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jackovesk
8th March 2014, 05:24
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Posted on March 6, 2014 by Deus Nexus

New Delhi is in the middle of a big secret internal debate. On one side the largest democracy of the world is eager to explain to its citizens and to the world about the ongoing contacts with the UFOs and extra-terrestrials. On the other hand there are invisible untold international protocols that prohibit doing anything that may cause worldwide fear and panic.

It is well accepted between the UFO and extra-terrestrial experts that all the five nuclear powers are in contact with the beings from other stars for quite some time.

Recently India has seen enormous news on UFO contacts and secret UFO bases in Himalayas near the Chinese bases. In Ladak, for example the locals clearly point out the everyday phenomenon of large triangular spacecrafts coming out below the ground and Indian security forces protecting them. Military officials and politicians have confessed the fact that India has been contacted. India has been told the rules of the Universe.

The current debate is on whether to keep it secret like other countries are doing or in tradition of a total transparent society come out and tell the truth. India is so open and democratic; it is very difficult to keep a secret for long. The biggest concern of the Government today is that unlike in other countries, it will be very difficult to keep it secret for long. If the information comes out through unofficial channels first and then the authorities are pressed against the wall to confess, two bad things can happen. First, it can really cause a panic in the country as well as the world. Second, the way the Indian politics is run, the ruling party will be thrown out of power in no time if it is ever found that the Government withheld such information from the public.

The recent rush of world leaders to India is remarkable. Starting from Russian President Putin to major Senators from America have visited or are planning to visit India. European Union is in deep discussion with India on cooperation. All sanctions against India’s nuclear programs and Indian Space Research Organization are in the process of being lifted. India is cooperating with Europeans and the Americans in space explorations and technology research program. India is also part of World Trade Organization. India is receiving major outsourcing contracts in IT and call-center service work from America and Europe. India’s Forex reserve is at a level never imagined before because of international direct investments from Western nations, Japan, Korea and others.

Interestingly, China the arch rival of India changed its posture in the last few years to make India’s friendship and trade a priority. India is slowly getting to the point when it is accepted as a permanent member of the Security Council. All the five Security Council members China, America, Russia, France and UK support India’s inclusion.

When all these factors are added together and analyzed, it seems like India is being told by the world to abide by the hidden protocols and in exchange be recognized as a major emerging superpower. The debate the country is facing internally is whether to abide by the laws of the world and the Universe to be recognized as a superpower or be truthful to its citizens and the world. According to sources close to the Government, the UFO contacts is known by quite a few politicians in the opposition and of course by those who are in power.

The military has legitimate concern of not letting the secrets out either. Recently, India’s foreign affairs minister Mr. Natwar Singh came out and said that for India it was not necessary to become a nuclear power. He is a strong supporter of Mrs. Indira Gandhi, India’s former Prime Minister who initiated the nuclear program in the mid sixties. India first exploded a nuclear device in Pokhran in early seventies. The whole country including people from his own party questioned Mr. Singh for such an irresponsible statement.

But on analyzing his statements, it is evident, that based on what he knows now, being a nuclear power really does not matter much because the technologies controlled by the extra-terrestrials are so advanced that all our technologies mean really nothing. But importantly he may be irritated with this controversial ongoing secret debate and what he really meant was that if India was not a nuclear power, the debate on UFO and extra-terrestrials will never be there in India.

Hundreds Of UFOs Sighted In India (http://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2012/11/21/ufos-sighted-in-india/)

http://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/india-annouce-ufos-are-real/

sigma6
8th March 2014, 09:14
I still think the idea people would be scared and panic is a load of horse manure... Based on a test by Orson Welles?... more BS... it was no test... It was just a giant PR exercise by Orson a genius of mass media at the time... People wouldn't give a crap, or they would just be in denial... And once the aliens came out in public... well that would be a different world wouldn't it... The world powers, all governments would lose face... That is the truth... those are the people who would be in a panic... they would be exposed for a bunch of corrupt 2 faced hypocrites they are... the ambiguity would end, the question of their willingness to lie would be over... It would be a fact... A given... They couldn't even think of a multi billion dollar campaign to cover this one...

Keep the masses ignorant... it's for their own good you know... (NOT!)

Cidersomerset
8th March 2014, 10:19
How can India not believe in UFO's with the implicit proof in the Virmanas ...LOL


http://www.wermodandwermod.com/newsitems/Vimana.jpeg

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=the+vimanas&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ouwaU9HqHtLwhQf3pYC4Ag&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=985#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=mAYx8ry6_73r8M%253A%3BfvN7jbq7AWm_rM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.wermodandwermod.com%252Fnewsitem s%252FVimana.jpeg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.wermodandwermod.com%252Fnewsitems%252Fnews171120110000.ht ml%3B700%3B420
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/vimanas.htm

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India sends Rocket to Mars.....

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/05/article-2487176-1933545000000578-768_634x440.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2487176/India-sends-rocket-Mars-1bn-year-space-programme.html

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I posted this on another thread a couple of days ago by coincidence.....


Although Billy's experience started earlier and there is controversy
over later photos, these from the sixties look very genuine imo.

No CGI, string, miniature trees, models or hub caps in sight ..LOL

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India 1964:

The Foundational Evidence

that Establishes the Authenticity

of the

Billy Meier UFO Contacts



India 1964

In 1964, Billy Meier was interviewed by a S. Venkatesh, a reporter for the New
Delhi Statesman, a prominent Indian newspaper in existence since 1818. At this
time, Meier was studying in the Ashoka Ashram, in Mehrauli, a remote area
approximately one and one-half hours outside of New Delhi. Meier, whose full name
is Eduard Albert Meier, is referred to as "Mr. Edward Albert" in the article. He
acquired the nickname, "Billy", by which he is now widely known from an American
woman he also met in 1964, in Pakistan. She thought that he reminded her of the
legendary Wild Bill Hickok.

The photo below shows Meier in Pakistan in 1964, one of 43 countries he hitchhiked
through over a 12-year period, dressed in garb similar to American cowboys.


http://theyfly.com/Meier_Pakistan_2.jpg




The 1964 Newspaper Article


http://theyfly.com/New%20Delhi%20Journal%20Article%203.jpg


The above information establishes that:

Meier was in India in 1964 and was interviewed in a well respected, credible publication.

The author of the article had personally seen 80 of Meier's UFO photographs.

At the time, Meier was a poor hitchhiker who had no money or other known resources.

As is also stated in the article, Meier didn't seek any publicity during this time and it
wasn't until 11 years later, in 1975, that he first went public, at the request of the
new group of extraterrestrials who had contacted him. He verifiably had neither the
means nor opportunity to have hoaxed this foundational evidence. Nor can it be
said that he had any discernable motive, as he eschewed public attention for well
over a decade after having shown the 80 UFO photographs to the reporter.

And perhaps of the utmost importance is the fact that when Meier did go public it
was primarily with the evidence from 1975 on. He didn't draw any attention - well
deserved as it would have been - to this foundational evidence that effectively
closes the door on all theories of hoaxing, seeking fame and fortune, etc.
Considering how ironclad it is, one must wonder why Meier didn't capitalize on it
from the very beginning...if his motives were such as the skeptics have long
accused him.

Retired UN Ambassador

http://www.tjresearch.info/Phobal_plain_text.htm

Phobol Cheng, a now retired UN ambassador who represented Cambodia for 12
years in the General Assembly, not only corroborated Meier's story, and the
information in the article, she showed some of Meier's UFO photos from that time
(see below) and described details about them in her filmed presentation. She
reported that, in addition to herself, numerous witnesses had not only seen the
UFOs but had also seen an extraterrestrial woman known as Asket.

Phobol Cheng and Meier were both evaluated for truthfulness by an expert
consultant to the U.S. Army Special Forces who specializes in teaching how to read
- and evaluate - body language. He gave them both a thumbs up for honesty.

Unlike the majority of historical source material, the Meier evidence doesn't rely on
strictly anecdotal information. It incorporates all of the most desired elements for
establishing historical accuracy, i.e. dated, published, eyewitness accounts that are
substantiated by clear, specific physical evidence referred to in the accounts, as
well as verifiably credible, still living witnesses who were filmed corroborating the
story and the evidence first presented in it decades ago.

It really doesn't get much better than that.

The India UFO Photographs

http://www.geocities.com/perry_peterson_1999/mycam1b.jpg

http://caveviews.blogs.com/cave_news/2008/02/1930s-kodak-fol.html

Meier took a number of photos of Asket's, and her people's, UFOs over the Ashoka
Ashram, using an old Kodak bellows type (folding) camera, which he later sold in Kurdistan:

http://theyfly.com/2.%20India%201964.jpg





http://theyfly.com/Small%20ashram.gif











(Enlarged below)





http://theyfly.com/India%20(enlarged%20ashram).jpg









Eight UFOs over the Ashoka Ashram



The photo below shows eight UFOs over the Ashoka Ashram with Phobol Cheng's
ayah (nursemaid) in the foreground looking at the ships. During her presentation,
Phobol described this photo, "OK, this is a very interesting, and also important to
me. This is a whole bunch of them around on top of the Ashoka. This is the
background of the place. You cannot see very clearly of the reproduction here. But
this is one of my ayahs washing my clothes sitting in the veranda outside of my
room. She's washing here (pointing with laser pointer) my school uniform. On the
original photos it's much more clear. So we shared these stories because we had
interacted with her quite a bit -- the washing lady. For me it's very important,
because when I had my experience it was not something.. -- for me it was very
natural and have seen [to have seen?] a lot of ships over the temple or over the --
we have a large area -- over the trees, near the well, over the house.":



http://theyfly.com/8%20Clear%20UFOs%20India.jpg

The Most Amazing Photo

In his 1964 New Delhi Statesman article, Mr. Venkatesh referred to this startling
photo below as showing "a big, bright cross". Meier had asked Asket to
demonstrate something dramatic that her ship was capable of, which she clearly
did using a technology unknown to Meier. (There is conjecture that the cross was a
kind of holographic projection, perhaps similar to that which was used by another
extraterrestrial race that created the Miracle at Fátima illusion.) Notice that directly
behind Meier, who is sitting in the foreground in this daytime photo, is the same
tower as the one in the lower corner of the nighttime photo above (130).



The cross was widely seen by other people in the area, including two women who
worked with Meier at the ashram helping to take care of animals, Mrs. Fiske and
Mrs. Crystal Rogers, both of whom were actually present with Meier at the time this
photo was taken. Mrs. Fiske was an English governess who came to India to teach
the children of a maharaja. She then came to the ashram to teach Phobol, but this
was not for very long, because she tried to force Phobol to become an English "Lady".



Consider that Meier was in India to study Buddhism. Among the things that he
came to learn was meditation and to study the teachings that included information
on reincarnation. Just a year earlier, in 1963, he and Isa Rashid had co-discovered
an ancient document in a long forgotten tomb in Jerusalem. So Asket may have
used this opportunity to also include a hint pertaining to one of Meier's own
previous incarnations, when he was also an important prophet for humankind who
came to teach in India, after having survived being...crucified.:

In Appreciation of Mr. Venkatesh

In Gary Kinder's book, "Light Years", (Part 4, page 47) we find the following information:

"Many years after the article appeared in the New Delhi Statesman, the reporter,
S.Venkatesh responded to a letter inquiring about the mysterious Mr. Albert. He
wrote: 'I distinctly remember meeting the man and he seemed, on recollection,
very serious about what he was saying. I for one would be eager to know what he
did later on, whether he encountered any more space men and ships and whether
he disclosed anything to anyone later, as he promised he would.'"

In 1965, a year after his experiences in India, Meier lost his arm in an accident in
Turkey. Some 10 years later, in 1975, he began to release to the world volumes of
the clearest, most unambiguous photos, film, video, sound recordings and even
metal samples of the UFOs, all of which were shown to be free of manipulation,
models, special effects, etc. It must be emphasized that the sheer variety, quantity
- and quality - of Meier's more recent physical evidence exceeded anything he
presented when he had two hands to work with.

I think Mr. Venkatesh would have been very interested to know just how much "Mr.
Edward Albert", aka Billy Meier, has indeed experienced and disclosed to the world,
since their meeting in India, in 1964. And, while he is no longer amongst us to
receive it, we offer our appreciation to him for providing such rare, historical
evidence that at once establishes the truthfulness of Meier's claims and confronts
us with the most important story in human history.

http://theyfly.com/India_1964.html

Read more.....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43426-Billy-Meier-and-Ptaah--ET--talking-about-2012....Contact-476-3-2-2009&p=548060#post548060

WHOMADEGOD
8th March 2014, 13:27
There will never be close encounters en masse until the old guard are removed, it is simply not safe for our star families to land.

Billy
8th March 2014, 13:56
Come on India. Be the change you want to see in our world. Have you not had enough of being dictated to by corrupt controllers. Hundreds of years of them Stealing your priceless ancient scriptures that relate to Virmanas and ancient technologies ( Ancient flying crafts) and alternative medicines. plants, herbs, spices. Breathing ect.

This is what the Brits were guilty of 300yrs ago. Stole all the above Naadi Leaves, then sold some of them back, but kept all above mentioned never to be seen again.

peace.

bogeyman
8th March 2014, 22:00
It is for each government to decide, as regards governments admitting to these visitors of ours, well they isn't going to happen, admitting to UFOs well that can happen, and has. Mentality and social behaviour and conditioning varies from area to area, culture to culture, personality to personality and country to country. With everything so entwined there is obviously consultations with other governments and meetings some on an official many on an unofficial level, as to what to do about the UFO problem and more so the public reaction problem.

Billy
8th March 2014, 22:14
just to confirm my above post. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadi_astrology At least confirm some. When you are speaking to the Naadi Families as i have had the pleasure. They go into much more detail than what Wiki says.


These Naadi leaves were initially stored in the premises of Thanjavur's Saraswati Mahal Library in Tamil Nadu. The British capitalists later showed interest in the Naadi leaves concerned with herbs and medicine, future prediction, etc., in the hope that they could make money out of the ancient science. However, as providence would have it, they ended up leaving most of the Naadi prediction leaves to the rightful owners. The British did their best to destroy this ancient treasure, as they did with many others. Some leaves got destroyed and the remaining were auctioned during the British rule. These Nadi leaves were obtained by the families of astrologers at the Vaitheeswaran Temple and have been passed down the years from one generation to the other.[2]

The Brits kept many, they may still have them stored away, forgotten.