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ThePythonicCow
11th March 2014, 07:35
What I see coming (unless by some intervention the dark forces dominant over human history for at least the last few millenia lose control):
Economic collapse in the US and Europe (and many places elsewhere) for the next 2 to 4 years
Then serious risk of World War III between NATO and China/Russia.
Then New World Order economically, politically, financially, monetarily, ...
So far, Americans and Europeans are not feeling great pain. Times are not the best, but things "seem normal". Most still have their normal jobs, and the rest are getting by. Stock markets are back to new highs, housing prices have significantly recovered from the 2008 major decline, and imported goods (much of our food, energy and stuff) are still available and affordable. There have been no major riots in the streets of the US or the wealthier Eurozone nations. Most of the baby-boomers (those now in their 50's and 60's) expect to have some sort of retirement, from their savings, their various retirement plans, the equity in their home, or at least Social Security and Medicare.
The Ukraine conflict will be used as one of the major excuses for the economic collapse [14]. The Ukraine conflict, while it may have some relatively minor military fighting, won't erupt into global war. Rather it will be used to justify escalating economic sanctions by the US and EU against Russia and their allies such as China [15], [16], [17], and by Russia and China against the NATO countries (Europe, USA) [18].
This will result in Russia and their ally in this [12] China pulling out support for the US Dollar and the US Treasury market.
This will be blamed as the trigger for a major collapse of the Western banking system and of the dominance of the US Petro-Dollar. Major Western banks will fail. The stock market will crash [22]. IMF austerity measures will be imposed (perhaps fairly soon [7]) on the US and some European nations. Retirement funds and/or bank deposits will be confiscated to fund the excessive debt. Guns will be confiscated [13]. Various freedoms, including on the Internet, will be further limited. The savings of the US middle class, mostly in the forms of their retirement funds, bank accounts and home equity, will all suffer massive losses (theft). Incomes will decline, even collapse. The price to Americans of imported goods will rise a few-fold as other nations will no longer be as interested in accepting payment in US Dollars.
Much of this collapse is already in the cards, with the increasingly fraudulent pyramid schemes of debt and deceit by the current public financial agencies of the US, UK and Eurozone ... but the monetary and energy export retaliation of Russia will take the blame as the trigger. Selling of US Treasury bonds by Russia and China would collapse the current financial system (in the view of John Williams of Shadowstats [4], with the concurrence of Pastor Lindsey Williams [5]).
The Ukraine peninsula of Crimea, with its only Russian warm water naval base, the gas pipelines crossing Ukraine, and the food produced by Ukraine, are vital Russian interests with long historical Russian ties and a Russian speaking and identifying population in the eastern part of Ukraine. Russia will -not- let that be taken from them. US President Obama is escalating the financial and political pressure on Russia and their ally in this, China. Obama cannot win militarily in that region of the world against the Russian military, and he cannot afford to look too weak [8]. So Obama is being forced into escalating economic sanctions [17], which will result in a Russian [6], [11] and Chinese withdrawal of support for the vastly over extended, rotten to the core, Western US Dollar based financial system, causing it to collapse. What has played out in a smaller scale in so many nations such as recently Argentina [7] will play out on the streets of the US.
Only after Americans have gone through at least a couple of years of "Great Depression II" will they be ready for the next step - major hot war, between NATO on one side and the China/Russia axis on the other side [9], [10]. Humanity and life on earth will survive that war - but many humans and other living beings won't.
Before a population can be engaged in a major war, they must be "brought to a boil" ... a complacent population does not engage in major war. Americans are too complacent. So we "need" a couple years of hard times, starvation, homelessness, rioting, collapse of major institutions, trials of bankers, loss of savings in banks, retirement, and home equity, and loss of medical support, before we'll be "hot" enough for a major false flag trigger to ignite us into supporting a serious war. Major false flag events such as 9/11 are sufficient to justify "easy" foreign wars (fought, like the US fought Vietnam previously, while Americans at home continued enjoying life as usual [23]), but they are not sufficient to justify "hard" wars. Hard wars require a desperate people, ready to endure substantial hardship. They must be preceded by a major depression or other such hard times.
Then, after World War III, we earthlings will be ready for a serious world government, controlled from behind the scenes, as always, by the same dark forces that have been dominant over human history for the last few millenia. Only after the dark forces that dominate this planet have achieved sufficient global control can they expose their space faring and advanced technology free energy and weapons, which will make (in Joseph P. Farrell's phrase) a hydrogen bomb look like a firecracker [1].
Global mass control of humanity depends essentially on global mass surveillance of humanity. Hence the Internet.
Global mass control of humanity depends essentially on humans responding en masse, as earthling humans, not as patriots of some particular nation. Hence the Internet.
After World War III, nationalism and patriotism will become taboo. The American flag will join the Nazi swastika in the minds of Americans. The general distrust of our federal government in the US is an intentional prelude to this change. Both New York (big banks) and Washington, DC (big politics) are being setup to fail.
Instead, nameless, faceless, technology so advanced that it seems like magic will handle the routine affairs of managing the politics and economics of human society. The "singularity" [2] will have arrived. The local banks such as Bailey Building and Loan Association [3], will be replaced by all electronic means such as a next generation BitCoin. I'm confident however that any such "money" will still be "lent" into existence, as "debt" has proven itself to be one of the most effective and powerful tools of the bastards in power, the dark forces who stand behind and control kings, presidents, CEO's, and their various nations and institutions.
During this (unfortunate) transition, those (like most of us here) who see too much too soon, and who start replacing their national identify with human identify too soon, will be surveilled, controlled, confused and tyrannized [19], [20], [21] as necessary, while the flag waving, GMO junk food eating, fluoridated water drinking, TV watching, irradiated, chem-trailed, vaccinated, dumb downed and indoctrinated majority, are "cooked" under suitable heat and pressure to form the intended global mass of compliant humanity.
References to various reports, news and analysis supporting or referenced by the above conclusions:
[1] Joseph P. Farrell interview (Project Camelot) (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/joseph_farrell_interview_transcript_en.html)
[2] The coming technology singularity (The Guardian) (http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/feb/28/are-we-already-living-in-the-technological-singularity)
[3] It's a Wondeful Life - Jimmy Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Wonderful_Life)
[4] Economist John Williams: Financial Collapse if Russia Sells U.S. Dollar Holdings (Greg Hunter) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LSHdkaCLOA)
[5] Lindsey Williams commenting on John Williams forecast (http://www.lindseywilliams.net/russian-dollar-dump-could-crash-financial-system/)
[6] Putin Targets America’s Achilles Heel: “He’s Going to Destroy the Stock Markets” (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/putin-targets-americas-achilles-heel-hes-going-to-destroy-the-stock-markets_03052014)
[7] Chaos, riots, looting as police go on strike in Argentine city (rt.com, December 2013) (http://rt.com/news/argentina-cordoba-looting-police-692/)
[8] Obama And Putin Are Trapped In A Macho Game Of “Chicken” And The Whole World Could Pay The Price (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/obama-and-putin-are-trapped-in-a-macho-game-of-chicken-and-the-whole-world-will-pay-the-price)
[9] The Grand Chess Board of World War III (Dave Hodges) (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/09/the-grand-chess-board-of-world-war-iii/)
[10] The Grand Chessboard of WWIII (Part Two) (Dave Hodges) (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/10/the-grand-chessboard-of-wwiii-part-two/)
[11] Putin Advisor Threatens With Dumping US Treasurys, Abandoning Dollar If US Proceeds With Sanctions (Zerohedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-04/putin-advisor-threatens-dumping-us-treasurys-abandoning-dollar-if-us-proceeds-sancti)
[12] China Sides With Russia On Sanctions; Ambassador Warns "Western Nations Would Be Hurting Themselves" (Zerohedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-07/china-sides-russia-sanctions-ambassador-warns-western-nations-would-be-hurting-thems))
[13] Mother Of All Meltdowns – Steve Quayle & Greg Evensen – Deliberate Destruction Of America (Steve Quayle) (http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2014/03/mother-of-all-meltdowns-steve-quayle-greg-evensen-deliberate-destruction-of-america-video-2445032.html)
[14] Ukraine Crisis: Just Another Globalist-Engineered Powder Keg (Brandon Smith, of alt-market.com) (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2028-ukraine-crisis-just-another-globalist-engineered-powder-keg)
[15] Executive Order -- Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine (US Whitehouse.gov, March 8, 2014) (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-blocking-property-certain-persons-contributing-situation)
[16] Obama declares economic war with China by executive order (Guerilla Media Network) (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/03/breaking-war-secretly-declared-on-china-by-executive-order-2913964.html)
[17] Obama Sanctions Russia With Executive Order ‘Blocking Property Of Certain Persons Contributing To The Situation In Ukraine’ (Pat Dollard) (http://patdollard.com/2014/03/obama-sanctions-russia-with-executive-order-blocking-property-of-certain-persons-contributing-to-the-situation-in-ukraine/)
[18] Russia Threatens to Impose Sanctions On U.S. Corporations (Infowars.com) (http://www.infowars.com/russia-threatens-to-impose-sanctions-on-u-s-corporations/)
[19] Internet Shills (Joseph P. Farrell) (http://gizadeathstar.com/2014/03/internet-shills/)
[20] Western spy agencies build ‘cyber magicians’ to manipulate online discourse (rt.com) (http://rt.com/news/five-eyes-online-manipulation-deception-564/)
[21] How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations (Glenn Greenwald) (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/)
[22] Expect A Hard Pullback Of U.S. Stock Market, Here's Why. (Gregory Mannarino) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNiRjewYbw)
[23] George Bush encouraging Americans to go to Disney, enjoy life, after 9/11 (http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010927-1.html)
Nota bene: all these referenced sources have feet of clay. They all get it wrong sometimes, seriously wrong sometimes. Well, perhaps I have hooves of gelatin, rather than feet of clay ... but the same caveat holds. Most of my doom & gloom forecasts over the years have failed absymally. Here's hoping that my track record continues.
superconsciousness
11th March 2014, 11:03
The "arrival of Superconsciousness" will throw a monkey wrench into the plans of the elite...the only question is when.
Hawkwind
11th March 2014, 13:26
Based on the data we have available, the scenario you describe certainly seems plausible if not probable. My inner voice, however, continually reassures me that I did not incarnate on this planet at this time just to helplessly watch it spin into perpetual darkness. In any case, it seems to me the best course of action is to envision the future you want to live in and work toward actualizing that reality.
Wind
11th March 2014, 14:10
The "arrival of Superconsciousness" will throw a monkey wrench into the plans of the elite...the only question is when.
I hope you arrive soon enough, dear superconsciousness.
Tyy1907
11th March 2014, 15:02
Based on the data we have available, the scenario you describe certainly seems plausible if not probable. My inner voice, however, continually reassures me that I did not incarnate on this planet at this time just to helplessly watch it spin into perpetual darkness. In any case, it seems to me the best course of action is to envision the future you want to live in and work toward actualizing that reality.
I got such an energy rush as I read your post Hawkwind. I totally agree that the other side of the coin is all of us rising up. Our positive stAr brothers will help us I feel as well. I don't know how I just feel they will/are. I went outside last night and the sky wAs so clear. I focussed on the star Arcturus and I definately felt their energy. I gave them my consent/asked for their help in my own spiritual development, so as I develop, I can help others. They're out there. They honor freewill and universal laws. If someone wants to connect, be sure to specify POSITIVES and to send out love. I got back a strong love presence. We can do this!
EC1000
11th March 2014, 15:03
Thanks for that, Paul. I hope you're wrong as well.
When I think about stuff like this, I always wonder, well, why haven't they done it already? They could always make up excuses to pull the trigger on WWIII and implement the NWO. I mean, why it didn’t happen after 9/11. If they want to pull the trigger, they would pull the trigger; I don't really believe they need the support of the people. But what do i know about this stuff? Not much, really.
As far as superconciousness intervening-that would be nice too but I don't know. I don't think anyone really understands god/ universe/ source or whatever certainly not me but one thing I believe (although it doesn't really give me any solace) is that EVERYTHING is a part of god (one term for ease), the "good", the "bad", etc, because in god's "eyes", there is no "good" or "bad", think of all of the atrocities god "allows" to happen, why would there be any intervention in us blowing ourselves up. Our souls will live on past this human experience. I'm sure other planets have blown themselves to bits before somewhere out in the superuniverses more than once. Other times asteroids smash into planets and demolish complete civilizations, again God "allows" it. Just has god has "allowed" the ETs reptilians, Cabal, Hitler, and all of the rest do what they have done. Who the heck really knows what the plan is. The best we can do (I think) is just love ourselves and one another as best as we can and not give into fear and anger because at the end of the day what will be will be.
ceetee9
11th March 2014, 15:37
Come on, don't hold back Paul. Why are you painting such a Rosy picture? ;)
Tyy1907
11th March 2014, 16:58
From an Administrator nonetheless :clap2:
jagman
11th March 2014, 17:09
From an Administrator nonetheless laugh
Can you elaborate on your statment?
Wizard Of Ozark
11th March 2014, 17:47
The "arrival of Superconsciousness" will throw a monkey wrench into the plans of the elite...the only question is when.
What is the basis of your belief in the "arrival of Superconsciousness"? I hold out a similar hope, but I'm not sure why. I've had the standard ahead-of-our-time premonitions for years... got the New Earth t-shirt and the synchronicity shot glass. Still, I wonder if it is just the mad trick of some sort of superior intelligence. Perhaps I should quit waiting on, and working toward, some sort of rapid emergence of mass superconsciousness and just "Enjoy every sandwich" as the late, great Warren Zevon advised. Not crazy about the picture the OP has painted, but it's par for the global golf course the creepy reality engineers are always busy building around us. What say you, Superconsciousness? Keep the faith or work on my tan?
(In all seriousness, I plan to "keep the faith", but I really would like to hear why you believe what you believe, SC. Any others here with similar sentiments and a rationale for them? Thanks!)
aheb
11th March 2014, 17:54
I don't believe that we can predict exactly what will take place. One of the terms that annoys me is "Black Swan" as in a black swan event, this is something that is defined
as entirely unpredictable, yet people use it on things which are following a completely predictable path. The real term should be Dragon King event. We do not know what will cause a collapse, but we can use a set of predictions to see where we are headed and how it will all play out. I think it could take quite a while. The first thing that will probably happen is the slow looting of people's wealth, pension funds etc, then we might see bank bail ins, people's savings confiscated. Then some big bank failures
I can't see a reason for war here.Really there needs to be some benefit, and there would be none, also Obama is talking of cutting the US military to world war two levels.
I think the US is more concerned about trouble within her own borders, hence the buying up of hollow nosed ammunition ( which cannot be use by the army anyway under the geneva convention) if you read Jim Rickards blog you will see that economic re sets are common, and also he does a video showing how China culd destroy the US by economics alone
http://jimrickards.blogspot.co.uk/
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GC_hAeFg-8
Cardillac
11th March 2014, 21:51
it never, EVER comes as we expect it-
Larry
DeDukshyn
11th March 2014, 22:50
The "arrival of Superconsciousness" will throw a monkey wrench into the plans of the elite...the only question is when.
I hope you arrive soon enough, dear superconsciousness.
Superconsciousness is asking for us to help start the process by each of us consciously trying to become superconscious. ;)
Froddo
11th March 2014, 23:29
Thank you Paul, for your detailed post.
On one hand I do think you're right. On the other I'm afraid that reality is more complex.
Several people (including me) think that in this moment, in this planet, coexist 4-5 parallel collective time-lines. Individually, all we move among them according to our vibrational level. Obviously, the future you're describing correspond to the darkest one. So...I we don't want such terrible future, the best we can do is to reinforce our personal work in order to increase our respective vibrational level. Reduce fear to the lowest possible level is essential. That will be our best contribution to our future.
As mentioned by Hawkwind above, I don't think I have incarnated to experience such a dark future, so... :-)
Thanks
Hawkwind
11th March 2014, 23:37
Our positive stAr brothers will help us I feel as well. I don't know how I just feel they will/are.
That's certainly a possibility, but I feel that part of evolving is learning to clean up our own mess.
When I think about stuff like this, I always wonder, well, why haven't they done it already?
The goal isn’t to pull the trigger. The goal is to hit the target and the target (in this case) is absolute and inescapable global domination. 9/11 went a long way toward setting up the infrastructure which would make that possible, ie- surveillance cameras on every street corner. Moreover, that and the subsequent false flag events have created a mind-set among the general populace which not only accepts ubiquitous surveillance as a necessary evil, but views it as an unquestioned good. The sheeple had to learn to love Big Brother.
EVERYTHING is a part of god (one term for ease), the "good", the "bad", etc, because in god's "eyes", there is no "good" or "bad", .
Okay, soapbox time. (Feel free to skip, if existential postulating isn’t your thing.) From my current level of understanding I don’t think this statement is quite accurate. As I mentioned in a recent post on another thread, the teachings on this subject that best correlate with my own understanding are from Baba Ram Dass. He talks about the zero, the one and the two. The zero is the undifferentiated ground of being, the formless void. The one is a single unified consciousness, god without attributes. The two is the world of duality which we experience as normal waking reality. From the perspective of the two, god is not both good and bad. There are good aspects of god and bad, masculine and feminine, creative and destructive. Yes, all of these aspects arise from the same undifferentiated source, but at that level the attributes don’t exist. At the level where attributes do exist (I believe) they exist separately.
Ram Dass also defines good as that which moves us toward union with god and bad (evil) as that which moves us toward separation. Therein lies the reason I feel making a distinction is warranted.
Our souls will live on past this human experience.
Yes, but lessons are repeated until learned. I don’t know about you, but I have no desire to go through this curriculum again.
The best we can do (I think) is just love ourselves and one another as best as we can and not give into fear and anger because at the end of the day what will be will be.
Well, yes- but unless free will is a complete illusion, our thoughts and actions at least partially determine what will be.
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2014, 00:15
These are perhaps the two key references from my opening post:
[17] Obama Sanctions Russia With Executive Order ‘Blocking Property Of Certain Persons Contributing To The Situation In Ukraine’ (Pat Dollard) (http://patdollard.com/2014/03/obama-sanctions-russia-with-executive-order-blocking-property-of-certain-persons-contributing-to-the-situation-in-ukraine/)
[11] Putin Advisor Threatens With Dumping US Treasurys, Abandoning Dollar If US Proceeds With Sanctions (Zerohedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-04/putin-advisor-threatens-dumping-us-treasurys-abandoning-dollar-if-us-proceeds-sancti)
I am almost certain that, once Russia and China openly dump US Treasuries and abandon the US Dollar, then the Western financial structures will collapse -- suffer major damage.
Most Americans will no longer think that "life is normal".
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2014, 00:31
On the other I'm afraid that reality is more complex.
Yes - beyond a doubt - reality is more complex.
As others have noted in the past, alerting to an oncoming train is not done to instill fear. It is done, in your words, "to reinforce our personal work in order to increase our respective vibrational level."
When one sees the train ahead of time and stands aside, and the train passes with little harm, that empowers us. We learn, once again, that we have the power to overcome or avoid such harm.
Roisin
12th March 2014, 00:33
Let's say that one is 99% certain the the current monetary system is going to crash BIG TIME where whatever money one has now in any shape or form will be worthless when that happens.
So let's say one instead decides to buy up supplies and goods that one can barter after the crash in order to survive? So my question is, what kind of things should one be stocking up on at this point in time to be able to barter in a market like that and still come out on top?
ghostrider
12th March 2014, 01:59
the only way to bring in a new world order is the current order must collapse ...
Selene
12th March 2014, 02:56
So. I’ve been metaphorically pacing the floor all day here, trying to come up with a coherent comment on your very astute analysis, Paul. And I must say that –along one very high probability timeline – you’ve got it knocked. Bingo. And damn. We could be down the tubes, and the NWO wins. Tyranny rules and we are droids – again - for the next 26,000 years.
Yes. This is entirely possible. We cannot discount this outcome.
But. However.
I keep hoping that the score is somehow actually tied here, and the Great Game is not over. We - the new humanity – are still players.
I keep looking at the unexpected lucky breaks, the unpredicted events: i.e. Edward Snowden emerges; Putin moves unexpectedly into Crimea; Syrian/Iranian war is rejected; researchers credibly dispute 9/11, the Boston bombing, Sandy Hook, etc; USS Enterprise (and other) false flags are aborted; US Senate suddenly furious about CIA snooping; etc etc. And maybe the public is slowly awakening to WTF? Alt Media is gaining ground.
And I keep hoping these are small but indicative breakthroughs in the matrix, lobs of the freemen back across the cosmic ‘net, which keep the game from breaking decisively in the NWO's favor.
Greater things have started from less. Their system is outdated and f*cked. Financial collapse is only a symptom of a much greater rot that they’d like us to believe is “all planned”. In reality, they’re running like scared rabbits at some level. Their own system – which they engineered – may be imploding on them.
Could be.
Yes, the collapse will rain on us all. Not fun.
But if we can keep clear heads and hearts, perhaps we can build the way forward in the next phase of the great cycle.
With much love and courage to all,
Selene
DeDukshyn
12th March 2014, 03:42
Let's say that one is 99% certain the the current monetary system is going to crash BIG TIME where whatever money one has now in any shape or form will be worthless when that happens.
So let's say one instead decides to buy up supplies and goods that one can barter after the crash in order to survive? So my question is, what kind of things should one be stocking up on at this point in time to be able to barter in a market like that and still come out on top?
Absolutely. We certainly are not just suddenly "all going to die". We'll just revert to simpler systems locally and within ourselves. No one needs their systems at all. My 2 cents ;)
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2014, 06:43
So let's say one instead decides to buy up supplies and goods that one can barter after the crash in order to survive? So my question is, what kind of things should one be stocking up on at this point in time to be able to barter in a market like that and still come out on top?
That will vary ... depending on one's situation and talents.
A gardener in northern Minnesota will have a different stockpile than a computer nerd in Texas.
In either case, variety is probably a good idea - we can't predict exactly what sequence of calamities we will face. Look for alternative ways to meet one's basic food, energy, clothing, shelter, water, etc needs. Anticipate that trade will become more local, rather than bringing in all our food, energy and stuff in containers from across some ocean. Anticipate that if you hold some savings in paper or electronic form, or as promised payments (such as a retirement fund, rental income on a property, social benefits such as Social Security or Medicare, ...) then these promises may lose purchasing power, perhaps dramatically, perhaps totally.
Get out of debt if possible. The banksters have a habit of losing your savings more often than they lose your loan papers. When push comes to shove, they will consider your mortgaged house and your car with its lien as their property, which they have a corporate fiduciary responsibility to foreclose on and repossess, to make their ends meet. Never mind that you're homeless with no wheels.
Minimize essential cash flow as well. Tally up where your money goes each month and look for ways to reduce what you have to spend to "keep going".
It is certainly the case that the promised benefits, savings and retirement funding to Americans exceeds the wealth available. We can't all have a car in every garage and a turkey in every oven, if there are substantially fewer cars, garages, turkeys and ovens than there are people.
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2014, 10:25
Aha - one more small light bulb just lit up for me.
Gold:
I have been following the precious metals (gold, silver and mining stocks) markets for a couple of decades now. The one newsletter that I still pay good money for is Jim Willie's Hat Trick Letter, available on his GoldenJackass.com (http://goldenjackass.com/main5.html) website.
A dominant message of Jim Willie, confirmed by many other financial sites and commentators, is that gold is moving from the US to the China, Russia and the far east.
Those of us who read of the past history of gold, money, finances and power on this planet observe that such movement of gold is an indicator of the move of the main power base of the dominant powers on earth. Joseph P. Farrell documents some of this in his recent book Financial Vipers of Venice: Alchemical Money, Magical Physics, and Banking in the Middle Ages and Renaissance (http://amzn.com/1936239736), as power moved from Venice through Spain, and Holland to London, then in the last century to New York and Washington.
The movement of gold out of the US (ongoing for the last couple of decades, apparently) is one more key indicator that the US is being taken down ... gold has been a powerful symbol of national dominance for thousands of years.
Drugs:
Other signs of the decline and fall of the US dominance are evident as well. Turkey plays a key role in the transport of drugs (heroin and other such opiates) from Afghanistan to Europe and the US. If and when Turkey re-aligns more with Russia, leaves NATO, closes the US air bases there and breaks that link in shipping drugs, that will be another big hit to US dominance. Currently the US drug trade is one of its main sources of off-book cash flow.
Military:
Obama is cutting the US Military budget as well. See for example Pentagon Plans to Shrink Army to Pre-World War II Level (NY Times; Feb 23, 2014) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/us/politics/pentagon-plans-to-shrink-army-to-pre-world-war-ii-level.html)
Manufacturing:
US Manufacturing dominance, following World War II, after the US military bombed every one else's factories out of existence, was unsurpassed. Now that is long past, and the once greatest manufacturing city in the world, Detroit, Michigan (http://ce.cal.msu.edu/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/detroit-ruins.jpg), would now be an embarrassment to the typical third world nation.
These are all more signs that the US is being taken down. Behold the Decline and Fall of the American Empire.
However ... that does not mean that the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, ...) nations are the new power base of the planet's elite for the coming century.
Rather I am anticipating that the new power base will be based on global technology integration and dominance.
The Internet, world wide shipping, world wide full spectrum dominance and surveillance, and now the trial runs of Internet based money, which began with CIA employee Bitcoin founder Satoshi Nakamoto's (http://www.cnet.com/news/bitcoin-founder-satoshi-nakamoto-discovered-in-california/) efforts, ... these are all forming the post-national phase of human history.
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2014, 10:43
... these are all forming the post-national phase of human history.
If Joseph P. Farrell is right in his high octane speculations, the game is no longer nation versus nation, humans versus humans on this planet earth.
Rather the game is humans versus other intelligent species, aka aliens, many if not most of them with power bases off world.
The high technology required to compete with such beings, and now available (in black projects) from such beings, is too dangerous to be allowed open use in inter-human conflicts. Turning planet earth into another asteroid belt may defeat your enemy, but it is self-defeating as well, even for the über powerful human elite who might have been funding both sides of the conflict.
The name of the game is changing, from inter-national power struggles to inter-species power struggles.
Once the elite are confident that they have control of humanity, and all rogue nations and power groups have been eliminated or assimilated, then they can risk more open use of the extreme technology that is now only known inside black projects. Until then, physics, math, science, medicine and nutrition are being sidetracked in cul-de-sacs.
gripreaper
12th March 2014, 15:27
The name of the game is changing, from inter-national power struggles to inter-species power struggles.
Once the elite are confident that they have control of humanity, and all rogue nations and power groups have been eliminated or assimilated, then they can risk more open use of the extreme technology that is now only known inside black projects. Until then, physics, math, science, medicine and nutrition are being sidetracked in cul-de-sacs.
Agree. The notion of "Nation States" has always just been a meme to foist on the humans, as the elite have always seen the world globally as their own private asset. To change the Nation-State meme and "sell" a new globalist meme to the populace would require some kind of outside fear based threat (from extraterrestrials) in order to justify the large military industrial complex and the hidden development of the stellar black-ops projects (for national security of course :)).
They could easily sell us the idea that they "had" to keep extraterrestrial life from us and develop technology in secret because of the nature of the extraterrestrial threat, and it was done in our best interest because they "care" so much about us...blah, blah, blah...
Then, the control would remain unified under the same global debt based monetary system, the only difference being the elimination of all tangible means of exchange and going to strictly digital exchange which can be fully tracked, monitored, centralized, controlled, and manipulated.
In other words, tow the line or we turn off your chip and you can no longer buy or sell to provide for your basic needs. You will become a vagabond in society if you resist and all of your peers will know what a scumbag you are and will reject you.
And most will fall for it. My only hope is that the small remnant of souls who see this coming will be able to speak up and steer the outcome to a more favorable timeline. That would be you and me Paul.
I think the notion that power is moving away from the west to the east, and the gold is the source and movement of that power, is fallacious, and that the BRIC opposition to a One World digital system does not and will not have the traction to go up against the existing elite power structure which has been in place for millenia and is tied to extraterrestrial power.
Sure, the elite want to scale back their corporate investment in the west and balance it more to the east, but it's not about nation states. It's more about just making a business decision to retool.
Dennis Leahy
12th March 2014, 17:19
What I see coming (unless by some intervention the dark forces dominant over human history for at least the last few millenia lose control):
...
I think your logic is solid, Paul. My emotions want to override the logic. I want the unknown, a "wildcard" to enter the equation and tip it in humanity's balance. The issue is control/kontrol (think of the "K" in MKULTRA.) That's why I have put the effort into "The Reset Button", as it would be a wildcard that interrupts the control pathways.
I'm not naive enough to believe that The Reset Button would remove all of the hidden Global Rulers' control mechanisms, but control over the public face of the US government (currently but a puppet show) would take away a lot of their overt toys and playground bullying capabilities.
If Joseph P. Farrell is right in his high octane speculations, the game is no longer nation versus nation, humans versus humans on this planet earth.
Rather the game is humans versus other intelligent species, aka aliens, many if not most of them with power bases off world.
The high technology required to compete with such beings, and now available (in black projects) from such beings, is too dangerous to be allowed open use in inter-human conflicts. Turning planet earth into another asteroid belt may defeat your enemy, but it is self-defeating as well, even for the über powerful human elite who might have been funding both sides of the conflict.
The name of the game is changing, from inter-national power struggles to inter-species power struggles.
Once the elite are confident that they have control of humanity, and all rogue nations and power groups have been eliminated or assimilated, then they can risk more open use of the extreme technology that is now only known inside black projects. Until then, physics, math, science, medicine and nutrition are being sidetracked in cul-de-sacs.
I do wonder about Farrell's logic on this. It doesn't make sense to me that malevolent non-Earth species would wait on the sidelines until humanity had a big enough flyswatter to swat them. I'm guessing the alien-folk probably do NOT abide by the Marquess of Queensberry Rules. If they wanted our asses kicked, we would already have bruised asses - even the malevolent ones that supposedly live on/under Earth and/or zip around in inter-dimensional quasi-metallic Frisbees must have a use for us or we'd already be compost.
Now, it does make sense to me that human (I use that term loosely in this case) Global Controllers may very well use the false flag notion of "malevolent" alien life as an excuse to huddle together under the NWO umbrella.
Dennis
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2014, 18:00
What I see coming (unless by some intervention the dark forces dominant over human history for at least the last few millenia lose control):
Economic collapse in the US and Europe (and many places elsewhere) for the next 2 to 4 years
Then serious risk of World War III between NATO and China/Russia.
Then New World Order economically, politically, financially, monetarily, ...
The name of the game is changing, from inter-national power struggles to inter-species power struggles.
Once the elite are confident that they have control of humanity, and all rogue nations and power groups have been eliminated or assimilated, then they can risk more open use of the extreme technology that is now only known inside black projects. Until then, physics, math, science, medicine and nutrition are being sidetracked in cul-de-sacs.
Agree. The notion of "Nation States" has always just been a meme to foist on the humans, as the elite have always seen the world globally as their own private asset. To change the Nation-State meme and "sell" a new globalist meme to the populace would require some kind of outside fear based threat (from extraterrestrials) in order to justify the large military industrial complex and the hidden development of the stellar black-ops projects (for national security of course :)).
They could easily sell us the idea that they "had" to keep extraterrestrial life from us and develop technology in secret because of the nature of the extraterrestrial threat, and it was done in our best interest because they "care" so much about us...blah, blah, blah...
Aha - that's what the scenario I posted in the opening post of this thread was missing - the alien threat!
Step 2 should not be "World War III between NATO and China/Russia"
Rather Step 2 should be "Alien Invasion" (no real Aliens need apply)
Such provides, as you observe, far better motivation for world wide cooperative focus on advanced technology and military development (and suppression of any nations, people or organizations that aren't cooperating).
Roisin
12th March 2014, 18:02
Paul, thanks for your reply to my questions, your suggestions and your insights. This is a very informative thread and I'm going to have some of my family members and friends look over this information too as a way to prepare for what very well may coming up next. In this case, it's definitely best to err on the side of caution and do everything necessary to be prepared for any possible upcoming worse case scenario. That, for sure, is always the best approach.
ThePythonicCow
12th March 2014, 18:07
I do wonder about Farrell's logic on this. It doesn't make sense to me that malevolent non-Earth species would wait on the sidelines until humanity had a big enough flyswatter to swat them. I'm guessing the alien-folk probably do NOT abide by the Marquess of Queensberry Rules. If they wanted our asses kicked, we would already have bruised asses - even the malevolent ones that supposedly live on/under Earth and/or zip around in inter-dimensional quasi-metallic Frisbees must have a use for us or we'd already be compost.
Now, it does make sense to me that human (I use that term loosely in this case) Global Controllers may very well use the false flag notion of "malevolent" alien life as an excuse to huddle together under the NWO umbrella.
Dennis
I doubt that it's the aliens who are pulling their punches ... for the reasons you offer.
Rather I expect that it's the (supposedly human) bastards in power on this planet who are gearing up for a major jail break from this prison planet ... getting ready to go kick some serious butt off planet, with us serfs manning the oars and below deck.
... not a very nice way to introduce ourselves to our neighbors.
Carmody
12th March 2014, 18:26
As my understanding of the situation evolved, it tended to show me that after an approximate 'IQ' of about 250 (in human terms), there is no reason to be physical, ie no reason to be in this particular 'multi-axis* integrated 2d fields.. turned to 3d holographic' expression, this bubble of an angle-view of dimensional energy expression. (*this axis appears in the 3d matrix of view, not outside of it)
That..the only reason to be here, is if a given group of individuals, loosely defined as a 'race' or group of beings of similar genetic avatar design, if that group of being utilizing their particular avatars as a viewpoint in and of existence...that this given group is locked into a spiral or non-growth aspect, and has remained animalistic. Ie, killer-eat-destroy-self types, locked into a loop of some sort. Or, they've taken a bad turn in their evolution, or, they are purposely frozen, by themselves, or someone else.
The second group, would be altruistic, and protective of others, or non-interfering in their views and acts. Both of this type are well enabled and capable of protecting themselves, otherwise they would eventually encounter the first type, and 'cease to be'.
as we get up into the (again, human terms) the higher IQ's of 120-140-160, etc, the ability to understand not just the 'human' (subjective/art/love/creative/etc) side of this matrix of reality, we can also understand the objective or mechanistic side of it. The art of manipulation of the fabric, the understanding of what it is.
That it is an information matrix, where what we call noise, thermal noise, Gaussian noise, Brownian noise, etc..all of that is a soup of manipulable energetics. That patterns and energies that underlie the fabric is a consideration of energetic alignments, geometric alignments, vibration, resonance, geometry,and intelligence. That it is alive.
Which means, there is
One type: The eater, the consumer of all, the objectivist thing of a machine like destroyer.
Second type: the protector AND the observer type (non-interfering)
And, the third type: The one who is growing, coming into being.
Humans appear to be, at this time... type number three, overall. With some far ahead, some further back in this development path, and various individual and groups moving in different directions.
And then.....what seems to be surrounding us, types one (highly organized, low thought, war/military/strict systems), and two (protectors, and those who try to warn and help in other ways).
the indications are, via using hypnosis on our dual layered selves, as humans.... that we are in some way 'frozen' and purposely so, as part of a game. Our own miniature version of a breakout game.
we could be in an incubator, with seagulls circling and they not being allowed in until we reach a certain level of knowing and being.
Some think we are quarantined, some think we are protected. Hard to say, but the evidence points to some blend of both, based on the original point, the one of being an incubator of a sort.
Perhaps that has to do with the PTB types scrambling to gain parity with ET. To protect us if the evolution reaches a certain level, meaning the sciences developing and being widespread on the earth, at the very least.
My problem with that sort of scenario, is that protection and non-interference would have no way of preventing or involving itself with internal matters of the planet earth's more 'elitist' types using the mass of the people of the earth as a launch pad into the universe, and do it on the charred bones of their own group of incarnates.
Ron Mauer Sr
13th March 2014, 02:04
If we are to be our own saviors, then non-violent *civil disobedience* while the control freaks remain in charge is the only long term option we have.
The control freaks will use physical and emotional pain to achieve their objective of world domination, Agenda 21, debt slavery of whoever remains after planned depopulation. To dull the effectiveness of their tactics and reduce influence of their control:
Simplify lifestyle.
Get out of debt as much as possible.
Stock up on dehydrated food (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=736), Mason jars (for vacuum sealed dehydrated food) and non-electric vacuum sealers (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=2705).
Without electricity, where is your unlimited source of clean water (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=178)? If the water is not clean, where is your filter? How far will you need to haul water? Create a workable water plan.
Small local communities are needed for sharing skills, resources and self defense.
Get your money and paper resources out of the system. If you cannot touch it, it will belong to someone else.
If there is any money left after prepping, consider the purchase gold or silver to preserve wealth. But remember that precious metals will not purchase food if grocery stores are closed. When the current financial system is replaced by whatever comes next, is when precious metals will be of most value.
Consider the benefits of hiding your resources in diverse locations outside of your home. Make sure locations are *not* common knowledge within your community if you expect visits from unfriendly people.
Purchase non-hybrid vegetable seeds.
Plant fruit trees if you have space.
Prepare garden beds that can be worked without power tools. Create fertile garden beds now while resources are available. Do so whether a garden is planned for this season or later.
Purchase or build a solar food dehydrator (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=2383).
Purchase or build a composting or sawdust toilet (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=216). Only needed if you have clean water and food. Stock up on soap, it is not expensive.
If these issues are too uncomfortable to address,
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Then turn on the TV and wait for an invitation to visit a local government run community center to be “processed”.
We should not expect the cavalry (ETs, religious figures, world leaders, etc.) to come and save us. We must take responsibility for our own choices. This is our adventure, our opportunity to learn from the choices we make.
Ron Mauer Sr
13th March 2014, 02:17
This video is an interview with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and former editor of the Wall Street Journal.
Topics discussed include a real look at the economy, precious metals, Ukraine strategies and importance, and more.
I think it is an excellent interview. Always admire his analysis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhxZxL56B00
Ron Mauer Sr
13th March 2014, 02:47
Four very short articles and excellent analysis of what the control freaks may have planned for us in the next couple of years.
The establishment of the Green Police State is the key step in the domestication objectives of the super elite. More (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/02/12/the-green-police-state-is-the-prelude-to-genocide/)
Which False Flag Event Will Be Used to Usher In Martial Law? More (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/12/which-false-flag-event-will-be-used-to-usher-in-martial-law/)
The Grand Chessboard of WWIII. More (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/10/the-grand-chessboard-of-wwiii-part-two/)
The Course of World War III. More (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/11/the-course-of-world-war-iii/)
Thanks for links Roxanne.
Tesseract
13th March 2014, 03:34
Paul do you really think Russia dumping its bonds would achieve anything? Yields are pathetic so there is room for some absorption, the great bond collapse of 2013 never happened, and Russia only has a $138B investment according to:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt
The Fed not long ago was buying $85b a month in debt, wouldn't they just buy their own treasuries if the dump came? Or, rather than there being a fundamental problem with a Russian bond sale, do you see them (TPTB) using such a move as an excuse to do something that is not really necessary?
ThePythonicCow
13th March 2014, 13:48
Paul do you really think Russia dumping its bonds would achieve anything? Yields are pathetic so there is room for some absorption, the great bond collapse of 2013 never happened, and Russia only has a $138B investment according to:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt
The Fed not long ago was buying $85b a month in debt, wouldn't they just buy their own treasuries if the dump came? Or, rather than there being a fundamental problem with a Russian bond sale, do you see them (TPTB) using such a move as an excuse to do something that is not really necessary?
If the bond and foreign exchange markets were essentially honest and if they were not immensely leveraged by interest rate derivatives, and if it was just Russia dumping its relatively small stash of US Treasuries, then you're probably right in suspecting it would not be an "End of the financial world as we know it."
The problems come with China joining in the Treasury selling as they hold an enormous stash of them, and with the resulting rise in US Treasury interest rates, and with the resulting acceleration of the trend to abandon the US Dollar for international trade settlement and petroleum purchases. Major shifts in either interest rates or foreign exchange (currency) rates would cause a substantial portion of over a quadrillion of interest rate and forex derivatives to "blow up", which would cause some seriously bankrupt major banks to "blow up". It would also cause a serious decline in imports to the US, or rise in their Dollar pricing, as exporters to the US no longer wanted to accept the currency risk.
Yes - the Fed could print Dollars to buy back rejected Treasuries - but businesses and individuals cannot print Dollars to cover the Dollar price increases of their imports, and some big banks cannot survive in a higher interest rate environment.
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/unstable-finance-28783437.jpg
ThePythonicCow
13th March 2014, 13:53
The economic thunder clouds continue to gather on the horizon. In rt.com a few hours ago: Russia won't exclude sanctions to counter US and EU - Ministry (http://rt.com/business/russia-us-eu-sanctions-546/):
Russia is ready to retaliate with counter sanctions against the EU and US if they go ahead with economic measures against Russia over tension in Crimea, the Russian Economic Ministry has said.
"We hope that there will only be targeted political sanctions, and not a broad package affecting economic trade,” Deputy Economic Development Minister Aleksey Likhachev said.
“Our sanctions will be, of course, similar,” he added.
One way Russia plans on shielding itself from pending sanctions (http://rt.com/business/us-eu-russia-sanctions-590/) is by boosting trade in other currencies, not the US dollar.
“We need to increase trade volume conducted in national currencies. Why, in relation to China, India, Turkey and other countries, should we be negotiating in dollars? Why should we do that? We should sign deals in national currencies- this applies to energy, oil, gas, and everything else,” Alexey Ulyukaev, the Minister of Economic Development said in an interview with the Vesti 24 TV Channel.
The Duma, Russia’s parliament, is drafting legislation to allow Moscow to freeze assets of Western companies and individuals in the event sanctions are imposed following the Crimea referendum (http://rt.com/news/crimea-referendum-russia-march-702/) vote on March 16.
The bill would give “the president and government opportunities to defend our sovereignty from threats,” according to its author, Andrey Klishas, as quoted by RIA Novosti on March 5.
The US Congress has already denounced Russia’s actions in Ukraine. On Tuesday, lawmakers passed a resolution that urges the US to “to work with our European allies and other countries to impose visa, financial, trade and other sanctions on senior Russian Federation officials, majority state-owned banks and commercial organizations, and other state agencies, as appropriate.”
Earlier this week the European Union threatened to impose further sanctions on Russia starting on March 17, after the referendum in Crimea takes place on Sunday.
The decision on sanctions was made, “especially on the procedure of introducing sanctions,” Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk said. “The consequence of this will be the start of sanctions on Monday,” he added.
However, China’s ambassador to Germany Shi Mingde, warns of the global economic affect sanctions against Russia could hold. Mingde said the geo-political tiff between Russia and the West could “spiral” into chaos.
President Putin and the foreign ministry have both said sanctions (http://rt.com/business/us-eu-russia-sanctions-590/) against Russia could backfire, and spill over into the global economy.
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denounced any Western-led sanctions as “hasty and ill-considered”, and President Putin said squeezing economically would cause “mutual damage”.
If extreme Iran-style sanctions are imposed on Russian exports, the EU would be much more exposed than the US.
Europe imports nearly one third of its gas from resource-rich Russia, and some countries are completely dependent on Russian gas.
While the US and Russia trade very little, Russia is Europe’s biggest customer, and the $13 trillion economy would suffer if trade with Russia was halted overnight.
aheb
13th March 2014, 20:32
I would like to make a point about war. I don't see this on the horizon but I do believe that the war that we may have will not be the war that others envisage. A coupe of months back, maybe a year a US drone was downed by Iran, the US said it was shot down, but on russia today we could see it was "hacked into" and landed, we then see the problems with Syria and we see the SEA " the Syrian Electtric Army hacking into the Marines website. Also consider an Iranian warship has sailed close to the USA ,although no one is reporting this now, just in range to launch a tactical nuclear airburst strike which will act like a coronal mass ejection, a huge magnetic wave wich will shut down all electrical systems in the US......for a country poor on wealth but rich in education and brains this would seem the way to go.
Without wishing to appear rascist I acknowledge that certain races have gifts......didn't Steve Jobbs invent windows then sell it to bill gates ( and he was an adopted child of Syrian stock).maybe we face a different future than we expect?
Tesseract
14th March 2014, 01:06
I agree that if China sells all its bonds in a hurry then there will be a major economic upheaval that may cause a social upheaval - some of the consequences we can probably guess, others we probably can't. However, I just don't see it happening that way. The bonds were bought as a sovereign investment and if they dumped them with little more than a market order they'd lose a tremendous amount of money. It's also a trick they can only play once, and they risk looking extremely stupid if their alleged objective is not achieved. Also, I think it's very easy to underestimate the amount of latent wealth in the US. But, most of all, I just don't see the Chinese government as being hell-bent on causing the USA to degrade into a grossly failed state - I think that is conservative paranoia. I'm not saying that is what you necessarily mean to imply, but certainly that is the picture that emerges when you listen to a lot of alternative commentators. Maybe China would sell for no other reason than that they didn't want to be left holding the bag, but a that would require an extraordinary loss of confidence.
I think the prospect of a managed bond sale (not exactly a dump, but a sale that sends a political message) by Russia is more plausible, given the current trouble regarding Ukraine, with China not getting drawn in economically.
On the subject of derivatives, the power of a derivatives crash to affect the underlying is pretty difficult to understand and therefore predict, if there is a volatility spike, one thing that will happen is a large number of new derivatives will be created that increase in value when interest rates rise. If all financial hell does break loose, then badly managed banks with exposure may go down, while others will make a fortune. I don't understand the detail of US bank regulation - so I don't know how realistic it is to expect account holders to lose their savings should their bank take a loss in its investing arm. However, I do tend to lean towards a scenario where 'the system' in the US weathers the storm with a fair degree of stoicism.
Tyy1907
14th March 2014, 03:01
From an Administrator nonetheless laugh
Can you elaborate on your statment?
It struck me as a doom and gloom kind of synopsis, was razzing him a bit.
ThePythonicCow
14th March 2014, 04:06
I think the prospect of a managed bond sale (not exactly a dump, but a sale that sends a political message) by Russia is more plausible, given the current trouble regarding Ukraine, with China not getting drawn in economically.
Good points. I partially agree. Even if China did intend to "nuke" the US Treasury market, it likely wouldn't detonate all its explosives (sell all its Treasuries) at once. It could do a pretty nasty job just selling some of them, especially with the right public statements, while still holding onto some of them for further potential leverage over a distressed US and any other party entangled in such markets.
On the subject of derivatives, the power of a derivatives crash to affect the underlying is pretty difficult to understand and therefore predict, if there is a volatility spike, one thing that will happen is a large number of new derivatives will be created that increase in value when interest rates rise. If all financial hell does break loose, then badly managed banks with exposure may go down, while others will make a fortune. I don't understand the detail of US bank regulation - so I don't know how realistic it is to expect account holders to lose their savings should their bank take a loss in its investing arm. However, I do tend to lean towards a scenario where 'the system' in the US weathers the storm with a fair degree of stoicism.
It's not clear to me how some banks would make a fortune ... being on the winning side of a big time bet only pays off if the loser pays up.
Derivatives, to my (limited) understanding are rather like swimmers in the open ocean tying themselves together. If one gets weak, the others can hold that one up. But ... if most of them get weak and some start to thrash and drown, all are threatened. It becomes like a bigger forest fire, thanks to having put out many smaller fires (and thusly saved up more flammable material.)
The sequence I have in mind is not that a derivatives failure (say in interest rate swaps) then directly causes a failure in the underlying security (say a rapid rise in interest rates.)
Rather I have in mind that a failure in the underlying security (say large sales of US Treasuries) causes a derivatives failure, which in turn causes some major Western financial institutions to melt down, with a consequent bank holiday, and some less than "voluntary" contributions by bank depositors and/or tax sheltered retirement funds to the solvency of the United States.
One by one, the sources of strength in the US have been undermined. It may now be easier to over estimate the amount of latent wealth in the US than to underestimate it. In my view, this undermining is deliberate and has been ongoing for decades.
Over the centuries, the bastards in power have moved from Venice to London to New York (and other places.) It seems to me that they are on the move again. Only this time, I do not think they are moving to Beijing or Moscow ... rather those power centers are just convenient transient counter-balances to US hegemony. Rather said bastards are now moving to "Planet Earth" as their power base, thanks to the technology installed planet wide in recent times.
T Smith
14th March 2014, 04:28
Paul do you really think Russia dumping its bonds would achieve anything? Yields are pathetic so there is room for some absorption, the great bond collapse of 2013 never happened, and Russia only has a $138B investment according to:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt
The Fed not long ago was buying $85b a month in debt, wouldn't they just buy their own treasuries if the dump came? Or, rather than there being a fundamental problem with a Russian bond sale, do you see them (TPTB) using such a move as an excuse to do something that is not really necessary?
I think you're right about this. The Fed could absorb Russia's temper tantrum. The concern, however, is if Russia's defiance spills over to China (which China has warned about as well). If China begins to dump the dollar, in allegiance with Russia, then the Fed might lose control of it. My guess is this would hurt China, a lot... but they have been quietly amassing gold now for a number of years and may be ready to amputate one of their limbs to be free of the shackle.
jackovesk
14th March 2014, 05:02
For what its worth...
Russia dumping its bonds would achieve anything?
Not really & that's not how Russia & China will pull the pin the US Economy...
China plans decades in advance for contingencies such as this
China can afford to dump the Petro $USD anytime they like, so can Russia
China has built in a lot of flexibility into their planning for exactly these economic contingencies
Russia don't have to use the $USD to sell their (Abiotic Oil)
What I am alluding to is, both China & Russia can pull the pin on the US Economy anytime they like...:yes4:
The $85 Billion QE3 (Ongoing) is like trying pouring water into a (Sinking Boat) full of holes, its (Collapse) is inevitable...
Funnily enough, the (US Economy is (Screwed) any which way you look at it (By Design) of course...
What the laden US Cabal had not counted on, was the rest of (Europe & the World) finding out what they were up to...
So effectively no matter what happens with any kind of ($USD Reset) it won't be effecting Russia & China as much as some may think...:nono:
ThePythonicCow
14th March 2014, 12:54
The economic thunder clouds continue to gather on the horizon. In rt.com a few hours ago: Russia won't exclude sanctions to counter US and EU - Ministry (http://rt.com/business/russia-us-eu-sanctions-546/)
Well, as the Russian government continues to escalate the war of financial tension words from one side, the American government does so from the other side: John Kerry: Russia has until Monday to reverse course in Ukraine (http://washingtonexaminer.com/john-kerry-russia-has-until-monday-to-reverse-course-in-ukraine/article/2545610):
Secretary of State John Kerry warned of serious repercussions for Russia on Monday if last-ditch talks over the weekend to resolve the crisis in Ukraine failed to persuade Moscow to soften its stance.
Kerry will travel to London for a Friday meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov ahead of a Sunday referendum vote in the Crimea region to secede from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation.
U.S. and European officials argue that Moscow is orchestrating the referendum and waging an intimidation campaign with thousands of Russian troops controlling the region. If Russian-backed lawmakers in Crimea go through with the Sunday referendum, Kerry said the U.S. and its European allies will not recognize it as legitimate under international law.
The U.S. and Europe on Monday would then unite to impose sanctions on Russia, Kerry told a Senate Appropriations subcommittee Thursday during a hearing on the State Department's budget.
“There will be a response of some kind to the referendum itself,” Kerry said. “If there is no sign [from Russia] of any capacity to respond to this issue ... there will be a very serious series of steps on Monday.”
“Our hope is to have Russia join in respecting international law. ... There is no justification, no legality to this referendum that is taking place,” he said. “The hope is that reason will prevail but there is no guarantee of that.”
Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and a top critic of President Obama's foreign policy, asked what the administration would do if Russian forces advance farther into the eastern area of Ukraine, and the new government in Kiev asks the U.S. for weapons to fight the Russians.
Kerry responded carefully, saying “we have contingencies – we are talking through various options that may or may not be available.”
“Our hope is not to create hysteria or excessive concern about that at this point in time,” he said. “Our hope is to avoid that, but there's no telling that we can.”
U.S. authorities are closely monitoring the number of Russian troops in Crimea, as well as their movements, he said, noting that Moscow is allowed to have a total of 25,000 troops in Crimea.
He said that currently Russia does not have the assets positioned to “march in and take over all of Ukraine but that could change and we recognize that.”
“I've been impressed on how united our European allies are on this… to a person, to a country, they are very, very committed to make sure there is accountability,” he said.
Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat who was chairing the hearing, asked how this showdown with Russia in Ukraine is impacting efforts to destroy Syria's chemical weapons stockpile.
When Obama threatened to make good on his red-line threat to Syrian leader Bashar Assad, Russia helped avert U.S. military strikes by offering to step in and negotiate arrangements to have Damascus destroy its chemical weapons.
Kerry said Russia had been helpful in pushing Syria on tighter deadlines for locating, moving and destroying its stockpile, but considering the crisis in Crimea, their cooperation going forward is an open question.
“Now there's a question mark about where that's going to go,” he said.
ThePythonicCow
14th March 2014, 13:07
And the third key player in this, China, chimes in on the side of Russia in this escalating war of financial tensions: China Warns West Not To Enforce Sanctions Against Russia (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/china-warns-west-not-enforce-sanctions-against-russia):
"Sanctions could lead to retaliatory action, and that would trigger a spiral with unforeseeable consequences," warns China's envoy to Germany adding that "we don't see any point in sanctions." On the heels of Merkel's warning that Russia risked "massive" political and economic damage if it did not change course, Reuters reports ambassador Shi Mingde urged patience saying "the door is still open" for diplomacy (though we suspect it is not) ahead of this weekend's referendum. Russia's Deputy Economy Minister Alexei Likhachev responded by promising "symmetrical" sanctions by Moscow. So now we have China joining the fray more aggressively.
via Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/13/us-ukraine-crisis-china-idUSBREA2C0PB20140313),
China's top envoy to Germany has warned the West against punishing Russia with sanctions for its intervention in Ukraine, saying such measures could lead to a dangerous chain reaction that would be difficult to control. In an interview with Reuters days before the European Union is threatening to impose its first sanctions on Russia since the Cold War, ambassador Shi Mingde issued the strongest warning against such measures by any top Chinese official to date.
"We don't see any point in sanctions," Shi said. "Sanctions could lead to retaliatory action, and that would trigger a spiral with unforeseeable consequences. We don't want this."
...Using her [Merkel's] toughest rhetoric since the crisis began, she warned in a speech in parliament on Thursday that Russia risked "massive" political and economic damage if it did not change course in the coming days.
Russia's Deputy Economy Minister Alexei Likhachev responded by promising "symmetrical" sanctions by Moscow. But Shi urged patience, saying the door for talks should remain open even after a referendum on Sunday in which Ukraine's southern region of Crimea could vote to secede and join Russia. Merkel and other western leaders have denounced the referendum as illegal and demanded that it be canceled.
"We still see a chance to avoid an escalation. The door to talks is still open. We should use this possibility, also after the referendum," Shi said.
After the Referendum, so when Russia is already in control. More importantly, China joins the fray with threats over West's sanctions. Perhaps BTFWWIIID will make a re-appearance any minute now.
ThePythonicCow
14th March 2014, 13:30
The US Military is cranking up the threats as well: Chairman Of Joint Chiefs: US Ready For "Military Response" In Ukraine (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-12/chairman-joint-chiefs-staff-us-ready-military-response-ukraine):
With diplomacy having failed miserably to resolve the Russian annexation of Crimea, and soon East Ukraine (and with John Kerry in charge of it, was there ever any doubt), the US is moving to the heavy artillery. First, moments ago, the US DOE announced in a shocking announcement that it would proceed with the first draw down and sale of crude from the US strategic petroleum reserve, the first since June 2011, in what it said was a "test sale to check the operational capabilities of system infrastructure", but is really just a shot across the bow at Putin for whom high commodity prices are orders of magnitude more important than how the Russian stock market performs. And now, as Bloomberg just reported, the US has escalated even further, citing the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, who "has claimed that in the case of an escalation of unrest in Crimea, the U.S. Army is ready to back up Ukraine and its allies in Europe with military actions."
http://http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/03/gen%20dempsey.jpg
So much for those peaceful hour long phone calls between Obama and Putin.
There is more at the above link.
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It looks to me as if something like the following is unfolding:
this Sunday's Eastern Ukraine referendum to join Russia will pass,
Russian troops will move into Eastern Ukraine, taking it to once again be part of Russia, and
the US, its allies and sock puppet government in Western Ukraine will portray this as a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Then the above war of financial tension will escalate, each side claiming full justification in the dastardly deeds of the other side.
As Gregory Mannarino said at the end of trading yesterday (when the US stock markets fell sharply) ALERT: U.S. Stock Market Takes Heavy Losses Today, It's Not Over Yet. (Youtube video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl7Aef59rCE)
ThePythonicCow
14th March 2014, 13:37
It looks to me as if something like the following is unfolding:
this Sunday's Eastern Ukraine referendum to join Russia will pass,
Russian troops will move into Eastern Ukraine, taking it to once again be part of Russia, and
the US, its allies and sock puppet government in Western Ukraine will portray this as a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
A couple mores piece of this puzzle click into place.
US steps up Crimea referendum attacks as Ukraine PM visits White House (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/us-crimea-referendum-criticism-ukraine-pm-visit):
The White House is stepping up its criticism of a planned referendum in Crimea as it plays host on Wednesday to the Ukrainian prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk in a last ditch bid to prevent Russian annexation of the peninsula.
In a statement issued jointly on the behalf of G7 leaders, the US administration insisted the referendum scheduled to take place this weekend “would have no legal effect” and would not be recognised by the international community.
Head Of Ukraine National Defense Council: "Ukraine Is Facing The Threat Of A Full-Scale Invasion From Various Directions" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/head-ukraine-national-defense-council-ukraine-facing-threat-full-scale-invasion-vari):
A few moments ago we showed a map of the various Russian military units amassing near the Ukraine border (whose movements we had been tracking for the past several days), so the ongoing less than stealthy escalation by Russian forces in preparation for what by all accounts looks like a preparation to take on east Ukraine should come as no surprise to anyone. And yet, it appears to have surprised Othe head of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, Andriy Parubiy, who earlier today claimed that Russian forces near the border totaled more than 80,000 solders, 270 tanks, 370 artillery systems and 140 combat aircraft: precisely what Zero Hedge readers know already. His assessment: "Ukraine today is facing the threat of a full-scale invasion from various directions."
For the visually oriented, here's a photo released a couple of days ago with US Secretary of State John F. Kerry and Ukrainian prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/12/1394648741408/416ac72c-748a-4c19-a276-845e50b0536b-460x276.jpeg
ThePythonicCow
14th March 2014, 13:42
Ah - and one more piece - threatening Russia's income by depressing the world price of petroleum: US to tap strategic petroleum reserve (http://fuelfix.com/blog/2014/03/12/us-to-tap-strategic-petroleum-reserve/)
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will release 5 million barrels of sour crude from the United States’ emergency stockpile in what officials described as a “test” of the nation’s ability to respond to oil supply disruptions around the globe.
The Energy Department said the move was necessary to verify how new pipelines and other infrastructure might affect the government’s ability to transport the crude out of underground caverns in Texas and Louisiana.
Energy Department spokesman Bill Gibbons said the drawdown was ordered “to appropriately assess the system’s capabilities in the event of a disruption.”
“Due to the recent dramatic increase in domestic crude oil production, significant changes in the system have occurred — including pipeline expansion, construction of new infrastructure, reversed flow of existing pipelines and increased use of domestic crude oil terminals,” Gibbons said.
The move comes as some pundits and policymakers call for the U.S. to tap its emergency stockpile (http://qz.com/185137/obama-is-unleashing-the-wrong-energy-weapon-against-putin-he-should-use-oil/#/h/52203,1,52205,2/) in a bid to send global crude prices lower and hurt Russia, as the oil-producing nation moves to annex Crimea from Ukraine.
Hawkwind
14th March 2014, 18:13
For the most part it still seems to me that all the major players are still following a choreographed script pretty much following the plan laid out in the supposedly fake Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. If that's the case, the final act of the plan begins with causing as much chaos and fear as possible. Part of that would be instituting a sudden global financial melt-down, but I certainly wouldn't rule out at least a limited nuclear exchange. The best way I can see to avoid that scenario is to continue exposing the charade for what it is. The more people become aware of the problem, reaction, solution ploy the less likely it is to succeed. The lower the chance of success becomes the less likely it will be attempted. That still doesn't get us out of the hole we're in, but it does buy us some time to cobble a solution together.
AuCo
14th March 2014, 18:27
Interesting thread, Paul.
I am asking myself these questions and think up the answers too. How silly is that! :o
Is this a fluke in US foreign policy? Hmm, more like according to plan.
Does China want this to happen? Sure, why not!
So, will China join Russia in this whole fiasco? Nah!
So, does that mean China wants her own "comrade" taken out? Hmm, not out, just down.
Well then, does this mean China is the US ally? Oh no, on the contrary.
Then why would China NOT want to combine forces with Russia to take out the West? Because the high probability is it will lose.
What then this all means? It means China wants Russia and the US will allow it to happen.
Why? Because the US wants to break up China, after Russia.
Why? Because while there are still the "imperialistic" China and Russia, there will be no NWO.
Then how come the US won't just go and beat them all up given the high probability? I'd keep my mouth shut. :o
aheb
14th March 2014, 19:11
I have to say a favourite saying here " Never underestimate the power of human stupidity " I sometimes think that the fall of the US dollar will come about from ignorance and expediancy rather than any other evil force.......although I may be wrong
skippy
14th March 2014, 20:59
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Creative Lorraine
15th March 2014, 23:07
This is what i like to see.... turning point for humanity Payment Order 1-11 is the gate implementation of the entire financial system to the new Global Government supposedly it was signed March 11 2014
I hope this info is true I only have 2 links at this time
Up all night seeking the truth in this matter
Maybe helping to seek the truth on this? I would think anyone on here would want this to be TRUE
Sorry Paul if u think this a bump
i read this thread i didn't think so
honestly don't know how to navigate on this program or even know how
to create a thread
I read everyday on Avalon since 2011
I figured out how private message Harley Hawkins on this
hopefully he can get back with me or somebody get with him
Please....
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ThePythonicCow
16th March 2014, 15:07
honestly don't know how to navigate on this program or even know how to create a thread
Perhaps an article I wrote three years ago will provide you with useful tips on starting a thread: How to post or start a new thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14795-How-to-post-or-start-a-new-thread).
Alternatively, you're welcome to send a Private Message to any of the Avalon Greeters - they provide assistance to our members.
ThePythonicCow
16th March 2014, 15:58
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Here are some more articles in the last couple of days, updating this imminent potential for a dramatic financial crisis.
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Valentin Mândrăşescu, Editor of The Voice of Russia’s Reality Check (http://english.ruvr.ru/reality_check_news/), explains why from Now On, No Compromises Are Possible For Russia (http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/3/10/from-now-on-no-compromises-are-possible-for-russia.html). My summary of his analysis:
The US has double crossed and threatened Russia several times too many. The hard liners in Russia now have the upper hand. The Ukraine is far too vital a resource for Russia, and moreover Russia cannot allow it to become a NATO base. The US has proven itself to be completely untrustworthy. Russia can no longer compromise. They must "go to the wall" ... whatever it takes.
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The Russians Have Already Quietly Pulled Their Money From The West (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-14/russians-have-already-quietly-pulled-their-money-west). This Zerohedge article concludes:
So the bottom line is that Russia, thinking a few steps ahead, already has withdrawn the bulk of its assets from the West, and why not. Recall that a year ago it was revealed that the same Russians who were supposed to be punished in Cyprus had mostly withdrawn their funds in advance of the bail in: they tend to know what is coming. It was the ordinary Cypriot citizens, who had done nothing wrong, who were most impaired.
And so while the Russian response is already known, we wonder just how true is the inverse: just how prepared is the west, and especially Europe, to exist in a world in which a third of Germany's gas is suddenly cut off? We can't wait to find out early next week.
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A book that I read years ago, The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy - What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous with Destiny, by William Strauss & Neil Howe. (http://amzn.com/0767900464 ), explains why we are in for years of depression, tyranny and war. The Burning Platform article Fourth Turning: The People Vs. Big Brother (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/03/13/fourth-turning-the-people-vs-big-brother/) provides a good overview of this analysis. This article begins with a quote from the book:
The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.
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The Sovereign Man article The world is SCREAMING for a new financial system (http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/the-world-is-screaming-for-a-new-financial-system-13809/) observes, as others before have observed, that the time for a shift away from the US Dollar as the dominant currency is approaching:
These people have their heads buried in the sand so deep that they can’t even hear the rest of the world SCREAMING for a new financial system.
This is going to happen, whether the US wants it to or not.
And while no foreign government wants a collapse of the dollar, they do very much want an orderly rebalancing of the financial system. This is already under way.
The US government may pretend that everything is fine and dandy. But given the overwhelming objective evidence out there, folks who aren’t on board with this major trend are ignoring it at their own peril.
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From Zerohedge, the US Issues Travel Alert For Russia, Warns Of "Potential Military Clashes (Either Accidental Or Intentional)" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-14/us-issues-travel-alert-russia-warns-potential-military-clashes-either-accidental-or-):
Just out from the State Department, which in the aftermath of the most recent failure by John Kerry to resolve the Ukraine situation, appears to be escalating to populism and engaging the general public. The best part in the warning is the following clarification: "all U.S. citizens located in or considering travel to the border region, specifically the regions bordering Ukraine in Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh, and Rostov Oblasts and Krasnodar Krai, should be aware of the potential for escalation of tensions, military clashes (either accidental or intentional)." Somehow we have a feeling we may be seeing a spike in "accidental military clashes" over the next week.
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German chancellor Angela Merkel may appear to be leaning towards the western, Eurozone, NATO, US positions right now regarding the Ukraine, but key German exporting companies are getting nervous over possible Russian sanctions. German Exporters Fire Warning Shot About Russia “Sanction-Spiral,” Banks At Risk (http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/3/13/german-exporters-fire-warning-shot-about-russia-sanction-spi.html). This article begins:
It took a while. But it had to come, the public warning shot – after what must have been a ferocious lobbying campaign behind closed doors. No one in Germany is allowed to get in the way of the sacrosanct exporters. The German economic model, to the chagrin of neighboring countries, is based on them.
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One financial/economic weapon the US has in this conflict is the price of oil. Russia depends critically on the price of oil for a major portion of its national income. Commodity Markets Will Be Used As A Weapon Against The Putin Regime, Starting Now (http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/3/13/commodity-markets-will-be-used-as-a-weapon-against-the-putin.html). On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, it was announced that:
5 million barrels would be released from the [US] Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR), the first release since June 2011.
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The war of words and threats (which, as noted above, Russia can ill afford to back down from) continues. The Kremlin has announced that If The US Tries To Hurt Russia's Economy, Russia Will Target The Dollar (http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/3/15/kremlin-if-the-us-tries-to-hurt-russias-economy-russia-will.html):
Alexey Ulyukaev, Russia’s Minister of Economic Development and a member of Putin's cabinet told Rossia-24 news channel about possible retaliatory measures if Washington adds economic sanctions to the political sanctions.
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Those economic retaliatory measures were not long in coming from Russia, it seems. Did Russia Just Move Its Treasury Holdings Offshore? (The Wall Street Journal) (http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/14/did-russia-just-dump-its-treasury-holdings/).
Foreign central banks’ Treasury bond holdings parked at the Federal Reserve dropped by the most on record in the latest week. Some analysts think the crisis in Ukraine is sparking the move.
Their theory: Russia is shifting its Treasury bond holdings out of the Fed and into offshore accounts. That way, Russia would be able to buy or sell its portfolio if the U.S. and its European allies impose economic sanctions amid growing geopolitical tensions in Ukraine.
Treasury securities held in custody for foreign official and international accounts tumbled by $105 billion in the week that ended Wednesday, according to weekly data released late Thursday. That shrank Treasury bond holdings by foreign central banks to a 15-month low of $2.855 trillion, though still near a record high of $3.02 trillion set in December.
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Neither side is in a mood to back down. Russia and west on collision course over Ukraine as talks fail in London (The Guardian) (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/14/russia-west-collision-course-ukraine-talks-fail-london):
John Kerry (US Secretary of State) and Sergei Lavrov (Russian Foreign Minister) fail to reach agreement as Crimea prepares for referendum on joining Russia
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China appears to remain in the wings, quietly supporting Russia's positions. Russia vetos, China abstains on UN resolution on Crimea (newsinfo.inquirer.net/585910/russia-vetos-china-abstains-on-un-resolution-on-crimea):
While Russia veto'd the US resolution condemning the Crimea referendum at a UN Security Council, China abstained.
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Similarly, China provided low key support to Russia for the monetary battle shaping up. China Widens Dollar Trading Band From 1% To 2%, Yuan Volatility Set To Spike (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-15/china-widens-dollar-trading-band-1-2-yuan-volatility-set-spike):
In the aftermath in the recent surge in China's renminbi volatility which saw it plunge at the fastest pace in years, many, us included, suggested that the immediate next step in China's "fight with speculators" (not to mention the second biggest trade deficit in history), was for the PBOC to promptly widen the Yuan trading band, something it hasn't done since April 2012, with the stated objective of further liberalizing its monetary system and bringing the currency that much closer to being freely traded and market-set. Overnight it did just that, when it announced it would widen the Yuan's trading band against the dollar from 1% to 2%.
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Summary:
Major fireworks on the world's economic/financial/monetary stage would not be surprising in this coming week, with the conclusion today of the Ukraine Crimean referendum, which is expected to support dividing the Ukraine nation and Crimea rejoining Russia.
Both the US and Russia have announced they will escalate economic and political sanctions and retaliatory measures, and neither side is likely to back down. Rather each side will use the actions of the other side to justify continuing the escalation.
gripreaper
16th March 2014, 17:00
Just some random musings to add this morning, which may or may not be succinct. If I was a murderous, arrogant blood sacrificing, child raping, pedophilic, hedonistic, pompous, self centered, obsessive, self absorbed, narcissistic oligarchical inhuman power mongering psychopathic interloper, what would I do?
I would work the populace of the earth into a frenzy using memes of nationalism and pride, while starving their monetary systems of necessary liquidity to adequately operate in commerce, while loaning them fiat debt instruments to indenture them further into slavery and centralization, giving out cheap money to the globalist industrial war machine.
We have to break down the current system of nation/states, education, banking, corporations and governments in order to make way for the new system. During this engineered collapse, we will create chaos wherever necessary, through wars, both ground, currency, racial, religious, and resource. We will use the age old trick of "divide and conquer" which has worked against the slaves for millennium, since they are so stupid and it has ALWAYS worked before.
I would then create new memes of how centralized digital monetary systems (bitcoin), centralized government, and centralized adjudication would eliminate all the quarrels between nations (even though we created them), eliminate all the discrepancies between currencies (although we created them) and return order and prosperity to all beings on the planet.
Part of these new memes would include the introduction of digital currency, where all transactions and all commerce can be monitored, controlled, analyzed, directed, and manipulated, so that no one does a single action anywhere on the planet that is not monitored and adjusted to the ultimate agenda. We would also use our access to the massive digital surveillance and data gathering capabilities to entrain our slaves into following only the beliefs sanctioned by the globalist state.
We will use wireless microwave technology to entrain the mind and it's very thoughts, as well as alter the biology of the body, to eliminate through poverty and disease, any miscreants who do not fall completely into subservience. If they fail to comply, we will shut their digital chip off where they cannot operate and feed themselves, and become vagabond.
We will set these memes up so that the populace will beg for these changes, rally and demand these changes and love them. The populace will self police it's peers, to where no one will dare step out of line for fear that their own brothers and sisters will ridicule and reject them.
There will be no place to go at all which is outside of this system, period. Sounds like fun, doesn't it?
I sure hope they don't wake up and realize how powerful they are spiritually before we get this grid in place. :)
genevieve
16th March 2014, 22:08
gripreaper--
Your first paragraph of post 55 had me choking on my coffee. :spit:
This is not the first time.
Note to self: Empty mouth before reading gripreaper's posts.
Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve
P.S. Thanks for this very interesting thread, everyone!
ThePythonicCow
17th March 2014, 02:49
The trigger has been pulled; the flag dropped; the starting gun has fired.
Ukraine crisis: Crimeans vote to join Russia in referendum slammed as 'illegal' by US, EU (The Sydney Morning Herald) (http://www.smh.com.au/world/ukraine-crisis-crimeans-vote-to-join-russia-in-referendum-slammed-as-illegal-by-us-eu-20140317-hvjhk.html)
Crimea supporters look to Russia (Calgary, AB, Canada / News Talk 770) (http://www.newstalk770.com/2014/03/16/crimea-supporters-look-to-russia/)
OBAMA TO PUTIN: We Will Punish You For Illegitimate Crimean 'Referendum' (The Business Insider) (http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-putin-crimea-referendum-ukraine-2014-3)
Crimea votes to secede from Ukraine as Russian troops keep watch (New Delhi Television) (http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/crimea-votes-to-secede-from-ukraine-as-russian-troops-keep-watch-496525?pfrom=home-lateststories)
Cheers and jeers greet Crimea’s vote for Russia (Toronto Star) (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/03/16/cheers_and_jeers_greet_crimeas_vote_for_russia.html)
Crimea referendum triggers worst crisis in East-West relations since the Cold War (Irish Examiner) (http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/cwgbcwcweycw/rss2/)
95.7% of Crimeans Give the Finger to the White House Tyrant (Paul Craig Roberts) (http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/03/95-7-of-crimeans-give-the-finger-to-the-white-house-tyrant/):
In an unprecedented turnout unmatched by any Western election, Crimeans voted 95.7% to join Russia. As I pointed out earlier today, under the twisted logic of Washington Crimea has never been a part of Ukraine as Russians were not allowed to vote when the Soviet dictator Khrushchev stuck the Russian province of Crimea into Ukraine in 1954.
While Crimeans celebrate in the streets and international observers declare the referendum to be totally fair and free of all interference and threat, the neo-Nazi White House declared that “we don’t recognize no stinking vote.” The moronic White House spokesperson said that the White House and “the international community”–Washington in its arrogance thinks that it is the voice of “the international community”–do not recognize the results of democracy in action.
gripreaper
17th March 2014, 03:15
While Crimeans celebrate in the streets and international observers declare the referendum to be totally fair and free of all interference and threat, the neo-Nazi White House declared that “we don’t recognize no stinking vote.” The moronic White House spokesperson said that the White House and “the international community”–Washington in its arrogance thinks that it is the voice of “the international community”–do not recognize the results of democracy in action
Let the awakening of mankind continue!
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ThePythonicCow
17th March 2014, 07:24
In the following video, Darryl Robert Schoon discusses prediction and prophesy in reference to the economic collapse. He predicts what is about to happen. Buckminster Fuller and Edgar Cayce saw a similar future.
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Schoon predicts the mother of all economic collapses, followed by a time of great prosperity.
In this associated paper, The Economic Collapse / Prediction & Prophecy (pdf) (http://www.drschoon.com/members/commentary/HowItWillEnd.pdf), Schoon writes:
The US economy is in the last stages of the bankers' ponzi-scheme of credit and debt. Debt levels are overwhelming the system, bringing down the US and other nations. This, according to Buckminster Fuller is a good thing. The elites, the 1%, will be bankrupted by what is happening. Edgar Cayce, the psychic, also predicted that catastrophic changes would usher in a new and better world.
The economic crisis is only part of a vast paradigm shift now taking place, a shift that would change life on Earth in unimaginable ways.
Darryl Robert Schoon is one of a kind. He is of American Indian descent. He dropped out of law school to become a hippie in Haight-Ashbury (San Francisco, California, USA) and then to spend ten years in US federal prison on drug crimes (see further his earlier book Light in a Dark Place: The Prison Years (http://www.amazon.com/Light-Dark-Place-Prison-Years/dp/0615653332).) He is extremely well read in economics and monetary history, and he wears the finest suits of any commentator that I follow.
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I listed the following three steps in the opening post of this thread:
Economic collapse in the US and Europe (and many places elsewhere) for the next 2 to 4 years
Then serious risk of World War III between NATO and China/Russia.
Then New World Order economically, politically, financially, monetarily, ...
The economic collapse will (in my present view), for the next year or two at least, be a time of great economic depression, with a strange mix of monetary inflation and deflation. No one (outside of the central banks) will have sufficient "money" (the current debt-backed paper money), but those with anything left to sell will be increasingly reluctant to accept such money as well. Capital markets, which fund new productive capacity, infrastructure, and commercial enterprise, will collapse even further than they already have, and some of the frauds that have been masquerading their current already substantial collapse will be exposed. The scarcity of money to earn or invest will be seen as deflationary, but the reluctance to accept money (as will be seen in the higher prices of imports, especially energy and food) will be seen as inflationary.
Whether the second step above, risk of World War III, will be another war between earthly nations, or whether it will be a (false flag instigated) alien threat as I described in Post #27, above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69322-What-I-see-coming-for-the-next-few-years.&p=808138&viewfull=1#post808138), I obviously don't know ... I'd guess the latter.
Whether the third step above, a New World Order, will be the banality feared by Huxley or the tyranny feared by Orwell (see further Huxley vs. Orwell: The Webcomic (http://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic-2/)), or the wonderful prosperity anticipated by Buckminster Fuller and Edgar Cayce (see further Schoon's pdf (http://www.drschoon.com/members/commentary/HowItWillEnd.pdf), linked above), I obviously don't know that either.
My temperament is one of preparing and anticipating. I prepare for such dangers as I can foresee, and I anticipate and move toward the opportunities I foresee. I do not fear the dangers I foresee, for I anticipate I will overcome them, as need be, when the time comes. Nor do I take immense delight in the opportunities I foresee, for I know I will continue moving, in ways I don't yet foresee. Life is not a goal, but a journey.
This temperament colors whether I expect step 3 to be awful or wonderful. You see, I don't actually care that much either way, for I know that I will continue, at least until I don't continue, at least in this present physical form. Que Sera Sera (What will be will be, as sung by Doris Day) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc), though apparently I somewhat disagree with the other line in that song "The future's not ours, to see."
ThePythonicCow
17th March 2014, 12:57
This temperament colors whether I expect step 3 to be awful or wonderful. You see, I don't actually care that much either way, for I know that I will continue, at least until I don't continue, at least in this present physical form. Que Sera Sera (What will be will be, as sung by Doris Day) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc), though apparently I somewhat disagree with the other line in that song "The future's not ours, to see."
Clarification: When I say I don't care what is the outcome, that means that the not yet known to me future doesn't effect much what I consciously do in the present. I will continue to prepare for a diverse range of possible futures, and work to better the lot of myself and the beings with whom I am connected (local, Web, or in whatever other ways I am not verbally conscious of.)
There is one effect, in that the range of diverse futures that I consider more likely are those for which I make more effort to prepare.
ThePythonicCow
18th March 2014, 10:50
Dang -- when am I going to learn?
When US President Obama says he will be strong, he is weak. When he says he will be weak (or whatever word he uses instead), he is strong (or what I'd call tyrannical.)
Behold Obama's response to Putin, now that the Crimea has voted to succeed from the Ukraine and seek to join the Russian Federation:
Russian Deputy PM Laughs at Obama’s Sanctions (ABC News) (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/03/russian-deputy-pm-laughs-at-obamas-sanctions/)
Why Today's DEAD CAT BOUNCE In Stocks Will Lead To Heavy Losses. By Gregory Mannarino (Youtube) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szZwsWyCTIE)
The West's response to Russia: Limp, little, and late (TheWeek.com) (http://theweek.com/article/index/258181/the-wests-response-to-russia-limp-little-and-late)
Obama Announces New Sanctions Against Russia (NBC News) (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/obama-announces-new-sanctions-against-russia-n54511)
The report in the first link above directly quotes a Russian deputy prime minister mocking Obama for Obama's weak response (on ABC News, a mainstream US news outlet, no less!)
The second link above goes to a Youtube video of Gregory Mannarino, a stock trader in the US. Gregory has a different focus in this video, and he is speaking from a more "conventional" view regarding world politics (his expertise and talents are in stock trading, where he's been quite good of late.) But listening to him, I hear that he is quite frustrated with the impotence of Obama's sanctions, which focused on a few Russian oligarchs, not on either Putin nor on Russia overall.
Quoting Gregory Mannarino: "I'm embarrassed to be an American today. ... Our President is so weak. He's done nothing ... to hurt the economy of Russia."
The third link above is another mocking of Obama's weak response, from TheWeek.com.
The fourth link above, from NBC News (another mainstream US news media outlet) simply describes Obama's sanctions, stating in part:
The White House announced a series of sanctions targeting a group of individuals, including senior aides to Russian President Vladimir Putin and the former president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych. A senior administration official described the seven individuals targeted by the sanctions as "cronies" of the Russian government.
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So the imminent crisis that I thought might boil over continues to simmer quietly. For now at least, Obama will not, it seems, provoke Putin into using some "nuclear" financial, economic or monetary option.
TargeT
18th March 2014, 12:34
even now I still feel " not yet" is the moto of the day.
perhaps these are all feints and maneuvers to gauge public response, perhaps I'm just crazy assuming there's a tight, observant, controlling group that is actually guiding all this rather than a (more realistic?) group(s) of opportunistic selfish / greedy individuals trying to leverage any situation to their best interests.
ThePythonicCow
19th March 2014, 19:23
Ah - good interview by Greg Hunter of USAWatchDog.com with Jim Sinclair, one of the long time gold bugs that I've been following for years.
Jim has much the same view that I've been espousing. We're on the cusp of an economic/financial/monetary (and potentially hot) war, which the US will lose. The US Dollar will be rejected as the world's Reserve Currency when Russia accepts other currencies for gas and oil. The price of imports into the US will rise sharply, and the US economy will collapse, into either a depression, or a war-time economy (or one after the other, as I predicted in my opening post on this thread.)
Jim Sinclair: Russia Can Collapse US Economy, Gold Update, Silver is Gold on Steroids & More
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Here's Greg Hunter's article with some of this interview in text form:
Putin Has Nuclear Economic Bomb-Jim Sinclair (USAWatchDog.com) (http://usawatchdog.com/putin-has-nuclear-economic-bomb-jim-sinclair/)
ThePythonicCow
19th March 2014, 19:43
Dave Hodges, who tends toward the "doom & gloom sooner rather than later" school (which school I attend on a part-time basis), is anticipating a little bit of "hot war" now (as in the next week or two.)
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Article at: Ukraine and Syria Will Both Fall to Putin (TheCommonSenseshow.com) (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/18/ukraine-and-syria-will-both-fall-to-putin/)
Hodges is anticipating that Putin (Russia) will overrun the Ukraine in a few days, with overwhelming military force, and relatively limited casualties. That much wouldn't surprise me.
But Hodges is expecting the US to respond with some sort of false flag event (hmm ... I wonder if the missing Malaysian Boeing 777 will have a role in this?) to justify invading Syria in turn. The US pretty clearly lacks sufficient forces to "defend" the Ukraine from the Russian military, but can bring substantial force to bear on Syria. Hodges figures that Putin is prepared for this, and will back Assad of Syria, and likely hold both Syria and use that escalation as sufficient reason to detonate his "financial weapon of mass destruction" ... blowing up the Reserve Currency status of the US Petro-Dollar.
Perhaps ... but so far Obama has shown himself to be too timid for such sharp action. But if it did happen as Hodges predicts, then I would predict that the resulting hot war would not escalate further at this time. Rather it would be a prelude to the couple years of the Great Depression II for the US, with economic collapse and the risk of very serious inflation, perhaps even on the scale of the hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic of Germany between 1921 and 1924 (http://www.businessinsider.com/weimar-germany-hyperinflation-explained-2013-9?op=1).
ThePythonicCow
19th March 2014, 19:48
perhaps I'm just crazy assuming there's a tight, observant, controlling group that is actually guiding all this rather than a (more realistic?) group(s) of opportunistic selfish / greedy individuals trying to leverage any situation to their best interests.
Perhaps one more observant controlling group, or perhaps two competing groups, each aware of the rather fearsome power of the other, so (sometimes) avoiding being too rash and impulsive.
Dennis Leahy
19th March 2014, 21:56
Hi Paul,
Is this the Dave Hodges interview that you meant to post? This one, titled "WW3 Russia And Ukraine by Dave Hodges", on Caravan to Midnight, ...
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[ Mod-edit: Good catch. Actually I didn't have a video of Hodges discussing this. I only had the article. My reposting of the video of Greg Hunter interviewing Jim Sinclair, and my faillure to provide the link to Dave Hodge's article, were my confusions. Thanks to your research, I learned that Dave Hodges was on a very recent Youtube, on Caravan to Midnight with John B Wells, discussing these same matters. Cool. My above Hodges post is fixed now, I hope, with both article and correct Youtube links. Thanks! -- Paul. ]
Ron Mauer Sr
20th March 2014, 00:59
Dmitry Orlov interviewed by Greg Hunter. Dmitry was born in Russia and lived through the collapse of the U.S.S.R. His perspective on the near future is interesting.
Some points made:
Russia does not need to do anything about the Ukraine. Most of the military and civilians want to return to Russia.
Russia does not need the U.S.
The U.S. economy is terminal, but the end date cannot be predicted.
The supply lines to troops in Afghanistan run through Russia and Pakistan. Russia is 100% reliable. Pakistan is not. When troops leave Afganistan, Washington needs Russian support for large scale troop movement. If Russia refuses cooperation, leaving Afghanistan will be like leaving Saigon at the end of the Vietnamese war, this time 1000X worse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCO5nZgvtbY
T Smith
20th March 2014, 03:36
Ah - good interview by Greg Hunter of USAWatchDog.com with Jim Sinclair, one of the long time gold bugs that I've been following for years.
Jim has much the same view that I've been espousing. We're on the cusp of an economic/financial/monetary (and potentially hot) war, which the US will lose. The US Dollar will be rejected as the world's Reserve Currency when Russia accepts other currencies for gas and oil. The price of imports into the US will rise sharply, and the US economy will collapse, into either a depression, or a war-time economy (or one after the other, as I predicted in my opening post on this thread.)
Jim Sinclair: Russia Can Collapse US Economy, Gold Update, Silver is Gold on Steroids & More
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Here's Greg Hunter's article with some of this interview in text form:
Putin Has Nuclear Economic Bomb-Jim Sinclair (USAWatchDog.com) (http://usawatchdog.com/putin-has-nuclear-economic-bomb-jim-sinclair/)
Here's the thing:
In theory this analysis is spot on. I can't say I disagree with anything Sinclair is saying here. But in my mind, his speculation of gold emancipation is akin to analyzing the chemistry of a single match, coupled with a very detailed and accurate analysis of the ratio of oxygen-to-carbon in the surrounding environs a mile radius out, and (rightly) concluding that said match could consume an entire city block given the current head wind and the known flammable materials in its path. And in theory, he would be absolutely correct.
But $50,000.00 gold? Yes, I could light a match, and given all the right conditions (with no outside intervention) potentially burn down a city block. But after considering all variables outside natural law (and mainly the various power mechanisms the Federal Reserve welds to prevent the emancipation of physical from paper, some of which may be highly unthinkable, sociopathic, treasonous, murderous, and perhaps even beyond that what we can even begin to imagine) how practical, in reality, is the emancipation of physical gold from paper gold? Aren't there contingencies in place to prevent such a wild fire from spreading by any means necessary (perhaps even nuking a city, say, as a false-flag tactic in the same vein as a fireman quelling flames with a water hose?), especially if said city block contains the entire fortune, riches, and power of those whose interest it is to keep their fortune and power from burning to ash? Is this really possible in the world we live in today? And if so, what would the landscape of the world look like in which the Powers That Be have lost complete control? What other black swans would we necessarily see in that world, which may or may not also contribute to the price of gold?
My gut understanding is commentators like Jim Sinclair always under estimate the controlling interests manipulating reality, in this case the Federal Reserve. I'm not suggesting the Federal Reserve are "Gods", or it is impossible for them to lose control, but I'm almost certain they have a many more tricks in their bag, and some much more malignant than merely flooding the market with naked shorts.
How do I know this? Because they have WAY too much to lose for them to succumb to laws of supply and demand.
ThePythonicCow
20th March 2014, 05:22
Dmitry Orlov interviewed by Greg Hunter. Dmitry was born in Russia and lived through the collapse of the U.S.S.R. His perspective on the near future is interesting.
As Greg Hunter says near the end of this interview ... very enlightening.
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But $50,000.00 gold?
Well, if it gets that bad, it won't really be that an ounce of gold is worth $50,000, but rather that a US Dollar is only worth 1/50,000-th of an ounce of gold.
(A "cute" way of saying that a new suit might still cost me about one ounce of gold, a new car of modest proportions ten ounces of gold, and a loaf of bread 1/1000-th of an ounce of gold ... it would be the $US prices that went "over the moon.")
Yes, the US Banksters and their crime syndicate the Federal Reserve has WAY too much to lose to allow this.
The question is whether they are the ones ultimately calling the shots.
My hunch is that they are not.
ThePythonicCow
20th March 2014, 05:59
But Hodges is expecting the US to respond with some sort of false flag event ... to justify invading Syria in turn.
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Perhaps ... but so far Obama has shown himself to be too timid for such sharp action. But if it did happen as Hodges predicts, then I would predict that the resulting hot war would not escalate further at this time. Rather it would be a prelude to the couple years of the Great Depression II for the US, with economic collapse and the risk of very serious inflation, perhaps even on the scale of the hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic of Germany between 1921 and 1924 (http://www.businessinsider.com/weimar-germany-hyperinflation-explained-2013-9?op=1).
A few hours ago, Bill Ryan made a very important post, with an alternative viewpoint: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Putin, and World War III (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III).
ThePythonicCow
20th March 2014, 07:05
The question is whether they are the ones ultimately calling the shots.
My hunch is that they are not.
http://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2009/05/6a0120a85dcdae970b01287770901f970c-pi.png
We have met our future, and we are it
ThePythonicCow
27th March 2014, 05:04
The latest edition of Jim Willie's Hat Trick Letter (http://goldenjackass.com) includes much the same forecast as I have been presenting in this thread:
A Global Currency Reset (date has been set)
US Dollar loses reserve status with initial 30% devaluation
Some new reserve currency, perhaps via the IMF, is established
Significant confiscations of US pensions and bank accounts
A year or two of bank failures in the US
Then total economic collapse
TargeT
27th March 2014, 13:35
A Global Currency Reset (date has been set)
???
date has been set to what?
ThePythonicCow
27th March 2014, 20:27
A Global Currency Reset (date has been set)
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date has been set to what?
Jim Willie did not say what the set date was ... only that his source for this said that it had been set.
ThePythonicCow
29th March 2014, 19:12
There have been times (perhaps including in something I might have posted above) when I thought that what we are witnessing is the transfer of the control center of the bastards in power to another nation-state. At times in the past, the financial control center (and sometimes the entire control center) has been in Egypt, Greece, Rome, Venice, Amsterdam, London, and New York. At times, I have thought we are now witnessing the movement of the financial control center to Beijing, China.
Currently, I don't think that's what's happening. We are not witnessing a national transfer, but the evolution of control to an explicit global basis.
We are witnessing the transfer from a series of national control centers to one global control center. This will not happen simply by various nations uniting in regional unions, which unions then unite into one global union (by which I mean an explicitly dominant control center of humanity, not a debating society like the present United Nations.) Rather the national control structures must be demolished first, for they otherwise present too cumbersome an obstacle to the intended and explicit global control structure. Indeed, the present day problems of the European Union may well be used to justify the neutering of nation state power at the same time as the global union is formed, in much the same way as state power was (ultimately) neutered in the formation of the United States, using the failed example of the Articles of the Confederation (1780's) in the first attempt at a nation-state in the former British colonies of North America, after the American Revolution.
China is not the new control center designate, but rather part of the scaffolding in use during the demolition. The United States has been strong; strong enough to extinguish any upstarts who might have impeded this globalist agenda and strong enough to be the explicit, though still essentially nationalist, dominant control structure on this planet since it entered World War II on the "day that shall live in infamy" (US President FDR's words), December 8, 1941, the day after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
But now, over the decades, the US debt, as well as much of its manufacturing, agriculture, and energy production have been exported. Domestic US power has been brought under central control, thanks in part to such efforts as
the War on Drugs CIA Drug Competitors,
the War on Terror Freedom,
Homeland Security Tyranny,
student loans debt (over one Trillion US Dollars - see here (http://rt.com/usa/student-loan-debts-top-trillion-957/))
the housing mortgage bubble and collapse of the previous decade,
the financial crisis of 2008,
Obama Care Federal Medical Control,
the poisoning of our water, air, food, soil,
various orchestrated "mass shootings" intended to justify gun confiscation, and
the impending confiscation of any remaining savings, pensions and retirement funds.
However, China is not the "new home" of the financial elite. They are just part of the demolition scaffolding. Just yesterday, David Stockman (a former budget director under Ronald Reagan and one of the more asture commentators of late) posted an excellent analysis of the deep flaws inherent in the present Chinese economic structure at China’s Monumental Ponzi: Here’s How It Unravels (http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/3/28/chinas-monumental-ponzi-heres-how-it-unravels.html).
Stockman concludes his article with:
So China is on the cusp of the greatest margin call in history. Once asset values starting falling, its pyramids of debt will stand exposed to withering performance failures and melt-downs. Undoubtedly the regime will struggle to keep its printing press prosperity alive for another month or quarter, but the fractures are now gathering everywhere because the credit rampage has been too extreme and hideous.
The banksters in the City of London (the closest publicly visible face of the economic elite) are not relocating to Beijing. Rather they are strengthening their involvement with Beijing, as explained in Directed History Of The City's Alliance With China (http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/35155/Directed-History-of-the-Citys-Alliance-with-China/). The currency swap arrangements between London and Beijing described in this article are analogous to wiring up a few more of the explosives for the planned controlled demolition.
At various times, I have read that a collapse of the Japanese financial debt and markets will trigger the great world wide financial, monetary and economic collapse. See for example here (http://investmentwatchblog.com/derivative-bubble-to-burst-will-japanese-bond-market-collapses-be-the-catalyst-for-the-whole-thing-to-come-unglued/). At other times I read that the failure of (nominally German) Deutsche Bank will be the trigger. At other times, I read that the failure in the derivative markets will be the trigger. At yet other times, I read that larger scale trading of petroleum, especially between the Middle East (Saudia Arabia, et al) and China in Chinese Yuan will be the trigger.
These are all high explosive financial demolition charges that the bastards in power have been planting, as part of a massive, controlled (or so they hope) financial, economic and monetary demolition of the current systems on this planet.
In my opening post to this thread, I forecast this sequence of events:
Economic collapse in the US and Europe (and many places elsewhere) for the next 2 to 4 years
Then serious risk of World War III between NATO and China/Russia.
Then New World Order economically, politically, financially, monetarily, ...
Later on in this thread, I also offered the alternative of an alien invasion (no real aliens need apply) to a major World War III.
There is yet another variant of this that now seems at least as likely to me:
Economic collapse in the US, Europe and Japan, over the next 2 to 4 years
Subsequent economic collapse of China and Russia.
Global depression, ending with some world wide galvanizing event such as a (fake) alien invasion.
The afore mentioned New World Order economically, politically, financially, monetarily, ...
China will dramatically weaken economically when its export customer base has collapsed, pulling the last remaining underpinnings out from underneath its immense internal financial pyramid scheme (see Stockman's article, linked above.)
Russia, primarily an exporter of energy and other natural resources, will dramatically weaken economically when demand from its customers Europe and China collapse, perhaps expedited by the early "retirement" of its strong leader, Putin, and perhaps further expedited by the release, in response to a "World Wide Alien Threat", of commercially useful free energy or cold fusion technologies.
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There is an underlying principle here that is worthy of note. Just as Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild remarked "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws", so also will the transition from national power to global power be an essentially economic event, not an essentially political or military event.
Economics is the study of the interchangeable abstraction (aka "money") of the essential forces of human civilization: energy, natural resources, human labor, and human intelligence. Economic force is the useful generalization of all such forces essential to human civilization. Control of the money is the ultimate generally useful force.
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The replacement of the US Dollar with a global monetary construct (not with simply a basket of national currencies, as might be an intermediate step) will be the singularly most significant event in this transition to an explicit world power structure.
Of course, such a replacement will not be a singular event, but rather a collapse in the current world wide fiat monetary system, followed by world wide economic depression, followed by a "new solution" rising from the ashes.
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From Michael G. Pento's The Coming Bond Market Collapse: How to Survive the Demise of the U.S. Debt Market (http://amzn.com/1118457080), page 163:
I don't buy into the assumption that a decision away from US debt would be a commensurate decision toward another sovereign. On the contrary, I think the crisis of sovereign debt will metastasize throughout the developed world. Europe doesn't have to exit the crisis zone for the United States to enter. The same goes for Japan. These three sovereigns can be in crisis at once. And this would coincide with a collapse in the fiat currency system.
ThePythonicCow
29th March 2014, 19:23
The currency swap arrangements between London and Beijing described in this article are analogous to wiring up a few more of the explosives for the planned controlled demolition.
Yesterday, Zerohedge posted that Germany and China have just made a similar agreement: China & Germany Sign Yuan-Settlement Pact (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-28/china-germany-sign-yuan-settlement-pact-and-obama-heads-saudi-arabia)
ThePythonicCow
29th March 2014, 19:39
From Michael G. Pento's The Coming Bond Market Collapse: How to Survive the Demise of the U.S. Debt Market (http://amzn.com/1118457080), page 163:
I don't buy into the assumption that a decision away from US debt would be a commensurate decision toward another sovereign. On the contrary, I think the crisis of sovereign debt will metastasize throughout the developed world. Europe doesn't have to exit the crisis zone for the United States to enter. The same goes for Japan. These three sovereigns can be in crisis at once. And this would coincide with a collapse in the fiat currency system.
When Pento recently presented this view that Japanese and US sovereign debt markets could collapse together in a CNBC interview involving several financial experts, his participation in that show was entirely erased from what was finally broadcast. What Pento Said To Get Him Erased From CNBC (King World News) (http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/3/28_Shocking_-_What_Pento_Said_To_Get_Him_Erased_From_CNBC.html).
This is a typical indication that he was hitting "too close to home."
ThePythonicCow
30th March 2014, 00:21
There is an underlying principle here that is worthy of note. Just as Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild remarked "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws", so also will the transition from national power to global power be an essentially economic event, not an essentially political or military event.
Economics is the study of the interchangeable abstraction (aka "money") of the essential forces of human civilization: energy, natural resources, human labor, and human intelligence. Economic force is the useful generalization of all such forces essential to human civilization. Control of the money is the ultimate generally useful force.
A point of clarification, perhaps of interest at least to those who share my focus on clarifying key underlying concepts.
Money is the underlying substance of human civilization. It forms and energizes the control mechanisms by which humans are organized into large groups. It is the fluid of trade across large nations. Its various forms provide the underlying control mechanisms of the human, political and corporate members of civilization. It is the essential means by which the bastards in power on this planet have managed humanity and extracted their labors, for many, many, millennia.
Similarly aether is the underlying substance of the physical universe. It is the stuff out of which matter, energy, and fields are formed. Astronomy, physics, astrology, and alchemy are some of the various disciplines studying these processes.
There is an alchemy or physics of both money and aether ... both are subject to subtle rules of form and frequency ... both are capable of manifesting strange and wondrous effects.
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We are witnessing a significant transformation in the form in which money is manifest in our civilization, from the coin of nation states (the coin of the realm) to the coin of an explicit global state. Such a change will be traumatic for our civilization. The change might not even succeed as the bastards intend. Perhaps civilization will collapse, or perhaps the bastards in power will lose their control. The cycles and energies of planet earth, of its solar system, of its galaxy, and of the life on this planet all effect the result. Perhaps also the intentions of other intelligent beings effect the results, for better or worse.
Both excessive fear and excessive hope can diminish our human potential to make the best of this.
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The bastards in power seek to preserve their relative monopoly on the alchemies of money and aether. These magics are the greatest sources of their power over humanity.
Selene
30th March 2014, 00:30
We are witnessing a significant transformation in the form in which money is manifest in our civilization, from the coin of nation states (the coin of the realm) to the coin of an explicit global state. Such a change will be traumatic for our civilization. The change might not even succeed as the bastards intend. Perhaps civilization will collapse, or perhaps the bastards in power will lose their control. The cycles and energies of planet earth, of its solar system, of its galaxy, and of the life on this planet all effect the result. Perhaps also the intentions of other intelligent beings effect the results, for better or worse.
Both excessive fear and excessive hope can diminish our human potential to make the best of this.
Best. Summary. Ever.
Thank you so much, Paul. You're better than you know.... :hail:
Cheers,
Selene
ThePythonicCow
30th March 2014, 23:03
Hmmm ... perhaps it is not just the "dominant nation state" that is being phased out. Perhaps it is also the dominant banks that lend to those states.
Listen (if you enjoy learned economics talks) to this talk from IMF economist Michael Kumhof:
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In the above talk to the London School of Economics (LSE) in October of last year (2013), Kumhof reinvigorates the "Chicago Plan", which was first put forward by University of Chicago professors Henry Simons and Irving Fisher during the Great Depression. That plan changes the fundamental nature of money generation, from being lent into existence by banks, to being "coined" into existence by the central political authority.
Such has been done in the past, such as Benjamin Franklin's public money (American colonies, mid 1700's) (http://21stcenturycicero.wordpress.com/fraud/how-benjamin-franklin-made-new-england-prosperous/), or Abraham Lincoln's greenbacks (during US Civil War, 1860's) (http://www.kettlemorainepreciousmetals.com/2014/03/23/the-greenback-1860-to-1880-the-united-states-of-america/). Examples of money directly issued by political powers likely exist in other nations as well; I just don't know of them offhand.
Whosoever issues money controls our civilization. For the past few centuries, at least, this control has lay predominantly with the large banks, lending money to governments, corporations and individuals. The Bank of England funded the British Empire, upon which the sun never sat in the 1800's. The Federal Reserve, founded in 1913, funded the American Empire, upon which darkness prevails across the planet, in present times.
This dichotomy of apparent public power residing in the governments of various nation states, and the hidden financial power residing in major banks, provided the underlying structure needed to create the major wars and the major economic booms and busts, of the last few centuries.
If, If, the "political central power" is successfully centralized on a world level, under the control of whomever is the dominant power on this planet, then they can reinforce that power by placing the power of money creation in that same central political institution.
A major economic depression, with the collapse of some major Western banks (for example HSBC, Deutsch Bank, JP Morgan, Bank of America, RBS, Citigroup, ...) and even of a central bank (the US Federal Reserve), and with the coincident collapse of a quadrillion dollars of interest rate derivatives, could be just what would be sufficient to gain public acceptance of a money issued by a "political" entity, instead of by the "evil banksters."
(The first problem would be that this political entity would not genuinely represent the people, nor even the various nations which have organized political power until now. The second problem would be that the people have shown limited competence to represent themselves, and what competence they do demonstrate continues to be under a deep and broad attack on many fronts, including toxic food, water, air, education, medicines, news, propaganda, distractions, ...)
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On a slightly separate note, I suspect that both the "gold bug" talk (get out of money and into the "true" money for all (publicly) recorded history, gold and silver) as well as the recent "bitcoin" flap, are both part of setting us up for a major change in the money creation mechanisms of our civilization.
ThePythonicCow
30th March 2014, 23:14
If, If, the "political central power" is successfully centralized on a world level, under the control of whomever is the dominant power on this planet, then they can reinforce that power by placing the power of money creation in that same central political institution.
Rather clearly, of course, such a centralization of overt power would be motivated by the presence (appearance) of an existential threat to all of humanity.
ThePythonicCow
31st March 2014, 00:25
On two related fronts, confidence of Americans in the government continues its decline. From Gallup polling (http://www.gallup.com/poll/5392/trust-government.aspx):
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However both Putin and Obama continue to speak with confidence that whomever is listening to them will appreciate the importance of respecting "international law".
For example, Obama says that Internatlional Law is supreme over the US Constitution (http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/26/obama-tells-europe-that-conservatism-is-coupled-to-putin/).
On the other hand, in a recent major speech by Putin (http://eng.kremlin.ru/transcripts/6889), he got in the following delightful dig at Obama and American foreign policy:
However, what do we hear from our colleagues in Western Europe and North America? They say we are violating norms of international law. Firstly, it’s a good thing that they at least remember that there exists such a thing as international law – better late than never.
Respect by Americans for their federal government in Washington is at what may be an all time low. Any American who was once a Republican (such as I was) learned that Washington was corrupt during the administrations of Clinton in the late 1990's and Obama in the last six years. Any American who was a Democrat learned that Washington was corrupt during the administrations of Bush senior (early 1990's) and Bush junior (for eight years beginning just before 9/11 of 2001). The only one's left trusting Washington now are the Americans who are naturally part of those to whom Obama appeals and who have little or no historical memory.
This is not an accident, in my view. Both the big banks and the big government are being ripened for a fall.
On the other hand, the rule of international law is being promoted as, without question, for the greater good.
ThePythonicCow
31st March 2014, 18:00
From way out in left field ... a call for a "One World Religion" at 12 minutes 22 seconds of Doug Batchelor Analyzes Pope's Recent Threat of 'Unity or Else" (12:22) (http://youtu.be/7kgxEvIDoGs?t=12m22s)7kgxEvIDoGs
The Great Conflict being stirred between Christians and Muslims may well be another example from the playbook of the Bastards in Power: Thesis (Catholic), Antitheses (Protestant, Jewish and Muslim), Synthesis (One World Religion).
I have not actually listened to the above Youtube video in its entirety. As I informed my deceased mother's Catholic Priest (she was a Catholic nun), while I was arranging her various funeral and burial affairs a few years ago, I'm a heathen. Formal religion is not a topic of much interest to me.
But I suspect that a one world government will not happen without also a one world religion.
Religious sectarianism must (in the view of the globalists) go the way of political nationalism, all superficial details such as choice of sports team and gender identity.
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On a topic of greater interest to me, there is another essential purpose of the Internet. In the eyes of those bastards who would consolidate humanity, the better that they might control humanity, the Internet is playing an essential role in reshaping the viewpoint of the typical human, from being a member of a family, community, church and nation, to being primarily an earth bound human.
This is a great blessing and a great risk. Most of us humans still seem to trust that groups of humans are best managed by governments, and the bastards in power find that provides an excellent means to control us en masse, via our collective entities, whether violently imposed or peacefully formed (though, in either case, inevitably violently sustained.) Articulate and honorable anarchists, such as Stefan Molyneux (http://www.freedomainradio.com/), are a rarity.
778 neighbour of some guy
1st April 2014, 14:56
From way out in left field ... a call for a "One World Religion" at 12 minutes 22 seconds of Doug Batchelor Analyzes Pope's Recent Threat of 'Unity or Else" (12:22) (http://youtu.be/7kgxEvIDoGs?t=12m22s)7kgxEvIDoGs
The Great Conflict being stirred between Christians and Muslims may well be another example from the playbook of the Bastards in Power: Thesis (Catholic), Antitheses (Protestant, Jewish and Muslim), Synthesis (One World Religion).
I am in the process of claiming sovereignty here in Holland, and in my search I stumbled upon the below papal Bull of 1302 where they declare to be the only rightful representation of God on earth, ( something they cannot substantiate with anything other then words, I'll repeat that .................words. no matter who speaks them, words are words and they can be contested, if no evidence gets presented or the legal term passes without answer you can consider the silence as confirmation of " We have no evidence", in that case you can officially pull the same trick as they did for centuries if you would choose to do so, not my cup of tea, but it however DOES mean, there are ONLY TWO LAWS you will ever HAVE to abide to, DO NOT KILL and DO NOT STEAL, laws of the sea, of the land, and all other laws are null and void from that point onwards for you as a human being of flesh and blood, there are no downsides, you ca still use your legal fiction PERSON if you CHOOSE to do so, yadayadayada.
Anyway, Unam Sanctam, the papal Bull from 1302 still applies, nobody objected so there you go, here it is, read carefully and between the lines.
UNAM SANCTAM
Bull of Pope Boniface VIII promulgated November 18, 1302
Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, as the Spouse in the Canticles [Sgs 6:8] proclaims: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. She is the only one, the chosen of her who bore her,' and she represents one sole mystical body whose Head is Christ and the head of Christ is God [1 Cor 11:3]. In her then is one Lord, one faith, one baptism [Eph 4:5]. There had been at the time of the deluge only one ark of Noah, prefiguring the one Church, which ark, having been finished to a single cubit, had only one pilot and guide, i.e., Noah, and we read that, outside of this ark, all that subsisted on the earth was destroyed.
We venerate this Church as one, the Lord having said by the mouth of the prophet: 'Deliver, O God, my soul from the sword and my only one from the hand of the dog.' [Ps 21:20] He has prayed for his soul, that is for himself, heart and body; and this body, that is to say, the Church, He has called one because of the unity of the Spouse, of the faith, of the sacraments, and of the charity of the Church. This is the tunic of the Lord, the seamless tunic, which was not rent but which was cast by lot [Jn 19:23- 24]. Therefore, of the one and only Church there is one body and one head, not two heads like a monster; that is, Christ and the Vicar of Christ, Peter and the successor of Peter, since the Lord speaking to Peter Himself said: 'Feed my sheep' [Jn 21:17], meaning, my sheep in general, not these, nor those in particular, whence we understand that He entrusted all to him [Peter]. Therefore, if the Greeks or others should say that they are not confided to Peter and to his successors, they must confess not being the sheep of Christ, since Our Lord says in John 'there is one sheepfold and one shepherd.' We are informed by the texts of the gospels that in this Church and in its power are two swords; namely, the spiritual and the temporal. For when the Apostles say: 'Behold, here are two swords' [Lk 22:38] that is to say, in the Church, since the Apostles were speaking, the Lord did not reply that there were too many, but sufficient. Certainly the one who denies that the temporal sword is in the power of Peter has not listened well to the word of the Lord commanding: 'Put up thy sword into thy scabbard' [Mt 26:52]. Both, therefore, are in the power of the Church, that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, but the former is to be administered for the Church but the latter by the Church; the former in the hands of the priest; the latter by the hands of kings and soldiers, but at the will and sufferance of the priest.
However, one sword ought to be subordinated to the other and temporal authority, subjected to spiritual power. For since the Apostle said: 'There is no power except from God and the things that are, are ordained of God' [Rom 13:1-2], but they would not be ordained if one sword were not subordinated to the other and if the inferior one, as it were, were not led upwards by the other.
For, according to the Blessed Dionysius, it is a law of the divinity that the lowest things reach the highest place by intermediaries. Then, according to the order of the universe, all things are not led back to order equally and immediately, but the lowest by the intermediary, and the inferior by the superior. Hence we must recognize the more clearly that spiritual power surpasses in dignity and in nobility any temporal power whatever, as spiritual things surpass the temporal. This we see very clearly also by the payment, benediction, and consecration of the tithes, but the acceptance of power itself and by the government even of things. For with truth as our witness, it belongs to spiritual power to establish the terrestrial power and to pass judgement if it has not been good. Thus is accomplished the prophecy of Jeremias concerning the Church and the ecclesiastical power: 'Behold to-day I have placed you over nations, and over kingdoms' and the rest. Therefore, if the terrestrial power err, it will be judged by the spiritual power; but if a minor spiritual power err, it will be judged by a superior spiritual power; but if the highest power of all err, it can be judged only by God, and not by man, according to the testimony of the Apostle: 'The spiritual man judgeth of all things and he himself is judged by no man' [1 Cor 2:15]. This authority, however, (though it has been given to man and is exercised by man), is not human but rather divine, granted to Peter by a divine word and reaffirmed to him (Peter) and his successors by the One Whom Peter confessed, the Lord saying to Peter himself, 'Whatsoever you shall bind on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven' etc., [Mt 16:19]. Therefore whoever resists this power thus ordained by God, resists the ordinance of God [Rom 13:2], unless he invent like Manicheus two beginnings, which is false and judged by us heretical, since according to the testimony of Moses, it is not in the beginnings but in the beginning that God created heaven and earth [Gen 1:1]. Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.
Last sentence, very dangerous.
"IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR SALVATION THAT EVERY HUMAN CREATURE BE SUBJECT TO THE ROMAN PONTIFF"
So that's where we can stick it if its up to the church, that place where Saturn doesn't shine.
ThePythonicCow
1st April 2014, 20:08
I know of perhaps just one forecaster whose past date specific forecasts have been better than chance - Martin Armstrong.
Yesterday, Martin posted a good article, summarizing his current understanding of where we are and where we are going.
Martin uses an unconventional form of dates, as years and hundredths of a year, as that is more convenient for calculating and presenting his analysis of cycles. The beginning of this year was 2014.00, and the end will be 2014.99. The current date as I write this is 2014.25 (April 1, 2014 being one-quarter of the way into 2014.)
Martin anticipates a major cycle change at 2015.75, which would be about October 1, 2015. He anticipates a major economic, political and monetary collapse, the likes of which we have not seen since the 1700's, with a substantially increased risk of major wars.
Here's Martin Armstrong's article The Age of Civil Unrest (http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/31/the-age-of-civil-unrest/):
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All governments had better open their eyes for we are on the brink of a major convergence between both the Cycle of Civil Unrest, Civil War & Revolution and International War. Both of these models converge and as I pointed out at the Cycles of War Conference, this is the first time we have seen this convergence since the 1700s.
This is no plain modern event with civil unrest erupting because of an interconnected world. These are grassroots uprisings cross-fertilized perhaps from a world contagion yet they often have similarities – corrupt governments. Turkey, Ukraine, Thailand, Venezuela and Bosnia-Herzegovina are all middle-income democracies with elected leaders besieged by people angry at misgovernment, corruption and economic sclerosis. These days it is no longer just dictators who have something to fear from the crowd. This is the promise of Marxism that centralized planning and false promises are coming home and governments are too corrupt and incompetent to deliver what they have claimed for decades.
Communism is dead. The socialistic agendas that have lined the pockets of government and filled the coffers of banks is over. The national debts are on average composed of 70% interest payments not programs to help the poor as marketed. The debts that keep growing with no intent upon paying anyone back are draining the national productivity and turning the people into economic slaves. The standard of living has declined and it now takes two incomes to survive where one use to be just fine. Women won the right to work and lost the right to stay home.
The promises that you save for the future have collapsed into dust as interest rates have been driven lower making savings utterly worthless. There is no such thing as saving and living off your fixed income. The elderly are being driven back into the work force and the whole ideas that a generation believed in are vanishing before their eyes.
So it is no longer communists and dictators that are the targets. All governments are now the targets and when the economy turns down after 2015.75, the threat of civilization will be pulled apart by the self-interest of politicians clinging to power to the detriment of the people.
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Zerohedge reposted this article here (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-31/martin-armstrong-warns-age-civil-unrest), without further comment.
Then The Daily Bell reposted that here (http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/35170/Armstrong-Predicts-the-Wests-Eventual-Demise/), with its usual perceptive and unique analysis, beginning with this overview:
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The world's pre-eminent cycle forecaster has caught up to us (see above excerpt). Martin Armstrong published his grim analysis on his own website and over at ZeroHedge and it's attracting a great deal of attention.
Armstrong is no flash in the pan. A forecasting pioneer, especially when it comes to gold, Armstrong has apparently received as much as US$10,000 an hour for his forecasting abilities, and he obviously remains opinionated and controversial.
The excerpt speaks for itself, but the blunt summation of what's going on eloquently summarizes what we have been predicting for years now: That what we call the Internet Reformation is going to reshape the world.
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The Daily Bell's analysis of Martin Armstrong's article concludes with:
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We're certainly not so mathematical as Armstrong. But his prognostication regarding the market's demise near 2016 uncannily tracks our own perspective. As does his general sense of the unraveling not just of the West but of the global system.
Armstrong sees it as a function of debt and attributes the unbearable loan portfolio to greedy politicians and supine electorates. We have a somewhat different point, though we arrive at the same conclusion.
Is it all just a gigantic mistake? We have a hard time with that. There is too much power concentrated at the top among just a few central bankers and the BIS itself. These trends have taken decades to develop while the BIS has met regularly alongside the G8 and the G20. It stretches credulity to believe all these august and intelligent individuals observed the evolution of sovereign debt overload but did nothing.
Either they simply didn't notice or they saw but declined to take action. Thus, they were exceptionally absent-minded in aggregate or amazingly passive. We don't believe the world's most powerful leaders and financiers are either. The third option is that of directed history. What has come to pass is what was intended.
Out of chaos, order ...
The only way to increase internationalism is to create a crisis and then offer a solution. We've been predicting this for years.
Most recently, we've explained it within the context of a Wall Street Party that is intended to continue for the next year or two – making those who participate carefully in a calculated manner extraordinarily wealthy before the curtain finally comes down.
And now Armstrong has chimed in. The difference is, we think it's very important to understand the WHY as well the WHAT.
Understand the modern command-control-paradigm of the power elite and you shall be rewarded with a considerable sense of control both psychologically and within a larger personal, professional and even investment context.
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Conclusion
There is trouble coming, no doubt, but if you understand the context, you will be in a better position to take the human action that can help yourself, your loved ones and your friends and community.
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My view aligns rather well with Armstrong's (rather like my view of how to shoot a basketball aligns rather well with Michael Jordan's ... only he could do it, while I could only watch intently.)
The debt is getting piled higher and deeper, and an avalanche is due, fairly soon. The precursors to the avalanche will continue to be positioned, over the next year or two, until not all the King's men and not all the King's horses can put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
ThePythonicCow
2nd April 2014, 01:47
In the shorter time scale of days, not the 1.5 years until the downturn that Martin Armstrong predicts in the previous post, we have JP Morgan escalating the financial/monetary war between the US Dollar and Russia.
From Monetary Blockade Of Russia Begins: JPMorgan Blocks Russian Money Transfer "Under Pretext" Of Sanctions (ZeroHedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-01/monetary-blockade-russia-begins-jpmorgan-blocks-russian-money-transfer-under-pretext), we have:
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Wait, did JPM just take a unilateral action, not mandated by the state department (because nowhere in the Russian sanction list does it say putting a freeze on Russian bank transfers), and refuse to process a simple money transfer? Why? And if indeed JPM is doing this, how long until all other US banks, most of which are just as allegedly criminal in dealing with offshore sources of illegal money, follow suit and leave Russia entirely in the world when it comes to USD-backed transactions.
Because what JPM may have just done is launch a preemptive strike which would have the equivalent culmination of a SWIFT blockade of Russia, the same way Iran was neutralized from the Petrodollar and was promptly forced to begin transacting in Rubles, Yuan and, of course, gold in exchange for goods and services either imported or exported.
One wonders: is JPM truly that intent in preserving its "pristine" reputation of not transacting with "evil Russians", that it will gladly light the fuse that takes away Russia's choice whether or not to depart the petrodollar voluntarily, and makes it a compulsory outcome, which incidentally will merely accelerate the formalization of the Eurasian axis of China, Russia and India.
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See more at the above link.
ThePythonicCow
2nd April 2014, 21:25
In the shorter time scale of days, not the 1.5 years until the downturn that Martin Armstrong predicts in the previous post, we have JP Morgan escalating the financial/monetary war between the US Dollar and Russia.
From Monetary Blockade Of Russia Begins: JPMorgan Blocks Russian Money Transfer "Under Pretext" Of Sanctions (ZeroHedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-01/monetary-blockade-russia-begins-jpmorgan-blocks-russian-money-transfer-under-pretext) ...
This action by JPMorgan seems to have antagonized the Russian bear, unlike previous US "sanctions" that merely amused the bear.
From Furious Russia Will Retaliate Over "Illegal And Absurd" Payment Block By "Hostile" JPMorgan (ZeroHedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-02/furious-russia-will-retaliate-over-illegal-and-absurd-payment-block-hostile-jpmorgan):
Unlike previous responses to Russian sanctions by the West, which were largely taken as a joke by the Russian establishment, this time Russia is furious: according to Bloomberg, the Russian foreign ministry described the JPM decision as "illegal and absurd."
From JPMorgan Assailed by Russia as Bank Blocks Payment (Bloomberg) (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-01/jpmorgan-assailed-by-russian-ministry-for-blocking-transaction.html):
The biggest U.S. bank thwarted a remittance from the Russian embassy in Astana, Kazakhstan, to Sogaz Insurance Group “under the pretext of anti-Russian sanctions imposed by the United States,” the ministry said yesterday in a statement on its website. Sogaz lists OAO Bank Rossiya, a St. Petersburg-based lender facing U.S. sanctions over the Ukrainian crisis, as a strategic partner on its website.
Interfering with the transaction was an “absolutely unacceptable, illegal and absurd decision,” Alexander Lukashevich, a ministry spokesman, said in the statement.
U.S. President Barack Obama announced the action against Bank Rossiya last month as part of a broadening of sanctions that targeted government officials and allies of Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose associates own Rossiya. The embassy’s transaction was for less than $5,000 dollars, a person with knowledge of the dispute said, asking not to be identified because such transfers aren’t public.
Any hostile actions against the Russian diplomatic mission are not only a grossest violation of international law, but are also fraught with countermeasures that unavoidably will affect activities of the embassy and consulates of the U.S. in Russia,” Lukashevich said.
ThePythonicCow
21st April 2014, 18:41
Catherine Austin Fitts is quoted by Jim Willie, CB, in his latest (subscription) Hat Trick Letter (http://www.goldenjackass.com), as saying the following:
The people who are in control, in my experience, are quite intelligent. Of course they understand that when you centralize control of capital in this way, you destroy a great deal of it.
Small business is being targeted and destroyed. This is purposeful. It has been for years. Credit has been shut off on Main Street, done on purpose. So you start off with X utils of capital broadly dispersed, and to centralize control you shrink it, but end up with much tighter control. They know all of this, since done intentionally.
Control is the goal, not optimization. They optimize, but only when and where it serves their strategic goals. For purposes of understanding what is happening, it helps to shelve frustration and anger, head into the invention room, and say, the system is working perfectly. It is optimized perfectly for the goals of those managing the system. Then work from there.
I agree with Jim that capital is being stockpiled for a change in paradigm. When the change in paradigm comes, it will be presented as the kind of reform you describe. It will radically increase the power of the people who engineered the financial coup. A new crowd of puppets will be presented as the saviors and the old crowd of puppets will be blamed. And so life on planet earth goes on.
I continue to listen most closely to what Catherine Austin Fitts, Joseph P. Farrell, and Martin Armstrong say - three of the best.
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Here's a more extended interview of Catherine Austin Fitts, made a month ago, by the "Dark Journalist":
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The Dark Journalist provides this summary of the above interview on his Youtube upload:
Join Dark Journalist and Former Assistant Housing Secretary/Financial Expert Catherine Austin Fitts in this groundbreaking overview of the darkest secret of the Black Budget: The UFO Economy!
What does the economy, surveillance, advanced technology, a secret space program, NASA and the covert finance world have to do with the UFOs flying in our airspace?
Find out the shocking answer and learn about the forces behind the upcoming geopolitical and market events of 2014!
ThePythonicCow
25th April 2014, 09:12
I heard recently that the Chinese Yuan is now the second most commonly used currency in international trade, surpassing the Euro.
Hearing that, it became clear to me the ebb and flow that is likely for our monetary system.
Outrages over the fraud and brutality associated with the current world reserve currency, the US Dollar, are motivating other regional currencies to rise to similar power.
After a period of competing "regional" currencies (such as the Dollar, Yuan, Yen and Euro) for a period of time (one year, five years, ... beats me) further problems will arise ... severe global economic problems ... mandating a second change, to one world reserve currency over the regional currencies.
Martin Armstrong's Economic Confidence Model (http://armstrongeconomics.com/models/7219-2/) would place the greatest depth early in 2020.http://thepythoniccow.us/Armstrong-Economic-Confidence-Model.jpg
The Banksters are well versed in creating severe economic problems when they so choose, and they will substantially control the regional currencies, providing them the usual leverage they require for such operations.
The fear that more regional governments would be created, including in particular uniting the US, Canada and Mexico in a North American Union, was stoked by a major doom & gloom scenario that went swept through "conservative" leaning Americans in recent years. But it's not the additional regional governments that is the core concern; it's the additional regional currencies, such as the Dollar, Yuan and Euro. This further removes nations from control of their own currency, into nebulous institutions that invariably end up being controlled by those who most seek control.
As Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild remarked "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws".
That's what the regional currencies (including the US Dollar, after its demotion to the currency of the US and its few remaining close allies) will accomplish. It will cause sufficient change and turmoil to enable the Banksters to gain further control both over the US (which will have a depressed economy, once it has to pay more for imports) and over other nations (which will have to set up new financial infrastructure to handle the new currency arrangements.)
So it proceeds in four phases:
tear down the US Global Reserve Dollar hegemony,
build up (Bankster controlled) alternatives (US Local Dollar, Euro, BRICS, ...),
tear those down as well, and
replace with a global monetary system.
Each phase enables the bastard banksters to gain further control, and inflicts further suffering on humanity. However, if I understand Armstrong's Economic Confidence Model (see above), this will be followed by one grand, final burst of private (corporate controlled) economic activity, peaking in 2032 as a similar burst peaked in 1929.
The first of these two major tear downs appears to be proceeding without the need for a major war (outside of the vicious and fraudulent War on Islam Terror) or a false flag alien invasion. Recall that Islam is the last great bastion of support for non-debt based money on the planet.
I am less confident that the second major tear down will do as well.
This reminds me of the Great Depression, which tore down the national gold backed currencies, followed by the Second World War, which lay the foundation for a US Dollar Reserve currency as the basis for international trade.
By the end of the Second World War, the Banksters had successfully completed vacuuming up most of the gold held in the major vaults across Europe and Asia, sending it to New York, and then absconding with it The Japanese were sub-contracted to steal China's gold, and the Germans to steal Europe's gold, before they both lost to the Americans.
I anticipate that the movement of 10 or 20 thousand tons of gold towards the BRICS nations, China especially, is not a long term change in direction, but a shorter term manipulation of gold to gain better control over the BRICS nations, especially China.
Just as the Banksters were happy to remove silver from common monetary use in the US with the Crime of 1873 (http://www.micheloud.com/FXM/MH/crime/crime.htm), so will they be happy to continue removing gold from common international monetary use in present times. They can extend and withdraw credit (create and destroy debt) more easily, in the comfort of their air conditioned offices, with far greater control, than they can mine gold from the earth, or confiscate private or government held gold.
Anyone trying to preserve wealth using gold will have to transfer their wealth to other forms at the right time, or lose it. The optimum time might have already passed, when gold peaked at about $US 1900/ounce in 2011, though I'd guess there is one more higher peak left. At this moment, gold is at $US 1294/ounce (or, adjusting for inflation, roughly $1100 to $1230 per ounce using 2011 US Dollars, depending on whose inflation stats you use.)
The Roaring Twenties, in which many Americans were investing in the stock market using borrowed money (on "margin"), reminds me of the great housing boom of the previous couple of decades, in which many Americans were investing in the real estate market using borrowed money (mortgages.) In both cases, when the bank both calls in those loans and crashes the economy, stifling the cash flows funding payment, it sucks to be in debt and one cannot even begin to sell one's assets in a sufficiently timely and profitable manner so as to cover one's debts. The bank ends up owning the collateral.
I don't know how the previous paragraph maps to other nations ... sorry.
But in any case, if this is a replay of the period of 1921 through 1945, then we have some years of global economic collapse ahead of us, followed by some major world-wide trauma, followed by the dawning of a New World Monetary System, controlled by the Banksters, using debt as the basis for money.
Where is Jesus Christ (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21:12-13) when you need him?
https://www.traditionalright.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/jesus-whip.jpg
ThePythonicCow
26th April 2014, 08:43
The clearest description of our current economic difficulties that I have seen recently can be found in this new "Daily Bell" article: Keynesianism's Ugly Secret (http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/35244/Nelson-Hultberg-Keynesianisms-Ugly-Secret/).
It's long enough that I won't quote it all here, and I don't see how I could easily excerpt it, but here's one key point to look for in this article: "malinvestment."
A debt-based monetary system introduces money into the system not where it will likely be most productive of future goods and services for the economy, but where it portends to yield the best interest in the present. Eventually a society ends up with a vast over supply of empty shopping malls, McMansions and (in China at least) empty cities, while manufacturing is concentrated into massive environmental bio-hazards.
The malinvestment resulting from a debt based monetary system is the economic equivalent of eating junk food. It might "taste good", and it might be heavily promoted and widely distributed, but debt-based money eventually destroys the health of an economy.
For example, the United States can no longer produce much of what it consumes, nor even anything that it might fairly trade for what it consumes. Note that I don't count military invasions, spying, financial fraud, black ops, and propaganda to be "fair trade" :).
Eventually this imbalance must redress itself. Given the massive trade imbalances in the entire world that are driven by the imbalanced economies of the United States, the resulting detox is almost certainly going to be painful for much of the world.
ThePythonicCow
12th May 2014, 05:19
I posted a good update in what I see coming in another thread: Brief warning from Lindsey Williams (2 May 2014) -- Post #52 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71073-Brief-warning-from-Lindsey-Williams--2-May-2014-&p=833411&viewfull=1#post833411).
That post explains the important properties of any currency, the coming Great Depression, and the replacement of the US Dollar with several major regional or national currencies as the basis of the world monetary system.
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