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Bob
4th March 2014, 02:56
Reading the abstract below just makes my brain hurt.. but I think this is important



"Thirty-thousand-year-old distant relative of giant icosahedral DNA viruses with a pandoravirus morphology" is how the article starts.

ref: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/02/26/1320670111

A Pandora-Virus? (oye that sounds insidious..)

Here is the Abstract below from the technical paper; afterwards we will endeavor to explain in laymen's words what it all is that they are saying..

Please try reading through it, it can be done.. :) I will put up some definitions at the bottom of the OP.

"Giant DNA viruses are visible under a light microscope and their genomes encode more proteins than some bacteria or intracellular parasitic eukaryotes.

"There are two very distinct types and infect unicellular protists such as Acanthamoeba.

"On one hand, Megaviridae possess large pseudoicosahedral capsids enclosing a megabase-sized adenine–thymine-rich genome, and on the other, the recently discovered Pandoraviruses exhibit micron-sized amphora-shaped particles and guanine–cytosine-rich genomes of up to 2.8 Megabytes (in size).

(all that describes how they are assembled, very complex for a virus with a LOT of machinery to duplicate themselves in their host organism)

"While initiating a survey of the Siberian permafrost, we isolated a third type of giant virus combining the Pandoravirus morphology with a gene content more similar to that of icosahedral DNA viruses.
(in other words, these viruses exhibit a type of "sacred geometry", in this case an icosahedra structure capable of infecting DNA)

"This suggests that pandoravirus-like particles may correspond to an unexplored diversity of unconventional DNA virus families.
(advanced viruses inhabited the world 30,000 years ago !! that is significant)

Abstract

"The largest known DNA viruses infect Acanthamoeba and belong to two markedly different families.

"The Megaviridae (this new (old) pandora-virus), exhibit pseudo-icosahedral virions up to 0.7 μm in diameter and adenine–thymine (AT)-rich genomes of up to 1.25 Mb encoding a thousand proteins.

"Like their Mimivirus prototype discovered 10 y ago, they entirely replicate within cytoplasmic virion factories.
(in other words they do their replication in the cell away from the DNA)

"In contrast, the recently discovered Pandoraviruses exhibit larger amphora-shaped virions 1 μm in length and guanine–cytosine-rich genomes up to 2.8 Mb long encoding up to 2,500 proteins.
(that is gargantuan - why would a virus need such a complex reproduction mechanism??)

"Their replication involves the host nucleus. Whereas the Megaviridae share some general features with the previously described icosahedral large DNA viruses, the Pandoraviruses appear unrelated to them.

"Here we report the discovery of a third type of giant virus combining an even larger pandoravirus-like particle 1.5 μm in length with a surprisingly smaller 600 kb AT-rich genome, a gene content more similar to Iridoviruses and Marseillevirus, and a fully cytoplasmic replication reminiscent of the Megaviridae.
(what was happening between 100,000 thru 30,000 years ago that virus development was becoming so advanced, so developed?_

"This suggests that pandoravirus-like particles may be associated with a variety of virus families more diverse than previously envisioned.

"This giant virus, named Pithovirus sibericum, was isolated from a >30,000-y-old radiocarbon-dated sample when we initiated a survey of the virome of Siberian permafrost.
(what in the world was happening in Siberia 100,000 thru 30,000 years ago which would lead to such viral development? Could those viri be exposed to the environment sometime between 30,000 years ago and present time?)

"The revival of such an ancestral amoeba-infecting virus used as a safe indicator of the possible presence of pathogenic DNA viruses, suggests that theGiant DNA viruses are visible under a light microscope and their genomes encode more proteins than some bacteria or intracellular parasitic eukaryotes.

"There are two very distinct types and infect unicellular protists such as Acanthamoeba. On one hand, Megaviridae possess large pseudoicosahedral capsids enclosing a megabase-sized adenine–thymine-rich genome, and on the other, the recently discovered Pandoraviruses exhibit micron-sized amphora-shaped particles and guanine–cytosine-rich genomes of up to 2.8 Mb.

"While initiating a survey of the Siberian permafrost, we isolated a third type of giant virus combining the Pandoravirus morphology with a gene content more similar to that of icosahedral DNA viruses. This suggests that pandoravirus-like particles may correspond to an unexplored diversity of unconventional DNA virus families.



The last section about revival should give one shivers..

"...the thawing of permafrost either from global warming or industrial exploitation of circumpolar regions might not be exempt from future threats to human or animal health."

omg..

Carrying this a bit further...

Drilling deep for oil into layers that have been buried for millions of years, what was present back then? What infections, what viri, what will be evoked when such is brought to the surface?

The scientists in the article above noted that from 30,000 years ago, ancient viri which have been suppressed can be brought to life. By exposure to warming environments, where the frozen preservatives are no longer present..

We've seen so many articles about new (old?) diseases surfacing these days, is it accidental mere exposure of frozen soils bring these diseases back into the forefront? Maybe..

Maybe there is no conspiracy there, but environmental warming bring back what was buried long ago..

additional references, laymen's version on BBC: ref - http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26387276


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73332000/jpg/_73332942_13-20670-large1.jpg

Definitions:

Acanthamoeba is a genus of amoebae, one of the most common protozoa in soil, and frequently found in fresh water and other habitats. Amoebae invade humans and other higher animals who swim in fresh water. Amoebae can also be present in mud puddles, and have created brain eating infections (as described earlier in the year, http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/acanthamoeba/gen_info/acanthamoeba.html)

Unicellular protists - you all know of "plankton" (spongebob squarepants) ? depicted as an "animated plankton-like protozoan organism", it is capable of moving around by its own power. http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Protists.html - these creatures were endeavoring to develop as much capability but with ONE CELL as they could. Fascinating read.

Capsid - in viruses, the dna/rna information packet which is used to infect a host organism - Icosohedral refers to the shape of the information packet.

Eukaryotes - A eukaryote is any organism whose cells contain a nucleus and other structures enclosed within membranes.

Genome - the genome is the entirety of an organism's hereditary information. It is encoded in the cell structure in the DNA or RNA.

Pandora-Virus - is a genus of very large viruses, with genomes much larger than those of any other known type of virus.

Virome - a collection of all the viruses that can be found in an area, or in an organism. In the article above the Siberian Virome would be the collection of viri known to be found in Siberia.

Cytoplasmic replication - a cytoplasmic replication cycle of virus structure can occur with no integration into the host cell genome.

Carmody
4th March 2014, 03:20
Sounds like a good candidate for being killed by ingestion of a dose of MMS. (if one is found to be infected)

Bob
4th March 2014, 03:36
Britannica says the releasing of ancient viri is happening (by the melting of frozen glaciers)

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2010/02/the-return-of-ancient-viruses-freed-from-glaciers-in-a-warming-world/

The concept of ancient viri previously "frozen" being revived is real.

"To think that we might someday find ourselves infected with an ancient strain of virus seems like science fiction.

"But in the late 1990s scientists discovered dormant tomato mosaic tobamovirus (ToMV) in ice cores from Greenland.

"The cores dated to between 500 and 140,000 years ago, providing evidence that ancient viruses still exist. Further inquiry revealed that, despite having been trapped in time in a frozen environment for many years, the virus possessed almost the same genetic composition as modern ToMV strains.

"This discovery, though puzzling at first, was paramount. It indicated not only that environmental ice can serve as a reservoir for ancient and potentially infectious agents but also that viruses from the past may be released periodically from glaciers as they melt and are eroded over time.

"The freezing and thawing of water in facilitating the transition of viruses between dormant and active states was demonstrated unequivocally in 2006, following the isolation of genetic material of a strain of influenza virus from ice covering lakes located above the Arctic Circle.

"The lakes lie along the migration routes of birds traveling to and from various parts of the world, including Africa, Asia, and North America.

"Birds serve as influenza repositories, where different strains of the virus mingle, ultimately facilitating the process of viral genome recycling, in which genes from old viruses are mixed into the genomes of closely related, currently circulating strains. If these new versions jump from birds to humans, they may be able to give rise to an epidemic or a pandemic.

"Thousands of birds from all over the world congregating in Arctic lakes in the spring and summer, picking up last year’s viruses drifting along in the water after having been released from melting ice, are sanctuaries for viral dissemination on a global scale.

"Such freeze-thaw cycles enrich the process of genome recycling in various types of viruses. "

In other words, these "new" viral epidemics, pandemics may not be really "new" but could be a result of the development of the previously frozen regions of the Earth for Oil exploitation or other "economic" uses.

"According to the United Nations Environment Programme and the World Glacier Monitoring Service, many of Earth’s glaciers are melting with unprecedented speed—most are expected to vanish in the second half of this century. As a consequence, the answers scientists’ are seeking to questions about viruses trapped in ice may come sooner than we would like."


http://icons.wxug.com/metgraphics/climate/arctic_climate_scenarios.gif

Bob
4th March 2014, 03:48
LA Times has also picked up on this -

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-giant-virus-revived-20140302,0,4662287.story#axzz2uxiENNbR

"The latest find, described online Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, appears to belong to a new family of mega-viruses that infect only amoeba. But its revival in a laboratory stands as “a proof of principle that we could eventually resurrect active infectious viruses from different periods,” said the study’s lead author, microbiologist Jean-Michel Claverie of Aix-Marseille University in France."

"The researchers plan to reexamine large viruses that have been mistaken for bacteria in the past -- one such specimen, found in 2008, had infected an amoeba living in a 17-year-old woman’s contact lens solution.

"They also plan to look more deeply into the Siberian ice cores. "We have a sample that dates to 3 million years old,” Abergel said.

"Those samples could harbor ancient forms of relatively modern human pathogens, including smallpox, which was rampant in Siberia. Fragments of a smallpox virus, for example, have been identified in Siberian mummies dating from the late 17th century.

“I would not be surprised that those viruses are still in the ground,” Claverie said."


Do you think that maybe digging around in frozen ground could be similar to digging around in old grave-sites?

johnf
4th March 2014, 03:49
Natures own depopulation mechanism?
So keep those energy devices suppressed, keep drilling till
they spread a little then release all sorts of your cures, and solutions for better living when there are fewer humans?
Sorry, I am just naturally diabolical.

JohnF

sheme
4th March 2014, 17:30
Sounds like they are prepping us with an excuse for the appearance of the new virus's they have already made.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
5th March 2014, 02:41
Sounds like they are prepping us with an excuse for the appearance of the new virus's they have already made.

Bingo. As happened with Ebola and AIDS. iirc :(

Have you guys checked into "antibody dependent hemorrhagic Dengue fever" in the context of the "uganda ebola" a year and a half ago?

I think it was Dengue not Ebola. there are all kinds of "new secondary strains" of common diseases now which are worse than their "parents" were.

Ellisa
5th March 2014, 02:59
Possibly there's a reason these virus are nick-named Pandora virus. Do we know what we are doing?

Bob
5th March 2014, 18:08
I think Scheme, Tesla, and Ellisa are pointing out something that does happen. The name Pandora (as in pandora's box?) or in Pandora as in being HUGE (As in Cameron's Avatar, Pandora had HUGE occupants, functional very developed for the world they were living in) was an attempt to describe what scientists were calling, a new bridge between single celled lifeforms and the "primative" virus.

It was said that the scientists decided to call it a Pandora-virus to give tribute to the Greek goddess Pandora, (that container which contained untold unexpected "surprises").. That would seem rather poetic or the scientists knew more was potentially "in there" in the viral capsid than possibly could be known..

ref: http://theconversation.com/a-new-branch-of-life-found-in-a-pond-in-melbourne-pandoravirus-promises-future-surprises-16627

The "infection" mechanism is said to be unique,:

"[..] the description of their reproductive cycle is fascinating.

" The particles disappear when they first enter the amoeba’s cell, but then thousands of viruses inside an envelope are assembled in a “a manner similar to knitting”. "

The viral particles thusly are woven into this long string (as shown in the OP picture). They use the infected organism as the "food" protein source, a very vampiristic relationship is present then, living off the "other" to grow.

What are the consequences of releasing older strains of pandora-viri into the environment?