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Mixteca
23rd February 2014, 05:08
Default Question: Autism and Vaccines

I have just read a bunch of CDC stuff about how vaccines have nothing to do with autism. I am a researcher and they, of course, sound like they are making a super-solid case.

And yet, I just don't buy it. Autism is too complex. The label covers too many things.

Everything, regardless of where on the spectrum you hit, appears to me to indicate a complex interaction effect and I don't see how it is possible, therefore, to rule out vaccines or thimerisol from this picture.

I haven't found anything substantial in my quick online search then I remembered this site and thought that a lot of people here may have good information about this topic.

I would appreciate any information.

Thanks,
Julie

Frederick Jackson
23rd February 2014, 05:21
Yes, and besides the vaccinations the 60 years or so of water fluoridation in the US and UK. Not to speak of myriad other pollutants in the environment. On the vaccinations, possible reaction to the triple shots etc, but also to the mercury used as a preservative. Really creepy. Autism has risen, what, some 3000% or whatever in the last 50 years? And CDC, NIH etc plead ignorance? :rolleyes:

Mixteca
23rd February 2014, 05:27
Rates have gone from 1 in 1,800 when I was at UCI 20 years ago to 1 in 70. That's exponential. And I have been seeing some amazing condescending and arrogant statements from medical drs recently about how stupid and idiotic their patients are for having concerns about vaccines. Makes me VERY angry. I want to be able to combat this more effectively when I encounter it. They just throw CDC out ther and don't want to hear anything else. Arrrgggghhhh.

onawah
23rd February 2014, 06:32
There have been a lot of threads discussing autism and vaccines over the years on Avalon, and lots of good info posted in them. Two current ones are here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68633-Autism-Discussion/page1
and here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63627-File-It-Away-Right-Here-Before-You-Forget--A-Thread-for-Autism-Research-Paper-Links&p=733501&viewfull=1#post733501
If you need help in using the search engine to find earlier threads on these subjects, you can always ask a Mod.



Default Question: Autism and Vaccines

I have just read a bunch of CDC stuff about how vaccines have nothing to do with autism. I am a researcher and they, of course, sound like they are making a super-solid case.

And yet, I just don't buy it. Autism is too complex. The label covers too many things.

Everything, regardless of where on the spectrum you hit, appears to me to indicate a complex interaction effect and I don't see how it is possible, therefore, to rule out vaccines or thimerisol from this picture.

I haven't found anything substantial in my quick online search then I remembered this site and thought that a lot of people here may have good information about this topic.

I would appreciate any information.

Thanks,
Julie

ghostrider
23rd February 2014, 06:36
Look at the past , before all the shots in the arm to cure this or that , autism wasn't near as widespread as it is now ...

8Adamas8
23rd February 2014, 07:03
I have ADHD/ASD and have talked with parents of and others on the spectrum, both aware and unaware of the vaccine links and the number one commonality I find is how we start showing signs at 18 months. I would say this is the case in 90% of the people I have talked to. Not to kick any MDs in their PHDs but lo' and behold what vaccine gets the most attention and is scheduled at 18 months, THE MMR!!! It doesn't take 8 years of college to say this at least warrants further investigation.

Now I don't put all the gravy on the vaccine taters. Fredrick Jackson was getting on to pollutants and water fluoridation. Also Jackovesek posted a thread with a MSM article about a study linking environmental causes for ADHD/ASD.

Fairy Friend
23rd February 2014, 07:55
I actually worked on Tb (tuberculosis) vaccine for one year. Substitute scientist so to speak for some one pregnant. We were comparing China's method of a bacteria BCG Bacillus Calmette Guerin that is a bacteria that nestles inside your cells but protects against Tb. Much like cowpox protects you against smallpox.

1. Our protocols never included mercury. That is a mass production decision and I am not convince we need such a colloidal suspension it is used for.
2. It was projected some people may have reactions to proteins bacterial or viral depending on the vaccine or contaminants depending on the quality of processing.
3. I consider the use of vaccines an experiment in progress. It is one thing to experiment in a lab another to apply this on large populations. Each vaccine should be judged independantly and MMI is definitely one highlighted.

I believe what ties everything together is the priming of the gut from the birth canal. Both good and bad bacteria, viruses and parasites. Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride at Mercola.com. She links this to use of antibiotics over several generations now. Introduction of antibiotics and autism follow hand in hand with it's introduction to other countries. It explains why it is increasing.

Fluoride, GMO, Wheat-gluten allergies, vaccines, heavy metals, candida, etc. all connect with the gut. The gut functions with the immune system and with detoxing. Bacteria bifidis is being singled out as a major player linked to leaky gut syndrome.

I believe it make sense that even if some things listed above are a possible cause of autism then running tests maybe in order. Indeed, the very first urine and poop would be most informative. The urine showing the toxins being excreted including toxic exposure and viruses, bacteria and fungus and the feces showing probiotic profile (candida, bifidus, various acidophilus...) the presence of the right stuff in balance or imbalanced or the presence of bad probiotics, parasites, fungus, microbes etc., which tells us the body's ability to handle viruses, immunizations, allergies, etc.

Whether she is right that babies with proper immune systems can handle vaccines is debatable.

sheme
23rd February 2014, 09:35
When Tony Blair took his new boy to France for his jabs then claimed privacy when asked by the press if his child had had the MMR jab here in England He refused to answer. That was all any thinking man/woman should need to know.

See Tesla's excellent Autism thread.

Matt P
23rd February 2014, 16:43
Great comment Fairy Friend. Sorry I haven't been around long enough to see the other threads but I look forward to playing catch-up. I'm not a doctor or medical expert (though my wife is a nurse practitioner) or have a photographic memory but from reading about vaccines for the last 15 years a couple of things stand out. As Suzanne Humphries so incredibly articulates, we have forgotten how to develop and care for our immune systems and we have allowed the mainstream authorities to convince us that we are too imperfect without the intervention of western medical care, which is a huge mistake on our part and a concerted effort on the part of the corporate medical cartel. The other thing is that once you've read and watched just about all there is to read and watch on vaccines, I believe there is no other conclusion to come to than simply they were never designed to prevent disease. They are about profits and control. Profit on the front end, paying for the "medicine" and profit in the long term, dealing with all the consequences. The idea of vaccines is even based on an inaccurate Germ Theory. Interior terrain is far more important than external influences, even admitted by the theory's creator.
Common sense says that if vaccines were so incredible and actually prevented disease, one, we wouldn't have to be continually "encouraged" to take them and evidence would support taking them. It doesn't. Also, they would have long ago done the most basic study that would solve the question: vaccinated vs. unvaccinated long term. But, again, when you understand the history of vaccines you understand why the study won't be done. Vaccines seem to be just another part of the matrix shielding us from the actual reality of the world.
Experience also backs me up. Neither of my kids are vaccinated and both have enjoyed incredible health. We still get sick but far less and we recover in 1/10th of the time as everyone else it seems. We have come to trust that we are immune even around the most serious "bugs".
Thanks for all the great comments and look forward to more on the subject!
Matt

Frederick Jackson
23rd February 2014, 20:54
Mixteca, I see that there has been a lot of prior activity in Avalon on this question; see the thread:


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onawah
23rd February 2014, 21:38
That's the same thread I provided the link for in post #4: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63627-File-It-Away-Right-Here-Before-You-Forget--A-Thread-for-Autism-Research-Paper-Links&p=733501&viewfull=1#post733501
and here is the other current one again:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68633-Autism-Discussion/page1

This article just linked to on Facebook today: http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-caught-hiding-data-showing-mercury-in-vaccines-linked-to-autism/



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In a press release issued this week, one that so far no mainstream media sources have bothered to report, it was announced that Dr. Brian Hooker had finally received documents from the CDC through a Freedom of Information Act that revealed the CDC had access to data linking Thimerosal in vaccines to autism, non-organic sleep disorders, and speech disorders.

Two members of Congress helped Dr. Hooker draft his letter to the CDC, after having spent nearly 10 years submitting over 100 Freedom of Information Acts to no avail.

This information, so far, has been completely blacked out of the mainstream media.

This information is very damaging to the CDC, which has stated for years that there are no studies linking the mercury of Thimerosal in vaccines to autism. You can watch for yourself in the video below the most recent testimony given by the CDC in the November 2012 Congressional Hearing on Autism, where they claim there are no studies linking Thimerosal to autism. Thimerosal is still used today in the flu shot that is administered to pregnant women and infants.


More at the link plus videos.


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Tesla_WTC_Solution
23rd February 2014, 21:51
You guys all have excellent points and bring up good things all worth studying.

One of the things I discovered was a possible link between vaccines and a condition related to Leaky Gut.
Meaning a product of the human body essential to many key functions, Heparan Sulfate, is being stripped away by an immune system keyed to attack components of the human body as well as foreign germs and substances, like adjuvants and viral proteins, etc. The Hep B shot is highly suspect due to the mechanism of Hepatitis B seeking out Heparan Sulfate in the gut and brain. I think we are really onto something with that link.

Also there really is a gene though to be partly responsible, but it's actually pretty rare. ASD parents seem fairly good at hooking up with other people who have non neurotypical brains, though, so it's hard to know what "causes" it.

One thing to remember, there is a difference between a genetic "injury" i.e. a missing part of the brain, and an all out immune system overreaction that damages the brain and its building blocks slowly and over time.

See, if your kid is BOTH genetically compromised and ALSO experiencing a vaccine adverse reaction, ****ed up by shots in layman's terms, he or she is going to suffer greatly, much more than if he or she had one problem or the other. The brain is very delicate and when it's trying to make neural connections and build protein structures, a haywire immune system can really destroy all that progress by cutting connections between cells. Also Mercury and Aluminum do this to neurons.

Spindle and mirror neurons are not properly distributed in autistic brains.


there is also the additional problem of parents who have been vaccinated passing on Simian viruses and other viruses that find the infant brain a rich and perfect environment in which to grow. SV-40 is the most famous of these vertically transmitted viruses and causes glioma cancer precursors in humans. when that Harvard brain bank fried two years ago, they lost 1/3 or more of their sample brains, and they were working on a study regarding vertical transmission and "de novo" mutations.


De Novo mutations are genetic errors not present in either parent, but arising in the child or offspring with no germline cause.
These are probably caused by the same mechanisms that allow biochemists and vaccine makers to transport DNA from one bacterium or virus to another.
Specifically the bacteriophage and yeast vector systems for manufacturing food and vaccines are the worst culprits if you are looking for De Novo mutations.

Also many reactions won't happen in certain temperatures, which explains the need for fever or fever reduction, after a vaccine.
the doctor ALWAYS ALWAYS gives you Tylenol, which drops your temp and prevents your immune system from destroying the stuff the doctor put in your blood.

Thank you so much for your interest in my research thread.

My son is not doing very well this week and it's definitely a disorder, not just a misunderstood person.
I can accept and love his autism but still be a victim of it.

That's just how I feel. Sorry if that's... wrong :(

A good place to start is online parent accounts of what happened to their kids and when the symptoms were presenting.
you would not believe HOW MANY moms and dads etc noticed that this happened to their kids after vaccine appointment.

many stories talk about changes in kids within minutes, hours, days, weeks, from the vaccines, some longer.
mostly direct correlations and the doctor denies causation.

:( Mad World by Tears for Fears sums it up for me.

Synchronicity
23rd February 2014, 22:54
Or we didn't diagnose as much, or it wasn't a fad, or....many things. Not saying it isn't legit, but people are lumped in now more, too.

Yes, look at the past...maybe not so many diagnosed with autism, but lots of deaths and illnesses, disabilities, and pain and misery before the vaccines. I'm not saying any are perfect, but life was indeed different and many who would have lived with vaccines didn't. It goes both ways, so each person and situation, each vaccine, as Fairy said, can be considered. I have seen unvaccinated kids with autism and of course most who get shots don't get it, so this isn't an all or nothing thing. There are so many lies out about vaccines and so many blanket statements about how perfect they are that people tend to jump one way or another, but I read the study results and not media to figure out how I think about each vaccine and don't say they are all evil or all perfect. Yes, my kids all got them, I did, and my spouse did. Yes, I used to work in hospitals and worked on people who didn't get them and got sick and some died...but yes, I acknowledge that some don't react well to them as with anything else and no, I don't assume they are all wonderful.

And I have a child who could probably fit a diagnosis of Aspergers, but I know that she showed signs when she came home from the hospital at 3 weeks...she functions well, but definitely is...amazing and different. That 18 month time frame is important for other reasons than vaccines and kids who weren't vaccinated show it at that age often as well...complicated issues often have more than one cause. I would say we each research and find what fits our family's situation. That is just my view and of course based on my experience of seeing so much misery before vaccines came along that I don't see now. There is still misery, but it isn't from those diseases very often.

pugwash84
23rd February 2014, 23:34
Both my sons have been different from birth, one low functioning and one Aspergers. I think if children have autism they are born with it and the vaccine maybe triggers something with children who already have asd. xxxxx

Tesla_WTC_Solution
24th February 2014, 00:28
Did you guys and gals catch the Prisonplanet (lol i know) article about Denmark/Finland H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccines and Narcolepsy?

It's sad news.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/finland-vows-care-for-narcolepsy-kids-who-had-swine-flu-shot.html

Finland vows care for narcolepsy kids who had swine flu shot

AFP
Saturday, October 8, 2011

HELSINKI — The Finnish government and major insurance companies announced Wednesday they will pay for lifetime medical care for children diagnosed with narcolepsy after receiving the swine flu vaccine.

“The compensation will provide much-needed financial assistance for the families, although it cannot take away the emotional distress caused by this condition,” Social Services and Health Minister Paula Risikko said in a statement.

Finnish and international researchers recently found a conclusive link between the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine and new cases of narcolepsy, a chronic nervous system disorder which causes people to often uncontrollably fall asleep.

The Finnish Pharmaceutical Insurance Pool (LVP), which represents insurance companies, said Wednesday it would honour all insurance claims in this category.

read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g1doyMOnXuq77VZHACz_rcbX99BA?docId=CNG.4b56b632b2812693ed69ed1191fc79dc.261

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Anything that can cause excessive sleeping also has the potential to cause abnormally small amounts of sleeping, in a differently wired brain.
For example, before the parts of the brain responsible for sleep are fully grown (in an infant or small child), the vaccines can prevent development and the organ never even shows up. In an older child, who has a normal brain but receives an experimental adjuvant vaccine, you would see the organ starting to malfunction.

In autism, organs such as the amygdala are not only damaged but often absent/miniature, not shaped right, etc.
Also the white matter and grey matter where they intersect is a much "dirtier" border with little definition than in a normal brain.
At least with Temple Grandin, her white matter and grey matter was all mixed up. She has horrible sensory trouble that is like torture to her.

Some of the kids in autism group have lice right now and their parents can't even touch the kids' heads in some cases because they are so sensitive to being touched there.
They must think they were born straight into Hell.

It's not an acceptable trade for me, to have a few "genius" by products and the rest in a group home/institution/parents forever.

There is a reason beyond hype that autism is exploding. Look at how often the vaccine ingredients change, and how contracts are swapped like drug dealers etc.

We can't even keep up with the crooks thanks to how fast technology advances. I hope that somewhere some good hearted doctors realize what's happening and put an end to it.

I don't want a super race or a super effed up race or anything unnatural, I think natural love and natural DNA produce a fine human being and they should stop treating us like guinea pigs, that's all it is.

Please watch the film "Renaissance 2054" for a good look into what the industries are really doing with our kids' brains.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386741/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_(film)


Renaissance is a 2006 (English Language) French black-and-white animated science fiction film by French director Christian Volckman. It was co-produced in France, United Kingdom and Luxembourg and released on 15 March 2006 in France and 28 July 2006 in the UK by Miramax Films. Renaissance features a rare visual style in which almost all images are exclusively black and white, with only occasional colour used for detail. The film centers on a policeman investigating the kidnapping of a scientist who holds the key to eternal life in a futuristic Paris.

The film opens in a future Paris with scenes establishing the kidnapping of 22-year-old scientist Ilona Tasuiev, who works for the megacorporation Avalon. The focus transitions to police captain Barthélémy Karas, as he defuses a hostage situation by killing the hostage-takers. Afterwards Karas is given the job of solving the mystery surrounding Ilona's disappearance. Karas begins by contacting Dr. Jonas Muller, a former Avalon scientist familiar with her.

Muller had been working to cure progeria, a genetic condition which affected his brother. Muller worked for Avalon as their top scientist but left after he failed to find a cure and his brother died. He took up new work at a free clinic. Muller tells Karas that "No one ever leaves Avalon", throwing the corporation under suspicion. Karas visits Paul Dellenbach, one of Avalon's CEOs and questions him about Ilona. On suggesting he may have been sleeping with her, Dellenbach replies "I sleep with my wife, I sleep with my secretary, I even sleep with my sister-in-law but I would never sleep with one of my researchers".

After following a series of dead ends, control tells Karas they are tailing Illona's car through Paris. Eventually he captures the driver after a chase which ends at the Eiffel Tower. The man turns out to be a henchmen of Farfella, an Arab Muslim mobster and a childhood friend of Karas. The police captain returns the criminal to Farfella who in return gives him security footage of Illona's kidnapping; it shows her car being stolen by an incredibly old man.

Karas asks Ilona's sister, Bislane, who works for Avalon to break into the company's Archives to discover what Muller was researching. The sister discovers that a Dr. Nakata worked with Muller in a quest to find a cure for progeria. But they destroyed all evidence of their work when some of the children they were testing on started to mutate. Karas and Bislane then escape because accessing the closed file has alerted Avalon security.

Later Karas opens up to Bislane and tells her that he and Farfella were raised in the casbah where they worked with gangs. After a drugs run went wrong, they ended up in a holding cell. Farfella escaped but Karas was left to the mercy of the other gang. Karas puts Bislane under false arrest to protect her from Avalon. Meanwhile Ilona is shown confined in a cyber ball which is being controlled by the old man.

Eventually Karas tracks down Muller. He explains that he took Ilona because through her research she has discovered the secret to eternal life (as he himself did 40 years ago); but knowing what the consequences would be if Avalon acquired such knowledge, he kidnapped her. Karas tries to encourage the old scientist to hand himself in but Muller is mistakenly shot by a police marksman. Karas then deduces that the mysterious old man is Muller's younger brother: now immortal but trapped in an elderly body.

Karas calls on Farfella who hides Bislane from Avalon while also getting a fake passport for Ilona. However the mega-corporation's security are also closing in on the Parisian sewer where Ilona is being held captive. After a short battle, Karas is mortally wounded rescuing Ilona. However she refuses to take the fake passport to start a new life. Instead she tells Karas she wants to live forever with her discovery turning around to walk back to Avalon security. Reluctantly Karas shoots her in the back as CEO Dellenbach watches live through one of his men's helmet camera.

As Karas lies mortally injured from a gunshot wound, he imagines himself apologizing to Bislane for killing her sister for which she forgives him. The film closes with Muller's little brother living as a tramp, throwing his picture of him and his brother into a burning bin. The final scene shows an advert for Avalon with an old woman becoming young again saying, "With Avalon, I know I'm beautiful and I'm going to stay that way."

the avalon bit isn't intentional, it's just the name of the company, lol.

our own avalon is in a good position to fight this crap! :)

Hip Hipnotist
24th February 2014, 02:10
Here's a menu of ( some ) vaccine ingredients including MMR.

I'm not a doctor, pharmacist or chemist but doing just a small amount of research on just a few of these ingredients is enlightening -- to say the least. And that small amount of research would seem to be more than many doctors will do. To prove this point ask your doctor to name just three ingredients in any vaccine of their choosing, preferably the one they are suggesting your 'little one' be subjected to. When they can't they'll tell you there's absolutely no connection between vaccines and autism but yet haven't a clue what's in them, much less what they ( supposedly ) are there to do/prevent.

I have nothing against doctors per se. Some of my best friends are, are... are -- not doctors. ;-))

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

Mixteca
24th February 2014, 07:13
Thank you all so much. This is exactly the kind of information I've been looking for. And thank you for all the links and tips for navigating this site - I'm a newbie.

My nephew - who is my favorite person on the Whole Entire Planet - has autism. When he was 2 he was a very quiet little guy, but highly capable verbally - sounded like a little miniature English professor. At about 3, after getting sick and spiking a fever, he stopped talking. He now has severe dyspraxia and is almost entirely non-verbal.

He has been diagnosed at mentally retarded, but that's a bull**** label. He's non-verbal so they can't get anything like an accurate assessment. And he does function differently. Some things so simple for others are incredibly difficult and he does some things with ease that most people could never do. He isn't less than ANYONE. Of course, that wouldn't change if I believed the cognitive diagnosis were correct either.

My point, I suppose, is that different is not LESS than. No matter what different looks like. I ache for how hard thing are for him sometimes. It kills me the way he is treated by clueless, ignorant, mean-spirited people.

And I feel so BLESSED to be able to see the reality of what a huge gift he is. This young boy has healing properties. When he hugs you something deep in you shifts on a profound level that can bring you to tears. I've seen it happen for people other than myself. And the purity of who he is and how he relates is one of the most powerful things I've ever seen.

So thank you again everyone, for helping me find the missing pieces of this picture.

wolf_rt
24th February 2014, 08:48
I haven't been able to find ant data on autism specifically, but this study shows a clear link between mean infant mortality rates and mean number of vaccine doses, which is telling.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/#!po=21.4286

sheme
24th February 2014, 11:01
I remember when my son had his jab he developed coeliac symptoms -I put him on a gluten free diet and he sort of grew out of it, coincidence? I don't think so he also developed a rash, I was interested to hear about the bowel damage in your article Tesla.

ttps://www.coeliac.org.uk/coeliac-disease/myths-about-coeliac-disease/?gclid=CP7mgIbN5LwCFQPmwgodTHUABg

He appears normal now. (40)LOL

The frustrating thing is we know what "they" are doing- so honest research results will be manipulated to maintain the status quo. Mothers know.

pugwash84
24th February 2014, 11:16
"Some of the kids in autism group have lice right now and their parents can't even touch the kids' heads in some cases because they are so sensitive to being touched there."

I can relate to that, I dread my son catching lice because when he does he puts up such a fight. Even having his hair washed makes him so mad. I just have to hold him and do his hair quick with the comb after he has lotion on. I have a comb with little grooves up it which gets the eggs out too.
I am trying to get him potty trained too at the moment because he always wants to tear open his nappy and play with the fluff inside it or he will try to smear. He will not sit on the potty or the toilet so I'm trying to teach him poo's go into the toilet by showing him his nappy when he does a poo and tip the poo into the toilet to show him where it goes, he pays attention rarely. He tries to crumble everything and has got a bad habbit of spitting juice on his chin because he likes the feel of it.
All of his bad problems are sensory and I'm just praying that if I keep teaching him by saying "all done" and taking him to something else like the play doh for sensory needs that he gets out of his habbits. He goes crazy at the word "no".
Despite how much work he is I love him more than the world and when he gives me a hug or learns something new it just seems all that more wonderful xxxxx

Timreh
24th February 2014, 11:27
"Shots in the dark" is one of the better documentaries on Vaccines/Autism
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Hervé
24th February 2014, 15:17
CDC caught hiding data showing mercury in vaccines linked to autism (http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-caught-hiding-data-showing-mercury-in-vaccines-linked-to-autism/)

Health Impact News (http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-caught-hiding-data-showing-mercury-in-vaccines-linked-to-autism/) Mon, 24 Feb 2014 06:29 CST

http://www.sott.net/article/274487-CDC-caught-hiding-data-showing-mercury-in-vaccines-linked-to-autism




http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/172219/medium/coleen_boyle_CDC.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/172219/full/coleen_boyle_CDC.jpg)

Dr. Coleen Boyle of the CDC testifies under oath before Congress in November 2012 that the body of evidence shows there is no connection between mercury in vaccines and autism.

In a press release issued this week, one that so far no mainstream media sources have bothered to report, it was announced that Dr. Brian Hooker had finally received documents from the CDC through a Freedom of Information Act that revealed the CDC had access to data linking Thimerosal in vaccines to autism, non-organic sleep disorders, and speech disorders.

Two members of Congress helped Dr. Hooker draft his letter to the CDC, after having spent nearly 10 years submitting over 100 Freedom of Information Acts to no avail.

This information, so far, has been completely blacked out of the mainstream media.

This information is very damaging to the CDC, which has stated for years that there are no studies linking the mercury of Thimerosal in vaccines to autism. You can watch for yourself in the video below the most recent testimony given by the CDC in the November 2012 Congressional Hearing on Autism, where they claim there are no studies linking Thimerosal to autism. Thimerosal is still used today in the flu shot that is administered to pregnant women and infants.

Watch more video highlights of this Congressional hearing on Autism here (http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/video-highlights-from-first-congressional-hearing-on-autism-in-10-years/). Other than C-SPAN, it was mostly ignored in the mainstream media back in November of 2012.

The mainstream media's official position regarding vaccines and autism has been that it has been "proven that there is no link", and Dr. Andrew Wakefield is used as the standard scapegoat being presented as a "disgraced doctor" who supposedly got caught fabricating his study. Of course, Dr. Andrew Wakefield's study has been replicated in at least 28 other studies (http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/new-published-study-verifies-andrew-wakefields-research-on-autism-again/), and no case has ever been won against Dr. Wakefield in a court of law. Litigation is still pending, and one of the doctors who was a co-author in the study has been completely exonerated (http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/british-court-throws-out-conviction-of-autismvaccine-md-andrew-wakefields-co-author-completely-exonerated/) in the U.K.

Yet, the man who supposedly conducted studies for the CDC proving that vaccines do not cause autism, is a wanted criminal for stealing millions of dollars from the CDC, and is still on the run from the law. But that story is seldom, if ever, reported in the mainstream media. (See: CDC Vaccine Link to Autism Scandal: The Wrong Man was Condemned (http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/cdc-vaccine-link-to-autism-scandal-the-wrong-man-was-condemned/))

To understand the autism-vaccine debate one must look outside of the heavily Big Pharma funded mainstream media, such as this report by Emmy Award winning journalist Ben Swann (http://benswann.com/ben-swann-bio/):


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The Canary Party (http://canaryparty.net/index.php/the-news/129-the-canary-partys-new-viral-video-do-vaccines-cause-autism) has also produced an excellent video, narrated by Rob Schnieder:


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Vaccine industry watchdog obtains CDC documents that show statistically significant risks of Autism associated with Thimerosal (http://www.robertscottbell.com/government/vaccine-industry-watchdog-obtains-cdc-documents-that-show-statistically-significant-risks-of-autism-associated-with-thimerosal/)

conk
24th February 2014, 19:16
Research communities or groups that don't vaccinate. Zero autism. The CDC is full of horseshyte and lies.

Mixteca
25th February 2014, 00:21
My nephew often appears to be looking in the other direction, but one of his Drs. said that this may be because of how he perceives and processes visual information. He will appear to be looking about 15 degrees to the right or left, but he may in fact be perceiving you to be right in front of him. The theory is that he sees a bunch of 2 dimensional views of what is in front of him, overlapping, instead of a contstant 3 dimensional panorma. This explains what I call his "swoop". You'll be talking to him and he is looking off to the side, and then all of sudden he'll sort of "swoop" in, really close to you and fix on your eyes then back away to 'normal' interpersonal space.

It makes sense to me if his brain is trying to sort through and process a bunch of overlapping scenes of what is in front of him that when he narrows in on his point of focus he has to "swoop" in to physically to get a fix on it.

What blows me away is just how brilliant he must be to simply move through space at all if this is how his brain processes visual information.
I bring this up just to say that it may be possible your son is seeing more than it appears if he is looking at you but off by some degrees.
Just a thought in case it might be in any way helpful. It may not apply at all.

It was very challenging to get my nephew to use the toilet to. He is so Hypo-sensitive that he often just couldn't feel his body needing to go in time. And then there was the understanding that the toilet was really the only place we wanted him to go. It was really challenging and sometimes traumatic for my sister and brother in law - they were getting a lot of judgment from idiots about that.

Here's wishing you and your son all the best and for this to be a relatively smooth learning process from this point on.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
25th February 2014, 03:39
I don't want to bring negativity in here, but today or yesterday CNN announced that another actor/director died.
I mentioned him in the thread about the recent Gulf War Syndrome testimony from a former troop, I can't remember which PA user posted it, but he did a great job finding the Youtube testimony from a young man who helped invade Iraq and became horrifically ill.

Anyhow, the movie star/director had a very severe and "rare" disease called "autoimmune inflammatory vasculitis", his name was Harold Ramis.
Was pretty famous for comedic roles etc.

Autoimmune inflammatory vasculitis pretty much means, there were periods of time in that man's life where symptoms would flare up,
he would get upset or triggered by something and have an "AttacK" of vasculitis. It causes all kinds of horrible problems, up to and including organ failure and brain damage.

Years ago, some research on my old blog did mention vasculitis in the context of vaccine injury.
I realized that Autistic kids and Gulf War Syndrome people had many of the same symptoms,
and these present as emotional/sensory brain/gut/autoimmune disorders,

some of the sufferers and researchers call it "ASIA" for short, but they are talking about a disease similar to lupus but totally caused by vaccines.

I would not put it past the CDC to hide the truth about ASD and GWS being linked to vaccines.

The groups, children and troops, are at risk due to exposure to vaccines.
That IS the common thread between what is wrong with the troops and what is wrong with the kids.

I know some people still disagree, that's okay, just remember while you disagree that geniuses and high achievers almost always have more allergies,
and keep in mind that more allergies = more severe vaccine reactions in many people.

SIDS used to be the big thing, now it's autism and GWS.

watch the feds and states try to cut back medical benefits for troops and children all across the board.

will there be parades and riots for ASD and veterans' rights, as there were for race wars and gay marriage?

Somehow I doubt anyone will feel well enough to march... but I could be wrong.
People have incredible strength inside them and won't take a diet of crap forever.

We HAVE to wake up before everyone is sick.

God bless you guys for trying so hard.
I wasn't able to apply some of what I learned to the actual experience of dealing with autism first-hand.

:( it's hard.

Synchronicity
25th February 2014, 03:50
But that isn't true. I have known more than one child with autism who wasn't vaccinated.

Synchronicity
25th February 2014, 03:56
My nephew often appears to be looking in the other direction, but one of his Drs. said that this may be because of how he perceives and processes visual information. He will appear to be looking about 15 degrees to the right or left, but he may in fact be perceiving you to be right in front of him. The theory is that he sees a bunch of 2 dimensional views of what is in front of him, overlapping, instead of a contstant 3 dimensional panorma. This explains what I call his "swoop". You'll be talking to him and he is looking off to the side, and then all of sudden he'll sort of "swoop" in, really close to you and fix on your eyes then back away to 'normal' interpersonal space.

It makes sense to me if his brain is trying to sort through and process a bunch of overlapping scenes of what is in front of him that when he narrows in on his point of focus he has to "swoop" in to physically to get a fix on it.

What blows me away is just how brilliant he must be to simply move through space at all if this is how his brain processes visual information.
I bring this up just to say that it may be possible your son is seeing more than it appears if he is looking at you but off by some degrees.
Just a thought in case it might be in any way helpful. It may not apply at all.

It was very challenging to get my nephew to use the toilet to. He is so Hypo-sensitive that he often just couldn't feel his body needing to go in time. And then there was the understanding that the toilet was really the only place we wanted him to go. It was really challenging and sometimes traumatic for my sister and brother in law - they were getting a lot of judgment from idiots about that.

Here's wishing you and your son all the best and for this to be a relatively smooth learning process from this point on.

Also, there is so much sensory input coming at them that they can't process it all at once. As some say, "I can look at you or listen to you, but both at once is just much coming at me. If I look sort of where I see but but it isn't coming at me I can still hear you without it hurting."

I find the sensory sensitivity relates to the energy of the stimulus coming at them and for them it's so strong it's painful. My daughter can watch a movie in a theater only IF she wears the foam earplugs. She listens but doesn't look much or looks and talks to me without my energy coming at her. If I start explaining or the energy gets intense she stops looking at me but is listening. It is interesting to me.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
25th February 2014, 04:50
But that isn't true. I have known more than one child with autism who wasn't vaccinated.

Then we need to differentiate between genetic disorders, which are individually quite rare, and not call them by the same name as diseases caused by vaccine adverse reactions, which are very common.

Are you factoring children born from mothers who were vaccinated at any point?
Are you factoring mothers who were vaccinated while pregnant?
Wives of men who were vaccinated, etc.?

Vertical transmission of viruses enter the equation?

When you say something is not true, please be specific about why.

The recent case of the Amish family who had the inbreeding-generated autism was unique.
There are not many families that have two sets of DNA that code for autism.

There are also kids who have DE NOVO mutations, kids who have cascade mutations and frameshift mutations triggered by bad vaccines, and all kinds of disorders not directly linked to DNA inherited from parents.

So even within the genetic category, you MUST differentiate between disorders and causes before even being able to enter the autism debate.

I hope we have the chance to continue our conversation.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
25th February 2014, 04:56
My nephew often appears to be looking in the other direction, but one of his Drs. said that this may be because of how he perceives and processes visual information. He will appear to be looking about 15 degrees to the right or left, but he may in fact be perceiving you to be right in front of him. The theory is that he sees a bunch of 2 dimensional views of what is in front of him, overlapping, instead of a contstant 3 dimensional panorma. This explains what I call his "swoop". You'll be talking to him and he is looking off to the side, and then all of sudden he'll sort of "swoop" in, really close to you and fix on your eyes then back away to 'normal' interpersonal space.

It makes sense to me if his brain is trying to sort through and process a bunch of overlapping scenes of what is in front of him that when he narrows in on his point of focus he has to "swoop" in to physically to get a fix on it.

What blows me away is just how brilliant he must be to simply move through space at all if this is how his brain processes visual information.
I bring this up just to say that it may be possible your son is seeing more than it appears if he is looking at you but off by some degrees.
Just a thought in case it might be in any way helpful. It may not apply at all.

It was very challenging to get my nephew to use the toilet to. He is so Hypo-sensitive that he often just couldn't feel his body needing to go in time. And then there was the understanding that the toilet was really the only place we wanted him to go. It was really challenging and sometimes traumatic for my sister and brother in law - they were getting a lot of judgment from idiots about that.

Here's wishing you and your son all the best and for this to be a relatively smooth learning process from this point on.

Also, there is so much sensory input coming at them that they can't process it all at once. As some say, "I can look at you or listen to you, but both at once is just much coming at me. If I look sort of where I see but but it isn't coming at me I can still hear you without it hurting."

I find the sensory sensitivity relates to the energy of the stimulus coming at them and for them it's so strong it's painful. My daughter can watch a movie in a theater only IF she wears the foam earplugs. She listens but doesn't look much or looks and talks to me without my energy coming at her. If I start explaining or the energy gets intense she stops looking at me but is listening. It is interesting to me.

This sounds like a de-myelination disorder.
That can be caused by many different things, from mercury poisoning to diabetes to genetic disorders like adrenoleukodystrophy (Lorenzo's Oil), to vaccine-induced diseases like Gulf War Syndrome and types of Lupus.

Some people have autoimmunity that causes stripping of the brain and nerves, you realize we have many cells in the brain that do not transmit signals but rather provide insulation and structural strength, right? There are many causes for missing nerve coating and signals transmitting too far or fast across the human brain.

Also many autistic kids' brains are about 18% heavier than normal, and the cells closer together and more numerous, not necessarily more networked,
and yes people with problems on the 13 or 16th chromosome can be missing the corpus callosum entirely, with or without symptoms of ASD.

the list of possible causes is very long.

but i had a child who "regressed" with typical autism symptoms, and we even had a nurse at Group Health accidentally give him an oral vaccine at the wrong time entirely,
I speak from personal experience when I say that gut and brain disorders (very closely linked in all areas of life) can be caused by vaccines.

People here talk a lot about celiac disease, which is another marker when you are looking for ASD, which is not just a brain disorder but also a mitochondrial struggle and a gut problem.

the brain suffers from everything from too much ammonia in the bloodstream to too much bacterial waste, etc.

there are so many causes it's not even funny, but it has to start somewhere, and when you are playing God with the immune system,
anything can happen if you determine the right time and circumstance of introduction...

:(

p.s. corn syrup and pellagra are another angle of the autism issue that doctors don't often discuss.

especially when giving that Similac sample that is 40+% corn syrup solids.
for babies!! sad world eh?

when prisoners were fed corn diets during an early US experiment,
they also developed pellagra/celiac disease, and so do people who drink too much (corn syrup) soda pop.


there is yet another cause for what doctors refer to as ASD.

:( and it's really dangerous when you consider BPA and flouride in the water.
babies on formula get a lot of bad toxins.

also there are moms who were folate deficient during and after pregnancy.
they almost always get PPD.

Fairy Friend
25th February 2014, 06:44
Unfortunately, we give vaccines when we start to introduce foods and so it is hard to tell which could be a cause. My grandson was speaking and then he lost words and eye contact. The Dr not only resisted something was wrong like autism or Angelman's syndrome and she gave extra shots because he was late in the end of a sequence, contradicting the nurse who told us otherwise. She told my daughter he wouldn't be allowed to go to school without them given. I beg to differ. I feel angry about it.

My grandson would flip out when we had to use a changing table. I thought someone dropped him. Come to find out a lot of kids associate it with the doctors office, not only the painful shots in the office but they get weighed just before and it looks like a changing table. Now he is afraid and I wonder if even he can tell that it changed him and is afraid. Maybe the kids are telling us what's wrong too.

At the end of the day, my grandson sees me, he looks into my eyes where he wasn't before. He says words that were disappearing. He's happy. He sees me. That's all that matters to me right now. Adjusting probiotics, Epsom salt baths, organic foods, fermented vegetables, pH, oxygenating, play and music therapy. Running tests. Whatever works. Right? Not to say I haven't had setbacks.

I see a great future where we will run the right tests and do the right things and fix our own mistakes. The beginning of golden ages are very messy.

Mixteca
25th February 2014, 08:25
[QUOTE=

Also, there is so much sensory input coming at them that they can't process it all at once. As some say, "I can look at you or listen to you, but both at once is just much coming at me. If I look sort of where I see but but it isn't coming at me I can still hear you without it hurting."

I find the sensory sensitivity relates to the energy of the stimulus coming at them and for them it's so strong it's painful. My daughter can watch a movie in a theater only IF she wears the foam earplugs. She listens but doesn't look much or looks and talks to me without my energy coming at her. If I start explaining or the energy gets intense she stops looking at me but is listening. It is interesting to me.[/QUOTE]

This is interesting. Although not diagnosed, I am very energy sensistive and sensitive to auditory stuff as well. One morning a long time ago I came downstairs and my step-father leaned forward in his chair and just smiled at me. Not a word. (knew I can't handle much noise in the morning) But he was SO intent!! I said, "Howard, pleeeeast stop smiling so loud!!"

When I get tired, my brain just doesn't process very particular sounds well. When I was little, the sounds of vacuum cleaners, nail files and violins caused me severe pain at ANYtime. As I got older I could tolerate them fine as long as I wasn't tired.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
1st March 2014, 02:22
Hi guys, thought this was interesting, it came in my email today, almost spam but the topic was a HOT one for us to review.
Consider that "PTSD", like "ASD", is another catch-all phrase for vaccine-induced physical dis-regulation. And other forms of dis-regulation, or dysregulation.

Inflammation PRECEDES PTSD in troops:

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/AnxietyStress/44519?xid=nl_mpt_DHE_2014-02-28&utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DailyHeadlines&utm_source=WC&eun=g738235d0r&userid=738235&email=millerr2009%40live.com&mu_id=5906468

Inflammation May Be PTSD Risk Factor
Published: Feb 27, 2014 | Updated: Feb 27, 2014

By John Gever, Deputy Managing Editor, MedPage Today
Reviewed by F. Perry Wilson, MD, MSCE; Instructor of Medicine, Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania and Dorothy Caputo, MA, BSN, RN, Nurse

High levels of C-reactive protein (CRP), an inflammation marker, were seen in soldiers who later developed post-traumatic stress disorder, researchers said.

Among U.S. Marines and Navy personnel who consented to participate in a prospective study, each 10-fold increment in CRP levels at pre-deployment baseline was associated with a 51% increased likelihood of showing at least one PTSD symptom after deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan (odds ratio 1.51, 95% CI 1.15-1.97, P=0.003), reported Dewleen Baker, MD, of the VA Healthcare System in San Diego, and colleagues.

Writing online in JAMA Psychiatry, the researchers proposed that inflammation may predispose people to develop PTSD.

"If peripheral inflammation contributes to the development of PTSD, interventions to decrease inflammation, such as dietary or lifestyle modifications, might ameliorate the severity of this disorder," they wrote.

Paul E. Schulz, MD, of the University of Texas Health Science Center in Houston, who was not involved with the study, told MedPage Today that a clinical study "to investigate whether lowering CRP leads to a reduced incidence of developing PTSD" would help confirm a cause-and-effect relationship.

Another scholar not associated with the study said it highlighted an exciting area in PTSD research.

"The immune system is really a very complex part of the body, and I think we are just now beginning to understand its role in interactions with psychiatric illness," said Bruce Capehart, MD, of Duke University.

But he suggested that it would be premature to accept the current study as proof that inflammation is causative in PTSD.

He pointed to a lack of "dose-response" in the study -- in particular, that participants with baseline CRP levels higher than 10 ng/mL (well above the mean of 1.93 ng/mL) did not show significantly higher risk of PTSD than those with lower but still above-average CRP values.

"To look at it as one-way causation may not be that simple," Capehart said. "We may be looking at a two-way relationship there. Maybe there is a susceptibility there for some people to have a modestly elevated inflammatory state and a simultaneous greater risk for developing an anxiety disorder."

Study Design and Results

The analysis was part of the prospective Marine Resiliency Study, in which a total of 2,610 Marines and Navy sailors in four cohorts were recruited prior to war-theater deployment for baseline testing and subsequent medical and psychiatric follow-up. Participants were considered physically healthy at baseline.

Psychiatric follow-up was conducted after the conclusion of 7-month deployments at 3 months and again at 6 months. Data from both visits were available for 1,617 participants.

Mean participant age was about 23 but ranged from 18 to 48. CRP levels at baseline averaged 1.93 ng/mL (SD 3.31); the median level was 0.79 and the full range was 0.03 to 28.53. About half the cohort had been deployed before and the median time in military service was 3 years.

PTSD was evaluated with the Clinician-Administered PTSD Scale (CAPS); mean baseline scores were 14.89 (SD 15.37). Other psychiatric assessments included the Beck anxiety and depression scales. Participants were asked about deployment-related trauma at the 3-month visit.

Overall, the prevalence of PTSD did not change markedly post- versus pre-deployment. Diagnoses of PTSD were made in 4.7% of participants at baseline and in 6.3% and 5.1% at the 3- and 6-month evaluations after conclusion of deployment.

Mean CAPS scores at the 3- and 6-month points were 17.40 (SD 18.01) and 15.41 (SD 17.39), respectively (P versus baseline not reported).

Baker and colleagues used a statistical method called zero-inflated negative binomial regression for their analyses of baseline factors in association with post-deployment CAPS scores. This was intended to compensate for data distributions "that have an excess of zeroes in addition to being positively skewed," they explained.

Under this method, measures of combat exposure and potentially traumatic battlefield experiences were significantly associated with CAPS scores at the 3-month post-deployment visit, with odds ratios of 1.03 (95% CI 1.01-1.05) and 1.08 (95% CI 1.03-1.13), respectively in a "zero model" indicating presence versus absence of any PTSD symptom.

In a "count model," indicating the extent of symptoms when present, scores for combat exposure, battlefield experience, and 10-fold increment in CRP were associated with post-deployment CAPS score as follows:

Combat exposure: OR 1.01 (P=0.001)
Battlefield experience: OR 1.04 (P<0.001)
Log CRP: OR 1.06 (P=0.09)
Looking at the data more simply, Baker and colleagues calculated that, after adjusting for combat exposure and battlefield experience scores, those with PTSD symptoms at the 6-month visit had mean baseline CRP levels of 1.0 ng/mL, versus about 0.77 ng/mL for those without post-deployment symptoms (P<0.05).

What Does It Mean?

Schulz said the inflammation-PTSD relationship was definitely plausible on the basis of several lines of research. For example, he told MedPage Today in an email, previous traumatic brain injury is a known risk factor for PTSD, and the mechanism may involve chronic brain inflammation resulting from the injury. Other lines of research have implicated immunological factors in promoting susceptibility to PTSD, he said.

But he acknowledged that CRP in the study could also have served as a marker for pre-existing stress and anxiety.

"Several of the papers we reviewed as part of a 'review of the risk factors for PTSD' suggested that a personal history of anxiety, a family history of anxiety, and a family history of depression, are risk factors for developing PTSD," Schulz said. He also noted that previous research had identified dozens of other risk factors for PTSD.

Psychologist David Blackburn, PhD, of Temple Mental Health Center in Temple, Texas, part of the Scott & White Healthcare system, who also was not involved with the study, told MedPage Today that future investigations into the relationship should take a broader perspective.

"I think subsequent research needs to not only involve military members who have PTSD, but also civilians who also have PTSD; this would strengthen the study," he said in an email. "In addition, more longitudinal studies over longer periods of time would also strengthen the relationship are proposing."

Capehart said the complexity of the mind-body relationship when it comes to PTSD "makes it a very exciting time to be practicing psychiatry."

[B]The study was funded by the U.S. government.

Authors declared they had no relevant financial interests.

___________________________________________________________

Even if the gov't has to admit to injuring these people, it's better to say so now and stop doing it!

read between the lines above and listen to what your gut is telling you.
the people who bash the study want it diluted.

They don't want a military-only study to happen and be accepted.
the critics of this gov't study think "civilians should be grouped with military" when civilians did NOT receive the vaccines we did.

DUH :(

Hervé
1st March 2014, 14:48
In a comment to this article (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/nixon-rockefeller-ig-farben-and-global-control/) (<---), I ran into this:

February 28, 2014 at 5:47 pm (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/nixon-rockefeller-ig-farben-and-global-control/#comment-61067)
Michael Burns (http://gravatar.com/lburns432) says:

Bayer Chemical Corporation part of the original six that made up IG Farben, lost it rights to its name in the United States, after its atrocities in the WWI. It was the manufacturer of mustard gas, amongst other corruptions.

Interesting fact here: Bayer the maker of Aspirin was also the maker of a child’s cough medicine with heroin as its major ingredient. When physicians noticed the highly addictive qualities of the new Bayer product, Bayer was ordered to stop manufacture and distribution of the new product. It took some time for this to happen. Bayer unimpeded, were allowed to sell the product in the third world, and market the product globally for another 15 years; Heroin is an original Bayer trademark.

When Bayer merged with IG Farben it was part and parcel of the Nazi exterminators. Farben even requested during the war that the Reich set up of camps for trials of their poisons and chemicals. Farben was against the Wehrmacht Republic totally and its interests in world domination lay only with the Third Reich, it backed it financially, and fully supported, if not having a hand in creating Adolf and his band of renown’s. Farben threw a lot of money into the Third Reich. The corruption here gets so deep you would need a shovel…actually a backhoe…maybe a lot of backhoes. One could list endless crimes, Ad Nauseum.

After the Nuremburg IG Farben trial, Farben was broke back down into its smaller components. Bayer and three others bought up the assets of the original six. The managing executives were given light sentence of one and half to eight years, they went back to their old dictatorial positions before the formation of IG Farben. The CEO of Farben became head of the new Bayer Corporation; in 1954 Bayer set up a new company in the United States with Monsanto to produce and sell Polyurethanes.
The new company was called MOBAY.

Bayer… along with helping Monsanto become a chemical giant, and selling polyurethanes in the United States via MOBAY, also taught Monsanto everything it knew about chemicals, especially pesticides. Monsanto became privy to hidden study documents. You see Zyklon B the gas used in extermination camps was a pesticide originally. It was cyanide based and needed a warning odor added because cyanide was hard to recognize. Its subtle almond smell needed a bit of enhancement, except when it was sold to the extermination camps. There was no odor to the gas in the camps. This was material evidence to the investigators of their knowledge of what was going on inside the camps.

Bayer has changed and is larger than ever. Bayer Crop Science is an extension of the original Bayer. It is an Agricultural giant. Bayer has a lot of history in their vaults, they inherited it from IG Farben, and the other corporations after the break-up, including scientific studies, pesticides trials on humans; records, data from the atrocities of the camps, the list goes on. Some of the most horrendous human studies using chemicals are still available.

Michael

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Anyone still believe "they" are just sorcerer's apprentices and don't know what they are doing?

Hervé
7th March 2014, 12:29
Suddenly...

... walls and a room appeared around the elephant:

Lawsuit challenges US FDA on dental amalgam mercury (http://www.hazmatmag.com/news/new-lawsuit-challenges-us-fda-on-dental-amalgam-mercury/1002949225/?&er=NA)

HazMatt (http://www.hazmatmag.com/news/new-lawsuit-challenges-us-fda-on-dental-amalgam-mercury/1002949225/?&er=NA)
Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:01 CST


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The lawsuit suggests that the largest user of dental amalgam is the U.S. government, which uses amalgam for welfare recipients, prisoners, those residing on Indian Reservations, and the military, serving largely low-income people, including women and children, who are given no other options.

A new lawsuit claims that despite growing evidence of harm caused by dental amalgam, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) continues to delay the protection of public health against mercury tooth fillings.

The case has a number of plaintiffs, including the International Academy of Oral Medicine & Toxicology, which claim that the FDA has failed to respond within a reasonable time to petitions calling for either a formal ban of dental amalgam use, or placement in FDA's Class III, which requires: 1) additional restrictions for vulnerable individuals; 2) more stringent proof of safety; and 3) an Environmental Impact Statement.

According to attorney James M. Love, who filed the lawsuit on March 5, 2014, American consumers and dental professionals are being misled by the American Dental Association (ADA) -- the largest and most powerful advocate for continued amalgam use.

"The ADA has misrepresented FDA's lack of regulation as proof of safety, and continues to use this toxic dental filling, despite scientifically demonstrated risks," said Love. "Most individuals remain unaware that those 'silver' fillings, prevalently used as a dental restoration and covered by insurance policies, consist of 45-55 per cent metallic mercury, and that there are health and environmental risks associated with those fillings."

Top scientists have repeatedly warned the FDA of the risk of harm caused by dental fillings, the lawsuit notes. For example, a February 2014 study, "[n]ew science challenges old notion that mercury dental amalgam is safe (http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10534-013-9700-9)," published in the peer-reviewed journal, Biometals, uses the same studies cited by FDA in 2006, demonstrating that children are particularly at risk for mercury poisoning.

The lawsuit suggests that the largest user of dental amalgam is the U.S. government, which uses amalgam for welfare recipients, prisoners, those residing on Indian Reservations, and the military, serving largely low-income people, including women and children, who are given no other options.