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Rex
25th February 2014, 22:24
Just something I stumbled across looking up something at Yale University. The name of the project is interesting :D

Part 1/Section 3 starts it off:

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/athemain.asp

Now the ancient constitution, as it existed before the time of Draco, was organized as follows. The magistrates were elected according to qualifications of birth and wealth. At first they governed for life, but subsequently for terms of ten years. The first magistrates, both in date and in importance, were the King, the Polemarch, and the Archon. The earliest of these offices was that of the King, which existed from ancestral antiquity. To this was added, secondly, the office of Polemarch, on account of some of the kings proving feeble in war; for it was on this account that Ion was invited to accept the post on an occasion of pressing need. The last of the three offices was that of the Archon, which most authorities state to have come into existence in the time of Medon. Others assign it to the time of Acastus, and adduce as proof the fact that the nine Archons swear to execute their oaths 'as in the days of Acastus,' which seems to suggest that it was in his time that the descendants of Codrus retired from the kingship in return for the prerogatives conferred upon the Archon. Whichever way it may be, the difference in date is small; but that it was the last of these magistracies to be created is shown by the fact that the Archon has no part in the ancestral sacrifices, as the King and the Polemarch have, but exclusively in those of later origin. So it is only at a comparatively late date that the office of Archon has become of great importance, through the dignity conferred by these later additions. The Thesmothetae were many years afterwards, when these offices had already become annual, with the object that they might publicly record all legal decisions, and act as guardians of them with a view to determining the issues between litigants. Accordingly their office, alone of those which have been mentioned, was never of more than annual duration.

This looks like an interesting course:

http://oyc.yale.edu/transcript/161/clcv-205

...In Athens, the magistrates were called archons. It means, in the most technical sense, rulers, but it means really important magistrates in the state. One of these was called the War archon, polemarch, presumably he led the army. Next came the archonwho was actually the most important archon, the one who gave his name to the year. I think I mentioned the Greeks did not have a system of dating, which has a starting point, and so you can say one, two, three, four, five. Instead, like many ancient peoples, they named the year after the leading archon, the leading magistrate of the state; Mesopotamian cities did the same thing. So that archon was called the archon eponymous, the one who gives his name to the state....

I've barely skimmed but it sure seems like they're talking about THE Archons.

Maybe this Aristotle material is something someone here is already familiar with?

christian
25th February 2014, 22:31
I've barely skimmed but it sure seems like they're talking about THE Archons.

Maybe this Aristotle material is something someone here is already familiar with?

Just reading over what you've posted, I think "archon" here relates to a common title back in Ancient Greece, not to the beings described in Gnostic writings.

This is from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon):


Archon (Gr. ἄρχων, pl. ἄρχοντες) is a Greek word that means "ruler" or "lord," frequently used as the title of a specific public office. [...] In ancient Greece the chief magistrate in various Greek city states was called Archon. The term was also used throughout Greek history in a more general sense, ranging from "club leader" to "master of the tables" at syssitia.

Karma Ninja
26th February 2014, 05:10
Hey Deadfoot. I was just recently introduced to some of the material you posted above and have only begun to work my way through it. I believe you are looking at a document that explains in legal/bibllical terms how we are all caught in a game to try and recapture our freedom.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/medieval/excheq.asp#b1p1

This is the 'dialogue of the exchequer' and I am told it explains how the game is played. Once I understand more I will try and shed more light on what is being discussed in this Yale Law document.

Atlas
26th February 2014, 10:49
I've barely skimmed but it sure seems like they're talking about THE Archons.

Maybe this Aristotle material is something someone here is already familiar with?

Just reading over what you've posted, I think "archon" here relates to a common title back in Ancient Greece, not to the beings described in Gnostic writings.

This is from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon):


Archon (Gr. ἄρχων, pl. ἄρχοντες) is a Greek word that means "ruler" or "lord," frequently used as the title of a specific public office. [...] In ancient Greece the chief magistrate in various Greek city states was called Archon. The term was also used throughout Greek history in a more general sense, ranging from "club leader" to "master of the tables" at syssitia.




Archon: from Greek archai, "origins, beginning things, prior in time."

In the classical Mediterranean world, archon was commonly used for the governor of a province, or, more loosely, any religious or governmental authority. Hence the plural, Archons, is often translated in Gnostic texts as "the Authorities." (There is no Coptic word for Archon, so Gnostic texts use the Greek term in Coptic transliteration.)

bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons02.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons02.htm)

araucaria
26th February 2014, 11:25
The Greek root means to initiate or begin, hence to rule in the sense of leading. The Greek archon was rather like the Roman consul or a modern minister. It’s just a title. So when Germans these days talk about the Führer, they might just be referring to a team leader, or a tourist guide or guidebook. No big deal.
:)

mosquito
26th February 2014, 12:30
.... in English, verbs can have 1 of 2 voices - active or passive. In Greek, there is a third, called (brilliantly) middle. The middle serves somewhat like the reflexive verbs in French and Spanish, i.e. something we do on behalf of ourselves, rather than to a direct object.

The Greek verb ἀρχείν, that's the infinitive, has both an active and a middle form, as follows .....
ἄρχω (archo) "I rule" (hence - monarchy, anarchy etc.)
ἄρχομαι (archomai) "I start/begin/commence" (hence - architecture, archaeology)

.. all of which can lead to confusion when we try to fathom out the meaning of words beginning archo-