Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[onawah]

What Really Happened to Flight MH370?
Project Unity
36.6K subscribers
Premiered Nov 11, 2023

"Guest: Ashton Forbes, IT Consultant & US Government Contractor with a Top-Secret Clearance.
Host:
Jay Anderson, Founder & Host of Project Unity "

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[mountain_jim]

I invested some time watching the above video and rereading the posts on this page, and my intuition is that this is significant and includes more data points along the path of secret tech disclosure/awakening, whether powers-that-be intended or not.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1725939882357301456?s=20

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clif reposted
Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
Long read: This is potentially the most significant leak of military technology in history.

There is video evidence from 2014 that the US military is in possession of technology that most would describe as Alien. Objects that fly with some sort of gravity propulsion with unbelievable speed and maneuverability, shielded by a vacuum layer that can potentially penetrate anything.

These advanced objects seem to be able to create portals that can make a Boing 777 airliner disappear in an instant. This evidence has been out there for a decade but it took
@JustXAshton and his investigation to attract wider attention.

Many of you have seen the TicTac UFO videos filmed by US Navy jets in 2004. The 2014 evidence seems to suggest that this technology has been in the possession of the US military for a long time. The evidence is compelling because it was filmed from 3 different surveillance platforms simultaneously: 2 US spy satellites and 1 US military drone.

The leaked videos when combined create a problem for debunkers because the physics match up from different angles. It would take a gigantic effort to fake something like this.

This could be the most significant leak of military technology in history. Surely the US Govt will attempt to discredit it. But it’s now in the public domain and a crowd investigation is taking place.

The implications are enormous. If this technology is real it renders the nuclear deterrence of non-US nations meaningless. These objects can travel faster than any missile and create portals that can make any plane, missile, submarine or satellite disappear.

What makes this discovery so controversial is that this technology was allegedly used to make flight MH370 disappear. A tragedy that is surrounded by many conspiracy theories. How does a passenger plane vanish without a trace?

Please watch this video. I’m following developments closely. Several attempts were made to debunk the video evidence but none of them were credible. https://youtube.com/watch?v=AwaC4AXFqRI

You guys should take a look at this:
@JoeRogan,
@ElonMusk,
@lexfridman

[Carlitos]

BUMP - yes, Ashton Forbes's analysis is very very good... this cannot be ignored. Kim pushing this on X will make some waves.. let's see

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[mountain_jim]

now for the other side of the discussion - just read this so not watched yet

https://x.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1726742989744332945?s=20

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Ashton Forbes has been going viral with his claims of video evidence (supposedly) proving some sort of UFO took down the MH370 plane

Apparently Ashton did a podcast with a graphics expert that debunked his claims, causing Ashton to get upset

I will be awaiting this "debunk" podcast to see if and how Ashton's MH370 claims were exposed



https://x.com/divulgacionfull/status/1726815870721360175?s=20

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[noprophet]

This is a very good video regarding magnetic monopole moment and the spheres we've been seeing since 9/11 -- that recently resurfaced with this 'three sphere' video going around.
DrHO--FixLI

[mountain_jim]

Substack link discussing above, with the other videos included, and comments

https://remoteview.substack.com/p/mh370-historical-videos-from-2014

MH370 - Historical videos from 2014 are raising new questions, are they real? If so, does it show
Application of Fractal Toroidal Moment ?

BOB GREENYER

< more at link >

and another link from that link

https://thegalacticage.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-mh370-could-change?utm_medium=email&utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email

The Truth About MH370 Could Change the World
If real, leaked videos reveal secret advanced technology (and a massive cover-up)

CAROLYN BROUILLARD
OCT 20, 2023

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This article will be refined and expanded as I learn more. Note that it is not intended to be exhaustive—it is a brief summary of the research and the introduction of a theory based on my initial interpretation of key evidence. What follows is largely made possible through the diligent efforts of citizen journalist Ashton Forbes to gather and analyze the data. I encourage anyone interested in this topic to follow him for ongoing updates as we march toward the truth. I also welcome comments, questions, and alternative theories that advance the conversation.

Finally, this article is not meant to be disrespectful to families of the missing and those affected by this event. My goal is to honor them by uncovering the truth so that their ordeal was not in vain. We don’t get answers to questions we don’t ask.


The mystery of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has captivated the world for almost a decade. Thanks to renewed interest by committed truth-seekers, we may be close to understanding what really happened to that plane. If what follows is even partly true, we may be on the verge of a disclosure of truly epic proportions. What is revealed through this investigation has the potential to change the world.

Based on a review of the available evidence, it is possible that the disappearance of MH370 was not an accident. The plane did not crash.

From the official safety report, we see ample opportunity for events to take place undetected by the regional air traffic control agencies. But that doesn’t mean no one saw. The leaked videos, if real, prove that US agents were watching as the plane disappeared out of thin air. Then they covered up what they saw.

The potential implications are staggering and profound in what they reveal. They expose the depth of the secrets, lies, and deceit, but also the hope of a brighter future through technology that can change the world. MH370 may be the proof that we are not alone and reality is not as we assumed it to be.

The Official Safety Report

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Startling Implications

A plane goes missing in the most fantastical way at a time when apparently no one except for US satellites and a US drone are watching. We are fed a story that the plane flew on autopilot to its demise in the South Indian Ocean. Despite our satellite, seismic, and underwater monitoring capabilities, as well as an exhaustive multi-year search for the wreckage, no conclusive proof of a crash is presented. Several pieces of debris wash up years later that they say belong to the missing flight but that is not the same as finding the plane. Debris can be planted, it can be faked, or it can be the product of some disintegration during a teleportation event. Debris is not definitive proof of a plane crash.

Regardless of what theory is right on why this happened, the implication is that this is a massive cover-up of epic proportions.

It exposes the extent of surveillance capabilities at a global scale, meaning nothing is really hidden. It demonstrates the willingness and capacity of a small group of smart and savvy people to pull off an incredible deception, hiding and manipulating the truth. It reveals the existence of world-changing technology with far-reaching applications that has been kept secret for private use.

Not least of all, it suggests the direct or indirect assistance of non-human intelligences who possess highly advanced technologies. It begs the questions: where and who did this technology come from? By what means did we acquire it? Who has access to it? How is it being used? Have we already achieved free energy and interplanetary travel? What other technologies are world governments holding in secret? Can we trust anything the government says?

MH370 represents revelation at an unfathomable scale. In finding the truth of MH370, we potentially uncover the lies that have ruled our world and ignite the promise of a better future.



< more at link >

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1727543520456798227?s=20

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Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
·
Nov 22
Did you know that the US Govt has 24/7 high resolution video from any location on earth? They can select any date, time and location and see in fine detail what happened, even at night. It’s as if Google earth would allow you to jump to any point in time.
From
Ashton Forbes

[onawah]

MALAYSIA AIRLINES FLIGHT 370 CAPTURED BY UNKNOWN FORCES
November 22, 2023
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-captured-by-unknown-forces/

"The most-watched video of 2014 on ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net was this video, posted by longtime YouTuber, DAHBOO7 the day after Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared, in which he runs the radar playback of the moments leading up to the plane’s disappearance.
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The playback showed a mystery object that did not behave like a commercial airliner, which he termed a “UFO”, because it was unidentified.

Nine years later, Ashton Forbes and his group on X.com claim to have solved the mystery of what happened to Flight 370, with the help of leaked US satellite and drone footage, Chinese satellite images and by consulting with numerous witnesses and experts.

The upshot of what Forbes believes happened is that there was a lithium ion battery explosion on the plane that caused a major fire – and for the Captain to turn the plane around and descend to a lower altitude to allow his passengers to breathe after cabin de-pressurization. Then, he believes a secret US Navy teleportation technology was directed at the airliner.

So, when I hear “US Navy” and “teleportation” in the same breath, it sounds to me like the latest iteration of the Philadelphia Experiment/Montauk Project,
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/nikola-tesla-the-secrets-of-the-philadelphia-experiment-2016/
...a topic with which I became so obsessed more than two decades ago that I wrote a whole book about it. https://www.amazon.com/Philadelphia-Experiment-Murder-Parallel-Universes/dp/096318895X/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

In the course of my investigation of these urban legends, I was introduced to a man in his late eighties who had a very similar “Philadelphia Experiment” story to tell but with significant divergences. His name was Bob Beckwith, Founder of the successful electrification systems engineering company, Beckwith Electric. https://beckwithelectric.com/

Bob was an electronics wunderkind who at 23, invented a telemetry protocol that enabled the power generated by the Hanford nuclear plant in Washington State to travel further than ever in order to supply the Manhattan Project in Los Alamos, New Mexico. The US Navy commandeered Bob for the war effort, where they had him working on experimental sonar projects, to help with the problem of German mines being laid off the East Coast of the US and which were blowing merchant ships out of the water.

Bob always maintained to me that the urban legend’s version of the Philadelphia Experiment story, about the US Navy’s need for “radar invisibility” was bogus. He said radar invisibility was not the pressing problem that needed to be solved at the time. He said it was sonar invisibility from motion-sensitive German mines that was needed.

Starting in the summer of 1943, Bob says he worked on the USS Martha’s Vineyard, an experimental minesweeper in Block Island Sound. Bob was a civilian but there were, of course enlisted sailors aboard, who would share “scuttlebutt” with him about a previous experiment that had been conducted on that ship. (He reminded me that the National Security Act hadn’t been passed yet).

Bob said the sailors told him of a previous experiment on the ship, during which they looked out of the windows and recognized the Philadelphia shipyards, where they’d been docked 2 weeks previously and about how everyone was panicking and how one (not several) unfortunate sailor found himself merged with the ship’s steelwork, near the bottom of a doorway. His body had been cut out and the rest sanded down and painted over. Bob describes being taken by the sailors to the spot, where he could see the fresh coat of paint over the “splash cowling beneath the sliding doors.”

So, here’s why I’m bringing up the story of Bob Beckwith:
In his own self-published book, ‘Hypotheses’, https://books.google.com/books/about/Hypotheses.html?id=uyccAAAACAAJ
...Bob expounded on his theory about “Divided Space”. He theorized that “bubbles” of Divided Space could be created and separated from what he called “Universal Space” by applying three counter-rotating EM fields of enough force.

He explained this is what enables UFOs to take 90º and 45º turns at thousands of Gs without breaking up; because these craft possess technology that generates a field of Divided Space around them.

So, it’s very interesting to me that the leaked footage seen in this Greg Reese video shows three small objects revolving around the fuselage of the airliner before they all disappear in an endothermic blip with no heat signature –
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-370-a-new-theory-emerges/
...or what Ashton Forbes suggests is a “phase transition” of the plane, “where it is, in our minds obtaining the properties of quantum and able to speed off at potentially light speed or greater, faster than the frame rate can even catch it.”

Bob told me that by the late ’90s, the US Navy had developed this technology to the point where the entire Osprey Class
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osprey-class_minehunter
...of minesweepers had teleportation capabilities and that these ships could literally blip themselves to anywhere on the planet that their captains wanted to go and that they could also place the ships one second ahead of Universal Space/Time while cruising and thereby go unseen. He said he’d taken a tour of one of these minesweepers and there didn’t seem to be any secret about these capabilities among the crew.

Bob wrote another short book called ‘Levitation, Teleportation and Time Travel’.

https://www.scribd.com/document/46473635/Beckwith-Robert-Levitation-Teleportation-and-Time-Travel

Both Bob and the contents of this book are referenced in a 15-page document https://imgur.com/a/ggIFTfQ
...that Richard Dolan called “The UFO leak of the century”
https://richarddolanmembers.com/articles/article-ufo-leak-of-the-century-richard-dolan-analyzes-the-admiral-wilson-leak/
...which was entered into the public record during the May 17th 2022 Open House Intelligence Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Subcommittee hearing on UFOs (“UAPs”).
https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=1197

Among many other things, the document confirms the existence of an “MJ-12-like cabal”, the 1947 UFO crash at Roswell, alien bodies and an ultra secret UFO crash retrieval and back-engineering program operating completely outside of government oversight and which was still active as of 2002.
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by Greg Reese
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-captured
(Rumble video embedded at the end of this post)

"Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared on March 8th 2014. On May 19, about nine weeks later, a leaked video was published to YouTube by a third party who claimed to have received it on March 12th. The video shows what appears to be a jet airliner on fire being trailed by three spiraling orbs. Eventually, the three orbs change to a vertical pattern and disappear in a flash with the airliner, leaving a dead-end trail of smoke in the sky. A month later on June 12th, a second video was published to the same channel that showed the exact same event taken from a different viewpoint. These videos have been deleted from YouTube but can still be found on archive-dot-org.

Ashton Forbes and his team have been researching these videos extensively, and have provided exhaustive evidence that these videos are legitimate. Including digital forensics verified by CGI professionals, eyewitnesses, and government data, Forbes and his team have successfully addressed all de-bunker claims and have listed them for all to see on X-dot-com @JustXAshton. So far, nobody has been able to de-bunk this research.

Their research shows that the first leaked video was taken from a pair of American signals intelligence satellites known as USA-229. Twin satellites capable of creating 3D stereoscopic images by capturing two slightly different views. The twin USA-229 satellites are logged at the exact location, time, and apparent angle required to of captured this video. This event occurred at around two-thirty in the morning, it was completely dark, the wavelengths captured by these cameras are for detail, and the stereoscopic effect allows for added depth perception.

The source of the second video has been identified as an MQ-1C Gray Eagle unmanned combat drone with Infrared and thermal technology. This video focuses on the heat signature.

And the man responsible for leaking these videos seems to be Lt. Cmdr. Edward Lin. He was accused of being a spy, but court transcripts prove that this was just spin. The details of his crimes, including the time they happened, are redacted, but it came out in the trial that the classified information in question was published on the internet. And Lt. Cmdr. Edward Lin had full security clearance to the same technology used to capture these videos.

Using Inmarsat satellite ping data and military radar to track its path, and eyewitness testimony to verify it, Forbes put together the final flight path of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370:

On March 7th at 16:42 UTC Flight 370 takes off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport. At 17:21 the plane abruptly turns back towards the nearest airport in Penang. A witness on an oil rig reported that the plane was on fire. Several witnesses along the East Coast reported hearing a loud bang and seeing a glow coming from the plane as it passed overhead. At 17:52 the co-pilot’s mobile phone pings the local tower. At 18:40 an eyewitness on a boat reported that the plane was glowing orange and appeared on fire. The Inmarsat ping data shows the same sharp left turn that we see in the videos, and then abruptly goes to zero as the plane disappears.

The CCP released Chinese satellite images that appear to be three orbs. They first claimed it was debris, and later said that releasing the image was a mistake. According to Chinese media, nineteen families have signed a statement claiming they made calls that connected to missing passengers after the disappearance but without an answer.

Some people are saying this was alien UFOs saving a plane from crashing. But this doesn’t explain the fact that three different advanced US military surveillance cameras captured this one event. Twenty-three of the passengers on board were related to Freescale Semi-Conductors, a field leading the development of super-conductor technology, which is what this appears to be. Some type of superconductor targeting system for teleportation. Which is reminiscent of what the NAZIs were doing with their highly classified Die Glocke project.

Luminous objects like this were first reported in May of 1940 as Germany invaded Belgium. And by 1942 several people reported seeing them in the skies over Germany. American pilots during World War Two called them, Foo Fighters.

And let’s not forget Gary Mckinnon, who in 2002 was accused of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time”, and who claimed to have seen evidence of an advanced off-world military fleet."

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[mountain_jim]

^ very nice encapsulation of the current story in less than 6 minutes of video.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1730632493550760429?s=20

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Ashton Forbes
@JustXAshton
**MH370x Morning Update**

Yes, I will be on Alex Jones today at 2pm EST, live. We are going to spread the evidence of this actual conspiracy to millions of people.

People have expressed reservations about going on his show, but as I've repeatedly stated, this movement isn't about division, it's about seeking unity. It's about reaching as many open minded people as we can.

We don't base our opinions on what others tell us to think. We set the narratives, not them.

When the mainstream media comes to vilify us, we'll be ready.

Thank you to the person who sent me this picture of a sign they're holding up on the Today Show. It brought me to tears to think about large this movement has grown and how determined the supporters are.

We will get the truth.

This is MH370x.

-Ashton

#MH370x #MH370

Watch the broadcast today at - http://madmaxworld.tv/alex



https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1730639133024878643?s=20

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https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1730642096472695005?s=20

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[Bluegreen]

Rex Bear interview w/ Ashton Forbes, Nov 28 2023. UFO footage right at the beginning.

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[onawah]

Was Reproduced Alien Tech Behind The Disappearance Of MH370?
Kim Iversen
540K subscribers

Dec 1, 2023

"March 8, 2014, Malaysia Air flight 370 carrying 239 passengers and crew members, flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared. The disappearance of this flight is now one of the greatest aviation mysteries of all time.
Ashton Forbes is the Organizer of MH370x, a community led, crowd sourced investigation group dedicated to solving the mystery of MH370 and the science behind what Ashton says is advanced technology that was deployed on the plane. Ashton is a government contractor with a security clearance, unrelated to anomalous phenomenon. He says he’s not bound by any NDA’s and everything he reveals is publicly available information. Many have tried to debunk him, he joins us today."

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[wegge]

This is a very good video regarding magnetic monopole moment and the spheres we've been seeing since 9/11 -- that recently resurfaced with this 'three sphere' video going around.
DrHO--FixLI

this was such a good video, thank you!

[mountain_jim]

I first learned of this Ashton Forbes effort from a post from Clif High - as I reposted here, and he is now re-tweeting regularly in this area, including those I added yesterday, so he is following this.

He also shared these

https://x.com/clif_high/status/1730775332964417567?s=20

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https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1730734214746698192?s=20

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Ashton Forbes
@JustXAshton
**MH370x Community Notes Disinformation Update**

As reported yesterday, @CommunityNotes is being abused by bad faith actors to add factually incorrect, subjective opinions onto my content that users with large followings are sharing.

Contrary to the false statement by community notes added in KimDotcom's post, the system is being abused as described in a private DM to me from one community note contributor. Once a note has been issued it is extremely difficult to remove.

As a statement of fact, these videos have not been 'debunked.' I will be the first person to tell you when the 'hoaxer' comes forward with the source files to accept the $145,000 bounty.

We have refuted every debunk attempt to date. Opinions should never be allowed in community notes. The accounts posting these false community notes should have their privileges revoked. This is disinformation consistent with fake 'fact checks.' I expect X Corp to be better than this.

@elonmusk@x@lindayaX@ChuckCallesto


-Ashton



https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1730752792589988051?s=20

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[Bill Ryan]

I have a question for anyone reading this who has a reasonable knowledge of physics. (I would count myself as one of those, maybe.)

To me, Ashton Forbes is talking quasi-scientific gobbledygook. It's almost pure nonsense, lots of long words strung together that make little sense in the actual world of theoretical physics. He's a healthcare IT specialist, not a physicist. But to many people (and many interviewers) his explanations might sound impressive.

I don't know whether or not this event happened as is being claimed, but I confess I do find Ashton Forbes VERY hard to listen to.

Am I being a little too unkind here? :flower:

[wegge]

I have a question for anyone reading this who has a reasonable knowledge of physics. (I would count myself as one of those, maybe.)

To me, Ashton Forbes is talking quasi-scientific gobbledygook. It's almost pure nonsense, lots of long words strung together that make little sense in the actual world of theoretical physics. He's a healthcare IT specialist, not a physicist. But to many people (and many interviewers) his explanations might sound impressive.

I don't know whether or not this event happened as is being claimed, but I confess I do find Ashton Forbes VERY hard to listen to.

Am I being a little too unkind here? :flower:

assuming the videos are real, are you aware of any physics that do properly explain it?

[Bill Ryan]

I have a question for anyone reading this who has a reasonable knowledge of physics. (I would count myself as one of those, maybe.)

To me, Ashton Forbes is talking quasi-scientific gobbledygook. It's almost pure nonsense, lots of long words strung together that make little sense in the actual world of theoretical physics. He's a healthcare IT specialist, not a physicist. But to many people (and many interviewers) his explanations might sound impressive.

I don't know whether or not this event happened as is being claimed, but I confess I do find Ashton Forbes VERY hard to listen to.

Am I being a little too unkind here? :flower:

assuming the videos are real, are you aware of any physics that do properly explain it?No, not at all. (But there are other reported phenomena I'm aware of, and which I firmly believe to be real, that I certainly can't explain in known physical terms either. One example is Henry Deacon's 'Corridor' experience (the 'wormhole' through which he traveled a number of times to Mars), and Jerry Wills' experience at the Stargate of Aramu Muru. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10612-The-Stargate-of-Aramu-Muru-in-Peru) There are many more!

My point above (or question) was really that what Ashton Forbes presents doesn't explain it either, and as best I understand he's not even using the terminology of physics correctly or in any way that actually makes sense. As far as I'm able to see, he's just stringing long words together that are likely sound impressive to most people.

He'd be better off — in my opinion — simply saying that he has no idea how this was made to work, and he'd prefer to leave it to a PhD theoretical physicist to make a guess at what might possibly have happened.

I'm not saying that this wasn't a real event. It might have been, though it's definitely hard to believe! I'm really just sharing my purely personal experience that I find Ashton Forbes rather difficult to listen to.

[onawah]

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic", as Arthur C. Clarke once quipped.
Perhaps no one who is an expert in the field wants to touch this controversial, woo wooo subject, and Forbes took it on by default.
As there doesn't appear to be any normal scientific explanation for the disappearance, I don't find his reasoning to be objectionable.
(I don't think it's necessary to be considered an "expert" to be well informed enough for one's opinion to matter.)
That flash of light when the plane disappears look phony to me, but the blame for that can't be laid at Forbes' door.
Everything else appears legitimate, and the fact that no trace of the plane has ever been found makes it all the more inexplicable, so I give him credit for trying.

[onawah]

The difference in this case is that it's not just hearsay, there is clear evidence, though the explanation is inconclusive.
What physicist would risk explaining what those three orbs were, or what caused them and the plane to disappear suddenly without a trace?
Ridicule would surely result from any attempt.



. (But there are other reported phenomena I'm aware of, and which I firmly believe to be real, that I certainly can't explain in known physical terms either. One example is Henry Deacon's 'Corridor' experience (the 'wormhole' through which he traveled a number of times to Mars), and Jerry Wills' experience at the Stargate of Aramu Muru. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10612-The-Stargate-of-Aramu-Muru-in-Peru) There are many more!

He'd be better off — in my opinion — simply saying that he has no idea how this was made to work, and he'd prefer to leave it to a PhD theoretical physicist to make a guess at what might possibly have happened.

[The Moss Trooper]

I have a question for anyone reading this who has a reasonable knowledge of physics. (I would count myself as one of those, maybe.)

To me, Ashton Forbes is talking quasi-scientific gobbledygook. It's almost pure nonsense, lots of long words strung together that make little sense in the actual world of theoretical physics. He's a healthcare IT specialist, not a physicist. But to many people (and many interviewers) his explanations might sound impressive.

I don't know whether or not this event happened as is being claimed, but I confess I do find Ashton Forbes VERY hard to listen to.

Am I being a little too unkind here? :flower:

assuming the videos are real, are you aware of any physics that do properly explain it?No, not at all. (But there are other reported phenomena I'm aware of, and which I firmly believe to be real, that I certainly can't explain in known physical terms either. One example is Henry Deacon's 'Corridor' experience (the 'wormhole' through which he traveled a number of times to Mars), and Jerry Wills' experience at the Stargate of Aramu Muru. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10612-The-Stargate-of-Aramu-Muru-in-Peru) There are many more!

My point above (or question) was really that what Ashton Forbes presents doesn't explain it either, and as best I understand he's not even using the terminology of physics correctly or in any way that actually makes sense. As far as I'm able to see, he's just stringing long words together that are likely sound impressive to most people.

He'd be better off — in my opinion — simply saying that he has no idea how this was made to work, and he'd prefer to leave it to a PhD theoretical physicist to make a guess at what might possibly have happened.

I'm not saying that this wasn't a real event. It might have been, though it's definitely hard to believe! I'm really just sharing my purely personal experience that I find Ashton Forbes rather difficult to listen to.


I've watched him over the course of about 6 weeks or so, and in my opinion (not professional), he has a really, really bad dose of the ol' UFO disease.......... For which, as far as I'm aware, there is no known cure.

The prognosis ain't good.

[onawah]

Debunking The Debunkers: Why Nothing Else Makes Sense With MH370
Kim Iversen
540K subscribers
Dec 2, 2023

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[Ernie Nemeth]

Alex Jones is talking to Ashton Forbes, about the Malaysia Flight that was never found. There are now satellite videos that captured the plane in its final moments.

Three orbs can be seen circling the plane.

Suddenly the orbs and the plane disappear in an endothermic burst of light - (zero thermal imprint).

It is bizarre.

Forbes believes it is not alien tech, but advanced human technology developed by the so-called 'breakaway civilization', mostly constituted by the American military known as the 'military industrial complex'.

Thus the inability of the Pentagon to 'find' trillions of dollars in public money, over the years.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I was wondering where I know the name from.

Is this the same person who claims the covid vax was developed from king cobra venom?

[onawah]

Not even remotely connected, Ernie. Dr. Bryan Ardis is the one you are thinking of.
There's nothing amateur about Ardis.
See:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118325-DR.-BRIAN-ARDIS-Possibility-of-venom-toxin-origin-of-covid-Treatments-and-antidotes-also-discussed.&p=1579850&viewfull=1#post1579850


I was wondering where I know the name from.

Is this the same person who claims the covid vax was developed from king cobra venom?

[Journeyman]

I have a question for anyone reading this who has a reasonable knowledge of physics. (I would count myself as one of those, maybe.)

To me, Ashton Forbes is talking quasi-scientific gobbledygook. It's almost pure nonsense, lots of long words strung together that make little sense in the actual world of theoretical physics. He's a healthcare IT specialist, not a physicist. But to many people (and many interviewers) his explanations might sound impressive.

I don't know whether or not this event happened as is being claimed, but I confess I do find Ashton Forbes VERY hard to listen to.

Am I being a little too unkind here? :flower:

I think Forbes is just the latest front man for an operation that's been underway for a considerable time. The patents filed by the US Navy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113429-The-U.S.-Navy-Files-Patents-For-What-Can-Only-Be-Described-As-UFO-s&p=1399329&highlight=pais#post1399329) under the name of the possibly fictional Salvator Pais (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1397145&viewfull=1#post1397145)laid the theoretical groundwork.

[onawah]

Then Forbes was a very odd choice for spokesperson.
One would think, if that is the case, "they" would have found someone with more credentials at the very least...in order to be more convincing and less controversial.
Although in this case, imho, it kind of serves to make him more convincing since he doesn't appear to have any professional credibility to protect.




I think Forbes is just the latest front man for an operation that's been underway for a considerable time. The patents filed by the US Navy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113429-The-U.S.-Navy-Files-Patents-For-What-Can-Only-Be-Described-As-UFO-s&p=1399329&highlight=pais#post1399329) under the name of the possibly fictional Salvator Pais (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1397145&viewfull=1#post1397145)laid the theoretical groundwork.

[Johnnycomelately]

I'm not saying that this wasn't a real event. It might have been, though it's definitely hard to believe! I'm really just sharing my purely personal experience that I find Ashton Forbes rather difficult to listen to.

I believe that the talky-talk you reference begins near 15:00/38:52. I, too, know physics enough to know he is just a salesman.

Personally, I have given zero credence to this ‘evidence’. It looks like a graphics studies project.

At about 24:30, the host asks why this is splitting the UFO community, and he says the nay sayers could be invested such that disinformation would protect their interests. Curious, the various topics this guy speaks on.

Earlier (20:+?), IMO he framed a motive for this to be a fake: so the CCP would be cowed. But, oh to be a fly on the wall of their (CCP) IT powwow on this.

If that motive were true, and acted upon, then he might be a shill for the DOD. Otherwise, to me, he’s just an internet hustler. And I don’t care either way.

[onawah]

Still no explanation for the disappearance, however, with no traces found anywhere...

[wegge]

I have a question for anyone reading this who has a reasonable knowledge of physics. (I would count myself as one of those, maybe.)

To me, Ashton Forbes is talking quasi-scientific gobbledygook. It's almost pure nonsense, lots of long words strung together that make little sense in the actual world of theoretical physics. He's a healthcare IT specialist, not a physicist. But to many people (and many interviewers) his explanations might sound impressive.

I don't know whether or not this event happened as is being claimed, but I confess I do find Ashton Forbes VERY hard to listen to.

Am I being a little too unkind here? :flower:

I think Forbes is just the latest front man for an operation that's been underway for a considerable time. The patents filed by the US Navy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113429-The-U.S.-Navy-Files-Patents-For-What-Can-Only-Be-Described-As-UFO-s&p=1399329&highlight=pais#post1399329) under the name of the possibly fictional Salvator Pais (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1397145&viewfull=1#post1397145)laid the theoretical groundwork.

funny that the two of them, Forbes and Pais, are in an interview together!

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although I found Pais harder to listen to, compared to Bob Greenyer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrHO--FixLI&t=3s) (posted before in this thread) or let's say Dan Winter.

Speaking of Dan Winter, he says he can explain the making of Stargates (and many other far out phenomena) from an electrical engineering point of view:

hint, it's a deep dive into implosion science, whose maybe most prominent representative was Viktor Schauberger.

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[Bill Ryan]

I will be awaiting this "debunk" podcast to see if and how Ashton's MH370 claims were exposedIt might be this one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwh6Oa-N_04

[Bill Ryan]

For anyone who prefers NOT to sit through a 3 hour interview (or several of them!), here's a respectful and interesting 12 minute summary by Dom Burgess, an experienced motion graphics designer, of the issues (or otherwise) with the purported videos. It was published just a few hours ago.

In brief: Burgess recreates one of the videos in an hour and a half (the plane flying above clouds), and becomes certain that the much debated 'implosion' frame from the 'thermal image' video did come from existing stock footage of an explosion. But he also states that there's much about the entire affair that's more than highly weird... which is true. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0q-pF0E2w

[wegge]

For anyone who prefers NOT to sit through a 3 hour interview (or several of them!), here's a respectful and interesting 12 minute summary by Dom Burgess, an experienced motion graphics designer, of the issues (or otherwise) with the purported videos. It was published just a few hours ago.

In brief: Burgess recreates one of the videos in an hour and a half (the plane flying above clouds), and becomes certain that the much debated 'implosion' frame from the 'thermal image' video did come from existing stock footage of an explosion. But he also states that there's much about the entire affair that's more than highly weird... which is true. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0q-pF0E2w

Bob Greenyer explains in his video (posted several times in this thread) that he could have faked the actual videos about 20 years ago (him having had a graphic-design company), but for someone to fake them exactly that way they'd still need to have an understanding of the underlying physics (which he says exist, no matter if the videos themselves are faked or not).

[Journeyman]

Then Forbes was a very odd choice for spokesperson.
One would think, if that is the case, "they" would have found someone with more credentials at the very least...in order to be more convincing and less controversial.
Although in this case, imho, it kind of serves to make him more convincing since he doesn't appear to have any professional credibility to protect.




I think Forbes is just the latest front man for an operation that's been underway for a considerable time. The patents filed by the US Navy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113429-The-U.S.-Navy-Files-Patents-For-What-Can-Only-Be-Described-As-UFO-s&p=1399329&highlight=pais#post1399329) under the name of the possibly fictional Salvator Pais (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1397145&viewfull=1#post1397145)laid the theoretical groundwork.

I don't think the intention is to be more convincing and certainly not less controversial. I think this sort of stuff is what you get when a fourth generation world war is underway and one f the aims is to sow as much confusion as possible and poison the information well in the process. Smoke and mirrors.

[Satori]

I can’t help but conclude that there is something major about this event. The smoke and mirrors, dog and pony show does not go on for so long and at this level unless we are not supposed to know the truth of the matter.

[onawah]

Possibly in preparation for the fake "UFO invasion" psyops they've been planning for so long.
Has there been any logical explanation about where the crashed plane might have ended up?
It seems unlikely that even a psyop retrieval would have gone unnoticed.


I can’t help but conclude that there is something major about this event. The smoke and mirrors, dog and pony show does not go on for so long and at this level unless we are not supposed to know the truth of the matter.

[Bill Ryan]

Another interesting update. It seems we have a slam-dunk here. This short (18-minute) video below, posted yesterday, is from the guy who took the photo of the clouds, for a professional stock photo website, that were used as the non-moving background of the first faked video. (And I do think we now have to agree that it was faked. :flower:)

I have to say, it was an impressive piece of dedicated research that led to this. Someone spent hours (or days!) searching through thousands of cloud photos on the internet until they found the one that matched, then did more research to find the original 2012 photographer.

Then this poor guy (who posted the video below) suddenly found himself with an avalanche of messages asking him to comment. :) He'd not heard a thing about all this, and so had to familiarize himself with it quite quickly. In the video he shows exactly how his own cloud photo was used.

Comparing my 2012 stock images to the MH370 UFO video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5BNiduJwnM

[Tintin]

Another interesting update. It seems we have a slam-dunk here. This short (18-minute) video below, posted yesterday, is from the guy who took the photo of the clouds, for a professional stock photo website, that were used as the non-moving background of the first faked video. (And I do think we now have to agree that it was faked. :flower:)

I have to say, it was an impressive piece of dedicated research that led to this. Someone spent hours (or days!) searching through thousands of cloud photos on the internet until they found the one that matched, then did more research to find the original 2012 photographer.

Then this poor guy (who posted the video below) suddenly found himself with an avalanche of messages asking him to comment. :) He'd not heard a thing about all this, and so had to familiarize himself with it quite quickly. In the video he shows exactly how his own cloud photo was used.

Comparing my 2012 stock images to the MH370 UFO video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5BNiduJwnM

Well, what can one say :) 100% a fabricated video! This guy's really good. I'm still kind of gobsmacked that anyone anywhere could have alerted him to that, at all, but given that they'd likely also use that same site, work in graphics, and had an interest in the MH370 story then it's always a possibility.

Great detective work here :muscle:

[PiXelSHift]

Clif posted this yesterday - maybe one video is same as first one in seehas post above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1572358&viewfull=1#post1572358), but with a lot more context?

https://x.com/clif_high/status/1716214477824340359?s=20

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text (more embedded links at link I think)

Ashton Forbes
@JustXAshton
**MH370x Breaking Update**

My Letter to Congress

Dear Congress,

My name is Ashton Forbes and I am currently disclosing the most important videos in the history of the world. All of this information is publicly available. I would like to state that I have a Top Secret US Government clearance as part of my job as a contractor. My job has nothing to do with advanced technology, I am only stating this to establish my credibility. I am not bound by an NDA. This is not a hoax, disinformation, or misinformation. You don't need to believe me because everything is verifiable.

I am requesting a public hearing. I am willing to testify in front of congress as to the authenticity of these videos and explain every aspect of them. I would also invite physics experts to validate the science on display.

The videos in question are that of the true fate of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, on March 7th, 2014 at 18:40UTC at the Nicobar Islands. One is of an MQ-1C Gray Eagle with a thermal layer added by the leaker, and the other is a 3D battlespace produced by the SBIRS (Space Based Infrared System), via SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) using data from Spy Satellite USA-229 which has a sister satellite next to it classified as debris. This allows for the proven 3D stereoscopic imagery we see in the Satellite video.

The oldest archived versions of the videos we could find come from "RegicideAnon" a UFO video uploader, who uploaded unrelated videos previously, indicating they are not the source. Higher quality versions were released by other UFO uploaders on youtube later on, indicating neither is the original source. The dates are damning.

Satellite Video (Received: March 12, 2014, Uploaded May 19, 2014) - http://web.archive.org/web/20170606182854/https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Ok1A1fSzxY
MQ-1C Gray Eagle (Received: June 5, 2014, Uploaded June 13, 2014) - https://web.archive.org/web/20140827060121/https://youtube.com/watch?v=ShapuD290K0

So why now, many ask? Because only in 2023 do we have the basis to understand these videos to be real. We needed the 2017 DoD Navy UAP videos to understand what FLIR footage looks like, the 2019 Trump satellite leak to understand those capabilities, 2020 scientific papers that show 'wormholes' are humanely traversable, LK-99 that shows the emergence of superconductivity and finally AI in daily use as ChatGPT. Without all these things the MH370 videos seem like magic.

We know the location of the videos because the investigative group I started, MH370x, satellite experts used amateur historical trajectories to identify the correct satellite in the correct position to take the 3D stereoscopic video we see. We can see six sets of coordinates in the satellite video which we had incorrectly thought were in the South Indian Ocean, until we were able to realize the only possible location was the Nicobar Islands because the plane is turning left in both videos and due to the coordinate shifts. This means the plane is turning south and to the east. The satellite and witness (Katherine Tee) indicate the time is 18:40UTC, March 7th, 2014.

Proof the Satellite video is 3D Stereoscopic - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1707570147030913368?s=20
SBIRS - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1712531791175889222?s=20
USA-229, the smoking gun - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1700261207054168393?s=20
The Witness - https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1698852365292482867

I have been investigating and writing about these videos as a Citizen Journalist for the past 10 weeks. My X Corp (Twitter) following has gone from 30 followers to 8500+ of multidisciplinary backgrounds from the strength of the evidence alone. My handle is
@JustXAshton
. We have definitively proved every aspect of the videos to be authentic. We know the assets, the time, the location, we have a witness, we know that there was a fire on the plane likely from the lithium ion batteries which broke containment, causing the Halon gas to permeate throughout the plane.

Lithium Ion Battery Fire - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1711446372384125007?s=20

There was no debris field, which is impossible for a 777 crashing into the ocean. The small amounts of debris found are consistent with the fire scenario, and some debris had burn marks. A fire suppression device from a B777 washed up in the Maldives and was not investigated despite having visible serial numbers. The Maldives were intentionally excluded from the search, despite witnesses on one of the small islands seeing the plane flying low and identifying the red/blue stripe of Malaysian Airlines early in the morning on March 8, 2014.

All the Witnesses - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1712889656239390876?s=20

We know that the 'official' narratives are a lie to cover up that this technology was deployed to either save the plane, or as espionage to prevent the 20 Freescale Semiconductor scientists onboard from going to China. I suspect they are integral to the technology we see.

We know the plane didn't crash into the ocean because the SOSUS system didn't hear the acoustic sound. The same system that heard the Titan sub pop and the Navy lied about it for 5 days while oxygen counters were on every major news channel. The Diego Garcia hydrophones and Western Australia hydrophones also didn't hear it.

Missing Hydrophone Data - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1710290236910014908?s=20

I wish that this being MH370 was the most important part of these videos, because ultimately I'm doing this for the families of the victims, the witnesses, the leaker of these videos, and the world that has been lied to. However, the most important part of these videos is that they prove conclusively that the US Government is hiding Superconductivity, Teleportation, and 'Free Energy' from the world. Everything we see in these videos can be explained by science.

This is not 'aliens' in these videos. This is our technology. The assets are filming the plane before the orbs even show up. The drone cannot catch a 777-200, it must have intercepted it. This is a US Government operation. I do not believe that we could be this secretly advanced without a reverse engineering program. The orbs in this video are ignoring gravity, being pulled forward by some 'gravity engine' indicated by the dark lines in front of them, and upon intercept are traveling at estimated Mach3 speeds. The explanation for their pattern is artificial intelligence, a computer program.

Superconductive Harmonic Orbs - https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1701733663510020440
Traversable Wormholes - https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1701401496804278537

The videos do not show annihilation because E=MC^2 and the 'zap' would be much larger. It's not an explosion because it's cold in the thermal, not hot. It's a black hole. It's also not 'cloaking' because the smoke stops when the plane disappears. It has to be teleportation based on science. A wormhole. I found out, to my own surprise, that humanely traversable wormholes are theoretically possible. This singularity is causing a transitional phase state change in the plane where it reverts to a wave function and obtains a probabilistic nature. This is only possible with superconductivity and ‘free energy’ technology.

Macroscopic Decoherence (how the plane was teleported) - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1714019464948101533?s=20

I was also able to identify the leaker of the videos as being Lieutenant Commander Edward C. Lin. He checks every box to be the leaker. Our Government attempted to put him in prison for life as a traitor, but he is no spy. Edward C. Lin is a hero. He took a plea deal after he was convinced he damaged national security, but he never revealed this information to our enemies. He simply wanted to do the right thing and tell the world the truth of this technology and what happened to MH370. He was sentenced to 9 years in prison and likely is bound by his plea deal to never speak about the videos again. We can vindicate this man as well as everyone else who was lied to or discredited.

Evidence that the leaker is Edward C. Lin - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1710707813154988247?s=20

I also got a tip from a source that told me that the nephew of Retired General Joseph F. Dunford has seen the videos and indirectly confirmed their authenticity. He was likely in charge of the operation as the commander of the International Security Assistance Force in 2014. He then served as the 19th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nation’s highest-ranking military officer, and the principal military advisor to the President, Secretary of Defense, and National Security Council from Oct. 1, 2015, through Sept. 30, 2019. He is now on the board of directors at Lockheed Martin.

While the destination of the plane is speculative, the most likely place is Diego Garcia. The witnesses in the Maldives indicate that, as well as the American passenger Phillip Wood EXIF data photo, that points to Diego Garica where he claimed to be held prisoner.

I'm not sure what happened to the passengers. It is scientifically possible that some survived. None of the families of the victims have reached out to me. I am operating under the assumption that they were returned to their various countries in exchange for their silence, and Phillip Wood may be in Witness Protection.

Phillip Wood EXIF photo is not 'fake' - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1706761097053688291?s=20

I know the videos seem impossible, but they are authentic. They are not CGI. We were able to show that the satellite video is a Citrix session logged into the actual spy satellite database due to the framerate discrepancy between the mouse we see, and the background. (24fps vs 6fps) Also, hundreds of community VFX experts have analyzed the footage frame by frame and not a single discrepancy can be found. The list of requirements to ‘hoax’ the videos is practically impossible.

What it would take to 'hoax' the MH370 videos - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1709977802416550239?s=20

It's not CGI (see replies) - https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1692191076835094844?s=20

These videos implicate the US Government in a black budget reverse engineering program alla whistleblower David Grusch's sworn testimony to congress. This information will shock you and I hope you will seek to expose the truth. This surpasses petty politics. Please help for the good of the country.

This is a verifiable conspiracy, and while I believe that it is being done because the forces that be think that society will collapse if this technology is made publicly available, I disagree. We can handle this information and the technology has the capability to change the circumstances of millions if not billions of people. What matters in this world is the time we spend in it, with the people we care about. That will not change.

The reason I am requesting a public congressional hearing is because I believe the weight of the evidence can convince enough people in congress that the true events of MH370 were covered up by our own government and that there is a black budget advanced technology program, most likely based on reversed engineered Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP).

Sincerely,

-Ashton Forbes

#MH370x #MH370

This is the summary posted by Anon Official, of the Ashton Forbes info (the info you posted).
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And also an entirely different sort of explanation by a remote-viewer / seer (Jay Arae Essex) who corroborates the (scenario of the) footage.
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[norman]

I don't know if this guy's story has ever come up here before. He's Boyd Anderson.

The story he tells sounds true to me, but it's a different story from the fantastic stuff that's going around.

This recording is the original recording with clarification inserts chopped in. I found that confusing until I clicked what was happening.

Right on Radio - 540 - Malaysian Air MH370 and the Philosophers Stone. Occult disappears plane (https://podbay.fm/p/right-on-radio/e/1704412800)
1 hour 27 minutes - Posted Jan 5, 2024


SHOW NOTES
Guest Boyd Anderson, a professional hockey player who scored 5 goals in 3 min .07 seconds ended up in the room with the people planning the disappearance of Malaysian Flight 370. Patents, Gold and the grand deception for the New World Order.

[wegge]

I don't know if this guy's story has ever come up here before. He's Boyd Anderson.

The story he tells sounds true to me, but it's a different story from the fantastic stuff that's going around.

This recording is the original recording with clarification inserts chopped in. I found that confusing until I clicked what was happening.

Right on Radio - 540 - Malaysian Air MH370 and the Philosophers Stone. Occult disappears plane (https://podbay.fm/p/right-on-radio/e/1704412800)
1 hour 27 minutes - Posted Jan 5, 2024


SHOW NOTES
Guest Boyd Anderson, a professional hockey player who scored 5 goals in 3 min .07 seconds ended up in the room with the people planning the disappearance of Malaysian Flight 370. Patents, Gold and the grand deception for the New World Order.

Philosopher's stone, compared to portal, might be a bit toned down in "intensity of fantasy", but not much :dancing:

[Bill Ryan]

Folks, the videos that Ashton Forbes has been widely promoting were hoaxes created by persons unknown. Do read up the thread a short way.

The slam-dunk was the guy (Jonas De Ro) who showed that his own 2012 stock footage of cloud formations was clearly used to create one of the videos of the plane 'disappearing'. Here's the post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1589992&viewfull=1#post1589992) again:


~~~

Another interesting update. It seems we have a slam-dunk here. This short (18-minute) video below, posted yesterday, is from the guy who took the photo of the clouds, for a professional stock photo website, that were used as the non-moving background of the first faked video. (And I do think we now have to agree that it was faked. :flower:)

I have to say, it was an impressive piece of dedicated research that led to this. Someone spent hours (or days!) searching through thousands of cloud photos on the internet until they found the one that matched, then did more research to find the original 2012 photographer.

Then this poor guy (who posted the video below) suddenly found himself with an avalanche of messages asking him to comment. :) He'd not heard a thing about all this, and so had to familiarize himself with it quite quickly. In the video he shows exactly how his own cloud photo was used.

Comparing my 2012 stock images to the MH370 UFO video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5BNiduJwnM

[TargeT]

Well.... I wonder why this is resurfacing now, interesting video just for the bit about the company involved and who purchased it but that was probably just correlation(?).
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Pretty wild story they tried to push given the last few posts on this thread.

Seems like this year is full of fun distractions

[ExomatrixTV]

A NEW Trace! The FULL MH370 Story...So Far:

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Mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, aiming to persuade authorities to resume the search and provide closure to families.
The pilots, Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah and First Officer Fariq Abdul Hamid, had varying levels of experience.
The flight departed Kuala Lumpur International Airport with 239 passengers and crew on board.
The departure appeared normal, but subtle anomalies, like the captain's redundant altitude report, hint at potential irregularities.
The aircraft's last routine communication occurred minutes before it vanished, sparking a baffling mystery.
At 22:54, there was an hour and 17 minutes of silence from the aircraft's satcom, indicating potential events in the cockpit.
Communication lapses occurred as Flight 370 transitioned between Malaysian and Vietnamese airspace.
The aircraft's transponder was manually switched off after passing the gari point, indicating intentional interference with the flight's trajectory.
The aircraft's trajectory was carefully planned to avoid detection, including maneuvers near Thai airspace.
The sudden reactivation of the satcom system at 02:25:27 indicates a power interruption and subsequent manual restoration of power, suggesting deliberate actions by someone on board.
Inmarsat data analysis revealed seven handshakes, suggesting the aircraft flew for over seven hours, possibly until fuel exhaustion.
The potential final route of Flight 370 includes a turn toward the southern Indian Ocean, supported by analysis from experienced pilots.
There's speculation regarding the possibility of more physical evidence indicating the aircraft's final location, raising questions about the perpetrator's intentions.
Whisper protocol, developed for radio transmissions, analyzed to potentially track MH370 using scattered signals.
Whisper database, originally designed for radio amateurs, repurposed by Richard Godfrey to track MH370 using signal anomalies.
Godfrey's team analyzed Whisper data, claiming to find MH370 traces, aligning with existing radar info and Inmarsat handshakes.
Whisper data indicates aircraft's track, aligning with predicted waypoints, suggesting deliberate navigation to avoid detection.
Whisper data implies aircraft slowed down at intervals, possibly indicating step climbs, and showed deviations from RAR radar.
Aircraft possibly flew a figure-eight pattern towards end of flight, suggesting deliberate action to avoid detection.
Inmarsat data indicates steep descent during last log-on, with speculation on possible engine shutdown to maximize fuel usage.
Whisper data suggests possible last position of MH370 before no further correlated anomalies were found.
Debris found along Eastern Africa and islands likely from MH370, indicating it crashed in the ocean, leading to improvements in aviation safety.

[ExomatrixTV]

Missing MH370 Mystery: New Search For Wreckage Confirmed:

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A U.S.-based company says it is launching a new, extensive search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 a decade after it first went missing. NewsNation's Ross Coulthart digs into the prevailing theories of what happened to the flight, including whether the pilot intentionally downed the craft or if it was shot down.

Ross is joined by Larry Vance, a former Canadian transportation investigator and author of, “MH370: Mystery Solved,” and French journalist Florence de Changy, author of, “The Disappearing Act: The Impossible Case of MH370.”


00:00:00 American company pledges new search for missing MH370 plane
00:09:12 Transportation Investigator: Pilot intentionally downed missing MH370
00:39:52 French Journalist: Did U.S. Air Force shoot down MH370?

[Vangelo]

Redacted News: "The Truth about Flight MH370: Decoding a Decade of Deception
source... Redacted News (https://rumble.com/v4paq53-the-truth-about-flight-mh370-decoding-a-decade-of-deception-redacted-with-c.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Redacted%20News)

"What really happened to Malaysian Airlines fight MH370?
10 years ago... Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared from radar on 8 March 2014, while flying from Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia to its intended destination in Beijing. But It never arrived and neither did the 227 passengers and 12 crew members whose family members have been in anguish ever since. What happened to their loved ones? Who's covering up the real story?

10 years have now passed and we finally might have some leads as to what caused this disappearance. Ashton Forbes has in many ways devoted his life to figuring out what happened here and we decided to invite Ashton on to talk about some of this new evidence. "
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[noprophet]

Just an FYI, the clouds are not static and those cloud images were the only images not present in the websites torrent archive.
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In addition, the mountain image from that stock photo was found -- without clouds however.. ahem

this is just bonus:
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These things "make nuclear weapons look like firecrackers" (in the words of Joseph P Farrell)
What do you think they wouldn't do to keep the lid on? (I realize I'm preaching to the choir, or so I would hope.)

// Also, all that being said, I've been of the opinion that the final 'blip' at the end is a watermark. In the same vein as making typos on confidential documents.

File this under 'High-Octane Speculation' - but it should be included as well:
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[onawah]

Ashton Forbes/The Real Story of MH370 - Espionage

The Real Story of MH370 - Espionage/Ashton Forbes
@JustXAshton
3/16/24
https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1769107624757219645?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1779291307204030910%7Ctwgr% 5E9f0ea992ddd6e5b9bc29e9f9e2e47b3f0ca6a058%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fprojectavalon.net%2Fforum4%2Fshowthread.php%3F1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth

( Just as well, if this is true, that the technology was secured so as to stay out of China's hands, since when the CCP tries to copy tech, it inevitably screws it up and this tech is dangerous enough already judging from the description of it.)

"I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious."
-Albert Einstein

I'm Ashton Forbes and I've been a citizen journalist investigating the Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 disappearance for seven months. The group I started, MH370x, has dug up every piece of evidence, press conferences, and interviews going back ten years. I've spoken to the original investigators in addition to scientists and engineers, some of which work for the military or as contractors for the Department of Defense. I would measure my knowledge of the case against anyone.

The official story of MH370 is that no one knows what happened to the plane, but planes don't disappear in 2014. To find the truth, we had to take a fresh look at all the evidence and only reject satellite pings after 18:40UTC. This is logical as we didn't find anything in the location the pings indicated, and the debris that washed up in Africa is not consistent with a crash in that location. The following story is supported by more evidence than any other story to date.

"I write this because I want the world to know that most of the trouble on Earth are created for political reasons."
- A Letter to Ashton Forbes

An early theory was hijacking, but no one took credit for the missing plane. The scenario was too sophisticated for a simple hijack in a post 9/11 world. Instead, it was state sponsored espionage. This also explains how a cover story was developed.

Espionage narrows down the possibilities to three major players: Russia, China, or the United States. Russia doesn't have the capability and would have been exposed by Western Governments. China had no motive as most of the passengers were Chinese Nationals and they hacked the Malaysian Government the next day on March 9th to try and find answers, stealing crisis meeting minute notes and classified information about MH370.

It was the United States that took the plane. There's no chance they wouldn't have tracked a rogue 777 in a post 9/11 world. We found out about SBIRS and SOSUS surveillance systems. The bases Diego Garcia and Pine Gap have the most sophisticated radar systems in the world and would have been in range. The United States has the capability and the means to cover it up, while selling a phony story to the entire world's media.

"Who's your Daddy?"

This operation was a message to China. An operation like this would require planning, and could not be pulled off in just an hour or two. The SATCOM only pinged one satellite despite being in range of two, which prevented accurate location detection. Two fake passengers were using stolen passports and changed their appearances with an implausible story of flying to Beijing to get to Amsterdam. The plane went dark at a weak point between radars. These factors all point towards espionage.

Lithium ion batteries are dangerous and there was 487lbs of them which managed to miss two security screenings that day and two unsafe pallets were placed in the forward cargo bay near the electronics bay. This was no accident. The United States used the fire event to divert the plane from the South China Sea to the rendezvous point.

The plane can be seen zig zagging on flight tracker right before it goes dark indicating the pilot panicking due to the fire. Mike McKay sees the plane on fire for a few seconds from an oil rig before the automatic fire suppression devices deploy and temporarily put it out. Fisherman in a boat seeing the plane flying low ten minutes later, consistent with what the pilot would do to provide oxygen for the passengers in a fire scenario. Kate Tee saw plane within minutes of the MH370 videos, flying low, descending, and glowing orange with dark smoke coming out the back of it near the Nicobar Islands.

MH370 didn't lose communications because another 777 pilot hears them ten minutes later. The Minister of Defense admitted they knew the plane wasn't hostile which is only possible with communication. China Times reported an intercepted Mayday at "2:43am" of the plane disintegrating and attempting an emergency landing. The Malaysian Government hid the communications from the families and public.

The Defectors

Many had correctly speculated the 20 Freescale Semiconductor engineers as being the motive. The company was tied to US Aerospace and Defense. They were named nine times in a National Security Agency report from 2005 on commercial emergence of room temperature superconductive microchips. Microchips like this are used in quantum computers and other advanced technology.

Eight of the Freescale employees were Chinese Nationals and defecting with the intellectual property related to the technology used on the plane. Whoever controls the technology in the MH370 videos has military supremacy of the planet.

Twenty employees were sitting next to each other and some even had their entire families with them. The company put out a statement that these were important people, and this many people on one plane should have triggered a company policy preventing it.

China watched the plane get phased out with their own satellites and showed the world on March 13th. They released three images which look like orbs around an object. This was not debris and you can see the cumulus clouds in the images. These satellite images were a message back to the United States - you win.

Collateral Damage

It's unlikely that all the passengers survived the fire, depressurization, and macroscopic phase conjugation events. The goal would have been to retain the intellectual property from the engineers. The rest of the survivors would have had to been silenced either through coercion or by force.

The French father who lost his wife and two children, Ghyslain Wattrelos, knows the plane didn't crash. He was told by an intelligence source that the Americans know exactly what happened to the plane and had two AWACS (spy radar planes) in the area.

The nephew of the pilot was told, "I am very sorry for your uncle, they are collateral damage." This statement only makes sense if the event was espionage.

The White House was calling Malaysia every day not because they cared about Phillip Wood, the only adult American on the plane, but because they needed to set a narrative and do damage control. This is why Malaysia's response seemed ignorant when in reality it was deceptive.

Diego Garcia

The plane likely ended up at Diego Garcia, which is one of the only places to hide a plane of this size. A B777 fire suppression device washed up in the Maldives weeks later, which meant that it had to be empty. 20 islanders on Kuda Huvadhoo saw the plane flying low and heading South towards the miliary base. The Maldives device and witnesses were discredited and intentionally excluded from the search.

Lastly, a message and black picture by Phillip Wood appeared on 4chan a week after the plane went missing claiming he was being held prisoner. The EXIF data had coordinates indicating Diego Garcia.

The Hero

United States assets were in the area because the Cobra Gold and Cope Tiger exercises were going on between Thailand, Singapore, and the United States. Cope Tiger's theme that year was 'Search and Rescue.'

Lieutenant Commander Edward C. Lin was recently assigned to the VPU-2 Wizards secret spy plane squadron February 2014 and began being investigated on April 2nd, 2014 based on a quote from his lawyer. He was likely on one of those AWACS Ghyslain Wattrelos was told about. His job would have been relying information to upper command. They may also have been remote controlling the plane.

The United States Government charged Lin with Espionage, a potential life sentence, but later on had to admit there was no evidence he exchanged any information with anyone from China. This charge is consistent with the United States having conducted an espionage mission against China and fearing that Lin was a spy who leaked the videos to them. Instead, he just wanted the world to know truth, which is why he removed sensitive information while leaving the coordinates that would prove the conspiracy. Telemetry data that was not publicly available when the video was published on youtube.

Lin's lawyers argued the classified information in question was available on the internet and he was caught with flight manifests that included search and rescue code names. His appeal has penal codes consistent with the classified information potentially being video evidence. Even after he took a plea bargain, his sentence was overly harsh, getting 9 years for dissemination of classified information. Military members had to testify as to why what Lin did was so damaging to the United States.

Lin may have leaked the MH370 videos to his Taiwanese contacts which then allowed them to reach the internet, at which point they could no longer be hidden. The letter to me used broken English consistent with a non-native speaker from Asia and Taiwan is an ally of the United States against China.

"We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us"

To summarize, the United States planned an operation as a message to China who was attempting to steal intellectual property related to advanced technology. They set the batteries to burn at a specific point and divert the plane to the location where they would phase it out using the very technology China was hoping to gain. The plane was 'teleported' to an unknown location and then flown to Diego Garcia.

The U.S. rigged the SATCOM and falsified fake evidence to convince the world the plane flew into the South Indian Ocean where we never found anything. The only reason this plan was exposed is because of Edward C. Lin, who made the sacrifice to show the world absolute proof, and went to prison over it.

The world is not black and white, it is shades of gray. The United States has technology that would change our entire civilization. A covert elite are covering it up for their own reasons.

If you want to expose the truth, talk about the MH370 videos. And don't stop talking.

-Ashton Forbes "

[onawah]

Dutchsinse is talking LIVE now about scalar technology, youtuber "In2ThinAir" and "Ashton" by whom I think he means Ashton Forbes, with lots of other whistleblower info about his own role in disclosing scalar tech and how he has been and is currently being attacked for doing so.
See:

Livestream Earthquake Live Stream -- Past 48 hours of activity up to current
dutchsinse
661K subscribers
Started streaming 5 hours ago/ Still Live Now as of 9:27 pm CST 5/23/24

(I just started listening, but what Dutch begins with in this video is uncovering a big government coverup, disseminating disinfo about what scalar tech really is, accusing Dutch of disinfo.
Info which he actually sourced from Lt. Col.Thomas Bearden's original disclosure about HAARP highfrequency pulses (weather modification).
Which Dutch provided video proof of in his videos, for which he has been attacked and discredited by the military and "professionals".
This also ties in with "Into Thin Air" and Ashton Forbe, who Dutch thinks are also being used.
This probably won't last long on youtube;I will ask to have it added to the Avalon library.)

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[wegge]

https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1793748576213848467 (how do we embed these tweets again?)

"Mike Harris, former consultant for Motorola when Freescale Semiconductors broke off from them in 2004. Without being asked, offers his opinion on what happened to MH370.

"Somehow, somebody opened an interdimensional portal and that plane went through it."

"It will be found again. It fell in a hole."

Interviewed by Kerry! :clapping:

A follow up comment from Asthon Forbes' Twitter:

"The interview actually happened on March 13th, 2014. Five days after the plane disappeared.

Mike Harris was told to shut up after this by the CIA in the interest of national security;

It is also important to note that my interview with Mike Harris, radio talk show host and former contractor to top executives at Motorola when Freescale Semiconductor was part of it, was told to shut up, just after his interview with me. That interview has been very widely viewed. What is it Mike knows related to the history of Freescale that would be so important to the CIA would want to silence him, no doubt, in the interest of "national security"?"

[BMJ]

https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1793748576213848467 (how do we embed these tweets again?)

"Mike Harris, former consultant for Motorola when Freescale Semiconductors broke off from them in 2004. Without being asked, offers his opinion on what happened to MH370.

"Somehow, somebody opened an interdimensional portal and that plane went through it."

"It will be found again. It fell in a hole."

Interviewed by Kerry! :clapping:

A follow up comment from Asthon Forbes' Twitter:

"The interview actually happened on March 13th, 2014. Five days after the plane disappeared.

Mike Harris was told to shut up after this by the CIA in the interest of national security;

It is also important to note that my interview with Mike Harris, radio talk show host and former contractor to top executives at Motorola when Freescale Semiconductor was part of it, was told to shut up, just after his interview with me. That interview has been very widely viewed. What is it Mike knows related to the history of Freescale that would be so important to the CIA would want to silence him, no doubt, in the interest of "national security"?"

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[Rizotto]

Mind blown! Must watch!

In this video by "Redacted", Clayton Morris interviews Ashton Forbes about the disappearance of MH370. Forbes describes in detail his decade-long research into that mysterious and tragic incident. Topic includes USA counter espionage, top-secret anti-gravity technology operated by Lockheed Martin. In my humble opinion, Ashton Forbes looks and sounds genuine as he describes this incredible set of events and dark military operations with covert advanced technology.



"What really happened to Malaysian Airlines fight MH370? 10 years ago... Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared from radar on 8 March 2014, while flying from Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia to its intended destination in Beijing. But It never arrived and neither did the 227 passengers and 12 crew members whose family members have been in anguish ever since. What happened to their loved ones? Who's covering up the real story? 10 years have now passed and we finally might have some leads as to what caused this disappearance. Ashton Forbes has in many ways devoted his life to figuring out what happened here and we decided to invite Ashton on to talk about some of this new evidence."

MH370 Mystery Solved! The Shocking Evidence That Changes Everything We Were Told | Redacted News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79R77zt6JkU

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It is a good video, and well worth the listen, but Redacted need to tone down these click bait titles. Though lots of intriguing insight is presented, we're still very far from 'mystery solved'. And I'm still not completely convinced the drone footage of the plane disappearing is real.

[Bill Ryan]

It is a good video, and well worth the listen, but Redacted need to tone down these click bait titles. Though lots of intriguing insight is presented, we're still very far from 'mystery solved'. And I'm still not completely convinced the drone footage of the plane disappearing is real.No, it's not real.... it was 100% debunked back in December by the guy who posted that his own earlier stock footage of the very same clouds had been used in the (very clever) fake video, created by persons unknown.

That slam-dunk video is in post #1787 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1589992&viewfull=1#post1589992), but unfortunately it's now private — maybe because the guy who'd identified his own stock video of the clouds was being hassled by Ashton Forbes supporters.

If anyone can find this same video re-uploaded elsewhere (which I'd guess it may well have been), do please post it again here. It's quite important to put Ashton Forbes' claims to rest, which I'd gently suggest may be rather needed now.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I remember that, but the thing is, at the time that debunk evidence surfaced, Ashton Forbes himself came out (if I recall correctly) and admitted that yes, the footage was fake and he'd have to rethink his theory. Now he seems to be saying the footage is indeed real, and makes a case for that in his Redacted interview. No one likes a flip-flop, hence my luke warm reaction to the video.

[AutumnW]

Just curious here. I heard that parts of the plane were found along shorelines? Those parts were apparently authenticated. Has there been any follow up on that?

[Ewan]

Off-topic


No one likes a flip-flop, hence my luke warm reaction to the video.

If your previous position is proven to be innacurate and subsequent information convinces you of that, then to flip-flop is the correct response.
Far worse to ignore new information and be adamant about your earlier statements I would say.
However, in a mystery like this one I think the default position should be speculation alone without stating opinions one way of other.

:focus:

[meat suit]

It is a good video, and well worth the listen, but Redacted need to tone down these click bait titles. Though lots of intriguing insight is presented, we're still very far from 'mystery solved'. And I'm still not completely convinced the drone footage of the plane disappearing is real.No, it's not real.... it was 100% debunked back in December by the guy who posted that his own earlier stock footage of the very same clouds had been used in the (very clever) fake video, created by persons unknown.

That slam-dunk video is in post #1787 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1589992&viewfull=1#post1589992), but unfortunately it's now private — maybe because the guy who'd identified his own stock video of the clouds was being hassled by Ashton Forbes supporters.

If anyone can find this same video re-uploaded elsewhere (which I'd guess it may well have been), do please post it again here. It's quite important to put Ashton Forbes' claims to rest, which I'd gently suggest may be rather needed now.

Yes, I thought this was put to bed a long time ago because of the cloud stock footage.
However, maybe the cloud stock footage could have been created at a much later point from the Ashdon Forbes video ??

[Rizotto]

It is a good video, and well worth the listen, but Redacted need to tone down these click bait titles. Though lots of intriguing insight is presented, we're still very far from 'mystery solved'. And I'm still not completely convinced the drone footage of the plane disappearing is real.No, it's not real.... it was 100% debunked back in December by the guy who posted that his own earlier stock footage of the very same clouds had been used in the (very clever) fake video, created by persons unknown.

That slam-dunk video is in post #1787 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1589992&viewfull=1#post1589992), but unfortunately it's now private — maybe because the guy who'd identified his own stock video of the clouds was being hassled by Ashton Forbes supporters.

If anyone can find this same video re-uploaded elsewhere (which I'd guess it may well have been), do please post it again here. It's quite important to put Ashton Forbes' claims to rest, which I'd gently suggest may be rather needed now.

Thanks Bill, I knew nothing of this until I read your post. The question now, why would Ashton keep pushing this story? What's in it for him? Apparently he has devoted an incredible amount of time and research into this. If he's not just deluding himself, then he must be on some sort of payroll because no one has the time to do this research on their own dime.

There is the possibility of a deliberate disinfo campaign by the usual suspects, you know, the deep state and black budget operations. Ashton is now claiming that this USA black op is in possession of an extremely powerful new UFO-reversed-engineered technology, which could be very dangerous, and that UFO phenomenon these days are of USA origin. Who could benefit from such notions? Or is this just an obfuscation campaign? If so, why?

I also wonder about the 20 or so scientists that were on that flight, whom Ashton claims were in possession of the greatest scientific breakthrough regarding super-conductors... Did they really exist, or did Ashton made this up?

I would be most interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

If your previous position is proven to be innacurate and subsequent information convinces you of that, then to flip-flop is the correct response.


Agreed, and I've flip-flopped myself on many matters. But context in this case is important. Forbes's initial theory proceeded entirely on the strength of the footage. When that footage was outed as fake, his theory collapsed, and he duly disappeared from the interview/podcast circuit. Now he's back, because the footage is back (it's real and always was real). His explanation for this dramatic turnaround is not satisfactorily explained.

[Bill Ryan]

It is a good video, and well worth the listen, but Redacted need to tone down these click bait titles. Though lots of intriguing insight is presented, we're still very far from 'mystery solved'. And I'm still not completely convinced the drone footage of the plane disappearing is real.No, it's not real.... it was 100% debunked back in December by the guy who posted that his own earlier stock footage of the very same clouds had been used in the (very clever) fake video, created by persons unknown.

That slam-dunk video is in post #1787 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1589992&viewfull=1#post1589992), but unfortunately it's now private — maybe because the guy who'd identified his own stock video of the clouds was being hassled by Ashton Forbes supporters.

If anyone can find this same video re-uploaded elsewhere (which I'd guess it may well have been), do please post it again here. It's quite important to put Ashton Forbes' claims to rest, which I'd gently suggest may be rather needed now.

Yes, I thought this was put to bed a long time ago because of the cloud stock footage.
However, maybe the cloud stock footage could have been created at a much later point from the Ashdon Forbes video ??It's a shame his video is now private! (And I'd love to find it reu0loaded somewhere else.) But in it he proved with timestamped screenshots that his cloud stock footage was dated before even MH370 disappeared.

[noxon medem]

My greatest respect for the work Redacted has done and are doing on many important subjects.
In a world and time with so many rabbitholes and multiple layers of deceit, reality is hard to find.
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There are two videos of the alleged "zapping" of MH 370 out of this world into another dimension.
The cloud issue is beyond me for now, but will look into it.
Here is a video that alignes them up, and when clock counts down to ca 0:06 minute stop it.
Thats the point of "disappearance" from this reality. If one video is fake then both will be, right ?
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https://imgur.com/instead-of-muddying-waters-with-fake-ufo-videos-can-guys-please-try-to-debunk-this-very-realistic-video-of-airliner-being-teleported-zapped-by-3-ufos-multiple-angles-drone-satellite-p7NMOTX
( do not find way to embed this mp4 vid, grateful for help, or follow url : )

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This post concerns the nightvision/thermal one, and the "zap" moment effect.
Here is a Utube video from an old videogame called "Killing time (3DO)"
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Stop it at ca 0:23 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3MkkBHlkX8
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Here a comparison timed on videoeffect :
https://imgur.com/a/UM0qall
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It is the same from the alleged MH370 video, only inverted in colours.
A piece of material that weaken any claim, if based only from those videos.
That is the only point of this post, on a complex and mysterious case.
On such an important issue many diversions are possible ....
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Be well all
nm

[noxon medem]

I think the videos appeared early on Reddit, and here is a megathread on the subject from there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15p14tp/megathread_mh370_relevant_posts_regarding_mh370/?share_id=1BsRelfek-CjpPCKTmWZ3&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
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For those who enjoy some more digging ...
Anyway march 2014 is a very interesting time ..
( Ukraine anyone ? ) .

[John Hilton]

Resurrecting this discussion because everyone should watch this video:

MH370 Mystery Solved! The Shocking Evidence That Changes Everything We Were Told. Redacted News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79R77zt6JkU

[mountain_jim]

Resurrecting this discussion because everyone should watch this video:

MH370 Mystery Solved! The Shocking Evidence That Changes Everything We Were Told. Redacted News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79R77zt6JkU

This thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73055-Malaysian-Plane-MH17-shot-down-with-over-295-on-board.-But-by-who&highlight=Malaysian)is where any new info should go I think - 69 pages of discussion including many about Ashton Forbes and related videos.

And I did not watch this one so I don't know if there is new info here or not

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Above two posts moved to this thread, which mountain_jim points out is really the best place to post information on the mystery of Flight MH370.


Resurrecting this discussion because everyone should watch this video:

MH370 Mystery Solved! The Shocking Evidence That Changes Everything We Were Told. Redacted News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79R77zt6JkU

Already posted and discussed. See post #1802 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1632748&viewfull=1#post1632748)

[meat suit]

It is a good video, and well worth the listen, but Redacted need to tone down these click bait titles. Though lots of intriguing insight is presented, we're still very far from 'mystery solved'. And I'm still not completely convinced the drone footage of the plane disappearing is real.No, it's not real.... it was 100% debunked back in December by the guy who posted that his own earlier stock footage of the very same clouds had been used in the (very clever) fake video, created by persons unknown.

That slam-dunk video is in post #1787 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=1589992&viewfull=1#post1589992), but unfortunately it's now private — maybe because the guy who'd identified his own stock video of the clouds was being hassled by Ashton Forbes supporters.

If anyone can find this same video re-uploaded elsewhere (which I'd guess it may well have been), do please post it again here. It's quite important to put Ashton Forbes' claims to rest, which I'd gently suggest may be rather needed now.

Yes, I thought this was put to bed a long time ago because of the cloud stock footage.
However, maybe the cloud stock footage could have been created at a much later point from the Ashdon Forbes video ??It's a shame his video is now private! (And I'd love to find it reu0loaded somewhere else.) But in it he proved with timestamped screenshots that his cloud stock footage was dated before even MH370 disappeared.

Well, I just watched the redacted interview and Ashdon seems to have established that the clouds in both videos (taken from different locations ie a military drone and a sattelite) match and would have had to been modelled in 3d to reflect the lights the way they do.
Also he says that stock footage only looked similar in a few frames.

For what its worth, I like the guy, he seems really genuine and his research goes really deep.
He seems to even have figured out who leaked the footage in the first place.

Defo well worth watching.

[onawah]

What Really Happened To Malaysian Airlines Flight 370? | Candace EP 80
Candace Owens
2.68M subscribers
10/7/24

"Ashton Forbes joins me to discuss the mystery behind the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and all the secrecy surrounding it."

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[Helvetic]

And the circus goes on...

Source: Ashton Forbes on X JustXAshton (https://x.com/JustXAshton)

Description:

I see Kimdotgov weighed in on the Candace interview so I'll respond. I've been overly nice to him despite the fact that he's repeatedly lied about me and tried to scam me.

No one should trust Kimdotcom. What you should ask is why does he care so much about this case? Why did he get involved at all? He's a career scammer and criminal and he tried to play me to get a lighter sentence from the US Government where he's facing 181 years in prison and about to be extradited.

He literally pressured me to claim the videos are fake when I just woke up. He's been lying about me non-stop. He's going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

The 'cloud images' in question don't exist anywhere on the internet before 2016. Other images in the same set by the same photographer from the same day go back to 2012 online. That's a fact. We checked even the torrents which couldn't have been tampered with on advice from the photographer, the images don't exist.

The irony of a career criminal and career scammer trying to claim I'm one is hilarious. In response to Kim's defamatory statements about me I'll be playing the video we made about him glowing like a Christmas Tree on all of my live streams from here forward. He won't bring anything to court because I'd win and take all his illegal megaupload money.

Be careful who you trust. I'm the only expert on the #MH370 videos and Kim is an actual criminal with no credibility.


https://i.ibb.co/rQR2tqk/Kim.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Another fun fact, Kim tried to offer me a job on his legal defense if I would let this case go about MH370. True story.

Even said he'd pay me a lot of money. Sent me the link to his website with all the case and the vide of him getting raided by the feds.

Kim is a government asset and no one should believe a single thing he says, ever.

He's the very definition of controlled opposition. He only says what the CIA lets him say.

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[Helvetic]

Panel Discussion | Free Energy Friday with Ashton Forbes, David Rosi, David Chester, Jeremy Rys | Oct. 15, 2024

Source: AlienScientist youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@AlienScientist)

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Description:

The Ongoing Disclosure of the #RealScience Process of Researching, Repeating, Building, Designing, & Testing The OG Whistle-Blowers & Martyred Inventors of Break Through Disruptive Technologies & Sciences. Electrical Engineering the Aether.

[Helvetic]

I haven't seen this video yet. If necessary, I will make my comments.

Ashton Forbes | UFO Disclosure w/ Salvatore Pais ft. Dave Rossi | Dec. 1, 2024

Source: Ashton Forbes youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@JustXAshton)

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Description:

Deep dive into Salvatore Pais' patents and the science of zero point energy.
Asking Salvatore Pais about the MH370 videos.
Discussing Cold Plasma and EVOs

Navy Engineer Salvatore Pais knew the orbs were about to create wormhole in the MH370 drone video the very first time he saw it.

He says that the orbs are conditioning the vacuum around the aircraft with non-ionizing radiation. They establish a resonance effect to build up the electromagnetic field strength in order to break the Schwinger Limit.

I asked him if he's seen other videos like this and he says that even if he had he wouldn't be allowed to say since it would reveal surveillance methods.

There's no such thing as 'fake' military videos filmed in infrared and IR depicting real science based on zero point energy. Let alone ones of a real missing civilian airliner that hasn't been found in 10 years.

[Richter]

This Plane Unlocked the Pandora Box (36:52)
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[wegge]

Ashton Forbes has now supposedly unearthed Edward Lin (who changed his name), the leaker of the videos which started everything.

https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1892036988334686352

In addition to that, he found that Lin's brother in law was a guest at the Danny Jones Podcast and works for the CIA (like Danny Jones?). When being a guest at Danny's podcast, Forbes seemingly got a rough treatment by Danny (didn't watch the show).

[jaybee]

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This video has more info about the MH370 incident - for anyone who's interested and hasn't given up on the possibility it was actually a real space/time teleportation incident -

apologies in advance if it turns out to be disinfo.... :) but.... the latest comments being made public about the US having technology that can manipulate time and space - and Trump saying about America's secret and superior weaponry - has brought it back into focus -

BREAKING: Kratsios' White House Time-Space Confession That Explains MH370 Mystery Finally (25:42)

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Time Travel Is Real and Here’s How it Works, Government Has Been Hiding It | Redacted
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“3 ORBS NEXT TO THE PLANE ADD UP TO 1 NEGATIVE CHARGE, THEN YOU HAVE 1 POSITIVE CHARGE AT DIEGO GARCIA & WHEN THE ORBS COME TOGETHER, IT CAUSES THEM TO SLINGSHOT & THEY APPEAR AT YOUR NEW LOCATION
In late 2023, Ashton Forbes and his group on X.com claimed to have solved the mystery of what happened to Flight MH-370, with the help of leaked US satellite and drone footage, Chinese satellite images and by consulting with numerous witnesses and experts.

The upshot of what Forbes believes happened is that there was a lithium ion battery explosion on the plane that caused a major fire, causing the Captain to turn the plane around and to descend to a lower altitude, to allow his passengers to breathe after cabin de-pressurization. Then, he believes a secret US Navy teleportation technology was directed at the airliner.
In the leaked videos that we see here, looped in Ashton Forbes’ interview with Clayton Morris on Redacted, we see three orbs rotating around the fuselage of Flight MH-370, before the plane appears to be “zapped” out of space-time.

These three orbs could be partial visible evidence of the process that Bob Beckwith was trying to get me to understand, 25 years ago, when I was writing a book about space-time manipulation.

Bob told me that by the late 1990s, the US Navy’s entire Osprey Class of minesweepers were equipped with teleportation capabilities and that these ships could literally “blip” themselves to anywhere on the planet. The ships could also be placed one second ahead of Universal space-time while cruising and thereby, go undetected.

If it’s true that this teleportation technology was on Osprey Class minesweepers in the 1990s, then it’s probably on a lot of other military vehicles by now, as suggested by Air Force General Steven Kwast and by White House Office of Science & Technology Director, Michael Kratsios, earlier this week.

Bob Beckwith was the Founder of the successful electrification systems engineering company, Beckwith Electric. He was an electronics wunderkind who at 23, was working at Bell Labs in the early 1940s, when the US Navy commandeered him for the war effort, mainly to work on “sonar invisibility”, to help make US ships undectable to the German mines being laid off the East Coast, which were blowing merchant ships out of the water.

The capability of placing ships ahead of Universal space-time would hypothetically eliminate this threat. In Bob’s book that he sent to me, ‘Hypotheses’, he expounded on his theory about “Divided Space”. He theorized that “bubbles” of Divided Space could be created and separated from what he called “Universal Space” by applying three counter-rotating EM fields of enough force.

He explained this is what enables UFOs to take 90º and 45º turns at thousands of g forces, without breaking up; because these craft possess technology that generates a field of Divided Space around them.

So, it’s very interesting to me that the leaked footage seen in video of Ashton Forbes’ interview with Clayton Morris shows three small orbs revolving around the fuselage of the airliner before they all disappear in an endothermic blip, with no heat signature – or what Ashton Forbes suggests is a “phase transition” of the plane, as he told Keith Malinak and Zeynep Yenisey on At The Mic.

Bob Beckwith wrote another short book called ‘Levitation, Teleportation and Time Travel’. Bob and the contents of this book are referenced in a 15-page document that Richard Dolan called “The UFO leak of the century”, which was entered into the public record during the May 17th 2022 Open House Intelligence Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Subcommittee hearing on UFOs (“UAPs”).

Among many other things, the document confirms the existence of an “MJ-12-like cabal”, the 1947 UFO crash at Roswell, alien bodies and an ultra secret UFO crash retrieval and back-engineering program operating completely outside of government oversight and which was still active as of 2002.

Bob shared a lot of other interesting details, that I posted about, here.

I’m not a physicist and I can’t say with 100% certainty whether Bob was psyopping me – and psyopping the House Subcommittee on UFOs, postmortem – or telling the truth. All I can say is that the above is what he told me and you can read more about that and other, totally crazy stuff that people claimed to me was true in my first book, ‘The Philadelphia Experiment Murder’.

I also can’t say with 100% certainty whether Ashton Forbes is psyopping us. His digital footprint is limited to podcasts and social media. From a previous podcast, we learned that Ashton is an IT professional with a US Government security clearance. So his “bonafides” are mysterious but he’s very good at explaining things.

In this interview with Clayton Morris, Ashton goes into the fascinating details about the technology that we are witnessing in the leaked videos of MH-370, which he believes was quantum-tunneled, i.e., teleported from its flight path to an unknown location. He believes the “zap” that we see in the video is:

“Absolute proof [that] the orbs are inducing a Negative Energy state [“pulled-out” of Zero Point Energy] through a low energy Phase Transition…

“That’s gravitational lensing, right there…Now, what you’re seeing here is, you’re seeing space-time being contracted. And when it gets contracted, the Refractive Index, the Permittivity of the Vacuum changes. And when that happens, what you see is this effect, where the Ground State of…your orbs goes down.

“And what this does is it’s like a trampoline, like jumping on a little trampoline. It pulls a little bit of energy out and it doesn’t even have to be that much energy, because those balls of plasma are 20 feet wide of condensed charge. They’re extremely powerful magnets.

“So when you jam them together, the closer they get, that force goes up and it amplifies, to a degree where then, boom, space-time, itself breaks down…and magnetic reconnection occurs when the orbs get too close because these magnetic fields, these orbs is so powerful.

“Now, the last thing I want to say on the orbs, for you to understand, which is helpful, is that these are orbs of Coherent Plasma, meaning that what’s happening is the magnetic and electric fields the plasma is producing is what’s being used to make it into a sphere…

“So, what they figured out is if they move the plasma around the right way, the fields will cause the plasma to become an orb that stays coherent in the sky, that can float around.

“And that’s called Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD). You’ll see the acronym all over the place. They’re using controlled powerful magnetic fields to move the plasma around, keep the charge separated, the positive and the negative, so that it acts like a lightning bolt…

“The last point I want to make is…I think [what we’re seeing in the videos is) actual teleportation. So what’s happening is the orbs must have an equal number of charge between the four orbs. You’ve got three orbs around the plane and you’ve got one orb somewhere else. So when this plane is being teleported – Delta, don’t sue me – and then comes back, the orbs need to cancel-out…

“[One] configuration could be that the three orbs next to the plane all add up to one negative charge. And then, you have one positive charge, let’s say, at Diego Garcia or in the Maldives. And then, when the orbs come together, it causes them to slingshot and come together and then they appear at your new location.”

Ashton goes on to say that he believes, “There is no way for you to actually go back to a previous time in the Universe. But you can actually travel in time. Time travel is 100% real…You can travel to the future, number one. You can slow your rate of time, so that everything else looks like it’s speeding-up around you, to such a degree, where you could go 100 years in the future…The other thing you could do is you could reverse your biological process. You could put a bubble around yourself and reverse the entropy of inside the bubble, which is you and your age, and you could reverse your age.“

This last description sounds a bit like the “bubbles” of “Divided Space” that Bob Beckwith was telling me about.

Shortly after my book came out in January 2001, the tiny cabin that I was renting on Big Fresh Pond in Southampton, NY was repeatedly broken-into and my personal belongings riffled-through – including on the day that I went into Manhattan to meet with FEMA in October 2001, at the apartment I’d rented for 8 years, 1/2 block from the World Trade Center, when my apartment was declared “Uninhabitable” and FEMA later wired me $4,000 to cover the cost of moving out and buying a new couch.

I was traumatized by the devastation of Lower Manhattan that I’d just seen. Then, I got back to my rented cabin and someone had broken into it again and tossed things around.

I was spooked by these repeated break-ins and I was sick of everybody thinking I was crazy, so I eventually stopped talking – or even thinking – about what I’d learned, while writing my book about the manipulation of space-time.

But suddenly, it appears that a discussion of this subject is fair game – even if ChatGPT’s Woke AI doesn’t like it!

TRANSCRIPT

Clayton Morris: Alright, I want to talk about time travel. I’m looking forward to this all day. I’ve been looking forward to talking with Ashton Forbes all day in the secret technology.

Yes, the White House admitting this week, on the record by the way, that we possess the technology to manipulate time and space. In other words, time travel, teleportation technology, like the very same technology that was used to make MH-370, Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, disappear in thin air on camera. And by the way, the people that are like, “Oh, that video has been debunked.”

Shut up. No, it hasn’t. In fact, it’s been the opposite. It’s been “bunked”. It’s not been debunked. And the man who helped really uncover the story from the beginning is Ashton Forbes.

One of our favorite guests, here on the show. I call him a “physicist” because he is citizen journalist and one of the most prolific individuals in this space. And just thrilled to have you on the show, Ashton.

Ashton Forbes: Great.

Clayton Morris: Great to have you. Welcome back to the show, my friend.

Ashton Forbes: Thanks, Clayton. Feelings mutual. It’s always fun to talk to you.

Clayton Morris: Blast. I hope we have fun here. I’m really looking forward to this.

So this is, the reason I wanted to have you on is because of this bombshell. There’s a couple of stories, over the past couple of weeks that kind of came out. I want to play this first soundbite from General Kwast.

Now, he worked in Colorado, training individuals, and he saw this technology basically, I think, on the desks of Air Force engineers in the United States Air Force. And it was basically admitting that we have these incredible technologies that allows us to teleport transport in ways that you wouldn’t blow your mind. So let me just play a few seconds of this. Watch this one.

(Roll video of General Kwast)

General Kwast: The technology is on the engineering benches today, but most Americans and most in Congress have not had time to really look deeply at what’s going on, here. But I’ve had the benefit of 33 years of studying and becoming friends with these engineers and these scientists.

This technology can be built today with technology that is not developmental, to deliver any human being from any place on planet Earth to any other place in less than an hour; to deliver Wi-Fi from space, where you never need a cell tower to connect, to deliver…

Clayton Morris: Yeah. And then this just happened over the past 48 hours. Trump White House official of Science and Technology Policy Director Michael Kriatsos said that, “We possess the technology that can manipulate time and space.” Watch.

(Roll Video of Michael Kriatsos)

Michael Kriatsos: Our passenger planes are slower than they used to be. Our trains crawl, compared to those in other parts of the world. Our cars do not fly. Advances have not stopped, but something has gone wrong. Stagnation was a choice. We have weighed-down our builders and innovators.

The well-intentioned regulatory regime of the 1970s became an ever-tightening ratchet, first hampering America’s ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder and harder to build.

We seem to have lost focus and vision, to have lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along. But we are capable of so much more. Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space.

They leave distance annihilated, cause things to grow and improve productivity…

Clayton Morris: So he’s basically – and I love what you tweeted the other day – you pointed out basically, he’s admitting that we allowed our technology to purposefully stagnate, that we almost slowed it down, on purpose, yet we have the ability to manipulate time and space.

So first of all, when you heard his comments, what did you think?

Ashton Forbes: The first thing I thought was, “OK, let me see the context.” And when you get the context, it’s actually even crazier, in the context.

He’s saying that, “We intentionally made a choice to hamstring our technology.” And he’s talking, specifically about transportation technology. And then he says, “We are capable of so much more.”

And when he says that, “We have the ability to manipulate time and space,” he’s talking about gravity manipulation. That’s what manipulation of time and space literally is.

And then, after that, he speaks to other things that also would speak to things like what plasma might do, to make things grow, as well as, just other applications for the same technology, potentially as well, like AI.

He speaks to making things “more productive”, which in today’s day and age would mean AI. He says something about the 1970s, which I don’t think anybody really picked up on. But if you’re somebody that has researched gravity research, in the ’70s, the Mansfield Amendment was passed.

And what this did was made it so that the military could not fund things that were not related to combat; direct military applications. And so, gravity research got pushed to the defense contractors.

So all of these references, like, “There’s no way,” there’s so many people gaslighting about, “Oh, he’s talking about telephones and internet.”

These people are sitting at the little kids table, right? Well, there’s two videos out there in perfect sync that show a plane literally disappearing out of space-time, that is still missing 11 years later. So we got to just be real about it. As much as we don’t want to believe it, whatever, but it seems undeniable to me.

Clayton Morris: Yeah. We’re watching this. This is MH-370 on the screen here, which of course disappears using – so, would you say that maybe the same technologies that he’s talking about – is what allowed the United States government to disappear MH-370?

Ashton Forbes: Yeah, definitely. And what we’re talking about, here is technology that you can find a lot of videos of engineers talking about this, that Zero Point energy technology is an echelon above anything that we have conventionally, right now. So even nukes are completely obsolete, in the face of this level of technology.

And you’ll hear people talking about this all over the place. So you can imagine a lot of scenarios, where, with this type of technology, the United States Government is uncontested in the world. And this explains why nobody has really actually tried to challenge us on the global stage for almost an entire century, at this point.

And some people “Well say, if these are out there, could other countries have figured it out?” Yes. I think there’s a shadow arms race. And I think it overlaps with the UFO community where they say that “This might be UFO tech” or whatever, and then Russia and China are working on this.

This is what scares me the most about this is that if two warring factions get this level of technology, the science on display here that I want to go through with you today, it has the capability of producing not just a wormhole, but actually a black hole, like annihilation of the entire Planet – maybe even the entire solar system. This is a matter of scale.

And what you realize from these videos and the science related to them is that physics, the universe is scale-invariant. Stuff that you can do on the small level, small scale, you can also do on the large scale. Those orbs that you see there, they are mimicking atoms.

It looks like an atom. It’s a positively-charged plasma in the center with electrons, that you can see is as green; as a shell around it. You can even see the shell of the electrons move fluidly when they start to spin around the plane because the magnetic field they’re producing around the plane.

It’s just wild, when you look at it and you can see all of that detail from that.

So what I was hoping today is to – and I’ve seen you talk to Tucker Carlson – some people that are really prominent and connected. And I want to help, because you’re saying all the right stuff; to get all the lingo and arm you with all the tools that you need, to help explain to the general masses and to these people who are connected, like what’s really going on, here, from a scientific perspective and from a suppression perspective and National Security, as well.

Clayton Morris: Please. So let’s get into it. So, I mean, I think what you just said is amazing that nuclear weapons are obsolete. Nuclear weapons are obsolete that we have the ability to manipulate time and space. Those are the weapons that that’s why no one wants to touch us, because we have things that are far more powerful. And I think, I think you would agree that these technologies have come from UFO crash retrieval programs, if I’m not mistaken, right?

Ashton Forbes: Well, I think there’s a lot of options. I’m open-minded, you know, and I’ve now grown to have a viewpoint of anything that’s possible, under the right conditions. So does it come from aliens? Does it come from things that we dug-up? Does it come from future humans or another dimension?

I don’t know if we have enough evidence to say for sure, at the moment. I will say I’m pretty confident there’s a psychological operation going on, to get us to be convinced that humans can’t understand this, that it’s “alien technology. It’s alien physics that humans can’t possibly understand.”

And that way, if we’re doing Black Operations, covert operations – which is what the MH-370 videos show – we can blame it on “aliens”.

“Oh, it was aliens that zapped the plane away!”

No, aliens aren’t zapping the plane away. That’s us. That’s what humans do. So I think that they’re trying to get us to avoid that.

And it’s very important to realize that there is no alien physics. Anything that aliens can understand, anywhere in this universe, that’s physics that we can understand.

We are simply missing something that’s probably right in front of us, when it comes to how these UFOs we see flying in the sky are moving around. And absolutely, anyone out there: UFOs are real. There are things flying around that people do not understand. It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s “aliens” though.

Here’s the secret after I dug into it, as an investigator, the answer to the question of how this is all possible is Negative Energy.

And you go, “Wait, wait, Ashton, all the academics are saying that Negative Energy is this non-existent exotic substance!”

Yeah. Why are they saying that? Because it’s not, it’s a conceptual misunderstanding. And then, boom, the whole universe opens up to us. Tesla technology is possible.

Clayton Morris: Yeah. Let’s, so let’s break it down for the lay person and let’s, if we want to get this out to the masses.

So, in my conversations with Tucker and others about, about this, trying to kind of break through maybe the psychological operation that’s out there and lay it bare for everybody: Negative Energy, what is it and how could it be used in all of these applications?

Ashton Forbes: Exactly. So there’s something called the “vacuum catastrophe”, which is that we look up in the sky and we measure the cosmic microwave background. We’re measuring all the heat that we can see in the sky.

And we say that that’s all the energy that’s out there, in the Universe. And it comes to this relatively small amount of energy.

But then, Quantum Mechanics came around. Wheeler and Feynman came into play and Schwinger and Feynman won the Nobel prize for Quantum Electrodynamics in 1965.

John Archibald Wheeler and Richard Feynman said, when you do the math on the quantum perspective on the energy of the Universe, it’s over 120 orders of magnitude higher than when we measure the cosmic microwave background. Why this discrepancy? Which one is correct? Is there no Zero Point energy out there to be tapped into? Or is there a huge ocean of energy that can be tapped into?

The difference between this question is the difference between whether or not Negative Energy exists or not.

If you don’t think Negative Energy exists, because it’s an “exotic substance”, then you’re somebody that believes that the cosmic microwave background is the answer; that there’s no energy to be tapped into.

But if you’re somebody that understands Quantum Mechanics, you realize that we’re not talking about thermal energy. We’re not talking about heat. We’re talking about vibrational energy.

The Zero Point energy, that ocean of energy, it’s vibrating all the time, on the tiniest possible scales. And that’s how we interact with it. That’s why Tesla was saying that there’s an “ether” of energy and that “The answer to the Universe is energy, frequency, and vibration.”

So what these people need to understand then is, well, what’s the thing that we missed? Zero is not the bottom. Zero point energy is quite literally the energy that exists below zero. The energy below the Ground State.

So “zero” is not the bottom. That’s not “zero”. It’s just the Ground State. It’s just the equilibrium state. That’s us, on top of the ocean. We’re on top of the ocean, floating around.

So what’s Negative Energy? Oh, if we tap into that Zero Point energy, we pull it out!

And what are those orbs doing in that video? This is why it’s proof!

This is why the “zap” in the video is absolute proof. The orbs are inducing a Negative Energy state through a low energy Phase Transition. The Ground State of – imagine, just a hydrogen atom. The Ground State of the hydrogen atom is shrinking a little bit, because they’re shrinking the space.

Like, you look at my screen right here. Let me see if I can make this work. They’re shrinking the size of the space, itself. And when you do this, everything comes together. Everything gets squished together.

And when you do this, it changes the Permittivity of the Vacuum of that region of space-time. It allows for Negative Energy to be possible, because the Ground State goes down for every atom that’s there. And when that occurs, there’s a release of energy.

That release of energy is an ultraviolet light. This is why in the Whammy [?] video, the “satellite video”, you see a flash of light come.

So we’re like, “Oh, there’s light.” But when you look in the thermal, it’s black. It’s cold. So: ultraviolet light.

Clayton Morris: So, let’s show, let’s show that.

(Roll thermal video of MH-370 with three revolving orbs)

Clayton Morris: So this is the one where we see –

Ashton Forbes: – that’s gravitational lensing, right there.

Clayton Morris: So what are we seeing here? So there, it disappears.

Ashton Forbes: That was the frame, right beforehand. And then, the frame right after this wormhole opens up, by the way, there’s only four frames of this wormhole and you can actually see it open and close. You can even see the tail of the plane in the first frame right there.

Now, what you’re seeing here is, you’re seeing space-time being contracted. And when it gets contracted, the Refractive Index, the Permittivity of the Vacuum changes. And when that happens, what you see is this effect, where the Ground State of your atom; of your hydrogen atom, your orbs goes down.

And what this does is it’s like a trampoline, like jumping on a little trampoline. It pulls a little bit of energy out and it doesn’t even have to be that much energy, because those balls of plasma are 20 feet wide of condensed charge. They’re extremely powerful magnets.

So when you jam them together, the closer they get, that force goes up and it amplifies, to a degree where then, boom, space-time, itself breaks down. Space-time, itself breaks down and magnetic reconnection occurs when the orbs get too close because these magnetic fields, these orbs is so powerful.

Now, the last thing I want to say on the orbs, for you to understand, which is helpful, is that these are orbs of Coherent Plasma, meaning that what’s happening is the magnetic and electric fields the plasma is producing is what’s being used to make it into a sphere.

You would say, wait, what? It’s actually, itself is making the fields that keep it trapped? Yes. So what they figured out is if they move the plasma around the right way, the fields will cause the plasma to become an orb that stays coherent in the sky that can float around.

And that’s called Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD). You’ll see the acronym all over the place. They’re using controlled powerful magnetic fields to move the plasma around, keep the charge separated, the positive and the negative, so that it acts like a lightning bolt.

And then, somebody at some point figured out, “Oh, let’s just jam a few of these together and then, boom, we can make things disappear!”

The last point I want to make is, well, you’re saying it’s “teleportation”. It could probably annihilate something, as well, but for several reasons, including the phones ringing, the plane being seen later on, and all this weird dance the orbs are doing on the plane, I think it’s actual teleportation.

So what’s happening is the orbs must have an equal number of charge between the four orbs. You’ve got three orbs around the plane and you’ve got one orb somewhere else. So when this plane is being teleported – Delta, don’t sue me – and then comes back, the orbs need to cancel-out.

So, let’s say you’ve got two of the orbs are positively-charged and two are negatively-charged. When they come together, they’re going to equalize and they’re going to dissipate. That could be one configuration.

The other configuration would could be that the three orbs next to the plane all add up to one negative charge. And then, you have one positive charge, let’s say, at Diego Garcia or in the Maldives. And then, when the orbs come together, it causes them to slingshot and come together and then they appear at your new location.

That’s what these people have figured out. And it’s crazy, because it’s so far beyond our current paradigm, to think that, not only could we have figured-out gravity and have an actual working warp drive and wormhole technology, but to actually use it on an airplane that, itself is not equipped.

It’s not like it’s a Starship Enterprise. We used it on an airplane that was flying around in the sky. So this is like, you realize the implications of this, right away, as I’m sure you’ve considered. You could teleport a nuke onto somebody. This is technology that obsoletes all prior forms of weaponry.

Clayton Morris: It’s amazing to think and you have this whole battle discussion over Iran and “developing a nuclear weapon”. And in many ways, the whole thing is moot, because this technology is so far more advanced than all of that.

I want you to stick around, Ashton, if you can, and we want to move our, we’re going to do this whole Rumble Premium thing and I want to kind of open it up for a lot of people to ask questions here, if we can. But before we get there, and by the way, if you’re watching us on YouTube, come on over to Rumble. We’ve got 30,000 of you watching us live on Rumble, right now.

All the tens of thousands of you, over on YouTube, come on over to our Rumble Premium, right now, because we’re going to hang out with Ashton, if we can.

When we talk about time travel, and we talk about when you’re moving into this wormhole, are we actually jumping through time or the way that we think of time, I guess?

Ashton Forbes: Yeah, I thought you might ask me that. It’s funny, because I spent last night trying to figure that out and now, I think I have a good answer: that the wormhole itself, if you’re traveling through it, there’s no time that’s passing, no matter where the opening and closing is.

And if you follow the Principle of Least Action, this would mean that there’s never going to be any passage of time, while you’re traveling through the wormhole. And if you then put one more restriction and say that “The mouth of the wormhole cannot move.” It can only be in one spot, as in, it opens and closes and it’s not there anymore.

If you make those two restrictions, it’s no longer possible to go back in time. Reverse causality is no longer possible, no matter how you look at it. You will always, even if you go through a portal, go through a different portal, you’ll never show up at a time before you started the process.

So, in my opinion right now, having done the physics, is that there is no way for you to actually go back to a previous time in the Universe. But you can actually travel in time. Time travel is 100% real.

You can do two different things, which I think are extremely significant. You can travel to the future, number one. You can slow your rate of time, so that everything else looks like it’s speeding-up around you, to such a degree, where you could go 100 years in the future.

All of a sudden, it’s 100 years in the future, and you’re like, “Whoa, how did that happen?” It would be extremely disorienting, but you could do it.

The other thing you could do is you could reverse your biological process. You could put a bubble around yourself and reverse the entropy of inside the bubble, which is you and your age, and you could reverse your age.

Before you ask me, would you remember that? I actually asked Navy engineer Salvatore Pais this question. His opinion is you would still remember, because his belief is your consciousness is stored in the Zero-Point Energy, not – your body as just a receiver – which, I tend to agree, but obviously speculative.

Clayton Morris: That’s unbelievable. Time travel is real, and I know I’ve always wanted to talk to you more deeply about this, and we will. Ashton, thank you so much."


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[Helvetic]

Description:

Just sharing some correspondence with Joe (@thejoelancaster) a.k.a the creator of the MH370 videos.

I found it interesting that there wasn’t special information put into the scientific side of the videos.

It did call into question for me somewhat, the scientific confirmation of the validity of the videos. Some independent analysis of the phenomena involved, beyond the affirmations by Pais and Greenyer, would be valuable, although expertise in the “relevant” subjects does seem to be quite obscure.


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[Magnus]

Description:

Just sharing some correspondence with Joe (@thejoelancaster) a.k.a the creator of the MH370 videos.

I found it interesting that there wasn’t special information put into the scientific side of the videos.

It did call into question for me somewhat, the scientific confirmation of the validity of the videos. Some independent analysis of the phenomena involved, beyond the affirmations by Pais and Greenyer, would be valuable, although expertise in the “relevant” subjects does seem to be quite obscure.

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I smell a red herring in "TheAlaphasapien" answers.

[Helvetic]

Source: Warren on X (https://x.com/HometownBuffett)


Description:

Ashton Forbes is a pathological liar, alcoholic, and incel.

The photographer removed his video due to harassment from Ashton's cult. The raw files remain available here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JT0KOI1yJEtZVzdQtVBHWzyKujFDlBrb/view

Furthermore the images have passed all forensic analyses, including PRNU analysis.


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[Bill Ryan]

Source: Warren on X (https://x.com/HometownBuffett)

Description:

(re Ashton Forbes' claims)
The photographer removed his video due to harassment from Ashton's cult. The raw files remain available here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JT0KOI1yJEtZVzdQtVBHWzyKujFDlBrb/view

Folks, this is correct. THX for posting this. :thumbsup: Though it wasn't Forbes who faked the video he continually refers to, his claims have always been nonsense. His very bad mistake was refusing to admit that he'd been fooled.