Space plane goes missing:

[irishspirit]

SPACE PLANE GOES MISSING: The US Air Force's X-37B space plane has gone missing. Amateur satellite watchers who routinely monitor the secret mini-shuttle failed to sight it at expected times on Oct. 7th, 9th and 10th. It's possible that the X-37B has landed. More likely, the space plane has maneuvered into a new orbit and will be recovered again in the nights ahead. Stay tuned for updates.

http://spaceweather.com/

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How in the blue moon does a space plane go missing?

[Fredkc]

It was right there, Irish...
"More likely, the space plane has maneuvered into a new orbit"

That leaves people outa the loop lookin' where it ain't.

The thing is supposed to use either Vandenberg, or Edwards as it's landing field. Both are within 100 mi. of me. If the local news mentions anything, then I'll dig up this thread and post back to it.

This would be just the kind of 'hard news' they press here would lead with, before they went to what movie star is sleeping with which, and what their chihuahua's analyst thinks about it.

We get all the juicy dirt, here.
Fred

[Swami]

Claokingdevice perhaps..........?

[Fredkc]

Hmmm.... sounds like a cross between a cloaking, and a karaoking device

[Bill Ryan]

How in the blue moon does a space plane go missing?

One answer:

It flips into its secondary drive mode and goes to Mars.

(only half in jest) :)

[Solphilos]

Of course it was that plane that went missing. :whistle:

Maybe it's not a question of where did it go, but when did it go? I guess those could be considered the same thing.
With all the oddities surrounding that craft it could be anywhere or anytime :tongue1:

[Richard]

One answer:

It flips into its secondary drive mode and goes to Mars.

(only half in jest) :)

Sorry Bill, not this craft. The X-37B is one of the world's newest and most advanced re-entry spacecraft.
It operates in low earth orbit, 100-500 miles or so above the surface at a nominal speed of about 17,500 MPH
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/ic/sis/x37b_otv/x37b_Illustation-300x375-out.jpg

[Fredkc]

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/ic/sis/x37b_otv/x37b_Illustation-300x375-out.jpg

Being the old fashioned type, I never trust a plane without propellers on it.
And this'n doesn't have windows, either!
Bad JuJu!
Fred

[Operator]

Sorry Bill, not this craft. The X-37B is one of the world's newest and most advanced re-entry spacecraft.
It operates in low earth orbit, 100-500 miles or so above the surface at a nominal speed of about 17,500 MPH
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/ic/sis/x37b_otv/x37b_Illustation-300x375-out.jpg

Ok,but isn't this just public specification ? ... This spacecraft popped up all of a sudden (could be my lack of knowledge) so perhaps it's not all THAT new ...
But if they wanted to do something sneaky wouldn't they use other technology (if they have it at all) ?

[Fredkc]

I think this critter falls in the "for public consumption secret" category, myself.

If they are really grounding the shuttles, then the paranoid military types are going to want another "pick up truck" to ferry doodads into space. This is quick'n dirty as NASA et al already have a proven model in the shuttle, and many variations thereof on the boards, the X37 being one of them. They all use similar heat shielding, glide landing, and such.

[Bill Ryan]

Sorry Bill, not this craft. The X-37B is one of the world's newest and most advanced re-entry spacecraft.
It operates in low earth orbit, 100-500 miles or so above the surface at a nominal speed of about 17,500 MPH


Not so fast! :)

See the X-33 Venture Star below: this program was 'canceled' in 2001.

Yet Kerry and I recently spoke with a researcher who personally knew an engineer who worked on the landing gear for the 'Venture Star' (presumed but not definitely known to be the X-33 - another craft may have been given the same name)...

...which he said is fully operational and travels to Mars in 33 (thirty-three) hours.

We told aerospace researcher Michael Schratt - a very grounded, smart, careful, and sober individual - and his response was WOW.

:)


http://projectavalon.net/X-33_Venture_Star.jpg

[Operator]

Not so fast! :)

See the X-33 Venture Star below: this program was 'canceled' in 2001.


Hi Bill,

Is this a manned or unmanned space craft ?

[irishspirit]

One answer:

It flips into its secondary drive mode and goes to Mars.

(only half in jest) :)

HAHA Bill,

you know, you are probably right.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill,

Is this a manned or unmanned space craft ?

Manned: it takes a whole bunch of people up there - two or three dozen.

Much more impressive - and this is getting slightly off-topic! - was Gordon Novel's report on Coast to Coast, 17 January 2010, of the nephew of a friend who had a remarkable experience in the Utah desert.

http://projectavalon.net/Gordon_Novel_Coast_to_Coast_AM_Jan_17_2010_Hour_2_extract.mp3

Just over two minutes - must listen.

Gordon tells George Knapp that his friend's nephew, an experienced hiker, was alone and 25 miles from the nearest road in the middle of nowhere.

Suddenly he saw a huge black triangular "arrowhead-shaped bird" - 600 feet x 100 feet - come down, the desert floor opened up like the deck of an aircraft carrier, the craft entered the underground base, and then the giant door closed again.

The hiker was left thinking: "What just happened...?"

The point here is the size of the thing. That's many times larger than the biggest commercial airliner and half the size of an aircraft carrier. At a rough guess it could transport 2,000 people or more.
http://projectavalon.net/Utah_black_triangle_size_comparison.gif

[Martin]

It must be a pain to clean those things ...

MfG

Martin

[Swami]

Where can I buy a ticket for a ride......?

[Richard]

This is one of the last videos Lockheed Martin released on X-33 program - right before tank failure
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/_docs/vid11099801.mpeg

Download: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/_docs/vid11099801.mpeg

[MorningSong]

Here's an article on the April 23, 2010 launch of the X-37B:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13639_3-20003260-42.html

I also found this article.... the space plane "disappeared" in August as well:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/us-militarys-top-secret-x-37b-shuttle-disappears-for-two-weeks-changes-orbit/story-e6frfro0-1225909738276

[observer]

In another Thread on this Forum, there is an ongoing debate regarding the possibility of occupied bases on Mars. This debate can be found here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6040-Space-Gate-Ultra-Top-Secret-UFO-Program/page3) I draw your attention to comment #29.

I was waiting for the correct information to reply to that 'Space Gate' Thread. It would seem what Bill has to say here in this Thread in his comment #11, and again in #14 is the answer to the question:



How many people here think that in the 1960s a colony of OVER 500,000 occupants was
constructed under the surface of Mars?

[edit]With the knowledge that the black-ops cartel of the Global Elite are at a minimum of fifty years ahead of the current generally understood reality, perhaps Bill would care to reply to jaybee's doubt himself....

[Bill Ryan]

In another Thread on this Forum, there is an ongoing debate regarding the possibility of occupied bases on Mars. This debate can be found here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6040-Space-Gate-Ultra-Top-Secret-UFO-Program/page3) I draw your attention to comment #29.

I was waiting for the correct information to reply to that 'Space Gate' Thread. It would seem what Bill has to say here in this Thread in his comment #11, and again in #14 is the answer to the question:


How many people here think that in the 1960s a colony of OVER 500,000 occupants was constructed under the surface of Mars?

With the knowledge that the black-ops cartel of the Global Elite are at a minimum of fifty years ahead of the current generally understood reality, perhaps Bill would care to reply to jaybee's doubt himself....

From http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_3.html



Henry [Deacon] told us that the Mars base has a large population – 670,000 as of a few years ago. This seemed a huge number to us. We asked if these were all human. "It depends what you mean by human", came the reply.

The base has been in existence for an extremely long time ("tens of thousands of years"), and its population has waxed and waned over the centuries. It lies "at the bottom of an ancient seabed". It is "not far" from the location of this NASA photo (http://sse.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/display.cfm?IM_ID=568), taken by the 1976 Viking 2 lander on Mars' expansive Utopia Planitia ("Nowhere Plain", sometimes referred to as "Utopian Plain").

Note also that Dr Bill Deagle refers to the facility as a 'colony' - which implies something rather larger and more extensive than a 'base'.

[Operator]

...which he said is fully operational and travels to Mars in 33 (thirty-three) hours.


Bill, I did some calculations but it seems not make any sense ...
From the flight time given and the video supplied by Richard I assume it's a rocket like space plane (correct me if I am wrong).

I looked up the distance between earth and mars ... it depends strongly on where both planets are in orbit but the minimum distance is 55 Million Km (check here (http://www.universetoday.com/14824/distance-from-earth-to-mars/))

So the calculations goes like this:
550000000000 / 33*3600 => 550000000000 / 118800 = 4629629 m/s this would be the constant velocity during 33 hours of flight.

If we take a 5G acceleration (which is actually not feasible for humans) we need to divide by 5*10 m/s2 => 4629629 / 50 = 92592 seconds = 25 hours of acceleration alone to reach that speed ...

So in conventional terms this is far off ....

Apparently this type of plane works differently ... do you have more details on this ?

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, I did some calculations but it seems not make any sense ...

[snip]

Apparently this type of plane works differently ... do you have more details on this ?

Right - it's several million miles a day, maybe between 100,000 - 200,000 mph, or something like Mach 150. It wouldn't be a regular rocket ship. That's why I made the quip earlier about the secondary propulsion mode.

But I have no details - apart from one reference that Henry Deacon made about a sort of 'linear accelerator' system in which the craft was always falling forward into an artificial gravitational 'hole'. That might be a little like the theoretical Alcubierre Drive (http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/A/Alcubdrive.html).

[Harley]

There is another thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?773-Air-Force-space-plane). Beth? :-)

I wrote:


Two notes here:

(1) DARPA was the original owner of the X-37B research program. They since turned it over to the USAF.

(2) The Air Force doesn't release info on Secret projects to the public. NONE. They just don't operate that way.

So why all the whoop-de-do here, with the MSM and all? [...] If you want to really hide something you draw everyones attention away by increasing the noise. And they've taken the X-37B (basically quite old concept and technology) out of mothballs to do just that, because they have something much much more that they don't want us to see!

But wait a minute! I also posted this article:

US military's top secret X-37B shuttle 'disappears' for two weeks, changes orbit
http://www.news.com.au/technology/us-militarys-top-secret-x-37b-shuttle-disappears-for-two-weeks-changes-orbit/story-e6frfro0-1225909738276#ixzz0zOwsOxag

July 29, when the shuttle disappeared, causing all kinds of consternation and conspiracy theories about its fate.
It took amateur skywatcher Greg Roberts of Cape Town, South Africa, who noticed that it failed to appear as scheduled above his base on August 14, another five days to find it.
When he did, he noticed it was some 30km higher and on a different trajectory, according to calculations from other colleagues in Rome and Oklahoma.

And now it's being reported that it's missing altogether? If it hasn't already landed and we just don't know about it, which may be the case, then it's definitely displaying capabilities in endurance and maneuvering beyond any technology that the public has been made aware of. So my question would be why did the AF tell us about this "secret spacecraft" in the first place? The thing was completely enclosed in a shroud on top of the rocket, so really they didn't need to say anything at all. In-fact, this is the way it's always been done when it comes to military launches! I know I'm kinda confused. But wait. Could it possibly be that this is their way of beginning to "introduce us" to some of the technologies that they've possessed for many years? Hmmm.

MUCH of what Bill posted is probably close to correct.

[Operator]

Right - it's several million miles a day, maybe between 100,000 - 200,000 mph, or something like Mach 150. It wouldn't be a regular rocket ship. That's why I made the quip earlier about the secondary propulsion mode.

But I have no details - apart from one reference that Henry Deacon made about a sort of 'linear accelerator' system in which the craft was always falling forward into an artificial gravitational 'hole'. That might be a little like the theoretical Alcubierre Drive (http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/A/Alcubdrive.html).

Ok, sorry I must have missed some of the references before ...
I more or less figured something had to be exceptional here. I guess that besides an exotic propulsion the velocities mentioned are not any type of conventional '3D' speeds either but some sort of 'projected' speeds.
Humans would not survive the acceleration (and deceleration !) and it would take far too long to reach such velocities.

I hope to find out one day what we're missing in our conventional equations ... :noidea:

[Strat]

Ok, sorry I must have missed some of the references before ...
I more or less figured something had to be exceptional here. I guess that besides an exotic propulsion the velocities mentioned are not any type of conventional '3D' speeds either but some sort of 'projected' speeds.
Humans would not survive the acceleration (and deceleration !) and it would take far too long to reach such velocities.

I hope to find out one day what we're missing in our conventional equations ... :noidea:

In this Bob Lazar interview at around 3:15 he explains in intricate detail exactly how this could work. He talks a bit more about it in the next section. This isn't the same thing Bill suggested, but it shows how the idea is possible. The only thing being impossible is we don't have ready access to element 115.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9zoKGaf3AU&feature=related

[Anchor]

Amateur satellite watchers who routinely monitor the secret mini-shuttle

If they wanted to keep it secret, they would. Does this not reek of manipulation?

[Swami]

In this Bob Lazar interview at around 3:15 he explains in intricate detail exactly how this could work. He talks a bit more about it in the next section. This isn't the same thing Bill suggested, but it shows how the idea is possible. The only thing being impossible is we don't have ready access to element 115.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9zoKGaf3AU&feature=related

Phil Schneider - August 1995 Lecture

He doesn't mention element 115 by name, but still its fascinating......

3403113138974316606
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9042499324182317197#docid=-3403113138974316606

From 1:12:00 approx.

[Swami]

Advanced Laser-Engine Combat Air-Space Vehicles


http://htmlimg4.scribdassets.com/9qgi89s6jzwzmww/images/1-0f8df42919/000.png

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14103505/StarLight-Projection-Transparency-Vehicles-1990-2002-

[Carmody]

Being the old fashioned type, I never trust a plane without propellers on it.
And this'n doesn't have windows, either!
Bad JuJu!
Fred

Yeah, you gots to knows for sure that there is nothing outside to look at .....by being allowed to look at the nothing. Thus the psychological need for windows for the staring at of nothing.

On that note..... Somehow I'm reminded of western media by that comment.

[Carmody]

Right - it's several million miles a day, maybe between 100,000 - 200,000 mph, or something like Mach 150. It wouldn't be a regular rocket ship. That's why I made the quip earlier about the secondary propulsion mode.

But I have no details - apart from one reference that Henry Deacon made about a sort of 'linear accelerator' system in which the craft was always falling forward into an artificial gravitational 'hole'. That might be a little like the theoretical Alcubierre Drive (http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/A/Alcubdrive.html).

I theorized that, in my early 20s.

With the ideas of the medium put forth in the 'spirals everywhere' thread (an Oct.12.2010 newly emergent theory specifically confirming, in most respects, the spiral integration aspect of dual wave/particle 3-d reality), we come to the aluminum aspect of Nikolai Kosyrev's gravity or dimensional wave, that is timeless and seemingly massless and penetrates everything and goes everywhere.

Except for the point that aluminum stops or inhibits that wave. And that suns/stars emit the wave or noise/frequency, at their cores, which is how Kozyrev found it.And not one element of any kind would block it, except aluminum.

this means that the aspects of the Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Frequencies of aluminum are harmonics of the base wave/particle construction components of the universe. Harmonics of the prime frequency, is the deal, as they interact with and thus seemingly block.

So, two different wave emitters could thus be mounted on the front of a given starship, and they would create a desired black hole type gravitational structure for propulsion and protection from debris at these given extreme speeds. This would also equate to the generating hardware gaining exemption from gravitational effects from acceleration of the ship, the ship being in the wave bubble at the ship's head..the gear only generating the single wave,and then the two generators wave outputs combining/crossing to create the gravitational interference bubble.

which, incidentally, is exactly the same way that Keeley, Tesla, the chanting monks, etc all combine waves to defeat gravity. It does not matter if it is acoustic, or electrical in origin..the effect remains the same. it is a generated interference bubble, and the forces are so potent..that even a minor offset of these energies creates enormous force differentials in our world, exactly akin to the power noted in Nuclear bombs vs the matter/mass involved.

This leads to the Sweet vacuum tube and the Henry Moray over-unity devices, in the direct sense.

This was my hypothesis in my youth and it still holds up to scrutiny today.

Interesting that Henry Deacon said the same.

edit: My idea was for local sub light travel.

Placing generators at the back and and the front of the ship ,as in the linked article, creates a 'seed squeezed in a giant greased sock' down a pipeline kind of effect in 'space-time'. That is considerably more dangerous but would be essential for FTL travel. Which directly implicates trans-dimensional travel by it's very existence.

The reason that sort of drive systems (fore and aft) MIGHT be notably more dangerous is... if there is even the slightest imbalance of the forces involved, you can kiss it goodbye in less than a nanosecond.

I'm trying to figure out how to distribute the forces involved along the ship's body and You end up coming up against standard stress force limits, involving gravitation, etc. To get to super fast hyperactive type systems, the field would not have to be just inner vs outer, but one end vs the other. All as a balanced set. On the immediate take, that is a pretty tall order. I've no illusion that it cannot be figured out, though...And this gets back to my comments on the underground base at Dulce thread concerning nano-materials make up of crystallized aluminum alloys.


Hhmm...If they are made up to have a semi-conductive aspect, then an electrostatic field pulsed at the right frequency and in resonance. And thus you'd have your shield and basic enclosed bubble state. Probably why most craft are shaped the way they are...cigar shaped, for example -for simplicity's sake. A design generational thing.

The reason you use the aluminum based or whatever nano-alloy pulsed at resonance..is that frequential tuning errors, which could be generated by outer noise entering they system are neatly sidestepped, as when the material itself is generating the resonance frequency, this gives the system inherent immunity to interference or mis-tuning failure. It simply cannot happen. If the system is turned on -at all-, it is operating to perfection.

This might be seen as either a perfect white light source, or even as a perfect mirror. Maybe both. Sound familiar?

I knew I''d figure it out quick...... :p ;)

Gather toogther UFO films and imagery. Check on the light frequency spectrum in the images. It should be a perfect white light, perfect frequency distribution across the visible light range that can be measured in the imagery or files for the given video.

The next thought, going backward, is that this would be the same trick used in black ops radar immunity systems for aircraft. Or for the home made UFO's. Whoops. Did I think that out loud?

Then the thing of lasers causing their field uniformity to fail and thus cause the UFO's to crash. Horribly, I might add.

[Swami]

Does this explain it in a visible way Carmody...?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=2500

[Carmody]

The understanding is that you are actually changing the relationship of the bubble around the ship so it is in a contracted or expanded 'space', depending on how you want to see it (see the ship as expanding or contracting). Then the space is within the confines of being able to act in other dimensional aspects of 3d space. This is akin to the 'fade' we see when we personally see or hear of reports of ghosts, or devices or ships or apparitions from other spaces. To 'move' the relationship between the front of the back of the ship is altered slightly. I mean excruciatingly slightly. We are talking about tipping the binding forces of this 3d universe by a hair. Which the universe being a electric entity, it's going to primarily one of resonant voltage fields of the frequencies related to that of the aluminum situation, as outlined..., exactly the road that T. Townshend Brown went down, in many respects. It is also known that the ships take time to charge up their fields and are loathe to set down,and the video as of recent that shows the UFO images and photos where they sit on rests so their charge state can be maintained..shows this to be true photos of UFO's man made ones, in this case. Then you add in this perfectly balanced field being disturbed by early lasers, and the field collapsing, the resonant charges then being lost..and the alien UFO falling out of the sky..and there it is.

So this might be the REAL case and reason for getting the high power 1 watt lasers out of the hands of the public, as those puppies can crash the man made UFOs by disrupting the perfection of the charge field, like the US government has been doing to alien UFO's. And to their enemies Anti gravity craft.

So take high power laser pencils to suspected UFO places and take them out of the sky, is my guess. If you really want to know, that is.

What we see is a 3d item, that goes to stereoscopic 2d flat appearance..then that fades away and/or gets smaller to the eye, all at the same time. The same mechanism that allows for a psychic to see through time and space and see or have waking visions. The appearance of a UFO or whatever going into hyperdrive may be and I would expect to be nearly the same. If you go to the 'at the ranch' thread and look at the photos (last few pages) of the gentleman who is 'phasing', that is one way it can look. He is in a temporal bubble. In his case, temporal and dimensional, which is the same as this here. This is a technical solution, though as opposed to humanly enacted. But the appearances could be similar.

As well, there is this thread about Steven Green using high powered 1 watt laser pencils to 'play with UFO's... I say HELL NO... those ufo's cannot allow those beams to cross their path and land and impact that field. At all! ever! not even once!

Remember, it is a semiconductive or even possibly superconductive or near superconductive nano-alloy that goes into a resonance that is similar to the distance between the particles and the charge capacity of the material, vs it's shape. All these components working together create shaped resonant charge envelope.

Any semi conductive material is ALSO going to be sensitive to light and heat,..and the disturbance of a 1 watt laser is going to be enough to do something akin to disturbing the field in a small area and..shift things enough to possibly engage shutdown systems or pop the generator system due to energetic out of sync feedback. Quite likely near explosively, as the resonant voltage field is going to be at least in the mega-volt range, is my guess. The skin of the ship is a resonant capacitor of a shape charge. And then shifting the position of some internal components, mechanically, like sliding capacitors for old style FM tuners (variable capacitors), will provide the aetheric value change on the given side of the ship and provide directional thrust. Since the internal components are in the envelope, they are immune to damage, or disturbance.

This can also be done via thought, and via crystals, piezoelectric in nature, so the story of alien ships and some human variants (control and design of ships) of such can then be seen as more possibly -true.

These are just guesses ..but they follow the potentials in science, and the potentials in the evidence we've seen so far --that had no connective tissue.


This is connective tissue.

[Fredkc]

SPACE PLANE FOUND:

Fair use
http://spaceweather.com/

Thursday, Oct. 14, 2010

The US Air Force's X-37B space plane, which disappeared last week, has been found again. Satellite watcher Greg Roberts sighted the secret mini-shuttle flying over Cape Town, South Africa, on Oct 12th. An analysis of the sighting by satellite expert Ted Molczan suggests that the X-37B has maneuvered into an orbit 54 km lower than before. Here it is passing in front of the Orion Nebula!

[Harley]

Thanks Fred!

That little guy is just zipping around all over the place, isn't it? I can't help but wonder what it's doing (or where it's at?) during the times that it's "lost".

Can you imagine how much time this guy spends trying to find this thing every time he loses it? He's dedicated, that's fer sure!

[sargeist]

so what did that guy take a photo of today?

sure looks like an x37 on the back of a truck near vandenburg

http://i55.tinypic.com/9geul0.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/mwf5vl.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/2lu97vl.jpg

[sargeist]

to add - i have no idea if its a mock-up or model, but since they claim to only have one of them...

just re-posting the pics for you guys to look at.

and no, i didnt take them.

[Operator]

to add - i have no idea if its a mock-up or model, but since they claim to only have one of them...

just re-posting the pics for you guys to look at.

and no, i didnt take them.

Well again about pictures ...

1. You can look at what is on the picture
2. you can also look at the circumstances

About the what is on the picture ...
A shuttle type of craft has very expensive and sensitive tiles on the bottom ... so there is NO WAY they will put such a thing on concrete blocks like that.

About the circumstances ...
If this was real they would have transported it as a guided convoy and a tarp or something to cover it ...

So one thing is very clear ... someone wants somehow for whatever reason this thing to be displayed and seen !
Maybe they hope for a conclusion like there is only one so ... etc.

[Bill Ryan]

Love it... :)

But definitely a model: look at the rear - no rocket engine there. It's probably full-sized, though - the real thing is only 29' 3" long.

[Carmody]

It looks like an aerodynamics test mock up.

[Carmody]

The understanding is that you are actually changing the relationship of the bubble around the ship so it is in a contracted or expanded 'space', depending on how you want to see it (see the ship as expanding or contracting). Then the space is within the confines of being able to act in other dimensional aspects of 3d space. This is akin to the 'fade' we see when we personally see or hear of reports of ghosts, or devices or ships or apparitions from other spaces. To 'move' the relationship between the front of the back of the ship is altered slightly. I mean excruciatingly slightly. We are talking about tipping the binding forces of this 3d universe by a hair. Which the universe being a electric entity, it's going to primarily one of resonant voltage fields of the frequencies related to that of the aluminum situation, as outlined..., exactly the road that T. Townshend Brown went down, in many respects. It is also known that the ships take time to charge up their fields and are loathe to set down,and the video as of recent that shows the UFO images and photos where they sit on rests so their charge state can be maintained..shows this to be true photos of UFO's man made ones, in this case. Then you add in this perfectly balanced field being disturbed by early lasers, and the field collapsing, the resonant charges then being lost..and the alien UFO falling out of the sky..and there it is.


What we see is a 3d item, that goes to stereoscopic 2d flat appearance..then that fades away and/or gets smaller to the eye, all at the same time. The same mechanism that allows for a psychic to see through time and space and see or have waking visions. The appearance of a UFO or whatever going into hyperdrive may be and I would expect to be nearly the same. If you go to the 'at the ranch' thread and look at the photos (last few pages) of the gentleman who is 'phasing', that is one way it can look. He is in a temporal bubble. In his case, temporal and dimensional, which is the same as this here. This is a technical solution, though as opposed to humanly enacted. But the appearances could be similar.

Remember, it is a semiconductive or even possibly superconductive or near superconductive nano-alloy that goes into a resonance that is similar to the distance between the particles and the charge capacity of the material, vs it's shape. All these components working together create shaped resonant charge envelope.

Any semi conductive material is ALSO going to be sensitive to light and heat,..and the disturbance of a 1 watt laser is going to be enough to do something akin to disturbing the field in a small area and..shift things enough to possibly engage shutdown systems or pop the generator system due to energetic out of sync feedback. Quite likely near explosively, as the resonant voltage field is going to be at least in the mega-volt range, is my guess. The skin of the ship is a resonant capacitor of a shape charge. And then shifting the position of some internal components, mechanically, like sliding capacitors for old style FM tuners (variable capacitors), will provide the aetheric value change on the given side of the ship and provide directional thrust. Since the internal components are in the envelope, they are immune to damage, or disturbance.

This can also be done via thought, and via crystals, piezoelectric in nature, so the story of alien ships and some human variants (control and design of ships) of such can then be seen as more possibly -true.


The point to understand here, to help one understand.. is that the entire need is for a field to be polarized and resonant throughout the ship's skin and around it. The field does not necessary have to be high current (high density and motional)..nor does it have to extend far from the ship. Primarily...the field must extend in a stable fashion throughout and around the ship's skin, with no polarization disturbances, and then that would be modulated at resonance. The primary problems would center around field uniformity, disturbance, and losses (conductivity, changes in complex LCR in the interactive areas of air surrounding the ship in atmospheric flight).

Thus... the shape of the craft must AID, nay, must reflect the natural tendency of field development on and in a given object shape. Thus the shape of UFO's tend to be, and in most cases MUST be that of a natural charge field or plasma. This, in order to have the field be controllable and stable for effective use and manipulation.

Thus cylinders, Frisbee types as hat shapes, cigars, spheres, and the triangle shape, which is more than likely pushing the limit for charge shape controlling,and more than likely has a floating platform aspect to it that makes it nearly unidirectional in it's capacity for acceleration in the given desired direction. (Must twist and orient before thrusting or enacting motion)

My guess would have the cylinders, cigars, and spheres being the more advanced ships. My guess has the cigar being the most stable shape for this field development system.

The motion and acceleration patterns of all the ships seen so far, of the various shapes involved...support this hypothesis.

As for pyramids, yes, they are also an excellent shape for fields shaping, control, and polarization, the 3-sided ones better than the four sided shape. think polarized resonant plasma function and it all becomes clear.

The effects noted by Russian experiments involving pyramids on the surface of the planet, those pyramids creating effects that are nearly and possibly exactly equatable to Vortex grid line and ley line effects..well....that also adds considerable strength to the proffered hypothesis.

If you go back to the 'Soul Harvester' thread and the 'spirals everywhere' thread (in the general area) and read my contributions there, you get the connection between vortex point effects and this system of dimensional and linear motion that surround these craft and their methods of propulsion and dimensional shift/displacement.

[Carmody]

The point to understand here, to help one understand.. is that the entire need is for a field to be polarized and resonant throughout the ship's skin and around it. The field does not necessary have to be high current (high density and motional)..nor does it have to extend far from the ship. Primarily...the field must extend in a stable fashion throughout and around the ship's skin, with no polarization disturbances, and then that would be modulated at resonance. The primary problems would center around field uniformity, disturbance, and losses (conductivity, changes in complex LCR in the interactive areas of air surrounding the ship in atmospheric flight).

Thus... the shape of the craft must AID, nay, must reflect the natural tendency of field development on and in a given object shape. Thus the shape of UFO's tend to be, and in most cases MUST be that of a natural charge field or plasma. This, in order to have the field be controllable and stable for effective use and manipulation.

Thus cylinders, Frisbee types as hat shapes, cigars, spheres, and the triangle shape, which is more than likely pushing the limit for charge shape controlling,and more than likely has a floating platform aspect to it that makes it nearly unidirectional in it's capacity for acceleration in the given desired direction. (Must twist and orient before thrusting or enacting motion)

My guess would have the cylinders, cigars, and spheres being the more advanced ships. My guess has the cigar being the most stable shape for this field development system.

The motion and acceleration patterns of all the ships seen so far, of the various shapes involved...support this hypothesis.

As for pyramids, yes, they are also an excellent shape for fields shaping, control, and polarization, the 3-sided ones better than the four sided shape. think polarized resonant plasma function and it all becomes clear.

The effects noted by Russian experiments involving pyramids on the surface of the planet, those pyramids creating effects that are nearly and possibly exactly equatable to Vortex grid line and ley line effects..well....that also adds considerable strength to the proffered hypothesis.

If you go back to the 'Soul Harvester' thread and the 'spirals everywhere' thread (in the general area) and read my contributions there, you get the connection between vortex point effects and this system of dimensional and linear motion that surround these craft and their methods of propulsion and dimensional shift/displacement.


How does one build this skin? This capacitive skin, for a polarized resonant singular field shape?


An electret is a stable dielectric material with a permanently-embedded static electric charge (which, due to the high resistance of the material, will not decay for hundreds of years). The name comes from electrostatic and magnet; drawing analogy to the formation of a magnet by alignment of magnetic domains in a piece of iron. Electrets are commonly made by first melting a suitable dielectric material such as a plastic or wax that contains polar molecules, and then allowing it to re-solidify in a powerful electrostatic field. The polar molecules of the dielectric align themselves to the direction of the electrostatic field, producing a permanent electrostatic 'bias'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret

That is likely the core build/design point for the tesseract called 'yellowbook'. Six electrets facing one another. Even the description of it's physical use/actions follows the rules.

I have not, in my opinion, made a single misstep in potentials -yet.

Find the fault in my argument. Please. I see no end to it's extrapolation and no fault in it's reach or fit to known, observed, or imagined considerations. This has very long legs.. it goes everywhere, without fault. A perfect fit.

As for the 3-sided pyramid, that would be best for flying and/or motional craft that utilize shaped resonant charge fields. For energetic translation, the 4 sided pyramid rears it's head as a better shape.

[Harley]

Nice photos, sargeist! Were there any other notes on them, like a date or a more specific location?

Here are some notes to add to the wonderment of it all: :popcorn:

Depending on the date and location of the photos I might conclude that this is the X-37 Technology Demonstrator, an Approach and Landing Test Vehicle (ALTV) only, on it's way to Scaled Composites in the Mojave Desert (Edwards AFB) for Drop Testing (Around April, 2006). That would make this basically a Mock-Up Vehicle (Not fully functional, like the Enterprise Shuttle Vehicle).

http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=12163
A team from Scaled Composites, Boeing and the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) was expected to attempt a drop test of the X-37 approach and landing test vehicle (ALTV) reusable spaceplane over the Edwards AFB test range in California around 1 April.

Redubbed the ALTV, the focus of the X-37 effort has since been redirected to proving the autonomous approach and landing capability of the spaceplane, a 120% scale model of the Air Force Research Laboratory’s X-40 Space Maneuver Vehicle: a small, powered space vehicle technology demonstrator that was successfully drop-tested by a Sikorsky UH-60 helicopter over Edwards AFB in 1998. DARPA’s aim is to seed development of commercial and military reusable space vehicles.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/04/04/205787/scaled-back-x-37-approach-and-landing-vehicle-faces-drop.html

Those aren't concrete blocks. They are Styrofoam blocks.

Expensive and sensitive tiles on the bottom? Boeing?! No way! That's 70's-80's technology. The tiles were always the primary source of trouble on the Shuttles, and the Shuttle was already an antique when it was introduced. Even Von Braun tried to resist the STS Program, claiming that it was too inefficient and too dangerous! The STS was nothing more than a Public Relations Stunt, just like Apollo.

Cover it? Why? Doesn't DARPA and the USAF always want to disclose their Top Secret Projects to the Public?

One would think that the "Drop Test" model should include the Engines also, to facilitate valid testing. But wait, maybe the Engines ARE THERE! What are those two little "holes" in the back? It may need to ride a rocket to launch it, but I have a feeling that they're testing another form of propulsion here.

[Fredkc]

There was a test, or proof of concept critter built.

From the USAF Fact Sheet (http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=16639):

NASA's original X-37 program began in 1999 and ran until September 2004 when NASA transferred the program to DARPA. NASA envisioned building two vehicles, an Approach and Landing Test Vehicle, or ALTV, and an Orbital Vehicle. The ALTV validated flight dynamics and extended the flight envelope beyond the low speed/low altitude tests conducted by NASA from 1998 through 2001 on the X-40A, a sub-scale version of the X-37 developed by Air Force Research Labs. DARPA completed the ALTV portion of the X-37 program in September 2006 by successfully executing a series of captive carry and free flight tests. NASA's X-37 Orbital Vehicle was never built: but its design was the starting point for the Air Force's X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle program.
Fred

[sargeist]

afaik pics were taken @30 hrs ago, truck was northbound between summerland and san buenaventura on the 101, heading toward vandenburg

im not american so i cannot comment on details of location or possible destination.

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i thought the blocks looked styrofoam also.

as was said elsewhere, if it can handle atmospheric re-entry, some rain and the odd gravel chip isnt going to hurt much.

also note there appear to be peoples signatures on the rear face around where the exhaust nozzles should be attached

[Carmody]

http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-11-artificial-black-holes-metamaterials.html

Artificial black holes made with metamaterials
November 16, 2010

While our direct knowledge of black holes in the universe is limited to what we can observe from thousands or millions of light years away, a team of Chinese physicists has proposed a simple way to design an artificial electromagnetic (EM) black hole in the laboratory.


In the Journal of Applied Physics, Huanyang Chen at Soochow University and colleagues have presented a design of an artificial EM black hole designed using five types of composite isotropic materials, layered so that their transverse magnetic modes capture EM waves to which the object is subjected. The artificial EM black hole does not let EM waves escape, analogous to a black hole trapping light. In this case, the trapped EM waves are in the microwave region of the spectrum.

The so-called metamaterials used in the experiment are artificially engineered materials designed to have unusual properties not seen in nature. Metamaterials have also been used in studies of invisibility cloaking and negative-refraction superlenses. The group suggests the same method might be adaptable to higher frequencies, even those of visible light.

"Development of artificial black holes would enable us to measure how incident light is absorbed when passing through them," says Chen. "They can also be applied to harvesting light in a solar-cell system."

More information: The article, "A simple design of an artificial electromagnetic black hole" by Wanli Lu, JunFeng Jin, Zhifang Lin, and Huanyang Chen appears in the Journal of Applied Physics. See: http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v108/i6/p064517_s1?isAuthorized=no

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And there you go.

The precursor information on the creation of these skins..for these trans-dimensional craft.

[Carmody]

So, we move from the one point to the next required stage.

This is a physical consideration or methodology..but this can also be applied electromagnetically, with something like a capacitive and electromagnetically polarized electret like complex metamaterial alloy, with regard to forming a temporal or 'black hole' or 'dimensional differential' bubble.

A few words on Johnathan Whorrel Keeley. If you don't get this, I really don't know what it will take to spark your mind to understanding.

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Modern science essentially holds that matter is held together by enormous electrical forces that can be interrupted by bombardment with particles, thus liberating energy. This is certainly true for certain highly unstable elements such as plutonium, but try doing it with lead.

Based on his experiments in vibratory physics Keely thought otherwise. Keely found that pure matter is highly unstable and that stability is the result of interference patterns set up by the interaction of different molecular groupings vibrating at incompatible frequencies.

Fundamentally, Keely's approach was simple.

We know we can cancel a waveform by leveling against it the same waveform that has been inverted.

So Keely set about doing just that. He identified the incompatible waveforms that interfered with the pure fundamental waveform of the body under study and proceeded to cancel them out by by tuning the mass he operated upon to as pure a note he could manage and an arrangement of acoustic resonators of opposite value to the incompatible frequencies that were left.

He called this his 'system of graduation'. There is more to it than that, but for the moment it will suffice. The subject of graduation will be covered in greater detail in a later chapter.

In his view this created a state where ALL FORCES were held in perfect balance.

On a finely balanced scale, no matter how heavy the load on each side, it takes only a minuscule amount of change on either side to disturb equilibrium.

Keely reasoned that disturbance of equilibrium in the body under study could be influenced by changing the amplitude of selected sections in the fundamental pure frequency pattern.

We know that a resonant body will accept energy at its own level of resonance but reject energy at frequencies far removed from its own level of resonance. This is also true for the harmonics of that fundamental frequency.

By an arrangement of acoustic resonators, carefully tuned to the precise frequency of the harmonic he wanted to stimulate, he managed to achieve this.

So far we are still on safe ground as far as contemporary science is concerned. Though very much simplified here for the sake of readability this is essentially what Keely did.

What follows is extraordinary and not documented in any accepted scientific study I am aware of.

Keely claims that by changing the amplitude of certain segments of the wavepattern he could influence the cohesive forces between particles from an incredible denseness to complete disintegration. In other words he believed he had found a way to manipulate gravity.

Keely, vehemently claimed that bodies of 'pure concordant harmony' did not exist in nature, in fact could not exist in nature, and that such pure states had to be induced by artifice. He further claimed that this state had to be created before any manipulation could take place.

http://www.keelytech.com/intro.html

[Banshee]

Huntsville Alabama

[Carmody]

Huntsville Alabama

Huntsville, Alabama from 1950 to 1970, Dr. von Braun.

[Banshee]

look at the plane.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Found it...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2010/c2/20101115/20101115_1924_c2_1024.jpg

[Carmody]

http://keelynet.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/electrostatic-levitation/

[Carmody]

Lifted from a thread on solfeggio frequencies, a post by me, a response to a comment I originally made.



How to Make an Electret
the Device That Permanently Maintains an Electric Charge


http://www.only1egg-productions.org/AltSci/ElectrostaticMotors/Electrets/Electret.html

I like the fact it employs wax , rather than synthetic resin

http://keelynet.com/unclass/hardy1.gif

the Image link is from Keelynet, and the date is from 1992, and I received or eyeballed that image for the first time, around 1993-1995 or so..and have had that tick-tick-ticking in my brain since then.


I found it being used on this website:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/

So they need the correct shape to deal with the XYZ spin of the energetic egress. And thus, they ratcheted their way into an energy expression as matter is vibrational QUANTA, not a continual expression.

A piezoelectric pyramid (which the original and full Cheops pyramid definitely WAS-look up the constitutional aspects of the materials involved. pressure provides voltage in which is ALSO a forced DIRECTION of potential in something like a massive pyramid) in a dry environment, immersed in a oscillating gravitational field that also has a gradient to it..well, there is no possibility other than a ratcheted energetic expression of energetic flow.

If we go back to the Mexican pyramid shaft image that was taken back in 2008, or whatever, in the background of the image, you can see the local lightening strike that is providing the electrostatic impulse that is firing off the pyramid. And thus we get the flash of light in the "microwave antenna box" that the core of the Mexican pyramid actually IS appearing in the photo. The lightening strike enabled the system in a dramatic fashion with the electrostatic differential impulse wave.


A considerable amount of information is on that site, have fun sorting through it. Some of it is critical and gets lost as the fringe has to gather together and help itself before it becomes mainstream. If it does not, it remains fringe and the erosion of time tends to dissipate it. Some of the links in this site may be dead or changed. I'm not arguing the veracity of any of the information on the site, but a considerable amount of what is spoken about the 'ormus' fits or dovetails perfectly into what Joseph P. Farrrell says about The WWII German experiments into "The Nazi Bell" and photochemical extraction via excitation in uranium separation technologies, and beyond. The charging of the Nazi serum (red mercury) and bunch of other things. I'm not finding one weak spot in the arguments, anywhere. Anytime that there is a point where the given explanations can be cross referenced within their own anomalous scientific findings..they fit together perfectly. What I'm saying is that seemingly separate avenue of science that have totally anomalous results regarding modern science, things that cannot be explained..when these two fringe sciences and their associated results and postulations are correlated with one another, they agree to utter perfection and bridge gaps in the modern science that surrounds them.



Then this VERY interesting bit of data, found not just a few minutes ago. ANOTHER broad potential for correlation, regarding the importance of platonic solids with regard to their angular aspects, and thus their relation to the geometric arrangement of matter... regarding integration of energies...and egress of energies.

The Key statement...... OPTICAL LIFT:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-12-optical-video.html


Intrigued, the researchers decided to do physical experiments in the laboratory, and they created tiny, transparent, micrometer-sized rods that were flat on one side and rounded on the other, rather like airplane wings. They immersed the lighfoils in water and bombarded them with 130 mW ultraviolet laser light from underneath the chamber. As predicted, the lightfoils were pushed upwards by the light, but they also moved sideways in a direction perpendicular to the beam of light, in other words they were optically lifted. Symmetrical micro-spheres did not show the optical lift effect.

So, the key then can be seen with being tied to an asymmetrical mechanistic or geometric design parameters, on either the atomic individual, the molecular, or the physical mass aggregate direction. In most cases, all three are required to be hit at the same time for an effective system. Sorry to get all woo-woo on the science stuff, but Tesla said and so do most of not all mystics that make it to the highest heights, they say they see giant moving ever complex geometric mandalas. Which are seemingly the back drop components of the holographic nature of this 3-d universe.

I mean, even Micheal Newton, the regression hypnotist found that geometric patterns on display as amulets, displays, sights, etc.. and as basic components of learning that young inexperienced souls were exposed to in their earlier incarnations where, shall we say, exceedingly prominent in the 'other realms' whence the 'soul' comes from. This, according to his writings on the subject of his regression studies. He had no idea what they meant. This may go some distance down the road into development of some sort of explanation.


In aerodynamic lift, which is created by an airfoil, the lift occurs because the wing shape causes air flowing under the wing to move more slowly and at higher pressure than that above the wing. In optical lift, created by a lightfoil, the lift is created within the transparent object as light shines through it and is refracted by its inner surfaces. In the lightfoil rods a greater proportion of light leaves in a direction perpendicular to the beam and this side therefore experiences a larger radiation pressure and hence, lift.

Unlike aerodynamic lift, which has gradual lift angles, the optical lift angles were around 60 degrees, which Swartzlander said was striking, very powerful, and could be compared to a plane taking off at 60 degrees. “Your stomach would be in your feet,” he said.

Swartzlander described the findings as “almost like the first stages of what the Wright brothers did,” and said the next step would be to test lightfoils in air and experiment with a variety of materials with different refractive properties, and with other wavelengths of light.

The corollary of the above statement expressed as a question...is..:"Why do UFO's emit visible light?"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flN1l01JVaA&feature=player_embedded

I've been talking about this publicly (in full connection) for a year, and hoping it would spread around to intelligent people so they would look at it. Everywhere I went (on the net), I'd speak on it, even as constant volleys of tomatoes and such were whipped at me. I've been working on this one since 2005, actually. So it's finally gaining some real traction.

In the science part of the is post, the bit about optical lift, you are looking at something that would be described as a mechanically derived optical diode.

Ie, the optical diode effect comes strictly via geometry.

Which is a HUGE change in coming thinking on these subjects, back to the Tesla and Keely, etc fundamentals. Back to the beginnings. Back 12,000+ years.

[Carmody]

The world works in interesting ways, synchronicity and all that. Yesterday I had a conversation with a friend. Not unusual. However, since I had just wrote this above post up, I ended up getting pyramids into the conversation. Inadvertently. He brought up architecture and I bought up modern insanities of such. I mentioned the eyesore in Las Vegas. The "Pyramid".

Well, he just happened to know one of the folks involved in that one. He says the thing presented interesting problems in the cooling department. It was a thermal addition system, where the heat from below would transfer to the next floor, but the surface area and the cubic volume would decrease. And the pyramid is basically black. In the desert. Sun. What he said was the heat accumulation presented some serious air flow and thermal accumulation issues. My guess, is specifically when the thermal addition-penetration reached the core. Meaning, as the thermal differential from the exterior input reached the point where the depth of penetration went to the center of the floor or closer to it..AND the thermal addition from the floor below added in, there would be serious air conditioning and air flow issues.

What this means with respects to the Great Pyramid, well... the blocks and the skin were notably piezoelectric, and it was/is in the sun, with thermal differentials. My point is that the 3D thermal aspects would create differential aspects in the 3D XYZ aspects of electrostatic stressing. Besides the mechanical stressing. So, an internal situation where each cubic inch gets a specific xyz point and vector of electrostatic stressing. Which adds up to a flow pattern, in 3D. Which is likely controlled by the block size, orientation, and location.

Just another thing to consider in the Pyramid's construction. A giant (huge interactive field) electrostatic 'ratcheting diode-like' shaped pulse charge device. Fired by gravitation and other aspects of alternating field that the earth is constantly undergoing.

To top it off, it is designed so it is the most sympathetic tuning fork you could ever hope for, when it comes to being sympathetic to the earth's fluctuations. Even the position on the globe is perfect. Every aspect of it's size and design is in perfect sympathy and step with the earth's geometry.

The question is then, what kind of field is it still residually producing and what was it's original purpose?

The question is whether it is a dimensional one -or not. You see, the field types that it produced were ones of being a reflection of ongoing active/live earth stressing. If the earth has an 'energy grid' See or get the Becker-Hagens grid and also the KMZ 'Google earth' overlay file for it, which is ENORMOUSLY useful-as a pair.

My personal experience of the grid, before I knew it existed is that I, being psychically sensitive..would literally 'freak out' when I went over what I later found out to be 'energy lines' or 'grid lines' (ley lines). I would feel that the sky and ground changed position and I was being pulled out of my body and I could not keep the ground sky orientation correct. I would suffer vertigo and feel as if I was being pulled out of my body, into the sky. so, for me, at that particular height of sensitivity, I would find the leaving my body was enormously reduced in complexity and that I was being pulled out.
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My point, for non-believers of such, is that my personal experience in those areas is that I can literally 'dial in' my sensitivity from a near ZERO to 'maximum overdrive' levels of sensitivity via diet, exercise...a few different tools, like recognition of and inclusion of monatomics in said diet... and meditation. If done in the right ways, my sensitivity goes through the roof. This is true for most people but if you don't know the path to getting there and you aren't disciplined enough, ti simply won't happen. Thus it quite easy to disbelieve, and for the larger prat, 20 or more years ago, I'd be hard pressed to understand the apparent woo-woo I now know so intimately. I made the attempt to skip over that line of personal knowledge with a seriously adhered to regimen. ie, go big, or stay home. Get it up, be honest, or walk away.

If one disagrees...don't disparage what you don't know and aren't willing to put the effort into. That would be infantile, at best. I state it that way as the change in the given person is one of that nature. It is a change in viewpoint that allows one to take in a seeming missing element that allows for clarity to evolve in a range of questions where if only science (with current known parameters) rules..you have no basis for any extrapolation. Current Scientific standing creates exclusion --a zero for a data set. My point, is that in the idea of theoretical postulation, there comes a time that the theoretical postulation system itself fails in the face of something that is larger is scope. And if the theoretical postulations of known science (which are intimately tied to man and all his foibles, regardless of science's statement to be it's opposite) fail to take into account an entire and literal 'dimension' of aspects, then it is simply going to have a giant 'fail' sticker stamped across it's forehead.
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Back to the subject at hand:

If this be true, then the position of the great Pyramid and WHAT IT DOES, may be as a dimensional gateway, that blows spirits out of bodies like a tennis ball out of a tube. (You can visualize them as flaming tennis balls if you like).

Could it be that the quarantine that David Wilcock speaks of was involved with this device? Or that maybe it was designed to blow 'spirits' (for lack of a better term) past that barrier? These are just questions to be test fitted to the data, is all. I'm sure that many more will appear, as one ponders this information's veracity. Some wilder and woollier than others.

Th reason this is in the space plane thread is due to speculation on propulsion systems. This could be considered part of the basics of an electrostatic and thus gravitational affecting system. It has to be fleshed out so it makes a bit more sense.

[MariaDine]

Acording to the Info, pyramids are use to open/activate interdimensional travel portals. Some are inactive for safety reasons.

Namasté
MD

[jack]

Did they find the spacecraft?

[Carmody]

which one? (heh heh)

A bit more clarity on how the propulsion system works. Stolen from my reply in a coral castle thread:

Acoustic levitation works. It does require at least one aspect of geometry and materials to overlay one another to set up the primary Helmholtz resonance. This is why singing bowls are actually.....quite effective.

The resonance in the transient domain, actually causes extremely high rates of acceleration on the micro and/or nano scale. As the dimensional aspect of it as portal system allows for the same energies as fission and fusion to leak out in the excitation stage, we get dimensional and real world leakage of these IMMENSE energies. Thus, dimensional shifting, levitation from gravity, time travel, etc. As well as energetic excitation gating energies we can use and convert to electricity, thus the over unity aspects.

The problem comes when the gating capacity of the system goes into positive overload or runaway. The story has been that Atlantis went down due to a positive resonant overload of a crystal power source. Imagine, if you will (pick a size) a fission reaction or dimensional energy egress of a 200lb self resonant crystal 'going nuclear'.