Message from space gave co-ordinates off Irish Coast for future mankind?

[Sérénité]

Wondering if anyone can help me with some information...? :help:

I was recently watching a documentary on the new H2 channel, I think it was Alien Files.
***In part of the documentary it was explaining about the messages sent into space and how only once, quite a few years ago now, there was just one short reply received back***
[UPDATE, sorry yes it was infact the Rendalsham Forest episode, where the man recieved the binary code message, thanks :) ]

When the reply was decoded it basically read somewhere along the lines of: 'for the continuation of future mankind' (something like that!) and gave co-ordinates which pinpointed the area of sea off the south-west coast of Ireland in the area of the Porcupine Seabight/Galway coral mound.

I wasn't quick enough to jot down the exact co-ordinates or the exact message as it was read.

I've searched for more info on this on both Avalon and the internet and cannot find anything. Maybe its been debunked by now, maybe it was sent by the Irish Tourist Board trying to drum up more visitors lol

Has anyone any further info on this? its something I'd like to read into further. Im sure its out there and no doubt, on here somewhere... Ive just not found it :)

[Paul J Salmon]

Here you go: http://nicotye.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/hy-brasil-binary-and-lot-of-rabid.html

[Realeyes]

Interesting thread question.

I wonder if this has anything to do with 'Hy Brasil' a mystery island that was to the west of Ireland? Here is a link from David Icke's site with a snippet of info. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154906

Interesting that the coordinates were given in Binary code to the witnesses at Rendlesham forest UFO incident in the 80's.


The coordinates from this code (52.0942532N 13.131269W) point to a mythical island called Hy-Brasil.

Here is a link breaking down the binary codes and more on Hy Brasil with a map etc
http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/The_Decoded_Binary_Code.php

The Deciphered Message from the code:

http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/images/cbfe0c8622d72a6d40827a961d015ed0_32fq.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_basraNod1Ms/TUkcnSfeLnI/AAAAAAAAB8c/kaiP__-5iIE/s400/Hy-Brasil.jpg

Map below from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasil_%28mythical_island%29
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Ortelius_1572_Ireland_Map.jpg/220px-Ortelius_1572_Ireland_Map.jpg

Update: Thanks Paul Salmon, you were on the same thoughts.... it took me a while to add all the links in to my post, and did not see yours til after posting. ;)

[Sean Cullen]

Hi Sérénité


Sorry, I do not know about the particular documentary you mentioned. However, a magnetic anomoly of long concern to mariners is well known off the Irish coast. I wonder is this related to your query here;


When the reply was decoded it basically read somewhere along the lines of: 'for the continuation of future mankind' (something like that!) and gave co-ordinates which pinpointed the area of sea off the south-west coast of Ireland in the area of the Porcupine Seabight/Galway coral mound.
...

Has anyone any further info on this? its something I'd like to read into further. Im sure its out there and no doubt, on here somewhere... Ive just not found it :)

More information, including coordinates can be found in this book: "An Interpretation of some magnetic data off the west coast or Ireland", available here;

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/gj.3350090203/abstract

In addition, maps of gravity and magnetic anololies may be found here;

http://www.gsi.ie/Publications+and+Data/Maps/

In addition, a magnetic anomoly is marked on older marine charts for the south west coast of Ireland. It may well be the case that the coordinates that you are seeking coincide with the coordinates of an already known magnetic anomly(of which there are a few off the west coast of Ireland). ;)

In Ireland here we have a long association with "Tir Na Nog" or the "Land Of Eternal Youth" which, some say, may be located somewhere in the vicinity.

I mention this in anticipation that the coordinates you seek may be found by reviewing anomolous data already well established for the protection of life at sea.

Good luck in your searching!

Seán

[Sérénité]

Thankyou very much Paul J Salmon and Realeyes, yes this is exactly it!
Knew I could rely on you fellow Avalonians to help me!

Off to read more, very interesting stuff, thankyou again x

[Sérénité]

Thankyou Sean I will check out those links now also!
Interesting about the magnetic anomoly, if the area of that ties in with the area of the co-ordinates given in binary and also the location of Hy Brasil, that would be interesting! Maybe our own little celtic atlantis :)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Does this tie in to the sinking of Beleriand legend in the Tolkien cycles?
Numenor?

Very cool find, you guys.

[Marklennon]

The film Byzantium seems to be based on the knowledge of this island, the necromancer who holds power there grants visitors immortality in exchange for their soul.

"Captain John Nisbet of Lisneskay, Co. Fermanagh, claimed to have landed on the island and found cattle, sheep, horses, black rabbits, and a strong castle. Nisbet knocked on the door in vain - but there was no answer. When night came he made his way to the beach with his eight companions and lit a fire. Then a "hideous noise" ensured and they fled to the boat. When they returned the next day, the found an old Scottish gentlemen and servants on the shore, dressed in outdated clothes and talking "old fashioned speech". The old man claimed to have been imprisoned there by a necromancer and confirmed that the island was indeed O Brazile"

In the film, the returning visitors are accepted into a brotherhood of immortals that rule the planet. If the story is indeed based upon fact it would explain the naming of Brazil.

[Atlas]

From the Seafaring Lore book:

Hy Brasil (also known as Brasil, Brazil, Hi Brasil, Hy-Breasail, Hy Brazil, and Isle of Brazil) is another far-off island, this one circular, placed by knowing geographers in various parts of the Atlantic—sometimes attached to the Azores group in the North Atlantic, west of Portugal, where it was known as the Isle de Brazi (shown as such in the Venetian map of Andrea Bianco in 1436), at other times located hundreds of miles due west of Ireland.

The word Brasil or Brazil is from the Portuguese braza, brassa, meaning heat, coals (the source of brazier, a pan for charcoal); this in turn refers to the red dye obtained from brazilwood (earlier Medieval Latin, brasilium), the wood brought from the East for making red dye.

Hy Brasil was the brainchild of Pliny the Elder (A.D. 23–79), Roman naturalist, encyclopedist, and writer. It was said to be a paradise, and explorers searched assiduously for it; so convinced were early geographers of its existence that the island was included in maps and charts for nearly two thousand years.

J. Purdy’s chart of 1830 confidently advises the mariner that “Brazil Rock” can be found at 51°10' N and 15°50' W, and it appears on A. G. Findlay’s maritime chart of currents of 1853; in 1865, however, Findlay had rejected the notion of Brazil Island as well as some other legendary islands.

When the Portuguese navigator Pedro Alvares Cabral (about 1467–1520) discovered a large “island” in the southwest Atlantic on April 22 in the year 1500, he named it Tierra da Vera Cruz but this was later changed to Brasil, no doubt because cartographers thought that he had discovered the elusive island of that name (and, in any event, “Brazil” had long become familiar as a geographical place-name).

In 1674 a Scottish sea captain named Nisbet claimed that he had landed on Hy Brasil; it was, he said, inhabited by gigantic black rabbits and a magician in a castle; unfortunately for both science and maritime history, he was unable to produce any evidence of what he had seen.

See: projectavalon.net/Rendlesham-Forest...Binary-Numbers (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10322-Rendlesham-Forest-Ancient-Aliens-Episode-30.12.10-Binary-Numbers)

[Atlas]

In Ireland here we have a long association with "Tir Na Nog" or the "Land Of Eternal Youth" which, some say, may be located somewhere in the vicinity.

When the Celtic Faeries withdrew from from our world into their parallel one within the faerie hills, it was a place that to human visitors seemed as spacious and as full of game and forests and plains as the one above ground, and even more full of wonders and treasures. Here the Tuatha had their faerie kingdoms with occasional wars and dramas very much like those of the Sons of Mil above ground; but they also had another land off in the Atlantic to the west, the Land Under the Sunset. This was the island or islands of Hy Brasil, possibly identical with Tir na n’Og, the Land of Eternal Youth, which has many other names too such as the Land of Promise, Land of the Living, Land of Delights, the Green Isle and the Happy Plain.

To the British Celts Hy Brasil was possibly identical with the Isle of Avalon and classical scholars have also related it to the fabled Garden of the Hesperides in Greek myth, which were also islands situated somewhere towards the sunset where magic apples grew and there was no sorrow or death. Marie de France in her Lays tells the tale of Lanval, a Breton knight in the days of King Arthur, who fell in love with a faerie maid and mounted up on her horse behind her to ride off to the Otherworld:

On the horse behind her
With full rush Lanval jumped.
With her he rides away to Avalon
According to what the Briton says
Into an isle which is very beautiful.

There is a tradition in the west of Ireland that Hy Brasil becomes visible on the horizon in the direction of the sunset every seven years, and many independent witnesses have testified to this through the ages right up until a century or so ago. When Evans-Wentz was collecting stories in Ireland he was told that the summer of 1908 had been a particularly good one for sightings, with many educated witnesses of a normally sober and rational tendency. Otherwise the island only seems to show itself when its inhabitants choose, or when trouble threatens Ireland.

Nevertheless, so certain were people of its existence that for several hundred years it was shown on many Atlantic charts as a real place. One of the earliest examples was in 1325 when Genoese cartographer Dalorto positioned it west of Ireland. The 1597 map below by Giovanni Magini, shows the twin island further south and marked as ‘Brafil’. It is commonly described as being a circular island more or less bisected by rivers.

It is quite possible that the mythical Hy Brasil gave its name to the South American country of Brazil due to its legend having spread among Celtic sailors from Ireland and Britain down to Celtic Galicia in north-west Spain, and from there down into Portugal which took possession of the South American country. Although there is another theory: from the fifteenth century one of the Azores was often called the Brazil Island on Portuguese charts, probably taking its name from a type of wood found there that was used to make red dye, and it is very possible that this name was transferred to the South American colony later because even more of the same type of wood was to be found in that vast country, and it became a valuable commodity in Portuguese trade. Whatever the truth, Hy Brasil and the South American country of Brazil apparently both existed on British Admiralty charts until 1865 when the island was finally erased due to lack of confirmatory evidence.

In 1684 the Irish historian Roderick O’Flaherty wrote of Hy Brasil: ‘From the Isles of Arran and the west continent [i.e. Irish mainland] often appears visible that enchanted island called O’Brasail and, in Irish, Beg Ara. Whether it be a real and firm land kept hidden by the special ordnance of God, or the terrestrial paradise, or else some illusion of airy clouds appearing on the surface of the sea, or the craft of evil spirits, is more than our judgments can pound out.’

O’Flaherty goes on to tell of a witness then still living who claimed to have visited Hy Brasil for two days some years earlier. It apparently came about like this: in April 1668 he had a row with his wife and left home, wandering from village to village in a black mood. Then in ‘Iross-Ainhagh, in the south side of the Barony of Ballynahinshy [Ballynahinch] about nine leagues from Galway by sea’ he met three strangers who forcibly bundled him into a boat and ferried him out to a strange island. Being able to speak both English and Irish, they told him it was Hy Brasil and he was able to confirm this by picking out the Aran Islands, Golam Head and other familiar landmarks far away on the Irish coast. Then after a couple of days he woke feeling very ill on the coast near Galway with no idea how he had got back there, and had to recuperate for a few days at a friend’s house.

Another of O’Flaherty’s recorded tales about Hy Brasil was this: ‘Some few generations ago, the crew of a fishing boat passing an island which they did not know, landed thereon to refresh themselves. They had no sooner landed than a man appeared and told them they had no business there as the island was enchanted. They therefore returned to the boat, but as they were going away the islander gave one of them a book with directions not to look into it for seven years. He complied with the request and when he opened and read the book he was able to practice surgery and physic with great success. This man's name was Lee, and the book remained as an heirloom with his descendants.’

A third circumstantial account he gives again offers no very solid evidence for the existence of the fabled island but does tell us much about the strength of belief in it at the time. ‘In the western ocean, five or six leagues from the continent there is a sandbank about thirty fathoms deep in the sea. It is called in Irish, Imaire Bay, and in English, the Cod-fishing Bank. From this bank about twenty years ago, a boat was blown southwards by night; next day about noon the occupants spyed land so near them that they could see sheep within it, and yet durst not, for fear of illusions, touch shore, imagining it was O’Brasail, and they were two days coming back towards home.’

See: projectavalon.net/Underwater-city-near-Ireland (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44593-Underwater-city-near-Ireland)

[Atlas]

From the book Ireland's Mysterious Lands and Sunken Cities: Legends and Folklore (http://books.google.com.au/books?id=skktA89EY64C) by Jon Douglas Singer:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/hybrasil.jpg