Ukraine Webcast: Summary of all events to date from legit Ukraine Gov't

[GlassSteagallfan]

This webcast, in my opinion, gives all the technical facts of all the events which brought Ukraine to everyone's attention. As normally expected, the west is slanting the current mainstream news. The following webcast, by former Ukrainian Presidential Candidate Natalia Vitrenko and featured by LPACTV, is a chance for the west to see the events from a more truthful and critical perspective.

The video is translated to English languague.

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Natalia Vitrenko's Paris Webcast: No to the Nazi Coup in Ukraine
Published at LPAC on 3 March 2014
Presentations by Natalia Vitrenko, Volodymyr Marchenko, and Col. Valeri Sergachov on the current coup in Ukraine. Their presentations were webcast on Feb. 24, 2014.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbDn-srzGIA&feature=player_embedded

[Frederick Jackson]

Already deeply suspicious of western policy in Ukraine, I now see from this video just how much has been hidden from us by the mainstream media. The demonstrators were made to look like poor innocents. The footage here makes it pretty clear this was not the case. On the contrary, the unarmed police were on the defensive. I had some idea before of the possibly anti democratic forces that had taken over Kiev and invaded the pariiament and pushed constitutional changes outside of a constitutional framework, but I really had no idea of just how right wing nationalist and xenophobic these forces were. The core is neo Nazi right down to the arm bands. Imagine an armed mob taking over the Capitol building and proclaiming a new constitution! This video helps me to see just how really bad the situation is in Ukraine and how bad our policy is there. And that it is no understatement that a neo Nazi takeover of the country has occurred with US and EU support. And we wonder why Russia may be concerned?

[ThePythonicCow]

This webcast, in my opinion, gives all the technical facts of all the events which brought Ukraine to everyone's attention.
Excellent - bump!

[Rollo]

We can easily see how Ukrainian Neo-Nazis are used by the EU and US to help them out with their NWO agenda.
For what, money and power that they will never have as behind the curtain are those who pull the strings.

I will make an intention and send love with good thoughts against this agenda for the balance.

[Hervé]

The Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told (http://scgnews.com/the-ukraine-crisis-what-youre-not-being-told)

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The European and American public are being systematically lied to about the Ukraine crisis.

In this video we're going to provide you with compelling evidence that the crimes against humanity committed in Kiev earlier this year were in fact committed by the new coalition government and that officials in the E.U. and the United States knew full well who committed these crimes and that they are protecting and financially supporting the real criminals.


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On February 20th of 2013 the world was shocked by video footage of snipers firing on protesters in Kiev Ukraine. Twenty one people were murdered, and it was widely assumed that President Victor Yanukovich and his supporters were behind the attacks. However a phone conversation between EU foreign policy chief Cathy Ashton and Estonia's foreign minister Urmas Paet leaked to the public on March 5th reveals that the snipers in were actually from the new coalition government, and that Western diplomats knew this and covered it up.

The short version of the leaked call: (mp3 in original article)


Urmas Paet: "All the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among police men and people in the street, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides."

Cathy Ashton: "Well that's, yeah..."

Urmas Paet: "And she also showed me some photos and she said that as medical doctor, she can say that it is the same handwriting..."

Cathy Ashton: "Yeah..."

Urmas Paet: "Same type of bullets... and it's really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don't want to investigate what exactly happened. So that there is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovich, but it was somebody from the new coalition." The long version of the leaked call: (mp3 in original article)

For some reason the U.S. media didn't think that little detail was worth covering.
Related: Ukraine: Armed Men Seize Crimean Parliament Building & Raise Russian Flag - Russia Scrambles Fighter Jets At Border (http://scgnews.com/ukraine-armed-men-seize-crimean-parliament-building-raise-russian-flag-russia-scrambles-fighter-jets)

But wait… I thought the opposition were peaceful activists who just wanted a chance to join the European Union.

Well yeah, that's the official narrative that the U.S. media outlets are peddling, but real story is much more ominous. It turns out that the most powerful and influential contingent in the opposition is a coalition of literal fascists and Neo-Nazis, and they aren't peaceful. In fact they are extremely brutal.


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Related: The Extreme Right Emerging as the Dominant Voice in Ukraine (http://scgnews.com/the-extreme-right-emerging-as-the-dominant-voice-in-ukraine)
The most prominent among these groups is an organization called Svoboda. The Svoboda party which traces its roots to the Ukrainian partisan army of World War II, was loosely allied with Nazi Germany. Until 2004, Svoboda had been called the Social-Nationalist Party, a deliberate reference to the National Socialism of the Nazis.

We're not throwing the term Neo-Nazi around as an empty slur here. The leader of Svoboda, Oleh Tyahnybok, has openly targeted Jews and ethnic Russians in Ukraine for many years. In 2004 he was kicked out of Viktor Yushenko's government for a speech calling for Ukrainians to fight against a "Muscovite-Jewish mafia", and in 2005 he signed his name to an open letter to the leadership of Ukraine entitled "Stop the Criminal Activities of Organised Jewry".

Related: Washington's Role in the Ukrainian Coup & How it May Spin Out of Control (http://scgnews.com/washingtons-role-in-the-ukrainian-coup-how-it-may-spin-out-of-control)
And none of this was a secret. The BBC was already reporting on the danger that Svoboda's rise posed back in 2012, and the EU passed a resolution that same year condemning Svoboda, as "racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic". Yet somehow the U.S. government thought it was appropriate to back these extremists.

This is a picture of Victoria Nuland from the U.S. State Department meeting with Oleh Tyahnybok in February, and this is a picture of Senator John McCain sharing a stage with Tyahnybok in December.

Related: China Warns West that Sanctions on Russia Could Spiral into Chaos - U.S. & E.U. Indicate Sanctions to Begin Monday (http://scgnews.com/china-warns-west-that-sanctions-on-russia-could-spiral-into-chaos-us-eu-indicate-sanctions-to-begin)

Why would the U.S. government work with Neo-Nazis?

Because they thought they could control the situation. They thought they could install their puppets behind the scenes and manipulate the situation in their favor. This isn't a theory. That same Victoria Nulland who met with Svoboda in February was caught in another leaked phone call discussing who would they would put in power.


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Related: Videos From Ukraine that The U.S. Media Will Never Show You (http://scgnews.com/videos-from-ukraine-that-the-us-media-will-never-show-you)
The mainstream media tried to draw your attention away from the important part of this conversation by focusing on the fact that she used a cuss word when referring to the E.U.

The U.S. government thought they could control this beast. But they were wrong. Svoboda and the Right Sektor are not toys to be played with. These groups are armed, they're forceful, and they view this crisis as an opportunity to reshape Ukraine in their own image.

This video shows a prominent leader from the Right Sektor, Alexander Muzychko, brandishing an Ak-47 in parliament letting them know who is in charge.


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This is the same Alexander Muzychko who publicly vowed to fight "against Jews communists, and Russian scum" for as long as he lives.


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Apparently the U.S. government has been a little slow to catch on to the fact that their hand has been exposed. In March a senior U.S. official told Reuters that "Since entering the Ukrainian Parliament in October 2012, the Svoboda leadership has been working to take their party in a more moderate direction and to become a modern, European mainstream political party, The leadership has been much more vigilant about expelling or otherwise punishing individual members who engage in xenophobic behavior or rhetoric."

Related: Russia Threatens to Drop The Dollar and Crash The U.S. Economy if Sanctions Are Imposed - Obama Signs Sanctions Anyway (http://scgnews.com/russia-threatens-to-drop-the-dollar-and-crash-the-us-economy-if-sanctions-are-imposed-obama-signs-sa)

So it's ok to use known Neo-Nazi groups to topple a government as long as their leaders keep their people from saying anything stupid in front of cameras for a few months? The reality of the matter is that as ridiculous as this assertion makes Washington look, they are trapped. They can't deny that Svoboda and the Right Sektor are running the coalition government when Svoboda holds five senior posts including the deputy prime minister position and the Right Sektor's Dmytro Yarosh is now the country's Deputy Secretary of National Security.

But what about that dramatic video "I am a Ukrainian" that went viral as this crisis was unfolding. It was so compelling, so heart wrenching. Yeah, but who made it? Did you notice the link in the description? Awhispertoaroar... who are these people? Oh look, a link in the description. Let's click it. They have a website and a behind the scenes section. Oh it list the film makers. Who's this here? Larry Diamond, inspiration and executive producer. He's also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the National Endowment for Democracy and an advisor for the U.S. State Department. You know the funny thing about the National Endowment for Regime Change Democracy is that even though they call themselves an NGO they get virtually all of it's money from the U.S. federal government. You can verify this by downloading their annual financial disclosures. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the NED has been pouring massive amounts of money into Ukraine to "strengthen democracy and civil society"?

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That sound nice doesn't it? Democracy... civil society. Of course by now you've realized that when they talk about spreading democracy what they really mean is regime change, and they are willing to work with the most despicable elements when it's expedient.

It's exactly the same game they played in Syria. The U.S. government funded known extremists, literal terrorist organizations who have been documented massacring whole towns. They gave them money, they gave them weapons, and even after those extremists used sarin gas on thousands of civilians and got caught by the U.N., Washington still covered for them. Even to this day they are still funding those murderers, they are still training them, and they are still sending them weapons. There's a word for this kind of activity: state backed terrorism.

Related: Crimean Parliament Votes to Secede from Ukraine - U.S. Officials Preach about Constitutionality (http://scgnews.com/crimean-parliament-votes-to-secede-from-ukraine-us-officials-preach-about-constitutionality)

But the situation in Ukraine didn't unfold as planned. The parliament of Crimea, in the South of Ukraine voted to secede, and they are putting the decision up for a public referendum. The U.S. claims that this referendum is "unconstitutional" and says they won't recognize Crimea's decision as legitimate regardless of the outcome. So a foreign backed Neo-Nazi coup is constitutional, but a declaration of independence placed to a general vote is not? Seriously? That's the best you guys can do? Who writes these scripts?

Take a step back and look at the pattern.

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The real stakes of this drama are much bigger than Ukraine or Syria and these are not random and isolated events. We are witnessing the final stages of a geopolitical chess game that is designed to end in war. But in order to succeed they need to convince you, the public, that they didn't see this coming. They need you to believe that the other side was the aggressor. They are counting on you not paying attention to the fact that Obama signed an order targeting Russia with sanctions this past week and revoking the visas of a number of Russian diplomats. They are counting on you not noticing that Russia had warned that such a move would result in Russia dropping the dollar and encouraging others to do so as well. They're counting on you being too naive to realize that economic warfare invites physical warfare. They think you're too stupid to connect the dots.

Prove them wrong.

Related: BREAKING: Leaked Phone Call Reveals New Coalition Government Was Behind Sniper Shootings in Ukraine (http://scgnews.com/breaking-leaked-phone-call-reveals-new-coalition-was-behind-sniper-shootings-in-ukraine)


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Crimean Parliament votes to secede: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/07/world/europe/ukraine-sanctions.html?_r=0 (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ueXRpbWVzLmNvbS8yMDE0LzAzLzA3L3dvcmxkL2V1cm9wZS91a3JhaW5lLXNhbmN0aW9ucy5odG1sP19yPTA, )

The U.S. Says they will not recognize the results of a referendum: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-09/blinken-says-u-s-won-t-recogniz... (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ibG9vbWJlcmcuY29tL25ld3MvMjAxNC0wMy0wOS9ibGlua2VuLXNheXMtdS1zLXdvbi10LXJlY29nbml6ZS1j cmltZWEtcmVmZXJlbmR1bS10by1zZWNlZGUuaHRtbA,,)

General Dempsey says the U.S. may take military action in Ukraine: www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/dempsey-us-military-will-fulfill-treaty-obligations-to-nato-allies (http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/dempsey-us-military-will-fulfill-treaty-obligations-to-nato-allies)

Kerry condemns 'aggression' by Russia: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101464738 (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5jbmJjLmNvbS9pZC8xMDE0NjQ3Mzg,)

Russia warns the U.S. that they will drop the dollar if sanctions are imposed, and says they will call for others to drop the dollar as well: http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/03/04/ukraine-crisis-russia-us-idINDE... (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL2luLnJldXRlcnMuY29tL2FydGljbGUvMjAxNC8wMy8wNC91a3JhaW5lLWNyaXNpcy1ydXNzaWEtdXMtaWRJTkRFRUEy MzA1SjIwMTQwMzA0)

Obama pretends he didn't notice and signs sanctions order targeting Russia anyway: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/06/us-visa-restrictions-offici... (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy50aGVndWFyZGlhbi5jb20vd29ybGQvMjAxNC9tYXIvMDYvdXMtdmlzYS1yZXN0cmljdGlvbnMtb2ZmaWNpYWxz LXVrcmFpbmUtcnVzc2lh)

Russia warns Kerry that sanctions will boomerang (and he's right): http://www.cnbc.com/id/101474305 (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5jbmJjLmNvbS9pZC8xMDE0NzQzMDU,)

Syrian Rebels Massacred Entire Villages: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/10/syria-alawite-massacre_n_493139... (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5odWZmaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vMjAxNC8wMy8xMC9zeXJpYS1hbGF3aXRlLW1hc3NhY3JlX25fNDkzMTM5NC5o dG1s)

And yet the U.S. and Israel are currently increasing their support for the rebels: http://scgnews.com/syria-us-and-israel-organizing-major-offensive-agains... (http://scgnews.com/syria-us-and-israel-organizing-major-offensive-against-assad-in-the-south)

Congress secretly approves U.S. weapons flow to 'moderate' Syrian rebels: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-usa-syria-rebels-idUSBREA0Q... (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5yZXV0ZXJzLmNvbS9hcnRpY2xlLzIwMTQvMDEvMjcvdXMtdXNhLXN5cmlhLXJlYmVscy1pZFVTQlJFQTBRMVMz MjAxNDAxMjc,)

China and Russia are in Agreement about the situation in Ukraine: http://news.sky.com/story/1219922/russia-and-china-in-agreement-over-ukr... (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL25ld3Muc2t5LmNvbS9zdG9yeS8xMjE5OTIyL3J1c3NpYS1hbmQtY2hpbmEtaW4tYWdyZWVtZW50LW92ZXItdWtyYWlu ZQ,,)

China - Largest Foreign Creditor of U.S. : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-15/china-retains-position-as-the-l... (http://scgnews.com/content_sources/13285/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ibG9vbWJlcmcuY29tL25ld3MvMjAxMy0wNS0xNS9jaGluYS1yZXRhaW5zLXBvc2l0aW9uLWFzLXRoZS1sYXJn ZXN0LWZvcmVpZ24tY3JlZGl0b3Itb2YtdS1zLS5odG1s)

[GlassSteagallfan]

For some reason the U.S. media didn't think that little detail was worth covering.

The U.S. media is not allowed to think.

[Rollo]

McCain Calls For U.S. Military Support To Ukraine

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[sigma6]

Already deeply suspicious of western policy in Ukraine, I now see from this video just how much has been hidden from us by the mainstream media. The demonstrators were made to look like poor innocents. The footage here makes it pretty clear this was not the case. On the contrary, the unarmed police were on the defensive. I had some idea before of the possibly anti democratic forces that had taken over Kiev and invaded the pariiament and pushed constitutional changes outside of a constitutional framework, but I really had no idea of just how right wing nationalist and xenophobic these forces were. The core is neo Nazi right down to the arm bands. Imagine an armed mob taking over the Capitol building and proclaiming a new constitution! This video helps me to see just how really bad the situation is in Ukraine and how bad our policy is there. And that it is no understatement that a neo Nazi takeover of the country has occurred with US and EU support. And we wonder why Russia may be concerned?

Or more to the point just how bad the propaganda machine is in the WEST... Karen Hudes (as the highest rank whistle blower) and all the rest are right, in that they are fully owned and operated by the Jesuit SUPER ENTITY (intertwined boards of directors of all the commercial pyramids (I mean corporations)

The US being a criminal syndicate itself, will install anybody as long as they are willing to take a bribe... what else do you expect from a crime syndicate?

The pattern is crystal clear now... Look at all the previous CHAOS governments Al CIAda, Nazis in NASA, Libya, the constitution in Iraq (look up the legal definition of the word "constitutor" (one who pays for another) They are trying to set up a criminal network of governments to expand their own criminal network before the inevitable collapse when they will be forced to do everything in back rooms through their criminal plants in the government and military.

Unless the people wake up and take notice.

AND BRILLIANT POST BY AMZER ZO

I am posting new posts on some videos I have watched about recent Karen Hudes interviews and Karl Lentz that I think everyone should see (if they aren't already posted...)

Karen is exposing the fraud in clearer and more succinct terms... And Karl did an amazing interview showing a practical DOABLE application of taking control in a corporate contract court (statutory) by employing KEY words that invoke a COMMON LAW court, where the Person is converted into a MAN...

Will update links here:...

Highly Suggested YouTubes On Recent Karen Hudes Interviews And Introducing Karl Lentz...
on Grannyfanny's link in Conspiracy Section (my favourite haha)
Re: Best yet from Karen Hudes (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68234-Best-yet-from-Karen-Hudes&p=810014&viewfull=1#post810014)
raw link
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68234-Best-yet-from-Karen-Hudes&p=810014&viewfull=1#post810014

(there is a link back reference to this post there, so you don't lose track ;)

[sigma6]

McCain Calls For U.S. Military Support To Ukraine

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McCain, what an arse wipe.

[Hervé]

95.7% of Crimeans in referendum voted to join Russia - preliminary results (http://rt.com/news/crimea-vote-join-russia-210/)

Published time: March 16, 2014 18:07
Edited time: March 17, 2014 01:32
Get short URL (http://rt.com/news/crimea-vote-join-russia-210/)

People celebrate as they wait for the announcement of preliminary results of today's referendum on Lenin Square in the Crimean capital of Simferopol March 16, 2014 (Reuters / Thomas Peter)


http://rt.com/news/crimea-vote-join-russia-210/

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Over 95 percent of voters in the Crimean referendum have answered ‘yes’ to the autonomous republic joining Russia and less than 4 percent of the vote participants want the region to remain part of Ukraine, according to preliminary results.

With over 75 percent of the votes already counted, preliminary result show that 95.7 percent of voters said 'yes' to the reunion of the republic with Russia as a constituent unit of the Russian Federation. Only 3.2 percent of the ballots were cast for staying with Ukraine as an Autonomous Republic with broader rights. The remaining 1.1 percent of the ballots were declared invalid.

The overall voter turnout in the referendum on the status of Crimea is 81,37%, according to the head of the Crimean parliament’s commission on the referendum, Mikhail Malyshev.

The preliminary results of the popular vote were announced during a meeting in the center of Sevastopol, the city that hosts Russia's Black Sea fleet. The final results will be announced at a press conference at 7:00 GMT on Monday.

Over a half of the Tatars living in the port city took part in the referendum, with the majority of them voting in favor of joining Russia, reports Itar-Tass citing a representative of the Tatar community Lenur Usmanov. About 40% of Crimean Tatars (http://rt.com/news/crimea-tatar-rights-guarantee-122/) went to polling stations on Sunday, the republic’s prime minister Sergey Aksyonov said.

In Simferopol, the capital of the republic, at least 15,000 have gathered to celebrate the referendum in central Lenin square and people reportedly keep arriving.

Demonstrators, waving Russian and Crimean flags, were watching a live concert while waiting for the announcement of preliminary results of the voting.


Full article: http://rt.com/news/crimea-vote-join-russia-210/

[Tesseract]

Poor Ukraine: you lost your democracy, you lost Crimea, and you gained an IMF debt.

[Tintin]

:bump: for those of us interested in the history :thumbsup:

[Bill Ryan]

:bump: for those of us interested in the history :thumbsup:In her live podcast a couple of days ago, Ania K started off by asking Scott Ritter what history books 1000 years from now would say about the Ukraine conflict. (What an inspired question!)

Scott's detailed and impassioned reply was over half an hour long, in which I learned a number of things I was unaware of before. :muscle:

What will people read about the Russia-Ukraine conflict 1000 years from now?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtWd5PMjBM

[HopSan]

:bump: for those of us interested in the history :thumbsup:In her live podcast a couple of days ago, Ania K started off by asking Scott Ritter what history books 1000 years from now would say about the Ukraine conflict. (What an inspired question!)

Scott's detailed and impassioned reply was over half an hour long

(Side note, about how much to give credence to whom...)

Ania K can be trusted, says silent tingle in my head. I had a Polish serious girlfriend in 90's, so I feel I understand her behaviour. Polish people had a very bad experience with Soviets, but Ania recently even traveled to Moscow and enjoyed a lot.

I think that tells much about current Russia.

Scott Ritter seems to sense her trustworthiness, and so does Andrei Martyanov.
They would talk to her forever... And so would I.

[Violet3]

Wow yeah, I learned a lot of history from that first half hour, Scott really warmed up as he went along and actually it was a bit shocking in part but quite riveting. Highly recommended.