Megaliths found in Southern Siberia

[Lefty Dave]

https://www.academia.edu/6200990/Super_Megaliths_in_Gornaya_Shoria_Southern_Siberia


I'd sure like to know more about this site....who built these walls, and when, and HOW !

Amazing.
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[meat suit]

EPIC! great find...

[linksplatinum]

That's pretty awesome, thanks for the post

[Firinn]

Many thanks for posting this Lefty Dave, it's HUGE! pardon the pun :). How are the "Establishment" going to explain this one away?

[Roisin]

Could someone please copy/paste that article in Lefty's post into a post here? I can't access that page for some reason. thanks!

PS -- Just accessed it. thanks!


" Megaliths in Gornaya Shoria, Southern Siberia

I subscribe to a couple of Russian Blogs and Websites that post various data and information without the typical hype and filters of Western Science, Academia and the Press, let alone the fringe and "Alien" woo-woo crowd interests. The following are photos of some Super Megaliths from Southern Siberia near the mountains of Gornaya Shoria. The super megaliths were found and photographed for the first time by Georgy Sidorov on a recent expedition to the Southern Siberian mountains. The following images are from Valery Uvarov's Russian website. There are no measurements given, but from the scale depicted by the human figures, these megaliths are much larger (as much as 2 to 3 times larger) than the largest known megaliths in the world. (Example: The Pregnant Woman Stone of Baalbek, Lebanon weighs in at approximately 1,260 ton). Some of these megaliths could easily weigh upwards of 3,000 to 4,000 tons. There is little commentary on Valery's site, so the images are displayed here without much comments, other than my own limited observations. Posted on my Blog on 2-22 here: http://earthepochs.blogspot.com/2014/02/super-megaliths.html

These megaliths reach well back into the mists of pre-history, so far in fact, that conjecture about their 'builders', methods, purpose and meaning is pure speculation, and as such, I would hesitate to offer any observation at all, other than to say our pre-historical past is richer than we ever dreamed."

View the photos on that page.

Quote above is from the link that Lefty Dave gave us. This is fascinating!

[ThePythonicCow]

View the photos on that page.

Quote above is from the link that Lefty Dave gave us. This is fascinating!
Fascinating, indeed!

Here's one of those images, copied to my website and linked in here. Notice the men standing at the base -- those rocks are humongous!

http://thepythoniccow.us/Siberia_Megalith_DSC_015.jpg

[aviators]

Wow this is amazing ! More and more discovery's like this coming to the front. Its hard to understand how this has been hidden for so long?

[seeker/reader]

I wonder what the stones are made out of. In these pictures they look like weathered, lichen covered granite. Damn, they gotta be heavy!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QXIcD4ngxFo/UwlwAgA4hEI/AAAAAAAAM6c/h_Iudr_N5QQ/s1600/DSC_011.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C7OzQM7XgGY/UwlwBIIsSRI/AAAAAAAAM6k/Nd0YTyfkjYA/s1600/DSC_012.jpg

[Lefty Dave]

Good evening and greetings to all
This indeed 'rocked my world' when I saw it this morning at Rumormillnews
Don't know much more about the find,... maybe someone can look into it.

Thanks for all your replies...Firinn...they'll say it was some cave dwelling Siberiens with chisels and stones..L O L
Blessings all
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[Lifebringer]

Perhaps the "mysterious meteor" that supposedly hit Siberia and leveled the trees, was not a meteor and perhaps part of the "God Wars," as Sitchen, and Lana Cantrell are revealing to fill in the blanks. Sitchen and Cantrell both describe the 5 emotions the Gods faced that caused them to battle. Coveting others' wife, stealing the love of one through rape, and other little diddies I'm still reading in Cantrell's "The Greatest Story Never Told." However, after reading Sitchen's Wars of Gods and Men, it's appearing like there was lots of rivalry and birthright theft of title at times to obtain power, even though one stood not to inherit the post. If such weapons that disintergrated rock EMR and radiation (use of nukes) and electric shock EMP were used back then, it's very possible, that they'll be used again. On pages 119 she mentions EMR's and on page 122 the mention of "elixir" as a fuel. Also on page 127 electrol magnetic power to part the seas to pass. Facinating, but they are all mentioned including the words missiles, in the Veda texts. They are celestial weapons, and the digging and retrieving and back engineering to create massive war weapons of the powers that were. They aren't digging in everybody's ancient caverns and digging up civilizations, for nothing.

I wouldn't put it past them to be distracting Syria in the streets, as they pillage ancient golds and jewels. Thievery is not above them, if it means holding the past and future firmly in their control.

Lana Cantrell's book the Greatest Story Never Told is available free in pdf, it's how I still have it, but it's given many an answer to the reasons "our" wars in these lands are being faught, in the quest for the most efficient weapon to wipe out memory, lives and civilisations, and the very reason, the Divine Intervention had to occur then also, as it will again. As time flies here in 3d, the universal karmic laws occur faster. Sometimes within days of causing it. Buckle up is right. Let's hope they don't find those weapons, or in the case of defense against the malevolent 3d ET's, let's hope we find them first? Lana Cantrell despises Saganites ego factsego facts, that reinforce false ideology, in the science world. They let her gendre stop her facts from being printed and evidence to back it up and did not take "her" work serious, and have ignored facts. She's far better educated than they are, and has "completed" "ALL"studies as archaeological, historian, and physio-microbiologist. Her credentials are endless and the best I've seen since Sitchen's. I had to look it up, to get the pdf, but was well worth the search to compare to Sitchen's. The more things stay the same, so to speak, when in print or understanding of the origin of humanity.
If you want my take on things, I'd say clearly Sitchen's and Cantrell's books bare witness to the truth of the origins of humanity and the presence of God like beings that displayed powers beyong human's ability at that time. And isn't that the question you keep hearing when they dare to broach the subject in MSM? Are they just tossing it out to see what will stick, or will the rabbit hole end with the same answers humans sought the last 4 times? Cantrells book is over a 1000 pages, but worth taking on vacation this year, to allow the mind to free itself of human imposed bias wrongs of gov/religious persuasion. True tis good for the faith teachings, but half a lesson, is no lesson, if ye seek not the other half.

[Atlas]

S_Yi2qDo5p4


If the grain of the rock matches from block to block it is natural. If the grain does not match from block to block it is constructed. One does not need to be a geologist to notice mineral streaks or veins cutting thru as more obvious indicators of it being a natural formation. Upon close observation one will notice the granite has a composition of different minerals. These form a texture that varies in grain size and gives granite a very distinct look depending on where it was originally formed. In megalithic ruins the blocks were each quarried and used for construction and the original orientation of the grain when the granite was in situ was shifted from block to block as construction of a megalith site commenced. Likely this site is a natural formation based on what I see.

(Source (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.435853863203273.1073741952.208845839237411&type=3))

[Eram]

It looks like heavy granite indeed.

Normally, whenever there is a site where they make megaliths, there is also a site where they use them to build something.
I wonder what it was in this case... and if it will be found soon.

Or, are the blocks the supposed construction itself?

great find lefty Dave! :thumb:

[Lefty Dave]

S_Yi2qDo5p4


If the grain of the rock matches from block to block it is natural. If the grain does not match from block to block it is constructed. One does not need to be a geologist to notice mineral streaks or veins cutting thru as more obvious indicators of it being a natural formation. Upon close observation one will notice the granite has a composition of different minerals. These form a texture that varies in grain size and gives granite a very distinct look depending on where it was originally formed. In megalithic ruins the blocks were each quarried and used for construction and the original orientation of the grain when the granite was in situ was shifted from block to block as construction of a megalith site commenced. Likely this site is a natural formation based on what I see.

(Source (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.435853863203273.1073741952.208845839237411&type=3))

Thanks so much BAURUS for the video...I don't agree with the Jarrod Parker explanation...but the video is GREAT !!!

[Atlas]

Hi Lefty Dave, thanks for this very interesting thread. I try to keep an open mind concerning the 'manmade' origin of the structure.

Gornaya Shoria is included in the list of 200 world UNESCO natural complexes of global ecological significance.

Pirvonen posted: "There are formations with large, somewhat rectangular granite blocks in many places. Admittedly the ones I have seen were of smaller block sizes than this one." here: mysteriousuniverse.org/super-megalithic-site-found-in-russia-natural-or-man-made (http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/02/super-megalithic-site-found-in-russia-natural-or-man-made/).

David Grégoire (http://wands-of-horus.com/en/blog-en/pyramids-blog-en/236-megaliticheskie-ssoruzheniya-gornoj-shorii-rossiya.html) also says: "I can only say 3 words... natural geological formation." showing an image of the Yosemite Park as an example:

http://www.yosemite.ca.us/library/geologic_story_of_yosemite/images/36.jpg

[Hervé]

Thanks Buares, I do agree with Jarrod Parker from what I can observe on the pictures and video: a nicely outcropping granitic pluton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluton)!



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Yosemite_20_bg_090404.jpg

Half Dome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Dome), Yosemite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite), a classic granite dome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite_dome) and popular rock climbing destination







http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/The_Cheesewring.jpg

The Cheesewring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesewring), a granite tor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_%28rock_formation%29) on the southern edge of Bodmin Moor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodmin_Moor), Cornwall

[STR]

Very cool and very neat 'natural' rock formations. I honestly see nothing but natural rock formations and caves, some of which man took advantage of but I don't see any real evidence these are worked stones. Not like other megalithic structures anyway. It could be some exposed surfaces have signs of man but I doubt these stones the guys are standing by are uniform or flat and worked on all sides. It is cool tho.

[Shezbeth]

A corresponding article appeared today at thetruthwins.com:

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/newly-found-megalithic-ruins-in-russia-contain-the-largest-blocks-of-stone-ever-discovered


An incredible discovery that was recently made in Russia threatens to shatter conventional theories about the history of the planet. On Mount Shoria in southern Siberia, researchers have found an absolutely massive wall of granite stones. Some of these gigantic granite stones are estimated to weigh more than 3,000 tons, and as you will see below, many of them were cut “with flat surfaces, right angles, and sharp corners”. Nothing of this magnitude has ever been discovered before. The largest stone found at the megalithic ruins at Baalbek, Lebanon is less than 1,500 tons. So how in the world did someone cut 3,000 ton granite stones with extreme precision, transport them up the side of a mountain and stack them 40 meters high? According to the commonly accepted version of history, it would be impossible for ancient humans with very limited technology to accomplish such a thing. Could it be possible that there is much more to the history of this planet than we are being taught?

[Atlas]

Gornaya Shoria is a natural formation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/%C5%9Al%C4%85skie_Kamienie_-_D%C3%ADv%C4%8Di_Kameny.JPG

[michaelv]

The Largest Blocks Of Stone Ever Discovered

An incredible discovery that was recently made in Russia threatens to shatter conventional theories about the history of the planet. On Mount Shoria in southern Siberia, researchers have found an absolutely massive wall of granite stones. Some of these gigantic granite stones are estimated to weigh more than 3,000 tons, and as you will see below, many of them were cut “with flat surfaces, right angles, and sharp corners”. Nothing of this magnitude has ever been discovered before. The largest stone found at the megalithic ruins at Baalbek, Lebanon is less than 1,500 tons. So how in the world did someone cut 3,000 ton granite stones with extreme precision, transport them up the side of a mountain and stack them 40 meters high? According to the commonly accepted version of history, it would be impossible for ancient humans with very limited technology to accomplish such a thing. Could it be possible that there is much more to the history of this planet than we are being taught?

http://www.truthfeed.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Russian-Megalthic-Ruins-Discovered-1.jpg

For years, historians and archaeologists have absolutely marveled at the incredibly huge stones found at Baalbek. But some of these stones in Russia are reportedly more than twice the size. Needless to say, a lot of people are getting very excited about this discovery. The following comes from a Mysterious Universe article…

Alternate history buffs are about to be whipped into a frenzy! OK, maybe not, but they will find this interesting.

An ancient “super-megalithic” site has been found in the Siberian Mountains. Found recently in Gornaya Shoria (Mount Shoria) in southern Siberia, this site consists of huge blocks of stone, which appear to be granite, with flat surfaces, right angles, and sharp corners. The blocks appear to be stacked, almost in the manner of cyclopean masonry, and well…they’re enormous!

Russia is no stranger to ancient megalithic sites, like Arkaim or Russia’s Stonehenge, and the Manpupuner formation, just to name two, but the site at Shoria is unique in that, if it’s man-made, the blocks used are undoubtedly the largest ever worked by human hands.

When I say that this is a new discovery, I am not kidding. In fact, the very first expedition to study these stones happened just a few months ago. Prior to this expedition, there were no known photographs of these megalithic stones. Archaeologist John Jensen is mystified by these ancient ruins, and the following is an excerpt from a post on his personal blog…

The super megaliths were found and photographed for the first time by Georgy Sidorov on a recent expedition to the Southern Siberian mountains. The following images are from Valery Uvarov’s Russian website.

There are no measurements given, but from the scale depicted by the human figures, these megaliths are much larger (as much as 2 to 3 times larger) than the largest known megaliths in the world. (Example: The Pregnant Woman Stone of Baalbek, Lebanon weighs in at approximately 1,260 ton). Some of these megaliths could easily weigh upwards of 3,000 to 4,000 tons.

http://www.truthfeed.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Russian-Megalthic-Ruins-Discovered-8.jpg
http://www.truthfeed.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Mount-Shoria-2.jpg


These stones are likely to remain an unsolved mystery for a very long time.

But what is abundantly clear is that according to the commonly accepted version of history they should not be there.

And of course this is far from the only site around the world that contains massive megalithic ruins. Perhaps the most famous are the megalithic ruins at Baalbek, Lebanon…
http://www.truthfeed.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Baalbek-Stone.jpg
The ancient city of Baalbek is one of the greatest archaeological mysteries of all time. Located east of the Litani River in the Bekaa Valley of Lebanon, Baalbek is world famous for its exquisitely detailed yet monumentally scaled Roman temple ruins. In Roman times, Baalbek was known as Heliopolis (after the sun god) and it contained some of the largest and most notable Roman temples ever built. In fact, the Romans had constructed an extraordinary temple complex in Baalbek consisting of three separate temples – one for Jupiter, one for Bacchus and one for Venus. But what these Roman temples were built on top of is much more important. These Roman temples were actually built on top of an ancient 5 million square foot platform that was made from some of the largest stones ever used in any construction project in the history of the earth. In fact, the largest stone found near the Baalbek ruins weighs approximately 1200 tons and is about 64 feet long. To put that in perspective, that is the equivalent of approximately 156 full size African elephants.

How people in ancient times were able to move such massive stones is a complete mystery. In fact, these giant construction stones were stacked so closely together that you can’t even fit a piece of paper between many of them. Many of the architectural feats found at Baalbek cannot even be duplicated with 21st century technology.

So how did they do it?
How did they move such massive stones to create a structure of such intricate precision?
Keep in mind that the base of the Baalbek ruins alone weighs approximately 5 billion tons.
Evidence continues to mount that very sophisticated technology was used in the ancient world.
These megalithic ruins are undeniable reminders of highly advanced ancient civilizations.
So who were they and what happened to them?


Source..http://crumlishreport.com/the-largest-blocks-of-stone-ever-discovered/

[Hervé]

See this thread: Megaliths found in Southern Siberia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68946-Megaliths-found-in-Southern-Siberia)

[aranuk]

I saw these pics before and read the article above. What I would like to know is why there are no pics which show the stones from farther away so you could see the formation of the walls. I read somewhere that they could be a natural formation. From what pics I have seen I am not convinced they were actually built into a wall. On the other hand the site at Baalbek is certainly amazing and NOT a natural occurance.

Stan

[Sidney]

I saw these pics before and read the article above. What I would like to know is why there are no pics which show the stones from farther away so you could see the formation of the walls. I read somewhere that they could be a natural formation. From what pics I have seen I am not convinced they were actually built into a wall. On the other hand the site at Baalbek is certainly amazing and NOT a natural occurance.

Stan

Hi Stan, try this.
http://media.englishrussia.com/022013/shoriya/shoria002-22.jpg

I plugged Mount shoria megalithic stones into google images, and there are a few good photos there mixed in with other random stuff. linked here

https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=785&q=mount+shoria+megalithic+stones&oq=mount+shoria+megalithic+stones&gs_l=img.3..0.1985.10508.0.10675.30.11.0.19.19.0.266.1341.5j4j2.11.0....0...1ac.1.40.img..3.27.794.j CtplP0R4rA

[Billy]

See this thread: Megaliths found in Southern Siberia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68946-Megaliths-found-in-Southern-Siberia)

Threads Merged.

Peace

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

my post got annihilated by the merge lol

damn the luck.

i was asking if Pulleys, water floats, or sand ramps could account for the stones' placement.
also asked about the Moai and what you guys think.

i mentioned Blade of the Immortal where one of the Kenshi from Itto Ryu speaks of how his thin body can control a heavy barbarian axe by lightly manipulating the natural course of the weapon -- riding gravity so to speak...

i used to wonder about the pyramids too... did they drop the stones onto wooden wheel sections that were strapped to the blocks and rolled up ramps with help from pulleys?

:)

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you silly Billy post eater lol

[Billy]

:)

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you silly Billy post eater lol

Thank you for the smile Tesla.


I am truly sorry dear sister. :ohwell:

:hug:

[Atlas]

Some more pics:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-13.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-16.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-43.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-17.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-20.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-26.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-27.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-30.png

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-32.jpg

[Atlas]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-34.png

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-35.png

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-36.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-37.png

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-39.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-40.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-42.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-12.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-14.jpg

[Atlas]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-28.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-29.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-31.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-38.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-41.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoria002-11.png

[Hervé]

Thanks Buares!

These sure are big pieces of rock!

However, I am far from convinced they qualify as "megalithic" stones because:

What's the structure?

Megalith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A megalith is a large stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_%28geology%29) that has been used to construct a structure or monument, either alone or together with other stones. The word "megalithic" describes structures made of such large stones, utilizing an interlocking system without the use of mortar or cement, as well as representing periods of prehistory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory) characterised by such constructions. For later periods the term monolith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith), with an overlapping meaning, is more likely to be used.

The word "megalith" comes from the Ancient Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) "μέγας" (megas) meaning "great" and "λίθος" (lithos) meaning "stone." Megalith also denotes an item consisting of rock(s) hewn in definite shapes for special purposes.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-3) It has been used to describe buildings built by people from many parts of the world living in many different periods. A variety of large stones are seen as megaliths, with the most widely known megaliths not being sepulchral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepulchral).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-4) The construction of these structures took place mainly in the Neolithic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic) (though earlier Mesolithic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesolithic) examples are known) and continued into the Chalcolithic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-5)


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As far as I can see, the only "structures" I can figure out are those which naturally occur with granitic outcrops. I don't see anything like a Machu Pichu wall or a Great wall of China nor a henge, dolmen or menhir... i.e. something sticking out of the landscape.

These rocks ARE the landscape!

[Flash]

wow, really nice, any idea of the age of it, and Siberia, rather cold, when could they have been put up?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

We had some square glacial (sandstone?) rocks on our farm -- deposited near hilltops.

But -- they were not stacked up like those.
It's suspicious, lol.

The fact that it looks natural makes me more suspicious.
Because that's exactly what pioneers would have done.

Space pioneers.

[Atlas]

wow, really nice, any idea of the age of it, and Siberia, rather cold, when could they have been put up?

I'm not a geologist but maybe this document can help:

Late Riphean Plagiogranites of Kuznetskii Alatau: Composition, Age, and Sources (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/TRES1277.pdf) (2005/2006)

Recently, it has been established that Late Riphean–Early Vendian(?) and Late Vendian–Early Cambrianophiolitic associations, which extend as belts along the Kuznetskii Alatau deep fault, are the oldest igneous rocks in Kuznetskii Alatau and Gornaya Shoria (Fig. 1).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/TRES1277.pdf
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"The Riphean is a stage or age of the geologic timescale from 1,400 to 800 million years ago."
Source: wikipedia.org/Riphean_(stage) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riphean_(stage))

[Michel Leclerc]

Lefty Dave, thanks for sharing this with us.

The megaliths are magnificent, and the photographs are excellent.

I concur with your idea about their size.

What strikes me is what appears as a displacement of the megaliths due to geological forces (?), on the 2nd and 4rd photograph. This would raise questions about strength of these forces, age of the megaliths etc., rendering this find as puzzling and revealing as the Puma Punku site.

What do you, and what do other members think?

Michel

[Michel Leclerc]

Dear fellow members, I should have read your earlier reactions first. The newcomer's mistake; sorry!

Also -- a lot more of these photographs. One would like to be there.

Natural formations as well as artificial interlocking prisms, is my impression. Straight lines curved and broken by geological upheaval.

Michel

[Hervé]

Well... if there were such destructive forces as invoked for disjointing the alleged structure...

WTF is this doing standing up:


http://cdn.ancient-origins.net/cdn/farfuture/DNPDGLlvM9_-x0sA_tABPZnw66CBHht1YRJnkENDUjc/mtime:1393674828/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/siberia-megaliths-1.jpg?itok=4tTa6yHx

?

... strongly reminiscent of those:


Gornaya Shoria is a natural formation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/%C5%9Al%C4%85skie_Kamienie_-_D%C3%ADv%C4%8Di_Kameny.JPG

... otherwise known as "tors":


Tor (rock formation) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_%28rock_formation%29)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A tor is a large, free-standing residual mass (rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_%28geology%29) outcrop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outcrop)) that rises abruptly from the surrounding smooth and gentle slopes of a rounded hill summit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit) or ridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridge) crest. In the South West of England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_West_England), the term is commonly also used for the hills themselves – particularly the high points of Dartmoor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmoor) in Devon and Bodmin Moor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodmin_Moor) in Cornwall.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_%28rock_formation%29#cite_note-Goudie2004a-1)



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Kit-Mikayi.JPG/800px-Kit-Mikayi.JPG
Kit-Mikayi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit-Mikayi), a celebrated tor near Kisumu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisumu), Kenya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya)






Anyway...

I was looking for a map location for "Gornaya Shoria (Mount Shoria)" to compare with the geological map in the paper buares posted above... no luck so far :(

[seeker/reader]

I do have a background in geology. I am no expert but I do have a M.S. in geology, for whatever that is worth. LOL. :p

Granite is typically emplaced in plutons at great depth and under great pressure. When that over burden rock is removed the rock's over-pressure is removed and expansion occurs resulting in jointing.

[Atlas]

I was looking for a map location for "Gornaya Shoria (Mount Shoria)" to compare with the geological map in the paper buares posted above... no luck so far :(

The two towns in the geological map: Kemerovo and Novokuznetsk are seen below in relation to Gornaya Shoria:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoriamap.jpg

Gornaya Shoria coordinates: 52°50'18.0"N 87°56'14.0"E

Google Earth shows this:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/shoria/shoriaearth.jpg

[Hervé]

Thanks a zillion buares!

The coordinates point to a tree-covered high ridge/mountain that's outside of the geological map to the south.

Google earth shows a lot of open pit mining in that area.

My guess is that the whole story is from a "bushed" prospector's tall-tale :)

[aranuk]

Thanks Buares!

These sure are big pieces of rock!

However, I am far from convinced they qualify as "megalithic" stones because:

What's the structure?

Megalith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A megalith is a large stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_%28geology%29) that has been used to construct a structure or monument, either alone or together with other stones. The word "megalithic" describes structures made of such large stones, utilizing an interlocking system without the use of mortar or cement, as well as representing periods of prehistory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory) characterised by such constructions. For later periods the term monolith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith), with an overlapping meaning, is more likely to be used.

The word "megalith" comes from the Ancient Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) "μέγας" (megas) meaning "great" and "λίθος" (lithos) meaning "stone." Megalith also denotes an item consisting of rock(s) hewn in definite shapes for special purposes.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-3) It has been used to describe buildings built by people from many parts of the world living in many different periods. A variety of large stones are seen as megaliths, with the most widely known megaliths not being sepulchral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepulchral).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-4) The construction of these structures took place mainly in the Neolithic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic) (though earlier Mesolithic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesolithic) examples are known) and continued into the Chalcolithic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalith#cite_note-5)


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As far as I can see, the only "structures" I can figure out are those which naturally occur with granitic outcrops. I don't see anything like a Machu Pichu wall or a Great wall of China nor a henge, dolmen or menhir... i.e. something sticking out of the landscape.

These rocks ARE the landscape!

You took the words out my mouth Amzer! They look to me like they are natural. Some of the pictures are from other countries Machu Pichu and Baalbek in Lebanon. Those are definitely not natural. Any good geologist will tell you there are some strange looking rocks around the world. I am still not convinced they are man made or made by extra terrestrial beings. As Amzer pointed out, to qualify as megaliths there has to be certain recognition of basic details which could not be accidents of nature. I am a retired builder, but not an archeologist or a geologist for that matter, so I would have to see more pictures. From what I've seen there is no bonding of courses and even smooth surfaces seem to be absent. In nature, some stones split down a grain with almost perfect symmetry. I will not rule out the possibility they are genuine man made artifacts but I need convincing.
They sure are interesting. There was one photo which looked interesting. It was the one where a man was standing in a corridor or passageway. I don't know if that was taken at the same area.

Stan

[Billy]

I think they are natural formations, Nature has a wonderful way of expressing herself. Ancient volcanic activity then cooling can cause cracking and amazing geometric formations. formations from Ireland.






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I think they are natural formations, Nature has a wonderful way of expressing herself. Ancient volcanic activity then cooling can cause cracking and amazing geometric formations. formations from Ireland.

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I believe these are examples of columnar basalts. That jointing is caused during the cooling of the rock. Basalts are volcanic rocks which occur at or near the surface.

The granites on the other hand form at depth and the jointing is not caused during cooling. Rather from the de-pressurization of overburden rock being removed which causes expansion and jointing of the exposed granite.

Regardless, both are examples of natural jointing. It may seem like splitting hairs however the lithology of a rock is very important as it is determines the characteristics and physical properties that rock will have (i. e. natural jointing or not). The type of rock one will encounter is directly related to its (tectonic) setting.

[CrimSynn]

I think there are a great many things out there and even still are many more to be found. Could that be part of something once? Perhaps but at this point so little is left all you can see is a rather strange and possibly natural rock formation. Does that mean its not a piece of a built structure? No... if we look at a place of distruction even today we see rubble if we walk away from it and come back in 5000 years we will see scant bits of that rubble.. it will merge with the area around it and we would wonder.. was there a building here before? The pieces might say no even if we knew the truth was yes.