

[marlowe]

My original thread on name meanings has gone over 65 K views...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94579

Seymour {English} Descendent of Seamer {sea,famous};One who cane from Seamer {Lake /Sea}in Yorkshire.;/One who came from St. Maur [black] in France.

Philip {English} Lover of horses.

Hoffman {German} One who worked a large farm ,either as owner or manager.

all above from the New Dictionary of American family Names.

I do believe TPTB are doing ceremonial Black magic on a global scale....Which includes engineering large earthquakes on certain dates.....The 2010 Sept 4th Christchurch quake happened on a Scientology Holiday ,and also the killer Christchurch on Feb 22,2011.{ditto...}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_holidays

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Hi, Marlowe!

A lot of bad crap happened 3/11/11.
Earthquake and a shooting? etc.
And the celebration of "Inle gallery" art exhibit with the black rabbit in all the paintings,
was 3/11/11

I don't like numbers crap but 3 + (1+1) + (1+1) = 322 :( lol

not cool is it!

[marlowe]

Hi, Marlowe!

A lot of bad crap happened 3/11/11.
Earthquake and a shooting? etc.
And the celebration of "Inle gallery" art exhibit with the black rabbit in all the paintings,
was 3/11/11

I don't like numbers crap but 3 + (1+1) + (1+1) = 322 :( lol

not cool is it!

Hey Tesla.....I'm not into numbers when they get too complicated but I like codes....

Back in December I thought I was seeing codes in the full page ads in the New York Times.....Long story short I thought there was going to be a gigantic false flag on January 24 in New York City......I couldn't believe it when nothing happened on that Friday 1/24/14.......However I noticed the Dow lost over 300 points that Friday.....& it does appear at this date that the markets have been going mostly down since 1/24/14....2 small up days and 6 solid down days......So I think we are going into a economic meltdown at this early stage ...Time will tell....:-(

[chocolate]

Thank you,Tesla_WTC_Solution, for outlining your opinion.
I remember the moment I heard of the death of Philip Seymour Hoffman, in my mind there were traces of what I had read about his future work on "Ezekiel Moss". I tend to follow such news.
Anyone can choose to 'believe' he was an addict and that is what killed him. It is so much easier to 'believe' that.

I wouldn't go into the numbers, it is much more obvious than numerical calculus.

I don't care for Hunger Games, so haven't seen him in that 'show'. And it doesn't matter which show he was a part of. He has been a person who wanted to do something, to be someone, to keep walking, to live and enjoy. He just had chosen a dangerous ground for himself.

Who gives the right to another to turn someone into a 'news column', or into a ritual statement? Who!?
We do, being so ignorant.

Hunger Games!? Indeed. We let them perform a spectacle while we observe with induced interest in our eyes, and we let them also use us as part of it, too. We need to just take a very good look at what the Hunger Games are saying, and than look around.

It is so loud that we can't hear it anymore.

I usually try not to be a part of the news monster, but that thread is different. It speaks about the truth.

[chocolate]

And, of course there is this side of the story:
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/04/49-bags-the-philip-seymour-hoffman-conspiracy/
or the missing link between Philip Seymour Hoffman and 'the bad' Scientology.


Other reports from NYC police claim Hoffman was harbouring no less than 70 bags of heroin. 70 bags? Was he a major supplier for the elite celebrity smack community? Unless he was stocking up for a rainy day. Perhaps his dealer had to leave in a hurry, and dropped the stash at Phil’s?


Of course, the conspiracy mill is churning as we speak, including one which is doing the rounds regarding Hoffman’s incredible depiction – or parody (whichever way you look at it), of the late father of the Church of Scientology and author of Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard, in the 2012 film entitled, The Master. Hoffman made scores of brilliant film in his career but this one was unique. It was also a film that Scientologists tried to stop from being made.


The fact that Scientology has been subject to a number of investigations and probes into what some describe as a highly organized international criminal racketeering operation that carries out sanctioned intimidation, harassment, beatings, abortions and imprisonment – does not really help their reputation.


According to the tell-all book released in 2013 entitled, Warjac: Most Wanted, by author Greg Swaim, son of the legendary late mob hit man Dale Cline, aka James John Warjac, Liston was murder by a forced lethal heroin overdose, which is well-known as a popular mob execution technique. If a dose was cooked to be lethal – then it would kill almost instantly, and with the needle still left in the arm.


“The Scientology parody film The Master, two of its actors are dead so far. This first was Christopher Evan Welch who plays the sceptic in the film dies in Dec 2013. The second is Philip Seymour Hoffman who played a parody of L.Ron Hubbard died Feb 2014. This is a ritualistic revenge by the Scientology and illuminati for insulting their religion. How many more “overdose” celebrities is it going to take before people wake up”. an so forth.

It seems so convenient.

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And, of course there is this side of the story:
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/04/49-bags-the-philip-seymour-hoffman-conspiracy/
or the missing link between Philip Seymour Hoffman and 'the bad' Scientology.


Other reports from NYC police claim Hoffman was harbouring no less than 70 bags of heroin. 70 bags? Was he a major supplier for the elite celebrity smack community? Unless he was stocking up for a rainy day. Perhaps his dealer had to leave in a hurry, and dropped the stash at Phil’s?


Of course, the conspiracy mill is churning as we speak, including one which is doing the rounds regarding Hoffman’s incredible depiction – or parody (whichever way you look at it), of the late father of the Church of Scientology and author of Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard, in the 2012 film entitled, The Master. Hoffman made scores of brilliant film in his career but this one was unique. It was also a film that Scientologists tried to stop from being made.


The fact that Scientology has been subject to a number of investigations and probes into what some describe as a highly organized international criminal racketeering operation that carries out sanctioned intimidation, harassment, beatings, abortions and imprisonment – does not really help their reputation.


According to the tell-all book released in 2013 entitled, Warjac: Most Wanted, by author Greg Swaim, son of the legendary late mob hit man Dale Cline, aka James John Warjac, Liston was murder by a forced lethal heroin overdose, which is well-known as a popular mob execution technique. If a dose was cooked to be lethal – then it would kill almost instantly, and with the needle still left in the arm.


“The Scientology parody film The Master, two of its actors are dead so far. This first was Christopher Evan Welch who plays the sceptic in the film dies in Dec 2013. The second is Philip Seymour Hoffman who played a parody of L.Ron Hubbard died Feb 2014. This is a ritualistic revenge by the Scientology and illuminati for insulting their religion. How many more “overdose” celebrities is it going to take before people wake up”. an so forth.

It seems so convenient.

You did some epic research there, thank you.
I wasn't sure if this man had known enemies.
It appears that he did offend some folks.

My red flag went way up the flagpole this a.m.,
I woke up and went to the hall bathroom,
and though, "Gee, Sundance Film Fest might be the worst place on earth to tell someone your personal business",
meaning, Philip was going around telling strangers (and media hounds) about his heroin addiction at Sundance.

Couldn't it be possible that someone unscrupulous heard this, and used the information to his advantage against our man Hoffman? I mean, isn't that the sort of place you might run into a bad element? NARCS and cultists in the same hand.


(P.s. there is a Hoffman on the placard at Whitman mission in Walla Walla -- those people were a sacrifice too -- they were working with the native people, and gosh, someone went and pissed off the natives (Cayuse) -- before anyone knew what was happening, the Whitmans were dead and the Oregon volunteers came up to slaughter the Cayuse and Walla Walla...

Now a huge Masonic monument stands on top of their hill, where in the past there was life and laughter.
It is rumored that someone put strychnine into the medication and food that the Whitmans were trying to give to the natives.

Vulcan is the god of poisoners. His emblem is the anvil, hammer and tongs. His identity is not known to all.)

[Spiral of Light]

I am off to bed but before I go. I have to say Tesla you are, beautiful, talented and a blessing here at Avalon. your passion speaks volumes!

Much love to you, dear one!
Julia

And I second that motion! :~)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I am off to bed but before I go. I have to say Tesla you are, beautiful, talented and a blessing here at Avalon. your passion speaks volumes!

Much love to you, dear one!
Julia

And I second that motion! :~)

Thank you for your support;
don't forget to thank the gods!! lol

@_@ I can't see past the end of my nose without divine intervention.
But some of these actors and directors heard pretty clearly,
and I hate it when the messenger gets shot...

https://imageshack.com/a/img841/9817/n1iw.png

Story of Jacob Hoffman's brave death at Whitman Mission


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson's_Bay_Company
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitman_massacre

A common practice among the Columbia Plateau tribes was that the doctor, or shaman, could be killed in retribution if patients died. It is probable that the Cayuse and Umatilla held Dr. Whitman responsible for the numerous deaths and therefore felt justification to take his life as per their custom. It was believed that Whitman had treated the Cayuse with strychnine by the tribe[4][5] or that someone from the Hudson Bay Co. had injected strychnine into the medicine after Whitman had given it to the tribe.[6]

“Jacob Hoffman, with two other men, was butchering a beef that afternoon for the mission tables. When the Indians had gradually sifted in and loitered about the butchering, these men thought that the Cayuses had come to get the entrails and other wastes from the animal as was their custom. But they were wrong in their guess about the Indians’ intentions; now Hoffman died, furiously defending himself to the last with an ax.” [Shallow Grave At Waiilatpu: The Sagers West by Erwin N. Thompson, The Press of the Oregon Historical Society, Portland, Oregon, 1985 p.97]

“But at the butchering derrick Hoffman took up an ax and made a stubborn defense, slashing an assailant in the foot, almost reaching the mission house before he was cut down by mounted Cayuse.” [The Great Command by Nard Jones; Little, Brown and Company, Boston 1959 p.332]

“Mr. Hoffman was butchering a beef. He fought manfully with an axe, and was seen keeping six Indians at bay. He split one of his assailant’s feet open. He fell at last overpowered. They ripped him open and took his bowels out.” [The Whitman Massacre of 1847 by Catherine, Elizabeth & Matilda Sager, Ye Galleon Press, Fairfield, WA 1986 Catherine p.46]

Thirteen of the 72 individuals at the mission were killed that first day. These included: Narcissa Whitman, Andrew Rogers, Jacob Hoffman, the schoolmaster L.W. Sanders, Mr. Marsh, John Sager, Francis Sager, Nathan Kimball, Isaac Gilliland, and Young Jr. Peter Hall, who had also escaped the original massacre, later disappeared and was never seen again.

“On our arrival at Oregon City, Joe Stanfield was arrested on suspicion of having taken part in the massacre and brought to trial. On being taken by the sheriff, he attempted to conceal a watch belonging to Mrs. Kimball and a considerable sum of money belonging to Mr. Hoffman.” [The Whitman Massacre of 1847 by Catherine, Elizabeth & Matilda Sager, Ye Galleon Press, Fairfield, WA 1986 Catherine p.88]

Bones were found in 1897 when leveling ground for a monument. Matilda Sager helped to identify some of them… “the skull with the unusually large nose orifice, we felt sure was that of Mr. Hoffman as he was the only man in the settlement having a very large nose.” [The Whitman Massacre of 1847 by Catherine, Elizabeth and Matilda Sager, Ye Galleon Press, Fairfield, WA 1986 Matilda Sager p.150]


At some point during the massacre, old Tenino chief Beardy, who must have been visiting the Waillatpu village, arrived on the scene and tried to stop the Cayuse from slaughtering any more people.

The Tenino people lived just east of the Cascades, west of the Cayuse neighbours the Umatillo.

Beardy knew that this massacre would cause trouble for all the Indians east of the Cascade Mountains.

The Frenchman


Joe Stanfield was a French-Canadian who had been working for Dr. Whitman. Perhaps due to his ancestry he was not targeted by the attackers.


Did You Know?

photo of Alice Clarissa's memorial marker
On her 29th birthday Narcissa gave birth to a daughter, Alice Clarissa. The Cayuse called her “Cayuse Te-mi” (Cayuse girl) because she was born on Cayuse land. Some historians see her as a potential bridge between the two cultures. Unfortunately Alice Clarissa drowned when she was 2 years old.


Jacob Hoffman was the only man to raise a hand in defense of all the women and children, though miller Walter Marsh might have tried to help him; his body was found nearby.

Hoffman grabbed the axe that had been used in the butchering of the beef and fought back, dodging repeated Indian thrusts in a retreat to the corner of the mission house, where horsemen with lances finally cut him down.
In his final blow, he wounded Tamsuky in the foot.

Wow.
Weird how history sort of repeats.

The dead wouldn't rest:


On Tuesday, the day following the attack, Joe Stanfield dug a shallow, mass grave near the mission cemetery north of the mission house. On the same day, Father Brouillet, one of the priests whose arrival in the vicinity a few weeks earlier had so greatly disturbed Dr. Whitman, reached Waiilatpu. Horrified by the scene of death and destruction, Brouillet helped Stanfield prepare the dead. Rendering "to those unfortunate victims the last service in my power to offer them," Brouillet officiated at the burial. A few days later wild animals disturbed the shallow grave, and it had to be covered again. In March 1848 the remains, which again had been disturbed by wolves, were placed in a new grave and covered with an upturned wagon bed by the Oregon Volunteers. On the 50th anniversary of the massacre, the bodies were disinterred and reburied in a more fitting tomb, where they lie today.
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/hh/37/images/hh37r1.jpg


At dawn the next morning, a cluster of Cayuse women on the hill east of the mission chanted a death song -- the same song that Stickas' two wives had sung the night before the massacre.

Standing on that hill is quite a sight. But so sad.

[chocolate]

I usually try to distance myself from the common view on Masons being the 'bad guys'. They have knowledge that is available to all of us right now, to a great degree. The difference is they have the knowledge, and they use it. We seem to just collect it and it stays somewhere on a shelf. Not only that, but we don't apply what we know in our understanding and evaluation of events to actually see what is happening (not referring to the forum, but to the more general part of the world where people walk as if in trans, sometimes).

I met a person who wanted to direct a film with a subject similar to Noah, or Ezekiel Moss. I am, or should I say I was, an avid supporter of that idea, and that person.
But having seen what happens in general in the US film grounds, I think I would prefer to see people walk alive and happy rather to see them gain popularity in one way or another. But at the same time the danger shouldn't cloud the vision, so it is a balancing act.

Tesla, you are great, and it is always a pleasure to read your posts.
I did nothing much in this case, just observed how the wheel was turning.
:)

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I usually try to distance myself from the common view on Masons being the 'bad guys'. They have knowledge that is available to all of us right now, to a great degree. The difference is they have the knowledge, and they use it. We seem to just collect it and it stays somewhere on a shelf. Not only that, but we don't apply what we know in our understanding and evaluation of events to actually see what is happening (not referring to the forum, but to the more general part of the world where people walk as if in trans, sometimes).

I met a person who wanted to direct a film with a subject similar to Noah, or Ezekiel Moss. I am, or should I say I was, an avid supporter of that idea, and that person.
But having seen what happens in general in the US film grounds, I think I would prefer to see people walk alive and happy rather to see them gain popularity in one way or another. But at the same time the danger shouldn't cloud the vision, so it is a balancing act.

Tesla, you are great, and it is always a pleasure to read your posts.
I did nothing much in this case, just observed how the wheel was turning.
:)

Hi!

Well, coming from a military family, I can say that some people view the lodge with mixed feelings.
My father's father and his father before him managed a very large farm, without much help from neighbors.
It would have been easier with friends, but somehow, the fact that they managed their own household was a source of pride.

God never meant for us to climb over each other to get to the top of the world.
In the same way, we are also expected to be able to stand alone against adversity.
If there are forces in our world which demand a united front, perhaps our mistake is acknowledging them at all.
Money, power, fame, popularity -- those things.

But to educate, to give freely of one's knowledge, without strings or a price attached to that knowledge,
that is standing tall.
Anyone who can make a difference in someone else's life -- either through his honesty, or his storytelling, or the example of his passing, is worthy of respect.
Because he gives of himself to strengthen others.

He is not a stone unto himself, but rather, the cement that binds all stones -- love of the art for the sake of the people, and no more or less.

To put away his memory with honor, is the greatest tribute anyone could give now that he is gone.

What we know is that he was not alone in death -- he was in the company of others when last seen,
and this has happened to far too many people over the last 100 years for us viewers to just sit back and enjoy the show...

Even if it was just an OD, the people who gave him the drugs ruined the Super Bowl for pretty much everyone.
Just like when my dad died. And you know what's sick?

The drug dealer who sold my dad the stuff that killed him came to the funeral and tried to make my mother feel responsible for the death.
So... moral of the story... see something, say something.

Drug dealers need to go down in flames, along with everyone who enables them.
People like Michael Jackson's Mason doctor, for example -- they abuse their holy authority to supply the vices of demons.
If I had been Michael's doctor, I would have advised him to take a vacation,
but the doctor wasn't there to take care of Michael, was he?

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/memento-mori.jpg

Not everyone thinks death is beautiful, deserved, or just -- even to make a point.
That would be murder.

How many stars need to die in the street because of people making money off of drugs that should be legally prescribed?


edit: re: the knowledge of the Masons. I really love lots of movies, etc. and games of today. For example, Morrowind/Elder Scrolls. Obvious ref to Masonry etc. in those games. But -- if our world was really that messed up, would we want to be a hero there? I kind of think lots of us would end up like Caius Cosades...

Caius Cosades would be played by someone just like Philip Seymour Hoffman. He is a Blades agent (Morrowind CIA) with a moon sugar problem (ahem coke/heroin) who introduces the Fool to the Pilgrim's Path.

I don't really like the place on the path where Mr. Hoffman got stopped.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Caius_Cosades

Caius Cosades, an Imperial monk residing in Balmora, is the Grand Spymaster of the Blades in Vvardenfell. He's a self-admitted skooma and moon sugar addict. His underlings never mention a skooma problem, and the regular patrons of the South Wall Cornerclub have noticed that he holds his skooma better than even a Khajiit would. They have also noticed that people who judged him only on his appearance "aren't with us anymore". In your last conversation with him he mentions his superiors being concerned about his "sugar". Nevertheless, there is an impressive amount of skooma and moon sugar in his house and on his person. He wears cheap common pants with matching shoes and a belt. He also carries five samples of moon sugar.

http://images.uesp.net/thumb/e/ef/MW-npc-Caius_Cosades.jpg/600px-MW-npc-Caius_Cosades.jpg

Ain't that weird? lol

Near the end of the Nerevarine storyline, Caius sadly disappears back to the Imperial City, never to be seen again by the player.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Campanella_Civitas_Solis.jpg

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back to 'reality' lol

CNN


Final hours
Police are trying to piece together the actor's movements last weekend as they look for anyone who might be linked to the drugs that apparently killed him.
On Tuesday, a law enforcement source told CNN that the night before Hoffman died, he withdrew $1,200 from a grocery store ATM near his apartment.
Hoffman got the money in six transactions Saturday night, according to the source.

A witness told investigators he saw the Oscar-winning actor talking to two men wearing messenger bags about 8 p.m.

Police are also reviewing surveillance video, including video of a restaurant where Hoffman had brunch Saturday morning with two people.

telling strangers his business (or was this John lying?)


Magazine writer John Arundel said he met the actor at the Sundance Film Festival in Utah two weeks before his death.
"I said, 'What do you do?' And at that point, he took off his hat and he said, 'I'm a heroin addict,'" Arundel said.

"Didn't look like he was (joking). Seemed like he was having one of those 'coming to God' moments -- where it just stuck him as, 'this is the revelatory moment.'"

But actor George Clooney said he had dinner with Hoffman a few months ago, and he seemed fine.

"I have to say he seemed in pretty good shape," Clooney said. "I mean, there's no way to explain it."

Dimming the lights on Wodan's Day for Phil?


Dim the lights
Family and close friends of the actor will hold a private funeral service in New York. Plans are also under way for a memorial service later this month. No information on the dates was available.

On Wednesday night, the famed Broadway theater district will dim its marquees for one minute at 7:45 p.m. in Hoffman's memory.
Hoffman appeared on Broadway three times.

3 times, the triple God/goddess, the Hermes/Hecate/Odin
Creepy tribute huh?
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Broadway to dim marquee lights for Philip Seymour Hoffman
By Marc Snetiker on Feb 3, 2014 at 2:00PM @MarcSnetiker

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New York’s acting community will dim the lights of Broadway theater marquees for exactly one minute on Wednesday at 7:45 p.m. in remembrance of Philip Seymour Hoffman, who died early Sunday morning at age 46.

In addition to his celebrated film career, Hoffman was a thoroughly accomplished stage actor and director, serving as a former Artistic Director of Off Broadway’s LAByrinth Theater Company, where he directed and appeared in a number of well-received productions.

Hoffman appeared on Broadway three times, each performance earning the actor both Tony and Drama Desk Award nominations. 2000 marked his first appearance, opposite John C. Reilly in True West (the duo alternated their roles during the run, each earning a Tony nod for Best Actor in a Play). In 2003, he starred in the revival of Long Day’s Journey Into Night alongside Vanessa Redgrave, Brian Dennehy, and Robert Sean Leonard. Most recently, Hoffman took the stage as Willy Loman in director Mike Nichols’ Tony-winning 2012 revival of Arthur Miller’s Death of a Salesman, opposite Andrew Garfield and Linda Emond.

“Philip Seymour Hoffman, a three-time Tony Award nominee, was a true artist who loved the theatre,” said Charlotte St. Martin of the Broadway League. “His prolific body of work encompassed various mediums including theatre, film, and television, and we’ll always be grateful for his boundless and profound talent that he shared with us on the Broadway stage. Our thoughts go out to his family, friends, and fans.”


"Who shall rule this city?" Astor Place Riot cry
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http://www.examiner.com/article/dimming-the-lights-playbill-explains-the-process-of-dimming-broadway-marquees

Dimming the lights: Playbill explains the process of dimming Broadway marquees


March 25, 2011
Tonight at 8:00 PM, Broadway theaters will dim their marquee lights to honor Elizabeth Taylor, who passed away Wednesday at the age of 79. But what are the criteria for receiving such an honor? Last fall, Playbill.com gave a glimpse into the process.

"The simultaneous dimming of all the Broadway marquees in honor of the passing of a prominent theatre professional is one of the more touching and elegant of New York theatre traditions, and perhaps the ultimate recognition that a person has achieved a place in theatre history," said Robert Simonson, writer for Playbill.com. He went on to explain that the decision to dim the marquee lights is made by the Broadway League. The League is the trade-association for the industry that works to create interest in Broadway theatre and supports the creation of profitable productions on Broadway. The actual process of choosing who to dim the lights for remains confidential to prevent people from lobbying to have the process done for someone. To learn more about the history of dimming the Broadway lights, read Mr. Simonson's full Ask Playbill.com article.

Elizabeth Taylor starred with James Dean and Rock Hudson in the film Giant.

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http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/freemasons.htm

Freemasons
Roots & Links to the Occult
By Teresa Morris

"Freemasonry is not Christianity, nor a substitute for it. It does not meddle with sectarian creeds or doctrines, but teaches fundamental religious truth." (Albert G. Mackey, "Encyclopedia of Freemasonry," page 162)

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 104)
"Drop the theological barnacles [timeless Biblical truths] from the religion of Jesus, as taught by Him, and by the Essenes and Gnostics of the first centuries, and it becomes Masonry, Masonry in its purity, derived as it is from the old Hebrew Kaballa as a part of the great universal religion of the remotest antiquity." (J. D. Buck, "Mystic Masonry," page 119)


Ezekiel 11: 1

Moreover the spirit lifted me up, and brought me unto the east gate of the LORD'S house, which looketh eastward: and behold at the door of the gate five and twenty men; among whom I saw Jaazaniah the son of Azur, and Pelatiah the son of Benaiah, princes of the people.

Ezekiel 8:14

Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

http://0.tqn.com/d/gocalifornia/1/7/M/V/3/20110811_014-a.jpg

I can't support it. :(
p.s. Cain and Abel, Abel - Tammuz, who was the child not favored?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammuz_(deity)

What Ezekiel said

In Babylonia, the month Tammuz was established in honor of the eponymous god Tammuz, who originated as a Sumerian shepherd-god, Dumuzid or Dumuzi, the consort of Inanna and, in his Akkadian form, the parallel consort of Ishtar. The Levantine Adonis ("lord"), who was drawn into the Greek pantheon, was considered by Joseph Campbell among others to be another counterpart of Tammuz,[1] son and consort. The Aramaic name "Tammuz" seems to have been derived from the Akkadian form Tammuzi, based on early Sumerian Damu-zid.[citation needed] The later standard Sumerian form, Dumu-zid, in turn became Dumuzi in Akkadian. Tamuzi also is Dumuzid or Dumuzi.

Beginning with the summer solstice came a time of mourning in the Ancient Near East, as in the Aegean: the Babylonians marked the decline in daylight hours and the onset of killing summer heat and drought with a six-day "funeral" for the god. Recent discoveries reconfirm him as an annual life-death-rebirth deity: tablets discovered in 1963 show that Dumuzi was in fact consigned to the Underworld himself, in order to secure Inanna's release,[2] though the recovered final line reveals that he is to revive for six months of each year (see below).

In cult practice, the dead Tammuz was widely mourned in the Ancient Near East. Locations associated in antiquity with the site of his death include both Harran and Byblos, among others. A Sumerian tablet from Nippur (Ni 4486) reads:


She can make the lament for you, my Dumuzid, the lament for you, the lament, the lamentation, reach the desert — she can make it reach the house Arali; she can make it reach Bad-tibira; she can make it reach Dul-šuba; she can make it reach the shepherding country, the sheepfold of Dumuzid

"O Dumuzid of the fair-spoken mouth, of the ever kind eyes," she sobs tearfully, "O you of the fair-spoken mouth, of the ever kind eyes," she sobs tearfully. "Lad, husband, lord, sweet as the date, [...] O Dumuzid!" she sobs, she sobs tearfully.[3]

These mourning ceremonies were observed even at the very door of the Temple in Jerusalem in a vision the Israelite prophet Ezekiel was given, which serves as a Biblical prophecy which expresses YHWH's message at His people's apostate worship of idols:


"Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. Then said he unto to me, 'Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these." —Ezekiel 8:14-15

Ezekiel's testimony is the only direct mention of Tammuz in the Hebrew Bible.

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http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/2012/05/screenplay-review-ezekiel-moss.html

WEDNESDAY, MAY 30, 2012

Screenplay Review - Ezekiel Moss

Genre: Supernatural Drama
Premise: Set during the Depression, a widow and her son are visited by a strange man who may have the ability to communicate with the dead.
About: This is the writer’s breakthrough screenplay. Before this, he was one of the writers on the HBO show, “In Treatment.” He’s repped over at CAA. Ezekiel Moss finished high on last year’s Black List.
Writers: Keith Bunin
Details: 104 pages – Black List draft

I’ve been meaning to read Ezekiel Moss for awhile but everybody keeps telling me, “It’s a good script but really slow.” That “but” was the killer. You don’t want any “buts” before you pick up a script. You want “ands.” You want “thens.” But please, no “buts.”

But it turns out the slowness of Ezekiel Moss hit a reading sweet spot for me. I was heading home from LA. And since I find it impossible to do multiple things on travel days, I basically had one task – to read a script. It was one of those rare times when I wasn’t rushed. The script was slow-developing? Fine with me. I had hours to spare.

Add to that the melancholy feeling you get when going home after a trip and I was in the perfect mood for this story. You’ve spent the last month of your life preparing for something, and then one day it’s just….over. It’s like “What do I do now?” You feel kind of empty. Yet “empty” is the perfect mood to read Ezekiel Moss in. The characters in this script are all empty. They need something to fill up their lives. And little do they know, that something is each other.

It’s 1934, the heart of the Depression. It’s a small town, too small “for anyone to care about the name” according to the writer. 11 year old Joel Carson has a giant imagination and zero friends. He lives with his widowed mother, Iris, an emotionally fragile woman, in the tiny Inn she runs. Iris finds occasional moments of happiness sleeping with the salesman who stop by her Inn every week. She hates herself for it, but if not for that, she’d be too lonely for words.

The thing with Iris’ job is that it’s predictable to the point of boredom. The faces may change, but it’s the same travelling salesmen, the same practiced smiles, the same broken promises. That is until the darkly intense Ezekiel Moss shows up with his witch-like partner, Hepzibah Webb.

The two ask to stay in one of her rooms for a week and they come with two stipulations – stay out of their way and don’t ask questions. Iris knows something is up but a girl’s gotta put food on the table so as long as it doesn’t incriminate her, they can do whatever they want.

Joel finds the odd but vulnerable Ezekiel fascinating, and starts following him around, trying to figure out what it is he and Hepzibah do. It turns out they travel from town to town to find people who’ve lost loved ones. And that’s where things get interesting. Ezekiel has a special talent – he can allow spirits to possess his body. He can allow the dead to speak to the living. Or, at least, that’s what he and Hepzibah claim.

After seeing one of these possessions himself, Joel is a believer, and he runs to his mother to tell her what’s going on. But because Joel’s imagination has always been so outrageous, Iris doesn’t believe him. Nor does she want to believe him, as she’s begun to fall for Ezekiel.

While all that’s going on, the town priest gets wind of Ezekiel. He’s heard of these two. They’re wanted in towns all over the region for conning people out of money at a time when money is most in need. It’s time to put a stop to this.

The thing is, all Ezekiel wants is to be normal, is to not live with this curse. And if this priest tells him he can save his soul, Ezekiel’s ready to take that chance. He now has a child who looks up to him and a woman who’s falling for him. If he can be “normal,” then maybe he can be part of a real family for once. In a way, that’s his goal, even if deep down he knows it will never happen.

Did I mention Ezekiel was slow? Yeah, reading it feels like every two pages should be one. But it still works! Why? Because the character development here is freaking top-notch. I mean take a look at Iris. Here’s a woman who was soul-mate in love with her husband before losing him. During the accident, he shielded her to save her, ensuring his own death in the process. She was pregnant with Joel at the time. Which means there are moments, moments she’d never admit out loud, where she wishes he would’ve lived instead of Joel. She seeks closeness from the company of other men, even though they’re gone before she wakes up. The entire town calls her a whore behind her back. She’s poor, can barely pay the bills. She ignores the one sense of community the town has – church, alienating herself even more. I mean that’s a f*cking complex character! A sympathetic character. The kind of person you want to know more about.

But what’s great about Ezekiel is that everyone has a deep backstory – specifically about someone they lost. And while in most stories, these tropes can become cliché and eye-roll worthy, here, they’re intricate parts of the plot. Because Ezekiel can speak to the dead, he can bring these figures back. The characters can resolve their issues with these ghosts. That was my favorite part about Ezekiel. People’s backstories actually mattered!

Another reason the slow-build works is that Bunin uses very simple but effective storytelling methods to keep you interested. First there’s the arrival of Ezekiel Moss. Everything about this man is interesting. You want to know more. You want to turn the page to see who he is and what he’s about.

Once you do find out, there’s a new mystery: “What are Ezekiel and Hepzibah doing here? What’s their business?” And as you gradually figure that out, a threat presents itself – the priest. People are closing in on Ezekiel. Their business is in danger (conflict). So even though everything’s moving along at a deliberate pace, Bunin seems to use just the right amount of suspense or conflict or mystery to keep us involved.

With that said, we could definitely move things along faster. Bunin has a terrible habit of commenting after every line of dialogue. And not just commenting – but giving a really detailed comment that just sucks up page real estate. For example, later in the script, Ezekiel is speaking to Iris and says, “Don’t you hope that someday you’ll get married?” Immediately afterwards we get this action line: “Ezekiel is asking this question for all kinds of reasons. Iris is deeply affected but she still keeps things light.”

I mean, just get to Iris’ response! That entire action line has already been implied. This is done ENDLESSLY throughout the script and if Bunin could cut out 75% of these lines, the script would fly. Right now, it’s in danger of being tossed because of Hollywood’s ADD epidemic. And that’s too bad. Because it’s a very powerful story.

For those interested in writing supernatural/horror movies, Ezekiel Moss is a good script to study. The character development is top notch. BECAUSE it’s top notch, the dialogue’s strong (a great understanding of character usually results in strong unique dialogue for each character). And then everything just feels authentic – not easy to do when you’re setting your story 80 years ago. I really liked this. Speed it up a little and maybe we have something great.

[ ] what the hell did I just read?
[ ] wasn’t for me
[xx] worth the read
[ ] impressive
[ ] genius

What I learned: Beware character descriptions that contradict themselves. I see this all the time for some reason. “Joe is intelligent yet a bit of an imbecile.” “Linda is one of those people who’s both happy and miserable.” Uhhh, what does that mean? Which one am I supposed to go with? Remember, writing a character description is not about it reading cool on the page – it’s about conveying the character as clearly as possible to the reader. So here in Ezekiel, Iris is described as having a “winning mixture of toughness and fragility.” I suppose you can make an argument that this makes sense but to me it’s just confusing. All I want to know is “Who is this character?” And that line doesn’t tell me. Go for clear. Readers like clear.

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Tesla, I am your friend for life! :)
You know, speaking about scripts, I have seen some really ****ty ones. You wouldn't believe your brain cells when you read them.

Right now lollywood doesn't suffer from ADD (attention deficit disorder, right?), it suffers from a condition whereby every script that is in any danger of becoming a full-bodied film gets weight and evaluated by some really obscure standards (done by some really obscure people) such as comparisons between possible endings and the reaction of the audience over the amount of money given for prep or for act.
I will no disclose details, but the reality is quite grim.
It is all about wages and profits, percentage, ratings, and very little about philosophy and ideology. Actually the overall ideology trend is to make us numb and to kill all desire for mental/spiritual/ or otherwise normal human development.

People like the Washowski Brothers or James Cameron can afford to be outside the rule to a good extend, but even they have to comply with some rules or someone's standards, I suppose.
So, I guess when a person is on his way to becoming another of the previously mentioned, well he has to be ready to take a possible hit.
The addiction problem is a common trend in the industry. It is a very hard area to work in, for starters, with some un-human conditions at times, so even if no one introduces you to drugs, alcohol or other forbidden substances or practices, you could very quickly and easily discovered them on your own as a possible companion on your long walk through.

I was saddened by the news of Philip Seymour Hoffman's death, but was little surprised. I actually couldn't recall at first any film where I had seen him act.

I wonder if anyone thought about the possible popularity the next Hunger Games will gain from his death. If anyone remembers Heath Ledger and his Joker will understand my point.

It is also possible someone to use the noise to bring attention exactly to Ezekiel Moss as a possible film, and later to either benefit greatly from that same noise/attention, or to crate a really twisted version of it. Unfortunately we will never see what version Philip Seymour Hoffman was going to do.
The worst thing of negative media exposure is not having that expose at all.

I hope wherever Philip Seymour Hoffman is right now, in spirit or soul form, that he has found some peace and quiet.

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Well, my husband put in a movie so we could relax, and it just so happens, Mission Impossible 3.

:( I look up at the intro screen after a few minutes of annoying MIuzak, then Mr. Hoffman's face appears across a large building like Tom Cruise.

So it's looking like we picked a movie where Hoffman played a baddie against a Scientologist hero. HMMMMMM.
No wonder he got sick of acting and wanted to direct a few himself...

p.s. look at the initials of the character:

Tom Cruise as Ethan Hunt
Philip Seymour Hoffman as Owen Davian, the most infamous black market dealer

"Owen Davian = O.D." :( oops

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Maybe Mr. Hoffman started up on drugs again to expand his consciousness and maybe as a door to go down the rabbit hole too. Unfortunately for him though, he was playing with fire because he's very addictive. I mean sure, he swore off drugs after coming dangerously to the edge in his early 20's. Then for a whopping 23 years, he was drug-free so it's understandable that he probably thought he was immune towards getting addicted again to drugs after such a long dry period like that.

But anyway, he's an artist and he was going to direct a paranormal movie. He's known for plunging in DEEP into every role he's ever played and this follows for directing endeavors too, One of his friends said that Phil's death was the result of a "misadventure". This to me implies that Hoffman's sojourn into heroin had much to do with his own quest for spiritual exploration perhaps even to be used as background research for his upcoming Ezekiel Moss movie. But like I said, he underestimated his addictive personality and consequently he woke up the monster within him and became an addict again.

I don't think he started taking drugs again because he had a craving for them. He chose to start experimenting with them as part of a spiritual quest to come into contact with other worlds. I think someday, we will find out that Hoffman had much interest in the occult. His choice to direct the Ezekiel Moss movie supports that conjecture.

On the other hand, when I first read about his death, and he's one of my most favorite actor's btw, I suspected that there was much more than meets the eye about the intricate details of this story. This man was not a loner and he's even been called the king of Greenwich Village. He was out there on a daily basis making his rounds alone or with his kids, talking to neighbors, eating and drinking at his usual haunts, in short, a man about town whom everyone knew and considered one of their own. But because of his innate nature to plunge into the heart of things, he also sought to get to know the dark side of town too and he was very intrigued by it. This allowed him to connect with drug dealers to supply him with heroin.

I don't think he was alone when he died. I think he was with somebody or maybe even a few people which explains why the NYPD were looking for his suppliers or whoever right from the get-go. I think the police have not informed the public that others were with Hoffman when he died so as to prevent those who were with him from leaving town.
For someone like Hoffman, NO WAY is the police dept. going to spill out the whole story to anyone because once the press gets ahold of it where all of the details are all over the news, their investigation process is ruined before it even begins.

Hoffman was found with a needle still jabbed in his arm. I think someone injected him and then left him to die. He was already out of it when he was injected. Also, amazingly enough, his autopsy results are inconclusive which means that there's more to this story than just heroin. A lot more is going on than what has been reported thus far.

Great thread! I carefully read over each post and I must say, we have a lot of brilliance here in the mind dept. !!

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Another interesting thing.... some of the heroin bags were labeled "Ace of Spade" and has been reported as the one that killed him. Anyway, the Ace of Spade is known as the death card. The irony in that one is just too much to bear.

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and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it.
i.e. they are a bunch of self justifying, "holier than thou" compulsive liars... why can't people see through the con... that's what happens when you compromise the truth... any rationalization will work... and that is the first thing they do before you even join. It is implicit and the basis of their whole social structure. Falsehood and manipulation for self enrichment... the rest is a song and dance of pure occult BS to justify it. No truth. no foundation. Quit getting sucked in by the size of their "wallet"...


There's a lot of assumptions that the story we are getting is "the truth" or accurate because that's what the "Police Report" said... (LOL) I guess there are some people that just don't get it, or will always try and push the BS line. That maybe this one time the main stream is "giving it to us straight goods"... (more LOL) I don't believe ANYTHING from the Main stream media OR what the Police say. They are both TOLD what to say, the police's job is to SERVE and PROTECT (and most should know the hidden Satanic agenda of this organization) If in fact there were other people present, and they don't know who it was... that by definition would be suspicious, and it should be treated as such, and all the "personal information" should have been kept under wraps, until further investigation... but there is not going to be any "further investigation" is there... ???

No they wanted the world to know there were "70 bags of heroin" (That has all the elements of a "meme") I didn't know about the other actor from "The Master" dying (thanks Tesla for sharing that, as I haven't seen it yet) But if it was a spoof on the Scientologists, I would absolutely agree that you have something there. I don't see scientology as anything more then applied psychology. Like learning Linguistic programming, etc. Point is, in order to justify their millions in tax breaks, they are always posing as something else by definition. There in lies the stink of the hypocrisy. If they just called it applied psychology, I wouldn't have any problem. But that would eliminate all the mystique and politics (and tax breaks) And ultimately their huge empire of mind control manipulation. Anyhow, I am more fascinated these days by metaphysics, and gnosticism.

I think both Scientology and Freemasonry are over run by Satanists, whether literal or just greedy, selfish, politically manipulative people who would sell their souls in a heartbeat for money and political power... in Hollywood especially. I like the "scientology conspiracy" theory, I think it has legs. I think they are taking a serious hit in the media since Cruise's wife made her brilliant "escape". Which means they are losing face, which means they are losing millions, which means they are desperate... major karma in a time of awakening... They no longer have a monopoly on "insight into human behaviour"...

And we all know what a bunch of sociopathic control freaks they are when it comes to criticism, and the manipulating of public perception they automatically jump into in response. They openly admit to and are proud of their mind control techniques.

Also I have been listening to a couple of Veritas (Mel Fabrigas) interviews... which reinforces the whole rot that runs through the military and the police as well... up to and including the drug trade and the pedophile rings, all run by the Jesuits at the very top. (Jef Harvey - Naval Intelligence interview = mindblowing) And all this by definition means Freemasons, which is my catch all phrase for Secret Societies. It is endless. Just because they have some "good people" is such a laugh... those "good people" are nothing more then "useful idiots" that allow them to run their charities and dim the lights on the public in the first place...

Whatever happened to Phillip Seymour, one thing you can be sure of... The story spun in the public by the main stream media and the police has to be false by definition. Over exaggerating?... Don't think so. That is just the reality of the world we have been living in for as far as you can see back into history.

The fact we are becoming aware of this, in an increasing number, large enough to overcome the juggernaut of their multi billion dollar controlled media and we are starting to talk about it and it is finally being accepted as truth (i.e the fact that the elite/powerful/superwealthy manipulate the masses) as we inch forward toward a critical mass of consciousness. Now that is historical. That is the beginning of something. That is what counts.

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He played roles that challenged the establishment or that demanded the establishment evolve... like Owen Damian.

Roisin said: Another interesting thing.... some of the heroin bags were labeled "Ace of Spade" and has been reported as the one that killed him. Anyway, the Ace of Spade is known as the death card. The irony in that one is just too much to bear.

Too true, there was a website I saw on the 4th that mentioned the Ace of Spades and Hearts in Tarot, and it wasn't pretty.

Why does this particular death keep reminding me of the tarot, the Pilgrim's path, the stations of the Fool?

:(

Like we're supposed to think "Oh, Philip confronted his Lightning Struck Tower and didn't survive the transformation" etc...

Tower card is right before the Sun, Moon, Stars, World cards, i.e. the Heavenly bodies, recipients of sacrifice.

...


and guys, I KNOW there are good people in the Masons, but unfortunately, even the media is starting to wake up and realize the depth of corruption achievable when men do deeds in darkness.

Don't hide your light under a bushel, let it shine.

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http://www.masonicdictionary.com/hoodwink.html

"HOODWINK"

“Hood” goes back to old German and Anglo Saxon, in which it referred to head covering, as in hat, hood, helmet, etc.; “wink,” in the same languages, meant to close the eyes, “wench,” “wince,” etc., being similarly derived. A hoodwink was therefore a headdress designed to cover the eyes. The popular use of the word is believed to go back to the old sport of falconry, once so popular, in which the falcon had a hood over its eyes until ready to strike at its prey.

- Source: 100 Words in Masonry

A symbol of the secrecy, silence, and darkness in which the mysteries of our art should be preserved from the unhallowed gaze of the profane. It has been supposed to have a symbolic reference to the passage in Saint John's Gospel (I, 5), "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." But it is more certain that there is in the hoodwink a representation of the mystical darkness which always preceded the rites of the ancient initiations.


- Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry

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They are everything that is evil and dark about our present. Sorry.

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The sudden death by apparent overdose of actor Philip Seymour Hoffman stunned Hollywood and left his family, friends, and colleagues shattered. In this week’s cover story, EW pays tribute to Hoffman, widely considered the greatest screen and stage actor of his generation.

Film critic Owen Gleiberman traces the arc of the Oscar-winning actor’s tragically curtailed career, exploring his ability, in role after role, to plumb his own depths to bring often deeply flawed characters to vivid life and to “lay bare the things that make people tick” — an emotionally wrenching process that clearly took a personal toll on the actor. We look back at Hoffman’s 10 most essential film performances — including his acclaimed work in movies like Capote, Doubt, and Boogie Nights, as well as lesser-known gems from throughout his career — and look ahead to the various projects he was working on at the time of his death, including the final installments in the Hunger Games franchise.

Director Brett Ratner, a fellow NYU film school student of Hoffman’s who later worked with the actor on the film Red Dragon, contributes a personal remembrance, while other friends and fellow actors and filmmakers offer their own tributes to Hoffman as both an artist and a man. “He was the warmest, most generous person and just overflowing with love and affection for his friends and family,” says actor Todd Louiso, a longtime friend of Hoffman’s who directed him in the 2002 film Love Liza. “I know the past two years have been really rough for him. To find out [about his death] doesn’t really compute to me. It just shows how strong that disease [of addiction] is.”

This issue of Entertainment Weekly is on stands Friday.

those other actors sure are lippy about addiction... just like the guy who killed my dad selling him poison prescriptions :(

WHY DON'T THESE MEN TALK ABOUT THE DEALERS
BECAUSE THEY ARE PREDATORS NOT ADDICTS

Feb 14th Dad's birthday

Dad, if there's anything weird about this, help us figure it out!
Since both of you died nearly the same way and are terribly missed.

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Interesting:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/06/showbiz/philip-seymour-hoffman-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Woman in Philip Seymour Hoffman probe released until court date
By Shimon Prokupecz, Sheila Steffen and Ray Sanchez, CNN
updated 2:34 PM EST, Thu February 6, 2014

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Juliana Luchkiw, 22, was released on her own recognizance. Max Rosenblum, 22, was to appear in court later Thursday

New York (CNN) -- A 22-year-old fine arts student arrested in connection with the drugs found in actor Philip Seymour Hoffman's apartment was released on her own recognizance Thursday.

Juliana Luchkiw was among four people arrested in a raid Tuesday night in which police recovered 350 small plastic bags of what is believed to be heroin, law enforcement officials told CNN. The bags of alleged heroin were branded "black list" and "red bull" -- not the same brands found in Hoffman's apartment, the officials said.

A police source said the Manhattan apartments where the four were picked up are part of the investigation into Hoffman's death.

The four under investigation in connection with drugs sold to Academy Award-winning actor were identified as Luchkiw; Max Rosenblum, 22; Robert Vineberg, 57; and Thomas Cushman, 48.

The Manhattan district attorney's office Wednesday declined to prosecute Cushman because there was no evidence he had any control over the drugs.

Luchkiw, who pleaded not guilty to a misdemeanor charge of criminal possession of a controlled substance, appeared Thursday before Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Edward McLaughlin on Thursday.

Luchkiw's attorney, Stephen Turano, told the court his client has no criminal record. He said her father, who was present in court, is a lawyer and her mother a doctor.

The prosecution asked for Luchkiw's bail to be set at $1,500, but McLaughlin ordered her released on her own recognizance, saying it was a misdemeanor case and it was "illogical" to assume she would fail show for her February 14 court date.

Luchkiw walked out of court with her father.

Attorney: 'Wrong place at (the) wrong time'

Rosenblum was to appear in court later Thursday. His attorney, Daniel Hochheiser, said his client had an outstanding warrant for a 2010 misdemeanor drug charge but that the warrant was vacated.

Vineberg, who faces a felony charge of criminal possession of a controlled substance, is set to appear in court February 14.

Vineberg was found to have the actor's phone number stored in his cell phone, a law enforcement official told CNN. Police discovered the largest amount of what is believed to be heroin in his apartment, the source said.

A former neighbor described Vineberg as a talented musician who used the stage name Robert Aaron and once toured with Wyclef Jean. Vineberg had a wife and daughter, said the neighbor, who lived in the building years ago.

"He used to practice at night," said the ex-neighbor, recalling that Vineberg played keyboards. "Honestly, he seemed like a nice guy, always playing music. Nothing sinister."
Vineberg's attorney, Edward Kratt, said he hopes prosecutors will not use his client as a scapegoat.

"These charges have absolutely nothing to do with Philip Seymour Hoffman's unfortunate death," Kratt said.

Turano, Luchkiw's attorney, similarly said his client had no connection to Hoffman, other than seeing his movies, and that Luchkiw was simply in the "wrong place at (the) wrong time."

A spokeswoman for the New York medical examiner's office said Wednesday a determination of the cause and manner of Hoffman's death is pending further study, including toxicology reports.

When police were called to Hoffman's fourth-floor Manhattan apartment Sunday, they found the actor lying on the bathroom floor with a syringe in his left arm. He was wearing shorts and a T-shirt, his eyeglasses still resting on his head, according to law enforcement sources familiar with the inquiry.

Investigators discovered close to 50 envelopes of what they believed was heroin in the apartment, the law enforcement sources said. They also found used syringes, prescription drugs and empty plastic bags of a type commonly used to hold drugs, the sources said.

Also found in Hoffman's apartment was his personal journal, resting on a living room TV stand, two law enforcement sources said.

Hoffman's final hours

No fentanyl found

Preliminary tests Tuesday showed the heroin recovered from Hoffman's apartment did not contain fentanyl, a law enforcement official told CNN. More testing will be done.
Fentanyl is a powerful narcotic used to treat cancer patients' pain.

Last week, Maryland officials said heroin tainted with fentanyl had claimed at least 37 lives since September. And last month, at least 22 people in western Pennsylvania died after using heroin mixed with fentanyl.

While results of an autopsy will definitively reveal how Hoffman, 46, died, the role that heroin may or may not have played is a key part of the investigation.

Final hours

Police are trying to piece together the actor's movements last weekend as they look for anyone who might be linked to the drugs that apparently killed him.

A law enforcement source told CNN that the night before Hoffman died, he withdrew $1,200 from a grocery store ATM near his apartment.

Hoffman got the money in six transactions Saturday night, according to the source.

A witness told investigators he saw the actor talking to two men wearing messenger bags about 8 p.m.

Police are also reviewing surveillance video, including that of a restaurant where Hoffman had brunch Saturday morning with two people.

How heroin kills you

Past struggles with drugs

In a 2011 interview with "60 Minutes," Hoffman discussed his past struggles with drug and alcohol addiction.

"Anything I could get my hands on, I liked it all," he said.

Fear, Hoffman said, made him sober up.

"You get panicked. ... I was 22 and I got panicked for my life. It really was, it was just that," he said. "And I always think, 'God, I have so much empathy for these young actors that are 19 and all of a sudden are beautiful and famous and rich.' I'm like, 'Oh my God. I'd be dead.' "

But last year, Hoffman said he'd fallen off the wagon, started taking prescription pills and slipped into snorting heroin, according to TMZ.

Magazine writer John Arundel said he met the actor at the Sundance Film Festival in Utah two weeks before his death.

"I said, 'What do you do?' And at that point, he took off his hat and he said, 'I'm a heroin addict,' " Arundel said.

"Didn't look like he was (joking). Seemed like he was having one of those 'coming to God' moments -- where it just struck him as, 'This is the revelatory moment.' "

But actor George Clooney said he had dinner with Hoffman a few months ago, and he seemed fine.

"I have to say he seemed in pretty good shape," Clooney said. "I mean, there's no way to explain it."

Filmmaker Chris Barrett interviewed Hoffman January 17 at Sundance. "He didn't look well at Sundance. His skin color was very pale, but he wasn't disheveled, as some media was reporting," Barrett told CNN.

Broadway dims lights

Family and close friends of the actor will hold a private funeral service in New York. Plans are also under way for a memorial service later this month. No information on the dates was available.

On Wednesday night, theaters in the famed Broadway district dimmed their marquee lights for one minute at 7:45 in Hoffman's memory.
He appeared on Broadway three times.

Hoffman stayed active on stage even as his star rose in Hollywood. He starred in a Broadway production of "Death of a Salesman" in 2012 and was co-artistic director of the Labyrinth Theater Company in New York.

That company hosted a candlelight vigil Wednesday night.

"I just was really profoundly affected by his death and felt like it was important for me to be here," said Leslie Kritzer, a fellow actor. "I also just think it's important to be here to remind people to have compassion and love for people that are struggling with the disease of addiction."

Kritzer said she had long admired Hoffman from afar.

"He could do the movies, and he did them brilliantly -- better than anyone else -- but he always came back to his roots, and he was a hero for all of us that could only dream of doing what he accomplished," she said.

CNN's Jason Carroll, Brian Vitagliano, Adam Reiss, Faith Karimi and Nischelle Turner contributed to this report.
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He went out to eat that day...

What he ate that day could affect the results of the toxicology.
Please refer to the Dixie Chicks song "Goodbye Earl" for an example of poisoning using black eyed peas to mask cyanide.

#WhatdidHoffmaneatSaturday

Weird that the girl had heroin called "Black List" :( lol


The black-eyed pea alone out of the whole pea family absorbs poison, passes it on, and by some unique chemical process later dissipates every trace of the poison. So it is the food of choice for the perfect crime. This is why it's illegal in 34 states to buy black-eyed peas in bulk without a permit from the sheriff.

also

Potatoes can produce a deadly poison called solanine. This happens when potatoes are stored in sunlight and eventually turn green. The toxic chemical is solanine, a glycoalkaloid, which acts as a cholinesterase inhibitor. This is the same action as nerve gases. So never eat a green potato.
There are many ways to skin a cat :(

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/06/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/philip-seymour-hoffman-broadway/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Philip Seymour Hoffman: Aaron Sorkin, Broadway pay tribute
By Breeanna Hare, CNN
February 6, 2014 -- Updated 1931 GMT (0331 HKT)

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(CNN) -- For one minute on Wednesday night, the marquee lights of Broadway went dark in honor of Philip Seymour Hoffman's memory.

The 46-year-old actor was a respected and vital member of New York's theater community, as was evidenced by the outpouring of mourners who showed up for a candlelight vigil held by the LAByrinth Theatre Company, of which Hoffman was a member and an artistic director.

He was found dead in his New York apartment of an apparent drug overdose Sunday.

The Philip Seymour Hoffman we didn't know

"We come together in a spirit of terrible mourning and incredible loss," LAByrinth member and Jesuit priest Father Jim Martin told the crowd gathered in front of the Bank Street Theater. "But we also come together to celebrate a remarkable life."

Across Hollywood, a number of Hoffman's colleagues are offering similar tributes as they cope with his death.

Philip Seymour Hoffman: Piecing together his final hours

"It's a shock, a total shock," Hoffman's "Hunger Games" co-star Elizabeth Banks told "Extra!" on Wednesday. "He was an incredible actor; everyone respected and loved him. I really enjoyed my time with him. We were playing against each other in Candy Crush just last week. So I'm really, really, really sad."

And to Aaron Sorkin, another venerated creator whose bond with Hoffman cemented during their work on 2007's "Charlie Wilson's War," Hoffman's death may become someone else's saving grace.

In a tribute in Time magazine, Sorkin recalls the "mini-AA meetings" he and Hoffman would have on the Paramount lot while on breaks, stretches of time where they could share stories as fathers of young kids and as recovering drug addicts.

"I told him I felt lucky because I'm squeamish and can't handle needles. He told me to stay squeamish," Sorkin writes. "And he said this: 'If one of us dies of an overdose, probably 10 people who were about to won't.' He meant that our deaths would make news and maybe scare someone clean."

In the end, Sorkin believes, that will be added to his already astonishing history.

"(Hoffman) didn't die because he was partying too hard or because he was depressed -- he died because he was an addict on a day of the week with a 'y' in it," Sorkin said. "He'll have his well-earned legacy -- his Willy Loman that belongs on the same shelf with Lee J. Cobb's and Dustin Hoffman's, his Jamie Tyrone, his Truman Capote and his Academy Award. Let's add to that 10 people who were about to die who won't now."

What a weird thing for Sorkin to say.

"he died because he was an addict on a day of the week with a 'y' in it"

:wacko:


But here at Dakshinkali, on the outskirts of the capital Kathmandu, the Kali Temple arranges Nepal's biggest number of animal sacrifices—hundreds every Saturday and Tuesday, totaling tens of thousands throughout the year.

Other less fabled temples, shrines and courtyards elsewhere in Nepal usually allow the slitting of throats in sacrificial pits on Fridays and Saturdays.


Kali is the Queen of the Night, worshipped by thugs, stranglers, poisoners, and thieves.

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She does get kind of a bad rap.

http://masongoddess.blogspot.com/2008/01/chapter-eleven-goddess-kali.html


Thursday, 10 January 2008

Chapter Eleven - The Goddess Kali

In my research of pre-Christian mystery Religions what I found was that any information about them, mostly comes from those who were opposed to them. So apart from telling us that their rituals involved licentious sexual behaviour they don’t tell us much about them. As paganism was completely destroyed by Christianity in Europe and only survived in coded form in Freemasonry, Rosiccrucism and Alchemy. We have to look to areas of the world were paganism survived, and that is in Hinduism and Taoism, to understand the what were the original Goddess teaching were like.

Although Taoism and Hinduism have been mostly taken over by patriarchy Matriarchal elements still survive in both religions. Within Hinduism it mostly survives in Tantra, and both Taoism and Tantra like the Mystery Religions use sex in their spiritual practices.

The followers of Tantra worship the Goddess Kali. Of all the deities worshipped today, the Goddess Kali has to be the most bizarre and unsettling of them all. What are we to think of a Goddess who is nude, black, has a bloodstained sword in her hand, a necklace of the skulls or heads of men, a skirt of the cut-off arms of men. And is always shown with her tongue sticking out and walking or dancing on the body of a man. To say she is bloodthirsty is an understatement, because in her stories she will massacre whole armies of men or demons. In some stories she gets so drunk on drinking the blood of demons that she starts to massacre the whole of mankind. Though the story goes on to say that the God Siva saves the day by coming to Earth and throwing himself at her feet and thus appeasing her blood lust.
From a Christian point of view, she would be considered an evil Goddess and is even referred to by Christian commentators as a Hindu Devil, but in India she is revered as either “The Mother”, “The Saviour of the World” or “Female World Ruler”. She is worshipped by millions of normal people in India and even by people in Western Countries.

Her devotees claim that she is a very ancient Goddess, who is worshipped all over the world under different names. Even today in Catholic Churches in Southern Europe there are statues of Black Virgins, which is an unusual colour for a Christian image. It seems these Churches were built on pagan Temples of Black Goddesses, many being the Black Isis who was very popular in Roman times though there is evidence that the Black Isis replaced a even older Black Goddess. So in effect the Virgin Mary became a Goddess and followed a tradition of being painted black. Kali is also associated with the ancient Celtic Goddesses Caillech, Cale, Scotia, the Finish Goddess Kalma and many other European Goddesses who like Kali are called The Black Mother and Creatrix of the World. In Ancient Egypt there was Sekhmet, the lioness Goddess, who like Kali would slaughter whole armies of men or Demons and get drunk on drinking blood. There is also the Aztec Goddess Coatlicue, who had a skirt of serpents, a necklace of human hearts and a human skull in her hand. In some images her head has been cut-off and from her neck flow two streams of blood, which is also similar to traditional pictures of Kali.

If it is possible to connect Kali with Coatlicue, then Kali would have to be a very ancient Goddess, because to do this would mean that she is older than the time when there was a land Bridge between Siberia and Alaska. This goes back to the time of the last ice age which sounds incredible, until you ask the question; why were the people in Northern Europe worshipping Black Goddesses? It is normal for people to worship idols of the same race as themselves. Christians in Northern Europe have statues of Christ with fair-hair and blue eyes, while in Africa his statues are that of a black-man. The only reason why people would worship a statue of a race different from themselves is that the Deity had an extremely long visual tradition that people forgot why they made the Deity that way. Human beings probably evolved in Africa, which is a hot country, so in spite of the drawings you see of early cave-men that show them to be white. It is more than likely that they were black and some of them only slowly became white when they lived many thousands of generations in cold climates. Kali could be by far the oldest Deity that is being worshipped in the world today. In some images Kali is shown as a very old woman, perhaps an indication of her great age? Also she is known as the Goddess of time, suggesting that she is timeless. This has been partly confirmed by Archaeologists, who have discovered images of Goddesses going back 30,000 years.

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[In this picture we see a Goddess who represents the whole of womenkind lying asleep in an Egyptian crypt. We also see a Mason priest awaking her, suggesting that it will be the work of the Freemasons that will re-awaken the Goddess.
But it could have another meaning because this is portrayed as an Egyptian scene and the Egyptian Sun Goddess is Sekhmet whom is also a lioness. The story of Sekhmet is very similar to the story of Kali, because like Kali she not only destroys the evil god but also nearly destroys mankind as well. So if the lion is a representation of Sekhmet then it suggests that it is powerful women like Kali and Sekhmet that is needed to reawaken women.
This scene is also similar to the re-awaking of Inanna where the God Enki saves her.]

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Super misleading headline here:

http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/05/joaquin-phoenix-philip-seymour-hoffman-heroin-death-mimi-odonnell/

Joaquin Phoenix &
Michelle Williams
United in Death
2/5/2014 3:19 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

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Joaquin Phoenix and Michelle Williams -- both of whom lost loved ones to ODs -- paid their respects Wednesday to Mimi O'Donnell -- the longtime partner of Philip Seymour Hoffman.

Phoenix -- who's brother River Phoenix died from a mixture of heroin and cocaine in 1993 -- paid a visit to O'Donnell's NYC apartment, accompanied by GF Allie Teilz.

Joaquin co-starred with Hoffman two years ago in "The Master."

Williams showed up a short time later. She co-starred with PSH in "Synecdoche, New York" in 2008 ... the same year her ex-partner -- Heath Ledger -- was found dead in his apartment from an accidental overdose of Rx meds.

O'Donnell's been receiving a number of well-wishers ... including Cate Blanchett and Jennifer Aniston's fiance, Justin Theroux.

Phoenix refuses to touch BATMAN franchise with 40 foot pole:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/06/adam-driver-and-joaquin-phoenix-turned-down-batman-v-superman-lex-luthor-role-4293049/

Joaquin Phoenix and Adam Driver were both reportedly approached to play Lex Luthor in Batman v Superman – but said no.

Phoenix, who is winning rave reviews in Spike Jonze’s love story Her, turned down the offer while Girls star Driver was said to be keen but forced to say no due to scheduling issues, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

The part eventually went to The Social Network star Jesse Eisenberg.

Breaking Bad actor Bryan Cranston was a fan favourite to land the part but the publication claims neither he nor Tom Hanks – whose name was ‘discussed internally’ – were approached for the role.

Director Zack Snyder said of Jesse’s casting in a statement: ‘Lex Luthor is often considered the most notorious of Superman’s rivals, his unsavory reputation preceding him since 1940.

‘What’s great about Lex is that he exists beyond the confines of the stereotypical nefarious villain.

‘He’s a complicated and sophisticated character whose intellect, wealth and prominence position him as one of the few mortals able to challenge the incredible might of Superman.

‘Having Jesse in the role allows us to explore that interesting dynamic, and also take the character in some new and unexpected directions.’

Batman v Superman is out on May 6, 2016.

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"SAVING HEATH"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2552848/Michelle-Williams-brings-painful-memories-visits-Philip-Seymour-Hoffmans-former-partner-Mimi-ODonnell-pay-respects.html

Michelle Williams revisits painful memories as she pays her respects to Philip Seymour Hoffman's former partner Mimi O'Donnell to pay her respects
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 04:58 EST, 6 February 2014 | UPDATED: 11:04 EST, 6 February 2014

Michelle Williams kept her head down as she made her way into Phillip Seymour Hoffman's former partner, Mimi O'Donnell's New York apartment on Wednesday.

The actress was there to pay her respects to her late colleague who she worked with on the 2008 movie, Synecdoche, New York.

The visit must have brought back painful memories for the 33-year-old who lost her own partner Heath Ledger six years ago after an accidental prescription drug overdose.

The My Week With Marilyn star gave birth to her and Ledger's daughter Matilda in 2005, after they met on the set of Brokeback Mountain.

It has since emerged that Hoffman, who was found dead in his bathroom on Sunday after a suspected Heroin overdose, had tried to help the late star to overcome his own drug addictions.

He intervened to persuade him to quit heroin by talking the actor into believing there was a life worth living outside of hard drugs and guiding him into sobriety - a source told Popdust.


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Maybe Heath was supposed to die differently, and Hoffman complicated it for 'them'.
Hence the OD on Rx nonsense.
Sounds like Hoffman was a huge hero.
More respect for him w/ everything I read so far.

What an incredible actor, btw. Made MI3 almost good (everyone else sucked)


DEAD DIRECTOR LIST (short)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger

Ledger had aspirations to become a film director and had made some music videos, which director Todd Haynes praised highly in his tribute to Ledger upon accepting the ISP Robert Altman Award, which Ledger posthumously shared, on 23 February 2008




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Seymour_Hoffman

At the time of his death, Hoffman was filming The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2, the final The Hunger Games movie, and had already completed the majority of his scenes.[12] In addition, he was also gearing up for his second directional effort, Ezekiel Moss,[13] and had filmed a pilot for a series for called Happyish, which Showtime had picked up for a full season two weeks before his death.[14]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)

Theodoor "Theo" van Gogh (Dutch: [ˈteːjoː vɑŋ ˈɣɔx]) (23 July 1957 – 2 November 2004) was a Dutch film director, film producer, columnist, author and actor.

Van Gogh worked with the Somali-born writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali to produce the film Submission, which criticized the treatment of women in Islam and aroused controversy among Muslims. On 2 November 2004 he was assassinated by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Dutch-Moroccan Muslim.

The last film he completed before his death, 06/05, was loosely based on the assassination of the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Shelly

Adrienne Levine (June 24, 1966 – November 1, 2006), better known by the stage name Adrienne Shelly (sometimes credited as Adrienne Shelley), was an American actress, director and screenwriter. Making her name in independent films such as 1989's The Unbelievable Truth and 1990's Trust, Shelly transitioned to a writing and directing career in subsequent years. She wrote, co-starred in, and directed the 2007 film Waitress, which won five awards and numerous film festival accolades.

On November 1, 2006, Shelly was found dead in her Greenwich Village work studio. While initially thought a suicide, police later arrested a construction worker who confessed to murdering Shelly when she caught him robbing her apartment. Shelly's husband afterwards established the Adrienne Shelly Foundation, that awards scholarships, production grants, finishing funds and living stipends to artists. In her commemoration, the Women Film Critics Circle gives an annual Adrienne Shelly Award to the film that it finds "most passionately opposes violence against women."


http://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/aug/20/tony-scott-director-dies

Tony Scott, Top Gun director and brother of Ridley, dies in Los Angeles. Tony Scott, director of Top Gun and Crimson Tide, has died after jumping from a bridge in Los Angeles, authorities said. The film director Tony Scott has jumped to his death from a suspension bridge over Los Angeles harbour, shocking Hollywood.

The 68-year-old British director of Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop II and Crimson Tide leaped from the Vincent Thomas bridge spanning San Pedro and Terminal Island at 12.30pm local time (8.30pm BST) on Sunday.

Police found a list of contact details in his car, a black Toyota Prius, which was parked on one of the bridge's eastbound lanes, a coastguard spokesman, Lieutenant Jennifer Osburn, said. A suicide note was later found in Scott's office.

Several witnesses reportedly saw Scott climb a fence on the south side
of the bridge's apex. He "jumped without hesitation", said official sources quoted in the Daily Breeze.

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ACTORS who died after playing drug addicts:

http://perezhilton.com/2013-07-16-cory-monteith-drug-addict-last-film-mccanick

The director, who developed quite a close bond with his star, remembers the last time he saw Cory three weeks ago to watch the finished cut of the movie that has been submitted to the Toronto Film Festival.
Josh recalled:


“He sent me an email later that evening after the screening saying he was so thankful and had a lot of pride in the role. He was nervous and scared — but it was that good fear. He said something along the lines of — ‘I can’t wait to find out the release date so that I can tell the world about it.' It’s tricky, because you know there’s a group of people that want to see the movie because it’s his last film — but by no means does anybody want to exploit the tragedy. I want people to see the movie, because Cory deserves that. People would ultimately see that he had a lot more to offer artistically, and it’s a shame that this happened because now he can’t explore that.”

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Actors who died before completing their final film


http://www.mandatory.com/2013/07/23/10-famous-actors-who-died-before-completing-their-final-film/1


River Phoenix - "Dark Blood" (2012)

While filming "Dark Blood" in 1993, River
Phoenix joined his friends for a night out at the then Johnny Depp-owned nightclub, The Viper Room, in West Hollywood on Halloween. After already consuming a dangerous amount of cocaine and ephedrine, he was offered a hit of heroine in the club's bathroom. After this caused him to shake and vomit, someone gave him a Valium to calm down, which only made things worse and led to full on cardiac arrest, and later death. "Dark Blood," still missing key scenes with the actor, wasn't completed and released until September 27, 2012 (albeit in a limited capacity), when director George Sluizer provided voice-over to compensate for the missing scenes.


Heath Ledger, "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus" (2009)

On January 22, 2008, Heath Ledger was found dead in his New York City apartment from an apparent overdose of prescription medications consisting of sleeping pills and antidepressants. His final film, director Terry Gilliam's "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus," was left incomplete. However, due to the nature of the plot involving a character who can travel to different worlds, actors/friends Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell, and Jude Law were able to step into the role and
complete the film, as it could be played off as the character's appearance changing with each new place. The salaries from the actors were donated to Ledger's daughter, Matilda.


Adrienne Shelly, "Serious Moonlight" (2009)

A bit more haunting than a drug overdose, what was first assumed to be the suicide of actor/writer/director Adrienne Shelly turned out to be her gruesome murder. After completing her final acting role in the film she also wrote and directed, "Waitress," Shelly was found hanging with a bed sheet from her shower curtain rod in her studio on November 1, 2006. After her husband, Andrew Ostroy, claimed it couldn't have been suicide, a 19-year old illegal immigrant from Ecuador by the name of Diego Pillco confessed to her murder.
She had apparently caught him trying to steal money from her purse after breaking in. While "Waitress" had been completed, her script for "Serious Moonlight" had not yet been filmed. Her husband went on to produce it, while one of the stars of "Waitress," Cheryl Hines, directed.


Chris Farley, "Shrek" (2001)

In a strange twist, not only did Chris Farley die before completing voice-over work on his final film, "Shrek," but the film ended up not starring him at all. After passing away from an overdose of morphine and cocaine on the morning of December 18, 1997, it was revealed that work voicing the green ogre had already been 80-90 percent completed by the actor when he passed on. That wasn't enough, though, and the job was then given to fellow SNL veteran, Mike Myers.


Oliver Reed, "Gladiator" (2000)

Sometimes, an actor passing away mid-film can really be costly, and such was the case with Oliver Reed. Reed died from a heart attack while filming "Gladiator" in Valletta, Malta on May 2, 1999. Known for his alcoholism in real life, it was reported that he drank eight bottles of beer, three bottles of rum and many more shots of whiskey the night of his death. In order to complete the film, body doubles were used and then Reed's face was added digitally. The process cost upwards of three million dollars.


John Candy, "Wagons East!" (1994)

It's sad when great comedic actors go out on a bad note. Unfortunately, this happened with John Candy's death, as his final film, "Wagons East!" was released to critical panning in 1994. Even worse, the damning reviews can not even be blamed on the actor's death, as most of his scenes had been completed when he died of a heart attack in his sleep on March 4, 1994 while on location in Durango, Mexico. The remaining few scenes he had left to shoot were done with the aid of a body double, much like Oliver Reed, but without the heavy
cost.


Natalie Wood, "Brainstorm" (1983)

The mystery surrounding the death of Natalie Wood is still debated to this day, with the case yet again being reopened back in January (HuffPo). However, until any new information is brought to light, the fact of the matter is simply that while filming "Brainstorm" on November 29, 1981, Natalie Wood drowned off the coast of Catalina Island, California while partying on a yacht with her husband, Robert Wagner, and co-star, Christopher Walken. Fortunately, most of Wood's scenes had been shot by the time she drowned, so the
remaining were completed using a body double and dubbed dialogue.


Bruce Lee - "Enter the Dragon" (1973)/ "Game of Death"

In another case of mystery surrounding death, Bruce Lee passed away before completing dubbing work on his final film, "Enter the Dragon," on July 20, 1973 in Kowloon, Hong Kong. Officially ruled "death by misadventure," it was said by forensic scientist, Donald Teare, that Lee was killed by an acute cerebral edema caused by a reaction to the medication, Equagesic. However, others say this could not be so, as the substance wasn't present during Lee's initial collapse while
recording dubbing at Golden Harvest studios moths before on May 10, 1973. In any case, "Enter the Dragon" was still released. However, the final film Lee was actually still filming at the time of his death, "Game of Death," remains incomplete, but the footage was released in the 2000 documentary, "Bruce Lee: A Warrior's Journey."


Bela Lugosi - "Plan 9 from Outer Space" (1959)

Legendary actor Bela Lugosi was pretty well washed up by the time he passed away of a heart attack on August 15, 1956. He was also taking medication for sciatic neuritis at this point in his life, and had become addicted to morphine and methadone to boot. So the offers weren't exactly flying in. In fact, Ed Wood was about the only director who would hire him. And so, Lugosi would die with his last role being Ghoul Man in "Plan 9 from Outer Space," the worst film ever made. To top it all
off, he had only shot a few minutes of footage before dying (with no dialogue, mind you), and was replaced by a stand-in who looked nothing like him and spent the rest of the movie covering his face with a cape.


Frank Morgan - "Annie Get Your Gun" (1950)

Last but not least, we come to the "Wonderful Wizard of Oz" himself, Frank Morgan. He died of a heart attack mere days into shooting his final film "Annie Get Your Gun" on September 18, 1949. He was supposed to play the role of Buffalo Bill, but seeing as how he hadn't shot a majority of his scenes yet, he was replaced by Louis Calhern. However, the very first scene where the character is seen riding into town from a distance, one of the few that Morgan had shot, was kept in to honor his memory.
The close-up shots were changed to Calhern, though, as it simply wouldn't have made sense not to do that.

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"HAPPY ACCIDENTS"
The Crow (FILM) and Freemasonry Initations

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crow_(film)#Death_of_Brandon_Lee


Brandon Lee died of a gunshot wound on March 31, 1993 after an accidental shooting on set at EUE Screen Gems Studios in Wilmington, North Carolina.

The scene in which Lee was accidentally shot, Lee’s character walks into his apartment and discovers his fiancée being beaten and raped by thugs. Actor Michael Massee's character fires a .44 Magnum Smith & Wesson Model 629 revolver at Lee as he walks into the room.[3] A previous scene using the same gun had called for inert dummy cartridges fitted with bullets (but no powder or primer) to be loaded in the revolver; for close-up scenes which utilize a revolver (where the bullets are clearly visible from the front) and do not require the gun to actually be fired, dummy cartridges provide a more realistic appearance than blank rounds, which have no bullet. Instead of purchasing commercial dummy cartridges, the film's prop crew (hampered by time constraints) created their own by pulling the bullets from live rounds, dumping the powder charge then reinserting the bullets.[4][5] However, they unknowingly left the live percussion primer in place at the rear of the cartridge. At some point during filming the revolver was apparently discharged with one of these improperly-deactivated cartridges in the chamber, setting off the primer with enough force to drive the bullet partway into the barrel, where it became stuck (a condition known as a squib load). The prop crew either failed to notice or failed to recognize the significance of this issue.

In the fatal scene, which called for the revolver to be actually fired at Lee from a distance of 12-15 feet, the dummy cartridges were exchanged with blank rounds, which feature a live powder charge and primer, but no bullet, thus allowing the gun to be fired without the risk of an actual projectile. As the production company had sent the firearms specialist home early, responsibility for the guns was given to a prop assistant who was not aware of the rule for checking all firearms before and after any handling. Therefore, the barrel was not checked for obstructions when it came time to load it with the blank rounds.[4][5] Since the bullet from the dummy round was already trapped in the barrel, this caused the .44 Magnum bullet to be fired out of the barrel with virtually the same force as if the gun had been loaded with a live round, and it struck Lee in the chest, mortally wounding him.[6]

He was rushed to the New Hanover Regional Medical Center in Wilmington, NC where he underwent 6 hours of surgery. However, attempts to save him were unsuccessful, and Lee was pronounced dead at 1:03pm on March 31, 1993 at the age of 28. The shooting was ruled an accident.

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Carl Fitje, grand master of the New York State Freemasons (search), issued a statement Tuesday denying that guns play a role in any officially sanctioned lodge ceremonies.

"We don't use pistols," Steve Mayo, who described himself as a senior deacon of the lodge, told reporters Tuesday. "This is not a Masonic ceremony where we bring pistols."

However, Fitzpatrick said members told police the rite involving a gun goes back at least 70 years.

Mayo said the Monday night ceremony was an initiation into the Fellow Craft (search), which is the second degree within the multilevel Masonic system.


A Ritual Gone Fatally Wrong Puts Light on Masonic Secrecy
By PATRICK HEALY; Faiza Akhtar contributed reporting for this article.
Published: March 10, 2004
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The initiation rituals at the Masonic lodge here had been bathed in secrecy over the years. The climax of Monday night's ceremony was to be a simple prank. A new member of the Fellow Craft Club, a select group within the lodge, would sit in a chair while an older member stood 20 feet away and fired a handgun loaded with blanks.

That ritual went terribly wrong inside Southside Masonic Lodge No. 493, in a basement littered with rat traps, tin cans, a 9-foot-tall guillotine, and a setup designed to mimic walking a plank.

The shooter, a 76-year-old Mason, Albert Eid, was carrying two guns, a .22-caliber handgun with blanks in his left pocket, and a .32-caliber gun with live rounds in his right pocket.

He reached into his right pants pocket, pulled out the wrong gun and shot William James, a 47-year-old fellow Mason, in the face, killing him, the authorities said.

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I feel sorry for everyone involved in that except the one who lied

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I'm torn whether there is any kind of conspiracy here. And well, sometimes WTC, a point can be lost when too much information is given.
I think sometimes a simple statement can say more than tons of articles links and paragraphs.

I just do not see any reason to kill Hoffman unless there is some kind of cultic embuement going on in terms of his life force.


The masons believed that when beginning the construction of any ediface of any size or stature that was meant to last and be a significant cultural icon, a human sacrifice was needed.
All of the old church's and castles were ussually christened with blood and death.

This was ussually done in the construction of what was being built to help insure the success of the project.
Hoffman's association with the Hunger Games leaves me feeling there is no connection here.
This is the third installment as such why sacrifice someone? This project is already well underway.

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I'm torn whether there is any kind of conspiracy here. And well, sometimes WTC, a point can be lost when too much information is given.
I think sometimes a simple statement can say more than tons of articles links and paragraphs.

I just do not see any reason to kill Hoffman unless there is some kind of cultic embuement going on in terms of his life force.


The masons believed that when beginning the construction of any ediface of any size or stature that was meant to last and be a significant cultural icon, a human sacrifice was needed.
All of the old church's and castles were ussually christened with blood and death.

This was ussually done in the construction of what was being built to help insure the success of the project.
Hoffman's association with the Hunger Games leaves me feeling there is no connection here.
This is the third installment as such why sacrifice someone? This project is already well underway.

Hi, DNA.

If you are having trouble navigating this thread about my impressions of Philip Hoffman's life and death,
and the possibility of this death (among others) being linked to Satanism or other occult activities,
I would recommend starting a new thread -- completely different from this one. :nod:

This one can't be shortened to your preferences without deleting posts,
and threads on Avalon don't get shorter unless something is wrong with them. Nice try, though.

Since you were the first to criticize this thread, by the way, I think it's only fair that you be the one to start another.

:) Maybe it will be better, or at least, more organized.
After all, I don't have much experience with these things.

In fact, the only experience I have is when there is a huge problem,
like a false flag, a global-scale falsehood, or an untimely death.
Kind of limits the opportunity to improve the process, eh?
There are two kinds of work happening here, not one.
The organization comes after the impression.

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However, that said, I do remain fairly confident that as the police work on this case, more details may come out that we'll later get to read on the MSM.

It doesn't really matter what the average TMZ reader thinks of this thread,
or the people who read the short newspaper obituaries and "cared" for three seconds.

This was written on Avalon, for Avalon, and the rare reader with an interest in the occult will appreciate parts of it. Nothing more complicated than that.

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DNA, when I joined the forum, it was at a time when a certain user was in the process of leaving. She was a very bright cookie, but her posts were 10x as strange and confusing as this thread. There were terms and phrases that at best seemed like palindromes of each other -- nonsensical plays on words. Nothing I could take away from it without studying it for a YEAR or longer. Now.

Although I grant you the connections I've drawn are shaky at best, none of the material in here is original -- maybe someone has a bit of a problem with me researching this topic? I would hate to think that. So for now, I won't assume it.

But telling a person on a conspiracy-related forum that "there is no conspiracy" when my own goddamned Freemason family tried to lock me up to hide it, gosh. It's pretty amazing -- I'd like to have some of your optimism. Because right now, the smile has been SO wiped off my face. :jaw: I feel like, we are strangers?
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About the Masonry thing. They deny all connection to human sacrifice.
I mean, there's the corporate angle and the assassination angle, the political angle and the boredom angle, but I don't really see how that would automatically mean Masons openly engage in human sacrifice to dedicate buildings. Are you alleging this, and if so, where did you get the information?

Your post refers to human sacrifice more than once-- yes, I've read the legend about Merlin and the two dragons, and the blood on the cornerstone -- but really?
I mean, our lives are saved daily by the lowest form of life on earth, the microbe -- and people are still willing to subscribe to the belief that human sacrifice should be accepted as normal because of its historical prevalence?

What if it wasn't about "Hunger Games" at all? Did you think that because I used some images from the show that I meant his death was important somehow to the franchise? Maybe they will make more money, maybe not. But who gave him the role?

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Has anyone in my country ever once thought about what would be living and thriving in the places where all those cold stones have been piled up by people like that? Places like Whitman Mission, Washington D.C., that damned Stonehenge monument on the Columbia River, things like that? I'd like to know what was there before 'they' destroyed everything that was beautiful about it. God made the world just fine before people screwed it up. In fact, we wouldn't even live in houses and be stuck in one place if it wasn't for the Masons. We are on the grid, living in neat little rows, with every name and number on record, thanks to Masons.

I'd rather live in a cardboard box and be free than live in a mansion and care what people like that think about life. They don't live it. They imprison it.

So many picturesque and historical American treasures, covered up and befouled by the ugly monuments and lifeless concrete?

I mean really, I can't even stand the sidewalk in Hollywood -- and that's something most people appreciate seeing. I don't like being confronted by the memory of the dead when I least expect it.

There are many spirits who died without happiness. I don't know their names unless I am standing on their graves, and thanks to what just happened to Philip Hoffman, that's all that people are going to have to remember him by. Aside from the trash Hollywood threw his way. I would rather have the man than the machine any day.

Movies are less real to me than the souls of the people who created them. Any clown with a CGI setup can fool the eyes into believing, fool the heart into loving the form on the screen. So many Americans sleepwalking through life with the blinders on, taking nothing but the "official word" on a subject -- the prettiest film production is the most believable. I barely watch Youtube because of this mentality. Unless it's a documentary or a music video, what's the point? No one has anything new to say anymore.

Because I am aware, my eyes are open in fact to it, of the abuse that so many movie stars endure to reach fame, my mind is open to suspicion.

Too many people have been dying this way for me to be silent -- Jimi Hendrix, for example. Did he inhale a whole bottle of red wine by himself? Can you imagine being drowned in alcohol, how painful and frightening that would be? How ****ing racist it was for those jokers to do him like that?

Sorry but this whole conversation pisses me off.
Did I waste enough time answering questions?

Should I even bother pointing out that the thread title mentions "Ezekiel Moss" and not "Hunger Games"? Hoffman wasn't the DIRECTOR of Hunger Games, and if you read the thread completely you might realize, a lot of directors have died during, before, and after their first production...

What do you think about that? The list of directors I posted who died after making politically incorrect films, anti-establishment films?

Did you even see the bit about Heath Ledger wanting to direct movies, or that Hoffman was literally walking around Sundance telling complete strangers about his heroin problem?

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Not sure what to say except, I hope this doesn't derail the thread.
And that human sacrifice surely isn't a Christian principle -- if you think that "churches and edifices in general required human blood" in order to be successful, please elaborate. I am waiting.

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p.p.s

The Masons likely burned London to the ground in 1666.
they had a street plan prepared in less than a week.
And the joke about Christopher Wren "dining with some men and if anyone comes to call, tell them I am designing St. Paul's" wasn't funny to me. At all.
They literally learned this trick from Nero... not to mention, the Mayor hindered the firefighters to the point where the King was in tears and Samuel Pepys had to step in and perform mayoral duties during the conflagration. You do know that the king protected the people from the aristos before they ran rampant in London? And in the 1500s there were laws protecting the property of the insane, even if they didn't live there -- but all that was abolished after the Masons rewrote the laws.
They made sure no one "low" had anywhere to go without knowing what trash they were. The profane eyes of the uninitiated.

The Masons likely burned Seattle to the ground in 1889 as well. For racial reasons.
This was right after they failed to FORCIBLY DEPORT the Chinese population from Seattle by train and boat. The Sheriff stopped them from doing it so they burned the whole waterfront to destroy the Chinese and lower-class holdings. Because too many people owned property on the waterfront and they "wanted to clean it up". They did this when the fire chief was in California at a conference, and even blew up Colman block to ensure that the fire consumed everything, not just the boardwalks. It was because of Mayor Moran that the fire went uphill. Directly his fault.

Even on Wikipedia, you can see the reference to rats and vermin, a thinly masked social commentary from the days when KKK was in style.

Strangely enough, there was an event in 2001, where the mayor failed to handle a very high-profile disaster in the manner people expected. Can you guess which city, which event, and which people? I am talking about 9/11. Is that the sort of human sacrifice you are talking about, because I am pretty sure some folks burned alive, hanged, jumped, strangled, drowned, you name it. Almost every type of death you could want was there on 9/11. And gee whiz.


Tomorrow New York is going to be here. And we're going to rebuild, and we're going to be stronger than we were before... I want the people of New York to be an example to the rest of the country, and the rest of the world, that terrorism can't stop us.


http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1095986!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg
right before Syria got so hot



...So you're telling me that 3,000 people were NOT a burnt human sacrifice, although it was pretty obvious to me that it was, but Philip Seymour Hoffman was in no possible way targeted, considered, etc. by such people?

Cuz you mentioned ancient churches but not the Twin Towers. :usa2:


p.p.p.s. did you see my Feb 1st thread about "Grand Master Architect" and Super Bowl? Didn't you think it was strange that "The Master" is in every article about Hoffman except a few?

@_@ sigh.

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/06/us/heroin-investigations/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

The Philip Seymour Hoffman case: Are heroin death probes created equal?
By Chelsea J. Carter and Ray Sanchez, CNN
updated 12:47 AM EST, Fri February 7, 2014

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New York (CNN) -- Within hours of finding Philip Seymour Hoffman on the floor of his bathroom with a needle in his arm, New York Police Department investigators were combing his apartment and the surrounding neighborhood for clues.

Investigators looked through video from ATM cameras and interviewed people who saw the actor, piecing together his final hours as they searched for anyone who might be linked to the drugs believed to have killed him over the weekend.

Three days later, authorities arrested four people in connection with the drugs found in Hoffman's apartment.

It was a lightning-paced investigation, raising the question that out of the thousands of heroin-related deaths in the United States each year, how many yield similar results?

"There are laws in most states now that say if you give drugs to somebody who kill themselves, you are responsible for their death," CNN legal analyst Mark O'Mara said.

But are all such investigations created equal? The answer depends on whom you ask, and where you ask.

'A victim is a victim'

The large law-enforcement response to Hoffman's death wasn't surprising to Mordecai Dzikansky, a retired NYPD homicide detective and intelligence officer with more than 25 years on the job.

"...That's part of the beast," he said. "Something happens in Midtown versus something happens in a corner of Staten Island, I don't think the detectives on the case feel any differently. A victim is a victim."

But add the actor's stature and the media attention, and it requires a few more "hands on deck," he said.

Everyone in law enforcement agrees there has been a spike in heroin use in the United States, spurred by a crackdown on abuse of prescription pills and an increase in heroin production in Mexico.

As a result, heroin-related deaths are on the rise. And so, too, are the investigations into the drug that serves as a cheap substitute for prescription drug abuse.
Quantifying the number of heroin-related investigations is difficult at best, given the sheer number of jurisdictions across the nation.

But Joseph Giacalone, a retired NYPD detective with more than 20 years of experience as an investigator, believes the police response in the Hoffman case was undoubtedly influenced by media attention surrounding an apparent overdose death of a celebrity.

The Manhattan district attorney's office declined to comment on the Hoffman case or discuss the number of heroin-related prosecutions it has carried out. The New York Police Department did not respond to repeated CNN requests to discuss the scope and pace of the Hoffman investigation compared to others in the city.

Spate of deaths

Giacalone said a spate of heroin-related deaths in the region also played a role in the police response.

In Allegheny County, a predominantly working class area of western Pennsylvania, the chief medical examiner says he typically sees three to four deaths a week from drug overdoses.

Rarely are they heroin deaths.

But in one week in late January, Dr. Karl Williams says he saw 15 -- all heroin users, all from an overdose of heroin laced with the powerful cancer painkiller fentanyl.
The drug did not discriminate. Among the dead: Men and women, young and old. None was a famous actor, though.

County and state law enforcement officials sounded the warning about the deadly drug, and Pittsburgh's mayor pleaded for people to come forward with information.

Within days, a 39-year-old Pittsburgh man was in custody charged with selling the heroin. Authorities seized more than 2,000 bags of the suspected heroin from the man's home, state Attorney General Kathleen G. Kane said at the time.

"It is my highest priority to find and hold accountable those involved in the distribution of this deadly drug mixture," she said.

Authorities in Maryland sounded a similar warning after 37 people died between September and January after using heroin laced with fentanyl.

And in New York City, authorities have reported a dramatic jump in heroin-related deaths. From 2010 to 2012, heroin-related deaths jumped 84%, from 3.1 to 5.7 per 100,000 people, according to a New York City Health Department report released in 2013. That amounts to 382 deaths in 2012, more than one per day.

"The more attention that these things get in the media, the more likelihood there's going to be a strong police response," said Giacalone, who teaches criminal investigation at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan.

Celebrities vs. ordinary people

But the media doesn't pay close attention to an overdose death of an ordinary New Yorker, said Dzikansky, who spent years investigating drug overdoses.

"Most of the overdoses that I dealt with, I can't say all, but there was a significant amount where the person, in order to feed the habit, would burglarize apartments," he said.
"Here's an example of a person with a family who brought joy to many, many people and, unfortunately, his addiction killed him. Now there's more attention ... We have to get it [heroin] off the streets. Once it's off the streets, everybody benefits, even the burglar who does it to feed a habit benefits."

Hundreds of miles from New York City, Beth Vernau heard the news of Hoffman's death and the police investigation.

There has been no such law enforcement response looking into her son Andrew's heroin overdose last October, she says.

"What makes his death more important than that of my 19-year-old son?" Vernau, who lives outside Pittsburgh, asked of Hoffman's apparent drug overdose.

"(The police) get on it because it makes the news. But you have a 19-year-old who overdosed, and there could be an example made out there: We're going to go after these people. But no, because he's not a celebrity, that's the end of it."

'Families of ordinary kids struggle'

Andrew was hospitalized two days before dying from an addiction that started when he was 13, Vernau said. He started abusing alcohol and pot, then prescription drugs and, finally, heroin.

She said her son overdosed and the two people he was with put him in her car and drove him around for an hour and 45 minutes before taking him to a hospital. There was no prosecution, she said, no search for the dealer who sold him the heroin.

"Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for anybody who dies of an overdose. But the families of ordinary kids struggle just as much," she said.

Giacalone said some will unfairly criticize the rapid police response to the death of the celebrity.

"Family members of people who aren't famous will say, look at the police response because this guy was an actor, but that's not the case," he said. "The answer is that people were willing to cooperate and give out information to get this stuff. Usually family members are the last ones to know. And friends abandon them, too, because they're using heroin, too."

"It really comes down to the fact that in the very beginning of the investigation, they had people who were willing to help out the police. That rarely happens."
The day after Hoffman died the headlines in New York screamed: "Last Act" and "Death By The Needle."

There were no such headlines for Jose Juarez and Yvonne Valdez, both 18, who died last November of heroin overdoses blocks apart on the same day in Irving, Texas.
Authorities were looking into whether overdoses were related, according to CNN affiliate KNBC in Dallas.

How did it happen?

Celebrity deaths attract attention and, ultimately, questions: How did this happen? Why did it happen?

Those are the questions authorities are trying to answer about Hoffman.

Giacalone is hopeful some good might come out of the investigation.

"Maybe this death of this actor won't be in vain. Maybe they'll be a huge response with arrests of people putting heroin on the streets," he said.

And just maybe all this attention on Hoffman's death will save a few lives, Aaron Sorkin, the creator of HBO's "The Newsroom," wrote in Time magazine.

The two men first met on the set of the 2007 film "Charlie Wilson's War," and during a break in filming the two men shared their stories of heroin addiction with one another.

"If one of us dies of an overdose, probably 10 people who were about to won't," Hoffman told him, Sorkin wrote in Time magazine.

"He meant that our deaths would make news and maybe scare someone clean."

CNN's Ray Sanchez reported this story from New York; Chelsea J. Carter reported and wrote from Atlanta.

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...Is anyone else starting to wonder if he planned this himself, or with help from "friends"??

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How about, GO AFTER THE DEALERS AND DRUG LORDS, and stop blaming the dude that bought the poison...

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-philip-seymour-hoffman-autopsy-inconclusive-20140205,0,2431222.story#axzz2sdX5Lcav

Philip Seymour Hoffman autopsy inconclusive; more tests needed

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By Michael Muskal
February 5, 2014, 10:52 a.m.
An autopsy of Philip Seymour Hoffman's body was inconclusive, and the determination of the official cause of death will have to wait for additional testing, the New York City’s medical examiner's office said Wednesday.
“Our examination has been concluded but the results are inconclusive,” spokeswoman Julie Bolcer told the Los Angeles Times. “We are awaiting results and additional studies.”
Bolcer said there was no time frame available for when the tests would be completed.
Police have said Hoffman appeared to die from a drug overdose, but the exact cause will be determined by toxicology tests.
Hoffman, 46, was found dead Sunday with a needle in his arm in the bathroom of his West Village apartment, police said. At least 50 packets, some containing heroin, were found in his apartment along with unused syringes and a charred spoon, police said. Various prescription medications, including a drug used to treat heroin addiction, a blood-pressure medication and a muscle relaxant, were also found at the scene.
Hoffman had publicly acknowledged abusing drugs and told CBS' “60 Minutes” in 2006 that had he used “anything I could get my hands on” before getting clean at age 22.
In interviews last year Hoffman said he had relapsed, had developed a heroin problem and had gone to rehabilitation for a time.
His death came amid rising concern around the region about a powerful drug hybrid — a mixture of heroin and fentanyl, a synthetic form of morphine — that has been linked to deaths in other states, including 22 deaths within a week last month in western Pennsylvania.
But the drug found at Hoffman's apartment tested negative for fentanyl, a police official said.
Four people have been arrested on drug charges in New York after Hoffman’s death, though whether the suspects were involved with the actor remained unclear on Wednesday.
Police refused to discuss any relationship between the arrests and Hoffman’s death over the weekend.
But local media reports, based on unnamed police sources, said the arrests came after raids based on information gathered from the Hoffman investigation and that authorities were looking at whether there were any connections between those arrested and Hoffman.
Several reports said police making the arrests had recovered heroin packaged in the same way as the drugs found in Hoffman’s apartment. Dealers often brand their products, and in this case the drugs carried the brands identifying them as Ace of Spades or Ace of Hearts.


http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-philip-seymour-hoffman-autopsy-inconclusive-20140205,0,2431222.story#ixzz2sdXQsBau

[Cidersomerset]

I don't know the ins and outs of his life, but its ironic that he was about to
help lead the rebellion against President Snow ......

http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-hunger-games-catching-fire-trailer-screenshot-plutarch-heavensbee.jpg?w=1024

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I don't know the ins and outs of his life, but its ironic that he was about to
help lead the rebellion against President Snow ......

http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-hunger-games-catching-fire-trailer-screenshot-plutarch-heavensbee.jpg?w=1024

I think you hit the sacrificial Nail on the Head! :( lol

j/k

But it does seem like "leaders", whether real or fictional, always die in our films.

I am getting sick of snuff. @_@ films!

p.s. guys, this morning I wrote a short email to the sheriff in the county where my dad allegedly ODed.

His own cousin sold him the **** that killed him and showed up at the funeral to blame the wife.

Not sure why I waited 7 years of madness to tell on him.

Live n learn.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Bayer is going to make money off of this death and publicity if the police don't realize, Heroin was patented by Bayer and changed marginally in order to maintain patent.

Oxycontin is almost pure heroin, right, with a few BAD changes.

An Arab online once said, heroin itself is pretty clean. The addiction is terrible, and it's widespread, but people don't OD as often over there as you might think.
They're all on H by age 16 in some areas. No kidding.

But in the USA, we let the drug companies make the laws and make the money.

If Heroin was obtainable at the pharmacy, in its pure form, or cut safely whatever, these things wouldn't happen like this.

Also why can't pharmacies and doctors use home monitoring, it costs 25 bucks at the probation office.

seriously wtf police

p.s. maybe legal marijuana would have saved these people -- whose fault is it that they couldn't buy it?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/showbiz/philip-seymour-hoffman-funeral/index.html?hpt=hp_bn9

Philip Seymour Hoffman mourned at private funeral
By Ray Sanchez, Kristen Hamill and Rande Iaboni , CNN
updated 5:45 PM EST, Fri February 7, 2014

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New York (CNN) -- Philip Seymour Hoffman was mourned in New York on Friday with a star-studded private funeral attended by family and close friends.
In the late morning, friends of the one of the greatest actors of his generation began streaming through the bronze doors of the Church of St. Ignatius Loyola on Park Avenue, the 116-year-old landmark that hosted the funerals of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and Lena Horne.
A black hearse pulled up to the church shortly after noon Friday as a couple of dozen fans and mourners gathered nearby to pay their respects.
Six pallbearers carried Hoffman's coffin into the church's Baroque-style interior, where friends such as Cate Blanchett, Meryl Streep, Louis C.K., ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer and director husband Mike Nichols, Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams, Brian Dennehy, Michelle Williams and others awaited.
Nichols directed Hoffman in his acclaimed portrayal of Willy Loman in "Death of a Salesman" on Broadway. Hoffman and Blanchett co-starred in "The Talented Mr. Ripley." Phoenix appeared with him in "The Master."
Hoffman's longtime partner, Mimi O'Donnell, held their young daughter atop the church's marble stairs as traffic was momentarily halted on Park Avenue and quiet enveloped the normally bustling thoroughfare.
At about 1:30 p.m., pallbearers in black suits emerged from the church with Hoffman's coffin, carrying it to a hearse as O'Donnell and the couple's children stood at the top of the stairs. Hoffman's mother, Marilyn O'Connor, stood behind O'Donnell.
The Oscar-winning actor was found dead in his Manhattan apartment Sunday of an apparent drug overdose, law enforcement sources said.
Hoffman, 46, was found on the bathroom floor of his apartment, a needle in his arm. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
Investigators discovered close to 50 envelopes of what they believed was heroin in the apartment, law enforcement sources said. They also found used syringes, prescription drugs and empty plastic bags of a type commonly used to hold drugs, the sources said.
On Tuesday, police arrested four people in connection with the drugs found in Hoffman's apartment and recovered 350 small plastic bags of what is believed to be heroin. The district attorney's office declined to prosecute one suspect. Two others were released pending court appearances. A fourth suspect, Robert Vineberg, charged with a felony count of criminal possession of a controlled substance, pleaded not guilty. He is due to appear in court February 14.
A spokeswoman for the New York medical examiner's office said Wednesday a determination of the cause and manner of Hoffman's death is pending further study, including toxicology reports.
A larger memorial service is being planned for later this month.
On Thursday night, family and close friends attended a private wake at the Frank E. Campbell Funeral Home.
The night before, Broadway honored Hoffman by dimming its marquee lights for a minute and fellow actors held a vigil.
Hoffman, who was nominated for Academy Awards four times, won the Oscar for best actor in 2006 for his portrayal of writer Truman Capote in "Capote." He earned Academy Award nominations for roles in "Charlie Wilson's War," "Doubt," and "The Master."


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Celebrating New year's in NYC with black eyed peas (does this also apply to Chinese NY?)

http://www.homesicktexan.com/2006/12/black-eyed-peas-for-new-years-day.html

THURSDAY, DECEMBER 28, 2006
BLACK-EYED PEAS FOR NEW YEAR'S DAY

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/2210/1642/400/679143/blackeyedpeas4.jpg

My first New Year's Day in New York City, I was panic struck: where was I going to find my annual dose of black-eyed peas? Not having any of the ingredients on hand and with all the stores closed, I was afraid I'd spend 1996 poor and unfortunate. Call me superstitious, but I reckon I need all the help I can get. So after much wandering around the Upper West Side, with only slice joints and the occasional Chinese take-out open for business, a friend suggested we go to Harlem.

But of course! Being new to the city, I hadn't visited Harlem yet because it still had a bad reputation (that would, fortunately, soon be reversed). But if I didn't have my black-eyed peas for wealth and luck, I was certain to be doomed. So we decided to take a chance and go to Sylvia's.

Well, the first two taxis refused to take us there (because Harlem was considered dangerous—sheesh!) but once we finally arrived, all was well: Harlem wasn't scary, Sylvia's was warm and welcoming, and we all had our fill of slow-cooked black-eyed peas dripping with peppers and bacon. And I became a frequent visitor to Harlem's excellent soul food restaurants—everything from church kitchens to the all-you-can-eat buffets with the diners and fine dining establishments thrown in for good measure. But I'm not here to talk about Harlem, I'm here to talk about black-eyed peas.

Gw7gNf_9njs

1:45

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Chinese New Year Foods
While folks in the West traditionally welcome the New Year by drinking champagne and maybe eating black-eyed peas and greens for luck and wealth, the Chinese emphasize feasting and mark New Year's Eve with a large dinner, which typically includes items like dumplings, prawns, dried oysters and other types of seafood. This was traditionally a home-cooked meal, but today more families celebrate at restaurants, which is why New Year's Eve reservations at good restaurants in China can be hard to come by. Families might also hire a professional chef to cook their meal at home [source: History.com].
Many of the foods associated with New Year have symbolic meaning attached to them. For example, oranges, melons and kumquats are popular because their gold color suggests wealth. Dumplings are fashioned to resemble gold and silver ingots and served in soup as symbols of riches. Hard-boiled eggs, cellophane noodles, fish and chicken are all associated with prosperity. Long noodles represent longevity, and the Chinese eat them whole -- it's said that cutting them up in the bowl might lead to a short life. Since red is also so much associated with the New Year, it also features heavily in celebratory dishes. Red dates, red-dyed pumpkin seeds and pomegranates often appear on Chinese tables during this time of year.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2551309/Philip-Seymour-Hoffman-kicked-family-home-using-heroin-house-How-tragic-star-split-wife-drug-spiral-images-slumped-unconscious-flight-three-days-death-emerge.html

'If I don't stop I know I'm going to die': How tragic Philip Seymour Hoffman predicted his fate weeks before fatal heroin overdose as NYPD reveal he withdrew $1200 in 6 transactions at the same ATM on the night before he died
Philip Seymour Hoffman withdrew $1200 in six different transactions from the same West Village ATM the night before he died
Witnesses also came forward to say that Hoffman was 'just like any other junkie' who scored drugs from dealers on the streets
Disheveled actor, 46, admitted to a complete stranger two weeks ago at the Sundance Festival in Utah - 'I'm a heroin addict'
The tragic Oscar winner relapsed into a huge heroin binge before Christmas and told friends 'If I don't stop now, I know I'm going to die'
Hoffman was discovered with close to 70 bags of heroin and 20 discarded syringes inside his Manhattan home on Sunday
Last pictures of the actor reveal him to be drinking in a bar in Atlanta on January 30 and on a flight back to New York
NYPD are examining his cellphone to discover who sold him the drugs
His children were waiting in a playground a block away and were with their mother Mimi O'Donnell when she discovered he was dead
Sources say the actor was kicked out of his house by O'Donnell around three months ago because he had relapsed
New York Medical Examiner says that the autopsy results will not be conducted until Tuesday
If they prove the heroin was tainted - the case could become a homicide investigation
By SARA NATHAN and JAMES NYE and ML NESTEL and DANIEL BATES
PUBLISHED: 21:04 EST, 3 February 2014 | UPDATED: 18:21 EST, 4 February 2014


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2551309/Philip-Seymour-Hoffman-kicked-family-home-using-heroin-house-How-tragic-star-split-wife-drug-spiral-images-slumped-unconscious-flight-three-days-death-emerge.html#ixzz2sgZzKN8J
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http://www.registercitizen.com/general-news/20131219/heroin-in-torrington-clenbuterol-cut-heroin-can-increase-risk-of-overdose

Once the Connecticut Poison Control became aware of the uptick in clenbuterol-cut heroin, it sent out an alert. The agency identified the blip, in part, because it's piped into the National Poison Data System, a database that helps keep track of trends.

Whenever someone calls in with a poison complaint, the report is plumbed into the database and almost immediately at the fingertips of poison control specialists, who are responsible for pegging those trends, Hanoian-Fontana said.

“The alarm goes off in the computer,” she said.

Connecticut experienced at least two “isolated clusters” of clenubutrol-cut heroin, the first about five years ago. The last came in late October, when Connecticut Poison Control alerted several state agencies and sent out a news release to media outlets about a pair of clenbuterol-related cases.

Overdoses from clenbuterol-cut heroin are the “antithesis of what you'd expect in a traditional heroin overdose,” Hanoian-Fontana said. Typically, with heroin overdoses, victims' lips and fingernails turn blue and their breathing dramatically slows. In cases of clenbuterol-cut heroin overdoses, victims' breathing spikes and they experience chest pains that “mimic having a heart attack,” Hanoian-Fontana said.

“They don't look like they've overdosed on heroin,” she said. “Rather the opposite.”



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18501476

Ann Emerg Med. 2008 Nov;52(5):548-53. doi: 10.1016/j.annemergmed.2008.04.026. Epub 2008 May 23.
A descriptive study of an outbreak of clenbuterol-containing heroin.
Hoffman RS, Kirrane BM, Marcus SM; Clenbuterol Study Investigators.
Collaborators (14)
Author information
Abstract
STUDY OBJECTIVE:
Illicit drugs may be adulterated with substances other than the sought-after substance of abuse. Although the true incidence and clinical effects of this practice are unknown, geographically disparate outbreaks of clinically significant adulteration continue to occur. We report on a recent outbreak of clenbuterol-adulterated heroin occurring along the East Coast of the United States.
METHODS:
After identification of index cases, 5 US poison centers collaborated with state and territorial health departments to alert the public of clenbuterol-tainted heroin. A case definition of clenbuterol-tainted heroin toxicity was promulgated, and emergency departments (EDs) were asked to contact poison centers when cases were identified.
RESULTS:
We identified 34 probable or confirmed ED presentations in 5 states during a 6-month period. Thirteen of the 34 patients met the criteria for "confirmed" exposures. Clenbuterol was identified in the blood and or urine of 12 of these 13 patients. Clenbuterol concentrations ranged from 2.4 to 26 ng/mL in the blood and 9.4 to 12,526 ng/mL in the urine. Symptoms included nausea, chest pain, palpitations, dyspnea, and tremor. Physical findings included significant tachycardia, hypotension, and laboratory evidence of hyperglycemia, hypokalemia, and increased lactate levels. Six patients demonstrated biochemical evidence of myocardial injury. Ten patients received beta-adrenergic antagonists without adverse effect.
CONCLUSION:
The adulteration of heroin by clenbuterol was associated with sympathomimetic effects, metabolic acidosis, and myocardial injury. The report also highlights how collaborative efforts among poison centers using the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Epi-X system rapidly identified a disease outbreak.
PMID: 18501476 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


http://articles.courant.com/2013-11-01/health/hc-bad-heroin-1102-20131101_1_clenbuterol-adulterated-heroin-greater-hartford

Tainted Heroin Circulating In Greater Hartford, Health Official Says
November 01, 2013|By WILLIAM WEIR, bweir@courant.com, The Hartford Courant
A strain of heroin circulating in the Hartford area is believed to be tainted with animal asthma medicine and has caused three hospitalizations, a health official says.

Dr. Kelly Johnson-Arbor, a toxicologist at Hartford Hospital and a consultant to the Connecticut Poison Control Center, said the three people began feeling very ill after taking a particular strain of heroin. She said officials believe the heroin had been supplemented with clenbuterol, a drug commonly used by veterinarians to treat asthma in animals.

If he wasn't blue, it could be homicide @_@


http://www.drugfacts.ca/Drug_pages/opiates.html

It’s not hard to accidentally overdose on heroin. It can happen when you take a higher concentration of heroin than you realize, or if you combine it with another drug. When you overdose, your skin turns blue and cold, and you can’t be woken up. It’s not uncommon for overdose to lead to death.



http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/drug-facts/legal-highs

Taking NPS with other drugs

The effects of any drug can be unpredictable but even more so when it comes to mixing different substances. Mixing drugs is also the most common cause of overdose.

[CdnSirian]

Thanks for all of this....overwhelming!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Thanks for all of this....overwhelming!

ya lol I got the flu now. :(

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

AJ says PSH died from super strong Afghani heroin :(

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-real-killers-of-philip-seymour-hoffman-discovered/

Breaking: Real Killers of Philip Seymour Hoffman Discovered
Infowars.com
February 7, 2014

My4KIwLfCw0

The tragic death of Academy Award winning actor Philip Seymour Hoffman reveals the complete and total fraud of the War of Drugs which is now in its fourth decade.

News outlets report that Hoffman died from an extremely strong type of heroin which is processed from opium out of Afghanistan.
Before the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan by U.S. and NATO forces, the landlocked country in Central Asia accounted for less than 7% of the world’s total supply of opium.
Today that amount is approaching 97%.
This article was posted: Friday, February 7, 2014 at 5:13 pm

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

p.s. here is what clenbuterol can do, it's like a massive adrenalin shot, and would kill a fat man probably.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-b-hoffman-md/rushing-to-conclusions-ab_b_3351829.html

Many athletes believe that large doses of drugs that mimic adrenaline can improve performance in endurance sports; indeed, these drugs are banned from the Olympics and other major sporting events such as the Tour de France, except in limited doses to treat asthma. [tesla could use some right now]

Clenbuterol, a drug of this type, increases muscle mass in cattle. The winner of the 2010 Tour was stripped of his title after testing positive for clenbuterol. It is actually uncertain whether clenbuterol improves athletic performance. Nonetheless, very small effects could be enormously meaningful to elite athletes.

Some Paralympic athletes with spinal cord transection can vastly augment release of noradrenaline from the sympathetic nervous system--cut off from control by the brain--by clamping off urinary catheters. This practice, known as 'boosting', possibly augments exercise capacity but is banned in competition because of potentially life-threatening rises in blood pressure. Sadly, problems with adrenaline-related athletic abuse are not new. In 1946, Time Magazine reported that a racing turtle dropped dead after being injected with adrenaline; apparently, the rules did not prohibit pharmacological aids.

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Rise in blood pressure = stroke, heart attack, etc.




“Where now are the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?
Where is the harp on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing?
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.
Who shall gather the smoke of the deadwood burning,
Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?”


― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Two Towers

also:


Ashley answered 7 years ago
You can definitely die from an overdose of propanolol. It slows the heart, and overdoses will stop the heart:
"Propranolol was the only beta blocker associated with death"

[Hip Hipnotist]

Thanks for all of this....overwhelming!

ya lol I got the flu now. :(

Serves ya right for not gettin' a flu shot!

Oh, I am so kidding.

But you knew that.

Get well fast, my friend.

My professional Rx: The Cartoon Channel! Three times daily. With or without food. ;)

[DNA]

Hi, DNA.

If you are having trouble navigating this thread about my impressions of Philip Hoffman's life and death,
and the possibility of this death (among others) being linked to Satanism or other occult activities,
I would recommend starting a new thread -- completely different from this one. :nod:

This one can't be shortened to your preferences without deleting posts,
and threads on Avalon don't get shorter unless something is wrong with them. Nice try, though.

Since you were the first to criticize this thread, by the way, I think it's only fair that you be the one to start another.

:) Maybe it will be better, or at least, more organized.
After all, I don't have much experience with these things.


Greetings WTC, and first off thank you for the lengthy reply. I would first like to state that many times on this medium folks take something a little bit more serious than it was intended by the writer.
I wasn't criticizing the thread as much as I was your individual posts on the thread. The thread can be as long and convulated as one would like. The longer the thread, then hopefully the more folks who are posting and increasing it's size.

I was just making a statement in terms of increasing the efficiancy of communication. I do not think I am alone when it comes to individual posts looking like a three page editorial out of the New York Times, I tend to by-pass it and read something that is more encapsulated.

You may feel this is a shortcoming in my attention span, and that may be, but I feel I am making a general statement on the forum as a medium and as a means of communication with folks being used to smaller sample sizes of information. And the fun of this forum for me is having my information pre-digested. That is, having a smart person research something that interests them and then giving me their cliff noted opinion on the matter.











DNA, when I joined the forum, it was at a time when a certain user was in the process of leaving. She was a very bright cookie, but her posts were 10x as strange and confusing as this thread. There were terms and phrases that at best seemed like palindromes of each other -- nonsensical plays on words. Nothing I could take away from it without studying it for a YEAR or longer. Now.

The person you refer to was a rare intellect. And though I think she could have shortened some of her posts as well, her words were hers, where as what I am criticizing with your thread is all the copied links and articles that people just for the most part do not have the time to go through.

In short, if you post a thread with these references, I"m hoping you have already read them and you are going to give the synopsis and interpretation you were left with after reading and or studying them.




Although I grant you the connections I've drawn are shaky at best, none of the material in here is original -- .

Look, maybe you were having a bad day when you read what I posted because you really seem to be taking it to heart and doing some quite fantastic projecting.
It was just a quip.




maybe someone has a bit of a problem with me researching this topic? I would hate to think that. So for now, I won't assume it

Some of the stuff you are coming up with is really blowing me away.

Aren't you kind of a junior mod? I mean with the greeter title and all? So don't you kind of have to error on the side of being nice rather than make outlandish statements?





But telling a person on a conspiracy-related forum that "there is no conspiracy" when my own goddamned Freemason family tried to lock me up to hide it, gosh. It's pretty amazing -- I'd like to have some of your optimism. Because right now, the smile has been SO wiped off my face. :jaw: I feel like, we are strangers?

I never said there was "no" conspiracy.

I stated

I'm torn whether there is any kind of conspiracy here.

That is a far cry from throwing down the gauntlet and stating I have made my mind up. And even if I had, I'm a pretty open minded dude ready to hear any new interesting and intriguing data.




Your post refers to human sacrifice more than once-- yes, I've read the legend about Merlin and the two dragons, and the blood on the cornerstone -- but really?
I mean, our lives are saved daily by the lowest form of life on earth, the microbe -- and people are still willing to subscribe to the belief that human sacrifice should be accepted as normal because of its historical prevalence?


I do not understand your metaphor. I"m not abdicating nor am I legitimizing the practice of human sacrifice. I don't think I said enough for you to have put anything definitive in my mouth. I simply acknowledge it's historical prevalence.

And, since the purpose of knowing history is so you can better understand the present I think it safe to say that folks are still doing it.

Are you arguing semantics here? Is this a case of you feeling Hoffman was killed to silence his possible whistle blowing and my stating if he was killed it was probably done so to christen the project he was participating in with blood?

I see no need for an argument here. Debate maybe, or even better a mutually beneficial dialogue.

I'm only speculating.



What if it wasn't about "Hunger Games" at all? Did you think that because I used some images from the show that I meant his death was important somehow to the franchise? Maybe they will make more money, maybe not. But who gave him the role?

Has anyone in my country ever once thought about what would be living and thriving in the places where all those cold stones have been piled up by people like that? Places like Whitman Mission, Washington D.C., that damned Stonehenge monument on the Columbia River, things like that? I'd like to know what was there before 'they' destroyed everything that was beautiful about it. God made the world just fine before people screwed it up. In fact, we wouldn't even live in houses and be stuck in one place if it wasn't for the Masons. We are on the grid, living in neat little rows, with every name and number on record, thanks to Masons.


Look you can get pissed off at the masons all you want. But getting mad at the masons because we live in a society where houses and street blocks exist isn't going to elicit too many sympathizers.





I'd rather live in a cardboard box and be free than live in a mansion and care what people like that think about life. They don't live it. They imprison it.


I would like to think I have more than those two choices in the matter.
But if those are the only choices.




So many picturesque and historical American treasures, covered up and befouled by the ugly monuments and lifeless concrete?

I mean really, I can't even stand the sidewalk in Hollywood -- and that's something most people appreciate seeing. I don't like being confronted by the memory of the dead when I least expect it.

There are many spirits who died without happiness. I don't know their names unless I am standing on their graves, and thanks to what just happened to Philip Hoffman, that's all that people are going to have to remember him by. Aside from the trash Hollywood threw his way. I would rather have the man than the machine any day.

Movies are less real to me than the souls of the people who created them. Any clown with a CGI setup can fool the eyes into believing, fool the heart into loving the form on the screen. So many Americans sleepwalking through life with the blinders on, taking nothing but the "official word" on a subject -- the prettiest film production is the most believable. I barely watch Youtube because of this mentality. Unless it's a documentary or a music video, what's the point? No one has anything new to say anymore.

Because I am aware, my eyes are open in fact to it, of the abuse that so many movie stars endure to reach fame, my mind is open to suspicion.

Too many people have been dying this way for me to be silent -- Jimi Hendrix, for example. Did he inhale a whole bottle of red wine by himself? Can you imagine being drowned in alcohol, how painful and frightening that would be? How ****ing racist it was for those jokers to do him like that?

Sorry but this whole conversation pisses me off.
Did I waste enough time answering questions?

Should I even bother pointing out that the thread title mentions "Ezekiel Moss" and not "Hunger Games"? Hoffman wasn't the DIRECTOR of Hunger Games, and if you read the thread completely you might realize, a lot of directors have died during, before, and after their first production...

What do you think about that? The list of directors I posted who died after making politically incorrect films, anti-establishment films?

Did you even see the bit about Heath Ledger wanting to direct movies, or that Hoffman was literally walking around Sundance telling complete strangers about his heroin problem?

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Not sure what to say except, I hope this doesn't derail the thread.
And that human sacrifice surely isn't a Christian principle -- if you think that "churches and edifices in general required human blood" in order to be successful, please elaborate. I am waiting.

:tinfoil3:


I do not know why I am engaging in this dialogue. This whole retort of yours is incredibly hostile.

As far as I know "ezekial moss" was never made. So how was this going to be some awe-inspring whistle blower piece? Unless you have a script or atleast a synopsis, you are just guessing. You are seeing something that no one has in the least added anything credible to. He might as well have been directing the remake for "Puff The Magic Dragon".





I personally do not believe in Demonizing the masons. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience, but I do not think you can state your experience with a few people is a basis for judging all of these folks.

I also do not believe the masons are so all powerfull as to be behind all of these negative events you are talking about.


Look, I"m going to summarize and state everything in a few statements here.


WTC, a lot of folks work. We work a lot of hours in order to survive. And such, most of us do not have the time to read gigantic super big POSTS.
Some of what you were stating looked intrguing, and I mostly wanted to know what you thought in a summary so as I wouldn't have to invest so much time.

This response of yours is a good example of what I am talking about.
This is a freaking book of a response when you consider what it is in response to.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Hi, DNA.

If you are having trouble navigating this thread about my impressions of Philip Hoffman's life and death,
and the possibility of this death (among others) being linked to Satanism or other occult activities,
I would recommend starting a new thread -- completely different from this one. :nod:

This one can't be shortened to your preferences without deleting posts,
and threads on Avalon don't get shorter unless something is wrong with them. Nice try, though.

Since you were the first to criticize this thread, by the way, I think it's only fair that you be the one to start another.

:) Maybe it will be better, or at least, more organized.
After all, I don't have much experience with these things.


Greetings WTC, and first off thank you for the lengthy reply. I would first like to state that many times on this medium folks take something a little bit more serious than it was intended by the writer.
I wasn't criticizing the thread as much as I was your individual posts on the thread. The thread can be as long and convulated as one would like. The longer the thread, then hopefully the more folks who are posting and increasing it's size.

I was just making a statement in terms of increasing the efficiancy of communication. I do not think I am alone when it comes to individual posts looking like a three page editorial out of the New York Times, I tend to by-pass it and read something that is more encapsulated.

You may feel this is a shortcoming in my attention span, and that may be, but I feel I am making a general statement on the forum as a medium and as a means of communication with folks being used to smaller sample sizes of information. And the fun of this forum for me is having my information pre-digested. That is, having a smart person research something that interests them and then giving me their cliff noted opinion on the matter.











DNA, when I joined the forum, it was at a time when a certain user was in the process of leaving. She was a very bright cookie, but her posts were 10x as strange and confusing as this thread. There were terms and phrases that at best seemed like palindromes of each other -- nonsensical plays on words. Nothing I could take away from it without studying it for a YEAR or longer. Now.

The person you refer to was a rare intellect. And though I think she could have shortened some of her posts as well, her words were hers, where as what I am criticizing with your thread is all the copied links and articles that people just for the most part do not have the time to go through.

In short, if you post a thread with these references, I"m hoping you have already read them and you are going to give the synopsis and interpretation you were left with after reading and or studying them.




Although I grant you the connections I've drawn are shaky at best, none of the material in here is original -- .

Look, maybe you were having a bad day when you read what I posted because you really seem to be taking it to heart and doing some quite fantastic projecting.
It was just a quip.




maybe someone has a bit of a problem with me researching this topic? I would hate to think that. So for now, I won't assume it

Some of the stuff you are coming up with is really blowing me away.

Aren't you kind of a junior mod? I mean with the greeter title and all? So don't you kind of have to error on the side of being nice rather than make outlandish statements?





But telling a person on a conspiracy-related forum that "there is no conspiracy" when my own goddamned Freemason family tried to lock me up to hide it, gosh. It's pretty amazing -- I'd like to have some of your optimism. Because right now, the smile has been SO wiped off my face. :jaw: I feel like, we are strangers?

I never said there was "no" conspiracy.

I stated

I'm torn whether there is any kind of conspiracy here.

That is a far cry from throwing down the gauntlet and stating I have made my mind up. And even if I had, I'm a pretty open minded dude ready to hear any new interesting and intriguing data.




Your post refers to human sacrifice more than once-- yes, I've read the legend about Merlin and the two dragons, and the blood on the cornerstone -- but really?
I mean, our lives are saved daily by the lowest form of life on earth, the microbe -- and people are still willing to subscribe to the belief that human sacrifice should be accepted as normal because of its historical prevalence?


I do not understand your metaphor. I"m not abdicating nor am I legitimizing the practice of human sacrifice. I don't think I said enough for you to have put anything definitive in my mouth. I simply acknowledge it's historical prevalence.

And, since the purpose of knowing history is so you can better understand the present I think it safe to say that folks are still doing it.

Are you arguing semantics here? Is this a case of you feeling Hoffman was killed to silence his possible whistle blowing and my stating if he was killed it was probably done so to christen the project he was participating in with blood?

I see no need for an argument here. Debate maybe, or even better a mutually beneficial dialogue.

I'm only speculating.



What if it wasn't about "Hunger Games" at all? Did you think that because I used some images from the show that I meant his death was important somehow to the franchise? Maybe they will make more money, maybe not. But who gave him the role?

Has anyone in my country ever once thought about what would be living and thriving in the places where all those cold stones have been piled up by people like that? Places like Whitman Mission, Washington D.C., that damned Stonehenge monument on the Columbia River, things like that? I'd like to know what was there before 'they' destroyed everything that was beautiful about it. God made the world just fine before people screwed it up. In fact, we wouldn't even live in houses and be stuck in one place if it wasn't for the Masons. We are on the grid, living in neat little rows, with every name and number on record, thanks to Masons.


Look you can get pissed off at the masons all you want. But getting mad at the masons because we live in a society where houses and street blocks exist isn't going to elicit too many sympathizers.





I'd rather live in a cardboard box and be free than live in a mansion and care what people like that think about life. They don't live it. They imprison it.


I would like to think I have more than those two choices in the matter.
But if those are the only choices.




So many picturesque and historical American treasures, covered up and befouled by the ugly monuments and lifeless concrete?

I mean really, I can't even stand the sidewalk in Hollywood -- and that's something most people appreciate seeing. I don't like being confronted by the memory of the dead when I least expect it.

There are many spirits who died without happiness. I don't know their names unless I am standing on their graves, and thanks to what just happened to Philip Hoffman, that's all that people are going to have to remember him by. Aside from the trash Hollywood threw his way. I would rather have the man than the machine any day.

Movies are less real to me than the souls of the people who created them. Any clown with a CGI setup can fool the eyes into believing, fool the heart into loving the form on the screen. So many Americans sleepwalking through life with the blinders on, taking nothing but the "official word" on a subject -- the prettiest film production is the most believable. I barely watch Youtube because of this mentality. Unless it's a documentary or a music video, what's the point? No one has anything new to say anymore.

Because I am aware, my eyes are open in fact to it, of the abuse that so many movie stars endure to reach fame, my mind is open to suspicion.

Too many people have been dying this way for me to be silent -- Jimi Hendrix, for example. Did he inhale a whole bottle of red wine by himself? Can you imagine being drowned in alcohol, how painful and frightening that would be? How ****ing racist it was for those jokers to do him like that?

Sorry but this whole conversation pisses me off.
Did I waste enough time answering questions?

Should I even bother pointing out that the thread title mentions "Ezekiel Moss" and not "Hunger Games"? Hoffman wasn't the DIRECTOR of Hunger Games, and if you read the thread completely you might realize, a lot of directors have died during, before, and after their first production...

What do you think about that? The list of directors I posted who died after making politically incorrect films, anti-establishment films?

Did you even see the bit about Heath Ledger wanting to direct movies, or that Hoffman was literally walking around Sundance telling complete strangers about his heroin problem?

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Not sure what to say except, I hope this doesn't derail the thread.
And that human sacrifice surely isn't a Christian principle -- if you think that "churches and edifices in general required human blood" in order to be successful, please elaborate. I am waiting.

:tinfoil3:


I do not know why I am engaging in this dialogue. This whole retort of yours is incredibly hostile.

As far as I know "ezekial moss" was never made. So how was this going to be some awe-inspring whistle blower piece? Unless you have a script or atleast a synopsis, you are just guessing. You are seeing something that no one has in the least added anything credible to. He might as well have been directing the remake for "Puff The Magic Dragon".





I personally do not believe in Demonizing the masons. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience, but I do not think you can state your experience with a few people is a basis for judging all of these folks.

I also do not believe the masons are so all powerfull as to be behind all of these negative events you are talking about.


Look, I"m going to summarize and state everything in a few statements here.


WTC, a lot of folks work. We work a lot of hours in order to survive. And such, most of us do not have the time to read gigantic super big POSTS.
Some of what you were stating looked intrguing, and I mostly wanted to know what you thought in a summary so as I wouldn't have to invest so much time.

This response of yours is a good example of what I am talking about.
This is a freaking book of a response when you consider what it is in response to.

You have a personal problem with me, obviously, and I do not care in the least if you are enjoying this thread.
You can go read the other ones, and post in those.

You've already said that you don't like the posts in this thread.
It's my thread, sorry, and I don't give a damn if you like it.

I am not going to stop believing what I believe just because some 3-letter-word said so.

Nor will I shorten this thread, or remove anything about the Satanic SET worshipping Masons or the Satanic Hollywood drug culture.

If you miss the other female so bad, please join her in the Mists, if she didn't flake out too much to join the other group.

Your initial criticism of this thread was hostile. I absolutely DO NOT care in the LEAST whether you like it or not.

Absolutely don't care.

But if you care, you do the work -- I won't do it twice -- and sorry about your distaste for working -- I sell on Ebay and have no trouble there,
so maybe you should assume less.

Do you think women don't work or something? I worked on airplanes for almost 6 years, and frankly most Masons wouldn't have aced the Air Force tests.
That's why they don't control everything, sweetheart.


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Did someone put you up to this btw or was it all in your head?
p.s. since you aptly point out that I copy pasted most info in here,
you should understand that I am not demonizing the Masons, but sharing other people's opinions on the matter, including those of ex Masons.

so... your point? You've contributed nothing to this discussion at all.

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68253-SET-the-Egyptian-God-of-Foreigners-Baphomet-and-Entities-Respected-by-Freemasonry&p=794666#post794666

"SET", the Egyptian God of Foreigners, Baphomet, and Entities Respected by Freemasonry

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p.s. this thread isn't for unrepentant satanists and secret society members who have a monopoly on the occult.

:( lol

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

CNN has moved the Hoffman case to the bottom of its front page as of today, but here:

Naloxone: Could it have saved Hoffman?

Erin Burnett Out Front|Added on February 4, 2014
Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Erin Burnett discuss Naloxone and its ability to reverse the effects of a heroin overdose.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/02/05/erin-gupta-naloxone-treatment-for-heroin-hoffman-death.cnn.html

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A very skewed and twisted account defending drug peddlers by two corrupt lawyers who wrote this crap for CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/opinion/kirchner-protass-hoffman-dealers/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

Can dealers face murder charges in Hoffman's death?
By Isabelle Kirshner and Harlan Protass
updated 8:42 AM EST, Fri February 7, 2014

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140203145048-hoffman-us-front-story-top.jpg

Editor's note: Isabelle Kirshner and Harlan Protass are criminal defense lawyers in New York and partners at Clayman & Rosenberg LLP.
(CNN) -- Earlier this week, New York police arrested four people suspected of selling heroin to actor Philip Seymour Hoffman, who later died from a heroin overdose. But the police haven't yet connected them to the drugs that killed Hoffman. Assuming law enforcement does -- and they might because the actor's telephone number was found on the cell phone belonging to one of the suspects -- can those suspects be held responsible for Hoffman's death?

The simple answer is no. But that doesn't mean whoever sold heroin to Hoffman would be exempt from a heap of trouble.

In New York, homicide is defined as "conduct which causes the death of a person." But not all homicides are the same. Homicide is defined in several "grades," ranging from criminally negligent homicide to manslaughter to actual murder. All share one basic requirement: intent to cause death or, at least, death arising from grossly negligent or reckless conduct. In layman's terms, that means you either have to mean to kill someone, or know there's a risk of death and don't care about it.

By all accounts, the people who police believe sold heroin to Hoffman were ordinary drug dealers plying their illicit trade. They may not have cared who they sold to. They may not have cared that Hoffman had a history of drug and alcohol problems. And they may not have cared that they were feeding demons that had taken hold of Hoffman.

But it's also unlikely that those alleged dealers intended or believed that anyone, including Hoffman, would die using their product. Prosecutors also generally don't hold drug peddlers responsible for the consequences of their dealing, so it's unlikely that lawyers from the Manhattan District Attorney's Office believed the dealers did.
The people who police accuse of selling heroin to Hoffman could not even be charged with felony murder -- that is, a death happening during the course of committing another offense -- because New York's felony murder law only applies to robbery, burglary, rape and similar violent crimes.

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Turns out NYC turns a blind eye to this crap, huh?
Thought they were big bad thugs but they are only death merchants...

DEALERS. ALWAYS. BLAME. VICTIMS.

Don't you guys ever wonder why the cops don't care when prostitutes are found dead, even when someone else administered the heroin by force?

Also look into the Long Island Serial Killer, who is thought to be a COP!...

How come you NYC people don't care about others enough??


The Long Island Serial Killer (also referred to by media sources as the Gilgo Killer) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 14 people associated with the sex trade over a period of 15 years and dumped their bodies along the Ocean Parkway, near the remote Long Island beach towns of Gilgo Beach and Oak Beach in Suffolk County and the area of Jones Beach State Park in Nassau County.

The remains of four victims were found in December 2010, while six more sets of remains were found in March and April 2011.[1][2][3] Police believe that the latest sets of remains predate the four bodies found in December 2010.[4]

On May 9, 2011, authorities surmised that two of the newest sets of remains might be the work of a second killer.[5] On November 29, 2011, however, the police announced that they believe that one person is responsible for all 10 deaths and that they do not believe that the case of Shannan Gilbert (see below) is related.[6] According to Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota, "It is clear that the area in and around Gilgo Beach has been used to discard human remains for some period of time."[7]

I believe almost nothing those people say. The NYC authorities.


There has been much speculation in the media concerning the identity of the killer, currently known as "Unsub" - unknown subject.[22] Some profilers speculate that the killer could have ties to law enforcement due to his sophisticated knowledge of police procedures.[23] Others believe that the murderer is an organized killer, with a detailed knowledge of law enforcement techniques which have thus far helped him avoid detection, and that he is a white male and very familiar with the South Shore of Long Island.[22]

Some have speculated that serial killer and former Long Island resident Joel Rifkin may have been responsible for some of the older remains found in March and April 2011, as four of his victims' bodies were never found.[24] In an April 2011 prison interview with Newsday, Rifkin denied having anything to do with recently discovered remains.[24]

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Bottom Line and Last Word imo:

5 FEBRUARY 2014

A post-mortem on Hollywood actor Philip Seymour Hoffman's body is inconclusive, and tests will be needed to determine what caused his death, the New York City's medical examiner's office says.

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Hi, DNA.

If you are having trouble navigating this thread about my impressions of Philip Hoffman's life and death,
and the possibility of this death (among others) being linked to Satanism or other occult activities,
I would recommend starting a new thread -- completely different from this one. :nod:

This one can't be shortened to your preferences without deleting posts,
and threads on Avalon don't get shorter unless something is wrong with them. Nice try, though.

Since you were the first to criticize this thread, by the way, I think it's only fair that you be the one to start another.

:) Maybe it will be better, or at least, more organized.
After all, I don't have much experience with these things.


Greetings WTC, and first off thank you for the lengthy reply. I would first like to state that many times on this medium folks take something a little bit more serious than it was intended by the writer.
I wasn't criticizing the thread as much as I was your individual posts on the thread. The thread can be as long and convulated as one would like. The longer the thread, then hopefully the more folks who are posting and increasing it's size.

I was just making a statement in terms of increasing the efficiancy of communication. I do not think I am alone when it comes to individual posts looking like a three page editorial out of the New York Times, I tend to by-pass it and read something that is more encapsulated.

You may feel this is a shortcoming in my attention span, and that may be, but I feel I am making a general statement on the forum as a medium and as a means of communication with folks being used to smaller sample sizes of information. And the fun of this forum for me is having my information pre-digested. That is, having a smart person research something that interests them and then giving me their cliff noted opinion on the matter.











DNA, when I joined the forum, it was at a time when a certain user was in the process of leaving. She was a very bright cookie, but her posts were 10x as strange and confusing as this thread. There were terms and phrases that at best seemed like palindromes of each other -- nonsensical plays on words. Nothing I could take away from it without studying it for a YEAR or longer. Now.

The person you refer to was a rare intellect. And though I think she could have shortened some of her posts as well, her words were hers, where as what I am criticizing with your thread is all the copied links and articles that people just for the most part do not have the time to go through.

In short, if you post a thread with these references, I"m hoping you have already read them and you are going to give the synopsis and interpretation you were left with after reading and or studying them.




Although I grant you the connections I've drawn are shaky at best, none of the material in here is original -- .

Look, maybe you were having a bad day when you read what I posted because you really seem to be taking it to heart and doing some quite fantastic projecting.
It was just a quip.




maybe someone has a bit of a problem with me researching this topic? I would hate to think that. So for now, I won't assume it

Some of the stuff you are coming up with is really blowing me away.

Aren't you kind of a junior mod? I mean with the greeter title and all? So don't you kind of have to error on the side of being nice rather than make outlandish statements?





But telling a person on a conspiracy-related forum that "there is no conspiracy" when my own goddamned Freemason family tried to lock me up to hide it, gosh. It's pretty amazing -- I'd like to have some of your optimism. Because right now, the smile has been SO wiped off my face. :jaw: I feel like, we are strangers?

I never said there was "no" conspiracy.

I stated

I'm torn whether there is any kind of conspiracy here.

That is a far cry from throwing down the gauntlet and stating I have made my mind up. And even if I had, I'm a pretty open minded dude ready to hear any new interesting and intriguing data.




Your post refers to human sacrifice more than once-- yes, I've read the legend about Merlin and the two dragons, and the blood on the cornerstone -- but really?
I mean, our lives are saved daily by the lowest form of life on earth, the microbe -- and people are still willing to subscribe to the belief that human sacrifice should be accepted as normal because of its historical prevalence?


I do not understand your metaphor. I"m not abdicating nor am I legitimizing the practice of human sacrifice. I don't think I said enough for you to have put anything definitive in my mouth. I simply acknowledge it's historical prevalence.

And, since the purpose of knowing history is so you can better understand the present I think it safe to say that folks are still doing it.

Are you arguing semantics here? Is this a case of you feeling Hoffman was killed to silence his possible whistle blowing and my stating if he was killed it was probably done so to christen the project he was participating in with blood?

I see no need for an argument here. Debate maybe, or even better a mutually beneficial dialogue.

I'm only speculating.



What if it wasn't about "Hunger Games" at all? Did you think that because I used some images from the show that I meant his death was important somehow to the franchise? Maybe they will make more money, maybe not. But who gave him the role?

Has anyone in my country ever once thought about what would be living and thriving in the places where all those cold stones have been piled up by people like that? Places like Whitman Mission, Washington D.C., that damned Stonehenge monument on the Columbia River, things like that? I'd like to know what was there before 'they' destroyed everything that was beautiful about it. God made the world just fine before people screwed it up. In fact, we wouldn't even live in houses and be stuck in one place if it wasn't for the Masons. We are on the grid, living in neat little rows, with every name and number on record, thanks to Masons.


Look you can get pissed off at the masons all you want. But getting mad at the masons because we live in a society where houses and street blocks exist isn't going to elicit too many sympathizers.





I'd rather live in a cardboard box and be free than live in a mansion and care what people like that think about life. They don't live it. They imprison it.


I would like to think I have more than those two choices in the matter.
But if those are the only choices.




So many picturesque and historical American treasures, covered up and befouled by the ugly monuments and lifeless concrete?

I mean really, I can't even stand the sidewalk in Hollywood -- and that's something most people appreciate seeing. I don't like being confronted by the memory of the dead when I least expect it.

There are many spirits who died without happiness. I don't know their names unless I am standing on their graves, and thanks to what just happened to Philip Hoffman, that's all that people are going to have to remember him by. Aside from the trash Hollywood threw his way. I would rather have the man than the machine any day.

Movies are less real to me than the souls of the people who created them. Any clown with a CGI setup can fool the eyes into believing, fool the heart into loving the form on the screen. So many Americans sleepwalking through life with the blinders on, taking nothing but the "official word" on a subject -- the prettiest film production is the most believable. I barely watch Youtube because of this mentality. Unless it's a documentary or a music video, what's the point? No one has anything new to say anymore.

Because I am aware, my eyes are open in fact to it, of the abuse that so many movie stars endure to reach fame, my mind is open to suspicion.

Too many people have been dying this way for me to be silent -- Jimi Hendrix, for example. Did he inhale a whole bottle of red wine by himself? Can you imagine being drowned in alcohol, how painful and frightening that would be? How ****ing racist it was for those jokers to do him like that?

Sorry but this whole conversation pisses me off.
Did I waste enough time answering questions?

Should I even bother pointing out that the thread title mentions "Ezekiel Moss" and not "Hunger Games"? Hoffman wasn't the DIRECTOR of Hunger Games, and if you read the thread completely you might realize, a lot of directors have died during, before, and after their first production...

What do you think about that? The list of directors I posted who died after making politically incorrect films, anti-establishment films?

Did you even see the bit about Heath Ledger wanting to direct movies, or that Hoffman was literally walking around Sundance telling complete strangers about his heroin problem?

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Not sure what to say except, I hope this doesn't derail the thread.
And that human sacrifice surely isn't a Christian principle -- if you think that "churches and edifices in general required human blood" in order to be successful, please elaborate. I am waiting.

:tinfoil3:


I do not know why I am engaging in this dialogue. This whole retort of yours is incredibly hostile.

As far as I know "ezekial moss" was never made. So how was this going to be some awe-inspring whistle blower piece? Unless you have a script or atleast a synopsis, you are just guessing. You are seeing something that no one has in the least added anything credible to. He might as well have been directing the remake for "Puff The Magic Dragon".





I personally do not believe in Demonizing the masons. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience, but I do not think you can state your experience with a few people is a basis for judging all of these folks.

I also do not believe the masons are so all powerfull as to be behind all of these negative events you are talking about.


Look, I"m going to summarize and state everything in a few statements here.


WTC, a lot of folks work. We work a lot of hours in order to survive. And such, most of us do not have the time to read gigantic super big POSTS.
Some of what you were stating looked intrguing, and I mostly wanted to know what you thought in a summary so as I wouldn't have to invest so much time.

This response of yours is a good example of what I am talking about.
This is a freaking book of a response when you consider what it is in response to.

in case he changes anything, copied --

he criticizes my work ethic and opinions on secret societies.

also doesn't answer any questions.

on top of that he initiated the argument then mocks me for answering him thoroughly.

Disgusting.

[bruno dante]

p.s. this thread isn't for unrepentant satanists and secret society members who have a monopoly on the occult.

:( lol


Damnit...and I had something important to say too;)

[DNA]

in case he changes anything, copied --

he criticizes my work ethic and opinions on secret societies.

also doesn't answer any questions.

on top of that he initiated the argument then mocks me for answering him thoroughly.

Disgusting.


I made a comment, and I swear to God I do not understand how I offended you.
I made what I considered a helpful little constructive tidbit.

I now see this wasn't taken well. I"m sorry I offended you.

I do not wish to engage in further dialogue for any reason what so ever. So your fear of being persecuted or something I can assure is farthest from my mind.

I bid you farewell, I will be blocking you so I will not see anything you write in the future.

I do not wish you any ill will. I honestly hope everything goes well for you. Good luck and best wishes

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Note to forum members:

On sites including ATS and Prisonplanet, we had a major Freemason infestation that became very visible over the last 10 years -- there were open Masons who displayed the insignia on their avatars, and also those who chose not to reveal their affiliations while still supporting the "craft".

Long story short, they would come into threads like this one to defend Masonry in general, without contributing anything useful or constructive to the thread.
Meaning, they would do anything they could to absolutely destroy the purpose of the thread and turn it into a quarrel about whether Masons are corrupt.

This was way before I started doing any research on ritual murders, murders for revenge, Masons murdering other Masons over sexual infractions and money, etc.

Most of you are probably following the Chris Christie scandal, right? His affiliations with the Mafia, etc.?

The side of the story you probably aren't hearing, and won't, should be obvious to you guys.

p.s. Since genius up there "blocked" my profile, can you guys remove his posts from this thread, maybe the whole dialogue between the two of us?
I don't need help or advice from someone like him; that's what a friendslist is for.

Hopefully this thread got Avalon some intelligent hits; remember, you don't have to be right the first time -- you have to be dedicated, to make sense of situations where not all factors are obvious at first glance.

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The mods are threatening to ban me over the disagreement with DNA.

Just FYI for my "friends" here.

[ThePythonicCow]

The mods are threatening to ban me over the disagreement with DNA.
That misrepresents what we said.

[bruno dante]

If I may...

We're all sensitive souls here, and it can be incredibly difficult to even offer constructive criticism sometimes, even with the best of intent. How do I know? Because I've been offered constructive crit in my life many times, and if I'm being perfectly honest, felt (at least initially) wounded by it a little. And my cynical side was always left wondering if it truly was "constructive" or just a subtle way to get a dig in while cloaking it in concern or magniminity.

I can see where DNA is coming from. I'm what you'd call a skimmer, and larger posts tend to scare me off...not because I don't want intellectual stimulation, but because I'm pressed for time. When I see an excessively wordy post loaded with links, I feel defeated before I even begin. It's just too much. At the same time, I do admire and respect the effort that went into it.

What am I trying to say?
Well, when someone puts their heart and soul into a post, like Tesla often does, I can see how she might feel a bit insulted or hurt when asked to reduce her effort, no matter how sincere the suggestion. And I can see how easily that might be the genesis of an argument or misunderstanding. I know this because Tesla and I got off on the wrong foot the other day too, I believe.

Reading this thread, and a similar one started a few days back, it seems to me that Tesla may be too smart for her own good. And I say that lovingly! Ut oh, constructive crit coming right up! It may be that you are spot on with your theories about Michael Jackson and PSHoffman ( I wouldn't be surprised) but when you started reading deeply into my avatar, suggesting it might be reflective of something sinister, I knew you were really over-shooting the mark. It was revealing. I think you may have taken a little residual cynicism from the mason infested place to here, unnecessarily. In my humble opinion.

There's an art to knowing when to draw your pistol and knowing when to keep it in its holster...and I think you have your pistol drawn 24/7. Now, even as I am offering a little constructive crit for perhaps being a little overzealous, I have to also confess to admiring you for it! And your posts, which are brilliant by the way, but perhaps a little too long -- I wouldn't have them any other way. It's the diversity that makes this place so cool.

In short, as a long time lurker and sometimes participator here, I can say with confidence that DNA meant no harm with his initial post. He seems a man of high integrity to me. I'm 100% certain that he is neither a troll nor a masonic apologist. This was just a textbook example of a misunderstanding gone awry. Tesla, you're brilliant. Keep up the good work. I'm quite certain that the mods here aren't the least bit interested in banning one of the forum's most prolific and intelligent posters.

[DNA]

If I may...

We're all sensitive souls here, and it can be incredibly difficult to even offer constructive criticism sometimes, even with the best of intent. How do I know? Because I've been offered constructive crit in my life many times, and if I'm being perfectly honest, felt (at least initially) wounded by it a little. And my cynical side was always left wondering if it truly was "constructive" or just a subtle way to get a dig in while cloaking it in concern or magniminity.

I can see where DNA is coming from. I'm what you'd call a skimmer, and larger posts tend to scare me off...not because I don't want intellectual stimulation, but because I'm pressed for time. When I see an excessively wordy post loaded with links, I feel defeated before I even begin. It's just too much. At the same time, I do admire and respect the effort that went into it.

What am I trying to say?
Well, when someone puts their heart and soul into a post, like Tesla often does, I can see how she might feel a bit insulted or hurt when asked to reduce her effort, no matter how sincere the suggestion. And I can see how easily that might be the genesis of an argument or misunderstanding. I know this because Tesla and I got off on the wrong foot the other day too, I believe.

Reading this thread, and a similar one started a few days back, it seems to me that Tesla may be too smart for her own good. And I say that lovingly! Ut oh, constructive crit coming right up! It may be that you are spot on with your theories about Michael Jackson and PSHoffman ( I wouldn't be surprised) but when you started reading deeply into my avatar, suggesting it might be reflective of something sinister, I knew you were really over-shooting the mark. It was revealing. I think you may have taken a little residual cynicism from the mason infested place to here, unnecessarily. In my humble opinion.

There's an art to knowing when to draw your pistol and knowing when to keep it in its holster...and I think you have your pistol drawn 24/7. Now, even as I am offering a little constructive crit for perhaps being a little overzealous, I have to also confess to admiring you for it! And your posts, which are brilliant by the way, but perhaps a little too long -- I wouldn't have them any other way. It's the diversity that makes this place so cool.

In short, as a long time lurker and sometimes participator here, I can say with confidence that DNA meant no harm with his initial post. He seems a man of high integrity to me. I'm 100% certain that he is neither a troll nor a masonic apologist. This was just a textbook example of a misunderstanding gone awry. Tesla, you're brilliant. Keep up the good work. I'm quite certain that the mods here aren't the least bit interested in banning one of the forum's most prolific and intelligent posters.

Thank You

I couldn't agree more.

Amazing how well you encapsulated everything.

Again, Thank You. :tea::hail::behindsofa:

[Alexander]

Interesting question. Per Randy Quaid, this would not be the first star to die mysteriously.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6MikhK3fa8

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The first of many media apologies to the Hoffman family?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/26/showbiz/seymour-hoffman-friend/index.html

National Enquirer apologizes over Philip Seymour Hoffman 'gay lover' story
By Michael Pearson, CNN
February 26, 2014 -- Updated 1717 GMT (0117 HKT)

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140226081749-esting-00000000-story-top.jpg

(CNN) -- The media got it wrong when it came to reporting about actor Philip Seymour Hoffman's death, the late Oscar winner's friend said Wednesday in an exclusive broadcast interview on CNN's "New Day."

Not only did the reporting inaccurately depict Hoffman as a man in a death spiral, playwright David Bar Katz said the press also was lax when it came to a National Enquirer story claiming he and Hoffman were lovers. The report, since debunked, was cited in mainstream outlets.

"I don't know why they did it," he said of the Enquirer. "I know that it's lousy journalism."

Katz sued the Enquirer over the story, reaching a settlement in which the tabloid agreed to fund an award for unpublished playwrights in Hoffman's memory.

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Interesting quotes there from his friends, but since the press already reported the inaccurate version of their truth,
no one is going to care. In fact me writing this feels pathetic already because no one ****ing cares now or did before.

:(

But I think the press was a bit early to say "heroin overdose" and there is still more to the story, we are just waiting forever for that toxicology.


Philip Seymour Hoffman's autopsy inconclusive; more tests pending ...
www.washingtonpost.com/.../philip-seymour-hoffman...The Washington Post
Feb 5, 2014 - Oscar-winning actor Philip Seymour Hoffman's autopsy produced inconclusive results and more tests will be conducted, a spokeswoman for ...

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Well guys, it wasn't just a heroin overdose after all :( This list is NOT complete nor does it include Rx drugs:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/28/showbiz/philip-seymour-hoffman-autopsy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Coroner: Philip Seymour Hoffman died of acute mixed drug intoxication
By Ray Sanchez, CNN
updated 6:50 PM EST, Fri February 28, 2014

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140203180607-nr-brooke-philip-seymour-hoffman-drugs-00000911-story-top.jpg

New York (CNN) -- Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman, who was found dead February 2 on the bathroom floor of his New York apartment with a syringe in his left arm, died of acute mixed drug intoxication, including heroin, cocaine, benzodiazepines and amphetamine, the New York medical examiner's office said Friday.

The manner of death was ruled an accident, the medical examiner's office said in a statement.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN's chief medical correspondent, said that as addicts take mixtures of drugs more chronically, they may not necessarily feel the effects of the narcotics, which still suppress the respiratory system.

"They're not feeling it, but it's still having an impact on their ability to breathe, and that's the real problem," he said. "It's called stacking. You can stack the same drug too close together, or you can start to stack other drugs, one on top of the other. That's how people get into trouble. They do call it accidental death as well."

Police found nearly 50 envelopes branded "Ace of Spades" filled with what they believe was heroin in the actor's Manhattan apartment, two law enforcement sources familiar with the inquiry said.

Used syringes, prescription drugs and empty bags that authorities suspect were used to hold heroin also were found in the apartment where Hoffman, 46, was found dead, sources said.

He was expected to pick up his children that day but didn't show up, the official said. Playwright David Katz and another person went to the apartment and found him dead, the official said.

Police officers found him in a T-shirt and shorts with his eyeglasses still on his head.

Robert Vineberg, a 57-year-old musician, was arrested in connection with Hoffman's death and released on bail earlier this month. Vineberg was among four people arrested in Manhattan in the days after Hoffman's death.

Prosecutors said Vineberg, who was arrested on a felony charge of criminal possession of a controlled substance, had just under 50 small bags of heroin as well as packaging paraphernalia in his apartment during a raid. In another one of his apartments in the same Mott Street building, prosecutors said, 250 small bags of heroin were found.

Vineberg was found to have the actor's phone number stored in his cell phone, a law enforcement official told CNN.

Two other people arrested in connection with Hoffman's death -- Juliana Luchkiw and Max Rosenblum, both 22 -- were released earlier this month until their next court dates.
Prosecutors did not file charges against a fourth person arrested in the raid.

Hoffman was mourned in New York February 7 in a star-studded private funeral attended by family and close friends.

Hoffman, who was nominated for Academy Awards four times, won the Oscar for best actor in 2006 for his portrayal of writer Truman Capote in "Capote." He earned Academy Award nominations for roles in "Charlie Wilson's War," "Doubt," and "The Master."

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Benzodiazepines are often prescribed for a wide range of conditions:

They can be very useful in intensive care to sedate patients receiving mechanical ventilation or those in extreme distress. Caution is exercised in this situation due to the occasional occurrence of respiratory depression, and it is recommended that benzodiazepine overdose treatment facilities should be available.[45]

[Lifebringer]

Hi, Marlowe!

A lot of bad crap happened 3/11/11.
Earthquake and a shooting? etc.
And the celebration of "Inle gallery" art exhibit with the black rabbit in all the paintings,
was 3/11/11

I don't like numbers crap but 3 + (1+1) + (1+1) = 322 :( lol

not cool is it!

Hey Tesla.....I'm not into numbers when they get too complicated but I like codes....

"However I noticed the Dow lost over 300 points that Friday.....& it does appear at this date that the markets have been going mostly down since 1/24/14....2 small up days and 6 solid down days......So I think we are going into a economic meltdown at this early stage ...Time will tell....:-([/U]

I'm thinking it's a reset to make stuff right, even though the share holders are the ones taking the loss, as the elites don't go to jail in a deal w/prosecutors of NY. Remember JPMorgan has cameras and connections to the popo, so they might be doing a reset to avoid jail and pay back losses this way, so they actually don't lose a dime. Just thinking, they never want to take a loss, and they will rob peter/tax payers, to pay paul/UncleSam

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p.s. does anyone here know much about Benzodiazepines?


A benzodiazepine /ˌbɛnzɵdaɪˈæzɨpiːn/ (sometimes colloquially "benzo"; often abbreviated "BZD") is a psychoactive drug whose core chemical structure is the fusion of a benzene ring and a diazepine ring. The first such drug, chlordiazepoxide (Librium), was discovered accidentally by Leo Sternbach in 1955, and made available in 1960 by Hoffmann–La Roche, which has also marketed the benzodiazepine diazepam (Valium) since 1963.[1]

Benzodiazepines enhance the effect of the neurotransmitter gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) at the GABAA receptor, resulting in sedative, hypnotic (sleep-inducing), anxiolytic (anti-anxiety), euphoric, anticonvulsant, and muscle relaxant properties; also seen in the applied pharmacology of high doses of many shorter-acting benzodiazepines are amnesic-dissociative actions.[2] These properties make benzodiazepines useful in treating anxiety, insomnia, agitation, seizures, muscle spasms, alcohol withdrawal and as a premedication for medical or dental procedures.[3] Benzodiazepines are categorized as either short-, intermediate-, or long-acting. Short- and intermediate-acting benzodiazepines are preferred for the treatment of insomnia; longer-acting benzodiazepines are recommended for the treatment of anxiety.[4]

In general, benzodiazepines are safe and effective in the short term, although cognitive impairments and paradoxical effects such as aggression or behavioral disinhibition occasionally occur. A minority react reverse and contrary to what would normally be expected. For example, a state of panic may worsen considerably following intake of a benzodiazepine.[5] Long-term use is controversial due to concerns about adverse psychological and physical effects, increased questioning of effectiveness, and, because benzodiazepines are prone to cause tolerance, physical dependence, and, upon cessation of use after long-term use, a withdrawal syndrome.[6][7] Due to adverse effects associated with the long-term use of benzodiazepines, withdrawal from benzodiazepines, in general, leads to improved physical and mental health.[8][9] The elderly are at an increased risk of suffering from both short- and long-term adverse effects,[8][10] including an associated roughly 50% increase in the risk of dementia.[11]

There is controversy concerning the safety of benzodiazepines in pregnancy. While they are not major teratogens, uncertainty remains as to whether they cause cleft palate in a small number of babies and whether neurobehavioural effects occur as a result of prenatal exposure;[12] they are known to cause withdrawal symptoms in the newborn. Benzodiazepines can be taken in overdoses and can cause dangerous deep unconsciousness. However, they are much less toxic than their predecessors, the barbiturates, and death rarely results when a benzodiazepine is the only drug taken; however, when combined with other central nervous system depressants such as alcohol and opiates, the potential for toxicity and fatal overdose increases.[13] Benzodiazepines are commonly misused and taken in combination with other drugs of abuse.[14][15][16] In addition, all benzodiazepines are listed in Beers List, which is significant in clinical practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine


Alcohol withdrawal

Chlordiazepoxide is the most commonly used benzodiazepine for alcohol detoxification,[40] but diazepam may be used as an alternative. Both are used in the detoxification of individuals who are motivated to stop drinking, and are prescribed for a short period of time to reduce the risks of developing tolerance and dependence to the benzodiazepine medication itself.[17]:275 The benzodiazepines with a longer half-life make detoxification more tolerable, and dangerous alcohol withdrawal effects are less likely to occur. On the other hand, short-acting benzodiazepines may lead to breakthrough seizures, and are, therefore, not recommended for detoxification in an outpatient setting. Oxazepam and lorazepam are often used in patients at risk of drug accumulation, in particular, the elderly and those with cirrhosis, because they are metabolized differently from other benzodiazepines, through conjugation.[41][42]

Benzodiazepines are the preferred choice in the management of alcohol withdrawal syndrome, in particular, for the prevention and treatment of the dangerous complication of seizures and in subduing severe delirium.[43] Lorazepam is the only benzodiazepine with predictable intramuscular absorption and it is the most effective in preventing and controlling acute seizures.[44]


Benzodiazepines are often prescribed for a wide range of conditions:

They can be very useful in intensive care to sedate patients receiving mechanical ventilation or those in extreme distress. Caution is exercised in this situation due to the occasional occurrence of respiratory depression, and it is recommended that benzodiazepine overdose treatment facilities should be available.[45]

The local doctor was close to giving this **** to my 6 year old kid.
The stuff that was in Hoffman when he croaked.


Benzodiazepines can make it harder to learn and
remember new information and to do certain
physical and mental tasks. These abilities return to
normal once the effect of the drug wears off.
When used to help you get to sleep, benzodiazepines
can have some “hangover” effects, such as morning
and daytime drowsiness.


at higher doses, side-effects can include confusion,
disorientation, amnesia, breathing difficulties
and depression. Other possible effects, which are
extremely rare, include agitation, hallucinations and
nightmares. Reducing the dose can help to reduce
side-effects

https://knowledgex.camh.net/amhspecialists/resources_families/Documents/UPM_Benzodiazepines.pdf

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check this out:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/04/11/nr-dnt-griffin-captain-phillips-ship-mystery.cnn.html

Doubt surrounds 'Phillips' ship mystery


CNN Newsroom|Added on April 11, 2014

Police say drugs were near two former U.S. Navy SEALs found dead on the Maersk Alabama, their families disagree.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564145/Two-ex-Navy-SEALS-protecting-Captain-Philips-ship-die-mysterious-circumstances-no-sign-physical-trauma.html

Two ex-Navy SEALS protecting Captain Philips ship found dead 'after apparent heroin overdose'

Two former US Navy SEALS have been found dead on the Maersk Alabama in the Seychelles
Seychelles police identified the men on Thursday as Jeffrey Reynolds and Mark Kennedy. The men, both 44, were found dead on Tuesday
Both served in the elite Navy SEALS before beginning work for private defense contractor
The cause of the men's death is believed to be a heroin overdose
The Maersk Alabama was targeted by Somali pirates in an attempted hijacking off the east coast of Africa in 2009.
The 2013 film Captain Phillips is based on the incident

By James Nye

Published: 14:45 EST, 20 February 2014 | Updated: 14:57 EST, 21 February 2014

Two American security workers have been found dead after an apparent heroin overdose in the same cabin on the Maersk Alabama, the ship made famous by the Tom Hanks movie Captain Phillips in 2013.

Seychelles police identified them on Thursday as Jeffrey Reynolds and Mark Kennedy - both former Navy SEALs. The men, both 44, were found dead on Tuesday.

Officials say they found needles and heroin inside cabin where the two ex-special forces soldiers were bunking.

According to CNN a government official, who spoke on condition of not being identified, said the presence of drug traces and paraphernalia 'would suggest that their deaths were a result of drug overdose.'

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/20/article-2564145-1BAF6AE300000578-369_306x423.jpg

http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/philip%20seymour%20hoffman.jpg

?

"...was found dead Sunday in his Greenwich Village apartment with what law enforcement officials said was a syringe in his arm..."

"...Officials say they found needles and heroin inside cabin where the two ex-special forces soldiers were bunking..."

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when the mefloquine thing started happening people were saying, "navy seals don't kill themselves"

apparently the US media has a much dimmer view of movie stars.

we are supposed to believe that they are the willing sacrificial lamb.

that someone with a promising future would throw a life away.

i mean people like me go thru hell almost daily and don't kill ourselves.
we think about it sometimes but we don't do it.

these people are DOING IT......

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February 2nd is a day of human sacrifice in the Satanic calendar. 2014 is the Chinese year of the horse. The name Phillip-lover of hoses. A street name for heroin -horse. There are quite a few horses being used in advertising, etc. this year.

The two security officers found dead on board the Maersk Alabama, a boat piloted by Captain Phillips (lover of horses) on 2/18/2014. 2 + 1 + 8=11. 2 +0 + 1 +4=7. 7/11 backwards. Maesk-danish for marsh. Both men were 44, the occult master number of materialization. Mark Kennedy and Jeffrey Reynolds, the two ex-Navy Seals worked for a security company named Trident out of Virginia Beach, VA.

The Alabama transports food aid to East Africa in support of the U.S. government's 'Food for Peace' program, according to Maersk Line. Crew members also help support the Bee Hive Children's Home in Mombasa, Kenya. Bees symbolism again. Bee is an ancient symbol of the goddess and the Queen.

The first horse of the four horseman of the Apocalypse -white horse of conquest. In her song "Adore You" video remix Miley Cyrus is recently pictured naked on a white horse.

Trident and Neptune symbology also figures into this weird mess as well and is tied to MH 370, Superman Man of Steel movie and possibly to the death of Peaches Geldorf, follower of Aleister Crowley, on 4/07/2014. 4 + 7=11, 2 + 0 +1 +4=7. 7/11 backwards. See Mark Gray's video for more information.

His website: http://www.cosmicdoorways.net/CosmicDoorways/COSMIC_DOORWAYS.html

Red Ice Interview with him:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/04/RIR-140402.php

His Face Book page where he does most of his current work:

https://www.facebook.com/mark.gray.129?ref=profile

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Also, these videos:

http://www.maxresistance.com/the-trident-rabbit-hole/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFvF4d7g0b4&feature=youtu.be

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February 2nd is a day of human sacrifice in the Satanic calendar. 2014 is the Chinese year of the horse. The name Phillip-lover of hoses. A street name for heroin -horse. There are quite a few horses being used in advertising, etc. this year.

The two security officers found dead on board the Maersk Alabama, a boat piloted by Captain Phillips (lover of horses) on 2/18/2014. 2 + 1 + 8=11. 2 +0 + 1 +4=7. 7/11 backwards. Maesk-danish for marsh. Both men were 44, the occult master number of materialization. Mark Kennedy and Jeffrey Reynolds, the two ex-Navy Seals worked for a security company named Trident out of Virginia Beach, VA.

The Alabama transports food aid to East Africa in support of the U.S. government's 'Food for Peace' program, according to Maersk Line. Crew members also help support the Bee Hive Children's Home in Mombasa, Kenya. Bees symbolism again. Bee is an ancient symbol of the goddess and the Queen.

The first horse of the four horseman of the Apocalypse -white horse of conquest. In her song "Adore You" video remix Miley Cyrus is recently pictured naked on a white horse.

Trident and Neptune symbology also figures into this weird mess as well and is tied to MH 370, Superman Man of Steel movie and possibly to the death of Peaches Geldorf, follower of Aleister Crowley, on 4/07/2014. 4 + 7=11, 2 + 0 +1 +4=7. 7/11 backwards. See Mark Gray's video for more information.

His website: http://www.cosmicdoorways.net/CosmicDoorways/COSMIC_DOORWAYS.html

Red Ice Interview with him:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/04/RIR-140402.php

His Face Book page where he does most of his current work:

https://www.facebook.com/mark.gray.129?ref=profile

I don't want to sound more cracked than usual but I think you're 100% on target with the dates and names.

I think there is something very dark happening in my dear country. :(

[Wind]

One of the last movies in which Philip starred in.

QwCS_On3VI0

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"A social worker for terrorists" lol!

p.s. great find with that film.
What a crazy story!!!!!

He seemed to be in so many spy movies!!!!!

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I wanted to point out to people who have had an Odic experience that white supremacists are twisting our beliefs:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/14/frazier-glenn-cross-racist-religion/


The 73-year-old has espoused anti-Semitism for decades. He also founded racist groups like a branch of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Both groups have deep ties to Christian white supremacists.

But according to Cross' 1999 biography, he is an adherent of Odinism, a neo-pagan religion that experts say has emerged as one the most vicious strains in the white supremacist movement.

"The faith’s obsession with genetic purity, racial supremacy and conquering supposedly lesser peoples is a recipe for violence," said Josh Glasstetter, campaign director for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Cross writes in his autobiography, "A White Man Speaks Out":

I'd love to see North America's 100 million Aryan Christians convert to the religion invented by their own race and practiced for a thousand generations before the Jews thought up Christianity.

Odinism! This was the religion for a strong heroic people, the Germanic people, from whose loins we all descended, be we German, English, Scott, Irish, or Scandinavian, in whole or in part.

Odin! Odin! Odin! Was the battle cry of our ancestors; their light eyes ablaze with the glare of the predator, as they swept over and conquered the decadent multi-racial Roman Empire.

And Valhalla does not accept Negroes. There's a sign over the pearly gates there which reads, "Whites only."



it simply is not true.

anyone can have an Odic experience...

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Whitney Houston's daughter found unresponsive in bathtub days right before Super Bowl 2015

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/31/entertainment/whitney-houston-daughter-unresponsive/index.html

Whitney Houston's daughter 'still alive and breathing' in hospital, police say
By Greg Botelho and John Newsome, CNN
Updated 6:28 PM ET, Sat January 31, 2015


(CNN)Whitney Houston's daughter Bobbi Kristina Brown was "still alive and breathing" in a hospital Saturday afternoon after being found face down in a bathtub full of water in Roswell, Georgia, police in the Atlanta suburb said.

Brown, 21, "was not breathing" when a man identified as her husband and a friend found her at about 10:25 a.m. at a townhouse in a Roswell subdivision, police spokeswoman Lisa Holland said. They called 911 and performed CPR until public safety officers arrived and took over, she said.

Brown was taken to North Fulton Hospital, where "she is still alive and breathing. Other than that, I don't know her condition," Holland said Saturday afternoon at a press briefing. It was unclear whether Brown was breathing on her own or with a respirator.

Nobody knows what caused Brown's unresponsiveness, Holland said, but police consider it a medical incident at this time. She said investigators had found nothing to indicate it was drug- or alcohol-related.

Police had been to the residence recently. Somebody reported a fight there January 23, but nobody answered the door and officers found no evidence of an altercation, Holland told CNN.

The police spokeswoman noted one oddity in the case: "Her mother died in the very same manner."

It was three years ago February 11 that Brown's mother, renowned signer Whitney Houston, was found dead -- in a bathtub -- in The Beverly Hilton, hours before she was to attend a pre-Grammys bash there.

Bobbi Kristina Brown appears at a Grammy Awards event last year.
Bobbi Kristina Brown appears at a Grammy Awards event last year.
An autopsy later revealed that she'd drowned face down in "extremely hot water" about 12 inches deep. The Los Angeles County coroner ruled it an accidental drowning with the "effects of atherosclerotic heart disease and cocaine use" being contributing factors.

Brown is her only child.

"She encourages me and inspires me," Houston once said of her daughter. "When I look at her eyes and I see myself, I go, 'Okay. I can do this. I can do this.'"

Daughter of acclaimed singer, R&B standout
Brown was born in 1993 during Houston's marriage to R&B singer Bobby Brown, which ended in divorce in 2007.

The daughter of music royalty became a public figure during the mid-2000s reality show "Being Bobby Brown," in which she frequently appeared alongside her parents and often had a front-row seat to their marital fireworks.

Mother and daughter even performed together on national TV in 2009, when the two sang "My Love Is Your Love" in Central Park on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Given the pair's close relationship, it's no surprise that Houston's death was a major blow.

Days after her mother's body was found, a grieving Bobbi Kristina -- then 18 -- was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center because she was "overwhelmed," family friend Kim Burrell said.

"She loves hard," Burrell said then of Bobbi Kristina. "She's going to be OK, and we're going to see to it."

Married a man who was taken in by Houston
As 2012 rolled on, speculation grew over whether the then-underage Brown was intoxicated during episodes of Lifetime's brief reality show "The Houstons: On Our Own," which followed life for the family after Houston's death.

One of that reality show's storylines revolved around Brown's relationship with Nick Gordon, who lived with Houston and her daughter from the age of 12.

Months later, Brown reportedly got engaged to Gordon.

And in January 2014, she tweeted out a picture of wedding rings, presumably belonging to her and Gordon, along with the words, #HappilyMarried• SO#Inlove."


"(Houston) made me promise several times to look after Krissy ... and, Mom, I will never ever, ever break that promise," Gordon told the entertainment show "Extra" afterward, saying Houston "just treated me like she gave birth to me" "She wanted this. This is something she wanted to see."

It was unclear whether Gordon came home Saturday morning to find his wife in the bathtub or had been in another part of the house overnight, Holland said.

Police have obtained a search warrant to look through the house, but that's standard procedure, she said.

Concern for Brown surged again after news broke.

Music director Michael Bearden sent along "healing energy to the daughter of a late great friend." Songwriter Diane Warren tweeted, "I hope Bobbi Kristina gets the help she needs."

"Poor thing," Warren wrote. "Almost 3 yrs to the day her mom passed and the same thing almost happened to her."

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Please pray for our country, it has a serious problem.

for a couple days this song has been on my heart:

TLV4_xaYynY

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1189805/Hendrix-murdered-manager-claims-roadie.html

There is no record of who called 999.

John Bannister, the surgeon who tried to revive Hendrix at hospital, said he was convinced he had drowned in red wine. Yet Hendrix had very little alcohol in his bloodstream.

In 1992 he wrote: ‘I recall vividly the very large amounts of red wine that oozed from his stomach and his lungs, and in my opinion there was no question that Jimi Hendrix had drowned, if not at home then on the way to the hospital.

‘At the time I felt that he had either been on sedative tablets, to sleep or otherwise, and that he had imbibed copious amounts of red wine prior to going to sleep. I would suspect that he regurgitated the red wine and drowned.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1189805/Hendrix-murdered-manager-claims-roadie.html#ixzz3QWhmSesU
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Jimi Hendrix murder theory 'plausible' says ER doctor
The doctor who attempted to revive legendary guitarist Jimi Hendrix on the night he died has said it is "plausible" that he was murdered.


p.s.



http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/rodney-king-autopsy/


Rodney King's death in June was the result of accidental drowning, although alcohol, cocaine, marijuana and PCP found in his system were contributing factors, authorities said Thursday.

King, whose beating by Los Angeles police in 1991 was caught on camera and sparked riots after the acquittal of the four officers involved, was found dead in the swimming pool at his Rialto, California, home on June 17, authorities and his fiancee said. He was 47.

King was "in a state of drug and alcohol-induced delirium" and "either fell or jumped into the swimming pool," said the autopsy report released by the San Bernardino County coroner Thursday.




too many too soon

not natural deaths




http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/01/entertainment/whitney-houston-daughter-hospitalized/index.html


Whitney Houston's daughter in medically induced coma, source says
By Ralph Ellis, Greg Botelho and John Newsome, CNN
Updated 11:35 AM ET, Sun February 1, 2015





Ephesians 6:12

King James Bible
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.




"The Twelfth Degree begins the climb ... into the reaches of philosophy"


The Hammer of Folly
Item Level 1
Binds when picked up
"The very hammer that built the stairs to nowhere."

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Hello dear ones, was led today to read about "A Tale of Two Cities" by Charles Dickens (one of the great teachers!!)

There was a section in Wikipedia about the symbolism of water in dreams (you may recall that Carl Jung had premonitions of unrest heralded by visions of water),
and I thought it would be good to share with you what was written there:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Tale_of_Two_Cities




Water[edit]
Hans Biedermann writes that water "is the fundamental symbol of all the energy of the unconscious—an energy that can be dangerous when it overflows its proper limits (a frequent dream sequence)."[20] This symbolism suits Dickens's novel; in A Tale of Two Cities, the frequent images of water stand for the building anger of the peasant mob, an anger that Dickens sympathises with to a point, but ultimately finds irrational and even animalistic.[citation needed]


Early in the book, Dickens suggests this when he writes, "[T]he sea did what it liked, and what it liked was destruction."[21] The sea here represents the coming mob of revolutionaries. After Gaspard murders the Marquis, he is "hanged there forty feet high—and is left hanging, poisoning the water."[22] The poisoning of the well represents the bitter impact of Gaspard's execution on the collective feeling of the peasants.


After Gaspard's death, the storming of the Bastille is led (from the St. Antoine neighbourhood, at least) by the Defarges; "As a whirlpool of boiling waters has a centre point, so, all this raging circled around Defarge's wine shop, and every human drop in the cauldron had a tendency to be sucked towards the vortex..."[23] The crowd is envisioned as a sea. "With a roar that sounded as if all the breath in France had been shaped into a detested word [the word Bastille], the living sea rose, wave upon wave, depth upon depth, and overflowed the city..."[23]


Darnay's jailer is described as "unwholesomely bloated in both face and person, as to look like a man who had been drowned and filled with water." Later, during the Reign of Terror, the revolution had grown "so much more wicked and distracted ... that the rivers of the South were encumbered with bodies of the violently drowned by night..." Later a crowd is "swelling and overflowing out into the adjacent streets ... the Carmagnole absorbed them every one and whirled them away."


During the fight with Miss Pross, Madame Defarge clings to her with "more than the hold of a drowning woman". Commentators on the novel have noted the irony that Madame Defarge is killed by her own gun, and perhaps Dickens means by the above quote to suggest that such vicious vengefulness as Madame Defarge's will eventually destroy even its perpetrators.


So many read the novel in a Freudian light, as exalting the (British) superego over the (French) id.[citation needed] Yet in Carton's last walk, he watches an eddy that "turned and turned purposeless, until the stream absorbed it, and carried it onto the sea"—his fulfilment, while masochistic and superego-driven, is nonetheless an ecstatic union with the subconscious.



Have faith, is what I think...
have faith in a future where both common sense and the common good prevail.
The good of all people and not just a few.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Tales_serial.jpg




Also please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophelia


The last time Ophelia appears in the play is after Laertes comes to the castle to challenge Claudius over the death of his father, Polonius. Ophelia sings more songs and hands out flowers, citing their symbolic meanings, although interpretations of the meanings differ. The only herb that Shakespeare gives Ophelia herself is rue; "...there's rue for you, and here's some for me; we may call it herb of grace o' Sundays; O, you must wear your rue with a difference". Rue is well known for its symbolic meaning of regret, but the herb is also highly poisonous and has powerful abortive properties.[8]


In Act 4 Scene 7, Queen Gertrude, in her monologue (There is a willow grows aslant the brook), reports that Ophelia had climbed into a willow tree, and then a branch broke and dropped Ophelia into the brook, where she drowned. Gertrude says that Ophelia appeared "incapable of her own distress". Gertrude's announcement of Ophelia's death has been praised as one of the most poetic death announcements in literature.[9]

Later, a sexton at the graveyard insists Ophelia must have killed herself.[10] Laertes is outraged by what the cleric says, and replies that Ophelia will be an angel in heaven when the cleric "lie[s] howling" in hell.

At Ophelia's funeral, Queen Gertrude sprinkles flowers on Ophelia's grave ("Sweets to the sweet"), and says she wished Ophelia could have been Hamlet's wife (contradicting Laertes' warnings to Ophelia in the first act). Laertes then jumps into Ophelia's grave excavation, asking for the burial to wait until he has held her in his arms one last time and proclaims how much he loved her. Hamlet, nearby, then challenges Laertes and claims that he loved Ophelia more than "forty thousand" brothers could. After her funeral scene, Ophelia is no longer mentioned.


http://jungiancenter.org/essay/jung%E2%80%99s-prophetic-visions-and-alchemy-our-time


When Jung was asked later in the year what he thought were the prospects for Europe’s future, he replied that he “had no thoughts on the matter,” but added that he had seen rivers of blood.[19] In the Spring of 1914 he had three dreams in which Europe was covered with ice and all the vegetation was killed by frost. World War I broke out 2 months after the last of the three dreams.[20]



p.s. the death of Gaspard reminded me a lot of how Robin Williams was found,
and certainly his passing "poisoned the well", catalyzing the public mind toward distress.

imo

p.s.

http://igabo.deviantart.com/art/little-sad-clown-167937201

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Was glancing at the Bobbi Kristina case this a.m. and a new detail was posted to CNN,

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/12/us/bobbi-kristina-hospitalized/index.html

the link said:


1. Car crash

On January 27, Brown was driving and lost control of her silver Jeep Liberty, crashing into a gray Ford Taurus.



The driver of the Ford and a passenger in her Jeep were injured and transported to a hospital, according to a report from Roswell, Georgia, police.



Who drives a grey ford taurus?

http://hooniverse.com/2013/08/12/comparison-ford-taurus-sho-vs-ford-taurus-police-interceptor-sedan/




2+ 2 = ?

http://cdn.getauto.com/photos/4/158694/2c/1FAHP2MK1EG153657-2c.jpg



I think family might be updating this page but I am not sure:

http://www.biography.com/people/whitney-houston-9344818



Whitney Houston died at the age of 48 on February 11, 2012, in Los Angeles at a Beverly Hilton hotel where a Grammy party was being held by Clive Davis. Houston had been seen out in the days before her death, including at one of the pre-Grammy parties. According to a report released by the Los Angeles County coroner's office on March 22, 2012, the official cause of her death was accidental drowning. The effects of heart disease and cocaine found in her system were contributing factors as well. With her passing, the music world lost one of its most legendary stars. Davis once said that Houston "is in the great tradition of great, great singers, whether it's Lena Horne or Ella Fitzgerald or Sarah Vaughn or Gladys Knight."



On January 31, 2015, nearly three years to the date of her mother's death, Bobbi Kristina was discovered face down in a bathtub in her Roswell, Georgia home by associate Max Lomas. After being admitted to North Fulton Hospital, she was eventually taken to Emory University Hospital, having been placed into a medically-induced coma.

With media speculation over her prognosis, Bobby Brown and grandmother Cissy have visited her bedside amid calls for public support and prayer, with a public candlelight vigil held on February 10 in suburban Atlanta. Investigations are also underway into the circumstances of how the young woman was found and her home situation with Gordon. It was also revealed by the Associated Press via police reports that days before she was hospitalized, Bobbi Kristina had lost control of a jeep she was driving and crashed into another car, with two people receiving medical attention.


p.s. here's a weirdy for yas 12 man fans


http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/16/us/nyc-homicide-free-streak/index.html


New York (CNN)New York City's longest recorded homicide-free streak ended late Friday night, when a 28-year-old man was shot multiple times just before midnight.

Eric Roman was transported to a nearby hospital in critical condition with gunshot wounds to his head, hand and leg and died Saturday, according to the New York Police Department.

New York City had gone 12 days without a homicide, its longest stretch on modern record, police said Monday.

The last reported homicide was February 1, Super Bowl Sunday, in Upper Manhattan, police said.



Ezekiel 11:2

Then said he unto me, Son of man, these are the men that devise mischief, and give wicked counsel in this city:



http://observer.com/2015/01/nypd-inspector-general-finds-troubling-deficiencies-in-punishments-for-chokeholds/


The NYPD inspector general was created in 2013 in the face of bitter opposition from then-Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. Progressive City Council members, arguing that the NYPD needed additional oversight amid allegations that it misused the tactic of stop-and-frisk, overcame a mayoral veto to establish the agency, which has subpoena power.

Spokespersons for the mayor’s office and the NYPD did not immediately return requests for comment.



Read more at http://observer.com/2015/01/nypd-inspector-general-finds-troubling-deficiencies-in-punishments-for-chokeholds/#ixzz3RvspX5qb
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Ezekiel 12


The Exile Symbolized

1The word of the Lord came to me: 2“Son of man, you are living among a rebellious people. They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people.

3“Therefore, son of man, pack your belongings for exile and in the daytime, as they watch, set out and go from where you are to another place. Perhaps they will understand, though they are a rebellious people. 4During the daytime, while they watch, bring out your belongings packed for exile. Then in the evening, while they are watching, go out like those who go into exile. 5While they watch, dig through the wall and take your belongings out through it. 6Put them on your shoulder as they are watching and carry them out at dusk. Cover your face so that you cannot see the land, for I have made you a sign to the Israelites.”

7So I did as I was commanded. During the day I brought out my things packed for exile. Then in the evening I dug through the wall with my hands. I took my belongings out at dusk, carrying them on my shoulders while they watched.

8In the morning the word of the Lord came to me: 9“Son of man, did not the Israelites, that rebellious people, ask you, ‘What are you doing?’

10“Say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: This prophecy concerns the prince in Jerusalem and all the Israelites who are there.’ 11Say to them, ‘I am a sign to you.’

“As I have done, so it will be done to them. They will go into exile as captives.









Analysis[edit]
Several reviewers have pointed out that the lyrics in "All Along the Watchtower" echo lines in the Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9:

Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield./For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Go set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth./And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed./...And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.[8][9]




album containing "all along the watchtower" was
Released November 22, 1968

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As far as I know "ezekial moss" was never made. So how was this going to be some awe-inspring whistle blower piece? Unless you have a script or atleast a synopsis, you are just guessing.

DNA...It's in the first post of this thread and here...

Synopsis:

Philip Seymour Hoffman, who died suddenly today at the age of 46, was due to direct Prohibition-era drama Ezekiel Moss later this year. I understand he had been actively involved with the project for well over a year, developing it with Keith Bunin, author of the 2011 Black List script. On Friday, it was announced that Amy Adams and Jake Gyllenhaal had boarded the hot project which follows a widow whose life is forever changed by a mysterious drifter with the divine ability to channel and physically inhabit the spirits of the dead. A Likely Story’s Anthony Bregman and Mandalay Vision’s Cathy Schulman are producers with PalmStar Media Capital’s Kevin Frakes and Merced Media Partners’ Raj Brinder Singh.

http://deadline.com/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-project-ezekiel-moss-will-not-be-sold-in-berlin-675777/

And some personal photos from Red Dragon set:

http://i59.tinypic.com/fcifya.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/1zy96ac.jpg

some of the lights used to create a fire effect:

http://i59.tinypic.com/2di1ws5.jpg

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Who wanted to silence Philip Seymour Hoffman and intimidate everyone on public TV?
Who did he fight?

Might be prudent to investigate the producers and their leanings...current and past projects...follow the money.


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0289694/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4504741/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0776072/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0106835/

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Thanks for looking into this.

http://www.thewrap.com/philip-seymour-hoffman-dead-hunger-games-wanted-man-more-movies/

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/jake-gyllenhaal-amy-adams-ezekiel-moss-philip-seymour-hoffman-1201080655/


I think it's worth knowing about.