Alcoholism and addictions

[Fairy Friend]

Has anyone heard of Dr. Joan Mathews Larson's book “Seven Weeks to Sobriety”? This works. She uses the fact that the brain is protected/vulnerable with the blood/brain barrier and floods the body and therefor the brain with vitamins at 10,000 times the normal doses, so repair can occur in the brain. For instance, Tryptophan depletion in the brain is what triggers blackouts in an alcoholic. This deals only with the physical side of addiction. You are putting a known toxin in your body and this is a physical issue she addresses, not the emotional, spiritual...side of why you took this path. After all, many people, my sister was one of them (Xanax), have gotten addicted through the doctor care and advice.

Flooding the brain with mega high doses of vitamins will initiate neurotransmitter and receptor repair. It helps with pain.

She also identifies some of those predisposed conditions that contribute to alcoholism and addictions. For instance, 80% of hypoglycemics become alcoholics. Allergies may make it harder. (II ADH/THIQ) II ADH which is the dehydrogenase liver enzyme that actually breaks down alcohol but will produce tetrahydroisoquinolines (THIQ) an endorphan-like substance. An omega-6- essential fatty acid deficiency another predisposed condition.

I believe she is a protegee student of Dr. Pfeiffer and his use of the ortho-molecular approach. Indeed, many schizophrenics will seek out drugs to correct their malfunctioning brains.

I found her personally a pain, she does not like to talk to anyone who does not have a degree or is not a doctor. Her book written for the medical profession and lots of people found it a hard read but I say worth it. Some brilliant people have bad bedside manners. She has found the way. She paid the price with her son. 75%-90% success rate.

Noni (Tahiti fruit) is also a wonder. It contains a substance (Xeronine) that may help with getting over addictions and alcoholism as well.

[vje2]

Hi Fairy friend

I´ve heard about Noni been a wonderful fruit with many health benefits to us all, but have never read anything related to Noni and its impact on alcoholism.
I am very interested in hearing a bit mor about this topic.
Any pointers, books or referencences that I can get my hands on?

I do have a Noni tree that Mum planted 3 years ago and we use it a lot! And I also have a small sister who is an alcoholic...
Thanks for the information.

[pugwash84]

It may be something to do with genetics because my granddad was an alcoholic and he took drugs and died at a early age, I wasn't born when he died. My Dad was also an alcoholic,my Auntie was a alcoholic too. Maybe it is easier for some people to become addicts than others, or maybe some people can deal with emotional pain better than others. My Dad died at the age of 43 from alcoholism and from what I observed it wasn't the fact that he liked alcohol, it was some sort of pain that he was suffering emotionally. I think a lot of alcoholics have some sort of emotional pain or something that they need to block out with alcohol. I think if the root of the problem was treated there wouldn't be a need to drink to block it out.
It would not be beneficial for the alcoholic to block out alcohol from the body cold turkey as this can send the body into shock, but to cut down and work on emotional issues. xxxxx

[Mike Gorman]

Alcohol, Opiates are both classic drugs of emotional pain, or hypersensitivity -it's an old association, that is why so many
artistic temperaments seem to turn to them. Some people can have a dose of Morphine, feel ill and never think of taking it again
while others will feel a wonderful liberation from anxiety and inner turmoil and seek it out forever more...same with Alcohol, although Alcohol is
actually more toxic and dangerous to the body than any Opiate. It is all biochemistry, brain transmitters-a lottery really.

[spiritwind]

I have 3 children, 2 sons and my youngest daughter. The younger of my 2 sons is an alcoholic and regularly has blackouts. He is now in his early 30’s. Hereditary issues contribute here no doubt as his great grandfather (my grandfather) died of cirrhosis of the liver from drinking and his father towards the end of his life (died at age 50) was heavily into meth and alcohol and was on a downhill spiral everyone knew was going to end bad.

I have had many talks with my son and for a long time now I don’t hold back. I figure if his mom can’t talk to him straight, then who can. He listens but it will never change anything until if/when he makes the choice to put as much effort into going the other direction as he puts into his current lifestyle. And he has done it (for a whopping 3 months in the fall of 2011). I let him move in with us during this time to help be supportive and I could not believe what an incredibly different and wonderful person he was to be around. I will never regret it either, because now I know (and he knows too!) what life for him might look like if he could get a handle on the big A. It is unlikely that I will ever do that again though because it was also very painful to watch him “fall off the wagon” so to speak. I remember the day well. He likened his addiction during that time as silently doing pushups in the corner so that every day that went by, no matter outward appearances, he was inching ever closer to loosing that inner battle.

And that is truly what it is. No one in their right mind would constantly drink themselves into a blackout where they get beat up, robbed, and left for dead by their “friends” because they really enjoy it. The real miracle is that he is still alive. And it is very clear that it is, indeed, a psychic and emotional pain that drives him. I can only imagine. And now here is time for true confessions. I woke up in labor one early morning about 5 weeks before his due date and was actually instructed by the midwife, who assisted in his home birth, to take a couple shots of whiskey to maybe help slow things down. But there was no stopping him from arriving that day. So, he got a couple of straight shots right to his little brain before he was even born. Now, maybe that wouldn’t have affected most this way but I’ve often regretted it as I have always feared this may have in some small or large way contributed to his later alcohol abuse of the extreme.

My son’s brain clearly metabolizes alcohol different from most. I actually spent an afternoon with him several years ago after returning from having moved quite far away from family for a few years. It was this experience that really opened my eyes to the world he lives in every day. And the switch between being there and then not being hardly able to walk and talk was quite sudden I must add. He generally has absolutely no recollection of events after this point. I have seen him after a night of drinking with other people who can’t remember anything either trying to piece together what happened.

I appreciate the information about mega doses of nutrients because that might actually hold a key to recovery. And there certainly must be severe malnutrition involved. I believe my son would have been diagnosed with ADHD when he was young had I taken him for an evaluation so that too may have played a part. The herb, milk thistle, has shown great promise in healing the liver even though they (the medical establishment) will tell you it can’t be done.

For a parent of an alcoholic child I find that one of my primary objectives is just to continue to show him unconditional love and support without enabling him, because it’s bad enough that his life is like it is. He is so much more that what others see and I will just continue to be that person who sees in him what others can’t at this time. We have even laughed about how he must be here to teach those around him something about compassion and others response to his drinking often reveals more than they know. Fortunately I know this life is not all there is and I can still see him as the amazing spiritual being that he is and will be again.

One last thing I have observed is that people often become quite inhabited by other entities when they check out from reality with alcohol. I guess they don’t call it spirits for nothing.

[pugwash84]

You are so brave, a lot of people who I know find it too hard to handle an alcoholic even if it is their own child. Many people have just given up on them. He is lucky to have such a loving and forgiving Mother. I hope he can heal and find a way of life that he is happy in. It's not your fault with having 2 shots of whiskey, some people are just more likely to have addictions. If it wasn't alcohol maybe he would have addictions to something else. Just keep doing what your doing and all the best wishes in the world to you. xxxxx

[Fairy Friend]

While Noni is not my best subject and in the past, I would refer to Janet Knutson, may she RIP. It is only in the last year that I heard someone identified the substance that may be in it that helps called Xeronine. This person was addicted to prozac 10 years and told she would never get off it. Coincidentally we discovered we both knew Janet Knutson and she insisted she saved her with Noni. I did not find a lot documented (as in research) but the natives had oral tradition of its properties. In WI it is not easy to come by and there are inferior products I'm told.

Also, heard of one person who felt they got over cigarettes with Noni. The vitamin treatment is not as successful here (must point out) but adding an extra trick like disappearing for 2 weeks, works. Dr. Larson said she had someone go fishing in a boat for 2 weeks and succeeded. My friend (30yrs ago-so before knowledge of these other methods) took a vacation for 2 weeks with her non-smoking mother. The success rate is lower for smoking but better with combined methods.

Yes she (Dr. Larson) separates out and classifies the different alcoholic types.
Hypoglycemics- Energized by the alcohol from it's conversion to sugar. Partier type.
II ADH/THIQ-is another type. II ADH which is the dehydrogenase liver enzyme that actually breaks down alcohol so they can drink a lot and not see the immediate damage to the brain. They seem to handle liquor well with little hangovers. Since it will produce tetrahydroisoquinolines (THIQ) an endorphan-like substance it still causes addiction but farther down the line. People of certain German decent have 2 copies of the gene, can drink you under the table. Those of Japanese a defective copy so they cannot metabolize it as well. Add body weight and general metabolism as factors too.
Omega-6- essential fatty acid deficiency another predisposed condition or type. Prone to depression they feel 'better', less depressed, a bit more numb as words used maybe, but they tend to have bad hangovers. Celtic decent.
Allergies-Histamine a neurotransmitter...

I of course, refer to the book and bow to her and her work (Of course she references the original research publications). She considers this modified procedures (depending on your type) to detox. Know of several personal success stories now and insisted copies be put in the local library but that was in 1995 I think.

[Fairy Friend]

One of Dr. Larson's lightbulb moments was to realize that alcoholics had cravings for booze 10 years sober. This meant the brain had not repaired the damage. The demon still on the back and the problem was the brain is separated by the blood/brain barrier and initially protected from the toxic exposure is ultimately dependent on long term health. If you have 10-20 years of drinking, there's a lot of damage. By flooding the body, hence the brain we can initiate repairs with megavitamins, at 10,000 times the dosage of daily value. Brain repaired, body detoxed and carry on with life.
I am a smoker but in a position to not be ready to tackle that demon myself yet and you have to be ready. This is modified according to the toxin as well, alcohol, opiates etc.

[mosquito]

Stanislav and Christina Grof have done a lot of research on addiction and belive that it a symptom of spiritual seeking. They use the twin terms - Spiritual Emergence and Spiritual Emergency.

As with everything else in the human condition, there is more than ONE answer. From my personal perspective, alcohol is nearly always a sustitute for something. If I drink because I'm tired or stressed, it makes me feel bad. If, however, I drink a good wine with a nice meal as a celebration of life, the effect is very different !

Addiction is actually quite a deep topic and doesn't get anthing like the amount of attention it deserves.

[jackovesk]

IMHO (Alcoholisms & Addictions) are put down to several reasons when people want to shy away from reality...:yes4:

e.g.


Unable to Deal with a Major Life Trauma
The Subconscious Admission to be unable to accept Failure in Life
Boredom/Loneliness
Anti-Social vices
The list is endless


Unfortunately at times (We are all Guilty) of not wanting to :ear: 'Listen))) to that (Inner-Voice) that (ALWAYS) tells you exactly what to do to overcome the daily obstacles that are faced by everyone on the planet...

Final Tip - Show some Courage against adversity (Rise above your Problems) accept & forgive them and (Get On With Your Life), not by shoveling them all to one-side through the Booze &/or Addictions...:wizard:

Only read/listen to the 'above' if you really are 'Serious' of jumping of that Endless revolving (Merry-Go-Round)

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PS - The (Secret to Life) is (Growth, Love & Happiness) right...

Those that achieve (Success in Life) simply put (Happiness) set achievable Goals on a regular basis (no matter how big or small) and achieve them or at the very least (do their best to achieve)...

I don't care who you are, without (Direction/Focus) in life, life will pass you by in a blink of an EyE...:faint:

Others can help you on your path but remember (Only 'YOU' can Do It)..!