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16th March 2014, 01:57
Below is an interesting interview by Robert Stanley and a psychiatrist, Dr. J, who contacted him regarding his decades long investigation into gaining an understanding of schizophrenia. He contacted Robert Stanley after he heard about his discussions regarding archons. He has worked in state mental hospitals, state prisons, mental health centers and in emergency room crisis centers.
The Dr. said early in his career he became intrigued by "the voices" heard by schizophrenic patients and after having personal interactions with them for many years he has concluded that they are not hallucinations, as traditional psychiatry says they are. He said that these "hallucinations" were always negative experiences. They were not random hallucinations, some good, some neutral and some bad, as you would expect true hallucinations to be. They were consistently negative and always drove the patient toward self-destruction.
He said no one ever had conducted a study into what the voices were, no one was interested in them, everyone just accepted they were hallucinations. He was discouraged from asking questions about them. Regardless, he pursued his interest and talked with patients directly about their situations. He found that many of them faked taking their meds. He could not understand why as they would descend into a hellish psychosis where the patients would become paranoid, have nightmares, see demons, become violent to others and also harm themselves sometimes to the point of suicide, when they went off their medication.
The meds. were tranquilizers that would quiet the voices and subdue them, so he could not understand why they would they would stop taking them as they would help relieve their symptoms. So, he asked them why they would choose a hellish situation over one of relief and they said that the voices would tell them not to take the meds. The voices told them that the doctors were trying to poison and kill them.
The voices also did not like the fact that he was asking the patient about them. They would call him names and tell the patient not to talk to him, however the patients would continue to talk to him regardless of their protestations, as he appeared to genuinely want to understand what they were experiencing.
One patient, who was a cocaine addict, told him that the voices instructed him on tasks to do. For instance, he was instructed to travel from CA to OR to find a pot field that was unknown to the patient. He followed their specific instructions and sure enough there was a pot field where they told him to go. They told him to harvest some of it and go to a park that they knew of to sell it and make money. He followed their directions and indeed there was a park there. He made lots of money and the voices then told him where he could go to by more cocaine.
Other patients told him that their voices would tell them which houses to break into, what times to do it and they knew the general area where the loot was located in the house.
These voices were not only intelligent but had intelligence unknown to the patient.
He began working closely with one patient who was willing to try things. Dr. J suggested that he do the opposite of what the voices instructed him to do and to try to think positively. The patient followed his advice and reported that the voices did not approve of him doing so, but he did it anyway. The voices told him to tell the Dr that what he was doing was dangerous. The patient reported that the voices had diminished in strength by following his recommendations. After a while of progress the patient came to him and said the voices wanted to speak directly to him. This had never happened before, in all of his cases and he was surprised to hear their request. He agreed to speak to the voices and he said the patient looked at him, his demeanor changed and he said, "You have no right to interfere with our way of life." The patient then left.
The Dr. said he was shocked to hear such a thing and he sat there thinking about what had happened. That was the moment that he knew that these voices were something else, something separate from the patient, some other entity. He had done some research and came across the Carlos Castaneda material and decided to meet again with the patient and get his input about it. He quoted from the book and talked about parasitic entities that live off of negative emotional energy, that exists on the earth plane, just like we do but they have been here longer and they treat humans like cattle.
He said he then looked at the patient to see his reaction and he was intently staring at him not saying a word. The Dr. then said he heard a loud crackling electrical sound off to the right, near the wall. The sound proceeded to move up the wall, on the ceiling over the patient, down the left wall, onto the floor and it then jumped into the trash can near the Doctors foot. It rattled the can for a while before stopping. He asked the patient if he heard that and the patient was still intently staring at him and said he needed to leave. The doctor thought the patient was going to attack him but thankfully he left the room.
He was shocked that these voices/beings could affect our physical world and wondered what else they were capable of. He avoided the patient for three months and finally got the nerve to talk to him again. He asked him if he heard the sound during their last meeting and he said he did and was surprised that the doctor could hear it too. The Dr. asked the patient what the sound was and he said it was the voices. The Dr. asked if they were saying anything to him while the sound was crackling and he said yes, they told him to go find a shank and to stab him in the stomach. The Dr. asked him why he didn't do what they instructed and he said he couldn't find a shank to stab him with.
Here is the full interview for those interested.
http://unicusmagazine.com/MP3/01-robert%20%20stanley_URH%203_28_2013.mp3
Here is the webpage it can be found on if the link does not work correctly.
http://unicusmagazine.com/skyfish.htm
Go down to where it talks about Dr. J affirming archons are real, in red bold text.
The Dr. said early in his career he became intrigued by "the voices" heard by schizophrenic patients and after having personal interactions with them for many years he has concluded that they are not hallucinations, as traditional psychiatry says they are. He said that these "hallucinations" were always negative experiences. They were not random hallucinations, some good, some neutral and some bad, as you would expect true hallucinations to be. They were consistently negative and always drove the patient toward self-destruction.
He said no one ever had conducted a study into what the voices were, no one was interested in them, everyone just accepted they were hallucinations. He was discouraged from asking questions about them. Regardless, he pursued his interest and talked with patients directly about their situations. He found that many of them faked taking their meds. He could not understand why as they would descend into a hellish psychosis where the patients would become paranoid, have nightmares, see demons, become violent to others and also harm themselves sometimes to the point of suicide, when they went off their medication.
The meds. were tranquilizers that would quiet the voices and subdue them, so he could not understand why they would they would stop taking them as they would help relieve their symptoms. So, he asked them why they would choose a hellish situation over one of relief and they said that the voices would tell them not to take the meds. The voices told them that the doctors were trying to poison and kill them.
The voices also did not like the fact that he was asking the patient about them. They would call him names and tell the patient not to talk to him, however the patients would continue to talk to him regardless of their protestations, as he appeared to genuinely want to understand what they were experiencing.
One patient, who was a cocaine addict, told him that the voices instructed him on tasks to do. For instance, he was instructed to travel from CA to OR to find a pot field that was unknown to the patient. He followed their specific instructions and sure enough there was a pot field where they told him to go. They told him to harvest some of it and go to a park that they knew of to sell it and make money. He followed their directions and indeed there was a park there. He made lots of money and the voices then told him where he could go to by more cocaine.
Other patients told him that their voices would tell them which houses to break into, what times to do it and they knew the general area where the loot was located in the house.
These voices were not only intelligent but had intelligence unknown to the patient.
He began working closely with one patient who was willing to try things. Dr. J suggested that he do the opposite of what the voices instructed him to do and to try to think positively. The patient followed his advice and reported that the voices did not approve of him doing so, but he did it anyway. The voices told him to tell the Dr that what he was doing was dangerous. The patient reported that the voices had diminished in strength by following his recommendations. After a while of progress the patient came to him and said the voices wanted to speak directly to him. This had never happened before, in all of his cases and he was surprised to hear their request. He agreed to speak to the voices and he said the patient looked at him, his demeanor changed and he said, "You have no right to interfere with our way of life." The patient then left.
The Dr. said he was shocked to hear such a thing and he sat there thinking about what had happened. That was the moment that he knew that these voices were something else, something separate from the patient, some other entity. He had done some research and came across the Carlos Castaneda material and decided to meet again with the patient and get his input about it. He quoted from the book and talked about parasitic entities that live off of negative emotional energy, that exists on the earth plane, just like we do but they have been here longer and they treat humans like cattle.
He said he then looked at the patient to see his reaction and he was intently staring at him not saying a word. The Dr. then said he heard a loud crackling electrical sound off to the right, near the wall. The sound proceeded to move up the wall, on the ceiling over the patient, down the left wall, onto the floor and it then jumped into the trash can near the Doctors foot. It rattled the can for a while before stopping. He asked the patient if he heard that and the patient was still intently staring at him and said he needed to leave. The doctor thought the patient was going to attack him but thankfully he left the room.
He was shocked that these voices/beings could affect our physical world and wondered what else they were capable of. He avoided the patient for three months and finally got the nerve to talk to him again. He asked him if he heard the sound during their last meeting and he said he did and was surprised that the doctor could hear it too. The Dr. asked the patient what the sound was and he said it was the voices. The Dr. asked if they were saying anything to him while the sound was crackling and he said yes, they told him to go find a shank and to stab him in the stomach. The Dr. asked him why he didn't do what they instructed and he said he couldn't find a shank to stab him with.
Here is the full interview for those interested.
http://unicusmagazine.com/MP3/01-robert%20%20stanley_URH%203_28_2013.mp3
Here is the webpage it can be found on if the link does not work correctly.
http://unicusmagazine.com/skyfish.htm
Go down to where it talks about Dr. J affirming archons are real, in red bold text.