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Cidersomerset
13th March 2014, 15:24
Pretexts for War: How the public is deceived into fighting

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Published on 11 Mar 2014


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When Secretary of State John Kerry made his now infamous statement about Russia's
actions in Ukraine, the hypocrisy was immediately apparent to all but the most clueless
of viewers. But perhaps Kerry wasn't so wrong to expect the public to let him get away
with such a transparently hypocritical statement. After all, the public have always been
happy to go along with every pretext for war presented to them for decade after decade.

Find out more about the lies that have lead the world to war time and again over the
past century in this week's BoilingFrogsPost.com Eyeopener report.

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There have been many excuses over the centuries but one of the odd ones was..


War of Jenkins' Ear, Smuggling, Crusoe, and Slavery......eight years after the
incident it was used as an excuse to start a real war over trade rights.

Nothing new look at Iraq , Afghanistan , Libya all with important or potential
raw materials or oil. The template is a old as the hills and they are still doing it.

The economic hitmen and neo -con, New World order is just an extension
of the old Days of Empire.

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Frederick Jackson
13th March 2014, 19:40
I just saw a ticker tape on CNN news quoting Angela Merkel to the effect that the US is acting like so many countries did in the lead ups to wars in the 19th and 20th centuries. I have not yet been able to find the story on the internet.

It is curious how the US has historically so much pushed the idea of "self determination" that now it cares more about "territorial integrity". If you check the demographics of Ukraine, you might just wonder why the eastern third of the country is not now a part of the Russian Federation.

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2014/02/world/ukraine-divided/

Mixteca
13th March 2014, 22:15
The thing that makes the idea of "self determination" very tricky in former Soviet states is the fact that the Soviets were so brutal in their annexation of these places to begin with. When I was in Moldova and heard the older women tell stories of what was done to their families - the mass deportations in trains to Siberia with no food and no clothes except what they were wearing (something I had previously associated only with Nazis) I was truly shocked. The Soviets then systematically moved large portions of ethnic Russians into all these territories. So now there are enclaves with predominantly ethic Russian populations in areas that are historically Ukranian (or Moldovan, or Latvian, etc..) The tension between historically native populations and ethinically Russian populations in former Soviet states is problematic in the best of times, and all due to the deliberate and brutal actions of a series of Soviet leaders.

So I personally a of the belief (not that anyone would care about my opinion on this matter) that the only real way to get an honest idea of self determination in a former Soviet state is to ask the entire area. Have a referendum for all of Ukraine on the Crimea. Have a referendum in all of Moldova on Transnistria, etc.

Frederick Jackson
14th March 2014, 00:59
Yes Mixteca, the Soviet forced migrations of whole peoples was wholesale and horrific, and it does make the idea of "self determination" particularly difficult. It was mentioned on TV how the Crimean Tatars who were forced to move as far as Vladivostok have only recently been returning. The problem of non native Russians exists in the Baltics. I had an acquaintance who did his doctoral dissertation on exactly this subject, the forced migrations in the USSR. His grandparents I believe were Ukrainian Germans. You may have even met him. He came to MIsha's coffee house for quite a while. His name was Otto. Last I heard he was on an uncle's ranch in Arizona.