Military source: some humans are being voluntarily relocated to a Pandora-like planet round Alpha Centauri

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear All:

I read this more-than-fascinating report by author and researcher Ed Komarek a little while back, and so much rang true for me that I nearly jumped out of my chair. I've been pondering it ever since.

I recently dug it up again, and had exactly the same inner reaction.

Read with great interest. Do note the following:


This report came BEFORE James Cameron's AVATAR was released (which also depicts a richly forested moon of a gas giant planet orbiting Alpha Centauri).



Simon Parkes' account (in his recent Avalon Interview) of the Nordics/Pleiadians sometimes being warlike is confirmed.



Henry Deacon's accounts (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html) of
a) the wormhole to Mars (through which he traveled),
b) that some ETs like to eat humans (i.e. us!), and
c) the existence of inhabited planets in the Alpha Centauri system, are also confirmed.
d) So is his personal rough estimate that there were over 40 ET species that we knew of, and
e) the name SOLAR WARDEN (which was originally confirmed by Henry).



The description of the appearance of human-grey hybrids are consistent with what's been reported elsewhere.


From http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/2011/01/mj-12-af-generals-stepson-talks-et-by.html

(PDF here: http://projectavalon.net/Ed_Komarek_Alpha_Centauri.pdf)

(text below very slightly edited to remove obvious typos)







A friend of mine, Jeff Adams, struck up a conversation with a individual involved in the patriot community and pretty soon they got to talking about UFO/ETs. Jeff knows the guy's real name but obviously does not want it spread around. The following email conversations were from a few months ago before AVATAR came out. I only published bits and pieces of this in other articles in the past for fear of getting this individual in trouble and ending the conversation prematurely.

Jeff said go ahead and put this all out as both he and this individual have moved on to other interests. I see no reason to expect this individual was lying to Jeff and most likely did not realize that this information would become public. There is some good stuff here that hopefully others can collaborate in this email exchange. Jeff also talked to this person by phone.

To Jeff:
I could tell you some stuff that would curl your hair, and make you go HUH? A lot of it borders on sci-fi and the unbelievable. What is it you want to know? When we actually put a man on the moon? Our moon-base (yes we have one) Experimental aircraft, or where our tech really has led us? Let me know, and I can tell you what I know! Plus the fact that my step-dad worked for NASA, as well as my brother and cousin (both of whom are a-nauts)

Don't like the AR-15 myself. Would rather have an AK. Or an M1A (M-14 clone), G-3 or FN. And a good 45 auto or 9mm. to back it up. A scope mounted long range shooter is also good. And lots of ammo and spare parts, scattered over a wide area. Food for at least a week, and med supplies (and the knowledge of how to use it). Store stuff, here and there, so if you get cut off from resupply, you can still get to it.

To Jeff:
Here's a condensed version of my step-dads report: In August of 1982 a family of 8 was reported missing from their small farm north of Mora, Sweden [this is near lake Siljan, in the middle of the country]. The family consisted of a father, mother, 4 children (2 boys, 2 girls) an uncle and a grandfather. Ages of the children was between 8 and 14. The family was reported missing after the father and uncle failed to show up for work on Monday at a local knife factory [Mora Knife Works]. No signs of a struggle were seen in the home, however the following odd things were noted: family pictures were missing from their frames, clothing was missing, closets were empty, tools were missing from a shed, livestock and pets were missing, hunting weapons were gone, and a family Bible was missing [every good Swedish family has a family Bible].

All three men were in the same home-guard unit. All of their weapons and uniforms were missing. There was no history of mental illness. No history of child/sexual abuse. No history of drug/excess alcohol use. Money was found in bank accounts. The family was not in serious debt. NATO HQ North in Brussels was contacted when several odd depressions and burn marks were noted in a field in the back of the house. LT.GEN 'L' [my step-dad] and a team were dispatched to investigate.

They were shown several depressions in the ground located midway between the house and the back edge of the property. These depressions formed a circle 48 meters across. It consisted of 8 'holes', 4 small, 4 large, forming the circle. The large ones were 1 meter across, the small ones .75 meters across. The holes were evenly spaced and alternated, big, small, big, and etc. The inside of the holes were burned to ash, and were irradiated. In the center of the circle was an area of smashed vegetation twisted in a clockwise manner [like a crop circle]. It was not irradiated, but emitted large amounts of EME [electro-magnetic energy].

The family has yet to be found. My step-dads last notation was in August 2002, so he was following up on the case. His last notation was: "I must assume from the evidence and the lack of bodies or body parts,that the family in question has departed this planet on a voluntary basis for places or parts unknown."

This is where I come in. In 1989, and again 1999, I visited the site. On both trips I noted that grass still would not grow in the hole, even though the hole were filled in. Bugs would not enter the circle, which was OK for the new owner, who said "once you get past the tingly sensation on the back of your neck, it's a great place to sit and read!" If you went into the circle, you got the sensation that you get from sticking a wet hand in a light socket! And this was 7 and 17 years after the fact! My conclusion? Same as my step-dads.

To Jeff:
Just got off with some friends in the know. Here is what they had to add. They also told me what to look for -- (deleted for security reasons) -- There are 7 major and 57 minor alien races in our section of the universe. If we expand to include our galaxy, the number rises to 11 and 124. So much for the 'no life in the rest of the universe' theory!! LOL :)

I make a study of transplanted colonies, so I'll drive in that direction for a while. The nearest human colony not on earth is in the trinary star system of Alpha Centauri. The colony is, I have been told, on a moon of the 4th. planet. Imagine Endor w/o the Ewoks. The colony has been there for years (i.e. 1970's) and was seeded by people from Earth by the Nordics. These people are what I call 'choice primitives', that is, they live at a tech level that is lower then their home planet, by choice. They live, I am told at a level equal to Earth ca.1940. Think 'The Village' with airmail! LOL The colony is aware of ET's and spacecraft, and interact with them for trade purposes. They are an agricultural and forestry producing planet (that's a duh).

Don't know the population, but I would assume that it is small. Most are, I would assume, from Europe and North America.The Nordics and the Greys had an alliance which fell apart at this same time. The Nordics, who can be quite warlike when they want to be, opened up a can of whoopass on the Greys, and the war cost the Greys a lot of ground. The Greys were apparently using the Nordics for their own purposes, and the Nordics were not amused. The US/EU/UN still works with the Greys, so we all know where this going to end.

It would appear that the Nordics and their friends are the only allies we have out there. The rest want us as slave labor, breeding material, or food. Yes, there are aliens that eat people. There are, I have been told, several other colonies out there, within 'shouting distance' of Earth. I for one have no problem in believing this, and have been studying it for years.

Apparently,the colonies are arranged by race (whites are NOT the only race that the Nordics deal with), and then by language. So if, you were a white English speaking guy you would be put with your own kind. The tech level is kept low on purpose. One, low tech worlds don't attract attention to passers by. Two, they (both the Nordics and the colonists) don't want to wind up in the same place we are now. Makes sense to me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think the Nordics are going to come down and save us all! Far from it. I think they are very selective in who they choose. And, they don't appear to take large groups. One or two people at a time. Although I have heard rumors that have taken families of up to 8!

About their ships. The N's ( I'm getting tired of spelling out the word) use the 'classic' flying saucer, and have for years. They also use the triangle shaped ships as well. Difference is, the triangles are armed. Their answer to an PT boat or Sub-chaser. They are used as AMC's as well. AMC = Armed Merchant Cruiser or Carrier. Those big triangles in AZ a few years back? Our buds the N's. And guess what they wanted? Sand. Yes, sand. Sand, salt, lead and water are the 4 biggest trade items in the 'verse!! The saucers are more benign. But they don't seem to using them much anymore. See more triangles now.

Billy Myer or Mayer. You should read up on him. Guy had one arm and lived in Switzerland back in the 60's and 70's. Everyone thought he was a nut. He had contact of the 4th kind with the N's. I guess it would not be an abduction if you left voluntarily, huh? HMM :) More on leaving this place next time.

To Jeff:
I took the opposite approach and went low key. My step-father was a more then one star general in the USAF, and even my men in the guard don't know it. Well, maybe one or two, along with the AG, who happened to know my dad from back in Vietnam. I really don't want folks to know who I am, or how well trained I and my men really are. To put in on the table, I have served in two navies and four armies, been to 36 countries, all 50 states, and all the provinces in Canada. I worked for the JPL and NASA, so I know how the bastards work. It's just trying to figure out how to defeat them that I am having a problem with. (Patriot conversation omitted)

To Jeff:
Some notes on Alpha Centauri: The primary star of AC is only a little bigger then our sun. A gas giant could circle it and still have a moon that supported life. The main planet would be about 3-4 AU's away from AC1, or about double the distance that Mars is from the Sun. The moon would have to be 750k to 1m miles from the planet, or about 4 times the distance from Earth to the moon. A year would be about 1.5 earth years long. AC2 sits at a distance of 22 AU's, give or take, and would not give off a lot of radiation or light.

When the moon was facing it,it would be equal to a full moon an a clear night on Earth. That noted, the 'sun' would always be shining, as the moon would be facing one or the other all the time. AC3 sits at a distance of .14 LY, and is too small to matter much. Assuming the moon is Mars or Earth sized, the gravity level would be about normal.

Since the N's are from a thin air, lower gravity world, one would assume that they don't spend much time on the moon, which I am guessing is very Earth like. Since it is supposed to be forested, by trees of great size, one could also assume that it has animal life of great size as well. Just thought I would throw this past you!

To Jeff:
The tall greys are the most prominent group that we are interacting with. They made contact in the 1930's and have been working with us hand in hand since the late 40's. The triangle ships are operated by the Nordics. They come, I am told, from a star cluster in the Seven Sisters/Pleaides Group. The wormholes use huge amounts of energy, and when operated from earth, tend to draw attention. You can only keep them 'fired up' for short periods of time before they break down. Also, wormhole generators work best away from a gravity well such as Earth.

Now, mind you, I am a Marine Engineer by trade, so some of this is guess work, or what I have been told. Or common sense! Questions are how you gain info. No? no info!! :) My step-father was connected to MJ-12, so I'm not worried. At most I will get yelled at and called a nut. 'Course they say that about Hoagland and Lear as well!

Have never met a grey. Met Nordics, or people that I though were Nordics. They seem to be on the good guy's side in the war down here, and have a strong distaste for the greys! There is rumor of grey/human hybrids. I have seen video and pics, but have never met one. Sad, but the video of the hybrid that I saw was, well, kinda cute (it was a female). Very thin with almost asian features and long dark hair, grey eyes and a small face. If you saw her on the street, you would think that she was a young asian schoolgirl who didn't eat much! Scary!!

To Jeff:
The base on Mars is the other end of the wormhole. They don't like to send people through it though. People are send by STL [slower-than-light] ships, so yes one could conclude that OSW (Office of Solar Warden) is involved!

Nordic society is well, Nordic society. Imagine what the Vikings would have become had they not been hit by the black death and the dark ages. No, they spoke to me, although I am sure they are telepathic, they preferred to speak to me. They enjoy being around 'people of their kind', that is well, folks from a Scandinavian or European background. Simple logic there I guess.

Some of their ships are huge, being over 300 meters in length. Never been on one, but would sure like to. The Nordics appear to be galactic babysitters. But since most people are in denial, they ignore most people. Folks that are multilingual, real well trained in any field of the military or sciences, can expect a visit. Hell, they may have visited you, and you didn't know it!!

Not all of them are tall. The ones I have seen look quite normal and varied from human standards, although I have never seen a fat one! LOL :) Don't know much of the planets they call home, except that they are a long way from here, and that they have FTL drives on there ships that 'fold' space and that they like strawberry ice cream and stormy weather!

I suspect that the Nordics may have been responsible for the disappearance of the Norse colonies on Greenland and of the ones in the US. FYI the Norse made it as far west as WA state and had a colony in OK. Also had folks in OH, MN and WI, a long time before Columbus got lost. They may have had a colony in BC as well. Still working on that one. Remember that the NW passage was open then, so one could, if they were really brave, sail it around AK to BC. The colonies were isolated and the Nordics needed, um well, genetic material, and so they came and got them. The Norse would have thought they were Gods and gone right along. Well, gonna go!

[ghostrider]

it is said this has happened six times , six extinctions ... ET takes some building blocks of life elsewhere, let the planet heal and then re-seed it again ... cultures lose knowledge of their ancestory and we know history is very controlled ...hiding the reason for seeding life , and the new peoples discover ancient civilizations gone but their huge stone cities remain a mystery, how did they build that ??? they were not primitive at all ... everything we have now , we had before , six times ...

[S-L]

Fascinating. Interesting comments about the Nordics and Grays. I think it's worthwhile to consider the possibility that neither groups are working in our best interest. The situation may be analogous to the era of colonization when technologically superior European powers competed for power and influence in foreign lands. One power might have sided with a foreign tribe or group over another European power, but that certainly wouldn't make them the "good guys". They're still acting out of self-interest.

I fiercely support the Human Sovereignty Movement (http://humansovereignty.org/). We should only make agreements with extraterrestrials in an open, transparent and democratic way.

[King Arthur]

I am a newbie here so I haven't seen a lot of what has been posted.
If this has not be mentioned before, then I'd like to suggest that those people might have been abducted as a batch consignment - to be slave labour for the breakaway civilisation
http://www.conspiracyhq.com/mysterious-disappearences-national-parks-break-away-civilization-evidence-batch-consignments/

[WhiteFeather]

Interesting and thanks for sharing with us Bill.
And If i may ask you this Bill. Do you yourself believe that the Billy Myer visitations in fact were truly authentic? There are some whom have a great disbelief of that story. I myself do believe it was authentic.

"Billy Myer or Mayer. You should read up on him. Guy had one arm and lived in Switzerland back in the 60's and 70's. Everyone thought he was a nut. He had contact of the 4th kind with the N's. I guess it would not be an abduction if you left voluntarily, huh? HMM More on leaving this place next time."

[observer]

My sole purpose for posting on this website is to show the evidence that this particular reality is a feeding operation for a race of hyperdimensional entities.

With every comment I make, I attempt to show the evidence of such.

This information that Bill has released, goes further to document what I suggest is an hyperdimensional farming operation.

It has been going-on since the Dawn of Man. As soon as Humanity begins to figure it all out, the entire operation is 'plowed-under' and begun again.

They are very clever at what they do....

[superconsciousness]

Saw a giant pyramid ship @ 29 Palms above the Air Force base with a bunch of jets scrambling around it like flies in October 2006. Have dealt with the Grays and interacted with the Nordics. At every time I was accompanied by others who also witnessed same phenomena with slight fluctuations. The evidence of others is so overwhelming that it's like the Emperor Has No Clothes.

This is a good piece on "Willful Blindness" and how to deal with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsPIfQLvdl8#t=328

How Willful Blindness Keeps Everyone Living a Lie | Interview with Margaret Abby Martin speaks with Margaret Heffernan, entrepreneur and author of the upcoming book 'A Bigger Prize' about how the notion of willful blindness inhibits ...

[Gardener]

This information doesn't have the BS factor instantly apparent in some exopolitics material, it is very articulate, though it does invite further enquiry.
Just to be 'devil's advocate' for a minute...
This is a one sided coversation between Mr/s Annon and Jeff Adams, which is relayed to us by Ed Komorak, we get to read the reply as received to questions by Jeff A, from Mr/s Annon. No matter I expect we are to intuit the question from the answer given/reply, a manouvre the human mind is good at, filling the gap to make sense.

What strikes me in the majority of 'anon witness' statements is the possiblity of this information coming down the line from other information already out there, feeding an agenda of thought manipulation, manufacturing consensus within the exo community. For instance there is a reference to strawberry ice cream, now I heard that somewhere else recently...did anyone remember hearing that.

It's very easy to get taken in by a report which fits what is already in ones mind, as a form of reinforcement, a kind of cognitive bias, and passing that on to another with similar questioning keyholes as a path to completion and meaning.

Anyway not discounting it yet, because I just don't know, trying to stay objective in the face of no personal evidence whatsoever

Who is Jeff Adams? Is it the Jeffrey Michael Adams that worked on Avatar and other films?
Creative scripting ideas maybe?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

My sole purpose for posting on this website is to show the evidence that this particular reality is a feeding operation for a race of hyperdimensional entities.

;)Mwah, unpleasant as this may be for us, it might also be just as unpleasant for those hyper dimensional entities, the food chain never ends, there's always a bigger fish:rolleyes:

So who is benefitting the most by us eating organic food, we or our hitchhikers/hijackers, that's a fun thought to entertain for us humans:o

WAuBX666PaQ

[Gardener]

This is pretty much my experience too observer, ALL experience for me has been inter/hyperdimensional, and despite looking and being open to seeing in the objective reality, it has not happened. We are food until we get the baggage cleared and learn how not to be.


My sole purpose for posting on this website is to show the evidence that this particular reality is a feeding operation for a race of hyperdimensional entities.

With every comment I make, I attempt to show the evidence of such.

This information that Bill has released, goes further to document what I suggest is an hyperdimensional farming operation.

It has been going-on since the Dawn of Man. As soon as Humanity begins to figure it all out, the entire operation is 'plowed-under' and begun again.

They are very clever at what they do....

[Lifebringer]

Ghostrider and Bill, the book I've written and have such a tough time pulling together the way it's supposed to be printed out, is exactly, and I mean exactly what I was told to write down for Season Of The Witnesses 7 long years ago. Late 2006, I've been adding whenever the information came in after meditation and asking when can I start back. I was anxious to complete it, but there was always, more to be written at different times. However, what you've spoken on, the two of you, has nailed SOTW to a "t."

Just to give you a hint, there are 3 of them, and number 2 is called Exodust, I think I told Sunnygirl about it a few years back, when I wanted her to check it out, but I was told back in Nov 2013, not to write anymore, put together what I have, and wait. So, I wait again to finish what was started in 2006. I'll sure be glad/joyous when it's finished.

Nice to know, my inner voice is telling the truth, and not some parasite with psychic mind reading ability trying to run me in circles in the search.

Thank you guys, and God speed on your quests.

PS Third book is Return of the Witnesses. I guess judging by what's been written, that "we" are the witnesses.:wizard:
Just saying there has to have been "other remnant/witnesses" from the other 6 end times/beginning times, eh? Perhaps we are.

[guyres]

Most peoples are benevolents, fear is a question, life is fractal like, repeating itself in a infinite balance.
What transpire from this post is a question bringing is own answer, and it's look bad.
Ho my brothers as above so below, here (and not now) the thruth is almost everytime blinded under fear.
I was everywhere and everytime, people are good in a large majority, in the other hand there is some who use fear as a weapon.
Thank for this thread, a good mixe of more truth than false.

[pugwash84]

I wouldn't want to judge any ET , Sometimes when I read these things in my mind it does not look good and I have to remind myself it could go either way, they will want to eat us or pillage us or they wont. I am just going to keep an open mind with ET's just as I would with humans. Other times I think, if they was going to wipe out the human race or take all our resources then they would have done it whilst we was in more of a primative stage.
I've always been quite interested in hybrids and I have heard a lot about hybrids and some people say the greys are trying to hybridise the human race and that this will be the next stage in human evolution. Others say that the greys cannot reproduce and that this will save their race.
I can very well understand why aliens would like strawberry ice-cream, I do not know anyone who doesn't like it. It must be a universal favorite xxxxx

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Bill, why do you do this to me ! Now i cant stop reading , arrrgh

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[Agape]

I would go to check that Planet first of all ... then say :) A pity they're not technologically supported there so they can't send a postcard ..

As none of the physical properties of habitable planets are completely one like another , lets hope these have lesser gravity than Earth , enables 'floating around' and smoother spiritual evolution .

I can well imagine that those who get picked up to live there are not necessarily those who think they're the best for such endeavour . Recently , when the human Mars program was announced http://www.mars-one.com/mission,

more than million people signed up .. well, lets not slain this as funds collecting campaign because that's what it is .. the Mars One Mission is lacking money , not people who would want to live out there even with the view of 'never come back'.

So I'm just saying is it really surprising if they choose healthy farmers family from Sweden rather than some overstressed official from Washington D.C. ;) or one of the iPad addicts who can't survive in nature anymore .

Is it an experiment ....

:pray:

[778 neighbour of some guy]

As none of the physical properties of habitable planets are completely one like another , lets hope these have lesser gravity than Earth , enables 'floating around' and smoother spiritual evolution

Heehee, with less gravity we would have less bone density, maybe we'll become very enlightened squid/jellyblobby things, come to think of it, how about our own squid and jellyfish, whats the news on them as of late?;)

[pugwash84]

somebody who is more active and not on an i pad or stuck on technology is probably more healthier.

[Agape]

As none of the physical properties of habitable planets are completely one like another , lets hope these have lesser gravity than Earth , enables 'floating around' and smoother spiritual evolution

Heehee, with less gravity we would have less bone density, maybe we'll become very enlightened squid/jellyblobby things, come to think of it, how about our own squid and jellyfish, whats the news on them as of late?;)

Oh pity you know nothing about your own decent origins than what the jelly fish scientists told you .


;)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

As none of the physical properties of habitable planets are completely one like another , lets hope these have lesser gravity than Earth , enables 'floating around' and smoother spiritual evolution

Heehee, with less gravity we would have less bone density, maybe we'll become very enlightened squid/jellyblobby things, come to think of it, how about our own squid and jellyfish, whats the news on them as of late?;)



Oh pity you know nothing about your own decent origins than what the jelly fish scientists told you .


;)

Phew, who knows maybe I do, maybe I don't, but on my next run ( if I happened to get one) I'd like to become the below beauty;).

9KWJd12m_gY

[pugwash84]

I wont watch that jelly fish are too freaky *shudders* but I think gravity makes us all jelly eventually. Wrinkly extra skin and wobbly bits that used to be so toned in days gone by lololol xxxxx

[Camilo]

My sole purpose for posting on this website is to show the evidence that this particular reality is a feeding operation for a race of hyperdimensional entities.

With every comment I make, I attempt to show the evidence of such.

This information that Bill has released, goes further to document what I suggest is an hyperdimensional farming operation.

It has been going-on since the Dawn of Man. As soon as Humanity begins to figure it all out, the entire operation is 'plowed-under' and begun again.

They are very clever at what they do....

Totally agree with your assessment. This is a cosmic school and those guys are our teachers, and when we wake up and smell the coffee, we're able to graduate and move onto higher realities.

[Camilo]

Interesting and thanks for sharing with us Bill.
And If i may ask you this Bill. Do you yourself believe that the Billy Myer visitations in fact were truly authentic? There are some whom have a great disbelief of that story. I myself do believe it was authentic.

"Billy Myer or Mayer. You should read up on him. Guy had one arm and lived in Switzerland back in the 60's and 70's. Everyone thought he was a nut. He had contact of the 4th kind with the N's. I guess it would not be an abduction if you left voluntarily, huh? HMM More on leaving this place next time."

I believe Billy Meier's case is the most authentic one..

[Camilo]

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Dear All:

I read this more-than-fascinating report.....

Thanks Bill, good thread. If the material shared here is real, great, but if not, it makes a very interesting and entertaining reading anyway.

[Atlas]

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I found this strange text on Stephen Hagberg Blog (http://stefanhagberg.blogspot.com.au/2010_03_01_archive.html) (google translation):


Interpol will find the American police a student essay in criminology describing a strange disappearance in 1978 in a house between Sundsvall and Härnösand where an entire family disappeared without a trace along with a red SAAB 96 of the 1967 model. essay about the case is written by a detective on Swedish National Criminal Police named Mia Bengtsson. Mia gets to go over to the U.S. and South Drysdale to assist the American police and exploring the links to the model in the basement. Soon emerge FBI up and then a curious investigator from one of the U.S. intelligence services. Mia soon realizes that there are some common disappearances she is dealing with.

The year is 1978, 4 years before Ed Komarek's case and the location is 220 miles (350km) east of Mora...

Can someone translate Swedish ?

[Craig]

It reminds me of the second matrix movie but instead of grabbing a few people to reseed after the destruction of Zion they reseed another planet.

Sent from my iPad

[astridmari]

I read the blog in swedish and it seems to me that the blogger - a writer/journalist - is describing some sort of plot for a book or something. This is my translation so that you can judge for yourself.
The blogger is writing this the 15th of March 2010. He is travelling with google earth an ends up in South Drysdale, Minnesota.

“My story starts in South Drysdale, with barely 5000 habitants. In a cold October morning the police found a model of a town in the basement in a house there. An 80 square meter big model of a town. The owner of the house was nowhere to be found. Via Interpol the police found an essay written by a criminology student that describes another strange disappearance. In 1978 a whole family disappeared from their house somewhere between Härnösand and Sundsvall, together with their car, a Saab 96. Mia Bengtsson, now a detective inspector is invited to go to South Drysdale to assist in the inquiries. She soon finds out that FBI is involved in the case and also a strange investigator from one of the intelligence agencies pops up. She understands that this is not about any ordinary disappearances. But it is not only the police and the intelligence that are drawn to the little town. Two men are also found dead in a pond.”

Then the blogger goes on about that exciting things also occurs in real life and refers to things happening in Iraq, about some Iraqi minister being shot in the leg.

[chocolate]

My sole purpose for posting on this website is to show the evidence that this particular reality is a feeding operation for a race of hyperdimensional entities.

With every comment I make, I attempt to show the evidence of such.

This information that Bill has released, goes further to document what I suggest is an hyper-dimensional farming operation.

It has been going-on since the Dawn of Man. As soon as Humanity begins to figure it all out, the entire operation is 'plowed-under' and begun again.

They are very clever at what they do....

I have to politely! note that I personally completely disagree with this statement, but since words tend to be observed! depending on a subjective! reality, I will keep them to myself. For further explanation I can point to an 11 page thread where I found almost 0 proof that this statement is correct. And I will not go into further argument or debate on the matter. If anyone is interested in instating fear or demagogy, that should be kept as a side note, not a full-on statement.

I would like to post two videos, and my reasons are again my own. If you would like a more in-depth explanation you will have to ask Agape for that.

Beware, Hollywood subliminal messaging should be put aside.

eRPSMBDNBck

Pmw-aa1l2dc

This is a bit older than AVATAR, and I can put much comment in it, but I would rather leave everyone to get to a conclusion that he or she feels comfortable with.


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One should ask oneself the question who would benefit from instating images or ideas in the public mind at some significant points in time here.
Since I know we come from many places of this universe, returning to origin, I would assume, should be done in the original state of every single one of us, not in a human body constructed to operate on Earth.

I would love to go back home, but for the time being Earth is my home, and I would like it to be as beautiful as 'Pandora' is, but our own creation.

If we start delegating rights to anyone who comes around, than we need to go no further, we already have given all the power in quite incapable hands, and the results are very visible.

But if I believe it is done, I do.
And I also happened to be reading "The Eye of Ra".

I guess that would be considered a rant, so delete if not appropriate.

[Agape]

Phew, who knows maybe I do, maybe I don't, but on my next run ( if I happened to get one) I'd like to become the below beauty;).



Wow . Thank you ... yes I'm sure the density has to be about 'just right' .

Friend shared these with me some time ago .. the transparency and beauty is what reminds me of our previous biological form ( not the jelly thing though )

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/82969626_zps40e7b160.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/82969626_zps40e7b160.jpg.html)

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/SeaButterflyPteropod_001_zps6db669c9.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/SeaButterflyPteropod_001_zps6db669c9.jpg.html)

[Agape]

I wont watch that jelly fish are too freaky *shudders* but I think gravity makes us all jelly eventually. Wrinkly extra skin and wobbly bits that used to be so toned in days gone by lololol xxxxx

True - no gravity - no wrinkles - no wrinkle creams ...

;)

[Ammit]

Agape, please explain..... as if we did not understand the views, but, would love to hear your thoughts..

I appollogise as this sounded rather harsh. I respect your point of view Agape now and from time ago.

[Agape]

Agape, please explain..... as if we did not understand the views, but, would love to hear your thoughts..

You don't miss the views here really ... look at the ETs from Knowing the movie above, Chocolate has just posted and the sea butterfly ..

what I'm saying is that in our original habitat , millions of years ago , human ancestors lived as advanced humanoids with bodies that were about as subtle, beautiful and almost transparent . They were not 'jelly forms' though, more like dense plasmatic biological light .
In that home of ours, faraway in the Stars, further than what todays astronomers consider the range of visible Universe ( there are many 'bubbles of Universes' floating in much larger space ) ,

in Star system that was billions of their years old, with different frequency of light , gravity just about perfect so they walked their planet but never felt so heavy as we do here, these Beings were almost immortal , never aged and rarely got ill,
and did not get angry .


I actually hope that we'll be able to return there one day ...

Is that enough for explanation or do you have any specific questions ..

:angel:

[Ammit]

No specific questions my friend, you explained it the way I felt it to be.

Thank you

Don

[DNA]

The story about the family dissapearing ala alien relocation reminds me of the story "I visited Ganymede (http://www.amazon.com/I-Visited-Ganymede-Yosip-Ibrahim/dp/B00069X16K)", basically about a guy from Peru who gets a visitation and then a relocation himself to the moon Ganymede to a subturranean colony there.
A little interesting correlation to this story is that Billy Meier once stated there were two outposts of what he called an alien human race in our solar system, one was beneath the Pyramids at Giza, and the other was on Ganymede.

In the Ganymede book, these space folk state they are originally from "Marduk" or their descendents were from Marduk, this being what is now known as the asteroid belt.

[Atlas]

I read the blog in swedish and it seems to me that the blogger - a writer/journalist - is describing some sort of plot for a book or something. This is my translation so that you can judge for yourself.
The blogger is writing this the 15th of March 2010. He is travelling with google earth an ends up in South Drysdale, Minnesota.

“My story starts in South Drysdale, with barely 5000 habitants. In a cold October morning the police found a model of a town in the basement in a house there. An 80 square meter big model of a town. The owner of the house was nowhere to be found. Via Interpol the police found an essay written by a criminology student that describes another strange disappearance. In 1978 a whole family disappeared from their house somewhere between Härnösand and Sundsvall, together with their car, a Saab 96. Mia Bengtsson, now a detective inspector is invited to go to South Drysdale to assist in the inquiries. She soon finds out that FBI is involved in the case and also a strange investigator from one of the intelligence agencies pops up. She understands that this is not about any ordinary disappearances. But it is not only the police and the intelligence that are drawn to the little town. Two men are also found dead in a pond.”


Thank you astridmari!

Amazingly, there is another case of unexplained disappearance reported by Sydsvenskan.se (http://www.sydsvenskan.se/lund/fyra-olosta-forsvinnanden-i-lund-pa-40-ar/) the same month and the same year as Ed Komarek's case (700km south of Mora):


A father left his family in the morning. He drove away from the house near Lund August 24, 1982 and has not been seen since. The man drove the family's blue Passat and Sydsvenskan wrote "¿? Police hoped long to at least find it and get new tracks to search for." So never happened, neither the man or the car is recovered.

I wonder if there are other mysterious disappearances in Sweden that same year ?

[ghostrider]

Interesting and thanks for sharing with us Bill.
And If i may ask you this Bill. Do you yourself believe that the Billy Myer visitations in fact were truly authentic? There are some whom have a great disbelief of that story. I myself do believe it was authentic.

"Billy Myer or Mayer. You should read up on him. Guy had one arm and lived in Switzerland back in the 60's and 70's. Everyone thought he was a nut. He had contact of the 4th kind with the N's. I guess it would not be an abduction if you left voluntarily, huh? HMM More on leaving this place next time."

I believe Billy Meier's case is the most authentic one.. odd the UFO community ignores Edward and the plejaren completely , saying the clear daytime photos are too good to be true ...they left their star chart on cave walls , the seven sisters, the pleadies ... and for over 70 yrs meeting with Edward face to face , predicting future events on earth , still they are ignored today, it's been right in our faces, they re-incarnate in all the prophets of earth and spread the same message in every culture , no one makes the connection ... Budda , Mohamad , Immanuel , Ezekeil , Isaiah , Jeremiah , Henoch ( enoch) nokodemjon , the messge is the same ET's over and over , Love your neighbor , all life is sacred , live in balance with all things , it's the same message , played in every culture , form , time period , it comes from them , the plejaren ... they spread the laws of creation across the cosmos ...

[chocolate]

I hope jackovesk will forgive me if I cross post here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68524-UFO-CONGRESS-2014-Bob-Dean-Presents-US-Government-Disclosure-Refusal-on-UFOs&p=797874&viewfull=1#post797874
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And to answer the question: why I am posting it here?,
I guess one will have to hear what Bob Dean has to say this time around.
(Lots of answers inside. Not a proof that the military are taking people off planet per se, rather why they are doing it and where to look for some more clues.)

Cheers.

If anyone is interested in watching Wavelength (mentioned in Bill's post at the beginning of the thread), you can send me a message, and will send you the link.
For some reason, since this thread is publicly visible, don't feel like sharing with the whole (military) world.

[chocolate]

Observer, if you have anything important to tell me regarding my response here, please do it where it belongs.
I will not pay attention to hostile private messages. I did one exception, but not anymore.

I am expanding a little:
When you post an opinion you should be prepared to stand by it. Or are we all supposed to agree with everything you say? Because I am one you will have a difficult time with. I do stand by my post.
(Once I was gentle, and understanding, it didn't work. Now I will be straight forward, and make no mistake, I can measure to any man when it comes to explaining my point of view.)

Back to topic.

[Sunny-side-up]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPjXxKpM4DM

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Can I throw my 2 cents worth in here? From my experiences over the past 47 years within this business I'd like to state that many conspiracy nuts speak of the high volumes of missing children each year globally. They rant on about that they are used in insidious military and intel black programs etc. Some are, don't get me wrong, BUT the majority of these genuinely missing kids are taken to safer havens, much safer than this planet, in order to grow as they were destined by those whom seeded this planet initially. I'll stand by my words anyone whom wants to take up the challenge!

[Flash]

Can I throw my 2 cents worth in here? From my experiences over the past 47 years within this business I'd like to state that many conspiracy nuts speak of the high volumes of missing children each year globally. They rant on about that they are used in insidious military and intel black programs etc. Some are, don't get me wrong, BUT the majority of these genuinely missing kids are taken to safer havens, much safer than this planet, in order to grow as they were destined by those whom seeded this planet initially. I'll stand by my words anyone whom wants to take up the challenge!

Please do stand by your words Barry. Would you be kind enough to tell us more of what you know about this. As well as about hybrids. Thanks

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Hi Flash, I'll tell what I can and of course each and every one of you are free to disagree or yell or stomp feet. From the dealings I have had with various people 'in the know' but more importantly direct dealings with those I have close by me since my birth, the 'Elders' or 'Old Ones' whom have detailed to me why so many are being saved from this World of anguish harm and abuse, and placed into a safer warm loving, caring haven. I'll gladly continue this later as its nearing my bedtime. Hybrids I can mention too. Thankyou in advance for your kind patience.

[Sebastion]

I second what Flash has said. Barry, I would love to hear anything you have to say regarding this topic and will follow with very great interest!




Can I throw my 2 cents worth in here? From my experiences over the past 47 years within this business I'd like to state that many conspiracy nuts speak of the high volumes of missing children each year globally. They rant on about that they are used in insidious military and intel black programs etc. Some are, don't get me wrong, BUT the majority of these genuinely missing kids are taken to safer havens, much safer than this planet, in order to grow as they were destined by those whom seeded this planet initially. I'll stand by my words anyone whom wants to take up the challenge!

Please do stand by your words Barry. Would you be kind enough to tell us more of what you know about this. As well as about hybrids. Thanks

[Nick Matkin]

For instance there is a reference to strawberry ice cream, now I heard that somewhere else recently...did anyone remember hearing that?

Yes Gardener, I read it years ago in a Billy Meier book, so that 'info' has been doing the rounds for years and years. I remember at the time thinking: "How convenient these aliens like something familiar to most of the book's readers. How come they don't like some obscure (to Europeans) delicacy from Asia or Africa?"

I think the Meier book also describes the Nordics' planet as being 'like Switzerland' and even as a kid I thought: "What, ALL of the planet is like Switzerland, without geological or climatic variations?"

Mmm...

Nick

[Milneman]

Totally agree with your assessment. This is a cosmic school and those guys are our teachers, and when we wake up and smell the coffee, we're able to graduate and move onto higher realities.

We are all teachers one to the other. ;)

[Chester]

Fascinating. Interesting comments about the Nordics and Grays. I think it's worthwhile to consider the possibility that neither groups are working in our best interest. The situation may be analogous to the era of colonization when technologically superior European powers competed for power and influence in foreign lands. One power might have sided with a foreign tribe or group over another European power, but that certainly wouldn't make them the "good guys". They're still acting out of self-interest.

I fiercely support the Human Sovereignty Movement (http://humansovereignty.org/). We should only make agreements with extraterrestrials in an open, transparent and democratic way.

I wonder if Humans (as a collective) ever act in the interest of other species?

[Chester]

My sole purpose for posting on this website is to show the evidence that this particular reality is a feeding operation for a race of hyperdimensional entities.

;)Mwah, unpleasant as this may be for us, it might also be just as unpleasant for those hyper dimensional entities, the food chain never ends, there's always a bigger fish:rolleyes:

So who is benefitting the most by us eating organic food, we or our hitchhikers/hijackers, that's a fun thought to entertain for us humans:o

WAuBX666PaQ

If we look at the most repetitive characteristic of this physical universe, we see the fundamental dynamic of the consumer and the consumed. Even at the level of black holes that supposedly suck up all matter near it.

I recall Bill once hit me tight between the eyes with my own hypocrisy in the way I felt about Reptilians that eat Humans when most of us Humans eat all sorts of other creatures. I even went vegetarian soon after that. I lasted 35 days.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

No worries Chester, everyone is guilty, even vegetarians, plants are creatures too, ask a funny mushroom for confirmation.

sGl4btrsiHk

[observer]

Observer, if you have anything important to tell me regarding my response here, please do it where it belongs.
I will not pay attention to hostile private messages. I did one exception, but not anymore.

I am expanding a little:
When you post an opinion you should be prepared to stand by it. Or are we all supposed to agree with everything you say? Because I am one you will have a difficult time with. I do stand by my post.
(Once I was gentle, and understanding, it didn't work. Now I will be straight forward, and make no mistake, I can measure to any man when it comes to explaining my point of view.)

Back to topic.

I reply to this comment only to set the record straight.

I told chocolate in that private message that it could be posted anywhere, that I didn't consider the content private. Instead, chocolate chose to make a public statement referring to the message as "hostile".

I cross link a previous comment, #27 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68493-Military-source-some-humans-are-being-voluntarily-relocated-to-a-Pandora-like-planet-round-Alpha-Centauri&p=797684&viewfull=1#post797684) to another thread, as this entire discussion is off topic to this thread.

The cross link can be found here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56913-What-controls-the-hologram&p=801700&viewfull=1#post801700

[turiya]

Can I throw my 2 cents worth in here? From my experiences over the past 47 years within this business I'd like to state that many conspiracy nuts speak of the high volumes of missing children each year globally. They rant on about that they are used in insidious military and intel black programs etc. Some are, don't get me wrong, BUT the majority of these genuinely missing kids are taken to safer havens, much safer than this planet, in order to grow as they were destined by those whom seeded this planet initially. I'll stand by my words anyone whom wants to take up the challenge!

Jacques Vallee wrote:




"A friend who read this book [Messengers of Deception] in manuscript advised me not to publish it: “That’s not what America wants to hear,” he said. “America wants a big UFO that flies down from heaven, as in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, filled with new hopes for mankind; America wants a shiny spacecraft to replace the deflated balloon of its religious values. If UFOs are connected with unexplained mutilation of cattle and with behavior modification on a grand scale, America doesn’t want to know about it.”
Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallee (pages 21-22)


posted by turiya :cool:

[thinkwise]

@BillRyan — Here is a link to some compelling video footage of Alpha Centauri DB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1JfzQX5oVE

Interestingly, it contains "actual factual" footage of a "pandora-like" exoplanet that theoretically could harbor human life. If the footage is in fact real then your theory seems to be even more plausible. I recommend viewing the entire video, but if you can also skip to the juicy stuff at minute 13:00.

I wonder what you think of this footage?

[svein magne]

hello ,,, im from Norway ,, i have had contact with a race in 3 years now ,,, but it is not nordics or greys ,,, this race im in contact with are human lokking and small as a 6-7 years old ung human ,, and have green skin ,,,, yes , no joke ,,,, they have blue uniform with wite stripes on arms and legs ,, they took me to a base on the moon ,, this base was human made ,, it was made of green containers from earth ,, and they put these containers together and 2and 2 - 3and 3 ,,, it was the largest containers you can see people on earth yous to send stuff from contry to contry by boat in ,,, i only meet one of this race , and he was a soldier ,, they did not let me see other then this soldier ,,, but i belive there was an another race there to , ,,i never saw them but i know there was a race they dont let me see ,,, i never saw eny humans eder , ,,so humans - green looking small humans - and a 3 race ,,,, 3 races working together , is there some one in her who know about this ??????

[Kari Lynn]

I wonder why they would segregate nationalities and language of our own planet to other planets when eventually don't we have to learn to get along with other universal beings?
And if some were placed here as "slaves" and "food" what of those that are seeded elsewhere? I'm sure some ET's are looking after our welfare, but there still are others that are malevolent to us, so are any of those being planted on other planets being done so for the same reasons some of us MILAB's and humans are being used for here on Earth?

[161803398]

First of all: we are not threatened with becoming slaves to another race. We already are slaves. This has been accomplished in part, as I understand it, by dividing the people of the earth against each other. In the US, when the white and black poor people were united against the powers that be they were then divided easily by giving the whites the idea that they were part of a superior class. Has anyone noticed the absence of black or brown aliens. Seems odd to me.

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

I watched the first episode of the now-canceled TV series Terra Nova (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Nova_%28TV_series%29) last night (where selected groups of humans are relocated from a dying Earth back in time to an earlier period millions of years ago, where there is a pristine ecosystem and everyone can start again).

Not exactly the same theme, but it DID remind me of this thread, which has been continually in the back of my mind ever since I first found the information about families being relocated to a Pandora-like planet of Alpha Centauri — BEFORE James Cameron's movie was made.

Do read... this still rings VERY true for me.

[Debra]

Bill,

Thank you for this thread. I have stumbled across an event that happened pretty much in my own back yard and I never knew about it. What's more, knife makers connected with Mora. This is so close to my circle, I am going in to do my own investigation .. Fascinating !

I am lost for words actually .. I need to recalibrate and hopefully help you keep this going ...

Cheers

[Rocky_Shorz]

-------

Dear All:

I read this more-than-fascinating report by author and researcher Ed Komarek a little while back, and so much rang true for me that I nearly jumped out of my chair. I've been pondering it ever since.

I recently dug it up again, and had exactly the same inner reaction.

Read with great interest. Do note the following:


This report came BEFORE James Cameron's AVATAR was released (which also depicts a richly forested moon of a gas giant planet orbiting Alpha Centauri).



Simon Parkes' account (in his recent Avalon Interview) of the Nordics/Pleiadians sometimes being warlike is confirmed.



Henry Deacon's accounts (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html) of
a) the wormhole to Mars (through which he traveled),
b) that some ETs like to eat humans (i.e. us!), and
c) the existence of inhabited planets in the Alpha Centauri system, are also confirmed.
d) So is his personal rough estimate that there were over 40 ET species that we knew of, and
e) the name SOLAR WARDEN (which was originally confirmed by Henry).



The description of the appearance of human-grey hybrids are consistent with what's been reported elsewhere.




wow Bill,

my seer who has never had any interest in learning about ETs and has never even looked into this forum except over my shoulder described them as little grey people, and said they looked human...

thank for sharing this link, I'll read more...

edited to add: my photo was a large tornado cloud that came in over Oceanside, Camp Pendleton area, the picture was taken over Escondido before changing course and headed for 29 Palms...

I have always believed it was camouflage for a large ET ship hidden inside...

[Johnny]

Bill's post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68493-Military-source-some-humans-are-being-voluntarily-relocated-to-a-Pandora-like-planet-round-Alpha-Centauri&p=953655&viewfull=1#post953655
Haven't seen it yet but here is 'Terra Nova'

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You can get the rest here : https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=terra+nova+season+1+episode+1

Edit:
UPS! It seems like a bad idea, the yellow rectangle does not disappear !!!

Edit (again) this one is better:

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French language voice !!!!!


Johnny :)

[Agape]

(On Lighter note)


There are some confusing news online about the recent Mars One Mission (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One) that aimed to start first human colony on Mars in about 5 years from now,
I’ve just read that the Dutch based company declared bankruptcy in 2019,
well after collecting lots in registration fees from volunteer astronauts in waiting of whom 100 were selected.
Now to the point: the interest in what would be One Way ticket to Mars, with no guarantee of return, was unexpectedly high 😄
More than 200 thousand people from all possible countries signed up within time limit of few weeks for admission to the program and more people simply did not know about it in time :)

Mars is comparatively less attractive than a pristine location somewhere in Andromeda Galaxy ( I know you said Alpha Centauri and I said Zeta Reticuli but perhaps there’s a choice :))
and human technologies are very crude compared to advanced ET crafts and technologies so realistically speaking and IF the option existed,

is it not surprising how many people would sign up consciously and voluntarily,
including ..cough ...some of your young kids 😅

[Agape]

I have also recalled the case of “Space People” cult that emerged within the little space of Czech Republic precisely when I was away for 6 years, between 1999 and 2005.

The originator- self created contactee Ivo Benda who adopted name of Ashtar Sherran the commander of Pleiaren space fleet has suffered bad reputation and lawsuit I believe( but not 100% sure) after he tried to sell “evacuation flight tickets” for some rather fat sums to bunch of his wealthy followers.
The scandal of the sect was well washed in the media and analysed by all kinds of experts, if only to warn people from getting deceived by similar individuals and movements.

I checked their site still exists to this day but can no way endorse it as “genuine movement”. Like many others in that zone their information seems to be copied from all kind of foreign resources including but not limited to Swiss FIGU and Billy Meier.

And yes they’re still suggesting “evacuation flights” and fleets will take place in order to relocate dying humanity to new pristine planets.

Ok I will find the webpage for illustration:

http://www.angels-heaven.org/english/default_en.htm


It’s a nonsense of course.

Poor copy cat version of future Corey Good at the best.


But one thing not so difficult to notice in many similar cases of people and their sects, human mind is gullible and people “buy into” all kind of saviour type of nonsense, periodically, again and again , in big and small numbers.
In return the whole social awareness of similar matters declines rather than “ascends”.


It was almost for this reason alone that my own report from Bodhgaya 2002 was considered with utmost caution after I returned to Prague, in 2005.
I was told the whole story of the group above and reasons people were rather worried about anything ET.

I still feel rather bad for ignorant people with little brains going through their memory shortcuts, again and again, and associations bearing the historically belittled and misused name of Czech Republic having anything to do with me but offending intelligence of pioneers, innovators, artists and other half way enlightened individuals who ever inhabited Central Europe.

But it seems to be a similar case with many small and isolated ethnics around the globe and their past, allowing weird individuals and ideas to flourish.

Brain retardation is common and widespread among human populace everywhere, that slow brain wave that can deal only with “simple things” but makes people feel and act “as if” they were already baked and enlightened.
The slow brain wave of retards, alcoholics, pork eaters and materialists, foodies with their earthy convictions about Life and the Universe.



If you see any of those people in your vicinity or on the farm nearby, don’t bump to them :) it’s not worth the mental pain.
Just take a long stroll around and think, what a nice day ...


😅

[aoibhghaire]

Although no exoplanet has been discovered yet around the star Alpha Centauri, its binary companion star Proxima Centauri has now got its confirmed planet in 2020. A planet that has similar characteristics to Earth as regards size, mass and global temperatures.

Interestingly enough there is another second planet Proxima c candidate still to be confirmed by further observations.

The discovery of Proxima b marked one of the most important milestones in exoplanetary science in recent years in 2016. However the ‘planet’ was still an exoplanet candidate until it got its confirmation detection just recently. The limited precision at the time of the available radial velocity data and the difficulty in modelling the stellar activity called for a confirmation of the Earth-mass planet.

This has been confirmed this year and the presence of Proxima b using independent measurements obtained with the new ESPRESSO spectrograph on the ESO VLT, and refined planetary parameters taking advantage of its improved precision.

Using the new generation spectrograph ESPRESSO at the VLT. The improved radial velocity precision and collecting power allowed independent detection of Proxima b with a much smaller number of observations than originally needed.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.12114v1.pdf

[wegge]

Are they considering applications?

[Patient]

Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?

[Bill Ryan]

Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

[Patient]

Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Which would be a good plan. Imagine a world with all of the flora and fauna untouched by human's interference.

[Bill Ryan]

Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Which would be a good plan. Imagine a world with all of the flora and fauna untouched by human's interference.Well, see this thread:


THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76226-THE-ULTIMATE-PLAN--a-fairy-story...-maybe-)

... in which I present the notion of an ET-supported plan, agreed by the human global controllers, to completely remove mankind from Earth to turn it into a kind of interplanetary nature reserve.

[Patient]

Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Which would be a good plan. Imagine a world with all of the flora and fauna untouched by human's interference.Well, see this thread:


THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76226-THE-ULTIMATE-PLAN--a-fairy-story...-maybe-)

... in which I present the notion of an ET-supported plan, agreed by the human global controllers, to completely remove mankind from Earth to turn it into a kind of interplanetary nature reserve.

One of my ancestors was apparently a French Voyageur who canoed the waters helping to map Canada. While I grew up I would take every opportunity I could to go canoeing. If you have never been on a fresh water lake at dawn or dusk when the water is like glass, then there is a moment in life that you have missed.

For anyone that is presented with this opportunity, I strongly suggest experiencing it.

And if anyone is listening, I would love the chance to map out some new fresh waters - just saying. :)

[Merkaba360]

Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Not only that, but it would mean that humans (ex: Elon) are not the only ones making our strain of humans a multiplanetary civilization. Why wait for Elon if the ETs can already do it. If ET's engineered us on this planet originally, then this is the original stock. For the next planet, they could have different intentions for us. They can select more developed humans from earth - being very choosey for which type of humans seed the next planet. Who knows what kind of criteria they would want for that.

It would be cool if they brought many spiritual people to seed a new planet that is at a slightly higher frequency and only appropriate for spiritual types. Although, I wonder if the vast majority of spiritual types would refuse to leave earth (on a soul level) because of their desire to help earth advance and for the great opportunity for their own growth by staying here.

Wish they could take all the most corrupt amongst us and bring them to a new planet, and name that planet New Australia. lol

[Mark]

Wish they could take all the most corrupt amongst us and bring them to a new planet, and name that planet New Australia. lol

Read this when I was a kid. I remember it was a pretty adventurous and memorable envisioning.


The planet "Old North Australia", or simply "Norstrilia", is the only planet in the Instrumentality of Mankind fictional universe which produces the precious immortality drug "stroon", which indefinitely delays aging in humans. Stroon (or the "Santaclara drug") is harvested from the huge diseased sheep the Norstrilians raise, and has resisted all attempts at artificial synthesis. Since the Norstrilians have a monopoly, stroon sells for astronomical prices, and Norstrilia is fabulously wealthy (wealthier than any other single planet). To safeguard their archaic way of life (resembling Australian ranchers with a British cultural inheritance), the Norstrilians are forced to develop the most advanced defense force and weaponry known (for example, Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons); to protect their culture, imports from other worlds are taxed at rates exceeding 20 million percent, reducing what would be a staggering fortune on another planet to humble penury on Norstrilia itself. They are also forced to cull their young in order to prevent overpopulation (only those who pass the test of the "Garden of Death" are allowed to enter adulthood).

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=46215&d=1614370989

[Denise/Dizi]

I once read something. It was something like the Agenda 21 papers or something very similar. Essentially the papers described taking humanity, and placing them into cities that are self supporting, and leaving the Earth to nature. And then, those that want to escape their cities and go enjoy the nature and beauty of the planet absolutely could, without us sprawling into all the nooks and crannies of the world, and making it all colonized.

I saw many benefits for doing this, but I also saw many "Downsides" to these plans. If anyone else ever came across those pages and remembers what they were, it would be an interesting read for me now, years later...

As far as humans being taken to other planets, I believe this has been happening all along, and it may be how we ended up here to begin with... Just a thought...

[Myristyl]

I once read something. It was something like the Agenda 21 papers or something very similar. Essentially the papers described taking humanity, and placing them into cities that are self supporting, and leaving the Earth to nature. And then, those that want to escape their cities and go enjoy the nature and beauty of the planet absolutely could, without us sprawling into all the nooks and crannies of the world, and making it all colonized.


I have been thinking the same thing. Many years ago, I must have been about fourteen, I read a couple of books by Arthur C Clarke that have always stayed with me. I haven't read them since so I can't say how I would view them now but at the time they made quite an impression.

One was The City and the Stars (http://top-science-fiction-novels.com/66-the-city-and-the-stars-arthur-c-clarke/) and the other was The Lion of Comarre (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsK5mEwl0lE)

From my memory of these stories they both demonstrate Clarke's uncanny ability to predict the future. Both deal with the fate of humanity as technology is taken to its ultimate conclusion. I won't give anything away but when I think of these stories I think of Agenda 21, the fourth industrial revolution and the trans humanism that may be our unfortunate future. Of course, my memory of the works may be a little faded but this is how I think of them now.

Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.

EDIT:
The Lion of Comarre begins at approx 6:15:40 in the above link.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

:flower:

[Denise/Dizi]

Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

:flower:

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

:flower:

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??Well, we'd have talked to him about the backstory of 2001: A Space Odyssey (and its sequels), if he knew who or what was really on the moon (and elsewhere in the solar system), whether we might have classified bases there now, what might be special about Europa (remember the movie quote at the end of 2010: ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE), about his classic novel Childhood's End, and if he knew anything about the Secret Space Program, Stanley Kubrick, and the Apollo Missions.

But we'd also have done a lot of careful listening, knowing that as he was well aware he was nearing the end of his long life, me might have wanted to share a few things he'd never previously talked about.

A fictional interview with him might be a very interesting project. :)

[Denise/Dizi]

Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

:flower:

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??Well, we'd have talked to him about the backstory of 2001: A Space Odyssey (and its sequels), if he knew who or what was really on the moon (and elsewhere in the solar system), whether we might have classified bases there now, what might be special about Europa (remember the movie quote at the end of 2010: ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE), about his classic novel Childhood's End, and if he knew anything about the Secret Space Program, Stanley Kubrick, and the Apollo Missions.

But we'd also have done a lot of careful listening, knowing that as he was well aware he was nearing the end of his long life, me might have wanted to share a few things he'd never previously talked about.

A fictional interview with him might be a very interesting project. :)

I have to say the "listening" part of your reply was the most telling... Because out of all of the interviews I have watched throughout the years, you seem to be one of the very few who know HOW to listen effectively, and not lead the interview, but just get actual questions answered.. Sometimes remaining quiet demands from those being interviewed, more details, and the devil is always in the details. This is why I have much respect for you when it comes to you doing interviews... You actually don't care about fame, but moreso the true answers that people are willing to give.

Someday I must get to where you are, and just chat with you...

[Mike]

Bump! Bump!:bump:

I don't quite know what to make of the testimony, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If nothing else it was great fun to read. At the risk of using a very overused phrase, it feels true...or at the very least, true'ish

[Bill Ryan]

Bump! Bump!:bump:

I don't quite know what to make of the testimony, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If nothing else it was great fun to read. At the risk of using a very overused phrase, it feels true...or at the very least, true'i****'s always felt true to me — and it's surely exactly what some ETs might do (just as we do with endangered rhinos in Africa) to ensure human survival should the worst happen in their natural habitat.

And it's an interesting thought experiment. Would you sign up for a one-way ticket? I actually think I would.

[Mike]

Bump! Bump!:bump:

I don't quite know what to make of the testimony, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If nothing else it was great fun to read. At the risk of using a very overused phrase, it feels true...or at the very least, true'i****'s always felt true to me — and it's surely exactly what some ETs might do (just as we do with endangered rhinos in Africa) to ensure human survival should the worst happen in their natural habitat.

And it's an interesting thought experiment. Would you sign up for a one-way ticket? I actually think I would.

I think you would too!:)

I thought about it earnestly for a few mins. I don't think I could do it. I require various supplements just to stay alive, so on a practical level it would be unrealistic. I think if I were healthier and my parents were dead, I might just do it. Very hard to say.

[Bill Ryan]

:bump::bump::bump:

[Vicus]

yeah... good luck with that...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iELeY7RNDKI

[mountain_jim]

Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

:flower:

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??Well, we'd have talked to him about the backstory of 2001: A Space Odyssey (and its sequels), if he knew who or what was really on the moon (and elsewhere in the solar system), whether we might have classified bases there now, what might be special about Europa (remember the movie quote at the end of 2010: ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE), about his classic novel Childhood's End, and if he knew anything about the Secret Space Program, Stanley Kubrick, and the Apollo Missions.

But we'd also have done a lot of careful listening, knowing that as he was well aware he was nearing the end of his long life, me might have wanted to share a few things he'd never previously talked about.

A fictional interview with him might be a very interesting project. :)

Turns out I am reading Clarke's Rama Trilogy now - (books 2 and 3 co-written by Gentry Lee), now in middle of 3rd book: Garden of Rama where an ET Intelligence has a human family heading back to a Mars colony with intentions to convince 2000 Earth colonists to inhabit an earth-like habitat on board the Rama ship for purposes unknown to me at this point in the story.

I originally read the Rendezvous with Rama 4+ decades ago but picked this back up now due to my favorite current director being signed up to do a movie (https://theportalist.com/rendezvous-with-rama-movie)



Everything We Know About the Rendezvous With Rama Movie

Denis Villeneuve will direct this long-awaited Arthur C. Clarke adaptation.

By Grace Felder | Published Mar 17, 2022

On December 15, 2021, The Hollywood Reporter broke the news that Denis Villeneuve is set to direct a movie adaption of 2001: A Space Odyssey author Arthur C. Clarke’s classic novel Rendezvous With Rama.

This is big news for all sci-fi fans, so what do we know about this exciting adaptation so far?

This big screen version of Clarke’s novel has been a long time coming. For over two decades, the rights to the book have been owned by Revelations Entertainment, Morgan Freeman and Lori McCreary’s production company.

Villeneuve’s film will be produced by Alcon Entertainment, which also produced his previous films Prisoners and Blade Runner: 2049. Freeman and McCreary will also produce through Revelations.

In a statement, Freeman and McCreary praised Villeneuve: “Denis’ vision for Rama felt completely aligned with Arthur’s wishes, so we are confident that teaming with our producing partners Andrew and Broderick at Alcon is the right next step in this over-20-year odyssey!”

Villeneuve is not new to the sci-fi movie scene in the least. His 2021 adaptation of Frank Herbert’s Dune was a box office success and has been nominated for 10 Oscars. He also received critical acclaim for 2016’s Arrival and 2017’s Blade Runner: 2049.

[Vicus]

Anomalies

Just about some memories, no time to searching links now...

A) In no artificial gravity space ships (official now), men cant get penis erections because their blood circulation is off...

Say there is such ships + hibernation pods and they can landed somewhere...

There is a post from few months ago (i don't know now where) where perfect details...

B) About women menstrual cycle be dependent from Earth gravity+ Moon +circadian cycles?...blah,blah...

In others words, no matter if men "works" but women need something "special" (like always) like delicate snow flakes they are... :facepalm:

joke apart: women reproduction process is dependent from her planetary cradle entanglement works...

If "that special" circumstances are not given women can not get pregnant...

So, non colony possible out there...(but Aliens know better...RIGHT?)

[Bill Ryan]

:bump: :bump: :bump:

A great opportunity to bump this fascinating thread — again! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYEpxEVXmZc

[Bill Ryan]

Copying this post by Ravenlocke (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1694145&viewfull=1#post1694145)on Helvetic's thread:

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Lake Anjikuni: How Did an Entire Village Disappear?

In 1930, near the remote wilderness of Lake Angikuni in Nunavut, Canada, an entire Inuit village of roughly 1,200 people vanished without a trace. When Canadian trapper Joe Labelle arrived, he encountered an eerie scene: homes were intact, meals left on tables, fires still burning, and rifles untouched—yet not a single inhabitant was present. The sudden disappearance of an entire community within minutes baffled anyone who came across the scene.

Labelle alerted the nearest telegraph station, bringing the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to investigate. What they found only deepened the mystery. Sled dogs, essential to Inuit life, were dead and tied to posts, having starved and turned on one another. The village cemetery had been stripped: graves emptied, and the traditional heavy burial stones removed. It was evident that the event required both time and effort, yet it seemed to have occurred in absolute silence, leaving no explanation for the total vanishing.

Adding to the enigma were reports from nearby communities of a strange green light descending over the area in the days prior to the disappearance. While some attributed it to the aurora borealis, others speculated about more extraordinary causes, including alien involvement. Despite decades of investigation, no concrete evidence has ever surfaced. The Lake Angikuni disappearance remains one of the 20th century’s most enduring mysteries, a chilling reminder of how little we understand about the unknown.

https://x.com/PopHemingway/status/1994023949584486556

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https://www.historicmysteries.com/unexplained-mysteries/lake-anjikuni/23871/

Lake Anjikuni: How Did an Entire Village Disappear?

https://www.historicmysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Lake-Anjikuni.jpgNo trace of the missing villagers was ever found.

In the far north of Canada, Lake Anjikuni can be an inhospitable place. Covered with snow and ice for half the year, the lake forms part of a string of waterways which the local Inuit used to sustain their communities through fishing and trade.

Several villages existed along the shores of the lakes, home to the Inuit and a welcome resting point for the fur trappers who braved the far north to hunt beaver and caribou. But something happened to one of the villages in 1930 which remains a mystery to this day.

A news reporter in The Pas, Manitoba, reported about a small Inuit community off the coast of Lake Anjikuni in 1930. Joe Labelle, a well-known fur trapper in the community, was passing through the area when he stopped at the village, only to discover that all of the people had left. According to the story Joe Labelle discovered an empty camp with six tents, but of the 25 men, women, and children who lived there, there was no sign.

This story has been retold many times and many theories have been put forward to explain the disappearances, from the plausible to the outlandish. What happened to the small Inuit community out there in the freezing north of Canada?

The Village that Vanished

Joe Labelle, a Canadian fur trapper, was wandering near Anjikuni Lake in the Northwest Territories of Canada on a freezing November day in 1930. He entered the village in search of lodging after learning of an Inuit settlement nearby, only to find it utterly deserted.

Whatever had happened had taken the villagers completely unawares. During his search, he discovered incomplete garments with needles still in them, as well as food hung over fire pits, but no traces of violence or a conflict that would have explained the people’s absence.

Moving though the village, Labelle found seven sled dogs still tied to their posts: they had all starved to death. These dogs would have been vital to the survival of the community and to leave them behind would have been almost unthinkable.

But then, on the edge of the village, Labelle found something even more chilling. A human grave had been recently dug up. Because the stones encircling the burial were undisturbed, Labelle recognized it couldn’t have been an animal. A human had done this.

He informed the North-West Mounted Police, who launched an investigation into the disappearances. But no one from the village was ever located: it was as if they had vanished into thin air.

An Unexplained Mystery

This unsolved mystery has attracted many investigations over the years. Brian Dunning of the Skeptoid website investigated this instance and tracked it back to the original newspaper article written by Emmett Kelleher on November 29, 1930.

He pointed out various discrepancies in the original tale, such as the fact that the missing Inuit kayaks would not be “battered by wave action” if the lake was frozen at the time. He also highlighted that in succeeding retellings, the village’s alleged population grew larger, and other details were inflated.

Later stories add even more unlikely details. Nigel Blundell and Roger Boar’s book World’s Greatest UFO Mysteries talks of three trappers who saw a UFO in the vicinity, along with gross exaggerations such as a thousand people missing and whole graveyards full of exhumed burials.

Unlike the Northern Lights, the lights they observed on the horizon were blueish and pulsing. The lights, like the rest of the enclosure, were never explained, nor was any link to the missing villagers established.

However, various ufologists speculated in the late twentieth century that the residents of this village may have been the unwitting victims of one of history’s largest extraterrestrial abductions. Despite the fact that the evidence supporting this idea is anecdotal at best, the assumption is both intriguing and terrifying.

Could aliens have taken an entire village? It would explain their sudden disappearance and the failure of the RCMP to find any trace.

Another Perspective

Of course, skeptics will look for a more down-to-earth explanation for the disappearance of the villagers, starting with questioning the original story. Labelle claimed to have been a seasoned trapper who knew the region well, but records show that he had never taken out a hunting license before 1930.

Kelleher, the journalist who broke the story, had been accused of exaggeration in his writings before and one of the pictures used in his article was proven to be decades old. Based on these questions and the lack of proof as to the village, the RCMP dismissed the story as fabricated in 1931 and closed the case.

And just like that, the villagers disappeared for a second time – first from their homes and then from the history books. The evidence for it being a fabrication is only circumstantial, and no doubt welcomed by the investigating authorities as a quick solution to their mystery.

The lack of a trapping license does not mean Labelle did not know the region, or the village. There were plenty of trappers operating illegally at the time, as well as traders and merchants operating between the villages.

Kelleher may have been discredited in the past but this alone is also not sufficient to dismiss the story. He had many years of experience as a journalist and his interest in the sensational may have been the very thing that led him to Labelle’s account

And if these two men were telling the truth about what they saw, then an entire village disappeared and nothing was done to investigate. What were the strange lights in the sky? Where did the people go?

Why were the dogs left to starve? And, most chillingly of all, who had been in the empty grave? Native American myths are filled with evil creatures, cannibals and monsters, who haunt the forests and badlands of their great continent.

Maybe Labelle had just missed encountering such a monster, in the frozen wilderness of the north.