Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

[Bob]

QUEBEC, Canada - Gatineau town - young girl ill after coming back from Sierra Leone

(More information here (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ebola-test-underway-for-gatineau-que-child-in-isolation-1.2750825))

Dr. Jean-Pierre Courteau, medical officer of health for the Outaouais region, said in an interview with Radio-Canada they’re being cautious because of her symptoms but couldn’t go into detail.

The girl is in isolation at an undisclosed hospital after coming with her family to a Gatineau emergency room earlier in the day Friday with flu-like symptoms.

There is no risk of contamination for medical staff and other people there, Dr. Courteau said.

He said testing is being done in Winnipeg and results should be known by Saturday afternoon.


and over in Liberia, the district quarantine in WestPoint has now been lifted.

The 50-60,000 people are now able to get supplies. The government had caught 4 of the perpetrators who broke into the Ebola Clinic, proclaiming there is no ebola here, and infected themselves. The patients that they chased out were returned.. So apparently the government has decided it is safe, (unless an outbreak appears at which point they will re-enact the quarantine).

(Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/world/africa/quarantine-for-ebola-lifted-in-liberia-slum.html))

"Residents of the neighborhood, West Point, will be free to move in and out starting Saturday at 6 a.m., said Lewis Brown, the minister of information. The army, which had pressed for the quarantine and took the lead in enforcing it in the first two days, will be removed from West Point, leaving only the police, Mr. Brown said.

A nationwide curfew, from 9 p.m. to 6 a.m., will remain in place, he said.

“This was a tool intended to help the community to help themselves and get the help they desperately need,” Mr. Brown said in a telephone interview. “We’re pleased with the way that the community has owned up to this.”

[Flash]

Gatineau is next door to Montréal. I hope they are careful. Here in Montréal, we do have hospitals with the ultimate reverse air rooms for these kind of cases, and all the Equipment. But i do not think they have this in Gatineau.

And my question is: what did they do with the family members, on which plane were they flying, where are all the other passengers, etc etc.

[Bob]

It really is important to look at the family and who the little girl has been in contact with, on the plane and elsewhere - tracking.. Possibly, you could check with LOCAL news and post here what is found on this.

Universities in the US, probably Canada are starting to say, ANYONE coming from Africa, in from any of the affected countries will have to show they are not infected with Ebola (possibly other diseases as well)..



Gatineau is next door to Montréal. I hope they are careful. Here in Montréal, we do have hospitals with the ultimate reverse air rooms for these kind of cases, and all the Equipment. But i do not think they have this in Gatineau.

And my question is: what did they do with the family members, on which plane were they flying, where are all the other passengers, etc etc.

[Bob]

Young girl tests negative in Canada for Ebola

She is still in isolation as of Saturday - (Source (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ebola-tests-negative-for-gatineau-girl-who-remains-in-isolation-1.2751571)

Those tests, done in Winnipeg, came back negative on Saturday afternoon. The town is Gatineau, Quebec where she is in the hospital.

The girl remains in isolation and she is in stable condition, according to health officials in western Quebec.

[Bob]

Another DEMONSTRATED EFFECTIVE preventative for Ebola

(not a vaccine, not a treatment) - THIS is AMAZING.

(Source (http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/190/190ra79.full.pdf))


http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/190/190ra79.full.pdf

Sci Transl Med 5, 190ra79 (2013); This method was developed FOR the FDA in 2013.

So were ultra-fast analysis methods to determine if cells being analysed contained Ebola.

The scientists doing the testing found that SERMs (Selective estrogen receptor modulators), that have many uses ranging from fertility treatments to breast cancer treatment, have effective antiviral activity against Zaire strain of Ebola.

SERMs ARE already registered with the FDA (able to be used NOW) and would require a repurposing to be prescribed for preventative and treatment for Ebola (off labeling uses).

The compounds likely act late in viral entry, preventing viral fusion. They act on many cells, not just cells which would be responsive to estrogen.

The scientists found that the two brand named products:

CLOMIPHENE - Clomid and Serophene trade name product
TOREMIFENE


Clomiphene treats female infertility due to anovulation.

The substances toremifene, tamoxifen also used to treat cancers provided some of the strongest antiviral activity.

ALL STRAINS of EBOLA were tested and found to be inhibited by the compounds.

Both clomiphene and toremifene also were effective against inhibiting Marburg virus from entering the cells.

Treatment - 10 days regimine - "clomiphene citrate" and "toremifene citrate", 60 mg/kg intra-peritoneal injection.

This worked in both male and female mice.

Experiments using live filoviruses were performed in biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) facilities at USAMRIID.

Clomiphene citrate (CAS #50-41-9)
Tamoxifen citrate (CAS #54965-29-1)
Quinestrol (CAS #152-43-2)

Sales of above laboratory grade products (NOT FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT USE) - Sigma-Aldrich

Toremifene citrate (CAS #89778-27-8)
Sales of above laboratory grade product (NOT FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT USE) - Sequoia Research Chemicals

[Bob]

Sweden reporting possible Ebola Case

(Source (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/08/sweden-investigates-possible-ebola-case-2014831213615391659.html))

A hospital in the Swedish capital is investigating a possible case of Ebola, Swedish media has reported.

A man who recently travelled to a "risk area" for the virus was taken to Karolinska University Hospital in Stockholm suffering from a fever and is being treated in an isolation unit, the reports said on Sunday.


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UPDATE - FAST TRACK test on the man shows NO ebola present.

"Tests results have shown that a man who was hospitalized in Sweden on Sunday as a suspected Ebola case isn't carrying the potentially deadly virus, Stockholm County Council health officials said in a news release on Monday.

"An unidentified young man sought treatment for high fever and stomach pains at a local health clinic in Stockholm on Sunday evening.

"After medical staff learned that he had recently visited a West African country affected by the Ebola virus, he was transferred to medical isolation at Stockholm's Karolinska University Hospital.

"The man has been tested for Ebola and the results show he doesn't have the virus, said Ake Ortqvist, a communicable disease specialist, in a news release issued by Stockholm County Council health services.

"We can conclude that there are no signs whatsoever that patient has contracted Ebola," Dr. Ortqvist said."


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OF the numerous people coming back from West Africa, just what ARE they coming back with that the hospitals ARE NOT saying?

This thread discusses numerous types of Haemorrhagic Fevers which can be caught in Africa, the Philippines, South America, Central America, the Caribbean, Asia... and are a public health concern.

[Bob]

China since 2009 working on Ebola treatment

Today they say they have a treatment for the People's Army in China. Obviously they have known it was important for MILITARY use. Bioweapons use that is.

"China's first drug against Ebola has recently obtained manufacturing approval as a special medication for the People’s Liberation Army. The drug named "JK-05" has been developed by the Institute of Microbiology Epidemiology under Academy of Military Medical Sciences.

"For the last five years, Professor Wang Hongquan, led a research team, studying the prevention and treatment of the Ebola virus—one of the most virulent viral diseases known to humankind.

"JK-05 is a micro-molecular chemical, and its pharmacological mechanism is to selectively contain the RNA polymerase of the Ebola virus so as to inhibit virus replication," Academy of Military Medical Sciences Prof. Wang Hongquan said."

(Source (http://english.cntv.cn/2014/08/31/VIDE1409430958420142.shtml))


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[Bob]

2 more medical workers have survived Ebola treated with zMapp monoclonal antibody.

Voinjama, Liberia -- Dr. Senga Omeonga and physician assistant Kynda Kobbah were discharged from a Liberian treatment center on Saturday, 30 August 2014 after recovering from the virus, according to the World Health Organization.

They were given ZMapp -- the experimental drug that's credited with saving the lives of two Americans infected with Ebola.

Of the published human treatment with zMapp, two have died 4 have survived and have been released with no trace of the active virus. A doctor in Liberia had died, a priest in Span had died.

(Source (http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/30/world/africa/ebola-west-africa/))

Media are calling it a 100% success for zMapp but the statistics say otherwise. Earlier in this thread we asked the questions, is it a function of TIMING (when the drug is given), AGE of the person, ability of the body to handle multiple organ damage, ability of the Hospital to provide proper support of various organ failure scenarios.. How much of the survival comes from the drug?

[Bob]

Rivers State Commissioner for Health, Sampson Parker says the contact tracing team has identified 178 persons that had contact with the late Dr. Iyke Enemoah (the doctor who died).

Three more people have now been quarantined in Port Harcourt, Nigeria.

The commissioner stated this during his daily media briefing to keep the public abreast with efforts of stakeholders to tackle the Ebola scourge in Port Harcourt, Nigeria.

According to him, 50 out of this number have high risk exposure, stating that three persons have been moved to the Isolation centre in Eduoha, while late Dr. Enemoah’s wife, who was earlier moved to Lagos is stable and responding to treatment.

(Source (http://dailypost.ng/2014/08/31/ebola-three-people-quarantined-port-harcourt/))

UPDATE

A female doctor in Port Harcourt has tested positive to the dreaded Ebola Virus Disease. It is reported that she was on admission at the Green Hart hospital where the late Port Harcourt doctor, Iyke Enemoah, was treated after he got infected with the deadly virus in the course of treating an ECOWAS official.

During a meeting of the National Emergency Council on Ebola outbreak in Nigeria held today, September 1st, the Minister of Health, Prof. Onyebuchi Chukwu had revealed this.

Speaking with all Commissioners for Health in Nigeria, Prof. Chukwu said the doctor who tested positive to the disease is now being treated at the Ebola isolation ward in Rivers state.

The number of confirmed Ebola cases in Rivers state (Port Harcourt area) has now climbed to three with this recent development; they include the index case- ECOWAS official, Oluibukun Koye; the late Dr, Iyke Enemoah who died on Friday August 22nd and the recently diagnosed female doctor.

(Source (http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/01/ebola-female-doctor-port-harcourt-tests-positive/))

[Bob]

SIMS USA has reported that another American Doctor has been infected with EBOLA

(ABC NEWS reports)

What they said is that he was NOT working on any patients, had not been obviously exposed from a Patient (with Ebola).. Liberia (had been treating women in the obstetrics ward ..)

This suggests an AIRBORNE (or other) form of transmission.

(Source (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/warns-food-prices-rising-ebola-hit-countries-25210485))

[Bob]

DR CONGO outbreak deaths climb to 31

(Source (http://www.skynews.com.au/news/world/africa/2014/09/02/ebola-kills-31-people-in-dr-congo.html))

There are now 31 deaths,' Eugene Kambambi, the World Health Organisation (WHO)'s head of communication in DR Congo, said on Tuesday, citing Congolese authorities and stressing that the epidemic 'remains contained' in an area around 800 kilometres north of the capital Kinshasa.

Health officials had previously given a death toll of 13 people from the lethal haemorrhagic fever since August 11 around the isolated town of Boende, surrounded by dense tropical forest in Equateur province.

Kabamba added that there were '53 confirmed, suspected or likely cases' of Ebola, while 185 people were under medical watch because they had admitted to contact with patients or were believed to have had dealings with people stricken by the highly contagious disease.

The government announced on August 25 that the DRC was facing its seventh Ebola outbreak since the disease was first identified in the former Zaire in 1976.

Health authorities state that the outbreak is confined to four medical zones around Boende, where some personnel from the WHO and the charity Doctors Without Borders (MSF) have been working with specialised epidemiologists since mid-August.

MSF on Monday told AFP that reinforcements had reached the affected area and were setting up an Ebola clinic. The deep forest location makes it hard for health teams to get to Boende, along with medical supplies to treat symptoms of the disease.

This strain of Ebola is not the strain affecting the people in West Africa. It is believed to be a hybrid.

[Bob]

Alert for West Bengal INDIA - needs more testing.. - (Source (http://www.thehealthsite.com/news/ebola-in-india-first-suspected-ebola-case-in-west-bengal/))

"Alip Das, a 26-year-old man who returned from Liberia, is suspected to have contracted the deadly disease. He has been admitted to the Raiganj District Hospital in West Bengal for testing.

"The suspect is a resident of a resident of Sikarpur village of the North Dinajpur district.

"He was among the six people in the state who recently returned from Liberia, one of the worst Ebola-hit countries in West Africa. He was admitted to the hospital for high fever, one the classical symptoms of Ebola virus disease.

*** North Dinanjpur Chief Medical Officer Health (CMOH) D Mondal said has confirmed that Mr Das has been tested positive for malaria and is currently receiving treatment for the same.

"However, to rule out slightest possibility his blood samples have been sent for Ebola testing in Pune laboratory.

"Meanwhile, Delhi airport quarantined six people at high-risk suspected with Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) on Monday admitted to their facility. Health officials at airport are monitoring the situation very closely. During the last 24 hours, about 181 passengers from the affected West African countries have landed at the airports of Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai, Bangalore, Kochi, Trivandrum, Hyderabad and Kolkata.

[sheme]

Not totally relevant but perhaps this kind of selfless behaviour will thwart "their plague" real human beings can do this again. Thanks for you work Bob. .http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/england/derby/

[Bob]

NIGERIA - ABUJA (Capital) - First case appears

A suspected case of the Ebola Virus Disease, EVD, has been confirmed by the Federal Capital Territory Administration (FCTA) in Asokoro General Hospital, Abuja.

A sample of the test conducted on the patient has been sent to Lagos with the result expected to be ready later today. Should the result turn positive, it will be the first case of Ebola in the nation’s federal capital.

A statement issued on Monday by the Head, Public Relations Unit of the Health and Human Services Secretariat(HHSS) of the FCTA, Badaru Salisu Yakasai reveals that the suspected Ebola patient died during the weekend right before the result of the test could be released.

According to the statement, “the Family Medicine unit of Asokoro District hospital suspected Ebola disease in a patient on admission at the Accident and Emergency unit on the 28th of August 2014 and immediately isolated the patient.

Strict infection control measures were immediately instituted. Blood sample was then taken to the designated FCT Ebola testing laboratory which happens to be within the Hospital premises.

“The epidemiology unit of Public Health Department of the Health and Human Services Secretariat was notified and their response was immediate. The result of the Ebola testing was being expected from the Laboratory four days later, on Monday the 1st of September 2014.

Now the search for whom that person had been in contact with has to happen.

[Bob]

Not totally relevant but perhaps this kind of selfless behaviour will thwart "their plague" real human beings can do this again. Thanks for you work Bob. .http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/england/derby/


"In 1665, the Great Plague that was ripping through London at an uncontrollable and devastating pace, travelled to the Derbyshire village of Eyam. In a brave attempt to prevent the spread of this deadly disease, the small community imposed voluntary isolation. At the heart of this historic story of self-sacrifice lies the village clergyman, William Mompesson, who is believed to have been the driving force behind Eyam’s extraordinary, self-imposed quarantine."

I've been in contact with one of the Nigerian King's sons discussing solutions. One of the issues in Nigeria is assorted ambivalence in the health community at the outset, and now different modalities of thought as to "what to do". Nigeria has volunteered to try out all sorts of vaccine and treatment programs from the big biopharma groups..

These micro-wild-fire outbreaks they are hoping to quash FAST. It is unknown if the 'solution' is monitoring (exactly what and how is that done), or quarantine, or something else.. The issue is and continues to be, during this time of infection when it is highly spreadable, and when the person seeks medical care (if they get that far), just WHO have they come in close contact with, and who have those people come in contact with.. -- that UNKNOWN period of a few days of highly infective is the major concern..

[sheme]

Then the world must assume it is infected and live in isolation for three weeks -this may do it? Emergency powers. those that can must do this. until all reported fever stops. Then "they" will infect us all over again. Then we will save some spores/microbes/tissue- for Denver and their underground bases and pour it into their ventilation shafts. Not to be vengeful you understand but just to share the gift of empathy, I know eventually they will be grateful for this ticket out of hell.

[Cidersomerset]

A couple of articles you may have already referred to there content on other articles...



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Major quarantine and experimental vaccines to curb Ebola
19:15 01 September 2014 by Debora MacKenzie
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The Ebola epidemic in West Africa is raging out of control. Known cases have topped
3000 – with the true number thought to be two to four times that – and they are
climbing exponentially, doubling every 35 days (see diagram). The World Health
Organization warns of a possible 20,000 known cases in the coming months if
efforts to control the outbreak do not bear fruit.

The virus has now invaded Senegal, a fifth country, in what the WHO are calling
a top-priority emergency.

The only effective controls are tracking and quarantining people exposed to the virus,
and perhaps a vaccine. Last week, the WHO outlined an aggressive road map to stop
the spread of the virus. It implied that this could involve quarantining entire communities
in badly affected areas. An effort to do this without warning the community ended in riots
in a slum in Monrovia, Liberia, last month, but the WHO hopes more community
involvement will help in future.

An unprecedented effort has also been launched to make a currently experimental
vaccine available on a large scale as early as January.

So far, quarantine has proved difficult. In July an infected man flew from Liberia to
Lagos, Nigeria, and was hospitalised, infecting health staff. All people who had come
into contact with him were thought to be isolated, but last week it emerged that one
person flew to Port Harcourt, further along the coast, to be treated secretly. His doctor
died and 160 people who were in contact with them are now in quarantine.



Under the radar

Meanwhile a man under surveillance in Guinea after exposure to Ebola travelled to
Senegal and developed the disease. He initially went to hospital without warning
medical staff of his exposure to the virus. The people he had contact with are now
being traced.

Quarantine has worked on Ebola in the past, but those outbreaks had at most a few
hundred cases. It is proving difficult to scale up such labour-intensive methods to the
West African epidemic, says Bruce Aylward, head of emergency operations at the WHO.

"We can't contact-trace every individual," Aylward said in a WHO press conference to
launch the new road map in Geneva, on 29 August. "So in this case you may have to
trace an infected village or community for the time being." This implies that more
communities could be held under quarantine.

The WHO's plan aims to stop viral transmission in the most affected countries by June
2015, and stop it invading new ones, for a projected cost of $490 million over the next
six months. It calls for more Ebola treatment centres, healthcare facilities to find cases,
contact-tracing and mobilisation of communities to safely bury people killed by Ebola,
as well as the recruitment of 760 international health staff and 12,000 within the
most-affected countries.


It also calls for "short-term extraordinary measures to limit national spread". While the
road map doesn't spell out what the extraordinary measures are, it does call for healthcare,
food and social support in containment areas. Aylward told the press conference the such
measures should slow transmission in the worst hotspots enough by December to allow the
standard method of tracking individual contacts of patients to become effective again.

Vaccine hope

The WHO plan emphasises cooperation with affected communities, for instance giving
people more protective equipment so that they can care for their sick. But Aylward said
unaffected countries are reacting to Ebola by buying up global supplies of masks, gowns
and gloves, hindering the effort.

Even if they can be obtained, getting supplies and health workers into affected countries
is getting harder. Airlines are cancelling flights partly because there are no certified safe
hotels or medical care for air crews on overnight refuelling stops. The UN World Food
Programme is supplying emergency aircraft to get people and supplies, and the WHO is
in talks with airlines in a bid to fix these problems within a few weeks.

The other angle of attack is a vaccine. Last week UK-based pharmaceutical company
GlaxoSmithKline said it would start making 10,000 doses of an experimental vaccine
composed of a harmless adenovirus that expresses an Ebola protein. The vaccine was
safe and provoked immune reactions to Ebola in tests in non-human primates, but had
not been tested in humans.

Those tests will start this week with volunteers in the US, followed by people in the UK,
Gambia and Mali. In an unprecedented move, GSK will make the vaccine in bulk while
those tests are under way. If it passes, it could be used in Africa early next year.

Encouraging results have also been reported in primates with an experimental drug
called ZMapp. But that drug is aimed at curing infected people and would have little impact on transmission of the virus.


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Ebola virus is mutating rapidly — say scientists

Bhavyajyoti Chilukoti August 31, 2014 at 5:48 pm

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A recent research related to the Ebola virus disease (EVD) states that the Ebola virus
is rapidly mutating, making it difficult to diagnose and treat. A study conducted on the
initial patients being infected with the virus in Sierra Leone revealed more than 400
genetic modifications of the Ebola virus, which might prove detrimental for the ongoing
treatment measures but also to the vaccines that are under clinical trials for future
treatment of the Ebola virus. (Read: Traditional healer responsible for bringing Ebola
to Sierra Leone — scientists)

The Researchers at the Broad Institute in Massachusetts and Harvard University warn
that the Ebola virus is constantly undergoing mutation. The findings show that the
future treatment options including vaccines as well as diagnosing of the disease will
be very difficult and less effective as mutations will continue. As of now, the researchers
have analysed around 99 Ebola viral genomes. Since the Ebola outbreak in West Africa in
March, more than 1550 people have died of the Ebola virus disease. Earlier in August
(24th), a new viral strain of the Ebola virus different from the one being observed in
West Africa was detected in those from Democratic Republic of Congo, posing threat
to million of lives all over the world. (Read: Latest Ebola News: Liberian Government
lifts Ebola quarantine, people celebrate)

The World Health Organization has supported the use of experimental drugs (drugs
which are not approved by FDA due to lack of data on human clinical trials) like ZMapp
and other vaccines for treatment of Ebola infected patients. The U.N. health agency on
Thursday said, ‘The Ebola outbreak will affect more than 20,000 people in West Africa
and might spread to more countries, indicating a clinical emergency all over the world.
It requires worldwide effort costing more than half a billion dollars to overcome the
deadly Ebola outbreak.’ The WHO has announced a $490 million plan to contain the
rapid spread of the Ebola virus over the next nine months due to the possibility of
Ebola endemic to spread to 10 more countries, other than the four major Ebola-hit
countries of West Africa namely Sierra Leone, Liberia,Guinea and Nigeria. (Read:
Ebola infected monkeys said to be recovering with ZMapp)


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[Bob]

Worries now in Toronto - a patient isolated at St. Catharines hospital as Ebola precaution
The patient arrived in hospital with “flu-like symptoms” after travelling in West Africa

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/09/02/patient_isolated_at_st_catharines_hospital_as_ebola_precaution.html

As usual, the statement is:
"A patient is in isolation at a St. Catharines hospital after arriving from the Ebola hot zone of West Africa with “flu-like symptoms.”

The patient is in stable condition and is considered “low risk,” said Niagara Health System (NHS) spokesperson Brady Wood, adding that test results confirming whether the patient has Ebola, a deadly virus, are expected by Thursday.

“Our analysis indicates this situation is very low-risk,” said Dr. Tom Stewart, chief of staff and executive vice-president medical at the NHS.

“We are taking every precaution and isolating the patient per the best practice protocols, with advice from infectious disease experts and public health.”

The NHS won’t confirm where the patient is from or disclose the West African country where the person was travelling."

No worries, nothing to see here - move along..

[Bob]

WHO has agreed to Mapp BioPharma's RANSOM request for 25M$

Ransom or License?

(Source (http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-awards-contract-to-develop-more-experimental-ebola-treatment-1409695957))

It was only a matter of time before the price was to be set how MUCH to produce a "solution".. %$#@$#@

"The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said Tuesday it awarded a $25 million contract to Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc. to fund the manufacture of a small amount of experimental Ebola treatment ZMapp and to speed the drug's development.

The new supply to be funded with the 18-month contract would be used in early-stage clinical studies to test the drug's safety and efficacy, HHS said.

The contract can be expanded with more $$$$ sent to MAPP..


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Here it is pointed out that the RANSOM demand was actually higher..

(Source (http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/sep/02/san-diego-biotech-42-million-ebola-zmapp-drug/))

Tuesday, September 2, 2014
By David Wagner

A U.S. health agency has awarded San Diego-based Mapp Biopharmaceutical new funding to speed up work on an experimental Ebola drug.

The Department of Health and Human Services announced on Tuesday a $24.9 million contract aiming to help Mapp accelerate development and testing of ZMapp over the next 18 months.

The contract could be extended to a total of $42.3 million.

(Note - MAPP had said early on to the USAMRIID when it had first developed the drug treatment that ALL IT WOULD TAKE would be two weeks, and they would use tobacco plants to produce massive clones of the drug.. Specifically this ability was emphasized by the company to show to the government that it could answer ANY EMERGENCY situation.. That was quite some time ago... AFTER EBOLA broke out they could have ramped up basically immediately, but instead it appears we see the scenario above is what transpired.. Is this odd?)

[Bob]

Will Pooley is out of the Hospital - free from Ebola - Wednesday 3 Sept 2014

"This is not an African disease. This is a virus that is a threat to all humanity," Gayle Smith, special assistant to President Barack Obama and senior director at the National Security Council, told reporters during a telephone briefing.

Many on the ground have said there aren't enough protective suits for health workers, who have become infected in large numbers in this outbreak. The U.S. government is "ramping up significantly" donations of protective gear, said Smith.

The key to solving the outbreak will be implementing measures used in all previous outbreaks: isolating and treating the sick, monitoring their contacts for signs of disease and safely burying the dead, said Tom Kenyon, of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"There is a window of opportunity but it's closing with each and every day that we delay in getting measures in place," he said.

Kenyon said experimental vaccines and treatments would not be available in time to make a difference.

One such experimental drug is ZMapp, which has been given to seven people so far in this outbreak. The company has said that all of its doses are now exhausted, and it will be months before more can be made.

It is also still not clear if the drug is effective, since human trials have not yet been carried out. Two of the people who received ZMapp died, while five others survived including William Pooley, a British nurse who was discharged Wednesday from a London hospital.

Pooley, 29, contracted Ebola while working in Sierra Leone and was flown back to Britain on Aug. 24 where he was cared for in a special isolation unit at the Royal Free Hospital.

"I was very lucky in several ways: Firstly in the standard of care that I received, which is a world apart from what people are receiving in West Africa, despite various organizations' best efforts," Pooley told reporters. "The other difference is that my symptoms never progressed to the worst stage of the disease."

(Source) (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/group-world-losing-battle-ebola-25220329)

[Bob]

Scientific American - Threat to Security now probable

(Source (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ebola-now-poses-a-threat-to-national-security-in-west-africa/))

Fear of Ebola spreading is also hindering care for other maladies and may increasingly put the stability of neighboring nations at risk.

“The virus is moving faster than anyone anticipated,” Frieden said. Bodies are not getting buried fast enough to meet demand and quickly scaling up the needed response to keep individual cases from becoming large outbreaks continues to be a struggle. Ongoing exposures to the bodily fluids of the dead and those caring for Ebola patients are feeding the epidemic. Also hindering the response to the disease: symptoms of other endemic diseases in the region like malaria and typhoid may initially appear similar to Ebola", said CDC director Tom Frieden.

CDC is calling for a scale-up of needed medical supplies, technical experts in health care management and a coordinated, global approach to the outbreak.

Right now, there are not even enough beds for sick patients nor enough data coming in to help track cases.

The epicenter of the outbreak, the densely forested region at the intersection of these countries’ porous borders, is home to about one million people, Frieden said.

Scaling up existing health care programs there like malaria control could help reduce disease burden and increase the population’s trust level, but that will be a slow process. Right now, he said, “we need a no regrets policy,” where we will not look back and say we should have done more.

[Bob]

OXFORD university will start parallel testing for vaccines for Ebola

(Source (http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/08/ebola-scan-aug-28-2014))

National Institutes of Health (NIH) has partnered with an international-based consortium based in Britain to fast-forward work on an Ebola virus vaccine developed by GSK that has shown promise in nonhuman primate studies. The first phase 1 human trial is slated to start next week by scientists from the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), with similar trials starting next month in the United Kingdom, Gambia, and Mali.

The international consortium includes the Wellcome Trust and Britain's Medical Research Council and Department for International Development. A $4.6 million grant from the groups will allow researchers at the University of Oxford to start parallel safety tests of the vaccine, which are slated to begin in the middle of September as soon as the groups receive expedited ethical and regulatory approvals.

Wellcome Trust press release: http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/News/Media-office/Press-releases/2014/WTP057225.htm
"Human trials of this candidate vaccine, being co-developed by the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) and GlaxoSmithKline, are to be accelerated with funding from an international consortium in response to the Ebola epidemic, which the World Health Organization recently declared a public health emergency of international concern.

"A £2.8 million grant from the Wellcome Trust, the Medical Research Council (MRC) and the UK Department for International Development (DFID) will allow a team led by Professor Adrian Hill, of the Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford, to start safety tests of the vaccine alongside similar trials in the US run by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID, a part of the NIH)."

[Bob]

The latest doctor skipped wearing protective gear because at 100 degree temps, it was "too hot"

"HOT ZONE gets the Doc.." thing is the doctor was working in the obstetrics unit, working on outpatients. Ebola doesn't care, don't take the precautions if it is present, it will infect if it is contacted.

Skipping the protective gear is not smart obviously, no matter what..

The latest U.S. doctor to contract Ebola in Africa was working with outpatients in 100-degree temperatures that made it difficult to wear protective gear when he was exposed to an obstetrics patient stricken with the deadly disease, said another American physician who worked in the same hospital.

Dr. Rick Sacra, a 51-year-old physician from Massachusetts, was working in the obstetrics unit of the massive Elwa Hospital in the Liberian capital of Monrovia, far from the Ebola unit, said Dr. Jeff Deal, a South Carolina doctor who traveled to Liberia to help battle the crisis engulfing much of Africa.

Doctors and other health care workers often do not wear protective gear in the general part of the hospital, most of which has no air conditioning.

With high temperatures compounded by equatorial humidity, many doctors and healthcare workers outside of the Ebola unit skip protective gear.

(Source) (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/09/03/latest-us-doc-get-ebola-skipped-protective-gear-100-degree-heat-says-colleague/)

[Bob]

Liberia Patient infected breaks out of Hospital heads to the market to get some FOOD he says that's all..


http://rt.com/files/news/2d/15/40/00/eboebo-1.jpg

A local resident told the media that it is the fifth case in which a patient has escaped the quarantine zone.

"We told the Liberian government from the beginning that we do not want an Ebola camp here. Today makes it the fifth Ebola patient coming outside vomiting," a man who watched the scene, told Reuters.

On August 18, at least 17 suspected Ebola carriers fled the same hospital in Monrovia after a quarantine center was attacked by a rock-throwing crowd. They were then successfully returned to the facility.

The video below has emerged that an Ebola-infected patient has escaped a quarantine zone in Liberian hospital and went to a local crowded market in search of food. He was then pursued by medical staff and returned to hospital.

The man left Elwa hospital facility in Liberia’s capital, Monrovia, which is full of Ebola patients. Wearing a tag which indicated that he had tested positive with Ebola, he arrived at a local crowded market in the Paynesville neighborhood, the busiest part of the city.

The crowd is fleeing in fear and shouting angrily at a man wearing red clothes, as shown in the video released on YouTube. When medical staff arrived, the patient began to run and then took a stick and tried to keep them at bay. However, the doctors managed to take him to the ambulance.

tfCyWSgMdRU

[Becky]

My daughter on her first day at school in year 8 (age 12) has been given, for her science homework, to find out all about Ebola. I can't decide if this is a good thing or a form of spreading scaremongering in children.

[Bob]

My daughter on her first day at school in year 8 (age 12) has been given, for her science homework, to find out all about Ebola. I can't decide if this is a good thing or a form of spreading scaremongering in children.

Understanding never is scaremongering..

disinformation, mis-information, rumor would be.. those are what is helping to destroy the families in West Africa who are uninformed, feel evil spirits are taking them over, that cleanliness and sanitation are from the Devil.. education would have stopped the spread of superstition.

[Becky]

My daughter on her first day at school in year 8 (age 12) has been given, for her science homework, to find out all about Ebola. I can't decide if this is a good thing or a form of spreading scaremongering in children.

Understanding never is scaremongering..

disinformation, mis-information, rumor would be.. those are what is helping to destroy the families in West Africa who are uninformed, feel evil spirits are taking them over, that cleanliness and sanitation are from the Devil.. education would have stopped the spread of superstition.

Thanks Bob,
I'll direct her to read the posts you have put up. I think my concern is that I cant be sure what is the truth and what isn't, when it comes to looking up info online. Especially when looking p main stream media information / news.
How do you feel that MSM have portrayed the Ebola situation? Too much scare mongering? not enough information? Or pretty well balanced, considering? I'd appreciate your thoughts please.
Thanks,
Becky

[Bob]

My daughter on her first day at school in year 8 (age 12) has been given, for her science homework, to find out all about Ebola. I can't decide if this is a good thing or a form of spreading scaremongering in children.

Understanding never is scaremongering..

disinformation, mis-information, rumor would be.. those are what is helping to destroy the families in West Africa who are uninformed, feel evil spirits are taking them over, that cleanliness and sanitation are from the Devil.. education would have stopped the spread of superstition.

Thanks Bob,
I'll direct her to read the posts you have put up. I think my concern is that I cant be sure what is the truth and what isn't, when it comes to looking up info online. Especially when looking p main stream media information / news.
How do you feel that MSM have portrayed the Ebola situation? Too much scare mongering? not enough information? Or pretty well balanced, considering? I'd appreciate your thoughts please.
Thanks,
Becky

Hi Becky, I've tried to find the highest quality data with good references. First hand interviews with people on the "front lines" so to speak I tend to feel is more accurate than hearsay. There is a lot of scientific data, historical data, as up to date data as possible in this thread. I think MSM can get data messed up at times, as any one can, if the numerous sources are simply overwhelmed.. This situation is overwhelming, to many doing research, the doctors and aid workers on the front-lines.

I have some feelings about the biopharmaceutical companies not being as up-to-date on treatments historically developed, prior to them developing their own "patentable" (and highly profitable) solutions as they could be..

If patient zero was a child bitten by a BAT with this particular Ebola-Zaire strain (the one which was shown as an effective bioweapon, as developed IN ex-Soviet bioweapons facilities) where did that bat get infected? Accidental or deliberately released into the wild.. ? Unknown unless one can find a whistleblower who knows exactly how that group of bats got infected.. if that is the case.. so what is being posted what it looks like in MSM is generally "no fear no worries, not airborne, not spreadable except by direct contact, pretty much parroting the press releases they have been officially handed..

Doctors though are getting infected taking the officially recommended safety procedures.. that is worrisome.. I think this thread connects a lot of dots, and asks a lot of questions. This incident/event is far from over..

Military action is being discussed by the UN and Doctors without Borders.. another thread has been started in the NEWS and UPDATES section of the forum specifically to discuss that option..

[Bob]

TWO human volunteers get the first human clinical test vaccines
(Source (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/women-receive-experimental-ebola-vaccine-fast-tracked-trial/story?id=25236608))

The first Ebola vaccine study participant, a 39-year-old woman, receives a dose of the investigational vaccine being studied at the NIH Clinical Center in Bethesda, Maryland.

A 39-year-old woman was the first person to receive the vaccine, which had previously only been tested in monkeys. She received the injection Tuesday at the NIH Clinical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. A 27-year-old woman was given the shot today, the agency said.

The trial will test the safety of the vaccine, which was developed by GlaxoSmithKline and the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

As mentioned above in an earlier post OXFORD scientists in UK will be doing parallel studies of the GSK vaccine.

Although Fauci said the vaccine has “performed extremely well” in primate studies, this is the first time it has been tested in humans.

The phase 1 clinical trial will involve 20 men and women between the ages of 18 and 50, according to the NIH. Researchers will use the study to determine whether the vaccine is safe and see whether it prompts an immune response necessary to protect against Ebola.

GlaxoSmithKline became involved in the Ebola vaccine because it bought Swiss vaccine company Okairos AG in 2013. Okairos, originally a Merck spinoff, had been working on the vaccine with the NIH since 2011.

PRODUCTION SCHEDULE

Although Fauci said in July that it would take until late 2015 for a vaccine -- if successful -- to be administered to a limited number of health workers, GlaxoSmithKline said in a statement that the grant will also enable it to manufacture 10,000 doses of the vaccine while the trials are ongoing. If the vaccine trials are successful, it will be able to make stocks available immediately to the World Health Organization.

The NIH said it should have initial data from the trial in late 2014.

AND

The trial for a different vaccine is set to begin at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in Silver Spring, Maryland.

This vaccine was a collaboration between the federal Department of Defense and Iowa pharmaceutical company NewLink Genetics Corp.

[Bob]

Nigeria - while they were saying 'see we contained it',
and a doctor in Port Harcourt, Nigeria was continuing to treat patients (doctor is dead) while he was showing symptoms..

(Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/04/world/europe/british-ebola-patient-discharged-from-hospital.html?_r=0)) - CDC source for the data, NY Times reporting

This is sad and tragic..

"The World Health Organization expressed worry on Wednesday about a second cluster of Ebola virus patients in Nigeria — in the center of its oil industry — because one of the three confirmed victims was a doctor who had treated patients and socialized after he became contagious."

"The other two confirmed cases in Port Harcourt are the dead doctor’s wife, who is also a doctor, and another patient at the same hospital. The W.H.O. statement said that epidemiologists were monitoring “more than 200 contacts” and that 60 were considered especially vulnerable."

"The doctor, in the southern city of Port Harcourt, died on Aug. 22, and his infection was confirmed five days later. On its website, the W.H.O. said that more than 200 people might be at risk.

"The W.H.O. said this second cluster had indirectly resulted from a quarantine lapse in the first cluster of Ebola cases that hit Lagos, the capital of Lagos State, in July, and was potentially far more serious.

"Tracing the spread of the disease in Port Harcourt, the statement said, revealed “multiple high-risk opportunities for transmission of the virus to others.”

How it Happened

The health organization’s statement said one person in Lagos escaped a quarantine in early August and sought treatment from a doctor in Port Harcourt, nearly 400 miles away. That doctor became infected and developed symptoms after a few days, was hospitalized on Aug. 16 and died of Ebola less than a week later.

"Even as he developed symptoms, the statement said, the doctor “continued to treat patients at his private clinic, and operated on at least two.” Moreover, the statement said, before he was hospitalized the doctor “had numerous contacts with the community, as relatives and friends visited his home to celebrate the birth of a baby.”

"It said visitors to his hospital room had included members of his church who performed a healing ritual that could have exposed them as well."

[Becky]

My daughter on her first day at school in year 8 (age 12) has been given, for her science homework, to find out all about Ebola. I can't decide if this is a good thing or a form of spreading scaremongering in children.

Understanding never is scaremongering..

disinformation, mis-information, rumor would be.. those are what is helping to destroy the families in West Africa who are uninformed, feel evil spirits are taking them over, that cleanliness and sanitation are from the Devil.. education would have stopped the spread of superstition.

Thanks Bob,
I'll direct her to read the posts you have put up. I think my concern is that I cant be sure what is the truth and what isn't, when it comes to looking up info online. Especially when looking p main stream media information / news.
How do you feel that MSM have portrayed the Ebola situation? Too much scare mongering? not enough information? Or pretty well balanced, considering? I'd appreciate your thoughts please.
Thanks,
Becky

Hi Becky, I've tried to find the highest quality data with good references. First hand interviews with people on the "front lines" so to speak I tend to feel is more accurate than hearsay. There is a lot of scientific data, historical data, as up to date data as possible in this thread. I think MSM can get data messed up at times, as any one can, if the numerous sources are simply overwhelmed.. This situation is overwhelming, to many doing research, the doctors and aid workers on the front-lines.

I have some feelings about the biopharmaceutical companies not being as up-to-date on treatments historically developed, prior to them developing their own "patentable" (and highly profitable) solutions as they could be..

If patient zero was a child bitten by a BAT with this particular Ebola-Zaire strain (the one which was shown as an effective bioweapon, as developed IN ex-Soviet bioweapons facilities) where did that bat get infected? Accidental or deliberately released into the wild.. ? Unknown unless one can find a whistleblower who knows exactly how that group of bats got infected.. if that is the case.. so what is being posted what it looks like in MSM is generally "no fear no worries, not airborne, not spreadable except by direct contact, pretty much parroting the press releases they have been officially handed..

Doctors though are getting infected taking the officially recommended safety procedures.. that is worrisome.. I think this thread connects a lot of dots, and asks a lot of questions. This incident/event is far from over..

Military action is being discussed by the UN and Doctors without Borders.. another thread has been started in the NEWS and UPDATES section of the forum specifically to discuss that option..

Thank you Bob for the research you have done for Avalon on this topic, and for your help :-)
Becky x

[Bob]

Dr. Rick Sacra was stationed in Liberia to be coming home to the US.

He will be flown to Nebraska, according to the international Christian mission organization Serving In Mission (SIM).

Sacra, who is from Holden, Massachusetts, was not treating Ebola patients directly. Instead he was delivering babies at a general hospital in Monrovia, Johnson said.

(Earlier it was said, He had taken off his protection equipment in the (non-ebola) ward due to the intense heat and humidity, that the ward is not air conditioned, and managed never-the-less to get infected. (What about the other people in that ward?)

Conflicting data here: "Sacra was following all protocols and taking all necessary precautions against Ebola, Johnson said (SIM President Bruce Johnson). It is unclear how he became infected, but SIM is working with the CDC to determine the point of contact."

Sacra had been to Liberia with SIM before, and volunteered to go again after he heard fellow missionaries Nancy Writebol and Dr. Kent Brantly had contracted the Ebola infection.

He's expected to arrive at Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha on Friday, in isolation for treatment. He walked onto the plane in Liberia reports said.


http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140904123354-nd-gupta-sacra-ebola-diagnosis-00001122-story-top.jpg

(Source (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/04/health/ebola-american-patient/))

[avid]

Another interesting essay from Yoichi Shimatsu... (http://www.rense.com/general96/eboutofgabo.html)

Ebola Out Of Gabon-Congo Was Smuggled Into West Africa

By Yoichi Shimatsu
Exclusive To Rense.com
9-4-14

This essay, the sixth in a series on ebola and biowarfare, looks at the findings from a just-completed gene analysis of the ebola virus strain by an international team of microbiologists and medical doctors. Their conclusion is that the RNA structure of the ebola virus raging through West Africa is a direct derivative from the Gabon-Congo outbreaks in 2002 and 2003.

The lineage provides important clues as to how Zaire ebola (ZEBOV-Gabon/Congo) was transferred to West Africa over a distance of 4,000 kilometers and a lapse of 10 years without being detected along the way. Zaire ebola is neither native to West Africa nor could it have arrived via any natural or accidental means without triggering intermediate outbreaks.

Nobody has stepped forward to claim responsibility for an inadvertent release of Zaire ebola in shipment, through a drug trial or a lab accident. The question therefore arises: Why would anyone take the risks and take on the expenses of inserting the virus into a remote district of Gabon a decade after obtaining the sample from Gabon? At this point in the contagion, one of those risks is to be apprehended for manslaughter at minimum or premeditated mass murder. So, if the contagion is a criminal act, the suspect must be as highly educated, trained in science, brilliant and devious as the fictional Dr. Moriarty. What could be his game? Or was the plot hatched by an institute or corporation?

Tracking the Killer
The research team did not interpret their findings any further because so many variables and uncertainties are involved in this outbreak. Whatever the uncertainties, data from Harvard and Broad Institute tend to affirm the possibility of ZEBOV-Gabon/Congo coming from a microbiology lab that was involved in the Central African pandemic a decade ago. Further strengthening the case for an escape from bio-secure confinement, the White House has just ordered an inspection and inventory of all federal laboratories involved in virology in the search for missing or contaminated samples of pathogens.

Much more forensic evidence is needed to determine whether the virus was released in a deliberate act of biowarfare to destabilize resource-rich West Africa or for an illegal “live trial” in humans using an active infectious virus. At this point, the only way to gather more clues is to match the microbiological findings with the natural ecosystem and human social-political environment in Gabon and the Republic of Congo (Brazzaville). The investigative process promises neither a quick solution nor ready conclusions.

This series of forensic articles marshals the scientific facts and background into plausible scenarios for how and why Zaire ebola was inserted into Guinea, epicenter of the first outbreak in late December. In each of these essays, a country involved in biowarfare research is spotlighted to weigh evidence for and against its culpability in triggering the current outbreak. It is now the turn of Canada, especially its hidden research ties with Nazi scientists under postwar Operation Matchbox and more recent cooperation with the military microbiology lab of the Bundeswehr, the army of the German Federal Republic.

While the Canadian equivalent of the notorious MK-ULTRA mind-control program has been partially exposed by its victims and critics, next to nothing has been disclosed about Ottawa’s secret connections with Nazi microbiology. The only foreign medical teams present in the late phase of the Gabon-Congo outbreak were from a German military lab based in Munich and a Canadian microbiology team. The Canadian virologists were from the Manitoba lab that has since animal-tested the ZMapp antibodies for the British Defence Ministry and the Pentagon. Canada’s past record of live trials of German toxic agents on its own citizens is reason enough to list that government among the top suspects behind the present ebola contagion.

Dying for Truth
Before cross-referencing the forensic evidence with political background, highest praise should be accorded to the five African doctors who died of ebola in Sierra Leone while treating patients and gathering samples for the recent genome survey. Scientific truth sometimes demands the ultimate sacrifice for the public welfare. The loss of those brave professionals should compel the world medical community to repudiate the profiteering and instead devote every ounce of effort toward breaking the replication cycle of the ebola virus to save humans and wildlife on the last untamed frontier of this planet.

Kenema Government Hospital in Sierra Leone was the sole collection point for the 99 ebola genomes from 78 patients. Working round the clock for a month, the team analyzed gene sequences that reveal the virus is descended from an ebola strain from the 2002-2003 outbreak in Gabon and the Republic of Congo (Brazzaville). The Middle African variant that erupted in the West Cuvette region of Congo (Brazzaville) emerged in low-land gorillas in 2002, killing an estimated 5,000 apes, before moving into the human population. In the second wave of 2003 at the same location, it recurred, crossing into humans, reportedly through a dead chimpanzee eaten by elephant poachers.
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A Therapeutic Global Order
Though we are closer to the truth through this series, the question “Who specifically released ebola in West Africa?” continues to elude us. At this point, we can only ask “Why?”

That answer is: To bring social-economic order to less-developed and poorly managed continents through a modern medical-procedural system. If political reforms persistently fail, then a life-threatening crisis is the most convincing means to effect regime change and reinforce obedient discipline among the local elite and its bureaucracy. Great epidemics motivate nation-states and municipalities to radically improve hospital systems, invest in public hygiene and impose vaccination. Bad habits must be destroyed. Biological warfare can be an agent of creative destruction.

That is the outlook from the therapeutic state with its pharmaceutical arsenal and advanced electromagnetic diagnostic systems. The globalized medical system, enshrined in the WHO with its many institutional allies and corporate partners, has the power of life or death over billions of humans and animals. Africa, like China before it, is the “sick man” of the world, where radical social surgery is required so that orderly financial administration and corporate management can take root. Ebola is the deadly boogeyman that will bring a lost continent back into the fold.

This unspoken program, which nonetheless functions as the operating system for global management, should explain why so much investment goes to the global medical authority from misanthropic sources like the Gates Foundation and the Wellcome Trust. The motivation does not arise from charity or compassion. It is power.

Much more on link - fascinating.

[Bob]

UN will be setting up a command and control center in Africa to help coordinate and deal with this outbreak

"U.N. to set up Ebola crisis center, aims to stop spread in six to nine months"

"The number of cases is rising exponentially. The disease is spreading far faster than the response. People are increasingly frustrated that it is not being controlled," U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told reporters.

"The goal is to stop Ebola transmission in affected countries within six to nine months, and to prevent the international spread of the virus," U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said. "This can be done only if the urgent and necessary mobilization is done both in the affected countries and by the international community."

Countries affected by the epidemic include Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal and Sierra Leone. An outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo is unrelated to and independent of the West African epidemic, the World Health Organization has said.

"We agreed to establish an Ebola crisis center to bring synergy and efficiency to the efforts of these many partners within and beyond the United Nations," Mr U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said.



(Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/05/us-health-ebola-un-idUSKBN0H01PA20140905))

[Bob]

Israel performing testing on a Nigerian Visitor

An Israeli hospital said it was testing a Nigerian visitor for possible Ebola on Friday after admitting her for a fever.

A spokeswoman for Shaarei Zedek Medical Centre in Jerusalem said the Nigerian, a health worker in her native country, had arrived in Israel several days ago. The hospital admitted her on Friday with a fever and put her in isolation.

She, the ill person, could have another "viral complaint".. Israel's Health Ministry is currently tracking this incident.

(http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/05/us-health-ebola-israel-idUSKBN0H01QW20140905)

[Bob]

No longer MONTHS, but vaccines may be ready in WEEKS..

(Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/06/world/africa/ebola-vaccine-could-be-ready-by-november-who-says.html?_r=0))

"Two Vaccines to Protect Against Ebola Could Be Available Within Weeks"

200 scientists, ethicists and clinicians from around the world had reached a consensus in identifying the most promising vaccines and potential treatments and developing strategies for testing them. The two vaccines, which are now being studied in humans, are undergoing initial tests of their safety and immune system effects. These began this month in a small number of volunteers in the United States, Britain and in Mali, which borders Guinea, where the outbreak emerged.

One vaccine is being tested by its developers, GlaxoSmithKline and the United States National Institutes of Health, and a British consortium.

The other is from Tekmira (http://allafrica.com/stories/201408252678.html), the Canadian Firm (who was given 140 million $ for development just recently)..

[Bob]

Sierra Leone says it is in FULL LOCKDOWN mode now.

People will not be allowed to leave their homes.

Rights issue
Sierra Leone officials said more than 20,000 people would be deployed to make sure residents stayed indoors.

Sidie Yahya Tunis, the health ministry's communications director: "We don't expect them to refuse. You follow or else you'll be breaking the law.

"If you disobey then you are disobeying the president."

Ebola casualties
Up to 5 September
2,105
Ebola deaths - probable, confirmed and suspected

The World Health Organization (WHO) announced on Friday that health workers could be given vaccines as from November, when safety tests are completed.

(Source (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29093048))

[Bob]

The person in Israel who came in ill with a fever (from Nigeria) has not been showing Ebola with the testing.

(Source (http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2014/09/nigerian-tourist-does-not-have-ebola-israeli-docs-say-789.html))

"A 28-year-old female tourist from Nigeria who was quarantined in Shaare Tzedek Hospital in Jerusalem Friday does not have Ebola, doctors said today."

"The woman – a nurse in her native country who arrived in Israel Wednesday as a tourist – tested positive for a bacterial infection. Her condition greatly improved after receiving antibiotics and she is no longer quarantined."

[Bob]

Dr Kent Brantly who was treated at Emory University Isolation Unit (Georgia, USA) has donated blood for making a "serum" (similarly as early talked about in this thread about Brantly's treatment methods - Brantly, 33, who contracted the virus while working in Liberia in July, received a vial of blood from an Ebola survivor before being evacuated to an Atlanta’s Emory University Hospital isolation unit. Brantly was also given the experimental drug ZMapp monoclonal anti-body treatment)..

In this case, 51-year-old Dr. Rick Sacra received two transfusions of this serum from Brantly's blood, at the hospital since Brantly made the donation on Friday.

If this method works, others in the affected Countries in Africa who have survived and have strong anti-bodies to the virus, may be asked to perform similar blood donations, for the serum to be extracted. These serum's are similar to blood plasma where the red blood cells have been removed, leaving the remaining components. Screening for other diseases in patient's blood may be needed.. Malaria traces, denge, lassa fever virus anti-bodies, or even yellow fever viruses may be present in such serums, and one would not want to be creating a similar situation as what "contaminated" vaccines may create..

(Source (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/09/11/ebola-survivor-shares-blood-with-infected-american-doctor/))

[Bob]

12-18 months the amount of time to get the rising 'wild-fire' like Ebola spread under control is the prediction at the moment.

This time period has been bumped up from the earlier predictions of 3 months.

This bump also means an exponentially larger amount of people and animals affected.


http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/09/13/world/EPIDEMIC-1/EPEDEMIC-1-master675.jpg

People infected are still just lying in the streets, or hidden from sight in the back allys or homes. Dying in droves.

What worries public health officials most is that the epidemic has begun to grow exponentially in Liberia. In the most recent week reported, Liberia had nearly 400 new cases, almost double the number reported the week before. Another grave concern, the W.H.O. said, is “evidence of substantial under-reporting of cases and deaths.” The organization reported on Friday that the number of Ebola cases as of Sept. 7 was 4,366, including 2,218 deaths.

The estimated number of deaths varies depending on the information source, some are saying it's closer to 2400 now, but others remind us that such is probably now more like 4800 or higher due to the under-reporting, or hidden cases from rural areas. The infection numbers could also be double, close to 8400.

There has been no indication of any downturn in the epidemic in the three countries that have widespread and intense transmission.

(Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/13/world/africa/us-scientists-see-long-fight-against-ebola.html?_r=0))

[Bob]

We've said this repeatedly, particular tribal practices, and fear are preventing the stopping of Ebola in Africa, and contributing to the acceleration and spread.

(http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/11/health/ebola-contact-tracing/)

When the disease out break in a community is 'hidden', it can spread because there is no isolation, and no information about 'how to deal with' the local infection. The family members spread the disease with relatives while caring for the afflicted loved one's.

The process that's helped stop diseases like SARS and smallpox seems simple: Find everyone who had close contact with infected individuals and track them for 21 days. If any of these contacts comes down with the disease, isolate them from the community and repeat the process by tracking the contacts' contacts.

In Sierra Leone, Levine, an officer with the Epidemic Intelligence Service at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, remembers the words of her agency's director, Dr. Tom Frieden. Battling Ebola is like fighting a forest fire: Miss even just one contact, and you could be leaving behind a burning ember that will reignite the outbreak.

MEANWHILE across the world CUBA has decided to send a group of 165 Doctors and Nurses to Sierra Leone. Some in the West are predicting that both Sierra Leone and Liberia ARE NOW LOST.

(http://news.sciencemag.org/africa/2014/09/cuba-commit-large-health-corps-ebola-fight)

Ignoring this epidemic is not the right thing to do. Nations around the world are slowly starting to realize the significance of this outbreak.

This deployment is the biggest contribution of health care staff by any single country so far to help control the epidemic, noted WHO Director-General Margaret Chan. “This will make a significant difference in Sierra Leone,” Chan said.

To put the numbers in perspective: WHO has deployed about 500 foreign medical experts to the region. Because they rotate, at any one time about 170 of them are in the affected countries, Chan said.

[Roisin]

What very well may happen as the US is already sending military personnel to W. Africa to train their military units on how to help contain this virus by containing its people, and that is that our own troops will end up taking over that task which will result in many troops being exposed to that virus due to lack of adequate protective gear and decontamination stations.

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To put the numbers in perspective: WHO has deployed about 500 foreign medical experts to the region. Because they rotate, at any one time about 170 of them are in the affected countries, Chan said.

Hmmm, one would think that WHO would have changed that "rotation" policy by now considering its inherent dangers.

[brenie]

Hi Bob, don't you just love Cuba ? 165 doctors sent Africa.
Now we have the un rotating teams of 500, i'm wary of un claims, did'nt they go to Haiti with the same good statements ?
Things are not looking good.

[Roisin]

I shudder to think what consequences those 165 Cuban doctors and nurses were up against if they didn't go along with the program to assist in W. Africa. All health workers are gov't employee's in Cuba.

This is nothing but political theater to upstage the US and co.

Let's just hope Cuba packs enough protective gear and has an aircraft "on call" to fly the ones who get infected back home.

[Bob]

They're talking about mutations of the Virus again..

Dr. James Le Duc, the director of the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas, said the problem is that no one is keeping track of the mutations happening across West Africa, so no one really knows what the virus has become.

One group of researchers looked at how Ebola changed over a short period of time in just one area in Sierra Leone early on in the outbreak, before it was spreading as fast as it is now. They found more than 300 genetic changes in the virus.

"It's frightening to look at how much this virus mutated within just three weeks," said Dr. Pardis Sabeti, an associate professor at Harvard and senior associate member of the Broad Institute, where the research was done."

(Source (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/health/ebola-airborne/))

The group Doctors Without Borders says Monrovia, Liberia, needs 1,000 beds for Ebola patients but has only 240, and it has had to turn patients away, sending them back to neighborhoods where they could infect more people.

This week, a Pentagon spokesman said the United States is sending a 25-bed field hospital to Monrovia.

"A 25-bed hospital with nobody to staff it? That's not the scale we need to be thinking about," Le Duc said.

"It's an absolute embarrassment.

"When there was a typhoon in the Philippines, the Navy was there in 48 hours and had billions of dollars in resources."

And what is this about then?

[Bob]

(sigh).. potential is up now to 22,000,000 (that is 22 million) people now at risk, even without the mutations..


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/12/1410529180948_wps_5_EBOV_AfrCty_tif_EBOV_AfrC.jpg

(Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2753421/Real-risk-Ebola-virus-mutate-AIRBORNE-disease-expert-warns.html))

A new study by Oxford University scientists created this new map showing the places most at risk of an Ebola outbreak. They predict up to 22 million people could be at risk.

Dr Osterholm said public health officials, while discussing the possibility in private, are reluctant to air their concerns.

'They don't want to be accused of screaming "Fire!" in a crowded theater - as I'm sure some will accuse me of doing.

'But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.' He called for the United Nations to mobilise medical, public health and humanitarian aid to 'smother the epidemic'.

Meanwhile Professor Heymann, told MailOnline: 'No one can predict what will happen with the mutation of the virus.'

'I would like to see the evidence that this could become a respiratory virus', says Professor Heymann. (this has been discussed and shown how the virus IS able to infect primates via airborne earlier in this thread, by a respiratory disease specialist MD. - see this link for the details and government studies on airborne spread - http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/08/airborne_transmission_of_ebola.html )

'The risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

In 2012, Canadian researchers found the virus could be passed via the respiratory system (THAT MEANS AIRBORNE) between pigs and monkeys - both of which have similar lungs to humans. It was the same virus as that which is responsible for the current death toll in West Africa.

'The virus's epidemiology is consistent with transmission via bodily secretions and excretions, which is exactly the same as other past epidemics.

'In order to change it would have to develop a whole new system to allow it to attach to the receptors in the respiratory system.

'The difference with this outbreak is the intensity of the transmissions, it is spreading much more in communities rather than hospitals, as in the past.

'The best thing we can do is stop the current outbreak.'

Professor Heymann said the way to take control of the virus is adopting the same three-pronged strategy that has proved successful in the past.

'The first thing to do is isolate any patient with the virus, and get them to hospital, while ensuring healthworkers are protected,' he said.

'The second is contact tracing, to identify those at risk.

'Once identified those people must have their temperatures checked twice a day and if they develop a fever within 21 days, they should be hospitalised.

'And the third thing to help combat the virus is community empowerment, helping people understand how it spreads and how to stop it spreading.'

[Bob]

With the RISK level being what it is, the US had decided to surpass Cuba's efforts, and feels it will do some good by assigning 3000 trained US Military Personnel to West Africa.

(Source (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/15/ebola-crisis-obama-administration-to-request-1-billion-to-fight-outbreak/))

The US is going to request 1 Billion $ to fight, to solve this Epidemic.

The Pentagon has requested Congress to divert $500 million in overseas contingency funds in support of the effort.

The new initiatives include training as many as 500 health care workers a week; erecting 17 heath care facilities with approximately 100 beds each; setting up a joint command headquartered in Monrovia, Liberia, to coordinate between U.S. and international relief efforts; providing home health care kits to hundreds of thousands of households, including 50,000 that the U.S. Agency for International Development will deliver to Liberia this week; and carrying out a home-and community-based campaign to train local populations on how to handle exposed patients.

The fight against Ebola is considered, in part, a National Security issue because the disease threatens fragile governments in Africa and could lead to more safe havens for terrorists. The request falls under the jurisdiction of the Pentagon because the military has the capacity to set up quarantine camps.

[Roisin]

U.S. military will lead $750 million fight against Ebola in West Africa

President Obama will announce Tuesday that the U.S. military will take the lead in overseeing what has been a chaotic and widely criticized response to the worst Ebola outbreak in history, dispatching up to 3,000 military personnel to West Africa in an effort that could cost up to $750 million over the next six months, according to senior administration officials.

By the end of the week, a general sent by U.S. Africa Command will be in place in Monrovia, Liberia — the country where transmission rates are increasing exponentially — to lead the effort called Operation United Assistance. The command will help oversee and coordinate U.S. and international relief efforts while a new, separate regional staging base will help accelerate transportation of urgently needed equipment, supplies and personnel.

In addition, the Pentagon will send engineers to set up 17 treatment centers in Liberia — each with a 100-bed capacity — as well as medical personnel to train up to 500 health-care workers a week in the region....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/us-military-to-lead-ebola-fight/2014/09/15/69db3da0-3d32-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html

[spizella]

A mathematical model that replicates Ebola outbreaks can no longer be used to ascertain the eventual scale of the current epidemic, finds new research.

Dr Thomas House, of the University’s Warwick Mathematics Institute, developed a model that incorporated data from past outbreaks that successfully replicated their eventual scale.
The research, titled "Epidemiological Dynamics of Ebola Outbreaks" and published by eLife, shows that when applying the available data from the ongoing 2014 outbreak to the model that it is, according to Dr House, “out of all proportion and on an unprecedented scale when compared to previous outbreaks”.
Dr House commented: “If we analyse the data from past outbreaks we are able to design a model that works for the recorded cases of the virus spreading and can successfully replicate their eventual size. The current outbreak does not fit this previous pattern and, as a result, we are not in a position to provide an accurate prediction of the current outbreak”.
Chance events, Dr House argues, are an essential factor in the spread of Ebola and many other contagious diseases. “If we look at past Ebola outbreaks there is an identifiable way of predicting their overall size based on modelling chance events that are known to be important when the numbers of cases of infection are small and the spread is close to being controlled”.
Chance events can include a person’s location when they are most infectious, whether they are alone when ill, the travel patterns of those with whom they come into contact or whether they are close to adequate medical assistance.
The Warwick model successfully replicated the eventual scale of past outbreaks by analysing two key chance events: the initial number of people and the level of infectiousness once an epidemic is underway.
“With the current situation we are seeing something that defies this previous pattern of outbreak severity. As the current outbreak becomes more severe, it is less and less likely that it is a chance event and more likely that something more fundamental has changed”, says Dr House.
Discussing possible causes for the unprecedented nature of the current outbreak, Dr House argues that there could be a range of factors that lead it to be on a different scale to previous cases; “This could be as a result of a number of different factors: mutation of virus, changes in social contact patterns or some combination of these with other factors. It is implausible to explain the current situation solely through a particularly severe outbreak within the previously observed pattern”.
In light of the research findings and the United Nations calling for a further $1bn USD to tackle the current outbreak, Dr House says that “Since we are not in a position to quantify the eventful scale of this unprecedented outbreak, the conclusion from this study is not to be complacent but to mobilise resources to combat the disease.”

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140916122936.htm

[Bob]

British company Glaxo-Smith-Kline's dual strain 'vaccine' for the Ebola

Take a primate virus (the Chimpanzee common cold), splice in some proteins from Ebola Sudan and Ebola-Zaire and voila' ! Ebola vaccine.. Or so they say.

Now give it to a patient and see what happens? Any bad cytokine flooding reactions (massive allergic responses) ? Nope, not yet.

Give it to 10 more in the study, so that 20 then are now testing the vaccine..

From the Article:

"The first human trial of an Ebola vaccine has so far produced no adverse effects, according to a National Institutes of Health official.

"The comments were made by Anthony Fauci, director of the NIH's Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases when he testified before Congress on the Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa on Tuesday.

"So far 10 of the 20 volunteers have been vaccinated, and thus far there have been no red flags," Fauci said.

"The Phase I trial is being conducted at an NIH facility in Bethesda, Md. and is focused on building scientific evidence that the vaccine is safe in humans. It was developed by British drug-maker GlaxoSmithKline in conjunction with the NIH.

"The vaccine is based on a chimpanzee cold virus, chimp adenovirus type 3, which is being used as a carrier of pieces of genetic material of two Ebola strains: Sudan and Zaire; the latter is currently causing the massive epidemic in West Africa. The Ebola genetic material in the virus is not able to replicate and poses no harm to the people who receive it.

"This process is just the first phase of a multi-step evaluation intended to show that the virus is safe, and that it works in humans. Facui said that this first phase of clinical trials for the vaccine is expected to finish by the end of November or early December. After that, they will launch expanded trials to further prove that the vaccine is safe.

"The proof is in the pudding to show scientifically that it works," Fauci said."

(Source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/09/16/an-ebola-vaccine-was-given-to-10-volunteers-and-there-are-no-red-flags-yet/))

[Sidney]

What if........the midwest (respiratory) virus was "designed" to be merged with this ebola outbreak in order to create the "perfect storm". Seems like a plausable scenario to me. Just thinking out loud here.

[Bob]

What if........the midwest (respiratory) virus was "designed" to be merged with this ebola outbreak in order to create the "perfect storm". Seems like a plausible scenario to me. Just thinking out loud here.

I think those are very valid 'dots' as a thought. I recall when watching 'bo's speech at CDC Tuesday, there was a very brief mention of the new virus affecting the young kids in the same breath as the Ebola.. Obviously it was detected. I had heard from an associate that in Utah, his kid, in his mid twenties, was affected by the respiratory virus after eating something in his salad... I would conjecture it was something he was not normally 'sensitive to', but when primed by the virus (staying latent), add the 'food protein' and the body goes into hyper-overwhelm. He reported within 20 minutes, his throat windpipe had started to inflame and then close up, warranting an air-medivac to a major hospital able to put him on intubation (breathing tube and machine).. he is currently out of danger now, having to have massive steroid injections to stop the reaction.. A virus can sensitize the cells to be hyper..

[Bob]

A mathematical model that replicates Ebola outbreaks can no longer be used to ascertain the eventual scale of the current epidemic, finds new research.

Dr Thomas House, of the University’s Warwick Mathematics Institute, developed a model that incorporated data from past outbreaks that successfully replicated their eventual scale.[..]

“With the current situation we are seeing something that defies this previous pattern of outbreak severity. As the current outbreak becomes more severe, it is less and less likely that it is a chance event and more likely that something more fundamental has changed”, says Dr House.

[..]


And that is another reason why this thread was started back in March 2014 this year. Something seemed very wrong specifically with the regional stakeholders. Why this part of Africa, and why the countries affected. Why would a disease of this kind be lain upon these people, who would be spiritually suspicious and probably be very grateful to those who provide the solution to remove the evil spirits.. (earlier in the thread and in the title, the question of a bioweapon release is discussed - the various stateholder parties vying for Africa's resources, in this area is discussed as well, specifically gold, diamonds, strategic and utility metal resources, and OIL.) It was pointed out also LukOil last year decided to get into Diamonds.. And apparently capture a LARGE portion of the production - Liberia and Sierra Leone are sources of the 'blood diamond'. And oil deposits off-shore both countries have been eyed by China and Russia. Accidental or deliberate, or natural occurrence for this highly mutating Ebola Zaire strain outbreak?

[Sidney]

I agree. There is more than just cookies in the jar that the U S cannot keep their hands out of. As always with an agenda, follow the money. Who benefits from this?

[Bob]

Sierra Leone has gone lockdown

Citizens of Sierra Leone, among the nations worst hit by the epidemic, will be banned from leaving their homes from Thursday to Sunday, the Guardian reports.

During that time, health workers will travel from house to house, identifying cases.

About 21,000 police and soldiers will be deployed to keep people off the streets.

[Bob]

William Pooley, the British nurse who was cured of Ebola a couple weeks ago, has been flown to America on a life-saving mission to give blood to a new victim of the deadly virus.

Mr Pooley has travelled to Atlanta for an emergency blood transfusion which could save the life of a doctor who contracted the disease while working in Sierra Leone.

It is becoming accepted that the blood serum of patients who have survived could provide a needed human created monoclonal antibody treatment (zMapp is the only listed experimental monoclonal antibody treatment requiring millions of $$ to create, and has experienced immense licensing issues with squabbles from the developers).

How much is the blood of the survivors worth? To save a life, priceless.

Mr Pooley was put on a flight on Friday night, paid for by the World Health Organisation, to Atlanta where the doctor is being treated in an isolation unit at Emory University Hospital.

Just hours earlier the Foreign Office had urgently issued him with a new passport because his was incinerated with all of his belongings after he returned from Africa.

Mr Pooley, from Suffolk, and the new patient, who has not been named, are said to be close friends after working together at the Ebola treatment centre in Kenema, Sierra Leone.

(http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/ebola-outbreak-survivor-william-pooley-flown-to-us-to-give-doctor-with-virus-emergency-blood-transfusion-9737888.html)

The aid worker, who is the fourth American to contract Ebola, arrived at the hospital (Emory) eight days ago on a specially equipped plane from Sierra Leone.


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[Bob]

Read our LIPS (even if it is behind the mask..)


9qqHOKUXY5U

Dr. Anthony Fauci of the CDC (head - of the U.S. Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases)... "It won't spread by the air"... he had to tell Congress..

Well dohhhh... It spreads by droplets (secretions) IN THE AIR... Let's get the facts straight...

OVER and over the drum beats says non-stop, bodily fluids, like secretions... What is in a cough, dohh, play the video above good Doctor Fauci then explain to us lay people one more time, to read your lips (behind the mask, and level 4 containment facility, it doesn't spead when one is exposed to a cough or sneeze...)

Sure doc, doesn't spread by air, but by the LIQUIDS (call them secretions, dohh...) sheesh.. that sleight of hand dialog just doesn't cut it..

(Source (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/275309.php) - medical results from droplet spreading of disease)



(Source (http://www.voanews.com/content/us-official-tries-to-allay-fear-ebola-could-become-airborne/2453310.html) - Fauci testimony - )



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Magic spin not working? How about less doublespeak and more solutions..

[Bob]

Savages capture (kill?) medical staff trying to stop the spread

Savages (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/savage)or superstitious uneducated people once again...

"We won't let you tell us we have the disease, if we know about it, we will certainly die..."

That's the attitude where the infection broke out and continues to wildfire spread.. The savages (uneducated uncivilized violent natives, superstitious, won't listen to reason, won't listen to facts, prefer to 'hide the head in the sand' and remain oblivious to what is killing them and continuing to contribute to the disease spread), apparently took the medical staff and journalists. Last month, riots erupted in the area of Guinea where the health team went missing - near where the outbreak was first recorded - after rumours that medics who were disinfecting a market were contaminating people.

The three doctors and three journalists went missing on Tuesday after residents in the village of Wome pelted them with stones as they visited the village.

One of the journalists managed to escape and told reporters that she could hear the villagers looking for them while she was hiding.

The governor of Nzerekore told the BBC that the group were being held captive, although it remains unclear why.


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/77676000/jpg/_77676031_guineaconakrynzerekorewome464180914.jpg

A government delegation, including the health minister and the communications minister, has been dispatched to the region but the BBC's Makeme Bamba, in the Guinean capital Conakry, says the delegation have been unable to reach the village by road because a main bridge has been blocked.

The team is negotiating with local elders to try to gain access, she says.

There have been many reports of people in the region saying they do not believe Ebola exists, or refusing to cooperate with health authorities, fearing that a diagnosis means certain death.

references from: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29256443

Savages of Guinea - http://allafrica.com/stories/200101080390.html

[Bob]

Wome' Guinea - the scenes of the epicenter for the wildfire outbreak

Why would it have spread in the first place?

Civilization is zero in the area.

N'Zérékoré: after the violence, the authorities still are not able to get into the region - inaccessible Wome.

As announced in previous news reports, the town of Wome, located more than 50 kilometers from the City of N'Zérékoré, was the scene of violent protests reluctantly Monday against a medical team trying to bring awareness on the Ebola virus. Until this morning, the town remains inaccessible to authorities N'Zérékoré, testified a colleague reached by telephone .

Since the attack in the region N'Z érékoré of Wome on medical team, no official figures have yet been announced. Several people are wounded while six members of the delegation including three journalists remain missing.

According to the colleague reporting, reached this Thursday, September 18, 2014, the populations of Wome had, at first, made as human shields by lying on the road to prevent the security forces to intervene and were then blocked the road with tree trunks.

On Wednesday, ministers of health and of information that are serving in the Forest Region as part of the awareness of Ebola campaign, could not reach the place. There is generally a blockage happening where people use equipment.

Prior to the current violence, the sages of Gouécké and priests had been appointed to go try to calm the population. These when asked about the fate of the six members of the delegation simply replied that in the stampede, they did not know the disposition of these people.

The six missing persons are: Dr. Ibrahima Fernandez, prefectural health director N'zérékoré, Dr Barry, Deputy General Hospital N'Zérékoré Kolié Pastor, director of a health center in Zao, Facely Camara journalist N'Zaly Freedom FM, Molou Sharif and Sidiki Sidibe, rural radio journalists N'Zérékoré.

(Source (http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2014/09/guinea-more-on-the-missing-ebola-team.html))

The latest news is another delegation was preparing to leave Thursday morning for Wome N'Zérékoré to meet the population and try to determine the fate of missing. The only reporter who got away, namely Mariam Sagno has already joined his family in N'Zérékoré.

This madness is why the Ebola continues to fester and spin out of control, coming out of this region with new outbreak "embers" of this wildfire.

When such attitudes persist, the whole world remains at risk. This is getting more and more serious as the ignorant belligerent crowds continue to grow (until they die of the disease), then another one of their kinfolk takes up the riot, until they die and so it continues..

[Bob]

Doctors MURDERED while trying to help where the WILDFIRE OUTBREAK originated.

Update on the Wome' outbreak and the murder of the Doctors and journalists traveling into the area in attempts to educate the SAVAGES.

I am going to call it what it is - a savage attack by illiterate ingrates devoid of knowledge who use surreptitiousness and rumor to drive people into a frenzy to kill people trying to help them.

Give them compassion or nuke the damn place?

This is where the spread is ensuing from. Where the wildfire continues to fester.

(Source (http://www.rt.com/news/188916-ebola-health-team-killed/))

These people have been compassionately explained, with the leaders of the community that there is a danger there, which is not some evil spirit, but is a serious disease, being spread by the practices being conducted in the community.. Instead of listening to their leaders, they have shown that they are animals, and ones who are vile, and inconsiderate of any help being offered to them. NUKE them is the kindest to save the rest of the community and to save the rest of the world.. Right?

The article says : "Throats slit: Ebola health team, journalists brutally killed in Guinea"

"The bodies of eight people – including three journalists – were found in Guinea after an Ebola health team came under attack two days ago, officials said. Meanwhile, the UN plans to deploy a special mission to fight the virus in the worst-hit countries."

Government spokesman Damantang Albert Camara told Reuters that the workers and journalists were brutally beaten to death.

“The eight bodies were found in the village latrine. Three of them had their throats slit,” he said.

Earlier this week, the team members met with locals. A resident named Yves told the Guardian that there were no problems until after that assembly took place.

“The meeting started off well; the traditional chiefs welcomed the delegation with 10 kola nuts as a traditional greeting,” Yves said. “It was afterwards that some youths came out and started stoning them. They dragged some of them away, and damaged their vehicles.”

IT IS TIME TO STOP THIS behavior, they do not listen to their tribal leaders, they do not listen to reason - yet they insist on infecting the rest of the communities..

[Sidney]

What to believe? The spin is spinning.

[Bob]

Seems to me the most recent "spin" starts with the CDC director(s), saying the Ebola Zaire cannot spread from contacting droplets from a cough or sneeze... they are using the words "not airborne", and in the next breath saying it is spread by contact with bodily fluids.. That is so much double speak. Earlier in the thread a Pulmonary Specialist from Tennessee reported studies showing the virus IS able to be spread from infected animals to primates "at a distance" in the same room. Saying then "droplets with the infection" (maybe they have attached to floating "dust particles" (the research wasn't that specific to identify the method that allows the particles to "float") and then make it to the other animals to infect them.

To say that Ebola can make an infection from TWO viral particles (that concentration) and then in the next breath say it can't spread except by close contact, such as kissing or hugging... WHAT exactly is being transferred during a hug? sweat? breath?

The report on the attack and killing of the doctors and journalists is from an on-site journalist and RT.COM

It seems that due to the "oath", it is out-of-character for a doctor to allow for fostering the spread of a disease, but obviously it is not out of character to one who is more politician with an agenda... what agenda exactly - let the disease spread? install troops? install martial laws worldwide? If this was a deliberate bioweapon release, is there a worry about freaking out the rest of the planet, that someone would be allowed to do such a thing? What if it were a rogue general, or rogue bioweapons scientists opting for "bribes"?

Rogues - from the Former Soviet Union - Dangers from


Will Russian Scientists Go Rogue? A Survey on the Threat and the Impact of Western Assistance

"The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 led to a deep, sustained crisis in Russian science," said Deborah Yarsike Ball, National Security Analyst, Proliferation and Terrorism Prevention Program, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and former Title VIII-Supported Short-Term Scholar, Kennan Institute, at a 16 December 2004 lecture at the Kennan Institute on the possibility of Russian scientists collaborating with "rogue states."

"This crisis, she explained, led to significant concern over the conditions in the weapons-of-mass-destruction complex and the possibility that scientists previously engaged in such activity would relocate to states interested in weapons development."

Her report was briefly mentioned in an earlier post in this thread.

"Ball pointed to three main findings from the survey. First, the survey indicated that a small but significant minority (21 percent) of scientists in the Russian Federation are likely to consider relocating to states such as Iran, Iraq, Syria, or North Korea where they could work in their fields, which could involve projects related to weapons of mass destruction. Older scientists and women were less likely in general to "go rogue," as were those who lived in Moscow or its vicinity. Scientists who had been engaged in weapons-related research were neither more nor less likely to consider immigrating to a "rogue state."

"On the question of whether assistance programs help to prevent scientists from "going rogue," Ball stated that the survey results show that "the programs work."

Scientists who received Western grants were less likely to consider "going rogue." (Read BRIBES)

Twenty-five percent of respondents who had never received a Western grant or had applied for but been denied a grant indicated a willingness to move to Iran, Iraq, Syria, or North Korea to work, compared to only 12 percent of grant recipients. The survey results also showed that Russian scientists receiving a Western grant were less likely to "go rogue" than those who received only Russian grants.

"Other questions in the survey gauged the scientists' sense of responsibility for their research. Ball explained that, overall, the Russian scientists feel a strong moral responsibility about how their research is ultimately used as well as a sense of national duty (that Russian national interests were more important than their own personal interests).

"She noted, "While most scientists are responsible, a small but significant minority still indicate a willingness to ‘go rogue.'" A majority of respondents favorably viewed controls over the rights of weapons researchers to work abroad.

"Finally, Ball discussed the study's findings concerning the ability of Russian scientists to adapt to the changes in their field since the fall of the Soviet Union. She noted that between 1991 and 1994, there was a 75 percent drop in state funding for science.

"Throughout the 1990s Russian science suffered from both external and internal "brain drain" as thousands of Russian scientists and technicians either emigrated abroad or moved on to new careers in Russia outside the field of science. Russian science was forced to accomodate a new system of organization and management, much as the Russian economy had been.

"That wrenching change was reflected in survey results, as the respondents described the new realities that affect their daily activities: the greater role of grants, a severe decline in state funding, more competition, a bias for applied over fundamental research, and a stronger connection to the international scientific community. In general, they were positive about the role of grants and new interactions with international colleagues.

"They were more negative about the emphasis on applied science, the loss of state financing, and the crisis they see in the lack of young people entering the field. The survey also showed that Western grants help improve the scientists' adaptation to non-weapons-related work. A full 61 percent of respondents said that "Western grants and contracts have encouraged Russian scientists to do more work that has non-military applications."

"Ball concluded by underscoring the importance of Western non-proliferation programs in reducing the likelihood of Russian brain drain to countries of concern. Such programs, according to Ball, should continue to be adequately funded."

In other words, the BRIBES to these scientists is KEEP THEM WORKING and occupied, and don't let them go work for the "bad guys".. (hmmmmm)

(Source (http://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/will-russian-scientists-go-rogue-survey-the-threat-and-the-impact-western-assistance))

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Bob , just saw this article on David Ickes site by Zen Gardner
who does some good articles....Definitely on the conspiracy lines...


EBOLA: Natural, Psy-Op or Another 9/11?

Friday 19th September 2014 at 08:45 By david-icke

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EBOLA: Natural, Psy-Op or Another 9/11?
Disasters
False Flag Events
by White Wolf - Sep 17, 2014

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“…two months ago, I directed my team to make this a national security priority.
We’re working this across our entire government, which is why today I’m joined by
leaders throughout my administration, including from my national security team.”
– Obama in his speech at the Centre of Disease Control

by R. Teichmann


“Ebola is now an epidemic of the likes that we have not seen before. It’s spiraling
out of control. It is getting worse. It’s spreading faster and exponentially. Today,
thousands of people in West Africa are infected………That number could rapidly grow
to tens of thousands. And if the outbreak is not stopped now, we could be looking
at hundreds of thousands of people infected, with profound political and economic
and security implications for all of us. And that’s why, two months ago, I directed
my team to make this a national security priority. We’re working this across our
entire government, which is why today I’m joined by leaders throughout my
administration, including from my national security team.” – Obama in his
speech at the Centre of Disease Control 16th of September, Atlanta Georgia, USA
(emphasis added)

The history of Ebola

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Ebola outbreaks 1979 -2008, source




‘According to mainstream science the Ebola virus was first isolated in
1976 during outbreaks of Ebola hemorrhagic fever in the Democratic
Republic of the Congo (then Zaire) and Southern Sudan.
The outbreaks occured solely in Africa.

Interestingly, in 1989 an outbreak of hemorrhagic fever occured in a
research laboratory in Reston, USA among laboratory macaque monkeys.
Tissue samples from dead animals were sent to the infamous bio-weapons
laboratory of the United States, the Army Medical Research Institute of
Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, Maryland, where laboratory
tests showed antibodies to Ebola virus.

Researchers concluded it was another strain of Ebola, or a new filovirus of
Asian origin, which they named Reston ebolavirus (REBOV) after the location
of the incident. The World Health Organisation classifies the Ebola virus as a
Risk Group 4 pathogen, which is the highest of 4 levels.’


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Ebola_virus_virion.jpg/220px-Ebola_virus_virion.jpg
Electron micrograph of an Ebola virus, source

As with all contagious diseases we can be quite sure that both the African Ebola
virus as well as the Asian one were experimented with at Fort Detrick to weaponize
them. What the current state of this ‘research’ is we do not know, but we can
assume that the focus was most probably to make it more transmittable as the
original virus could only be transmitted by bodily fluids from an infected person (or
even dead corpses).

The current outbreak

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Diseased_Ebola_2014.png/290px-Diseased_Ebola_2014.png

Increase over time in the cases and deaths during the 2014 outbreak, source

The current outbreak is said to have started in Guinea in March this year. On 8
August 2014, the WHO declared the epidemic to be an international public health
emergency. Interestingly some facts have come to light that beg the question if the
current outbreak is natural or manufactured. The investigative journalist Jon
Rappoport has discovered that:


For the last several years, researchers from Tulane University have been active in
the African areas where Ebola is said to have broken out in 2014.

These researchers are working with other institutions, one of which is USAMRIID,
the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, a well-known center
for biowar research, located at Fort Detrick, Maryland.

Jon Rappoport backs up his statements with documents released by Tulane
University [1]

The researcher Mike Adams made public that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control
owns a patent on a particular strain of Ebola known as “EboBun.” It’s patent No. is
CA2741523A1 and it was awarded in 2010. You can view it here. He writes:


The patent summary says, “The invention provides the isolated human Ebola
(hEbola) viruses denoted as Bundibugyo (EboBun) deposited with the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention (“CDC”; Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America)
on November 26, 2007 and accorded an accession number 200706291.”

It goes on to state, “The present invention is based upon the isolation and
identification of a new human Ebola virus species, EboBun. EboBun was isolated
from the patients suffering from hemorrhagic fever in a recent outbreak in Uganda.”

It’s worth noting, by the way, that EboBun is not the same variant currently
believed to be circulating in West Africa. Clearly, the CDC needs to expand its
patent portfolio to include more strains, and that may very well be why American
Ebola victims have been brought to the United States in the first place.

In another article the same author makes the connection between the current Ebola
outbreak and the investments of Monsanto in pharmaceutical companies that could
earn billions if they come up with a ‘cure’.

So far the current outbreak is restricted to sub-saharan Africa but what if it spreads
to other continents? This is not impossible as the incubation period ranges from 2
to 21 days.

The question must be asked whether the current outbreak is a natural one or was
deliberately started to test the effectiveness of a weaponised version of the virus or
was a ‘research accident’ or is another money making scam by the
pharmaceutical / medical complex. It cannot be answered – yet.

Psy-op?

Let us go back in time. We have been bombarded with propaganda out of
Hollywood depicting the horrors of an uncontrolable outbreak, one of the latest
versions is the movie ‘Contagion’. This goes hand in hand with the outbreaks of
SARS, Bird Flue, Swine Flue all of which were used to create fear on a massive
scale and to sell vast amounts of vaccines most of which were never used and were
in the end destroyed. Fear is one of the most useful tools to keep human beings
away from realising and acting on the real issues. The hype created by the
mainstream media of any outbreak of some kind of virus occurring these days is
massive. The medical profession and the WHO also play their parts. Jon Rappoport
observes:


In areas of the world where severe malnutrition, starvation, lack of basic sanitation,
contaminated water, overcrowding, heavy pollution are present, people fall ill and
die routinely. These conditions destroy the immune system—and then any germ
that sweeps through the area causes illness and death, because body’s defenses
are shot. That’s the real problem. Here’s another point you won’t see discussed on
the mainstream news: the reliability of tests used to diagnose Ebola.Two of those
tests—antibody and PCR—are notoriously unreliable…..In fact, before 1984, when
the science was turned on its head, antibody-positive status was taken to mean the
patient’s immune system had successfully warded off the germ…

Bottom line: huge numbers of people on whom these tests are done are going to be
falsely diagnosed with Ebola.

And in a pandemic scare, diagnostic tests are going to be ignored
altogether. “Eyeball” assessment becomes the order of the day. This is exactly what
happened in the US, in the summer of 2009, when the Swine Flu scare was at its
height.The Centers for Disease Control, without informing the public, just stopped
doing tests and stopped counting numbers of American Swine Flu cases. Yet, on the
basis of zero evidence, they claimed the disease was an expanding nightmare.

Sharyl Attkisson, star investigative reporter for CBS at the time, broke this
story—and her network shut her off. There was much more she could have
exposed, but it didn’t happen. Here’s what did happen. The CDC, shaken to its core
by Attkisson’s revelations, doubled down, employing a time honored strategy: if a
lie doesn’t work, tell a much bigger lie. The CDC suddenly claimed that its
(unverified) total of tens of thousands of Swine Flu cases in America were
really “tens of millions of cases.”

As the days and weeks pass, you’re going to hear and see all manner of outrageous
propaganda about Ebola. “People of interest” and “possible carriers” and “people
who might have come in contact with someone who has Ebola” will morph
into “suspected cases of Ebola” and “victims of Ebola.”

The psyop warriors and their dupes will scream “global pandemic” every fifteen seconds.

To exert control over the population and obtain compliance (stay indoors, don’t
travel, avoid contact with people who might be ill, etc.), they’ll say anything. Every
so-called “pandemic” is a test: how well will the population follow orders? That’s the
whole point.

If this current outbreak is indeed a psy-op we have to take into consideration what

effect false alarms produce. It is well known that if false alarms occur frequently
they are, after sufficient alarms have turned out to be false, not regarded as an
alarm at all. Thus we could also be dealing with yet another manufactured false
alarm to lull the public into just that state. This to keep the public from taking
appropriate steps when a real threat on a massive scale emerges. One may ask,
why would they do this? And here we are entering dark waters.

The Depopulation Agenda

There can be no doubt that the global elite has a depopulation agenda. They have
stated it clearly. From the Georgia Guidestones “MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER
500,000,000” to the famous statement made by Bill Gates “The world today has
6.8 billion people. That’s heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really
great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could
lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!” to the various UN agencies that developed
Agenda 21 and are dealing with population ‘management’ and the statement by
one of the elite’s foremost ‘thinkers’ Brzezinski saying in 2009 “…in early times, it
was easier to control a million people, literally it was easier to control a million
people than physically to kill a million people. Today, it is infinitely easier to kill a
million people than to control a million people. It is easier to kill than to control….”.
We see that it is openly discussed how to go about the business of killing billions of
humans and depopulate the planet.

There are basically two ways to achieve this goal to reduce the world’s population.

There is the ‘soft kill’ option which includes methods like water fluoridation, the
slow poisoning of drinking water with chemicals, herbicides, pesticides from
agriculture and medical drugs, the altering of human DNA by stealth through GMOs,
the poisoning of the air by spraying substances into the atmosphere (supposedly to
migitate ‘global warming’), the bombardment of humans with radiation from
nuclear power plants, Fukushima, and with microwaves from WiFi and cellphones.
And not to forget the results of ‘allopathic medicine’ which kills enormous amounts
of people every year. The manufacturing of hunger and disease through the
destruction of local subsistence farming all over the world is another method. All
these methods are implemented mostly under the radar of most people or are
already accepted practice . The soft kill option is taking place in our daily lives and
has been for some time. But it turns out that humans are much more resistant than
expected and many of the methods are also vehemently opposed and increasingly
exposed by engaged and aware people everywhere.

Then there is the ‘hard kill’ option which would be pulling the plug by unleashing a
nuclear war. The problem with it is that a ‘favourable’ outcome for the elite
themselves cannot be guaranteed. So what remains is unleashing bio-warfare. If
the elite is in possession of a cure to an unleashed epidemic this might become the
preferred option because it can easily be blamed on ‘nature’.

Is the Current Ebola Outbreak the Beginning of a ‘Hard Kill’ or a Second 9/11?

It cannot be excluded that the current Ebola outbreak is the beginning of a massive
depopulation operation. But it could just as well be a psy-op to remove the final
stumbling block to the implementation of total corporate/executive control of the
US: people’s resistance to the police state. Just as 9/11 was used to justify the
never ending ‘Global War on Terror’ an Ebola outbreak, whether real or hyped up,
could be used as the justification to end all freedoms and all resistance. Let us
remember what Obama just said:

“…, two months ago, I directed my team to make this a national security priority….

Note that he is not concerned with a medical emergency but with ‘national security’.

All pieces of the jigsaw puzzle for the implementation of total control are in place:

– The militarisation of the police

– The FEMA camps

– The coffins

– The trains fitted with shackles

Now add to this that recently the government ordered 160.000 HazMat suits [2];
that on July 31, 2014 Obama signed Executive Order order 13674 which allows the
U.S. federal government to arrest and quarantine any person who shows symptoms
of infectious disease. [3]

The rounded up people will be put into ‘quarantine centres’. We need to understand
that quarantine centers are actually ‘death camps’ where governments put people
to die. Even if you aren’t infected before you’re thrown into quarantine, you will be
rapidly infected by the other people already there. This is why quarantine centers
often contain cremation ovens so that FEMA can efficiently dispose of all the dead
bodies. It is interesting to note that this executive order was signed more than a
week before the WHO declared the epidemic to be an international public health
emergency on August 8th.

I am not in the business of fearmongering but this is the situation as I understand
it and it raises more serious questions than there are answers.

What do you think?

Notes

[1] https://tulane.edu/som/dean/upload/Deans-Update-October2012.pdf

http://tulane.edu/news/newwave/101807_bioterrorism.cfm

[2] http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lakeland-industries-announces-global-availability- 142200024.html

[3] https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2014/08/06/2014-18682/revised-list-of-quarantinable-communicable-diseases

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ZenGardner.com
Read more: EBOLA: Natural, Psy-Op or Another 9/11?

http://www.zengardner.com/ebola-natural-psy-op-another-911/

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Related articles on Davids site....

U.N. Agenda 21 Testing Ground: Malaysia’s 10 Ideas For Sustainable Development
Friday 19th September 2014 at 08:01 By david-icke

‘The full implementation of Agenda 21 is nearing completion as the global
Sustainable Development Goals of the United Nations are set on a 2015 timeline.
There are already many hints available at the wide-scale transformation set to take
place, as multiple locations in the United States continue doing battle with the
arrival of sweeping bureaucratic code enforcement.

Agenda 21 is a U.N.-directed action plan that has so many tentacles, it is often
difficult to see this creature in its entirety. Essentially, using the threat of climate
change and overpopulation as core global concerns, a mountain of new regulations
forcing local communities to adopt global directives will usher in global governance
literally from the ground up.



http://www.activistpost.com/2014/09/un-agenda-21-testing-ground-malaysias.html

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The Rich Are Eating Richer, the Poor Are Eating Poorer

Thursday 18th September 2014 at 09:10 By david-icke

http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/empty-bowl-master.gif

‘Over the past decade, the number of farmers markets nationwide has
approximately doubled, and the community-supported agriculture model of
farming, where people buy shares in the harvest of a nearby farms, has probably
grown even faster. Has this explosion of local produce consumption improved
Americans’ diets? A couple of new studies paint a disturbing picture.’

Read more: The Rich Are Eating Richer, the Poor Are Eating Poorer

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2014/09/food-inequality

[Cidersomerset]

We should be cheering this news, but why does it feel hollow ??

Because sadly we have lost trust in our governments !!
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Obama: Ebola Outbreak ‘Spiraling out of Control’

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Published on 16 Sep 2014


President Obama embarked on a two-day U.S. road trip to assess and amplify his
government's response to two unconnected overseas emergencies -- the Ebola
outbreak in Africa and Islamic terror threat in Iraq and Syria.

Today, Obama announced significant new U.S. efforts to combat the Ebola epidemic,
which has moved quickly across the western part of Africa, sending governments
scrambling to respond. The plan announced at the Atlanta headquarters of the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention includes new military assistance to the region and
an increase in trained medical professionals sent to help.


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Obama’s Ebola military operation raises concern in Africa

Friday 19th September 2014 at 08:44 By david-icke

Short vid on link....
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/09/17/379037/us-troops-for-ebola-virus-spark-reaction/


‘The decision by US President Barack Obama to dispatch 3,000 troops
to West Africa to fight the Ebola epidemic has sparked reactions in Liberia.

“We don’t need guns to protect us for now. What we need now is drugs.
We need vaccine to curtail the spread of this virus. So it is unfortunate to
hear that America is sending over 3,000 troops,” one Liberian citizen said.

“If it is an armed troop then I will start to question myself whether this
virus can be fought by guns or so,” said another Liberian.

On Tuesday, Obama described the Ebola epidemic in West Africa as a
threat to the entire world.’

Read more: Obama’s Ebola military operation raises concern in Africa

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/09/17/379037/us-troops-for-ebola-virus-spark-reaction/

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Medical martial law declared in Sierra Leone; Ebola victims hunted like
fugitives in house-to-house searches

Friday 19th September 2014 at 08:41 By david-icke


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http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Medical-Martial-Law-Sierra-Leone.jpg


‘Medical martial law has now been declared in Sierra Leone while the
government conducts a house-to-house hunt for Ebola victims who
are being treated like “medical fugitives.”

“Sierra Leone ordered its 6 million people confined to their homes for
three days starting Friday,” declared the Associated Press today.

The outlandish cover story for this medical quarantine operation that
will invade the homes of private citizens in an Ebola victim fugitive
hunt is that volunteers will be handing out bars of soap. As the AP reports:’

Read more: Medical martial law declared in Sierra Leone; Ebola
victims hunted like fugitives in house-to-house searches

http://www.naturalnews.com/046945_medical_martial_law_Sierra_Leone_Ebola_pandemic.html

[Cidersomerset]

The Ebola Epidemic Silver-Lining: IMF Bailouts For Everyone

Wednesday 17th September 2014 at 12:19 By david-icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/imf-sap-africa.jpg


‘Never waste a good crisis. While we already knew a major reason for The West chasing
into Africa was to leverage its relatively low credit levels as the last bastion of
Keynesian-stimulus-hope in the world (estimated at between $5 and $10 trillion in secured
debt, using its extensive untapped resources as first-lien collateral).

And so it is little surprise that, as The WSJ reports, The International Monetary Fund on
Thursday warned the West African Ebola epidemic requires a “large scale” global
intervention to control a crisis that is ravaging economies in the region.

All three major Ebola-suffering countries were already in bailout programs ($200mm loan
in 2012 for Guinea, $100mm loan for Sierra Leone, and $80mm credit facility for Liberia)
but with the “world community taking forever to respond,” The IMF is happy to step in
and secure some assets / lend over $100mm more to each nation to fill financing gaps.’

As The Wall Street Journal reports,

The International Monetary Fund on Thursday warned the West African Ebola epidemic
requires a "large scale" global intervention to control a crisis that is ravaging economies in the region.

The IMF, the world's emergency lender, said it is in talks to boost bailouts for Sierra Leone,
Guinea and Liberia as the disaster slams economic output and overwhelms government financing.


"Beyond the human toll that this outbreak is exacting, the Ebola outbreak looks set to cause
significant harm to the economies of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone," IMF spokesman
William Murray said in a news conference Thursday.

Of course, we noted previously the economic collapse this epidemic was having


This year was supposed to be a bright one for the three deeply poor governments bearing the
brunt of West Africa's Ebola problem. After 50 unbroken years of dictatorial misrule,
Guinea—a democracy since 2010—had planned to auction off a multibillion iron-ore concession.
Liberia, scene of a horrific 14-year-long civil war, had begun auctioning off offshore oil blocks.
Sierra Leone was set to be Africa's fastest-growing economy for the second time in three years,
the IMF had projected.

But now the fund estimates the epidemic will cut growth in Sierra Leone to 8% this year from
a previous rate of 11.3%. Liberia's growth will more than halve to 2.5%. Guinea will see its
prospects fall to 2.4% from a previously expected rate of 3.5%, the fund said.

So The IMF will lend them even more money, putting them in even more debt...

All three countries were already in bailout programs. The IMF approved a $200 million loan in
2012 for Guinea, a $100 million loan for Sierra Leone late last year and signed an $80 million
credit facility for Liberia two years ago.

The World Bank has also boosted its financing to the region, mobilizing a $230 million package
for the three worst-hit countries, including $105 million in emergency grants.

Each of the three countries faces a financing gap of between $100 million and $130 million due
to the havoc hitting agriculture, trade and other commerce, the fund said.

* * *
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/10/Africa%20in%20geographical%20perspective_0.jpg

Finally, as we noted before, this move by The IMF appears to be exactly what they hoped for...


While those in the power and money echelons of the "developed" world scramble day after day to
hold the pieces of the collapsing tower of cards in place (and manipulating public perception that
all is well), knowing full well what the final outcome eventually will be, those who still have the
capacity to look, and invest, in the future, are looking neither toward the US, nor Asia, and certainly
not Europe, for one simple reason: there is no more incremental debt capacity at any level: sovereign,
household, financial or corporate. Because without the ability to create debt out of thin air, be it on a
secured or unsecured basis, the ability to "create" growth, at least in the current Keynesian paradigm,
goes away with it.



Yet there is one place where there is untapped credit creation potential, if not on an unsecured
(i.e., future cash flow discounting), then certainly on a secured (hard asset collateral) basis.
The place is Africa, and according to some estimates the continent, Africa can create between $5
and $10 trillion in secured debt, using its extensive untapped resources as first-lien collateral.




Read more: The Ebola Epidemic Silver-Lining: IMF Bailouts For Everyone

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-15/ebola-epidemic-silver-lining-imf-bailouts-everyone

[Bob]

Guinea is saying SCREW YOU ALL then..

Since the savages insist on murdering aid workers, the government is saying, that's it guys, you are on your own..

"Friday, the Guinean government said it was stopping Ebola education activities in the country’s southeast after eight missing health workers and journalists were murdered there this week. Their bodies were found in a septic tank in a primary school in a nearby village on Thursday, reportedly killed by villagers fearful of the disease and suspicious of official efforts to combat it. Two other workers remain missing."

WHO on the other hand says they will keep trying to reach the savages.

“We need to continue to combat against Ebola. We need to investigate about these murders, but they should not stop us. We should continue the dialogue with the community. We should continue to explain our work," WHO Technical Officer and Ebola specialist, Pierre Formenty, told VOA.

(Source (http://www.voanews.com/content/sierra-leone-ebola-lockdown/2455178.html))

It appears those savages have about as much brains as the Boko Haram in upper Nigeria..

[Bob]

Death toll (officially) at 2630

(Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/18/us-health-ebola-toll-idUSKBN0HD1IJ20140918))

At least 2,630 people have died in the worst outbreak of Ebola virus in history, which has so far infected at least 5,357 people in West Africa, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Thursday. The numbers are reported as being about 1/2 of what is actually happening, under-reported for various reasons.

In a separate Ebola outbreak (the modified hybrid strain) in the Democratic Republic of Congo, 40 deaths had been reported out of 71 cases by Sept. 15, the WHO said.

Meanwhile the UN Security Council has unanimously voted (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/world/security-council-unanimously-passes-ebola-resolution.html?_r=0)

"United Nations Security Council, in a highly unusual move, on Thursday declared the Ebola crisis in West Africa to be a threat to international peace and security, unanimously passing a resolution that calls on countries worldwide to urgently send medical personnel and supplies to contain the outbreak.

“It’s a call to action not just from the Security Council but from the whole United Nations family,” said Ambassador Samantha Power of the United States, which drafted the resolution.

"In addition, the United Nations secretary-general, Ban Ki-moon, announced a plan to set up an emergency mission to tackle the swiftly spreading disease that has already ravaged the nations of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea and spread panic and fear. “The gravity and scale of the situation now require a level of international action unprecedented for a health emergency,” Mr. Ban said.

"The 15-0 vote approving the resolution came as the Obama administration pledged medicine, equipment and 3,000 military personnel to help the countries of the region. The resolution was co-sponsored by 131 countries, Ms. Power said, the most co-sponsors of any Council resolution ever."

[Sidney]

Isn't this a convenient long term side effect, for long term birth control. Interesti.g coincidence, me thinks.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/08/140818113217.htm

[Bob]

Among the dead in Guinea, the doctors murdered by the "good nurtured" savages included:

Dr. Ibrahima Fernandez, prefectural Health Director N'Zérékoré
Dr. Aliou Barry, Deputy Director of the hospital N'Zérékoré

These two people were key in helping to stop the spread in the region.

(Source (http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2014/09/ebola-in-guinea-some-of-the-victims-of-the-wome-massacre.html))

In total nine members of the delegation anti-Ebola (effort) were murdered in cold blood by the inhabitants of the sub-prefecture of Wome', capital N'Zérékoré. According to information from the city, the search continues to find possible dead. The number appears to be increasing as further reports come in.

[Bob]

Why Guinea as the source of the OUTBREAK and the location where the 'embers' continue to come-forth?

Why Guinea as the location of savages killing health care workers in the location where the source of the outbreak continues to fester, and re-generate?

Let's look at this map of the primary export of Guinea - ALUMINUM ORE..

Who is buying that ore?


http://www.dw.de/image/0,,16532341_403,00.jpg

hmmm, Russia, the bioweapons manufacturer who swears to God it is not making nor distributing bioweapons to anyone, nor conducting experiments on Africans (to gain an economic advantage - those with the cure would gain favor in the eyes of the savages)..

Who actually "owns" Guinea's bauxite (aluminum ore) ?

http://www.dw.de/who-owns-guineas-bauxite/a-16419462

No other country has as much bauxite as Guinea-Conakry. The government is planning a new law to secure 30 percent of shares in the mines, against the wishes of foreign investors.

Would Foreign Investors be pissed at loosing so much of such a strategically important metal as ALUMINUM?

What do you think?

Would they be capable of trying to coerce Guinea into "complying" with their wishes - who again is the biggest BUYER from GUINEA? Oh that's right it's RUSSIA.. hmmm...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Hi Bob! :) Hope you're well (I am gettin worried about this ebola!)

I found something a bit odd while doing some Googling today and thought you all might like to see:

i was googling something like "can ebola be carried by aquatic species" and "is an aquatic species ebola natural host"

http://web.fisheries.org/proofs/fof/faisal.pdf


The aquatic biosphere, water, covers more than two-thirds of earth.
While aquatic animal health is heavily influenced by the water quality, it also dictates how healthy aquatic
ecosystems are and, in turn, how healthy terrestrial ecosystems are and the terrestrial species
depending on them.

Three Sides of the Same Coin: Aquatic Animals–One
Health–Ecosystem Health

Mohammed
Faisal
*
Departments of Pathobiology and Diagnostic Investigation and Fisheries and Wildlife
Colleges of Veterinary Medicine and Agriculture and Natural Resources
Michigan State University, 784 Wilson Road, East Lansing, Michigan 48824, USA


For example, with the advances of diagnostic assays, scientists reported
that aquatic animals can transmit human and animal pathogens such as avian flu transmitted
by shrimps and the Ebola virus transmitted by cichlids to humans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cichlid

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Freshwater_angelfish_biodome.jpg/240px-Freshwater_angelfish_biodome.jpg

Also

Ebola river crab eating macaque (lives on aquatic species!!)

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/GTY_ebola_3_kab_140728_16x9_992.jpg


also in the above excerpt Spanish Flu is attributed to having been spread by an aquatic bird...


so if this is true in the least,

A.) water and what lives there carries a LOT more disease than humans believe and it's a natural danger,

or B.) the above is true and ALSO gov't/organizations can just infect the equivalent of a fishery, let these contaminated animals into the wild just like the Oxitec/Gates mosquitoes, and BOOM = biowarfare.

option B.) can be blamed on Mother Nature btw

[Bob]

Hepatitis for instance in clams, muscles is an occurrence. See: http://www.virology.ws/2011/07/06/happy-as-a-clam-maybe-not/


http://cc.amazingcounters.com/counter.php?i=3190880&c=9572953

"As bivalve shellfish are excellent bio-accumulators of contaminants and chemicals, it is no surprise that they also harbor waterborne viruses such as hepatitis A."

I find it amusing the amount of folks who eat raw clams, muscles, and oysters taking the risk, when they tell me try it I'll love it.. No thanks ..

Updating with another LINK to a PDF - http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/nwrc/publications/12pubs/huyvaert%20121.pdf

"Freshwater Clams As Bioconcentrators of Avian Influenza Virus in Water"

The bivalves concentrate viruses which do exist in the water..

[Bob]

Australia continues to be extremely cautious


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/09/21/1227065/518950-beda8b00-412c-11e4-b1b2-871c50b86f82.jpg

A one year old child who arrived from a Country having outbreaks of the Ebola Virus was ill and subsequently tested for the virus. The one-year-old was taken to the RCH on Friday by ambulance paramedics in protective suits and transferred to an isolation room because of fears of a spread of the killer disease.

The tests came back negative, but never-the-less, the precautions were followed.. Above is a picture of Clinical nurse specialist Theresa Vassiliou suited up in an isolation room at the Royal Melbourne Hospital's infection control centre.

ALSO

A 27-year-old man sparked an Ebola scare on the Gold Coast after he arrived back in Australia from the Congo this month.

(Source (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/oneyearold-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-royal-childrens-hospital/story-fni0fit3-1227065522976?nk=6d4a43b09392434fc60fc2df0413e4dd))

[Bob]

Another Spanish Priest to be repatriated (brought home) to Spain infected with the Ebola Virus

MADRID (Reuters) - Spain on Sunday sent a military plane to Sierra Leone to repatriate a Spanish Catholic priest working in the African country who has tested positive for the Ebola virus, the government said.

Spain's health ministry said in a statement that Manuel Garcia Viejo, a member of the Hospital Order of San Juan de Dios, worked in the Western city of Lunsar.

He is the second Spanish priest to be diagnosed with Ebola after Miguel Pajares, also a member of San Juan de Dios, who died last month (having received the treatment which worked for others) after being brought back to Spain from Liberia.

(Source (http://www.newsweek.com/spain-repatriate-priest-diagnosed-ebola-sierra-leone-272058))

Once in Madrid, Garcia Viejo will be taken to the Carlos III hospital, where Pajares was treated, the health ministry said.

The Health Ministry said Pajares had been treated with the experimental drug ZMapp, manufactured by U.S. company Mapp Biopharmaceutical.

[Cidersomerset]

Is the U.S. Military Manufacturing Ebola Vaccines to Be Tested on its Soldiers
to ‘Advance US Ability to Wage War’?

Sunday 21st September 2014 at 09:27 By david-icke


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‘At the beginning of August 2014 Bloomberg published an article about
the “promising hopes” tobacco plants offer “for developing an effective treatment
for the deadly Ebola virus”:

Tobacco plant-derived medicines, which are also being developed by a company
whose investors include Philip Morris International Inc., are part of a handful of
cutting edge plant-based treatments that are in the works for everything from
pandemic flu to rabies using plants such as lettuce, carrots and even duckweed…

Another tobacco giant-backed company working on biotech drugs grown in tobacco
plants is Medicago Inc. in Quebec City, which is owned by Mitsubishi Tanabe
Pharma Corp. and Philip Morris.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-u-s-military-manufacturing-ebola-vaccines-to-be-tested-on-its-soldiers-to-advance-us-ability-to-wage-war/5402847

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Operational Details of Ebola Quarantine Zones & Martial Law Enforcement

Sunday 21st September 2014 at 09:26 By david-icke


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Operational Details of Ebola Quarantine Zones & Martial Law Enforcement

Sep, 2014
by Dave Hodges

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‘If one thinks that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the National Institute of
Health (NIH) are merely tax-supported guardians at the gate protecting the public’s
health and welfare, then one is seriously deluded and naive. These two rogue organizations
are proving to be as greedy, cunning and evil as Goldman Sachs and they, as well as
Bill Gates, are preparing to usher in an Ebola pandemic accompanied by mandatory
vaccinations and quarantines enforced through the use of lethal force.’

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/09/18/operational-details-of-ebola-quarantine-zones-martial-law-enforcement/

[Bob]

Apparently the vaccines, AND treatment cures were developed as early as 2012 (USAMRIID).. and what, suppressed? Some of the data located showed that there were licensing squabbles with the inventors of the treatments.. but the basic information was the development was done jointly with government FUNDING, meaning they are active stakeholders as to say how and where the products are dispensed...

[Lone Bean]

How do they deal with any head itches while wearing those bio-protective suits?? It makes me get raving ear itches just looking at them.

[Bob]

How do they deal with any head itches while wearing those bio-protective suits?? It makes me get raving ear itches just looking at them.

Apparently it's like what astronauts do and what hard hat divers do. (ref: http://mentalfloss.com/article/52987/how-do-astronauts-scratch-their-noses-space-walks - space walkers can use the microphone in their helmet as an improvised scratching post. Corticosteroids are sometimes used prophylactically.)

Opening the suit in a Class IV environment is hazardous, as is getting external potentially bioform laden liquid on the skin, the eyes, mouth..

I suppose we will see what the US military troops are going to use in protective gear, if it will be any different than what the doctors wore when they got infected. I 'think' if we see full air filtering 'hepa filtration' as is done with Class IV isolation facilities, they would then not be taking any chances, feeling potentially then it has the capacity to spread by airborne droplets.


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A bit of a reference here (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/21/ebola-makes-you-a-risk-to-yourself-sierra-leone) about NOT touching (not scratching for instance)

"I was at the Médecins Sans Frontières treatment centre with my sister Katie, a documentary film-maker who was accompanying me, when I reached out to tuck a wisp of her hair that had come loose. The act was so natural, I didn't even think about it. Suddenly a medic yelled across the field hospital: "No touching!"

"The paranoia that seized me then didn't leave until I returned home. Unlike other hostile situations I've covered over five years in west Africa – riots, wars and natural disasters – in this case people I cared about were the enemy. Ebola makes you a risk even to yourself: touching your eyes, nose or mouth can infect you."

[Bob]

the Sierra Leone - 3 day shutdown (curfew) apparently provided useful data.

Different than the shutdown quarantine in Liberia, of "West Point", towards the water by Monrovia, in this case the shut-down curfew provided health workers an opportunity to assess by going door-to-door, just who was exhibiting Ebola symptoms.

At least 130 new infected cases were identified that way, stopping a potential spread through those checked..

(Source (http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKCN0HH1TQ20140922))

"There was massive awareness (created by the education provided) of the disease," Gaojia said, noting that authorities reached more than 80 percent of the households they had intended to target.

"Sierra Leone now needs to focus on treatment and case management and it urgently needs treatment centres in all its 14 districts as well as "foot soldiers" in clinics and hospitals, he said.

"We need clinicians, epidemiologists, lab technicians, infection-control practitioners and nurses," he said.

"The hemorrhagic fever, which has struck mainly in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, is the worst since Ebola was identified in 1976 in the forests of central Africa. At least 562 have died in Sierra Leone.

"The lock-down was intended to allow 30,000 health workers, volunteers and teachers to visit every household. Some argued it might have a negative impact on Sierra Leone's poor."

This survey was said to have reached about 1 million residents of Sierra Leone.

"Results were still outstanding on 39 suspected cases.

"About 100 dead bodies believed to be of Ebola victims, which could otherwise have been secretly buried without homes being quarantined, were retrieved and buried, officials say.

"Bodies of Ebola victims are highly contagious and their swift burial is considered key to containing the disease."

(Source (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29305591))

(Just an emotional note here, this just tears me up, PEOPLE are being called 'bodies' now, just statistics.. I was thinking about the doctor induced murder of Joan Rivers (http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/opinion/2014/09/09/geraldo-rivera-whowhat-killed-my-friend-joan-rivers/) yesterday, and the murder of my mom again by doctor stupidity.. and putting in perspective this epidemic... (sigh).. people forget PEOPLE are not statistics, looking at the issues the loved ones, the survivors have to deal with from the help or lack of it.. due to ignorance)

[Bob]

Today the statistics have been revised, both in death rate, the dead and dying, and the optimism that something can turn for the better..

multiple sources

Nigeria says its "free of Ebola" (that's interesting since they had hundreds of cases being observed from Port Harcourt to Lagos) - Port Hartcourt, had been home to over 400 contacts exposed by the Doctor who died there (mentioned in an earlier post) and had been under medical surveillance. As of last night, only 25 contacts remained.

The WHO Ebola Response Team published dire predictions of the west African outbreak in the New England Journal of Medicine, overnight – including an updated 70.8% fatality rate (this is based on the current survival and deaths reported. Unknown survival and unknown deaths cannot contribute into the statistic though.. WHO and CDC have been saying potentially the rates are 2.5 times under-reported.)

NY Times reports (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/world/africa/23ebola.html?_r=0)

"Since the beginning of the outbreak more than six months ago, the Sierra Leone Health Ministry reported only 10 confirmed Ebola deaths here in Freetown, the capital of more than one million people, and its suburbs as of Sunday — a hopeful sign that this city, unlike the capital of neighboring Liberia, had been relatively spared the ravages of the outbreak. But the bodies pouring in to the graveyard tell a different story. In the last eight days alone, 110 Ebola victims have been buried at King Tom Cemetery, according to the supervisor, Abdul Rahman Parker, suggesting an outbreak that is much more deadly than either the government or international health officials have announced."

"The majority of the recent deaths recorded at the cemetery were young people — young adults, people in early middle age, or children — with very few elderly people on the list. Several of the deaths also occurred in a concentrated area, sometimes in the same house, suggesting that a virulent infection had struck."

"International health experts here had no explanation for the striking discrepancy between the government’s tally of the dead in the capital and the cemetery crew’s statistics. Several of them noted the general confusion surrounding official statistics here from the beginning, with one leading international health official saying: “We don’t know exactly what is going on.”

"But nobody disputed that things appear to be getting worse. (in Sierra Leone)"


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(map does not reflect the "contained" case in Senegal, nor DR Congo)

Nebraska reveals the treatment on Dr. Scara (Dr. Brantly's colleague)

Dr. Rick Sacra, who arrived at the Nebraska Medical Center's biocontainment unit in early September, is using a drug called TKM-Ebola.

The treatment began as soon as Sacra arrived, with the Boston-area doctor getting seven straight days of the drug.

NMC doctors caution against thinking TKM-Ebola is a magic bullet.

“We don’t know if it was Dr. Sacra’s own immune system, the supportive therapy we provided, the blood transfusion from Dr. Brantly, TKM-Ebola or a combination off all these factors that helped Dr. Sacra recover. What’s important is that we pool all of our treatment resources and continue to study what is most effective in treating the virus.”

TKM-Ebola is manufactured by a Canadian pharmaceutical company based in British Columbia.

Australia - Perth
A woman who was admitted to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital in Perth suffering 'ebola-like' symptoms has been cleared of the deadly disease.

Switzerland
GENEVA (TheBlaze/AP) - A Swiss (male) nurse has joined the ranks of health workers evacuated from West Africa as a precaution for possible Ebola virus disease infection. The means by which this man came in contact with the bodily fluids of an infected child who bit him.


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This gets interesting...

Experts advise against Ebola travel ban

Advisers to the UN World Health Organisation says there should be no general ban in travel or trade. (Source (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/09/who-experts-advise-against-ebola-travel-ban-2014922124431454461.html))

This is RIGHT on the heels of statements as this:

(Source (http://time.com/3420281/who-ebola-west-africa-epidemic/)) - 20,000 cases by this November predicted if nothing changes..

"Public-health experts warn that the epidemic could turn from “a disaster into a catastrophe”"

In the stiff upper lip view of "DON'T PANIC", (hmm... )

(Source (http://www.vox.com/2014/9/23/6832023/ebola-virus-global-health-panic))

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, meanwhile, projects 1.4 million people could be infected by January, assuming that Ebola cases continue to increase exponentially and are under-reported by a factor of 2.5."

Statistically,

Low end mortality rate of (70.8%) times 1.4 million equals 991,200 people dead.

If we compute on the high end, 2.5 times 1.4 million times 70.8% shows 2,478,000 dead.


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Is there reason for hope?

"Right now, there's some reason for hope. Most of the projections about cases escalating to the hundreds of thousands are based on all the interventions we have put in place failing. As the CDC's director Tom Freiden said, this is a "fluid and dynamic situation. What the modelling shows us is even in dire scenarios, if we move fast enough we can turn it around."

"Hopefully, the unprecedented response by the global community — the UN resolution, the personnel the US, Cuba, England and other countries are sending over — will get there fast enough in a coordinated response that can make a difference. As Frieden said, "The surge now can break the back of the epidemic. But delay is extremely costly in terms of lives and effort."

"It appears Senegal and Nigeria battled back the virus through contact tracing and isolating cases. Though they only had a few cases and deaths each — tiny outbreaks compared to the scale in the other affected countries — they show that with the world on alert, when the disease turns up elsewhere, health officials can still mount successful responses. The worst-case scenario is, in other words, avoidable."

It seems though if the borders are left open, if the hospitals are not built, if the staff does not take proper precautions for the staff AND stay working, not quitting (as some have recently under the stress), if the world fails to continue to send supplies and help build facilities... the scenario could go to the negative extremes..

This is a delicate situation, the biggest being the "denial" that the infection exists, and how rapidly and easily one can become infected..

[Bob]

FDA says THAT'S IT on 3 companies claiming EBOLA CURES or treatments.. and issues letters saying comply or else..

SEE - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73942-Potential-of-silver-to-treat-Ebola&p=880960&viewfull=1#post880960

THIS THREAD "Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?" here is NOT to be used for promoting or arguing for silver, nanosilver treatments - the thread above listed has a discussion about silver/nanosilver..

[Bob]

Dr Rick Scara, infected with Ebola, having entered the Nebraska Hospital iso unit 3 weeks ago, has now been released, "cured". What organ damage (if any) would need to be monitored if damage had happened. A damaged liver, heart, lungs, kidneys, and so forth need time to heal, and/or regenerate, so not having signs of the virus being "active" is just that, the virus itself has now been recognized by the body, and sufficient mechanisms exist now to have the immune system constantly target and not be overwhelmed by this particular strain of Ebola-Zaire.

(Source (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/health/ebola-american-patient/))

"Sacra and Brantly were both infected with Ebola while working in Liberia with the aid organization Serving in Mission. Sacra was treating patients in an obstetrics clinic in Monrovia, and was not working directly with Ebola patients. He said he does not know how he became infected with the virus, but that it's possible one of the women he helped had the disease."

"Brantly, who tested negative for the deadly virus after several weeks of treatment in Atlanta, flew to Nebraska where Sacra was in isolation and donated his blood.
Doctors believe Brantly had antibodies that Sacra needed to help his immune system fight the deadly virus.

"In addition to the blood transfusion, doctors gave Sacra aggressive supportive care, including electrolytes and IV fluids.

"The Nebraska doctors also gave Sacra an experimental drug called TKM-Ebola, which the FDA recently approved for wider use.

"The American patients at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta -- Brantly and Nancy Writebol -- were given a different experimental drug called ZMapp, which was developed by the biotech firm Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc."

The concept of BLOOD DONATION from survivors to new patients seems to be the current trend and thought process in West Africa, while they await for any solutions from vaccines or monoclonal antibody treatments. All of that is "experimental" and not "approved registered therapy".

[Bob]

DR Congo outbreak possibly contained

(Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/22/us-health-ebola-congodemocratic-idUSKCN0HH2KA20140922)) Reuters updates

The Prime Minister of DR Congo, reports that there have been no new cases being reported in the last 10 days. Optimistically, Prime Minister Augustin Matata Ponyo feels containment/isolating patients has worked.

DR Congo has recorded 41 deaths from its outbreak. Congo had recorded 68 cases in Equateur province since August. Four previously suspected cases had tested negative, but one new case was added.

This strain is different from the Ebola-Zaire strain that is infecting people in West Africa (Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Liberia).

[Flash]

All i can tell is that the awareness of the "commoner (lol)" about ebola has reach the streets in Montreal. Staff were i work were discussing it yesterday.

Well, for the h1n1 virus only 50 percent of the population got vaccinated the balance not believing that it eas such a big treat. At a minimum it means people are reading and trying to discern the truth

[Bob]

Sierra Leone goes full country-wide lockdown, with a quarantine which will allow for set hours during the daylight, outside the curfew times - only through accepted corridors (allowing for essential food acquisition)..

(Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/world/africa/ebola-epidemic-sierra-leone-quarantine.html?_r=0))

FREETOWN, Sierra Leone — Acknowledging that the Ebola epidemic sweeping Sierra Leone was worsening, officials here put hundreds of thousands more citizens under quarantine on Thursday, sealing off more than a quarter of the country and warning travelers not to get out of their vehicles in the districts under isolation.

Nearly all of the country’s 14 districts are now under either total or partial quarantine, with over one million people affected, as the disease advances into new areas. Infection rates have been rising in the capital, Freetown, a dangerous development because of the city’s density.

In an address to citizens late Wednesday night, President Ernest Bai Koroma acknowledged that the new quarantine orders would “definitely pose great difficulties for our people,” but he suggested that officials had little choice.

In what appeared to be an acknowledgment that official statistics had so far been misleading, the government said the country’s plight was “worse than what was being reflected in reports,” adding that there was a “desperate need to step up our response.”

The government set up official corridors for traveling through quarantined areas, and movement through them is now restricted to the hours between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Passengers were told not to leave their vehicles while passing through quarantined zones. And in individual infected chiefdoms — traditional administrative units — within the newly quarantined districts, Mr. Koroma took the extraordinary step of warning citizens not to “travel to any other chiefdom until further notice.”

[Bob]

Venezuela - Hemorrhagic fever claims 10 people.

With all the talk of Ebola in Western Africa, sometimes other hemorrhagic fevers are not payed adequate attention..

(Source (http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2014/09/venezuela-ten-dead-of-hemorrhagic-fever-syndrome.html))

El Universal in Caracas: Autopsy reveals multiple complications in victims of fever syndrome.

Aragua state, central north Venezuela, where nine people have died in the last few days reportedly from a hemorrhagic fever syndrome. Another person died in Caracas on Sunday from the same condition.

To date, doctors do not know whether the disease is caused by a virus or bacteria. This will be determined by the test results of the samples sent last week to the National Institute of Hygiene (INH) in Caracas, the only place in Venezuela that has the adequate reagents.

"Three to five days are enough for running the tests, but they (health authorities) have not said anything. This is an emergency, we do not know what we are facing and we need to know the causes in order to provide appropriate treatment to prevent the collapse of the patient's organs, and also to set up epidemiological surveillance.

This is a very aggressive disease that causes deterioration of patients within 72 hours and causes death," said a doctor who attended a meeting convened on Tuesday night at the headquarters of the Medical Association of Aragua state.

This is a very aggressive strain.

The autopsy report shows hepatomegaly, strong steatosis, congestive spleen, pale kidneys, hemorrhagic enterocolitis, erosive pleuritis and petechiae in the upper limbs.

Representatives of the Medical Association of Aragua state remarked that all the deceased had the same symptoms (high fever, skin rashes and bleeding).

[Flash]

Well, talking of what is going around, my neighbour was back from Mexico one month ago and nearly passed away from Dengue fever caught over there. What was once a rare occurence in Mexico is now becoming more prevalent with climate change he said. He is now recuperating at home.

[Bob]

The potential "patient zero" of Senegal actually survived, and has returned home to Guinea, not having appeared to have infected anyone..

September 26, 2014 12:32 PM

CONAKRY—
The Guinean student who traveled to Senegal and became the country's lone confirmed case of Ebola has returned home fully recovered. The incident highlighted the difficulty of trying to contain the outbreak, even though Senegal had closed its borders with Guinea.

Mamadou Alimuo Diallo says he went to Senegal in August to see his uncle and to inquire about attending school there. He told VOA he did not know he was sick at the time.

He said he felt nothing until 48 hours after arrival in Dakar, when the first symptoms appeared. He began vomiting. He says when he felt worse over the course of the week, he asked his uncle to take him to the hospital and that is where they told him he had Ebola.

Diallo recalls feeling sad as he didn’t know if he would survive. But when he started feeling better after a few days - he was hopeful he’d recover.

Diallo’s ability to cross a closed border raised alarm bells. But his case appears isolated and no one else in Senegal has contracted the vicious disease, which is killing about 50 percent of those infected in this current outbreak.

(Source (http://www.voanews.com/content/guinea-student-who-brought-ebola-to-senegal-back-home/2463601.html))

Meanwhile in a strangely reported aside..

Two 'dead' people infected in Liberia, before being buried appeared to have resurrected (?) absolutely freaking out the residents. Hoax? Misdiagnosis?

(Source (http://af360.wordpress.com/tag/ma-kebeh/))


Panic in Liberian villages as two Ebola victims ‘rise from the dead’

There’s currently panic, fear and confusion in two villages in Nimba
County in Liberia after reports that two female Ebola victims have
risen from the dead.

According to local reports, 44 year old Dorris Quoi who lived in Hope
Village Community and a 67 year old woman identified as Ma Kebeh, died
of the Ebola virus and were about to be taken for burial when they
resurrected and are now walking among the living.

Ma Kebeh had been indoors for two nights without food and medication
before her death, while Dorris had suffered for several weeks before
she died alone in her family home.

This is the first report of dead
Ebola victims resurrecting.

Despite some people’s reservations about
the story being true, it hasn’t stopped them from panicking..

[Bob]

Apparently success using HIV drug to treat EBOLA - used by Doctor in Liberia

(Source (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/27/health/ebola-hiv-drug/)) A doctor in rural Liberia inundated with Ebola patients says he's had good results with a treatment he tried out of sheer desperation: an HIV drug.

Dr. Gobee Logan has given the drug, lamivudine, to 15 Ebola patients, and all but two survived. That's a 7% mortality rate.

Across West Africa, the virus has killed 70% of its victims.

That is a great result. Possibly taken early enough, the amount of organ damage would be minimal, and survival rates even higher..

Kundu and the other 12 patients who took the lamivudine and survived, received the drug in the first five days or so of their illness.

The two patients who died received it between days five and eight.

The drug is not without risks.

Dr. Logan is mindful that lamivudine can cause liver and other problems, but he says it's worth the risk since Ebola is so deadly.

CONNECTING THE DOTS

Logan said he got the idea to try lamivudine when he read in scientific journals that HIV and Ebola replicate inside the body in much the same way.

"Ebola is a brainchild of HIV," he said. "It's a destructive strain of HIV."

At first he tried an HIV drug called acyclovir, but it didn't seem to be effective.

Then he tried lamivudine on a healthcare worker who'd become ill, and within a day or two he showed signs of improvement and survived.

Lamivudine is a nucleocide analog, and other drugs in this class are being studied to treat Ebola.

NOTE of INTEREST

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases says that theoretically, Logan's approach has some merit.

Dr FAUCI has said repeatedly there are NO CURE NOR TREATMENTS approved for treating EBOLA, and has repeatedly said, that EBOLA is NOT airborne (see earlier posts in this thread discussing AIRBORNE transmission by contacting suspended droplets (aerosolized), not by contacting "AIR".

Fauci wants Dr. Logan's email address.. WHY? (suppress, purchase, make disappear, warn, etc..)

COST WISE

PENNIES compared to the monoclonal antibodies being looked at such as zMAPP..

http://www.pbs.gov.au/medicine/item/5770q-5771r-5772t-5773w-5774x-6193y-6194b-6257h-6271c-6435q

Australian - treatment cost lowest, 28 pills (100 mg size) about 212$

Seems maybe as posted in other threads, referencing treatments being cost effective, (and documenting FDA sponsored research to determine if existing REGISTERED meds, will treat/cure Ebola) that again we see something which has been IGNORED or SUPPRESSED (and may be suppressed if this is left to the way things happen in the big pharma industry)... that low cost treatment IS available.. Some are safer than others, with less liver damage..

[Bob]

This EBOLA SOLUTION basically would be available GENERICALLY - as the patent has expired (see below)

ALSO this research apparently, no one connected the dots (hmmm) at EMORY, next to the CDC, you remember, where the first US patients with Ebola were brought and given the infinitely expensive (and conveniently unavailable zMAPP monoclonal antibody drug which if the virus MUTATES would mean that the drug will no longer work cause it is tied into the exact protein found in that particular viral strain, requiring another 100M$ (US) or so for another mAB varient)...

THIS WAS READY IN 1989 to cure EBOLA, treat it effectively, and it MAY BE SUPPRESSED by those who have been trying to corner the treatment market.

Here is the data - (Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamivudine))

It's a bit technical, but it can be followed, and interpreted, if needed.

Racemic BCH-189 (the minus form is known as Lamivudine) was invented by Dr. Bernard Belleau while at work at McGill University and Dr Paul Nguyen-Ba at the Montreal-based IAF BioChem International, Inc. laboratories in 1988 and the minus enantiomer isolated in 1989.

Dr. Yung-Chi Cheng of Yale University in collaboration with R.F. Schinazi and D.C. Liotta first reported the anti-hepatitis B virus (HBV) activity of Lamivudine in cell culture which eventually led to the first oral antiviral agent for the treatment of HBV.

Subsequently the group at Emory University headed by Dr. Dennis C. Liotta Dr. Woo-Baeg Choi and Dr. Raymond F. Schinazi developed a synthesis for the BCH-189 that gave exclusively the beta-enantiomers.

They then went on to resolve the two enantiomers and demonstrated that the antiviral activity at non-toxic concentrations resided in the (-)-enantiomer, now called Lamivudine.

The Emory patents to lamivudine were later invalidated by the original inventors.

The drug's effectiveness for treating HIV in combination with AZT was discovered accidentally when a patient took Zidovudine secretly while in a clinical trial of Lamivudine monotherapy.

The drug was later licensed to the British pharmaceutical company Glaxo by Biochem Pharma (now Shire Pharmaceuticals) for a 14 percent royalty. GlaxoSmithKline subsequently ceded the product to its ViiV Healthcare joint venture in 2009.

Lamivudine was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on November 17, 1995 for use with zidovudine (AZT) and again in 2002 as a once-a-day dosed medication.

The fifth antiretroviral drug on the market, it was the last NRTI for three years while the approval process switched to protease inhibitors.

According to the manufacturer's 2004 annual report, its patent will expire in the United States in 2010 and in Europe in 2011.

Lamivudine showed no evidence of carcinogenicity or mutagenicity in in vivo studies in mice and rats at doses from 10 to 58 times those used in humans.

Lamivudine is often given in combination with zidovudine, with which it is highly synergistic.

What's an Enantiomer?

These substances are important biologically influencing substances.

The molecules would exist in two forms, basically they are molecular mirrors of each other. There is a left viewpoint substance and a right viewpoint substance.

If it is left handed the chirality is M(minus), if right handed, the chirality is P(plus).

In radio communications for instance, there is an upper sideband and a lower sideband. Combine the two and one has "double sideband" information.. Add a carrier to the sidebands, and one then can hear the speech.. BUT if the transmission lets say is the UPPER sideband, and the carrier is wrongly phased, it comes out intelligible.

There are molecules setup the same way, with information showing up right handed, or information showing up LEFT handed....but even though enantiomers have identical physical and chemical properties, the difference between two enantiomers (L or R viewpoint, similar to upper or lower sideband), can have tremendous impact, especially in biological systems, because many important biological molecules are chiral.

OK what is CHIRAL then?

Look at this image of a complex molecule, the right hand view and the left hand view - the structure orientation of how it exists in space is a reverse mirror, being able to have chirality means one can 'put the two hands together' and the two match..


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Chirality_with_hands.svg/1280px-Chirality_with_hands.svg.png

Pronunciation - "chiral" (pronounced "KYE-ral"), or L/R handed molecules. Each twin is called an enantiomer (pronounced en-ANT-ee-oh-mer).

Even though the molecular chemistry is the same with L/R handed molecules, the BIOLOGICAL FUNCTION can be radically different..

"Perhaps looking-glass milk isn’t good to drink.." said Alice, in Lewis Carolls Through the Looking Glass.

[Bob]

National Inst of Health in Baltimore to receive a possible Ebola patient

This Sunday, the Dr. should arrive in the NIH hospital.

"When someone is exposed, you want to put them into the best possible situation so if something happens you can take care of them," Dr Fauci (CDC) said.

N.I.H. says they will keep the patient in the ISOLATION unit for observation to see what type of treatment is needed should the patient develop symptoms. The doctor, who was volunteering in an Ebola treatment unit in Sierra Leone, will be admitted for observation and to enroll in a clinical study.

There have been 4 Americans infected with Ebola while volunteering in the West Africa treated at hospitals in Georgia (Emory) and Nebraska. One patient is still hospitalized. All others have recovered and have been released.

Death statistics - to date since March, officially recorded deaths as of Friday, 3,083 deaths in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.

(Multiple Sources (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nih-to-give-treatment-to-american-doctor-exposed-to-ebola/) and Source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/nih-expected-to-admit-patient-exposed-to-ebola-virus/2014/09/27/0deee7a4-4673-11e4-b437-1a7368204804_story.html))

[Bob]

Video Panel Discussion on West African spread of EBZ (Ebola - Zaire strain) of hemorrhagic fever


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I know the key speaker, Ted Alemayhu personally; he is ethical, accurate, sincere and works on the forefront to help developing countries with medical issues. Although the video is a bit old, the data IS accurate - the numbers have gone up by 1000 at least.

The infection curves are starting to go exponential, and apparently, the reason is from disinformation or superstition, and from hospitals closing, doctors saying "ENOUGH", and quit. People then put and LEFT IN FEAR from that disinformation, or superstition, or in actual cases, doctors and hospitals not able to carry out proper infection control procedures. That ends up leaving people to fend for themselves where they cannot get ANY AID from anyone.

This EBOLA-ZAIRE is real, it is spreading. It is not cured by Vitamin C, nor cured by Silver (in any form), nor cured by MMS. (No studies no data has been shown in any form that those substances can deal with this particular virus strain).

Earlier in the thread - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=882026&viewfull=1#post882026 (POST 339) Dr. Gobee Logan in LIBERIA HAS found an existing GENERIC antiviral (generic meaning out-of-patent), that is ACCEPTED by the FDA and other agencies worldwide as an ANTI-VIRAL, can actually treat and cure EBOLA-ZAIRE.

That is accurate data, not disinformation.. It shows that someone has actually taken the time, to study to find out what can help that is available and could very well have 100% cure rate started early enough before massive body organ failure happens from the viral's triggering of cytokine flooding, (read hemorrhaging and bleeding out).

I also know people personally involved in Sierra Leone, AND Nigeria who say the EBZ virus is there in West Africa, and this is serious.

[Bob]

Ebola in Dallas, Texas?

CDC says symptoms and travel are coincident with an actual case of Ebola.

Biological testing is on fast-track.


DALLAS, North Texas

(Source (http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/North-Texas-Patient-Tested-for-Possible-Ebola-277529961.html))

Symptoms are presenting. The data being presented to the pubic is not saying HOW the person got to the hospital, or exactly where in Africa the person was, but CDC and the hospital is saying there is a good "maybe" on this case.

"The hospital is following all Centers for Disease Control and Texas Department of Heath recommendations to ensure the safety of patients, hospital staff, volunteers, physicians and visitors," according to the hospital's statement."

Dallas Fort Worth news services are saying they will post updates as they are released to the Public.

Post UPDATE:

(http://www.9news.com/story/news/2014/09/29/dallas-hospital-isolates-possible-ebola-patient/16461533/ )

Location: Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas said the patient was admitted based on symptoms and "recent travel history."

"Several U.S. hospitals have previously raised alerts in connection with patients who presented Ebola-like symptoms, but all patients in those cases tested negative for the illness."

CDC points out they will know more tomorrow Tuesday about the biological testing results.

POST UPDATE:

Everyone knows about it by now, the patient has tested positive for Ebola.
(Source (http://www.vox.com/2014/9/30/6875325/ebola-virus-outbreak-case-diagnosed-us)

Functionally this isn't much different than the other cases who have been brought here deliberately, known that they had active infection.

This case though was not escorted by a medical team when they needed to get to the Hospital.

Tracking down other potential patients

Detective work is a major part of controlling a disease like Ebola. Experts will interview the patient, the patient's relatives, and other potential close contacts to monitor them and make sure that they don't spread the disease to others if they have it. Officials will then suggest various options for these people, depending on the level of risk, including watching and waiting, isolation at home, and testing for infection.

Everyone who came in contact with the Texas patient while he was infectious has been identified, including family members and "two to three" others (community members).


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The man left Liberia on September 19, according to the CDC, and arrived in the US on September 20. He had no symptoms when he was departing or entering Nigeria, which means he wouldn't have been infectious at the time.

Around September 24, he starting to develop symptoms, and around September 26, sought care. On Sunday, September 28, he was admitted to the hospital in Texas and placed in isolation. On September 30, the CDC confirmed that this person has Ebola.

They are not concerned about the people who shared this man's flight, since he was not symptomatic then and shedding the virus.

The CDC director Tom Frieden said, "There is zero risk of transmission on the flight."

Therefore the dangerous window would be about 23/24 September.. onward.

Frieden said, "I have no doubt we will stop this in its tracks in the US. I also have no doubt as long as this continues in Africa, we need to be on guard."

[Bob]

the M.A.S.H. manual for dealing with Hemorrhagic Fevers - i.e. Ebola, Marburg, etc..

Time to put this up for viewing. It's a good and VERY sobering view of what folks in Africa have to deal with in trying to create a survivable situation when trying to treat patients.

The manual is written from start to finish, and offers the health care provider a way to have a potential to maintain personal infection control, and to potentially help prevent the spread to other patients, family members, community members.


http://chanlo.com/images/african-healthcare-setting-vhf.pdf

we'll get into a few images and quotes from the manual shortly.

MASH - Mobile Army Surgical Hospital, I'm using that name so that folks can recognize what it could look like; from historical hospitals created in Korea and elsewhere during the wars. MASH was made known to the public with the movie and later television series - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066026/fullcredits/

the CDC version of these hospitals are designed to be created from scratch, 'out in the bush', or able to be converted into facilities from warehouses, or existing clinics, upgrading them to contain a rudimentary "isolation unit".

the idea of the manual is to give a 'fighting chance' for early responders, for caregivers - it is just that, a fighting chance, where it comes NO-WHERE NEAR the amount of isolation required to provide perfect safety. Looking at the statistics of staff infected and mortality before infection control isolation was put in, the death rates were high, but dropped significantly after isolation and proper safety (as best as can be had, working in the 'bush').. never-the-less caregiver deaths still occur, no doubt because of some factor, (suspect droplet contamination via aerosolized particles)..

[ThePythonicCow]

I moved five posts that were above off to a separate, split thread Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks (Split thread, on topic of 500 gms Vit C IV per day) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75520-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks--Split-thread-on-topic-of-500-gms-Vit-IV-per-day-). They were not contributing to a healthy discussion on this thread.

[Bob]

How the CDC will make sure Ebola doesn't spread in the US from the Ebola patient in Dallas

(Source (http://www.vox.com/cards/ebola-facts-you-need-to-know/how-the-cdc-will-make-sure-ebola-doesnt-spread-in-the-us))

Once an outbreak is identified and patients who are sick have been isolated, you'll hear that one of the tried-and-true methods for stopping the disease from spreading further is "contact tracing." This public-health measure works exceptionally well for small-scale outbreaks, like the one in Texas.

According to the CDC director Tom Frieden, everyone who came in contact with the Texas patient while he was infectious has been identified, including family members and two to three community members.

Identifying those who may have been exposed to the disease basically involves the work of a detective. Freiden said health officials interview the patient and then their family members. From there, officials will outline and investigate all of the patient's movements that appeared before the patient was in isolation and during the period when he could have been contagious.

They then build "concentric circles," the closest representing the people who the patient could have exposed, and a second with all the other people those initial contacts may have interacted with.

"This is core public health and it is what we do day in and day out and what we will be doing here to identify any possible spread and to ensure there aren't further chains of transmission," said Frieden.

Those at risk are watched for 21 days — the incubation period for the virus — to make sure they don't develop symptoms. If they do, they are placed in isolation and tested for the virus. If they don't, after 21 days, they are declared risk free.

[Bob]

HealthCare workers ARE dying in record numbers in AFRICA - WHY?

(Source (http://www.vox.com/cards/ebola-facts-you-need-to-know/health-care-workers-are-dying-in-record-numbers))

One disturbing feature of the current epidemic is that so many health workers have lost their lives while caring for the sick or trying to spread public-health messages about Ebola.

In total, over 200 health-care workers have died from Ebola, according to the World Health Organization. To put that into context, in the second biggest outbreak in history — in Zaire in 1976 — 11 medical personnel died. And that was the first recorded outbreak, when measures to prevent transmission of the virus weren't well established.

There are several causes for the death toll.

The first is that health workers haven't had access to the supplies they need. Since the disease is transmitted through direct exposure to bodily fluids, they are advised to wear face masks, goggles, gowns and gloves while caring for patients. But doctors and nurses in the developing-country context don't always have that protective gear.


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The above image does NOT SHOW protective safety gear needed to protect from an infection. EBOLA in the States is treated and handled in secure CLASS-IV (4) isolation units with filtered air, hepa filters, full protective suits/gloves and so forth.. In Africa (SEE THE MASH MANUAL in the post above, #344) to understand the difference, and how care givers have to "make due" with minimal support facilities and supplies..

IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS shortcoming happening in Africa, and how essential it is to get proper supplies, proper training of the staff, and proper education to community members..

[Bob]

About 100 people now being screened/checked/monitored around where the patient in Texas was located.

Source MSNBC TV (live)

Dr. Fauci reporting from CDC, they are keeping an eye on it.

Earlier it was reported ONLY some family members and probably 3 or 4 community members. Possibly that now means who are in the network of those people.
Building up that circle of circles tracing each person to each contact.

In another post we will go over: "WHAT IS CLOSE CONTACT?"

[avid]

What about the occupants of the airplane? Sorry if you've covered this, but, the ambulance, the first responders et al.....
I'm coming down with a mystery bug myself - causes respiratory distress, high temperature, bloodshot eyes - I got back to Manchester after Mum's funeral last week, on Saturday, and the traitorous OH is full of germies....
Feeling 'exhaustipated' as my ancient Dad would have said. His humour lives with me every day - thank goodness :)

[Bob]

An Agency we don't normally hear about

(Source (http://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dhcpp/mission_statement.html))


Division of High-Consequence Pathogens and Pathology (DHCPP)


This agency is now active and monitoring the situation in Dallas.

The Division of High Consequence Pathogens and Pathology (DHCPP) maximizes public health and safety nationally and internationally through the diagnosis, prevention, and control of disease, disability, and death caused by suspected and known viral, bacterial, prion, and related infections.

In carrying out its mission, DHCPP:


Conducts surveillance, investigations, and studies of viral and bacterial diseases, including bioterrorism agents, as well as of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, or prion diseases, and severe diseases of unknown, but suspected infectious, etiology to define their etiology and epidemiology, and to develop effective methods for diagnosis, treatment, control, and prevention;
Conducts or participates in clinical, field, and laboratory research to develop, evaluate, and improve laboratory methods, materials, and therapeutic practices used for diagnosis, treatment, control, and prevention of viral, bacterial, and prion diseases, including bioterrorism agents;
Conducts research on virus and bacterial transmission to develop effective control and prevention strategies and on vaccine effectiveness to assess prevention potential;
Conducts laboratory, clinical, and epidemiologic studies of highly hazardous disease agents that require biosafety level 3 or biosafety level 4 security for their safe handling;
Conducts ecological studies to develop and evaluate disease control and prevention measures;
Provides epidemic aid, epidemiologic consultation, reference and diagnostic services, and technical assistance to state and local health departments, other federal agencies, and national and international health organizations;
Provides scientific and technical assistance to other CDC components when the work requires unique expertise or specialized equipment not available in other components;
Provides routine and specialized laboratory training in the diagnosis, isolation, and characterization of viral and bacterial agents to personnel from state and local health departments and other national and international organizations;
Provides training opportunities for EIS officers and others in CDC sponsored programs, including postgraduate students, postdoctoral fellows, and other public health and laboratory scientists;
Provides expert pathological support for various infectious diseases to other groups at CDC, state and local health departments, other OID components, and national and international organizations; and
Serves as appropriately designated national and WHO Collaborating Centers for viral and bacterial diseases.



http://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dhcpp/images/dhcpp-placemat-960px.jpg


SHOULD any QUARANTINE in the US be required, there is a special division which will handle such activity:


http://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dgmq/images/org-chart_590px.png


Immigrant, Refugee and Migrant Health promotes and improves the health of immigrants, U.S.-bound refugees, and migrants through domestic and overseas programs.
Conducts global disease surveillance and response
Partners to improve refugee and migrant health
Improves the screening and treatment of disease worldwide
Communicates health information globally


Possibly the traveler from Liberia to Dallas should have been flagged by this group upon entry to the US - possibly screening is LAX - according to the "book" (see below) the traveler was not ILL during entry, but presented shortly (within a week) after entering US shores.

Quarantine and Border Health Services protects the public's health through detection of and response to communicable diseases related to travel and imported pathogens and improves the health of globally mobile populations transitioning to U.S. communities.
Responds to ill travelers who have serious diseases of public health interest
Connects newly arrived immigrants who have certain health conditions with state public health authorities
Ensures safe importation of animals and cargo
Provides public health information to travelers and travel industry

[Bob]

What about the occupants of the airplane? Sorry if you've covered this, but, the ambulance, the first responders et al.....
I'm coming down with a mystery bug myself - causes respiratory distress, high temperature, bloodshot eyes - I got back to Manchester after Mum's funeral last week, on Saturday, and the traitorous OH is full of germies....
Feeling 'exhaustipated' as my ancient Dad would have said. His humour lives with me every day - thank goodness :)

They are doing screening of people in the US, but have been saying, even though he has Ebola, he was not contagious while on the airplane, or the airport(s)..

I must admit, I question this belief system, of what is not contagious, when one has a virus that is actively multiplying in the body, and is being expelled in some manner. My radar would be on, if some other type of virus that the patient may have could be augmented or amplified or triggered to expel itself, when the Ebola is present..

Something like a dormant virus normally not presenting (Epstein Barr) for instance is then made active by Ebola being present in the system.. Epstein Barr would be quite able to be transmitted (by again contact from bodily fluids, i.e. coughing, sneezing), and even though Ebola-Zaire would not be being transmitted as the body hasn't fully saturated with a critical threshold level (creating massive flooding, called cytokine response), the virus IS THERE in that body and is growing to critical levels (critical meaning the immune system can't handle the load and is either shutting down or flooding)...

So CO-VIRUS activation could be happening.

What I find strangely oddly coincident is the sudden appearance of the D68 virus affecting kids in the US.. COULD it be due to having viral infected patients having an augmented trigger response to the Ebola in Africa? (or now the Ebola in the US?)

So that is what I meant about being alert and watchful about what is happening in Texas.. An unusual virus presenting catches my attention as I hope same with the researchers in CDC looking to connect dots that they may miss, not seeing how things work together (specifically in asymtomatic augmentation to active status of apparently dormant species...)

[Bob]

Background on the US Ebola Patient in Dallas

It started with an act of selfless compassion to try to help a sick friend where he was staying..

(Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0))

"Mr. Duncan had lived in the neighborhood, called 72nd SKD Boulevard, for the past two years, living by himself in a small room that he rented from the Williams couple. He had told that them and his neighbors that his son lived in the United States, played baseball, and was trying to get him to come to America.

"For the past year, Mr. Duncan had worked as a driver at Safeway Cargo, the Liberian customs clearance agent for FedEx, said Henry Brunson, the company’s manager.

"In an office with a large FedEx sign outside the building in downtown Monrovia, Mr. Brunson said that Mr. Duncan quit abruptly on Sept. 4, giving no reason. But Mr. Brunson said he knew that Mr. Duncan had family members in the United States as well.

“His sister came from the United States and he asked for a day off so that he could go meet her at the Mamba Point Hotel,” Mr. Brunson said, mentioning a hotel popular among foreigners.

“He quit a few weeks after that.”

"Mr. Duncan, the first person to develop symptoms outside Africa during the current epidemic, had direct contact with a woman stricken by Ebola on Sept. 15, just four days before he left Liberia for the United States, the woman’s parents and Mr. Duncan’s neighbors said.

"In a pattern often seen in Monrovia, the Liberian capital, the family of the woman, Marthalene Williams, 19, took her by taxi to a hospital with Mr. Duncan’s help on Sept. 15 after failing to get an ambulance, said her parents, Emmanuel and Amie Williams. She was convulsing but also seven months pregnant, they said.

"Turned away from a hospital for lack of space in its Ebola treatment ward, the family said it took Ms. Williams back home in the evening, and that she died hours later, around 3 a.m.

"Mr. Duncan, who was a family friend and also a tenant in a house owned by the Williams family, rode in the taxi in the front passenger seat while Ms. Williams, her father and her brother, Sonny Boy, shared the back seat, her parents said. Mr. Duncan then helped carry Ms. Williams, who was no longer able to walk, back to the family home that evening, neighbors said.

“He was holding her by the legs, the pa was holding her arms and Sonny Boy was holding her back,” said Arren Seyou, 31, who witnessed the scene and occupies the room next to Mr. Duncan’s.

"Sonny Boy, 21, also started getting sick about a week ago, his family said, around the same time that Mr. Duncan first started showing symptoms.

"In a sign of how furiously the disease can spread, an ambulance had come to their house on Wednesday to pick up Sonny Boy. Another ambulance picked up a woman and her daughter from the same area, and a team of body collectors came to retrieve the body of yet another woman — all four appeared to have been infected in a chain reaction started by Marthalene Williams.

"A few minutes after the ambulance left, the parents got a call telling them that Sonny Boy had died on the way to the hospital.

"Mr. Duncan was trying to get him to come to America."

Possibly he realized if he was going to stay overseas, his chances would be ZERO, at least in the US he could maybe have a chance..

[Bob]

The "Doctor is IN" - have you brought your offering?

multiple sources


http://www.junglepants.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Huli-Witch-Doctor-PNG-007.jpg

some have come up with methods to deal with it all..

--- in contrast, the modern "doctor" can present a similar unusual appearance to one (I remember as a child having met my first doctor)..


http://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1946112!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg

what is a person going to do, trust the "doctor" in the top image, or trust the doctor in the bottom image?

(Source (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/terrible-conditions-in-liberia-where-witchdoctors-rule-1038305))

This report below is from 2009, before the recent outbreak in West Africa - please notice what the modern "doctors" have to deal with, trying to cope, trying to educate - Education is apparently kept away from the People, so that they maintain superstition.. Remember Boko Haram's philosophy that western education is sinful.. really.. sinful, while kids die because of insufficient support in health, clean water, hygiene, even understanding about how devastating older practices can lead to a lower quality of life?


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"THE shocking death toll among innocent children in one of the most dangerous countries in Africa can be exposed today.

"Two babies are dying every hour in Liberia where one in nine children do not reach their fifth birthday.

"Meanwhile, one in 12 women does not survive childbirth.

"Charity workers desperately battling to offer pregnant women and mums proper medical advice yesterday blamed witchdoctors' mistreatment of malaria for the horrific death toll.

"Tamba Borbor, 34, who is in charge of the Suehn clinic 35 miles outside the capital Monrovia, says more than half of their 1305 consultations last month were linked to malaria.

"She said: "Many people whose children catch malaria go to a traditional healer or herbalist.

"I have heard of them telling mums whose children are convulsing with malaria they have a squirrel inside them and that the mother must have eaten a squirrel when she was pregnant.

"They treat the children with herbs, which give them liver problems.

"They will only come to us when they are close to death but, by then, it is difficult to treat them.

"It is problematic giving anti-malaria drugs to someone who is not strong."

"The Suehn clinic is supported by British charity Save the Children.

"Each morning women in brightly coloured traditional wraps queue up for treatment for themselves or their kids.

"The clinic has a catchment area of five miles and 6000 people. With no transport, women face walking for several hours to reach it.

"The centre opened in 1984 but closed during Liberia's civil war from 1989 to 2003, a conflict that left the country ravaged.

Tamba said: "The clinic was looted of everything, even the roof."

"But since it was renovated and reopened in 2005, Save the Children have helped to vaccinate children and train health workers and midwives.

"Despite the clinic's basic appearance - it only has a tiny delivery room, two examination rooms, a dispensary and a stock room - it is a lifeline to the local community.

"Mothers and children are vaccinated against diseases such as yellow fever, measles and polio.

"A certified midwife, Yomo Deline, nurse, vaccinator, dispenser, assistant, and registrar are the clinic's only staff.

"Seventy-four babies have been born there in the past year but most births take place at home because of the travelling distance to the centre.

"So babies are often delivered by untrained midwives using dangerous methods and dirty razor blades.

"Tamba said: "We encourage expectant mothers to stay with relatives who live near the clinic when they are in their final stages of pregnancy.

"But for every child born here, three are born in the community. The traditionally trained midwives will often examine women without gloves, use leaves as a lubricant and tie rope around their stomachs to induce the baby.

"Some mothers do not care well for their babies due to lack of knowledge."

"Miattah Conneh hopes that her two sons will become doctors or nurses to help tackle the infection and disease that killed five of her children.

"Miattah, who does not know what age she is, lives in a remote village in Liberia.

"Her first son Sumo, born in 1990, contracted malaria when he was six months old. Because of the raging civil war in the west African country, there were no clinics or antibiotics available.

"So Miattah turned to a traditional healer, whose "cure" was to rub boiled leaves over Sumo's body. He died just days later.

"Four of her other children have since died from malaria, including daughter Yanaeh, two, who passed away five months ago.

"Her surviving sons Zwannah, 10, and Amadu, seven, stay with her aunt in Monrovia, where they go to school. She hopes they will go on to study medicine.

"She said: "I hope they will help save children. I do not want any child to die the same way as mine."

"Liberia's civil war, led by former president Charles Taylor - who is now in the dock at a war crimes tribunal at The Hague - left the country in ruins.

"By the time it ended in 2003, 250,000 people had been killed and half of the three-million population were homeless. Two-thirds of people now live on less than 65p a day.

"Health services were destroyed and less than 10 per cent of people have access to quality healthcare.

"One of the most shocking statistics is that one in 12 women die during childbirth.

"James Howard lost his wife Massah, 27, as she was giving birth three years ago. Their son, also called James, survived.

"James Snr, 46, who lives in Cooper Town, Bomi, said: "The placenta remained in her womb and she began bleeding profusely.

"The clinic staff said she had to go to hospital but, while I was looking for transport, she died."

"Two weeks after James was born, he and elder brother Varney, then three, were taken to an orphanage. They were adopted by a US couple.

"James Snr said: "I wanted them to have a better life. But they are far away now and I cannot see them.

"All I have is photographs their adoptive parents took and sent me.

"I feel sadness that no one will be by my side when I get old. But I do not blame anyone. This is God's way."

"Despite the hardship, the Suehn clinic is trying its best to make life easier.

"Cecilia Hills, 21, walked for nearly three hours through the bush from the village of Bono to have her daughter treated there.

"Etta, two months old, had been suffering from an inflammation and was given antibiotics.

"Cecelia, who has another daughter, Tiangai, four, said: "It's tiring but it is worth covering that distance.

"My children have responded very well to the treatment they received.

"Etta was crying with the pain and it is a great relief she has now been treated."

"Slowly, clinics like the one in Suehn are making progress and helping to improve Liberia's health.

"Although one in nine children die before their fifth birthday, the figure was one in four just four years ago.

"Last year Save the Children, with funding from the UK public, government and the European Commission, provided health care and drugs to 22 such clinics in Liberia.

"There were nearly 250,000 consultations and 35,000 children were vaccinated against preventable diseases.

SUSAN IS SAVING LIVES IN LIBERIA

"AS a young overseas charity worker, Susan Grant only planned to stay in Africa for two years.

B"ut after witnessing the scale of its problems, she has spent the past 20 years on the continent.

"Susan has one of the most challenging roles in Africa as Save The Children's country director for Liberia.

"The 46-year-old, from Edinburgh, trained as a journalist after leaving school. After eight years as a reporter, she made a career change and joined the VSO (Voluntary Service Overseas) in 1989.

"Susan took up the Liberian post three years ago and now leads a staff of 120.

"Over the past four years, the number of children dying before the age of five has fallen from one in four to one in nine.

She said: "The focus is on child survival, better education and more health facilities.

"Good progress has been made but we still have a lot more to do to protect children from abuse and neglect."

It is an up-hill battle, the People stay with the old ways, and the virus doesn't care if the old ways or the new ways are practiced. Without being educated, in the spread, the damage, the practices used, people continue to become infected, and continue to infect others.

It is more than just throwing money at this situation, it is about somehow reaching the "tribal doctors", the tribal leaders and communities, to stop cooking the missionaries figuratively, and possibly start to say OK, show us what we are missing... Help us understand.. PLEASE help us understand..

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Bob well done for keeping this thread up to date , a couple of items I noticed
you may have reference to them.....


CDC warns domestic airlines to treat all bodily fluids as Ebola-contaminated

Wednesday 1st October 2014 at 07:45 By david-icke


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‘With the official death count from Ebola now nearing 3,000, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC) is urging all airlines, both foreign and domestic, to keep a close eye on passengers who might be ill with the
disease. The agency says that all bodily fluids should now be assumed to contain the Ebola virus, and be treated
as such during routine cleanings.

Issued on September 19, the new CDC guidelines warn that airlines can deny travel to anyone suspected of having
“serious contagious diseases that could spread during flight.” This applies to all flights, including those flying just
within the States. Cabin crews are being advised to take possible infections seriously, and to always use personal
protective equipment during flights.’

Read more: CDC warns domestic airlines to treat all bodily fluids as Ebola-contaminated

[url]http://www.naturalnews.com/047081_Ebola_airlines_CDC.html[/url

[Cidersomerset]

I just saw this on Davids Ickes site as I'm going thru it and updating threads , a bit alarmist ?

Ebola In America: The Confirmed Case In Dallas, Texas Could Change Everything

Wednesday 1st October 2014 at 11:23 By david-icke


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‘The day that many of us hoped would never arrive is here. Ebola has come to America.
Air travel between the United States and the countries of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone
should have been totally shut down except for absolutely essential personnel but it wasn’t.
And now our nation may end up paying a great price as a result. On Tuesday, the CDC
announced that there is a confirmed case of Ebola in Dallas, Texas.

We know that this individual is a male and that he traveled by air from Liberia to Texas on
September 19th. At that time, he was not exhibiting any symptoms. It is being reported
that he started developing symptoms on September 24th and that he sought out treatment
two days later. Incredibly, he was turned away and sent home. Then on September 28th
he went to a hospital again and this time he was admitted for treatment.

That means that he could have potentially been spreading Ebola to others for at least four
full days before finally getting treated at a hospital. Now he is in intensive care at Texas
Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. The CDC says that “there is no doubt that we will
stop it here” and is promising that “it will not spread widely in this country”. The CDC
better be right on both counts.

Read more: Ebola In America: The Confirmed Case In Dallas, Texas Could Change Everything

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/ebola-in-america-the-confirmed-case-in-dallas-texas-could-change-everything

[Roisin]

Ok, so he had symptoms then went to a hospital ER where he was turned away where a couple of days later he goes back to the ER. My, oh my, the ER staff must be going crazy after finding that the patient tested positive for the Ebola virus.

So my question is, why aren't they quarantining the hospital staff and those patients who were present in ER and its waiting room during the time that Ebola patient visited that dept.?

And what about the passengers in the plane that he flew in to the US? Have they at least been notified that someone who turned out to have Ebola was on their flight too?

So many questions and no answers.

[Bob]

Ok, so he had symptoms then went to a hospital ER where he was turned away where a couple of days later he goes back to the ER. My, oh my, the ER staff must be going crazy after finding that the patient tested positive for the Ebola virus.

So my question is, why aren't they quarantining the hospital staff and those patients who were present in ER and its waiting room during the time that Ebola patient visited that dept.?

And what about the passengers in the plane that he flew in to the US? Have they at least been notified that someone who turned out to have Ebola was on their flight too?

So many questions and no answers.

Yup. Exactly.
It seems to me, if the particular mutation Mr. Duncan has (which killed the family members in Liberia prior to him coming to the US, which it is believed that he definitely DID know, not only was he exposed, those people died, rather rapidly after exposure), was the incubation time about 5 days, and the time to rapidly going downhill.. different than the average progression..

They keep saying, their tests won't show a transmittable infection, even though the virus may be inside, and multiplying, the quantity of multiplication may not be adequate enough to pose a risk statistically.. That's how they view it.. Its somewhat odd that particular level of doublespeak.. IF all it takes is 2-10 viral particles to create an active infection, well those particles are there? How many particles are present in the saliva for instance, or sweat, or vomit in Mr. Duncan's case to constitute more than 2-10 viral particles? A trillion? a Million? they are not saying why they believe their logic is sound. If the infection is there the infection is there and the virus is shown to survive outside of the body, on surfaces..

I have looked at the CDC press kit, the official spin, er, hmm... the way to address, "nothing to see here, move along", while they are freaking out internally how to remain professional and not get people worried, that they really don't know what a class IV bioweapons grade virus will do in US for instance.. They have a pretty good idea now what it is doing to the West Africans, the Nigerians, and have historical data on DR Conglese... As Sudan, and Uganda.. They have data on Marburg from Europe (Germany)..

No answers is the issue, and MSM is paying attention to that, and pointing that out, and when they do, the "officials" bring out the play book, and read the press kit.. MSM is using some paid consultants who apparently ARE also reading from the press kit.. but now and then you can see actual sensible MSM consultants, going, this doesn't make any sense, why the lapse in procedure.. as far as doing an immediate isolation, especially since the hospitals have trained for something like this..

I absolutely know from personal experience having been in the "system" in EMT work in the 70's what and how they scorn any "patient" saying DOC this is what is happening to me.. I found that same attitude in 2011, 2005... it only getting worse the belligerence to the "medical elite" to ANY patient saying they have an inkling of what is bothering them..

That has to change, but I don't think it will.. When the particular insurance plans came into play, all medicine went downhill.. let's not get into obamacare in this thread tho..

[Bob]

Hawaii now concerned about a possible Ebola case

(Source (http://khon2.com/2014/10/01/patient-in-isolation-in-honolulu-hospital-officials-say-ebola-a-possibility/))

“Should the public concerned?” KHON2 asked.

“No, absolutely not. Like I said, this is a possible case we’re investigating. We don’t know if this is Ebola or a number of other conditions,” she said.

Health officials say it’s too early to say if the person will be tested.

There are 1,400 nurses assigned to work at The Queen’s Medical Center. The hospital has assured them that procedures are in place to protect them while the patient is being monitored.

A message sent to all employees Wednesday said that the hospital is “evaluating a patient for possible symptoms that may be consistent with Ebola.”

The union that represents the nurses was tipped off about the message Wednesday afternoon.

Joan Craft, president of the Hawaii Nurses Association, immediately contacted the hospital for assurance that safety procedures are in place to protect her members.

“Blood and fluid procedures are safe, but there are a lot of contagious things you can come in contact with,” she told KHON2. “Ebola is very frightening, but procedures are safe and we just want to make sure everyone knows that.”

The HNA also wanted to make sure that if someone is pregnant or otherwise uncomfortable dealing with the patient, that he or she does not have to be involved in the monitoring of the patient.

Experts gave us that reassurance last month and said then that unless you traveled to an area that was experiencing an outbreak, the risk of contracting Ebola is very low.

There is no room designed specifically for Ebola at Queen’s Medical Center, but the hospital says it is equipped to deal with the virus if needed.

The Department of Health has confirmed a patient is currently in isolation and undergoing testing in Honolulu.

The Hawaii Nurses Association said the person is being treated at The Queen’s Medical Center.

Officials told KHON2 Ebola is a possibility, however the patient has yet to be specifically tested for the virus.

“We are early in the investigation of a patient — very, very, early, who we’re investigating that might have Ebola,” said Dr. Melissa Viray, deputy state epidemiologist. “It’s very possible that they do and they have Ebola, I think it’s also more likely that they have another condition that presents with similar symptoms.”

Dr. Viray said the patient could have a number of illnesses including Ebola, flu, malaria and typhoid.

Dr. Viray wouldn’t confirm any details about the patient, symptoms, or if the person had recently traveled to West Africa. But she did say red flags for Ebola include fever and recent travel to that area.

[Roisin]

And so the nightmare begins...

Dallas Ebola patient 'throwing up all over the place' on way to hospital

Two days after he was sent home from a Dallas hospital, the man who is the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States was seen vomiting on the ground outside an apartment complex as he was bundled into an ambulance.
Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/chi-ebola-patient-america-20141002,0,4606026.story#ixzz3EzfVcwFz


Ebola Patient Thomas Eric Duncan Vomited Outdoors, Witness Tells Reuters

DALLAS — Two days after he was sent home from a Dallas hospital, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. was seen vomiting on the ground outside an apartment complex as he was bundled into an ambulance. "His whole family was screaming. He got outside and he was throwing up all over the place," resident Mesud Osmanovic, 21, said on Wednesday, describing the chaotic scene before Thomas Eric Duncan was admitted to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday. Duncan, 42, is in serious condition. Osmanovic said he met the man three times over the years when he was visiting his family. His account could not be independently confirmed by NBC News. Ebola spreads through contact with bodily fluids such as blood or saliva, which health experts say limits its potential to infect others, unlike airborne diseases. While past outbreaks of Ebola killed as many as 90 percent of victims, the current epidemic's fatality rate has averaged about 50 percent in West Africa.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-vomited-outdoors-witness-tells-reuters-n216426

80 People Came Into Contact With Ebola Patient Thomas Eric Duncan

About 80 people came into contact with U.S. Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan or one of his family members before he was hospitalized, Dallas County health officials said Thursday. However, not all of them were necessarily in close physical contact with the Liberian national, Dallas County’s Health and Human Services director Zachary Thompson said. That number is in addition to the 12-18 people who had direct contact with Duncan, including some school-age children, Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Wednesday.

It’s unclear if Duncan was already showing symptoms of the virus when he or his family in North Dallas came into contact with the estimated 80 people. But those contacts will be investigated, questioned and monitored to determine exactly how close they got.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/80-people-came-contact-ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-n216521

[SilentFeathers]

They have no interest what-so-ever in preventing and or containing this virus, (actions speak louder than words), but only letting it infect people and trying to control its spread rate to some extent.

I'm flabbergasted at to how ridiculous the CDC and Government has dealt with this virus thus far, but, then again they created it and are probably just following orders.

The general population to a large extent lacks logic, reason, and common sense, so I imagine by the end of the year, between the evil controllers and the braindead portion of the general population, this virus will be peppered all over the country by the end of the year.

The zombie movie prophecies become reality soon, and the feds get there police state and mandated vaccine programs, the health care system and pharmaceutical companies make billions, and Obamacare becomes a huge success finally as 10's of millions are forced to register to get the treatments and "preventative mandatory vaccine"..........

[Roisin]

Why hasn’t the U.S. closed its airports to travelers from Ebola-ravaged countries?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/01/why-hasnt-the-u-s-closed-its-airports-to-travelers-from-ebola-ravaged-countries/


Now that a man in the United States has been diagnosed with Ebola, some are asking why we haven't stopped allowing people traveling from West Africa into our airports.

Thomas Eric Duncan, the patient currently being treated in the Dallas area, boarded a flight from Liberia on Sept. 19 and arrived in Texas on Sept. 20. United Airlines said Wednesday that it was told by the CDC that Duncan had used the airline to travel from Brussels to Dulles International Airport outside Washington, D.C., before flying from Dulles to Dallas-Fort Worth.

Authorities have said repeatedly that there is no danger of anyone getting sick from flying with Duncan because was not symptomatic at the time.
click on link to read full article.

Let's face it folks, our gov't's are ill equipped to handle the Ebola epidemic because they don't even have common sense! (right Silent Feathers... just read your post)

This said though, at this point in the game, I'm seriously wondering if there are nefarious forces behind all of this that are intentionally mishandling this epidemic for reasons that are so demonic, the avg. person out there would not even be able to wrap their mind around it and will go into denial instead once they find out about it.

Also, I agree with one of the many comments made on this article on that page... they are rolling in so fast, one cannot even keep ones place in that section for a split second without losing ones place on that page....

8:40 AM EDT

This article pretends that spreading contagion from people who are already symptomatic on airlines and in airports is the only issue. As we have seen, it is not: a person who has been exposed and is not symptomatic YET can get on a plane and carry the disease to a new country. That issue is entirely unaddressed in this article.

As for the issue of bringing help and humanitarian aid to the infected countries, that has to do with letting people in, not letting them out. How, exactly, would keeping people from Liberia from entering the US prevent us from sending people and supplies to Liberia to help? Again, entirely unaddressed.


And here's a comment on that comment:


You are so correct!! the CDC defends itself by saying transmission occurs once you have symptoms that develop 21 days after 1st contamination... in 21 days, someone can travel all over the world and maybe shed viruses before the symptoms appear. They never tested the shedding on a sick patient because they only are capable of detecting these once they develop the worse. I am wondering where the analytical thinking is within that agency... they are NOT inquisitive at all which is super scary!


An earlier comment:


This article misses the entire point of banning air travel from affected countries to the U.S., which is to prevent Ebola from coming to the U.S. and spreading it to others in this country (and other countries). So what if the risk of of contracting the virus on a plane is slim? The problem is AFTER the person lands and puts others at risk when they begin exhibiting symptoms. The fact is that this was 100% preventable if there had been a mandatory quarantine or flight ban from these countries in place.

As a former journalist, I am appalled by this article that reads like a CDC press release, with absolutely no voice given to the other side. My former editor never would have let this through. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to ban flights to and from these countries to all but essential medical and aid workers (one Texas Congressman has even publicly stated this), but this was not even discussed in this article. Unfortunately, there are a lot of crazies that appear to dominate the other side (racists, conspiracy theorists, doomsday preppers). But some of us are actually progressive, pro-science, reasonable people who believe the government is not doing everything it can to prevent the disease from coming to the U.S. and we want answers. I hope the Post will print a more balanced article next time.


"If someone isn't exhibiting symptoms of Ebola, that person is not infectious. And one of the first symptoms of Ebola is a fever. In airports in all of the affected regions and across the world, passengers coming from flights from West Africa are being screened for elevated temperatures."

It is possible that the person would not have an elevated temperature when he was checked at the airport and then 5 hours into the flight the elevated temperature reveals itself - thus becoming infectious. Ever think of that CDC?

If there was ever a time to be overly cautious - this is the time.

Someone just posted this... soooooo true!


This "report" sent a shiver up my spine. This is not the voice of the Washington Post. It is the voice of a government clamping down on information and answers to obvious questions. It makes no sense why they would let west Africans board planes to anywhere in the world they choose. Anyone of them could be incubating the disease and not show symptoms until they arrive at their destination. Obviously, US health care workers are most at risk. Infected individuals will show up in the ER throwing up or with diarrhea and when cleaning up, the virus enters through micro-cuts in hands (we all have them). Unless, I guess, everyone is wearing gloves at all times with no micro tears in the glove fingertips. I'm sorry, if you've ever spent time in hospitals, they mean well,but no, I am not putting my faith in US healthcare workers the way the gov't is doing. Not everyone working in hospitals is a wonderful doctor with 8 hrs of sleep. Most are nurses and technicians working double shifts with their minds elsewhere. It's simple: we must keep the disease from getting here in the first place and you do that by keeping the populace of massively infected countries from flying around the world and winding up in non-infected countries' ER's.

[Roisin]

Thousands of children orphaned, rejected as Ebola wrecks families

(Reuters) - Two days after his mother died of Ebola at a clinic in the Liberian capital Monrovia last month, four-year-old John was put into foster care so he could be monitored for the disease.

John's new guardian, an Ebola survivor, was immune to the deadly virus and happy to look after him. But when neighbours heard of the plan, they refused to allow them home fearing the boy might infect them too.

John's case highlights the plight of some 3,700 children in West Africa that have lost one or both parents to Ebola and now face abandonment and stigma, according to U.N. child agency UNICEF. The figure could double by mid-October, it said.

Children represent just 15 percent of the recorded 3,091 Ebola deaths recorded mostly in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, below the proportion of the population they represent, according to World Health Organization (WHO) statistics.

But that number masks the broader impact the disease is having on children. Fear of contagion means many orphans, even those who test negative, are being abandoned.

The dangerous nature of the disease means aid workers are having to rethink how they look after them.

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20140930&t=2&i=979889313&w=580&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=LYNXNPEA8T0T2

Full article here.... http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/09/30/health-ebola-children-idINKCN0HP20C20140930


U.S. Ebola patient helped carry convulsing pregnant woman who later died of the virus days before he flew to Texas. Four more of his neighbors died too: So how was he allowed to board a plane?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777366/U-S-Ebola-victim-helped-carry-convulsing-pregnant-woman-later-died-virus-four-days-flew-Liberia-Texas-Four-neighbors-died-So-allowed-step-flight.html

*Four days before he boarded a flight for the U.S., Ebola patient Thomas Eric

*Duncan carried an infected woman to a hospital in Liberia

*That sick pregnant woman, her brother and three neighbors later died of the disease

*Because he wasn't displaying any symptoms of the sickness, Mr Duncan was allowed to board a flight out of the country on September 19

*Ebola can hide in the system for up to 21 days, raising questions about how hot-spot countries will stop the spread of the disease

*Mr Duncan first admitted himself to the hospital on September 24, but was turned away with antibiotics despite telling staff he arrived from Liberia

*He then spent two days getting sicker and sicker, and coming into contact with several family members - including five school children

*Number of people with indirect contact to Ebola patient now more than 80

*He is currently in 'serious but stable condition' at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital

*Mr Duncan will reportedly not receive experimental serum ZMapp, which helped save the lives of three American aid workers, because stock of the drug has run out

It appears an act of compassion led Thomas Eric Duncan to contract Ebola, and become the first patient diagnosed with the deadly disease on U.S. soil.
Just four days before he boarded a plane bound for Dallas, Texas, Duncan helped carry his landlord's convulsing pregnant daughter to a Liberian clinic to be treated for Ebola, The New York Times reports.
The woman, named by The Times as 19-year-old Marthalene Williams died the next day, after being turned away from the overcrowded hospital that didn't have room for her.
The landlord's son and three neighbors who came in contact with the woman also died soon afterwards.
But Mr Duncan wasn't showing any symptoms when he arrived at a Monrovia airport on September 19, and therefore was allowed on a flight out of Liberia bound for the U.S.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/01/1412193351269_Image_galleryImage_DALLAS_AP_The_sister_of_t.JPG
Patient zero: Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian national who had traveled to the U.S. from Liberia on September 20 to visit family, has been quarantined at a Dallas hospital after contracting Liberia. It was revealed that he helped carry an infected pregnant woman to a hospital, just four days before boarding a flight out of the Ebola-stricken country

Current policy dictates that only those displaying symptoms of the disease are barred from flying. But Ebola can hide in the system for up to 21 days, raising serious concerns the disease will start turning up around the world.
In Liberia, Mr Duncan worked moving cargo for FedEx, but had recently quit his job when he acquired a visa to visit the U.S. where his son reportedly lives.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412223366115_wps_38_Passengers_queue_for_leav.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412240085935_wps_2_Thomas_Duncan_flew_from_M.jpg

[SilentFeathers]

Let's face it folks, our gov't's are ill equipped to handle the Ebola epidemic because they don't even have common sense! (right Silent Feathers... just read your post)

This said though, at this point in the game, I'm seriously wondering if there are nefarious forces behind all of this that are intentionally mishandling this epidemic for reasons that are so demonic, the avg. person out there would not even be able to wrap their mind around it and will go into denial instead once they find out about it.


Logic reason, and common sense pertaining to taking "smart" preventative measures....

One must ask the question; are they really this stupid or is there a more sinister and evil (perhaps demonic) purpose/agenda going one with this?????????????

Well, for me; logic, reason, and common sense tells me there is no way they are this stupid!

ADDED:

If you talk bad and bash the president of the US or the government, you may likely end up on a no fly list......but!....if you might have ebola, you can fly to any place on the planet that you want to!!!!! (Where's the logic, reason, and common sense with that?).

It's all beyond ridiculous in my opinion.....

[Roisin]

Ebola 'could become airborne': United Nations warns of 'nightmare scenario' as virus spreads to the US

Exclusive: Anthony Banbury, chief of the UN's Ebola mission, says there is a chance the deadly virus could mutate to become infectious through the air
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/ebola/11135883/Ebola-could-become-airborne-United-Nations-warns-of-nightmare-scenario-as-virus-spreads-to-the-US.html

The fact is, they already KNOW it's airborne and they have known this for quite some time too. This most recent article that was posted only a few minutes ago gives proof to that fact.

[Bob]

Current statistic: 3,340 people have died in West Africa from the latest Ebola-Zaire strain outbreak, the largest since the disease was first reported in the 1970s.

The White House on Wednesday 1, October, 2014 said no travel restrictions would be put in place to prevent more cases of Ebola from entering the United States.

All that's apparently needed they say is this:
"We've provided guidance to pilots, flight attendants and others who are responsible for staffing our transportation infrastructure to ensure that if they notice individuals who are exhibiting symptoms ... that the proper authorities are notified,” spokesman Josh Earnest said.

Seems the person at the ticketing counter, or a pilot is now a qualified Medico able to perform diagnosis on the spot, and fly a plane, or press the computer keyboard to see if your credentials check out correctly before taking your baggage.. Er, what if you check in at the gate?

What happens if an infected patient hands the gate checkin baggage attendant a TIP (all covered in virus particles which can remain viable on surfaces for up to 5 days or so).. No worries say talking head hired guns (consultant "doctors" that MSM used to explain, it's all OK, nothing to see here...)

Thomas Duncan left Monrovia on Sept. 19 and spent the next 28 hours traveling to Dallas, with lengthy layovers in Brussels, Belgium and Washington Dulles International Airport, the Associated Press reported.

Vomiting and suffering from a fever, Duncan showed up at Texas Presbyterian Hospital last Thursday — but was given antibiotics and sent home, even though he told a nurse he had recently traveled from Ebola-ravaged Liberia.

It took a call to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to get the ill man proper medical attention, Duncan’s nephew told the News.

"I called CDC to get some actions taken, because I was concerned for his life and he wasn't getting the appropriate care," Josephus Weeks told NBC. "I feared other people might also get infected if he wasn't taken care of, and so I called them to ask them why is it a patient that might be suspected of this disease was not getting appropriate care?"

This is so typical, I have seen this behaviour many times in Hospitals. My mother died because of a similar situation but I should have called CDC, not the local Health Department who basically stuck their finger in their arse took a good smell and said, nothing to see here, move along... $#!%$!

The first U.S.-diagnosed Ebola victim likely came into indirect contact with about 100 people in Dallas, Texas health officials said, in the days after the 42-year-old helped to take a pregnant woman stricken with the lethal virus to a hospital in Monrovia, Liberia's capital, Sept. 15.

"Out of an abundance of caution, we're starting with this very wide net, including people who have had even brief encounters with the patient or the patient's home," Texas Department of State Health Services spokeswoman Carrie Williams said. "The number will drop as we focus in on those whose contact may represent a potential risk of infection."

The four close family members must stay isolated in their Dallas home until Oct. 19, health officials said. Those four are required to provide blood samples on request and report any signs of sickness, the statement from the Texas Department of State Health Services said.

“We have tried and true protocols to protect the public and stop the spread of this disease,” said Dr. David Lakey, the Texas health commissioner. “This order gives us the ability to monitor the situation in the most meticulous way.”

hmmm...


(Source (http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/80-people-dallas-monitored-ebola-article-1.1960700))

[Bob]

Double speak and triple speak, as to WHY the US will continue to keep its boarders open to travelers from Countries with Ebola.

They say, "You see health care workers need to travel to those infected countries, and supplies need to be sent there, so that's why we MUST keep our flights free of restrictions...."

HUH?

What does travel TO have ANYTHING to do with TRAVEL FROM?

If an epidemic of some animal disease exists, there are NO IMPORTS allowed of an animal into the US, no matter WHAT..

HAWAII for instance won't let you bring your dog or cat from the mainland for up to 6 months !!! even if it shows no signs nor symptoms of anything.. IMPORT POLICY...

INSANITY typified - an optical thermometer which usually bears a warning on it, NOT FOR USE ON HUMANS OR ANIMALS because of the inaccuracy oftentimes encountered..


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=http://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_908w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/09/02/Interactivity/Images/04352311.jpg&w=1484

Above is your line of defence..
Just to put that in perspective...

As has been pointed out international travel from Africa to the US can take up to 28 hours allowing for layovers, transfers between airlines and so forth...

So a patient having gotten infected 5 days prior could show up just under the wire as NO fever (and allowing for any inaccuracy in the Optical Thermometer, even that evaluation is not accurate)... and then on the flight or during the layovers, they could become massively "infective" according to CDC and NIH standards..

So go figure.. how can an optical thermometer check provide any real protection.. If someone is 104 degree fever, they are not going to be walking around.. as CDC has pointed out they are going to be bed-ridden...

Logically, one would need a blood test and a 21 day quarantine prior to travel with some certification saying CLEAR TO TRAVEL..

BUT the US is refusing, saying nothing to see here, move along.. ODD ?

We already have the YELLOW CARD that must be presented showing that Yellow Fever inoculations have been made, about 14 days prior to travel.. Yellow Fever inoculations stay valid for 10 years, requiring a booster shot.. Without Yellow Card certification, NOBODY enters a country which enforces that requirement.

US doesn't care though.. why is that?

[SilentFeathers]

Pertaining your recent post about drinking the kool-aid and venturing down the rabbit hole......when in fact that is the only method it seems now-a-days to find anything that makes sense!

Listening or researching anywhere else only ends up with jibberish which makes bugs bunny seem real and elmer fudd the real dangerous dude to avoid.

So basically jumping down that rabbit hole searching for truth may be the only place for a sane person to find any real answers that make any sense....

[Bob]

Pertaining your recent post about drinking the kool-aid and venturing down the rabbit hole......when in fact that is the only method it seems now-a-days to find anything that makes sense!

Listening or researching anywhere else only ends up with jibberish which makes bugs bunny seem real and elmer fudd the real dangerous dude to avoid.

So basically jumping down that rabbit hole searching for truth may be the only place for a sane person to find any real answers that make any sense....

Alas one can get tularemia from infected rabbits.. I suppose which rabbit hole one jumps into..

I'll do my own research on each item that catches my attention, not from alternative conspiracy websites though, as luckily I can find the data from technical inside the industry journals, and take the pulse there.. :) If I cite MSM, it has been vetted sufficiently.

(Kool-Ayde reference post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75518-First-Ebola-Case-in-US...your-thoughts&p=883691&viewfull=1#post883691 - tongue in cheek satire if one needs to figure that out) ;)

[SilentFeathers]

Being a bit familiar with this thread and a few others concerning ebola, it surely seems that almost everything we've discussed pertaining to our own personal opinions/predictions are coming true.

I just came out of the rabbit hole :).....and yes, it is a rather weird place down there but I seen enough evidence here and there that really has convinced me the Gov and or an extremely sick group of individuals are hell bent on letting this ebola go global and cause lots of damage and suffering.....and cause lots of money to be made by a few select corporations.

When people here in the states start dropping like flies the gov and cdc simply just needs to say whoops, we underestimated it.....no accountability once again. And, remember? They already told and showed us it can be cured, actually rubbed it in our face.

...and conveniently they ran out of the magic potion so they tell us as they send viles of it to people in high places who are on the "you get to live" list.

a total psyops of the sickest form.......genocide like what smallpox did to the native americans. I wonder what Darwin would say about this "program of evolution" ?

[Bob]

Liberia says, if that $#@%$#@ Duncan (survives) and tries to come back to Liberia,
he will be arrested for falsifying the questionnaire document - have you come in contact with a person with Ebola...

They said he said NO (did not have contact), knowing fully that he did.

(assorted news reports, live)

Why would anyone believe that answering questionnaire is actually going to mean anything as a first line of defence?

Anyone bent on infecting people or wanting to come to the US possibly for treatment, or other reasons is going to say what ever is going to let them travel..

What logic is behind that mindset, sign a paper?


http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/headline/public/2014/09/23/rtr479ez.jpg?itok=Y_Y3cjzQ

Young man, answer me truthfully now, have you been near, had close contact with a person sick or exhibiting sickness similar to what one may assume might now be classed as a potential infection of the filovirus we are calling as an Ebola outbreak?

MAAAAhhhhhhhhhh, wwwwwwwwwaaaaaaa.

[Bob]

Example of the South African Travel Ban (control measures) applied to those people coming INTO the country..

The form must be submitted no earlier than 5 days PRIOR to getting to the airport, that ensures they believe, that the traveler (hopefully not a patient) won't present as being sick/infected etc..


http://chanlo.com/images/travel-1.jpg

This is how they are qualifying how they will let in nationals, and non-nationals into South Africa.. Do you suppose a similar type of document should be used for travelers originating their flights from high threat level Ebola outbreak countries?


http://chanlo.com/images/ban-1.jpg

Earlier in the document, they request the flight number(s) and itinerary apparently so such can be checked. Homeland Security/TSA does checking (http://www.tsa.gov/stakeholders/secure-flight-program) similarly when one applies for international travel to try to verify if everything matches, (i.e. no-fly list, etc..)

---- example:
When passengers travel, they are required to provide the following Secure Flight Passenger Data (SFPD)(.pdf, 192kb (http://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/pdf/SecureFlight_PassengerDataDefinitions.pdf)) to the airline:


Name (as it appears on government-issued ID the passenger plans to use when traveling)
Date of Birth
Gender
Redress Number (if applicable)
Known Traveler Number (if applicable)
The airline submits this information to Secure Flight, which uses it to perform watch list matching. This serves to prevent individuals on the No Fly List from boarding an aircraft and to identify individuals on the Selectee List for enhanced screening. After matching passenger information against government watch lists, Secure Flight transmits the matching results back to airlines so they can issue passenger boarding passes.


IF the travel restrictions certification similar to what South Africa uses for travel into North and South America (and the rest of Europe for instance), possibly, with a 5 day prior "earliest time before flight" is submitted, (and checked some way) MAYBE the spread of Ebola could be accomplished.. MAYBE..

PLEASE note very specifically, in the travel medical history portion of the form, that the traveler subjects themselves to MONITORING for 21 days upon entering...

Will this form be used for all forms of travel, considering the various viruses in the World today? That anyone traveling will have to be monitored for 21 days? if there is an infection present (read outbreak) in an affected country. At what point is that "outbreak" threshold set? 500 people affected, 10,000 people affected?

Saudi Arabia has travel bans for those wanting to attend the HAJJ, that certain immunizations must be documented (and certified) before entry..

Is the logic in the US and other parts of North and South America, and Europe and Asia to allow unrestricted (health risk issues) travel, or what?

[Chanlo23]

Totally agree Bob. Is there ANYONE in their right mind who would expect a person to answer such a question truthfully when they are clearly trying to get out of one country and into another? It doesn't matter if he just wanted to go to a country he thought would actually treat him (as the woman he was exposed to was not) or if he was mule who had been hired to be an active carrier. Who would expect such a 'question' to be the first and apparently ONLY procedure in place to identify contagious disease on public transport? Unless such an illness is manifesting blatant symptomology, there does not appear to be any process in place to monitor for or test for or quarantine such an illness?

THIS is the type of question that interests me about this 'event' -- not the questions raised or the points made or the possible solutions put forth that are often repeated. Invariably, someone will name a person they consider to be an expert on propaganda, false flags, or fear mongering, etc. and/or a guru from whom all are advised to see the truth. Likewise, people are advised to seek alternative treatments, which may or may not be part of the kool-aid, may or may not be as toxic as the allegedly outbreak, and may or may not be have any basis in medical relevancy. And, someone will always bring up the likelihood of the outbreak to be THE false flag event, THE final straw that generates martial law in the U.S., THE excuse for rounding up citizens and forcing them all into labor camps, THE final act to break the economy and crash the world, etc.

Some of the other questions I wondered about, however, and wished I had an answer for:
Just how many times in U.S. history has martial law been declared (country-wide)?
What were the circumstances?
Just how many people in the U.S. or anywhere else have been 'rounded up', forced into camps because of medical outbreaks (retrovirii, eboli, malaria or anything else) or 'false flag' events?

Even in the countries where these outbreaks have allegedly occurred, there is no massive round up or quarantining going on (or has not been reported).

Despite the extensive web links/ reporting by Alex Jones (and others) on various types of 'camps' and intentions to declare martial law, etc., how many U.S. citizens have actually ever been forcibly rounded up and PUT in them? How many U.S. citizens have ever been rounded up for a medical outbreak or false flag event? How many countries actually have operating concentration camps with contagiously ill people in them?

What methodologies actually exist to ascertain if someone has a contagious disease (who is trying to get to the U.S. or any other country) on any form of public transport? Simply asking a question (from a typical form such as the one you posted) that NO ONE is ever going to answer truthfully if it will prevent them from flying is obscenely irresponsible and woefully inadequate as any kind of protection or prevention measure.

[SilentFeathers]

What methodologies actually exist to ascertain if someone has a contagious disease (who is trying to get to the U.S. or any other country) on any form of public transport? Simply asking a question (from a typical form such as the one you posted) that NO ONE is ever going to answer truthfully if it will prevent them from flying is obscenely irresponsible and woefully inadequate as any kind of protection or prevention measure.

Seriously, can you name one important thing that they have done so far that HAS been responsible and adequate as a serious preventative measure?

ADDED:
There common sense approach to this is to let people travel to and fro, bring sick doctors here, and to send approx. 3000 soldiers to the hot zone to "FIGHT" ebola.

This is so ridiculous a fifth grader is smarter and has more common sense than the so called "EXPERTS"

MORE:
This is such an obvious intentional spread of a disease/virus that if my chickens had a TV in their coop and watched CNN, they could even figure it out.

[Bob]

I've added a few more points and questions to be answered in post http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=884137&viewfull=1#post884137 above..

It's possible, that with non-forged documents, that putting a 5 day minimum, meaning one cannot fly out of an outbreak area (or otherwise travel, by boat, vehicle, train, lorry, etc.) that the form(s) and proof must be submitted by the person, and not some proxy, 5 days before leaving... That probably means, an in-person presentation, verifying ID.. That somewhat ensures that with the current infection rates as they are, 5 days after exposure most people will start to present at least elevated temperature, and could become obviously sick, able to be noted, and observed...

Such requirements background checks exist on guns, (except for instant background check obviously)...

My feeling is though, we can come up with a better spot analyser tool, better than an optical thermometer, and do a biochemical test instantaneously and show within 5 minutes if any of 100 different types of diseases are possible.. In the DARPA thread that I had started, I had discussed different types of biowarfare monitors, how they work, and how they can monitor pico-level amounts of substances present for even forensic analysis of who may have been the "carrier" of a bioweapon..

Possibly its time to restart interest in that.



What methodologies actually exist to ascertain if someone has a contagious disease (who is trying to get to the U.S. or any other country) on any form of public transport? Simply asking a question (from a typical form such as the one you posted) that NO ONE is ever going to answer truthfully if it will prevent them from flying is obscenely irresponsible and woefully inadequate as any kind of protection or prevention measure.

Seriously, can you name one important thing that they have done so far that HAS been responsible and adequate as a serious preventative measure?

ADDED:
There common sense approach to this is to let people travel to and fro, bring sick doctors here, and to send approx. 3000 soldiers to the hot zone to "FIGHT" ebola.

This is so ridiculous a fifth grader is smarter and has more common sense than the so called "EXPERTS"

MORE:
This is such an obvious intentional spread of a disease/virus that if my chickens had a TV in their coop and watched CNN, they could even figure it out.

[SilentFeathers]

Your proposed preventive measure involves way too much common sense Bob, therefore I don't even see it being considered even it it arrived at the highest of levels to be considered.....

[avid]

Twitter as ye may - I don't - but here's Dr Niman's up-to-date 'tweets' (https://twitter.com/hniman) - sorry I just can't say what a load of twits, but the new social-intercourse is passing me by - I really cannot do mad texting and stuff - have no mobile phone!!!

[Bob]

Doctor: ‘CDC lying!’ - a doctor shows up in Atlanta dressed in protective gear to make a protest - says CDC isn't really telling it the way it really is..

(Source (http://conservativebyte.com/2014/10/doctor-cdc-lying-1/))

"Do we have any reason to trust them?

"Two days after a man in Texas was diagnosed with Ebola, a Missouri doctor Thursday morning showed up at Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport dressed in protective gear to protest what he called mismanagement of the crisis by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Dr. Gil Mobley checked in and cleared airport security wearing a mask, goggles, gloves, boots and a hooded white jumpsuit emblazoned on the back with the words, “CDC is lying!”

“If they’re not lying, they are grossly incompetent,” said Mobley, a microbiologist and emergency trauma physician from Springfield, Mo.

"Mobley said the CDC is “sugar-coating” the risk of the virus spreading in the United States."

The flash video is listed here of Dr Mobley talking - short <2 min, flash player


http://www.ajc.com/videos/news/heres-why-a-doctor-wore-his-ebola-suit-in-airport/vCt7DJ/

UPDATE - the doctor was interviewed LIVE just a few minutes ago on Fox by Cavuto.

The doctor came across as sincere and highly accurate. He also mentioned having had a meeting in Wyoming and confidentially the CDC person said that with this becoming endemic (always present) in West Africa, the US (and other countries) will see constant clusters of these events, travelers coming in, only to be presenting shortly after landing (within a week)..

(MEANING proper early screening has to be performed, and a better method than just using an optical thermometer.)

Dr. Mobley also said when he went through the Atlanta international security, all they asked about was is he bringing in Tobacco or Alcohol..... (he emphaised that they did NOT ask about had he come through a country with an outbreak of Ebola)..

He was livid pointing out "we need better checking" methods, not just letting this happen..

[Bob]

Your proposed preventive measure involves way too much common sense Bob, therefore I don't even see it being considered even it it arrived at the highest of levels to be considered.....

Common sense :) one would assume South Africa has a plan that the rest of the world could adopt, easy as pie/cake/scones ..

take a look at this that I just found: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=884172&viewfull=1#post884172

A specialist pointing out that we are not being given the full story, about the nature of hemorhhagic fevers, in this case Ebola.. Its a short couple minute video.. They let him apparently travel into the airport with that garb on..

[Bob]

Twitter as ye may - I don't - but here's Dr Niman's up-to-date 'tweets' (https://twitter.com/hniman) - sorry I just can't say what a load of twits, but the new social-intercourse is passing me by - I really cannot do mad texting and stuff - have no mobile phone!!!

that press conference explaining how everything is all in control was a joke..

What i did notice interesting in it though was the family where Mr. Duncan was staying was ORDERED under penalty of LAW to stay in the house with zero outside contact.. Meaning the health department in Texas did execute a law on the books, having authority to quarantine-in-place those people. No contact IN and no contact OUT. I wonder how they are going to get food if they planned for 21 days?

that may be the magic number and the 21 day issue, if there is an announcement, lets just say something comes up and says, "It is Airborne now, mutated", can everyone afford to stay home and survive for 21 days? I can't crystal ball that obviously, many of us have reported visions that some sort of event is about to happen. Is it this one? I can't say.

[SilentFeathers]

Your proposed preventive measure involves way too much common sense Bob, therefore I don't even see it being considered even it it arrived at the highest of levels to be considered.....

Common sense :) one would assume South Africa has a plan that the rest of the world could adopt, easy as pie/cake/scones ..

take a look at this that I just found: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=884172&viewfull=1#post884172

A specialist pointing out that we are not being given the full story, about the nature of hemorhhagic fevers, in this case Ebola.. Its a short couple minute video.. They let him apparently travel into the airport with that garb on..

I seen this earlier today, I'm figuring he's been removed from the airport and heavily medicated and on his way to be psychologically evaluated by now.

It's interesting to read back in time on a few of these threads......almost like deja-vu

[Bob]

Your proposed preventive measure involves way too much common sense Bob, therefore I don't even see it being considered even it it arrived at the highest of levels to be considered.....

Common sense :) one would assume South Africa has a plan that the rest of the world could adopt, easy as pie/cake/scones ..

take a look at this that I just found: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=884172&viewfull=1#post884172

A specialist pointing out that we are not being given the full story, about the nature of hemorhhagic fevers, in this case Ebola.. Its a short couple minute video.. They let him apparently travel into the airport with that garb on..

I seen this earlier today, I'm figuring he's been removed from the airport and heavily medicated and on his way to be psychologically evaluated by now.

It's interesting to read back in time on a few of these threads......almost like deja-vu

Maybe point folks to your dialog predictions with Roisin, that forum link might be helpful for folks to understand how early event-wise this has been being maybe "planned".. PSI works very well with neural resonations, and an adept (sensitive) can realize such changes and make note, sometimes accurately, sometimes not.. but to stay on top in this thread, just please if you would, give folks the link to get to the discussion thread.. tnx :)

reference to thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=876077&viewfull=1#post876077

[SilentFeathers]

Your proposed preventive measure involves way too much common sense Bob, therefore I don't even see it being considered even it it arrived at the highest of levels to be considered.....

Common sense :) one would assume South Africa has a plan that the rest of the world could adopt, easy as pie/cake/scones ..

take a look at this that I just found: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=884172&viewfull=1#post884172

A specialist pointing out that we are not being given the full story, about the nature of hemorhhagic fevers, in this case Ebola.. Its a short couple minute video.. They let him apparently travel into the airport with that garb on..

I seen this earlier today, I'm figuring he's been removed from the airport and heavily medicated and on his way to be psychologically evaluated by now.

It's interesting to read back in time on a few of these threads......almost like deja-vu

Maybe point folks to your dialog predictions with Roisin, that forum link might be helpful for folks to understand how early event-wise this has been being maybe "planned".. PSI works very well with neural resonations, and adept can realize such changes and make note, sometimes accurately, sometimes not.. but to stay on top in this thread, just please if you would, give folks the link to get to the discussion thread.. tnx :)

I started this thread on October 8, 2013 and just a few posts down in to the thread, talk (predictions) of a zombie like virus come in to the discussion. It's touched on in spots throughout the thread.

Located here: Member Predictions for 2014 and Beyond: Intuition, Common Sense and Research/Trends Predictions ONLY (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY)

I posted this on October 22nd, 2013 (post#69)


I'm bumping this post and adding a few more comments to it, because I really do think that this will happen this winter.


Another prediction;

It's the more subtle and less vivid things that get my attention....

2012? End of the world? Zombie Apocalypse ?????

Nada, perhaps just a flu pandemic.....

Prediction: About December 2013 or January 2014 a flu pandemic will break out causing many to seek vacination.....more will die from the vacination than from the actual flu.

I predict this not only from intuition, but from the governments track record.....they can't help but to screw up!


I totally believe that this flu or strange virus outbreak will happen this winter (before March 2014) and will be a manufactured crisis on a very large scale, with one of the main sinister intentions of it being to get as many people enrolled and controlled by ObamaCare as possible, and as fast as possible.

Emergency Rooms and Doctor Offices will become ObamaCare enrollment offices in a sense and people will not be treated until they "sign on the dotted line" so to speak, hence enrolling or registering with the government (ObamaCare).


There are several claiming that a flu like virus may be started by nano technology, regardless of nano technology or an actually live virus being released, it'll basically have the same result.....problem, reaction, solution.

[Bob]

CDC on their blog page actually did have some talk about the "zombie virus"

http://cc.amazingcounters.com/counter.php?i=3190880&c=9572953
(Source (http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm))

apparently they were vibing pretty strongly.. from their blog page:


http://www.cdc.gov/images/campaigns/emergency/zombies1_300x250.jpg

"Wonder why Zombies, Zombie Apocalypse, and Zombie Preparedness continue to live or walk dead on a CDC web site? As it turns out what first began as a tongue in cheek campaign to engage new audiences with preparedness messages has proven to be a very effective platform. We continue to reach and engage a wide variety of audiences on all hazards preparedness via Zombie Preparedness."

[Roisin]

Without having read any of the predictions in that thread, which is something that I try to avoid so as not to be unconsciously influenced by any predictions made by others, on Oct. 24th I posted:

"I recently had a lucid dream, where I saw the pope standing in his pope mobile (without that glass bubble over it) where he was talking and gesticulating to crowds of people who surrounded his car. The crowd was animated.

Then in the next scene I saw what looked like thousands of people in mass hysteria. A few of them had sores on their bodies ... from what? I don't know. A disease or were they just altercations from climbing over people in that crowd?

I really don't know what to make of this one but I can't help but wonder if it's showing something from the future."

There were those signifier’s about that vision that indicated that it could be precognitive hence why I posted it. But I almost didn’t do that because it was suggesting something that was going to occur on an apocalyptic scale, in this case, a pandemic of a virus that’s so horrible, humanity would be struck with utter terror and fear. In short, it was too full of doom and gloom and as I recall, even the sky in that vision was dark and stormy.

[SilentFeathers]

CDC on their blog page actually did have some talk about the "zombie virus"

(Source (http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm))

apparently they were vibing pretty strongly.. from their blog page:


http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/images/zombie/blogbanner_zombieprep_560x140-green.jpg

"Wonder why Zombies, Zombie Apocalypse, and Zombie Preparedness continue to live or walk dead on a CDC web site? As it turns out what first began as a tongue in cheek campaign to engage new audiences with preparedness messages has proven to be a very effective platform. We continue to reach and engage a wide variety of audiences on all hazards preparedness via Zombie Preparedness."

They've (the CDC, local law, fire, and medical) have held "zombie Pandemic" drills in several locations over the last few years or so, I think there is one going on right now. they actually titled some of the drills with the word zombie in it.....

Hollywood helps with implanting the scenario with all their crazy zombie and virus movies too....

But then it really happens....coincidence? perhaps, because all movies or drills don't become real events.

Therefore I believe Roisin, myself and a few other were vibing something beyond a fantasy or fiction...

[Bob]

http://cc.amazingcounters.com/counter.php?i=3190880&c=9572953



CDC on their blog page actually did have some talk about the "zombie virus"

(Source (http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm))

apparently they were vibing pretty strongly.. from their blog page:


http://www.cdc.gov/images/campaigns/emergency/zombies1_300x250.jpg

"Wonder why Zombies, Zombie Apocalypse, and Zombie Preparedness continue to live or walk dead on a CDC web site? As it turns out what first began as a tongue in cheek campaign to engage new audiences with preparedness messages has proven to be a very effective platform. We continue to reach and engage a wide variety of audiences on all hazards preparedness via Zombie Preparedness."

They've (the CDC, local law, fire, and medical) have held "zombie Pandemic" drills in several locations over the last few years or so, I think there is one going on right now. they actually titled some of the drills with the word zombie in it.....

Hollywood helps with implanting the scenario with all their crazy zombie and virus movies too....

But then it really happens....coincidence? perhaps, because all movies or drills don't become real events.

Therefore I believe Roisin, myself and a few other were vibing something beyond a fantasy or fiction...

There is a switch happening on MSM, even though some of the "minders" are getting the talking heads to repeat the party line pablum, some are saying wait a second..

A few of the doctors are pointing out now, as long as the hemorrhagic fever (Ebola) is present endemically, (continually) the US (and other countries) will continue to see what they are calling "Cluster outbreaks" as unchecked people enter the countries. My feeling is that being pointed out enough, they will start 21 day surveillance policy. Similar to how people did not object to an infinite amount of security cameras placed everywhere, the mandatory 21 day surveillance for incoming travelers will happen.

What I don't get just yet is if then all travel will have similar surveillance monitoring (by law).. this isn't a martial law situation (yet), but the Texas health department emphasised that it had to do this quarantine and used legal steps apparently on the books to exercise its authority.

(Note - my MSM consists of reviewing, local satellite, web, and international satellite broadcasts amoungst other sources.. see this PDF (http://www.tele-satellite.com/TELE-satellite-1207/eng/dx-ralf.pdf) for understanding that there are about 8000 channels that can be picked up and reviewed for data, many broadcasts are normally hidden network feeds where one can catch the talking heads saying what's really happening before the sanitized versions hit the airwaves.. such is usually edited out by the "programmer" of the station to ensure that the public never sees it)

PS - this quote - "Wonder why Zombies, Zombie Apocalypse, and Zombie Preparedness continue to live or walk dead on a CDC web site? As it turns out what first began as a tongue in cheek campaign to engage new audiences with preparedness messages has proven to be a very effective platform. We continue to reach and engage a wide variety of audiences on all hazards preparedness via Zombie Preparedness." comes from the CDC webpage itself which is interesting that they have said to people 2011 they mention, here it comes ready or not (paraphrasing a bit), better be prepared..

some of their links: http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/areweprepared.htm - are we prepared?
http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies_novella.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/bam/teachers/physical-active.html
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/teachers_tools/virus_encounters.htm

[Roisin]

local satellite, web, and international satellite broadcasts

Good to know that someone in this forum has that kind of set-up to get information like that! No wonder you're so informed all the time where you've got the real scoop on things before everybody else does!

[Bob]

local satellite, web, and international satellite broadcasts

Good to know that someone in this forum has that kind of set-up to get information like that! No wonder you're so informed all the time where you've got the real scoop on things before everybody else does!

its an awful lot to sort, but those systems can be obtained and setup pretty easily. I think i had a forum posting somewhere on this forum which talked about where to obtain similar equipment.. the steerable dishes allows for one to move to different satellite. Some feeds are encrypted, and those encryptions can be subscribed to for a reasonable cost. It is fully international.

another brief reference to this type of receiving is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-air

[jerry]

From 2009 when the patent was given for the virus they were already busy preparing for where to put the bodies, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnqhfQ7O5Cg&feature=player_embedded

[Roisin]

I think we should grant the State of Texas its wish to secede from the Union and this current Ebola situation shows why we should do that. A foreigner who is just off the plane from Liberia and who is a citizen of that country, is sent home from an emergency room visit with only a prescription for antibiotics presumably because he was uninsured. Consequently, scores more people have been exposed to that virus due to this stupidity. Texas, an extremely conservative State that balks about "big gov't" intervening on things including healthcare, now has a real whopper of a case to deal with and Lord knows how many people are going to die from this disease in that State due to that State's draconian healthcare policies that, in this case, is endangering the entire country too!

I'm not saying they deserve what they got but let's hope that after this happened, they will provide healthcare to even the uninsured... not only in life and death cases, but also when infectious diseases are involved.

[Roisin]

I think we should grant the State of Texas its wish to secede from the Union and this current Ebola situation shows why we should do that. A foreigner who is just off the plane from Liberia and who is a citizen of that country, is sent home from an emergency room visit with only a prescription for antibiotics presumably because he was uninsured. Consequently, scores more people have been exposed to that virus due to this stupidity. Texas, an extremely conservative State that balks about "big gov't" intervening on things including healthcare, now has a real whopper of a case to deal with and Lord knows how many people are going to die from this disease in that State due to that State's draconian healthcare policies that, in this case, is endangering the entire country too!

I'm not saying they deserve what they got but let's hope that after this happened, they will provide healthcare to even the uninsured... not only in life and death cases, but also when infectious diseases are involved.

I betcha if that uninsured foreigner was from the UK or one of the northern European countries and was not in a racial minority category, he would not have been turned away from that hospital in Texas.

[Kelly Anne]

So...now an NBC freelance cameraman has come down with it.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/nbc-news-freelancer-africa-diagnosed-ebola-n217271

With what we know, and the speculation-would this be a sign of airborne transmission?

I do not know much on how the journalism crews that are there work.

I did watch NBC tonight and Dr. Snyderman and crew were in Mr. Duncans hometown interviewing a cab driver...she was not wearing protective gear...

They've been over there for a while and they've been taking precautions...so they think?

Sorry if this is a repeat or OT on this thread....and I've not been able to catch up on all the posts here...scattered day here for me.

[Roisin]

update: So now a cameraman at NBC has Ebola.... not surprised by that.

I noticed that too! That doctor who is a well known NBC medical specialist on the Today show, was not wearing any kind of protective gear when talking to that cab driver. I think she was obviously just showing off that she's playing along with the game dictated by her bosses at that network. But rest assured, I would not be surprised that she's currently praying fervently that the cab driver was not infected. He should be in quarantine.... yet he's not. The insanity of it all!

I wonder if he even disinfected his cab after transporting Ducan and that infected pregnant girl to the hospital.

[Sidney]

Forgive me if this has been posted already. It appears the US diagnosed ebola victim lied on travel documents. This story is going viral on MSM. Why do I get the feeling that there has been some tweaking done to the real facts.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/health/ebola-us/

[Rocky_Shorz]

United contacting those who flew with Ebola victim

"DALLAS (AP) — United Airlines said Thursday it is notifying passengers who were on flights with a man later diagnosed with Ebola and telling them how to contact federal health officials..."

link (http://t.co/zqArhITT0y)

[Roisin]

So...now an NBC freelance cameraman has come down with it.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/nbc-news-freelancer-africa-diagnosed-ebola-n217271

With what we know, and the speculation-would this be a sign of airborne transmission?

I do not know much on how the journalism crews that are there work.

I did watch NBC tonight and Dr. Snyderman and crew were in Mr. Duncans hometown interviewing a cab driver...she was not wearing protective gear...

They've been over there for a while and they've been taking precautions...so they think?

Sorry if this is a repeat or OT on this thread....and I've not been able to catch up on all the posts here...scattered day here for me.

Thanks for this update! Wow!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Forgive me if this has been posted already. It appears the US diagnosed ebola victim lied on travel documents. This story is going viral on MSM. Why do I get the feeling that there has been some tweaking done to the real facts.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/health/ebola-us/

I read about that... amazing isn't it? I wonder why authorities think that people are going to be truthful when answering those questions at the airport before departure. They are morons. That's the long and short of it.

[Bob]

NBC is reporting that - freelance working in Liberia..
All the NBC crew is going to be flown back to the US including the camerman.

An Abundance of Caution...

Not airborne?

NBC's Dr. Nancy Snyderman, in Monrovia, Libera is saying even though the temp was normal at the outset, the camerman got sicker, by the hour.. he went to the clinic at Doctors without Borders, and currently is being kept in the Clinic there.. (live phone dialog with Dr. Snyderman)

The whole reporting team is baffled, HOW he got it..

Snyderman believes her team has minimal risks.. She re-reads the party line, have to be exposed to bodily fluids. She says, she has been extremely careful, so HOW the heck, where did this happen?

[Roisin]

Rand Paul claims that Ebola could ‘get beyond our control’ and that the CDC is downplaying the threat


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412261754200_wps_5_Sen_Rand_Paul_R_Ky_listen.jpg

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Kentucky Senator Rand Paul cautioned on Wednesday that the government's health experts may not be as capable of containing Ebola as they're telling Americans.

'It's a big mistake to downplay and act as if "oh, this is not a big deal, we can control all this." This could get beyond our control,' Paul, who has an MD in optometry from Duke University, told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham.
'I think because of political correctness we’re not really making sound, rational, scientific decisions on this,' he warned.

Paul later claimed, 'we should not underestimate the transmissibility' of the virus, introducing doubt into the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's assertions that Ebola can only be passed on through bodily fluids.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778141/Rand-Paul-claims-Ebola-control-CDC-downplaying-threat.html

[Bob]

Death toll
The World Health Organization has put the death toll at 3,338 out of 7,178 cases since March.

Regions evaluated for statistical data: Ebola cases and deaths have been reported in Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria and Senegal.

The Honor system

This process relies on an honor system, Chen said.

There are at least two other screening points before a passenger is allowed to board a plane, with trained airport personnel asking about exposure to Ebola in the previous 21 days and any symptoms including fever, severe headache, bleeding, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain.

DoubleSpeak, backwards logic

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden cautioned on Thursday that a more restrictive approach to travel could make the Ebola outbreak harder to contain.

"The approach of isolating a country is going to make it harder to get help into that country," he said.

This is insanity party line logic. The argument is checking people COMING IN TO THE US/CANADA/SOUTH AMERICA, or EUROPE FROM a trip which originated in a Country called a HIGH RISK country (Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea)..

Repeatedly saying won't check, saying it will hinder efforts sending SUPPLIES TO those countries is totally ridiculous.

FIRST LINE OF DEFENCE is a farce

FEVER DETECTION

Virologist Heinz Feldmann of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases has studied Ebola for years and helped develop an experimental Ebola vaccine. He told Science magazine in September that airport screeners in Monrovia, where he spent three weeks, "Don't really know how to use the devices."

He said he saw screeners record temperatures of 32 degrees C (90 F), which is so low it "is impossible for a living person."

ABLE TO CHEAT THE THERMOMETER SCREENING

"The fever-screening instruments run low and aren't that accurate," said infection control specialist Sean Kaufman, president of Behavioral-Based Improvement Solutions, a biosafety company based in Atlanta.

"And people can take ibuprofen to reduce their fever enough to pass screening, and why wouldn't they? If it will get them on a plane so they can come to the United States and get effective treatment after they're exposed to Ebola, wouldn't you do that to save your life?"

(Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/03/us-health-ebola-screening-idUSKCN0HS09J20141003))

[pyrangello]

Silent Feathers, one thing about any government, nothing gets changed until it is forced upon the government to do so. However, it appears by the time we reach that point there will be no gear to shift into reverse if this virus marches on. Remember you can't develop a vaccine unless the host maintains a certain pattern. Thus the trump card of a virus called the mutation . I was listening to one interview where there is 5 different ebola's running in Africa at present, one of the strains has mutated and changed 300 times to a different formation. So that being said dig in for a bumpy ride. My buddy who is a surgeon said without hesitation "Every 100 years a virus comes around and wipes out a bunch of people , it's just nature taking its course " . A virus does want to live so it changes to deflect the defensive moves. In the past Ebola was so aggressive it just burned itself out as the host couldn't jump fast enough. I'm not even in the medical profession and I've read all of this stuff. Hell I know tons of people that have MERSA. It's everywhere. Keep your immune system up , look up the utube video with bill ryan and vitamin d-3 in Europe, great interview. This is only one of the things you can do. Stay Tuned...........

[Bob]

The spectre of the Ebola Bio-Weapon rears up once again -

“The individual exposed to the Ebola Virus would be the carrier,” Shimkus told Forbes. “In the context of terrorist activity, it doesn’t take much sophistication to go to that next step to use a human being as a carrier.”

We've asked this in the thread a couple times, and pointed out various methods, groups who would have been working with Ebola and Marburg at it's outset, starting in the late 60's in the height of the cold war where bioweapons, nuclear and chemical weapons were being refined for maximum effect.. At a certain point an ultimate "doomsday" device was discussed, nuclear in origin, but quite possibly the ultimate doomsday weapons are virus or bacteria infections. Generally a bacteria can be stopped by the right "anti-biotic", but many bacteria can be amplified to become antibiotic resistant.. Viruses on the other hand generally tend to be poorly understood, so that effective treatments are not understood, and not developed (at least not talked about in the public arena).

"A national security expert, who notes that the “Islamic State of Iraq and Syria” and terror groups like it wouldn't even have to weaponize the virus to attempt to wreak strategic global infection.

Such groups could simply use human carriers to intentionally infect themselves in West Africa, then disseminate the deadly virus via the world’s air transportation system. Or so says Capt. Al Shimkus, Ret., a Professor of National Security Affairs at the U.S. Naval War College."

(Source (http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2014/10/05/ebola-as-isis-bio-weapon/))

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand such things have been happening since the dawn of time when humans accidentally experienced and realized that sickness can be conveyed from one body to another (anthrax was an early bioweapon (http://www.emedicinehealth.com/biological_warfare/article_em.htm)).

The transmission of a bioweapon into "enemy lines" has remained an interesting challenge to develop the best or most useful methods for delivery. (http://www.emedicinehealth.com/biological_warfare/page3_em.htm#how_biological_agents_are_delivered_and_detected)

Picking a weapon that doesn't have an antidote obviously is what one would choose for ultimate doomsday weapons. One of the reasons why DTRA USAMRIID and CDC have been looking at finding solutions to the diseases without any cure.

What is happening with Ebola, and the other viruses? Weaponization or natural mutation? Was this strain of Ebola-Zaire originally a specifically engineered weapons-grade strain setup with an ability to "easily mutate", making for difficulty in treating? (treatment has been to create a molecular antibody tag specifically designed to react to unique characteristics in the particular strain, a different strain could mean (or a sufficient mutation) that the previously working antibody treatment fails).. Overwhelming the medical system, the support system is how wars are waged.. the longer the harder to treat, the more expenses used, and the "enemy" thusly infected is functionally bled to death (overwhelmed in other words).

Those questions are being looked at in this thread.

[Bob]

CDC says we want you to be scared

Frieden says in a live presentation today, from Atlanta, that the Dallas patient has taken a turn for the worse.

"We hope that he survives.."

He also said that he wants health care workers to remain concerned, actually SCARED about this, so that they take this seriously.

He also says as long as West Africa is presenting cases, it is possible that Ebola will appear in the US. Any outbreak anywhere is a threat.

He also says, that intensive screening is the way to fix this spread, getting the outbreak stopped at the source points..

He also reiterates the US will NOT have a travel ban. (odd)

He is saying maybe there will be ENTRY SCREENING to see if something can be come up with.. He wants to have many agencies involved to increase the safety of the public.

CDC says it has sent 135 members to Africa to take a look at what's happening. He says West Africa is unique, and each country is unique. That the issues in 3 separate countries are different, politics is different (people are suspicious, tribal, and essentially out of touch with modern medicine practices)..

CDC's Frieden says he will brief President Obama on Monday morning. He says infection control methods (isolation and finding all contacts with the infection) are the solution to putting a stop to the outbreak, but that obviously does nothing to stop the infection in the people suffering from the malady.

Dr. Tom Frieden is the CDC director in Atlanta.

[Hervé]

To be confirmed... but:

Deadly Marburg hemorrhagic fever breaks out in Uganda (http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2014-10/05/content_33686011.htm)

October 5, 2014

The deadly Marburg hemorrhagic fever has broken out in Uganda after samples taken to the Uganda Virus Institute tested positive, a top government official said Sunday.
Elioda Tumwesigye, minister of state for health told reporters that one person has so far died and 80 others are being monitored in central Uganda and the western district of Kasese.

"The Ministry of Health would like to inform the country of a Marburg outbreak which has so far killed one person. Another person who has developed signs is being monitored," he said.

He said the index case died on Sept. 28 after developing signs of Marburg which was later confirmed by laboratory tests. The minister said the deceased's brother has also developed signs and is currently under isolation.

He added that all the people that had contact with them are being monitored.

The Marburg virus was last reported in Uganda in 2012.

According to the World Health Organization, Marburg is a severe and highly fatal disease caused by a virus from the same family as the one that causes Ebola hemorrhagic fever.

According to the global health body, the illness caused by Marburg virus begins abruptly, with severe headache and malaise.

Case fatality rates have varied greatly, from 25 percent in the initial laboratory-associated outbreak in 1967, to more than 80 percent in the Democratic Republic of Congo from 1998-2000, to even higher in the outbreak that began in Angola in late 2004.

Currently some West African states are facing a related disease- - Ebola -- which has left more than 3,000 people dead.

[Antagenet]

Video about ebola becoming more aerosolzed in winter. Is this true?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaNsXJfcTr4

[avid]

This whole scenario absolutely stinks - Bio-warfare lab in Sierra Leone, I was watching an RT documentary today about large land-grabs by major international corporates, via the World Trade Corporation and the vile corruption cases in the the third world, where lands of the ancestors were just bulldozed away from the legal owners, as in Mali, Niger, Thailand et al.... The big agri-business is killing the locals, they are starving, their forests and normal foods turned to sugar and rice for global exports, and only seasonal work for the ex-farmers. How convenient to wipe out the opposition to enable real-time access to the resources that corrupt politicians will allow to go forward now the folk are dead?!!! This is SO WRONG!!!

[avid]

Send Obama and all your dithering politicians to the front line to mop up - (putting their money where their mouths are) - I'm sure they'd survive as there are cures for some and nothing for others..... Roll up your sleeves Michelle (or whoever you are) and set a great example....!

[Sidney]

This is the perfect spot for this interview with Alfred Webre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DePBa_vf48o&feature=youtu.be

[Bob]

Uganda health ministry confirms Marburg virus outbreak - (possibly the parent virus to Ebola, originally discovered in 1967, has flared up on and off in Africa, and once in Marburg Germany when green monkeys were imported (http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2007/08/30/marburg/))

(Source (http://kfm.co.ug/health/another-marburg-outbreak-confirmed-in-uganda.html))

"The ministry of health has confirmed an outbreak of Marburg fever in the country following the death of a medical worker.

"This has been revealed by the Minister of State for Health Elioda Tumwesigye at a news conference held this afternoon at the Ministry Headquarters in Wandegeya.



http://www.ugandamission.net/aboutug/image/ugmap.jpg

"He says the victim who died on September 30th has only been identified as a 30 year old man recently recruited as a radiographer at Mengo hospital.

“8O suspected cases have been isolated, 38 are Mengo workers, 22 are from Mpigi Health Center Four, while 20 are in Mukunyu village in Kasese district where the deceased was buried” Dr. Tumwesigye explained.

"He added that one of them who had obvious symptoms has been referred the Virus Research Institute in Entebbe and the results are expected tomorrow.

"Marburg is a hemorrhagic fever whose symptoms typically begin abruptly within five to 10 days of infection with Marburg virus.

"Early signs and symptoms include: Fever, Severe headache, Joint and muscle aches, Chills and Weakness.

"Over time, symptoms become increasingly severe and may include; Nausea and vomiting, Diarrhea, Red eyes, Raised rash, Chest pain and cough, Stomach pain, Severe weight loss.
Others are bleeding, usually from the eyes, ears, nose and rectum

"The last reported case in Uganda was in 2013, when the Ministry of Health reported 5 laboratory-confirmed cases of Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever, including 3 cases from Agago District and 2 cases (1 death) from Wakiso District.

"Four deaths were reported earlier in 2012 in Luweero district."


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Historical outbreak locations:


http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/marburg/images/marburg-distribution-map.jpg

[Bob]

There is a discussion on the Airborne Potential of any transmission from sneezing or coughing..

see this forum link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=878023&viewfull=1#post878023

With Ebola, they are saying one has to get a virus particle onto a mucous membrane (typically 2-10 particles) to get infected.

Nasal passages, lungs are layered with mucous membranes..Here is a link that explains what a mucous membrane is and where they are located: http://www.answers.com/Q/What_are_mucous_membranes

CDC explains that MUCOUS membranes will pass the virus here: http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/ "When an infection does occur in humans, the virus can be spread in several ways to others. Ebola is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes in, for example, the eyes, nose, or mouth).."


Video about ebola becoming more aerosolzed in winter. Is this true?

[..]

The double-speak by the representatives "explaining" Ebola or other virus transmission is simply mind-boggling.. Looking at the video, one can see the droplets. The droplets come from the mucous and the saliva from the person.. The person expels explosively a cough or sneeze laden with particles.. One that close as shown in the video can inhale particles from the person coughing..

Those particles also can land on a surface and remain viable for a period of time - some people have said if the surface is cold up to 10 days, if very warm up to 2 days..

It is possible that the NBC cameraman contracted his exposure by spray particles, spilled off a surface being disinfected, or possibly contacted the virus particles from walking through infected liquids that were not deactivated with disinfectant.

[Bob]

This is the perfect spot for this interview with Alfred Webre
[..]

Hi Sidney as the video is almost an hour and 19 minutes, do you have a quick summary for folks prior to watching ? tnx. ---Bob

[Bob]

Just to reiterate perspective once again, with the Marburg and the Ebola-Zaire strains CDC says this stuff is not to be worked on, meaning virus particles in the environment of the workspace, without being inside of a BioSafety Lab grade IV containment..

Please read this page to get an understanding from the "horse's mouth" so to speak.. http://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dhcpp/vspb/index.html VSPB "Viral SPecial Pathogens Branch"

"Almost all of these viruses are classified as Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) pathogens and as such must be handled in special facilities designed to contain them safely. VSPB operates one of the world's few BSL-4 laboratories. In addition, VSPB provides technical and research/diagnostic materials to many international laboratories and collaborators. VSBP staff members are trained to respond to global disease outbreaks and provide assistance for disease detection and control measures."


CLASS IV biosafety lab - view of researcher wearing proper protective gear:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2881956-4x3-940x705.jpg

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View of Health Care Workers dealing with a class 4 pathogen, EBOLA in Africa - (luck and a prayer about not getting infected)


http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2014_31/594631/143107-brantly-jhc-1152_539f9f44c96eb9299c98c92eaf283fda.jpg

recall Dr. Brantly got infected (one of the zMapp treated survivors) yet he took all the "recommended" field "hospital" precautions given to him by the "experts"...

What's wrong with the two pictures? (Do as I SAY, not as I DO ? maybe??)

[Sidney]

This is the perfect spot for this interview with Alfred Webre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DePBa_vf48o&feature=youtu.be

Alfred goes into the history of human genocide, specifically in Africa and connecting many dots with regards to the current "false flag" (his words), meaning deliberate mass infecting of racial and non racial groups. Although the interview is a month or so old, I just listened to it for the first time, and I happen to resonate with his views on this subject matter highly involving vaccines, and the dis info that is surrounding the actual fatality of the ebola virus.

[Bob]

The Sacrificing of Thomas Duncan, why?

Mr. Duncan is not a doctor. Mr. Duncan apparently lied on his health exit forms to leave West Africa where he contracted Ebola..

Mr. Duncan tried to get help early, only to be turned away from a Dallas Texas Hospital..

So is he now going to be "sacrificed"?

"Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S., is not being treated with experimental medication, officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said today.

"Doctors treating Duncan fear that the experimental medication may worsen his condition, CDC Director Tom Frieden said. Duncan is instead only receiving supportive care.

"David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services, also said that Duncan's medical condition had worsened. Doctors downgraded his condition from serious to critical on Saturday.

"Duncan is being treated in an isolation unit at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital." (Source (http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-authorities-man-made-contact-ebola-patient/story?id=25976338))

THERE ARE multiple experimental treatments generally non-toxic compared to the massive issues he would be having with letting the disease "work its course"... It has been pointed out in this thread that some very effective treatments for less than 35$ cost (US) may work..

Professional doctor's malpractice again?

Or are they making a statement to others who try to beat the system, and escape to the US to try to get treatment?

What do you think? Is that Criminal behavior? Doctors NOT being compassionate, actually this being hypocritical about medicine and care for the sick or injured?

[Bob]

Duncan's fiance, Ms. Troh says being treated like a DOG.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/texas-ebola-case/story?id=25962123

Duncan's Partner Says She's Being Treated 'Like a Dog'

Troh told ABC News today that no one had updated her on Duncan's condition for two days.

"They are telling me nothing," she said.

"They are treating me like a dog. I have no idea how he is doing."

"Troh and her family will remain in quarantine for at least 21 days and were moved by Dallas government officials to an undisclosed location on Friday, where they would be able to walk around outside.

"Hospital officials were not immediately available to comment about her allegations."

"Louise Troh, the woman who traveled back from Liberia with Duncan and is referred to as his wife by relatives, told ABC News today she is frustrated with the lack of information on Duncan's condition.

"Troh and her family were removed from their apartment to an undisclosed location on Friday, where they will remain for the duration of their quarantine. While the family remains in quarantine, clean-up crews returned to the family's apartment today to continue sanitizing it.

"Including Troh and her family, health officials are monitoring about 50 people who may have had contact with Duncan, including 9 of those believed to be at "high risk" for exposure.

"At least one person is being monitored after traveling in the ambulance used to transport Duncan to the hospital last week, according to officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."


THIS SOUNDS very suspicious that the Hospital is intending to have the patient die..

IS there ANYWAY to contact Mr. Duncan's family and let them know of the experimental LOW COST treatments (as found to work in Liberia by a MD on patients) ? Seems with the people being held incommunicado at an undisclosed location (at gunpoint was one observation (http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/219661-ebola-patient-host-family-under-armed-quarantine), is that house arrest or protective custody?)... prevented from finding out, is not helping.

[SilentFeathers]

In the face that only the privileged get the magic potion.

[Bob]

In the face that only the privileged get the magic potion.


The system once again reveals itself - we should make no mistake understanding..

http://spaightwoodgalleries.com/Media/Old_Masters/Pencz/Pencz_Susanna_Elders_B27i_2.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

The system once again reveals itself - we should make no mistake understanding..
As you know Bob, but perhaps some readers don't, that etching is of Susanna and the Elders (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0019_0_19381.html).

[Bob]

The system once again reveals itself - we should make no mistake understanding..
As you know Bob, but perhaps some readers don't, that etching is of Susanna and the Elders (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0019_0_19381.html).

We can only assume, in the higher order of things, justice will prevail in rectifying this atrociousness, and the higher power will evoke an appropriate balance within "the system". ref: "..a young man named Daniel interrupts the proceedings, shouting that the elders should be questioned to prevent the death of an innocent." (more: http://www.usccb.org/bible/daniel/13)

[SilentFeathers]

The system once again reveals itself - we should make no mistake understanding..
As you know Bob, but perhaps some readers don't, that etching is of Susanna and the Elders (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0019_0_19381.html).

We can only assume, in the higher order of things, justice will prevail in rectifying this atrociousness, and the higher power will evoke an appropriate balance within "the system". ref: "..a young man named Daniel interrupts the proceedings, shouting that the elders should be questioned to prevent the death of an innocent." (more: http://www.usccb.org/bible/daniel/13)

Even those at the very bottom of the ladder of tyranny, that are in a somewhat routine of comfort to a small degree, will fight to keep those tyrants at the top in power....(just give them an Obamaphone and a daily MRE).

The only way in my opinion for justice to prevail, is to take away the Obamaphones and daily MRE's so to speak....a legitimate effort must be made, couch potatos get nowhere.....

ALSO:

It's amazing how they saved two doctors in Atlanta, another guy in Nebraska and now sending another journalist to Nebraska (looks to be all 4 white people.....but yet a black Liberian sits in a Dallas hospital in critical condition and getting worse, and rotting to death.......seems like in your face discrimination to me........only the privileged or people with connections seem to get the magic potion.

ADDED;

Hypocrisy has no bounds......


Thomas Eric Duncan (pictured), the man who contracted the deadly Ebola virus after traveling from Liberia to the United States, is now fighting for his life, with his condition escalating from serious to critical in a Dallas hospital. According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, despite his condition, Duncan will not be receiving the experimental drugs used to treat the raging virus, reports ABC News.
SEE ALSO: Crew Decontaminates Ebola Patient’s Apt
Duncan, who is currently at the Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, is not being given the experimental drug ZMapp because doctors fear it may actually worsen his already grave condition.
Still, those close to Duncan question the doctors’ decision to not give Duncan any drugs, especially in his condition, “I don’t understand why he is not getting the ZMapp, Joe Weeks, who lives with Duncan’s sister Mai, told ABC News.
SOURCE: http://news92fm.com/484373/us-ebola-patient-receives-no-drugs-listed-in-critical-condition

[Bob]

I've sent an email to Mr. Duncan's and Louise Troh's Church with the anti-viral reference that the Liberian doctor used. Of all things the contact information came from Bloomburg, Harry R. Weber in Dallas was the source of the article that provided contact information. Interesting.. how this is unfolding.

Update - JUST heard from local Dallas reporting contact: Mr. Duncan is critical but "stable" and is now receiving an experimental investigational medicine..

hmmm... interesting? wonder what changed?

[Bob]

Brincidofovir (CMX001) is an experimental antiviral drug being developed by Chimerix for the treatment of cytomegalovirus.

It also has activity against adenoviruses, BK virus and herpes simplex viruses, and preliminary tests have also shown it to have potential for the treatment of Ebola virus disease.

Brincidofovir is a prodrug of cidofovir.

According to NBC reporting sources, a sample of Mr. Duncan's blood was sent to the company who in-vitro (in the petri dish) added the substance and saw complete cessation of the virus.

Drug developer Chimerix said its experimental Ebola drug has been provided for potential use in patients, sending its shares up more than 9 percent in afternoon trading.

The drug, brincidofovir, received Emergency Investigational New Drug Applications (EINDA) from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the company said.

[SilentFeathers]

I just seen this article now....much double speak going on, one minute they say they are not giving him any drugs and the next minute they say they are?????? confused yet?


Thomas Eric Duncan got a drug called brincidofovir, made by North Carolina-based Chimerix. Doctors stress that they have no idea whether experimental drugs can help Ebola patients.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/dallas-ebola-patient-gets-experimental-drug-n219566

[Bob]

I just seen this article now....much double speak going on, one minute they say they are not giving him any drugs and the next minute they say they are?????? confused yet?


Thomas Eric Duncan got a drug called brincidofovir, made by North Carolina-based Chimerix. Doctors stress that they have no idea whether experimental drugs can help Ebola patients.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/dallas-ebola-patient-gets-experimental-drug-n219566

It's interesting both CDC and NIH said he would NOT receive any experimental drug(s)...

but possibly Mr. Duncan's family managed to get in contact with Chimerix. Or it could be a political foot-ball, public being really concerned about why is this person NOT being given a chance with something that could help, like the others had and possibly the News Cameraman (NBC) will get in Nebraska.

The treatment would have been allowed by the FDA, basically bypassing CDC and NIH.. politics maybe..

update: http://www.chimerix.com/ Chimerix

http://ir.chimerix.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=874647

October 6, 2014

Chimerix Announces Emergency Investigational New Drug Applications for Brincidofovir Authorized by FDA for Patients With Ebola Virus Disease

DURHAM, N.C., Oct. 6, 2014 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Chimerix, Inc., a biopharmaceutical company developing novel, oral antivirals in areas of high unmet medical need, today announced that brincidofovir has been provided for potential use in patients with Ebola Virus Disease. These requests were made by treating physicians.

Emergency Investigational New Drug Applications (EIND) were granted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

"Chimerix is committed to working with global health organizations and government agencies in the fight against the Ebola virus outbreak," said M. Michelle Berrey, M.D., M.P.H., President and Chief Executive Officer of Chimerix.

"Based on in vitro data from work conducted by the CDC and the National Institutes of Health suggesting brincidofovir's activity against Ebola, we are hopeful that brincidofovir may offer a potential treatment for Ebola Virus Disease during this outbreak.

Data collected over years of clinical development of brincidofovir have allowed us to progress this compound into Phase 3 programs for cytomegalovirus and adenovirus infections, and provided information on the safety and dosing of brincidofovir to allow it to be explored as a potential therapy for Ebola Virus Disease."

Chimerix is working closely with the FDA to finalize a clinical trial protocol early this week to assess the safety, tolerability, and efficacy of brincidofovir in patients who are confirmed to have an infection with the Ebola virus.

Testing at the Viral Special Pathogens Branch of the CDC and the NIH revealed in vitro (test tube) activity of brincidofovir against the Ebola virus that was similar to that seen in test tube assessments of brincidofovir against other viral diseases, such as adenovirus and smallpox.

Additional tests of brincidofovir in in vivo (animal) models of Ebola virus infection are currently underway.

Update: Jesse Jackson (http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/26723442/jesse-jackson-heading-to-dallas-to-help-ebola-patient) apparently feels it's because this fellow (Duncan) is an African American, the race card (is/was) being played, and with enough pressure for "saving face" the doctors then changed their mind to show how "compassionate" they really are...(snicker..) CDC director today 7th Oct in a live broadcast "update" explained how compassionate the doctors are... (hmm)..

The NBC free-lance cameraman being treated in Nebraska, is already receiving (with zero delay), the brincidofovir anti-viral.. No delays giving him that as it is now the "recommended" anti-viral treatment, since zMapp is not available..

No doubt this drug should have immediately been given to Mr. Duncan, but as CDC and NIH pointed out at the outset, Mr. DUNCAN WILL NOT RECEIVE said treatments..

Connecting some dots seems like a good way to understand more of the "political football" here in Mr. Duncan's case..

[avid]

To be or not to be - that is the reuters/MSM media question? Did he die and the MSM didn't want to spoil an event, or give themselves time to make even more mischief? The thot plickens yet again..., plus 'he' was denied new drugs, well HELLO, if you were a politician near there you would have the patient stuffed with the latest anti-ebola nonsense, and sent away in quarantine NOT in a big city!!! This whole thing is a vile rigmarole, and sadly someone is sacrificed to promote fear porn globally. Not like Sandy Hook where noone died, noone existed, and it's illegal to question it!!! Is this a drill? There was an inkling of an event promoted to disaster relief supply groups that there would be a hit in October, and the hospital involved had just such a meeting a month before the 'event'.

[SilentFeathers]

To be or not to be - that is the reuters/MSM media question? Did he die and the MSM didn't want to spoil an event, or give themselves time to make even more mischief? The thot plickens yet again..., plus 'he' was denied new drugs, well HELLO, if you were a politician near there you would have the patient stuffed with the latest anti-ebola nonsense, and sent away in quarantine NOT in a big city!!! This whole thing is a vile rigmarole, and sadly someone is sacrificed to promote fear porn globally. Not like Sandy Hook where noone died, noone existed, and it's illegal to question it!!! Is this a drill? There was an inkling of an event promoted to disaster relief supply groups that there would be a hit in October, and the hospital involved had just such a meeting a month before the 'event'.

He probably died this morning (or yesterday) and the only reason they are now saying he's getting experimental drugs is to ease the outrage when they announce later today (or tomorrow) that he has died.

[Roisin]

He's been in critical condition so it seems very unlikely that any experimental drug could help him now.

[Matisse]

First case just now reported here in Spain, (Madrid) They had brought back a priest and another person from Africa to be treated here, both of whom died. Now it has just been confirmed that one of the nurses treating them has been infected.
So far they have put now her husband and other medical staff in quarantine, 30 in total. What I wonder about is they say on one side it is a very dificult virus to get, being only transferable through direct contact with bodily fluids or blood,
so why are so many medical staff getting infected?

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/una-enfermera-que-atendio-misionero-garcia-viejo-madrid-contagiada-por-ebola-3578865?utm_source=sport.es&utm_medium=widget&utm_campaign=widget-portada-sport

[SilentFeathers]

Atlanta Airport, international hub.......sleeping at the wheel......

Lack of precautions for ebola.....

AjGqO-dZXSs

But don't worry, the CDC-Gov. will stop it in its tracks!!!! Sheesh, this is beyond ridiculous.

datqjyVmgME

ADDED:

....and just a reminder from the MH17 Ukraine crash

0zO64bUgQtc

[Bob]

First case just now reported here in Spain, (Madrid) They had brought back a priest and another person from Africa to be treated here, both of whom died. Now it has just been confirmed that one of the nurses treating them has been infected.
So far they have put now her husband and other medical staff in quarantine, 30 in total.

What I wonder about is they say on one side it is a very difficult virus to get, being only transferable through direct contact with bodily fluids or blood,
so why are so many medical staff getting infected?

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/una-enfermera-que-atendio-misionero-garcia-viejo-madrid-contagiada-por-ebola-3578865?utm_source=sport.es&utm_medium=widget&utm_campaign=widget-portada-sport

And that is EXACTLY the anomaly - how come? So hard to get but so many get it? I suspect the sneeze/cough is spreading the virus particles from the saliva/mucous membranes, earlier post last page in the thread discusses this in depth.. It's "virus particles IN the air", not "airborne virus" - pure word-game there (spin in other words...)

The nurse apparently in Spain has a longer development time for the virus..

SO we have about 4 compounds now that are NOT mono-clonal-antibodies, but are effective anti-viral substances which can be taken EARLY which may evoke 100% cure..

It is interesting/amazing how broad spectrum anti-viral the new Brincidofovir (CMX001) from Chimerix is..

Are the PEOPLE going to hear about these substances? Some are obtained over the internet even..

[Hervé]

Yet, apparently, in this case, it wasn't for lack of protection:

Spanish nurse tests positive for Ebola after treating victim in Madrid (http://rt.com/news/193600-spain-ebola-test-positive/)

Published time: October 06, 2014 17:53

Edited time: October 06, 2014 19:05
Get short URL (http://rt.com/news/193600-spain-ebola-test-positive/)


http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/2f/44/00/00/12.si.jpg
Doctors transfer Roman Catholic missionary Manuel Garcia Viejo who contracted the deadly Ebola virus, from Madrid's Torrejon air base to the Carlos III hospital upon their arrival in Spain. Photo released on September 22, 2014.(AFP Photo / Spanish Defence Ministry)

A nurse who treated two Ebola patients at a Madrid hospital has become infected with the disease herself, health officials said.

“Two tests were done and the two were positive,” a spokesman for the health department of the regional government of Madrid told AFP.

Spain’s Minister of Health, Ana Mato, says the authorities are working to distinguish the source of the disease’s contraction as strict controls were implemented to prevent Ebola’s spread. He added that there is no knowledge of any other cases.

[...]

Full article: http://rt.com/news/193600-spain-ebola-test-positive/

[Sophocles]

The first norwegian infected with ebola is now confirmed.

From reddit:

"Doctors Without Borders confirms that one of our organization’s Norwegian field workers in Sierra Leone has tested positive and has been diagnosed with bleeding fever ebola, confirms Anne Cecilie Kalteborn in MSF’s Norway branch to Norwegian media VG.

The Norwegian health worker is tonight being flown with an ambulance flight from the capital Sierra Leone. She will probably land in Norway Monday night or Tuesday night.

She was in Sierra Leone and is being flown to Norway for treatment, she wasn't in Norway and then discovered she had Ebola."

Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2ig9vi/norwegian_woman_infected_with_ebola/

[Sidney]

Atlanta Airport, international hub.......sleeping at the wheel......

Lack of precautions for ebola.....

AjGqO-dZXSs

But don't worry, the CDC-Gov. will stop it in its tracks!!!! Sheesh, this is beyond ridiculous.

datqjyVmgME

ADDED:

....and just a reminder from the MH17 Ukraine crash

0zO64bUgQtc

(regarding the airport video)
With all the time there has been to prepare airport personnel for this, I find these practices (or there lack of) appalling. All the over use of naked body scanners, and unlawful pat downs of the worst kind, for a whole bunch of BS, and now THIS. Seriously they have had months to drill this scenario many times over, and this seems awfully deliberate to me. Bumping this.. I believe that the SHTF is pretty much at our front door.

[Bill Ryan]

------

On Steve Quayle's 'Alerts' section, here:
http://stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1139
(The 'Alert' is intelligently well-written, but no sources are given)







Below is a list of countries that have confirmed cases of Ebola:


Every country in Africa
Spain
Italy
France
Germany
Poland
Greece
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Oman
Iran
Kuwait
Vietnam
Myanmar
India
Indonesia
Australia
China
Brazil
Venezuela
Mexico
United States
Canada

What you’re seeing here is the initial global footprint of the Ebola virus. It is most likely that each one of the above countries has more than one case; and, they are struggling to maintain the public’s confidence. We should see a second global wave of Ebola cases following a brief incubation period.

The secondary global outbreak will be under-reported, as well. Around the end of October/beginning of November, during the tertiary wave, it will become apparent this is a global pandemic that has spiraled completely out of control.

At this point, economies will start to falter, airline travel will decline rapidly, and governments around the world will blame each other for lack of truthfulness.

One may appropriately expect the spread of Ebola through the international community to look like the spread of Enterovirus-68 in the United States:


Initial outbreaks played down and under-reported.
Initial reporting suggests the government and health agencies are responding appropriately.
Spread has reached several states.
Number infected suggests it is completely out of control.
Confirmation that it is completely out of control.
Increase in morbidity and mortality.
Public panic ensues.

It is possible the spread of Ebola will burn through the population like the flu — both have similar infection mechanisms and life expectancies in the external environment. Let’s pray this assessment is completely wrong!

[Bob]

It was hypothesized that the news-camera-man being treated in Nebraska will receive the new treatment medication. It appears that is the case.

"Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan remains in critical but stable condition at a Texas hospital, officials said Tuesday. "He is on a ventilator and receiving kidney dialysis. His liver function, which declined over the weekend, has improved, but doctors caution that this could vary in coming days," Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas said in a statement. "He will continue to receive the investigational medication brincidofovir."

"Ashoka Mukpo, the freelance NBC camera operator who is being treated for Ebola at Nebraska Medical Center, is also getting brincidofovir, a twice-a-week pill that's been approved for experiment use in their cases. The drug's been tested against several other viruses, also. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and state health officials were due to hold a briefing later Tuesday."

(Source (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/coming-health-officials-share-latest-texas-ebola-case-n220381))

[Bob]

Coast Guard Sector Issues New Ebola Protocol - keeping an eye on who is on board the vessels coming from Countries

"One U.S. Coast Guard sector says it will contact ships that have recently been to Ebola-affected countries to ask whether passengers have symptoms of the virus before they’re allowed into port. It issued a bulletin to the maritime community in Long Island Sound, which includes parts of New York and Connecticut, on Monday.

"The bulletin describes protocols being put into place due to Ebola. A spokesman at Coast Guard headquarters in Washington says he's unaware of other sectors taking similar action.

"The Coast Guard says the policy applies to vessels that visited affected countries within their last five ports of call. The Obama administration is considering whether to institute extra screening at airports to check passengers coming from Ebola-stricken countries. It has said it won't halt travel from those countries.


Meanwhile CDC director explains "no worries" in a smiling sickly voice, having stopped once to use a tissue, during his current speech... He talked about Marburg saying gee, this virus doesn't have a movie made about it, and said ONLY one person died (there are 80 be monitored)...

The director explains, hey we have it all under control, no worries.. He says it's so hard to see what is actually is happening behind the lines, there is so much progress happening that the news just doesn't see or hear about...

He coughed again when he said well, you know we are helping hospitals understand about this - "hospital awareness" (cough) is what is happening.. (hmmm...)

He says, we know PEOPLE are eager for more information, and you know of course we are going to address that (we will announce further measures which will be taken, not alluding to "what")

He says, We won't do anything that will backfire, he glaringly says, We are compassionate and Will Do No Harm (snicker...)

(Source - live newsfeed of interview, and http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/coast-guard-sector-issues-new-ebola-protocol-n220386 )

PS - Madrid says they will kill the dog of the Nurse affected with Ebola...

Madrid's regional government says it's going to kill the pet dog of a Spanish woman who became infected with Ebola. Authorities said in a statement Tuesday that available scientific knowledge indicates there's a risk the dog could transmit the deadly virus to humans.

The Spanish nursing assistant became the first case of Ebola being transmitted outside of West Africa after she cared for a Spanish priest in Madrid who died of Ebola last month. She and her husband are now in quarantine.

The government said the dog, named Excalibur, would be euthanized in a way to avoid suffering and using bio-security measures that it did not specify. Its body will later be incinerated. The government had to get a court order for the euthanization over the family's objections.

[Bob]

EUROPE PAY ATTENTION to the words in this post please.. the messages from the officials involved is revealing.

So what happened, in Spain, where we saw (vids of) the amazing security transferring the patients (the two that died in Spain) into the hospital?

Well that was ON-CAMERA show apparently, the real events happening behind the scenes were LAPSES in protocol - failures to prevent adequate infection control using the Biolab IV recommended safety steps..

(Source (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain))

Having bought into the pablum, "no worries here, it's not able to be airborne...", the nurse simply looses perspective, following the "rules" her supervisors told her, use the substandard equipment - and ignore of the seriousness of the infection, the virus quantity that one could get, doesn't take much of it in one's mucous membranes (read lungs, throat, mouth) to get a toehold in the body... they ignored proper procedures of controlling dangerous wastes, (contaminated with bodily fluids) so many steps are are lax, and that stupidity allowed for potentially contaminating a lot of hospital staff.. AND those staff then go out into the world...

"Spanish nurse Ebola infection blamed on substandard gear and protocol lapse - Staff at Madrid’s Carlos III hospital say protective suits do not meet WHO standards as second nurse undergoes tests for virus"

"Health professionals in Madrid have blamed substandard equipment and a failure to follow protocol for the first case of Ebola to be contracted outside west Africa.

"Health authorities announced on Monday that a Spanish nurse at Madrid’s Carlos III hospital who treated a patient repatriated from Sierra Leone had twice tested positive for Ebola.

"Her husband had also been admitted to hospital and was in isolation, and a second nurse from the same team that treated both repatriated Ebola victims was also being tested. In this case, the nurse contacted the authorities on Monday complaining of a fever. She was in isolation in the Carlos III Hospital while authorities waited for the test results, a spokesperson for the Madrid regional government said.

"A third person, a man recently arrived from Nigeria, was also under quarantine in Madrid but tested negative for Ebola in his first test.

"Health authorities said they were monitoring more than 50 possible contacts of the nurse.

"Staff at the hospital where she worked told El País that the protective suits they were given did not meet World Health Organisation (WHO) standards, which specify that suits must be impermeable and include breathing apparatus. Staff also pointed to latex gloves secured with adhesive tape as an example of how the suits were not impermeable and noted that they did not have their own breathing equipment.

"The nurse was part of a team attending to missionary Manuel García Viejo, 69, who died four days after being brought to Carlos III hospital on 20 September.

"The same team, including the nurse, also treated missionary Miguel Pajares, 75, who was repatriated from Liberia in August and died five days later.

"Staff at the hospital said waste from the rooms of both patients was carried out in the same elevator used by all personnel and, in the case of the second patient, the hospital was not evacuated.

"The European commission said on Tuesday it had written to the Spanish health minister “to obtain some clarification” on how the nurse had become infected when all EU member states were supposed to have taken measures to prevent transmission.

“There is obviously a problem somewhere,” the commission spokesman Frédéric Vincent said.

"Spanish health authorities have said that professionals treating Ebola patients in Spain always follow WHO protocols (apparently disinformation). The nurse would have entered García Viejo’s room just twice, said Antonio Alemany, from the regional government of Madrid, both times wearing protective equipment. (substandard equipment)

“We don’t know yet what failed,” Alemany said. “We are investigating the mechanism of infection.”

"The regional director of the WHO in Europe said Ebola would “most likely” spread but the continent was well prepared to control it. (continent?? well prepared when they can't understand how to get and use a proper bioprotection suit, and treat wastes properly??)

"Zsuzsanna Jakab told Reuters European health workers tasked with caring for the patients, as well as their families and close contacts, were most at risk of becoming infected.

“It will happen. But the most important thing in our view is that Europe is still at low risk and that the western part of the European region particularly is the best prepared in the world to respond to viral haemorrhagic fevers including Ebola,” she said. (EUROPE? thought this was JUST MADRID...)

"The nurse had alerted the ministry of a slight fever on 30 September and been checked into a hospital in Alcorcón, on the outskirts of Madrid, with a high fever on Monday. She was transferred to Carlos III hospital early on Tuesday morning.

"El Mundo reported that it was the nurse who asked to be tested for Ebola, having to insist repeatedly on being tested before it was done on Monday. (the nurse is worried, and officials REPEATEDLY IGNORE (poo poo) that something may be wrong... !!)

"While staff at the Alcorcón hospital were waiting for the test results, the nurse remained in a bed in the emergency room, separated only by curtains from other patients, hospital staff told El Mundo. Their version of events clashes with that of health authorities, who have said the patient was isolated from the first moment. (THIS IS INSANITY !! class 4 biolab recommended procedure says ISOLATE IMMEDIATELY, don't sit around in public basically putting at risk everyone - oh that's right "it is not airborne, no worries...")

"The woman (nurse) was on holiday at an unknown location when she began showing symptoms.

“We are drawing up a list of all the people she may have been in contact with, including with health professionals at the Alcorcón hospital,” said Alemany, estimating that more than 30 people were being monitored for any sign of symptoms."

[Bob]

He's been in critical condition so it seems very unlikely that any experimental drug could help him now.

After receiving the brincidofovir antiviral, today this afternoon a report from the hospital in Dallas is saying that his condition is improving, that liver function is improving, his blood pressure is back up and he no longer has a fever.. Pretty amazing really, that this antiviral is so extremely potent, every other day a small microgram dose is required...

That being the case, Duncan was a LATE case.. All other cases tend to be early cases, and JUST after the virus presents with immune system overwhelm, then the treatment substance is started.. Especially with the mono-clonal anti-body treatment zMapp, needing to present to have sufficient virus, then treat to get the immune system to start rapidly attacking....

With the brincidofovir and a few of the other anti-viral substances, they interfere with the virus' ability to spread.. SO the body then if it has ANY immune system ability left goes in for the clean-up efforts.. Again controlling massive cytokine flooding (organ edema, bursting organs, blood vessels) has to be addressed as well as organ failure.. HOW much kidney and liver damage can be tolerated before it becomes impossible to recover from the onslaught of the infection..

It is possible looking at the cold "experimenter mindset" of biolab weapons developers, that in Duncan's case, he was an ideal candidate for seeing if after a long period of infection, COULD something bring him back from the brink... maybe.. if he survives, and the studies about what supportive treatments were given, such as forced breathing ventilator, steroids, and dialysis, and this drug, that the powers that be now have an effective very important TREATMENT that can be mass produced to fight biowarfare. What they will be monitoring for is brain and heart damage primarily, to see what level of function will remain, this late in the infection stage. Then how long will he need dialysis after-the-fact.. The liver will most likely regenerate, possibly heart function will be damaged, or lung function.. to be seen... as this saga unfolds...

EDIT UPDATE: Thomas Duncan passed away in Dallas, Wednesday morning 8 October 2014, with the hospital reporting "complications" being the overlying reasons.. It is quite possible that the brincidofovir drug did work extremely well, however massive subsequent organ damage which happens with the infection plus a severe bacteria infection in multiple organs was the final overload. Being on dialysis is an issue as well as being sedated for quite some time and being on a ventilator, having the machine breathing for the patient..

[TargeT]

I've given this topic about ZERO energy, so I could be very wrong, but the little looking that I did caused me to post this dissenting view on another thread: ptw- The Simpsons and Ebola -- Post #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75708-ptw-The-Simpsons-and-Ebola&p=885975&viewfull=1#post885975)

[Bob]

'The CDC came yesterday. They said I can go back to work but I do not know what I will do. I will not go back yet.'


It didn't take a 21 day wait for her to be told, go out and have contact with the public.

"The stepdaughter of Texas Ebola victim, Thomas Duncan, who called 911 and rode in the ambulance with the man she calls 'Daddy' has been told she can return to work, MailOnline can reveal.

Nursing assistant Youngor Jallah, 35, has been in 'quarantine' in her small Dallas apartment along with her husband, Aaron Yah, 43, and their four children ages 2 to 11 since Thomas Duncan's devastating diagnosis last Monday.

"MailOnline has reported that Mr Yah, also a nursing assistant, had been told he could return to work at the end of last week."


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/06/1412620737958_wps_22_Youngor_Jallah_facebook.jpg

Considering the nature of the nurses ill in Madrid, to see this happening makes one wonder, just what is up? One hand not knowing what the other is doing?

(Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782694/Ebola-victim-s-stepdaughter-took-hospital-vomiting-wildly-given-clear-return-work-nursing-assitant.html))

One can do a web-search for additional articles on this, some are videos. ( search (https://www.google.com/search?q=duncan%27s+stepdaughter+response&oq=duncan%27s+stepdaughter+response) )

[Bob]

Israel agrees the seriousness of the event in West Africa

(Source (http://www.sierraexpressmedia.com/?p=70763))

Multiple countries have been sending aid (albeit not enough just yet) as they realize the seriousness of the events transpiring in West Africa (and a potential now exists in Madrid Spain, and Norway for at least caution in monitoring patients with diagnosis of Ebola)..

State of Israel to send in doctors and drugs to fight Ebola




A consignment of medical drugs, equipment and Doctors from the State of Israel is expected to arrive soon in Sierra Leone as part of the Government of Israel’s contribution in helping to fight the deadly Ebola virus outbreak.

This was disclosed to Sierra Leone’s Ambassador to Senegal H.E Ambassador Khadijatu Bassir (in photo) by the Israeli Ambassador in Senegal.

Following, Government’s appeal to the International Community for financial and other logistical support in the fight against the outbreak of the Ebola virus, the Government of the State of Israel was approached by Ambassador Khadijatu Bassir through its Ambassador in Dakar Senegal for the donation of drugs and other medical equipments.

After the meeting between the two Ambassadors that was described as fruitful, a list of required medical items for the treatment of the disease was requested by the Israeli Ambassador and urgently forwarded to Israel for his Government’s attention and action.

Among what Ambassador Bassir told her counterpart was that ‘The deadly Ebola virus is now part of us and therefore it must go and be eradicated by all means possible’

The authorities in Israel has now through its Ambassador in Senegal reliably informed the Sierra Leone Mission in Senegal, that a consignment of medical drugs and Doctors are expected to land in Freetown shortly to help in the fight against the Ebola virus that has become an alarming International emergency.

On behalf of the Government and people of Sierra Leone Ambassador Bassir expressed her appreciation and gratitude to the Government and kind people of the State of Israel for the gesture, which she described as ‘sharing the pains and suffering of the people and contributing to the cause of humanity’.

[sheme]

So is this virus targeting African decent individuals, I noticed that a Red haired doctor from England was working in Africa on the Ebola patients - he gave an interview on the BBC news this Pm. Just makes me wonder how racist this virus is.

[Bob]

Why pay attention to the brincidofovir antiviral?

"Why Everyone Has A Stake In The Chimerix Drug Offered To Josh Hardy" is how the Forbes news article starts. Pay attention to the mentions of infections, particularly cytomegalovirus.. connect those dots..

Way back in March, this year, a young patient was dying - a little known biochemical company with a novel antiviral treatment said maybe it can help, their CMX001 product, also known as brincidofovir.. this company's product could be the first line of treatment, something in a very small oral dose, to control many viruses..

Who would have thought, it doesn't take billions to save lives... Young Mr. Hardy is one of hundreds, if not thousands, of patients who might benefit from this drug.

Here is a large extract from that article created by FORBES - it is a good read to track how this substance came into being, and how it was looked at as a bio-defence tool.


In the late 1990’s, Dr. Hostetler was approached by program officials from the Antiviral Branch of the National Institute on Allergy and Infectious Diseases for help in improving an antiviral drug called cidofovir.

Cidofovir had been sold by Gilead Biosciences as an intravenously administered antiviral drug as Vistide® and was approved to treat cytomegalovirus infections of the eye, called CMV retinitis.

The majority of the population is already infected with CMV but it only becomes a problem when the immune system is suppressed, such as in HIV/AIDS or with the immunosuppression regimen used for a hematopoietic bone marrow transplant.

But cidofovir has activity against all five families of double-stranded DNA virus that cause human disease and death – including smallpox variola virus, herpesviruses, polyomaviruses, and adenovirus, the one currently afflicting young Joshua Hardy. (and now ebola)

As part of our nation’s biodefense program, cidofovir emerged as one of the best drugs to use in the event of a terrorist attack with the now-eradicated smallpox, or variola virus (smallpox).

But a drug that would need to be stockpiled and then quickly distributed requires some special characteristics. It should be active when taken orally as a pill or capsule, have few side effects, be stable under long storage conditions, and have effectiveness even in people who might have faulty immune systems.

Among the problems with cidofovir is that 1) it couldn’t be given by mouth and had to be injected continuously to be effective and 2) it could damage the kidneys if not given under careful medical supervision and the use of other drugs. But it was the best choice we had at the time because it worked against many types of viruses that could be used as bioterrorism agents.

Hostetler says that NIAID officials were aware of his previous work on making antiviral nucleoside drugs more orally bioavailable to the body. If he was willing to use some of his chemical know-how to make cidofovir a better agent against smallpox, they were willing to give his laboratory (ONLY) $100,000 to try.

(not the hundreds of millions given to Teckmira, and the zMapp people)


What’s the difference between cidofovir and CMX001?

Dr. Hostetler is a medical doctor – a clinical endocrinologist by training – but was fortunate to have in his lab a “card-carrying” synthetic chemist named Jim Beadle. With Jim and others in the group, the Hostetler team put different lengths of fatty acids, or lipids, onto cidofovir. The idea was that the special nature of the lipid would be recognized by the intestine and other cells as normal, thereby tagging the drug for absorption into the bloodstream.

The very first cidofovir relative that they made was CMX001 – the lipid attached to it resembled a natural one called lysophosphatidylcholine, or LPC. This makes CMX001 what’s called a prodrug of cidofovir: After sneaking into cells, the lipid would be clipped off and liberate cidofovir to stop viruses form reproducing in other cells.

Well, the approach worked – the lipid attachment had two immediate benefits. First, it increased the antiviral effect by 40 to 400 times that of cidofovir. Second, oral CMX001 was taken up into the bloodstream of animals – and later, humans – more than 50 times better than cidofovir.

But didn’t that just make CMX001 even more toxic than cidofovir to the kidney or our other cells?

Hostetler noted that another advantage of adding this lipid was that it neutralized a chemical charge on the cidofovir molecule that caused the drug to concentrate in the kidney via a pump that we normally use to rid ourselves of certain acidic substances. Since CMX001 wasn’t used by this pump, it didn’t seem to concentrate in the kidney like cidofovir does. That’s a good thing.

But researchers don’t fully understand why getting more of the drug into all of our cells doesn’t cause other problems for CMX001. The cidofovir that’s liberated from CMX001 gets activated by the cell to a form that can inhibit DNA synthesis. One might think that would attack any rapidly growing cell in the body, such as bone marrow cells. But earlier studies suggest that cidofovir is eight to 600 times better at inhibiting viral DNA polymerases – the enzymes that replicate the virus’s DNA – than the DNA polymerases of our human cells.


So that’s one of the major reasons that CMX001 is still being investigated for its safety profile in FDA-required clinical studies. And that’s where people should still look cautiously at CMX001 in that it may not be “a miracle cure” for every patient.

Columbia University virologist, Dr. Vincent Racaniello addressed these concerns in an email message today saying, “The original drug [cidofovir] is toxic because it inhibits cell DNA synthesis; since the modified compound more effectively gets into cells, it should be more toxic. However I understand it might have a better safety profile which would not be my initial prediction.”

Hostetler also didn’t have a complete answer, although he noted that the lab and David Evans at Edmonton looked at how the drug gets incorporated into the virus’s DNA versus human DNA. Perhaps the viral DNA damage cannot be repaired as easily as the human DNA damage. We do know that cidofovir (in its activated, diphosphate form) does inhibit CMV’s viral DNA polymerase about eight times more effectively than human DNA polymerase alpha. I’m certain that researchers will have to come back to this question.

What did Dr. Hostetler do with CMX001 next?

Hostetler said that his institution, the University of California at San Diego, sponsored their patent application and attempted to outlicense the compound to 30 or so companies without success. Dr. Hostetler established Chimerix to continue developing this drug and other lipid-antiviral drug therapies.

Dr. Hostetler also credits Dr. Earl Kern, a now retired professor from the University of Alabama at Birmingham, for doing many of the first animal experiments with this and other related compounds. Dr. Kern was supported by NIAID to run their Collaborative Antiviral Drug Testing Program.

Kern’s lab also discovered the antiviral activity of CMX001 against adenovirus.

Other major collaborators were Dr. Mark Buller at the Saint Louis University Health Sciences Center and Dr. John Huggins at USAMRIID.


While CMX001 has been Chimerix’s baby up through this day, Chimerix granted a worldwide license to Merck for CMX157, the anti-HIV drug tenofovir conjugated to the same lipid used on CMX001.

So why isn’t CMX001 already approved by the FDA?

Well, so far, it’s only been fully tested up to a Phase 2 trial for safety and effectiveness in patients with CMV infections. The results of that study were published in the New England Journal of Medicine in September, 2013.

And across all clinical work with the drug, just over 900 people have ever received it.

In the NEJM study, 230 bone marrow transplant patients were randomized to a placebo group or one of five different CMX001 dose groups. The drug significantly reduced CMV events at one of the dose levels and prevented the virus from making its DNA at several of the dose levels. The dose-limiting toxicity was diarrhea that was believed due to gastrointestinal graft-versus-host-disease and could be managed by reducing the dose.

But – here’s where drug regulators and drug company investigators worry most – these patients are already seriously ill. Eight percent of the patients in the placebo group did not survive (5 of 59). And in all but one of the CMX001 groups, eight to 13 percent of the patients did not survive despite the positive outcomes in many of the others.

Subsequent studies by Chimerix have been reported at clinical research meetings but not yet published. A February 28, 2014 press release describes their presentations on trials of CMX001 in pediatric and adult immunocompromised patients with asymptomatic adenovirus infections and another on overall safety in pediatric populations.

The work from the New England Journal of Medicine paper has now fueled a 40-center, Phase 3 trial, called SUPPRESS, in which prevention of CMV infections in 450 hematopoietic cell transplant patients will be studied. The company states, “Data from SUPPRESS are anticipated in mid-2015 and, if positive, may support Accelerated Approval of brincidofovir for the prevention of CMV infection.”


So, what’s the harm of making CMX001 available to Joshua Hardy?

We know less about its effectiveness against adenovirus than CMV. But the trial Chimerix is now doing is to assess precisely that: It’s an open-label study of 20 patients with adenoviral infection. No placebo group. We will certainly learn more about treating adenovirus because of the determination of the Hardy family and the cooperation of the FDA with Chimerix.

As a parent of a child slightly older than Josh, my stomach churns to even think about the possibilities with such a seriously ill boy.

* * *

But will the outcome of his specific case influence how the public views this drug and, ultimately, regulatory review committees deciding on its approval for larger populations?

In a presentation Chimerix officials made at a JP Morgan conference in January, they noted that the initial market for brincidofovir would be for patients with either hematopoietic cell transplants or solid organ transplants. In the US, that’s a total of 50,000 people per year, plus another 55,000 patients in the European Union.

On one hand, you could argue that the company wants to be careful with CMX001 to make sure it gets to that market. More altruistically, one could also fear that a high-profile treatment failure with CMX001 might compromise the ultimate accessibility of the drug to these 105,000 future patients, annually.

But I’m thinking that the stakes riding on CMX001 are even greater.


Remember long back to the beginning of this piece: The original reason that CMX001 was developed was as a potential bioterrorism agent that could be stockpiled and widely-distributed in the event of a worst case scenario.

While some might not think about the gravity of such a scenario today, put yourself back in the mindset immediately following the 2001 U.S. terrorist attacks.

If you’re of the scientific mind that CMX001 might be essential for national security, public perception of its safety and efficacy might transcend that of any of the most gripping and heart-wrenching personal stories.


"A small biotechnology company agreed yesterday to provide their experimental, antiviral drug for the treatment of a seven-year-old Virginia boy, Joshua Hardy, who is currently suffering from a life-threatening adenovirus infection acquired during his cancer treatment at St. Jude Children’s Hospital.

"The company, North Carolina-based Chimerix, had originally declined a request by the Hardy family to provide the drug, known as CMX001 or brincidofovir, under the “compassionate use” provision for unapproved drugs.

"In the program known more correctly as “expanded access to investigational drugs outside of a clinical trial,” the FDA permits companies on a case-by-case basis to offer an investigational drug to individuals who have an immediately life-threatening condition where no other therapy currently exists.

"Up until two years ago, the company had such a formal program. But the number of requests received – and filled – were understandably compromising the rate at which normal company operations could proceed to meet FDA requirements for the drug’s continued testing and approval. Unlike large, international biopharmaceutical companies, Chimerix has fewer than 50 employees."

And that is the story behind this new anti-viral (which is not so new but simply NOT being talked about for obvious bioweapons reasons..)

This company has been paying attention as has the rest of the informed medical community concerned about bioweapons. Are they these viruses real? Lots of people in the viral field feel the viral diseases are real and have bioweapons capability; to the point of committing substantial resources to develop effective drugs that can stop these viruses, fast and safely with minimal dosing, and able to be given in the field (not requiring hospitalization).. those qualifications are ideal for an army fighting a bio-war. IT is even more useful for humanitarian solutions to many viral infections worldwide, from Measles to now Ebola.

These substance need to be used, fast, and there is so much data being derived.. And in this case, the substance is readily manufactured, at low cost.

(Source (http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/03/12/why-everyone-has-a-stake-in-the-chimerix-drug-offered-to-josh-hardy-cmx001-brincidofovir/))

cytomegalovirus - Cytomegalovirus is a viral genus of the viral family known as Herpesviridae or herpesviruses - it has been documented as a virus present during cancers and tends to affect middle aged people at times (New England Journal of Medicine (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc1302145)).

CMV is related to the viruses that cause chickenpox and infectious mononucleosis (mono). It could also be one of the "smoking guns" with people who develop cancers, during a period of immunity compromise (numerous viruses make a point of creating immunity attack) - possibly it happens from a combination of a virus (generally of the herpes type), a fungus and a bacteria - Cytomegalovirus (CMV) DNA and proteins are expressed in several types of human cancers and metastases but not in healthy surrounding tissues, suggesting a possible role for the virus in the cancer.

CMV acute Symptoms

Enlarged lymph nodes, especially in the neck
Fever
Fatigue
Loss of appetite
Malaise
Muscle aches
Rash
Sore throat


Less common symptoms include:

Chest pain
Cough
Headache
Hives
Irregular heart beat
Jaundice
Neck stiffness
Rapid heart rate
Sensitivity to light
Shortness of breath
Swollen spleen and liver


sound familiar?

The weakness, extreme tiredness can linger up to 3 months after apparent "recovery". Sound familiar?

Possible Complications

Throat infection is the most common complication. Rare complications include:
Colitis
Guillain-Barré syndrome
Neurologic complications
Pericarditis or myocarditis
Pneumonia
Rupture of spleen


Are folks having the 'symptoms' listed above experiencing CMV? sure seems such could be looked at more closely.

AND again then, as the opening statement said, this substance could be a solution to a LOT of viral maladies people are experiencing.. if it can put a serious crimp in the virus spread in Hemorrhagic Fevers, we have a blessing here, needing more review. And fast.

[Bob]

So is this virus targeting African decent individuals, I noticed that a Red haired doctor from England was working in Africa on the Ebola patients - he gave an interview on the BBC news this Pm. Just makes me wonder how racist this virus is.

Interesting really, one of the earlier posts mentioned that with Sickle Cell anemia, that the infection in Malaria has a harder time dealing with those who have the sickle cell phenomenon. Some can call that a "defect", Sickle cell anemia... but it could have come from a natural form of survival, those surviving the malaria have the gene issue... it was noted that malaria effects more strongly those cells which don't have the sickle cell issue..

I haven't yet done a study to see survivor statistics, who has naturally survived, what the gene structure is like. As historical reports have said these viral diseases (some of their own DNA) are somewhat incorporated into the DNA of primates, (as "junk gene codes"), does that lead to a preponderance for greater susceptibility (those with the virus dna in their genes are a target), or is it just the opposite? This is part of why studying viruses and how they have helped transform life on the planet is interesting..

ref: malaria and sickle cell anemia - LINK HERE (http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Malaria_Resistance_and_Sickle_Cell_Trait) - http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Malaria_Resistance_and_Sickle_Cell_Trait

"Sickle cell trait has been observed in regions where malaria is common for over 50 years and has since become renowned for its perplexing ability to protect its carrier from malaria. More recently, researchers have began to make progress on understanding the mechanisms that create resistance to this lethal infection."

"Malaria is caused by parasites of the genus Plasmodium. The anopheles mosquito transmits the disease through its saliva, but it must have first received the Plasmodium parasite from an infected human from which it took blood. Malaria can be transmitted without anopheles mosquitoes if blood is somehow transported from an infected human to someone else. Some possible methods of transmission include, but are not limited to, blood transfusions, organ transplants, sharing needles, and from mother to child during pregnancy."

references - genome, viruses - feeds -

http://www.virology.ws/tag/genome/feed/

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1001191

"Our findings establish that genetic material derived from all known viral genome types and replication strategies can enter the animal germ line, greatly broadening the scope of paleovirological studies and indicating a more significant evolutionary role for gene flow from virus to animal genomes than has previously been recognized."

[Bob]

No Travel Ban in Israel (yet) to and from the West African Countries

Jerusalem Post reporting - (Source (http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Health/Jerusalem-boosts-efforts-to-find-visitors-from-Ebola-affected-areas-378231))

Concern about the Ebola virus is REAL in Israel.. Israel considers the outbreak real and is paying attention.

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened an interministerial meeting on the issue in his Jerusalem office on Monday where it was decided to increase efforts to locate people entering Israel from three African countries hit hard by the disease: Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone.

"The Foreign Ministry and the Health Ministry have warned about the health risks involved in traveling to those countries and advised them to avoid travel there.

"Health Minister Yael German, Transportation Minister Israel Katz, Deputy Interior Minister Faina Kirschenbaum and representatives from the Foreign Ministry, the Israel Police and the Airports Authority took part in the meeting aimed to discuss Israel’s preparedness in dealing with the virus.

"Foreign Ministry Director- General Nissim Ben-Shetrit briefed the meeting on Israel’s recent decision to send three mobile emergency clinics to the region hit by the epidemic to help fight its spread."

Meanwhile, US federal officials and airlines are discussing whether airports should screen passengers to identify people who might have Ebola, but the White House on Monday said a ban on travel from West African countries would slow the fight against the virus.

(This is odd the behaviour to not perform INCOMING travel scrutiny.. No problem with OUTGOING to transport supplies to the West African countries, but the doublespeak SPIN from the US health agencies, saying a travel ban would hinder outgoing supplies is perplexing.. Numerous Congress people have said as well as numerous people in surveys, that an INCOMING travel ban makes sense, or in the minimum very close screening as has South Africa established)..


US Response
“What we’re looking to do is review these screening measures,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters at a daily briefing.

But officials did not want to impede transport systems used to send supplies and personnel to West Africa to fight Ebola, he said.

(An INCOMING ban would not hinder or impede transport.... GETTING CLEARANCE, such as done in any quarantine is commonplace. NOBODY allows animals to be imported for instance when there is an infection in the herd.. TO allow IMPORTING of humans potentially infected is mind boggling.. why the attitude.. No problem EXPORTING supplies obviously, but WHY NOT many officials in Congress have said, WHY NOT scrutinize close those coming in from an area with a lethal infection??)


Airlines for America, a trade group for the airline industry, separately said it would meet health and safety officials later Monday to discuss whether additional screenings could improve on measures already in place.

People leaving Ebola-affected countries are asked to fill out a questionnaire on whether they have symptoms such as a high fever and whether or not they have had any contact with someone who was diagnosed with Ebola.

(as evidenced by Thomas Duncan the patient in Dallas, falsifying that document happens. It is JOKE to assume that reporting will be accurate, or that the potential traveler has not taken a fever reducing drug prior to getting to the airport.. It has been reported Ibuprofen a common fever reducer will reduce the obvious symptoms.. thereby defeating temperature screening)

In Liberia, at least, they are scanned for fever. (hmmmmm)

US authorities and the public are on alert following the first diagnosis of Ebola in the country just over a week ago, raising concerns that the worst Ebola epidemic on record could spread from West Africa.

Liberian traveler Thomas Eric Duncan is fighting for his life in a Dallas hospital, which initially sent him away with antibiotics, only to have him return two days later in an ambulance.

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital said in a statement that Duncan remains in critical condition “and is now receiving an investigational medication, brincidofovir, for Ebola Virus Disease.”

Brincidofovir was developed by Chimerix Inc.

American authorities say they are confident the disease can be contained in the country, while steps are being taken to ramp up the response to Ebola at its source in West Africa.

The head of the Texas team, Dr. Brett Giroir, said: “We live in an interconnected world, where an outbreak anywhere is a risk everywhere.”

[Bob]

PS - I do want to thank Main Stream Media (MSM) for paying attention to this thread. Even though I am not a reporter working for some network, I am doing my best to find accurate data from the myriad of reports traveling across the Internet... Many datum are laced with "conspiracy" flavored information - many data reveal some agenda in the reporting. Some though are extremely objective and accurate with minimal bias. I thank you for providing objectivity.

I am trying my best to find objectivity for all of us. This is a complicated subject, and goes deep into bioweapons programs established in the '60s. You have seen me repeatedly try to connect the dots, where have these various outbreaks originated - simply an infection caught from a natural vector harboring the viruses? (i.e. bats for instance)... Some have suggested possibly the virus can be harboured in canines.. (see the news reports about a dog in Spain being put down because of a potential to spread the virus Ebola...)..

I commend you folks very much for paying attention to Project Avalon. We are trying, may of us to maintain a high signal to noise ratio.. I am trying here in this thread and others to get us the best data, filtered as much as possible from a scientific and a common sense approach.

I appreciate you very much using the quotes and data from this thread in your news reports. I think it is helping with a fresh perspective, of objectivity and common sense, devoid of emotional sensationalism..

Very well done - thank you..

[Bob]

Thank you david.willman@latimes.com for paying attention to the issues at hand. Again, highly objective and seeing the FACTS behind what is happening with the Ebola situation..

from your article in LA Times - here are some relevant quotes.. The readers are offered the opportunity to go to the page for the rest of the details. Thank you David.

(See Source (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=2))

"Peters, whose CDC team studied cases from 27 households that emerged during a 1995 Ebola outbreak in Democratic Republic of Congo, said that while most could be attributed to contact with infected late-stage patients or their bodily fluids, "some" infections may have occurred via "aerosol transmission."

"Skinner of the CDC, who cited the Peters-led study as the most extensive of Ebola's transmissibility, said that while the evidence "is really overwhelming" that people are most at risk when they touch either those who are sick or such a person's vomit, blood or diarrhea, "we can never say never" about spread through close-range coughing or sneezing.

"I'm not going to sit here and say that if a person who is highly viremic … were to sneeze or cough right in the face of somebody who wasn't protected, that we wouldn't have a transmission," Skinner said."

"Individuals who have flown recently from one or more of the affected countries suggested that travelers could easily subvert the screening procedures — and might have incentive to do so: Compared with the depleted medical resources in the West African countries of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, the prospect of hospital care in the U.S. may offer an Ebola-exposed person the only chance to survive.

U.S. To Increase Airport Screening For Ebola

"The deteriorating conditions in Africa make it more likely additional cases of Ebola will appear in the United States and officials are pushing for increased screenings at airports.

"A person could pass body temperature checks performed at the airports by taking ibuprofen or any common analgesic. And prospective passengers have much to fear from identifying themselves as sick, said Kim Beer, a resident of Freetown, the capital of Sierra Leone, who is working to get medical supplies into the country to cope with Ebola.

"It is highly unlikely that someone would acknowledge having a fever, or simply feeling unwell," Beer said via email. "Not only will they probably not get on the flight — they may even be taken to/required to go to a 'holding facility' where they would have to stay for days until it is confirmed that it is not caused by Ebola. That is just about the last place one would want to go."

[Bob]

Spain is err'ing on the cautious side at this point..

WHY? if there is nothing to see here, why are they taking ANY precautions?

Why indeed..


"Four hospitalized in Spain after first Ebola transmission outside Africa" is how the article starts (Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/07/us-spain-ebola-husband-idUSKCN0HW0MU20141007))

"(Reuters) - Four people have been hospitalized in Spain to try to stem the spread of Ebola after a Spanish nurse became the first person in the world known to have contracted the virus outside of Africa, health authorities said on Tuesday.

"The nurse, who tested positive for the virus on Monday, her husband, who is showing no symptoms of the disease, and two other people are being closely monitored in hospital, health officials told a news conference in Madrid."

In addition, the family's dog is to be killed as a precaution. (there has been a worry that canines, who have been digging up buried bodies in West Africa could possibly be carriers of the Filovirus, there is an earlier post in this thread that points out that concern)

"One of those hospitalized is a health worker who has diarrhea but no fever. The other is a Spaniard who traveled from Nigeria, said Rafael Perez-Santamaria, head of the Carlos III Hospital where the infected nurse treated two Spanish missionaries who contracted the disease in Africa.

"With concerns growing around the world of the Ebola pandemic spreading beyond West Africa, the Spanish officials sought to reassure the public that they were tackling the threat."

"This has taken us by surprise," said Perez-Santamaria. "We are revising our protocols, improving them."

"A spokesman for the European Commission said the case would be discussed at an EU Health Security Committee meeting on Wednesday.

"The priority remains to find out what actually happened," he said.

"Jonathan Ball, a professor of molecular virology at Britain's University of Nottingham, said the nurse should not have contracted the deadly disease if appropriate containment and control measures had been taken.

"It will be crucial to find out what went wrong in this case so necessary measures can be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again," he told Reuters."

[Rollo]

As we all heard ebola arrived to US and this is what working for MSM people really think about it and what are their concerns.

ju-xqofwBv8

[SilentFeathers]

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On Steve Quayle's 'Alerts' section, here:
http://stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1139
(The 'Alert' is intelligently well-written, but no sources are given)







Below is a list of countries that have confirmed cases of Ebola:


Every country in Africa
Spain
Italy
France
Germany
Poland
Greece
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Oman
Iran
Kuwait
Vietnam
Myanmar
India
Indonesia
Australia
China
Brazil
Venezuela
Mexico
United States
Canada

What you’re seeing here is the initial global footprint of the Ebola virus. It is most likely that each one of the above countries has more than one case; and, they are struggling to maintain the public’s confidence. We should see a second global wave of Ebola cases following a brief incubation period.

The secondary global outbreak will be under-reported, as well. Around the end of October/beginning of November, during the tertiary wave, it will become apparent this is a global pandemic that has spiraled completely out of control.

At this point, economies will start to falter, airline travel will decline rapidly, and governments around the world will blame each other for lack of truthfulness.

One may appropriately expect the spread of Ebola through the international community to look like the spread of Enterovirus-68 in the United States:


Initial outbreaks played down and under-reported.
Initial reporting suggests the government and health agencies are responding appropriately.
Spread has reached several states.
Number infected suggests it is completely out of control.
Confirmation that it is completely out of control.
Increase in morbidity and mortality.
Public panic ensues.

It is possible the spread of Ebola will burn through the population like the flu — both have similar infection mechanisms and life expectancies in the external environment. Let’s pray this assessment is completely wrong!

I'm copying this post in to the prediction thread.....

Considering what we all have witness thus far pertaining to this outbreak, this "assessment and or prediction" for the most part can not be ignored and is a common sense, logical, and reasonable "likely outcome".

Everything thus far points in this direction and is unfolding right before our very eyes.....

[TargeT]

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It is possible the spread of Ebola will burn through the population like the flu — both have similar infection mechanisms and life expectancies in the external environment. Let’s pray this assessment is completely wrong![/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT]

I'm copying this post in to the prediction thread.....

Considering what we all have witness thus far pertaining to this outbreak, this "assessment and or prediction" for the most part can not be ignored and is a common sense, logical, and reasonable "likely outcome".

Everything thus far points in this direction and is unfolding right before our very eyes.....

Contamination vector is not airborne, unless that changes this will not rapidly spread to large numbers.

I'd like to see some evidence that the above list is accurate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ebola_outbreaks lists 8 countries)

Let me repeat this VERY VERY important fact:

THE CONTAMINATION VECTOR IS NOT AIRBORNE................ NOT AIRBORNE.

Person-to-person transmission occurs via close personal contact with an infected individual or their body fluids during the late stages of infection or after death Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 22 Footnote 42. Nosocomial infections can occur through contact with infected body fluids for example due to the reuse of unsterilized syringes, needles, or other medical equipment contaminated with these fluids Footnote 1 Footnote 2. Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

U.S. Centers for Disease Control says there is “no epidemiologic evidence of Ebola virus transmission via either the environment or (surfaces) that could become contaminated during patient care.”



Let me know when the number of infected crosses 30,000 in one country, then I'll start to worry.


As we all heard ebola arrived to US and this is what working for MSM people really think about it and what are their concerns.

ju-xqofwBv8

People from the press are just as susceptible to their own fear campaigns as the rest of the non-critical thinking population... Probably more so since they are the "mouth" of the machine...

(BTW, sounded a LOT like sarcasm in every statement I heard... aka "black humor" ... )

[Hervé]

Well, well, well... what do you know...

Rockefeller Foundation's own predictive scenario of what "could" happen:


aEvYdNP2unk


... and a PDF of said document: http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/uploads/files/bba493f7-cc97-4da3-add6-3deb007cc719.pdf

... with CDC chiming in and on:

CDC planning new travel-related measures to fight Ebola (http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2014/10/07/cdc-planning-new-travel-related-measures-to-fight-ebola/)

Oct. 7, 2014 3:50pm Pete Kasperowicz (http://www.theblaze.com/author/pete-kasperowicz/)

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday it will soon announce new travel-related recommendations aimed at stopping the spread of Ebola in the United States, and indicated the new measures would be announced later this week.

CDC Director Tom Frieden didn’t say whether the new recommendations would include a ban on flights from the three West African countries that have suffered an Ebola outbreak. But he did say the steps are related to travel, and said he knows many Americans are worried about how international travel could contribute to an outbreak in the United States.


http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/600x4561.jpg
Director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Dr. Tom Frieden said Tuesday that new recommendations to fight the spread of Ebola will soon be made, possibly this week. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)


“As the president said yesterday, we’re looking hard at what we can do to further increase the safety of Americans, and in the coming days, we will announce further measures that will be taken,” Frieden said.

Aside from a travel ban, the steps could include enhanced screening of passengers coming to the United States, and efforts to improve the tracking of passengers who might be trying to come to the United States indirectly.

Etc...

[sheme]

I am not worried, I am keeping myself informed, I will make my life decisions more prudently because I am informed. I will prepare for the worst case scenario when I feel it is time to do so, not because some ill informed person tells me I am being politically manipulated to cause fear and panic - I say stay informed, quietly prepare and there will be no need for panic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xcgi-wADHo

[bruno dante]

zzzzzzz...Sars...zzzzzzz....mad cow...zzzzzz.....west nile.....bird flu..zzzzzz......swine flu.......ebola...(waking up with drool running down my chin: "huh, what happened again?")

I'm about as worried about this as I am a hang nail. None of this crap ever materializes. When are we gonna learn???

Step up your garlic or Echinacea routine. Wash your hands frequently. Don't take a spontaneous trip to Africa. And stop worrying. Christ, what's the point?

This will soon die down and be forgotten, just like all the others. Meanwhile, the usual suspects will benefit: the media, drug companies, the FDA or the WHO or whatever other institution that wants to create a climate of false fear.

Wake me when it's over..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[TargeT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xcgi-wADHo

Yeah, they took off the data because it was an error, not to cover it up... seriously AIDS is not airborne, neither is Ebola.

if this has changed and is being covered up, well there would be a LARGE outbreak not ~8,000 infected WORLD WIDE.

I guess keep an eye on it, if it's airborne we will see an explosion of infection; since it never has been airborne (and probably still not airborne) I'm not too concerned, if it were airborne West africa would be exhibiting so many more cases....

[Bob]

Mr. Duncan the ebola patient in Dallas has died this morning shortly before 8 local time.

update: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=885985&viewfull=1#post885985

Yesterday the hospital was reporting:

blood pressure going back to normal ranges
temperature - normal
liver function improving


This level of "recovery" was noted with Marburg patients as described by one of the program leaders who helped to create Soviet bioweapons, (of which Ebola-Zaire later was worked on as a weaponized variant). (source earlier posts/reports in this thread and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_biological_weapons_program - the doctor who accidentally needle stuck himself when a lab animal jumped (about to be given a lethal dose of the bioweapon), died a rather gruesome death, but the Soviet's managing supervisors looked at his death as a "breakthrough", because the virus now, was sufficiently amplified having been through the body, but continued to DEFEAT the anti-bodies.. When that happens, this process is called "amplification". It is similar to creating mutations.. So the Soviets in the bioweapons program were elated - a new tool to potentially assault anyone that gets in their way..

So at this point what will happen no doubt is an autopsy and plenty of blood samples, tissue samples will go to CDC, probably NIH to "study" the effects, damage level, recovery level. Mr. Duncan's remains would then become a tool for the bio-med people to understand more about how to use a virus as a weapon, how to try to map prognosis (if possible), predicting when the person will die based on certain levels of organ failure.

About "treatment" - Mr. Duncan should have been started on the medicine WHILE he was just starting to present symptoms. Waiting a week in this virus is generally a death sentence as reported by a doctor in Liberia, using drug treatments.. Get there before the organ damage goes beyond the level no return and the patient may recover..

Also reported in Mr. Duncan's case were secondary infections. Without seeing his chart, and nobody outside the system will ever see that, it is a guess based on reports of other patients' recovery or lack of it. It is understood that Ebola and other Hemorrhagic Fevers will damage the immune system. Mr. Duncan was given some sort of antibiotic, which he may or may not have taken early on, which not having completed the 10 day regimen could have contributed to building up a bacterial over-growth, which would not necessarily then been treated properly.

The Hospital in Dallas is not a hospital that is used in the US as a model pathogenic disease treatment facility, as is the Hospital in Nebraska, The Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha where other Ebola Patients have been successfully treated.

Overall, it seems clear, when he was booted out of the ER prior to the ambulance finally bringing him back, that his days were numbered, as to how he was going to be treated (or not)..

[SilentFeathers]

Mr. Duncan the ebola patient in Dallas has died this morning shortly before 8 local time.

The MSM is surely taking their time to report this development.

[Peace of Mind]

hmmm,
Ebola popped up out of nowhere and started killing Africans over 2 decades ago. I hardly could get anyone to talk about it because it wasn’t directly affecting them…now years later the world wants to start showing some concern, well it's about time.
I’ve heard/read the word Ebola more times in the last week than I’ve heard in the last 20 years. Better late than never I suppose…too bad we have this tendency to ignore/neglect these things until they start showing up at our front doors. This was inevitable, what follows next will be too...if we continue to avoid our humane responsibilities.

Peace

[Bob]

Mr. Duncan the ebola patient in Dallas has died this morning shortly before 8 local time.

The MSM is surely taking their time to report this development.

Hard telling there Jim; hospitals these days, especially big ones, have to check with their legal department, and the next of kin about releasing any statement. A two hour lag isn't out of line with the way those institutions work. I would be more concerned about how the "community" is going to respond. Rev. Jesse Jackson has made statements yesterday, and I would assume he will make more statements today.. Mr. Duncan's relatives and friends will make statements, and those under house quarantine obviously still are under risk, as the rest of the people involved with his transport are being looked at. Either way, this saga isn't over in Dallas.

[SilentFeathers]

Mr. Duncan the ebola patient in Dallas has died this morning shortly before 8 local time.

The MSM is surely taking their time to report this development.

Hard telling there Jim; hospitals these days, especially big ones, have to check with their legal department, and the next of kin about releasing any statement. A two hour lag isn't out of line with the way those institutions work. I would be more concerned about how the "community" is going to respond. Rev. Jesse Jackson has made statements yesterday, and I would assume he will make more statements today.. Mr. Duncan's relatives and friends will make statements, and those under house quarantine obviously still are under risk, as the rest of the people involved with his transport are being looked at. Either way, this saga isn't over in Dallas.

It's just now popping up everywhere on news sites that he has died....

[Bob]

http://www.denosa.org.za/DAdmin/upload/news/ebola2.png

And they keep dying, in the streets, in homes, some people being taken to homes from the streets, and left there to die alone without any care..


http://cc.amazingcounters.com/counter.php?i=3190880&c=9572953
"Sierra Leone burial teams have gone back to work one day after organizing a strike over pay and abandoning the dead bodies of Ebola victims in the capital.

"In neighboring Liberia, however, health workers said Wednesday they planned to strike if their demands for more money and safety equipment were not met by the end of the week.

"The expressions of frustration by beleaguered West African health workers came as Spanish officials investigated whether a nursing assistant infected with Ebola got the deadly disease by touching her face with tainted protective gloves. The case of Teresa Romero is the first known incident of someone contracting the disease outside the West African outbreak zone.

"The Sierra Leone Broadcasting Corporation reported this week that bodies of Ebola victims were being left in homes and on the streets of Freetown because of the strike by burial teams. The dead bodies of Ebola victims are highly contagious.

"But in a radio interview Wednesday morning, Sierra Leone's deputy health minister Madina Rahman said the strike had been "resolved." Later in the day, a team could be seen loading bodies outside a government hospital for burial in the west of Freetown. The team's leader declined to be interviewed but said members had been promised hazard pay by the end of the day.

"Rahman said the dispute centered on a one-week backlog for hazard pay that had been deposited in the bank but was not given to burial teams on time.

"The health ministry is going to investigate the delay in the health workers not receiving their money," Rahman said.

"The burial teams make up a total of 600 workers organized in groups of 12, health ministry spokesman Sidie Yahya Tunis said."

(Source (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/sierra-leone-strike-leaves-ebola-dead-streets-26036355))

[Lettherebelight]

People make a point that because this Ebola strain is not airborne, then it's not that transmissible.

But smallpox (remember that one?) was not airborne either. Equally, it has practically the same transmission profile as smallpox. So although it is a huge plus that Ebola is not airborne, it doesn't necessarily mean it is difficult to catch. Any surface can be contaminated if touched by an infected patient's body fluids, including sweat from the fever.

Sorry if this has been already pointed out, it's getting to be a lengthy thread. I think its a case now of hoping for the best (ie. it just fizzles out), but being prepared for the worst (ie. get your healing arsenals stocked and loaded).

[Bob]

Mike Adams over at Natural News (Source (http://www.naturalnews.com/047165_ebola_transmission_cdc_propaganda_public_health.html)) weighs in on his understandings about studies that concluded Ebola is possible to be transmitted by droplets in the air (citing cough/sneeze and also sputum)..

"There's no subtle way to say this, so I'll just state it outright: The U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has become a clear and present danger to the public health of all Americans. The agency's continued repeating of lies based on false assumptions is already contributing to a dangerous, casual attitude about Ebola transmission that could cause this outbreak to explode across the United States."

Mike goes on to say:

"Clearly this threat needs to be taken seriously, and all Americans deserve to hear the truth about Ebola's infection vectors. But instead of telling the truth about how Ebola is spreading, the CDC remains in a state of dangerous denial, falsely insisting the virus only spreads through "direct contact" even though virologist experts strongly disagree (and infections are clearly taking place that could not have happened through direct contact)."


Even the W.H.O. now openly contradicts the CDC, stating "The Ebola virus can also be transmitted indirectly, by contact with previously contaminated surfaces and objects." [6]

The W.H.O. also explains that "...wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual... could transmit the virus -- over a short distance -- to another nearby person. This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing..."

Despite these warnings, photos captured outside the apartment of Ebola "patient zero" Thomas Duncan show government officials walking in and out of an obviously contaminated apartment while wearing no protective gear whatsoever. The sidewalk where Duncan vomited was power-washed by people wearing no protective gear as well.

Such astonishing events put us all at risk of increased Ebola transmission, and the careless, casual attitude being witnessed right now is a direct result of the CDC knowingly lying to the public about Ebola transmission vectors.

Mike goes on to bring up documentation and some very sobering observations:


Here are the five dangerous -- even deadly -- assumptions still being made by the CDC, an agency that is clearly behaving in a way that threatens the health and safety of the American people:

Assumption #1) Ebola only spreads via "direct contact"

The CDC continues to dangerously assert that Ebola only spread through "direct contact." This false claim openly encourages health and government officials to avoid donning necessary isolation gear (such as full face respirators) when mingling near infected Ebola patients.

It also makes the idea of touching Ebola-contaminated surfaces (such as doorknobs, bed sheets, countertops and even vehicle door handles) seem perfectly safe. But virologists are now openly questioning this dangerous CDC assumption. As reported by the LA Times: [1]

...some also question the official assertion that Ebola cannot be transmitted through the air. In late 1989, virus researcher Charles L. Bailey supervised the government's response to an outbreak of Ebola among several dozen rhesus monkeys housed for research in Reston, Va., a suburb of Washington.

What Bailey learned from the episode informs his suspicion that the current strain of Ebola afflicting humans might be spread through tiny liquid droplets propelled into the air by coughing or sneezing. "We know for a fact that the virus occurs in sputum and no one has ever done a study [disproving that] coughing or sneezing is a viable means of transmitting," he said. Unqualified assurances that Ebola is not spread through the air, Bailey said, are "misleading."

Peters, whose CDC team studied cases from 27 households that emerged during a 1995 Ebola outbreak in Democratic Republic of Congo, said that while most could be attributed to contact with infected late-stage patients or their bodily fluids, "some" infections may have occurred via "aerosol transmission."

"Those monkeys were dying in a pattern that was certainly suggestive of coughing and sneezing -- some sort of aerosol movement," Bailey said. "They were dying and spreading it so quickly from cage to cage. We finally came to the conclusion that the best action was to euthanize them all."

Dr. Peters and Dr. Russell also warn against the dogma of the CDC, saying: [1]

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters. "We just don't have the data to exclude it..."

"Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here." - Dr. Philip K. Russell, an Ebola research virologist and former head of the U.S. Army's Medical Research and Development Command. "we're in the middle of the first experiment of multiple, serial passages of Ebola virus in man.... God knows what this virus is going to look like. I don't."

Go to Mike's page to read the rest of the Article..

Sources for this article include:
[1] http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-qu... (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1)

[2] http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/07/cnn-r... (http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/07/cnn-reporter-shocked-and-pretty-horrified-at-the-lack-of-screening-for-ebola-in-us-airports/)

[3] http://www.naturalnews.com/047119_ebola_pand... (http://www.naturalnews.com/047119_ebola_pandemic_hazardous_materials_cleanup_crews.html)

[4] http://news.yahoo.com/male-ebola-survivors-t... (http://news.yahoo.com/male-ebola-survivors-told-condom-170136287.html)

[5] http://www.naturalnews.com/047118_ebola_pand... (http://www.naturalnews.com/047118_ebola_pandemic_us_government_american_cities.html)

[6] http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/06... (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/06-october-2014/en/)

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047165_ebola_transmission_cdc_propaganda_public_health.html

[SilentFeathers]

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[SilentFeathers]

Here's a pandemic webinar from fema......

https://share.dhs.gov/p7b0mlqsepi/

FEMA Region II/ SIFMA
Pandemic Webinar I: Federal and Local Government Pandemic Planning
September 23, 2014 10:00-11:30am

[TargeT]

DXn4_Ncb0jA

Symptoms of Ebola include

Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
Severe headache
Muscle pain
Weakness
Diarrhea
Vomiting
Abdominal (stomach) pain
Unexplained hemorrhage (bleeding or bruising)


Yep, no sneezing or coughing there...

I've had a Hemorrhagic fever TWICE now (two strains of dengue, there are 6 here on the islands... 4 more to go and I'm immune for life!) you don't cough, you don't sneeze, you feel like CRAP and move as little as possible (sure brings the contagious fluid movement to a minimum).

I was in bed for 7 days the first time, probably didn't go more than 10 feet from my bed, 2nd time wasn't as bad but I was still moving like a 90 yr old after hip replacement surgery. Apparently Ebola is worse, so... even more limiting on late stage onset (which is when you can spread it).

Now again, if this actually mutates and becomes airborne there could be a real issue on our hands, or if like Dengue it becomes an insect spread disease, but it's not either.



Here's a pandemic webinar from fema......

https://share.dhs.gov/p7b0mlqsepi/

FEMA Region II/ SIFMA
Pandemic Webinar I: Federal and Local Government Pandemic Planning
September 23, 2014 10:00-11:30am




pandemic
[pan-dem-ik]

Examples
Word Origin

adjective
1.
(of a disease) prevalent throughout an entire country, continent, or the whole world; epidemic over a large area.
2.
general; universal

this is no where near a pandemic, it may be what is desired but it's NOT right now, its a small amount of cases currently.

[Bob]

Feds to screen up to 150 people a day (Ken Jenkins Aviation crisis consultant, FOX)

5 international airports will be doing this upgraded step. The big thing being a new questionnaire to be filled out on arrival..

And UK says 750 people are being sent to West Africa to help out.

(multiple sources, satellite feed and internet)

[TargeT]

Feds to screen up to 150 people a day (Ken Jenkins Aviation crisis consultant, FOX)

5 international airports will be doing this upgraded step. The big thing being a new questionnaire to be filled out on arrival..

And UK says 750 people are being sent to West Africa to help out.

(multiple sources, satellite feed and internet)

When I flew through Beijing a couple of years ago they had thermal scanners publicly set up (and a screen below them showing everyone's body temp who walked past), to me this seems like the best tactic to have a populace police itself as well as assist the already paid for control structure. (good for stopping the spread of what ever flu they were on the look out for at the time).
http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2009/thermal_scanners/thermal_scanners_01.jpg
I wouldn't be surprised to see this being implemented as well.

[Bob]

Breaking news.. the second Texas person apparently having contact with Mr. Duncan (who died this morning), is now exhibiting the symptoms.. NO news yet on who that person is, if it was a family member, or one of the people in the Ambulance, or staff at the hospital. (live satellite feed to Fox - source)

update - hospital is saying they will have a news conference shortly.. News is saying they are being kept out of the loop for the moment, so no details able to be relayed, having to wait on what the hospital chooses to reveal.. possibly in the next hour or two, they will release an update from the hospital.

Update 2 - CDC's Frieden seems to contradict the statements made earlier by media, saying he simply doesn't know for sure what is happening, but he didn't think it was ebola and went to a next question.. his news conference is currently pre-empting any live statements by the Dallas hospital.

Update 3 - Zero Hedge seems to have some current information on the possible "case" - emphasis on the word possible as nobody seems to be talking - see http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-08/2nd-dallas-patient-shows-ebola-symptoms-cbs-reports for more data - "#BREAKING Patient at a Frisco Care Now clinic showing symptoms of possible Ebola. Claims contact with Thomas Duncan.
12:50 PM - 8 Oct 2014"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzckHyyCQAAXnLB.jpg

PHOTO: Firefighters set up an isolation tent inside an ambulance at the Frisco CareNow as a precaution. #ebola
12:55 PM - 8 Oct 2014[/CENTER]

OK a Dallas County's deputy sheriff is the one. Coming out of Dallas news. Did he grab Duncan, contact his spit, give him a hug, shake his hand, give him a kiss, sorry for the obtuse obviousness here but that is to look at what "close contact means". HOW then if this is the case, did he GET an exposure - from this so called "hard to catch" virus...

The Frisco Fire Chief weighs in - (not the Hospital yet) - says they have been training properly to deal with this. They wore protective clothing he says. They made contact with Care Now physicians, the Medical director was there too, and they felt it was important to transport to Texas Health Resources in Dallas where the patient is located. He says that this deputy ONLY had contact with FAMILY members and was present inside the apartment, but did NOT have contact with Mr. Duncan (perplexing discrepancy here...) The Texas Frisco Mayor says, "The Risk is Minimal we are being told", saying it repeatedly to the media during the news conference.

The Frisco Fire Chief says this is happening quickly so he is trying his best to get information but it is simply NOT forthcoming.

link: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/

[avid]

Officials at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital said Monday that their patient, Thomas Eric Duncan, is in critical condition and being treated with brincidofovir, an oral medicine developed by Chimerix Inc. So is he really dead now as also reported? Or another fake scenario, as initially no new drugs, then 'available' at death's door, and now some other desperate profiteering drug ploy. It's like looking into a bio-hazard lab in the real world now, for big Pharma profit and blackmail. Did this drug fail, as the PTB said no new stuff would be wasted on him. Did he have sickle-cell to complicate matters?

Bottom-line: we are being blackmailed into the big Pharma 'necessities' again. Refuse all untested vaccines. Drink colloidal silver solution, and get it made locally asap if you don't know how! I will help if I'm 'up north' asap! Don't worry - it's all fear-porn at the moment to affect the economies of the world, and divert attention from the ransacking of Syria and the middle east, and west Africa for globalistic resources ("We'll help you to get better if you let us in and run your natural resources, or sell them to us for a real deal..." "We will help you get well and make your local politicians look great - as saviours - for a price) Rotten to the core globalistic strategies, funnily enough, the US Bio-Weapons lab in Sierra Leone was recently closed down....., and specialised in the mutancy and probable leakage of hemorrhagic fevers, such as Ebola and Marburg.
The rip-off banksters and globalistic vultures are at heightened awareness at the moment - but SO ARE WE!!!

the Dr Niman 'flu-tracker site is here:
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12561

[Bob]

Donating blood for Serum - Dr. Kent Brantly whom we heard about having come to Atlanta's Emory Hospital, earlier receiving zMapp and supportive care is donating more of his blood.

"A spokesman for Samaritan’s Purse on Wednesday said Brantly had been contacted by the Dallas hospital treating Duncan to see if he would also be willing to donate blood to him, should their blood types match. Brantly said he definitely would be willing to do so but never heard back after that.

“The assumption is they weren’t a match,” said Samaritan’s Purse spokesman Jeremy Blume. “He was never contacted again.”

What has been happening..

"Dr. Brantly, the first Westerner repatriated to the United States (Atlanta's Emory University Hospital) for treatment during the deadliest Ebola outbreak in history, received the blood of a young Ebola survivor he'd treated in Liberia, along with the experimental drug zMapp.

"Dr. Rick Sacra was treated with a serum made from Dr. Brantly's blood and the drug TKM-Ebola.

"Mukpo is receiving an experimental drug called brincidofovir. He will also receive some serum made from Dr. Brantly's blood."


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"Dr. Brantly was driving through Kansas City on Tuesday when he received a call from Angela Hewett, associate medical director of the biocontainment unit at The Nebraska Medical Center, where Dr Sacra was treated and where independent tv camerman Mr. Ashoka Mukpo currently is being treated. Remarkably, Dr. Brantly’s blood type matched Mr. Mukpo’s blood type, just as it had with Dr. Sacra.

"Dr. Brantly stopped at a facility in Kansas City to give his blood, which was then flown to Omaha.

“It’s not a likely scenario that he would again have the same blood type,” Hewett said in a statement released by the hospital. “We are incredibly grateful that that Dr. Brantly would take the time to do this, not once, but twice.”

"In a statement to NBC, Mukpo's father, Mitchell Levy, called Dr. Brantly's donation an act of "kindness and generosity" that "makes me believe in the goodness of humanity."

"The theory behind the transfusion treatment is this: The blood of an Ebola survivor should carry antibodies of the virus. By giving a current Ebola patient an injection of a compatible amount of blood plasma from someone who recovered from the disease, those antibodies could help the patient fight the virus."

That procedure is starting to be used in Africa currently - the problem with using unscreened serum (in desperation) is that other infections could be present and then transferred to an already sick person.. the people are reaching any way they can.

(Source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/08/ebola-survivor-kent-brantly-donates-blood-to-help-treat-nbc-cameraman-ashoka-mukpo/))

[ThePythonicCow]

I've had a Hemorrhagic fever TWICE now (two strains of dengue, there are 6 here on the islands... 4 more to go and I'm immune for life!) you don't cough, you don't sneeze, you feel like CRAP and move as little as possible (sure brings the contagious fluid movement to a minimum).
Ah - so you're not stating that Ebola (a hemorrhagic fever) couldn't be spread with a cough or a sneeze to someone close by.

Rather you're saying that such is not a significant risk, in part because victims don't cough or sneeze.


this is no where near a pandemic, it may be what is desired but it's NOT right now, its a small amount of cases currently.

... and you're saying that whatever the mechanisms of spreading this ... the spread is small right now (as best as we can tell ... realizing that the official stats may be an order of magnitude off, either way.)

===

There is also an issue over the meaning of the word "airborne". The CDC (as in this page on "Transmission-Based Precautions" (http://www.cdc.gov/HAI/settings/outpatient/basic-infection-control-prevention-plan-2011/transmission-based-precautions.html)) distinguishes between transmission of a pathogen by "the droplet route" and by "airborne route". A measles virus can come off an infected patients skin directly into the air, with no coughing or sneezing involved. The CDC calls that "airborne".

By that technical definition of "airborne", it may well be that Ebola is not airborne.


But adamant claims over whether Ebola is or is not airborne, without being clear whether (a) one is using the ordinary definition of that term, which for most people would include "the droplet route", or (b) one is using the CDC distinctions between airborne and droplet routes, are less effective, in my view, in increasing our shared understanding.

[Bob]

very good Paul - it is coming down to the verbiage issue, what does one word mean, CDC is saying airborne transmission means like in an aerosolized airborne transmission method for ANTHRAX for instance, the substance has been probably encapsulated in a "freeze dried" particle system, microscopic dust in other words, able to remain stable and dispirsed by a weapons delivery platform..

They keep saying NO AIRBORNE transmission using that mindset that we never hear about, yet alone for anyone not familiar with "medical geek-speak".. that it is not using the standard DRIED method of making a bioweapon. Therefore CDC can say, see it is not an aerosol transmission using a dried weapons system. It is not being used apparently to anyone's knowledge to use this "dried method" to spread or catch this virus..


What is being glossed over, which apparently really got Mike Adam's attention is the WET COUGH SNEEZE transmission, or coming in contact with the virus from a SURFACE. That colder surfaces can allow it to be stable enough and then transferred to a human or primate host. What I find interesting though, is that Spain is choosing now to use the thoughts that Canines can harbour the virus, and not present such..

[SilentFeathers]

Its a deputy that's showing symptoms, he went into the home several days ago.

[Bob]

Its a deputy that's showing symptoms, he went into the home several days ago.

JIm, you mean one of the people doing the transport of Mr. Duncan when he finally got checked into the Hospital? (the deputy), or is that a police officer?

[SilentFeathers]

On my phone, can't post link. Article is on Drudge.

[Bob]

On my phone, can't post link. Article is on Drudge.

tnx, just updated the report above on a news conference from the Fire Chief of Frisco (a town north of Dallas). Apparently the deputy did NOT come in direct contact, but did come in contact with Mr. Duncan's family/relatives and was inside the apartment.. so this is appears "MAYBE" to be an INDIRECT contracting of the virus, not a direct contact.. IF IF IF this is a real situation. Folks are not reporting from the hospital.. At this point only the Mayor and the Fire Chief are responding.

Again, how did that indirect exposure cause a problem? It's not supposed to be easy to catch right? Statistically meaningless --- hmm..

The Fire Chief says that the people in this location where they transported the new patient from are being looked at as NEW potential ones exposed, such as doctors and nursing staff. HE EMPHASISES nothing to see here, paraphrasing, this is a LOW RISK EVENT, rest assured, we are doing everything we can - we have talked about this - we are prepared - for weeks if not months..

-- Update - they say (Texas Mayor and Fire Chief) - TRUST US DON'T WORRY - keep perspective, this is only a POSSIBLE case, has had some of the indicators, enough to warrant follow-up that cannot be done in the local clinic.

-- Update reiteration - there have been many false alarms, from people sick from having traveled back from a West African Country, and those who were sick on planes but had no virus (no ebola, having symptoms and diagnosed such as with Malaria). The only difference here with the deputy is that he was in the apartment, and talked with relatives of Mr. Duncan. So they are err'ing on the measure of caution.. to have him come in to the hospital for tests.


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His son says Dad does NOT HAVE Ebola Article from Dallas Ft Worth local CBS news -

"The patient, Michael Monnig, was transported from a Frisco Care Now facility where he was complaining of “stomach issues,” according to sources.

"According to CBS 11’s Andrea Lucia, Monnig’s children said he woke up this morning feeling sore and a little nauseated. He went to clinic as a precaution.

“We were told by federal officials, county officials that you would have to come in direct contact with Duncan or direct contact with bodily fluids, and he did not,” said Monnig’s son, Logan about the possibility of his dad contracting Ebola. Logan said it’s a very scary time for his family, but they do not expect that his dad will test positive for the virus.

"Monning was not one of the 48 people being monitored by federal, state and local health officials because he never had direct contact with the patient.

"Monnig did enter the apartment where Duncan stayed after Duncan had been admitted to the hospital.

“He was in the apartment for 30 minutes, which we were told is no chance to contact the virus,” said Logan.

"First responders transported Monnig from the Care Now located at 301 W. Main Street in Frisco.

"The clinic reported that he was “exhibiting signs and symptoms of Ebola.”

"CBS 11 has confirmed with Care Now that the facility is in contact with the Centers for Disease Control and is holding everyone in the facility until receiving clearance from the CDC. The patient has been transported to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital by Frisco firefighter-paramedics, the same hospital where Duncan, the first patient to be diagnosed with the virus on American soil, was admitted. Duncan died earlier today, after spending more than 10 days in isolation at that hospital.

"Texas Health Presbyterian Dallas confirmed the patient’s arrival to the Emergency Room in statement, which reads in part, “Right now, there are more questions than answers about this case. Our professional staff of nurses and doctors is prepared to examine the patient, discuss any findings with appropriate agencies and officials. We are on alert with precautions and systems in place.” The hospital is still admitting and caring for other patients at this time."


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So with luck all this will be is a stomach flu, or simply "nerves" from an exceedingly worried person. Doctors and authorities are saying worrying about Ebola is NOT GOOD. Basically they are saying stop paying attention, you will NOT get Ebola. THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE WITH THIS - THERE IS NO OUTBREAK IN THE US.

Here is from the local news link: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/

[avid]

I am monitoring Niman's 'flu tracker' site:
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12551&p=96712#p96712
about the death of a family dog. It is quite contentious, and worth watching the outcome.

Niman is usually 'on the ball' with news. Yet keeps an open mind - as cross-check all info globally via alternative news feeds, to avoid unnecessary stress and avoidable msm hype!

This whole scenario reeks of a major (yet nasty - but controllable) false flag, to divert our attention, and put fear into local communities, unnecessarily. To divert us from the illegal resource-grab in various 'at war' countries by the globalist cabal. The Zionists are still going to trash Gaza ahead despite Obama saying STOP! He is a puppet of a Zionist regime/cult, we should be aware we are controlled globally by such a 'régime'

[Bob]

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/10/08/patient-frisco-ebola-suspect/16924603/


http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/1548c1d252423d85ba675e9a6932f55c3cf93508/c=0-19-1094-841&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/WFAA/None/2014/10/08/635483819119038139-deputy06.JPG

"Right now, there are more questions than answers about this case," said Wendell Watson, a spokesman with the hospital.

The patient was identified as Sgt. Michael Monnig, a deputy who accompanied county health officials Zachary Thompson and Christopher Perkins into the apartment where Thomas Eric Duncan stayed in Dallas.

The deputy was ordered to go inside the unit with officials to get a quarantine order signed. (the relatives of Mr. Duncan were ORDERED to not leave the premises - a deputy was required to be present to ensure that they complied, understood the official order.)

No one who went inside the unit that day wore protective gear.

(No news on the condition of the other officials who went in with Sgt. Monnig)


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From the Article cited:


It will take up to 48 hours to get test results back to determine if Monnig tests positive for the Ebola virus.

The CareNow is located in the 300 block of Main Street. Patients were held inside the clinic as crews at the scene examined staff and others inside the building, but they have since been released.

"The patient claims to have had contact with the Dallas 'patient zero,'" according to a statement from Dana Baird-Hanks, a spokeswoman with the city of Frisco.

Health officials said the transportation of the patient was done out of an abundance of caution.

"We are being very cautious and are in contact with the health department to ensure we follow proper protocol," said Vicki Johns, with CareNow. "Our concern is for the safety and well being of everyone in our clinic."

News 8's Jason Whitely spoke to Chuck Moreno, who had gone into the CareNow facility with his 15-year-old son to get a flu shot Wednesday. Moreno said he saw a patient, whose skin was flushed and who was hunched over but walking, enter the clinic with his wife.

Within minutes, police and fire units surrounded the facility, taped off a gray SUV, and isolated other patients at the facility.

[Roisin]

Yes, I've been silent lately and the reason why is because I know a bad situation when I see one. This Ebola epidemic/pandemic is a case in point and it's really dragging me down.. at least when I think about it. So today was a end of a death watch for one of its victims. Funny how we knew how that one was going to end but this is only the beginning. There will be many more death watches to come but rest assured, those who manage to survive it, will not be among the destitute and poor who catch it too.

[Violet]

How on earth are they going to quarantine the Madrid nurse case? She walked around with symptoms for almost a week, and apparently she had reported them too but was not taken seriously by the meds. So, in the capital of Spain if you live a regular out and indoor life throughout a week with this virus, shouldn't the whole of Madrid be quarantined now?

[Bob]

Agreed both Roisin and Violet. It is depressing. I do notice a change in the perceived vibe - watching some of the news media, those who DID and are paying attention have a very pronounced depressed (sigh) type of vibe about their demeanor.

Conventional protocol being enforced would say


identify all contacts
find the people in closest contact
monitor for 21 days
find any contacts anyone presenting may have had
widen the circle and repeat


I am of a feeling that safe anti-virals prophylactically can be used. I'e mentioned some of the safe ones in this thread, there would not be any need to use an unproven vaccine or some substance from a major who would make billions, stuff is practically over-the-counter and may be in some Countries. If people are part of the circle, get on the anti-viral. What it may do is cure the CMV (cmv=cytomegalovirus) latency and improve the quality of life - so it could be a win..

[Bob]

ya know what's sad.. Brittany Maynard has been in the news as choosing to end her life cause she has brain cancer... Possibly, her doctors have said it's impossible to deal with.. Maybe she doesn't want to be a burden..

HOWEVER - Very amazing studies have happened showing that various anti-virals can do what looks like, CURE such brain tumors..

I am bringing this up in this thread, because the substance mentioned earlier in this thread, as a new highly refined anti-viral, Brincidofovir; it's manufactured by a small obscure company called Chimirex and it could become a very low cost anti-viral that has the ability to go after the viruses behind cancers...

What a strange turn of events if this substance can help Britanny but maybe, she will never hear about it or know, it may be worth a try to let her know.. what a holiday blessing if this can happen..

(couple of links to look at: http://www.webmd.com/cancer/brain-cancer/news/20130904/antiviral-drug-may-extend-brain-cancer-survival-researchers-say

and

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/97873022/brain-tumor-treatment-breakthrough )

If you can reach her, please give her the data..

[Matisse]

People make a point that because this Ebola strain is not airborne, then it's not that transmissible.

But smallpox (remember that one?) was not airborne either. Equally, it has practically the same transmission profile as smallpox. So although it is a huge plus that Ebola is not airborne, it doesn't necessarily mean it is difficult to catch. Any surface can be contaminated if touched by an infected patient's body fluids, including sweat from the fever.

Sorry if this has been already pointed out, it's getting to be a lengthy thread. I think its a case now of hoping for the best (ie. it just fizzles out), but being prepared for the worst (ie. get your healing arsenals stocked and loaded).



Yes, exactly. I have seen in many articles and comments that stress the point that it is not airborne and compare it to aids, but I think smallpox seems a much better comparison. The nurse that has been infected here in Spain now said that she touched her face
with her gloves and that is probably how she got infected. We touch our face on an average of 2-4 times a minute, some 5,500 times a day, so imagine if surfaces can be contaminated by droplets, sweat, etc. Does anyone know how long the virus
can live on surfaces? I think smallpox could for quite long as they infected the native american indians with contaminated blankets. It seems they keep stressing the point that because it is not airborne it is very dificult to become infected,
but still medical staff where suits that look like from a movie and take precautions and still become infected.

[Bob]

OK Matisse - the short answer, in cooler temperatures not in the sun, up to 10 days, or longer if refrigerated, or frozen, (perpetually if frozen) or about 2-3 days depending on the quantity of the secretion (sputum, vomit, feces, blood).

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

is from Canada, the public health agency if anyone cares to look at the technical details.

they happen to say for those who just can't read a technical document that the current history says mortality is 50-100% depending on the condition, the state of the immune system, the health care received. Arguing statistical numbers is ludicrous, the event is real, the virus is real, and wildfire outbreaks can get out of control. The authorities believe they know how to isolate and contain. That is all we are being allowed to know from the powers that be.

oh before i forget this - the government of Canada the public health agency says YES IT CAN BE TRANSMITTED using AN AIRBORNE technique -

"INFECTIOUS DOSE: Viral hemorrhagic fevers have an infectious dose of 1 - 10 organisms by aerosol in non-human primates.

ONE viral particle is 800 - 1000 nm long, with a uniform diameter of 80 nanometers. It contains a compartment that houses the gene structure, the "payload" being 20 - 30 nm in diameter, and is enveloped by a helical capsid, 40 - 50 nm in diameter, the sheath..

It's word play again, nobody is going to deliberately infect a human by an aerosol cause that would be in-humane, but they do it to their lab animals all the time..


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Possibly something only I would pay attention to is this very small obvious statement meant for research scientists to understand more about this virus. This isn't your normal Ebola strain.. which basically means all the statistical historical reports circulating around all the mass media and social media are missing something important.. just a few small dots..


EPIDEMIOLOGY: Occurs mainly in areas surrounding rain forests in equatorial Africa Footnote 10 with the exception of Reston, which has been documented to originate in the Philippines. No predispositions to infection have been identified among infected persons.

The largest recorded ebolavirus outbreak to date began in March 2014, with initial cases reported in Guinea and then additional cases identified in the surrounding regions (Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria). A new strain of the ZEBOV species was identified as the causative agent of the outbreak

Since "words" seem to be mis-understood what an Aerosol may be, here is a PDF that one can look at and see some pictures.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/259208459_A_new_methodology_for_studying_dynamics_of_aerosol_particles_in_sneeze_and_cough_using_a_d igital_high-vision_high-speed_video_system_and_vector_analyses

Click the link on the right, for FULL-TEXT or DOWNLOAD to view the article. It is OPEN ACCESS freely available on-line.


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When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days

[Bob]

PATHOGEN SAFETY DATA SHEET - INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCES
SECTION I - INFECTIOUS AGENT

NAME: Ebolavirus

SYNONYM OR CROSS REFERENCE: African haemorrhagic fever, Ebola haemorrhagic fever (EHF, Ebola HF), filovirus, EBO virus (EBOV), Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV), Sudan ebolavirus (SEBOV, SUDV), Ivory Coast ebolavirus (ICEBOV), Tai Forest ebolavirus (TAFV), Ebola-Reston (REBOV, EBO-R, Reston Virus, RESTV), Bundibugyo ebolavirus (BEBOV, BDBV), and Ebola virus disease (EVD) Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 3 Footnote 4.

CHARACTERISTICS: Ebola was discovered in 1976 and is a member of the Filoviridae family (previously part of Rhabdoviridae family, which were later given a family of their own based on their genetic structure). Five Ebola species have been identified: Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV), which was first identified in 1976 and is the most virulent; Sudan ebolavirus, (SEBOV); Tai Forest ebolavirus (formerly Ivory Coast ebolavirus); Ebola-Reston (REBOV), originating from the Philippines; and Bundibugyo ebolavirus (BEBOV), the most recent species discovered (2008) Footnote 1 Footnote 3 Footnote 5 Footnote 6 Footnote 7.

Ebola is an elongated filamentous virus, which can vary between 800 - 1000 nm in length, and can reach up to 14000 nm long (due to concatamerization) with a uniform diameter of 80 nm Footnote 2 Footnote 5 Footnote 8 Footnote 9. It contains a helical nucleocapsid (with a central axis), 20 - 30 nm in diameter, and is enveloped by a helical capsid, 40 - 50 nm in diameter, with 5 nm cross-striations Footnote 2 Footnote 5 Footnote 8 Footnote 9 Footnote 10. The pleomorphic viral fragment may take on several distinct shapes (e.g., in the shape of a "6", a "U", or a circle), and are contained within a lipid membrane Footnote 2 Footnote 5. Each virion contains a single-strand of non-segmented, negative-sense viral genomic RNA Footnote 5 Footnote 11.

SECTION II - HAZARD IDENTIFICATION

PATHOGENICITY/TOXICITY: Ebola virions enter host cells through endocytosis and replication occurs in the cytoplasm. Upon infection, the virus affects the host blood coagulative and immune defence system and leads to severe immunosuppression Footnote 10 Footnote 12. Early signs of infection are non-specific and flu-like, and may include sudden onset of fever, asthenia, diarrhea, headache, myalgia, arthralgia, vomiting, and abdominal pains Footnote 13. Less common early symptoms include conjunctival injection, sore throat, rashes, and bleeding. Shock, cerebral oedema, coagulation disorders, and secondary bacterial infection may co-occur later in infection Footnote 8. Haemorrhagic symptoms may begin 4 - 5 days after onset, including hemorrhagic conjunctivitis, pharyngitis, bleeding gums, oral/lip ulceration, hematemesis, melena, hematuria, epistaxis, and vaginal bleeding Footnote 14. Hepatocellular damage, marrow suppression (such as thrombocytopenia and leucopenia), serum transaminase elevation, and proteinuria may also occur. Persons that are terminally ill typically present with obtundation, anuria, shock, tachypnea, normothermia to hypothermia, arthralgia, and ocular diseases Footnote 15. Haemorrhagic diathesis is often accompanied by hepatic damage and renal failure, central nervous system involvement, and terminal shock with multi-organ failure Footnote 1 Footnote 2. Contact with the virus may also result in symptoms such as severe acute viral illness, malaise, and maculopapular rash. Pregnant women will usually abort their foetuses and experience copious bleeding Footnote 2 Footnote 16. Fatality rates range between 50 - 100%, with most dying of hypovolemic shock and multisystem organ failure Footnote 17.

Pathogenicity between species of Ebola does not differ greatly in that they have all been associated with hemorrhagic fever outbreaks in humans (excluding Reston) and non-human primates. The Ebola-Zaire and Sudan strains are especially known for their virulence with up to 90% fatality rate Footnote 18, with reduced virulence noted in the Tai Forest ebolavirus and the more recently discovered Bundibugyo strain, which caused a single outbreak in Uganda Footnote 6 Footnote 7. Bundibugyo was the outbreak virus in Isiro, Democratic Republic of Congo, in 2012. Ebola-Reston was isolated from cynomolgus monkeys from the Philippines in 1989 and is less pathogenic in non-human primates. Ebola-Reston virus appears to be non-pathogenic in humans, with reported health effects limited to serological evidence of exposure as identified in 4 animal handlers working with infected non-human primates Footnote 19.

EPIDEMIOLOGY: Occurs mainly in areas surrounding rain forests in equatorial Africa Footnote 10 with the exception of Reston, which has been documented to originate in the Philippines Footnote 7. No predispositions to infection have been identified among infected persons.

The largest recorded ebolavirus outbreak to date began in March 2014, with initial cases reported in Guinea and then additional cases identified in the surrounding regions (Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria). A new strain of the ZEBOV species was identified as the causative agent of the outbreak Footnote 16 Footnote 21 Footnote 22.

HOST RANGE: Humans, various monkey species, chimpanzees, gorillas, baboons, and duikers are natural animal hosts for ebolavirus Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 5 Footnote 22 Footnote 23 Footnote 24 Footnote 25 Footnote 26 Footnote 27 Footnote 28 Footnote 29 Footnote 30 Footnote 31. Serological evidence of immunity markers to ebolavirus in serum collected from domesticated dogs suggests asymptomatic infection is plausible, likely following exposure to infected humans or animal carrion Footnote 32 Footnote 33. The Ebolavirus genome was discovered in two species of rodents and one species of shrew living in forest border areas, raising the possibility that these animals may be intermediary hosts Footnote 34. Experimental studies of the virus have been done using mouse, pig, guinea pig, and hamster models, suggesting wild-type ebolavirus has limited pathogenicity in these models Footnote 35 Footnote 36.

Bats are considered to be a plausible reservoir for the virus. Serological evidence of infection with ebolavirus (antibody detection to EBOV, ZEBOV, and/or REBOV) has been reported in fruit bats collected from woodland and forested areas near Ghana and Gabon, with reduced frequency of isolation from bats collected in mainland China and Bangladesh Footnote 37 Footnote 38 Footnote 39 Footnote 40.

INFECTIOUS DOSE: Viral hemorrhagic fevers have an infectious dose of 1 - 10 organisms by aerosol in non-human primates Footnote 41.

MODE OF TRANSMISSION: In an outbreak, it is hypothesized that the first patient becomes infected as a result of contact with an infected animal Footnote 22. Person-to-person transmission occurs via close personal contact with an infected individual or their body fluids during the late stages of infection or after death Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 22 Footnote 42. Nosocomial infections can occur through contact with infected body fluids for example due to the reuse of unsterilized syringes, needles, or other medical equipment contaminated with these fluids Footnote 1 Footnote 2. Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals Footnote 2 Footnote 10 Footnote 43.

In laboratory settings, non-human primates exposed to aerosolized ebolavirus from pigs have become infected, however, airborne transmission has not been demonstrated between non-human primates Footnote 1 Footnote 10 Footnote 15 Footnote 44 Footnote 45. Viral shedding has been observed in nasopharyngeal secretions and rectal swabs of pigs following experimental inoculation Footnote 29 Footnote 30.

INCUBATION PERIOD: Two to 21 days Footnote 1 Footnote 15 Footnote 17.

COMMUNICABILITY: Communicable as long as blood, body fluids or organs, contain the virus. Ebolavirus has been isolated from semen 61 to 82 days after the onset of illness, and transmission through semen has occurred 7 weeks after clinical recovery Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 59 Footnote 60.

SECTION III - DISSEMINATION

RESERVOIR: The natural reservoir of Ebola is unknown Footnote 1 Footnote 2. Antibodies to the virus have been found in the serum of domestic guinea pigs and wild rodents, with no relation to human transmission Footnote 34 Footnote 47. Serum antibodies and viral RNA have been identified in some bat species, suggesting bats may be a natural reservoir Footnote 37 Footnote 38 Footnote 39 Footnote 40.

ZOONOSIS: Zoonosis between humans and animal is suspected Footnote 2 Footnote 22 Footnote 37.

VECTORS: Unknown.

SECTION IV - STABILITY AND VIABILITY

All information available on stability and viability comes from peer-reviewed literature sources depicting experimental findings and is intended to support local risk assessments in a laboratory setting.

DRUG SUSCEPTIBILITY: Unknown. Although clinical trials have been completed, no vaccine has been approved for treatment of ebolavirus. Similarly, no post-exposure measures have been reported as effective in treating ebolavirus infection in humans although several studies have been completed in animals to determine the efficacy of various treatments.

DRUG RESISTANCE: There are no known antiviral treatments available for human infections.

SUSCEPTIBILITY TO DISINFECTANTS: Ebolavirus is susceptible to 3% acetic acid, 1% glutaraldehyde, alcohol-based products, and dilutions (1:10-1:100 for ≥10 minutes) of 5.25% household bleach (sodium hypochlorite), and calcium hypochlorite (bleach powder) Footnote 48 Footnote 49 Footnote 50 Footnote 62 Footnote 63. The WHO recommendations for cleaning up spills of blood or body fluids suggest flooding the area with a 1:10 dilutions of 5.25% household bleach for 10 minutes for surfaces that can tolerate stronger bleach solutions (e.g., cement, metal) Footnote 62. For surfaces that may corrode or discolour, they recommend careful cleaning to remove visible stains followed by contact with a 1:100 dilution of 5.25% household bleach for more than 10 minutes.

PHYSICAL INACTIVATION: Ebola are moderately thermolabile and can be inactivated by heating for 30 minutes to 60 minutes at 60°C, boiling for 5 minutes, or gamma irradiation (1.2 x106 rads to 1.27 x106 rads) combined with 1% glutaraldehyde Footnote 10 Footnote 48 Footnote 50. Ebolavirus has also been determined to be moderately sensitive to UVC radiation Footnote 51.

SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: Filoviruses have been reported capable to survive for weeks in blood and can also survive on contaminated surfaces, particularly at low temperatures (4°C) Footnote 52 Footnote 61. One study could not recover any Ebolavirus from experimentally contaminated surfaces (plastic, metal or glass) at room temperature Footnote 61. In another study, Ebolavirus dried onto glass, polymeric silicone rubber, or painted aluminum alloy is able to survive in the dark for several hours under ambient conditions (between 20 and 250C and 30–40% relative humidity) (amount of virus reduced to 37% after 15.4 hours), but is less stable than some other viral hemorrhagic fevers (Lassa) Footnote 53. When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days Footnote 61. This information is based on experimental findings only and not based on observations in nature. This information is intended to be used to support local risk assessments in a laboratory setting.

A study on transmission of ebolavirus from fomites in an isolation ward concludes that the risk of transmission is low when recommended infection control guidelines for viral hemorrhagic fevers are followed Footnote 64. Infection control protocols included decontamination of floors with 0.5% bleach daily and decontamination of visibly contaminated surfaces with 0.05% bleach as necessary.

SECTION V - FIRST AID / MEDICAL

SURVEILLANCE: Definitive diagnosis can be reached rapidly in an appropriately equipped laboratory using a multitude of approaches, including RT-PCR to detect viral RNA, ELISA based techniques to detect anti-Ebola antibodies or viral antigens, immunoelectron microscopy to detect ebolavirus particles in tissues and cells, and indirect immunofluorescence to detect antiviral antibodies Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 14 Footnote 41. It is useful to note that the Marburg virus is morphologically indistinguishable from the ebolavirus, and laboratory surveillance of Ebola is extremely hazardous Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 14 Footnote 54. Please see the interim biosafety guidelines for laboratories handling specimens from patients under investigation for EVD for more information.

Note: All diagnostic methods are not necessarily available in all countries.

FIRST AID/TREATMENT: There is no effective antiviral treatment Footnote 27 Footnote 37. Instead, treatment is supportive, and is directed at maintaining organ function and electrolyte balance and combating haemorrhage and shock Footnote 22 Footnote 55.

IMMUNIZATION: None Footnote 27.

PROPHYLAXIS: None. Management of the Ebola virus is solely based on isolation and barrier-nursing with symptomatic and supportive treatments Footnote 8.

SECTION VI - LABORATORY HAZARDS

LABORATORY-ACQUIRED INFECTIONS: One reported near-fatal case following a minute finger prick in an English laboratory (1976) Footnote 56. A Swiss zoologist contracted Ebola virus after performing an autopsy on a chimpanzee in 1994 Footnote 2 Footnote 57. An incident occurred in Germany in 2009 when a laboratory scientist pricked herself with a needle that had just been used on a mouse infected with Ebola; however, human infection was not confirmed. Additional incidents were recorded in the US in 2004, and a fatal case in Russia in 2004 Footnote 8.

SOURCES/SPECIMENS: Blood, serum, urine, respiratory and throat secretions, semen, and organs or their homogenates from human or animal hosts Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 53. Human or animal hosts, including non-human primates, may represent a further source of infection Footnote 54.

PRIMARY HAZARDS: Accidental parenteral inoculation, respiratory exposure to infectious aerosols/droplets, and/or direct contact with skin or mucous membranes Footnote 54.

SPECIAL HAZARDS: Work with, or exposure to, infected non-human primates, rodents, or their carcasses represents a risk of human infection Footnote 54.

SECTION VII - EXPOSURE CONTROLS / PERSONAL PROTECTION

RISK GROUP CLASSIFICATION: Risk Group 4 Footnote 58.

CONTAINMENT REQUIREMENTS: Containment Level 4 facilities, equipment, and operational practices for work involving infectious or potentially infectious materials, animals, and cultures. Please see the interim biosafety guidelines for laboratories handling specimens from patients under investigation for EVD for more information.

PROTECTIVE CLOTHING: Personnel entering the laboratory must remove street clothing, including undergarments, and jewellery, and change into dedicated laboratory clothing and shoes, or don full coverage protective clothing (i.e., completely covering all street clothing). Additional protection may be worn over laboratory clothing when infectious materials are directly handled, such as solid-front gowns with tight fitting wrists, gloves, and respiratory protection. Eye protection must be used where there is a known or potential risk of exposure to splashes.

OTHER PRECAUTIONS: All activities with infectious material should be conducted in a biological safety cabinet (BSC) in combination with a positive pressure suit, or within a class III BSC line. Centrifugation of infected materials must be carried out in closed containers placed in sealed safety cups, or in rotors that are unloaded in a biological safety cabinet. The integrity of positive pressure suits must be routinely checked for leaks. The use of needles, syringes, and other sharp objects should be strictly limited. Open wounds, cuts, scratches, and grazes should be covered with waterproof dressings. Additional precautions should be considered with work involving animal activities.

SECTION VIII - HANDLING AND STORAGE

SPILLS: Allow aerosols to settle and, wearing protective clothing, gently cover spill with paper towels and apply suitable disinfectant, starting at the perimeter and working towards the centre. Allow sufficient contact time before clean-up.

DISPOSAL: Decontaminate all materials for disposal from the containment laboratory by steam sterilisation, chemical disinfection, incineration or by gaseous methods. Contaminated materials include both liquid and solid wastes.

STORAGE: In sealed, leak-proof containers that are appropriately labelled and locked in a Containment Level 4 laboratory.

SECTION IX - REGULATORY AND OTHER INFORMATION

REGULATORY INFORMATION: The import, transport, and use of pathogens in Canada is regulated under many regulatory bodies, including the Public Health Agency of Canada, Health Canada, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Environment Canada, and Transport Canada. Users are responsible for ensuring they are compliant with all relevant acts, regulations, guidelines, and standards.

UPDATED: August 2014.

PREPARED BY: Centre for Biosecurity, Public Health Agency of Canada.

Although the information, opinions and recommendations contained in this Pathogen Safety Data Sheet are compiled from sources believed to be reliable, we accept no responsibility for the accuracy, sufficiency, or reliability or for any loss or injury resulting from the use of the information. Newly discovered hazards are frequent and this information may not be completely up to date.


Public Health Agency of Canada, 2014



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[Bob]

btw, if anyone has any access to Brittany Maynard, that young girl with the brain tumor, please let her know Brincidofovir could probably help her - it is just one random act of kindness if it would work... tnx.

[TargeT]

I've had a Hemorrhagic fever TWICE now (two strains of dengue, there are 6 here on the islands... 4 more to go and I'm immune for life!) you don't cough, you don't sneeze, you feel like CRAP and move as little as possible (sure brings the contagious fluid movement to a minimum).
Ah - so you're not stating that Ebola (a hemorrhagic fever) couldn't be spread with a cough or a sneeze to someone close by.

Rather you're saying that such is not a significant risk, in part because victims don't cough or sneeze.

Yes, less so but still something to watch, the CDC does own patents on the virus (strange?) which has my spidey senses twinging a bit..



this is no where near a pandemic, it may be what is desired but it's NOT right now, its a small amount of cases currently.

... and you're saying that whatever the mechanisms of spreading this ... the spread is small right now (as best as we can tell ... realizing that the official stats may be an order of magnitude off, either way.)

===

There is also an issue over the meaning of the word "airborne". The CDC (as in this page on "Transmission-Based Precautions" (http://www.cdc.gov/HAI/settings/outpatient/basic-infection-control-prevention-plan-2011/transmission-based-precautions.html)) distinguishes between transmission of a pathogen by "the droplet route" and by "airborne route". A measles virus can come off an infected patients skin directly into the air, with no coughing or sneezing involved. The CDC calls that "airborne".

By that technical definition of "airborne", it may well be that Ebola is not airborne.


But adamant claims over whether Ebola is or is not airborne, without being clear whether (a) one is using the ordinary definition of that term, which for most people would include "the droplet route", or (b) one is using the CDC distinctions between airborne and droplet routes, are less effective, in my view, in increasing our shared understanding.

yes, not being airborne is a strange stance to take, since it can be airborne in a liquid state (which is less contagious when compared to other airborne vector diseases).


There is a lot of money to be made off this and the CDC involvement (and simultaneously owning the patents on this virus) is a very interesting situation.

The fear generated by the every media source (and I DO shudder when I see that sort of alignment, there are hardly ANY dissenting opinions on this... WHY?) will be enough for the CDC to profit greatly, along with other "big pharma".

It's a very interesting situation currently, one that bears watching; but not fear (in my opinion) the case count is so low (even with generous error margins figured in).

we shall see how this unfolds.



Before the most recent patient died there were two previous cases of Ebola in the US that survived... so 3 cases 1 death so far, lets see what tomorrows spin gives us.

[Bob]

This is spelled out in the OP, the first post: :focus:

Is this current outbreak "accidental", coincidental, a BW "demonstration" - what do you think?

This THREAD IS NOT about treatment or "cure claims" using unproven remedies for the Hemorrhagic Fevers; and this thread is not for Silver discussion, or nano-particles.

It is not for arguing semantics, or dialog to derail the focus of the thread.

It is to discuss specifically what it asks about in the thread title, accidental natural or deliberate bio-weapon, and if so, what proofs do we have that such could be natural or accidental or deliberate.

WHO would be making a BIO-WEAPON, historically, and why - that is a valid discussion.

Understanding how the Hemorrhagic Fevers do their damage would be appropriate..

A brief mention of what one has used personally as an effective treatment for a Hemorrhagic Fever viruses would be interesting and helpful, as it would apply directly to the thread TITLE, the subject.. If the treatment can help with other virus infections, and one has used it, demonstrate how it helped. And how people can find more information.

An OUTBREAK of the FEVERS (we are interested in the Hemorrhagic Fevers in this thread) is important to know about, where, what happened historically and WHY. If such happens, or if a CASE appears for instance in Europe or the North American or South American Continent, Australia, Asia... it should be posted in this thread (if known about). Information so that people can take steps to protect themselves is needed, from a potential outbreak.

BIG QUESTIONS TO ASK: What types of FEVERS exist, and how are they transmitted, what is the reservoir? Where are they spreading and in what concentrations (presenting HOW?)

Can a hemorrhagic virus exist on a surface, if so how long.

Can a hemorrhagic virus be sprayed? Does it have to be coughed, or can it be frozen, then sprayed? Who would have an incentive for doing such, who has the background to develop such and why? How can people be informed to learn what to watch for.

If it came from BATS or rodents, do people eat or are otherwise exposed to these vectors?

Understanding - this thread is about trying to do public service by providing useful Education hopefully valid education will help to change behaviour for the better.

PLEASE let's keep this thread doing a good service.


SOLUTIONS that look plausible or demonstrated as possible -

Going through this thread, there have been various Treatments/prevention regimine observed to be effective against filoviridae (possibly other viruses too as described in this thread -

Please refer to posts:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post882026 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=882026&viewfull=1#post882026)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=870810&viewfull=1#post870810

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=871304&viewfull=1#post871304

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post871653 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=868836&viewfull=1#post868836)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post868836 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=868836&viewfull=1#post868836)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post862232
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=862232&viewfull=1#post862232)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=862598&viewfull=1#post862598

Early monoclonal antibody work - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post866626 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=866626&viewfull=1#post866626)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post861238 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=866626&viewfull=1#post866626)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post861247
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=861247&viewfull=1#post861247)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post861343 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=861343&viewfull=1#post861343)

I want to remind folks to take a look at our Founder's thread started at:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75776-THE-HOT-ZONE-A-chilling-1995-book-about-Ebola&p=886496&viewfull=1#post886496 and look at the PDF that he recommended reading, it is a short read and it talks about something that is not far fetched. It is contextual, and I believe what Bill says, this subject is something that needs proper clear thinking, and attention paid to it, to understand, to learn, to grow and my hopes are to find a solution not just to viral outbreaks, but to understand why one would develop such a weapon, or allow a disease to be used to manipulate humans for whatever purposes.. It's not for pointing fingers at TPTB but to understand and solve the fear that leads to the creations of such, to solve that..

As seen all over this forum and many others, they call it fear porn. And that's it, everyone gets their rush off the argument, and spends their time not solving anything, just venting. What is in the mind, the human condition, or the psychopathic condition or the sadistic mindset that goes after people because they are different, or bright or stupid, cause they can? What happens when that is elevated to the position of a dictator in some country far away we never hope to visit, but can arm chair complain about ?

All solution steps come from identifying what is happening, squarely viewing all aspects of the issue, understanding, then allowing compassion to appear, looking at a survival of the planet, the species, and a balance with all life. That is the ground rules for responsibility. First step, see what's happening, then look at the potential for solution. Then move forward from there with compassion..

[Violet]

Bob, there are two more cases that I have no sources for but that need attention. One is to do with refugees from lower Africa and the other with pilgrimage in SA now reaching its end.

There has been an influx of African refugees to North-Africa for years now. This is well-documented and North African countries work together with the EU to control this affair. I'm intentionally not calling it a problem because refugees are rarely the source of the misery they seek to escape from. They either stay in the North African country or cross the seas. It's hard to get a good image of the situation because these people live hidden for fear of being arrested and sent back. It is very well possible that the composition of this group of refugees now includes people fleeing from ebola infected countries. I'm not aware of North African countries openly announcing tighter controls. This is both a problem for North Africa, in the first place, and then also Europe and then the rest of the world.

Secondly, there are different pilgrimage places and traditions all of which under these circumstances are not ideal places to be as are other large (international) mixed gatherings. Currently the biggest one is ongoing in SA which has standard obligatory vaccins for pilgrims. They denied visas to pilgrims from ebola infected countries and the efficacity of this measure will only be known when the pilgrims start returning to their home countries towards the end of October.


OP Solutions Link 3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=871304&viewfull=1#post871304) reminded me of http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20571172. Related?

[SilentFeathers]

May be true, may not be true.......

3zb41sCOqPw

VIDEO Description:


Published on Oct 8, 2014
Evidence now suggests the NBC cameraman contracted Ebola via airborne exposure as did the Spanish nurse. In this clip Dr. Rima Laibow CONFIRMS that Ebola is not only airborne but it is weaponized.

[Roisin]

It finally looks like some long time Ebola researchers are finally coming out of the woodwork saying things about this virus that are contrary to what those gov't appointed medical "experts" who speak to the media have been saying.

Here's an example of an article in mainstream news published online this morning that's actually being more up front about the facts about this virus..... facts that concerned citizens on Ebola already know.

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed

Sharelines:

* Ebola researcher says he would not rule out possibility that the virus spreads through air in tight quarters

* 'There are too many unknowns here,' a virologist says of how Ebola may spread

* Ebola researcher says he thinks there is a chance asymptomatic people could spread the virus

Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1

[SilentFeathers]

It finally looks like some long time Ebola researchers are finally coming out of the woodwork saying things about this virus that are contrary to what those gov't appointed medical "experts" who speak to the media have been saying.

Here's an example of an article in mainstream news published online this morning that's actually being more up front about the facts about this virus..... facts that concerned citizens on Ebola already know.

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed

Sharelines:

* Ebola researcher says he would not rule out possibility that the virus spreads through air in tight quarters

* 'There are too many unknowns here,' a virologist says of how Ebola may spread

* Ebola researcher says he thinks there is a chance asymptomatic people could spread the virus

Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1

With all the double speak and ridiculous actions we've seen lately, and now with people showing symptoms that don't have a clue how they could of caught it as they were wearing serious protective gear, it is best to err on the side of caution and seriously consider this virus is VERY possibly transmitted like the flu and or pox virus's, etc.....(thus being airborne)

[Roisin]

Bob, there are two more cases that I have no sources for but that need attention. One is to do with refugees from lower Africa and the other with pilgrimage in SA now reaching its end.

There has been an influx of African refugees to North-Africa for years now. This is well-documented and North African countries work together with the EU to control this affair. I'm intentionally not calling it a problem because refugees are rarely the source of the misery they seek to escape from. They either stay in the North African country or cross the seas. It's hard to get a good image of the situation because these people live hidden for fear of being arrested and sent back. It is very well possible that the composition of this group of refugees now includes people fleeing from ebola infected countries. I'm not aware of North African countries openly announcing tighter controls. This is both a problem for North Africa, in the first place, and then also Europe and then the rest of the world.

Secondly, there are different pilgrimage places and traditions all of which under these circumstances are not ideal places to be as are other large (international) mixed gatherings. Currently the biggest one is ongoing in SA which has standard obligatory vaccins for pilgrims. They denied visas to pilgrims from ebola infected countries and the efficacity of this measure will only be known when the pilgrims start returning to their home countries towards the end of October.


OP Solutions Link 3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=871304&viewfull=1#post871304) reminded me of http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20571172. Related?


All we have to do is put ourselves in their positions, like people living in those slums in Liberia, to know that if there was even only a remote chance of getting out of those slums and hiking to North Africa to escape Ebola, we would do that.

So it seems to me that at this point in time, we have very little information on how many people from those slums are walking past borders in neighboring countries to escape Ebola.... yet, we also know that many of them may be infected with it.

[SilentFeathers]

Some of these "suspected cases" may in fact be CRISIS ACTORS.......go figure huh?

Hospitals secretly send in actors to fake symptoms, test staff (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/07/actors-fake-ebola-sypmtoms-test-hospitals/16847767/)

[thunder24]

posting this here, cause of title saying bio-weapon, this to me are signs of said such, if not hints or leaks to those with eyes to see it... mayb its just me...

Russia Today: Killer cost of Ebola: World Bank warns of $33bn doomsday scenario
http://rt.com/business/194408-total-cost-ebola-economy-africa/


The spread of Ebola presents a $33 billion threat to West African economies says the World Bank. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is pouring billions into halting the deadliest Ebola outbreak in history, from airport screenings to military aid in Africa. .....

In a worst case scenario, in the next four months there could be 1.4 million Ebola cases, according to a September 23 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This would be a 175-fold increase from the current 8,033 cases. So far 3,879 people have died from the outbreak, with the majority of deaths occurring in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone....
In the event of a ‘High Ebola’ scenario which sees the disease spreading to Ghana, Nigeria, and Senegal, it would cost the region $32.6 billion, or 3.3 percent of regional GDP. The region would lose $7.4 billion in 2014 and an additional $25.2 billion in 2015..

i find the 33's throughout the past "conspiracies" and continueing today..... mayb something mayb nothing, but just an observation....

[conk]

http://www.r-sw.com/custimages/dd395-Dead%20(site).jpg

And this is not even up to date!

[SilentFeathers]

History has somewhat proven that drills are sometimes, well, prophetic.......

Here's one yesterday in NC.


Marine Corps Air Station New River on Wednesday held a full-scale pandemic outbreak drill where health officials and Marines responded to a smallpox outbreak that “occurred” aboard the installation.

Officials decided to incorporate administering inoculations during the exercise so that it would more accurately portray an outbreak situation where medical personnel would be required to screen and administer vaccinations.

During the exercise, Marines from various squadrons aboard the station formed single file lines and filled out forms before getting their body temperatures taken by Navy corpsmen. From there, each Marine enters the building also known as the Point of Dispersion, or POD, where flu shots were given out.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/military/drill-focuses-on-pandemic-preparation-1.384166?tc=cr

Notice how they are filling out forms before even getting their temperature taken???? Then getting vaccinated.

Sounds like mandatory registering with Obamacare, getting your temperature taken, then getting a mandatory jab in the arm regardless if your feverish or not. (yes, I have an imagination, that often times comes in to being reality).....

[TargeT]

Some of these "suspected cases" may in fact be CRISIS ACTORS.......go figure huh?

Hospitals secretly send in actors to fake symptoms, test staff (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/07/actors-fake-ebola-sypmtoms-test-hospitals/16847767/)

This is more and more seeming to be another "operation" very possibly almost completely fake with just a few actual cases (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75801-EBOLA-HOAX-Only-First-Few-Cases-Were-Real-No-Pictures-from-This-Outbreak);

Don't worry though, when the OP comes back he will flood the thread with "updates" and push all these comments out of most peoples view and we can get back to the fear fest.

[SilentFeathers]

Some of these "suspected cases" may in fact be CRISIS ACTORS.......go figure huh?

Hospitals secretly send in actors to fake symptoms, test staff (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/07/actors-fake-ebola-sypmtoms-test-hospitals/16847767/)

This is more and more seeming to be another "operation" very possibly almost completely fake with just a few actual cases (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75801-EBOLA-HOAX-Only-First-Few-Cases-Were-Real-No-Pictures-from-This-Outbreak);

Don't worry though, when the OP comes back he will flood the thread with "updates" and push all these comments out of most peoples view and we can get back to the fear fest.

I personally think this is a manufactured crisis and rather quite real, killing more than just a few. there is more than enough evidence showing ebola is a real virus and more likely than not a bio-weapon created by a sick in the head agency, being used right now to cause chaos and fear. Most of the information Bob has posted basically backs up this "theory".

With that being said, it is very obvious to me that it (ebola) is being exploited for several other possible agenda's too, most of us here know this basically beyond any doubt....."never let a good crisis go to waste".

I don't think Bob is fear-mongering, he seems to be more a less posting every bit of information he can find on this subject. I personally think your recent comment is a cheap shot at him.

I do hear what you are saying though and this whole scenario does have a smell about it like Sandy Hook and what some other like events smelled like.

Hopefully this will help.....(I wrote this earlier today)


Every one needs to pay attention to something....I got bored with johnny quest and speed racer many years ago and started to pay attention to more things that seemed more real. Today, these things that once seemed more real have become even more real but quite unreal at the same time.
I have come to the conclusion that for some reason reality itself is becoming unreal, or appearing to be unreal, and things that are unreal are becoming or appearing to be real......
In short, there is a massive amount of manipulation and deception going on, more than ever before.....and those that are noticing this are considered insane and confused and those that play along with it and make no sense are considered sane........thus the real is unreal and the unreal is real.....
Confused yet????????????????????

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Seattle Times citing Ebola experts with concerns regarding the MSM saying Ebola is not airborne.
With good luck an airborne strain will lose some virulence due to the balance of nature, but with bad bad luck we could be wiped out lol...

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024723522_ebolatransmitxml.html

"Other public-health officials have voiced similar assurances, saying Ebola is spread only through physical contact with a symptomatic individual or their bodily fluids. “Ebola is not transmitted by the air. It is not an airborne infection,” said Dr. Edward Goodman of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, where the Liberian patient remains in critical condition.

Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature — and they are concerned about what is not known about the current strain. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts."