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Referee
11th February 2014, 00:59
From Larouche Pac
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This vote is set to occur around, or just a little after 6:30pm EASTERN, today 2/10/2014. Please call your congressperson if he or she is listed below, and demand that they reverse their positions on the bill. Find your congressperson now.
Congress Set To Vote War-Starting Resolution
This evening, the U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on H. Res. 447, a resolution supporting the openly fascist-led opposition forces in Ukraine, in violation of U.S. treaty obligations, and all sane international and moral law. H. Res. 447, submitted Dec. 16, 2013 by Democratic Rep. Eliot Engel of New York, is supported by 53 Congressmen, both Democrat and Republican, and is being considered under a suspension of the rules, a method used when a resolution is expected to pass by a voice vote.
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Octavusprime
11th February 2014, 01:20
Here is the text of the document from govtrack.us https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hres447/text
113th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 447
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
December 16, 2013
Mr. Engel (for himself, Mr. Royce, Mr. Levin, Ms. Kaptur, Mr. Keating, and Mr. Gerlach) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs
RESOLUTION
Supporting the democratic and European aspirations of the people of Ukraine, and their right to choose their own future free of intimidation and fear.
Whereas a democratic, prosperous, and independent Ukraine is in the national interest of the United States;
Whereas closer relations with the European Union (EU) through the signing of an Association Agreement will promote democratic values, good governance, and economic opportunity in Ukraine;
Whereas millions of Ukrainian citizens support closer relations with Europe and the signing of an Association Agreement;
Whereas the Government of Ukraine has declared integration with Europe a national priority and has made significant progress toward meeting the requirements for the Association Agreement;
Whereas Ukraine has the sovereign right to enter into voluntary partnerships of its choosing, in keeping with its interests;
Whereas Ukraine’s closer relations with the EU do not threaten any other country, and will benefit both Ukraine and its neighbors;
Whereas on November 21, 2013, following several months of intense outside pressure, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych abruptly suspended negotiations on the Association Agreement one week before it was due to be signed at the EU’s Eastern Partnership Summit in Vilnius, Lithuania;
Whereas this reversal of stated government policy precipitated demonstrations by hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens in Kyiv as well as in cities throughout the country;
Whereas the demonstrators have been overwhelmingly peaceful and have sought to exercise their constitutional rights to freely assemble and express their opposition to President Yanukovych’s decision, as well as their support for greater government accountability and closer relations with Europe;
Whereas on November 30, 2013, police violently dispersed peaceful demonstrators in Kyiv’s Independence Square, resulting in many injuries and the arrest of several dozen individuals;
Whereas on December 11, 2013, police raided 3 opposition media outlets and the headquarters of an opposition party;
Whereas on December 11, 2013, despite President Yanukovych’s statement the previous day that he would engage in talks with the opposition, police attempted to forcibly evict peaceful protesters from central locations in Kyiv; and
Whereas United States, European, and other leaders, as well as 3 former presidents of Ukraine, have urged restraint and warned against the use of violence against peaceful protesters, and have called for dialogue with the opposition to resolve the current political and economic crisis: Now, therefore, be it
That the House of Representatives—
(1)
greatly values the warm and close relationship the United States has established with Ukraine since that country regained its independence in 1991;
(2)
supports the democratic and European aspirations of the people of Ukraine, and their right to choose their own future free of intimidation and fear;
(3)
calls on the United States and the European Union to continue to work together to support a peaceful resolution to the crisis, and to continue to support the desire of millions of Ukrainian citizens for closer relations with Europe through the signing of an Association Agreement, as well as for a democratic future;
(4)
urges the Government of Ukraine, Ukrainian opposition parties, and all protesters to exercise the utmost restraint and avoid confrontation, and calls on the Government of Ukraine to live up to its international obligations and respect and uphold the democratic rights of its citizens, including the freedom of assembly and expression, as well as the freedom of the press;
(5)
calls on the Government of Ukraine to bring to justice those responsible for violence against peaceful protesters, and to release and drop criminal charges against those detained for exercising their democratic rights;
(6)
urges the United States and the European Union to continue to make clear to Ukraine’s leaders that those who authorize or engage in violence against peaceful protesters will be held personally accountable;
(7)
states that in the event of further violence by government authorities against peaceful protesters, the United States House of Representatives may consider targeted sanctions against those who authorize or engage in this use of force; and
(8)
urges all parties to engage in constructive, sustained dialogue in order to find a peaceful solution to Ukraine’s current political and economic crisis.
WhiteFeather
11th February 2014, 01:35
When are these idiots gonna wake the F..k up. America is broke and may be filing for bankruptcy very soon. Mother Earth is growing very tired and so are we of our corrupted corporate assclown leaders whom all need to be rounded up and arrested fortwith and thereby hung live on all lame stream news networks at primetime. Enough already! Ill have my popcorn in hand and ready for the hangings. I cant wait!!!!!!
Peace
W.f.
Harley
11th February 2014, 01:37
NOT a Declaration of War
states that in the event of further violence by government authorities against peaceful protesters, the United States House of Representatives may consider targeted sanctions against those who authorize or engage in this use of force; and
(8)
Octavusprime
11th February 2014, 01:44
It sounds like a warning shot being fired at Russia and the Ukrainian government. Any force will be met with force. If the citizens of the US were rioting in the streets, burning tires and throwing maltov cocktails at riot police, do you think the US police would show restraint? That is a serious question because I watched the Kiev riots in detail and was thinking the whole time "If this happened here in the US, heads would roll.". I was surprised the whole thing didn't go down much much worse. Perhaps I'm being overly skeptical...
Tesseract
11th February 2014, 01:57
Meanwhile in the Fourth Reich 17 people who protested against killing people with drones have been sent to jail:
http://upstatedroneaction.org/
And prosecutors have tried to send 3 people to jail for 40 years on terrorism charges; simply for being in possession of components that could be used to make molotov cocktails. They didn't even burn anything..
They were charged with:
material support for terrorism, conspiracy to commit terrorism, possession of an incendiary device (four counts), conspiracy to commit arson, solicitation to commit arson, attempted arson, and unlawful use of a weapon (two counts).
Thankfully a jury found them guilty of lesser charges, but they may be sent to prison for a long time.
And, according to the MSM they DO belong in prison: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-nato3-convict-edit-20140210,0,5540770.story
Meanwhile in Ukraine, the Fourth Reich is defending these people as exercising their democratic rights:
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24891
So, why charge people in the Fourth Reich with terrorism and attempt to imprison them for 40 years for just thinking about this, but cheer it on in Ukraine? No mention of those who didn't support the EU deal, no mention of all the concessions made by the government!! Can you imagine the president of the Fourth Reich sacking the secretary of state because some people protested? It would never happen. The government would never be as generous as the Ukrainian government has been.
Octavusprime
11th February 2014, 02:15
Well put Tesseract. It is amazing how hypocritical the US government is about what it says vs how it acts.
toad
11th February 2014, 02:46
http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th/house-resolution/447\
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Far from a declaration of war. Please stray away from sensationalism, the same tricks the media plays.
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