Has any one any idea what this piece of made/designed metal might be

[Sunny-side-up]

Now this is a very-long-shot but!

Has any one any idea what this piece of made/designed metal might be, what it might be from?

http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/Alanshots/library/The%20Object?sort=3&page=1
The images don't do it justice sorry :(

I found it in a large well manicured sloping open grass field adjacent to playing fields
It just seems so strange to see it sitting there on the grass in a totally clean field?

So that's the general area where I found the metal object?

Longest dimension of 1 and a half inches.
Weight 147 grams
It is heavy like Lead.
It is harder than Lead.
It has slight bluish lustre in areas.
It's not magnetic or attracted to a magnet.
If it was a long bar it would have had a uneven 6 sided symmetry to it (Along it's length)
The widest side seems to have ridge lines that would have run along it's length.
It looks like it has been chomped/cut into this smaller piece with slight squashed aspect.
It also looks like it has been subject to heat

It is because of it being all on it's own, no other rubbish anywhere near it and no holes in the ground that I could find that makes it so interesting.
This is why I'm asking for any ID help.



So as I said 'A very long Shot' but anyone recognise it or have any idea what this might be?

Any ideas ? :)

Love and Hugs
Alan

PS:

(Now I'm not saying this is relevant to this metal object but this area/field has been a place over the years where I have had most of my remembered Paranormal events/sightings!

This area is also connected to my recently posted soundings where I heard very fast over head hi-pitched sounds, like a very, very fast craft, zipping over. No engine sounds only a very clean and short zip as it sliced through the air!
A craft even though it was a clear blue sky with wide/distant horizon views I could see no sign of the craft, even after 3 sound events from different directions still no view?

This area is where I had my best and biggest low flying/gliding UFO sighting and experience of lost time.
It was a Giant Blimp shaped craft, no visible windows, no engines, wings or fins! and I can only describe it's image as that of the skin/color changing effect of a pulsating cuttlefish, very beautiful, very colorful and totally mesmerizing to me and my friend,
It was coming slowly and surely towards and so over us but! that's all we remember because my next memory is that of being at home, no memory of walking home at-all ?)

[Nasu]

To my eye it looks like spill or a left over from casting. It's tricky to tell just from the pictures, but to my eye it looks to be a mixture of lead and tin. Could someone have been casting in the park? The fumes from a mixture such as tin and lead are poisonous, so improvised casting should always be done outside with a good wind. After walking some ways from the casting site, they thought better of that interesting big of slag and tossed it?

With the evedence on hand, that would be my guess and two cents worth. Would love to hear if you get to the bottom of it, good luck on your quest... N

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Looks like a vertebrae to me but then again it could be a bottle top ..

I would try cutting a small segment and heating it in a metal dish to see what temp it melts at.

Be careful it may let of gasses as it melts.

N

[Realeyes]

Hi Sunny-side-up,
How big is the file size to your photo? I know I have exceptionally slow broadband, but it has been 5 minutes and I still do not have a photo image loading on my page from photobucket - is this normal?
Anyway, without seeing the image, your description sounds curious. I hope you get some answers. Thank you for sharing.

[spiritguide]

Might be space debris, looks like a metal composite subject to heat. Spark test it. Most metallurgical books have examples of spark tests.

Peace!

[sirdipswitch]

I'm with spiritguide on this on. Sace junk. Falls all the time and some of it even hits the ground. yep.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

OMG, Terminator vertebrae, maybe Arnie wants its back and there's a finders fee;).


Be careful it may let of gasses as it melts.

Space Burrito?

[Sunny-side-up]

Nasu thanks but absolutely no signs of fire or casting anywhere near this vast field! and no signs of smoke or soot on ti either, just slightly melted edges.

Nanoo Nanoo

Looks like a vertebrae to me but then again it could be a bottle top ..

I would try cutting a small segment and heating it in a metal dish to see what temp it melts at.

Be careful it may let of gasses as it melts.

N

Yeah that's what the overall shape made me think of, A Vertebrae!

spiritguide yup was thinking space debris but couldn't find any pitting or holes in the ground and no mud/soil on the metal?
And thanks will try Spark testing it when I find out how :)

778 neighbour of some guy , 'Terminator vertebrae' OMG for sure, we all know how that story pans out ha! :(

Hi Realeyes here are 2 of the pic's
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/The%20Object/OBJ3.jpg (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/Alanshots/media/The%20Object/OBJ3.jpg.html)

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/The%20Object/OBJ4.jpg (http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/Alanshots/media/The%20Object/OBJ4.jpg.html)

Thanks for all your replys and sujestions everyone, ill post more if I find out anything.

OMG Just thinking hope it's not Radioactive DOH unless it's a healthy level, might make a cool but heavy medallion ( Make TargeT jealous :) hehe

Any home made tests for finding out?

[Fellow Aspirant]

My vote is for a discarded tractor part, probably a steering knuckle. They take a lot of abuse, and are prone to failure under heavy load. Farmers don't keep broken stuff - if it was a "field-repair" it would have been tossed aside and buried with the next ploughing. It can take decades for the frost/freeze cycle to unearth these kinds of things, and by then they are in pretty tough shape. That's my vote, anyway.

B.

[Tesseract]

Interesting find.


Weigh it as accurately as you can, then measure its volume by placing it in some water. From this you can get the density in g/mL of the object. Once you have that (if you can do it accurately) you can immediately exclude a whole bunch of elements and alloys.

To me in that one photo where you can see the lustre, it looks like silver or a precious metal alloy such as osmiridium (osmium-iridium alloy), although that is normally more silvery. This would also agree with your estimate of the density being like lead. If your density estimate is really correct, there are not many possibilities apart from precious metals. Below I list all elements heavier than lead (and silver which is just above lead). I highlight the likely suspects.




Silver 10.501
Lead 11.342
Ununquadium >11.342
Technetium 11.50
Thorium 11.72
Thallium 11.85
Ununtrium >11.85
Palladium 12.020
Ruthenium 12.37
Rhodium 12.41
Hafnium 13.31
Einsteinium 13.5 (Estimate)
Curium 13.51
Mercury 13.5336
Ununbium >13.5336
Americium 13.69
Berkelium 14.79
Californium 15.10
Protactinium 15.37
Tantalum 16.654
Rutherfordium 18.1
Uranium 18.95
Tungsten 19.25
Gold 19.282
Roentgenium >19.282
Plutonium 19.84
Neptunium 20.25
Rhenium 21.02
Platinum 21.46
Darmstadtium >21.46
Osmium 22.610 [Toxic!!!]
Iridium 22.650

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Fellow Aspirant thanks for reply, only vehicle seen in that field has been a small Grass cutter! I don't think it was part of that machine or any machine like that type.

WoW Tesseract interesting list, thanks.

Here as you suggested is my rough calculation

Rough (But near) Liquid displacement measurement of 12.5 ml
Accurate Weight 147 Grams

Is this right calculation?
12.5 X 147 = 1837.5 Hmm!

It looks between these 2 metals:
Rutherfordium 18.1
????
Uranium 18.95 (Hmm! mixed hopes for it to turn out to be this metal)

And if it is well! I've been handling it quite a bit Doh!

Until further testing I will store the Object out side and place it near the Leaves of a healthy plant and start compairing said plant to a healthy identical plant clone..

Below 2 new images of the object washed, showing more of a Bluish Luster!

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/The%20Object/DSCF0936.jpg

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/The%20Object/DSCF0938.jpg

The Blue color seems to be mainly inside a possible outer casing! so might even been 2 metal combination?

[panopticon]

Density = mass divided by volume.

Density = 147 grams / 12.5 ml = 11.76 g/ml (or g/cm^3).

According to Tesseract's table that puts it near Thorium & Thallium though you'd need to check the liquid displacement volume for accuracy (doesn't sound like you were very confident about that). It might be closer to 13 ml displacement making it more likely to be Lead slag than Thorium.

I don't think that density works for complex combinations (eg alloys) does it? I'm pretty sure density only works as a means of identification if it's only one metal.

Another density table available here:
http://www.repairengineering.com/density.html

-- Pan

[DeDukshyn]

I can tell by the shape that it appears it has been twisted apart. It was likely a much longer piece at one point. So I might go with some old leftover broken mechanical part from some machinery.

Keep us posted :)

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Density = mass divided by volume.

Density = 147 grams / 12.5 ml = 11.76 g/ml (or g/cm^3).

According to Tesseract's table that puts it near Thorium & Thallium though you'd need to check the liquid displacement volume for accuracy (doesn't sound like you were very confident about that). It might be closer to 13 ml displacement making it more likely to be Lead slag than Thorium.

I don't think that density works for complex combinations (eg alloys) does it? I'm pretty sure density only works as a means of identification if it's only one metal.

Another density table available here:
http://www.repairengineering.com/density.html

-- Pan

It is more than likely an alloy, thus we need a chart of alloy density as well.

[Hazel]

I tend to agree with Nasu.. I was a sculpture student back in the day and it looks very much like the casting/smelting 'cast-offs' to be had from the process. I picked up and kept a few pieces like yours, as they do have intriguing amorphous qualities.


To my eye it looks like spill or a left over from casting. It's tricky to tell just from the pictures, but to my eye it looks to be a mixture of lead and tin. Could someone have been casting in the park? The fumes from a mixture such as tin and lead are poisonous, so improvised casting should always be done outside with a good wind. After walking some ways from the casting site, they thought better of that interesting big of slag and tossed it?

With the evedence on hand, that would be my guess and two cents worth. Would love to hear if you get to the bottom of it, good luck on your quest... N

[Tesseract]

I think that narrows it down:

I now lean away from the machinery part theory due to the high density (if the measurements are accurate) and its appearance of having been subjected to an extreme temperature.

The density is also too high for it to be a meteorite (at least as we know them).


I think that even if this is an alloy, including a slag sample, it needs to be based on a fairly heavy metal. My number one pick at this point is lead since it is so common, followed by silver. A lead alloy could be much harder than normal lead. Some heavy alloys include:

Lead rich Pewter: I think still not heavy enough to match your sample
nickel-silver: Still probably not heavy enough
Lead-antimony (ammunition): would be very close