The Shootdown of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370

[Matt P]

I know many here will be checking VT anyway but thought I'd post it. Whatever you may think of Michael Shrimpton, it's a unique perspective and perhaps worth considering. And by "worth considering" I don't mean I believe his take. Just that it's an interesting addition to the discussion. Sometimes you learn something by who's trying to get you to believe something else.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/15/the-shootdown-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370/

[Elainie]

That's actually the first plausible (to me) *conspiracy* theory on flight 370 I've read to date. Admittedly when we first heard about 370 my older girls and I thought it was a Chinese missile that brought it down. I just don't know what to think anymore.

[mosquito]

Well, sorry to disappoint you, but there is only one country which has experience of shooting down passenger jets, having done so on at least 3 occasions, 2 of which WERE THEIR OWN. If you don't know who I'm talking about, it only adds fuel to the widely held belief that Americans are incredibly ignorant.

And .... If MH370 had indeed been shot down, there would be evidence for it.

Actually, this is probably a good place to make a prediction - that the USA will indeed shoot down yet another commercial airliner and lay the blame on China. This will most likely happen in the South China sea or in the disputed area North of Taiwan.

[eaglespirit]

You do understand that us U.S. types that are on this side of the equation of changing the world for the 'higher' better are NOT connected to the mayhem that occurs from sources on this side of the ocean.
Those 'sources' are operations that have quite an interesting selection of very special ops military and hidden government types from all over the world(and other worlds too)...probably some from your very own country too!

[Airwooz]

Many western would like to think it is China or Russia or Iran that's behind all the conspiracy, Chinese does the opposite...that's why we always draw into conflict against each others.........and those globalist will rise from the chaos

[ghostrider]

Naturally the Americans want to conceal the truth and act by some flimsy explanation because it is their own fault that the disaster happened.
The truth is that the U.S. Navy shot an attack missile on their airplane where it was met by this and brought to an explosion.
July 17th 1996 a bowing 747 shot down ... 230 people on board all killed - To our knowledge, an espionage-engaged person was on the airplane and was carrying important data that had been stolen from the American Secret Service.
That this person was on board is without question, but whether a deliberate launching took place regarding this is still unclear.
The possibility exists that many people were sacrificed because of a single spy. from the plejaren contact reports ...

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they did it before , they could have done it again with the Malaysia flight ...

[Fellow Aspirant]

Is there any evidence that MH370 was shot down?

If so, where can I find the evidence?

B.

[Mixteca]

Naturally the Americans want to conceal the truth and act by some flimsy explanation because it is their own fault that the disaster happened..

I for one would like it if all Americans weren't lumped together. I am not the federal government. I am not my state. I am not my city. I am one person with one voice that may or may not agree with the 350 million other voices to be heard in the United States.

[cursichella1]

Naturally the Americans want to conceal the truth and act by some flimsy explanation because it is their own fault that the disaster happened.
The truth is that the U.S. Navy shot an attack missile on their airplane where it was met by this and brought to an explosion.
July 17th 1996 a bowing 747 shot down ... 230 people on board all killed - To our knowledge, an espionage-engaged person was on the airplane and was carrying important data that had been stolen from the American Secret Service.
That this person was on board is without question, but whether a deliberate launching took place regarding this is still unclear.
The possibility exists that many people were sacrificed because of a single spy. from the plejaren contact reports ...

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they did it before , they could have done it again with the Malaysia flight ...

And isn't interesting that the Official investigation into the missing airliner is being lead by none other than our FAA and NTSB, British AAIB and Malaysian authorities? Hearing that kind of made the whole thing more suspect..., that and the transponder business. (Why can transponders be shut off? Doesn't that capability sort of defeat the purpose of a transponder?)

[ThePythonicCow]

Naturally the Americans want to conceal the truth and act by some flimsy explanation because it is their own fault that the disaster happened..

I for one would like it if all Americans weren't lumped together. I am not the federal government. I am not my state. I am not my city. I am one person with one voice that may or may not agree with the 350 million other voices to be heard in the United States.

I think sometimes it is sufficiently clear when people, myself included, refer to specific nationalities such as the Americans, Chinese or Russians, in deeply derogatory terms, that we are referring to the governments and power elites of those nations, not to ourselves, the residents of those nations.

I do not consider such references to necessarily be "lumping together", but rather convenient shorthand phrases.

That's one great benefit of the World Wide Web - us ordinary people world wide are learning, from day to day interactions, that most ordinary people world wide are "good folks", just like our neighbors in the old fashioned physical realm.

[Cardillac]

although I assume the following may have already been included in various threads on this subject I think Joseph Farrell's insights on this subject are absolutely essential listening:

http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/JosephPFarrell/JosephPFarrell_CovertWars_BreakAwayCivilizations3_14Mar2014_TBS.mp3

no-one connects dots better than Farrell-

stay well all-

Larry

[ParamDevi]

For your discernment,
Disappearence of Malaysian flight MH370 is a 'different' kind of occurrence ... the flat out disappearance of the plane with no trace, at least no true trace I'm aware of at this time.

For your discernment, following are the final few paragraphs from a channeling via Will Berlinghof of Awareness, a consciousness I have been aware of for maybe two years. The channeler, the consciousness and the group that supports the information/wisdom coming forth and being shared have been active for many years ... I am posting only 'bottom-line' information. If you choose to read more visit the website ... http://rainbowphoenixcom

"It is not the purpose of this Awareness at this time to predict outcomes. It is simply sharing alternative information, the information of possibilities, the information of alternatives that this Awareness is engaged in at this time. Still this Awareness does state that as it is now, as seen by this Awareness, those aboard the aircraft are still alive even though they are located elsewhere, and that there are timelines seen by this Awareness that will see these ones returned.

Unfortunately it is also seen by this Awareness timelines where these ones will be sacrificed and will not return. At this time it is not a certainty as to which timeline will be the prevalent one or the one the majority will experience. Therefore, in terms of an individual recognition of this matter, it is again recommended that one holds that there is more out there, that other factors are playing out, and that the reality that the individual wishes to experience would be a reality that sees the return of the aircraft and all aboard.

That this is the strongest action individuals can take at this time: to energize a timeline of an event that would see the return of the aircraft and all aboard. However at this time this Awareness will leave it at that and ask all to stay positive and focused upon those who have been used in this way and in this event, and to visualize the reality of their return.

That this will of course prove much. That the reality that so many are still clinging to that has been presented to one and all as the only reality, that it will be shown that it is not the case, and that this will of course open all of the doors to all other events that could occur. It is always a matter of focus and choice as to that which one wishes to experience in terms of who have reached a point of awareness that is great enough to understand this concept and principle and to accept it and to work it. There is much more that is yet to come forward but at this time, this Awareness feels complete upon this issue and upon this matter, and with this matter.

Thank you, Awareness, that is very, very much appreciated, and it is hoped that all who hear or read this message that they will offer their prayers and positive energies to those onboard the craft, that they are returned safely. Thank you very much for the information. It is appreciated. The Law of Gratitude is invoked."

http://rainbowphoenixcom.ipage.com/Archives/20140313P.pdf

blessings ...

[ghostrider]

Naturally the Americans want to conceal the truth and act by some flimsy explanation because it is their own fault that the disaster happened..

I for one would like it if all Americans weren't lumped together. I am not the federal government. I am not my state. I am not my city. I am one person with one voice that may or may not agree with the 350 million other voices to be heard in the United States.

Sorry , this is the words of Quetzal the plejaren ET , they speak of everything from the viewpoint of an American spy did this then it came from the americans ... they feel we are responsible for what our government does ... it is our government after all ...that's the way ET views things ... but I agree , it bugs me too ...

[ghostrider]

Is there any evidence that MH370 was shot down?

If so, where can I find the evidence?

B.
an airplane is missing for more than 24 hrs , and nobody can find it ... it has a blackbox , we have global eyes on everything ... tells you all need ... they don't want the plane found or what happened to be in the public domain ...
bet everyone on the plane had a cell phone with gps that can be tracked even when the phone is off ...

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:

I do not have any inside information. I do not know anymore than anyone else here but I do put my perspective to this event.

The reason the governments involved can't find this plane is because they have a set of protocols and only follow those already set protocols. They can't seem to deviate from the past. This is not terrorism as has been mentioned in the news today! This is Capitalism at it's finest.....whoever is responsible received a Big cash prize when they lead this Boeing 777 away from prying eyes. The only people that could even think of doing something so huge is:
1. governments
2. wealthy businesses
3. wealthy businessmen
4. or a combination of the 3

This crime would take alot of planning, money and insider information. Just think about it....this plane is worth a few hundred million. This is about the ultimate heist.
Why did they take a Malaysian airliner I have no idea?
Why did they take an aircraft full of passengers....I think this way there would be no suspision until they are already safely where they want to be. ( I hope and personally think that the passengers are going to surface soon will a big tale to tell. )

This is my take on the story. Remember cash is king and this aircraft is worth alot more cash than most people will ever see in one place.

May the outcome be a good one for all the passengers and crew!

chancy

[ghostrider]

Just found out that 20 people on that flight were engineer types that work in RF ( radio frequency) industry for the same company ... interesting , since free energy patents were released today maybe , it has a connection ...

[Frederick Jackson]

although I assume the following may have already been included in various threads on this subject I think Joseph Farrell's insights on this subject are absolutely essential listening:

http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/JosephPFarrell/JosephPFarrell_CovertWars_BreakAwayCivilizations3_14Mar2014_TBS.mp3

no-one connects dots better than Farrell-

stay well all-

Larry

I think it must have occurred to every Avalonian that something very strange may possibly have happened to flight 370. As Farrell makes clear, with the passage of time it behooves us to consider more seriously just such a possibility, be it UFO abduction or slipping through a dimensional crack, whatever. :alien::alien::alien:

[mosquito]

Is there any evidence that MH370 was shot down?



None whatsoever. Unless the situation has changed within the last few hours.

Unfortunately though, a great many people believe "Veterans Today" to be a source of unquestionable truth :o

[araucaria]

this plane is worth a few hundred million. This is about the ultimate heist.
Why did they take a Malaysian airliner I have no idea?

No, chancy, I'm afraid you don't. A few hundred million is not "the ultimate heist", it is peanuts.

To put it in some perspective: on 9/10/01 Donald Rumsfeld reported on the disappearance of 2.3 trillion dollars. You see, you are out by at least four orders of magnitude compared with 13 years ago.

[chancy]

this plane is worth a few hundred million. This is about the ultimate heist.
Why did they take a Malaysian airliner I have no idea?

No, chancy, I'm afraid you don't. A few hundred million is not "the ultimate heist", it is peanuts.

To put it in some perspective: on 9/10/01 Donald Rumsfeld reported on the disappearance of 2.3 trillion dollars. You see, you are out by at least four orders of magnitude compared with 13 years ago.

Hello araucaria:
OK, I agree with your trillion dollar scam is the biggest dollar figure that we know of. However no one appears to be upset or worried about the 2.3 trillion so it's not very important from a perspective of discussion. ( government losing peoples cash. what's new about that?)
The Malaysian jetliner has been in our face for over a week. Everyone including myself has a theory. A commercial jet heist is something that we can follow and read about first hand.

chancy

[araucaria]

this plane is worth a few hundred million. This is about the ultimate heist.
Why did they take a Malaysian airliner I have no idea?

No, chancy, I'm afraid you don't. A few hundred million is not "the ultimate heist", it is peanuts.

To put it in some perspective: on 9/10/01 Donald Rumsfeld reported on the disappearance of 2.3 trillion dollars. You see, you are out by at least four orders of magnitude compared with 13 years ago.

Hello araucaria:
OK, I agree with your trillion dollar scam is the biggest dollar figure that we know of. However no one appears to be upset or worried about the 2.3 trillion so it's not very important from a perspective of discussion. ( government losing peoples cash. what's new about that?)
The Malaysian jetliner has been in our face for over a week. Everyone including myself has a theory. A commercial jet heist is something that we can follow and read about first hand.

chancy
Wow, you are pretty laid back about 'government losing peoples cash' :) You're welcome to your theory, but the general picture that is emerging (or not) is that it's much bigger than that. Listen to Joseph Farrell (interview posted above by cardillac).

[Andre]

Well, I've listened to a lot of reports, perspectives, speculations and spin on this issue and I am rapidly forming the opinion that exotic technology was used to disappear the plane and that all the fanciful stories that now follow its instantaneous disappearance are total spin. This spin will be designed solely for popular consumption in order to move us as far away from the truth as possible. In all likelihood, this action was perpetrated by a faction of the global elite who convinced their hired guns in the deepest and darkest halls of the military industrial complex to "test" this new weaponry in order to save the world from impending chaos (which ironically, they create).

This weapon probably exceeds anything any opposing faction has in its arsenal by an order of magnitude. By comparison, it probably makes weather warfare look antiquated. No doubt about it. This is a game changer.

A key question at this point is why now?

If we look at the geopolitical situation, it would seem reasonable to assume that the timing is related to events in the Ukraine which really means Russia, USA and China. Each one of these nations knows from their own satellite imagery and intel that this plane was intentionally vanished. So, whoever has released this weapon on the unsuspecting Malaysian passenger plane (collateral damage) is sending a powerful message to the political and military leaders of Russia, China and the USA that they must play ball and ensure that this Ukrainian conflict goes the way the Controllers want it to. It's simply a case of "tow the line or there will be consequences".

It would be foolish to think in terms of this new weapon belonging to any one of these nations. These are forces that operate beyond sovereign interest. They are renowned at playing nations off against each other. Their goal is global power and nations are pawns in their hands. (If you doubt this, study history and how World Wars are financed).

Related to the question of why now is the undeniable conclusion that the stakes must be very high at the moment to justify using this weapon.

I will leave it to others to ponder what game is really afoot here.

[birddog]

I too, am an American, and proud of the USA. I am not proud of all the tyranny goings on connected to particular agencies, though, such as CIA and NSA. I don't know how many people are involved, but realize these guys have been implanted with torturous devices on their nerve endings and possibly even a location becon in the top center of their heads. I would bet their families have been threatened. Don't blame the USA....this is happening all over the world. I don't think the plane is shot down..I do believe everyone is alive for now. Any dowsers out there? Use this over a map to find plane. We need to stop fighting with ourselves, and work together as a planetary, one world family.