View Full Version : Fred Phelps Meets His Maker
Brakeman
20th March 2014, 21:31
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/20/us/westboro-church-founder-dead/
It seems the old man who founded the absurd and illogically crude Westboro Baptist Church is enroute to meet his Maker.
A peculiar conversation, that will be.
PurpleLama
20th March 2014, 21:34
He will reincarnate as a homosexual, and will be much abused for it.
Brakeman
20th March 2014, 22:54
Some interesting Karma he'll have, I bet.
Gerald Paris
20th March 2014, 23:18
He is on the same path as we and was just as ignorant as the rest of us. We all need to grow.
778 neighbour of some guy
21st March 2014, 00:01
God loves gags. His funeral will be picketed :rolleyes:
Divine sintervention, shoot your shot.
Dance Freddy dance!!!
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Synchronicity
21st March 2014, 00:36
I have a strong feeling that his experience was not what he expected, but hopefully he can find some peace and healing.
Craig
21st March 2014, 02:33
He will reincarnate as a homosexual, and will be much abused for it.
That is a possibility, but could he come back during this time now, ie one of the people he has attacked is himself in another life? Is that possible? I am starting to think that it is as time is only relevant on 3D?
Leaves many a thought to be had if true, not just for him but for all of us and those who harm us or we who harm them?
Carmody
21st March 2014, 02:40
I nearly choked on my food, when I read some of the linked article.
Then I could not help laughing for a bit. But I should not laugh, it's going to be a really difficult moment.
I've been in that moment more than once, and oh, it's gonna be a big letdown for that laddie.
In reality, we each have our good lives and our bad lives. he'll probably be carrying this one for a bit. He'll probably have to tackle it over more than a few lives.
Lifebringer
21st March 2014, 10:11
We were discussing his hospital stay the other day and a lot of Gay people stated, that tho his heart was not intended to help them, his bigotry did more than a million parades with balloons. I had to chuckle at that one, because the little mean spirit, did help them obtain their civilian rights as human voters, and the job discrimination just as w/AAmericans is now on the docket. I also see that all the stuff that happened from 1947, since the "secrets began in US" that unresolved karma issues such as JFK, Bush/Cheney, war mislead ups, weapons industry sales to our enemies and far right wing sects overseas, and the unresolved bigotry when Kennedy, Martin, Malcolm, Bobby died
that decade. Those secrets have festered and popped, and the mess has lead all the way to the first announcement by Kennedy to go to the Moon. Now I don't know what Prez Lincoln knew or if he had contact, but I do know Washington did, as they communicate with the highest in command, that speak for the people at the time. Seems they will speak to the average Joe, Jane, LaKeisha and Yoko, before they attempt to speak to those with the nukes. They must be saying: "If they were insane enough to create and set off nukes, who wants to know them?"
I do believe the big showing is best, so NONE of the stations can keep it secret for the elites, and they know they have force fields, so they need to just stop the lying and get it done, before something even more catastrophic comes from the celestial alignments that all civilizations will bare witness to.
It's just time for humanity to grow up and learn to be tolerant of God's other creative life everywhere. Love doesn't hurt, if it's from the heart, but hate does, as it lashes out uncontrollably, and unpredictably. That's not the mature way to do "anything in any circumstance." Hate makes the mind deteriorate, and not grow up, because EGO gets it's way when it acts like a spoiled and uncontrollable child with no guidance or discipline to know it's coming back at'cha.
Buckle up peeps, we have the gossamer, and time to shine some more light until every crack and crevice of deception is outted.
Lifebringer
21st March 2014, 11:02
Gotta watch out for those sites with thousands of ads attached. All you have to do is accidently go over one and they jump on you like fleas.
korgh
21st March 2014, 11:22
In my opinion, he should not have any attention on his death. Its policy viral hatred unfortunately already made victims who will never forget him.
blufire
21st March 2014, 12:53
I wonder if he went into the 'white light ' :p
panopticon
21st March 2014, 13:49
I feel sorry for the man.
He ended up getting excommunicated by the church he built. His life work taken from him. Then he died. That was probably the biggest shock for him...
Nate Phelps, his son who left (escaped from) the Westboro Church, participated in a revealing interview with The Telegraph about a year ago that can be read here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9913463/My-father-the-hate-preacher-Nate-Phelps-on-escaping-Westboro-Baptist-Church.html). In it Nate Phelps relates the following about his father:
Twelve years later he graduated with a law degree from a university in Kansas and fought various civil rights suits in the Sixties. According to local reports, he gained a reputation as a sharp, competent attorney “whose eloquent and fiery orations mesmerised juries”. Two decades later, he received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and a local branch of the human rights group the NAACP.
But Nate Phelps says the perception in some circles that his father was once this champion of civil rights, railing against discrimination, is laughable. “We would all call black people ‘DNs’ at home. It stood for Dumb N------ and was our private language,” he says. “We thought it was clever to call them that in front of them. He was deeply prejudiced, and he believed the Bible said they were cursed.”
Nate says Fred Phelps saw an opportunity with the passing of the Civil Rights Act to cash in. “There was a lot of money, and a lot of opportunity,” he says. “And suddenly my father was the man to go to.” At the same time, Nate says, he and his siblings were being fed a distorted version of the Bible. “We were told we were the only people left on Earth; the only ones who were going to be saved.” Nate says his father became an itinerant preacher, attempting to save Mormons in Utah and Native Americans in the south west, and believing that he was never going to die.
Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9913463/My-father-the-hate-preacher-Nate-Phelps-on-escaping-Westboro-Baptist-Church.html)
Yep, he believed he was never going to die.
So sad that a man who was obviously very clever and could have done so much good decided not to.
-- Pan
Craig
23rd March 2014, 21:21
He has passed, I feel no different neither better or worse on his passing, but how many people pass from this earth in a day? the ones who go without being noticed by anyone worries me more.
pyrangello
23rd March 2014, 22:25
I and a group of bikers attended a soldiers funeral with a group of the church standing 500 feet away chanting words one can only imagine and signs not intended for any grieving family to see. For the 100 vets there on bikes to not confront these individuals was a bit tough so we did the next best thing since the group could not get closer than 500 feet of the church . We backed up a dozen bikes with our exhausts pointed directly at them and let them idle and fumigated them out, so they left. :)
rgray222
23rd March 2014, 22:52
I feel sorry for the man.
He ended up getting excommunicated by the church he built. His life work taken from him. Then he died. That was probably the biggest shock for him...
Nate Phelps, his son who left (escaped from) the Westboro Church, participated in a revealing interview with The Telegraph about a year ago that can be read here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9913463/My-father-the-hate-preacher-Nate-Phelps-on-escaping-Westboro-Baptist-Church.html). In it Nate Phelps relates the following about his father:
Twelve years later he graduated with a law degree from a university in Kansas and fought various civil rights suits in the Sixties. According to local reports, he gained a reputation as a sharp, competent attorney “whose eloquent and fiery orations mesmerised juries”. Two decades later, he received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and a local branch of the human rights group the NAACP.
But Nate Phelps says the perception in some circles that his father was once this champion of civil rights, railing against discrimination, is laughable. “We would all call black people ‘DNs’ at home. It stood for Dumb N------ and was our private language,” he says. “We thought it was clever to call them that in front of them. He was deeply prejudiced, and he believed the Bible said they were cursed.”
Nate says Fred Phelps saw an opportunity with the passing of the Civil Rights Act to cash in. “There was a lot of money, and a lot of opportunity,” he says. “And suddenly my father was the man to go to.” At the same time, Nate says, he and his siblings were being fed a distorted version of the Bible. “We were told we were the only people left on Earth; the only ones who were going to be saved.” Nate says his father became an itinerant preacher, attempting to save Mormons in Utah and Native Americans in the south west, and believing that he was never going to die.
Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9913463/My-father-the-hate-preacher-Nate-Phelps-on-escaping-Westboro-Baptist-Church.html)
Yep, he believed he was never going to die.
So sad that a man who was obviously very clever and could have done so much good decided not to.
-- Pan
I believe your post was right on the money. Don't denegrate the man or continue to wish him pain and ill feelings. Feel sorry for him because at the end of the day it is all about the choices you make in this life.The sad thing is, too many people only figure this out on their deathbed. The lucky ones do a bit of introspection along the way and change course before it is too late.
Dennis Leahy
24th March 2014, 00:11
I thought this was a thoughtful response from George Takei:
http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1157682_784285004915813_943486064_n.jpg
Dennis
conk
24th March 2014, 15:39
Simply ignorance expressing itself. THE cause of most all problems in our world. Seek awareness and offer forgiveness.
Nick Matkin
1st April 2014, 09:07
I can't help thinking his family should get a heavy dose of what they were happy do dish out to others. A lot of gay men and women shouting at his funeral with placards and see how they made many other families feel.
On the other hand, perhaps we should just stay away, and prove to them we are much better than they are. Unfortunately if that's what we do then I suspect that message will be lost.
Although I dare say there will be some quite innovative expressions at the funeral to get the message across, without the hate and negativity the Phelps used against his targets.
Nick
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