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linksplatinum
3rd March 2014, 18:46
Sunday, March 2nd, 2014 | Posted by Preston James, Ph.D

Secret Space war XIII: Alien Partners tell Putin, “Don’t Worry, We’ve Got Your Back”
by Preston James


Russian President Vladimir Putin seems to be walking with a prideful swagger in his step lately.

In spite of growing conflicts between Israel-driven-America and Russia over Syria, Iran and now the Ukraine, he appears unusually confident .

Other world leaders involved appear to be increasingly stressed out by these growing conflicts, but not President Putin.

What could be going on in the background which might explain this blatant confidence and swagger of president Putin?

Unsubstantiated rumors have been seeping out of deep contacts inside Russian Space Command the last few weeks that not only does the new Putin’s Russia have a well developed Secret Space war Program.

Reports also claim that this Secret Space war Program provides substantial ultra-high-tech back-engineered offensive and defensive weaponry that can and will deployed if Israel is able to once again deploy their hijacked American War Machine in another Proxy War, this time in the Ukraine against Putin’s new Russia.


Do Russians now have access to Space War Weapons based on back-engineered alien ET technology gained through a new treaty negotiated between Putin and a certain group of Alien ETs who are enemies of the group controlling the World Zionists (WZs) and the International Zionist Crime Syndicate (IZCS)?

And even stranger, has this same Alien ET group who claim to be the avowed enemies of the group pushing the WZs and the IZCS, also contacted a certain newly emerging and quite powerful secret group inside the Secret Shadow Government (SSG) and American Intel?

And with these reputed contacts, has this group of American Defense and Intel up-and-comers started to exert dominance over the the US War Machine. have they been convinced that the WZs and the IZCS must be stopped because their intent is to deploy DHS to tyrannize, enslave and serially mass-murder about 80% of all Americans?

And have they become aware that the 9/11 attacks were False-Flag, Gladio-style, inside-job attacks run by Israel, Israeli-American dual citizens, NeoCons, and PNAC individuals and had nothing to do with Arabs, but was merely False-Flag terror to justify an illegal, unprovoked, unconstitutional, undeclared war of aggression in the Middle East as a proxy War for Israel?


Has this powerful group of up-and-comers inside America become convinced that DHS and its overlords and the true Hijackers of America (AIPAC, B’nai B’rith, the ADL, SPLC and the like) must be stopped cold now before they destroy America and all its Christian and Deist Institutions and the very American Republic itself, which is the secret Goal of the WZs and the IZCS?

This new treaty President Putin has negotiated with this particular Alien ET groups is purported to be like the ones American leaders negotiated with certain Alien ET groups back in the 1950′s and early 1960′s. However this group is purported to be substantially anti-WZ and anti-IZCS. Their view is reputed to be that the core of all the mass death and destruction at least the last 500 years has its origins all the way to the Roman Empire and ancient Babylonia.

And that this Death Cult philosophy is based on an anti-human death-based religion created and deployed by the Dracos (luciferian reptilians) who reached an apex of power under the City of London private Central Banksters (whom they mind-kontrolled and en-cultured).


This new group of Alien ETs also has claimed that the “Dracos” aka Reptoids from the “Dark Side” first hijacked the City of London when first incorporated. These evil and ancient Dracos then, using the same technologies which they did in ancient Babylon before being driven out for many centuries, built up and then deployed their main Action-agents and Cutouts, Israel and America.

It was under Evil, anti-human Draco Power, the City of London and its main Cutout and action-agent Israel hijacked America in 1913. At that time America essentially became a new province of the City of London private Central Banksters using Draco-based babylonia “Money-Magick”Banksters. The Dracos are believed to be the arch enemies of humankind and have set up mind-kontrolled/soulless “death Cults” like Skull and Bones (Russel Trust), satanic cults and various types of luciferiansm which completely hijacked the highest levels of freemasonry.

The purpose of these occult linked organizations which are supported by Draco powers, is believed to be part of an overall plan to set up the eradication/extinction of all humans on Earth. This is to be done using the false ideologies, “Survival of the Fittest” and the necessary “thinning of the herd” as delusions, cause or philosophy to trick human leaders into leading their subject and eventually all humans to their own destruction, like lemmings jumping off a cliff.


Many years later after the end of WW2,the City of London Banksters set up the new phony racial state of Israel to do their dirty work and set things up using the so-called “holocaust” aka “self-deployed fiery sacrifice”.

This deployment of a self-deployed, exaggerated persecution created the necessary background allowing the false charge of Anti-Semitism to be levelled against anyone or anygroup attempting to investigate what really happened during the persecution of “low Judaics” by “fake/high Judaics/zionists.

This use of Israel as a artificially constructed so-called “racial state” based on racial delusions and falsities has worked so well playing on the sympathies of Americans and other Western Nations, that Israel has been able to completely hijack America, asset strip it almost bare, and use it as a captive force to wage its proxy wars against entities who were not enemies of America at all, but were artificially created to appear so by deception.

It these rumors are true, it can be expected that a Space War parity or quid pro quo has been established between the America and Russia, or that perhaps Russia may have recently attained a small but important advantage. If true, this would explain the now apparent reluctance of President Obama and his administration to proceed with more proxy wars for Israel in the Mideast and now specifically in the Ukraine which is loaded with extremely valuable resources and is considered essential to the national security of Putin’s new non-Bolshevik Russia.

Now here is the grim truth. No matter how good American Intel has been about the Russian’s Secret Space War Program and the level of advanced back-engineered Alien ET technology which now has been deployed, it is limited. And it is unlikely that the full story has been gained by American Intel, due to the various levels of secrecy and “need to know” installed around the Russian’s secret Space War Program.

Of course this kind of layered secrecy has been installed around America’s Secret Space War Program. America’s secret Space War programs is unfortunately now run by foreign offshore controlled private defense Contractors, most are of which are deeply infiltrated by Israeli intel, some of which are actually deep cover spies who report directly to Russian Intel unbeknownst by the Israelis who are cocky and getting quite careless lately.

The question remains, has General Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, attained enough new power to exert complete control over if push comes to shove to cut Israeli infiltrators and deep moles off at the knees and prevent them from starting WW3? And must General Dempsey take strong control and stop this Israeli Espionage through their intel fronts like AIPAC, B’nai B’rith, the ADL, SPLC and the like to prevent some kind of major international confrontation with President Putin’s new Russia over the Ukraine or Syria.


It is now generally recognized that Israel’s is working very hard deploying every espionage and propaganda tool possible to propel American military might into another proxy war for Israel and the City of London. The reason? To allow Israel to obtain its planned new oil and gas pipeline in Syria (after Balkanizing it through deployed terrorism). It is also now recognized that this Israel Pipeline Plan for Syria has the full blessing and support of the City of London Big Oil.

Some of those who are in a position to know about such internal security matters deep inside the USG are claiming the answer is YES, that General Dempsey is completely informed about infil-Traitors, and has established the resources necessary deeply inside this program to exert immediate and complete control any time upon his instructions should this become necessary and desires to do so. Allegedly these Israeli moles have been allowed to remain in place to use them to feed misinformation that is designed to mislead any real or potential enemies.


So at present nobody on the inside has provided complete verified information on what actual advanced high-tech back-engineered Alien ET weapon systems the Americans or Russians actually have developed and deployed in their respective Secret Space War Programs.

The best we can do is construct estimates based on the actual weapon systems we do know exist. We know that America’s Secret Shadow Government (SSG) has at least two separate very advanced anti-gravity craft fleets, one deployed by the USAF and the other deployed by the USN. Insiders have claimed that there is a secret competition for black-budget dollars between the two that has at gone turned into space shootouts and other acts of spy-war.


The USAF and the USN have always been at odds after WW2 ended and the Cold War started. This deep conflict is all about money and power and the Navy’s grey Beards interpretation of the Constitution that only they are authorized to employ international spying on behalf of America. It is important to note that traditionally for many centuries naval forces were the primary sources of a King or nation’s international power. And these naval forces were used to protect trade routes and establish the authority for new Colonies in foreign lands.

It is now known that the naval intel and accounting sectors were specifically targeted by the USAF during the 9/11 attacks. During these attacks charges were planted inside those sections in the pentagon and a very sophisticated covert operation using space war technology like holographic images and sounds.

There have been isolated reports of past space shootouts between USAF and USN anti-gravity Craft (AGCs). And there have been some reports of serious turf wars inside Congress over funding. It is well known that the USAF sees the USN conventional forces including most Carriers and Destroyers as obsolete and easy targets for any enemy.

The actual specific state of back-engineered Alien ET technology for Russian weapons systems is not known by American Intel at this time. But estimates are constructed using advanced algorithms on advanced computers to make estimates. And the new latest version of the Russian Sunburn Missile System is a good example of an advanced Russian weapons system that can be used to project what could be considered a fairly good estimate of the current state of Russian Secret Space war weaponry that has been deployed.

Some military technology experts believe that the Sunburn is based on Alien ET back-engineered technology. Why would they think this? Because the latest versions of the Sunburn are believed to have hiving capability and the ability to travel at speed up to 7,000 to 9,000 miles per hour. That is a lot more than the officially released figures of Mach 2.1.

Hiving is the ability of these missiles when launched in mass to remain in constant communication with one another on special scrambled frequencies which constantly change.

If one or more Sunburn missile is shot down or interfered with, the rest adjust in response to the threat, re-target, resort to random defensive maneuvers to make sure every target is still covered, and attacked by priority of importance. Some of these maneuvers are so gravity defying that it is suspected that anti-gravity technology has been utilized in the latest model of these Sunburn missiles. It is also suspected that new anti-matter light and time warping technologies are used to provide advanced “cloaking” for these Sunburns.


If these rumors are even close to accurate it means that any USN ships within range of these Sunburns (which may be substantially greater than the claimed 1200 miles), could be sunk within mere minutes. Some experts believe that the USAF (or the USN) has nothing that can adequately respond to these Sunburn, and even the Rail guns and high powered particle beams that have been secretly deployed on some carriers and destroyers and kept under wraps until needed, or on special Space war orbital platform, cannot respond fast or accurate enough to stop all of a hive of Sunburns that are launched.

As the Cold War came to a halt, it was rumored that the Soviet Union’s secret Space war stopped, temporarily put on ice. This occurred when the Wall was torn down, thanks to the extremely effective efforts of the Great America Hero Lee Wanta who served as President Reagan’s Secret Agent. And it is now believed that under Putin’s new Russia, not only has a new treaty been re-negotiated with a certain group of Alien ETs that were introduced to the Soviets by Nazi Scientists brought into Russia after WW2 to work on advanced weapons systems (just like what happened under Operation Paperclip in America).


Another way to estimate the Space War capabilities is to examine open sourced intel of any alien technology applications that have been leaked in the press. There is one very interesting story that appeared claiming that Russia was in the process of developing a large anti-gravity craft (AGC) to use as a space platform deployed space weapon system as well as for use as an advanced passenger airliner. It has been claimed by some that the first prototype has been built and tested.

Here is what may perhaps be an “Above Top Secret” video obtained clandestinely by a Western Intel Agency and leaked to the press, perhaps with a wink and a nod of Putin or his deputies. You must decide if it appears to be real or and/or could actually be real. Why would Russian allow this kind of a leak? Such leaks can serve as a warning to western powers to obtain more respect for Putin’s New Russia.

If it is a faked video and purposely leaked misinformation, it can serve as a Psyops to confuse and misdirect from real, already deployed Russian “deep black” or “above Top Secret” Secret Space War Systems that Putin perhaps wants to keep secret. Decide for yourself if this video might be real, and if so its implications could be for Putin’s New Russia.

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Conclusion: President Putin has appeared remarkably cool and confident in public lately. A slow controlled speech backed by steely blue eyes and what appears to be a iron constitution as well as a over-confident swagger to his stride. Not prone to careless statements or bluffs, Putin appears to be a very strong, confident leader that means what he says and is willing to back it up.

Driving out the Judaic zionist mobsters has appeared to have been a high priority and this is an extremely difficult job since these crime networks of what is called the “Red Mafiya” are so entrenched. Various Russian experts in the west believe that Putin is committed to this and has made significant progress, but it is a slow arduous process. Those that know President Putin claim that he is very calculating when he negotiates or pushes foreign policies for Russia. That he is not prone to idle bluff or exaggerations, but usually means exactly what he says.

This task of driving out Israeli-American dual citizen traitors who are zionists is an extremely difficult challenge for newly emerging groups within the USG, the American Military and Intel. It is these folks who are dedicated to fully exposing these Traitors to America the Republic and are working hard to stop AIPAC, B’nai B’rith, the ADL, the SPLC and the like. So based on the deep penetration zionist criminals and zionist espionage fronts have also attained in America, one can easily imagine how difficult a challenge it is for Putin to do the same in Russian.

So far its seems clear that President Putin will give no new quarter to the Red Mafiya zios, nor will he allow zionists from Israel, the City of London or those who have infiltrated America to determine his borders or his security situation with the Ukraine.

And besides according to Lee Wanta President Reagan’s Secret Agent, a binding Agreement was negotiated between the Soviet Union’s leaders who were leaving power and Russia’s new up and coming leaders, that America would not ever interfere in Russia’s close security situation along its borders, and Russia would refrain from the same for America’s borders. (1) Sadly, recent news reports claim the the USG has given $5 Billion USD to rebel groups inside the Ukraine to start a Color Revolution. If true, this is a serious violation of the Agreement that is still binding. (2)

In spite of the evidence that Israel has deployed some of its Terrorist Patsy groups to the Ukraine to start a Color Revolution and America has also apparently deployed its Al Cia Duh Terror groups to the Ukraine to assist, President Putin has responded calmly and but decisively. He appears to have started deploying some of his best Anti-Terror troops to Crimea to secure the Ukraine. It should be a fair assumption that if Israel and America do not back down and stop deploying terrorists to the Ukraine, President Putin will likely fight fire with fire and deploy whatever Russian Military force is necessary to stop this outside agitation and generation of violence, terror and chaos inside the Ukraine which comes from such.

Will President Putin back down and let Israel and American offshore corporate interest Balkanize the Ukraine and divide up it vast natural resources. A fair number of experts do not believe that President Putin will allow this to happen. And could it be that his strong confidence is a result of a new updated treaty with a group of aliens that is working hard to expose the Franken, Sabbattean World Zionists (WZs) and the IZCS, and stop their evil reign of power?

If this particular group of Aliens has entered into an agreement to establish Space war parity for Putin’s new Russia, perhaps this has bolstered his confident and resolve over the zionist driven terror in the Ukraine? Perhaps this group of anti-zionist Aliens has told President Putin not to worry about the zios at all, that they will cover his back?

karelia
3rd March 2014, 19:00
Could you please provide a link to the source? Thanks.

Hervé
3rd March 2014, 19:10
Psssttt... : http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/02/secret-space-war-xiii-alien-partners-tell-putin-dont-worry-weve-got-your-back/

linksplatinum
3rd March 2014, 19:28
Psssttt... : http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/02/secret-space-war-xiii-alien-partners-tell-putin-dont-worry-weve-got-your-back/
That's where I found that, thanks for the link post. I'll be sure to remember to do that, just got in a bit of a hurry...

linksplatinum
3rd March 2014, 19:36
Could you please provide a link to the source? Thanks.
My bad... I'll remember that the next time...lol

Cardillac
3rd March 2014, 21:37
if anyone has an ace up their sleeve against the Cabal it's (no, not Benjamin Fulford and the 'supposed' White Dragon Society): the itccs.org- check out their website and the newest postings- I can only hope and pray the itccs will prevail; if they can't we're all doomed-

Larry

Atlas
3rd March 2014, 22:00
If it is a faked video and purposely leaked misinformation, it can serve as a Psyops to confuse and misdirect from real, already deployed Russian “deep black” or “above Top Secret” Secret Space War Systems that Putin perhaps wants to keep secret. Decide for yourself if this video might be real, and if so its implications could be for Putin’s New Russia.

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sjOpIrwrZDM/UTZAQqtsOrI/AAAAAAAAMSI/ZCZJIn65NhA/s692/Locomoskey+sky+thermoplan.jpg

The “aerostatic thermoballasted vehicle” from Locomo Sky looks like something straight out of a 1950s UFO movie. The flying saucer shape isn’t just for show though, it helps the aerostat travel through the air with a minimum loss of energy to air resistance. According to their press release, Locomo Sky has started building a construction facility in the Ulyanovsk region of Russia to create a fleet of the aircraft. These airships, more commonly called Locomoskayners, are already used in geographical surveys.

More: 2010/03/10/russia-is-making-flying-saucers (http://singularityhub.com/2010/03/10/russia-is-making-flying-saucers-dun-dun-dun/)

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SPIRIT WOLF
3rd March 2014, 22:08
Or a flea up his arse (thread title)

skuzzy
3rd March 2014, 22:14
I remember seeing this post on Veteran's not even 20 hours ago. The "history" part reads almost like a novel someone wrote as sci-fi, but I would believe it if it was said to be the truth, it makes sense.

:confused:

Agape
3rd March 2014, 22:50
I can see it all more clearly now.. ( in jest this time ) ... Quo Vadis Homine .. Humanity 0.3 generation will get dressed up in space suits, play Aliens and MIBs .. exercise their mock anti-gravity technology and super weaponry ( though till then , they'll have lobotomies and aggressive genes cut out , soon after birth ) so it all will be mock.

There'll be plentiful of new smart drugs and the smartest people will sit behind their machines 24/7 , with brains on n on n on.

Science fiction will take over both science and religions. Humans are excessively imaginative specie and this can't be stopped, no way, it is a way forwards ...

There will remain some islands of reality for sure . People who will live out of the Zone and out of the game as they always did .


And then ... there'll be a BANG ... BIG BANG but till then , everyone in the Game will be so smart and enlightened it's all they'll wish for . They'll bombast the civilisation/themselves to the air in really huge explosion and achieve the final state of enlightenment .

Me thinks that even Ron Hubbard would agree with this prediction .

I won't say more .. it's on the 39th level beyond Top Secret . Anyone for briefing please bring your suitcases .



;)

indigopete
3rd March 2014, 23:30
The garbage level of this article is way too high.

First of all, there are no "aliens with spaceships". Secondly, if there is secret tesla-nazi technology floating around in the black ops labs then you can be sure that Vladimir Putin would not have exclusive access to them.

I suspect the swagger is due to the simple fact that he and his allies have got more money than the 'western developed' world at the moment and can basically do what they want with impunity at the threat of letting a few trillion of those US treasuries go, having hoovered all the gold up to offset their losses.

He is also probably sitting on more than a few secret truths about the real background to the last few years of US military walkabouts and geopolitical engineering hockery pockery.

linksplatinum
4th March 2014, 00:05
The garbage level of this article is way too high.

First of all, there are no "aliens with spaceships". Secondly, if there is secret tesla-nazi technology floating around in the black ops labs then you can be sure that Vladimir Putin would not have exclusive access to them.

I suspect the swagger is due to the simple fact that he and his allies have got more money than the 'western developed' world at the moment and can basically do what they want with impunity at the threat of letting a few trillion of those US treasuries go, having hoovered all the gold up to offset their losses.

He is also probably sitting on more than a few secret truths about the real background to the last few years of US military walkabouts and geopolitical engineering hockery pockery.

I honestly don't even see why you even waist your time here in this forum in the first place, if nothing resonates with you anyways then why bother with the sarcasm, it truly is useless to do so here...

thunder24
4th March 2014, 00:11
...so are we to suppose that Putin is going against his money backers, along with china:


China has backed Russia in a tense standoff with the US and Europe that has erupted following the pro-West revolution in Ukraine.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-china-back-russia-cold-war-over-crimea-1438650

and if so this would b a good thing, no?

...or is this what the puppet masters have in mind... cause the pleibeans to "think" there is an actual conflict among those in "charge" and then like some were speculating, have a nuke go off in 'Merica'...

uh oh... looks like they are hinting at it:

U.S. intelligence agencies recently confirmed China’s development of a new intermediate-range nuclear missile (IRBM) called the Dongfeng-26C (DF-26C), U.S. officials said.

The new missile is estimated to have a range of at least 2,200 miles—enough for Chinese military forces to conduct attacks on U.S. military facilities in Guam, a major hub for the Pentagon’s shift of U.S. forces to Asia Pacific......
http://freebeacon.com/china-fields-new-intermediate-range-nuclear-missile/

It may not b mainland 'merica' but you know how spin can plant seeds in the fertile fields of the mind...

Agape
4th March 2014, 00:56
The garbage level of this article is way too high.

First of all, there are no "aliens with spaceships". Secondly, if there is secret tesla-nazi technology floating around in the black ops labs then you can be sure that Vladimir Putin would not have exclusive access to them.

I suspect the swagger is due to the simple fact that he and his allies have got more money than the 'western developed' world at the moment and can basically do what they want with impunity at the threat of letting a few trillion of those US treasuries go, having hoovered all the gold up to offset their losses.

He is also probably sitting on more than a few secret truths about the real background to the last few years of US military walkabouts and geopolitical engineering hockery pockery.

I honestly don't even see why you even waist your time here in this forum in the first place, if nothing resonates with you anyways then why bother with the sarcasm, it truly is useless to do so here...


I should not dare to say damn word more ..but I see it's all very human . The gold stuck in their pockets so the few can live better than millions kept in artificial poverty ,
it's all this very human greed .

No advanced civilisation coming from space would ever sign 'agreement ' with such motives and people . To support their greed, their cultish leaders, neo-prophets of whatever regimes and religions,
their endless wars .

The same people , I mean their progeny kept in dark age write sagas about Space Wars because they can't imagine any better,
do you really think that's for real .

ETs getting involved in human politics . Using you as slaves and puppets, perhaps .. in order to try out their newest weapon systems ? Have you seen any of it ,
or does most of your information ( general reader ) come from reading these articles serving as beautiful distraction from the Truth.

No, nothing can be immediately proven . Not even their senility, their intentions, not even their accounts stuck in some Swiss bank or another .

Suits playing their suitable games .. with fates of millions made dependant on their decisions,
it's increasingly, unbearably mad . For better explanation ..having a good global story always helps but don't forget you're not alone and there are several alternatives to that story , and any new intel guy can write better one .. depending on tomorrows news .

It's human names in it and human motives . Nothing more alien than this world alone .


Ask your self what you believe .. because it's your belief that dictates your sense of reality . It does help sometimes, to take things to the 'absurd edge' to test whether your theory works .


There are many 'true believers' flooding the alternative scene who end up trusting nonsense because their true senses , always deceived them . Theories are good at start but keep failing like card houses, one by one , so do 'versions of reality' .

ghostrider
4th March 2014, 01:42
Let us remember , Obama speaking privately to Putin , just before his re-election , give me some time , I'll have more wiggle room ... all this dog wagging is staged , a planned war , in the making for a long time ... Russia will invade alaska and make war with Canada ... America will have two civil wars , one of every third human will be killed , and in Europe one in every fourth person killed ... the clone robotic killing machines will evolve and the military will lose control of them , etc ... The Henok Prophecies ... America , Russia , and China are the big players ...

Flash
4th March 2014, 05:20
Let us remember , Obama speaking privately to Putin , just before his re-election , give me some time , I'll have more wiggle room ... all this dog wagging is staged , a planned war , in the making for a long time ... Russia will invade alaska and make war with Canada ... America will have two civil wars , one of every third human will be killed , and in Europe one in every fourth person killed ... the clone robotic killing machines will evolve and the military will lose control of them , etc ... The Henok Prophecies ... America , Russia , and China are the big players ...

if Russia makes war with Canada while USA is in inner turmoil, we are doomed in Canada. We have about no army.

linksplatinum
4th March 2014, 06:24
I truly get that there is going to be criticism towards this post, and yes there are some that can't quite wrap their heads around the whole idea that "we" Earth Humans are not alone in this Universe. By the way there are seven Universes which would make these multi realms of existence Multiverses, which were depicted by astronomers in TIME magazine just a couple issues back. But think of the facts... there are 100 billion stars in our current scope of our Milky Way Galaxy that can be seen by our best technologies, and within those stars by using higher powered infrared telescopes, there are the equivalent of 100 billion more stars within those as well which is an astronomical amount of other infinite possibilities of otherwordly life that is out there...Now, to think that we are the only ones on the block, so to speak... is EXTREMELY ARROGANT....

Atlas
4th March 2014, 06:30
The garbage level of this article is way too high.

First of all, there are no "aliens with spaceships". Secondly, if there is secret tesla-nazi technology floating around in the black ops labs then you can be sure that Vladimir Putin would not have exclusive access to them.

I suspect the swagger is due to the simple fact that he and his allies have got more money than the 'western developed' world at the moment and can basically do what they want with impunity at the threat of letting a few trillion of those US treasuries go, having hoovered all the gold up to offset their losses.

He is also probably sitting on more than a few secret truths about the real background to the last few years of US military walkabouts and geopolitical engineering hockery pockery.

Well said. :first:

indigopete
4th March 2014, 10:04
I honestly don't even see why you even waist your time here in this forum in the first place

Because I'm interested in the truth and what really lies behind the financial, geopolitical and spiritual machinations that are occurring at an ever quickening pace in this world.

In that regard, stories of politicians colluding with space aliens in tin can spaceships is a kind of patronising chaff that derails and obfuscates the real agendas almost as badly as the worst of the mainstream media.

To begin with, if you're really going to entertain the idea that physical beings arrive here in spaceships, you need to think that concept through in every aspect - including the idea of how we get here ourselves and how arriving "in a body" is different from arriving in a spaceship and the relative plausibility of each. You also need to look at the alternative explanations for UFO sightings, such as parallel terrestrial technology agendas and so on.

When you do that, you'll see that most people's basis for promoting the "alien agenda" has more to do with watching too much Star Trek than their ability to prioritise their own understanding of the world around them. The "real" basis for the UFO phenomena are never discussed. It's always a Holywood-friendly explanation - even on these forums.

Flash
4th March 2014, 12:25
I honestly don't even see why you even waist your time here in this forum in the first place

Because I'm interested in the truth and what really lies behind the financial, geopolitical and spiritual machinations that are occurring at an ever quickening pace in this world.

In that regard, stories of politicians colluding with space aliens in tin can spaceships is a kind of patronising chaff that derails and obfuscates the real agendas almost as badly as the worst of the mainstream media.

To begin with, if you're really going to entertain the idea that physical beings arrive here in spaceships, you need to think that concept through in every aspect - including the idea of how we get here ourselves and how arriving "in a body" is different from arriving in a spaceship and the relative plausibility of each. You also need to look at the alternative explanations for UFO sightings, such as parallel terrestrial technology agendas and so on.

When you do that, you'll see that most people's basis for promoting the "alien agenda" has more to do with watching too much Star Trek than their ability to prioritise their own understanding of the world around them. The "real" basis for the UFO phenomena are never discussed. It's always a Holywood-friendly explanation - even on these forums.

Your thinking seems soooooo mainstream to me that me too I Wonder what you are doing on this forum.

Star Trek is one thing, thinking there is aliens in the vast universe and that some may be interested in us, for whatever reason, for farming us or as brothers or as children, name it, is not that far fetched. I am interested in the health of my chickens in my farm if I have one. And I want to cross breed them. And I am defintely interested in anything happening to my daughter.

risveglio
4th March 2014, 12:57
Psssttt... : http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/02/secret-space-war-xiii-alien-partners-tell-putin-dont-worry-weve-got-your-back/

I think I could be a veterans today journalist. Maybe an article about Senkaku containing some ancient technology within the mountains or something like that. Just need to figure out how to blame Israel.

Flash
4th March 2014, 14:53
Sometimes I think Avalon has it all :cool:

Old posts regarding Russia and ETs support

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56125-Did-Russia-Just-Admit-to-Contact-With-Alien-Civilization-It-Appears-So-&p=639143&viewfull=1#post639143

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54494-Simon-Parkes----Interviews&p=631270&viewfull=1#post631270

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54735-Russia-Orders-Obama-Tell-World-About-Aliens-Or-We-Will&p=624213#post624213

This last post being short but maybe the most interesting and look at the dates: January 6th

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54494-Simon-Parkes----Interviews&p=631255&viewfull=1#post631255

indigopete
4th March 2014, 15:52
Your thinking seems soooooo mainstream to me that me too I Wonder what you are doing on this forum.

Star Trek is one thing, thinking there is aliens in the vast universe and that some may be interested in us, for whatever reason, for farming us or as brothers or as children, name it, is not that far fetched. I am interested in the health of my chickens in my farm if I have one. And I want to cross breed them. And I am defintely interested in anything happening to my daughter.

LoL. Who said scepticism about the alien "presence" was mainstream ?

We've been bombarded with this propaganda for about 50 years - on TV in films, in kids toys, on blogs and Youtube - it's everywhere. Ok - they don't sit and spell it out on "the news", but that only matters to highly conditioned individuals obsessed with looking at the world through the binary prism of "fact and fiction". The propagandists know that that dichotomy is artificial anyway and one that they can lever to their advantage, the same way as they level all other ones that are implanted in us from an early age such as good and evil, truth and falsehood, authority and liberty, friend and enemy.

They all have one thing in common in that they mask the true complexity of the nature of our existence and inhibit us from reflecting independently upon it.

It's not that I'm not open minded about the nature of UFOs - over the years I've held almost every point of view there is about the phenomenon.

It's that I've taken the time to actually contemplate what 'travel' means in an interstellar context. Basically, it means death and rebirth. That is how life (at least in the 'spiritual' dimension) transports itself between physical locations in the universe.

The other thing to note is that - almost by definition - a physical existence is static. i.e. if you are in a body, you're not going anywhere further than your front garden whether you're inside a spaceship or not. That isn't just a technological limitation, it's a natural one.

The physical being is a 'parking place' for higher dimensional existences. When you want to go somewhere else (or whatever you are part of wants to propagate itself), you arrive in a different physical realm - and that means comprehensively, not just the same body and spaceship but a different geographical location. That would be like typing an email on your PC and then carrying the whole PC to the addressee to deliver the email.

The reason I (and you) can know these things is that it's how I got here - and so did everyone else. We didn't arrive in spaceships, we arrived in bodies. Of the billions of people that have walked this earth, I don't know of one single one that arrived any other way. I accept that there are Mayan carvings of Spaceship-like objects and that there are "witnesses" to secret programs, but that is a very different phenomenon from interstellar travel. As I've just highlighted, "craft" are not for travelling galactic distances, other than on the TV.

So whatever the UFO phenomenon is, it isn't aliens that have come halfway across the universe to visit us. The aliens are already here - it's me and you.

Here's a much more plausible explanation for the whole thing ...

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/01/RIR-140131.php

indigopete
4th March 2014, 16:10
I suspect the swagger is due to the simple fact that he and his allies have got more money than the 'western developed' world at the moment and can basically do what they want with impunity at the threat of letting a few trillion of those US treasuries go, having hoovered all the gold up to offset their losses.

Only a day later - here you go...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-04/putin-advisor-threatens-dumping-us-treasurys-abandoning-dollar-if-us-proceeds-sancti

Tyy1907
9th March 2014, 00:32
I don't know why some people still refute the existence of ET/ED's. if someone looks at ALL the facts objectively, including witness testimonies, it is incredibly obvious there is something to this. Active disinformation campaigns coupled with a ridiculous amount of surveillance have kept this all under wraps. People have been killed for spilling beans. It's no joke!

Humble Janitor
12th March 2014, 14:50
This article sounds like something that a journalism student would write. It's disjointed and lacks context.

But the saddest part of all is people defending this clever piece of misinfo (not disinfo because it's not even true!).