MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION - Jacques Vallee

[turiya]

MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION by Jacques Vallee


Magonia
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PROLOGUE
A Dream World Far Off


Give me the superstitions of a nation, and I care not who makes their laws,
or who writes their songs!—Mark Twain

The Three Aspects of the UFO Problem

Why is it, I wondered, that the “occupants” of UFOs behave so much like the denizens of fairy tales and the elves of ancient folklore? Why is the picture we can form of their world so much closer to the medieval concept of Magonia, the magical land above the clouds, than to a description of the extraterrestrial planetary environment?



And why are UFOs becoming a new religious form?
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turiya :cool:

[kirolak]

Wow, like being in the astral . . .

[Roisin]

Vallee believes that our visitor's are actually just one of many manifestations of a control system. This control system can manifest as aliens, ghosts, crypto's, fairies, elves and all kinds of paranormal phenomena. UFOs and the abduction phenomenon are also part of this control system too.

This control system is cross-dimensional and has the ability to manifest in physical form too for various durations of time but essentially its main local is from other realms outside of our own.

[Azt]

Vallee believes that our visitor's are actually just one of many manifestations of a control system. This control system can manifest as aliens, ghosts, crypto's, fairies, elves and all kinds of paranormal phenomena. UFOs and the abduction phenomenon are also part of this control system too.

I think this is interesting thinking, have you noticed how most of the people tend to believe that the tall nordic type aliens are the good ones ... appearing like a pure "Aries race" did the trick to Germany and they followed their agenda ... and now the U.S is probably doing the same.

[Operator]

Vallee believes that our visitor's are actually just one of many manifestations of a control system. This control system can manifest as aliens, ghosts, crypto's, fairies, elves and all kinds of paranormal phenomena. UFOs and the abduction phenomenon are also part of this control system too.

I think this is interesting thinking, have you noticed how most of the people tend to believe that the tall nordic type aliens are the good ones ... appearing like a pure "Aries race" did the trick to Germany and they followed their agenda ... and now the U.S is probably doing the same.

Good point ... I'm also considering these issues more and more.
I can't repeat it often enough: Bill Cooper changed his mind, spoke about Ufoology in 1993 after being an advocate of the alien phenomenon.
After he changed his mind he was totally focused on the New World Order. He wasn't just somebody and they brutally killed him in a not
so covert way. The fact that we hear top-brass military speak about UFO's and that they witnessed 'something' doesn't make it true for me
anymore. We all saw 9/11 with our owns eyes and most of us probably believed it then.

What if they took the real phenomenon of ancient aliens as an idea and created an artificial modern version to fool us?
Perhaps a wild idea but worth considering. It will open your mind to see if there are matching facts. ;)

[turiya]

Vallee believes that our visitor's are actually just one of many manifestations of a control system. This control system can manifest as aliens, ghosts, crypto's, fairies, elves and all kinds of paranormal phenomena. UFOs and the abduction phenomenon are also part of this control system too.

This control system is cross-dimensional and has the ability to manifest in physical form too for various durations of time but essentially its main local is from other realms outside of our own.
Jacques Vallee:
The experience of a close encounter with a UFO [Contactee] is a shattering physical and mental ordeal. The trauma has effects that go far [8] beyond what witnesses recall consciously. New types of behavior are conditioned, and new types of beliefs are promoted. The social, political, and religious consequences of the experience are enormous if they considered, not in the days or weeks following the sighting, but over the time-span of a generation. Could it be that such effects are actually intended, through some process of social conditioning? Could it be that both the believers and the skeptics are being manipulated?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8

turiya :cool:

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Could it possibly be that the total, complete, full topic is literally one massive psy-op? I mentioned to Mel Fabregas of the final card i hold, the one i'd be forced to play at some point, is literally this, EVERYTHING we think we know, assume, guess, opinionate is nothing more than a well orchestrated global psyop, a psychological operation of such a grand scale no one could comprehend it. Operation Mountain Haze.

[Delight]

EVERYTHING we think we know, assume, guess, opinionate is nothing more than a well orchestrated global psyop, a psychological operation of such a grand scale no one could comprehend it.

I wonder if you mean Global Orchestrated Design?
How does this change what you choose each day? (I mean the question sincerely)

It does seem oddly symmetrical.
It is said to be a hologram.
I always liked this zen story because my feelings stir me and sometimes it does not seem to matter how the opportunity came to be created.


The Zen master’s brother had died. He sat crying at the funeral.
A student tugged at his sleeve and asked, “Master, is the duality of life and death not illusion?”
The Zen master replied, “Yes, that is correct thinking.”
The student then asked, “Do the Sutras not say that emotions are stained with desire, and that suffering ceases when desire ceases?”
“Yes,” the master replied through his tears. “You have been listening closely to my teaching.”
The student finally asked, “Then why are you crying?”
The Zen master quietly replied, “My brother died. I’m sad, so I’m crying.”

Do you follow Above Top Secret?
There is a huge thread there on the topic.

[Hervé]

Whatever is the current reality is what is projected into the accidental observer's mind...

... dragons at one period... fleets of sailing vessels at another... and the question remains unanswered:



[...]

i have wondered if they went after Wilhelm Reich because he'd invented a weapon that could vaporize UFOs

Amzer Zo , could you elaborate some on this from your post?

Where things get complicated is when the parisites and the ETs mimic/holograph each other to misdirect investigations...

W. Reich was after the b*st*rds and was using orgone energy to do it, that's life energy. How could one use "life energy" to anhilate a physical, 3D, metallic construct of some sort? Not possible. However, when aimed at a parasitic energy, it never failed. Which brings me to your request...

Most of these so called UFOs are thought forms or holograpghic constructs. One of the first reseachers to be faced with the conclusion that UFO phenomena had more to do with psychic phenomena than anything else was Jacques Vallee after recognizing that very little physical realities were ever uncovered compared to the amount of UFO observations.

Other researchers came to that same conclusion that the boundaries between psychic phenomena and UFO accounts were very, very fuzzy.

As such, then, we are dealing with the mind and its control and perceptions. The parasites (and many ghosts as well) are adept at mimicking anything that would manipulate their targets as a thought projection into their mind... so projecting a "grey" into someone's mind would be kids play...

Furthermore, if parasites can do that, so do human beings (stage hypnotists, magicians)... never mind ETs.

Welcome to the ball of yarn that got run into by a few playful alley cats!

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Maybe we are approaching times when that final card can be played and we can all sigh relief and find something less intrusive to occupy our minds each day

[CD7]

Could it possibly be that the total, complete, full topic is literally one massive psy-op? I mentioned to Mel Fabregas of the final card i hold, the one i'd be forced to play at some point, is literally this, EVERYTHING we think we know, assume, guess, opinionate is nothing more than a well orchestrated global psyop, a psychological operation of such a grand scale no one could comprehend it. Operation Mountain Haze.


Why Yes indeed it could be! And has most definitely seemed to me that MOST everything has been manipulated in such a way *in my neck of the woods anyway* Its so blatant it hurts!!!


It is why its so important and said to infinity...go within---learn from the self. Educate yourself through the self! When someone attempts to do this you realize that PRACTICALLY everything has been imparted to you...all knowledge is based on what another being says, teaches, advertises, proselytizes....

Rarely does anyone take truth/knowledge from themselves, so it has become a literally PIECE OF CAKE to lull a mass of people in any direction

[Operator]

Could it possibly be that the total, complete, full topic is literally one massive psy-op? I mentioned to Mel Fabregas of the final card i hold, the one i'd be forced to play at some point, is literally this, EVERYTHING we think we know, assume, guess, opinionate is nothing more than a well orchestrated global psyop, a psychological operation of such a grand scale no one could comprehend it.


Maybe we are approaching times when that final card can be played and we can all sigh relief and find something less intrusive to occupy our minds each day

Is this somehow related to Courtney Brown's implication posting #4 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February-2014&p=794900&viewfull=1#post794900)?
I mean topic AND timing ?

I tried to find something on operation Mountain Haze ... nothing significant on the web. Do you have a link where to find
out more ?

[turiya]

EVERYTHING we think we know, assume, guess, opinionate is nothing more than a well orchestrated global psyop, a psychological operation of such a grand scale no one could comprehend it.

I wonder if you mean Global Orchestrated Design?
How does this change what you choose each day? (I mean the question sincerely)

It does seem oddly symmetrical.
It is said to be a hologram.
I always liked this zen story because my feelings stir me and sometimes it does not seem to matter how the opportunity came to be created.


The Zen master’s brother had died. He sat crying at the funeral.
A student tugged at his sleeve and asked, “Master, is the duality of life and death not illusion?”
The Zen master replied, “Yes, that is correct thinking.”
The student then asked, “Do the Sutras not say that emotions are stained with desire, and that suffering ceases when desire ceases?”
“Yes,” the master replied through his tears. “You have been listening closely to my teaching.”
The student finally asked, “Then why are you crying?”
The Zen master quietly replied, “My brother died. I’m sad, so I’m crying.”

Do you follow Above Top Secret?
There is a huge thread there on the topic.

I heard a slightly different version, where the zen master says,

"yes, what you say is true.
But the body is in sadness. It is crying, weeping.
This, I am also an observing."

turiya

[turiya]

There are three aspects to the UFO problem.
The first aspect is physical. The UFO behaves like a region of space, of small dimensions (about 10 meters), within which a very large amount of energy is stored. This energy is manifested by pulsed light phenomena of intense colors, by other forms of electromagnetic radiation, and by microwaves that create distortions of the witnesses’ sense of reality.

The second aspect is psychological. It is debatable whether anybody has seen the actual technology that supports the phenomenon. What is seen, and reported, is an image; the perception of the UFO by a human witness. Reports of UFOs show all kinds of psycho-physiological effects on the witnesses: perception distortions, unconscious barriers and mental blocks. Witnesses also show evidence of suggestion and post-hypnotic effects. Exposure to the phenomenon cause visions, hallucination, physiological effects, and long-term personality changes.

The third aspect is social. Belief in the reality of UFOs is spreading rapidly at all levels of society throughout the world. Books and periodicals on the subject appear at an ever-increasing rate. Documentaries and major films are being made now by young people of the UFO generation (young men and women who were born just after World War II and who grew up with flying-saucer stories) who have moved into influential positions in the media. Expectations about life in the universe have been revolutionized by such belief changes in the public. Political and economic attitudes are changing, too. Many of the themes of yesterday’s counter-culture can be traced back to the “messages from space” coming from UFO contactees of the forties & fifties.

JACQUES VALLEE - Implications of UFO Phenomena


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ETMzkhBQ6w

EXCERPT
Questioner: One of the suggestions, Jacques, that you made in your book “The Invisible College”, as I recall, is that UFOs may be associated with some of the mystical or occult ideas of ‘hidden Masters’ or groups of very wise & beneficent entities that were trying to teach humanity.

Jacques Vallee: I didn’t take it that far. I suggested that, first, any new phenomenon, even if you go back to the 15th century, when you look at electricity, for example, electrostatics as it was observed then & not understood, has the potential of being regarded as ‘magical’. I think Author Clarke said that ‘any technology that we don’t understand has to be magic, or perceived as magical.’ I am paraphrasing badly what he had said. This immediately calls to mind, clearly, here is a phenomenon that is very complex, and is showing abilities that we cannot duplicate with our current technologies. So it immediately calls to mind magic & occultism. If it also contains something electrostatics or electromagnetism doesn’t contain the potential of being intelligent. If it is intelligent, then we may not be able to study it will science alone. Science is a way of gaining knowledge based on phenomenon that is not manipulated by an intelligence. Now if there is an intelligence involved, then it becomes much more complex.

Questioner: It requires a humanistic approach…

Jacques Vallee: Yes, it requires a much more diverse approach, from many different disciplines. And, it may be that the people responsible for that manifestation understand the impact that the phenomenon will have on us—on our own imagination.

And that is one of the speculations that I proposed, was that, perhaps the observations of UFOs were similar to a teaching system. But there is another of thinking about that: perhaps, we’re clearly at a time of great potential crisis on Earth. We have the means of destroying the planet which we’ve never had before. It may be that there is a collective unconscious, if you…

Questioner: …that the UFOs are ourselves, perhaps.

Jacques Vallee: …that we are creating the visions that we need to survive in order to transcend this crisis we have. And there are no UFOs in the manufactured sense…


turiya :cool:

[shadowstalker]

Three words..

Hopi
Dogan
Zulu


Look at there histories...


U.F.O.'s/Aliens are real.


T.P.T.B. try to destroy there history and them just for that reason and there spiritual knowledge banks.
There histories are true and UN-tethered.

If T.P.T.B. didn't destroy as much as they have, this world would be a much different and better place.

U.F.O's are nothing new and they are trying to destroy that fact as well,
while at the same time use there psi-ops and possibly Bluebeam along side the bad aliens to try to create a new agenda.
To which is an old agenda..

Do you see a pattern hear????

[chocolate]

Vallee believes that our visitor's are actually just one of many manifestations of a control system. This control system can manifest as aliens, ghosts, crypto's, fairies, elves and all kinds of paranormal phenomena. UFOs and the abduction phenomenon are also part of this control system too.

I think this is interesting thinking, have you noticed how most of the people tend to believe that the tall nordic type aliens are the good ones ... appearing like a pure "Aries race" did the trick to Germany and they followed their agenda ... and now the U.S is probably doing the same.


I am sure it is an interesting thinking.
But why put 'most people' inside.
Or are we all supposedly easily fooled, because someone else is, or because we are simply still alive and here.

[turiya]

Three words..
Hopi
Dogan
Zulu

Look at there histories...
U.F.O.'s/Aliens are real.

T.P.T.B. try to destroy there history and them just for that reason and there spiritual knowledge banks.
There histories are true and UN-tethered.

If T.P.T.B. didn't destroy as much as they have, this world would be a much different and better place.

U.F.O's are nothing new and they are trying to destroy that fact as well,
while at the same time use there psi-ops and possibly Bluebeam along side the bad aliens to try to create a new agenda.
To which is an old agenda..

Do you see a pattern hear????

I would put it in another way...
It is the psychotic angelic/demonic ETs that have/are using TPTB to implement their agenda(s). Some have likened it to a "mind-virus". As, somewhere along the line, an entire ET race has convinced themselves that they are "God's chosen individuals" that are meant to live on "God's chosen planet" - unfortunately, that planet is the Earth.

Not to leave the planet Earth mother (as a living consciousness) out of this equation. But it is understood that she has asked all ET races to clear the scene, here, while she, & her guardians, tend to these so-called (unwelcomed) "visitors", as well as dealing with the numbers of Earth-bound humans that are bent on continuing to extend their on-going invitation to them - under the guise of benevolence - a scheme to help save the Earth & the race of human beings that reside upon her surface.

If you look at most recent channeled messages, you will see the pattern as it is promoted - that planet Earth is as weak as a kitten & needs the assistance of the ETs (supposedly from a wide range of various 'star systems') that are providing such channeled material. So, "dear ones", please continue to open portals & star gates, so that we can continue to come onto your planet to help you, as well. After all, we are your brothers & sisters of your star family.

Its been a long drawn-out plan that's been in place, here. It takes stepping away from what is happening presently (over the recent past) to see the larger picture. Simply looking at the 100 year history of the Federal Reserve Banking system that has been implemented to maneuver populations of human beings into the position for their subjugation & control. It is only a small part of the overall picture. ET Contactee Abductions are again only a small part of the overall picture - for the implementation of a 'Grand Scheme' that is presently unfolding.

The image of the slowest train wreck in human history comes to mind.

Jacques Vallee:

I propose: that the UFO we see is, among other things, a device which creates a distortion of the witness’s reality; that it does so for a purpose, which is to project images or fabricated scenes designed to change our belief systems; and that the technology we observe is only the incidental support for a worldwide enterprise of “subliminal seduction.”


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/FEDERAL_RESERVE_SPIDER.png

[Roisin]

Whatever is the current reality is what is projected into the accidental observer's mind...

... dragons at one period... fleets of sailing vessels at another... and the question remains unanswered:



[...]

i have wondered if they went after Wilhelm Reich because he'd invented a weapon that could vaporize UFOs

Amzer Zo , could you elaborate some on this from your post?

Where things get complicated is when the parisites and the ETs mimic/holograph each other to misdirect investigations...

W. Reich was after the b*st*rds and was using orgone energy to do it, that's life energy. How could one use "life energy" to anhilate a physical, 3D, metallic construct of some sort? Not possible. However, when aimed at a parasitic energy, it never failed. Which brings me to your request...

Most of these so called UFOs are thought forms or holograpghic constructs. One of the first reseachers to be faced with the conclusion that UFO phenomena had more to do with psychic phenomena than anything else was Jacques Vallee after recognizing that very little physical realities were ever uncovered compared to the amount of UFO observations.

Other researchers came to that same conclusion that the boundaries between psychic phenomena and UFO accounts were very, very fuzzy.

As such, then, we are dealing with the mind and its control and perceptions. The parasites (and many ghosts as well) are adept at mimicking anything that would manipulate their targets as a thought projection into their mind... so projecting a "grey" into someone's mind would be kids play...

Furthermore, if parasites can do that, so do human beings (stage hypnotists, magicians)... never mind ETs.

Welcome to the ball of yarn that got run into by a few playful alley cats!

"
As such, then, we are dealing with the mind and its control and perceptions. The parasites (and many ghosts as well) are adept at mimicking anything that would manipulate their targets as a thought projection into their mind... so projecting a "grey" into someone's mind would be kids play... "


Mind blowing and soooooo true Amzer! This topic needs to be discussed more often in forums like this one because the fact remains that it's a reality that very few experiencers/contactee's etc are willing to honestly confront and analyze.

[Operator]

Three words..

Hopi
Dogan
Zulu


Look at there histories...


U.F.O.'s/Aliens are real.
....


Well, you more or less confirmed it yourself ... but you mix history with our current day life.
That doesn't prove the phenomenon today.

Sometimes it helps to take on the role of devil's advocate and investigate the other side.

To be honest when I talk with local people here in the southern Caribbean there is literally no one who
has ever seen a UFO despite having clear skies most of the time. And belief me I am opening up a lot
of discussion on this issue to raise awareness.

Why would there be so much more activity above western/modern countries compared to here? It should
not be because 'they' avoid more laid back areas as proven by indigenous peoples' accounts ... But those
often are historical accounts.

I am not trying to prove anything either way, just to indicate that my suspicion is rising with the same
speed my awareness is rising ... ;)

[Hervé]

[...]

Why would there be so much more activity above western/modern countries compared to here? It should
not be because 'they' avoid more laid back areas as proven by indigenous peoples' accounts ... But those
often are historical accounts.

I am not trying to prove anything either way, just to indicate that my suspicion is rising with the same
speed my awareness is rising ... ;)

There may be a question of stability/long term viability of underground bases... like it would be quite dumb, IMO, to set up camp right in the middle of a tectonically active subduction zone...

[learninglight]

Hi all

Thought you may find these pdfs' of interest as they are written by Jacques Vallee and could contribute to the discussion on this thread. I have a few more and when i find them will place them here if any interest :)

Snipit of :
Five Arguments Against the Extraterrestrial
Origin of Unidentified Flying Objects

JACQUES F. VALLE

Abstract-Scientific opinion has generally followed public opinion in the
belief that unidentified flying objects either do not exist (the "natural phe-
nomena hypothesis") or, if they do, must represent evidence of a visitation
by some advanced race of space travellers (the extraterrestrial hypothesis or
"ETH"). It is the view of the author that research on UFOs need not be
restricted to these two alternatives. On the contrary, the accumulated data
base exhibits several patterns tending to indicate that UFOs are real, repre-
sent a previously unrecognized phenomenon, and that the facts do not
support the common concept of "space visitors." Five specific arguments
articulated here contradict the ETH: (1) unexplained close encounters are
far more numerous than required for any physical survey of the earth; (2)
the humanoid body structure of the alleged "aliens" is not likely to have
originated on another planet and is not biologically adapted to space travel;
(3) the reported behavior in thousands of abduction reports contradicts the
hypothesis of genetic or scientific experimentation on humans by an ad-
vanced race; (4) the extension of the phenomenon throughout recorded
human history demonstrates that UFOs are not a contemporary phenome-
non; and (5) the apparent ability of UFOs to manipulate space and time
suggests radically different and richer alternatives, three of which are pro-
posed in outline form as a conclusion to this paper.

PDF : http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_04_1_vallee_2.pdf


Snipit of :
BASIC PATTERNS IN UFO OBSERVATIONS
Claude Poher* and Jacques Vallee**

Abstract

This paper presents the view that (1) a significant proportion of the thousands of
UFO reports analyzed by the authors come from witnesses who have really observed
an object in the sky or at ground level; (2) the objects these witnesses have seen have
characteristics very different from all identifiable objects and phenomena; (3) the
phenomenon is of high scientific interest; and (4) a systematic research approach
can be defined.
These conclusions are based on many years of research into the phenomenon, in the
course of which the authors have had at their disposal the official Air Force files of
the United States and of France, as well as files of several reliable private
organizations. The paper presents the results of computer statistics obtained
independently, and it describes some correlations between geomagnetic
disturbances and UFO observations.

PDF : http://www.jacquesvallee.net/bookdocs/AIAA.pdf


Snipit of :
Are UFO Events related to Sidereal Time?
Arguments against a proposed correlation
by Jacques F. Vallee

Abstract

We report here on a study of the hypothesis that UFO events are correlated with
local sidereal time, an observation advanced by Dr. Claude Poher, Dr. Donald
Johnson and more recently by Dr. Peter Sturrock. Local sidereal time is used by
astronomers to keep track of the stars that pass the observer’s meridian at a
particular instant. A subset of a large catalog for which geographical and temporal
data are available was taken as a basis for the study, involving 11,991 events. Local
sidereal time was computed for these events. While a frequency distribution
indicative of a correlation with star positions was indeed detected, control with a
separate catalogue compiled in France discloses an important artefact: multiple
entries for a single, particularly remarkable UFO event have resulted in massively
duplicated records. This calls into question the significance of the claimed pattern.

PDF : http://www.ufoskeptic.org/Vallee_LST.pdf



sharon

[Operator]

There may be a question of stability/long term viability of underground bases... like it would be quite dumb, IMO, to set up camp right in the middle of a tectonically active subduction zone...

That could be a plausible explanation, although the southern Caribbean is located on its own plate and there
is no volcanic activity in our neighborhood and the number and intensity of earthquakes is very low.

However if I look at the number of underground nuclear testing that has taken place in the west of the USA
it raises some questions IMHO. Why do so many damaging unhealthy tests in your own backyard?
Could it be that they were fighting/blowing up 'undesired' inhabited/uninhabited bases?

Sometimes you have to entertain 'out of the box' thoughts to get closer to the truth ...

[Hervé]

[...]

... the southern Caribbean is located on its own plate and there is no volcanic activity in our neighborhood and the number and intensity of earthquakes is very low.

[...]


Have a look at where the boundary between the North American plate and the Caribbean plate is located... the subduction is what cause said Caribbean to popup...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Tectonic_plates_Caribbean.png/800px-Tectonic_plates_Caribbean.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Atlantic-trench.JPG


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/PRtrenchlocation.jpg


When I mention "Long term viability," I mean in the order of millennia; from the viewpoint of "ETs" having a life span of a couple of those....

[mojo]

Follow the money...it leads to Robert Bigelow and there's a people connection to the OP article... What is one subject of Bigelow research? There's the treasure...there's something and more than that quote and read between the lines here;

I propose: that the UFO we see is, among other things, a device which creates a distortion of the witness’s reality

among other things hmmmmmmmmmm.

[shadowstalker]

but you mix history with our current day life.

YES.... Because it's all interconnected....

[turiya]

Follow the money...it leads to Robert Bigelow and there's a people connection to the OP article... What is one subject of Bigelow research? There's the treasure...there's something and more than that quote and read between the lines here;

I propose: that the UFO we see is, among other things, a device which creates a distortion of the witness’s reality

among other things hmmmmmmmmmm.


"Reports of UFOs [Alien Contact] show all kinds of psycho-physiological effects on the witnesses' perception distortions, unconscious barriers, and mental blocks. Witnesses also show evidence of suggestion & post-hypnotic effects. Exposure to the phenomenon causes visions, hallucinations, physiological effects and long-term personality changes."--Jacques Vallee

I suspect that the alien invasion is already in progress.

turiya :cool:

[Operator]

Have a look at where the boundary between the North American plate and the Caribbean plate is located... the subduction is what cause said Caribbean to popup...


Hi Amzer, thanks for the great pictures. Where did you find such clear pictures?

However, I'm afraid they are not applicable to my situation ...

http://ftp.earthbyte.org/Research/Current/Resprojects/Platekinematics/Caribbean/fig2.jpeg

I am in the southern Caribbean on the ABC islands just north of Venezuela. On that plate under the words
Venezuela microplate. The ABC islands are tiny islands maybe because this area is not as seismic active as the
north Caribbean (no volcanoes and hardly any earthquakes).

Either I understood you wrong or you might be proving the opposite of what you said ...
If there is more seismic activity it would make a bad area for underground bases right? But Puerto Rico is 'known' for a
deep sea base and lots of UFO activity ... Can you expand again on what you said before?

[Hervé]

[...]

I am in the southern Caribbean on the ABC islands just north of Venezuela. On that plate under the words Venezuela microplate. The ABC islands are tiny islands maybe because this area is not as seismic active as the north Caribbean (no volcanoes and hardly any earthquakes).

Either I understood you wrong or you might be proving the opposite of what you said ...
If there is more seismic activity it would make a bad area for underground bases right? But Puerto Rico is 'known' for a deep sea base and lots of UFO activity ... Can you expand again on what you said before?

Thanks!

Now I see what you are talking about with your more detailed map. ABC islands are indeed far enough away from any troubles :)

As for Puerto Rico, I have no idea why there would be a base anywhere there unless it's an "immaterial" one (i.e. "portal") or else it would be a "mining" operation where "permanent" fixtures are not necessary. That's because a subduction zone turns rocks into scrambled rocks on a semi continuous basis and after a while everything is distorted unless offering a more "solid" pit/core as in squeezing cherry pits out. Which is what Puerto Rico seems to be as it appears to be a "floating" core/pit straddling two plates and being squeezed upward.

In any case, I was "talking" about subduction zones in general where there are constant, continuous accumulation and release of stress with respect to "permanent" underground bases able to remain intact over a couple of "their" lifetimes... without having to have to fix said bases every couple of centuries... :)

... or else, "their" bases are not of this "density" and therefore not affected by 3D physical phenomena... akin to "ghosts" not being really hindered by walls... :)

PS: For the pictures, check Wikipedia... :)

[turiya]

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"You are the ones who have welcomed us, who invite us to come close, and be in communication, and even communion with you. And all of your wondrous Guides and Angels, and dwellers of what you call the Higher Dimensionalities are here in this gathering!" (http://despertando.me/2011/08/06/ascended-masters-20110806-ashtar-freedom-to-fly-july-26-2011-teleconference/)--Archangel Desparanto & Ashtar


Jacques Vallee:
A Dreamworld Far Off

It is a common mistake to assume that contactees are always irresponsible crackpots or elderly mystics. A case in point is a young man named Gregory, whom I used to know as a systems programmer with one of our leading ‘think tanks’. He quit his job to form a psychic center. He is now publishing a newsletter devoted to his experiences with higher entities; he believes that, in so doing, he follows the telepathic instructions of a superior force. Some feel that he has found a new moral framework based on revelation. Others argue that he is the victim of a delusion that could spread like an epidemic.[11] In either case, the implications are serious. It is not because of their numbers or because of their leaders’ thirst for power that the followers of such sects will be especially influential. Our institutions are vulnerable to the spreading belief in the irrational. People like Gregory do offer us a new dream, but it is so far from reality that it could easily turn into a complete fantasy. Here is a sample of his writing, of his pseudo-historical ‘revelations’ received from wise beings who fly through outer space:



On the eastern shore of the Peaceful Sea, God brought forth the American Republic… For the purpose of assembling the high consciousness required to conceive and establish this new Union, God sent His son Melchizedek, one time Lord of Salem, unto Christopher Columbus…

Other contactee groups have overt political purposes. The leader of one such group told me:


The Earth is the property of one group of saucers that controls this end of the universe, and they call themselves the Brothers, and they are the ones who brought the Christ on Earth 2000 years ago… If we get a little out of control, and maybe Russia would start to throw some missiles at us, from Cuba… well, they might step in, if it got too bad, and help us out. They told us they would.


This group of contactees
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is nationally organized as a political party.


Before we reject these views as examples of harmless lunacy, we should observe that people once had the same view of the Church of Scientology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology). Indeed, the inventor of Dianetics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianetics) is said to have practiced ritual magic with a rocket expert named Jack Parsons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_%28rocket_propulsion_engineer%29), who met in the Mojave Desert in 1945 a ‘Spiritual Being’ whom he regarded as a Venusian. People also used to reject completely the beliefs of the Mormon Church, whose founder would today be [12] regarded as a contactee. But how many religious movements started in the same way?


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Crowley - Parsons - Hubbard

For every individual who is openly identified as a contactee, how many more have received what they regard as a ‘secret illumination’? It is apparent that the transformation they undergo can strike at any place and at any age. Is it purely random, then, or do the UFOs select their “victims”? Does it spread like an epidemic, or does it develop like a psychosis? Although a group of contactees was studied in detail by sociologist Leon Festinger (in his book When Prophecy Fails), we do no really know the answers to these questions, because too few of the contactees have been carefully investigated. What we do know is that their transformation releases ideas that challenge established structures.


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SOURCE (http://www.skepticink.com/lateraltruth/2014/01/15/skeptics-bookshelf-when-prophecy-fails-and-imaginary-friends/)
The followers of UFO cults are often persons who, like Gregory, have become disenchanted with science and technology. Scientific reluctance to consider valid claims of paranormal phenomena is slowly driving many people to accept any claim of superior or mystical contact. The voice of science has lied too often. A large fraction of the public has tuned it out completely.

The social sciences have not yet achieved an understanding of the process by which new religious experiences arise and new sects become influential churches; also, revolutionary cultural changes often appear at first (as the UFO sects do today) to be irrational, absurd, and contemptible. There is an historical parallel for this disenchantment with rationalism. To the educated disciples of Aristotle and Plato, many religious writings (such as the Apocalypse of St. John) must have looked like laughable tissues of delusions unworthy of scholarly examination. Aime’ Michel, the noted French author, has pointed out that none of these brilliant minds speculated for a second that such ‘lunacy’, spreading among their ignorant slaves, might eventually spell the end of the Classical World. In the nineteenth century, the religious establishment laughed when a young man named Joseph Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith) followed the orders given to him by an angel of light named Moroni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Moroni) and found the Mormon Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormons).[13]


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Beginnings of the Mormon Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moroni3a07131u.jpg)
Today we find it easy to laugh at the UFO contactees like Gregory because they are still isolated. We dismiss the phenomenon that fuels their beliefs as a mental aberration derived from a physical mirage. Scientists joke about the strange lights reported by housewives, and refuse to study the genuinely unexplained phenomena that are contained, for example, in the files of the U.S. Air Force. As for the claims of the contactees who believe they have been aboard the ‘vehicles’, the scientists simply know this cannot be true! By blatantly dismissing these claims, they are ignoring some of the hard lessons of man’s spiritual history. For, in the words of sociologists Glock & Stark, “all religious experiences, from the dimmest to the most frenzied, constitute occasions defined by those experiencing them as an encounter between themselves and some supernatural consciousness.”*

Faced with the new wave of experiences of UFO contact, our religions do seem obsolete. Our idea of the church as a social entity working within rational structures is obviously challenged by the claim of a direct communication with visible beings who are endowed with supernatural powers. Some modern preachers have already recognized this challenge. Evangelist Billy Graham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham), for example, has suggested that UFOs may, in fact, be ‘heavenly angels’; their occupants, he says, are “astonishingly angel-like in some of their reported appearances.”* Fundamentalist Presbyterian radio preacher Dr. Carl McIntire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_McIntire) has even organized a “UFO Bureau (http://theufobureau.com/)” in Collingswood NJ, to investigate the connection between UFOs and angels.

But why restrict our interest to the traditional view of angels? An equally impressive parallel could be made between UFO occupants and the popular conception of demons, and indeed sociologists have pointed out that “the same elements are involved in diabolic contacts as in the divine encounters of increasing intimacy with what is defined as a supernatural consciousness.”* There are even some religious thinkers who see the sinister hand of Satan in the more bizarre UFO cases. [14]
SOURCE (http://eatyourspinachbrother.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/messengers-of-deception.pdf)

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[turiya]

Jacques Vallee:

“We are dealing with a yet unrecognized level of consciousness, independent of man but closely linked to the earth…. I do not believe anymore that UFOs are simply the spacecraft of some race of extraterrestrial visitors. This notion is too simplistic to explain their appearance, the frequency of their manifestations through recorded history, and the structure of the information exchanged with them during contact.”—Jacques Vallee



2010 The UFO Activity - Proof of a Demonic Deception - PART 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3nkRqyXSc

2010 The UFO Activity - Proof of a Demonic Deception - PART 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRcVGBJQgec

2010 The UFO Activity - Proof of a Demonic Deception - PART 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gX3UAQ2o0M

2010 The UFO Activity - Proof of a Demonic Deception - PART 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8O5FWqsF44


2010 The UFO Activity Proof of a Demonic Deception PART 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkFdpo46xg


turiya :cool:

[STR]

I'm convinced they basically feed off our bio-energies produced daily by emotional reactions and the neuronal discharges going off in our brains from those reactions! That is why the 'stimulus packages' and the shock and awe and everything else! We know now, as intelligent as these beings are that the most intelligent response we can have to interactions of any kind with these beings or their servants doing their bidding, including but not limited to our own elected and royals is to be very cautious of them and fully expect them to turn on us and betray us should we trust them. Therefore even though their wisdom is great, and even though they pretend well with academy award winning performances and sometimes come through to reward in wonderous ways we cannot drop our guard with them while in the body.

In spirit we are all pretty much on the same page about this planet. That is why we take part in it but so many for whatever reasons choose to see something sinister in this. It is not being able to separate from the body to see the world in the way of spirit from that perspective that allows the fear. I'm guilty myself. We all get caught up. From this side it does appear evil, sinister and unfair. From the other side looking in? Well, not so much. M fave saying, calm seas do not make for skillful sailors, is so key here. So called evil has its place. From the perspective here though humans need to realize the ulterior motive of the experience, the multiple goals of the originators of this garden by these, dare I say, 'gods' and their agenda will always trump any other loyalties. Never forget that first and foremost they are always loyal to their own agenda and it doesn't matter if you part of their own blood. They still lie and deceive even their own sons and daughters.

Their agenda has a higher more grand view than ours. They have to slow way way down to even mess with us. Imagine it like this. Earth is like the ant colony they created to keep their living experiments in and under the old roofing insulation and in between joints of wood in an old building things are starting to rot. It has been the way it is from the last build job back in the fourth century BC (figuretively speaking )to what it is the day you tear into it to remake it.

Now this is a bad day to the ants trust me. To the ants below that have their world disrupted by your big hands and claw hammer it is a calamity, but to the person doing the work, with the grand view of what they hope the new roof and wood trim will look like after new better, thicker insulation and more rot resistant wood is added, well when the survivors drift back in and the colony rebuilds it will be even better than before and what we learned last time should make this one go even longer. The fact that the old had to be removed to do it is explained because it simply had to happen for it to be the way you wanted it to look ultimately.

What survives of the ant colony, rebuilds, reproduces and grows learning to adapt to new wood and new insulation for a home stronger and ready to continue on. Remember this when dealing with any of the creator beings or the grays or any of their various minions doing their work on earth, at least as long as you are having the organic experience. We cannot always see the greater picture these beings maintain for how they see things.

[turiya]

We know now, as intelligent as these beings are that the most intelligent response we can have to interactions of any kind with these beings or their servants doing their bidding, including but not limited to our own elected and royals is to be very cautious of them and fully expect them to turn on us and betray us should we trust them. Therefore even though their wisdom is great, and even though they pretend well with academy award winning performances and sometimes come through to reward in wonderous ways we cannot drop our guard with them while in the body.

The key point is to trust oneself, to really trust yourself. Trusting others becomes rather insignificant. It is of little importance, in comparison. To say these entities have some great wisdom, I would tend to disagree.

These false alien spirit guide pretenders are not of this physical existence. They are lacking an authentic physical reality experience. Therein lies their superficial nature, the shallowness of who they are. It can only go skin-deep, so to speak. For, with the existential experience of this physical dimension comes a deeper connection with one's own being.

They, too, are caught up with desires, like human beings also are. That is how they know how to snag their prey - dangling the carrot before a donkey's nose, works the same way for inexperienced human beings, too. Such are the ways to deal with jackasses. These entities, too, desire physicality & the experience that comes with it. What they don't understand, and have no experience of, is that they too will lose their so-called wisdom with the onslaught of forgetfulness. Because it is upon entering into a physical body, one will become forgetful of all the wisdom that was easily attainable on the upper levels of existence. Forgetfulness - it comes with the territory.

But the most significant point is this: to regain one's total recall, while experiencing this physicality, and I do suspect that you would see that these lechers that lust after this planet Earth would run away, scattering like the ants from a damaged ant hill.

Remembering who you are... is all that is needed.

turiya :cool:

[Qauntumreverse]

Very healthy topic to constantly question your perceptions/belief systems, we are surrounded by lies at every level even when you think/feel/know you have the answer it can change. Truth is energetic and enough truth will manifest within this realm so it can realign with the correct template. Until then have to keep reducing down our perceptions mercilessly.

[turiya]

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Oahspe: A New Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oahspe:_A_New_Bible)








Oahspe: A New Bible is a book published in 1882, purporting to contain "new revelations" from "...the Embassadors of the angel hosts of heaven prepared and revealed unto man in the name of Jehovih..." It was produced by an American dentist, John Ballou Newbrough (1828–1891), who reported it to have been written by automatic writing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_writing), making it one of a number of 19th-century spiritualist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualist) works attributed to that practice. Oahspe defines adherents of the disciplines expounded in Oahspe as "Faithists".
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Oahspe comprises a series of related interior books chronicling earth and its heavenly administrations, as well as setting forth teachings for modern times. Included are over 100 drawings. The title page of Oahspe describes its contents with these words:


A New Bible in the Words of Jehovih and His Angel Ambassadors. A Sacred History of the Dominions of the Higher and Lower Heavens on the Earth for the Past Twenty-Four Thousand Years together with a Synopsis of the Cosmogony of the Universe; the Creation of Planets; the Creation of Man; the Unseen Worlds; the Labor and Glory of Gods and Goddesses in the Etherean Heavens; with the New Commandments of Jehovih to Man of the Present Day.

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The "Tablet of Fonece,"
an illustration from Oahspe





Oahspe (the word is defined as "sky, earth (corpor) and spirit. The all; the sum of corporeal and spiritual knowledge as at present") was published in 1882.

Dr. Newbrough had started writing the book in 1880 and stated that the writing was done automatically; he had been a spiritualist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualism) since the early 1870s. On at least two occasions Newbrough wrote publicly about how the Oahspe came about through automatic writing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_writing). A letter published in the Banner of Light (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banner_of_Light) (a 19th-century Spiritualist Newspaper), and an Addendum in the 1882 Edition republished by Raymond A. Palmer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_A._Palmer) in 1972. Both accounts, written in the first person, indicate that Newbrough sat at a (newly invented) typewriter for half an hour each morning at which time his hands would automatically type (without his knowledge of what was being written). An article in The New York Times had him explain that, feeling the urge to write, he sat down with pen and paper until a bright light enveloped his fingers and they started writing. Moreover, many of the drawings contain symbols resembling hieroglyphs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieroglyphs), presumably drawn. A copy of the "Banner of Light" letter accompanied Oahspes published by the Kosmon Press in England (such as it was received in New Zealand in 1895).
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New York Times article (http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F20710F93F5B10738DDDA80A94D9415B8484F0D3)

Style and language

The first (1882 edition) publication, as it was originally presented in 1882, contained various glyphs, whose resemblance to real Egyptian hieroglyphs was attested to by Prof. Thomas A.M. Ward, who claimed to have deciphered the hieroglyphics on the Cleopatra's Needle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra%27s_Needle_%28New_York%29) obelisk in Central Park (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park). Ward was present at Oahspe's first presentation, as was Dr. Cetliniski, an Oriental scholar, who affirmed that mere mortals could not have produced such a book and that "supernatural agents" must have been responsible.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oahspe:_A_New_Bible#cite_note-nyt1-8)

The first reporter on the book, writing for The New York Times, compared the book's content to a revised fusion of Indian and Semitic religions, and said its style was "in one place modern, and in another ancient, and the English of the King James version of the Christian Bible is mixed in with the English of today's."

Basic teachings

Oahspe emphasized service to others (https://thecasswiki.net/index.php?title=Service_to_others_and_service_to_self); each person is graded according to service to others (https://thecasswiki.net/index.php?title=Service_to_others_and_service_to_self).[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oahspe:_A_New_Bible#cite_note-10) Each individual, group and nation is either in ascension or descension; sooner or later, all ascend, rising in grade. The higher one's grade, the better are the conditions within one's own soul, and the better the place awaiting one in heaven.

According to Oahspe, when mortals die their spirits continue to live, regardless of who they worshiped, or even whether they disbelieved in an afterlife. The spirit realm becomes their new home, which is called heaven, and the individual spirit is called an angel. There are unorganized heavens close to or on the earth. Also starting there - and linking to the highest heavens - are the organized heavens. Both types of heavens are accessible to mortals. If a portion of heaven lives in a state of chaos and delights in evil, that portion is called hell.

An angel must subsist for a season after death somewhere along a continuum of delightful to abysmally wretched conditions. The heavenly place where angels initially live is determined by what their habits were as mortals; as well as by their aspirations and diet. Selfish behavior, low thoughts, or eating animal derived food will place a newborn angel in the lowest level, being on the earth. Evil oriented persons enter heaven into hellish conditions. Nevertheless, all in descension eventually turn around and ascend upward to more delightful places within an organized heaven, whose chief is called God. God is an advanced angel ordained into office for a season.



PORTRAITS OF PROPHETS Whose Histories and Teachings are in OAHSPE


For More Portraits see OAHSPE Study and Faithism (http://oahspestandardedition.com/OSAC/OSAC_Index.html)

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Zarathustra

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Po, China Prophet

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Abraham

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Eawahtah (Hiawatha)


Critical reception

Science writer Martin Gardner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Gardner) compared the fantasy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy) claims in Oahspe with the The Urantia Book (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book). Gardner commented that Oahspe is even "crazier than the works of Swedenborg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Swedenborg) and Davis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson_Davis)."[27] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oahspe:_A_New_Bible#cite_note-27)
Gordon Stein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Stein) in the book Encyclopedia of Hoaxes (1993) noted that Oahspe has not been taken seriously because it was revealed to contain "many factual errors and unfulfilled prophecies."[28] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oahspe:_A_New_Bible#cite_note-28)

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oahspe:_A_New_Bible)

[Bill Ryan]

Here's the book: :thumbsup:


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Jacques Vallee - Messengers of Deception.pdf

[Perdido]

[QUOTE=SPIRIT WOLF;795193]

...It is why its so important and said to infinity...go within---learn from the self. Educate yourself through the self! When someone attempts to do this you realize that PRACTICALLY everything has been imparted to you...all knowledge is based on what another being says, teaches, advertises, proselytizes....

Rarely does anyone take truth/knowledge from themselves, so it has become a literally PIECE OF CAKE to lull a mass of people in any direction

I try to engage people in an in-depth conversation... and often they say, "Just tell me the answer."
Like there is just one truth.. one answer for say what happened in 1948?

Insanely simple, mindless, zombie robots.

[turiya]

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PART 1

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JIM’S BIO (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/bio.html)






Growing Up with Flying Saucers (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/index.html)
The Message (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/message.html)
Briefing Paper (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/briefing.html)
The Aldebaran Mystery (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/aldebaran.html)
Archons: Space Invaders (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/archons.html)
UFO Disclosure (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/disclosure.html)
The Secret Mars Colony (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/mars.html)
The Enemy Within (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/enemy.html)
Secret Societies and Flying Saucers (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/secret.html)
Nibiru III: Return of the Gods (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/Nibiru.html)
Global Control: End Game (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/control.html)
Transhumanism: Rise of the Cyborgs (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/transhuman.html)
UFOs Reconsidered (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/ufosreconsidered.html)
The Aeon of Horus: NASA’s Occult History (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/horus.html)
Atlantis Rising (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/atlantis.html)
Nixon, Kennedy and the Alien Presence (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/nixonjfk.html"")
UFO: Contact from the Pleiades 40th Anniversary (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/billymeiercase.html)
The "Tomorrowland" Mystery (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/tomorrowland.html)
The Final Frontier: Human Consciousness (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/final.html)
UFOs, Nazis and Admiral Richard E. Byrd (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/admbyrd.html)
The Occult Extraterrestrial War (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/occultetwar.html)
Corey Goode Controversy (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/goode.html)
UFOTV Youtube links (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/youtube.html)


‘Corey Goode Controversy’ Blog


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Over recent years whistleblower Corey Goode has gained national prominence regarding his claims to be privy to classified information regarding a fully operational Secret Space Program. Thanks to the efforts of researcher David Wilcock and Gaia TV Goode has become a full-fledged celebrity within the field of ufology. However over the course of 2016 it would seem that a team of unscrupulous promoters have launched a marketing campaign designed to propel Goode to near ‘rock-star’ status as ‘alien-contactee’ guru, time-traveler and comic book series hero. This blatantly commercial exploitation has placed Goode’s integrity as well as the validity of his extraordinary ‘insider’ testimony under serious critical scrutiny.


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SECRET SPACE PROGRAM

Actually escalation of this whole ‘Corey Goode Controversy’ has become a worthy study in Exopolitics: the examination of how a possible extraterrestrial contact my impact our population socially. With this in mind Corey’s Controversy serves as an excellent showcase of just how ‘Alternative-Media’ can be used and abused for nefarious purposes. At first blush it seems the Corey’s story may well be crafted to deflect and discredit serious research into the Secret Space Program itself, a topic of growing concern in recent years. However it should be clearly understood that challenges to Corey Goode’s credibility should not be viewed as an assault on Secret Space research altogether.


SECRET SPACE PROGRAM—SERIOUS BUSINESS!

Control of space is serious business. On January 7th, 1958, 33rd Degree Freemason Senator Lyndon Johnson made this cryptic statement concerning the future status of our National Defense and the Race for Space:

"Control of space means control of the world. From space, the masters of infinity would have the power to control the earth's weather, to cause drought and flood, to change the tides and raise the levels of the sea, to divert the Gulf Stream and change temperate climates to frigid. There is something more important than the ultimate weapon. And that's the ultimate position. The position of total control over the Earth that lies somewhere in outer space."


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The case for a covert space program remains solid and substantial and keeping the public in a constant state of cognitive-dissonance confusion about this operation protects its secrecy. Very likely Goode’s fanciful tales serve just such confusion.

But certainly Goode’s claims are NOT the linchpin that holds this research together—rather it seems like insubstantial fluff to keep the real story fogged with entertaining fiction. The core of the Secret Space Program’s authenticity lies in the testimony and research of credible individuals like, Gary McKinnon, William Tompkins, Dr. Robert Wood, Catherine Austin Fitts, Joseph P. Farrell and Richard Dolan as well as former astronaut Clark McClelland. Thus at the end of the day with Corey Goode’s testimony totally removed from this equation the case for a Secret Space Program remains solid and substantial.

Using common sense one asks, if in 1945 the military had technology to build an atomic bomb—would they? Of course they did and in complete secrecy. And today if the military has the technology to build a fully operational space fleet in complete secrecy—would they? I think the question answers itself!



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The tragedy in all of this is that while the technical skills of covert agencies grows exponentially the ignorance of the general public grows in equal proportion. The public is locked out of Area-51, chem-trails, transhumanism, Antarctica, free-energy, anti-gravity propulsion as well as Secret Space Projects! And the very agencies that enforce such public ignorance conversely mock the public for being so stupid! The mass population is being exponentially marginalized to utter irrelevance by an unseen world of super-technology; generating an overarching agenda that appears more anti-human with each passing moment.

Consider the recent VIP visitations to Antarctica: Patriarch Kiril III of Moscow [Knights of Malta], John Kerry [Skull & Bones], astronaut Buz Aldrin [Freemason] are all three SECRET SOCIETY members: For the general public Antarctic is now as off-limits as Area-51!

So in this regard one must ask if Corey Goode’s testimony proves utterly false does that prove him a lone opportunist charlatan or is he a shill for a cold, cunning intelligence PSYOP designed to further deepen public ignorance. Either way it seems the uphill slope to get to the REAL truth about any secret Deep State project just gets steeper and slipperier!


Merchandising Corey

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As Corey Goode’s merchandizing campaign gained full steam I found myself drawn inadvertently into its machinations as well. Upon discovering unauthorized use of my own artwork on a proposed Corey Goode book-cover I filed a quick protest to his unscrupulous managers stating that in no way would I allow my art to be used to endorse the dubious claims of Corey Goode.

As well Corey’s managers had the audacity to publically list researcher Linda Moulton Howe as a contributor to his book--also without proper permission.


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Blatant, flagrant merchandising of “Sphere Being Alliance”, “Corey’s Kids” and Corey’s SSP story in ‘comic book’ form does not lend one iota of authenticity to his notorious whistle-blower claims; nor does the shrill hysteria from his ardent followers screaming his critics are “Deep State/Fake News” shills. Sadly such vicious mudslinging only confirms to the mainstream public that all UFO researchers are nothing but a bunch of crack-pot con-artists in the first place.


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Truth is there’s no LAW that says clever opportunists can’t sell UFO fictions to the public. And there’s no law to protect people from their own gullibility… “A fool and his money are soon parted…” in fact the fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place! “Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances!” Gambling casinos do NOT protect gamblers from their own folly, and when tragic addicted gamblers lose their homes, cars, savings and self-respect, casinos do not kindly reimburse to these poor unfortunates the full measure of their losses.

Source (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/goode.html)

[turiya]

PART 2


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As well it must be understood that there’s a vast counter-culture market out there that WANTS to “believe” and is willing to PAY for enthralling, seductive tales of imminent ‘Alien Salvation!’ Is it wrong then for clever flimflam artists to take advantage of that cash market selling just the kind of “Gee-Whiz” “Space-Alien” entertainment those folks want to hear? [Gaia TV] It may not be honest, moral or ethical but it ain’t illegal! Anyway, why is it the public always seems more eager to pay for lies than for truth in the first place?

“Rationality belongs to the cool observer but because of the stupidity of the average man he follows not reason but faith, and this naïve faith requires necessary illusion and emotionally potent over-simplifications which are provided by the myth-makers to keep the ‘ordinary’ person on course.”




Noam Chomsky

Darker implications surfacing from the Corey Goode controversy suggest he and his team may be a front for a sex-magick drug cult behind the façade of “Sphere Being Alliance”. Are “Blue Avians” actually astral entities conjured up in their Magic-Circle workings???



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It appears as well that the main thrust of “Sphere Being Alliance” is preparation for the arrival of alien “Guardians” a near ‘angelic’ host of ‘benevolent’ extraterrestrials come to assist the human race—could it be a ‘False-Flag Alien-Savior’ PSYOP is in play here also? Otherwise it should be noted history of “Sky-God” intervention on planet Earth has resulted in the rise of some of the most cruel and oppressivebelief systems imaginable.


BLUE AVIANS?

Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt launched this investigation into Corey Goode’s fantastic claims in May of this year with an introductory discussion featuring Project Avalon’s Bill Ryan. In a lengthy accounting Ryan accurately detailed the fundamental flaws and outright fabrications of Corey Goode’s Secret Space story.


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But regarding Goode’s outrageous claim to be communing with ‘Blue Avian’ extraterrestrials, Ryan emphasized in the annals of ufology there was NO reference to half-human, half-bird, ‘Blue Avians’—a point to which I must take exception. If we take time to examine remote antiquity we find a very notorious ‘Blue Avian’ carved on the walls of Egyptian temples—the god Horus! This brings to mind the magical workings of occult Satanist Aleister Crowley, which in 1904 ushered the “Aeon of Horus” into our world—the age of Horus, the crowned and conquering child, when youth an immaturity will overthrow the age of Pisces and Christianity.


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In the annals of the occult, demons or astral entities conjured up in magical workings traditionally assume physical form as half-human, half animal, a fact that lends disturbing suspicion to the possibility that rather than contact with ‘benevolent’ aliens, Corey Goode himself may in fact be conjuring astral entities for nefarious purposes.

Actually the illustration renderings of Goode’s ‘Blue Avians’ blatantly display the two-finger ‘Baphomet’ satanic gesture.


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As well, the “Sphere Being Alliance” logo itself graphically suggests occult magic circle ritual for conjuring the ‘Blue Avian’ entity. As such we should regard any claims that ‘Blue Avians’ are benevolent “guardians” with extreme caution!

Of course this is not to say Corey’s ‘Avians’ are in fact malevolent but the public does have a right to be properly informed of potential hazards in any exchange with extraterrestrial or extradimensional entities.



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“UFOS and the Occult Extraterrestrial War”

Earlier this year I produced both an OPED blog as well as a video production for UFOTV Youtube, entitled “UFOS and the Occult Extraterrestrial War” which examines the “military industrial complex”in relation to the alleged “Secret Space Program”. This production was inspired in part by the revelations of former Navy engineer William Tompkins. Although far-fetched Tompkins’ revelations contained a structural, historical congruency that complimented my research into alleged German flying saucer projects from World War II. Tompkins explained how over the years those Nazi technologies evolved into what we now call the Secret Space Program.



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And though I did not fully accept all of Tompkins’ claims, the historical facts he referenced seemed substantial enough to warrant further examination. Despite his age Tompkins’ testimony seemed lively and engaging and I was hoping at some point to even have the opportunity to interview him personally.

Of course concurrent with the rise of William Tompkins in the public spotlight has been the testimony of Corey Goode who also claimed insider knowledge of Secret Space Operations, however by comparison Goode’s version seemed little more than exaggerated embellishments of Tompkins’ tales. On camera Goode’s demeanor seemed flat and far less convincing than Tompkins. As well since Goode’s testimony lacked the wealth of substantiating historical evidence that Tompkins produced I saw no value in including Goode’s material in either my blog or video production.



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William Tompkins’ last interview with Kerry Cassidy, scheduled in January of this year, was abruptly cancelled and Tompkins has been silent ever since—a vacuum that has been copiously filled with vacuous Corey Goode blathers ever since. In his absence William Tompkins’ testimony has been totally eclipsed by Corey Goode selling his distracting, fanciful “Sphere Being Alliance” stories instead, which begs the question, has William Tompkins been DELIBERATELY silenced?

Conveniently Corey Goode and his managers have since made proprietary claims to Tompkins’ material by including it in a forthcoming book, which with dubious integrity they are allegedly producing along with Michael Salla and David Wilcock.

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However, it would seem to me if Corey Goode’s testimony was truly valid he would welcome and actually encourage continued open discussion from William Tompkins to further legitimize his own ‘Sphere Being Alliance’ claims. But instead Corey Goode has elbowed his way into exclusive center stage limelight in the SSP discussion totally dumping Tompkins into the shadows. This all seems calculated, diabolical and suspiciously motivated by more than marketing profits to me! As well one must ask if Tompkins’ story is TRUE what agencies would benefit by having him silenced?

SOURCE (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/goode.html)

[turiya]

PART 3


CAPTAIN AMERICA

But who needs Corey Goode when you’ve got CAPTAIN AMERICA? Why just talk about a Secret Space Program when you can actually SEE it? Marvel’s 2014 sequel to Captain America is a full-fledged ‘info-mercial’ for the Deep State’s Secret Space Program. Everyone knows Hollywood is the “Town-Crier” for the National Security State to publicly showcase its One-World -Order ambitions.



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Captain America: The Winter Soldier is no exception! This film graphically reveals “the overall plan of the technocratic elite to create an enslaved, biologically retarded mass under the dominance of an A.I. grid.” Intrepid Super-Hero Steve Rogers is pitted against the launch of space battle-ships bent on full-spectrum dominance, bristling with beam-weapon cannons and propelled with anti-gravity engines—the work of Tony Stark’s genius father Howard Stark [Howard Hughes] and his corporate defense industry empire.



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Howard Hughes/Howard Stark?

Segments of this film could easily have been pulled directly from the whistle-blower testimony of former Navy engineer William Tompkins who last year confided “I was assigned to design for the Navy about 16 to 18 different classes of U.S. Navy battle-group ships… These ships fly in space …I designed U.S. Navy Spacecraft Carriers, which finally got built back in the late '70s up in Utah, underneath the ground.”



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The Captain America movie graphically shows the underground bunkers where these space ships are constructed and even reveals their propulsion to be advanced from top secret World War II Nazi engineering projects just as Tompkins stated. Upon viewing these ominous warships hero Steve Rogers understandably questions whether such weapons are intended for defense or domination—the same question we are asking about SSP right now!


FINAL THOUGHTS

As far back as the summer of 1952, CIA Director Walter Bedelle Smith sent a memorandum to the Director of the Psychological Strategy Board, MJ-12 member Gordon Gray, outlining the CIA’s proposal to the National Security Council stating that the UFO issue presented clear "implications for psychological warfare.”



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Smith went on to state, “I suggest that we discuss at an early board meeting the possible offensive or defensive utilization of these phenomena for psychological warfare purposes.”--A mind-control game that continues to this day. Both mainstream and alternative media continue to serve as testing platforms for monitoring public reactions to the idea of extraterrestrial contact--to see how easily and who specifically can be fooled into believing anything!



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Ultimately the whole Corey Goode controversy itself seems suspiciously to serve as a clever distraction from the fundamental issue—the SECRET SPACE PROJECT itself--So let’s get back on topic! Once again let me re-state the serious questions I posed at the conclusion of my “UFOS and the Occult Extraterrestrial War”video…

Are claims of the existence of a Secret Space Fleet actually legitimate, and if so who ultimately OWNS that space fleet; the U.S. Navy or Rothschild/Zionist bankers?

William Tompkins revealed "We've all been lied to for a minimum of 6000 years."—as well he declared the Second World War with Germany was nothing more than the terrestrial extension of a far greater inter-galactic conflict between Draco-Reptilians and Nordic extraterrestrials that has been raging for centuries.



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“Our planet has been a battleground for warring extraterrestrial cultures for thousands of years...The result has been wars, destruction and attempts to hinder our progress.”

Trillions of dollars unaccountably vanish from our national defense budget--are these monies financing secret space fleet protection? They could just as easily be financing a utopian off-world habitat for the super-elite while leaving the planets’ expendable surface dwellers to languish in toxic, sweat-shop slavery…! Skunkworks aerospace engineer Ben Rich stated…

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An arrogant declaration that begs the question, if these technologies don’t benefit humanity, just who DO they benefit??? Is a Secret Space Fleet the ultimate protection of the human race—or the ultimate threat?

These urgent questions remain unanswered and foolish ‘Corey Goode controversies’ bring us no closer to getting these questions answered. Time has come to put SERIOUS Secret-Space-Program research back on track and start drilling deeper for the truth of this dangerous, demanding mystery!



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“QUIET WEAPONS FOR SILENT WARS”

In his book “Behold a Pale Horse” Cooper reveals the full text from a document discovered in an IBM copier in 1986 that explicitly details an ‘Illuminati’ blueprint for engineering a fully mechanized totalitarian social order…


“… In view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.

Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquility, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy of the undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible, and worthy few.

Silent weapon technology has evolved from Operations Research, a strategic and tactical methodology developed under the military management in England during World War II…
It was soon recognized by those in positions of power that the same methods might be useful for totally controlling a society.

Social engineering, the analysis and automation of a society, requires the correlation of great amounts of constantly changing economic information, so a high-speed computerized data-processing system was necessary which would race ahead of the society and predict when society would arrive for capitulation.

Thus a nation becomes divided into two very distinct parts, a DOCILE SUB-NATION(the great silent majority) and a POLITICAL SUB-NATION (the National-Security-State). The political sub-nation remains attached to the docile sub-nation, tolerates it, and leaches its substance until it grows strong enough to detach itself and then DEVOUR its parent.”

This begs the question; if the Secret Space Program is a tool of the National Security State does it serve as the instrument for the “Final Solution” demise of the DOCILE SUB-NATION?



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James H. Nichols 7/4/17 (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/goode.html)




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The Message (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/message.html)
Briefing Paper (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/briefing.html)
The Aldebaran Mystery (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/aldebaran.html)
Archons: Space Invaders (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/archons.html)
UFO Disclosure (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/disclosure.html)
The Secret Mars Colony (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/mars.html)
The Enemy Within (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/enemy.html)
Secret Societies and Flying Saucers (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/secret.html)
Nibiru III: Return of the Gods (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/Nibiru.html)
Global Control: End Game (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/control.html)
Transhumanism: Rise of the Cyborgs (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/transhuman.html)
UFOs Reconsidered (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/ufosreconsidered.html)
The Aeon of Horus: NASA’s Occult History (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/horus.html)
Atlantis Rising (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/atlantis.html)
Nixon, Kennedy and the Alien Presence (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/nixonjfk.html)
UFO: Contact from the Pleiades 40th Anniversary (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/billymeiercase.html)
The "Tomorrowland" Mystery (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/tomorrowland.html)
The Final Frontier: Human Consciousness (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/final.html)
UFOs, Nazis and Admiral Richard E. Byrd (http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/admbyrd.html)
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[turiya]

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Jacques Vallee:

"While the hypothesis of alien contact is an exciting one, justified on the basis of continuing observations of unidentified flying objects, it carries the potential for exploitation and manipulation by deceptive groups with their own hidden agenda.

I believe that UFOs are physically real. The represent a fantastic technology controlled by an unknown form of consciousness. But I also believe that it would be dangerous to jump to premature conclusions about their origin and nature, because the phenomenon serves as the vehicle for images that can be manipulated to promote belief systems tending to the long-term transformation of human society.

I have tried to identify some of the manipulators and to highlight their activities., which range from apparently harmless hoaxes, such as the false professor George Adamski's meeting with Venusian spacemen to bloody expeditions that have littered the American landscape with the carcasses of mutilated animals.

I have found disturbing evidence of dangerous sectarian activities linked to totalitarian philosophies. The ease with which journalists and even scientists can be seduced into indiscriminate promotion of such deceptions is staggering.

In the context of an academic attitude that rejects any open investigation of paranormal phenomena, such fanatical conversions must be expected. For me, that is only one more reason for an independent thinker to remain vigilant against false ideas and simplistic political notions planted by those I have called the "Messengers of Deception."-- Messengers of Deception, Foreword (Pages v-vi)


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[turiya]

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Jacques Vallee:

"While the hypothesis of alien contact is an exciting one, justified on the basis of continuing observations of unidentified flying objects, it carries the potential for exploitation and manipulation by deceptive groups with their own hidden agenda.

I believe that UFOs are physically real. They represent a fantastic technology controlled by an unknown form of consciousness. But I also believe that it would be dangerous to jump to premature conclusions about their origin and nature, because the phenomenon serves as the vehicle for images that can be manipulated to promote belief systems tending to the long-term transformation of human society.

I have tried to identify some of the manipulators and to highlight their activities., which range from apparently harmless hoaxes, such as the false professor George Adamski's meeting with Venusian spacemen to bloody expeditions that have littered the American landscape with the carcasses of mutilated animals.

I have found disturbing evidence of dangerous sectarian activities linked to totalitarian philosophies. The ease with which journalists and even scientists can be seduced into indiscriminate promotion of such deceptions is staggering.

In the context of an academic attitude that rejects any open investigation of paranormal phenomena, such fanatical conversions must be expected. For me, that is only one more reason for an independent thinker to remain vigilant against false ideas and simplistic political notions planted by those I have called the "Messengers of Deception."-- Messengers of Deception, Foreword (Pages v-vi)


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Jacq... Deception.pdf (http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Jacques%20Vallee%20-%20Messengers%20of%20Deception.pdf)







What better way is there to implement a 'Deceptive' agenda than to transmit an energetic frequency field that would bestow a sense of blissful tranquility upon human individuals... leaving the contactee / abductee yearning & forever wanting more of the same... thus, setting up a kind of dependency on various members of a human population, who desire to have Extraterrestrials continue to revisit them, and be amongst the rest of us...

Quite the manipulation, to say the least... Is it any wonder that so many UFO religions have arisen? Often times the entities disguise themselves as historic religous figures.


In the Presence of Aliens: A Euphoric
& Other-worldly Feeling is Often Felt
(Published on June 28, 2015)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S5uBpz5TLs

[turiya]

Following with the above Messengers of Deception meme...

Here we have Barbara Lamb, professional Regression Hypno-Therapist expert, has regressed thousands of people that have had alien abduction experiences. Barbara has seen both sides of the malevolent / benevolent spectrum when it comes to Alien / Military abductions... and has had a small glimpse, through the minds & experiences of her clients, she has seen that both the 'good' aliens & 'bad' are present here on Earth. It still remains for her to actually see that the two - the 'good' & the 'bad' - they actually reside on the same coin... working together to deceive humanity in implenting their agenda - to possess this prescious jewel of a planet Earth for themselves.

Little to her knowing, Barbara's 'gullibility factor' still remains quite high.


Barbara Lamb:
Military / ETs Collaborating in Abductions
(Published on July 19, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpRyUwrgD6E

Yes - In other words, the so-called 'good' ETs and the 'bad' work together, to move their grande deception forward. While appearing to be opposed to each other, they have done a good job in keeping the human population utterly dazed & confused as to what is really going on behind the scenes. Looking angelic one moment, and then like blood-sucking, gene-stealing, infant-eating, venomous Reptiles the next.

If only humanity were not so easy to befool.

The real reason behind this great deception - appearing like angels, benevolent beings, here to help & serve humanity - is because they need a certain percentage of the population that wants these ETs to be here on this planet Earth. Without this free-will desire, Mother Earth would be free to dispel these unwanted, uninvited guests back out into deep-space... back to where they've come from. But as long as a certain percentage of humanity wants these deceptive ET entities to be here, Mother Earth is obliged to comply, to honor her human children's desires. She has to comply because it's a matter the Universal Law of Free Will, She honors Her human populous. Its only because human beings want these entities to be here is why Mother Earth allows them to remain. It all depends on us - the human population - to wake itself up to the diabolical agenda that these creatures have been planning & scheming for the past several hundred years.

Together with the Black-Ops military playing their part in this Grand Deception scheme, humanity looks to have little chance to take on its responsibility for itself.

Wake up people. See the deception that is rolling over you. Time is running short...

[Flash]

In the same vein as your, humanity has been serve the good and the bad stories because in their inner most development (or undevelopment), they are squeeze with the PERSECUTOR-VICTIM-SAVIOR complex, which is a full fledge archetype to which all of humanity and planet earth have succombed (Fallen).

This perpetual loop in between the three stops évolutions and the development of self responsibility.

When the victim says : I HAVE BEEN HURT, a savior comes and says I WILL HELP YOU and then goes against the persecuter who then says I AM THEEE VICTIM and those you consider victime are MY PERSECUTOR, then the victim starting to feel its anger which is often justified will want TO PERSECUTE her persecuter and blame the savior for not helping more - so the persecuter becomes in turn the victim, the original victime becomes the persecutors and the savior changes her target. AT one point the savior becomes victim as well (think of all the real whistleblowers).

This is why it is soooo important not to give violence back, as not to pursue this destructive archetype and instead take full responsibilities for our victimhood and turn away energetically, not give an inch of a take to real life persecutors. Extremely difficult to do, but doable.

This is also why playing with this archetype is soooooo easy for nefarious intentions and nefarious énergies/beings.

Therefore, the game good/bad ET is probably right, they at present all bad, until we take our own responsibilities and take care of our own.

Goodie is a full fledge archetype sponsor and implementer with its savior ETs.

And Bill, Dark Journalist and others are actually cancelling Goodes énergies and will to implement this persecutor/victim/savior archetype. Using logic and proof base thinking. We just have to be careful not to persecute in turn, and just remain the observers and naming what we see.






Following with the above Messengers of Deception meme...

Here we have Barbara Lamb, professional Regression Hypno-Therapist expert, has regressed thousands of people that have had alien abduction experiences. Barbara has seen both sides of the malevolent / benevolent spectrum when it comes to Alien / Military abductions... and has had a small glimpse, through the minds & experiences of her clients, she has seen that both the 'good' aliens & 'bad' are present here on Earth. It still remains for her to actually see that the two - the 'good' & the 'bad' - they actually reside on the same coin... working together to deceive humanity in implenting their agenda - to possess this prescious jewel of a planet Earth for themselves.

Little to her knowing, Barbara's 'gullibility factor' still remains quite high.


Barbara Lamb:
Military / ETs Collaborating in Abductions
(Published on July 19, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpRyUwrgD6E

Yes - In other words, the so-called 'good' ETs and the 'bad' work together, to move their grande deception forward. While appearing to be opposed to each other, they have done a good job in keeping the human population utterly dazed & confused as to what is really going on behind the scenes. Looking angelic one moment, and then like blood-sucking, gene-stealing, infant-eating, venomous Reptiles the next.

If only humanity were not so easy to befool.

The real reason behind this great deception - appearing like angels, benevolent beings, here to help & serve humanity - is because they need a certain percentage of the population that wants these ETs to be here on this planet Earth. Without this free-will desire, Mother Earth would be free to dispel these unwanted, uninvited guests back out into deep-space... back to where they've come from. But as long as a certain percentage of humanity wants these deceptive ET entities to be here, Mother Earth is obliged to comply, to honor her human children's desires. She has to comply because it's a matter the Universal Law of Free Will, She honors Her human populous. Its only because human beings want these entities to be here is why Mother Earth allows them to remain. It all depends on us - the human population - to wake itself up to the diabolical agenda that these creatures have been planning & scheming for the past several hundred years.

Together with the Black-Ops military playing their part in this Grand Deception scheme, humanity looks to have little chance to take on its responsibility for itself.

Wake up people. See the deception that is rolling over you. Time is running short...

[turiya]

Goodie is a full fledge archetype sponsor and implementer with its savior ETs.

And Bill, Dark Journalist and others are actually cancelling Goodes énergies and will to implement this persecutor/victim/savior archetype. Using logic and proof base thinking. We just have to be careful not to persecute in turn, and just remain the observers and naming what we see.





Thank you, Flash.
Yes, an important point to be made...

There is no need for a savoir to remove the blinders that are worn by the many.
Removal can only really be accomplished by the wearer of one's own blindfold.

In the same regard, pointing a finger at a victim that now serves to promote himself as a liberating savior, who repititiously repeats 'Law of One' gospel nonsense (speaking of UFO religions), this would hardly justify the wearing of a blinder by the one doing the finger-pointing. In reality - yes - all are befooled into pointing fingers at each other.

This is quite the manipulation that is in progress as we s̶p̶e̶a̶k̶... er... I mean write... at the very least. A grande manipulation that is presently on-going. Accomplished by the (one & only) 'Messengers of Deception'.

This reminds me of a TV show that I use to watch when I was younger. There is this one episode that makes for a very good analogy for what is taking place in front of our very eyes... They must be enjoying the drama of the ongoing scene ever so much... as they move their pieces about on the game board...

Could it be that such effects are actually intended, through some process of social conditioning?


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Jacques Vallee:
“Could it be that such effects are actually intended, through some process of social conditioning?”—Jacques Vallee, (page 9) Messengers of Deception, A Dream World Far Off


The Twilight Zone: The Monsters
Are Due on Maple Street
(Uploaded July 20, 20017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRxVmKGzlg

[turiya]

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Jacques Vallee:

“If UFOs did not have an extraterrestrial cause, if they were not space visitors, then what? I suggested that the phenomenon, or at least its social effects, might be closely monitored by a human group -- not necessarily a government. No analysis of the problem would be complete if it did not address the possibility that a group of unknown persons either influences the phenomenon itself or is using public reaction for its own purposes.

Preposterous? -- My host did not seem to think so...

Standing by the window my friend looked at the darkening streets, then turned around to say, "That possibility does exist. But we know what human beings would do with such power. I have seen the effects of power, believe me, in my years in government. If your hypothesis turns out to be the answer, I will jump into the Seine without waiting for developments."”—Jacques Vallee, (page 5) Messengers of Deception, A Dream World Far Off


Dr Steven Greer is not one of my most favorite individuals, but on this particular video, I can agree with about 80-90% of what he says...







Steven Greer:
"You have to begin to understand that there is a capacity to use this sort of information in a way that would come down to whom?

The Military-Industrial-GangBankster-Global Complex of Fascists that are desperate to have World War 3 be interplanetary."


(Originally Published on Feb 8, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFSGU02hJsQ

[turiya]

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Man-made UFO

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Chris Thomas wrote:
"We have been fed fabrications and lies to make us more compliant and fearful. Fortunately, as we progress through our change of consciousness, these kinds of lies can be spotted much more easily and hence, the rise in the number of people speaking out against these atrocities.

Actions Taken to Specifically Promote the Annunaki Plan
Let us start with the use of technology such as HAARP which stands for "High-energy Active Auroral Research Program". The first HAARP station was built in Alaska but there are now several others dotted around the planet. The Military claim that it is not a military project but was set up for the use by the military for "over the horizon" radar and communications. It might very well be used for these purposes but its two main uses are weather modification, mainly to cause droughts and famines but more recently, it has been used to flood the Earth with Extra Low Frequency waves.

These ELF waves are intended to slow down the Earth's rising frequencies (from 7.56 Hz to 3.5 kHz) as well as to slow down our own consciousness reintegration. These are very deliberate acts and have caused some disruption to our process of change.

UFO Discloser
We are also likely to see, in the very near future, a general disclosure of the UFO contact information held by the United States. This massive cover up has been going on since 1947 and the Roswell crash. However, this will be a limited disclosure of evidence as it will be geared towards making us believe that the Annunaki are our makers and the "gods" of the Old Testament. This Annunaki disclosure will be linked into the Human Genome Project, indicating that the 'elite' carry Annunaki genes. This disclosure is also designed to destroy current religious beliefs."






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"It is also important to recognize that the Anunnaki are fighting with a number of more recently arrived races of beings and not only the reptilians running the Vatican.

From everything I have been able to decipher, the Anunnaki of the "Sitchin variety" that is Enki/Enlil and their relations are if anything humanoid/reptilian hybrids (one-half reptilian and one-half Anunnaki humanoid) while the full blooded Reps beneath the Vatican are just that... Draco/Reps who believe this planet is theirs and have been trying to take it back for centuries.

It is worth noting that humans such as the Illuminati bloodline are more like 1/12th reptilian."-- Kerry Cassidy / Project Camelot article, Shell Game (http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/1790-shell-game) - A notion that many of the elite being Annunaki hybrids.

"Whilst there have been many sightings of UFOs, or NTVs as they are now officially called - Non Terrestrial Vehicles, over many years, many of which are genuine, in more recent years, the vast majority of sightings of NTVs have been of secret military craft that have been built using technology copied from downed NTVs.

At the same time as these "human UFOs" are appearing, there is also the emergence of a new technology, namely hologram projectors. This hologram technology has been developed over a number of years by the military and the filmmakers of Hollywood working together. This technology is now so advanced that holograms of NTVs hung over the cities of Moscow and Peking in early 2010. I have researched the Akashic to try to find a race who have built pyramid shaped craft - and there are none. The only source of this design of craft appears to be the Hollywood movie crowd, and subsequent TV series called "Stargate".

Not only is this technology capable of projecting massive moving craft, it has also been refined to project religious figures (https://youtu.be/Jxg_Tu7i8qg)."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxg_Tu7i8qg

"The latest advances in this technology indicate that the holographic projections can be made to appear to speak. This gives a great potential for religious-type figures to appear in our skies and speak to the people gathered below."

SOURCE: The Annunaki Plan? - Or - The Human Plan?
by Chris Thomas (pages 61-63)


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Pyramid UFO SuperIntending
Hebei Luannan Power Plant, China 9/9/2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk_jWOYF8bg

[turiya]

Military-built UFOs...


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________________________

MICHAEL SCHRATT
AEROSPACE ALLEY 2017
(Published on Jun 12, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ekr9PwYL_w

[Perdido]

Military-built UFOs...


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MICHAEL SCHRATT
AEROSPACE ALLEY 2017
(Published on Jun 12, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ekr9PwYL_w

Interesting info on USA Secret Aviation Development..

But actual photos of Destruction of Space Shuttle Challenger...
photos from inside with the crew, outside, and impact... plus the cockpit laying on the ocean floor.

Impact ocean at 170-200 mph.. basically 200 Gs.

That section starts at 1:04:00 at the end of this video.


MICHAEL SCHRATT - AEROSPACE ALLEY 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ekr9PwYL_w

[turiya]

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Jacques Vallee:
“For every individual who is openly identified as a contactee, how many more have received what they regard as a "secret illumination"?

It is apparent that the transformation they undergo can strike at any place and at any age.



Is it purely random, then, or do the UFOs select their "victims"? —Jacques Vallee, (page 13) Messengers of Deception, A Dream World Far Off
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[turiya]

Speaking of being selected by extraterrestrials... here's a clip of JZ Knight, and her Alien associate - Ramtha - who obviously selected0 JZ Knight as their choice... to (unknowingly) serve the Messengers of Deception as one of their agents. While forming a cult around her channeled entity, Ramtha brazingly admits that s/he must 'plant' thoughts, concepts, within the mind of his/her devotees...

In essence, the Alien Invasion has already begun. And, its really been going on for some time, now. They operate as the banksters operate their banking system... transforming humanity over long periods of time. Implanting useful thought patterns within humanity over time, moving ever more slowly toward total & complete subjugation . They've learned that taking a religous & spiritual path is the best way to work their way onto planet Earth & into the minds of their human targeted victims...


Ramtha: "I Must Plant In
Your Mind Outrageous Concepts"
(Published July 28, 2017)

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Judy Zebra "JZ" Knight (born Judith Darlene Hampton, March 16, 1946) is an American New Age (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age) teacher and author known for her purported channelling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumship) of a spiritual entity named Ramtha.

Knight appeared on The Merv Griffin Show in 1985 and wrote the autobiographical A State of Mind in 1987. Time called her "probably the most celebrated of all current channelers". She is currently the president of JZK, Inc and Ramtha's School of Enlightenment, located near the town of Yelm, Washington, and the name of Ramtha is copyrighted under JZ Knight. She also won a court case which affirmed that she is the sole legal channeler of the entity Ramtha. She also appeared in the 2004 documentary What the Bleep Do We Know!?, produced by members of the Ramtha School.

Knight claims to bridge ancient wisdom and the power of consciousness together with the latest discoveries in science. Some of the ideas are similar to those of Shirley MacLaine, which have in turn been criticized for being "kindergarden metaphysics" by mathematician and skeptic Martin Gardner. Ramtha's teachings have been criticized by scientists and skeptics.

Knight lives in a 12,800-square-foot (1,190 m2) French chateau-style home and, next door, teaches courses and runs Ramtha's School of Enlightenment.

Knight has been married three times and is the mother of two children from her first marriage (Brandy and Christopher),[9] which ended in divorce.

Career
Knight grew up in poverty. After graduating from high school, she dropped out of business school. She later worked in the cable television industry, and due to her work moved to Tacoma, Washington, where a psychic told her the "Enlightened One" would appear to her in the future. She says that Ramtha first appeared to her in her kitchen in 1977.

Knight appeared on The Merv Griffin Show in 1985 and wrote the autobiographical A State of Mind in 1987. Time called her "probably the most celebrated of all current channelers". She is currently the president of JZK, Inc and Ramtha's School of Enlightenment, located near the town of Yelm, Washington, and the name of Ramtha is copyrighted under JZ Knight. She also won a court case which affirmed that she is the sole legal channeler of the entity Ramtha. She also appeared in the 2004 documentary What the Bleep Do We Know!?, produced by members of the Ramtha School.

After an absence from public view of several years, she returned to public speaking on radio and in magazines and workshops. She was a guest on Coast To Coast AM with George Noory on August 14, 2011.

Ramtha
"Ramtha" (the name is claimed to be derived from Ram and to mean "the God" in Ramtha's language) is the name of a reputed entity whom Knight says she channels. According to Knight, Ramtha was a Lemurian warrior who fought the Atlanteans over 35,000 years ago. Knight claims that Ramtha speaks of leading an army over 2.5 million strong (more than twice the estimated world population at about 30,000 BC) for 63 years, and conquering three fourths of the known world (which was allegedly going through cataclysmic geological changes). According to Knight, Ramtha led the army for 10 years until he was betrayed and almost killed.

Knight maintains that Ramtha spent the next seven years in isolation recovering and observing nature, the seasons, his army making homes and families, and many other things. She says that he later mastered many skills, including foresight and out-of-body experiences, until he led his army to the Indus River while in his late fifties. According to Knight, Ramtha taught his soldiers everything he knew for 120 days, he bid them farewell, rose into the air and in a bright flash of light he ascended before them. Knight says that he made a promise to his army that he would come back to teach them everything he had learned. JZ Knight says that in 1977 Ramtha appeared before her and told her that he had come to help her over the ditch. JZ Knight claims to have become his first student of what she calls the great work.

Teachings
Ramtha is the central figure (the "master teacher") of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment, started by Knight in 1987 near the town Yelm, Washington. Classes (or "dialogues") had been held around the world for the previous 10 years. There are currently over 6,000 students of Knight's teachings.

A central theme of Knight's teachings involves the internalization of divinity ("God is in Us", "You are God, Behold God"). Knight describes Ramtha as having brought his knowledge to many ancient civilizations in the world such as the Ancient Egyptians. Her website also suggests that traces of the lineage of the original teachings and philosophies she claims Ramtha taught 35,000 years ago have appeared throughout history in the schools of philosophers such as Socrates, religions such as Hinduism and Judaism, and the works of great minds such as Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo.

The four cornerstones of Knight's philosophy are:

The statement 'You are god'
The directive to make known the unknown
The concept that consciousness and energy create the nature of reality
The challenge to conquer yourself

Knight's teachings appear to be a mixture of Jungian philosophy, Western occult traditions and contemporary positive-thinking attitudes (such as New Age beliefs)[20] and have yet to stand against elementary skepticism or scrutiny. Predictions made by Knight in the name of the disembodied entity have either failed to come true (e.g. predicting that a holocaust would take place in 1985, or that the USA would be involved in a major war in 1985) or the predicted scenarios are too wide to evaluate and/or have too large an error margin to be considered, which is usually the case with channelers.

When Knight says she is channeling Ramtha she speaks mostly in English in what sounds like an accent from the Indian Raj, sometimes in a simplistic way. The claimed entity "Ramtha" has expressed confusion about modern items (or even the ability to read English), although he seems to have clear understanding of complex issues of modern physics, such as the quantum field or neurology, which appear frequently in his speeches. During the alleged channeling of Ramtha, JZ Knight behaves a bit differently and speaks in a deeper and stern voice.

In her teachings "Ramtha" has made several controversial statements such as that Christianity is a "backward" religion, that Jesus' parables can be explained by means of photon waves and probability, that "murder isn't really wrong or evil" (if one believes in reincarnation), or (during the court case JZ Knight v Jeff Knight) Jeff Knight stated that Ramtha had declared that HIV is Nature's way of 'getting rid of' homosexuality.

Controversy and criticism
Most books regarding Ramtha and RSE come from JZK Publishing, one of the several companies started by Knight. Other books somewhat sympathetic to Ramtha, such as Finding Enlightenment: Ramtha's School of Ancient Wisdom by Gordon Melton, have ties to RSE in other ways. The author of Finding Enlightenment testified for Knight in Knight vs. Knight (1992–1995) against her former husband, Jeffery Knight (see below).

Skeptics point to Ramtha's story as proof that he does not exist. Ramtha claims to come from the continent of Lemuria and to have conquered Atlantis. The existence of the two locations are considered of legendary nature, and neither have been found. Furthermore, the claim that Ramtha led an army of 2.5 million contradicts estimates of the world population at 33,000 BC, and her claims of clairvoyant, telepathic, telekinetic and other ESP abilities, for which there is no scientific support, have been heavily criticized by skeptics and scientific communities.

Ramtha's claim that every person can learn to create their own reality is itself a philosophical paradox. Julian Baggini, in his book The pig that wants to be eaten, argues that if everyone was capable of creating their own realities with their minds, it would be problematic as one person could then create a reality in which no one was allowed to create their own realities.

Magician and skeptic James Randi said that Ramtha's believers have "no way of evaluating [her teachings]", while Carl Sagan in his book The Demon-Haunted World says that "the simplest hypothesis is that Ms. Knight makes 'Ramtha' speak all by herself, and that she has no contact with disembodied entities from the Pleistocene Ice Age." He goes on to write a list of questions that Ramtha's answers to would help us determine whether he is actually a disembodied entity from the paleolithic times (such as "What were the indigenous languages, and social structure?", "What was their writing like?" or "How does he know that he lived 35,000 years ago?"), and ends by saying that "[i]nstead, all we are offered are banal homilies."

Knight's former husband, Jeff Knight, in an interview in 1992 with Joe Szimhart, said that Ramtha's teachings are a "farce" and that they are "just a money making business for [JZ Knight]". He also said that students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment are "involved in a very dangerous, very evil corrupt thing".

Attacks and criticism against Ramtha's teachings and Ramtha's School of Enlightenment have also been made by former students of the school. David McCarthy, a Yelm resident and former student of the school between 1989 and 1996, has accused the school of being a cult. He further claims that he was intimidated during his studies there, and he felt like mind control was being exerted by Knight and the school. He said "At one point I was running around scared I was going to get eaten by the lizard people." McCarthy became disappointed, not only with his own experience of Ramtha's teachings but also as he had cut ties from his family to become a student as they lived in a different country. This led McCarthy to form a group called "Life After Ramtha's School of Enlightenment", which questions the authenticity of Ramtha and encourages people to come out and express their experiences after their realization that the RSE is a cult. The school has also been characterized as a cult by skeptic Michael Shermer in his book Why People Believe Weird Things.

Glenn Cunningham, a former bodyguard of Knight's, in an interview with David McCarthy details the inner workings of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment and criticizes various activities (such as trademarking ideas and phrases that had been coined by other authors many years before - for example, the idea of "Blue Body", or mixing quantum physics with new age ideas, which can be found in Vera Stanley Alder's From the Mundane to the Magnificent, first published in 1979) of Knight's and aspects of Ramtha which he simply saw as Knight acting. Among the things he mentions is the fact that Ramtha mispronounces the same words that Knight mispronounces, and that Ramtha quotes the same books that Knight has read.Glenn Cunningham admits in the video interview, that he was prone to lying to students when he saw fit or thought that it may help them.

Furthermore, Ramtha's teachings as they are portrayed in the movie What the Bleep Do We Know!?, not only in the general gist of the film (which was directed and funded by students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment) but also in instances where Ramtha is interviewed on screen, have been heavily criticized by the scientific community, and skeptics, such as James Randi.

Court cases
Knight has been involved in several court disputes, some personal and others business-related. She brought a suit against a woman from Berlin named Julie Ravell for disturbing Knight's psychic state and leaving her "hanging in spiritual limbo" during the five years Ravell claimed she was also channeling Ramtha. The case was brought to the supreme court in Vienna and lasted over five years, at the end of which Austria's supreme court awarded copyright to Knight as the sole channeler of Ramtha, and Ravell was made to pay $800 in psychic damages to Knight. Another case involving copyright and trademark ownership was JZK, Inc vs. Glandon, in which Joseph Glandon was accused of distributing copyrighted teachings of Ramtha.

In Knight vs. Knight (1992–1995), Jeff Knight alleges that he lost years of his life by postponing modern medical treatment for his HIV infection, due to advice from his wife that Ramtha could heal him. The court decided against him, but he died before he could appeal the court's decision.

Knight, through JZK Inc., accused WhiteWind Weaver, a Thurston County, Washington citizen, of stealing her ideas and using her and Ramtha's teachings in her workshops. A trial began on March 10, 2008, in Thurston County Superior Court and at the end of it Knight was awarded about $10,000 after the court's decision against WhiteWind Weaver.

Knight also refused to attend court as a witness in a case involving a 15-year-old who claimed rape against two students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment. The 15-year-old girl had written a letter to Knight which mentioned that Wayne Allen Geis, her dancing and acting teacher, had engaged in sexual intercourse with her from 1995 to 1997. The illicit activities had also involved Ruth Beverly Martin. They had apparently told the girl that sexual intercourse would help her to relax and improve her acting ability. Knight invited the girl to a retreat at the school in November 1999. In the retreat, Ramtha questioned the girl, her father, Geis and Martin. This inquiry took place on stage in front of an audience of over 800 people for about an hour. Geis and Martin confessed to having molested the girl, and the school contacted authorities. Charged with 10 counts of first-degree sexual misconduct with a minor, Geis and Martin pleaded not guilty and the case went to trial. Prosecutors were reluctant to have Knight appear in court due to the "circus atmosphere" that would have been created. Knight herself claimed that she had been in a trance and did not remember anything of what was said in the retreat inquiry.

Wikipedia Sourced (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Z._Knight#Video_recordings)

[turiya]

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Chris Thomas wrote:
(http://blog.cygnusreview.com/2010/11/the-realm-of-the-faerie/)
As adults, we exist in a world where realities become hidden and our beliefs, no matter how false, become realities.

We have scientists who ‘know’ how the Universe came into being. We have archaeologists who ‘know’ how life began and developed into human beings. We have doctors who ‘know’ how the body works.

As we ‘wake up’, we ‘know’ that these versions of reality are not exactly correct. We begin to open our minds to different realities – and the physical world of the scientists becomes less and less compatible with our inner knowledge.

So how do we recapture that innocence?

Chris ThomasInnocence is not something to be achieved.
It is not something to be learned.
It is not something like a talent - painting, music, poetry, sculpture.
It is not like those things.

It is more like breathing, something you are born with.


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Innocence is everybody’s nature.
It is intrinsic to one’s own nature.
Nobody is born other than innocent.

How can one be born other than innocent?
Birth means you entered the world as a tabula rasa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabula_rasa), nothing is written on you. You have only future, no past. That is the meaning of innocence.

So, really, innocence is never lost.
But rather, it only gets covered over.
It gets covered over by the knowledge that is received from the world outside of one’s own being.
Innocence remains there within... Hidden, but still there.

So, innocence is never lost.
But YOU get lost... by the taking in & accepting outside knowledge as truth.

By becoming convinced it is real, by believing it is true knowledge.
One becomes lost.
Because this outside knowledge gives one the sense of knowing - a false sense of knowing... one feels to have become knowledgeable.

And with that false knowing, the ‘awe’ & the ‘wonder’ that one comes into the world with becomes less & less accessible. Hence, innocence becomes buried under a mountain of information… covered over by layers upon layers of learned & borrowed knowledge.

One becomes identified with that knowledge. Becomes afraid to let go of it.
One becomes so much identified with that which one has been taken in over a lifetime of living in the outside world – name, numbers, facts… bank accounts, professions, possessions, car, house – all is accumulated, stored within body/mind.

The Joy of Living Dangerously (https://books.google.com/books?id=Wt-tvDQ2HS0C&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=%22Innocence+is+not+something+to+be+achieved.+It+is+not+something+to+be+learned.+It+is+not+someth ing+like+a+talent%22&source=bl&ots=RmNIk5nSkp&sig=skpM9LiI8-SRI3KNKaMsPgB_yzo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT0vO7qK_VAhXPQD4KHcV9A9AQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=%22Innocence%20is%20not%20something%20to%20be%20achieved.%20It%20is%20not%20something%20to%20be%20 learned.%20It%20is%20not%20something%20like%20a%20talent%22&f=false)




How do we recapture that innocence?


Easy to say, but harder to do...
Drop all that knowledge, that which is borrowed from others, taken from books, learned in schools, universities, from teachers, from parents, from wherever…
If you drop all that has been given by others, you will have a totally different quality to your being – that quality is innocence.

Surely, some will say it is not possible. To live in the outside world would be near impossible, one has to survive...

Yes, the knowledge attained from the outside world, certainly will help one succeed in the outside world. But all the success of the world means nothing compared to the failure that finally you are going to face, because ultimately only your inner self remains with you.

Drop knowledge & all is lost - your glory, your power, your name, your fame – all start disappearing like shadows. At the end, only that remains which you had brought in the very beginning.

You can take from this world only that which you have brought into it - innocence.

Dang Dang Doko Dang: The Sound of the Empty Drum (https://books.google.com/books?id=UJF1CAAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=If+you+drop+all+that+has+been+given+by+others,+you+will+have+a+totally+different+quality+to+your+ being+%E2%80%93+that+quality+is+innocence.&source=bl&ots=0ok7yWC81A&sig=YTLbuCN1Mfijd_gYu2iTCE13TaQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmtp_2qa_VAhUGVT4KHcVWBTkQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=If%20you%20drop%20all%20that%20has%20been%20given%20by%20others%2C%20you%20will%20have%20a%20total ly%20different%20quality%20to%20your%20being%20%E2%80%93%20that%20quality%20is%20innocence.&f=false)

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[Spiral]

I have experienced lights in the sky that respond to my thoughts, using Steven Greer's method of conscious contact. They respond to my sending love to them in the universe. Another form, who say they are a persons guide, speaks through them and has identified themselves as being discarnate beings who once lived in Atlantis and provided information to the person they spoke through for her spiritual growth, as she had once lived there too. Another "guide" who was of a different persuasion, you could feel the different energy, was the 'guide" of that person, claiming to be an ET in a craft. I felt this one was lying. He was after all talking through a human. All were oddly non physical and I wanted to know why. The Interdimensional Hypothesis answers this question, and I am currently reading a new book by John DeSouza called, The Extradimensionals. It describes the whole set up the way it is most likely to be and it all makes sense. I am half way through and it is mind blowing.

That is very classic behaviour by these beings / entities, they love to push the ET meme, but if they really were then why would they bother with "channellers" and all the other new age / spiritualist type belief stuff ?

If they are interested in you then displays will happen, and they can be a lot more that what Greer gets too, but you have to ask "why ?" :sherlock:

John Keel has some very interesting insights in his book "The Eighth Tower" about all this if you read books ( a lot of people don't these days !).

[turiya]

I have experienced lights in the sky that respond to my thoughts, using Steven Greer's method of conscious contact. They respond to my sending love to them in the universe. Another form, who say they are a persons guide, speaks through them and has identified themselves as being discarnate beings who once lived in Atlantis and provided information to the person they spoke through for her spiritual growth, as she had once lived there too. Another "guide" who was of a different persuasion, you could feel the different energy, was the 'guide" of that person, claiming to be an ET in a craft. I felt this one was lying. He was after all talking through a human. All were oddly non physical and I wanted to know why. The Interdimensional Hypothesis answers this question, and I am currently reading a new book by John DeSouza called, The Extradimensionals. It describes the whole set up the way it is most likely to be and it all makes sense. I am half way through and it is mind blowing.

That is very classic behaviour by these beings / entities, they love to push the ET meme, but if they really were then why would they bother with "channellers" and all the other new age / spiritualist type belief stuff ?

If they are interested in you then displays will happen, and they can be a lot more that what Greer gets too, but you have to ask "why ?" :sherlock:

John Keel has some very interesting insights in his book "The Eighth Tower" about all this if you read books ( a lot of people don't these days !).



Quite the Quandary
for Planet Earth

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Earth - Host to the Human Experiment



One thing I would like to interject... And, this has to do with the Universal Law that this particular Universe is based on. And that is: the law of 'Freeom of Choice', meaning... Everyone has the freedom to choose how they wish to live their lives, as long as that choice does not interfere with anybody else's freedom of choice in how they have chosen to live their lives.

Earth, acting as the honorable host that She is, has provided humanity with a physical planetary construct that allows her guests to participate in this 'Human' experiment. In other words, Earth is providing the physical setting for certain souls to experience a physcial life within a physical human form... to learn about what it means to be human... and to grow from it. In essence, one can view all human beings as children & Earth as their 'mother.'

In understanding what a mother's role is to her children, it can be easily understood that a mother provides protection for her children. Hence, Earth also protects Her human children from outside influences that may have their own agendas that they are attempting to reach. In this way, Earth will not allow certain entities to have access to the planet. They are viewed as unwanted, univited guests. As there are certain entities that have their own desires to possess planet Earth for themselves. This planet can be considered quite the 'jewel' of a planet, as there is no other planet with such an abundance of life forms that exists anywhere else within this Universe.

This would, of course, fly in the face of Steven Greer's notion that ALL ETs are benevolent, who only want to come close to their human family members.

The point that I am getting to, is that the Earth, in her attempts to play Her proper role as host for the Human Experiment to take place, it becomes quite a quandary for Her when a certain number of these ETs are posing as benevolent, higher spiritual, masters of wisdom - channeling wonderful things to certain 'selected' human receivers of messages. They may even appear to be great healers to those that suffer from certain human discomforts.

So, when a certain percentage of Earth population becomes fooled into believing that they are one of the 'chosen few', selected by so-called 'visitors from the higher realms', they in essence become quite useful tools - i.e. unknowingly acting as agents that work for entities that do not have humanities' best interests in mind.

In other words, Earth also abides by this Universal Law - Freedom of Choice. So, if a certain percentage of Earth humans have been enticed into believing that these particular channeling entities are here to help humanity, and continue to invite these unwanted visitors to be here, Earth cannot, and will not, interfere with so many human beings that desire these malevolent entities - the Messengers of Deception - from being here on the planet. Unknowingly & unconsciously, Human Beings are preventing the Earth from providing for Her proper protection for Her children.

Be careful what you wish for, because you may open the door to a Pandora's box, of sorts.

[Spiral]

I have experienced lights in the sky that respond to my thoughts, using Steven Greer's method of conscious contact. They respond to my sending love to them in the universe. Another form, who say they are a persons guide, speaks through them and has identified themselves as being discarnate beings who once lived in Atlantis and provided information to the person they spoke through for her spiritual growth, as she had once lived there too. Another "guide" who was of a different persuasion, you could feel the different energy, was the 'guide" of that person, claiming to be an ET in a craft. I felt this one was lying. He was after all talking through a human. All were oddly non physical and I wanted to know why. The Interdimensional Hypothesis answers this question, and I am currently reading a new book by John DeSouza called, The Extradimensionals. It describes the whole set up the way it is most likely to be and it all makes sense. I am half way through and it is mind blowing.

That is very classic behaviour by these beings / entities, they love to push the ET meme, but if they really were then why would they bother with "channellers" and all the other new age / spiritualist type belief stuff ?

If they are interested in you then displays will happen, and they can be a lot more that what Greer gets too, but you have to ask "why ?" :sherlock:

John Keel has some very interesting insights in his book "The Eighth Tower" about all this if you read books ( a lot of people don't these days !).



Quite the Quandary
for Planet Earth

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Earth - Host to the Human Experiment



One thing I would like to interject... And, this has to do with the Universal Law that this particular Universe is based on. And that is: the law of 'Freeom of Choice', meaning... Everyone has the freedom to choose how they wish to live their lives, as long as that choice does not interfere with anybody else's freedom of choice in how they have chosen to live their lives.

Earth, acting as the honorable host that She is, has provided humanity with a physical planetary construct that allows her guests to participate in this 'Human' experiment. In other words, Earth is providing the physical setting for certain souls to experience a physcial life within a physical human form... to learn about what it means to be human... and to grow from it. In essence, one can view all human beings as children & Earth as their 'mother.'

In understanding what a mother's role is to her children, it can be easily understood that a mother provides protection for her children. Hence, Earth also protects Her human children from outside influences that may have their own agendas that they are attempting to reach. In this way, Earth will not allow certain entities to have access to the planet. They are viewed as unwanted, univited guests. As there are certain entities that have their own desires to possess planet Earth for themselves. This planet can be considered quite the 'jewel' of a planet, as there is no other planet with such an abundance of life forms that exists anywhere else within this Universe.

This would, of course, fly in the face of Steven Greer's notion that ALL ETs are benevolent, who only want to come close to their human family members.

The point that I am getting to, is that the Earth, in her attempts to play Her proper role as host for the Human Experiment to take place, it becomes quite a quandary for Her when a certain number of these ETs are posing as benevolent, higher spiritual, masters of wisdom - channeling wonderful things to certain 'selected' human receivers of messages. They may even appear to be great healers to those that suffer from certain human discomforts.

So, when a certain percentage of Earth population becomes fooled into believing that they are one of the 'chosen few', selected by so-called 'visitors from the higher realms', they in essence become quite useful tools - i.e. unknowingly acting as agents that work for entities that do not have humanities' best interests in mind.

In other words, Earth also abides by this Universal Law - Freedom of Choice. So, if a certain percentage of Earth humans have been enticed into believing that these particular channeling entities are here to help humanity, and continue to invite these unwanted visitors to be here, Earth cannot, and will not, interfere with so many human beings that desire these malevolent entities - the Messengers of Deception - from being here on the planet. Unknowingly & unconsciously, Human Beings are preventing the Earth from providing for Her proper protection for Her children.

Be careful what you wish for, because you may open the door to a Pandora's box, of sorts.


I don't agree with that view anymore than I do with Greer.

It sounds like a new age gaiaist twist to control the narrative tbh, for starters I do not think these beings are "aliens", they are not from another planet at all, they are part of this fallen realm which is why their form morphs to fit our concepts, like how they were Martians & Venusians until we discovered there is next to no air on Mars & Venus is way too hot & inhospitable to support life.

If anyone has really "called them in" it's the US government with the Greada Treaty they made (pact with the devil) which allows for abductions & mutilations etc in exchange for tech (smartphones & so on).

If this rock is my mother she is about as much use as a crack w***e, nice scenery & plants & stuff, but overseeing all powerful goddess she ain't.

[turiya]

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_______Jacques Vallee:_______


"Why is it, I wondered, that the “occupants” of UFOs behave so much like the denizens of fairy tales and the elves of ancient folklore?."-- Messengers of Deception, Foreword (Page 6)



The realm of the faerie (http://blog.cygnusreview.com/2010/11/the-realm-of-the-faerie/)

by Chris Thomas
18 November, 2010

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As we progress through our change of understanding – our increase in levels of consciousness – there is a growing recognition of the levels at which our Earth functions in relation to human existence. That is why many people are now beginning to re-awaken to the reality of the Faerie, which are a construct, a projection, of the Earth’s own consciousness.

According to my researches in the Akashic, there are fifty-nine ‘varieties’ of Faerie, which have been created by the Earth herself to look after all of the Earth’s plants, trees and other forms of life. Each form of Faerie has its own role to play and carries out its duties with immense joy and love.


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As the Faerie are part of the Earth’s own consciousness, they cannot travel outside the Earth’s atmosphere. The same applies to other planets that have developed their own form of the Faerie; it is not possible for them to leave their home worlds and travel to Earth.

Beings such as Griffins and Unicorns are also part of the Faerie realms and therefore are also brought into being by the Earth. Griffins act as messengers between branches of the Faerie realms, or between the Faerie and humans.


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If you’ve ever seen a real Unicorn you’ll know they are not fluffy little ponies with a bump on their foreheads! They are magnificent beings the size of a thoroughbred Arab horse, with a temperament to match, and their horns are at least one metre long. Unicorns can also act as messengers.

Dragons are a representation of the soul energy of the Earth herself, although this energy can take flight and become the dragons of legend.


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Another representation of the Earth’s own energies is the Green Man. He represents an aspect of male energies to complement the female, mother, Earth. Unfortunately, both the dragon and Green Man images have become ‘demonised’ by popular belief, the Green Man having been turned into ‘the devil’ and the dragon into the serpent of the Garden of Eden. Sadly, these ideas have distorted our views of, and beliefs about, the Earth.


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As we continue our climb back to full consciousness, many are beginning to realise that our only chance of completing our work is to turn back to Mother Earth and her nurture. Technology will never find lasting answers to the problems its use has created. All the answers we will ever need are to be found in the abundance the Earth has provided and within our own locked-away knowledge of how to use that abundance wisely.

This locked-away knowledge is often more evident to children than it is to adults. To talk of the Faerie, for instance, in adult terms, is at best considered taboo. But if you are a child, the subject is one of awe and recognition. As children we see the world through innocent eyes - eyes that have not been sullied by cynicism and paying bills. In other words, children see the world in which we live with a clarity of being that we adults, in an attempt to ‘grow up’, leave behind. How can you sell double glazing when you believe that you have Faeries ‘at the bottom of your garden’?


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As adults, we exist in a world where realities become hidden and our beliefs, no matter how false, become realities.

The more we have moved down our route to materialism and extreme consumerism, the further away we have moved from the real reasons for human existence and the further we have removed ourselves from the natural rhythms of the planet that supports us. The Earth is all we have, and once we have depleted her resources, there will be no more and we will cease to exist on Earth.

The Earth exists to allow the possibilities of being human to be explored. In order to achieve that goal, our Mother Earth has created beings who can assist us in our aims. These include the Faerie. At the risk of being taken away by ‘men in white coats’, I think it is time for all those who know the Faerie realms exist to come to the fore.

We have scientists who ‘know’ how the Universe came into being. We have archaeologists who ‘know’ how life began and developed into human beings. We have doctors who ‘know’ how the body works.

As we ‘wake up’, we ‘know’ that these versions of reality are not exactly correct. We begin to open our minds to different realities – and the physical world of the scientists becomes less and less compatible with our inner knowledge.

I am not proposing a Faerie ‘revolution’, as the Faerie do not see our world in those terms. However, try to see the world in a new light. Try to regain your childhood innocence. We are not a part of the Faerie; the Faerie exist in their own right and it is not our place to interfere, only to interact, if we have the will and the innocence to do so.

So how do we recapture that innocence?

It is not easy. Many have tried and most have given up in frustration. There is no easy answer. The mechanistic world that humans have created is totally opposed to that of the Faerie. But, as we begin to understand the changes we are undertaking, we begin to see our connectedness to the whole. Each of us is part of a collective existence and, as we progressively download our higher selves into our physical selves, we begin to realise that the lives we have become accustomed to living exclude a vast portion of what is really there – including the Faerie realm in all its magic and wonder.


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In so many respects the answer lies in our understanding of the female. Our Earth is female. It is the re-claiming of the feminine in ourselves, and in our lives and relationships, that can bring our current and future existence back into balance.

As a man, it is not an easy choice. Our Earth is female and in order to create balance we have needed a male response. However, the balance has tipped too far and the Faerie, as an aspect of Mother Earth, have become pushed to the extremities.

It is time to regain balance. The Earth is as welcoming as she ever was. The Faerie are as prepared to put up with our prevarication as they ever were. Now is our time – human time. No other race or being has the right to choose what we become. We have reached a point in time where our conscious choice is needed. And that choice should be: to dance with the Faerie, to stop our rape of the planet, and to finish what we originally set out to do, which is to bring our full soul consciousness into our human existence, here on Earth. And the Faerie (Mother Earth) will be happy to go on nurturing us as we continue on our paths to this destination, if only we let them.

We really are that strong, and the Faerie are there to remind us that our greatest strength lies in embracing our original innocence. By letting go of everything that covers it, we arrive at a point where no external force can deflect us from our goal.

Remember, the Earth has taken on the role of nurturing human life. We need to repay her hard work and become, once again, who we truly are.

Source (http://blog.cygnusreview.com/2010/11/the-realm-of-the-faerie/)

[turiya]

Excerpt from a John B. Wells interview with Jay Weidner Part1....
gets into the Maria mummy that was discovered in Peru...


Jay Weidner: What Part of the "Great
Alien Deception" is Being Played Out?
(Published on July 31, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZnY5Cc7SE

[turiya]

CATTLE MUTILATIONS







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_____Jacques Vallee:_____

"I have tried to identify some of the manipulators and to highlight their activities., which range from apparently harmless hoaxes, such as the false professor George Adamski' meeting with Venusian spacemen to bloody expeditions that have littered the American landscape with the carcasses of mutilated animals. --Jacques Vallee"-- Messengers of Deception

_______________________________

Mutilations specifically start @ 18:45....
TRANSCRIPTION Starts @41:30
Cross-posted on another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99009-The-Mantis-Alien--Insectalin--Hybridization-Agenda&p=1170211&viewfull=1#post1170211)...





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__Linda Moulton Howe:__

@41:40 "Between 2002-2013, in Argentina alone - its been going on in many parts of the world - but, in Argentina alone, the count [animal mutilations] now is estimated to be somewhere around 4,500 animals. In that decade, in Argentina - which matches what happenened in Canada & the United States in the 70's."

Whitley Streiber: How interesting. So, its moving around. Its like they work one area, then they move on and work another...

Let's talk a little bit about what this is... Because, what we can see of it is... material is being taken that is full of stem cells & sexual material. Another thing is that cattle are very close to human beings in their DNA make-up - surprising so...

Linda Moulton Howe: Only 4% difference.

Whitley Streiber: Now, if you were skilled, and had a little DNA & a lot from these animals, you might be able to build yourself a body that would work in our environment. And look pretty convincingly human - at least, if no one checked out its DNA.

Linda Moulton Howe: Or would look like the Gray androids....

I have talked with people in the human abduction syndrome long ago - 20 some years ago, who told me that the little grays with the big black eyes were constructed biological genetically engineered androids - is correct, because they're biological, but they are doing robotic work => programmed <= like a computer for another intelligence. And that makes a great deal of sense to me, if you look back over the last 40-50 years, and you add to it this extremely important data point.

I did an interview about 5 years ago with a son of a man, his father, who had worked Wright-Patterson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright-Patterson_Air_Force_Base) in 1947 in their medical unit. And that father was ordered by a general - at 2 o'clock in the morning, he was called at home, ordered to come in as soon as possible, and met two other surgeons. And, they were to an autopsy. The general did not say 'this is an extraterrestrial'. The general told the father,

"I want you to use this clip board." And handed it to him, with paper. And, "I want you to make a running stream of everything that you observe while the other two surgeons are doing this autopsy. This is extremely important."The father stood on the wall opposite the two surgeons who first started arguing about whether they would first to a 'T' or a 'Y' cut to begin the autopsy - on clearly a non human - on their surgical table.

And, the first note that was made by the father was that 'when they finally decided & they brought the scalpel to the body of this extraterrestrial, and they began dragging the knife to make this cut, the knife wouldn't cut through anything... And, the knife actually hung up. The surgeon said, and the father noted down... "This is not tissue we are dealing with, here. This is some kind of fabric.

And the father told the son, who I did this amazing interview with - before the father died - the father had told the near the end of his life, that he was convinced, and so were his superiors, that this wasn't a leotard... because they ended up getting into the body... that the surface of this particular type [of being] was some sort of inorganic fabric on an organic being that they classified as an 'Android.'

That is, to me, one of the most important lens through which to look at this menagerie of what people call "the Grays."

SOURCE: https://youtu.be/DoxXufJpNWQ?t=41m31s

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Dreamland: After A 30 Year Silence, A Sheriff Tells
The Truth About Cattle Mutilations 9-27-2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoxXufJpNWQ



Published on Nov 16, 2013

Linda Moulton Howe has made a breakthrough—she has finally, after more than thirty years of trying, gotten one of the Montana sheriffs most involved in the cattle mutilation investigations to tell the truth about what he saw and how he understands it. He begins by telling about being invited to Malmstrom Air Force Base to observe the radar track of an object that was appearing during the time that the mutilations were taking place—and finding himself asked to leave the radar room by mysterious individuals in black uniforms who were from off-base, much to the embarrassment of the colonel who invited him.

His story continues with his telling of what was found during the years of mutilation investigations that took place in Montana, and his thoughts about what it all might have meant.
_______________________________




New Mexico Cop Says Military
Responsible for Cattle Mutilations
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alejandro-rojas/cattle-mutiliations_b_932711.html)By Alejandro Rojas
Updated Oct 22, 2011

Gabe Valdez was a former New Mexico state patrol officer in the Dulce, New Mexico area. During his tenure, beginning in the 1970’s, he was tasked with investigating mysterious cattle mutilations. The area suffered many cases of cattle found mutilated without blood, organs that appeared carefully removed and cuts in the skin that were so precise they were believed to be made by lasers. After years of research Valdez concluded that a clandestine government agency was responsible and that they used secret underground bases in the Dulce area for their experiments.



The first publicized case of a strange cattle mutilation was outside of Alamosa, Colorado in 1967, only 100 miles or so northeast of Dulce. An appaloosa horse was found with the head and neck skinned and defleshed. The bones where white and clean, and there was a lack of blood in the area. The lacerations were cauterized as if a laser scalpel were used according to a pathologist out of Denver. No satisfactory explanation has ever been found as to how or why this animal was killed.



Since then hundreds of cattle mutilations have been discovered. The ranch with the largest number of mysterious animals deaths belongs to the Gomez family, near Dulce, the area Valdez was assigned to. Unlike the rancher I spoke with, Valdez told me that he had never seen anything that had lead him to believe there were extraterrestrials in New Mexico. Instead he says he had found military gear such as gas masks and glow sticks around the carcasses of mutilated cattle.

Source: Alejandro Rojas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alejandro-rojas/cattle-mutiliations_b_932711.html)


Gabe Valdez Talk About Dulce,
New Mexico and Cattle Mutilations
(Published on Jul 1, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iWhRMH_NCg

[turiya]

Richard Dolan's Australian
UFO Phenomenon Presentation
(Published on Jan 30, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTzFVOVioR4
Published on Jan 30, 2017

This is Richard Dolan's (USA) first presentation in Australia on UFOs at Ryde Eastwood Leagues Club, NSW on the 5 November 2016.

Richard is a UFO researcher, historian and author. He has been featured on Ancient Aliens, Hangar One, and as a guest, on Coast to Coast (USA).

UFOs are a global reality affecting nations and people everywhere. Richard presents a geopolitical analysis of the UFO phenomenon including the international dimensions of the cover-up. Particularly the role of the United States and its relationships to key allies (such as the EU), as well as to Russia and China.

He discusses the true structure of power behind the scenes (as best as we can currently understand it), and will attempt to look into how the UFO cover-up may develop, or end.

Topics covered are, government cover-up, false-flag events, breakaway civilisations, life after UFO disclosure and extra-terrestrial abductions.

Richard Dolan’s website: www.richarddolanpress.com


________________________________


Dark Journalist: Richard Dolan:
UFOs & The Breakaway Civilization
(Published on Sep 19, 2013)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CGG5gjsUNY

________________________________

Dark Journalist & Richard Dolan: Strange UFO
Encounters & Intelligence Connections
(Published on Oct 20, 2013)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0wXWpbLrl0

[turiya]

Richard Dolan Knowledge of
Extraterrestrials [FULL VIDEO] (https://youtu.be/l12JtcUDZaw?t=46m48s)
(Published on Jun 13, 2016)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l12JtcUDZaw/hqdefault.jpg
VIDEO (https://youtu.be/l12JtcUDZaw?t=46m48s)

_________Relevant Article_________




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by Catherine Austin Fitts
23 September 2002
from Scoop (http://www.scoop.co.nz/) Website




"Engrave this upon my heart: There isn't anyone you couldn't love once you've heard their story."
Mary Lou Kownacki


"What is relevant is what solves the problem. If we had thought through real relevancies, we would be on Sirius by now."
Peter Medewar


It is time to deal with the 64 dollar question - the biggest crazy aunt in the living room.


The questions that need to be raised in any effort to find the truth about a significant event related to power and money in the US - and answered if we are to ever find the truth of how our world works - are:




WHAT HAS BEEN THE SIZE OF THE U. S. BLACK BUDGET OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS?

WHAT ARE THE SOURCES AND USES OF FUNDS IN THE BLACK BUDGET?

WHO GOVERNS AND MANAGES THE BLACK BUDGET AND OPERATIONS?

WHY HAVE SO MANY DECENT PEOPLE SUPPORTED AN ILLEGAL BLACK BUDGET OPERATION OF SUCH MAGNITUDE FOR SO LONG?

IS THE WAR ON TERRORISM MOVING THE BLACK BUDGET ON BUDGET?


I do not know the answer to these questions. What I do know is that asking these questions brings up a whole pile of challenging uncertainty.


(For background on my experience dealing with black budget/slush fund operations at FHA and Ginnie Mae at the Department of Housing and Urban Development - HUD - Justice, Treasury and the New York Federal Reserve Bank, see my article, "The Myth of the Rule of Law (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0208/S00055.htm).")


When dealing with challenging uncertainty, I find that many researchers simply delete the existence of such uncertainty from their reality. That is a big mistake - again pretending that we do not have a very big crazy aunt sitting in the living room.


George Orwell once said that,


"Omission is the greatest lie."

Hence, our crazy aunt has to be dealt with.


If you listen to the Ferdinand video/audio depositions (http://www.blackopradio.com/inc_archives2002.html) in the Carone/Tyree lawsuit, what you will hear is something I have heard many times.


Carone Ferdinand gives his family the sense of all of the organized crime operations by CIA, Army and Mafia through the 1970's as legitimate for national security purposes that then got out of hand and turned bad in the 1980's.


That is, what started out as justifiable got out of hand.


This begs the question,


Why Were Such Activities Considered Justifiable?

The way to deal with uncertainty is with scenario design and probability - i.e. to create a framework of the possible explanations with your best estimate of the plausible scenarios and the probability (all adding up to 100%) of each one being true based on intuition.


Maintaining such a framework allows data collection on key variables and assumptions and an evolution to occur that can enlighten - even determine - concrete questions and answers over time.


So, let me tell a story, give you my framework that I use to handle the fact that I do not have the answers and invite your framework.


I am not looking to hear only what is wrong with my framework. I am looking to improve mine or find a better one. Or better inform my estimate of the probabilities that this one or that one is true. Hence, I invite you to put forward your framework for managing this uncertainty. If we had the truth of the issue I am going to introduce, I dare say we could get to the bottom of 9-11 faster.


In 1998, I was approached by John Peterson, head of the Arlington Institute, a small high quality military think tank in Washington, DC. I had gotten to know John through Global Business Network and had been impressed by his intelligence, effectiveness and compassion. John asked me to help him with a high level strategic plan Arlington was planning to undertake for the Undersecretary of the Navy.


At the time I was the target of an intense smear campaign that would lead the normal person to assume that I would be in jail shortly or worse. John explained that the Navy understood that it was all politics - they did not care.


I met with a group of high level people in the military in the process - including the Undersecretary. According to John, the purpose of the plan - discussed in front of several military or retired military officers and former government officials - was to help the Navy adjust their operations for a world in which it was commonly known that aliens exist and live among us.


When John explained this purpose to me, I explained that I did not know that aliens existed and lived among us (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_aliensamongus.htm). John asked me if I would like to meet some aliens. For the only time in my life, I declined an opportunity to learn about something important.


I was concerned that my efforts with Arlington could boomerang and be connected with the smear campaign and the effects that I was managing. I regret that decision. At John's suggestion I started to read books on the topic and read about 25 books over the next year on the alien question (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_18.htm), the black budget (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_blackbudget.htm), and alien technology (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_extraterrestrialtech.htm).


I had to drop from the project due to the need to attend to litigation and the physical harassment and surveillance of me and some of the people helping me.


This process - which turned out to be incredibly time consuming - I now believe was connected with the black budget/slush fund activities connected with FHA and Ginnie Mae at HUD. (See, "The Myth of the Rule of Law") John then asked me if I would join the board of the Arlington Institute.


When I attended one of my first meetings, I joined in discussion with about 10 people which included James Woolsey, former head of the CIA in the Clinton Administration, Napier Collyns, founder of Global Business Network and former senior Shell executive, Joe Firmage, and other members of the Arlington board.


The main topic of discussion was whether or not the major project for the coming year should be a white paper on how to help the American people adjust to aliens existing and living among us.


I said nothing - just listened. Not that long after, I dropped from the board due to the continued demands related to litigation with the Department of Justice and their informant.


To cut a series of additional long stories short, when I talk with my few sources from the military and intelligence community, I hear the same themes:




Aliens exist and live among us;

In part for this reason as well the accumulated investment over the last 50 years, the technology we have access to through the black budget is far more advanced than is commonly understood;

The black budget/slush fund construct was created to deal with this issue, which is why reasonable people thought selling drugs to the children who were US citizens was the better of several options - including the option of telling the American public the truth and funding the expenses on budget.


As a result of these experiences, here is my framework for dealing with this very large pile of uncertainty.


ONE OF THE THREE FOLLOWING POSSIBLE SCENARIOS MUST BE TRUE




SCENARIO #1. ENTRE NOUS:

The alien question is the single largest and most expensive disinformation campaign in the history of our race.


A portion of the human race has advanced technologically so far beyond the rest of us - and is attributing various things to aliens as a way of managing their resulting risk - that we have become as aliens to each other.


To fully understand this scenario, we need to try to understand the use of individual mind control such as criminal hypnosis to effect financial and government fraud and corruption and the truth, whatever it is, of wider subliminal programming and brainwashing. These are slippery subjects for most people to deal with unless they have the training and ability to do so.


% PROBABILITY SCENARIO #1 IS TRUE ______ (You fill in)




SCENARIO #2 - HOLY COW!:

Aliens exist and live among us. Planet earth is subject to the politics, economics and laws and/or lawlessness of a larger system or systems.


The transfer of advanced technology into a society that has not evolved governance and legal systems to manage a world with the presence of such technology and the influence of such other system(s) helps to explain current events.


To fully understand this scenario, we must also try to understand the use of individual mind control (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_mindcon.htm) such as criminal hypnosis to effect financial and government fraud and corruption and the truth, whatever it is, of wide subliminal programming and brainwashing.


Again, these are slippery subjects for most people to deal with unless they have the training and ability to do so.


% PROBABILITY SCENARIO #2 IS TRUE ______ (You fill in)




SCENARIO #3 - MUDDLED: Some combination of (1) and (2) above.

% PROBABILITY SCENARIO #3 IS TRUE ______ (You fill in)


TOTAL % PROBABILITY OF SCENARIOS #1, 2 & 3 BEING TRUE 100%


Could my experiences with Arlington and the Navy or any subsequent contacts fit with a disinformation scenario? Absolutely.


I have no evidence to support any scenario. The only evidence I believe I have is my experience dealing with tremendous amounts of money siphoned off over the years, whether through Iran-Contra S&L, HUD and BCCI fraud, or the latest round of money missing from the federal government in the last five years.


This is all documented in the articles below (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0209/S00126.htm#author). This cash flow and the operations and syndicates it appears to fund are important to what drives the governance and allocation of resources in this country and around the globe.


There is a reason that power and money are centralizing and the rich are getting richer. I want to know what it is.


Whichever scenario is true - and I do not know which one is - if we had the truth it will help us grapple with 9-11 (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_911.htm) and the War on Terrorism (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_waronterror.htm). It would also help us better understand all the efforts to press for centralization of economic and political power that have grown as the black budget has grown since WWII. The reality is the possibilities of why 9-11 occurred and how it was operationalized are impacted by the facts of the US black budget and the advanced technology it has developed.


Why would sane and even decent people think it was the best option for the good of the whole? We must sit in the shoes of the person or people who gave the order - whoever they may be and wherever they may be - and understand how their power and money worked.


Why would a group with the operational and financial capacity to effect a 9-11 operation give the green light to plan 9-11, finance 9-11, do 9-11, stand down so 9-11 could happen, take advantage of 9-11 or to make sure the truth was not illuminated? My experience in Washington and Wall Street would indicate that there is a reasonable chance that all these various people and many in the food chain Are Not Bad Or Irrational People.


That is, we have a better chance of finding the truth if for purposes of our explorations we assume that the people involved in all these roles were people like you and me - just with a different map of certain parts of the world and dealing with a variety of stress and pressures trying to build cooperation or achieve goals that we do not understand.


Watching the federal government contract announcements and without benefit of seeing the full budget and assuming The Disclosure Project (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_disclosure_project.htm) allegations regarding the estimates of the black budget size, if I had to guess today my guess would be that 9-11 has been highly successful in permitting the black budget to be moved on budget, partly in the normal budget and partly in the budget that is only disclosed to the Congressional intelligence committees.


The solution to continued growth and funding of the black budget may have been to steal as much money and assets as possible from the federal budget and then to move the black budget on budget when control of media, Congress, Justice and Securities & Exchange Commission ensured that the legal budget was non-transparent, controlled by private government contractors and could not be harmed or fiddled with by Congress.

(See various stories (http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0207/S00031.htm#a) on the disappearance of over $3.3 trillion from the federal government from fiscal 1998-2001)


Grossly oversimplified, by the end of the 2004 fiscal year, covert operations and the black budget may be fully legal, run and controlled by corporations and banks without interference from knowledgeable career civil service, taxpayer funded, and non-transparent.


Why do I say all of this?


We do not have time to pay attention to people who use smears like "conspiracy theorist" to waste our time. Money, budgets, finance... these are all facts. If something does not work, and it continues to not work, there is a reason.


Systems have a logic. They have a rationale. Money helps explain and illuminate that rationale. Anyone who would smear a serious researcher or writer for trying to understand where a great deal of money is disappearing to as a "conspiracy theorist" is someone who would never be taken seriously or associated with in the circles in which I travel.


The exception is if the person doing the smearing is a professional being paid to smear those who have the scent of "the real deal" - Cointelpro or related public relations. The number of people paid to do such things are many and growing.


9-11 was an operation that was implemented by a conspiracy (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_911.htm). To get to the bottom of what happened and why one must develop and use conspiracy theories to research in what can only be described as a conspiracy reality.


We know in regards to 9-11 one of two scenarios must be true - some portion of the US military and intelligence are,




complicit and/or

guilty of criminal gross negligence


We also know that the official story is not truthful. Either scenario and the reality of the official story beg the question, "why?"


This course always leads us to consider the fact that US military and intelligence have enjoyed significant expansion of their budgets and powers as a result of 9-11. We are rewarding failure. 9-11 was great for business. Lockheed Martin's stock is up over 50% in a falling stock market. The oil companies have their pipeline.


When a system does not work and continues to not work, there is something that prevents its learning.


Ultimately what we must understand that the problem is not that the system does not work and that it is not learning. The problem is that the system is controlled and operated by the most powerful forces in that system and that the system is indeed working and learning in the general direction they want it to go.


This happens in a manner that is highly organic and requires lots of planning, trial and error and factionalism that involves competition and cooperation over time in the pursuit of the system's real goals. Hence, the system is working and is learning. It is our construct that is wrong. We do not understand the system and the goals of the system.


Once we are clear that the system is working and is learning, once we stop falling back on scapegoating as a technique to explain events, we can start to understand the real system that we are a part of. This is how power and money work in reality.

The amount of money and power spent to keep the general population from understanding this - and focused on things like scapegoating which keep us from building a good map of "the real deal" or gaining the power to impact events by using our money and time as a vote in the marketplace in which the banks and corporations must thrive - is immense.


That is why I strongly encourage reading Jon Rappoport's back interviews on his Infomonster and becoming a subscriber for his ongoing interviews.


For those would like to know more, I would refer you to articles on all the money missing from the US Treasury and the manipulation of the gold markets as well as the Disclosure Project video of their event at the National Press Club (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/disclosure/esp_disclosure_project_10.htm).


As for me, I do not have the answers. I wish I did.


That is why I am so appreciative of efforts like UnAnswered Questions (http://www.unansweredquestions.org) and the effort of researchers networking and collaborating globally to illuminate, research and answer the right questions.


Let me close with the unanswered questions with which I began and which I believe are critical to our ongoing collaboration:




WHAT HAS BEEN THE SIZE OF THE U. S. BLACK BUDGET OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS?

WHAT ARE THE SOURCES AND USES OF FUNDS IN THE BLACK BUDGET?

WHO GOVERNS AND MANAGES THE BLACK BUDGET BUDGET AND OPERATIONS?

WHY HAVE SO MANY DECENT PEOPLE SUPPORTED AN ILLEGAL BLACK BUDGET OPERATION OF SUCH MAGNITUDE FOR SO LONG?

IS THE WAR ON TERRORISM MOVING THE BLACK BUDGET ON BUDGET?

SOURCE: bibliotecapleyades.net (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_blackbudget03.htm)


________Late Add________

Just slightly out of date since Trump became president... but still explains motivation of the UFO coverup by the Black Budget Deep State... Things are changing...


Exclusive Richard Dolan Lecture on
the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis [FULL VIDEO]
(Published on Jul 22, 2017)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIHS9bBQuZU
Published on Jul 22, 2017

This is a full Richard Dolan lecture that has never been on youtube before. Dolan argues that the ETH remains valid but needs to be understood in a fresh way, one that incorporates the genuine high strangeness of the UFO phenomenon. When we look objectively at the available evidence, the ETH still appears to be a strong candidate to explain much, if not all, of UFOs. But now in the 21st century, we understand our reality to be much more complex than our predecessors did in the 1950s. Richard will make a case that other beings are indeed here, and they may be from elsewhere, but the reality they represent is far beyond the reality we are accustomed to thinking about.

Richard explains how the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH) was the dominant theory among those who believed the phenomenon was real and not from our civilization. The idea was fairly simple: UFOs were “interplanetary” and belonged to beings with more advanced technology than we had. Over time, competing theories emerged to explain the obvious high strangeness that accompanied so many UFO and encounter cases, ideas such as interdimensional entities, spiritually-based beings, projections of our own mind, strange natural phenomena, psycho-social explanations, and much more. By comparison with some of these, the ETH has come to seem almost pedestrian.

[turiya]

Men In Black: Russian Documentary
With English Subtitles
(Published on Feb 14, 2013)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR014_jY7po
Published on Feb 14, 2013

Il documentario consigliato da medvedev riguardo gli alieni di cui i presidenti russi conoscono l'esistenza, purtroppo i sottotitoli sono in inglese, non tutto ciò che viene detto nel documentario è vero, e parecchie cose che vengono dette sono solo ciò che sanno i servizi segreti russi, non la verità universale nè viene detto TUTTO ciò che c'è da dire, non parlano di tutte le razze aliene che conoscono, ma solo di alcune.. per il resto ciò che vi dico è: prendete ciò che viene detto con le pinze, come se fosse una storiella, una favola per bambini e credete solo a ciò che siete pronti a credere.

Men In Black is the Documentary advised by Medvedev during an interview regarding how much the russian presidents and institutions knows about aliens living on Earth, it doesn't say all what there is to say and some things are wrong, but it's a good start. Remeber to belive only what you are ready to belive into..

[turiya]

the Mantis.... or Mantid Insectalin beings... and other Dr. John Mack abduction cases...


Touched - Encounters with Alien Life Forms
Part 1/5
(Published on Feb 6, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3eRj6iMo9Q__________________

Touched - Encounters with Alien Life Forms
Part 2/5
(Published on Feb 6, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG35NH8OK4I__________________

Touched - Encounters with Alien Life Forms
Part 3/5
(Published on Feb 6, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ity-CDqlmA4__________________

Touched - Encounters with Alien Life Forms
Part 4/5
(Published on Feb 6, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4nLRk56slU__________________

Touched - Encounters with Alien Life Forms
Part 5/5
(Published on Feb 6, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YoLpn21GSA

[Michelle Marie]

Vallee believes that our visitor's are actually just one of many manifestations of a control system. This control system can manifest as aliens, ghosts, crypto's, fairies, elves and all kinds of paranormal phenomena. UFOs and the abduction phenomenon are also part of this control system too.

This control system is cross-dimensional and has the ability to manifest in physical form too for various durations of time but essentially its main local is from other realms outside of our own.

Yes, I was wondering why the Vatican and the Jesuits are pushing the UFO thing so much. There's something fishy there...

Not to say nobody has had experiences. I hope to have one some day!

There's still something fishy about the Vatican and not just ther hats!

MM

[turiya]

Yes, the Vatican... and the recent need for NASA to be hiring a new Planetary Protection Officer... something certainly smelling fishy...



Do You Have What It Takes To Be
NASA's Next Planetary Protection Officer? (http://www.npr.org/2017/08/03/541352728/do-you-have-what-it-takes-to-be-nasa-s-next-planetary-protection-officer)
(August 3, 2017)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CiEM5zvLnrg/hqdefault.jpg
NPR AUDIO (http://www.npr.org/2017/08/03/541352728/do-you-have-what-it-takes-to-be-nasa-s-next-planetary-protection-officer)

[turiya]

Abduction Story....


Alien Abductee Elizabeth Robinson
(Published on Sep 8, 2016)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMx2Muym3Cw

[turiya]

Abduction cases...



Bedroom Encounter With 10ft Tall
Insectoid Mantis Extraterrestrial (https://youtu.be/wVXZlcjgS3c)
(Published on Apr 30, 2015)
http://ytimg.googleusercontent.com/vi/wVXZlcjgS3c/0.jpg
VIDEO (https://youtu.be/wVXZlcjgS3c)

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Alien Abductee Kellie McLean
Mantis Encounter (https://youtu.be/Dj2zWNLFNjQ)
(Published on Jan 6, 2016)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dj2zWNLFNjQ/hqdefault.jpg
VIDEO (https://youtu.be/Dj2zWNLFNjQ)

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Alien Abductee Rose Hargrove
Mantis Encounter (https://youtu.be/RCbf0JtRvlE)
(Published on Jan 7, 2016)
https://img.youtube.com/vi/RCbf0JtRvlE/hqdefault.jpg
VIDEO (https://youtu.be/RCbf0JtRvlE)

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Alien Abductee Sandy Nichols
Mantis Encounter
(Published on Sep 8, 2015)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EiUQ7ikYYU0/hqdefault.jpg
VIDEO

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Alien Abductee Linda Porter
Mantis Encounter
(Published on Mar 20, 2015)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FCHiaY6VEM

[Mister ET]

Yes, I was wondering why the Vatican and the Jesuits are pushing the UFO thing so much. There's something fishy there...
Nothing fishy there. They have paid very strict attention to the decades of messages from the ET communicating community.

Simple as that.