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Kalamos
5th March 2014, 08:06
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Kalamos
5th March 2014, 09:18
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Kalamos
5th March 2014, 09:57
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Kalamos
5th March 2014, 11:57
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turiya
8th March 2014, 07:29
Hi Calamus
In playing the "devil's advocate," here (pun esoterically intended), I would have to throw in my 2 cents worth by saying that you have somewhat limited the discussion here with the installment of "fence post signs" which read: "For The Theosophically-Minded: WELCOME"
As it is well understood, particularly from the Chris Thomas thread, that you have a genuine disdain for anything that suggests that Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy Movement has been anything other than having a righteous cause, let alone the possibility that it may be a front for a race of beings that lay behind the scenes, and of which have an ulterior motive that is presently being played out to undermine the immediate future development in the evolution of consciousness for humanity at large.
I know this will not be warmly received, however I only do so to provide for the purpose & for the possibility that a proper discussion on this matter may take place. I would like to add that I was also thoroughly disheartened by the closure of your most recent thread regarding the possibility that the forum is perhaps being used for the likelihood of a UFO religious cult to be created. And/or for, at least, the minds of the many that come onto this forum to be deflected onto an undefined course - namely, an agenda geared to distract.
But before any thoughts on that subject be written regarding that, we must first get through the subject matter-at-hand, a subject that I know is near & dear to your heart. Please consider the material that I stumbled across during one of my google searchers that was done just a few hours prior to my posting it, here. An excerpt of which I lay before you for your consideration:
MAHATMAS IN SPACE
It appears that the Theosophical generation that arose in the wake of World War II did not restrict its ambitions to Earth. During the 1950s Theosophically-inclined flying saucer enthusiasts revivified the Mahatmas of classical Theosophy by reinventing them as benevolent “Space Brothers” arriving on Earth in physical vehicles in order to teach and protect the self-destructive children of the planet. The notion that the Mahatmas originated from somewhere special, or belonged to a place out of reach, was in accordance with classical Theosophical ideas, but distant planets provided a new and fresh realm for Theosophical imaginations, and apparently triggered the same kind of fascination that Tibet—the traditional and best known abode of “the Adepts” — had done previously. The limits of the exotic are always changing, and the Shangri-La of religious fantasies could no longer be satisfied with a remote valley in the Himalayas as in James Hilton’s 1933 novel…
While this mythical relocation is of importance to the development of Theosophy specifically, it is a typical and predictable phenomenon in the history of religions more generally. Gods and other superhuman agents are not supposed to be too approachable, and by relocating the Mahatmas to other planets in the Solar System, or confining them to strange spacecraft, a necessary and invigorating distance was maintained.
In the 1950s the other planets were fundamentally terra incognita (in not exactly “terra”), and could without difficulty be connected with the mysterious or divine. Earth had to give up more and more secrets, but deep space and the other planets represented bountiful lands of possibility, not least for esoteric or occult speculations. The theological translocation of the Mahatmas, in short, stimulated the balance between intuitive and counter-intuitive ontologies that seems to be crucial to the survival and transmission of religious belief systems.
But wait—there’s more…
The general political situation in the world also framed this religious creativity, and would determine important aspects of how things were to develop. WWII was over, but a new Cold War was building up, and religions, like many other cultural systems, were adapting to the tense political climate. It is, for instance, commonly recogized that fear of an atomic holocaust made a profound impact upon religious thinking and behavior in the early 1950s. The memory of what had transpired in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was vivid, but rather than closing down the devastating nuclear programs, the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. intensified their efforts to overpower one another by accumulating as many atomic warheads as possible. As originally shown by Robert Pearson Flaherty (1990), the growing fear caused by the irresponsible and uncontrollable arms race was perhaps the most significant impetus to what has tentatively been designated “the flying saucer myth,” and the subsequent emergence of organizations based on millenarian dispositions of various kinds, propagating soteriological expectations of extraterrestrial visitation. Disregarding later developments of either Christian or predominantly scientific kinds, we can safely say that the popular imagination regarding “flying saucers,” as it developed from a confusing public narrative into a more coherent myth, was very soon to be nurtured by rich tradition of Theosophical beliefs and imagery. With some caution we may even claim that the benevolent visiting alien is, in essence, a Theosophical product.
MAHATMAS IN SPACE by Mikael Rothstein (Page 220-21)
SOURCE (http://books.google.com/books?id=0VozAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA222&lpg=PA222&dq=%22TRUMAN+BETHURUM%22+theosophy&source=bl&ots=yuAF1LIVS0&sig=WyqBwCY3Z-uQ9Cw_uVMsV7cg9WA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BIsaU_v8CIqErAHhx4CYAw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22TRUMAN%20BETHURUM%22%20theosophy&f=false)
to be continued...
turiya :cool:
turiya
8th March 2014, 07:49
Continuing...
More from Jacques Vallee: (a cross-post from another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68281-MESSENGERS-OF-DECEPTION-Jacques-Vallee&p=796501&viewfull=1#post796501))
A Dreamworld Far Off
It is a common mistake to assume that contactees are always irresponsible crackpots or elderly mystics. A case in point is a young man named Gregory, whom I used to know as a systems programmer with one of our leading ‘think tanks’. He quit his job to form a psychic center. He is now publishing a newsletter devoted to his experiences with higher entities; he believes that, in so doing, he follows the telepathic instructions of a superior force. Some feel that he has found a new moral framework based on revelation. Others argue that he is the victim of a delusion that could spread like an epidemic.[11] In either case, the implications are serious. It is not because of their numbers or because of their leaders’ thirst for power that the followers of such sects will be especially influential. Our institutions are vulnerable to the spreading belief in the irrational. People like Gregory do offer us a new dream, but it is so far from reality that it could easily turn into a complete fantasy. Here is a sample of his writing, of his pseudo-historical ‘revelations’ received from wise beings who fly through outer space:
On the eastern shore of the Peaceful Sea, God brought forth the American Republic… For the purpose of assembling the high consciousness required to conceive and establish this new Union, God sent His son Melchizedek, one time Lord of Salem, unto Christopher Columbus…
[Note that the Ascended Master 'Melchizedek (http://theosophy.net/profiles/blogs/melchizedek-attunement)' is part & parcel to the teachings of Theosophy]
Other contactee groups have overt political purposes. The leader of one such group told me:
The Earth is the property of one group of saucers that controls this end of the universe, and they call themselves "The Brothers", and they are the ones who brought the Christ on Earth 2000 years ago… If we get a little out of control, and maybe Russia would start to throw some missiles at us, from Cuba… well, they might step in, if it got too bad, and help us out. They told us they would. [Again, note, that "The Brothers (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hints-on-esoteric-theosophy-no-writers-various-writers/1114217565?ean=9780548193068)" are related to Theosophy]
This group of contactees is nationally organized as a political party.
Before we reject these views as examples of harmless lunacy, we should observe that people once had the same view of the Church of Scientology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology). Indeed, the inventor of Dianetics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianetics) is said to have practiced ritual magic with a rocket expert named Jack Parsons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_%28rocket_propulsion_engineer%29), who met in the Mojave Desert in 1945 a ‘Spiritual Being’ whom he regarded as a Venusian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venusians).
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20%26%20Witchcraft/crowleyparsonshubbard.jpg
Crowley - Parsons - Hubbard
[Almost needless to say, but will say it anyway - Crowley was very much into the Theosophical writings of Alice Bailey]
People also used to reject completely the beliefs of the Mormon Church, whose founder would today be [12] regarded as a contactee. But how many religious movements started in the same way?
For every individual who is openly identified as a contactee, how many more have received what they regard as a ‘secret illumination’? It is apparent that the transformation they undergo can strike at any place and at any age. Is it purely random, then, or do the UFOs select their “victims”? Does it spread like an epidemic, or does it develop like a psychosis? Although a group of contactees was studied in detail by sociologist Leon Festinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Festinger) (in his book When Prophecy Fails), we do not really know the answers to these questions, because too few of the contactees have been carefully investigated. What we do know is that their transformation releases ideas that challenge established structures.
Dorothy Martin - a.k.a. Sister Thedra,
also the leader of the UFO Cult known as "The Truth Seekers"
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/DOROTHY_MARTIN_and_the_TRUTH_SEEKERS.png
SOURCE (http://www.skepticink.com/lateraltruth/2014/01/15/skeptics-bookshelf-when-prophecy-fails-and-imaginary-friends/)
[Note Once Again: Dorothy Martin received her channeled messages from Ascended Master 'Sananda' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sananda_%28New_Age%29#Sananda) - once again, a figure very much a part of Theosophy Teachings. (See below.)
As another aside: Wikipedia allows us to see into this 'Sananda' a bit deeper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sananda_%28New_Age%29#Sananda):
ased on the early 1980s revelations of [B]Tuella (http://www.sanandaseagles.com/gai/pages/tuella.html), that the Master Jesus, under his galactic name "'Sananda' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sananda_%28New_Age%29#Sananda)" (the name, Joshua David Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_David_Stone) stated, he adopted after his resurrection), works with Commander Ashtar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_%28extraterrestrial_being%29), flying with Pallas Athena in their own flying saucer within the Ashtar Galactic Command flying saucer fleet as its Commander-in-Chief.[38 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sananda_%28New_Age%29#cite_note-38)][39 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sananda_%28New_Age%29#cite_note-39)] According to Stone, another name used by Commander Ashtar to denote his flying saucer fleet is "The Airborne Division of the Great White Brotherhood" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Jesus#Airborne_Division_of_the_Brotherhood_of_Light).[40 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sananda_%28New_Age%29#cite_note-40)] It is believed that Ashtar is originally from a planet called Ashtar, but he moved to Venus thousands of years ago. It is said that he formed the Ashtar Galactic Command Flying Saucer Fleet at the beginning of the Atomic Age in 1945 and that in the early 1980s, at the behest of Sanat Kumara, Sananda (the Master Jesus) and Pallas Athena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena#Pallas_Athena) took over command of the fleet. Stone continued to present these teachings after 1996 at the yearly Wesak Mount Shasta gatherings.
And, One more time from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seekers_%28Chicago%29): In 1965 she [Dorothy Martin - aka "Sister Thedra"] founded a new UFO contact group, the Association of Sananda and Sanat Kumara (http://www.answers.com/topic/association-of-sananda-and-sanat-kumara), and soon thereafter moved the organization to Mount Shasta, California. In 1988, the group moved to Sedona, Arizona. Under the name "Sister Thedra," she continued "channeling" and participating in UFO contact groups until her death in 1992. As of 2008, the Association was still active and headquartered in Sedona.
JACQUES VALLEE SOURCE (http://eatyourspinachbrother.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/messengers-of-deception.pdf)
Images by moi ;)
I could go on, here, but I am certain you have gotten my drift.
turiya :cool:
turiya
8th March 2014, 21:35
But still will continue with more (as to drive the nail a bit deeper), while I am on a roll here:
GEORGE ADAMSKI:
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/GEORGE_ADAMSKI.png
George Adamski
George Adamski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski)was the first contactee, by far the most successful (http://paraview.com/bennett/index.htm), and undoubtedly the inspiration for all those that followed, including Swiss cult leader Billy Meier (https://webspace.utexas.edu/cokerwr/www/index.html/sbrothers.shtml#meier), who has modeled himself and his revelations from space brothers closely on Adamski. In the late 1940s Adamski was the leader of a very small religious cult (about 20 members) strongly influenced by Theosophy. His day job involved dishwashing and cleanup at a hamburger stand run by the commune. In 1949, he wrote and self-published a science fiction novel, Pioneers of Space, about human-appearing wise men who lived on the moon, Mars and Venus. He also began to circulate close-up photos of flying saucers, which eventually looked exactly like light fixtures, complete with light-bulbs; he said the shots were taken with his 6-inch reflecting astronomical telescope.
Adamski made headlines in the winter of 1953, when he reported that the year before, he had met and talked with a man from Venus (a common home base of Theosophy's spiritual adepts). His followup book, Flying Saucers Have Landed, was mainly a summary of Theosophical teachings about space travellers, written by British Theosophist Desmond Leslie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Dzyan#The_Stanzas_of_Dzyan_in_the_works_of_other_authors). At the time of his death in 1965, Adamski had according to some reports become quite wealthy, mainly from lecture fees as he crossed and crisscrossed the US and Europe giving first-hand accounts of his amazing experiences— including trips to a giant Mother Ship in earth orbit, and on to other planets— and the exciting cosmic and spiritual revelations given to him by the friendly, profoundly wise Space Brothers from Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn... all of whom were physically indistinguishable from earth humans.
http://radtrap.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/9709maitreya.jpg?w=593&h=261&crop=1
Benjamin Crème
In recent years Adamski and his teachings seem to have been incorporated into the strange esoteric cult led by 90-year-old British guru Benjamin Crème (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Creme) (also a Theosophist), who apparently met Adamski in the late 1950s, perhaps on one of Adamski's worldwide lecture tours.
EDUARD (BILLY) MEIER:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Billy_meier.jpg
Billy Meier
According to his own autobiography, dropped out of school in the 6th grade, was confined to mental hospitals for 5 years until he escaped, and became fascinated with Theosophy, somewhat in that order. After reading a translation of Adamski's first two books, Meier started making similar claims and showing similar photos. His saucer-riding claims date from about 1965 and are closely based on Adamski's, including trips to the mother ship in earth orbit, on to Venus (a typical characteristic relevant to Theosophy at that time), etc. His main innovation was to have the Space Brothers come from another solar system. About 10 years later Meier shot some color photos and super-8 movies of several different hubcap-like flying saucers. In his office in the headquarters building of the cult community he founded in Switzerland in the 1960s, Meier boldly still has all these saucers on display on a shelf. After a divorce, Meier's ex-wife revealed how she had helped him make the models and take the photos. Meier's standing among members of his cult, and among “contactee” buffs, has not been affected by such revelations.
Shemjase
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/SHEMJASE.png
"A Space Brother (or Sister) as described by Billy Meier."
HEAVEN'S GATE:
Next, and not to leave out the UFO religious cult most noted for the largest mass suicide in American history, founded by "the Two"; "Bo & Peep", also called "Ti & Do". Below is the cover of time magazine that hit the news stands when members of the Heaven’s Gate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29) cult committed mass suicide.
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/HEAVENS_GATE_Marshall_Applewhite.png
Marshall Applewhite
There were a total of 39 people who killed themselves. Without getting into all of events leading up to this horrific end, the final act of suicide should, to any reasonable person, send up a barrage of warning flares for any one who might consider the so-called teaching of the groups founders, Applewhite & Nettles, as anything other than demonic deception.
The groups founders were Marshall Applewhite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Applewhite) and Bonnie Lou Nettles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Nettles). Nettles practiced channeling – which is contact with the demonic entities from the second Heaven – and was a member of the Theosophical Society (https://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/messengers-of-deception/). This goes back to Madame Helena Blavatsky, who some consider the “mother” of the New Age movement.
GEORGE KING:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VOruGN5X7yA/UARsNpFvQXI/AAAAAAAAIbY/Fe8lBlJl7Qg/s1600/image071.jpg
George King
A British taxi driver and yoga enthusiast, came a bit late to the Contactee Circus, making his first claims in 1956, but he quickly founded a fairly successful religion, which continues to the present day - The Aetherius Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aetherius_Society). the principles of his cult as laid down by King are the usual mix of Theosophy [which seems to be at the basic core of all the 1950s contactee messages] and pantheism, but it also incorporates a variety of other New Age beliefs, plus a few quirks unique to King himself. Alice A. Bailey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Bailey) has a lot to answer for, since her fingerprints are all over the typical spectrum of beliefs of most of the UFO religious cults, including King's.
George Van Tassel:
https://www.ph.utexas.edu/~coker2/calbum/GVT.jpg
George Van Tassel
A Famous Contactee in the 50's. George was given the plans & the mission
to build the "Integratron" by his alien contacts
Early flying saucer contactee and author of the pioneering flying saucer volume, "I Rode in a Flying Saucer" (1952). As people responded to his claims of extraterrestrial contact and other contactees emerged, Van Tassel organized the Giant Rock Space Convention, held annually at Giant Rock Airport, near Yucca Valley, California. Van Tassel was proprietor of the airport and had some background in aeronautics.
Van Tassel was born on March 11, 1910, in Jefferson, Ohio. He went into aviation as a young man and worked for both Howard Hughes and Lockheed. He moved to the desert in 1947 where he opened a restaurant, an airport, and a dude ranch. In 1952 he began to receive psychic messages from extraterrestrials, primarily from a group of people who made up what was called the Ashtar Command. The Ashtar Command (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_%28extraterrestrial_being%29) operated very much like the Masters of theosophical traditions, but were seen as authorities in this solar system.
Over the years Van Tassel claimed to have continued contact with the Ashtar Command telepathically. He often went into a trance in his circle of friends and communicated messages allegedly from UFO entities. Such communications were published in his journal, "Proceedings of the College of Universal Wisdom", and became the basis for future books.
turiya :cool:
Kalamos
8th March 2014, 22:36
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GuyFox
9th March 2014, 01:32
"To sum up the above, our Brothers are trying to help, but they have human-nature resistance (which is just an evolutionary hurdle) as well as direct interference from a dominating force in our closest invisible dimensions"
WHY?
Why would they bother to help us?
Is this the same type of HELP that the US offers, when it invades a country to "make it safe for democracy"?
(whoops, so why are American troops defending poppy fields?)
Who really will benefit from this "help"?
(As above. so below - as as below, so above - Right?)
turiya
9th March 2014, 05:06
"To sum up the above, our Brothers are trying to help, but they have human-nature resistance (which is just an evolutionary hurdle) as well as direct interference from a dominating force in our closest invisible dimensions"
WHY?
Why would they bother to help us?
Is this the same type of HELP that the US offers, when it invades a country to "make it safe for democracy"?
(whoops, so why are American troops defending poppy fields?)
Who really will benefit from this "help"?
(As above. so below - as as below, so above - Right?)
Yes, its the same type of help that governments provide the little people - fluoride in the water, pharmaceutical drugs to replace natural herbs, police protection because you can't protect yourself (from yourself), drug testing because you are not capable of being responsible, welfare because you can't live without us, a fiat money system so we can tax you to death (you will thank us for doing so), an RFID chip in your body because we don't know who you are (and neither do you)!
Frederick Jackson
10th March 2014, 20:59
Thanks Turiya for the great history lesson and reminding us that when it comes to UFOlogy there are many who go off the deep end. I read Adamski when I was 12 years old. (It was pretty good reading for a 12 year old.) Your history should help in keeping Avalonians from going off the deep end too. After all, Avalon is supposed to be a place where science and spirituality meet.
SPIRIT WOLF
10th March 2014, 21:33
Interesting thread title, I must ask though how many here have any actual research/investigation experience into ufology? How long in years has this active, not passive, research and investigation been done? Who was around in the 60's and 70's as a researcher/investigator?. This is to gauge how experienced some of you might be as answers can only really be obtained by those with many years in the field as opposed to those in an armchair or behind a computer screen. True ufologists have got their hands dirty over time in the cause.
jagman
10th March 2014, 21:52
Interesting thread title, I must ask though how many here have any actual research/investigation experience into ufology? How long in years has this active, not passive, research and investigation been done? Who was around in the 60's and 70's as a researcher/investigator?. This is to gauge how experienced some of you might be as answers can only really be obtained by those with many years in the field as opposed to those in an armchair or behind a computer screen. True ufologists have got their hands dirty over time in the cause.
I base my own experience off of having talked to some of the best guys
in ufology and their research. Plus we have some members right here at
PA who devoted alot of their time and effort to the subject... Example Mojo
Kalamos
11th March 2014, 07:24
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turiya
11th March 2014, 21:11
Jacques Vallee wrote:
The Manipulation Hypothesis
In 1967 I was visiting the CU physics department. I had lunch with Professor Condon (http://photos.aip.org/history/Thumbnails/condon_edward_a1.jpg) and the staff of his recently organized committee for the study of UFOs. They had just received half a million dollars from the U.S. Air Force to find out whether we were being visited by ETs.
I told Condon that I believed the problem of UFOs could be solved scientifically. He replied that he wasn’t so sure: “It could be something like the existence of God,” he said, “a problem about which science has nothing to say.” I disagree with that view. Science could have analyzed the observations and reached a conclusion then. But it may be too late now.
Professor Condon and his team, who had been picked because they were presumably impartial and unprejudiced, went on to write a report stating that no evidence existed for the reality of UFOs. The report was reviewed and approved by the National Academy of Sciences in 1969, leaving the field of UFO research wide open for charlatans and hoaxers of all kinds. In Man the Puppet: The Art of Controlling Minds, published in 1925, Abram Lipsky reminds us of a thought of William James:
If he wanted to pick an outright duffer for a scientific research he would take a student who was impartial and unprejudiced. An emotional urge, even if it be only pride in a preformed opinion, is necessary to give the push to intellectual activity.*
It has taken almost ten years for serious researchers to begin challenging the Condon Report (http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/condonreport.htm). [See also analysis by P. A. Sturrock (http://www.noufors.com/Documents/Books,%20Manuals%20and%20Published%20Papers/Journal%20of%20Scientific%20Exploration/jse_01_1_sturrock_2.pdf)] The controversy is more lively than ever as increasing numbers of young scientists of the “UFO generation” wonder about the reality of UFOs and eagerly look for an answer. I have long pondered that same question. The answer I have formed is a disturbing one. It can be expressed very simply: it doesn’t matter anymore whether flying saucers are real or not. It still matters to me, of course, as an individual scientist. I have often stated, and I still believe today, that UFOs are real and technological. When I say that it doesn’t matter whether they are real or not, I am speaking of their social impact.
You can find scholars who will “prove” to you that the supernatural powers of Jesus Christ never existed. You can also find scholars who will “prove” to you that they did exist. Does it matter? Of course not! It only matters to the experts, who have staked their academic reputations on either side of the argument. The effects of the belief in Jesus, the impact of the doctrine based on the story of his life and death, are real enough. Socially, historically, the consequences are beyond question. I claim that the same now applies to flying saucers because enough people believe in them, enough people believe that contact with them is possible, and enough people even believe that they have secretly achieved such contact.
In 1967, Condon and his team could have done a serious scientific study of UFOs, but they didn’t. now it is too late for science. The social, historical, and political consequences of the spreading belief in the contact with space are here, and they are real, no matter how ludicrous and bizarre they may appear. In fact, the more ludicrous and bizarre they appear, the more effective they are as subliminal seduction and as other forms of psychological control, and subliminal seduction is exactly what we are dealing with here.
The belief in UFO contact, and the expectation of visitation by beings from space, is promoted by certain groups of people who are responsible for advertising UFO contacts, for circulating faked photographs (often in connection with genuine sightings), for interfering with witnesses and researchers, and for generating systematic “disinformation” about the phenomenon. We may find that they belong, or have access, to military, media, and government circles. In these games it is not clear exactly which side is infiltrating the other.
In December 1972, for example, a Spanish researcher received a letter postmarked South Kensington, England, and bearing the signia of UMMO (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummo&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dummites%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D590), a self-styled extraterrestrial government.* The letter urged the researcher not to publicize their group and to keep to himself their communications (which ranged widely from biology and religion to astrophysics).
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*The name UMMO may be hiding an inside joke. In 1970 a company called UMO Plant Hire, Ltd., was incorporated in Great Britain. It turned out to be a Soviet spy front. In September 1971, 105 Soviet officials were expelled from Britain for espionage, and UMO was closed down.
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Such letters had been received since 1965 by several Spanish and foreign researchers. They allegedly came from inhabitants of the planet UMMO who were living secretly among the Spanish population. These communications included thousands of pages of philosophical and scientific discussion, some of it trivial, some profound or even illuminating.
http://www.ummo-ciencias.org/objetos/Fotos%20San%20Jose%20Valderas.jpg (http://www.ummo-ciencias.org/historia.html)
On two occasions prior to 1965, it is said that officers of the CIA stationed in Madrid received letters from these “visitors.” They stated that two of their “brothers” had lived from 1952 to 1954 at 58 Mayor Street, in Albacente, where they were the guests of a society lady, Señor Margarita Ruiz de Lihory. In her house they had conducted “psychological experiments with animals,” the letter said. Following up on this information, authorities began checking into what they assumed was some kind of joke. They found that in February 1954, a corpse had been mutilated in the house in question. It was the body of Miss Margot Shelly Ruiz de Lihory, a daughter of the lady mentioned in the UMMO letter. A hand and other limbs had been sectioned. A sensational trial resulted.
Rumor has it in Spain that the CIA is actively trying to locate the so-called “biologists” of Albacente, and that a mysterious “Mr. W. Rumsey" has offered $1,000 to anyone providing information about them.
If it is a joke, it has been carried a little far. But if it is not a joke, what is its purpose? Is there a symbolic message buried in the actions [56] of such groups? To whom is the message directed? What psychological and social attitudes among the public might be promoted? To study these questions, we must examine more closely the fantastic world of the UFO contactees.
SOURCE: MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION by Jacques Vallee (http://www.scribd.com/doc/33478326/Jacques-Vallee-Messengers-of-Deception)
POSTED by turiya
SPIRIT WOLF
11th March 2014, 21:38
Interesting thread title, I must ask though how many here have any actual research/investigation experience into ufology? How long in years has this active, not passive, research and investigation been done? Who was around in the 60's and 70's as a researcher/investigator?. This is to gauge how experienced some of you might be as answers can only really be obtained by those with many years in the field as opposed to those in an armchair or behind a computer screen. True ufologists have got their hands dirty over time in the cause.
I base my own experience off of having talked to some of the best guys
in ufology and their research. Plus we have some members right here at
PA who devoted alot of their time and effort to the subject... Example Mojo
Thanks for the response but talking to some ufologists is not the same as actually working within the field, and how much time was spent by Mojo if I may ask? I state this as its very different reading about this subject, watching films etc and perusing forums than actually being in the field for a great deal of time. Actual experience counts when it boils down to it.
jagman
11th March 2014, 23:07
Interesting thread title, I must ask though how many here have any actual research/investigation experience into ufology? How long in years has this active, not passive, research and investigation been done? Who was around in the 60's and 70's as a researcher/investigator?. This is to gauge how experienced some of you might be as answers can only really be obtained by those with many years in the field as opposed to those in an armchair or behind a computer screen. True ufologists have got their hands dirty over time in the cause.
I base my own experience off of having talked to some of the best guys
in ufology and their research. Plus we have some members right here at
PA who devoted alot of their time and effort to the subject... Example Mojo
Thanks for the response but talking to some ufologists is not the same as actually working within the field, and how much time was spent by Mojo if I may ask? I state this as its very different reading about this subject, watching films etc and perusing forums than actually being in the field for a great deal of time. Actual experience counts when it boils down to it.
I dont Know the amount of Hours per say but I have been on the forum since 2011
and he's wrote and posted a tremendouis amount of material on UFO's.
In order to be a good researcher you must invest time in the field but research
iis also critical, and Mojo does both!
Peace be with you SPIRIT WOLF
SPIRIT WOLF
11th March 2014, 23:09
That's good on both counts and am pleased many have devoted time to this subject, myself? 47 years, and quite a few in the 70's full time
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