View Full Version : Earthquake Strikes Crimea; Russian Troops Blame U.S. HAARP Attack
Sunny-side-up
6th March 2014, 01:34
http://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/earthquake-strikes-crimea/
March 1, 2014 11:43 PM EST — (TRN) — A significant earthquake has struck the Crimean peninsula in the Ukraine within the last hour and Russian military sources are claiming it was a deliberate attack by the United States using it’s HAARP Array in Alaska, in retaliation for Russia placing troops into the Ukraine.
Hmm! more of the story at above link!
I think the only HAARP-like station (ionospheric heater) active at the time is run by the Russians themselves. The Sura ionospheric heater is claimed to be at least if not more powerful than the shut-down US Alaskan HAARP facility. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/haarp/esp_haarp_27.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_haarp/haarp27_01.jpg
I'm not a HAARP fan, but I have followed since it was shut-down, that there isn't any funding available to run it currently, leaving NORWAY and the RUSSIANS the only two operating such ionospheric heaters.
The Sura Ionospheric Heating Facility, located near the small town of Vasilsursk about 100 km eastward from Nizhniy Novgorod in Russia, is a laboratory for ionosphere research. Sura is capable of radiating about 190 MW, effective radiated power (ERP) on short waves.
This facility is operated by the radiophysical research institute NIRFI in Nizhny Novgorod. The Sura facility was commissioned in 1981. Using this facility, Russian researchers achieved extremely interesting results regarding the ionosphere behavior and discovered the effect of generation of low-frequency emission at the modulation of ionosphere current.
The US FACILITY started in 1993.
It should be pointed out RUSSIAN scientists (military?) have been using their ionospheric heater since 1981. If such heaters are "weapons" as claimed the US HAARP is, (which is offline), then the Russians have had such weapons, have used such (on the planet) for many more years..
Let's put that in perspective when one claims inaccurately, that "it's been the US HAARP" that has been causing damage worldwide, when it is more likely that the Russian electromagnetic weapons systems (which have been known to out-perform any low level US experimentation EM ionospheric systems) have been developed as an expansion of the Russian Woodpecker (they said such was over-the-horizon radar, when it fact it was most likely a PSI weapon)..
The SURA technical specs
Technical information:
The frequency range of the heating facility is from 4.5 to 9.3 MHz.
The facility consists of three 250 kW broadcasting transmitters and a 144 crossed dipole antenna-array with dimensions of 300 m x 300 m. At the middle of the operating frequency range (4.5 – 9.3 MHz) a maximum zenith gain of about 260 (~24 dB) is reached, the ERP of the facility is 190 MW (~83 dbW).
The Norway Ionospheric Heater
http://rezn8d.net/2013/01/22/ionospheric-heaters-worldwide-map-of-radars-like-haarp/
Tromsø Ionospheric Heater
Ramfjordmoen, Near Tromsø, Norway
This facility is being upgraded to make the US pipsqueek HAARP facility seem like a small flashlight..
(upgrading to a 100 GIGAWATT EISCAT 3D )
Also contains a -
Tromso Incoherent Scatter Radar
CEDAR: EIS
EIS Instrument Details
144 antenna array
1200 MW ERP 5.3-8.0 MHz
36 antenna array x 2
300 MW ERP 3.8-5.7 and 5.3-8.0 MHz
Tromso MF Radar
CEDAR: TRF
TRF Instrument Details
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It should be noted that the Russian Sura facility was able to create ULF/ELF ionospheric waves very readily and has been doing such. Russian mind control technology has out-paced any US developments and there are articles (see research published by Cheryl Welsh - http://mindjustice.org/2003_survey.htm) showing the intense development by the Russians.
The US has been very very slow in performing global planet-wide "beaming" technology, while opting for brain implant technology (see my Darpa articles in the Forum for data on that). Planet-wide beaming is sloppy, what Darpa has proposed is laser precise. There is a big difference between the two concepts that the Russians and the US military (Darpa) has worked on.
The Norway facility though, that one is truly scarey. 100 GIGA watts is many many many times more magnitude than the Russian and defunct US Haarp heater.
ThePythonicCow
6th March 2014, 02:14
I'm not a HAARP fan, but I have followed since it was shut-down, that there isn't any funding available to run it currently, leaving NORWAY and the RUSSIANS the only two operating such ionospheric heaters.
From what I can make of it, HAARP is not shut down.
See for example this recent (Jan 2014) report in the Alaska Dispatch: Air Force plans to pull plug on Alaska's controversial HAARP facility (http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20140127/air-force-plans-pull-plug-alaskas-controversial-haarp-facility), which states in part:
Today, the biggest change on the horizon for HAARP is back down on earth -- the quiet announcement by the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) that it wants to pull the plug.
Maj. Gen. Thomas Masiello wrote last fall that the Air Force lab “intends to cease operations and sustainment of the facility located in Gakona, Ak.
“Given the facility overhead costs, declining budget and competing priorities, AFRL is pursuing a transfer of the facility to another entity that would accept ownership and operations,” Masiello said. If the Air Force can’t find someone to take it over, it will be dismantled, he said.
Last summer the facility was temporarily shut down (http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20130717/alaska-s-controversial-haarp-facility-closed-will-it-come-back-online), but Ahtna Facility Services took over the operations and maintenance Sept. 30. But the Air Force says it can’t afford the $4 to $5 million a year its costs to run the site, the most powerful ionospheric heater in the world. It is called a heater because the energy directed skyward from the 180 antennas spread over 30 acres is used to heat electrons in the ionosphere (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18620&page=1), not in the atmosphere below.
See also the Avalon thread on this: HAARP Facility Shuts Down (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61259-HAARP-Facility-Shuts-Down).
Also ... it would surprise me if the Alaska facility was the only site of its kind under the control of the US Military and its Contractors. There are reports of other such facilities, from perhaps unreliable sources, including Golden Age of Gaia (http://goldenageofgaia.com/accountability/weather-warfare/gps-coordinates-for-20-of-the-top-haarp-facilities/), Faith and Survival (http://faithandsurvival.com/2011/05/haarp-part-ii-locations-within-the-united-states/), GeoEngineeringWatch (http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/possible-haarp-locations-around-the-world/), and Rense.com (http://rense.com/general92/haarp.htm)
There isn't any emission coming from the US HAARP facility - you can listen for it on shortwave. That doesn't mean that it won't start up in the future, but the facts really are, the NORWAY facility will have way more power. US HAARP IMHO is old news.
US frequencies - The HAARP project directs a 3.6 MW signal, in the 2.8–10 MHz region of the HF (high-frequency) band, into the ionosphere.
Russian frequencies and power - 190 MW (~83 dbW). 4.5 to 9.3 MHz
Norway frequencies and power - Tromsø in Norway, capable of transmitting 1.2 MW or over 1 GW same range plus extended ranges. Will be upgrading to a 100 GIGAWATT EISCAT 3D system.
Norway facility is the worrisome one - HAARP US is laughable compared to the others.
What should be a concern is the ULF/ELF ionospheric oscillation waves which can modulate the geomagnetic fields, and please take a look at Cheryl Welsh's research - there is a lot, I only referenced ONE.. (I may put a paper or two on the RUSSIAN global mind control projects, how the Russians more-so than the US has been actively developing EM planet-wide weapons.. The US has concentrated on directable MICROWAVE systems, very precision pin-point systems, not sloppy global systems)
ED POST UPDATE:
Here I added a simple image showing some relative brightness comparisons to try to give folks an idea of the differences of power between the major Ionospheric Heater systems that had been used, (Haarp on the Right), the Russian Facility in the middle, and the Norway Facility on the LEFT.
As you can SEE, HAARP is dim, the Russian facility is very annoying, the Norway facility is blinding..
http://chanlo.com/images/compare-brightness.jpg
heretogrow
6th March 2014, 02:50
Bobd, I don't know if I really believe that there has been no HAARP activity involved. Though I do believe in you, your integrity and I so respect your posts. I am just not sure that what they are reporting is the truth! THANK YOU for trying to seek out the truth. And thank you for your wisdom and insight! It is looked forward to and greatly appreciated dear friend!!!
Tyy1907
6th March 2014, 02:55
Deliberate disruption being caused in that already troubled country. Not hard to read between the lines on this one!
Bobd, I don't know if I really believe that there has been no HAARP activity involved. Though I do believe in you, your integrity and I so respect your posts. I am just not sure that what they are reporting is the truth! THANK YOU for trying to seek out the truth. And thank you for your wisdom and insight! It is looked forward to and greatly appreciated dear friend!!!
Thanks, if the Russians are saying there are earthquakes from some Ionospheric heater facility - obviously take a look what is in their own back door, or over in Norway.
Aren't those places closer, higher power? Just trying to find the obvious..
http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Map-Of-The-World.jpg
Tesla_WTC_Solution
6th March 2014, 03:05
Paul and Bobd, is it possible that the HAARP program is being thoroughly investigated, because of people like us, who ask questions?
I noticed that BAE Systems was involved with HAARP until they lost the contract last year (unless I read wrong) --
is it possible that the manager/builders got into trouble because of failure to disclose some key facts about the purpose of the project?
I know that's a stretch, but BAE makes my skin crawl.
They won some huge contracts a year and a half prior to 9/11 iirc.
And they made a big huge deal with GE on 1/19/1999.
9/11 was a happy day for the weapons dealers, which is one of BAE's functions.
They build and sell weapons, design and redesign weapons, and benefit from war.
I would take their NANA away too if I was president.
"No arseholes need apply!"
On this this page: http://rezn8d.net/2013/01/22/ionospheric-heaters-worldwide-map-of-radars-like-haarp/
that page talks about a LOT of countries, Japan included, doing ionospheric heaters, or experimental plasma generators.
US HAARP is something one can bash, that's all it is.
I've tracked the original research on the development from the work up at Boulder, Colorado's Atmosphere labs, the early papers. US ionospheric experiments were big time when long range LF radio was used for military communications. Ionospheric studies were performed to see if enemy radio could be jammed.
The side effect of modulating the ionosphere is that sub-harmonics, or other radio frequencies can be created, and they can modulate the geomagnetic field. As humans and power grids are influenced by geomagnetic storms, (as well as from intense solar activity, and this FORUM has been posting solar reports, see that section), obviously any tools that can create such modulation would have military uses.
But the modulation system is SLOPPY. Like pressing on a water balloon, (blow up a balloon with water air mixture), press on the balloon and watch the sloshing. What you see is the same effect when a HEATER pushes on one small very very small part of the balloon (the ionosphere).. It goes everywhere, including hitting the perpetrators, as well as everyone all over the planet (as illustrated by the balloon). IT IS SLOPPY.. If such a thing could cause earthquakes because it is sloppy, it would affect the whole planet, not just some small spot.
We all need to think logically and try to imagine the balloon model. View that sloshing when you press on one small spot.. That is the mechanics. IF the whole planetwide ionosphere starts ringing catastrophically, everyone everywhere would be effected. THAT WOULD be a true doomsday situation and I just cannot believe they would blast themselves as well as some imagined enemy.
It's easy to visualize the balloon model in action.
That is what heaters are doing IF and when they can successfully create the ULF/ELF mixing frequencies.. Those things ring planet wide.
Any HAM radio operator can tell you what it sounds like when the ionosphere starts experiencing FADING when a geomagnetic storm hits.
Paul and Bobd, is it possible that the HAARP program is being thoroughly investigated, because of people like us, who ask questions?
I noticed that BAE Systems was involved with HAARP until they lost the contract last year (unless I read wrong) --
is it possible that the manager/builders got into trouble because of failure to disclose some key facts about the purpose of the project?
I know that's a stretch, but BAE makes my skin crawl.
They won some huge contracts a year and a half prior to 9/11 iirc.
And they made a big huge deal with GE on 1/19/1999.
9/11 was a happy day for the weapons dealers, which is one of BAE's functions.
They build and sell weapons, design and redesign weapons, and benefit from war.
I would take their NANA away too if I was president.
"No arseholes need apply!"
Tesla_WTC_Solution
6th March 2014, 03:25
I remember the bit in the film SPHERE, where HAARP is being used to communicate with an undersea laboratory.
And our talks about the Russian Woodpecker :)
You know what, though? One of the reasons that it's in a relatively isolated part of the USA,
could be to dampen the feedback, i.e. if it does generate a local disturbance while at the same time doing something elsewhere,
being in Alaska kind of narrows down the number of people who know or care.
it really reminds me hugely of Hellstrom's Hive. Was HAARP common knowledge when Herbert started writing novels?
How did he know about "particle pumps" and "remote resonators" etc.? without knowing about HAARP?
that guy must have been 100x smarter than me. without the internet, I would know so little about it all and still don't know much.
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Glad you keep track of that stuff!
Do you think maybe the Al Gore crowd had a problem with it or something?
like the Greenpeace folks complained? and the gov't is stalled out?
Does stray resonance count as an "emission" if it changes the weather somewhere?
HAARP is one small facility - my point in posts 2 4 7 there are many OTHER places that are working.
HAARP US is useless currently.
Russian frequencies and power - 190 MW (~83 dbW). 4.5 to 9.3 MHz
Norway frequencies and power - Tromsø in Norway, capable of transmitting 1.2 MW or over 1 GW same range plus extended ranges. Will be upgrading to a 100 GIGAWATT EISCAT 3D system.
Norway facility is the worrisome one
Those guys modulating stuff, creating ULF/ELF by multiple frequencies sent into the ionosphere is the problem.
Submarine communications systems already are setup around the world with massive very long antenna systems, that couple very well into the earth. That is besides the point. Those systems can't effectively modulate the geomagnetic field of the planet, and apparently the only way to do that is to create massive ionospheric oscillations. And if that happens, everyone everywhere gets screwed up. They wouldn't screw their own military up planetwide unless it is a doomsday scenario, I guess IMHO..
Carmody
6th March 2014, 03:41
I had read somewhere that there were in the area of 26 local HAARP type devices in the process of being made. Ie, 26 smaller facilities, local to each given metropolitan area. All over the world.
That the three in discussion may be only 3 of approximately 30. Not that the 26 proposed units were all built. IIRC, even the middle east was getting into the game?
Tesla_WTC_Solution
6th March 2014, 03:49
I had read somewhere that there were in the area of 26 local HAARP type devices in the process of being made. Ie, 26 smaller facilities, local to each given metropolitan area. All over the world.
That the three in discussion may be only 3 of approximately 30. Not that the 26 proposed units were all built. IIRC, even the middle east was getting into the game?
I knew there were a LOT, and possibly some sites we don't know about yet,
but many "new readers" etc. don't know about that, so I guess HAARP means two things to me, lol:
the site in Gakona
and the practice in general of using the devices
Bad Slang :)
Anyhow, what do you think about McMurdo station, anything remotely Haarplike there?
Also Bobd what do you know about Plasma Antennas, i.e. devices that exist only while in use, in order to avoid prolonged radar signature?
:) i think the Chinese were working on Plasma Antennas, right?
the "Next Haarp" i.e. more control! *shudder*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_antenna
A plasma antenna is a type of radio antenna currently in development in which plasma is used instead of the metal elements of a traditional antenna.[1] A plasma antenna can be used for both transmission and reception.[2] Although plasma antennas have only become practical in recent years, the idea is not new; a patent for an antenna using the concept was granted to J Hettinger in 1919.[3]
Early practical examples of the technology used discharge tubes to contain the plasma and are referred to as ionized gas plasma antennas. Ionized gas plasma antennas can be turned on and off and are good for stealth and resistance to electronic warfare and cyber attacks. Ionized gas plasma antennas can be nested such that the higher frequency plasma antennas are placed inside lower frequency plasma antennas. Higher frequency ionized gas plasma antenna arrays can transmit and receive through lower frequency ionized gas plasma antenna arrays. This means that the ionized gas plasma antennas can be co-located and ionized gas plasma antenna arrays can be stacked. Ionized gas plasma antennas can eliminate or reduce co-site interference. Smart ionized gas plasma antennas use plasma physics to shape and steer the antenna beams without the need of phased arrays. Satellite signals can be steered and/or focused in the reflective or refractive modes using banks of plasma tubes making unique ionized gas satellite plasma antennas. The thermal noise of ionized gas plasma antennas is less than in the corresponding metal antennas at the higher frequencies.[1] Solid state plasma antennas (also known as plasma silicon antennas) with steerable directional functionality that can be manufactured using standard silicon chip fabrication techniques are now also in development.[4] Plasma silicon antennas are candidates for use in WiGig (the planned enhancement to Wi-Fi), and have other potential applications, for example in reducing the cost of vehicle-mounted radar collision avoidance systems.[4]
Nested arrays, steerable arrays, stealth arrays
Maybe HAARP got OLD! :(
I had read somewhere that there were in the area of 26 local HAARP type devices in the process of being made. Ie, 26 smaller facilities, local to each given metropolitan area. All over the world.
That the three in discussion may be only 3 of approximately 30. Not that the 26 proposed units were all built. IIRC, even the middle east was getting into the game?
It seems like there is a minimum power level required to do anything. When multiple frequencies stimulate the same spot, if the electron non-linearity effect mixing can be had, then the new frequencies will occur. Generally in any mixing situation the final end power level is much less than the transmitter frequencies, in other words, there are losses. And in any heating effect losses are massive.
IF they cannot direct WHERE the effect end result happens, which is the point of the whole discussion, then the whole planet would be whacked. If that is the case I don't know. I assume if some country thinks it can hold the world ransom, that it would generate planetwide mind control waves from ionospheric cross mixing subharmonics, well gee. They would whack themselves, and no tin foil hat is going to protect themselves or their troops. Now if they intend to live underground for some years while the ionosphere calms down, maybe that is the scenario - the crystal ball doesn't work that well.. Ionospheric heaters are SLOPPY when they are causing the ionosphere to ring with ULF/ELF.
I would think rogue states would need to understand they are not immune to any thing they create.
Post Edit - that's about all I am gonna say on the topic. HAARP US is not the problem, as this thread was about the US Haarp station causing earthquakes which I feel is ludicrous. There isn't enough power to do such. As far as mind control goes, ionospheric heating technology, plasma antennas to couple more power still would result in a sloppy unstearable system that would whack the operator. The Norway system used to create ULF/ELF would be planetary suicide. I don't believe they would do that.
What is more likely and has been mentioned way too many times, is the MICROWAVE beaming from satellites, or small microwave weapons is a likely candidate for mind control, or body-heart cessation systems. HAARP focus is disinformation, moving people away from the microwave weapons. THOSE are the worries IMO, not ionosphere haarps..
Ellisa
6th March 2014, 03:55
Bobd-- that is very interesting information, especially regarding the Norway contribution to HAARP, and it is very easy to understand. Do you know anything about the Pine Gap (West Australia) contribution ? I ask because PG is supposed to be a submarine communication relay station, which recently was suggested, quite openly, to be a HAARP installation. Sort of a repeater station. No one has much idea about Pine Gap, it is very secret! and a long way from anywhere else. The news item disappeared very quickly, and it was stated that there was no weather modification in operation in Australia.
ghostrider
6th March 2014, 03:58
Haarp was never shut down , it went into a management change over that's all ... I can't see the U.S. doing that , Russia has the same technology , they would target D.C. for sure ...we would see weather war like never before ... or the Russians could get China to do it and blame the U.S. , somebody is definitely stirring the pot , the dog is wagging ...dangerous times we live in ...
Mini Flash
6th March 2014, 04:03
All these war stories are not acceptable!
Say no to hate
Before it's too late
No shooting bullets to your brain
I won't play this game
I love you I love you I love you
No matter how much blood you spill
I will still love you
When you're finished with your thrill
I will put my hand out for you
Open your eyes, put down that gun
Save these slavics
Save the world from panic
Love love love
Bobd-- that is very interesting information, especially regarding the Norway contribution to HAARP, and it is very easy to understand. Do you know anything about the Pine Gap (West Australia) contribution ? I ask because PG is supposed to be a submarine communication relay station, which recently was suggested, quite openly, to be a HAARP installation. Sort of a repeater station. No one has much idea about Pine Gap, it is very secret! and a long way from anywhere else. The news item disappeared very quickly, and it was stated that there was no weather modification in operation in Australia.
I haven't followed Pine Gap, but Jackovsek has a good thread up on it. My feeling too is with the NSA listening ability at Pine Gap, such should be re-visited as far as new work. HAARP is about heating, not mind control. Please see the forum thread on Counter-Measures about doing something about microwave assaults. That may be useful..
sigma6
6th March 2014, 04:32
Whoever did was a bunch of scum of the earth manipulative cowards... with desperation written all over their foreheads...
So I say it was the Jesuit/Cabal... When was the last time there was an earthquake in Crimea???
What are the odds... the timing and the motive...
Finally someone has called it out into the mainstream... hahaha!!!
Yet another cat out of the bag...
doodah
6th March 2014, 06:29
Hi Bobd, thanks for all this info. However... last I read about it, I thought the University of Alaska was the institution that had pulled out of funding the HAARP array at Gakona.
But DARPA has budgeted monies for use of that array, as far as I recall. I don't know about you, but anything that DARPA has its hand in gives me the willies.
Sidney
6th March 2014, 06:44
the shut down was a dis info ploy.
this information is huge imo. HUGE
and I would not be one bit surprise if this was a HAARPQUAKE. This really is worrisome. Are we gearing up for a major war?
sheme
6th March 2014, 14:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsPDjEc0wt8
According to this 8 minute video Ukraine has it's own HAARP, (5.18 mins) perhaps this is why the Bear protests so much.
This American say's he can detect HAARP activity on his Radio tuner thingy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JexcsRuB5Ew
We should be realistic America could have started this whole thing- It has the capability.
Sidney
6th March 2014, 15:21
Or russia did it so than can put a spin on and blame the US. Its so twisted. How to keep up with it all.
Ahnung-quay
6th March 2014, 15:43
Strange, the emsc-csem.org website doesn't list an earthquake for Crimea on 3/01/14 at around 20:43 hours as the linked article states, unless I am missing it. They do, however, list eight shocks in the Crimea region between 3.2-4.5 magnitude on 3/02/14 between 03:34:27.1 and 03:34:57.7. Is this more before the fact news feeding or was the event removed from the list?
http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/seismologist.php?view=12
Ahnung-quay
6th March 2014, 15:49
Oh yes, I also forgot to take in the time zone difference! Sorry! Questioning everything leads to this, LOL!
Agape
6th March 2014, 16:33
It was reported here already :
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69029-Article-claims-Russians-suspect-HAARP-caused-recent-earthquake-in-Crimea--Ukraine--region
;)
Hi DooDah - the points about earthquakes and ionospheric heaters evoking them are ludicrous. What is happening is the programming people have received that the big bad haarp can do so many things has mis-directed attention from actual MICROWAVE mind control weapons, primarily developed through DARPA, and the mis-direction moved people away from paying any attention to the Russian versions of the EMP-mind bombs (able to scramble minds with a high voltage spike that the nervous system absorbs when the device goes off).
Getting people to spin with HAARP nonsense is fascinating to watch. I ROFL all the time I hear/read that haarp did this or that, showing how misinformation can program people into a frantic belief system trying to explain why they feel odd things. Microwave weapons though do such dastardly things as messing with the mind, nervous system and body's natural rhythms. Thing is solar storms can do it too, when microwave weapons are not. People can't tell the difference and it is so much like the witch trials of Salem, misinformation used to its fullest while the real agenda was happening with the ruling clique using the people's ignorance to their advantage.
Sad but true.
Hi Bobd, thanks for all this info. However... last I read about it, I thought the University of Alaska was the institution that had pulled out of funding the HAARP array at Gakona.
But DARPA has budgeted monies for use of that array, as far as I recall. I don't know about you, but anything that DARPA has its hand in gives me the willies.
POST EDIT - i should point out, there ARE actual earthquake inducing weapons systems, highly directed and able to be evoked at-a-distance, and it is not HAARP that does it, nor ionospheric heaters.. (that will be in a new thread at some point, stay tuned..)
Nick Matkin
28th March 2014, 11:19
Just noticed this tread.
1) Plasma antennas: The link to the Wikipedia entry looks pretty scary if you're not familiar with antennas. Plasma antennas have some advantages as described, and have been around for many decades, but they are no doomsday device. Have a look here (http://www.antentop.org/004/plasma.htm)for a design - absolutely terrifying. If we're supposed to be scared of these things, I must have missed the reason why. ("Plasma-discharge illumination" has a similar scary sound until one realises it's referring to neon tubes and strip-lights!)
2) HAARP - again! As bobd says, accusing HAARP of causing earthquakes is silly. How much energy would be required to do that? What is also frequently overlooked is the network of serious amateur enthusiasts/scientists who constantly monitor the earth's ionosphere and magnetosphere. Using extremely sensitive equipment they also monitor ELF and VLF signals, both natural and man-made. If HAARP had the properties attributed to it (weather modification, missile defence, mind control, etc.), the amateur scientists' monitoring equipment would be completely saturated every time HAARP was operated, especially if these facilities are dotted all over the globe. They would soon pick up any nefarious goings on. (Most of the so-called HAARP facilities shown of Youtube are nothing more than MF/HF transmitting sites.)
Just ask the radio hams that live in Alaska if HAARP wipes out their communications - if anyone would notice it, they would.
Nick
Here is a PLASMA ANTENNA - note how bright it is - the plasma tube antenna is just an equivalent "neon sign" tube, nothing there. One's bathroom fluorescent light can be modulated with RF and it would then become a PLASMA ANTENNA.. which was the point of using those devices for a different type of wireless LAN system for instance..
http://www.antentop.org/004/files/antenna.gif
Here is a simple analogy comparing the Russian facility compared to Haarp brightness compared to the Norway facility brightness (brighter equals more power)
http://chanlo.com/images/compare-brightness.jpg
This is the equivalent comparison of a Plasma antenna's brightness - compare that to the images above...
http://www.wavebreakmedia.com/products/images/319660-2.jpg
I had read somewhere that there were in the area of 26 local HAARP type devices in the process of being made. Ie, 26 smaller facilities, local to each given metropolitan area. All over the world.
That the three in discussion may be only 3 of approximately 30. Not that the 26 proposed units were all built. IIRC, even the middle east was getting into the game?
I knew there were a LOT, and possibly some sites we don't know about yet,
but many "new readers" etc. don't know about that, so I guess HAARP means two things to me, lol:
the site in Gakona
and the practice in general of using the devices
Bad Slang :)
Anyhow, what do you think about McMurdo station, anything remotely Haarplike there?
Also Bobd what do you know about Plasma Antennas, i.e. devices that exist only while in use, in order to avoid prolonged radar signature?
:) i think the Chinese were working on Plasma Antennas, right?
the "Next Haarp" i.e. more control! *shudder*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_antenna
A plasma antenna is a type of radio antenna currently in development in which plasma is used instead of the metal elements of a traditional antenna.[1] A plasma antenna can be used for both transmission and reception.[2] Although plasma antennas have only become practical in recent years, the idea is not new; a patent for an antenna using the concept was granted to J Hettinger in 1919.[3]
Early practical examples of the technology used discharge tubes to contain the plasma and are referred to as ionized gas plasma antennas. Ionized gas plasma antennas can be turned on and off and are good for stealth and resistance to electronic warfare and cyber attacks. Ionized gas plasma antennas can be nested such that the higher frequency plasma antennas are placed inside lower frequency plasma antennas. Higher frequency ionized gas plasma antenna arrays can transmit and receive through lower frequency ionized gas plasma antenna arrays. This means that the ionized gas plasma antennas can be co-located and ionized gas plasma antenna arrays can be stacked. Ionized gas plasma antennas can eliminate or reduce co-site interference. Smart ionized gas plasma antennas use plasma physics to shape and steer the antenna beams without the need of phased arrays. Satellite signals can be steered and/or focused in the reflective or refractive modes using banks of plasma tubes making unique ionized gas satellite plasma antennas. The thermal noise of ionized gas plasma antennas is less than in the corresponding metal antennas at the higher frequencies.[1] Solid state plasma antennas (also known as plasma silicon antennas) with steerable directional functionality that can be manufactured using standard silicon chip fabrication techniques are now also in development.[4] Plasma silicon antennas are candidates for use in WiGig (the planned enhancement to Wi-Fi), and have other potential applications, for example in reducing the cost of vehicle-mounted radar collision avoidance systems.[4]
Nested arrays, steerable arrays, stealth arrays
Maybe HAARP got OLD! :(
Sidney
16th May 2014, 16:53
Is it a coincidence that HAARP announces the dismantling after all this finger pointing?
Is it a coincidence that HAARP announces the dismantling after all this finger pointing?
Yup no question it's a coincidence :)
Fellow Aspirant
17th May 2014, 04:44
So, if Norway is building such a mysterious monster of an ionospheric "heater", would anyone care to speculate on the possible involvement of the spectacular "Norway Spiral(s)" awhile back?
Were those things ever satisfactorily explained away? Could there be other facilities ready to tie into the new array's energy deployment? A spiral, after all, is a pretty good way to focus energy, whether one is dealing with the infinitesimally tiny (a subatomic particle), the human-sized (a bullet) or even the scale of a planet (electro-magnetic lines of force).
What say you, Avalonians?
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