Electric Vehicles which Generate Electricity As they Drive

[amor]

Current electric vehicles operate by motors powered by some sort of battery. If you have a car like this, simply place a magneto or dynamo in the boot. On the extended shaft of the generator, place a pulley wheel to accommodate a belt going to the pulley wheel of the extended shaft of a fifth wheel touching the road under the boot of the venicle. As the car moves, the fifth wheel will rotate the belt to the generator (dynamo/magneto) sending alternating current to the electric motor powering the vehicle. If that electric motor is direct current, then an inverter turns the current to direct current before going on to the motor controller. The Fifth Wheel should be mounted in such a way to the underside of the boot that it has a limited swivel motion when required by the steering wheel. The best kind of battery system for any alternative electrical device is a bank of capacitor batteries wired in such a way that if one set of capacitors becomes discharged, other banks of capacitors automatically substitute a charge to start the vehicle running.

Elsewhere on this site I have shown how the magneto-motor combination can produce great over-unity electricity, enough to keep the motor turning over and extra electricity to run external circuits. I also pointed out that if you are going to machine this device that it is best to have the magnets on the rotor drums of the generator, passing the coils to generate electricity arranged in pancake fashion. In this arrangement, the magnets and coils are paralell to the rotating shaft but the drums holding the magnetic poles are stacked in pancake fashion at right angle to the rotating shaft. Banks of generators sit on each other, all turned by a vertical shaft of the motor. This eliminates losses through motion from gravity. Having the heavy coils stationary to the rotating drums saves the energy of the motor also. This saved energy is converted to over-unity electricity. It would seem best to have the motor in the middle of the banks of generators above and below it.

I hope that Toyota will use this and tell the NWO where to go; when they do, please donate a car to me! Amor

[TargeT]

I have an electric motorcycle, it regenerates power when off the throttle in a certain setting.

there is a LOT of drag produced when making this electricity, it takes a lot of work.

thus your idea doesn't really work.

[13th Warrior]

I have this crazy idea that you could power vehicles through high voltage plasma drives created from static electricity from auto wheels made of, say wool and the road surface made of glass...

[Brakeman]

I had once a vehicle that required no gasoline or fuel.

It costed all of one hundred dollars.

Two fully interchangeable wheels were set to a rust resistant frame.

Repairs could be made simply in my tool shed with parts I could purchase most anywhere.

I could travel about 30 MPH on a good day.

http://bicycletutor.com/images/bike-map-large.jpg

[DeDukshyn]

I have this crazy idea that you could power vehicles through high voltage plasma drives created from static electricity from auto wheels made of, say wool and the road surface made of glass...

Hmm ... interesting. Or perhaps how about that electricity can be made from pressure? I even heard of viruses that can make electricity under pressure (http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/house-music-energy-crisis1.htm), but I couldn't find any links strangely. If you could put all these technologies into capturing a car's inertia - something happening almost constantly in city driving, where capturing it won't cost anything (tech still needs some development); as well as say solar panels, regenerative braking, and also having the technology in the roads themselves -- to be transmitted to the cars as they drive --- perfect for highways. ;)

[Tesseract]

Current electric vehicles operate by motors powered by some sort of battery. If you have a car like this, simply place a magneto or dynamo in the boot. On the extended shaft of the generator, place a pulley wheel to accommodate a belt going to the pulley wheel of the extended shaft of a fifth wheel touching the road under the boot of the venicle. As the car moves, the fifth wheel will rotate the belt to the generator (dynamo/magneto) sending alternating current to the electric motor powering the vehicle. If that electric motor is direct current, then an inverter turns the current to direct current before going on to the motor controller. The Fifth Wheel should be mounted in such a way to the underside of the boot that it has a limited swivel motion when required by the steering wheel. The best kind of battery system for any alternative electrical device is a bank of capacitor batteries wired in such a way that if one set of capacitors becomes discharged, other banks of capacitors automatically substitute a charge to start the vehicle running.

Elsewhere on this site I have shown how the magneto-motor combination can produce great over-unity electricity, enough to keep the motor turning over and extra electricity to run external circuits. I also pointed out that if you are going to machine this device that it is best to have the magnets on the rotor drums of the generator, passing the coils to generate electricity arranged in pancake fashion. In this arrangement, the magnets and coils are paralell to the rotating shaft but the drums holding the magnetic poles are stacked in pancake fashion at right angle to the rotating shaft. Banks of generators sit on each other, all turned by a vertical shaft of the motor. This eliminates losses through motion from gravity. Having the heavy coils stationary to the rotating drums saves the energy of the motor also. This saved energy is converted to over-unity electricity. It would seem best to have the motor in the middle of the banks of generators above and below it.

I hope that Toyota will use this and tell the NWO where to go; when they do, please donate a car to me! Amor

This may work as an energy recovery system, but it would never be over unity. If you really believe that it's over unity, then you need to explain how you are capturing more kinetic energy than you are creating.

[Lifebringer]

Free rolling encased washers on the regenerating wheel below the car as it rolls with a belt turning the turbine. Once the car is fueled it has the power to push it through the friction barriers as it travels, with lithium rechargeables as it's used when the car runs low on gas the batteries are activated by switching over to electric, and have a back up set for when those go and as it runs it charges those to keep continuous movement provided the other parts in the car don't get too hot from over use. A lot of times the product isn't installed with good other parts and then you have problems. The parts that would get hot that turn wheels and such, have to be cooled as they work with air. Such as a car running for over 24hours, the wheel casings may get too hot and melt without knowledge. Sounds like the "Switch 2000" car I gave to a production manager at GM in 99, he's left the company since then and gone to Japan, because they wouldn't let him patent it here. I talked to the partners as a low wage no start up money inventor, and decided it was for the world's air safety and our children's future financial oil burden if something isn't started. I gave it to them after 3 years. Every New Year the called like clockwork to get my thoughts on how the design was to be made, and the function of the parts I put down on the design. After finally telling them I couldn't even get 500.00 to put in and to take it and run with it with my permission, I just wanted to see it on the road in the world.


The extra batteries were in the undercarrieage of the trunk where a spare tire would go and the spare tire on the back of the auto. Batteries in the front, small gas back up tank for starting and uninterrupted travel until the body is tired to rest at a hotel, solar panel roof to charge while parked and converter shut/off switch, like a cooking timer to shut it off when charged.

[13th Warrior]

I have this crazy idea that you could power vehicles through high voltage plasma drives created from static electricity from auto wheels made of, say wool and the road surface made of glass...

Hmm ... interesting. Or perhaps how about that electricity can be made from pressure? I even heard of viruses that can make electricity under pressure (http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/house-music-energy-crisis1.htm), but I couldn't find any links strangely. If you could put all these technologies into capturing a car's inertia - something happening almost constantly in city driving, where capturing it won't cost anything (tech still needs some development); as well as say solar panels, regenerative braking, and also having the technology in the roads themselves -- to be transmitted to the cars as they drive --- perfect for highways. ;)

Roadways would be dual purpose as travel corridors and electric grids. You'd be utilizing the friction that is currently not being used (tires in contact with road surface). Just think of the potential power a couple million cars moving upon the road way could produce...

[amor]

To Targue T: I do not understand what you did with your bike. My idea works. Amor

[amor]

Read carefully, draw what I have written. You will see there are multiple generators pancaked, turned by the verticle sharft of the direct current motor. By designing the power and placement of the permanent magnets on each generating pancake (you need only return to direct current motor that which is needed to run it and carry the weight of the drums and magnets), the excess wires bearing alternating current from the great number of stacked north/south generators will produce over-unity electricity. Further gains may be obtained from magnetic (unipolar) non-friction points (instead of bearings) on which axle turns. Amor

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You idea still employs fossil fuels. My idea employs electricity solely and emits no fumes. Amor

[amor]

13th Warrior: You should put your idea under your own heading and not seek to divert attention from a fine idea that works, which could save the world from its current gang of parasites. Amor

[Nick Matkin]

I think all electric vehicles use magnetic braking and use the drag thus generated to charge the battery. All it does is recapture a very small amount of energy that friction braking alone would waste.

Putting a fifth wheel to generate power to drive the motor is like using a motor to drive a generator which then drives the motor - unfortunately it won't work, not even if you choose a generator that will generate more volts than the motor needs to overcome the losses. Sorry...

Anyway, maybe I have misunderstood your concept. Nevertheless, if you thinks it's a new idea, I suggest you post it on one of the electric vehicle forums to get some discussions going.

Nick

[TargeT]

I think all electric vehicles use magnetic braking and use the drag thus generated to charge the battery. All it does is recapture a very small amount of energy that friction braking alone would waste.

Putting a fifth wheel to generate power to drive the motor is like using a motor to drive a generator which then drives the motor - unfortunately it won't work, not even if you choose a generator that will generate more volts than the motor needs to overcome the losses. Sorry...

Anyway, maybe I have misunderstood your concept. Nevertheless, if you thinks it's a new idea, I suggest you post it on one of the electric vehicle forums to get some discussions going.

Nick

I can use regenerative braking to almost bring my motorcycle (electrocycle? http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-fx/features.php) to a stop, I have a gauge that shows me how much electricity is being generated by the regenerative process and it's pretty equivalent to the amount of power it takes to moderately accelerate.

you can "get power back" but it's not very much and it's not creating more than was used.

Now, I am using a motor designed to produce Torque (and thus acceleration) to regain power, so perhaps the efficiency is not as good as it could be; but I don't think it's far off.

[amor]

It is truly amazing how many disinformation cockroaches come out of the oil cartel woodwork to make a simple idea sound totally confusing. That is, of course, a backhanded compliment to genius. Simplicity is genius.

[Nick Matkin]

Once you have successfully built your device into a vehicle, (or have you achieved this already?) perhaps you could post a video on Youtube - it does not need to expose any technical details, but we'd like to see it working, as surely it does since in post 9 you state: "My idea works".

Do you have any supporting calculations we could see? I appreciate that you may not be willing to give too much away into the public domain, but we may then have a better understanding of what you have done.

Alternatively you could build a smaller prototype to prove your theories before making the full design.

I expect you have been watching the QEG developments on PA and elsewhere. They too claim to have an over-unity machine...

Thanks.

Nick

[Oouthere]

Amor, unless you have a generator with a special coil set-up it cannot run at over unity, it's not oil cartel cockroaches it's people telling you their experiences and knowledge. The power companies can claim efficiency as high as 60%, but when you talk with someone that actually works in the industry it can be as low as 30%.

I replicated one experiment with about 1,100 to 1,200 watts (can't remember the exact numbers) with about 3,600 watts out but the power was unusable. People accused me of covering up free energy, but the fact was it was unusable. Free energy is a difficult processes...