Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

[sheme]

Why we all assume that the original virus is the one we will end up with is beyond me- this is bio warfare -make no mistake. Why do you think they are being so sloppy about boarder control? so they can blame it on the third world.

What do you think all those coffins are for- tptw will up the virus to keep pace with their agenda- our only defence is to pre-empt their sick plans- disarm them with knowledge 50% mortality rate in the native African will translate to a higher percentage in the Caucasian population as we are all immune deficient/ aluminium strontium sprayed/Monsanto fed /sugar filled /meat eating sheep.

[Bob]

Texas and CDC says the Dallas (Frisco) deputy is testing NEGATIVE for Ebola - all clear for him..

[TargeT]

Don't worry though, when the OP comes back he will flood the thread with "updates" and push all these comments out of most peoples view and we can get back to the fear fest.

I personally think this is a manufactured crisis and rather quite real, killing more than just a few. there is more than enough evidence showing ebola is a real virus and more likely than not a bio-weapon created by a sick in the head agency, being used right now to cause chaos and fear. Most of the information Bob has posted basically backs up this "theory".

With that being said, it is very obvious to me that it (ebola) is being exploited for several other possible agenda's too, most of us here know this basically beyond any doubt....."never let a good crisis go to waste".

I don't think Bob is fear-mongering, he seems to be more a less posting every bit of information he can find on this subject. I personally think your recent comment is a cheap shot at him.

Yes, I definitely agree that Ebola is very real and people have died from it for sure, this recent "outbreak" has very little evidence, and quite a bit of the evidence presented seems to not be genuine.

As for the OP, one can update old posts (aka edit) and add new information to them with out constantly pushing out post after post, a troll tactic refereed to as "flooding" (not saying that is the case here, but the out come is the exact same thing). This continual "flooding" keeps this thread a lecture, not a discussion. A lecture can be done in one post with out "sweeping clear" the thread.

I went back to the first page and told myself I would stop as soon as I found a page that contained less than half the posts from Bob, here's my results:

Page# Posts from bob/total posts
1: 11/20
2: 15/20
3: 15/20
4: 11/20
5: 13/20
6: 12/20
7: 18/20
8: 14/20
9: 13/20
10: 16/20
11: 15/20
12: 16/20
13: 17/20
14: 15/20
15: 13/20
16: 13/20
17: 15/20
18: 13/20
19: 9/20 ---- I stopped here.

This is the clearest example of the "flooding" tactic I have ever seen, this should not be the way we discuss a potentially VERY SERIOUS topic like this.


I do hear what you are saying though and this whole scenario does have a smell about it like Sandy Hook and what some other like events smelled like.

It AT LEAST deserves discussion.

Look the above comments do not come lightly from me, I am not one to (historically) say things like this; but I'm going to "call a spade a spade" at this point as I think it needs to be addressed (we shall see what happens when (yet another) of my posts are reported) I'm quite shocked that anything I have posted is "reported" honestly, but that's very very off topic.



Hopefully this will help.....(I wrote this earlier today)


Every one needs to pay attention to something....I got bored with johnny quest and speed racer many years ago and started to pay attention to more things that seemed more real. Today, these things that once seemed more real have become even more real but quite unreal at the same time.
I have come to the conclusion that for some reason reality itself is becoming unreal, or appearing to be unreal, and things that are unreal are becoming or appearing to be real......
In short, there is a massive amount of manipulation and deception going on, more than ever before.....and those that are noticing this are considered insane and confused and those that play along with it and make no sense are considered sane........thus the real is unreal and the unreal is real.....
Confused yet????????????????????

I wonder if it is more manipulation than before or we are finally capable of seeing that which has always been there?

[Bob]

What does one do with large quantities of Ebola Waste in an Urban Situation?

(Source (http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Veolia-will-receive-Ebola-contaminated-items-from-5812221.php))

In the Texas situation, an experienced waste handler with incineration capability is used.

Disposal of hazardous wastes, such as biologically contaminated which wasn't incinerated at the hospital for instance has to be transported in secure containers, handled properly and then incinerated properly at a sufficiently high temperature.

"Contaminated household items from the Dallas man who died from Ebola virus exposure in West Africa will be destroyed at the Veolia Environmental Services incinerator in Port Arthur, its general manager said today.

"Mitch Osborne said Veolia will accept the shipments of bagged and containerized items from the apartment of Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian man who recently had visited his Liberian home, contracted the virus and returned to Dallas before symptoms developed.

"We are fully permitted for this," he said. "We believe this safely solves the problem for the material that's been stored in Dallas for the past week."


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Biological Waste Handling

The first steps are to protect oneself and others from splash contamination.

The general rule of thumb is chlorine bleach is the recommended liquid spray, followed by alcohol in the case of biologicals that have been spilled or are otherwise on a surface.

(from an earlier post from the Canadian public health service document describing the Ebola virus, and from a CDC document link here (http://www.cdc.gov/training/quicklearns/biosafety/))

Recognizing the Biosafety Levels

Although this is a very simple learning exercise, and is written for a laboratory setting, it can easily be applied to a hospital setting, a personal care setting, or a first responder setting..

This Quick Learn Lesson will take approximately 15 minutes to complete.

When you have completed this lesson, you will be able to recognize characteristics of the four biological safety levels.

In a minimal safety lab, these questions are often asked - the steps are IDENTIFY (we have said this frequently, identify, gather information, and understand what is happing -


Where in the lab would you complete your work? (where is exposure likely to happen)
What protective equipment and practices would you use? (how do you keep yourself safe)
How would you contain the microbe to limit contamination or accidental infection? (when a problem happens, being tired, or accident, what can you do, how do you do it?)


Again very obvious steps that should become routine - let say you are a health care worker and your work area is a hazard zone you were called into as a first responder. Do you know what to look for, do you have the safety plan?

A survey of hospital nurses recently conducted came back with the nurses' observations that they DID NOT KNOW what exactly to do, that they had general infection control practices ideas, for non-lethal types of biohazards, but didn't have a firm working understanding of how to deal with a Hemorrhagic fever virus. (i.e. Ebola in this particular instance)

Each level has specific controls for containment of microbes and biological agents. The primary risks that determine levels of containment are infectivity, severity of disease, transmissibility, and the nature of the work conducted. Origin of the microbe, or the agent in question, and the route of exposure are also important.

Each biosafety level has its own specific containment controls that are required for the following:

Laboratory practices
Safety equipment
Facility construction


http://www.cdc.gov/training/QuickLearns/biosafety/images/standard-micro-practices.png

The biosafety levels range from BSL-1 to BSL-4.
Each biosafety level builds on the controls of the level before it. Every microbiology laboratory, regardless of biosafety level, follows standard microbiological practices.

If you work in a lab that is designated a BSL-1, the microbes there are not known to consistently cause disease in healthy adults and present minimal potential hazard to laboratorians and the environment. An example of a microbe that is typically worked with at a BSL-1 is a nonpathogenic strain of E. coli.

Specific considerations for a BSL-1 laboratory include the following:

Laboratory practices

Standard microbiological practices are followed.
Work can be performed on an open lab bench or table
(lab coats, gloves, eye protection) are worn as needed.

Facility construction

A sink must be available for hand washing.
The lab should have doors to separate the working space with the rest of the facility. Pretty simple, but never-the-less, not to be taken for granted.

BSL-2 builds upon BSL-1.
If you work in a lab that is designated a BSL-2, the microbes there pose moderate hazards to laboratorians and the environment. The microbes are typically indigenous and associated with diseases of varying severity. An example of a microbe that is typically worked with at a BSL-2 laboratory is Staphylococcus aureus.

Getting a Staph infection like from MERSA could be really tragic though, tissue eating staph has resulted in limbs being amputated.. So the caution levels are higher, to avoid exposure.. Let's put this in VERY CLEAR perspective, MERSA potential, loosing limbs and dying from a body infections slowly eating away at the limbs, skin is considered ONLY LEVEL 2 !! Think about that for a minute how the protective levels are setup, if this is only LEVEL 2 what are the others all about?

The main safety difference in a LEVEL two facility with level 2 grade infectious agents is

All procedures that can cause infection from aerosols or splashes are performed within a biological safety cabinet (BSC)B.
An autoclave or an alternative method of decontamination is available for proper disposals.



http://www.cdc.gov/training/QuickLearns/biosafety/images/bsl-2-lab.jpg
Notice how this is setup to prevent splashes on the body, eyes, etc.

BSL-3 builds upon the containment requirements of BSL-2.

If you work in a lab that is designated BSL-3,
the microbes there can be either indigenous or exotic, and they can cause serious or potentially lethal disease through respiratory transmission.
Respiratory transmission is the inhalation route of exposure.

One example of a microbe that is typically worked with in a BSL-3 laboratory is Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the bacteria that causes tuberculosis.

Laboratory practices

Laboratorians are under medical surveillance and might receive immunizations for microbes they work with.
Access to the laboratory is restricted and controlled at all times.

Safety equipment


Appropriate PPE must be worn, and respirators might be requiredA.
All work with microbes must be performed within an appropriate BSCB.



http://www.cdc.gov/training/QuickLearns/biosafety/images/bsl-3b-lab.jpg

BSL-4 builds upon the containment requirements of BSL-3 and is the highest level of biological safety.

There are a small number of BSL-4 labs in the United States and around the world.

There is a very important reason for this.

The microbes in a BSL-4 lab are dangerous and exotic, posing a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections.

Infections caused by these microbes are frequently fatal and without treatment or vaccines.

Two examples of microbes worked with in a BSL-4 laboratory include Ebola and Marburg viruses.

In addition to BSL-3 considerations, BSL-4 laboratories have the following containment requirements:

Laboratory practices


Change clothing before entering.
Shower upon exiting.
Decontaminate all materials before exiting.


Safety equipment

All work with the microbe must be performed within an appropriate Class III BSC , or by wearing a full body, air-supplied, positive pressure A suit.


http://www.cdc.gov/training/QuickLearns/biosafety/images/bsl-4-lab.jpg

THIS IS WHAT MUST BE USED TO DEAL SAFELY WITH EBOLA AND MARBURG

Ignoring, poo-pooing discounting, the nature of pathogens is a dis-service to people who need to know how to prepare safely, perform safely and not risk contamination of themselves and others, or the environment.

Click this link: http://www.cdc.gov/training/quicklearns/biosafety/ for the above source page to this material in the safety exercise.

[Mini Flash]

Here is Flash writing: I am sorry Target, I thanked you with Mini Flash cause i stole her computer lol (my daughter's). I thank the that you said this topic should be discussed seriously and that we are more capable of seeing that which has always been there.

However, I am also very aware that nurses are reading Avalon, reporters are reading Avalon and these threads on Ebola, and a general public as well. I am very aware that Bob does not read only for Avalon members but for specific targets as well such as the medical personnel and reporters. He is also an expert in the biomedical fields, expert to be trusted. Few of them around.

So anything he does has my full support and i do not take as flooding in anyways, but rather as wanting to help a specific subset of the population to start with, in the medical field, then a larger subset, that is us, and mostly to have the reporters report the truth for once.

Also, I am more and more convinced that the target is the USA and the developed world. I was reading the excellent and extremely well explained thread on financial fraud from the 6 major American banks, to big to fail, and some British ones, and the Libor and other pending fraud examinations that are yet larger than libor coming out, where bankers and banks get out from court scotch free. While cities and govenrments are directly put into debts because of these frauds. This is describing the destruction of the rule of law, throughout the whole system, the rule of law that has built the western world.

Therefore, I think that Ebola and financial frauds are linked. It is appalling how Ebola is taken care of, how little is done to combat it in Africa and how slow the response is. The countries effected should have been closed down with all the western help necessary to feed its people through air in the meantime and the adequate medical response. But i bet that this kind of militaristic approach will be reserved for the Western world, once the virus is widespread. It will also serve to deflect attention from the side parallel civilisation that has developed within the dark projects and dark monies environments and that is ready to take off without us (a last blast of money coming their way is needed, therefore the relentless frauds).

Am I nut to think that way? I do not think so anymore.

Do we have to react? of course we should - and the reporter should tooo, their kids life is at stake as well.

[Naniu]

Would it be wise to assume that agencies will advertise a vaccine to help combat Ebola ? would it be wise to avoid such a vaccine ? ...

N

[sheme]

Personally I thank Bob for all his efforts we are lucky to have his contributions, like he said it is a problem to get rid of Ebola effluent, now what a practical person he is invaluable gentleman with no other agenda than to help clear up s... as it presents it'self. I for one appreciate him hugely.

[SilentFeathers]

We must also remember that almost every event especially since 911 is like swiss cheese (full of holes). Which makes this chunk of cheese necessary to be examined thoroughly from every angle possible.

Also we all here know how sick these bastards are and what they are capable of; much in this thread points to bio-weapon and now that this is coming to the US we have : sick bastards + bio-weapon = YIKES!!!!!

This thread is basically a historical document from March with most of the posts posted by BOB...a lecture? perhaps...... :)

[Bob]

Would it be wise to assume that agencies will advertise a vaccine to help combat Ebola ? would it be wise to avoid such a vaccine ? ...

N

I think that's an excellent question - that they will want that viral protein inside the body. Claiming that is the only way an anti-body can be created by the natural killer cells to go after that protein.. BUT think about this..

What we have seen, posted earlier, is the EBOLA, or more specifically some of the protein sequences of the Filoviri, (string like viruses), are incorporated in the dna of some primates (http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1001191), not expressed just yet, but those signatures exist - think genes as "energetic signatures".

I asked this question, would having "alien" dna (irregular other genome source), or RNA, or other genes that don't normally DO anything, i.e. some have called "junk" dna to mean anything in the over all scheme of things? If for instance a replication error happens, and some of the "junk dna" is brought into being reproduced, what does that lead to? One becoming weaker/stronger, more prone, or less to a particular sickness, a poorly weakened species? IF it didn't kill the organism and was able to be reproduced into subsequent progeny, (kids), what will they be carrying from there on? Is there a genetic experimentation happening by the virus itself (i.e. the "natural" question in the OP).

I don't like this virus stuff especially with ebola or marburg proteins being incorporated in human cells (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC453134/).. Already it may be present in different groups of people, as I said, I haven't yet done a study, but just to locate data saying that filoviruses are incorporated in some part in the cells and being reproduced...

SO will we become more hypersensitized and that our own immune system will start attacking these junk dna sequences, especially with the EBOLA and MARBUG proteins in our own DNA?

THAT worries me a LOT and I BET none of those vaccine makers have looked at the "JUNK" dna to see if the bug they are trying to make us "immune to", would not only create an attack on ebola or marburg, it could start a massive autoimmune disease (http://www.business2community.com/health-wellness/prenatal-exposure-viruses-may-cause-type-1-diabetes-autoimmune-diseases-01031851) in who receives that VACCINE...

I personally would advocate anti-viral prophylactic molecules which don't damage the kidneys. IN a few threads we have listed substances which are able to function as antivirals that help other issues in the human. Generally a win situation while dealing with Ebola (non-vaccine).

[Matisse]

I also would like to thank Bob for all of the valuable information that he has been providing with this post, and in no way flooding the thread or fear mongering. Information is a good thing to share, the more people informed the better. Whether a false flag, people using the crisis for other agendas, etc. we still need to be aware that this is a very nasty virus and possibly militarized. The nurse infected here in Spain, after testing positive twice with ebola, was transported from one hospital to another in an ambulence which continued in sevice for 15 hours longer after transporting her before being disinfected...

[Naniu]

what about Ebola's immunity to oxygen rich enviroments ? would oxygen therapy be beneficial as a deterant or part tandem cure ?

N

[phillipbbg]

Time to use this sort of screening at airports worldwide for early detection of Ebola patients, they could also sweep the aircraft before each flight for flight staff health and safety concerns.

Medical detection dogs: how they could save our lives in a sniff

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/269099.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdnZ9G9jojc

[TargeT]

Here is Flash writing: I am sorry Target, I thanked you with Mini Flash cause i stole her computer lol (my daughter's). I thank the that you said this topic should be discussed seriously and that we are more capable of seeing that which has always been there.

However, I am also very aware that nurses are reading Avalon, reporters are reading Avalon and these threads on Ebola, and a general public as well. I am very aware that Bob does not read only for Avalon members but for specific targets as well such as the medical personnel and reporters.

Yes, I also write for a larger audience, which sometimes can cause confusion when I reply to a person but direct my thought to the "greater" audience; this is a public forum and every post should be viewed from a public perspective as it is created. So I can see how it's possible that he is simply aggregating information into one spot for others to view, I simply take issue with the method, not necessarily the action.

Part of the problem is Bob is doing very little discussing, and a lot of cut'n pasting, the title of this thread is posed as a question, which infers discussion... perhaps the title of the thread should be changed to "EBOLA AGGREGATION THREAD" or "LEARN ABOUT WHAT NEWS AGENCIES REPORT ON EBOLA" or some similar lecture inference.


He is also an expert in the biomedical fields, expert to be trusted. Few of them around.

So anything he does has my full support and i do not take as flooding in anyways, but rather as wanting to help a specific subset of the population to start with, in the medical field, then a larger subset, that is us, and mostly to have the reporters report the truth for once.

I personally would be very careful with statements like this, this type of thinking is called "appeal to authority" (one of the top Logical Fallacies). We all have access to google and with a bit of work anyone can sound like an expert in any field, I have had people ask if I'm involved in the nuclear field due to some of my past posts on things I have simply spent time understanding via google.



Also, I am more and more convinced that the target is the USA and the developed world. I was reading the excellent and extremely well explained thread on financial fraud from the 6 major American banks, to big to fail, and some British ones, and the Libor and other pending fraud examinations that are yet larger than libor coming out, where bankers and banks get out from court scotch free. While cities and govenrments are directly put into debts because of these frauds. This is describing the destruction of the rule of law, throughout the whole system, the rule of law that has built the western world.

yes, a bit off topic but the above does seem to fit in with the coming (planned) power shift from the West (USA) to the East (CHINA).


Therefore, I think that Ebola and financial frauds are linked. It is appalling how Ebola is taken care of, how little is done to combat it in Africa and how slow the response is. The countries effected should have been closed down with all the western help necessary to feed its people through air in the meantime and the adequate medical response.

That would be RATHER hard to do if there is no outbreak "epidemic" of ebola in those countries and the majority of this is a manufactured "fluff" piece.... this is discussion worthy as too many things "dont add up" right now.


But i bet that this kind of militaristic approach will be reserved for the Western world, once the virus is widespread. It will also serve to deflect attention from the side parallel civilisation that has developed within the dark projects and dark monies environments and that is ready to take off without us (a last blast of money coming their way is needed, therefore the relentless frauds).

Am I nut to think that way? I do not think so anymore.

Do we have to react? of course we should - and the reporter should tooo, their kids life is at stake as well.

These could be tied into it, definitely. I do believe this "ebola" topic is being used as a screen, but on a much less over arching scale as you surmise (you see you are speaking with the belief that the ebola break out is exactly as we are told it is, when has that EVER been the case? it is either MUCH WORSE or MUCH LESS than we are told; hardly ever is any topic reported with out exaggerating or suppressing... as it's been said before the tactics of the MSM (almost every source that the OP has posted falls neatly into this category) distracting from LIBOR (a 350 TRILLION DOLLAR scandal) is actually a perfect use for this level of MSM theater.


The nurse infected here in Spain, after testing positive twice with ebola, was transported from one hospital to another in an ambulence which continued in sevice for 15 hours longer after transporting her before being disinfected...

An alternate way to view the spain incident is:
A single case being leveraged for fear, what better way to "sell" a fluff piece, much like the case in Texas here in the US.

Strange protocol was followed, people read the stories and think "What were they thinking releasing him from the hospital while he is so sick" or with the Nurse there are similar issues with the story.

When things don't add up and cause a "wtf" moment, you NEED to examine them further and not just from the idea you are committed to, look at ALL angles objectively or you are doing your self and anyone you communicate with a disservice.

Too many things are adding up to a question mark right now.... to NOT follow the questions to a satisfying conclusion is a mistake.

[Bob]

Time to use this sort of screening at airports worldwide for early detection of Ebola patients, they could also sweep the aircraft before each flight for flight staff health and safety concerns.

Medical detection dogs: how they could save our lives in a sniff

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/269099.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdnZ9G9jojc

THAT is the best suggestion I have heard yet for the screening - VERY WELL DONE !!

[Bob]

Thanks for the positive thoughts Matisse, i think information suppression is one of the big issues. Not knowing the background, one is stuck having to listen to "authority" and have to trust. Who we trust then is part of the "drama" happening, who can "convince us" to watch their show. I happen to trust our forum's Founder Bill Ryan, and I do my own research, and if I find something that is useful I will make it available. That's just me. I care about helping with education.

I see that the nurse has been taking a bit of a down turn, and the two doctors treating her are now are being watched.

"The deterioration in the nurse’s condition came as the authorities announced that one more health care worker had been quarantined, in addition to three others who were isolated overnight at the same hospital where the nurse works. 80 others are being watched. Seven people are now quarantined at the Madrid hospital, Carlos III, that Spain has designated to handle Ebola cases.

Is that similar to the data you are hearing where you are?

[Matisse]

Thanks for the positive thoughts Matisse, i think information suppression is one of the big issues. Not knowing the background, one is stuck having to listen to "authority" and have to trust. Who we trust then is part of the "drama" happening, who can "convince us" to watch their show. I happen to trust our forum's Founder Bill Ryan, and I do my own research, and if I find something that is useful I will make it available. That's just me. I care about helping with education.

I see that the nurse has been taking a bit of a down turn, and the two doctors treating her are now are being watched.

"The deterioration in the nurse’s condition came as the authorities announced that one more health care worker had been quarantined, in addition to three others who were isolated overnight at the same hospital where the nurse works. 80 others are being
watched. Seven people are now quarantined at the Madrid hospital, Carlos III, that Spain has designated to handle Ebola cases.

Is that similar to the data you are hearing where you are?



Yes she now is in a very critical state, they aren,t saying much more because she has specificaly asked that any specific news remain private. Now there are 8 people under quarantine, another nurse has just checked in... and yes some 80 people under observation. They have sacrificed her dog, her house has been disinfected and sealed, the beauty parlor where she had her legs waxed is closed and the 2 girls working there are under observation. The government has admited they have made many mistakes with protocol, there is quite a long list....

[Bob]

what about Ebola's immunity to oxygen rich environments ? would oxygen therapy be beneficial as a deterant or part tandem cure ?

N

I've been looking into this since you posted.. HYPERBARIC chambers quite possibly would be good for dealing with the issues in the hospital secondary infection, such as what I think they were saying was the primary cause of infection remaining in Mr. Duncan (the person with Ebola who died in Dallas this week).. So I think it is a VERY good suggestion to look into that.

This is why I feel oxygen under the right pressure/saturation or method to get it into the cell would be useful (I will describe with background, and what I consider "dot connecting" :

A quick understanding of how some of the anti-virals (http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/a/antiviral_drug.htm) work. If you think of a viral engine (http://www.nature.com/gt/journal/v12/n18/full/3302585a.html) like a crystal growing with some AI smarts built in, it can take substances as building blocks from healthy cells, and change those cells protein production mechanism (http://www.biocellmedical.com/Images/img-analisis-en.jpg)s into virus producing structures.. something that defeats the normal reproductive dna for the cell's instructions, and says, nope YOU ARE HIJACKED and will now follow new instructions (http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/how-viruses-hijack-endocytic-machinery-14364991).. AND it starts doing that switching off, protection, then switching off any mechanism that is not useful to the virus replication..

To sabotage the virus engine formation, folks have looked at stopping entry at the cell surface (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/256415.php), making that surface impenetrable to the viral nano-particles.. OR if the virus has entered, to have the virus get STUCK (http://www2.oakland.edu/biology/chaudhry/pics/virusreplication02web.pdf) on the surface of the cell.

The cell at that point basically is going to die, and there are mechanisms called apoptosis mechanisms (programmed sequences to turn on cell death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis), these monitor for aberration in the normal cell respiration (http://quizlet.com/3981705/ashenfalder-biology-cellular-respiration-chapter-7-flash-cards/) (getting food, water in and wastes out of the cell, etc.).. so the virus would be terminated by the apoptosis program which is in the gene codes..

Another method which is most effective is to use something done in making epoxy plastic of all things. A polymerization process (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22980331) is something the virus uses to sabotage the genes, in the cell, but the virus can be sabotaged also..

There is a set of chemicals called pyrimidines (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm00138a022).. I don't need to use this thread to get into the science of genetic splicing, or molecular modulation, or gene transfection as interesting as that may sound, I am wishing for this thread to be more educational about the nature of these infections, - so just to keep it simple to understand, as an analogy, the "agent" used to make an epoxy get hard, the "hardener" that could be chosen, starts a polymerization specifically ONLY of key parts of the virus molecule (bypassing the human dna), and stops it reproducing (visualise like how the hardener for epoxies works..) There are a set of those substances described very briefly in this thread and others, but if there is interest we could start a new thread specifically dealing with the molecular modification methods..

Oxygen is one of those substances which can induce that catalytic polymerization by peroxides (http://sottosgroup.beckman.illinois.edu/nrs096.pdf) - typically these have a metal component tied onto them for more activity - TIN is generally used with the peroxide.. (hint hint)

So yes, a proper type of oxygen would be useful, and if it were hyperbarically allowed to saturate, it could very well do what's needed.. It would have to saturate the tissues I would believe, here is a pix of a hyperbaric chamber.. Would a hospital do that? in my experience it is amazing that they admitted Mr Duncan at all.. They are just not adequately prepared as the nurses have said (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/03/us-health-ebola-nurses-idUSKCN0HS18C20141003), and obviously the issues in Spain with the doctors complaining that they couldn't get even a proper sized protection suit (http://www.kcci.com/health/spanish-ebola-patients-condition-worsens/29028676) to be able to work on her is saying a lot too about lack of preparedness. Why are they unprepared, have they been told there is "nothing to see here? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoveAlongNothingToSeeHere)" alluding that the virus is not worrisome? Haven't seen the official CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/training/quicklearns/biosafety/) and Canadian (http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php) health agency publications about how to deal with the virus, and treat it ONLY in Class 4 biosafety (http://www.txbiomed.org/about/extraordinary-resources/biosafety-level-4-laboratory) facilities??

That to me is what is worrisome, the lack of safety (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/infection-prevention-and-control-recommendations.html). I would rather see safety and err'ing on the side of caution (http://www.azcentral.com/story/azdc/2014/10/08/mccain-ebola-outbreak-suspend-flights-africa/16943945/), in our world than seeing what happened and continues to happen when lack of education when lack of information, when mis-information is spread around (http://en.ria.ru/world/20140922/193168220/Liberian-Official-Ebola-Misinformation-Hampering-Efforts-to.html) as is happening in Africa's western countries hosting the current outbreak. It is NOT burning itself out.

Cancer.org has a discussion of hyperbaric oxygen therapy: http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/manualhealingandphysicaltouch/hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy


http://www.southcoast.org/pix/woundcare-hbot-525.jpg


http://cc.amazingcounters.com/counter.php?i=3190880&c=9572953

[HolyDiver]

I think we are about to become exposed, to "something', probably not even Ebola, through chemtrails. These are sprayed daily and most people do not even believe this exists. So, adding a killer virus, like Ebola, would be a very easy and effective way to kill a large portion of the population.

[Matisse]

The nurse infected here in Spain, after testing positive twice with ebola, was transported from one hospital to another in an ambulence which continued in sevice for 15 hours longer after transporting her before being disinfected...

An alternate way to view the spain incident is:
A single case being leveraged for fear, what better way to "sell" a fluff piece, much like the case in Texas here in the US.

Strange protocol was followed, people read the stories and think "What were they thinking releasing him from the hospital while he is so sick" or with the Nurse there are similar issues with the story.

When things don't add up and cause a "wtf" moment, you NEED to examine them further and not just from the idea you are committed to, look at ALL angles objectively or you are doing your self and anyone you communicate with a disservice.

Too many things are adding up to a question mark right now.... to NOT follow the questions to a satisfying conclusion is a mistake.



This is my point, the suspicious lack of protocol, and the MSM keep hamerering how this is virus is so dificult to transmit and there is no problem, these things have raised my question mark...

[jackovesk]

Illuminati Ebola Virus:


Center For Disease Control Confirms
First Ebola Virus Case In USA, Can We Trust The CDC When They
Gave The Zombie Preparedness
Guide To The American People? No.


The CDC Zombie Pandemic Guide

http://illuminatigamerevealed.com/images/cdc-center-for-disease-control-zombie-pandemic-preparedness-guide.jpg

[CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL'S ZOMBIE PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS 101 GUIDE] (http://illuminatigamerevealed.com/aspnet_client/CDC%20-%20Center%20For%20Disease%20Control%20-%20Zombie%20Preparedness%20Guide%20101.pdf)

Illuminati Shriner Hospitals:


Trying To Make Devil Worshippers
Look Good Instead of Evil.
Do Not Be Fooled By Them.


http://illuminatigamerevealed.com/images/illuminati-ebola-virus-cdc-confirms-first-us-case-can-we-trust-the-cdc.jpg

PS - IMHO - Here is my ((EBOLA ((EPIDEMIC)) SUMMARY))



Have you seen what's on the ((Georgia Guidestones))
Planned a Long-Long time ago
Modified 'Ebola Strain' with 'Cure' for 'Those in the Know'
Big PHARMA set to make $Billions through sheer GREED
Set-Off to Coincide with all the other ((Mayhem))
Pre-Planned Depopulation of AFRICA
Ect, etc...



The NWO ((WANKERS)) are becoming all so ((OBVIOUS)) these days which will ultimately lead to the ((Undoing))...:wizard:

[SilentFeathers]

Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not, is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people if that is the route they take with it, but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable. No matter what happens they can now easily quarrenteen people, dissapear people, lock down locations (martial law) callapse the economy, pass mandatory vaccine laws, pass mandatory home inspections and confinscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps or some other more invasive way, chip people, need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species, and to depolulate at the same time......it has the same result whether its real or not.....

[Sidney]

Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not, is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people if that is the route they take with it, but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable. No matter what happens they can now easily quarrenteen people, dissapear people, lock down locations (martial law) callapse the economy, pass mandatory vaccine laws, pass mandatory home inspections and confinscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps or some other more invasive way, chip people, need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species, and to depolulate at the same time......it has the same result whether its real or not.....

I was kind of wondering if they will offer a vaccine, and if you don't take it, you either go to jail, get fined or have your obama care taken away, and of course if you get it taken away, and arent insured, you will be fined, so either way you are screwed if you don't take it. That would be a good motive for all the fear porn. I mean they have been trying to force vaccinate for years.

[KiwiElf]

First reported case in Cairns, Australia has now reportedly surfaced but testing of the nurse is (so far) negative (thank goodness!)

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/queensland-ebola-virus-scare-cairns-nurse-tests-negative/story-fnihsrf2-1227085676153?nk=59d856cab9e7fc2896a8fd34d3f6595f

Queensland Ebola virus scare: Cairns nurse tests negative

Rose Brennan, Peter Michael, Brittany Vonow
The Courier-Mail
October 10, 2014 10:02AM


QUEENSLAND Health have this morning confirmed the Cairns nurse suspected of contracting Ebola has returned a negative result for the virus.

Sue Ellen Kovack returned on Tuesday from Western Africa, where she had been helping patients at a Red Cross Ebola treatment centre in Sierra Leone.

After placing herself in isolation, fears rose yesterday when she notified authorities of a fever.

However, Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young announced this morning that initial tests had indicated Ms Kovack was clear of Ebola.

She added Ms Kovack would continue to be monitored for at least another 24 hours.

“This is a necessary precaution given the patients has been to West Africa and has had a fever within the incubation period of 21 days,” Dr Young said.

“For the sake of her health and to follow due diligence, we want to be sure she is clear of Ebola virus disease as well as any other disease.”

Dr Young said Ms Kovack’s fever was improving but she was still suffering symptoms including a sore throat and feeling generally unwell.

Queensland woman being tested for Ebola
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She also said the health department was looking at keeping returning medical professionals in capital cities to ensure they were close to medical assistance.

She said the reaction from the community showed the importance of ensuring information was accessible.

“It shows there is a lot of fear out there... That’s why it’s so important to get the information out there so people don’t unnecessarily fear these things.”

Dr Young again reiterated the wider community was not at risk of the deadly virus.

Earlier, The Courier-Mail a Cairns nurse who recently returned from Ebola-ravaged West Africa will this morning discover whether she has been infected with the deadly virus.

Sue Ellen Kovack, 57, had been working as a nurse for a month in an Ebola hospital in Sierra Leone on behalf of the Red Cross and has been in home isolation since her return to Cairns.

She returned to Australia at the weekend and arrived home to north Queensland on Tuesday.
Spain Ebola victim's dog destroyed
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HITTING HOME: Nurse in Ebola scare

FALSE ALARM: Gold Coast alert

SAFE ZONE: Our Ebola containment room

Ms Kovack presented to the Cairns Hospital’s emergency department with a low-grade fever at 1pm yesterday and was immediately transferred to an isolation room where monitoring by an infectious disease specialist began.

If Ms Kovack’s test results are positive for Ebola it will be the first case of the disease in Australia.

While fever was the first symptom of Ebola, chief health officer Dr Jeannette Young moved to quell any fears that anyone was at risk, even if Ms Kovack did have the disease.

“There is no need for any community concern at all because this particular individual has only recently got any sort of symptom and she’s been in her own home, isolated there, so there is absolutely no risk for the general community in Cairns,” she said.

Ms Kovack did not have any symptoms when she first arrived home in Australia.

Aside from a temperature of 37.6C when she arrived at the hospital, Dr Young said the nurse was feeling well. The usual temperature for an adult is 37C.

A sample of her blood was flown to Brisbane yesterday afternoon to a specialist waiting to conduct the tests which were expected to take four hours. The results were not expected to be known until early this morning.

NEED TO KNOW: Your guide to Ebola

DEATH: Inside Patient Zero’s apartment

While Ms Kovack had been living in isolation with a flatmate and had travelled with other people on the planes from Africa, Dr Young said these people were not at risk.

“Ebola virus is very difficult to transmit, it’s not like the flu or measles, it’s not transmitted through the air. You need to be exposed to secretions. So that is vomit, diarrhoea, blood … she doesn’t have any symptoms producing those secretions so therefore her risk of infecting someone else is very, very low.”

Dr Young said the nurse followed the protocol for medical staff treating Ebola sufferers in Africa by isolating herself for 21 days after she arrived home and taking her temperature twice a day.

“She’s done everything appropriately,” Dr Young said.

Ms Kovack is a remote health nurse who travels to isolated communities in the Northern Territory, Western Australia, Cape York and Cocos Island.

She has previously worked for the Red Cross in 2000 in South Sudan and in Sierra Leone in 2002.

Dr Young said that if Ms Kovack was confirmed to be suffering from Ebola, Queensland Health would endeavour to provide her with the best treatment.

“We will work through what is best for her, this is all then about what is the best treatment that we could give her,” she said.

Dr Young said that given where Ms Kovack had been working there was obviously potential for her to test positive. “I am treating it as if it was (Ebola) because I don’t know how likely it is … so there is the potential there so that’s why we’re treating this so seriously.

“I’m absolutely confident with all of the processes that we have in place, and that Cairns Hospital has in place, that there is no risk to anyone in that community or any staff in that hospital.”

Ms Kovack’s blood sample will be tested at Forensic and Scientific Services at Coopers Plains in Brisbane’s south.

Dr Young praised Ms Kovack for her bravery in going to West Africa.

“I think she’s an amazing lady to go to Africa and provide that service.”

From Sierra Leone on September 26, Ms Kovack wrote on Facebook that she’d reached a “pivotal moment” in her career:

On September 30, she posted pictures of herself in the personal protective equipment that aid workers must wear.

Before she left for Africa, Ms Kovack revealed she was anxious about the trip.

“I just think everything I’ve done in my career so far has led me to this,’’ she said.

“I’m a humanist at heart and it’s a big world out there with a lot of issues.

“People put up their hands because they have an interest in their fellow man, that’s why I’m going.”

This latest scare comes after a man was tested for Ebola at the Gold Coast Hospital when he claimed to be ill after returning from Africa.

Brisbane doctor Jenny Stedmon remains in home isolation in south Brisbane after her stint treating Ebola patients with the Red Cross.

Queensland Health has specialist isolation rooms in major hospitals.

The latest report from the World Health Organisation shows almost 4000 people have died in the current outbreak in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone – there have also been cases in Nigeria.

The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the US, Thomas Eric Duncan, has died.

The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the US, Thomas Eric Duncan, has died.

Fear spreads as fast as virus

FEAR has gripped the US following the death of the first person in the country to be diagnosed with Ebola virus – a situation Australian experts want to avoid here.

Australians have an extremely low risk of contracting the virus. It is neither highly contagious, nor is it an airborne disease.

“Ebola is not easily transmissible,’’ said Dr Enzo Binotto, director of infectious diseases at Cairns Hospital.

“We’ve got good infection controls. We got strict measures. Testing has been done.’’

Dr Binotto, a world-renowned specialist, said heightened anxiety about Ebola was an understandable and normal reaction.

Reports of victims bleeding from the eyes and organs liquefying in the deadly outbreak added to the fear and hysteria.

“Ebola is an unknown,’’ Dr Binotto said.

“But we don’t expect the problems we’re seeing in Africa in a developed nation like Australia where we can test people and quickly contain it.’’

Infectious diseases specialist Andrew Redmond in a high containment room at the Royal Bri

Infectious diseases specialist Andrew Redmond in a high containment room at the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital.

Health experts warn that Ebola, a disease that has a relatively low transmission rate, has spread dramatically in West Africa because it is in a region where people are malnourished, with poor shelter and no access to adequate healthcare.

Thomas Eric Duncan, 42, died yesterday in the Texas hospital where he had been admitted last week after exhibiting symptoms of the virus.

Duncan (pictured) had travelled from Liberia but lied on immigration forms about whether he had been in contact with anyone in Africa suffering the disease.

The Washington Post has reported that people around the US have been reporting to doctors worried about their risk.

Authorities are now engaged in a huge campaign to explain to Americans the way the virus works and that they are highly unlikely to have or contract the disease at home.

“This is both a biological plague and a psychological one, and fear can spread even faster than the virus,” The Post noted on its front page.

Ebola fears as person tested

A member of Doctors Without Borders at an Ebola isolation ward in Guinea, West Africa.

Australian doctors said fear of Ebola eclipsed other health crises around the world, including tuberculosis and AIDS, while diarrhoea, a preventable and treatable condition, still kills 1.5 million children each year.

“It is not a time for panic or overreaction,’’ said Australian Medical Association president Associate Professor Brian Owler.

“Both the Australian Chief Medical Officer and the Queensland Chief Health Officer have given assurances that all the correct procedures have been undertaken to contain any infection or contamination, if indeed it is Ebola.”

Prof Owler said the nurse and other aid workers should be praised for their efforts to help Ebola victims.

“They have selflessly gone to Africa to help thousands of poor suffering people who are trapped in one of the greatest humanitarian crises facing the world,’’ he said.

[Bob]

IS it possible to predict YEARS in advance?

(multiple Sources (1 (http://www.replikins.com/press_37.html)) (2 (http://www.littlegatepublishing.com/2014/10/was-the-2014-ebola-outbreak-predicted-but-evidence-ignored-and-could-the-current-outbreak-burn-itself-out/))

Replikins is not like data mining internet, quite different..

It data mines proteins, and gene changes.

"LONDON, July 16, 2010 -- BioRadar UK Ltd. predicted one year ago the current severe Foot and Mouth Disease (FMD) outbreaks after recording an increase of the Replikin Count of the FMD Virus (FMDV) to its highest level in 52 years."

"Replikins Global Surveillance System™ analysis of the Ebola virus show the highest ever peaks in Ebola Gene Replikin Counts in the years 2012 and 2013. Such genomic increases predicted the current worst ever Ebola outbreak."

Also, if there is a sharp drop, it could signal the END of an outbreak..

Pretty amazing..

So they knew it was coming.. and had the analysis tools.

"Dr. Samuel Bogoch, chairman of BioRadar UK Ltd., reported to the Amsterdam conference that the new technology gives accurate advance notice of virus outbreaks."

The data on the Ebola outbreak predictions is to be released to the general public October 14th, 2014


Quarantine and travel restrictions should be strengthened against those Ebola viruses that have already entered human hosts, to end the present Ebola outbreak sooner.

The "analysis system" (the machine(?) ) says QUARANTINE and enact travel restrictions to force a burn out.. Don't do it and it will continue to spread. (according to the "machine")..

Another solution NOT explored by "the machine" is that people could be given LOW COST antivirals and NOT LET THE PEOPLE DIE..

TO BURN OUT THE VIRUS MEANS TO LET THE PEOPLE DIE.. that is what the "machine" does not have, compassion.. help the people with the low cost anti-virals..

[Bob]

Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not,

is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people
if that is the route they take with it,

but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......

no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable.

No matter what happens they can now easily quarantine people,
disappear people,
lock down locations (martial law)
collapse the economy,
pass mandatory vaccine laws,
pass mandatory home inspections
and confiscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps
or some other more invasive way,
chip people,

need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species,

and to depolulate at the same time......

it has the same result whether its real or not.....

Bingo !

and it is cruel and sadistic - what a psychotic mind would enjoy no doubt..

(I took the liberty of adding some white space to your comment if that is OK with you)

[Bob]

Bob, there are two more cases that I have no sources for but that need attention. One is to do with refugees from lower Africa and the other with pilgrimage in SA now reaching its end.

[..]
OP Solutions Link 3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=871304&viewfull=1#post871304) reminded me of http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20571172. Related?

Hi Violet -

I did some looking into the Fenugreek seed concentrate and it does have anti-viral activity, verified apparently by NIH associated scientists (National Institutes of Health).. It's interesting that sometimes folks seem to think that these agencies' scientists don't test out normally known about natural medicines, but apparently they do.. Here is what they say about this herbal. It could be useful with a variety of needs.

"Abstract
There is evidence that Trigonella foenum-graecum L. (fenugreek), a traditional Chinese herb, and its components are beneficial in the prevention and treatment of diabetes and central nervous system disease.

The pharmacological activities of trigonelline, a major alkaloid component of fenugreek, have been more thoroughly evaluated than fenugreek's other components, especially with regard to diabetes and central nervous system disease.

Trigonelline (the compound in Fenugreek) has:

hypoglycemic,
hypolipidemic,
neuroprotective,
antimigraine,
sedative,
memory-improving,
antibacterial,
antiviral, and
anti-tumor activities, and
it has been shown to reduce diabetic auditory neuropathy and platelet aggregation.


It acts by affecting:

β cell regeneration,
insulin secretion,
activities of enzymes related to glucose metabolism,
reactive oxygen species,
axonal extension, and
neuron excitability.


However, further study of trigonelline's pharmacological activities and exact mechanism is warranted.

Along with application of this knowledge to its clinical usage.

This review aims to give readers a survey of the pharmacological effects of trigonelline, especially in diabetes, diabetic complications and central nervous system disease.

In addition, because of its pharmacological value and low toxicity, the reported adverse effects of trigonelline in experimental animal models and humans are briefly reviewed, and the pharmacokinetics of trigonelline are also discussed."

Amazing that groups that one would assume wouldn't be interested look at traditional herbals and try to find out what IS IT inside the herbal that is doing something, then to figure out how..

NIH abstract link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22680628

[Bob]

Death of a Baby - with pictures

Since some keep seeming to say it's not real, here is an article that one can read and see pictures.

My heart feels very very sad.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/10/world/africa/heart-rending-test-in-ebola-zone-a-baby.html#

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/10/09/world/africa/20141010-BABY-slide-MFC3/20141010-BABY-slide-MFC3-jumbo.jpg

[Atlas]

These images won't convince the skeptics. Notice that of 5 civilians, only 1 is wearing a mask.: shocked:

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/10/09/world/africa/20141010-BABY-slide-DQZE/20141010-BABY-slide-DQZE-superJumbo.jpg

[Bob]

That is part of the problem, they think they are safe, lack of information. I wonder what it would take gory pictures of dying people, violating decency or respect for the dead, sick or dying to what, amuse the skeptic ? Should they volunteer for duty at a Clinic? Plenty of opportunity to do that ..examples - (1 (http://www.emergencyusa.org/En/002/014/022/Pediatric+Center.html)), (2 (https://internationalmedicalcorps.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=496)), (3 (http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/work-us/work-office/office-volunteers)). I've been "over there" in the crowded overwhelmed cities and outskirts. It's surreal trying to wrap one's head around it. I only came back with MERS_nCOV, which gave me perpetual drowning issues is what it felt like, 24/7 unable to breath and low oxygen levels of 50-60, no energy, and suppressed immune system, - having been sick for a year 2011-2012, and had my mom die within 10 days exposure from AEROSOL transfer from that virus laden cough and sneeze 15 feet away from her.. and hospitals also just "laughed" back in the States when I said i just came back from an area with viral outbreak of this disease and was exposed - nothing to see here.. belligerence really was their response - I guess it's real to me what an aerosol virus transmission can do.


These images won't convince the skeptics.
Notice that of 5 civilians, only 1 is wearing a mask. [..]

[Roisin]

Here's another mainstream news article published yesterday where a couple of long time Ebola scientists from a major university are criticizing what the gov't has been saying about that virus and how the public is being misinformed on some crucial facts about it.
Seattle scientist: Government 'underestimated' Ebola
I posted that story in the Hot Zone thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75776-THE-HOT-ZONE-A-chilling-1995-book-about-Ebola&p=887006&viewfull=1#post887006

[SilentFeathers]

Another reason that I think this is a manufactured crisis, regardless of how real it is or not, is that it is a perfect weapon to not only kill large amounts of people if that is the route they take with it, but it is also a perfect weapon to activate all the draconian legislation that has been passed since 911 etc., such as the NDAA, Farm Bill, ObamaCare, just to name a few.......no one can really be blamed for this let alone be held accountable. No matter what happens they can now easily quarrenteen people, dissapear people, lock down locations (martial law) callapse the economy, pass mandatory vaccine laws, pass mandatory home inspections and confinscate guns, monitor peoples vitals through phone apps or some other more invasive way, chip people, need I go on?????????

This is a perfect weapon for those who want to further the enslavement of the species, and to depolulate at the same time......it has the same result whether its real or not.....

I was kind of wondering if they will offer a vaccine, and if you don't take it, you either go to jail, get fined or have your obama care taken away, and of course if you get it taken away, and arent insured, you will be fined, so either way you are screwed if you don't take it. That would be a good motive for all the fear porn. I mean they have been trying to force vaccinate for years.

I don't think they'll take Obamacare away, but make it so you have to have it....it's already on the law books, people ain't just signing up for it. If they can't convince people to sign up they will force people now. This whole ordeal is heading towards a mandatory vaccine among other things. They almost don't need massive cases of ebola here, the fear factor alone will cause many to freely comply. (just wait till ISIS appears here!).

[Hervé]

Briton dies of suspected Ebola in Macedonia, his hotel sealed off (http://rt.com/news/194640-briton-ebola-macedonia-dead/)

Published time: October 09, 2014 18:42
Edited time: October 10, 2014 02:53
Get short URL (http://rt.com/news/194640-briton-ebola-macedonia-dead/)


http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/2f/85/00/00/briton-ebola-macedonia-dead.si.jpg
Reuters / Mariana Bazo


A Briton with symptoms of Ebola has died in Macedonia, local authorities said. The hotel in Skopje where he was staying has been sealed off, while another Briton and hotel staff are being kept inside to prevent possible spreading of infection.

According to Macedonian authorities the man came to Skopje from London on October 2 and was taken to hospital on Thursday where he died several hours later.

The man reportedly suffered from fever, vomiting and internal bleeding. His condition deteriorated rapidly, Dr. Jovanka Kostovska of the ministry's commission for infectious diseases said.

"We could not determine whether a citizen of England suffered from the disease. It is possible to question haemorrhagic fever,” Kostovska told MRT news, as she expects the results from the autopsy in two days’ time.

“The patient had symptoms of mild fever, 37.4 C, which does not correspond to Ebola, taking into account that the characteristic temperature for people with Ebola is above 38.5 C. However, rapid and severe clinical picture, vomiting, internal bleeding, and sudden and rapid death, symptoms of Ebola, raised suspicions,” Kostovska said.

The tests have been carried out to see if he had Ebola and have been sent to Germany's Frankfurt to confirm the disease.

A Macedonian government spokesman told the BBC that a companion of the late Briton told the local authorities that they had traveled straight from the UK and had not visited countries affected by Ebola

The ambulance crew and the hotel staff were isolated to prevent spreading of infection, and the hotel building was also sealed off.

A spokesman from the Macedonian Foreign Ministry said: "I can confirm that a British person has died and he is in the state hospital in Skopje,” The independent reports.

If the diagnosis is confirmed it will be the first case of a UK citizen dying of Ebola.

“We are aware of reports and we are looking into them urgently,” a Foreign Office spokesperson said.

Until recently, all Ebola victims either lived or visited Africa. Spanish nurse Teresa Romero was the first person in Europe to contract Ebola outside Africa.

READ MORE: Underfunding behind Spanish hospital failure to isolate Ebola vicitim (http://rt.com/news/194068-spanish-healthcare-criticism-ebola/)

See also this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75776-THE-HOT-ZONE-A-chilling-1995-book-about-Ebola&p=886773&viewfull=1#post886773) (<---)

[avid]

“The patient had symptoms of mild fever, 37.4 C, which does not correspond to Ebola, taking into account that the characteristic temperature for people with Ebola is above 38.5 C. However, rapid and severe clinical picture, vomiting, internal bleeding, and sudden and rapid death, symptoms of Ebola, raised suspicions,” Kostovska said.

The young lady who died in photographic detail here (http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12574), did not have a high fever either, yet had ebola.

Although it is widely reported that one of the first signs of Ebola is a fever, cases, including those that are fatal, present without fever.


An MSF doctor takes her temperature. At 36.6C she has no fever. Although the Ebola virus often causes a fever, the fact that she does not have one is not a decisive factor in determining whether or not a patient is infected.

[Bob]

Good articles Avid, Roisin Amzer Zo - thank you -

Emphasis on the monitoring of temperature - no guarantees that in all people (there is mention), people could have (if exposed) but yet developed or maintained "a lower grade temperature", that would seem normal. Certain factors can suppress fevers in other words.

What if the diet consists of ingesting fever reducing nutrients (http://www.possumsal.com/Fevers.html)? Or something like an underlying infection of Hepatitis C virus can do it, or thyroid issues, or sepsis..

HOW can CDC say for sure, EVERYONE with "the fever" temperature threshold number "screeners" are told to look for isn't being suppressed by a person with a hemorrhagic fever PLUS Hepatitis C concurrently?

This is why "non-party line" doctors who are honest, willing to explain what are the issues, are saying basically, it is asinine, the generating of misinformation to appease an uninformed public who are relying on "party line" dogma to understand the nature of pathological disease issues which can very likely be present in travelers living in subsistence conditions in regions endemic with those infectious agents (Hep C, sepsis from untreated bacterial infections from wounds, unsanitary childbirth..). Informed people can deal with it, IMHO and then develop a positive outcome, and create a situation of moving past challenges. Those spreading the "party line" cripple people, for whatever purpose suits their demeanor apparently (or what their handlers have told them).

As Dr. Michael Katze, a University of Washington scientist willing to be truthful, is pointing out, he and his team are working on investigation and treatment, albeit with mice; emphasising there are insufficient human studies to absolutely predict with certainty, that a screening temperature or bloodshot eyes and honesty in filling out an piece of paper question form is going to be adequate.

He also points out there is no way to explain with 100% certainty that "bodily contact, bodily fluid contact" is the only way it can spread to others.

(numerous sources (1 (http://viromics.washington.edu/index.html)), (2 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75776-THE-HOT-ZONE-A-chilling-1995-book-about-Ebola&p=887006&viewfull=1#post887006)), (3 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/mesh?term=Pathological%20Conditions,%20Signs%20and%20Symptoms%5Bmh%5D)), (4 (http://viromics.washington.edu/publications.html)), (5 (http://www.king5.com/story/news/health/2014/10/09/seattle-scientist-says-us-government-underestimated-ebola/16956505/)), (6 (http://acidcow.com/pics/20140901/ebola_beats_finda_08.jpg)), (7 (http://viromics.washington.edu/media.html)), (8 (http://acidcow.com/pics/20140901/ebola_beats_finda_02.jpg))

https://www.msf.org.za/msf-publications/guinea-how-ebola-beats-finda - "She reported extreme weakness, vomiting, and dysentery. These symptoms, along with fever and nosebleeds, are typical of those caused by the Ebola virus. An MSF doctor takes her temperature. At 36.6C she has no fever. Although the Ebola virus often causes a fever, the fact that she does not have one is not a decisive factor in determining whether or not a patient is infected."

http://acidcow.com/pics/20140901/ebola_beats_finda_02.jpg

The nurse at the outset was NOT using BSL-3 or BSL-4 safety precautions, and at that point in the "evaluation step" has most likely, exposed herself. Even without the "fever" being observed. 2 days later, indicating massive infection has already progressed inside Finda Marie Kamano, who at the time, was of age 33 then died, of Ebola. (The nurse in Spain for instance was suspected of touching her face while removing her gloves..)

https://www.msf.org.za/sites/msf.org.za/files/msfpubs_docs/msb8379_guinea.jpg

meanwhile, PRAGUE was briefly concerned that they may have had a case - saying only in about 20 hours they determined it wasn't ebola (that was a FAST test).


AND

Liberia has said, JOURNALISTS GO HOME, we don't want you showing what is happening here!

A news blackout is their solution, suppress information. (Source (http://news.yahoo.com/liberia-bans-journalists-ebola-centres-005429176.html))
"The media rights campaign group warned that panicked governments fighting the epidemic were "quarantining" reporters to prevent them covering the crisis."
"Party Line Suppression", there's some of the smoking guns.. with open press what is happening gets coverage, without, the spin meisters have a field day.

[avid]

So.... temperature checks at airports useless!

[Bob]

So.... temperature checks at airports useless!

Well.. in one word, yes.

It's not just one taking ibuprofen fever reducer, it could be low due to diet, or different infections present as well.. I really like what Phillipbbg suggested "connecting the dots", absolutely brilliant!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=886871&viewfull=1#post886871 is the forum link a page back..

instead of thermometers that can be defeated or masked with another infection, or thyroid condition, a medical dog trained to smell the "signs" absolutely would not be able to be defeated, and if even if the person doesn't know by themselves they may have an exposure, the medical dog could help and alert them, something is up. Such is working very well being able to notice when biological changes are happening with a cancer for instance, the telltale signs are chemically present. It' something than could be developed faster than a molecular sniffer chip.

UPDATE: - I found this on ZeroHedge, talking about the optical screening thermometer being used during screenings..


In addition, even the Centers for Disease Control admits that thermal scanners often fail. As the Guardian reports:

Checking body temperature isn’t a sure-fire way to find individuals infected with Ebola. People can carry the virus for up to three weeks before showing symptoms, and are not contagious during that period. The patient in the US case, Thomas Eric Duncan, was reportedly asymptomatic when he travelled from Liberia to Dallas.

In a guidance paper produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for airport and public health officials, the agency lists what it sees as problems with the devices, including cost, lack of precision, need for frequent calibration and maintenance and training requirements. Testing efficacy to judge the scanners write large is difficult because of the many and changing models available.

While such scanners can be good at ruling out people without fevers, the CDC said, they have a wide and varying range of efficacy at finding people with fevers depending on environmental conditions and even the age of the person being scanned. The FDA approved the devices for use only with more conventional methods of taking someone’s temperature, such as a mercury thermometer or color-changing strips.

“Policy makers may feel some pressure to use [non-contact infrared thermometers],” said French researchers at the Institut de Veille Sanitaire. “But the decision making process should not ignore the poor scientific evidence on NCIT’s efficacy to delay the introduction of a novel influenza strain.”

“The psychological reassuring effect on the public can influence the decision to implement such screening, as was the case in Singapore and Canada,” said the same study from Institut de Veille Sanitaire. “But these countries also recognised that the public may lose confidence in this measure if an undetected case had entered the country and generated secondary cases.”

The temperature can be skewed by taking a fever reducer in the simplest form. That's the bottom line, if that happens, do they know if the person has an infection or not?

[avid]

Let's get the dogs out asap!!! Great idea.....

[Bob]

Interesting news service AP reports they received Thomas Duncan's medical records, and when Mr. Duncan was in the hospital the first time, when he was sent home, he had at least 103 degrees way over the warning flags plus a dialog saying he had just come back from west Africa.. Hospital refuses to comment.. -- more to come as this develops.. (CBS reporting)

and the "official" number of deaths from the current Ebola outbreak has risen to 4,033, ... The latest count brings the total number of confirmed, probable, and suspected cases of Ebola to 8,399.

It is being emphasised over and over, those "official" numbers are probably in actuality 2.5 times under-reported because of people's fear of being ostracized/shunned (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning) or put in some clinic afraid of dying in the clinic, hoping that they will "naturally" get over their hemorrhagic fever.

[Sidney]

Just to keep things in perspective, here are some seasonal flu stats.

source link http://pediatrics.about.com/od/kidsandtheflu/a/deaths-from-flu.htm

Updated October 08, 2014.

Written or reviewed by a board-certified physician. See About.com's Medical Review Board.

Deaths in Flu Pandemics

Although a lot of people die in a typical flu season, the death rate from the flu can go up greatly during a flu pandemic or worldwide outbreak of the flu.

The increased deaths aren't necessarily because the strain of flu virus is stronger, but rather because so many more people get sick during a pandemic, such as:

1889 Russian Flu Pandemic - about 1 million flu deaths
1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic - over 40 to 50 million flu deaths, including about 675,000 in the United States. The flu infected over half of the world's population by the end of the pandemic.
1957 Asian Flu Pandemic - over 1 million flu deaths, including about 69,800 in the United States
1968 Hong Kong Flu Pandemic - about 1 to 3 million flu deaths
2009 H1N1 Flu Pandemic - between 8,870 and 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide
The 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic was the first pandemic for which a large supply of flu vaccine was available, although it came as cases were already peaking in the United States. A limited supply of flu vaccine was also available during the 1968 pandemic, but again, by the time it was available, cases had already peaked.

Deaths from Flu

Even in a non-pandemic year, a lot of people die from the flu, usually because of secondary complications, such as pneumonia or complications of chronic medical problems.

Most people are aware of the 36,000 yearly flu deaths estimate that many experts use. This was an average number of flu deaths that experts found during the 1990s.

An estimate that uses a much longer time frame, including more recent flu seasons, from 1976 to 2007, has found an average of 23,607 deaths.

There is a lot of variability from year to year, though, with a low of 3,349 deaths during the 1986-87 flu season to a high of 48,614 in 2003-04, which was considered a severe flu season.

Pediatric Flu Deaths

As much as people like to think the flu is a mild disease, you can't get away from the fact that a lot of kids die from the flu each year.

Unlike flu deaths in adults, which are just estimates, we actually know exactly how many kids die from the flu each year as it has been a nationally notifiable condition since 2004:

2003-04 flu season - 152 pediatric flu deaths
2004-05 flu season - 39 pediatric flu deaths
2005-06 flu season - 41 pediatric flu deaths
2006-07 flu season - 68 pediatric flu deaths
2007-08 flu season - 88 pediatric flu deaths
2008-09 flu season - 133 pediatric flu deaths
2009-10 flu season - 282 pediatric flu deaths
(swine flu pandemic)
2010-11 flu season - 123 pediatric flu deaths
2011-12 flu season - 34 pediatric flu deaths
2012-13 flu season - 171 pediatric flu deaths
2013-14 flu season - 108 pediatric flu deaths
2014-15 flu season -
And these aren't all kids with risk factors, like having asthma, diabetes, or other chronic medical condition. Reports have shown that about half of the children who die from the flu each year have no known high-risk factors for flu complications.

Preventing Flu Deaths

Of course, the best way to prevent flu deaths is to avoid getting sick with the flu in the first place.

You can try to avoid the flu by staying away from people who are sick and washing your hands frequently, but since the most simple, best protection from the flu is a yearly flu vaccine, that is likely your best way to prevent flu deaths.

During the 2010-11 flu season, 72% of children who died from the flu were not vaccinated.

Sources:

CDC. FluView. 2013-2014 Influenza Season Week 22 ending May 31, 2014

CDC. Estimates of Deaths Associated with Seasonal Influenza --- United States, 1976--2007. MMWR. August 27, 2010 / 59(33);1057-1062.

CDC. Influenza-Associated Pediatric Deaths --- United States, September 2010--August 2011. MMWR. September 16, 2011 / 60(36);1233-1238.

Simonsen, Lone. Global Mortality Estimates for the 2009 Influenza Pandemic from the GLaMOR Project: A Modeling Study. PLOS Medicine.Published: Nov 26, 2013.

U.S. Department of Health & Human Services. History of Flu Pandemics. http://www.flu.gov/individualfamily/about/pandemic/history.html Accessed Dec 2011.

However, WHO and CDC has a history of scewing the stats to fullfill their vaccine agendas, and here is another source that give more information on the perspective.
And I understand that Ebola is not the flu, but we need to keep in mind, historically what has been pushed upon the public, that fall way behind on actual facts, when it comes to accuracy within the numbers.
http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/October-2012/Influenza-Deaths--The-Hype-vs--The-Evidence.aspx

[Bob]

Live with the "virus" (the virus is your friend embrace it...hmmmm) or stop the virus? Doesn't matter what virus - if it were "flu", or mumps, rubella, yellow fever or hepatitis.. hmm

Just seems to me, if battle field Earth is the issue, human survival, or survival of the flora and lower fauna (an either or) at the expense of others living on and in the planet, or, a balance achieved by, wait for it, here it comes... "sustainability" (eeeeeee said the nuclear word there..) and husbandry/stewardship... it, "the issue" requires understanding of what is happening IN-THE-MOMENT. Can't look ? Why is that?

And that is achieved by identification of what is happening, how is it happening, where is it happening, why is it happening - (obtain all characteristics), then sort it, connect the dots. And then create the flow that a solution can become obvious, and allow that to manifest.. It doesn't matter really if that is economics, or nature sciences, or working with one's child.. The moment suppression or deviation comes in to divert attention from the needed steps, observation, and identification, spin can happen, and nothing progresses..

(This friendly reminder was brought to you by "EBOLA-LITE", the new fresh breathmint, look for it on your shelves, or under your mud-hut's floorboards provided by the traveling people in the white coats with big goggled eyes..) that's satire in-case it went past someone.. I have at least started to hear ON MSM, NO JOKING about this stuff.. so a positive change is happening.

OPEN NEWS, not suppression, not spin.

[TargeT]

OPEN NEWS, not suppression, not spin.

Not exaggeration?

So far it sounds like a few things are said to have happened:

The Haemorrhagic Fever no longer exhibits Fever symptoms

Ebola can be spread by the uninfected or newly infected (not how it previously has always been spread)

Ebola now can be contracted from surface contact (not how it previously acted)

Ebola is now considered Airborne (not how it previously was considered)

What makes you think that "medical dogs" will do anything to fight this morphing virus that seems to change to defeat every established protocol?

Each of these new fantastic changes to the virus makes me question the validity of this entire thing more... and sounds like GROSS exaggeration.

Next we are going to hear that it raises the dead.....

Oh wait, it's already happening:
HOzOlZVK1cM

[Bob]

Vaccine Trials are happening in MALI

(Source (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/ebola-vaccine-mali-trialled-health-workers))

Selected Health workers in Mali have been given an experimental vaccine against Ebola that has been designed to "boost the immunity" of the body.


“This research will give us crucial information about whether the vaccine is safe, well-tolerated and capable of stimulating adequate immune responses in the highest priority target population – healthcare workers in west Africa,” said Prof Myron Levine, director of the centre for vaccine development at the University of Maryland, which is running the trial in conjunction with the Malian ministry of health.

Oxford and Glaxo-Smith-Kline have been co testing this vaccine.

The vaccine was designed by National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Bethesda, Maryland. GSK is the manufacturer in UK.


http://www.ral.ucar.edu/projects/westafrica/images/WestAfricaMap_lg.jpg

[Bob]

Some Staff at Madrid's hospital have said enough, and have quit coming into work

(Source (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/madrid-hospital-staff-quit-ebola))

"Carlos III hospital treating virus-hit nurse Teresa Romero Ramos suffers staff shortage amid concerns over training and safety"

Reason?

A lack of training and safety standards

"The prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, did not comment on allegations of substandard practices, but said a special commission had been set up to discuss measures to stop the disease spreading."


“There are questions as to whether the protective suits are adequate, if the protocols are adequate. A health professional could accuse the administration of a public health offence if they are forced to work in conditions that are not adequate.”

[Bob]

Alex Newman, a foreign correspondent for The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/), is normally based in Europe has written an article for the New American, saying here is how to stop Ebola from spreading..

The Governments on both sides of the Atlantic ocean are urging calm, stay calm, nothing to see here really, just something that can be controlled with a vaccine, or some military action..

But a company that needs the rubber from rubber trees on its plantation took matters into its own hands.

They had no clue about Ebola, but went to the internet for locating accurate information, sorting through the spin as best as they could using common sense.

What they came up with was EDUCATION was needed first, educate all of their workers, (and themselves), so that they knew what to do.. What to do is how to treat someone infected, how to prevent infection, how to carefully and safely bury a person who has died, and how to decontaminate where they were living. A B C D E.. IDENTIFY, EDUCATE, TREAT, ISOLATE and repeat.


First they built isolation clinics using shipping containers and plastic wrap. Company trucks were turned into makeshift ambulances.

Protective suits used to clean up chemical spills became medical gear to protect those who may be exposed to an infected patient.

Meanwhile, company janitors were trained in how to properly bury the bodies of Ebola victims, company police were deployed to enforce a “no visitors” rule, and teachers at the company’s schools visited each home to teach farm workers and their families about the disease — something especially crucial as rumors about Ebola continue to spread like wildfire among the population.

Unlike the Liberian government’s measures — coordinated with the controversial World Health Organization — Firestone’s plan worked.

The head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) team in Liberia, Dr. Brendan Flannery, praised Firestone’s efforts to combat Ebola as “resourceful, innovative and effective,” NPR reported. When asked what was needed to turn the tide, Flannery responded: “More Firestones.”

Alex wraps it up commenting on what he has heard -

"Especially troubling to many doctors and experts is the fact that U.S. borders essentially remain wide open even as Washington, D.C., purports to possess wild powers on everything from quarantining healthy people with no symptoms to locking down entire cities and enforcing coercive “treatment” such as forced vaccination. A vaccine for Ebola is reportedly being developed. "

This came out Friday, 10 October 2014.

The summary is

EDUCATE, (learn everything about infectious disease detection, control)
then go house to house, and
EDUCATE (and find out infected or not, exposed or not)
Identify what is present (if any at each household)
Transport if needed, safely and treat, disinfect where the household had the illness
Those who die, bury safely, do not re-infect
PREVENT entry to the community from outsiders (isolate importing more potential infections)


Also: http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberian-rubber-farm-becomes-sanctuary-against-ebola-1412629331


http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-EW439_FIREST_G_20141006152508.jpg

Firestone employs 8500 people in Liberia - for stopping importing Ebola onto the plantation, Firestone’s company police, normally tasked with chasing rubber thieves, were given orders to enforce a “No Visitors” policy.


http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-EW442_FIREST_G_20141006152601.jpg

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-EW442_FIREST_G_20141006152601.jpg

Clusters of people are located at the work sites listed here - outbreaks tend to happen in clusters


http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/liberia_econ_1973.jpg

[Matisse]

Some Staff at Madrid's hospital have said enough, and have quit coming into work

(Source (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/madrid-hospital-staff-quit-ebola))

"Carlos III hospital treating virus-hit nurse Teresa Romero Ramos suffers staff shortage amid concerns over training and safety"

Reason?

A lack of training and safety standards

"The prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, did not comment on allegations of substandard practices, but said a special commission had been set up to discuss measures to stop the disease spreading."


“There are questions as to whether the protective suits are adequate, if the protocols are adequate. A health professional could accuse the administration of a public health offence if they are forced to work in conditions that are not adequate.”


Yes, this is the situation. Teresa Romero the infected nurse, and the other 7 or 8 persons under observation are on the fifth and sixth floors and it seems they are finding difficluty just to find people willing to take them up food on those floors... One person at the hospital said if anyone would come as a nurse looking for work they would hire them immediately...It makes me wonder, there is one patient and 7 under observation in the capital, what would happen if there were one thousand infected?

That being said, their grievances are real, the protocols have been ridiculous, they don't even have suits that fit. The hospitals and health care in general here have been seriously underfunded for the past decade. I rarely visit the doctor or the hospital, but on the few occasions that i,ve been to my family doctor or the emergency ward I could feel the frustation in the air. The majority really want to help and do their job, but they are not giving them the funding to be able to.

Still, this makes me want to go to Madrid and at least help bringing up food to them...

[Jean-Luc]

from ZeroHedge, Oct 10


Public Health Emergency Declared In Connecticut Over Ebola: Civil Rights Suspended Indefinitely
We warned a week ago of the various possibilities surrounding an Ebola outbreak in America, and today we get some degree of confirmation of a medical-based martial-law coming to the US. Governor Dan Malloy has declared a Public Health Emergency in Connecticut, authorizing the "isolation of any individual reasonably believed to have been exposed to the Ebola virus." Simply put, as we noted previously, the State of Public Health Emergency allows bureaucrats to detain and force-vaccinate people without due process - despite not one single case being found in CT. If there is a major Ebola pandemic in America, all of the liberties and the freedoms that you currently enjoy would be gone.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-10/public-health-emergency-declared-connecticut-over-ebola-civil-rights-suspended-indef

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[Bob]

http://www.infowars.com/what-theyre-not-telling-you-4-natural-ways-to-fight-ebola/

Amid the mainstream media hype surrounding Ebola, it may come as major shock to discover that for quite some time there have been major scientific breakthroughs regarding the numerous ways in which we may be able to diminish or even halt the virus at a base level.

Agreed - all research is still pointing in the direction of certain military groups who have those solutions - there have been at least 4 conventional biochemical routes, and at least 3 plant based routes (probably part of the traditional treatment methods in Africa).. Having spoken just recently to one of two contacts in the area in Africa affected, Sierra Leone is not in a good state, all but one district now affected.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

If the Xenex Germ-Zapping Robot used in a San Antonio hospital (http://www.naturalnews.com/047216_Ebola_contamination_Xenex_ultraviolet_light.html) can kill ebola in health care facilites, I wonder if a variation could be used to kill ebola in the human body?

What comes to mind is an ultra-violet device strapped to one's wrist, of sufficient intensity to reach arteries and veins, and worn for some undefined duration.

Would there be unwanted side effects?

[Bob]

If the Xenex Germ-Zapping Robot used in a San Antonio hospital (http://www.naturalnews.com/047216_Ebola_contamination_Xenex_ultraviolet_light.html) can kill ebola in health care facilites, I wonder if a variation could be used to kill ebola in the human body?

What comes to mind is an ultra-violet device strapped to one's wrist, of sufficient intensity to reach arteries and veins, and worn for some undefined duration.

Would there be unwanted side effects?

In-Vivo (in the body) photodynamic therapy is valid for bacterial and viral infections, I believe the technique of an external shunt procedure was looked at, where photo-illumination happens out-side-the body, and the blood allowed to enter back in - (such as using a vein in the leg to get the blood externally sterily exposable).

By adding photosensitizing chemicals, which attach to viral molecules (or select bacterial proteins), the photo activation energy then induces the toxic response terminating some key aspect of the pathogen.

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=315585 shows some work done in this field.

It was hypothesized, that "in-vivo-vaccination" would be able to be induced, using whatever viral substance already exists in the body, not requiring some external creation of a "vaccine", and vaccine side effects.. If the virus was sufficiently de-activated in the body using the shunt UV sterilization technique, that would highlight natural killer cell recognition of the now observable virus proteins.

The question is, can sufficient viral de-activation happen fast enough, when dealing with a virus which destroys the body's natural defence killer cells? With the filoviruses, the destruction happens very fast, and kidney and liver function is damaged or destroyed, the spleen, and so forth..

A good article also to look at another "filtering method" to remove selected toxins, and viruses is here: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/artificial-spleen-removes-ebola-hiv-viruses-toxins-blood-using-magnets-1465585 (Artificial spleen)..

The issue with ebola and marburg is getting it shut down fast enough, so that it doesn't overload the natural immune system, and the damage to internal organs. The dialysis techniques for kidney, and the artificial spleen are good tools to keep the body functioning which allows for natural rebuilding and repair. Those types of tools don't exist out in the bush, so the most rapid method to date is to use prophylactic anti-viral chemicals, or very rapid use of an anti-viral before excessive organ damage happens.

[Roisin]

OMG! Here's a video of Obama giving a press conference from Air Force One on the Ebola Crisis while flying to a safe and secure undisclosed location. (just something I threw together... ha, ha).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHNUHPIqEOM&feature=youtu.be

[Matisse]

The nurse Teresa Romero here in Madrid has much improved this past day and they seem optimistic. They have been administering her with the serum ZMob that they got from Belgium, previously this serum had only been tested on monkeys . It is from the same company that makes ZMapp, but it seems there is no ZMapp available. So far the other 17 people under observation in the hospital are without symptoms and all tests have been negative up to date.

[Abhaya]

http://rt.com/usa/195260-texas-ebola-health-care/

2nd us Ebola case confirmed. Health care employee who worked on 1st Ebola victim.

Really Makes me worry about my wife who is a nurse here in Illinois.... :(

[Roisin]

Interesting that they didn't notify the public until just now about this case when they've been keeping an eye on that individual since Friday. So as things go, now begins the search for those who have come into contact with this health worker at that hospital and I'm sure employee's there must be very concerned that this person was found to be positive for that virus. That entire hospital has just been turned into an enormous petri dish for Ebola, just like what's been going on in Spain.

[Bob]

So the second case confirmed, a nurse in Dallas - according to the reports, had "extensive contact" - CDC saying "violated protocol" in a, hmm, what, face saving measure? They got it ALL under control, again? What's the treatment this time. Tylenol for fever? and adding fluids?

Spin control psychiatrists - a network this morning was using a "spin control psychiatrist" to in a smiling face say we need to continue to "TRUST" our medical doctors.

NIH dr. Anthony Fauci says - even though that nurse was using "personal protection equipment", the person was infected.

As pointed out with the nurse in Spain, who is receiving a Canadian antibody form of treatment (see below note), (and she is getting better are the reports), probably only touched her bare skin when taking off the gloves.. CDC pathogen infection control for Class 4 (highly dangerous) pathogens of which EBOLA is rated as such, says disinfect and have medical doctor supervision managing ALL activities. TOTAL INFECTION CONTROL protocol must be used, not a lackadaisical "wing it" approach being apparently conducted which is allowing for infection spread.. AND that CDC has let hospitals get partially trained is highly alarming.

As was pointed out earlier in this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=886843&viewfull=1#post886843), there are many procedures that need to be understood with dealing with a Biological Safety rated pathogen, the highest level is class 4... Ebola and Marburg are class 4 pathogens.

CDC had very documented procedures in how to handle lab experiments to so as to keep them selves safe, and their environment safe. IT IS EXTREMELY CLEAR that they have NOT relayed that data (which was posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=886843&viewfull=1#post886843) very clearly) about understanding the seriousness of the infection AND the nature of it's spread.

SAFE PROTOCOL MEANS follow, to the letter, disinfect disinfect disinfect even when taking off the protection equipment. CDC has the people shower going in (chemically treated disinfected), shower (IN THE SUIT) going out in the chemical disinfectant.

As the surveys of nurses showed, and their statements: "WE ARE NOT PREPARED", not trained, (possibly with inadequate equipment, for this level grade of pathogen, classed 4) is being punctuated once again.. ANYONE saying they have this understood, that there is nothing to see here just doesn't get what this type of infection is about.

A reverse 911 for 4 blocks surrounding the nurse's home was sent out this morning. At least 1 worker who worked with this nurse is now isolated. It was a very calm voice, no worries, everything is being taken care of.. What was the reason for the reverse 911? To have anybody who may have come in contact with the nurse come forth? The "circles" of contact step has to be performed now, WHO did this nurse have contact with? They will use the logic of ONLY after she developed a fever (presenting) would they consider a "contact" valid. If you walked by her house, chances are, there is ZERO likelihood of catching Ebola from her. If you gave her a hug, look at getting yourself checked.

(multiple news sources, this "news" apparently is now going "viral" at the moment, until the minders suppress it)

NOTE: The Canadian research was done under the leadership of Dr. Gary Kobinger who heads the special pathogens research program at the national laboratory. His team had developed a cocktail of three monoclonal antibodies called ZMAb, the rights to which were recently acquired by LeafBio of San Diego, Calif.

LeafBio is collaborating with Mapp Biopharmaceutical, also of San Diego, which is the maker of ZMapp. That is the product given to Dr. Kent Brantly, who works with the relief organization Samaritan’s Purse, and Nancy Writebol, an American missionary who works with the organization Service in Mission. It was also used in other patients (2 have died (http://www.dailytech.com/Second%20ZMappTreated%20Patient%20Dies%20of%20Ebola%20Supplies%20Run%20Out/article36429.htm)), one having infected the Spanish nurse. SO even with zMapp in the system of the Spanish patient, zMapp did NOT stop the virus adequately enough, or the Spanish nurse was infected prior to the patient being treated. Obviously there are a LOT of unknowns in the pathogenity of this particular strain of Ebola-Zaire (which Canada has said IS A UNIQUE variant).. that this virus IS mutating, probably up to much greater than the 300 different variants (as of July).

I am going to recommend again for people who have not seen Bill Ryan's post in this forum (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75776-THE-HOT-ZONE-A-chilling-1995-book-about-Ebola&p=886496&viewfull=1#post886496), in his thread, to please take a look and read the PDF. It is informative, even though it is written as a "story", it is based on important data that should be understood.

[sheme]

BBC are running this as a News Flash

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29587803

[Bob]

Good choice of article there Sheme - tnx..

POINTING OUT the differences of what has lead to health care workers infections:

HAS PROVIDED MINIMAL PROTECTION - (no breathing protection, only a minimal mask)

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/highquality/590/media/images/78068000/jpg/_78068652_ebola_suit_with_title.jpg


ABSOLUTELY INSANE level of checking a potential case: (zero breathing protection skin protection, minimal gloves used for minimal levels of bacteria, not viruses in this example), health care workers die with this level of "protection" dealing with class 4 pathogens.

http://acidcow.com/pics/20140901/ebola_beats_finda_02.jpg

PROPER LEVEL of dealing with the patient, dealing with the contaminated tissue samples, dealing with contaminated tools to take blood, etc..


http://www.cdc.gov/training/QuickLearns/biosafety/images/bsl-4-lab.jpg

The above "hot suit" image shows PROPER PROTECTION BEING USED...

What's wrong, people listening to spin, nothing to see here, it's just a "flu" ?


This shows how our security people are "protected" (nonsense) - the first line of defence to screen to "prevent" people who have potentially an infection from traveling and potentially spreading it


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/12/1413108496191_wps_6_epa04442737_A_handout_pho.jpg


How first line of defence happens on the "front lines" - temperature screening using an optical thermometer, which IS NOT recommended by the FDA (who says a mercury thermometer, or a contact type of digital, or color changing contact strip, would be the only one to be relied on, not an optical, the optical was meant to be a BACKUP system, and has loosely (and erroneously) been interpreted to mean use infra-red optical (touch free) systems first.. definitely a mis-communications there in first line screening - it's been pointed out thermometer screening can be defeated very easily, or accidentally). BUT that would put a crimp in "BUSINESS", if "PROPER" types of temperature monitoring techniques were used, which some financial reporting sites have said, (i.e. travel bans) would harm the ECONOMIES of many businesses and countries.. Screening SLOWS down and inconveniences travelers.. get them through FAST onto their flight... (gees louise..) hmmm


http://61f0684f30eafc6187fa-c58a7833633ddf78e7bad6bba4681d3d.r85.cf3.rackcdn.com/3154-Are-Airport-Ebola-Screenings-Just-For-Show.jpg


The questions being asked, are these airport screenings just for show?

[Rocky_Shorz]

news is still forgetting to mention the first 3 cases, this is actually the 5th in US including the first 3 doctors

[Bob]

CDC is now saying they will do "confirmation" testing of the Dallas Nurse.. With the hospital REFUSING again to release the patient's name.. (so again people are not being given proper alerts so that they can do their own due diligence).. confirmation testing means they now have a NEW SAMPLE of the virus to see how it has mutated. Is it a better bioweapon now or worse is a very easy question to ask, what did the mutation (if any) provide or offer to their researchers?? KEEP that in perspective what EACH infection blood sample provides - specimens .. That technique(*) of using samples of viruses which made it through the human (or primate) is what the Soviet union used to improve their weaponized strain of Marburg. (historical data is available on that, and has been mentioned in this thread).

NIH's Fauci, the pleader for spin control comes on network news to assure us, nothing to see here, everything is perfectly under control - (waves hand and smiles).. It was unfortunate, using the words, "a breach of protocol" - understand that yet? He referred to 1976 studies, totally ignoring what is happening with this new strain. His hand waving was interesting to watch, using head nods to the audience so that they would "agree" with him.. He says well, you know, it most likely (he has a crystal ball you know), she did something wrong taking off her "protective gear".. Fauci refuses to acknowledge their own CDC RULES about how to deal with a class 4 biohazard...

He says, well we will do contact tracing, you know, that is the way to find out who else she came in contact with - be assured nothing to see here, this is nothing to be alarmed about.. We are just going to ask the community of nations around the world to step up to the plate and help build hospitals in Africa (totally diverting the subject of the interview)..

So he says we are not going to recommend shutting down travel.. Again, he goes against MANY very intelligent people who have noted, many congress too have said so.. that STOP incoming flights from hot zone countries... MILITARY will already be screened adequately, and DO NOT stop shipments TO the hotzone countries.. What is so hard to understand about that? Stop INCOMING, unless the person is absolutely guaranteed to be clear of infection.. There is a 100% quarantine policy about importing animals where there is ANY infection in the herd.. China with bird infections happened killed off entire flocks, in farms of such infections.. So it was not just quarantine, it was eradicate.. Simply amazing the POLICY errors happening..

This is insanity, not following improper quarantine techniques. It is easy to do direction control of travel from hot-zone areas.

Australia btw, has said hell no we won't go to West Africa, refusing to send doctors to the area (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/australia-ebola-donation_n_5920284.html). Maybe there is some really good sense there? They did say they will send aid/financial assistance. They explained their reason for not sending doctors, "we don't have the capacity to evacuate our doctors if they get sick.." :) smart way to say it seems, that the situation is impossible at the moment to deal with as-is..

Note (*) -

Nobody pays attention to "bio-amplification". I first learned of this in 1968, the methods used to create antibiotics that would be able to deal with, more effectively, bacterial or spore pathogens. There is a dark side to that though, which scared the bejezus out of me when I connected the deeper dots..

The technique is pretty simple.. Find the medium that the bug will live on, plate it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petri_dish) (the plating technique refers to a petri dish "plate", into the medium, incubate it (at the proper temperature) and then create a highly unique cluster of pathogens in the culture medium...

The next step is then to inoculate the petri dish with some "treatment method", and watch and see what survives or doesn't... (reference http://www.faculty.virginia.edu/evolutionlabs/Antibiotic_Lab_Web_Page.html talks about how to make antibiotic resistant bacteria)...

This is where it gets REALLY interesting... there will be SOME mutations of the pathogen which survive.. What the pathologist microbiologist then does, is capture that cluster, and place that captured mutation in a new petri dish, and incubate once again, thereby amplifying the pathogen.. (gaining more pathogen which survived the "treatment")..

Then they try the treatment again with the amplified strain.. AND if there are any pathogen survivors, to the treatment, meaning the bug didn't die, they capture THOSE BUGS and again repeat the plating steps.. After a while they have a strain (mutations) which have NO CURE, no treatment... and that becomes their bioweapon..

Think about that when you look at samples from virus infections being sent to a repository, those who survive and those who die, those who die despite a known proven treatment (like zMapp), and connect those dots, what could be happening.. the ultimate petri-dish is the human.

[sheme]

I think they have already mutated this virus they await the moment for it's release, every thing is about timing. WE know they are not incompetent , and yet they behave like first year auxiliary staff- correction -the students would not be this stupid- they are just taking orders .

[Bob]

Pointing out how they can do it, shows some light on it, so that it is not wild "fear porn" (which that argument apparently IS being used by the promulgators to take light OFF the nature of using a bioweapon as a control (and herd culling method).. We've pointed out the over-the-counter (practically) generic substances which are effective at 100% cure, not needing vaccination, and not needing exotic "strain specific" (non-mutated) monoclonal antibody treatments.. It's interesting seeing those observations being buried, why and who would want survival methods hidden from view... instead people being lead to alternate useless "treatments"... that could lead to more amplification... good questions to ask..


I think they have already mutated this virus they await the moment for it's release, every thing is about timing. WE know they are not incompetent , and yet they behave like first year auxiliary staff- correction -the students would not be this stupid- they are just taking orders .

UPDATE - listening to the updates today by the CDC director, he said OK the agency made a mistake really, and is reviewing what has been told to people about safety and disease spread..

Logically, one helps people, by giving useful data, not bravado chest beating blaming everyone, force-pushing to be part of the "therefore herd (http://www.szhoma.com/lang_en/news-show_922/)" with the would-be alpha horn butting trying vying for a position..

Compassion, education, showing and pointing out where help can be given (and hopefully received), this concept of as a planet - "we are all in this together", and as a group, a global family, helping each other sort it out, is a good thing..

For CDC to hear the message is heartwarming.. Of course I wish it would have been done sooner, but maybe the machine works at the speed that those running the "governor" will allow it.

We'll try as a group to continue to move through the darkness, and try to hold the hands of those who fall (maybe with gloves or without :) ).

[Woody]

Hi guys,
Are there many children dying of Ebola? Or is it mainly adults?

Thanks,
Woody

[Bob]

Hi guys,
Are there many children dying of Ebola? Or is it mainly adults?

Thanks,
Woody

Heya Woody - thanks for asking - without getting the statistics from all the governments reporting in the region of west Africa (Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone), generally it is known, whole families are being taken out. The ratio of children to adults normally in a healthy family could possibly be 2-6 more children than adults. The virus doesn't discriminate in it's lethality over adults or children. The younger age shown below in the Liberian health statistics reports show the mean ages currently affected. Early on I recall reading that younger females were mainly affected, possibly by them being primary care givers for the family.

The data below now shows as of 23 September, statistically males of a certain age group are the primary affected people.

The first index case was reported to be a child (December 2013) which was brought to a clinic which started the wildfire in west Africa.. It could also be assumed that children would be buried quietly, and not reported, so that possibly that practice (http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/sns-rt-us-health-ebola-children-20140930,0,4158726.story)could be a source of lower statistical numbers..

The big issues are people (in west Africa) are afraid to report (don't trust the doctors), for a couple reasons, one being forced to go to a clinic and die (they believe they will die if they go the clinics, cause no effective anti-virals are being used, just "supportive care", keeping liquids up, an fever down).. and they don't believe in western medicines. Both Sierra Leone and Liberia have been accused of deliberately UNDER-REPORTING infections and deaths. So the statistics could most likely be skewed.. Even highly modernized, Saudi Arabia with the Mers_nCov infections have actually been shown to under-report or NOT report infectious disease outbreaks... It seems to me trying to get reliable statistical data, children, verses adults would be difficult..

All Africa (http://allafrica.com/stories/201409230595.html) - a reporting source from Africa says this: (the report was from September 23rd


Monrovia — As Liberia and the international community continue to fight the deadly Ebola virus, latest analytical review of the Ebola virus disease by health authorities in the country suggests that more males have now contracted the deadly disease compared to females who initially topped the list.

Assistant Health Minister for curative and preventive services Tolbert Nyenswah told journalists Monday that the sudden twist in the infection per gender is being g medically investigated to establish why more males are being infected now than females, but so far 70% of the current Ebola infections are occurring in males while 30% occurs in females.

Giving an analysis of the disease by age, Minister Nyenswah told reporters at the regular press briefing of the Ministry of Information Cultural Affairs and Tourism on Monday that ages between 25-34 years are highly affected by Ebola followed by females 35-44 years proceeded by ages 45-54 years.

Said Minister Nyenswah: "The disease is less incident in children under five. Some children that are affected, but least affected are children under five and other least affected are aged above 65 years. So we have to concentrate ages between 25-35 to 44."

Explaining the prevalence of the disease among health care workers, Minister Nyenswah disclosed that nurses are the most affected while nurse aid who are otherwise known as unskilled health workers are the hardest hit. More cases are being reported in nurse aid workers as compared to physician assistants, doctors and other health care workers, the Minister said.

Continued Min. Nyenswah: "Some association that somebody was making in our analysis is that because these nurse aids are the people that the skilled people can tell go and get the patient in, carry the patient in the bed. At the hospital and another level these are the people that they use so we have to do more analysis why this group is mostly affected."

Pointing to the epidemiological map of Montserrado County, Minister Nyenswah revealed that the Ebola virus infection is now highly concentrated in Caldwell, New Kru Town, New Georgia, Logan Town and West Point. He said the newly open island clinic will help reduce cases in the listed communities and carry on social mobilization and case findings in the respective communities.

If the reader may recall, beligerant people saying "EBOLA DOES NOT EXIST" broke into a clinic in Monrovia, stealing hospital supplies, contaminated bedding and so forth, bringing that into the West Point district. We had pictures in the post earlier on in this thread, showing the level of close proximity in living conditions, and sanitation issues).. As noted above in the report from the Ministry, WEST POINT now is one of the highly concentrated areas for the Ebola infection. So, hmm, about that lack of education.. Seems that the spreading "fear porn" being spewed around to specifically ignore Ebola, or downplay hemorrhagic fevers only contributes to the spread more so.. It seems that the ministries are starting to connect those dots.

[Woody]

Thanks Bob,
I was just wondering if childrens immune systems were able to fight off the Ebola better than the older population, due to our immune system being battered by chemtrails and pollution etc for many years.

Regards,
Woody

[sheme]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790166/nhs-call-centre-workers-trained-spotting-ebola-ordered-send-ambulance-workers-chemical-protection-gear-suspected-cases.html

Another snippet of information about our plans to fight Ebola.

[Bob]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790166/nhs-call-centre-workers-trained-spotting-ebola-ordered-send-ambulance-workers-chemical-protection-gear-suspected-cases.html

Another snippet of information about our plans to fight Ebola.

Seeing UK paying attention and now going at least to bio-containment level 3 safety is a LOT BETTER - the public can be made aware, and all responders and care givers, the personnel that would be coming into potential contact should be given proper training; with emphasis on some key factors such as showing a proficiency and a demonstrated ability to follow needed safety steps, and have the proper equipment and know how to use it.

CDC lab people IN HOUSE use level 4 containment. Why should that be downplayed?

This post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=886843&viewfull=1#post886843 shows, from CDC training, what level 1- level 4 facilities are, and a very brief explanation of how to relate to the level of pathogen danger, and why such pathogens are only dealt with safely in the different graded facilities.

A level 4 classed biosafety facility IS EXPENSIVE, more so than using some gloves and a set of goggles and an outer garment and a low grade mask; and a question - should the safety of people be skimped on ? As it appears there is a lot of data surfacing that the key bio-agency labs have access to and probably have stockpiled excellent treatment methods, have understood and applied adequate security and safety protocols for dealing with pathogens; for this viral ebola-zaire (modified strain) infection as well as MANY OTHERS; and that these groups have methods to protect the troops, at least protection exists at least, for a particular strain...If that conjecture is to be taken at face value, then is it a simple question to ask why are the People not being told the full story, not given access to successful treatment methods, and have to go searching to learn about infections such as the hemorrhagic fevers, how to deal with them, how to care for, how to prevent another infection? Shouldn't folks who specialize in health care, practice the best stewardship? This level of understanding is not achieved in a First Aid class, neither the basic nor advanced.

Some references to earlier posts in this thread - on Liberia patients, images of deaths, etc.
http://rt.com/files/news/2d/15/40/00/eboebo-1.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=870324&viewfull=1#post870324

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=868865&viewfull=1#post868865

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=869596&viewfull=1#post869596

and

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=866786&viewfull=1#post866786

There are numerous useful posts for reference within this thread detailing background, cases, incidents, outbreak locations and some statistics; the above will help the reader by providing some useful key datum, and offer as well, a few points to be reiterated.

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/world/2014/09/02/14958899/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomworld-topstories

"Ebola patient in Liberia escapes and chased through market.." the video on the page shows some of the dynamic happening, how the patient was rounded up apparently refusing to go back.

[Bob]

CDC Director now says, they are apologizing to the nurse in Dallas, that their procedures, or how they are being carried out, have not been "optimum" for the conditions at hand. That the nurse had been following instructions and IS and has been highly professional, and that possibly the equipment is inadequate of dealing with this virus.

(multiple sources and live newsconference)

Update - Frieden reminds people, well, that being the case, it is possible now that others are infected, and they are trying to determine who that may be. (assumption is it is others who have used similar "PPE's" (personal protection equipments) in the hospital arena or "theatre". Theatre is used typically to define a battle-ground, where staging is conducted formally in conducting a "war". Depending on the nature of the infection(s), it could rapidly be controlled, or it could be spread, the data is insufficient at this time..)

[Bob]

About that warm and fuzzy taking of temperature to see if Ebola might be there (screenings, airports..)

The New England Journal of Medicine, analyzed data on 3,343 confirmed and 667 probable cases of Ebola. (prior to the bump over 4030 confirmed deaths)

Observation, statistically that 87.1% of those infected exhibited fever — however, 12.9% did not. That being the case, about 13% could escape screening by temperature.

Dr. Paul D. Stolley, former chairman of the University of Maryland's Department of Epidemiology and Preventive Medicine, said the matter of Ebola infections could not have a fever and be presenting, "requires further investigation."

(multiple sources reporting - NEJM references : http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1411100 )

UPDATE: just for a simple experiment if anybody has an optical thermometer able to accurately search and display temperature at-a-distance like from 1-5 feet away, maybe try taking your temperature - when I tried doing it where shown in the various screening pictures seen with airport screeners, mine reads between 3 and 4 degrees LOW.. A fever then being looked for in the critical "screening area temperature range" would read just under the warning level.. hmmm

[Matisse]

CDC Director now says, they are apologizing to the nurse in Dallas, that their procedures, or how they are being carried out, have not been "optimum" for the conditions at hand. That the nurse had been following instructions and IS and has been highly professional, and that possibly the equipment is inadequate of dealing with this virus.

(multiple sources and live newsconference)

Update - Frieden reminds people, well, that being the case, it is possible now that others are infected, and they are trying to determine who that may be. (assumption is it is others who have used similar "PPE's" (personal protection equipments) in the hospital arena or "theatre". Theatre is used typically to define a battle-ground, where staging is conducted formally in conducting a "war". Depending on the nature of the infection(s), it could rapidly be controlled, or it could be spread, the data is insufficient at this time..)



Yes, I think it is necessary to remember that these are hospitals not bio-labs, they don't have at all the same working conditions, equipment nor infrastructures as a laboratory. The government her in Spain at one point was trying to blame the nurse for being infected so the blame wouldn't fall on them. The medical workers deserve the utmost respect, they are on the front line working with what they have under very abnormal circumstances. Look how many medical staff has been infected in Africa, I think close to 600 out of the 8,000 cases.

[Bob]

Looks like the Dallas officials won't kill RN's Nina Pham's dog even though she is diagnosed with Ebola..


DALLAS (AP) — Officials say a year-old King Charles Spaniel has been taken from the Dallas apartment of an Ebola-infected nurse and will be cared for at an undisclosed location.

Nurse Nina Pham's apartment is being thoroughly cleaned after tests over the weekend confirmed she is infected.

Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said Monday evening that the dog would be cared for in "undisclosed location in a humane, caring way." City spokeswoman Sana Syed says the dog named Bentley will be comfortable and have toys to play with while he is monitored away from people.


http://s1.favim.com/orig/16/cavalier-king-charles-spaniel-cute-puppy-Favim.com-189116.jpg

Example of King Charles Spaniel puppy

There is a concern that canines can harbour the Ebola virus and not present symptoms.



Meanwhile a Kansas hospital is currently isolating a possible Ebola Patient.. (CNN live update)

[Bob]

It was mentioned that a PERSON with ebola, was transferred to Germany for treatment - he died

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/world/europe/ebola-patient-dies-in-german-hospital.html?_r=0


BERLIN — A 56-year-old man who had been working with the United Nations in Liberia died overnight at the hospital in Leipzig where he was being treated for Ebola, the hospital said Tuesday in a statement quoted by the German news media.

The brief statement gave no further details. The man was the third patient to arrive in Germany in recent weeks for treatment of Ebola, and the first to die.

There are two others, a Senegalese man working for WHO was treated in August (quietly), and then released..in OCTOBER.

Another is an Ugandan doctor working for an Italian Aid Agency, who continues to remain in the hospital.

The dead man arrival last Thursday in a statement issued by the hospital. At the time, doctors said his condition was critical, but stable, and there were no further updates on his status.

The hospital is the St. Georg clinic of Leipzig.

[Bob]

Dr. Brantly, keeps on giving..

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/13/6196343/nurse-with-ebola-was-tcu-grad.html

Dr. Kent Brantly, one who survived the virus possibly with the help of a transfusion himself early on plus zMapp, a spokeswoman at the Samaritan’s Purse charity said on Tuesday, that he gave blood for a serum for RN Nancy Pham who was infected by "equipment malfunction", or "improper equipment use", or (?) while working on the now deceased Thomas Duncan.


Medical records show that some 70 staff members at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, including Pham, were involved in the care of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan before his death last week, The Associated Press reported Monday.

The employees, including Pham, drew Duncan’s blood, put tubes down his throat and wiped up his diarrhea. They analyzed his urine and wiped saliva from his lips, even after he had lost consciousness.

The size of the medical team reflects the hospital’s intense effort to save Duncan’s life and also suggests that many other people could have been exposed to the virus. The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the agency must broaden the pool of people being monitored.

[Bob]

Dr Frieden is giving another press conference saying all they need to do is learn to take the equipment off properly, put it on properly..

HE CONTINUES to neglect what his lab people do in the Class IV bio-containment facilities.. SHOWER IN THE DISINFECTANT BEFORE, SHOWER AFTERWARDS in a safe containment isolation room..

Don't do that, and the infection is transferred OUTSIDE the patient room to some other location...

Common sense Dr. please? Remind people about how to disinfect properly?

Why aren't staff using the proper biocontaiment suit by the way?

Downplaying safety certainly, and not telling the whole story about how to use the RIGHT equipment, is not optimum stewardship..


http://www.bepast.org/docs/photos/Ebola/CDC_biosafety_suit.jpg

the above is what your labs use for Ebola, why not nurses and doctors, and others who work with patients in hot-zone isolation?

(source - live news conference)

also

see http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/13/dr-manny-cdc-director-dr-thomas-frieden-should-resign/

Dr. Manny is livid.. and i mean really upset about what he is hearing


Right now, I’m not as afraid of Ebola as I am of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The agency held a press conference Monday to provide an update on the transmission of Ebola to a nurse that cared for Thomas Eric Duncan.

After listening to this update, I have to say, I am more convinced than ever that CDC director, Dr. Tom Frieden is not the right person for the job. And I say this because this latest press conference consisted of him telling a room of reporters what anyone who has ever dealt with Ebola in the past should have known.

see that article for details..

[Bob]

In a major clampdown (apparent), the editors on MSM have been now told, PLAY IT DOWN, bring in the psychiatrists to (watch the hand waving...) "calm everyone down.." - and did so RIGHT while Frieden was talking - now he definitely is like watching paint dry, unless that paint is the crinkly style which is much more entertaining... the point being when some of the MSM reporters exhibited HUMANITY, apparently their teleprompters were switched to new COPY..

What is being hidden, that at the outset to bring Dr. Brantly in to much concern of many people, to Emory University next to CDC HQ and put into extreme isolation, treated as a real hotzone patient IN the hospital (but not during transport, which was pointed out).... that these other hospitals are not a proper class 4 bioweapons capable facility.. They are a modern version of what is happening in some of the field hospitals, as far as their "containment" gear.. they may have some fancy heart monitors, breathing units, dialysis units, but they are NOT EMORY, they are not where the first patient was brought...

IF they weren't concerned Dr. Brantly would have gone to one of the general hospitals, and treated..

INSTEAD they did what they thought was right, get him right next to CDC where his samples could rapidly be gotten to CDC labs for analysis.. AND put him in a good isolation unit, designed to TREAT SPECIFICALLY CDC personnel infected abroad.. IT was not designed for treating patients such as GENERAL PUBLIC...

WHAT we have here is a general public hospital being put into a situation where class 4 severity pathogens have to be handled.

Those are the dots being missed... how can anyone forget so quickly when Dr. Brantly was transported in?

HOW can anyone think that a Dallas hospital is anywhere up to speed, or is setup as Emory?

Emory was designed as 1 of a handful of special facilities to deal with class 4 pathogens..

(rocket science again, hmm... or?)

Lets back the clock up a few pages back to here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=860256&viewfull=1#post860256

That shows a proper isolation unit. If the hospitals don't have that they are "winging it", flying on a prayer that they won't mess up and infect another patient, or nurse or doctor, or God forbid, get a release into the environment and the People.

[Agape]

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-tech-to-make-ebola-vaccine-israeli-firm-was-there-first/

In tech to make Ebola vaccine, Israeli firm was there first



Tobacco plants may be key to treating the dread disease – and Israel’s CollPlant knows more about ‘tobacco treatments’ than anyone

Scientists around the world scrambling to find a treatment for Ebola are looking to the tobacco plant for assistance, as a vehicle to synthesize antibodies for a vaccine. And that means they are likely to be looking towards Israel’s CollPlant, a company that is a pioneer in the development of recombinant proteins using tobacco plants.

While CollPlant is not involved with the development of Zmapp, the tobacco-synthesized “cocktail” being developed by several American companies that, so far, is the only Ebola treatment on the horizon, the Israeli company knows a great deal about large-scale production of human cells in tobacco plants, said Prof. Oded Shoseyov, founder and chief scientific officer of CollPlant. “We were the first company in the world to use tobacco plants to do large-scale manufacturing of human proteins, and to receive EU permission to market tobacco-synthesized human elements,” he told The Times of Israel in an interview.

Zmapp, according to its inventors, San Diego-based Leaf Bio and Mapp Biopharmaceutical, with assistance from Defyrus Inc. of Toronto, the US government and the Public Health Agency of Canada, “is composed of three humanized monoclonal antibodies manufactured in plants, specifically Nicotiana. It is an optimized cocktail combining the best components of” three antibodies. The antibodies bind to proteins on the Ebola virus, which triggers the immune system and destroys the germ.

Zmapp, according to its makers, was first identified as a possible treatment last January. It has since been used on several Ebola victims in Liberia, with mixed results. It has been administered to about half a dozen patients, with most surviving. Although tests on animals have shown positive results, Zmapp has not been tested clinically on humans.

Nevertheless, Zmapp is the world’s best bet for an Ebola treatment, at least right now. The problem is, there are not enough doses to conduct clinical trials – or to treat patients, for that matter. Production is being handled by a company called Kentucky Bioprocessing (KBP), which has been using tobacco plants to synthesize Zmapp. Tobacco plants are injected with Ebola virus and fused with genes for a natural tobacco virus. The plant then responds, producing antibodies to fight the virus. The antibodies are extracted and injected in Ebola victims, hopefully curing them.

It was CollPlant that pioneered the mass production of human materials in tobacco plants. “We didn’t invent the method, but we have taken it farther than anyone else,” said Shoseyov. Using nanotechnology, CollPlant produces human collagen from tobacco plants, a far better way to produce an element essential to repairing bones and joints than the alternatives – using materials extracted from cows and pigs to produce artificial collagen.



Collagen is a key component of the body, playing a major role in connective tissue and used by the body to repair broken bones and joints. When a splint is applied to a broken bone and the two separated parts of the bone are joined, the body will usually produce enough collagen to complete the repair process. However, if part of the bone is missing, the body will be unable to replace or repair it. In those cases, artificial collagen can be applied to the break, with a scaffold holding the elements in place, allowing the body to use the inserted collagen to make the repair.

Artificial collagen made from pigs and cows is common but not ideal. An alternative is harvesting of human collagen from corpses. Human collagen from the dead is more effective for the body, but collagen can be harvested only from donors, so supplies are limited.

CollPlant’s solution allows the production of real human collagen – producing material that can be most efficiently used by the human body – without the need to rely on the dead. CollPlant’s technology inserts human collagen into tobacco plants that are raised in hothouses, ensuring that they remain isolated from the food chain. The bio-engineered plants mimic the natural synthesis of authentic human protein and produces Procollagen, the natural precursor of collagen. The Procollagen collected from the plants and is processed into CollPlant’s artificial collagen product.

“Tobacco has a big biomass, and it grows quickly; you can grow a six-foot-tall plant in under two months,” said CollPlant CEO Yehiel Tal. “The production process is easy to control using our technology. We know how much collagen there is in the leaves produced by the plants, and can regulate its strength. And tobacco leaves are big, so they hold lots of collagen.”

CollPlant, which has been in business for about six years, is also the most experienced company in the world at producing large amounts of complex human materials in tobacco plants, said Shoseyov. “There are several companies, for example, developing ways to produce insulin in tobacco plants, but insulin is just a single protein. Collagen is much more complicated. To produce it you have to synthesize five human genes, a very difficult feat. I don’t know of any other company that can do this.”

As such, CollPlant is ready and able to help out the makers of Zmapp, or anyone else, who might seek assistance in the production process. Not that they need any help, said Shoseyov. “We know them very well, and they know what they are doing. We have been in touch with them on a regular basis; the community of researchers doing work in this area is very small.”

CollPlant’s experience in this area is likely to become an important resource in many areas of medical treatment. Production of collagen, antibodies, proteins, and other human material via plants – especially tobacco plants – is the wave of the future, said Shoseyov.

“The investment numbers make so much more sense, both in development – the ‘upstream’ – and testing and production – the ‘downstream,’” he said. “Currently, manufacturers have to set up clean rooms with all sorts of gear and equipment, at a cost of as much as $100 million, in order to develop new cures. In addition, these facilities require all sorts of government licenses and authorizations, so the process between the beginning of research and production could take as long as five years. Setting up a greenhouse for experimental medicine costs about a half million dollars, and requires a lot less government oversight,” he said.

“In addition, researchers working on a treatment don’t have to be as careful with procedures to prevent germs and viruses from spreading – because plants do not harbor human pathogens. The research process can be relaxed, with researchers putting more of their attention into solving problems. More researchers and companies are looking at these methods to develop treatments of all kinds, and that, I believe, will benefit everyone,” Shoseyov added.

If there was one piece of advice Shoseyov has for the Zmapp makers, it’s this: “Just do it. The methods of production are as simple as raising tomatoes and lettuce – and the world is waiting for this.”



This sounds bit weird however .. hope they'll meet success . :p Tobacco plant used to develop anti-bodies against Ebola . Wow.

[Matisse]

I think that something that hasn't been discussed much is the begining of this outbreak, which seems to have occured in a village named Meliandou, Guinea, last december. There have been a few dozen outbreaks of ebola since the 70's but this is the first one that has occured outside the Congo river basin, (some 2000 miles, 3200 km. away) and also the first one not to be contained (either through burnout or medical isolation). So it seems we are on virgin territory in that respect. Also from what I understand the more people infected the more chance of mutation. So what are your guys thoughts?

[Matisse]

A second health worker in the US state of Texas has tested positive for Ebola, health officials say.

Both health workers treated Liberian man Thomas Duncan, who died last week after becoming the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the US.

[Roisin]

A second health worker in the US state of Texas has tested positive for Ebola, health officials say.

Both health workers treated Liberian man Thomas Duncan, who died last week after becoming the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the US.

There was a lead up to this because the CDC already hinted soon after the first Dallas health worker tested positive for Ebola that there will be others at the hospital who will be testing positive for that virus too.

Yesterday we started seeing some news articles about how sloppy the conditions were at that hospital as reported by a nurses union that claims to have interviewed personnel who cared for Duncan.

That story may be true but unions are not exactly the best source to go to for information of that sort because they are notorious for slanting and exaggerating facts on behalf of the union and those they represent to get what they want.

But I'm guessing those reports on that union information was let loose to the media, with the CDC's blessings because it supports their statements about how the first nurse caught ebola... that "breaching protocol" thing..

The CDC already knew that a second nurse was infected too hence why that union information was released to the media yesterday to prepare the public for yet another case of ebola of another nurse at that hospital that was finally reported today.

Ok, so what does all of this mean? Well, if this had happened a few days ago, I would have said that it's all about our gov't's ongoing concern about causing public panic when releasing new negative updates about this outbreak. Sort of like how our gov't's have been denying the existence of UFOs, for example, because of their concern that once the public finds out that UFOs are real, all hell will break loose.

But just like it is with the UFO cover-up, we know that their reasons for doing that are much more sinister and in reality have nothing at all to do with the public's well-being. lol

So it's the same situation here with this Ebola epidemic and those cases that are popping up in the States and elsewhere outside of W.Africa. Disinformation by the CDC is not about preventing public panic and more about something that has nothing to do with our protection and well being and everything to do with their own sinister agenda's where the meme's that pop up on that one are NWO, population control, military manufacturing of weaponized lethal virus's, implementation of a forced Ebola vaccination program etc.....

PS -- not saying anything new here. Just talking to myself to help me process everything as each new thing comes up wrt this epidemic.

[Bob]

26-year-old nurse Amber Vinson, another Nurse was isolated Tuesday after she developed a slight fever, but she’d flown to Dallas from Cleveland the day before her temperature rose.

So of course, Federal officials are tracking down people who were on the same flight she took.

Frontier Flight 1143

Amber exhibited no signs or symptoms of illness while on flight 1143, according to the crew.

Frontier is working closely with CDC to identify and notify passengers who may have traveled on flight 1143 on Oct. 13.

"oops?"

[Bob]

Why would CDC notify passengers?

CDC and their talking heads have repeatedly said, close contact needing bodily fluids to catch it..

Common really, "it's not catchable while flying", specifically the other day CDC officials saying they would gladly fly on a plane next to a passenger with Ebola..

Then out come the official scripts that are on the teleprompters that the anchors need to repeat, and convince the audience, "no outbreak in America.." Then come the psychiatrists, trained doctors to convince and be assuring, "stay calm..."

132 passengers flew with Amber on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 on Monday evening, which landed in Dallas at 8:16 p.m.

And the attendants said she was not exhibiting symptoms. And they are now qualified trained first responders we are to believe.. And having a glass of water, taken by hand, by the steward or stewardess, would of course not have any residual bodily fluids from the nurse, and of course the next passenger asking for a refill would have no contact with the steward or stewardess - they use gloves changed between each passenger, handling the cups, the stuff from the galley - oh oops, that doesn't happen, there is no isolation from passenger to cabin crew when serving.. Everything is freely transferred person to cabin crew to person.. Cough near air intakes? Pee in the loo? Someone re-use the loo?

A few questions to ask and not gloss over, right? The "strategy" is to bring up some distraction, such as let's all go talk about the statistics of Ebola in 2003 and use that data to explain mutated strains how they are going to perform, let's ignore the statistic that 13% of the people with active Ebola have not presented obvious symptoms such as elevated temperature.. Lets ignore the word "mostly" from some talking head medicos saying "Ebola has not mutated (very much) since it appeared". One mutation could be enough to change it substantially. There are over 300 reported as of a couple months ago, possibly thousands by now.. By the end of the year, African mutations could be upped further.. With a projection being reported of 10,000 new cases every other week, possibly 10,000 per week, statistically that could allow for many thousands of mutations.. The virus changes its genetics slightly, so that the fittest virus that destroys what is killing the virus is able to replicate - that is what survival mutation does.. Some mutations could make the virus less able, or distort its shape.. That is what mutation is about.. The mutations to be alert about are those which change if it triggers elevated temperature or not, or if it can hide longer without being noticed, and if it can "bud silently" and spread, and then go full blown to attack the host, in other words, latent dormancy..

Not airborne, no contact from cabin crew during galley services, or no going to the loo - no worry, CDC has assured us they have it all under control, no touched the seat back cushions while getting into that nice tight seat.. yup, nothing to see here, move along..

[sheme]

WHO predict 10,000 cases a week before Christmas.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/ebola/who-warns-there-could-be-10000-new-cases-of-ebola-a-week-by-christmas-30666334.html


http://www.independent.ie/world-news/ebola/460-irish-citizens-are-living-in-countries-worst-hit-by-virus-30665490.html

[Bob]

So 70 or so health care staff at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital were in the Ebola loop, those taking care of Thomas Duncan who died, most likely because the hospital first either mis-diagnosed, or sent him home knowing he had a potential for spreading.. Only a relative insisting to the health services that Mr. Duncan was ill, and had come back from West Africa did anyone pay attention, in public.. While quiet, nothing was happening.

I have seen this behaviour exactly, first hand with my own experience dealing with coming back with Mers_nCov, with a relative dying because of the hospital and attending doctor "team" behavior..

I saw good compassionate sympathy with NURSES, but they are forced to take ORDERS by those in authority. THAT is the key item.. They have the floor doctor responsible, the floor supervisor - both follow the protocols established by the hospital corporation within they work. Violate management and they are cited.

So of course one could ask the obvious? HOW COME THE TEAM IS ALLOWED TO FREELY TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY - especially since the authorities KNOW they had a "error in protocol" to use their words?

STOP the travel already with the staff that used the defective equipment, or had cross contaminated something, or themselves..

[Bob]

Village Bend East apartments where Amber (the second nurse from the hospital's qualified emergency "isolation critical care team") floor and residence was being sprayed, "disinfected".. early this morning. Nurse Amber Joy Vinson, 29, reported a fever on Tuesday, so after about 90 minutes she was then back at the hospital now herself in "isolation"..


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz-30f0CMAA44iW.jpg:large
The airline has put out a statement:
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/frontier-airlines-puts-out-statement-on-ebola-stricken-nurse-who-flew-on-cleveland-dallas-flight.html/


Frontier Airlines Statement

“At approximately 1:00 a.m. MT on October 15, Frontier was notified by the CDC that a customer traveling on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth on Oct. 13 has since tested positive for the Ebola virus. The flight landed in Dallas/Fort Worth at 8:16 p.m. local and remained overnight at the airport having completed its flying for the day at which point the aircraft received a thorough cleaning per our normal procedures which is consistent with CDC guidelines prior to returning to service the next day. It was also cleaned again in Cleveland last night. Previously the customer had traveled from Dallas Fort Worth to Cleveland on Frontier flight 1142 on October 10.

Customer exhibited no symptoms or sign of illness while on flight 1143, according to the crew. Frontier responded immediately upon notification from the CDC by removing the aircraft from service and is working closely with CDC to identify and contact customers who may traveled on flight 1143.

Customers who may have traveled on either flight should contact CDC at 1 800 CDC-INFO.

The safety and security of our customers and employees is our primary concern. Frontier will continue to work closely with CDC and other governmental agencies to ensure proper protocols and procedures are being followed.”



(see the previous page in this thread for context (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=888248&viewfull=1#post888248))


132 passengers flew with Amber on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 on Monday evening, which landed in Dallas at 8:16 p.m.

And the attendants said she was not exhibiting symptoms.

And they are now qualified trained first responders we are to believe..

And having a glass of water, taken by hand, by the steward or stewardess, (cabin Crew) would of course not have any residual bodily fluids from the nurse, and of course the next passenger asking for a refill would have no contact with the steward or stewardess - they use gloves changed between each passenger, handling the cups, the stuff from the galley - oh oops, that doesn't happen, there is no isolation from passenger to cabin crew when serving.. Everything is freely transferred person to cabin crew to person.. Cough near air intakes? Pee in the loo? Someone re-use the loo?

A few questions to ask and not gloss over, right?

The "strategy" is to bring up some distraction, such as let's all go talk about the statistics of Ebola in 2003 and use that data to explain mutated strains how they are going to perform,
let's ignore the statistic that 13% of the people with active Ebola have not presented obvious symptoms such as elevated temperature..

(Then "they" look for any possible distraction to "change the topic".. and play that up..)

Lets ignore the word "mostly" from some talking head medicos saying "Ebola has not mutated (very much) since it appeared". One mutation could be enough to change it substantially. There are over 300 reported as of a couple months ago, possibly thousands by now.. By the end of the year, African mutations could be upped further..

[Roisin]

Uh, so Amber flew from Cleveland to Dallas? What the heck was she doing in Cleveland? And specifically, where was she in Cleveland? Now this narrative is getting a little too close to home. yikes!

Hmmm, wondering now about who was at Cleve. Hopkins when she was there... I live right near there btw. 10 min. away to be specific. :twitch:

[Bob]

Uh, so Amber flew from Cleveland to Dallas? What the heck was she doing in Cleveland? And specifically, where was she in Cleveland? Now this narrative is getting a little too close to home. yikes!

Hmmm, wondering now about who was at Cleve. Hopkins when she was there... I live right near there btw. 10 min. away to be specific. :twitch:

WHY indeed are the 70 team members allowed to travel? Who is dropping the ball, (or rolling it?)

[Meggings]

DO NOT PANIC nor feel FEAR.

[Roisin]

Good question! Amazing isn't it? This is very unsettling.



Uh, so Amber flew from Cleveland to Dallas? What the heck was she doing in Cleveland? And specifically, where was she in Cleveland? Now this narrative is getting a little too close to home. yikes!

Hmmm, wondering now about who was at Cleve. Hopkins when she was there... I live right near there btw. 10 min. away to be specific. :twitch:

WHY indeed are the 70 team members allowed to travel? Who is dropping the ball, (or rolling it?)

[Sidney]

Just for a thought process, a person drinks from a glass of water, and their mouth touches the glass. Saliva will be on the glass, at minimum a microscopic amount, which could absolutely contain enough germ to transfer onto the hand that takes the glass back as in a stewardess/server. This is assuming still, that the virus is not airborne.
If the virus has mutated into an airborne pathogen, we can assume that information will be kept quiet. But for argument sake, we can say the virus is not airborne, they are certainly downplaying the risk of the other people on that flight.

IMO, you have to be crazy to fly during this time. I know, many people don't have a choice professionally. And if ebola is running rampant in africa as they say it is, allowing air travel from Africa to ANYWHERE, is IMO a deliberate move to create a planet wide spread of the disease. No question.

My gut tells me, however, that the numbers spewed through mainstream are going to be very corrupted.

[Jean-Luc]

Interesting take on this article today by Richard Evans on Henry Makow's website


Ebola Pandemic Smells Like a Hoax

The Ebola Epidemic is a hoax on the scale of 9-11 and Sandy Hook. The purpose is to frighten the masses into accepting martial law measures and to send troops to occupy West Africa. It's not Ebola that will get you. It's the vaccines.

http://www.henrymakow.com/#sthash.iRD2pUQD.dpuf

This video referred to in the article is worth a watch, especially from 4:50, with CNN & NYT's use of actors in Africa to "illustrate" the crisis.

http://youtu.be/1ZonCVRQ-2s?t=4m49s


However, AFRICOM is real. Obama is actually President of the United States, and those weren't 4000 GI JOE dolls he's been deploying to West Africa.

Something is killing people in isolated villages in Liberia, Sierra Leon, Ivory Coast, and Nigeria.

The photographic evidence we've been shown is FAKE.

That means we're not being show what's really been going down over there.

[Roisin]

Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson to address news of Ebola patient at Cleveland Hopkins Airport (LIVE COVERAGE)
http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2014/10/cleveland_mayor_frank_jackson_39.html

LEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson and other city officials will hold a news conference this afternoon to address the revelation that a Texas woman with Ebola passed through Cleveland Hopkins International Airport two days ago en route to Dallas.

The woman, a healthcare worker, may have been contagious at the time, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the airline. The CDC is now working to notify the 132 passengers on the flight -- Flight 1143.

The woman was visiting family in Akron from Oct. 8 to Oct. 13, according to the Ohio Department of Health.

Tune in to the comments section below beginning at 2 p.m. for live coverage of this event. You can also watch live streaming video courtesy WKYC.com below.

My comment: Whoever picked her up from Hopkins, they could have stopped at a McDonald's or a Drug store somewhere near my neighborhood before hopping on the highway to Akron. Same goes when they drove back to Hopkins for her to fly back to Dallas when, by then, she was suffering from a low grade fever.

[Bob]

more technical data.. in simple english

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=6527


(An Example of an) "Epidemic" hemorrhagic fever: A syndrome caused by a hantavirus which is transmitted to humans by contact with infected rodents urine or feces. Patients typically develop a high fever, cough, shortness of breath and abdominal or back pain and may go on to develop kidney failure, which is usually temporary.

Many arboviruses (including those in the families Togaviridae, Flaviviridae, Filoviridae, and Bunyaviridae) and the Hantaviruses, spread by rodents or biting insects, can cause epidemic hemorrhagic fever. The Ebola virus is a notorious cause of epidemic hemorrhagic fever.

Bioterrorism -- There has been concern about the hemorrhagic fever as a possible weapon for bioterrorism.

However, the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of the US Congress, in a 1999 report considered hemorrhagic fever to be an "unlikely" biologic threat for terrorism, because these viruses are very difficult to obtain and process, unsafe to handle, and relatively unstable.

The lethal effects of these viruses were deemed by the GAO to depend on the strain but can be "very high."

Derailing aside, the point being made was WHY ARE THE STAFF from the DALLAS HOSPITAL in the isolation unit, the 70, being allowed to FLY..

Appreciate the conspiracy stuff, but let's stay focused on how to deal with infection control, and travel restrictions to prevent infection spread..

THIS data was derived from a RECENT WEBPAGE (10/30/2013) put out by an authority where people would go to get information.. Getting information from a 1999 report, is OLD DATA, not up to date, but notice how old data is used... not current data, but used to say nothing to see here.. that is an example how "incorrect invalid data (because it does not take into account current data that invalidates old data), stale data" in other words is USED.. to divert attention from the moment.. another method used is to cite something totally irrelevant and use that as a justification to "viewer audience drive" in a direction.. MSM uses that all the time.

AND CDC and NIH are using old data examples while doing different things for their own people.

Case in point - EMORY UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL ISOLATION UNIT - was created for CDC personnel who come back infected from overseas (or where-ever they may become infected).. If they were not concerned about infections, there would NOT BE an EMORY class 4 biocontainment HOSPITAL.. IT's not a LAB - its a HOSPITAL ISOLATION UNIT setup to deal with what CDC calls a class-4 bioweaponizable pathogen..

Simple logic, not a pHd to understand, - why have class 4 hospitals (only a handful in the US), when they are so expensive and cost cutting would shut such facilities down.. BUT they are there and being used.. IF there is no reason for it, they would not waste the money, they would pocket it.. simple logic..

Reference about "presenting", verses NO-FEVER noted - one can present in other ways..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=887869&viewfull=1#post887869

2-10 virus particles are required typically, if the eye is wiped for instance and the virus enters the eye. That is known data by the health agencies. As a member points out, totally discounting ANY airborne, but going with the medical drum beat, "it must be close direct contact with saliva", show me how one is going to typically or normally drink out of a cup without putting your lips (or hold) - on such.. there is enough data to show cross-contamination happens. Gloves are not used between the cabin crew and the passengers requesting a refill. Anybody wipe their mouth, with their hand, rub their own eyes or face after a flight? During the flight?

DIVERSION - change the subject say, WATCH MY LIPS, nothing to see here, don't cry wolf was the last comment made, in a very soft voice, and clearly one could see the anchor reading the teleprompter --- it looked VERY obvious as it was emphasised the teleprompter was being read.

None of the anchors are pointing out any of those data. For an obvious reason, to stop getting people aware, because it is going to COST MONEY.. A mainstream LIVE news anchor basically was saying read my lips, such concerns are damaging the STOCK MARKET.. think about that $$$ is the issue... a reason why proper sanitary procedures are not used ??? cause it costs a few cents more that is NOT going into some pocket?

One of the reporters just pointed out SHE (Amber, this second nurse) FLEW, KNOWING SHE HAD A LOW grade fever as well, not the EBOLA threshold they have arbitrarily set... she was presenting, but not according to the arbitrary threshold set by the agencies.

THINK about that.. that magic threshold, she was using CDC recommended temperature numbers and no doubt said, heck, why be concerned. HIGHER fever is the indicator.. hmmm

[sheme]

We shall soon see if the apparent new mortality rate is accurate -70% mortality is a big jump in numbers. On the news this am it described the abandonment of many of Africa's Ebola orphans.

I pray for peace for the People. The defeat of the virus and those that betray humanity.

[avid]

http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12643
This forum epitomises the lack of knowledge and preparedness that the poor folk dealing with this tragedy were faced with - did they even know how to decontaminate themselves safely?
I suspect there is a 'deliberateness' in this, to promote fear and panic, and to promote unwarranted vaccinations, but there is definitely a control mechanism in place. It would seem that perhaps any potentially contaminated persons are involved, may be have been given 'something' - vaccination or subcutaneous 'whatever', or none - but now they are getting ill....
This is why the folk in Africa ran when the WHO came, as they knew they would be made ill, and not being effected any cures.

[Bob]

Nurse Amber is going to Emory -

DALLAS - A 26-year-old nurse identified as the second Texas hospital worker to test positive for Ebola is "ill but clinically stable" and will be transferred late Wednesday to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, the Centers for Disease Control..

(numerous sources)


CDC now realizing maybe Dallas isn't the smartest place to house Ebola patients. (ya think?)

meanwhile nurses in Dallas saying CDC need to have their heads examined - paraphrasing a bit.. that infection control is not being followed properly in the hospitals that CDC has assured the american public are adequately trained, capable and safe to deal with hemorrhagic fever pathogens.

Now CDC immediately gets access to any mutation that Amber would have.. They are only a few minutes away from Emory, basically ON-CAMPUS. SO what does that mean? each mutation comes when a virus resists the 1) natural killer cells that the body uses, that the VIRUS goes after immediately to destroy - overwhelm, derail - and then allow for the spread of it's toxin, expecting to infect other "cells" to carry its message. or 2) a supplementary treatment substance such as an externally created (and injected) antibody treatment, or 3) an anti-viral agent which could be in someway defeated by the pathogen

Joys for the CDC with this move

CDC can then get as did Biopreparat (Soviet Unions' bioweapons organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_biological_weapons_program)) unique samples of virus that resisted Amber's natural immune system..

Anything NEW could be tested on her there in an advanced facility to see what works and what doesn't - is the going there for her to be the guinea pig, or treated as the NBC affiliated news reporter in Nebraska? (whom by the way is doing much better now that he was treated FAST, in partial from a serum from Dr. Brantly who was treated at Emory early on..) Of course she would have to give permission or what run the risk of what happened to Thomas Duncan, who gave her the infectious strain she has?

[Harley]

WHO: Ebola Response Roadmap Situation Report

From the governments of the so-called "Free-World" who are supposed to be protecting us,

What you may find interesting are the countries which are listed.

What you should find even more interesting are the countries which are not listed.


http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136508/1/roadmapsitrep15Oct2014.pdf?ua=1

View online or download HERE (http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136508/1/roadmapsitrep15Oct2014.pdf?ua=1)

[Matisse]

While headlines focus on Texas, border controls, etc etc. it seems Africa has been a bit forgotten. It seems to me incredible that Cuba (11 million population) has been the country to send the most aid to Africa to fight against ebola.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/12/cuba-leads-fights-against-ebola-africa

Cuba leads fight against Ebola in Africa as west frets about border security

The island nation has sent hundreds of health workers to help control the deadly infection while richer countries worry about their security – instead of heeding UN warnings that vastly increased resources are urgently needed.

As the official number of Ebola deaths in west Africa’s crisis topped 4,000 last week – experts say the actual figure is at least twice as high – the UN issued a stark call to arms. Even to simply slow down the rate of infection, the international humanitarian effort would have to increase massively, warned secretary-general Ban Ki-moon.

“We need a 20-fold resource mobilisation,” he said. “We need at least a 20-fold surge in assistance – mobile laboratories, vehicles, helicopters, protective equipment, trained medical personnel, and medevac capacities.”

But big hitters such as China or Brazil, or former colonial powers such France and the UK, have not been stepping up to the plate. Instead, the single biggest medical force on the Ebola frontline has been a small island: Cuba.

That a nation of 11 million people, with a GDP of $6,051 per capita, is leading the effort says much of the international response. A brigade of 165 Cuban health workers arrived in Sierra Leone last week, the first batch of a total of 461. In sharp contrast, western governments have appeared more focused on stopping the epidemic at their borders than actually stemming it in west Africa. The international effort now struggling to keep ahead of the burgeoning cases might have nipped the outbreak in the bud had it come earlier.

[Bob]

Mr. President, Obama holds a news conference to explain how things are "under control" live 5:45 pm Eastern time, USA.

He explains that he/they are monitoring supervising overseeing aggressively..

He says as SOON as somebody is diagnosed with Ebola, that a CDC swat team will be in place, running things..

They would be those in-control of the situation..

Key thing is to understand that the PROTOCOLS work, repeating that stuff used decades ago will work again.. (if they are done properly he emphasises)

This rapid response team is the solution he says, and they are reviewing every step that went right (or wrong) with Mr. Duncan.

Because this has had attention, we are going to pay attention it...

Public safety is the foremost concern. It is not like the flu it is not airborn, the only way is by direct contact by somebody showing symptoms (leaving open what showing symptoms means such as in Amber's case she was showing symptoms with a lower grade fever but traveled anyway).. (what is the magic threshold for presenting which is NOT based on data that is 15 years old? If virus has changed characteristics, it is apparent from the New England Journal of Medicine statistical evaluation, 13% of the infected ones DID NOT SHOW any fever signs)

Mr. President reminds us that he will be monitoring what is happening in Dallas.. He in an anecdotal way says he personally hugged the nurses at EMORY (who use the class 4 biosafety protocols - I would too hug a nurse who used all the class level 4 protocols and equipment in that case, but to use that "out-of-context" with those who DON'T use class 4 biosafety procedures doesn't offer a good analogy).

Mr. Obama says the situation in AFRICA needs to be invested in to deal with this problem, he called it an "investment", that $$$ thing again, but it was paraphrased as it would prevent a more serious outbreak in this country.. HE DID SAY IT IS AN OUTBREAK in this country..can't erase those words about 5:51 Eastern time.. but no doubt spin doctoring will rapidly change the subject..)

He says training, preparedness is needed NOW, not later, and please pray for the two health care workers who got sick (the two Dallas Nurses)..

He says they are gonna be properly cared for..

He says he is absolutely confident that this won't spread.

[Bob]

Frontier Airlines is Denver based.

The plane from Dallas to Cleveland according to ABC investigative reporters says that flew at least 5 more flights without especially detailed disinfection procedures. That Frontier would NOT tell reporters who the cleaning service is that they use.

Proper protocol says burn or autoclave - infected wastes.. What is the decontamination level required, what disinfectant used on aircraft, that absolutely guarantees that absorbent seats that can be touched are safe? How deep does that disinfectant penetrate and how often should it be used to guarantee safety?

Are there sampling methods to see if virus is present deep from a seat for instance?

Where Thomas Duncan stayed had couches, bedding all taken out and burned. The rest of the apartment surfaces that could be spray treated were sprayed.

Is Frontier going to strip down the seats, the carpet? What do you think? Could it be $$$ again, hope it goes away, a wing and a prayer.. (sigh)..

the plane finally is out - of - service btw

(ABC numerous reporting sources)

Quick anecdote - having had a very dear friend of mine, one who trained the Frontier pilots years ago, explain to me "changes" which were happening... he reminded me $$ was the issue, the bottom line.. he died a few years afterwards, on Lake Mead away far from any one who could help him, from a massive and sudden heart attack.. beautiful fellow, brilliant and one sharp pilot, eventually traveling upwards through the ranks, becoming head of the company's education services for pilots..


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7337/12975092554_5e7a0aca23_n.jpg

(Closeup of the tail section)

Georgia - Texas - Florida - Ohio were locations that plane flew to. Flight Aware dot Com (ABC news reporting that detail.. Also pointing out Frontier flight crews 'concerned' including that internal memos sent out were assuring crews, flight attendants, no worries, ZERO CHANCE that any person will be on ANY of their flights having been exposed Ebola because their flights do not travel two or from west Africa - that did not go over well with the employees, the news report said)

and


The Frontier Airlines Airbus A320 flew to Cleveland’s Hopkins International Airport, Hollywood International Airport near Ft Lauderdale, Florida, and Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. That’s according to FlightAware, a company tracking flight data from government and airline sources.

FlightAware reports that passenger jet with tail number N220FR arrived at Dallas Ft Worth International airport at 8:08 PM Central time. Frontier Airlines says in a statement that the flight “remained overnight at the airport having completed its flying for the day at which point the aircraft received a thorough cleaning per our normal procedures within CDC guidelines prior to returning to service the next day. It was also cleaned again in Cleveland last night.”

(Source (http://ohianews.com/10-investigates-plane-at-the-center-of-clevelands-ebola-scare-visited-three-other-airports-before-being-quarantined/))

[Roisin]

That plane, as of around 2 PM today was on the tarmac back in Cleve at Cleve. Hopkins airport being cleaned and disinfected again even though they did that after it landed in Dallas too. They showed that same plane on the local news today as it was being disinfected.

[Bob]

Another qualified doctor right in the middle of it speaks out - droplet transmission possible.


DALLAS (KRLD) — The executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons says that despite what the CDC is saying, Ebola might be transmitted by breathing.

“What we’re suggesting is that it is very dangerous to assume that one cannot ever acquire Ebola from an aerosol or from breathing,” said Dr. Jane Orient.
emphasis added

"When a patient vomits, has diarrhea, undergoes medical procedures, or even flushes the toilet, “there’s just a cloud that contains pathogen virus particles,” says Dr. Orient.

"Dr. Orient says that when an aerosol dries up, droplet nuclei remain suspended in the air for a long time. A recent research study suggests that Ebola could remain infectious in an aerosol for more than an hour.

"The droplets are “just too small” to be captured by standard medical masks, says Dr. Orient. A possible solution? Powered, air-purifying respirators for healthcare workers."

He says this contradicts CDC director Frieden's statements AND President Obama's statements (the President repeating what he was told by CDC)..

Dr. Orient's testimony is to be submitted to a CDC hearing on Thursday October 16th.

(Source (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/15/doctor-ebola-might-be-transmitted-by-air/))


"Not Airborne (in the classical bioweapons wording),
but able to be transmitted through the air in the form of droplets either wet or dried.."

[Roisin]

In Cleveland, they've got a store all over town and the burbs called Drug Mart. Just got back from there and lo and behold they now have a hand sanitizer dispenser with wipes just as you walk in the door for customers to use and the counter clerks have been ordered to use a hand sanitizer after every transaction.

[Roisin]

Another qualified doctor right in the middle of it speaks out - droplet transmission possible.


DALLAS (KRLD) — The executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons says that despite what the CDC is saying, Ebola might be transmitted by breathing.

“What we’re suggesting is that it is very dangerous to assume that one cannot ever acquire Ebola from an aerosol or from breathing,” said Dr. Jane Orient.
emphasis added

"When a patient vomits, has diarrhea, undergoes medical procedures, or even flushes the toilet, “there’s just a cloud that contains pathogen virus particles,” says Dr. Orient.

"Dr. Orient says that when an aerosol dries up, droplet nuclei remain suspended in the air for a long time. A recent research study suggests that Ebola could remain infectious in an aerosol for more than an hour.

"The droplets are “just too small” to be captured by standard medical masks, says Dr. Orient. A possible solution? Powered, air-purifying respirators for healthcare workers."

He says this contradicts CDC director Frieden's statements AND President Obama's statements (the President repeating what he was told by CDC)..

Dr. Orient's testimony is to be submitted to a CDC hearing on Thursday October 16th.

(Source (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/15/doctor-ebola-might-be-transmitted-by-air/))


"Not Airborne (in the classical bioweapons wording),
but able to be transmitted through the air in the form of droplets either wet or dried.."

Yes, it's been a play with words on the CDC and media end right from the get go wrt how they define "airborne" and what the general everyday usage of that word means by the avg. person.

Just another aspect of their ongoing disinformation campaign when it comes to facts about the Ebola virus.

[Flash]

Interesting take on this article today by Richard Evans on Henry Makow's website


Ebola Pandemic Smells Like a Hoax

The Ebola Epidemic is a hoax on the scale of 9-11 and Sandy Hook. The purpose is to frighten the masses into accepting martial law measures and to send troops to occupy West Africa. It's not Ebola that will get you. It's the vaccines.

http://www.henrymakow.com/#sthash.iRD2pUQD.dpuf

This video referred to in the article is worth a watch, especially from 4:50, with CNN & NYT's use of actors in Africa to "illustrate" the crisis.

http://youtu.be/1ZonCVRQ-2s?t=4m49s


However, AFRICOM is real. Obama is actually President of the United States, and those weren't 4000 GI JOE dolls he's been deploying to West Africa.

Something is killing people in isolated villages in Liberia, Sierra Leon, Ivory Coast, and Nigeria.

The photographic evidence we've been shown is FAKE.

That means we're not being show what's really been going down over there.

If the regular US folk would see reality of a dying victim of ebola, pissing blood from every body orifice, public histeria may become overwhelming. However, once histeria settles down, swift action would be forcefully demanded and this might be terrifying to ptb, who knows.

[Bob]

Frontier reports they are getting N220FR back to its HQ in Denver - unknown who was on board or its disposition whence at Denver at Frontier's facility. (maintenance maybe?)

Nurse Amber Vinson (patient 3 from Dallas, first being Mr. Duncan at the epicenter, Nancy Pham, first nurse) is at Emory - she walked onto the plane with help in a containment suit.

She walks off the ambulance in a containment suit. Health care workers ARE USING biosafety level 3 air filtration on their suits.

meanwhile representatives from the nurses' representatives in Texas has been saying, these nurses did not received training except for once a year.. THAT the nurses have been over-ruled by their supervisors.. (as pointed out earlier, the nurses are trying their best, but administration is lax in doing what is needed to protect them, to bring in proper equipment..)

Annual training is NOT enough.. the nurses point out, especially in a situation dealing with a different type of pathogen.. FLU is not experimented with in a grade 4 biocontaiment unit, but in a grade 2 or at best a grade 3 unit, both of which is much less precautions are taken in a level 4.

The level 4 safety procedures in Emory are there for a reason - here is the statement to explain some of the disease pathogens worked in a biosafety level 4 facility:


This level is required for work with dangerous and exotic agents that pose a high individual risk of aerosol-transmitted laboratory infections, agents which cause severe to fatal disease in humans for which vaccines or other treatments are not available, such as


Bolivian and Argentine hemorrhagic fevers,
Marburg virus,
Ebola virus,
Lassa virus,
Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, and various other hemorrhagic diseases.


This level is also used for work with agents such as smallpox that are considered dangerous enough to require the additional safety measures, regardless of vaccination availability.

When dealing with biological hazards at this level the use of a positive pressure personnel suit, with a segregated air supply is mandatory.

The entrance and exit of a level four biolab will contain multiple showers, a vacuum room, an ultraviolet light room, and other safety precautions designed to destroy all traces of the biohazard. Multiple airlocks are employed and are electronically secured to prevent both doors from opening at the same time.

All air and water service going to and coming from a biosafety level 4 (or P4) lab will undergo similar decontamination procedures to eliminate the possibility of an accidental release.

Even thinking that any hospital outside of the level 4 facilities can be setup, in a pinch, or workers trained in a pinch is really stretching common sense..

That is some of the items really concerning doctors-in-the-know to think about how they can speak out and not get canned by their hospitals where they contract. Independents most likely will continue to be the whistle-blowers to try to get the public solid informed up-to-date data.

[Bob]

ouch - nurse Amber Vinson said, she had called CDC before her fight and they cleared her..

CDC director earlier in the day said (one hand not knowing what the other is doing maybe?) Ms Vinson SHOULD NOT HAVE FLOWN..

and this according to Mr. President Obama, today during a live news conference where he mentions the infections in the US are an outbreak (not a big one but is classified as an outbreak if one is looking carefully at words being used....) is going to be the First Line of Defence to protect the country.. (the special CDC squads to go where-ever outbreaks occur and solve them)

Some kinks to iron out?

Transport in a secure jet with secure protective equipment to a class 4 is the proper method.. anything less is a stop gap placating method..

[Roisin]

You beat me to it. Just went for a google news update on Ebola and found this article:

Ebola patient had CDC OK to fly to Cleveland
WFAA-TV 8:57 p.m. EDT October 15, 2014
The nurse registered a low-grade fever of 99.5 degrees before she boarded the plane

DALLAS, Texas — The second Dallas nurse diagnosed with Ebola shouldn't have traveled on a commercial flight due to her exposure to the virus prior to her diagnosis, said Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But the CDC has now confirmed that it gave Amber Vinson permission to make a trip to Cleveland.... (and so on)

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/northeast-ohio/2014/10/15/ebola-patient-who-was-in-akron-identified/17304331/

You can bet your boots that authorities in Cleveland are hopping mad now.

I do know one thing though, whenever I have a temp. at 99.5, I feel sick.... no ambiguity there at all. I think it's this way for most people too.

[Bob]

Some of the news services are picking up on the ambiguity, or "oops".. what I know is the class 4 facility is the right way, to protect the staff, and help the patient properly with all the right equipment.. they built those things for themselves, hardly would skimp with things there as what the situation may be in "public" hospitals...

Some of my associates in Ohio are weighing in with live chat currently, one works for a FDA certification facility and to say LIVID and CDC failure is an understatement..

OK - update - the anchors and their support doctors are starting to get LIVID also about the oops.. and had mentioned the Dallas hospital has lack of transparency and fingers are being pointed across the media, back to those lapses. That awareness of the issues, seems to be a highpoint now, with a much higher level of personal compassion appearing with the anchors also in the field.. they are saying (in the field) what MUST be addressed MUST be addressed and not pushed under the carpet or the subject derailed..

ouch - NY times (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us/infamy-for-dallas-hospital-where-virus-spread.html?_r=0) saying "Infamy for Dallas Hospital Where Virus Spread"
after the agencies and authorities saying the hospital was well prepared, when it wasn't.. ouch - Nurses saying they may walk off as staff in other countries have walked off from Africa to Spain when bureaucracy has gotten in the way of proper medical procedure..

[Roisin]

It's almost criminal! Something is waaaaaay off here.... no question about that. Almost surreal. Like something out of the Keystone Cops skits.... Gross negligence and etc...

PS -- Red flags popping up all over the place. I'm not an alarmist but this whole scenario is just too hard to wrap my mind around.

How the heck did this happen? My goodness!

PS: Well, those nurses at that hospital are not Union so they have no choice but to walk off as their very lives are clearly in danger!

[Bob]

It's almost criminal! Something is waaaaaay off here.... no question about that. Almost surreal.

something out of the Keystone Cops skits.... Gross negligence and etc...

PS -- Red flags popping up all over the place. I'm not an alarmist but this whole scenario is just too hard to wrap my mind around.

How the heck did this happen? My goodness!

I'm telling you Roisin - I saw this couple years ago when I came into the ER with a sick family member, reported clearly and precisely came from a country with an active infection, it is highly contagious, and the relative sat in the cubicle same as Mr. Duncan was forced to sit - my relative for 4 hours, at times even without oxygen, the oxygen tank was empty and luckily also noticed the pulse ox was removed from the family member's finger.. they weren't even emergency monitoring !! then we were poo poo'd off even though the person was gasping for breath at full flood on the hospital O2 flow... think about that - WHY would a person with a contagious infection be poo pooed away, and family member (a qualified EMT at that) be ignored?? Suspicious? an understatement - I even reported to the police about this was murder, and there I was laughed at as well.. So how big is it really, what ever it is. irresponsiblity? stupidity, lack of care?

I can't explain it, and this thread isn't the place for the conspiracy to keep the technical information and updates flowing.. but just saying.. I SAW this happen and lost a loved one because of this type of behavior across the board. THE NURSES cared but they were told NO by the authority..

[Roisin]

It breaks my heart that you and your family experienced such hardship. I'm so sorry you all went through that but, at the end of the day, your presence here including all of the valuable information that you have been sharing with us on this forum and for that matter, the entire world via the internet has turned out to be a blessing for all of us. The fruits of your pain has illuminated us about this current epidemic in more ways than you could possible know. From the bottom of my heart, thank you, thank you, thank you for being here.

[Bob]

Thanks Roisin for the kindness - and connecting those dots..

[Roisin]

Solon closes two schools Thursday as a precaution (Solon, Ohio is an eastside suburb of Cleve.)

SOLON, Ohio -- Solon Middle School and Parkside Elementary School are closed Thursday as a precaution.

An email sent to parents by the school district said they learned a Solon Middle School staff member may have traveled aboard the same airplane, though not the same flight, as the Dallas nurse diagnosed with Ebola.

In the email, the district explains they learned about the situation late in the day. Since then, they have been working with public health officials. The closing of both schools is a willing precaution to allow both buildings to be disinfected.

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cuyahoga-county/2014/10/16/solon-school-closings/17340989/

[MorningFox]

http://i1.minus.com/iXfKwf1cZtFIl.jpg

[Matisse]

Airplane in Madrid being isolated for a posible ebola case.

http://rt.com/news/196516-madrid-ebola-passenger-paris/

An Air France plane carrying 183 passengers has been quarantined in Madrid’s Barajas Airport over a passenger showing Ebola-like symptoms. The airport has activated the emergency protocol, local media report.
According to El Mundo newspaper, the passenger felt sick, had a headache and was shivering. But he did not have a fever.

Flight AF1300 departed from Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport on Thursday morning and landed in the Spanish capital at 11:30am local time.

The aircraft has been moved to a special zone of Barajas Airport in compliance with established protocol.

The man with suspected Ebola symptoms traveled to Paris from Nigerian capital of Lagos, the paper reports.

The crew of the plane informed the airport authorities, which activated the sanitary protocol. The other passengers of the fight had disembarked "normally," Air France sources told Europa Press.

The man will be taken to Madrid's Carlos III Hospital, where he will remain in isolation while the checks are underway.

Meanwhile France will on Saturday start screening for Ebola among passengers arriving from Guinea's capital, Conakry to Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport, AP reports.

That’s the only direct flight to Paris from West African countries affected by the virus.

It has been announced that medical teams will take passengers' temperatures before they enter the terminal.

“If there is no temperature there is no risk of contagion,” Health Minister Marisol Touraine told LCI television on Thursday.

[MorningFox]

sorry wrong thread

[Bob]

“I Can No Longer Defend My Hospital”

Dallas Nurse Says Texas Health Presbyterian Unprepared for Ebola

A Dallas nurse who cared for a co-worker who contracted the Ebola virus slammed Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on the "Today" show and said she would "do anything" to avoid being treated there if she fell ill with the virus.

Numerous interview from the US "front line" health workers who have the pulse of what is happening in medical care are saying - THAT'S IT - we the people are being lied to by those who dictate how we can conduct how we care for people..

Ebola is being called, "the nurse killer", citing more-so, that 200 deaths of health care workers in Africa have happened, and that should NOT have happened if the procedures, if the equipment was proper to do the job safely..

President Obama yesterday in a late afternoon news conference said he would (and did) hug the nurses at Emory University hospital isolation unit, which is a state of the art, class 4 certified to treat CDC officials and doctors and nurses (the insiders) if and when they come down with a class 4 disease such as Marburg or Ebola.. It can also safely contain and treat smallpox should such be weaponized and used. These facilities ARE SAFE because of the EXTREME containment.. So to say sure, hug a nurse from Emory Isolation unit is absolutely fine but TOTALLY a deviation from what type of lack of containment exists in Africa, or now the US in the majority of health care services.

IF THE VIRUS was not a concern, nobody would be being sent to special isolation unit hospitals using class 3 (in the minimum, controlled breathing apparatus), or class 4 isolated external air supplied to a totally contained air-tight suit...

Thomas Duncan walked into a hospital that the nation was told was SECURE AND ABLE to deal with - the nurses have said the country has been lied to..

That is the bottom line..

A class 4 biohazard infectious individual was in essence laughed at by the hospital ER, sent home with a fever reducer pill and an anti-biotic.. (Criminal and insane) Irresponsibility has no place in the first line of defence for a nation, the hospital emergency room.. and the care givers in Africa, or Spain, or Germany or England must not be lied to, nor shorted on proper training, and proper class 4 equipment - in the minimum class-3 procedures constantly would be better than the class -1 and class -2 or NO protection except for some gloves...

Showing the differences...

the first method as was how Thomas Duncan was first treated is this method - this lack of proper protection (only some lightweight gloves) is what contributes to wildfire outbreaks happening, in the bush affected families don't even have the gloves


http://acidcow.com/pics/20140901/ebola_beats_finda_02.jpg


This second method is the way the CDC people treat themselves for safety, and how they would treat one of the "insiders", their own, who comes in sick with a class 4 pathogen, such as Ebola or Marburg (or even smallpox)..


http://www.bepast.org/docs/photos/Ebola/CDC_biosafety_suit.jpg




http://nbcchi.com/CVrQq0d has the nurse's interview

[sheme]

On the uk "Today" programme some very pointed remarks were made by one interviewer hinting at the incompetence of the virus controllers and how unbelievable and farcical the treatment of infected staff and patients was, and at the current rate of spread it was one death and two infections, even Africa is doing better than that, in short- a statistical disaster for America.

Obama say's they will create a "Rapid Response Team" they will be at the site of infection within 24hours. 24 hours is not Rapid in my opinion.

They must be finding it hard to spread the infection without seeming to be too obvious. Perhaps that's what the rapid response team is for?

[Bob]

Solon closes two schools Thursday as a precaution (Solon, Ohio is an eastside suburb of Cleve.)

SOLON, Ohio -- Solon Middle School and Parkside Elementary School are closed Thursday as a precaution.

An email sent to parents by the school district said they learned a Solon Middle School staff member may have traveled aboard the same airplane, though not the same flight, as the Dallas nurse diagnosed with Ebola.

In the email, the district explains they learned about the situation late in the day. Since then, they have been working with public health officials. The closing of both schools is a willing precaution to allow both buildings to be disinfected.

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cuyahoga-county/2014/10/16/solon-school-closings/17340989/

Some schools in Texas have also closed, in their words, to disinfect the school. Probably a bit overkill there, unless they feel the student(s) on the Frontier plane somehow came in close contact with Nurse Amber.

Closing schools was one of the steps that NIGERIA used during their outbreak, to ER on the side of caution, having now said they completely allowed the infection to burn (people either died or recovered) itself out. QUARANTINE in other words, isolate all those potentially exposed, and er on the side of caution.. All historical reports have said quarantine is the first line of stopping an outbreak.. China during their bird infection, KILLED all the birds, massive farms of birds killed, bodies burned. ie burn it out..

update:


The superintendent of the Belton Independent School District, south of Waco, said that a student at Sparta Elementary School and a student at North Belton Middle School were on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 on Monday.

The superintendent, Susan Kincannon, said in a statement that officials had decided to shut the two schools plus a third, the Belton Early Childhood School, so they could thoroughly clean and disinfect the schools and the buses that served them this week.

The two students were on the flight on Monday and then attended classes on Tuesday and Wednesday, the statement said. Though state and local health officials had cleared the children to return to school, their parents decided to keep them home for 21 days, the maximum incubation period of the virus.

[Cidersomerset]

You may have some of these articles Bob , but since I just posted them
on another thread they are on my curser and your thread has popped up ..LOL


We all knew something big is on the way is it Ebola ???

Two recent threads and a Ebola articles, the dots are connecting....

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The Pentagon’s ‘Operation Dark Winter’: June 2001 Bioterror Exercise Foreshadowed 9/11 and Anthrax Attacks


Another article about drills leading up to 9/11, I had not heard of this before.,
or if I have , I've forgotten.......

Drills do happen and are an important part of keeping emergency services up
to date , but a lot of these drills and wargames are already very suspect
as cover for real psyops attacks and heres another one....

NOTE...quote from below how blatant are these psyops....

Quote Iraq might have provided the technology behind the attacks to terrorist groups
based in Afghanistan.


Operation Dark Winter and The Hollywood Effect

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Read More...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75935-The-Pentagon--s---Operation-Dark-Winter---June-2001-Bioterror-Exercise-Foreshadowed-9-11-and-Anthrax-Attacks&p=889466#post889466


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Dick Cheney warns next terror attack on U.S. will be ‘far deadlier’ than September 11

new Tuesday 14th October 2014 at 11:37 By david-icke

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Cheney: Next Attack On Us Will Dwarf 9/11

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Read More....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75957-Very-Dangerous-Scary-Man-Dick-Cheney-Says-next-attack-on-US-will-be-far-deadlier-than-9-11.......&p=888513#post888513






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CDC Pushes Preparedness For Zombies Over Ebola

Thursday 16th October 2014 at 10:44 By david-icke


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‘The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention placed more emphasis on a “zombie preparedness”
campaign than preparations for Ebola despite a $6.6 billion yearly budget.

A simple Google search on the CDC web site reveals more search results for “zombie preparedness”
(253 results) than “Ebola preparedness” (178 results), highlighting the misplaced priorities of the
health agency which admitted Tuesday it did little to contain Ebola in Dallas, Texas.

The CDC’s “zombie preparedness” documents stem from a public awareness campaign the agency
launched in 2011 to take advantage of the popularity of the TV show The Walking Dead.’

Read more: CDC Pushes Preparedness For Zombies Over Ebola

http://www.prisonplanet.com/cdc-pushes-preparedness-for-zombies-over-ebola.html

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It Begins: HazMat-Wearing Passenger Spotted At Airport

Thursday 16th October 2014 at 10:42 By david-icke


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‘Last week we hinted at what was to come as Ebola fears spread across America. Today, we
get confirmation. As The Daily Caller reports, one passenger at Dulles International Airport
outside Washington, D.C. is apparently not taking any chances.

A female passenger dressed in a hazmat suit – complete with a full body gown, mask and
gloves – was spotted Wednesday waiting for a flight at the airport.’

Read more: It Begins: HazMat-Wearing Passenger Spotted At Airport


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/it-begins-hazmat-wearing-passenger-spotted-airport

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Viral Seige: Ebola Fear Campaign & Cover-Up Masks Truth About Outbreak

Thursday 16th October 2014 at 10:38 By david-icke

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‘We’ve been told that the ongoing Ebola crisis in West Africa has killed several thousand
people in recent months. According to the World Health Organization’s (WHO) numbers,
the virus has claimed well over a thousand more lives (4,493) then the amount that are
said to have perished in the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Currently, there are 8,997 suspected cases, with most being reported in the three
worst-affected countries, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. The incubation period for
the deadly Ebola virus is said to be anywhere from two to 21 days.

The virus has reportedly made its way to parts of Europe and the United States with new
cases being announced every week now.’

Read more: Viral Seige: Ebola Fear Campaign & Cover-Up Masks Truth About Outbreak

http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/10/15/viral-siege-ebola-fear-campaign-cover-up-masks-truth-about-outbreak/

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‘There Was No Protocol’: Dallas Nurses’ Statement Is a Horrifying Timeline of Ebola Fail

Thursday 16th October 2014 at 10:35 By david-icke


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‘In the days following Ebola Patient Zero Thomas Duncan’s positive test results, Dr. Tom
Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reassured America
with this line over and over and over on every mainstream media outlet that would let him.

To read this story (and any other stories I write about this topic from here on out) is to
be forced to assume that we can trust what we’re being told in our news media and by
our government officials — not something I’ve been very good at historically, and
something I’m even worse at these days.

But let’s play along.’

Read more: 'There Was No Protocol': Dallas Nurses’ Statement Is a Horrifying Timeline of Ebola Fail


http://www.thedailysheeple.com/there-was-no-protocol-dallas-nurses-statement-is-a-horrifying-timeline-of-ebola-fail_102014

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Deconstructing the Ebola Agenda

Thursday 16th October 2014 at 10:31 By david-icke

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‘It looks like we’re going to be saddled with this ebola roll-out for a while. It seems to be working
according to plan as the public jumps on the fear bandwagon and all kinds of media reports are
taken at face value regarding what’s going on. A very easy environment to manipulate public
sentiment, emotions and responses which is their favorite milieu.

The old problem – reaction – solution game.

I don’t like dwelling on this subject but it is front and center now and we are still in the process
of deconstructing it all which is important to do. True knowledge is empowering, especially in
the face of a matrix of deceit that’s trying to tighten its web of control to new levels right now.’

Read more: Deconstructing the Ebola Agenda

http://www.zengardner.com/deconstructing-ebola-agenda/


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The ‘Ebola Plane’ Made Five More Flights Before It Was Grounded

Thursday 16th October 2014 at 10:29 By david-icke


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‘The news came out this morning that the second American nurse diagnosed with Ebola flew
on a plane with 132 other passengers from Cleveland, Ohio to Dallas, Texas. Amber Vinson
had a low-grade fever when she boarded the plane, and was admitted to Texas Presbyterian
Hospital just hours after disembarking.

The latest horror?

Not only were 132 people who flew with Vinson exposed to Ebola.

In the time it took the CDC to notify Frontier Airlines of the issue, 5 more flights were made.’

Read more: The 'Ebola Plane' Made Five More Flights Before It Was Grounded

http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/the-ebola-plane-made-five-more-flights-before-it-was-grounded-10152014


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[Cidersomerset]

Human crisis: ‘Ebola will eventually infect & kill more people’


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Published on 15 Oct 2014


Members of the UN Security Council issued a statement saying that the international response
to Ebola has so far failed – and wasn't taken seriously enough at an early stage. RT talks to
Dr. Joshua Mugele, who volunteered at a Liberian hospital which accommodated an Ebola patient.

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Going viral: Ebola 60-day warning spooks leaking US system

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Published on 15 Oct 2014


Ebola Emergency mission chief says the steps taken by countries to counter the
virus are not nearly enough to beat the disease.

Even in the US, with its modern healthcare system, fears of a widespread outbreak
are growing - as RT's Marina Portnaya reports.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air




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Ebola survival kits sales spike in US amid panic outbreak

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Published on 16 Oct 2014

Meanwhile in the US, a third Ebola sufferer has been transferred to a secure
bio-containment unit. And as our US correspondent Marina Portnaya reports, panic is spreading.

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16 October 2014 Last updated at 18:46

Ebola crisis: WHO focuses on preventing regional spread


vid on link....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29648598

The World Health Organization is to "ramp up" efforts to prevent Ebola spreading
beyond the three countries most affected by the deadly virus.

Fifteen African countries are being prioritised, top WHO official Isabelle Nuttall told
a Geneva news conference.

They will receive more help in areas including prevention and protection.

US public health officials are being questioned at a congressional hearing on
perceived failings in how the US has dealt with cases.

'Spike'

The transmission of the Ebola virus remains intense in Liberia, Sierra Leone and
Guinea, the WHO's Dr Nuttall said.

There was a "spike" in the Guinean capital, Conakry, said Dr Nuttall, and "intense
transmission" in Freetown, the capital of Sierra Leone.

In the Liberian capital, Monrovia, she spoke of "significant underreporting" and
problems with data-gathering making it hard to reach firm conclusions. But there
was a drop in the number of cases in Lofa district.

vid on link....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29648598
Farmers in Sierra Leone have deserted their land during the Ebola outbreak

Overall, cases were doubling every four weeks, said Dr Nuttall, the WHO's Director
of Global Capacities Alerts and Response, and the death toll was expected to go
above 4,500 this week.

Countries in the region must be prepared, she said, listing Benin, Burkina Faso,
Cameroon, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of Congo, Gambia,
Ghana, Mauritania, Nigeria, South Sudan, and Togo.

She highlighted four nations directly bordering the worst affected area - Ivory
Coast, Guinea Bissau, Mali and Senegal.

"We will ramp up our support to the countries. We will work with them on a plan.
But a plan needs to be changed into action."

Action will include:

Rapid response teams
Engaging at community level
Training in infection prevention and protection
Having laboratories in place
Earlier, the WHO said the introduction of Ebola in the US and elsewhere was a
matter of concern, but a major outbreak was unlikely given the strength of health systems in the West.

In another development, the European Union is to examine whether exit screening
at West African airports is effective.


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EU health ministers also agreed to try to co-ordinate measures taken at EU
airports. Some countries, such as the UK, have introduced screening.

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Texas nurse

In the United States, questions are being asked about why two nurses who treated
an Ebola patient from Africa have themselves become infected.

Thomas Eric Duncan died at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital after arriving in
the US from Liberia.

Amber Vinson -undated photo Amber Vinson was not supposed to travel on an
aeroplane, health officials said Nurses Nina Pham and Amber Vinson both
contracted Ebola after treating him.

Both wore face shields, hazardous materials suits and protective footwear as they
drew blood and dealt with Mr Duncan's body fluids and it remains unclear how they
were infected, officials say.

Amber Vinson was allowed to take a commercial flight after treating him and
officials have been contacting the 132 people who flew with her.

Daniel Varga, the chief clinical officer for the company that runs the Texas hospital,
told the congressional hearing "we are deeply sorry" for the "mistakes made" in the
way Mr Duncan's case was handled.

Opening the hearing, Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and
Investigations Tim Murphy accused the Centers for Disease Control of "changing
course" on measures that would have strengthened quarantining.

He also cast doubt on airport screening, saying those with a fever could avoid it.

But in his opening statement, Centers for Disease Control Director Tom Frieden said
everything was being done to prevent transmission of Ebola.

"There are no shortcuts. Everyone has to do their part. We are there to support. We
are there with world-class expertise to protect Americans."

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New US Ebola control measures

A "site manager" will supervise how workers at the Texas Health Presbyterian
Hospital put on and take off protective clothing
Two nurses from Emory University Hospital in Atlanta will offer "enhanced training"
in Dallas
An immediate response team will travel to the site of any future Ebola diagnoses to
hit the ground "within hours"
New guidelines for testing at hospitals throughout the US, with special emphasis on
asking questions about travel history
Could it spread around US?

Confusing death figures

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In other developments on Thursday:

Another Spanish healthcare worker, who came into contact with a nurse already
infected, is being tested for the virus
An Air France passenger with a high fever, reportedly from Nigeria, is to be
examined in hospital for Ebola symptoms after arriving in Madrid from Paris
A patient with "Ebola-like" symptoms is being monitored in the US state of
Connecticut
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How not to catch Ebola:

Avoid direct contact with sick patients as the virus is spread through contaminated body fluids
Wear goggles to protect eyes
Clothing and clinical waste should be incinerated and any medical equipment that
needs to be kept should be decontaminated
People who recover from Ebola should abstain from sex or use condoms for three
months
Ebola basics: What you need to know

How Ebola attacks

Ebola: Mapping the outbreak

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[Bob]

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Summary from previous page
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon/page32

Cleveland and Dallas schools shut down and some parents are doing the 21 day quarantine

A key doctor from Dallas testifying before committee with CDC saying virus particles CAN remain in the air (droplet form, up to an hour and bypass hospital masks)

The second nurse infected from Thomas Duncan who died is transferred out of the sloppy hospital and moved to Emory in Atlanta - Amber says she told them she had a low grade fever (CDC) said no problem go fly, knowing she was one who worked on Duncan and could be at risk.

Differences between no protection and full protection

Frontier Airlines says in a memo, no worries, we will never transport a person with ebola cause we don't connect to west africa..

UK News saying, er, poor batting average US - 1 death two infected..

Exposed neck - Dallas


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[Bob]

Getting the FIRST NURSE Nancy Pham out of DALLAS 'hospital'


http://www.wbtw.com/story/26804546/1st-dallas-nurse-with-ebola-to-be-sent-to-maryland and
http://www.wncn.com/story/26800165/cdc-nih-officials-testifying-about-ebola-before-congress


DALLAS (AP) - The first Dallas nurse to have contracted Ebola after treating an infected Liberian man is scheduled to be moved to a specialized medical facility in Maryland.

Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins says 26-year-old Nina Pham will be taken Thursday from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas to the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland.

The NIH facility has one of four biocontainment units in the United States. Texas Health officials said Wednesday that Pham was in good condition and it wasn't immediately clear why she's being moved.

[Bob]

Fox news live, of all groups, reporting that Nurse Amber actually DID HAVE SYMPTOMS in Ohio, that she was sick and couldn't attend some wedding preparations.. That is presenting..

So she flew back on that public Frontier Jet, then, while sick and apparently she let folks know in Ohio that she was sick and couldn't attend the wedding preps, she knew she was 'presenting'..

DID she take her temperature BEFORE flying back to DALLAS? Will that question be answered?

She says she did have a temperature, a LOW GRADE FEVER when she left DALLAS for Ohio, getting an ALL CLEAR to fly by CDC. One would assume a nurse knows what a fever temp is or isn't.

N220FR Frontier Airlines Airbus A320-214(WL)


(eer.. oops?)



Update from NBC is saying this:


Vinson visited a "retail establishment," (in Ohio) which the owners closed on Thursday while health sleuths try to figure out if it posed any risk to the public.

Authorities also tracked down the five friends she saw at that time and they have agreed to stay home until they get the all-clear.

Two other family members in Ohio are self-monitoring at home, and Vinson's mother is under supervision in Dallas, where she flew to be with her daughter.

Found this on "The Conservative Tree House" (source (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/10/15/details-of-second-ebola-nurse-released-29-year-old-amber-vinson-travelled-via-plane-two-days-ago/))

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/CEC698AC0B1131765599501242368_2ad60ecc362.5.1.10102111830695733029.mp4 - an interesting <15 second statement..

meanwhile
Dallas officials saying, er.. HOW about we look at declaring a disaster.. What that will do is allow Federal Funds to get to the community, how fast it is unknown.. (look at Hurricane Sandy, or Hurricane Katrina how long funds took to get there..) FEMA could be activated during a disaster.. Does DALLAS want FEMA involved, or are they noting something public is not being told?

[Bob]

MADRID, Oct 16 (Reuters) - Spanish authorities reported four new patients with suspected Ebola symptoms on Thursday,

including a feverish passenger who started shaking on an Air France flight to Madrid and
a Spanish priest who had recently been in Liberia.

Three of the cases were in the capital and the fourth in the Canary Islands,

Health source said two other people were admitted to hospital for precautionary monitoring.

The priest, who arrived in Spain on Oct.11, was being taken to hospital after developing a fever,
one of the symptoms of the disease, the Spanish government's Ebola committee said.

He was from the same religious order as two other Spanish priests who died in Madrid in recent weeks
after contracting the deadly virus in West Africa, one in Liberia and one in Sierra Leone, they said.

Spain has been on high alert for Ebola after a nurse who cared for the two deceased priests in Madrid,
Teresa Romero, became the first person outside Africa to become infected in the current outbreak.

Her case prompted recriminations over how prepared the country was to deal with the disease.


The rest of the article is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-2795809/Suspected-Ebola-case-taken-Air-France-flight-Madrid.html

[Bob]

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NIH Maryland - Nancy Pham, from Dallas will be treated further here.

http://www.nih.gov/about/visitor/


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[Roisin]

Tom Frieden Admits Officials Don't Know How Ebola Transmission Occurred

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden admitted to a House panel on Thursday that officials still don’t know exactly how two nurses contracted Ebola from Thomas Eric Duncan, the first man to be diagnosed with the virus in the U.S."

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They know how they contacted it.

[Bob]

Tom Frieden Admits Officials Don't Know How Ebola Transmission Occurred

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden admitted to a House panel on Thursday that officials still don’t know exactly how two nurses contracted Ebola from Thomas Eric Duncan, the first man to be diagnosed with the virus in the U.S."

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They know how they contacted it.

There has been a little bit of public mention that National Guard may be asked to build special treatment centers designed for Ebola.. (Liberia)

The FEMA stuff comes to mind.. for local disaster "management" -

But, there was mention of an Ebola Czar - similar to the Energy Czar to be the "oversight"..

NIH reports this: (http://www.nih.gov/news/health/oct2014/od-16.htm)


Later today, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Clinical Center expects to admit the first nurse who contracted the Ebola virus at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital while providing patient care to the index patient who died of Ebola. The nurse is being admitted to the Special Clinical Studies Unit of the NIH Clinical Center at the request of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. She will receive state-of-the-art care in this high-level containment facility, which is one of a small number of such facilities in the United States.

The NIH Clinical Center’s Special Clinical Studies Unit is specifically designed to provide high-level isolation capabilities and is staffed by infectious diseases and critical care specialists. The unit staff is trained in strict infection control practices optimized to prevent spread of potentially transmissible agents such as Ebola. No additional details about the patient are being shared at this time.

NIH is taking every precaution to ensure the safety of our patients, NIH staff, and the public.

About the National Institutes of Health (NIH): NIH, the nation's medical research agency, includes 27 Institutes and Centers and is a component of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

NIH is the primary federal agency conducting and supporting basic, clinical, and translational medical research, and is investigating the causes, treatments, and cures for both common and rare diseases.

Executive Order: National Guard to Liberia? - http://eyesopenreport.com/executive-order-national-guard-to-liberia/

"The sources said that eight engineers and logistical specialists from the Guard, both active-duty and reservists, would probably be included in the first deployment.

"They are expected to help build 17 Ebola treatment centers, with 100 beds apiece. The sources said that no decision had been made.

"Defense Department officials told NBC that the executive order is necessary to ‘speed the deployments, and would allow the president to send additional forces as needed’."

{ Thought joining the National Guard was a safe move? (hmmm) }

[Rollo]

In Russia existed labs called Biopreparat established in 1973 as a "civilian" continuation of earlier Soviet bio-warfare programs.

Biopreparat was a system of 18, nominally civilian, research laboratories and centers scattered chiefly around European Russia, in which a small army of scientists and technicians developed biological weapons such as anthrax, Ebola, Marburg virus, plague, Q fever, Junin virus, glanders, and smallpox.

Probably during the soviet union viruses like Ebola were really bio-weapons created to fight the enemy but what we see in the MSM today is totally different scenario.

[Bob]

Why Nebraska

Back during the 9/11 days, a Doctor in Nebraska says, we better have a way to deal with biological disasters so he sets out to design a Class-4 level facility - eventually to have his special wing called: "Maurer’s Folly," to sleight Harold Maurer, former chancellor of the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

The facility was designed to handle up to 10 patients infected with Ebola, or Marburg, or Smallpox - and was designed not for CDC personnel, but for the general public..

10 at a time is better than 2 or 3 at a time that the other CDC facilities are set to handle, so if one want's to get access to a public facility that can handle the class-4 infections, The University of Nebraska Medical Center is where one would want to go..

Jane M. Orient, M.D. had been called to report to special committee and help to enlighten people on the Hill about the real story behind Ebola, the droplet transfer potential and to remind officials hospitals around the country are un-prepared to deal with Ebola pathogens.

read more on the Nebraska facility here - http://www.unl.edu/ucomm/ucomm/2000/0900/092100anews.html


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[Bob]

Akron Ohio - the commercial shop where Nurse Amber visited

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2014/10/akron_bridal_store_closed_afte.html


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a man in a suit exited only to say that the store was closed and that Vinson had visited over the weekend.

The man said Vinson, 29, who was in Akron visiting family last weekend, was looking for bridesmaid dresses at the store. He did not know when the store might reopen.

Cameras from Channel 5 and the Akron Beacon Journal were allowed into the store, while other media were left outside.

meanwhile

news sources reporting officials are feeling that nurse Amber Vinson when she traveled TO Cleveland was ill.. Passengers who were on the flight from Dallas to Cleveland are being asked now to report, if they exhibit any symptoms.. The person sitting next to nurse Amber was told to stay home, self quarantine.. take temp twice a day..

CDC insists that they within an older report based on ONE STUDY about surface contamination, that they are using as their "guidance to hospitals" explaining that Ebola is not really a concern, manageable... reading it one can see why hospitals had not been paying attention - "lack of updated current information and studies.." NIH parrots the CDC data.

reports: http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/infection-prevention-and-control-recommendations.html

and

http://www.nih.gov/health/ebola.htm#/121230


In the only study to assess contamination of the patient care environment during an outbreak, virus was not detected in any of 33 samples collected from sites that were not visibly bloody. However, virus was detected on a blood-stained glove and bloody intravenous insertion site.3 There is no epidemiologic evidence of Ebolavirus transmission via either the environment or fomites that could become contaminated during patient care (e.g., bed rails, door knobs, laundry). However, given the apparent low infectious dose, potential of high virus titers in the blood of ill patients, and disease severity, higher levels of precaution are warranted to reduce the potential risk posed by contaminated surfaces in the patient care environment.

and

http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/2007IP/2007ip_part2.html#e

this below from that document, is a big geek-ese procedural snowjob, but pay attention to the TESTING using RSV (respiratory syncytial virus (http://www.cdc.gov/rsv/)), which is NOTHING LIKE EBOLA; they describe below using face shields for RSV, not Ebola..

For EBOLA they say WORK IN A CLASS-IV (total body shield and "shop" air, from the facility, not open masks, not open shields) (this was cited earlier in this thread from their own training manual illustrating the differences between class 1-4 biosafety facility and standards..)


II.E.3.b. Goggles, face shields
Guidance on eye protection for infection control has been published 759. The eye protection chosen for specific work situations (e.g., goggles or face shield) depends upon the circumstances of exposure, other PPE used, and personal vision needs. Personal eyeglasses and contact lenses are NOT considered adequate eye protection (www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/eye/eye-infectious.html). NIOSH states that, eye protection must be comfortable, allow for sufficient peripheral vision, and must be adjustable to ensure a secure fit. It may be necessary to provide several different types, styles, and sizes of protective equipment.

Indirectly-vented goggles with a manufacturer's anti-fog coating may provide the most reliable practical eye protection from splashes, sprays, and respiratory droplets from multiple angles. Newer styles of goggles may provide better indirect airflow properties to reduce fogging, as well as better peripheral vision and more size options for fitting goggles to different workers. Many styles of goggles fit adequately over prescription glasses with minimal gaps. While effective as eye protection, goggles do not provide splash or spray protection to other parts of the face.

The role of goggles, in addition to a mask, in preventing exposure to infectious agents transmitted via respiratory droplets has been studied only for RSV.

Reports published in the mid-1980s demonstrated that eye protection reduced occupational transmission of RSV 760, 761. Whether this was due to preventing hand-eye contact or respiratory droplet-eye contact has not been determined.

However, subsequent studies demonstrated that RSV transmission is effectively prevented by adherence to Standard plus Contact Precautions and that for this virus routine use of goggles is not necessary 24, 116, 117, 684, 762.

It is important to remind healthcare personnel that even if Droplet Precautions are not recommended for a specific respiratory tract pathogen, protection for the eyes, nose and mouth by using a mask and goggles, or face shield alone, is necessary when it is likely that there will be a splash or spray of any respiratory secretions or other body fluids as defined in Standard Precautions Disposable or non-disposable face shields may be used as an alternative to goggles 759. As compared with goggles, a face shield can provide protection to other facial areas in addition to the eyes.

Face shields extending from chin to crown provide better face and eye protection from splashes and sprays; face shields that wrap around the sides may reduce splashes around the edge of the shield.

Removal of a face shield, goggles and mask can be performed safely after gloves have been removed, and hand hygiene performed.

The ties, ear pieces and/or headband used to secure the equipment to the head are considered "clean" and therefore safe to touch with bare hands. The front of a mask, goggles and face shield are considered contaminated (Figure).

You can see why the Nurses are upset AND why this level of DATA being circulated to hospitals around the world by CDC is compromising health care workers - IT IS INSANE to use RSV as the comparison data for dealing with EBOLA..

THIS type of mis-information is what is being said, nothing to worry about, eh?.. This instructional data, SAFETY DATA, deals with the wrong virus.. RSV was used as the example to create "alleged safety" standards to teach and inform health care workers, and the hospitals, how to use the recommended protection equipment..

REMEMBER CDC says to in-house researchers, CLASS-IV (4) procedures and equipment, nothing less is safe..

http://www.cdc.gov/HAI/settings/outpatient/basic-infection-control-prevention-plan-2011/transmission-based-precautions.html


ONE more example of infection control INSANITY in the CDC document - look at this logic..



Removal of a face shield, goggles and mask can be performed safely after gloves have been removed , and hand hygiene performed.

The face shield has been splashed with Ebola.. they say take your gloves off, then remove your shield.. NOW Homer Simpson would know better... (dohh...) and now what is on your hands when you contact the face shield because your gloves are off?

Lastly, let's look at the goggles (shield) used in Africa and quite possibly in clinics and/or hospitals because this is considered the "EBOLA SUIT" - pay attention to the STRAPS that CDC says is clean..


The ties, ear pieces and/or headband used to secure the equipment to the head are considered "clean" and therefore safe to touch with bare hands.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vweLgR6YvFc/U9yNcddUm8I/AAAAAAAAASU/K6kaZNhvSnk/s1600/Ebola.jpg

and below (reports from AP & ABC) notice the exposed neck, and the strap on the mask is exposed.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/14/1413299828019_wps_5_A_patient_transported_fro.jpg

and with Mr. Duncan -


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/15/1413377557003_Image_galleryImage__Nurses_are_not_protected.JPG

Shockingly, some supervisors reportedly told nurses that they didn't need protective masks at all

Read more on the face shield scandal or no masks: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2792457/Ebola-patient-cared-70-hospital-staffers.html (Airborne-Gate Scandal)

Proper suit (example below) still needs a CHEMICAL disinfectant wash-down after use and before opening -


http://www.wolfhazmat.de/bio/Biosafety19_02.jpg

[Bob]

And the "Ebola Czar" that we predicted the other day has now been put into place.

A person who had been near one of the Texas Dallas medicos treating Mr. Dunan, who should have not been on public transport, has now traveled on a cruise boat, outside of Belize - in voluntary quarantine - CDC says, the likelihood is next to nil that there is any infection of ebola present.


“Confirmed with representatives of the Ministry of Health (MOH) that they have indeed received a report that there is at least one passenger on board the cruise ship, Carnival Magic, showing symptoms similar to that of the Ebola virus.

According to the report made to MOH, the person exhibiting the symptoms did not come ashore today.

The ship is reportedly carrying 3652 passengers and a total population of 4633 persons.

“The Carnival Magic departed from Galveston Texas on Sunday, October 12 arrived in Mahogany Bay, Honduras on Wednesday October 15 and arrived in Belize, Thursday October 16.


This is how the local news in Belize reported what was transpiring - (this will be looked into for more data as it transpires)..


Reports tonight are that two individuals possibly infected with the Ebola virus are in Belizean waters.

Local TV station Channel 7 monitored in the capital City Of Belmopan tonight, reported having credible reports that a couple from a Texas-based cruise ship presently anchored off Belize City, is on a ship tender, unable to return to the cruise ship, while being refused entry to Belize City to catch an air ambulance awaiting at the International Airport to take them to the their country of origin, the U.S.A.

The television station in its broadcast tonight said Belize health authorities contacted tonight have so far refused to deny or confirm the report. (see their comments in the above quote)

The patient exhibiting Ebola symptoms has been confirmed to be a nurse at a Dallas hospital traveling with her husband.

The government of Belize took a strong stand saying NO-ONE suspected of having Ebola will be allowed on their shores..

"In a press conference held last weak, Belize’s Ministry of Health stated that in the event of an outbreak of Ebola in Belize, no patient would be allowed into the commercial capital Belize City, where most of the Belize government cabinet officials reside.

"The MOH stated that the government hospital, the Karl Heuesner Memorial Hospital has but one Intensive Care Unit and they would not allow this to be overrun with Ebola patients. Belize is a a very poor country on the Yucatan Peninsula that depends to a large extent on tourism and grants from Venezuela for its foreign exchange income. Belize City is currently the main port of call for cruise ships."

(Source local news stations, Belize)

Another source, the Washington Post, 02:30 am local says this:


The Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital employee and a partner boarded the ship Oct. 12 in Galveston, Tex., before the CDC updated the requirement for active monitoring, the State Department said in a statement. Although the worker is healthy, the U.S. government is working with the cruise line to get the ship back to America “out of an abundance of caution.”

The employee, who has not been named, did not come into direct contact with Duncan, the first patient diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. However, he or she may have been exposed to his clinical specimens, the State Department said.

This is how another news source (NBC) a couple hours ago have obtained a little more data.. some "information" sources are saying supervisor, some saying a nurse, some saying just a "lab technician" - showing how confusing obtaining information when there is a clampdown apparently in-place, about receiving details.. (new policy from the Czar?)


A Texas hospital lab supervisor who may have handled fluid samples from Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan is on a Carnival cruise ship in the Caribbean and has been quarantined on board, officials said Friday.

The Texas Health Presbyterian hospital employee, who set sail from Galveston on Oct. 12, did not have "direct contact" with Duncan and “has not had a fever or demonstrated any symptoms of illness,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

Two nurses at the hospital, where Duncan died Oct. 8, have been infected by the virus - including one whose travel on a commercial flight to Cleveland prompted concerns over authorities’ handling of the outbreak in the United States.

The Carnival Magic was being held off the coast of Belize Friday until the lab worker could be removed and taken back to the U.S.

"At this time, the guest remains in isolation on board the ship and is not deemed to be a risk to any guests or crew," Carnival said in a statement.

"It is important to reiterate that the individual has no symptoms and has been isolated in an extreme abundance of caution." The Belize Government confirmed it was in touch with U.S. authorities.

Psaki's statement noted that the worker had set sea before the Center for Disease Control stepped up its monitoring program.

"It has been 19 days since the passenger may have processed the since-deceased patient’s fluid samples,” the statement said.

So if this person is not sick in one report, sick in another report, quarantined in another report, stuck on a tender boat in another report, being transported back to the US, being kept onboard the Carnival ship in another report - - - what is being sent across the wires currently - this type of behavior has appeared within 10 hours of the new Ebola Czar being placed in power to "oversee" it all..

Apparently their 'solution' is to MUDDY THE WATERS to cause the WORLD to look at discrediting any real information sources, 'cept "theirs".

Watch for this type of behaviour ramping up globally now.

[Hervé]

See me now... now you don't...

Ebola scare: Man dies on trans-Atlantic flight to JFK after vomiting (http://rt.com/usa/196696-ebola-newyork-vomiting-plane/)

Published time: October 17, 2014 05:11
Edited time: October 17, 2014 06:42
Get short URL (http://rt.com/usa/196696-ebola-newyork-vomiting-plane/)


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People make their way at the international arrival terminal at JFK airport in New York. (Reuters/Eduardo Munoz)



A male passenger who died after vomiting on a trans-Atlantic flight from Nigeria to New York sparked panic he could be carrying the Ebola virus. However, initial tests on the 63-year-old man show that he tested negative to the virus.

The man had boarded a flight at Lagos Airport in Nigeria, which was bound for New York’s John F. Kennedy Airport. However, once airborne, the man complained of vomiting during the flight and was sick in his seat. He died sometime before the plane landed at JFK, leaving around 150 passengers worried as to why he had passed away.

Upon the plane's arrival at the terminal at around 6am local time, the door was left open connecting the plane to the airport building, “which a lot of the first responders found alarming,” the source added, which was reported by the New York Post. Medical officials at the scene conducted a cursory exam and alleviated fears that the Ebola virus was present, according to a local police source.

However, Republican Congressman Peter King was so alarmed at lack of scrutiny within the airport for dealing with a potential Ebola case, he wrote a letter to the Federal Department of Homeland Security, demanding that airport officials should receive better training and there should be much tougher protocols in place for dealing with possible cases of the virus.


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A passenger wears a mask as he exits JFK International Airport in New York. (Reuters/Eduardo Munoz)


King added that personnel from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) boarded the plane after it had landed to examine the body of the passenger, however, he called the whole process “alarming.”

“It was what I was told a cursory examination. The Port Authority cops and personnel from Customs and Border Protection were there, and they were told there was no danger because the person did not have Ebola,” King said, according to the New York Post.

“But their concern was, how could you tell so quickly? And what adds to the concern is how wrong the CDC has been over the past few weeks,” King added.

Screenings for the Ebola virus have been in place at JFK and other airports around the United States since October 11, with travelers arriving from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone - where the virus is most prevalent - being targeted.

Full article: http://rt.com/usa/196696-ebola-newyork-vomiting-plane/

[Bob]

No Medical Training - No experience in Health oversight, but he's the Savior (http://godsjester.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/lamb-that-was_slain.jpg)..

Klain is a former chief of staff to both Vice President Joe Biden and former Vice President Al Gore. He left the vice president's office in 2011.

He is now the president of Case Holdings and serves as the general counsel for Revolution, an investment organization.

Obama signaled his openness to appointing an Ebola "czar" Thursday night, telling reporters that it "may be appropriate" to elevate an additional person to coordinate the U.S. response.

Klain will report directly to White House National Security Advisor Susan Rice and the president’s Homeland Security Advisor Lisa Monaco.

He is tasked with protecting Americans from the disease and making sure the response is coordinated with the U.S. effort to stop Ebola in West Africa.


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President Obama had been faced with pressure from critics that argued that the nation's hospitals are not prepared for an outbreak of the virus. So of course a non-medical financial manager is put in place to make sure everything gets done properly.. Former Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson is a bit livid that a non-medical trained oversight is being installed.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/17/1413557621707_wps_1_Film_subject_Ron_Klain_an.jpg

Ron Klain shown above left. - A former White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain: Klain, made famous in the 2008 HBO Movie Recount, was Chief of Staff to President Al Gore. He was be the reader’s eyes into the inner workings of the Gore White House. Klain is a political pragmatist and D.C. Insider. His perspective will be in favor of the President and Democrats, though he won’t sugar coat things.


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Anybody recall what the job of the US Surgeon General (http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/about/)is?


The Surgeon General oversees the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (USPHS), an elite group of more than 6,800 uniformed officer public health professionals working throughout the Federal government whose mission is to protect, promote, and advance the health of our Nation. Additionally, the Office of the Surgeon General is the headquarters for the Civilian Volunteer Medical Reserve Corps, a national network of more than 200,000 volunteers committed to improving the public health, emergency response, and resiliency of their communities.

The Surgeon General is nominated by the President of the United States with advice and consent of the United States Senate for a four-year term of office. The Office of the Surgeon General is part of the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Health in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

Rear Admiral Boris D. Lushniak, MD, MPH serves as Acting Surgeon General, and Rear Admiral Scott F. Giberson, BSPharm, MPH serves as Acting Deputy Surgeon General.

Would one suppose the above MD's don't want to come anywhere near the situation, but an inexperienced medically, investment manager would go for it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrificial_lamb), not knowing what he is getting into? How odd.. (baaaaa.....)

[avid]

Apologies if previously posted, however, there may be a mix-up of symptoms, with an aggressive TB virus.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/16/325940/

Concerns Regarding The Ebola Virus
“We saw a gigantic worm like-structure — gigantic by viral standards. It’s a very unusual shape for a virus.To some it might be considered wormlike, to others serpentine.” … Peter Piot
… by Dr. Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.
Referenced by Jeff Smith, Science Editor, Veterans Today
The CDC recently declared:
“Diagnosing Ebola in a person who has been infected for only a few days is difficult, because the early symptoms, such as fever, are nonspecific to Ebola infection and are seen often in patients with more commonly occurring diseases, such as malaria and typhoid fever.”
Only a sin of omission then would explain why anyone or any group would not want to specifically mention the most commonly occurring cause of infectious death in Africa — tuberculosis — whose sky-high rates in West Africa make Ebola look like a dropper-full of water squeezed into the Mississippi.
If by October, 2014, Ebola had laid claim to what some say is 3,000-plus deaths since its February outbreak, certainly this ought to be weighed in the light of the approximately 600,000 Africans killed by TB in the same time-frame.
Furthermore, although TB incidence is decreasing globally, incidence rates are increasing in most of West Africa1 — ground zero for the current Ebola outburst. Just as curiously, almost half of all TB cases in the West African Ebola zone are caused by an unusual, yet just as deadly member of tubercular family,Mycobacterium africanum — a strain of tuberculosis exclusive to West Africa, which is fast becoming a microbe of great public — and now possibly global concern.
Surely the CDC is aware that there is not a sign or symptom of Ebola, including its hemorrhagic tendencies that cannot be found in acute disseminated miliary (blood-bourne) tuberculosis, once called “galloping consumption” — the single most feared form of the disease ever. And most likely it is also aware that such tuberculosis has its own viral-like forms, some of which can simulate the Ebola. Such viral TB is generally acknowledged to be TB’s preferred form — as a survival strategy to storm any inclement conditions the microbe might find itself in.2
Then why did the CDC not mention TB, by name, in their short-list of possibilities that could cause Ebola-like symptoms? If such oversight stopped there it would be unremarkable, but it seems to have been carried over in the very design of the most recent diagnostic tests issued to detect Ebola.

The whole article is very informative, and the repercussions of ignoring the potentiality of the spread of TB, via germs on blankets from imported central American 'refugees' etc is vast. Getting 'Ebola' and an aggressive TB virus mixed-up could be plausible. Similar symptoms, visible blood loss....

What a mess.....

[Chanlo23]

... So if this person is not sick in one report, sick in another report, quarantined in another report, stuck on a tender boat in another report, being transported back to the US, being kept onboard the Carnival ship in another report - - - what is being sent across the wires currently - this type of behavior has appeared within 10 hours of the new Ebola Czar being placed in power to "oversee" it all.. Apparently their 'solution' is to MUDDY THE WATERS to cause the WORLD to look at discrediting any real information sources, 'cept "theirs". Watch for this type of behaviour ramping up globally now.


Following the latest reports of people exposed walking around potentially exposing 1000's of others, three more reports were in Texas newspapers today:


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/us/controls-poor-at-hospital-nurse-says.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&region=Footer&module=MoreInSection&pgtype=article Inside nurse reports on real conditions at hospital in Dallas.
http://kxan.com/2014/10/16/ut-regents-gather-for-special-briefing-on-ebola/ UT Regents meeting to discuss ebola, say what?
http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/2014/10/17/city-travis-co-resident-being-monitored-for-ebola/17431937/ So this explains why the UT regents met about it. As a UT employee, I would find it interesting to know how many of the kids, staff, faculty on campus have been exposed to the UT student they are 'monitoring'. I doubt if that will be hitting the news any time soon.


There were several other reports in the news today on this or that person who might have been exposed, may have endangered others, plans to close all schools or businesses where such people visited from "an abundance of caution". No clue which reports are 'real' and which are speculation as there does not appear to be much clarity or 'proof' being offered.

It's clear the news and information are being spun, but its still too early to tell exactly WHAT the end game is, and what the percentage of truth:lie truly exists.

[Bob]

Update - Mexico now says to Carnival - STAY AWAY you cannot dock

News is confirming it is a lab supervisor, she left Sunday from Galveston Texas for the trip on the cruise ship.

Passengers are saying, they are not being told about it being an Ebola alert. BUT that they will have to return to Galveston because nobody will let them land.

Possibly at some point reference will be made, that the US should remember that, that Mexico refused to provide help - if and when Mexico requires viral assistance they may see feet dragging and borders being closed.. suppose?

Belize has already now sealed its fate ECONOMICALLY now refusing a cruise ship - Belize economy lives off cruise travel - of which it depends. Cruise ship businesses know they will never receive help, and Belize just cut their own throats, economically, saying GO AWAY to a ship in distress - NOBODY refuses a ship, that is a violation of code of conduct.. Bad bad move Belize..


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PSYOPS - never let a good opportunity to bring forth a study of human behavior -
Airplane incident
Airport incident
Cruise ship incident

If anyone were to be studying human behavior and "driving/steering" it sure seems either there is a whole bunch of stupid going on, with health care workers who would know better, doing things like taking trips where many others would be potentially put at risk..

The thing is, the disease is real.. HOW the psyops component behind it is being used SHOULD be looked at carefully.. Who stands to gain by more restriction to travel? Who would be more gladly to accept vaccinations putting a LIVE but diminished Ebola virus in their body (where no long term studies had been performed?) Who would be reminding us "do you have your flu shot yet?"

The disease is real, it is mutating, however there ARE antivirals for it and many other viruses, which that subject IS being buried as rapidly as it is brought forth..


http://i.imgur.com/wAV4D.gif

We can only assume the psyops characteristics, the "psyops" masters' plans would suffer if there was a way to put-out (quench) the infection without needing constant controls on the People..

[Chanlo23]

...PSYOPS - never let a good opportunity to bring forth a study of human behavior -
Airplane incident, Airport incident, Cruise ship incident

You forgot university and multiple hospital incident(s) ... And, with the different 'demographics', you have also studies on a doctor, reporter, nurse, businessman, student with mixed gender data. Discussions (and/or real thing) of business, cruise line, airline, and school closures have taken place.

Who gains if folks can not travel, do business, be educated, receive medical treatment, and have no one that actually KNOWS what is REALLY happening?

[Bob]

More on the Carnival Ship - "Magic (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/10/17/texas-based-carnival-magic-cruise-ship-stuck-at-sea-with-4633-passengers-and-dallas-healthcare-worker-with-ebola-symptoms-belize-refuses-port-entry-belizeans-saying-sink-ship-armed-belize/)"

"Ebola Scare creates Utter Panic on ship.."

There we go the test that someone wanted, see how >4000 people, heck why stop with only 130 plus people on a plane, go for a ship at sea...react... hmmm

This reminds me of the Skinner box - http://psychology.about.com/od/sindex/g/def_skinnerbox.htm


Developed by B. F. Skinner, a Skinner box is a chamber that contains a bar or key that an animal can press or manipulate in order to obtain food or water as a type of reinforcement. The Skinner box also had a device that recorded each response provided by the animal as well as the unique schedule of reinforcement that the animal was assigned.

The design of Skinner boxes can vary depending upon the type of animal and the experimental variables. The box is a chamber that includes at least one lever, bar, or key that the animal can manipulate. When the lever is pressed, food, water, or some other type of reinforcement might be dispensed. Other stimuli can also be presented including lights, sounds, and images. In some instances, the floor of the chamber may be electrified.

What exactly was the purpose of a Skinner box?

Using the device researchers could carefully study behavior in a very controlled environment.

Crew lines up with disinfectant !


http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/ht_cleaning_crew_iphone_jc_141017_16x9_992.jpg

"The chaos started this morning when there was an announcement on the ship’s intercom saying "that someone who worked in the lab who handled the person in Dallas’s blood was on the ship,” Jon’s brother and fellow passenger Jeremy Malone told ABC. The cruise line said the woman is in isolation on board the ship.

"You're using the same buffet line as someone else, the same waiters, the folks that clean the state rooms. If someone was cleaning their state room and cleaned yours right after, the exposure that you have there to elevators..." he said. "It's very tight quarters and a lot of interaction. It's really difficult to control any type of virus that's on a cruise ship. It's like a floating petri dish. It spreads very rapidly."

[Bob]

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas

This "hospital" reports are saying, has a nasty dark financial problem - This hospital is part of a faith based non-profit network that says with compassion, education, care and responsibility they are able to serve the community with 25 other hospitals in their network - they are in Texas to serve the community.. but they don't run a class 4 pathogen grade isolation unit... therefore..

Another reason for an open-light policy to treat patients with a class 4 pathogen (i.e. filovirus family, Marburg, Ebola) in a proper facility with proper hospital equipment, proper training for staff, proper equipment for safety - to prevent an outbreak.. (outbreak a spread from one to another, and another - a growing outbreak can be exponential or linear depending on quarantine steps or severity of virulence, or how rapidly it kills or incapacitates)

Reputation, it seems to be not going good for the hospital - turns out that the hospital lost a bunch of federal funding - due to patient re-admission, poor treatment history, patients have to come back, not helped... They were fined for the re-admissions, 3 years in a row. Patients are then too scared to go there. The hospital has now lost 2/3ds of its patient care capacity.. Talks are ongoing about shutting this down..

Texas Health Resources (http://texashealth.org/) is the parent organization who owns this hospital.. they operate 25 other properties in Texas. Experience generally is as has been pointed out by the Nurses, POLICY IS SET by the SUPERVISORS, who ANSWER TO THE PARENT COMPANY, who says this is the bottom line how expense and profit are going to be made.. COST CUTTING skimping is typically how it is done. Was that the reason here why this whole episode started? (they have a nice slick PR piece on their website to assure people, "nothing to see here, move along...") helping people to understand, it is all under control.


http://www.healthleadersmedia.com/content/306994.jpg
(above Barclay Berdan - FACHE, is chief executive officer (CEO) of Texas Health Resources, one of the largest faith-based, nonprofit health systems in the United States and the largest in North Texas in terms of patients served. )


So.. Was it all about COST CUTTING? Was it to put some $$$ in somebody's pocket, or back into the coffer's in the parent company? Was it about not thinking about the risk the rest of the community? Is this happening with other hospitals run by this company?

Attempting to find out WHY this hospital didn't do the right things; the nurses knew they were being told wrong incorrect data and apparently they tried to do something only to have been told, NO - the supervisors apparently citing WRONG incorrect CDC data as to how to treat a disease.. (wrongly), and the buck kept being passed, possibly with the ultimate owners saying something related to save money where ever possible.. suppose that was it?

(CNN news for the source of this data)


http://cc.amazingcounters.com/counter.php?i=3190880&c=9572953

[Bob]

WHO says - "oops" - they bungled how to deal with this - CDC director says "oops" sorry about that...

(numerous sources, WHO statements, CDC statement)

People die.. Opps? due to mis-management, publishing outdated information? In-adequate equipment, supplies? Front line people, doctors, nurses saying something is really wrong here..

oops? that is supposed to make it all better?

Texas Health Resources (http://healthcare.dmagazine.com/2014/10/16/texas-health-resources-deeply-sorry-for-errors-leading-to-ebola-misdiagnosis-additional-cases/) says "Sorry, so deeply sorry..." and that is supposed to resurrect Mr. Duncan? or deal with the issues the sick staff members are having? or the community?

sorry, so sorry? oops?

Well, lets solve this ! PUT IN A GOOD PR manager to deal with it. Good PR always.. (dohh)

[Meggings]

Excuse me ....

[avid]

bad scenarios - total grieving

[Matisse]

The four patients admited to the hospital yesterday in Madrid suspected of having ebola have so far all tested negative. The man from Nigeria on the air france flight seems to have malaria. Also all of the patients in quarentine who had contact with the infected nurse Teresa Romero all test negative for the moment. Just thought I would throw in some good news....

[Bob]

Summary from previous page (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=889503&viewfull=1#post889503) -


CDC says sorry.. Texas hospital corporation says sorry for the misdiagnosis

Nurses say they know they were mismanaged, and followed their supervisors instructions but got sick

Belize and Mexico turn away a cruise ship with a problem, refusing to let a passenger or two disembark

Nurses moved out of Texas hospital

New CZAR put into place, no medical experience but a great political interface - medical people disenchanted by the choice

CDC documents sent to hospitals don't talk about ebola control, but a lower virus, RSV - inadequate protection practices (worldwide) therefore apparently is promulgated by the agency

Various schools and businesses considering and doing voluntary control measures

Questions about PSYOPS being conducted..

As emphasised in the OP, the first post, the purpose of this thread is not to try to debunk ebola activity - the virus exists and mis-information has been put out by agencies.. Liberia has instituted a forced clamp-down on news from reporters in Liberia.

Sierra Leone is under-reporting cases, and deaths (I know that from first hand discussion with a trusted contact in Nigeria who is in contact with networks in the region from Cameroon, Nigeria, Coast de Ivorie, Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, the Gambia, Senegal, and Morocco.) The contact is confirming the ebola infection exists as well as NUMEROUS other infections and diseases that are harming the People because hospitals are now either shutting down or are overwhelmed unable to take (house in a room) in ANYONE with any other disease, IN THE HOTZONE countries.. Sepsis is reported as being very present. Anyone that can see a doctor is ushered out by a nurse fast back into the community. The contact has said, misinformation and disinformation is spreading because of POLITICAL REASONS - anything that will slam a politician, can put $$ or "status" in the opposing party's coffers, or in the minimum influence public perception of the politicians (those with the political axe to grind); and those people are using Ebola as a political weapon - that IS what is happening. They use whatever tool will get them the most attention.

There are plenty of threads on the Forum that one can take the conspiracy theory. I would like to concentrate on WHERE WHEN WHY and by WHOM and what accepted medical treatment are being used, or will be or what anti-viral medical treatments are being suppressed. There are plenty of alternative TREATMENT threads on the FORUM and this thread is not for those discussions.

Where suspected alerts or alarms are very important for people to know, to be alert, wake up and find out what is happening in their space. Who is involved is important to know.

A whistle blowers report such as from a NURSE or DOCTOR expressing what is happening, what is being suppressed as to WHERE an outbreak could happen if unchecked, could provide good data for this thread and thereby help people stay informed.

A document that says some country, or agency or group has developed a bioweapon and deployed it matches the subject of this thread - Is the outbreak NATURAL, or ACCIDENTAL (such as poor equipment, or poor training, or deliberate mis-training)... that information is useful for instance.. A bioweapon report and who is conducting such tests, who are conductiing countermeasure studies is useful.. Historically what countermeasures stop the hemorrhagic fever viruses.

A brief mention on the live virus vaccine treatment I think is valid for specifically the hemorrhagic fever virus.. Discussing flu virus vaccines, or mercury in vaccines, adjunctives is not appropriate for this thread, there are plenty of other threads dealing with vaccines..

*Hotzone countries - Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone.

Thanks


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[Bob]

Yikes - up to 1000 people now (http://www.freep.com/story/news/world/2014/10/17/number-people-checked-ebola-surges-toward/17462333/) in the "circles" being in the checking loop.. All from one person's flight on a commercial plane (twice) when she should have known better, but she was CLEARED by the CDC that it was OK to fly - she wanted to get to the location of the wedding practice.. (the justifier)


As of Friday, a pool of about 1,000 people are being watched for symptoms, have been asked to monitor themselves or have been urged to check with a counselor at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The group includes a handful of people who have been ordered into quarantine, a larger group that is being closely watched with temperatures taken at least daily and a much larger group of travelers who may haven flown on a Frontier Airlines jetliner used at some point by an Ebola patient traveling with a low-grade fever.

None of those being monitored, regardless of their group, has exhibited any Ebola symptoms.

Wrap one's head around the Carnival "trip"..

HOW many people now could possibly be told they are "in the circle" when the get off the boat? 21 days of monitoring? HOW will that be addressed, who will say it will be a $$$ burden on the ship owners, or the passengers? Some reports are saying over 4400 souls on that boat. Where did the lab supervisor and her husband travel on the ship? Thing which is a positive, the supervisor had been working with the samples 19 days ago say the reports.. And is quarantined on board.. That could be the lining for any dark clouds to be lifted soon by the time the ship gets back to home port in a couple days..

[Roisin]

:horn: Newest Ebola Headline 10:46 EST from Cleveland, Ohio

Nurse on flights may have had more advanced case of Ebola
The Hill - ‎44 minutes ago‎
The nurse who flew between Dallas and Cleveland and later tested positive for Ebola may have been at a more advanced stage of the disease than previously thought, the president of Frontier Airlines said.

Barry Biffle notified employees on Friday about the findings from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Associated Press reports.

The CDC has said those diagnosed with Ebola are more contagious as the disease advances, and when symptoms progress.
The CDC reassured the airline company that crew members on the flights are at low risk of exposure to the disease, Biffle said.

Frontier put the pilots and flight attendants on leave for 21 days, which health experts say is the maximum amount of days it could take someone exposed to Ebola to become sick.

All passengers on the flight with the nurse Amber Joy Vinson have been notified, Biffle said.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/221169-nurse-on-flights-may-have-had-more-advanced-case-of-ebola

[sheme]

There is a kind of slow motion inevitability about this announcement, you know the sort of scene they slow mo in the movies -just before the car crashes.:(

[sheme]

This might be of interest, Artificial spleen removes HIV Ebola and virus with magnetic nano beads, to be tested on pigs next.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/artificial-spleen-removes-ebola-hiv-viruses-toxins-blood-using-magnets-1465585

[Bob]

About the VSV-EBOV – Canada’s Experimental vaccine for Ebola

Get ready, here it comes Africa -

Being sent to WHO in Geneva, the first shipment goes out Monday.

VSV-EBOV is an experimental Ebola vaccine developed by researchers at the Public Health Agency of Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory (NML).

This vaccine is considered "experimental". It is based on an animal virus called vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) that is combined with a portion of the protein covering of the Ebola virus. When administered, it induces an immune response against the Ebola virus.

The VSV acts as the infectious "core" that is used to allow the virus proteins to be injected into the cells. The antibody response then rapidly goes after the resultant human viral infection, creating antibodies (and a genetic tag to those viral proteins). In theory, the safety question is to determine the dose level - how many infectious particles can be safely tolerated..

Being tolerated means, because of die-off of the infected human cells, how many can be safely cleared from the body and how many anti-bodies can be created.. Is that 20,000,000,000 (thats 20 billion) virus particles or 50 billion for instance.

Testing for appropriate dose level is happening at the US Walter Reed Army medical facility in Maryland USA, (the facility's Institute of Research).

Live virus verses weakened virus.. One of the factors to be determined is how often will a booster shot be required. For instance Yellow Fever vaccination requires an initial dose where in about 10-15 days "immune system protection" capability starts, and lasts for up to 10 years before they say a booster vaccination is required to keep more viral particles in the body so that antibody production continues. (a constant low grade war exists with antibody production going after a continual low grade "yellow fever")..

Canadian Statement - that they are performing a humanitarian effort to make available the vaccine products - they are helping the WHO fulfill their role in Africa overcome the Ebola virus outbreak..


Canada's 'project' is NOT a "Bill Gates" virus vaccination campaign, but is instituted BY the CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. The other vaccine maker is based in BRITAIN, Glaxo-Smith-Kline. Gates has nothing to do with the EBOLA VACCINES being developed by CANADA. The US MILITARY ROLE is to obtain a vaccine for it's troops. USAMRIID and DTRA are two US government organizations who have contributed research and FUNDING for these other COUNTRIES.


http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/images/lffl.png

(above from their website announcement at: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/id-mi/vsv-ebov-fs-eng.php)

"The Government of Canada will be shipping 800 vials of its experimental Ebola vaccine to the World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva, beginning with its first shipment on Monday, October 20, 2014. These shipments will fulfill the Government’s vaccine donation commitment to the ongoing Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

"The Public Health Agency of Canada is supplying the vaccine to the WHO in its role as the international coordinating body for the Ebola outbreak, so that the vaccine can be made available as an international resource. The WHO, in consultation with partners, including the health authorities from the affected countries, will guide and facilitate how the vaccine should be distributed and used.

"The remaining vials of the vaccine will be kept in Canada for further research and compassionate use as required."


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VSV - understanding the nature of the viral engine that has been modified to contain Ebola proteins

Researchers expect different types of vaccines to have different effects on the immune system.

Because the vaccine being tested in Mali and Baltimore uses a weakened virus, it might be tolerated better but not last as long as vaccines that use live viruses, said Dr. Thomas Geisbert, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston who has studied Ebola for decades and helped develop the Profectus vaccine.

The trials are also testing the performance of varying dosage levels, ranging from 25 billion to 50 billion modified virus particles.

It is unclear whether some vaccine candidates could require rounds of booster shots to prolong immunity, or whether others might provide longer immunity but at greater risk of side effects.

Profectus' vaccine uses a live virus that has been genetically altered. It can still reproduce, but its ability to do so is limited, so it doesn't overgrow in the body, Geisbert said.

The Canadian vaccine, licensed to the Iowa company NewLink Genetics Corp., uses the same live virus as Profectus' candidate, a pathogen found in livestock called vesicular stomatitis virus.

Scientists have found vehicles for inciting an immune response that guards against Ebola in animals — mainly viruses that have been modified so the body recognizes them as Ebola but that don't cause sickness in humans. Several projects had shown safety and efficacy in animals, but were slow to advance into human trials.

University of Maryland medical researchers are testing a vaccine developed at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (where Dr. Fauci is out of, one may have seen him talking about "no worries, nothing to see here" with respect to the US being able to contain, without a large outbreak, Ebola on US shores), which is part of the National Institutes of Health.

The NIH vaccine uses a chimpanzee cold virus (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/09/ebola_virus_vaccine_works_but.html) that carries an Ebola protein.

The viruses are genetically altered so they cannot reproduce, but the immune system nonetheless produces antibodies to counteract them. (that would be considered a "dead" virus vaccine verses the "live or weakened" virus methods).

There has been a question with vaccine makers, what is better, a continual "low grade infection", where the body will continually produce antibodies, thereby keeping the target virus in-check, or will a dose of "viral proteins (without a viral reproduction mechanism) be sufficient.. So possibly it really isn't about the "money" that could be made from continual "booster" or new variant (mutations of the earlier virus), but a matter of what works best to induce and maintain a sufficiently "high degree of anti-body activity" when the actual "full strength" target virus infection is contracted in the "wild" (real world)..

What "other" effects happen with a particular high level of antibody activity in the human? That is a discussion for the anti-vaccine threads :)

References:

http://oxfordmedicine.com/view/10.1093/med/9780198570028.001.0001/med-9780198570028-chapter-031


Amongst the most recent promising vaccines under development are a number of recombinant based systems. The most noticeable those based vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) that expresses a single filovirus glycoprotein (GP) in place of the VSV glycoprotein.

A single dose vaccine has proved capable of protecting non-human primates against Sudan ebolavirus (SEBOV), Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV), Cote d’Ivoire ebolavirus (CIEBOV), and Marburgvirus (MARV) (Feldmann H et al. 2007; Geisbert et al. 2009).

Recently, a two-injection filovirus vaccine regime (challenge/booster) based on an adenovirus vector expressing multiple antigens from five different filoviruses, (ZEBOV NP, ZEBOV GP, SEBOV GP, MARV Ci67 strain GP, MARV Ravn strain GP, MARV Musoke strain NP, MARV Musoke strain GP), proved successful (Pratt et al. 2010).

All animals in these studies survived the initial filovirus challenge with a different strain or species of filovirus. However, there are a number of significant safety challenges in humans; particularly those with an altered immune status are yet to be overcome.

[Hervé]

Ebola Outbreak Was Quickly Contained in Congo: How? (http://www.livescience.com/48306-how-congo-ebola-outbreak-is-different.html)

by Bahar Gholipour, Staff Writer | October 15, 2014 05:40pm ET



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This digitally-colorized scanning electron micrograph (SEM) shows Ebola virus particles budding from the surface of a cell. Credit: CDC/ NIAID


Aside from the three nations in West Africa that are struggling with the Ebola outbreak, another outbreak of the virus occurred in Central Africa and was quickly contained. Now, new studies confirm that the two outbreaks were unrelated, and offer explanations why one was contained, while the other spiraled out of control.

The Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) began July 26 and was the seventh outbreak in this region since the discovery of the virus in 1976. The first patient was a pregnant woman from Ikanamongo Village who likely contracted the virus when she butchered a bush animal (http://www.livescience.com/47946-where-did-ebola-come-from.html). She died Aug. 11. About 70 more people also became ill (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/drc/2014-august.html) and more than 40 died by October, but the outbreak seems to have been tapering off since.

In contrast, the Ebola outbreak (http://www.livescience.com/topics/ebola-outbreak/) in West Africa has affected at least 8,400 people and killed more than 4,000 people since it began in Guinea in early 2014 and spread to the neighboring countries of Liberia and Sierra Leone.

In one new study, published online today (Oct.15) in the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers performed genetic sequencing on virus samples taken from patients in Congo.

They found that the virus in the Congo outbreak is 99.2 percent similar to the Ebola virus that caused an outbreak in Congo in 1995, but is less similar (96.8 percent) to the virus currently circulating in West Africa.

The genetic findings, together with the geographic separation of the two outbreaks, make it clear that the outbreak in the DRC is an independent event with no connection to the epidemic in West Africa, the researchers said. [2014 Ebola Outbreak: Full Coverage of the Viral Epidemic (http://www.livescience.com/48235-ebola-outbreak-news.html)]

Moreover, the newest outbreak in Congo will probably follow a similar course as other Ebola outbreaks in this region: Central African outbreaks in the past have typically had a low number of people affected, and have been brought under control within two to three months, the researchers said.

It is not clear exactly why outbreaks in Congo are easier to manage than the epidemic in West Africa, but experts have pointed to some differences between the two regions.

After experiencing six Ebola outbreaks in less than 40 years, Congo is well prepared, and the country's response to outbreaks is quicker and more effective than it might be elsewhere. "The time that it takes to respond to news of an outbreak has been shortened over the years," the researchers wrote.

In contrast, the three worst-hit countries in the West African Ebola outbreak had never encountered this virus.

Moreover, Congo outbreaks tend happen in isolated, forested areas. But in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, villages, towns and capital cities are well connected to each other via extensive networks of footpaths, dirt roads and paved highways, making it easier for the virus to spread between communities and across frequently traveled borders.

This is not the only time that two unrelated Ebola outbreaks happened simultaneously. In fact, when the virus first emerged in 1976 (http://www.livescience.com/48170-ebola-outbreak-in-1976-revisited.html), it caused two nearly simultaneous but unrelated outbreaks in Congo (which was then Zaire) and in Sudan.

[Sidney]

Quote from Bob
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Get ready, here it comes Africa -

Being sent to WHO in Geneva, the first shipment goes out Monday.

VSV-EBOV is an experimental Ebola vaccine developed by researchers at the Public Health Agency of Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory (NML).

This vaccine is considered "experimental". It is based on an animal virus called vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) that is combined with a portion of the protein covering of the Ebola virus. When administered, it induces an immune response against the Ebola virus.

The VSV acts as the infectious "core" that is used to allow the virus proteins to be injected into the cells. The antibody response then rapidly goes after the resultant human viral infection, creating antibodies (and a genetic tag to those viral proteins). In theory, the safety question is to determine the dose level - how many infectious particles can be safely tolerated..

Being tolerated means, because of die-off of the infected human cells, how many can be safely cleared from the body and how many anti-bodies can be created.. Is that 20,000,000,000 (thats 20 billion) virus particles or 50 billion for instance.

Testing for appropriate dose level is happening at the US Walter Reed Army medical facility in Maryland USA, (the facility's Institute of Research).

Live virus verses weakened virus.. One of the factors to be determined is how often will a booster shot be required. For instance Yellow Fever vaccination requires an initial dose where in about 10-15 days "immune system protection" capability starts, and lasts for up to 10 years before they say a booster vaccination is required to keep more viral particles in the body so that antibody production continues. (a constant low grade war exists with antibody production going after a continual low grade "yellow fever")..

Canadian Statement - that they are performing a humanitarian effort to make available the vaccine products - they are helping the WHO fulfill their role in Africa overcome the Ebola virus outbreak..

Quote Canada's 'project' is NOT a "Bill Gates" virus vaccination campaign, but is instituted BY the CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. The other vaccine maker is based in BRITAIN, Glaxo-Smith-Kline. Gates has nothing to do with the EBOLA VACCINES being developed by CANADA. The US MILITARY ROLE is to obtain a vaccine for it's troops. USAMRIID and DTRA are two US government organizations who have contributed research and FUNDING for these other COUNTRIES.


(above from their website announcement at: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/id-mi/vsv-ebov-fs-eng.php)

"The Government of Canada will be shipping 800 vials of its experimental Ebola vaccine to the World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva, beginning with its first shipment on Monday, October 20, 2014. These shipments will fulfill the Government’s vaccine donation commitment to the ongoing Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

"The Public Health Agency of Canada is supplying the vaccine to the WHO in its role as the international coordinating body for the Ebola outbreak, so that the vaccine can be made available as an international resource. The WHO, in consultation with partners, including the health authorities from the affected countries, will guide and facilitate how the vaccine should be distributed and used.

"The remaining vials of the vaccine will be kept in Canada for further research and compassionate use as required."

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VSV - understanding the nature of the viral engine that has been modified to contain Ebola proteins

Researchers expect different types of vaccines to have different effects on the immune system.

Because the vaccine being tested in Mali and Baltimore uses a weakened virus, it might be tolerated better but not last as long as vaccines that use live viruses, said Dr. Thomas Geisbert, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston who has studied Ebola for decades and helped develop the Profectus vaccine.

The trials are also testing the performance of varying dosage levels, ranging from 25 billion to 50 billion modified virus particles.

It is unclear whether some vaccine candidates could require rounds of booster shots to prolong immunity, or whether others might provide longer immunity but at greater risk of side effects.

Profectus' vaccine uses a live virus that has been genetically altered. It can still reproduce, but its ability to do so is limited, so it doesn't overgrow in the body, Geisbert said.

The Canadian vaccine, licensed to the Iowa company NewLink Genetics Corp., uses the same live virus as Profectus' candidate, a pathogen found in livestock called vesicular stomatitis virus.

Scientists have found vehicles for inciting an immune response that guards against Ebola in animals — mainly viruses that have been modified so the body recognizes them as Ebola but that don't cause sickness in humans. Several projects had shown safety and efficacy in animals, but were slow to advance into human trials.

University of Maryland medical researchers are testing a vaccine developed at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (where Dr. Fauci is out of, one may have seen him talking about "no worries, nothing to see here" with respect to the US being able to contain, without a large outbreak, Ebola on US shores), which is part of the National Institutes of Health.

The NIH vaccine uses a chimpanzee cold virus that carries an Ebola protein.

The viruses are genetically altered so they cannot reproduce, but the immune system nonetheless produces antibodies to counteract them. (that would be considered a "dead" virus vaccine verses the "live or weakened" virus methods).

There has been a question with vaccine makers, what is better, a continual "low grade infection", where the body will continually produce antibodies, thereby keeping the target virus in-check, or will a dose of "viral proteins (without a viral reproduction mechanism) be sufficient.. So possibly it really isn't about the "money" that could be made from continual "booster" or new variant (mutations of the earlier virus), but a matter of what works best to induce and maintain a sufficiently "high degree of anti-body activity" when the actual "full strength" target virus infection is contracted in the "wild" (real world)..

What "other" effects happen with a particular high level of antibody activity in the human? That is a discussion for the anti-vaccine threads

References:

http://oxfordmedicine.com/view/10.10...28-chapter-031

Quote Amongst the most recent promising vaccines under development are a number of recombinant based systems. The most noticeable those based vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) that expresses a single filovirus glycoprotein (GP) in place of the VSV glycoprotein.

A single dose vaccine has proved capable of protecting non-human primates against Sudan ebolavirus (SEBOV), Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV), Cote d’Ivoire ebolavirus (CIEBOV), and Marburgvirus (MARV) (Feldmann H et al. 2007; Geisbert et al. 2009).

Recently, a two-injection filovirus vaccine regime (challenge/booster) based on an adenovirus vector expressing multiple antigens from five different filoviruses, (ZEBOV NP, ZEBOV GP, SEBOV GP, MARV Ci67 strain GP, MARV Ravn strain GP, MARV Musoke strain NP, MARV Musoke strain GP), proved successful (Pratt et al. 2010).

All animals in these studies survived the initial filovirus challenge with a different strain or species of filovirus. However, there are a number of significant safety challenges in humans; particularly those with an altered immune status are yet to be overcome.
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Dear WHO, CDC and any other agency that this may concern.

NO THANKS!!!!!

[Hervé]

Troops or vaccines?

70-90% efficiency: Russia to send Ebola vaccine to W. Africa in 2 months (http://rt.com/news/195536-ebola-russia-vaccine-send/)

Published time: October 13, 2014 13:12
Edited time: October 15, 2014 08:38
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In two months, Russia is planning to send a new experimental vaccine against Ebola to Africa, according to the country’s health minister. The efficiency of the drug, which is to be tested on the ground, is about 70-90 percent.

“Today we are discussing that we will have enough of Triazoverin vaccine in two months so that we can send them to our personnel in Guinea and test its efficiency in clinical conditions,” Health Minister Veronika Skvortsova said.

The vaccine has so far proved efficient against various hemorrhagic fevers, including the Marburg virus which is very similar to Ebola.

“The efficiency ranges between 70 and 90 percent and this is a very good indicator,” Skvortsova said.

Russia’ Virology Institute is preparing a whole group of drugs.

“They are basically genetically engineered drugs which can work both for disease treatment and prevention,” Skvortsova said.

Russian virologists, who have set up a laboratory in Guinea, are preparing to test the vaccine on primates.

“The vaccine we have produced is made from the attenuated strains [of the virus]. We now have enough to repeat the experiment on the primates and proceed to clinical trials.”

On Sunday, Skvortsova announced that Russian scientists are working on three potential Ebola vaccines which they expect to introduce as soon as in the next six months.

"We have created three vaccines,” she said in an interview with Rossiya-1 TV. “One vaccine is based on a strain of Ebola, and the other two have been created by means of genetic engineering.”

As of October 8, a total of 4,033 people had died from the Ebola outbreak, out of a total of 8,399 registered cases in seven countries, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported. For now, Liberia is the worst-hit with 4,076 cases and 2,316 deaths. It is followed by Sierra Leone, where there are 2,950 cases and 930 deaths.

According to the WHO, the fatality rate associated with Ebola averages roughly 50 percent, but has ranged from 25 percent to 90 percent in past outbreaks.



READ MORE: Scientists in Russia developing three Ebola vaccines (http://rt.com/news/195332-russia-vaccine-ebola-virus/)

[Bob]

About the Ebola Zaire (modified) strains..

The variants, meaning mutations, in the EBOV-Z could lead to a method to allow the virus to become "weaker", so that it is able to infect MORE.. A virus with a high-burn rate kills so fast that the infection is stopped cause there are no more carriers alive.. The earlier erroneous 50% rate reported for the current outbreak in west Africa was WRONG due to statistical errors - the actual closer statistical death rate is more near 70% deaths.. Improved treatment reduces death rate no treatment and the rate is closer to 90% meaning a 10% at best natural immunity may exist in some people.

The warning about a vaccination that creates ONLY a 70-90% efficiency (in what protection?) means 10-30% of those infected with the unattenuated "full strength" in the wild strain, could do what Biopreparat (*) has been trying all along, come up with an un-stoppable bioweapon.. The remaining unprotected vectors will contain "ultra-strength" viruses.. perfect for the weaponization program.. This would be an alarming to release into Africa (or anywhere) an imperfect vaccine..

It is well known that bacteria can develop anti-biotic resistance... And luckily the anti-biotic arsenal is keeping up with "resistance"..

It was mentioned earlier in this thread, the AMPLIFICATION techniques rely on deliberately creating a PARTIAL MEASURE of killing off the pathogen, so that ONLY the stronger pathogens REMAIN.. THIS is the technique that Russian/Soviet block labs have used continually..

By doing what they are claiming they are doing in Africa right now, with this PARTIAL protection, means AMPLIFICATION IS the goal..

That is a bad move to let Russia let loose a PARTIAL protection virus system claimed to be a 'vaccine' - don't let that happen. Very bad.. NEVER EVER EVER ! release a partial effective product because of AMPLIFICATION which ALWAYS HAPPENS.. doing that.

* Biopreparat, "Биопрепарат" was the Soviet Union's major biological warfare agency from the 1970s onwards. It continues to be a vast, ostensibly civilian, network of secret laboratories, each of which focused on a different deadly bioagent. The modernized version VECTOR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Research_Center_of_Virology_and_Biotechnology_VECTOR)..

Pathogens that were successfully weaponized by the organization included (in order of completion):


Smallpox
Bubonic plague
Anthrax
Venezuelan equine encephalitis
Tularemia
Influenza
Brucellosis
Marburg virus (believed to be under development as of 1992)
Ebola
Machupo virus (believed to be under development as of 1992)
Veepox (hybrid of Venezuelan equine encephalitis with smallpox)
Ebolapox (hybrid of ebola with smallpox)

[Atlas]

From "Ebola Is Terrifying, But It Kills Far, Far Fewer People Than These Other Diseases" (http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-terrifying-it-kills-far-far-fewer-people-these-other-diseases-1567266), April 04 2014, by Connor Adams Sheets:

[...] Ebola is by no means among the most dire global health threats. It has killed far fewer people than many other diseases, and outbreaks generally strike a limited geographic area for a relatively short period of time before being eliminated.

That hasn't made Ebola, a hemorrhagic fever with no cure that kills gruesomely the majority of those it infects, any less feared.

Countless articles have been written about the supposed potential of a scourge of Ebola. Hit movies and best-selling books from “The Hot Zone” to “Outbreak” play on these fears, leaving people terrified that Ebola will kill millions in gruesome fashion.

But the truth is that there are many far more common diseases that have claimed hundreds of times as many lives as Ebola, and the chance that that will change anytime soon is highly unlikely, according to leading experts.

In comparison, another hemorrhagic fever called Lassa fever is “endemic in parts of West Africa including Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea and Nigeria,” where it infects between 300,000 and 500,000 people and kills about 5,000 each year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. [...]

Dr. Ben Neuman, a virologist at the University of Reading, said. “If this virus was able to spread between people more easily than it currently does, it would have the potential to be more deadly than the black plague. But currently it is not.”

Ebola victims have a 25 to 90 percent chance of dying from the disease, but they have a limited chance of getting it in the first place, experts like Jonathan Ball, a professor of molecular virology at the University of Nottingham, say. “It’s worth remembering that this isn’t the most infectious virus,” Ball said. [...]

“If you look at the total number of cases that have occurred over that period since 1976, it’s somewhere around 2,200 cases,” Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, said. “Relatively speaking that’s a small number, of those about 1,500 have died to give it a 60 percent total mortality.”

But the enduring popular mythology that Ebola will take over the world like a zombie apocalypse does serve a purpose, as it generates media attention that helps efforts to contain outbreaks, according to Fauci.

“The publicity that’s associated with this is a good thing even though it’s scaring some people, because it makes people aware,” he said.

Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-terrifying-it-kills-far-far-fewer-people-these-other-diseases-1567266

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[Bob]

The use of unrelated statistics is useless IMHO.

There are treatments for other diseases, there is no treatment for Ebola or any other Filovirus. To repeatedly bring up other diseases, although tragic that those diseases exist, in any attempt to dissuade people from paying attention to develop a treatment for the filovirus.. continues to try to get people to look the other way.. won't happen.

The bug is out of the bag, there is no treatment. Partial measures of treatment can result in a hyper-strength bug, or a hyper-attenuated bug that can lead to a chronic state..

Don't deal with it or try to dissuade researchers from coming up with a complete solution, or 100% eradication, would open up disaster scenarios..

Let it be solved, not played down.

[Hervé]

Here is a quite comprehensive and documented article summarizing many angles to that potential plague:

EBOLA VIRUS EPIDEMIC: Planned In Advance; Release Of Aerosolized Virus And Deaths Would Frighten Americans To Demand Use Of Unproven Vaccines And Drugs (http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/bill-sardi/ebola-is-good-for-the-vaccine-pharma-cartel/)

By Bill Sardi (http://www.lewrockwell.com/author/bill-sardi/?post_type=article) October 16, 2014

There is no ethical way to conduct a study of anti-Ebola virus vaccines and drugs in humans. You can’t intentionally inject individuals with a deadly virus and then give an inactive placebo pill to half of those who agree to participate as they do in most controlled human clinical studies. [Guardian UK (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/ebola-vaccine-placebo-trials-unethical-scientists-say) Oct 10, 2014] An article published in Scientific American asked: “How do you test a human Ebola vaccine that works?” The answer: “You don’t.” [Scientific American (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/an-uncertain-defense/) Sept 17, 2004]

But what if the Ebola virus is spreading rapidly and killing hundreds or even thousands? The public would likely demand public health officials do something even if available vaccines and drugs are still unproven.

A manufactured outbreak of Ebola would force the issue. Something would have to be done. The public outcry for a cure would be deafening.

Was the unfolding Ebola epidemic contrived?
In a revealing report entitled “Ebola is in America – And, Finally, Within Range Of Big Pharma,” the London-based Guardian newspaper tells how the battle against Ebola was pre-planned. [Guardian UK (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/05/ebola-america-range-big-pharma) Oct 4, 2014]

It appears an effort to drum up an Ebola virus crisis emanated from publication of a list of neglected diseases by the World Health Organization in 2012. With the publication of that list, 13 pharmaceutical companies teamed up with the World Health Organization and the Gates Foundation to control or eradicate ten diseases like tuberculosis, river blindness, sleeping sickness and Ebola.

The End Neglected Tropical Diseases Act [US Govt. Printing Office (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-113hr4847ih/pdf/BILLS-113hr4847ih.pdf)] introduced in Congress this year calls for the US to expand its disease-fighting activities to address international tropical diseases.

Investment houses are paying attention. “Ebola could be the issue that sends the whole thing snowballing. You are going to get more industry engagement. The signs were already positive after the London Declaration on neglected tropic diseases in 2012,” said a Deutsche Bank analyst. Commercial interests, not disease, are the driving force behind this epidemic.

That analyst also said: “To the extent that these diseases are starting to appear in the US, this will put the issue much more firmly on US companies’ radar.” Is this why the arrival of a single case of Ebola involving an airline traveler to the US is getting so much attention?

Once US citizens lives are threatened this will justify use of US funds to develop drugs and vaccines that poor countries can’t afford and also pawn the cost of human studies on the American public rather than pharmaceutical or vaccine makers. This will save billions of research and development dollars for the vaccine and drug companies.

And apparently both sides will profit. It is difficult to fathom that agencies purported to promote public health hold patents on varieties of deadly viruses like Ebola. [US Patent publication number (http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502) US20120251502A1] One begins to wonder what business these public agencies are in – profiteering or health?

So the unprecedented Ebola virus outbreak occurs right on time, based upon questionable diagnostic tests to count up the numbers needed to gain world attention.

An article in Forbes Magazine says the Ebola epidemic has silenced critics of Big Pharma, especially “innovator” drug companies that have been criticized for using patents to produce over-priced drugs beyond the affordability of many countries with exotic tropical diseases.

Now, says the Forbes article, “with the tragic outbreak and ominous spread of the Ebola virus, the whole world seems to be knocking at the drug companies’ doors hoping they will devise some way to prevent or cure Ebola.” [Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2014/09/11/since-the-ebola-outbreak-whos-bad-mouthin-drug-companies-now/) Sept 11, 2014] But has the whole Ebola epidemic been contrived?

The next step is to involve the American public in the drama. [Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/05/ebola-america-range-big-pharma) UK Oct 4, 2014] It’s beginning to sound more and more like the Ebola epidemic was pre-arranged.

Research into tropical diseases is chronically neglected, but the horror of it is the modern effort to quell this epidemic may be worse than the disease itself.

Is Ebola an aerosol weapon?
While public health authorities are saying only direct contact with the virus via body fluids serve as a vector to transmit Ebola from person to person, animal studies in the laboratory say otherwise. A published report says: “At the very least, the potential exists for aerosol transmission, given that virus is detected in bodily secretions, the pulmonary alveolar interstitial cells, and within lung spaces.” [Viruses (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23202456) Oct 15, 2012]
Unsurprisingly, Ebola virus and the whole class of filoviruses which includes the Marburg virus are characterized as potential bioweapons making the list of the CDC’s Category-A Bioterrorism Agents.

Ebola is described as being “relatively stable in aerosols” and can remain present on surfaces for extended periods of time. Tests were performed on monkeys to show that aerosolized Ebola, especially under low temperature and humid conditions, can result in increased body temperatures (a fever) beginning 4-5 days following initial exposure. This shocking report shows that infectious disease experts have already pre-tested Ebola as a bioweapon – and here is the key part of the report – “as a foundation for testing vaccines and therapeutics.”

The tests were conducted in 2012 by investigators at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, Fort Detrick, Maryland [Viruses (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23202456) Oct 15, 2012] the very same bioweapons center where an engineered anthrax bacterium was genetically traced back to in the crisis following the 9-11 terrorist attacks. A similar test was performed by scientists at the same military bioweapons center in 1995. [International Journal Experimental Pathology (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7547435) Aug 1995]

It appears the heightened outbreak of Ebola in Central Africa actually emanated from cutbacks in public health funds directed toward control of the disease, not from the disease mutating into a more virulent form. Was this pre-planned?

A shortage of doctors in regions of Central Africa has also been blamed on the spread of Ebola. [ZeroHedge.com (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-06/doctor-who-discovered-ebola-1976-fears-unimaginable-tragedy)]

Interestingly, two drug/vaccine makers developing therapeutic agents against the Ebola virus receive funding, not from the Centers For Disease Control, not from the National Institutes of Health, not from the World Health Organization, but from the US Department of Defense which has pre-tested Ebola in the animal lab as a terrorist bioweapon, not as a preventive vaccine. [CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/qa-experimental-treatments.html) Aug 29, 2014]

[B]Professor exposes the plot
In an outspoken article published in The Liberian Observer by Dr. Cyril Broderick, a former professor of plant pathology at the University of Liberia’s College of Agriculture, the pharmaceutical industry and the US Department of Defense are fingered as conspirators in a plot to intentionally spread Ebola to provoke public demand to use unproven vaccines and drug as rescue remedies.

Professor Broderick notes reports that the US Department of Defense funded Ebola trials on humans just prior to the Ebola outbreak in Guinea and Sierra Leone. In his letter addressed to all “world citizens,” Professor Broderick pleads for everyone to “please stand up to stop Ebola testing and the spread of this dastardly disease.” [Liberian Observer (http://www.liberianobserver.com/security/ebola-aids-manufactured-western-pharmaceuticals-us-dod) Sept 9, 2014]

Malnutrition as another cause
As millions of people around the world die of preventable infectious disease due to malnutrition (PLoS Medicine (http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0040115) May 2007] public health authorities now focus their efforts on a single transmissible disease that kills an average about 40 people a year – the Ebola virus.

Stop the world – for Ebola
Inflating the priority of their own interests, over 40 public health officials and infectious disease specialists have written an open letter to European governments, locked up in a financial crisis of their own, to stop everything and “urge governments to mobilize all possible resources” in the control of “this horrific epidemic.” [The Lancet (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS0140-6736%2814%2961611-1/fulltext) Oct 4, 2014]

Stopping Ebola has now become a worldwide priority even though it has been confined to Central and West Africa for decades. United Nations health officials describe it as “likely the greatest peacetime challenge the United Nations has ever faced.” [LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-africa-united-nations-ebola-20140918-story.html), Sept 18, 2014]

The discoverer of the Ebola virus, Peter Piot, says “In 1976 I discovered Ebola – now I fear an unimaginable tragedy.” [Guardian UK (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak?CMP=twt_gu) Oct 4, 2014]

For unexplained reasons this outbreak of the Ebola virus is said to be far greater than prior regional epidemics in 1976 (Sudan, Congo), 1995 (Congo), 2000 (Uganda) and 2007 (Uganda, Congo). [New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/31/world/africa/ebola-virus-outbreak-qa.html?_r=0) Oct 7, 2014] The current Ebola epidemic in Central and West Africa began in December of 2013.

Despite the fact that over the past 38 years since Ebola virus infection was first diagnosed less than 2000 have died from it over that time span, a report issued by National Public Radio says Ebola is currently growing by exponential numbers. [NPR (http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/09/18/349341606/why-the-math-of-the-ebola-epidemic-is-so-scary) Sept 18, 2014]

So why is Ebola virus being researched at all given its relatively low incidence? An article published in Canadian Medical Association Journal provides the answer: “Fears that Ebola could be turned into a bio-weapon. A spokesperson for one vaccine maker says: “Were there not a perceived need to protect against an Ebola outbreak being spread around the world as a bioterrorist weapon I don’t think anyone would be3 where we are now.” Another public health officer says: “If public health need was the absolute driver we would be absolutely nowhere because frankly not too many people were getting sick with Ebola.” [Canadian Medical Association Journal (http://www.cmaj.ca/site/earlyreleases/2oct14_Ebola-research-fueled-by-bioterrorism-threat.xhtml) Oct 2, 2014]

Ironically, the only entity that has the technology and funding to develop a weaponized from of Ebola virus is the US biodefense conglomerate comprised of industry virologists and military bioweapons experts, not any rogue group of terrorists who are likely to kill themselves experimenting with such a deadly virus. The US has spent $79 billion on so-called biodefense since 2001.

[B]What happened to quarantine?
The lack of quarantine has been criticized widely. Why does it seem like public health officials are allowing travelers from Africa to travel without a health check? However, closing borders to quarantine large populations of people may not be practical says an article in Time Magazine. [Time Magazine (http://time.com/3475106/ebola-country-borders-new-isolationsism/) Oct 6, 2014] Yet tried-and-true methods of walling-off Ebola via quarantine and confinement has worked at the Firestone rubber plantation in Liberia. [Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberian-rubber-farm-becomes-sanctuary-against-ebola-1412629331?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories) Oct 6, 2014] There’s no money in quarantine efforts.

Transmission of Infectious Disease During Air Travel
Getting back to the issue of airborne transmission: Tom Frieden, M.D., Director of Centers for Disease Control, said “at this point there is zero risk of transmission of Ebola on air flight. It does not spread from someone who doesn’t have fever or other symptoms.” [USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/ebola-flights-screening-travel-airlines/16527697/) Oct 1, 2014] Thirty-eight years of Ebola virus says that statement is true. But maybe not if the deadly Ebola virus is being purposefully weaponized and instilled into an airplane cabin or airport by a terrorist. And maybe that terrorist isn’t wearing a towel on his head. The only organization with the knowledge of how to spread Ebola is the US Department of Defense.

The transmission of viruses during commercial air travel has been demonstrated to be a potential health threat. [The Lancet (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2805%2971089-8/abstract) March 12, 2005]

Ebola can spread by aerosol transmission and also by direct contact with blood, mucus or other fluids from an infected person. Ebola can cause hemorrhagic fever. These viruses have long incubation periods, making infected passengers initially symptom-free and unaware that they are infected at the time of travel even though they can spread a disease by droplet transmission. These droplets are created by infected persons when they cough, sneeze or speak and the droplets are propelled up to 3 feet and deposited on a susceptible host’s eyes or mucous membranes. Other infectious diseases that can be transmitted during air flight: Tuberculosis, SARS, the common cold, influenza, meningococcal disease, measles, Salmonella, Cholera, smallpox, and others. So Ebola is not completely removed from the list of transmissible disease during air flight. It has been widely reported that 35 countries are one air flight away from Ebola-affected countries. [Quartz (http://qz.com/242388/here-are-all-the-35-countries-one-flight-away-from-ebola-affected-countries/) July 30, 2014]

A disturbing report describes a laboratory where Ebola-infected pigs were placed in a room with monkeys separated by a wire barrier from monkeys, yet the monkeys got sick even though there was no contact with blood, tears, sweat or other airborne vectors. [Scientific Reports (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3498927/) Nov 2012]

Way back in 1999 in the Journal of Infectious Diseases researchers working for the Centers For Disease Control (CDC) reported on a scary outbreak of Ebola virus in the Congo. Some hospital visitors who did not come in contact with Ebola-infected patients came down with hemorrhagic fever. These researchers concluded that casual contacts might spawn future epidemics. [Journal Infectious Disease (http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/179/Supplement_1/S1.full) Feb 1999]
Another frightening report was published in 1992 showing that Ebola virus among lab animals (monkeys) spread to other animals despite discontinuation of all direct contact with other animals and handlers of animals developed antibodies to the virus, meaning it had spread to humans! [Lab Animal Science (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1318446) April 1992] This suggests the virus can escape from the animal lab to humans though it also suggests it did not emanate into full-blown hemorrhagic disease in animal handlers in a well-fed population (Virginia, USA).

Ebola: the comparable risk
The viral infection is said to be incurable because there are no proven drugs or vaccines for it and it has a high mortality rate, over 50%. [World Health Organization (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/) Sept 2014] So the fear factor associated with Ebola outranks the pervasiveness of other more prevalent diseases such as tuberculosis and malaria.

For comparison, a worldwide infectious disease threat like the flu has a mortality rate ranging from 9-20 per 100,000 in a well-nourished US population which includes pneumonia (data published 2013) which is a mortality rate of less than one-tenth of one percent. [Kaiser Family Foundation (http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/influenza-and-pneumonia-death-rate/)] That is why Ebola virus is so dreaded.

Americans have a 2000-times greater chance of developing malaria [CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/facts.html)] and a 500-times greater risk from dying from tuberculosis [CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/TBTrends.htm) 2013] than they do Ebola but a survey reveals 40% of Americans believe there will be a large outbreak of Ebola virus in the U.S. But that same news report says the fear of Ebola “is not even close to the actual reality” and that an individual’s chance of getting Ebola in the developed world are “virtually zero.” [NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/why-are-americans-so-scared-ebola-n188806) Aug 26, 2014]

News media doubletalk
The news media actually dismisses itself for fomenting this unfounded fear. “Well, it might be our fault. Us, as in the news media” says a NBC report which quotes a risk communication expert to say the ongoing Ebola drama is “better than a zombie movie” with all of its mental pictures of blood pouring out of a hemorrhaging victim. The news media whips up the fear and then issues reports asking why is everyone so frightened. The news media is Big Pharma’s best friend.

Hey, in the news headline business it is well known “if it bleeds it leads.” Even on YouTube: “One drop of Ebola 12 million dead,” already viewed a half-million times online. [YouTube.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VR0Mz4lys)]

The news media revels in the hype knowing that fear of the spread of the disease attracts more readers and viewers which in turn further heightens the fear. The world is being drawn into a staged drama. Only this horror show is not make-believe like Halloween.

And now a CBS News report says there is a fear that some bio-terrorist is going to cross the southern border of the U.S. carrying a vial of Ebola virus [CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-some-shocking-ebola-fears-are-likely-unfounded/) Oct 6, 2014] and no mention of the thousands of illegal immigrants crossing the border every day with tuberculosis, whooping cough and hepatitis and enrolling their kids in public schools. [American Association Physicians & Surgeons (http://www.aapsonline.org/index.php/site/article/deadly_diseases_crossing_border_with_illegal_immigrants) June 25, 2014]

The news media is Big Pharma’s best friend
Researchers further exacerbate these misplaced fears knowing research funds for human trials of vaccines and drugs will gain rapid approval and be fast-tracked. [The Economist (http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21616888-hunt-ebola-medicines-being-accelerated-fast-tracking-treatments) Sept 13, 2014; New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26172-who-fasttracks-use-of-experimental-drugs-for-ebola.html#.VDQKbxa0eQc) Sept 9, 2014]

The dead bodies piled high in Central Africa are for sure but most of these deaths are more likely the result of tuberculosis, malaria or Marburg virus.

Since the symptoms of Ebola and malaria are similar, it could be that many of the reported cases of Ebola are nothing more than malaria. In fact, among two patients placed in isolation in Washington DC-area hospitals, 1 had malaria.

As of October 1 the CDC had looked into 100 Ebola scares in 33 states and tested the blood of 15 possible Ebola patients and found only one patient who tested positive, the Liberian man who flew from Africa to Texas and was infected prior to his visit to the US. [WJLA-TV ABC News Affiliate (http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/possible-ebola-patient-in-isolation-at-d-c-s-howard-university-hospital-107754.html) Oct 4, 2014] He has now succumbed to the virus.

Misdiagnosis of Ebola
The confirmation of a diagnosis of Ebola is very specious.

The Centers For Disease Control publishes a list of diagnostic tests for Ebola. [CDC.gov (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/diagnosis/#modalIdString_CDCTable_0)] Definitive diagnosis rests on isolation of the virus by means of tissue culture in a lab dish or a sophisticated test known as reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) assay.

However, isolation of Ebola virus in tissue culture is a high-risk procedure that can be performed safely only in a few high-containment laboratories throughout the world. [MedScape (http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/216288-workup)]

Furthermore, reporter Jon Rappoport in his excellent interview of the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, quotes Mullis to say: “Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron.” [Jon Rappoport (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/the-ebola-test-let-the-tests-inventor-speak/)] PCR testing produces questionable diagnoses.

Diagnosis of this viral disease is also confirmed by indirect blood markers (elevated interleukin-6 or tumor necrosis factor – IL-6 and TNF) that are commonly elevated in other diseases as well. Malaria also increases IL-6 and TNF. [Malaria Journal (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25128199) Aug 16, 2014]

Meanwhile a company in Japan is said to have developed a quicker Ebola test that within 30 minutes will diagnose this deadly virus. [IBTimes.com (http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-outbreak-japan-develops-30-minute-simpler-test-quickly-diagnose-deadly-virus-1675502) Sept 2, 2014]

Why has Ebola spread outside its geographical center?
In 38 years since the discovery of the Ebola virus in Central Africa this disease has never escaped its equatorial geographic zone but we are now led to believe it has killed more inside of a year than the prior 3+ decades and has escaped from Africa via airline travel to become a global health threat.

Ebola is now being called an inevitable transcontinental pandemic based upon two cases (a nurse who cared for an Ebola patient in Spain and an infected man who flew from Africa to Texas), as if this never happened before. In 38 years no one with Ebola virus in their bloodstream has ever traveled by air to a foreign land? News reports now say Ebola will spread from West Africa to France and beyond within days. [Daily Mail UK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2781667/Ebola-hit-UK-three-weeks-Scientists-warn-50-chance-virus-spread-here.html) Oct 5, 2014] This is absurd.

Experimental vaccines proven long ago
Effective Ebola vaccines are not new. Experimental vaccines were shown in 1980, 2000 and 2001 to be effective against Ebola virus in monkeys. [Lancet (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6108462) Dec 13, 1980; Nature (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v408/n6812/full/408605a0.html) Nov 30, 2000; Bulletin World Health Organization (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11217674) Nov 5, 2001] But just how do you prove them safe and effective in human trials?

The problem is that vaccines are a little bit of the disease itself. They may cause vaccine-induced disease since they contain a weakened form of Ebola virus or segment of the virus. Vaccination with an unproven vaccine could result in a horrific outbreak of deadly Ebola, worse than the Ebola virus in a given population. That is the risk posed by these vaccines.

For example, if you live in Africa the threat of polio from the polio vaccine is now greater than the polio virus in circulation. [Morbidity & Mortality Weekly Report (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6111a4.htm) March 23, 2012; Weekly Epidemiological Record (http://www.who.int/wer/2012/wer8738.pdf?ua=1), WHO, Vol. 87, No. 38, 2012]

Oddly, over a decade ago an “extremely promising” experimental DNA Ebola virus vaccine was reportedly tested in humans using modified, inactivated genes. [New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/19/us/test-of-an-experimental-ebola-vaccine-begins.html) Nov 19, 2003] This appears to be the same vaccine that was declared safe and effective in a human trial among healthy (non-infected) adults in 2006. [Clinical & Vaccine Immunology (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16988008) Nov 2006] The developer of that vaccine worked for the federal government’s Vaccine Research Center at the National Institutes of Health and a decade later accepted a position with a major pharmaceutical firm just about the same time the Big Pharma joined forces with the World Health Organization to tackle ten neglected tropical diseases. [ScienceMag.org Nov 15, 2012] This move reflects the revolving door between government and commercial enterprise.

Remember, efforts to quell the Ebola virus are to prevent just 40 deaths a year. It’s possible the vaccine could cause more disease and death than the natural disease. It’s more likely that efforts to improve nutrition and public hygiene would be more successful than mass vaccination. But don’t mention that to Wall Street that is banking on the stocks of vaccine makers to soar now. [The Motley Fool (http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/10/01/why-ebola-vaccine-makers-stocks-soared.aspx) Oct 1, 2014]

Maybe you vaccinate and end up killing millions. Just like old drugs that have been found to work better than newer ones, maybe the newer vaccines are just versions of older serums being conjured up to develop patentable profits.

Natural immunity
Public health officials claim a person may have Ebola virus in their blood but it is only when it produces symptoms that it is contagious. [WebMD (http://www.webmd.com/news/20141006/how-get-ebola) Oct 6, 2014] There is some truth to this as apparently some people have Ebola virus in their blood circulation but don’t develop symptoms.

In fact, since the year 2000 it has been reported that some people infected with the Ebola virus do not develop symptoms. [New York Times June 26, 2000] This means they have developed antibodies to ward off the disease or their immune system blunts the symptoms. So it cannot be said that humans do not develop natural immunity to Ebola.

A surprisingly high proportion of the population in the African country of Gabon appear to exhibit immunity from Ebola. There are healthy carriers of Ebola in Gabon. It is suspected that bats are a source of food for some Africans and may facilitate a low-dose exposure of Ebola to the immune system among people in Gabon. [Research Institute For Development (http://en.ird.fr/the-media-centre/scientific-newssheets/337-possible-natural-immunity-to-ebola) Jan 2010] This means the human immune system is capable of warding off the disease even without a vaccine.

Nutraceuticals
It would be critically important for a successful trial of a drug or vaccine, forced onto the marketplace under the active threat of a pandemic, that no other alternatives be available. Plant-derived nutraceuticals have been proposed but remain untested. Nutraceuticals are inexpensive to produce and therefore can be used in developing countries. Natural remedies for Ebola have been mentioned.

The dietary supplement industry jumps on the bandwagon to sell its nostrums saying its herbs and vitamins prevent or cure the disease (and they do) while public health authorities say natural remedies are unproven and to wait and let people needlessly die till drug and vaccine manufacturers come up with their own elixirs.

The Food & Drug Administration has been quick to warn consumers away from any natural remedies for Ebola. [FDA.gov (http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm410086.htm)] In response the dietary supplement industry cowers and responds to the FDA by saying it discourages use of dietary supplements for nutritional support in the face of Ebola virus when natural products are the only alternative in a health crisis such as this. [New Hope (http://newhope360.com/breaking-news/industry-coalition-dietary-supplements-cant-cure-prevent-ebola?NL=NH-07&Issue=NH-07_20141008_NH-07_995&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_3) Oct 7, 2014]

There’s no vaccine. There’s no medicine. But good God, don’t dare try to use any natural remedies until we have some!

The illogic of the argument against natural remedies doesn’t hold. While it will be said that herbal remedies are unproven, what is being offered are existing or developmental drugs that will be used on an off-label or purely experimental basis. [PLoS One (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23577127) April 5, 2013; Wall St. Journal Oct 18, 2011]

Recognize, in a public health crisis there is no way public stockpiles of vaccines or antibiotics could possibly meet public demand. While public health authorities will likely warn the public away from natural remedies, they may be the only hope for the masses.

If there were a drug that worked to eradicate Ebola virus one should use it. However, there is no such drug or vaccine. It is a proven fact that malnutrition is linked to viral infections like Ebola. The typical seasonal shortage of food running from June through September in central Africa is a possible reason why the current Ebola virus outbreak has reached unprecedented levels. [Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/09/16/understanding-rainy-seasons-malnutrition-community-health-in-sierra-leone/) Sept 16, 2014]

In the midst of this Ebola outbreak public health authorities should be thinking “nutrition.” Instead they are thinking “vaccine deficiency,” “drug deficiency,” and how to raise the stock price of developmental drug and vaccine companies.

[B]Ebola and vitamin C
It has been said that Ebola virus infection produces many of the same symptoms as scurvy, particularly internal hemorrhages. Most animals except fruit bats, guinea pigs and primate monkeys internally produce their own vitamin C. It may not be a coincidence that fruit bats, primate monkeys and humans are the primary at-risk species for Ebola virus.

Fruit bats are considered a vector for transmission of Ebola, which further points to depletion of vitamin C as a factor in acquired infection. Monkeys also have been found to harbor Ebola virus, again pointing to vitamin C deficiency as a virulence factor. [Developmental Biology (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23689899) May 14, 2013; Biochemical Genetics (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23404229) June 2013] In fact, with each human outbreak of Ebola virus there have been thousands of accompanying deaths of gorillas in the wild in Africa. [Science (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17158318) Dec 8, 2006]

Humans are in the same genetic predicament as these animals. Due to a gene mutation that universally affected all of humanity long ago in human history, humans no longer synthesize vitamin C. [Medical Hypotheses (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/491997) June 1979] Supplemental vitamin C may be a primary agent to reduce mortality among individuals with any tropical disease including Ebola.

The Orthomolecular News Service has issued a protocol for dosing of vitamin C for any viral infection. It calls for mega-dose vitamin C in the active treatment of viruses. [Orthomolecular News Service (http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v10n13.shtml) Aug 20, 2014]

Selenium depletion by Ebola virus
Selenium depletion by Ebola virus has been proposed as an explanation for the massive internal hemorrhaging associated with this infection. An overlooked fact is that selenium plays a role in blood clotting. As the Ebola virus replicates it requires more and more selenium proteins thus inducing depletion of selenium from the host. Depletion of selenium by Ebola virus induces both an incompetent immune response and rapidly mutated viruses. When selenium is provided to animals with virus infection mutation rates diminish. [Biological Trace Element Research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21318622) Dec 2011] Zaire where Ebola virus first appeared has low soil levels of selenium. [Selenium Deficiency (http://www.drpasswater.com/nutrition_library/selenium_aids.html)]

[B]Estrogen cell receptor and Ebola
See comment in PubMed Commons below (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25276664#comments)
Among the proposed drug targets to quell Ebola is the estrogen receptor. Two estrogen receptor targeted drugs have been proposed but there are natural molecules that block the estrogen receptor, namely from lignans from flaxseed and resveratrol from grapes. [Science Translational Medicine (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23785035) June 19, 2013; Molecular Nutrition Food Research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19904759) March 2010; ELife (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24771768) April 25, 2014]

Cholesterol and Ebola
Two young children with a genetic cholesterol disorder (Niemann-Pick) where they are unable to produce sufficient amounts of cholesterol to supply cell surfaces have been declared resistant to contracting Ebola.

Department of Defense scientists actually took skin cells donated from kids who have this cholesterol disorder and tried to infect these cells with Ebola virus. The virus could not enter into the cells. [Science Daily (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110824192329.htm) Aug 24, 2011]

As background, viruses are not live and do not replicate on their own. Viruses require the genetic machinery of a living cell in order to multiply.

The young twin girls with the cholesterol disorder are also being treated with a common emulsifier used in drugs and dietary supplements that would theoretically block Ebola’s entry into living cells. Cyclodextrin has been shown to inhibit a respiratory virus. [AddiandCassi.com (http://addiandcassi.com/)] Various news reports have mentioned cyclodextrin as a preventive agent against Ebola virus. [Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970203658804576637042413942596) Oct 18, 2011]

Antioxidant combination
It has recently been reported that the combination of oral resveratrol, beta glucan and vitamin C work synergistically “as the strongest reducer of biological stress-related symptoms including IL-6.” [Molecules (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25255758) Sept 3, 2014] Vitamin D3 not only should be considered a primary anti-Ebola remedy because of its immune-boosting properties but also because it inhibits IL-6 and TNF, two blood markers of Ebola virus. [Age (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25086618) Aug 2014]

Natural anti-malarials
As many malaria-infected individuals are likely to be misdiagnosed as having Ebola, natural anti-malarials are of interest.

An interesting connection between the lost ability to self-heal from malaria and the amino acid taurine has been made. Mice deficient in taurine do not survive malaria. Taurine inhibits some of the common blood markers of Ebola virus including IL-6. [Infection Immunity (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20100858) April 2010]

In the animal lab vitamin D has been demonstrated to inhibit the occurrence of experimental cerebral malaria by suppressing the inflammatory response. [Journal Immunology (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24965778) Aug 1, 2014]

An antioxidant regimen consisting of vitamins C, E and glutathione has been shown to be helpful among patients with malaria. [Pakistan Journal Pharmaceutical Science (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21454156) April 2011]

Resveratrol
One of the indirect blood markers used help diagnose Ebola is interleukin-6 (IL-6). A strong IL-6 inhibitor is the red wine molecule resveratrol (res-vare-a-trol). Resveratrol also targets the estrogen receptor. [Scripps Institute (http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20140505/nettles.html)] Resveratrol works synergistically with vitamin D to optimize the immune response. [Molecular Nutrition Food Research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24039193) March 2014]

Garlic
A natural remedy that comes to mind that conquers all known viruses is garlic’s key molecule allicin. [Planta Medica (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1470664) Oct 1992]

Modern medicine is derelict in not putting allicin to a test against the Ebola virus. But Allicin has been successfully tested against malaria which most of the reported cases of Ebola are likely to be in reality.

The scientific literature shows that allicin from fresh-crushed garlic protects against acute malaria infection in laboratory animals. [Malaria Journal (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22873687) Aug 8, 2012] Allicin inhibits the parasite that causes malaria. The primary anti-malarial activity of garlic emanates from allicin. [Antimicrobial Agents & Chemotherapy (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16641443) May 2006]

Be aware, standard garlic pills do not yield allicin due to destruction of the enzyme that activates it by stomach acid. Alkalinized garlic capsules reliably yield allicin.

[B]Summary
The widely reported Ebola outbreak is overstated by health authorities and the news media. Malnutrition largely explains why Ebola virus has remained uniquely confined to central and western Africa. If Ebola escapes to other well-fed regions of the world it can only be sustained among those individuals who are immune compromised (smokers, diabetics, alcohol and drug abusers, immune suppressive drug users, infants and the very old).

If there is some sinister plot to intentionally expose the US population or any other human population for that matter to weaponized Ebola virus it will likely be foiled by good nutrition. Nutrition is to Big Pharma what a ring of garlic cloves is to Dracula.
The only entity that has advanced technology to spread Ebola is the bioweapons division of the US Department of Defense, not some towel-headed bio-terrorist. That is also where the anthrax bacterium was traced to in the aftermath of the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

Whether covert government operations exist to intentionally expose the American population to biological threats to put counter terrorist operations to the test will likely never be revealed. Whatever is going on, a giant mind control operation is currently underway as the current Ebola crisis is a massive fabrication on a worldwide scale.

In January of 2014 a US Depart of Defense-backed vaccine maker commenced a human trial of its Ebola vaccine among healthy adults. [Drugs.com (http://www.drugs.com/clinical_trials/tekmira-doses-first-subject-human-clinical-trial-tkm-ebola-16415.html) Jan 2014] But it needs Ebola-infected individuals to prove its vaccine works in an epidemic. Why is another major vaccine maker taking the unprecedented step of starting mass production of a vaccine that has also just commenced testing in humans? [Vox.com (http://www.vox.com/2014/9/18/6136637/why-we-should-manage-our-expectations-about-getting-an-ebola-virus-vaccine) Sept 18, 2014] All that’s needed for these investments to pay off is an “unexpected” outbreak of hemorrhagic Ebola virus infections to begin on US soil.

Will some overseas bioterrorist self-infect himself and jump on an airplane before a fever begins to develop and skip past airport health checks, then enter martyrdom by infecting others?

Or will the specific strain of Ebola virus be traced back to the US Army bioweapons lab at Ft. Detrick in Maryland like the weaponized anthrax bacterium that was spread through the US mail system and was cunningly directed at news sources (a tabloid paper in South Florida and NBC News in New York) as well as Congressional representatives and then blamed on an eccentric scientist in the laboratory there who had no motive to hush investigative sources who were delving into the events surrounding the 9-11 terrorist attacks?

According to surveys there is a growing body of Americans who believe that an Ebola attack is coming to America. The question is whether Americans will fall for the idea some lone terrorist inside some biological lab is capable of such a feat or whether a more sinister operation is underway by parties working on a larger scale. The current evidence points in the latter direction. As the late Dr. Stan Monteith frequently said: “America has the best enemies money can buy.” Can Americans face that truth? Maybe this time they can’t avoid it.

The Best of Bill Sardi (http://www.lewrockwell.com/author/bill-sardi/)

[avid]

However - all this new vaccine is hype-for-profit, and next-to-nothing on the efficacy of nano-silver (which was apparently blocked).
It would be more interesting to cut the BigPharma hype to the basics, and just let us see what nano-silver actually does.
Please let us do real open and honest trials with the non-profitmaking nano-silver, and any other plausible combatant of this virus. It's like watching economic-vultures circling over an evil brew. Brew your own, and share it in your locality. Eat loads of fresh fruit, and never have vaccinations.

[Atlas]

Let it be solved, not played down.

I'd rather 'play down' Ebola and its 2,000 deaths per decade than just forget about HIV/AIDS and its 1 million deaths per year...

[Bob]

The bioweapons question - it's not stopped despite a treaty being signed.. The method to do "research" is to plaster it around "vaccine development" to protect the troops.. Not to protect the People..

The genetic splicing of monkey pox, or small pox, or any other pox into a filovirus, such as Marburg or Ebola IS being done. In my post 649 above, it is described as being used in certain vaccines, where the "pox" chosen has a relatively low chance of harming humans (but may be devastating to other primates). Post 653 explains some of the bioweapons, of which Ebola is one of them as is Marburg, both filoviri.

The idea behind allowing a bioweaponized version with a different component means increasing infectivity while allowing the main component "weapon" to remain relatively hidden within the infected carrier. One vector other than a POX being used is Equine Encephalitis (the Venezuelan strain is particularly excellent as a carrier) - there HAVE been recent outbreaks of that, WHY?

This noise on Ebola only punctuates the ultra-insidious bioweapons issues.

To add the noise to stop looking at Ebola is to force feed the public with ludicrous "burn-out" attempts to not pay attention to the MAIN THREAT which not only exists, it is being developed and refined. One thinks vaccines are insidious, so everyone goes to the fence to look through the hole and gets poked in the eye, and attention STAYS focused on the vaccines, the big pharma making $$ or WHATEVER distraction will sufficiently get MSM and the people to focus on it. Ebola is convenient right now because people are watching..

THE GOAL of the bioweapons military mindset is to do what is needed to distract, to look the other way, where the bioweapons are worked on. That is why they call their actions MITIGATION EFFORTS..

That is STEERING.. with known predictable outcome and apparent SOLUTION - (usually SEE, NOTHING TO SEE HERE... is the blather).

The list described in the post above, #653 (weapon) and #649 (countermeasure) IS what the major bioweapons developers and THREAT reduction Agencies across the world ARE doing.. That is where the attention needs focus on, Ebola is convenient now for the political button AND steering, and it is in-fact deadly. What has been pointed out are some of the ways it is being used, to bring more monitoring and more controls, and how it is being used POLITICALLY as a convenient platform and football.. It could easily be a resistant form of D68 affecting our children.. (but apparently there was not enough psychological warfare possible with the D68...)

The solution has been and AGAIN, pointing this out when it has been told that there are about a handful of simple pills which are 100% effective anti-virals, there is no need for vaccines, nor any other "treatment".. These same anti-virals cure HIV and Hepatitis, which work on filoviri - Taking such a pill when any symptoms appear means one could have in-vivo-vaccination, or whatever virus ails ya, your body will make its own needed antibodies, just as if you were naturally immune.. (that is what naturally immune means by the way, you developed your own anti-bodies through some form of earlier infection)....


And again that gets buried with useless statistical data.. interesting eh?



Lets keep the silver discussion to the silver thread :)

Reference to EEV -
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/233913-overview - Venezuelan equine encephalitis

A 1995 outbreak of Venezuelan equine encephalitis in Colombia and Venezuela affected an estimated 75,000 humans; 3000 people developed neurologic complications, and 300 fatalities occurred. Of the estimated 50,000 equines infected, 8% died of the disease. This was the first major epidemic of Venezuelan equine encephalitis in 22 years.

EEV is a PRIME CHOICE for gene splicing in a filovirus PAYLOAD.. That then ups the "ebola-filovirus" infection potential - MUTATION or GENE SPLICED WEAPON.

TO downplay BIOWEAPONS developments is not in the best interests of humanity.

[Roisin]

Akron Mayor Don Plusquellic wants to keep Ebola patients out of Summit County hospitals

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AKRON, Ohio — Mayor Don Plusquellic said Friday he wants medical teams on standby to transport any Northeast Ohio residents who show symptoms of Ebola to specialty hospitals out of state.

Plusquellic's idea is at odds with Summit County Public Health Medical Director Dr. Margo Erme, who got into a heated discussion with Plusquellic on South High Street Friday before a scheduled appearance on CNN. Plusquellic canceled his planned appearance but spoke with the Northeast Ohio Media Group shortly after.

Plusquellic said he reached out to U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan about the plan. Michael Zetts, a spokesman for Ryan, said the congressman fully supports Plusquellic's plan and is pushing for more assistance in Northeast Ohio.

"CDC changed it's opinion on what it takes to contract the virus," Plusquellic told NEOMG. "If the CDC can't say 'Here's what you need to protect yourself, and it's an absolute,' then I really don't want anyone here involved with anyone that has Ebola. I know that's a crass statement to make, but if we can avoid it and it can go to a place with a better understanding of Ebola, then it's better off."

Erme said she believes the 16 Northeast Ohio residents who had contact with Ebola patient Amber Joy Vinson, who spent the weekend in the Akron are, are safe here and that area hospitals are prepared to treat anyone who show symptoms of Ebola.
http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2014/10/akron_mayor_wants_medical_team.html
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MORE THAN 100 MONITORED FOR EBOLA SYMPTOMS IN OHIO; OBAMA OPPOSES CUTTING OFF WEST AFRICA

More than 100 monitored for Ebola symptoms in Ohio

Health officials in Ohio are monitoring more than 100 people following the visit by a Dallas nurse who tested positive for Ebola shortly after returning to Texas from the Cleveland area.

Officials said Saturday that none of those being monitored are sick.

State officials previously said 16 people Amber Vinson had contact with were being monitored. Officials say the sharp increase is a result of the identification of airline passengers who flew with Vinson between Dallas and Cleveland and the identification of people who also visited the dress shop where her bridesmaids were trying on dresses.

Vinson's stepfather is quarantined in his home in the Akron suburb of Tallmadge. That is where Vinson stayed during her visit.

The stepfather is the only person in the state under such a restriction.

http://7online.com/health/more-than-100-monitored-for-ebola-symptoms-in-ohio;-obama-opposes-cutting-off-west-africa-/351170/

[Chanlo23]

Let it be solved, not played down.
I'd rather 'play down' Ebola and its 2,000 deaths per decade than just forget about HIV/AIDS and its 1 million deaths per year...


I would rather talk about AIDS/HIV deaths on a different thread. No one is advocating 'forgetting' HIV/AIDS deaths - despite 2012 WHO statistics revealing that HIV/AIDS deaths are steadily shrinking (see: http://www.who.int/gho/hiv/epidemic_status/deaths_text/en/. A thread about HIV/AIDS should be talking about issues related to that.

I don't advocate 'playing down' or forgetting any disease or condition that can kill me or those I love. I advocate getting as many facts as possible and quoting the WHO 2012 stats on Ebola deaths is more than a 'day late and a dollar short'.

Two recent predictions are far more relevant:

http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/1-2-million-ebola-deaths-projected-in-6-months/ An econometric simulation model based on the assumption the World Health Organization and others will be unable to control the Ebola outbreak in West Africa predicts 1.2 million people will die from the disease in the next six months. 1.2 Mililon people in 6months is relevant.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2753421/Real-risk-Ebola-virus-mutate-AIRBORNE-disease-expert-warns.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2753421/Real-risk-Ebola-virus-mutate-AIRBORNE-disease-expert-warns.html) Oxford University scientists created a new map showing the places most at risk of an Ebola outbreak and predicting up to 22 million people could be at risk.


And, with potential ebola cases running around on cruise ships, flying back and forth across the country picking up wedding dresses, university students getting exposed on airplanes, etc. -- more and more folks are potentially being put at risk by the lets-not-think-about-that-mentality and the lets-quote-outdated-stats-mentality. Granted, these folks are being put on watch lists and voluntary quarantine, but/and not even that would be happening if there were not a REAL outbreak.

[Atlas]

The outbreak is real but the deaths count is peanut compared to HIV/AIDS. Just do the math. And predictions are nothing more than just that, predictions. By the way, I wouldn't trust the predictions of a tabloid not even for one penny. Re-quoting Amzer Zo previous post:




Americans have a 2000-times greater chance of developing malaria [CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/facts.html)] and a 500-times greater risk from dying from tuberculosis [CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/statistics/TBTrends.htm) 2013] than they do Ebola but a survey reveals 40% of Americans believe there will be a large outbreak of Ebola virus in the U.S. But that same news report says the fear of Ebola “is not even close to the actual reality” and that an individual’s chance of getting Ebola in the developed world are “virtually zero.” [NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/why-are-americans-so-scared-ebola-n188806) Aug 26, 2014]

[Bob]

Summary from Previous Page (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=889974&viewfull=1#post889974) - and some updates


Anti-virals exist that are not vaccines, have broad spectrum ability to deal with HIV/Hepatitis/FiloViri (i.e. Ebola, Marburg) - that is the alternative to vaccines
Vaccines for filoviri are being now released by Canada to the WHO - vaccines developed by UK are still in testing stages, Vaccines developed by NIH are in testing stages
Up to 1000 people are under observation or some in quarantine, either mandatory or voluntary
Frontier Airlines feels it is IMPORTANT to take apart the deep pile, or seat coverings, or carpet in the JET plane, having used a gaseous disinfectant TOO - if they wern't concerned they would have simply ignored the issue, instead they know the situation and took proper steps for decontamination.
Bioweapons issue, and creating a "partial vaccine" and the dangers of viral strain amplification
Reiteration of current statistics verses using OLD data - prediction of deaths, and spread data, verses apparent distortion of data


Useful post detailing errors in published CDC data (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=889614&viewfull=1#post889614) dealing with improper protection against Ebola

Useful post explaining "diversion" or stale data being used in agency reports, or misinformation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=889002&viewfull=1#post889002) leading to improper procedures being performed - - psyops(?) possibly an attempt to block understanding and education.

Airline contacts 800 passengers; Belize blocks travel


This week, a Central American country closed its borders to anyone who has been anywhere near the disease.

And an airline scrambled to inform hundreds passengers that they had been on a plane that carried someone who has since come down with Ebola.

When U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry asked the government of Belize to help evacuate a Dallas hospital worker from a cruise ship off its coast on Friday, officials declined to let her on shore.

and saying it about as clearly as possible, Mr. President Obama has upgraded his statement to now include, a travel ban for incoming passengers is NOT off the table, (and can be implemented) - that being the case, the seriousness is ramping upwards despite attempts by naysayers to sway opinion. Politically the travel ban and the naysayer spin is being used as the football to apparently insist that a travel ban for incoming be pushed one way or the other.. (as have other nations (http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Africa-stems-Ebola-via-border-closings-luck-20141016-13) used and have apparently succeeded in preventing any incoming infected passenger.. closing borders appears to work at least in Africa with this CURRENT outbreak - as is done quarantine is the effective first level measure, educate, and treat where possible, and disinfect where possible).

"The State Department wanted to fly her (the lab supervisor) back to the United States -- purely out of caution -- from Belize City's airport.

"Instead, the cruise ship is hauling her back to Galveston. "

Shutting down the travel expectations of all the passengers on the ship to Belize and Mexico.

"On top of the no-go, Belize's government has slapped visa and travel bans this week on (ALL) citizens of affected West African countries and announced more strict measures.

"Also, any person of whatever nationality wishing to travel to Belize who has visited any affected area of West Africa within the last 30 days will be prohibited from entering Belize," the government said in a statement on Friday."

(multiple sources and source (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/18/health/us-ebola/))

A network source is reporting that Nurse Amber did use Tylenol (a fever reducing agent) when the headaches started, so it can be assumed that the reported temperatures were not accurate prior to flight time. CDC therefore is saying Vinson flew to Cleveland on October 10 and back to Dallas on October 13, and she could have had symptoms during that time.

CDC says they want to talk with those who were on the flight. Nothing to see? - they think there is something to be alert about and want to talk to the passengers.

[Bob]

Why the worry 'down on the farm' about bioweapons,

hmm..

Well you know that 'thorn' in many administrations' a side called Iran... way back when as treaties were being signed, to prevent bioweapons developments, chemical weapons development and y'all know down on the farm, despite treaties, rebranding was happening all across the board.. developing "solutions" to the weapons means finding counter-measures, and of course for a counter-measure the "real thing" needs to be there, so the agencies say to one another.. simulants just don't cut it the developers say.

Now back in 1998 an article appeared, paraphrasing a bit" Unemployed Russian Scientists trained in nuclear, biological, and chemical Sciences Wanted - will Pay Well..


MOSCOW -- Iran is scouring the former Soviet Union to hire scientists who once worked in laboratories tied to Moscow's vast germ warfare program and has succeeded in recruiting some of them to take jobs in Teheran, according to Russian scientists and American officials.

Iranian officials who report directly to the leadership of the Islamic state have approached dozens of scientists who once made germ weapons, offering as much as $5,000 a month to people who earn far less than that a year in the increasingly chaotic Russian economy.

"In interviews in Russia and neighboring Kazakhstan, more than a dozen former germ warriors reported contacts with Iran, and two said they had been asked specifically to help Tehran make biological weapons. "

Remember the words "research conducted for purely peaceful purposes" can be applied to mean, "must have the weapons themselves to see how a countermeasure to ensure peace (when they win fighting back)".. The whole ball game is a play on words, where those down on the farm, know exactly what is going on and why.. to protect the mindset of the People, who simply cannot handle the truth, a plausible explanation must be concocted to lend credibility to conspiracy buffs, divert attention away from investigative inquiries, and funnel the needed resources into appropriate countermeasures to handle the threat.


"It's often hard to distinguish between a drug and a weapon, or between offensive or defensive research," said Lev Sandakhchiev, the director of the state laboratory known as Vector, which made deadly viruses for weapons in Soviet times. "What counts is intent. And that complicates trust."

American officials say Tehran's recruiting successes are troubling because they suggest that the people who were crucial to the once-secret Soviet germ weapons program, which at its height employed some 70,000 scientists and technicians, are in danger of being lured

"American officials assert that Tehran's biowarfare program may have already turned some germs and toxins into weapons, but they have scant information on Iran's progress." And that was in 1998.. And since then and up through present time, now, we see "demonstrations" of infectious agents, here-to-fore lying obscure in the biolab or in an off-spot isolated from the rest of civilization.. Odd? Not really, not when bioweapons programs are ongoing worldwide..

When some of the older scientists realized what was happening, overtly they refused. BUT that didnt stop Tehran from bombarding many of the younger scientists incessantly, to COME TO IRAN TO TEACH.. They used the ego to try to recruit, teach and explain to us, show us how smart you are.. The older Russian scientists had said one of the key interests of Tehran was to learn how to develop a genetic weapon able to target specific races of humans.. Russian scientists had been developing many forms of Genetically modified organisms and crops - some of the research was about learning how to put TOXINS into food sources, plants, so that they would gradually kill the Enemy - (sound familiar out there with GMO's in the guise of improving food?) - putting foreign proteins into a plant which can then create TARGET MOLECULES for virues to go after is a PERFECT WEAPON..

Connect the dots yet with GMO, VIRUSES (selective triggered 'outbreaks') and the manufactures of such, where such has been and is continuing to be developed?


It is now known that the Soviet Union built the most pestilential biological arsenal of all time. At the program's peak, Russian and Western experts say, scientists at scores of sites studied some 50 biological agents and prepared a dozen or so for war. Bombers and intercontinental missiles were ready to disseminate hundreds of tons of smallpox, plague and anthrax, enough to wipe out entire nations.

Many of these biological agents were developed and tested at Vector, formally the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology, which made deadly viruses in Siberia; the State Research Center for Applied Microbiology, or Obolensk, near Moscow, where lethal bacteria were perfected and Stepnogorsk, a sprawling germ factory in Kazakhstan, which specialized in deadly anthrax.

This proud scientific elite was part of a culture that had a deep historic distrust of Islamic regimes, which threatened to undermine the Soviet empire. Thus, any current Iranian successes are all the more striking.

Since the collapse of Soviet Communism, these scientific centers, as well as far smaller ones, have seen their operating budgets slashed and research money disappear. But institute directors say they have fought to keep their top scientific talent intact, dismissing junior scientists and technical workers instead.

Yet, even top scientists have been tempted to sell their expertise.

DO I believe that such is happening? Indeed I do. Do you think I was asked to go teach? What do you think?

more reading here (http://www.nytimes.com/learning/teachers/featured_articles/19981209wednesday.html)

[Bob]

What do you do with the 4400 some odd people all in a closed restricted environment, on a cruise ship at sea? Let them all go away when the ship docks Sunday back in Galveston Texas? Cruise ships in the past have been noted for being able to spread NoroVirus (http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm) between the passengers.

So the lab supervisor that possibly was exposed to some of Mr. Duncan's specimens "apparently" as is being reported by the Ship company, apparently is not exhibiting symptoms..the question mathematically arises are they sure? Is that the case in this variant of the virus Ebola? She will be clear in the 21 days about when the Ship docks, but could the infection have been presented due to a possible contact situation?

If there were no worry, no concern they wouldn't be landing a helicopter on the ship to get specimen samples from the supervisor..

They have to consider if something changed with the virus.. could potentially there be more people who contacted the supervisor while she was doing the things one does on a Cruise ship? What was her itinerary, another big question to ask.. The people @ the ship's HQ say, no problem, nothing to see here.. She is fine.. But a chopper is getting samples.. Why is that? For a supposedly non-existent virus some interesting steps are happening..

Why the helicopter landing on a Cruise Ship at sea?

Fascinating observations afoot..


A helicopter landed aboard a cruise ship Saturday to pick up a blood sample from a passenger who may have handled fluids from an Ebola patient, ahead of the Carnival Magic’s planned docking at Galveston, Texas, Sunday.

Carnival said Texas health officials requested that a sample be taken from the passenger and tested, but that the ship is still scheduled to arrive Sunday morning. The company said of the passenger, who is in quarantine, that “she’s feeling absolutely fine.”

The passenger is a lab supervisor at Texas Presbyterian Health Hospital in Dallas, where Liberian Thomas Eric Duncan was treated for Ebola and died on Oct. 8. Two nurses who treated Duncan at that hospital have since tested positive for the disease.

The employee on the cruise ship, who set sail on Oct. 12, did not have “direct contact” with Duncan himself, Carnival has said. Still, amid worries about the disease Mexican officials would not grant the ship clearance to make a scheduled stop at Cozumel on Friday afternoon.


(source (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/chopper-lands-blood-sample-ebola-cruise-scare-n228926))

[Bob]

"We are able to confirm that the (Ebola) test was negative," Galveston County Health Authority spokesman Kurt Koopman said in an e-mail.


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When the cruise left from Galveston on Oct. 12, the woman had only been required to "self-monitor" for fever or other Ebola symptoms. The woman, who has not been named, at no point showed signs of the virus and was considered asymptomatic, the Coast Guard said.

The US Coast Guard used a helicopter to fly to the ship Saturday for collecting blood samples which were run through "rapid screening" (hmm), to prove she was clear and that ALL passengers could enter the US.


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CONTRASTS

The HAVES -

http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-460/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/10/18/1413651220990/3b14cc66-3f0e-4b16-ba79-edf4b51f820d-460x276.jpeg

and

The image below is of a family member who died in Monrovia, Liberia - the relatives are peering in from the outside - (the HAVE NOTS)


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2000-2003 shows cyclic peaking in Africa and Cruise ships, there is a lag, but apparently, there is some sort of cycle present


The early years Ebola statistic for Africa - currently this year, 2014, close to 4500 deaths


http://chanlo.com/images/outbreak-1.jpg

What does it mean? Close quarters, ease of transportation, groups of people together are more likely to spread infections between each other?

Belize and Mexico said NO - won't risk it, not from a cruise ship - was their choice based on emotional or statistical data?

[Bob]

Are Dogs who have closely contacted a person (in close quarters) able to harbour Ebola-Zaire virus?


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Spain seemed to think so and put the infected nurses' dog to death without any quarantine or study.

Those in the US, Dallas Texas have decided compassion is something better, not wanting to just arbitrarily terminate the little dog, but to study it a bit to understand the nature of canines possibly harbouring the virus in an un-presenting manner (at least for the dog)..

Is this close contact?


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the King Charles Spaniel named Bentley will be tested for any sign of the Ebola virus.

"At this time, this specimen collection process is only expected to happen three times within the remainder of the quarantine period," Dallas Animal Services said in a statement released on Sunday. "This is the least invasive and safest way to conduct the testing process for Bentley."

Bentley was seized from Pham's apartment on October 11 and is being quarantined at the Hensley Field Services Center on West Jefferson Avenue.

CDC says it has no data, can canines harbour the virus and not present it. This study will provide a very general non-statistically significant measure about what may determine Bentley's future..

[Bob]

Coming out of quarantine - Spain and Texas

Source (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/clear-contacts-ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-near-milestone-n229341) and Source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29683616)

Spanish nurse tests negative for virus - Ms Romero has been treated at Carlos III hospital in Madrid, and was reportedly given a human serum containing antibodies from Ebola survivors.

A government statement on Sunday said that a blood test appeared to show that the virus was no longer in her body.

She would be given a second test overnight, the statement said, adding that her health was "developing favourably".

Fifteen other people, including Ms Romero's husband, remain under observation in quarantine, but have not shown any symptoms so far, the hospital said.


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36 people who had contact with the original Ebola patient in Dallas, Thomas Duncan, will complete a three-week watch period on Monday with no sign any of them has contracted the virus — a watershed in the fight to contain the disease in the United States. Two nurses are still infected in the US, getting treatment in specialty hospitals designed to handle class-4 pathogens.

After the isolation window closes, Troh and her children will spend a few more days at a temporary residence, then move to a new rental home in the Dallas area, said Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, who is heading the local Ebola response. Donors are paying for the family’s new home and hope to replace belongings that had to be destroyed in the cleanup process.

Troh’s daughter, Youngor Jallah, is among the group whose three-week watch period will end Sunday. Jallah, a nurse’s assistant who took Duncan’s vital signs, has stayed in an apartment she shares with her partner and their children, according to The Associated Press.

“I'm telling you, just to step outside will be so great,” she told The AP. “To hug my mom and grieve for Eric, not over the phone like we’ve been doing, but in the flesh.”

Troh’s family is among the first wave of people who had contact with an Ebola-infected person to finish the three weeks. Others, such as those who had contact with the two nurses, won't finish their quarantine for days.

“We are looking forward to Monday morning, when (the) first wave of 48 contacts and potential contacts will no longer be monitored for Ebola.."


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Dr. Mitchell Levy, father of Ashoka Mukpo, talks Thursday about his son's improving condition after contracting Ebola. His son is receiving treatment in Nebraska, having received serum from Dr Brantly, who amazingly keeps on giving to help those stricken - when their blood type matches. (Source (http://www.providencejournal.com/news/health/20141016-ashoka-mukpo-ebola-patient-from-r.i.-making-remarkable-recovery-says-dad.ece))


Yesterday was the first day I actually heard him say, ‘Dad, I feel like I’m out of the woods.’ All of his labs now are completely normal,” Levy said, and when Levy speaks with his son’s physicians in Nebraska, “most of what we talk about is when he’ll come home.”
But that won’t happen right away.

Mukpo can be released only after two Centers for Disease Control-verified negative blood tests taken 24 hours apart, says Taylor Wilson, medical center spokesman.

Dr. Phil Smith, medical director of the biocontainment unit, says Mukpo continues to improve, but has noted that the severity and unknown aspects of the Ebola virus “must be kept in mind.”
Mukpo is the second patient to be treated for Ebola at the Nebraska biocontainment unit.

The first was Massachusetts physician Richard Sacra, who contracted the disease while treating patients in West Africa.

“With the last patient, it took 21 days [before he was released].

We’re assuming it will take that long or less.

That’s about 10 days from now,” Levy said. “Until today, yesterday he really hasn’t felt very strong. It’s not like he would really just walk out the door.”

[CENTER]----------------------------

Update - the Spanish health care worker who had contracted Ebola, for the third test, has tested now negative for Ebola.

Teresa Romero Ramos, a Spanish nurse's aide who had contracted Ebola after caring for a patient with the deadly disease, is now free of the virus, Spain's Special Ebola Committee said Sunday.

"Today I'm very happy, because it can be said that Teresa has overcome this illness," Romero's husband, Javier Limon, said in a video statement released by a family spokeswoman.

Two earlier tests showed that Ebola levels in the health worker were almost nil, and a third test came back negative.

"The last two measurements were in 'background' levels, and there is no significant statistical difference with negative results," Luis Enjuanes, an expert on viruses, said in a phone interview, in English, with CNN. "If for three times, throughout one week, you are background, background, background, in practical terms it means you don't have the virus."

Officials have previously said that the amount of the Ebola virus in Romero's blood had decreased dramatically from the time she was rushed to the hospital two weeks ago, but Enjuanes explained just how close to negative she has already come, even before the latest test sample on Sunday.

Romero has recovered enough to produce antibodies, he said.
"It means she's making her own protection, so any virus fooling around probably will be destroyed or neutralized," said Enjuanes, who's been attending the near-daily meetings of the government's special committee on Ebola, a panel of medical and scientific experts convened to deal with the crisis.

Even though Romero received the negative result for the Ebola virus on this third key test in a week, she will surely remain in hospital for days, possibly a few weeks, in order to recover, Enjuanes said.

(source (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/19/health/ebola-crisis/))

[Nick Matkin]

Just seen this news report:

http://www.bedfordshire-news.co.uk/Ebola-dad/story-23204057-detail/story.html

I'm sure Avalonians will have an opinion on that particular story, so some questions:

1) Is this guy manufactured by The Powers That Be to make all those with real fears about ebola look stupid?
2) Is he genuinely worried about the virus and taking reasonable precautions?
3) Is he just a stupid prat, an example of a low-functioning human that has made it into public view?
4) Is he something I have overlooked?

Nick

[meat suit]

nigeria is ebola free
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29685127

[Cidersomerset]

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20 October 2014 Last updated at 10:51

Ebola crisis: Nigeria set to be declared free of virus


Nigeria is expected to be declared officially free of Ebola on Monday, after
six weeks with no new cases.

Africa's most populous country won praise for its swift response after an
infected Liberian diplomat brought the disease there in July.

The World Health Organization (WHO) officially declared Senegal Ebola-free on Friday.

The current outbreak has killed more than 4,500 people in West Africa,
most in Liberia, Guinea, and Sierra Leone

An estimated 70% of those infected have died in those countries.

Meanwhile, European Union foreign ministers are meeting in Luxembourg to
discuss how to strengthen their response to the threat posed by Ebola.

European countries have committed more than 500m euros (£400m; $600m)
but the UK is pressing to double that amount.

The money is being sought to help reinforce over-stretched healthcare systems
in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea and to mitigate the damage Ebola is doing
to their economies.

Ahead of the talks, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested
the EU could send a civilian EU mission to West Africa that would serve as a
platform for sending medical staff.

Another diplomat said there were plans for three countries to spearhead aid to
the region - the UK for Sierra Leone, France for Guinea and the US for Liberia.




Read More....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29685127


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Some other articles on this mini - thread you may or may not have read.
Some Ebola related and others not.......


Volcania radio on Davidicke.com: Zen Gardner talks about the manufactured Ebola crisis
Sunday 19th October 2014 at 10:54 By david-icke

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6SMjuU1aY8



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76162-Volcania-radio-on-Davidicke.com-Zen-Gardner-talks-about-the-manufactured-Ebola-crisis&p=890956#post890956

[Cidersomerset]

Just seen this news report:

http://www.bedfordshire-news.co.uk/E...ail/story.html

I'm sure Avalonians will have an opinion on that particular story, so some questions:

1) Is this guy manufactured by The Powers Tat Be to make all those with real fears about ebola look stupid?
2) Is he genuinely worried about the virus and taking reasonable precautions?
3) Is he just a stupid prat, an example of a low-functioning human that has made it into public view?
4) Is he something I have overlooked?

Nick


Confused I expect ......A post from my little mini thread I mentioned
above three articles Fox saying " Don't panic Mr,Mannering , you're
better off with a Flu jab ".....

Next a Whistle blower tells us the Flu jab is basically worthless as many
have speculated.....

The the catch twenty two situation what do we do about experimental
drugs highlighted after the Ebola outbreak.....

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Shepard Smith Calls Out Media for Hysterical Ebola Scare Tactics

new Monday 20th October 2014 at 07:39 By david-icke


He says get a flu jabinstead of worrying about Ebola....


Z2KBfynW09I


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Meanwhile.........




Whistleblower – Flu Vax Basically Worthless

new Monday 20th October 2014 at 09:10 By david-icke

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‘A Johns Hopkins scientist has issued a blistering report on influenza vaccines in the
British Medical Journal (BMJ). Peter Doshi, Ph.D., charges that although the vaccines
are being pushed on the public in unprecedented numbers, they are less effective and
cause more side effects than alleged by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC). Further, says Doshi, the studies that underlie the CDC’s policy of encouraging
most people to get a yearly flu shot are often low quality studies that do not
substantiate the official claims.’

Read more: Whistleblower – Flu Vax Basically Worthless

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Last Hope ? or Guinea Pig ? A difficult one if you are dying anyway ??

It needs strict monitoring if vulnerable families are not to be taken
advantage of......

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Experimental drugs for patients could be available from March after Government
backs Saatchi Bill

new Monday 20th October 2014 at 10:01 By david-icke



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THE TELEGRAPH......

‘Dying patients could be given access to untested medicines from early next year after
the Government and doctors gave their backing to a bill proposed by Lord Saatchi.

Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary, has now thrown his department’s weight behind
the Medical Innovation Bill which will make it easier for doctors to try out new
treatments on patients without the fear of being sued.’

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Read more: Experimental drugs for patients could be available from March after Government backs Saatchi Bill


Read more....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/saatchi-bill/11173161/Experimental-drugs-for-patients-could-be-available-from-March-after-Government-backs-Saatchi-Bill.html



See thread...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76162-Volcania-radio-on-Davidicke.com-Zen-Gardner-talks-about-the-manufactured-Ebola-crisis&p=890956#post890956

[Violet]

Today Belgium officially started scanning incoming travellers from affected West African countries at the Brussels airport.

[Bob]

Oz put up a presentation today, with a researcher saying of the older stale data which was used to create the 2-21 day incubation period, that adding in an extra 10 days is needed, as the current virus strain has changed enough - 31 days is the suggested observation period, or quarantine period.. There for all of those "all clears" may be premature, or maybe not.. Again it is a situation of not having adequate current research on the current strain.

The viral strain in DR Congo reported earlier in the thread, the other "outbreak" (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/ebola/11054534/DR-Congo-confirms-first-Ebola-cases-in-new-strain-of-killer-virus.html) was what looked like a hybrid something a bit like the Zaire strain, but contained a lot of the code from the earlier Bundibugyo strain.


http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/html/Years/2014/July/img/Ebola.png
(reminding the reader, that the graphic's numbers are OLD DATA from earlier in the year (19 Aug 2014), part of the problem is attempting to get data that is current.. The deaths are getting above the 4500 mark in the hot zone, west Africa)

Each strain intensity on a scale about "able to persist and spread", verses how fast is the rapid kill-burn-out rate.. A more deadly strain SHOULD burn itself out, but easy transport within the small window when the person IS presenting, but not so sick as to not walk, but able to spread the virus, where no quarantines are in place. Open borders allow for easy transport within that small infection window, neither too sick but sick enough to spread it..

The DR Congo variant was instantly quarantined by the government when the outbreak started to appear..

What has NOT been happening with the hot-zone is adequate quarantine; in-adequate education (superstition and disinformation let to run rampant), and when the persons get to a clinic there is improper protection amongst the clinic staff (initial screeners), the patients, and the issue about sanitation continues to plague the attempts to make progress.

Oz seems to think this is real, and if this isn't solved in 60 days, its going to be bad..

A bit more coherent than some of the talking heads on some of the other news services.. The audience happened to feel that, the US is not ready, doesn't have a clue how to deal with this.. Oz then mentioned the WHO said, neither do they, they have no clue what to do if by 60 days from now this can't be capped..

Audience members spoke up saying, with 4 hospitals in the US able to really deal with this safely, we need more class-4 level facilities, not the small handfull which primarily were designed for government employees. People said they want proper hospitals, with proper facilities, and obviously proper medicines..

I have pointed out the 4 different medications which are effective, that are generic these days..

Oz is saying, use the hand sanitizers when you can, try to educate yourself about what's really happening. Knowledge, not spin..

UPDATE- about adding in the extra 10 days for the current strain of the Ebola-Zaire, the most higher numbers of fatalities.. Given that the "treatment" methods being used in Africa are based on old data, 1976 and a few years afterwards to come up with "field protection" (the basic ebola gown and goggles one sees), and the study, if one is clear for 21 days, one bypassed the danger..

It is being noted that the hospitals after clearance of the virus in blood tests in patients are using a rule of thumb, add 10 extra days for the patient to get stronger.. Possibly it is not just that, but they ARE adding in the extra 10 days.. just in-case.. erring on the side of extra caution..

This may be a point of note to keep an eye on, add in the extra 10 days..

For Nigeria and Senegal to have declared "ebola free", the documentation says TWO complete cycles or 42 days.. using the old data, 42 days with no new people diagnosed. (it doesn't take into account how it works in Africa, the un-diagnosed, living in fear, do not report because they believe to report IS a death sentence.. I know that is the case having discussed this personally with folks in Africa, in these areas which have had the Ebola and many more infections - this based in FEAR to NOT report happens all the time..)

Nigeria MUST declare it is over for financial reasons, the oil that is produced... When anyone thinks that $$$ is going to be lost that must be addressed any way possible.. That is PR and they have used that to deal with other issues besides a high profile viral infection.

THEREFORE, to jump in jubilee ITS OVER..maybe is more wishful thinking than the way it really is in the bush or in the over-crowded complexes, such as West Point, in Liberia.. (which West Point is a terrible hot zone currently).

62 days is more realistic, AND an active campaign to get folks to report if an infection or a death has happened. What was done in Sierra Leone and Liberia are door to door evaluation is happening.. Trying to get past this "won't talk" fear..

[Hervé]

Here is for the "natural" side of the equation:

Ebola staging: experts attacked the diagnostic tests (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/ebola-staging-experts-attacked-the-diagnostic-tests/)

Oct 20 (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/ebola-staging-experts-attacked-the-diagnostic-tests/), 2014 by Jon Rappoport (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/author/jonrappoport/)
NoMoreFakeNews.com (http://nomorefakenews.com/)

The experts were expressing grave doubts all the way back in 1977. Right at the beginning.

They were questioning the validity of standard tests used to diagnose Ebola—tests being the only way to say the virus is present in humans.

Of course, if the tests are unreliable, the whole premise of an epidemic caused by a single virus has no value. It’s an unwarranted assumption.

At that point, you can look for illness and death stemming from a number of causes. And you’re driven to the fact that, in Africa, large numbers of people have been dying for a very long time, for reasons that have nothing to do with germs:

Grinding poverty, war, starvation and severe malnutrition, contaminated water, pesticides, lack of basic sanitation, extreme overcrowding, stolen farm land, toxic medicines, and so on.

Not a viral epidemic.

The 1977 reference here is: “Ebola Virus Haemorrhagic Fever: Proceedings of an International Colloquium on Ebola Virus Infection and Other Haemorrhagic Fevers held in Antwerp, Belgium, 6-8 December, 1977.” (http://www.enivd.de/EBOLA/pdf/ebola-hires.pdf)

This report is 280 pages long. It’s well worth reading and studying, to see how the experts hem and haw, hedge their bets, and yet make damaging admissions:
For example,



“It is impossible to consider the virological diagnosis of Ebola virus infection loose [apart] from the diagnosis of haemorrhagic fevers in general. The clinical picture of the disease indeed is too nonspecific to allow any hypothesis as to which virus may be responsible for any given case.”
Boom!


Here is a particularly illuminating quote:


“…it is becoming clear, to us at least, that the more work you do with the FA-Test [an antibody test for Ebola diagnosis] the more interesting, the more complicated and the more biologically sloppy the results become. I would urge very great caution in making any kind of final interpretation of what you have just heard [from other presenters]…I cannot explain how a Panamanian Indian can have antibodies to Ebola virus. I don’t think these are real antibodies. Of course if these are not, it means that any others in a given serum [blood sample from a patient] may not be as well. It is clear that we must have an alternative and a much more specific method with which we can answer these questions. Several facts suggest endemicity of Ebola in Zaire…I’m beginning to believe that the virus may in fact be endemic in Zaire.”What do the last two sentences mean? They mean there is a significant chance that Ebola has been present in Zaire for a long, long time, and people have developed natural immunity to it, as they would to, say, measles or mumps.

Hardly the stuff of “outbreaks” and viral “hot zones” and recent “epidemics.”

Here’s an add-on, 18 years after the 1977 Colloquium in Belgium: of the 55 million people living in Zaire, 20% were estimated to have antibodies to the Ebola virus. In other words, they had developed natural immunity to Ebola. (Citation: Dietrich J., 1995. Der Tod aus dem Regenwald. Die Woche, 19 May, p26-27.”) Again, not the stuff of an epidemic.

And finally, on a CDC website page titled, “Ebola (Ebola Virus Disease): Signs and Symptoms,” there is this quote:


“People who recover from Ebola infection develop antibodies that last for at least 10 years.” The meaning of this is ominous: such people, if they receive an antibody test for Ebola, even though they are now healthy, can be labeled “Ebola,” and treated accordingly: shunned, quarantined, attacked.

Thanks to Felicia Popescu for her article, “The Ebola lie exposed!—a historical analysis.” The article analyzes, in depth, the 1977 Colloquium on Ebola.

Jon Rappoport

[emphases mine]

[Bob]

What may be interesting to note are the different types of fast military testing methods Amzer Zo, for determining markers..

I had pointed out in another thread, that certain chips have been developed to look at nano-trace toxins, biological markers, or specific biological signatures indicative of a viral pathogen, or bacterial, or plasmodium, or any other protein that the device chip has been programmed with.

I was actually asked to look at submitting a bid, for developing some improvements for laser version detection systems to get the data into the chip rapidly from a line of sight distance (detection from up to 3 miles away).

APPARENTLY using OLD data, old procedures, old techniques, old medicines, outdated concepts of "infection control", and media referring to OLD data, to explain it all away, for what reason? urge calm or something else - certainly that is not "doing the best service" to the world - for folks who are hoping to find realistic answers, so that they can plan their own future.., not listening to a "talking head" selling schmooze..

Clear understandable knowledge allows for that, people are smart, and they know when the "smoothing talk" is covering up something..

The first thing "covered up" is the data (being used across the board) generally is not current, so the steps taken (are based on old data) and therefore there is a trend towards "expansion of infection" instead of closing down the infection..(the solution steps should provide for closing down the infection, but they are not, therefore the source data is incorrect).. And for the most part those clinics USED OUTDATED and irrelevant CDC provided data.. Back to source, solve the data equation. Get the real story for the moment, what is happening AS-IS, with this strain.

An earlier post in the thread pointed out the old incorrect data, and that should be noted, and corrected. The exact procedures for this strain of the Zaire Ebola, the deadlier version needs to be solved, not brushed over with OLD statistics; use current data (as state of the art as possible), current drugs, current procedures - all of that comes from education, something that can be done simply in easy to understand language..

It doesn't take a pHd to understand how to quarantine properly, nor how to screen properly, nor how to test properly.. There are military testing apparatus, and as was mentioned earlier in this thread, no doubt, a MEDICAL DOG could be trained easily enough to note the change in aroma with a sickness. EASY to do, easy to implement.. BUT if that is brushed in the dirt again, it will be as the WHO has said, 60 days, and they are out of answers..

[Bob]

ANTIVIRAL - getting stockpiles assembled

Earlier in this thread I talked about the antiviral product called, Avigan; it is now going to get a boost in manufacturing..

The Japanese holding company, FujiFilm, said it has an in-stock inventory of 20,000 courses of treatment of Avigan tablets, plus an additional inventory of active pharmaceutical ingredients to make the 300,000 courses of treatment.

The governments of France and Guinea are planning to conduct clinical trials of Avigan in Guinea as a treatment for Ebola in mid-November, FujiFilm said.

If the trials support the drug’s safety and efficacy as a human Ebola treatment, FuJifilm expects requests for large-scale use.

FuJifilm’s Toyama Chemical unit received Japanese approval in March 2014 for Avigan tablets as a treatment for influenza.

The antiviral, also known by its generic name favipiravir, is designed to inhibit viral gene replication within infected cells.

The simple anti-viral has been demonstrated in mice to stop Ebola's replication.

(Source (http://online.wsj.com/articles/fujifilm-to-boost-production-of-antiflu-drug-for-ebola-treatment-1413817129))

substance reference: http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov//compound/favipiravir?r=chemical

http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/image/imgsrv.fcgi?cid=492405&t=l

2-Pyrazinecarboxamide, 6-fluoro-3-hydroxy-

"6-fluoro-3-oxo-3,4-dihydropyrazine-2-carboxamide";

6-FLUORO-3-HYDROXYPYRAZINE-2-CARBOXAMIDE

T-705 as it is called, is simple as all heck, able to deal with FiloViri (i.e. Ebola), very effective in dealing with "flu", no vaccine needed philosophy, "in-vivo-vaccination" (tm) or simply put the body will make it's own anti-bodies if it can, and has a fighting chance.. An anti-viral gives the immune system the chance - if it can suppress enough viral replications, leaving enough of some key viral proteins "intact" (but the virus is no longer able to reproduce) to create the signature key for the "alarm system"

Total dose: 14 days treatment - twice daily. Not bad. (Taking massive doses of vitamins or anti-oxidants in hopes of a cure.. hmm that would be an interesting comparison watching a cross effectiveness study..)


Filoviruses cause disease with high case fatality rates and are considered biological threat agents.

Licensed post-exposure therapies that can be administered by the oral route are desired for safe and rapid distribution and uptake in the event of exposure or outbreaks.

Favipiravir or T-705 has broad antiviral activity and has already undergone phase II and is undergoing phase III clinical trials for influenza.

Here we report the first use of T-705 against Ebola virus.

T-705 gave 100% protection against aerosol Ebola virus E718 infection;

This protection level was shown in immune-deficient mice after 14 days of twice-daily dosing.

T-705 was also shown to inhibit Ebola virus infection in cell culture as well.

T-705 is likely to be licensed for use against influenza in the near future and could also be used with a new indication for filovirus infection.

PLEASE pay attention to the mention of AEROSOL EBOLA VIRUS MENTION... (something that needs to not be pushed under the rug.. )

In another post coming up, it will be made known, the aerosol version mentioned above, how it was known about and data published in a leading trade journal, aerosol manufacturing, survivability of the bioweapon, duration studies of how long the filo-viri (ebola and marburg) are able to exist viably on surfaces.. In short, the spin being perpetrated, "it is not airborne" is not meant to tell the full story, what has been known to insiders and kept away from the Public.

[Bob]

How effective Avigan?

Well the antiviral was being given to an Ebola patient at a French hospital. The French nurse, a volunteer for Doctors Without Borders who was contaminated while on a mission in Liberia, has recovered and left the hospital, the French health ministry said in a statement.

Fujifilm is also receiving requests to supply the drug to other governments and agencies, it said.

A Ugandan clinian who helped with aid work in Sierra Leone was infected with Ebola. That patient was transferred to a hospital in Frankfurt for treatment and was given the antiviral on Oct. 4.

[Bob]

NIH stored article talks about AIRBORNE (Aerosolized) EBOLA..

- Fauci, Frieden, (and talking heads in MSM) - "IT IS NOT AIRBORNE, it cannot be aerosolized, cannot spread by the air...."

There is a complete study done many years ago, describing how each different variant has been made, tested, in aerosol forms, and on surfaces, describing how easy it is to actually GET the virus infections from the aerosol route.. (inhalation in other words).. or get it by contacting the filovirus from a surface.

From the first dataset - this abstract was found in the National Institutes of Health records...


http://chanlo.com/images/ebo-2.jpg

more extracts from the research paper coming in another post..

Absolutely fascinating article reading the research paper, which by the way WAS put out by a government defence department lab, explaining the 3 week survival rate of the virus on surfaces and the aerosol route.. (the aerosol route was reported to have at best a 103 minute survival rate, corresponding the "particles aloft" and particle size).

Also pointed out from the bioweapons standpoint... something that sent chills down my spine..

A person who had survived the current ebola-zaire strain, is basically immune now to that strain.. think carefully slowly and focus on this to connect these dots.. Given a spray bottle that releases only a few particles a co-opted person immune can distribute such a thing with impunity and there would be no trace.. Please do consider Bill Ryan's new thread when he said he woke up today and realized the "plan" - he asked, is it just a dream or?

So about those quarantines, about those open borders, about not keeping track of who is immune by survival, naturally, or by a monoclonal antibody treatment.. Can folks understand why the emphasis has been made "get the actual antiviral substances widely available, NOW not later.."

A properly chosen antiviral, able to be taken 1 or two times a day by mouth, no more complicated than taking a coenzyme, depending on the particular molecules used.. for from 5 days to two weeks... fast and easy.

Some of these products are now generic, almost over the counter substances, no big pharma's "patented medicines" needed.. What's keeping that from Africa, some agenda?

[Bob]

Dr. recovers in Norway - it is possible if caught but treated early enough.


http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-FC234_norebo_M_20141020135804.jpg

Norwegian doctor Silje Lehne Michalsen speaks Monday in Oslo ahead of her release from the hospital where she recovered from the Ebola virus.


OSLO—A Norwegian medical doctor left the Ulleval Hospital in Oslo on Monday, having recovered from Ebola after contracting it on her first field job for Doctors Without Borders in Sierra Leone.

“Today I am well and no longer contagious,” said Silje Lehne Michalsen. “I feel lucky, and it doesn’t really feel like I’ve had Ebola. Those who have been and are infected with Ebola in Africa have had—and have—a completely different experience than me.”

Dr. Michalsen, 30 years old, said at a news conference in Oslo that she wanted to return to West Africa and continue fighting Ebola. She said she was thankful that many health workers are volunteering to join the fight.

“To have Ebola in West Africa is more than having symptoms. It’s losing sisters, fathers and neighbors,” Dr. Michalsen said. “To be six years old and submitted without knowing anybody. That your family is stigmatized. To be isolated in warm, overcrowded tents, with hard beds and dead bodies in the neighboring beds. But that’s only if you’re lucky enough to get a space.”

The Norwegian doctor was among 500 international workers and 3,000 local workers employed by Doctors Without Borders in West Africa since March. Twenty-three of the group’s field workers in West Africa have contracted Ebola, and 13 have died, all of them local staff, Doctors Without Borders said.

(Source (http://online.wsj.com/articles/norwegian-ebola-patient-recovers-is-discharged-from-hospital-1413830048))

[avid]

Seeking redress!

http://www.rense.com/general96/ebomadeby.html


Ebola Made By Western Pharmaceuticals, US DoD?

By Dr. Cyril Broderick
Professor of Plant Pathology
The Liberian Observer
10-20-14

Are bio weapons being tested on Africans. Reports have linked the Ebola virus outbreak to an attempt to reduce Africa’s population. Liberia happens to be the continents' fastest growing population.
Dear World Citizens...

I have read a number of articles from your Internet outreach as well as articles from other sources about the casualties in Liberia and other West African countries about the human devastation caused by the Ebola virus.

About a week ago, I read an article published in the Internet news summary publication of the Friends of Liberia that said that there was an agreement that the initiation of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa was due to the contact of a two-year old child with bats that had flown in from the Congo. That report made me disconcerted with the reporting about Ebola, and it stimulated a response to the “Friends of Liberia,” saying that African people are not ignorant and gullible, as is being implicated.

A response from Dr. Verlon Stone said that the article was not theirs, and that “Friends of Liberia” was simply providing a service. He then asked if he could publish my letter in their Internet forum. I gave my permission, but I have not seen it published. Because of the widespread loss of life, fear, physiological trauma, and despair among Liberians and other West African citizens, it is incumbent that I make a contribution to the resolution of this devastating situation, which may continue to recur, if it is not properly and adequately confronted. I will address the situation in five (5) points:

1. EBOLA IS A GENETICALLY MODIFIED ORGANISM (GMO)

Horowitz (1998) was deliberate and unambiguous when he explained the threat of new diseases in his text, Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola - Nature, Accident or Intentional. In his interview with Dr. Robert Strecker in Chapter 7, the discussion, in the early 1970s, made it obvious that the war was between countries that hosted the KGB and the CIA, and the ‘manufacture’ of ‘AIDS-Like Viruses’ was clearly directed at the other. In passing during the Interview, mention was made of Fort Detrick, “the Ebola Building,” and ‘a lot of problems with strange illnesses’ in “Frederick [Maryland].”

By Chapter 12 in his text, he had confirmed the existence of an American Military-Medical-Industry that conducts biological weapons tests under the guise of administering vaccinations to control diseases and improve the health of “black Africans overseas.” The book is an excellent text, and all leaders plus anyone who has interest in science, health, people, and intrigue should study it. I am amazed that African leaders are making no acknowledgements or reference to these documents.

2. EBOLA HAS A TERRIBLE HISTORY, AND TESTING HAS BEEN SECRETLY TAKING PLACE IN AFRICA

I am now reading The Hot Zone, a novel, by Richard Preston (copyrighted 1989 and 1994); it is heart-rending. The prolific and prominent writer, Steven King, is quoted as saying that the book is “One of the most horrifying things I have ever read. What a remarkable piece of work.” As a New York Times bestseller, The Hot Zone is presented as “A terrifying true story.”

Terrifying, yes, because the pathological description of what was found in animals killed by the Ebola virus is what the virus has been doing to citizens of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia in its most recent outbreak: Ebola virus destroys peoples’ internal organs and the body deteriorates rapidly after death. It softens and the tissues turn into jelly, even if it is refrigerated to keep it cold. Spontaneous liquefaction is what happens to the body of people killed by the Ebola virus!

The author noted in Point 1, Dr. Horowitz, chides The Hot Zone for writing to be politically correct; I understand because his book makes every effort to be very factual. The 1976 Ebola incident in Zaire, during President Mobutu Sese Seko, was the introduction of the GMO Ebola to Africa.

3. SITES AROUND AFRICA, AND IN WEST AFRICA, HAVE OVER THE YEARS BEEN SET UP FOR TESTING EMERGING DISEASES, ESPECIALLY EBOLA

The World Health Organization (WHO) and several other UN Agencies have been implicated in selecting and enticing African countries to participate in the testing events, promoting vaccinations, but pursuing various testing regiments. The August 2, 2014 article, West Africa: What are US Biological Warfare Researchers Doing in the Ebola Zone? by Jon Rappoport of Global Research pinpoints the problem that is facing African governments.

Obvious in this and other reports are, among others:

(a) The US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), a well-known centre for bio-war research, located at Fort Detrick, Maryland;

(b) Tulane University, in New Orleans, USA, winner of research grants, including a grant of more than $7 million the National Institute of Health (NIH) to fund research with the Lassa viral hemorrhagic fever;

(c) the US Center for Disease Control (CDC);

(d) Doctors Without Borders (also known by its French name, Medicins Sans Frontiers);

(e) Tekmira, a Canadian pharmaceutical company;

(f) The UK’s GlaxoSmithKline; and

(g) the Kenema Government Hospital in Kenema, Sierra Leone.

Reports narrate stories of the US Department of Defense (DoD) funding Ebola trials on humans, trials which started just weeks before the Ebola outbreak in Guinea and Sierra Leone. The reports continue and state that the DoD gave a contract worth $140 million dollars to Tekmira, a Canadian pharmaceutical company, to conduct Ebola research. This research work involved injecting and infusing healthy humans with the deadly Ebola virus.

Hence, the DoD is listed as a collaborator in a “First in Human” Ebola clinical trial (NCT02041715, which started in January 2014 shortly before an Ebola epidemic was declared in West Africa in March. Disturbingly, many reports also conclude that the US government has a viral fever bioterrorism research laboratory in Kenema, a town at the epicentre of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

The only relevant positive and ethical olive-branch seen in all of my reading is that Theguardian.com reported, “The US government funding of Ebola trials on healthy humans comes amid warnings by top scientists in Harvard and Yale that such virus experiments risk triggering a worldwide pandemic.” That threat still persists.

4. THE NEED FOR LEGAL ACTION TO OBTAIN REDRESS FOR DAMAGES INCURRED DUE TO THE PERPETUATION OF INJUSTICE IN THE DEATH, INJURY AND TRAUMA IMPOSED ON LIBERIANS AND OTHER AFRICANS BY THE EBOLA AND OTHER DISEASE AGENTS.

The U. S., Canada, France, and the U. K. are all implicated in the detestable and devilish deeds that these Ebola tests are. There is the need to pursue criminal and civil redress for damages, and African countries and people should secure legal representation to seek damages from these countries, some corporations, and the United Nations. Evidence seems abundant against Tulane University, and suits should start there. Yoichi Shimatsu’s article, The Ebola Breakout Coincided with UN Vaccine Campaigns, as published on August 18, 2014, in the Liberty Beacon.

5. AFRICAN LEADERS AND AFRICAN COUNTRIES NEED TO TAKE THE LEAD IN DEFENDING BABIES, CHILDREN, AFRICAN WOMEN, AFRICAN MEN, AND THE ELDERLY. THESE CITIZENS DO NOT DESERVE TO BE USED AS GUINEA PIGS!

Africa must not relegate the Continent to become the locality for disposal and the deposition of hazardous chemicals, dangerous drugs, and chemical or biological agents of emerging diseases. There is urgent need for affirmative action in protecting the less affluent of poorer countries, especially African citizens, whose countries are not as scientifically and industrially endowed as the United States and most Western countries, sources of most viral or bacterial GMOs that are strategically designed as biological weapons.

It is most disturbing that the U. S. Government has been operating a viral hemorrhagic fever bioterrorism research laboratory in Sierra Leone. Are there others? Wherever they exist, it is time to terminate them. If any other sites exist, it is advisable to follow the delayed but essential step: Sierra Leone closed the US bioweapons lab and stopped Tulane University for further testing.

The world must be alarmed. All Africans, Americans, Europeans, Middle Easterners, Asians, and people from every conclave on Earth should be astonished. African people, notably citizens more particularly of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone are victimized and are dying every day. Listen to the people who distrust the hospitals, who cannot shake hands, hug their relatives and friends. Innocent people are dying, and they need our help. The countries are poor and cannot afford the whole lot of personal protection equipment (PPE) that the situation requires. The threat is real, and it is larger than a few African countries.

The challenge is global, and we request assistance from everywhere, including China, Japan, Australia, India, Germany, Italy, and even kind-hearted people in the U.S., France, the U.K., Russia, Korea, Saudi Arabia, and anywhere else whose desire is to help. The situation is bleaker than we on the outside can imagine, and we must provide assistance however we can.

To ensure a future that has less of this kind of drama, it is important that we now demand that our leaders and governments be honest, transparent, fair, and productively engaged. They must answer to the people. Please stand up to stop Ebola testing and the spread of this dastardly disease.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,
Dr. Cyril E. Broderick, Sr.

About the Author
Dr. Broderick is a former professor of Plant Pathology at the University of Liberia’s College of Agriculture and Forestry. He is also the former Observer Farmer in the 1980s. It was from this column in our newspaper, the Daily Observer, that Firestone spotted him and offered him the position of Director of Research in the late 1980s. In addition, he is a scientist, who has taught for many years at the Agricultural College of the University of Delaware.
Copyright: Liberian Observer Corporation

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

May I point interested parties to this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76238-Ebola-tested-on-Humans&p=891496#post891496

[sheme]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/top-ebola-experts-this-strain-is-much-worse-than-weve-ever-seen-before-video/5409024

A More Dangerous Strain

The head of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – Dr. Michael Osterholm – is a prominent public health scientist and a nationally recognized biosecurity expert.

Dr. Osterholm just gave a talk shown on C-Span explaining that a top Ebola virologist – the Head of Special Pathogens at Canada’s health agency, Gary Kobinger – has found that the current strain of Ebola appears to be much worse than any strain seen before … and that the current virus may be more likely to spread through aerosols than strains which scientists have previously encountered.


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According to the Washington Post [1], the World Health Organization has announced a program which would round up Ebola victims across Liberia and herd them into “Ebola death camps” in order to isolate them from their families.

Although they aren’t called “Ebola death camps” — the sweet-sounding public name for the facilities is “community care centers” — their purpose is “to move infected people out of their homes and into ad hoc centers that will provide rudimentary care,” says the Post.


Well WHO would have thought? Here we go....:(...

[Bob]

Summary from the previous page (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=891235&viewfull=1#post891235)

- Ebola Zaire has been demonstrated by UK government scientists to be aerosolized - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=891388&viewfull=1#post891388

- Governments in Europe ordering ANTI-VIRAL pills, oral pills, 14 days able to stop Ebola even in later stage infections

- Governments have KNOWN about the aerosol and respiratory infection ability of Ebola and have hidden that data (data shown on a NIH - 'US national institutes of health' file abstract such has been proven to be aerosolized and able to exist on surfaces for 21 days easily, and up to 50 days.)

- Ebola survivors could make for prime potential terrorists if radicalized; they could conceivably SPRAY an aerosol of ebola and be IMMUNE to that strain.. ALL governments know that and that is WHY there is a radio silence in MSM currently..

Reading the research report from the scientists who have demonstrated aerosolized Ebola is an eye opener.. It is technical but there is sufficient information to put a cold chill down anyone's back..

UPDATE - US agrees to LIMITED INCOMING travel restriction - all travelers from West Africa can ONLY LAND at a hand full of select airports, with proper screening.. (whatever proper screening is in their minds) - it has been shown that 'temperature checks' and 'filling out a form' is not reliable.. It was mentioned that a medical sniffer dog may be the best first line of screening defence..

The better way would be to have a 24 hour layover 'in quarantine' while rapid blood tests are performed.. IN-AIRPORT secure hold-over, with blood test.. Apparently they can do an evaluation in 24 hours on a special blood test and let travelers go on their way.. It's "fair and balanced" without a total shut-down and a compromise which could work.

To have open borders, one MUST do the above for safety..

NOW all that does NOT preclude a terrorist with immunity from taking in an aerosol container and using it.. THAT is truly chilling..

[Bob]

Cameraman now all clear.. Dr. Brantly's magic serum helps heal another.

The freelance cameraman who was diagnosed with Ebola while working for NBC News in Liberia has cleared the virus from his system and can leave the special isolation unit at Nebraska Medical Center. Apparently strong enough with minimal organ damage, a blood test confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Ashoka Mukpo, 33, can head home to Providence, R.I., NBC News reported Tuesday night.

(It was assumed that the procedure was 3 tests in a row clear, patient can go home.. hmm, only one needed now? Not sure if that is the full story..)

Meanwhile - an unidentified patient being treated at Emory is now "free of Ebola virus disease" and was discharged Sunday from the facility, the medical center said in a statement released Monday afternoon.

The man, who has requested anonymity since being admitted to Emory's Serious Communicable Disease Unit on Sept. 9, now poses no threat to public health and has left the hospital for an "undisclosed location," the hospital added.

Wonder who the stranger is who was able to make it into the prestigious Emory University Isolation facility, the class - 4 facility able to deal with Grade A biopathogens, the place which was designed for CDC or government officials to seek treatment? And this person doesn't want to reveal who they are or thank publicly, for getting some miraculous cure? What cure, what treatment, surely the medical establishment world wide, wants to KNOW what worked? How was it done, what procedure, how long, what statistics?

Not talking about that, keeping an "unknown" in Emory's isolation unit, especially with a need to be in a class 4 biocontainment facility.. sure leaves a lot of non-support for those seeing to try to deal with the infection in Africa..

(assorted news services)

[Bob]

An article from InfoWars points out

Scientists identified as early as 1995 Ebola under lower temperatures can be effectively spread in an Aerosol, citing in the winter, in NY city for instance or any other cold temperature country, Ebola could very well be an effective bioweapon





Ebola can go airborne but hasn't in West Africa because it's too warm, researchers conclude


“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

“Both elevated temperature and relative humidity have been shown to reduce the aerosol stability of viruses.”

Old study data, 1995 cited by InfoWars but relevant.

The report mentioned in the #684 post above was conducted in UK, by British government scientists in 2010, and the NIH (National Institutes of Health) report abstract was from 2014.

Airborne..

The British study uses specifically EBOLA-ZAIRE strain for the studies, and shows it IS effective as an infectious and lethal bioweapon, via the respiratory (breathing in) route.

ref: http://www.infowars.com/scientists-ebola-can-spread-by-air-in-cold-weather/

[Bob]

Understanding the polymerase control of a bioweapons virus, or other viruses which can induce hemorrhagic fevers...

In November 2014 the West African Government of Guinea (in the hotzone) has agreed to conduct trials to verify the cure rate.

A good article written by Taher Eldemerdash (https://plus.google.com/+TaherEldemerdashH/posts/71zh9Dgs16H?pid=6058354229355450130&oid=107703123085745372213) (‫طاهر الدمرداش‬‎) discusses this:

(Favipiravir - is a relatively low cost simple molecule with dramatic broad spectrum antiviral properties, from Ebola, Influenza, yellow fever, and many more viruses..)


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qHSuGQu8l4o/VBOZErQ3jxI/AAAAAAAAAUs/HXmQx3EBjDM/s621-no/Ebola%2BVirus%2BDisease.jpg

Favipiravir : 6-FLUORO-3-HYDROXYPYRAZINE-2-CARBOXAMIDE

Favipiravir (T-705 or Avigan), developed by Fujifilm, is currently undergoing animals tests in Japan with results expected in late September (completed and successfully works).

It is an experimental drug which inhibits viral replication and has activity against a number of viruses including influenza, yellow fever and West Nile virus.

In France, a surviving case of Ebola is known to have received favipiravir as part of their treatment. A Ugandan doctor evacuated from Sierra Leone has also been treated with Avigan in Frankfurt, Germany.

A medium scale clinical trial of Avigan is being proposed for November 2014 between the governments of Japan, France and Guinea.

Hypothetic mechanism of action of T-705. T-705 may be converted to T-705 ribofuranosyl phosphates by host cell enzymes. The triphosphate form, T-705RTP, strongly inhibited by influenza virus RNA polymerase activity. Meanwhile, T-705 and its phosphates showed little inhibitory effect on the replication of the host cell.

Meaning, it stops the virus from being able to reproduce, without damaging the human cells (or primate cells). This is very good news for broad spectrum antibiotic therapy, and offers hope for stopping not only Ebola but a wide range of diseases with a very high mortality (influenza and measles for instance, it is also effective against HIV).

[Bob]

Some highlights from the technical merits of T-705 broad spectrum anti-viral

T-705 is an RNA-directed RNA polymerase (NS5B) inhibitor which has been filed for approval in Japan for the oral treatment of influenza A (including avian and H1N1 infections) and for the treatment of influenza B infection.

The compound is a unique viral RNA polymerase inhibitor, acting on viral genetic copying to prevent its reproduction, discovered by Toyama Chemical.

As early as 2005, Utah State University carried out various studies under its contract with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and demonstrated that T-705 has exceptionally potent activity in mouse infection models of H5N1 avian influenza.

(NIAID is run by Dr. Fauci whom we have heard is downplaying the aerosol ability of Ebola to spread, which was known about for many years by many government agencies.. (and apparently suppressed from the general public to prevent apparently "terrorist use"). Fauci's organization had known about the broad spectrum antibiotic effectivity for easily and dramatically stopping MANY viruses, but NIAID opted to develop VACCINES for specific strains of viruses, ignoring widespread use of CURES for continual treatment..)

T-705 (Favipiravir) is an antiviral pyrazinecarboxamide-based, inhibitor of of the influenza virus with an EC90 of 1.3 to 7.7 uM (influenza A, H5N1).

EC90 ranges for other influenza A subtypes are 0.19-1.3 uM, 0.063-1.9 uM, and 0.5-3.1 uM for H1N1, H2N2, and H3N2, respectively. (uM micro-mole concentrations)

(EC90 or EC50 effective concentration rate needed to kill 90% or 50% of viruses, simple geek-speak designation used for showing effectiveness)

T-705 also exhibits activity against type B and C viruses, with EC90s of 0.25-0.57 uM and 0.19-0.36 uM, respectively.

Additionally, T-705 has broad activity against arenavirus, bunyavirus, foot-and-mouth disease virus, and West Nile virus with EC50s ranging from 5 to 300 uM.

(The above viruses were described in the early sections of this thread, and are SERIOUS viruses.. Showing that it can deal with foot-and-mouth disease AND west Nile virus is highly encouraging as these virus diseases have no existing treatment - which leads to many casualties).

Studies show that T-705 ribofuranosyl triphosphate is the active form of T-705 and acts like purines or purine nucleosides in cells and does not inhibit DNA synthesis.

(in other words, human DNA is not damaged).

In 2012, MediVector was awarded a contract from the U.S. Department of Defense's (DOD) Joint Project Manager Transformational Medical Technologies (JPM-TMT) to further develop T-705 (favipiravir), a broad-spectrum therapeutic against multiple influenza viruses.

Reference: Furuta, Y.; Takahashi, K.; Shiraki, K.; Sakamoto, K.; Smee, D. F.; Barnard, D. L.; Gowen, B. B.; Julander, J. G.; Morrey, J. D. (2009). "T-705 (favipiravir) and related compounds: Novel broad-spectrum inhibitors of RNA viral infections". Antiviral Research 82 (3): 95–102. doi:10.1016/j.antiviral.2009.02.198. PMID 19428599.

Type B and C viruses reference:

a broad spectrum anti-viral able to work to inhibit virus reproduction in viruses which create breast cancer tumors AND leukemia. It is a breakthrough in CANCER research, able to stop the known VIRUSES responsible for the tumor development, in other words, VIRAL induced tumors in both cases can be stopped by the proper broad spectrum anti-viral..

Again, no radiation, no chemotherapy.. the focus is direct action to stop the virus - period, thereby the healing methods can occur where the body's immune system will go after (and remove) the viral remains..

The solution as has been emphasised, ANTIVIRAL use, and pay attention to why when this is mentioned that this is suppressed..

[sheme]

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/world/French-scientists-devise-faster-test-for-Ebola-virus/-/1068/2494964/-/3j12uy/-/index.html

French devise a 15 minute home Ebola test.

[Bob]

Bentley will live

Bentley doesn’t have Ebola, but he’ll stay isolated in Dallas with plenty of time to play and snooze until Nov. 1, when his quarantine is over. His owner, Nina Pham, has since been upgraded from fair to good condition after contracting Ebola.


http://static3.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1983365.1413998807!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/pham23n-3-web.jpg

Bentley’s owner, Pham, receives daily updates on her best friend, who she hasn’t seen since Oct. 10, according to the Dallas Morning News. Bentley apparently loves to chew on his favorite toy, is perky and apparently in good spirits.

(Source (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-nurse-dog-bentley-tests-negative-ebola-virus-article-1.1983369))

[Bob]

The botched procedures at Texas Presbyterian Hospital, Dallas leading to the death of Thomas Duncan, and the sickness of two nurses (both being effectively treated elsewhere) have apparently been "too much" for the hospital to deal with.. Short of completely closing their doors (probably a sensible move), they have said they will no longer be accepting persons suspected or with confirmed Ebola infections..

(Source (http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/221397-dallas-hospital-will-not-treat-any-more-ebola-patients))


The Dallas hospital that has treated three Ebola patients will no longer admit anyone who has been infected with the disease, Texas Gov. Rick Perry announced Tuesday.

Texas health officials are creating a pair of new Ebola treatment centers to handle any additional cases. Neither of those facilities are at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, which has been heavily criticized for its flawed care of the country's first Ebola patient.

There is a move afoot to have special centers designed, based on the Class-4 biocontainment facility at Emory University, which was designed to be used exclusively by Government Employees of the CDC (or NIH) when they come down infected with a "hotzone" like virus.


The hospital has admitted missteps in its care of Duncan, partly blaming the rarity of the disease in the U.S. as well as a lack of support from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Dozens of the Dallas hospital’s workers are still at risk for the disease after treating Duncan and potentially exposing themselves to the virus. Another 43 people who had contact with Duncan were cleared on Monday, at the end of the disease’s 21-day incubation period.

CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden had initially said that any hospital with an intensive care unit could safely treat an Ebola-infected patient.

(Backpeddling) Frieden said Monday that Ebola patients should be transferred to specialized hospitals.

[Bob]

Connecticut has 9 being watched for Ebola symptoms

"Nine people in Connecticut who may have been exposed to the Ebola virus have been told to stay at home and are being monitored by local health authorities for symptoms, a spokesman for the State Public Health Department said on Wednesday."

(Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/23/nyregion/9-in-connecticut-being-watched-for-symptoms-of-ebola.html?_r=0))


They were not publicly identified because of privacy concerns, but officials said three were Yale University students and the others were from one family. At least some had traveled to West Africa.


Quarantine - the nine people would be confined to their homes for 21 days and would be checked by public health authorities.

[Bob]

Updated numbers - the toll continues.. Doubling now every couple weeks..

(Reuters) - At least 4,877 people have died in the world's worst recorded outbreak of Ebola, and at least 9,936 cases of the disease had been recorded as of Oct. 19, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Wednesday, but the true toll may be three times as much.

The WHO has said real numbers of cases are believed to be much higher than reported: by a factor of 1.5 in Guinea, 2 in Sierra Leone and 2.5 in Liberia, while the death rate is thought to be about 70 percent of all cases.

That would suggest a toll of almost 15,000.

(Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/22/us-health-ebola-who-idUSKCN0IB23220141022))

Meanwhile, the US has announced an updated policy of MONITORING all travelers who have entered the US from west African countries, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/22/us-health-ebola-who-idUSKCN0IB23220141022


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has announced it will monitor for 21 days anyone entering the United States from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, west African nations that have been hard-hid by the Ebola virus.

Beginning Monday, travellers from those nations will be expected to check in with health officials daily, and provide updates on their temperatures and any possible Ebola symptoms.

The move was announced Wednesday, a day after the Obama administration announced new restrictions on travellers from the same three countries, routing them through the US airports with Ebola-screening procedures in place.

[Bob]

California back to looking at potential Ebola cases.. This time, neither the health officials, nor any hospital is not talking about being able to care for a class-4 biopathogen patient.

In Sacramento County, health officials are monitoring two people who recently traveled to West Africa, where the Ebola outbreak is centered, but officials said neither person is showing symptoms and neither has been hospitalized.

Despite state officials' constant conversations with hospitals, it's still not clear which California hospital -- if any -- would be designated to care for an Ebola patient.

CDC director Frieden had assured the US public that all hospitals were prepared, and has had to backtrack on that statement after the fiasco in Dallas. It appears that some other hospitals are likewise not prepared. Some though have said they are prepared.. It appears to be confusing, just WHO has sufficiently trained staff and who has adequate safety capability and protection equipment.


At a news conference last week, the state's top health officials said they are choosing a few hospitals best prepared to do the job.

"It may be within a health care system or within a regional area -- hospitals that we know are fully prepared," said Dr. Gil Chavez, the deputy director of the California Department of Public Health and the state's chief of infectious diseases. "And if we have a patient, we can actually transfer patients to those hospitals."

But the California Hospital Association said Wednesday no such plans have been made.

"Whether we're going to move in that direction or not is undetermined, but it is a topic of discussion," said the organization's vice president, Jan Emerson-Shea.

In addition, a spokesman for the CDPH would not say on Wednesday whether the state still intends to designate Ebola-specific hospitals.

[Bob]

In the US individual States have said, they are going to come up with their own preparedness, training, and facilities to deal with Ebola - bypassing the CDC's apparently in-effective 'recommendations' (i.e. Texas fiasco)..

(Source (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/22/as-ebola-fears-spread-states-take-emergency-response-into-their-own-hands/))


Not satisfied with the federal response, several states are taking the Ebola crisis into their own hands – tapping emergency funds in their budgets, launching treatment units and holding public hearings to stanch the spread of misinformation about the virus.

The lines of responsibility for what the federal government and what the states should be doing have blurred in recent days, amid questions over guidance initially provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

States considering and planning activity to deal with Ebola or any other class 4 pathogen, i.e. Marburg, or any of the other hemorrhagic fevers discussed in this thread:


Ohio
Texas
Florida
New Jersey
Georgia
New York
Massachusetts
Indiana
California and
Oregon

[Bob]

And now, nurse Amber is free of Ebola after treatment in Emory University's Isolation unit, the same one which accepted Dr. Brantly at the outset of US care for Ebola Patients. Emory had just released an earlier unidentified patient, who arrived in mystery and left the same way, cured..

(that was fast) !

(source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/22/dallas-nurse-amber-vinson-free-of-ebola-virus/))

Amber Vinson, a Dallas nurse who contracted Ebola while caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, is now free of the virus, according to her family.

Vinson arrived at Emory University Hospital last week for treatment. As of Tuesday night, officials with the hospital and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Ebola were not able to detect Ebola in Vinson's body, her family said in the statement.

Vinson "has also been approved for transfer from isolation," the family's statement read. "We all know that further treatment will be necessary as Amber continues to regain strength, but these latest developments have truly answered prayers and bring our family one step closer to reuniting with her at home," her mother, Debra Berry, said in a statement.

If you recall Amber scared the Nation, while traveling to Ohio with a low grade fever, signifying possibly she was presenting, leading to a large watch list across the nation with some being in quarantine.

CDC Director Thomas Frieden later said she shouldn't have been boarding any flights given her possible exposure to the virus, but apparently that message never got to the CDC staff that Ms. Vinson had called for clearance to fly to Ohio.

[Bob]

CIRDAP tells CDC, you got it wrong, it is airborne transmittable

(It was reported earlier in this THREAD, aerosol, airborne transmission, that the various official statistical data being used to "convince" media, the public, many doctors WAS OLD STALE DATA - yet every time such was pointed out, the report was pushed to the bottom of the stack.. why was that? Effective anti-virals were reported as solutions to vaccines, and THAT was pushed to the bottom of the stack, why was that?)

CIDRAP ADVISES CDC AND WHO THAT EBOLA IS AEROSOL-TRANSMISSIBLE DISEASE, INCREASING RISK OF TRANSMISSION BY AIR

The Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota has advised the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and World Health Organization (WHO) that, "there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles," including exhaled breath containing airborne particles that in Ebola virus can remain viable up to 90 minutes.

(we have been reporting this for days and it was continually poo poo'd and pushed to the bottom of the stack)


UK Government knew about this since 2010, and NIH *US) new about the airborne characteristics at the same time from interagency notification.

THAT DATA is either a coverup, ignorance or something deeper.

( www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola ) .

The Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) since 2001 has been a global leader in addressing public health preparedness regarding emerging infectious diseases and bio-security responses.

Although the Center for infectious Disease Research and Policy acknowledges that they were, "first skeptical that Ebola virus could be an aerosol-tranmissible disease" [airborne], they are, "now persuaded by a review of experimental and epidemiologic data that this might be an important feature of disease transmission, particularly in healthcare settings."

The President, CDC and other government health agencies, in addition to most physicians, to date in public hearings, protocols, and announcements have acknowledged a transmission path of solely direct contact and denied the possibility of airborne or aerosol transmission.

To quote from the CIDRAP Ebola commentary dated September 17, 2014 by Lisa M. Brosseau ScD and Rachael Jones PhD, "Medical and infection control professionals have relied for years on a paradigm for aerosol transmission of infectious diseases based on a very outmoded research and an overly simplistic interpretation of the data. ...Early aerobiologists were not able to measure small particles near an infectous person ...

In the 1940s and 50s, William F. Wells and other 'aerobiologists' employed now significantly out-of-date sampliing methods. ...

They concluded that organisms capable of aerosol transmission (termed 'airborne') can only do so at around 3 feet from the source. Because they thought that only large particles would be present near the source, they believed people would be exposed only via large 'droplets' on their face, eyes, or nose. ...

Modern research, using more sensitive instruments and analytic methods, has shown that aerosols emitted from the respiratory tract contain a wide distribution of particle sizes - including many that are small enough to be inhaled.


Thus, both small and large particles will be present near an infectious person. ...the important points are that virus-laden bodily fluids may be aerosolized and inhaled while a person is in proximity to an infectious person and that a wide range of particle sizes can be inhaled and deposited thoughout the respiratory tract."

Quoting further from the CIDRAP commentary: "Some pathogens are limited in the cell type and location they infect. Influenza, for example, is generally restricted to respiratory epithelial cells, which explains why flu is primarily a respiratory infection and is most likely aerosol transmissible.

HIV infects T-helper cells in the lymphoid tissues and is primarily a bloodborne pathogen with low probability for transmission via aerosols.

Ebola virus, on the other hand, is a broader-acting and more non-specific pathogen that can impede the proper functioning of macrophages and dendritic cells - immune response cells located in the epithelium. Epithelial tissues are found throughout the body, including in the respiratory tract. Ebola prevents these cells [macrophages and dendritic immune cells] from carrying out their antiviral functions but does not interfere with the intitial inflammatory response, which attracts additional cells to the infection site. The latter contribute to further dissemination of the virus and similar adverse consequences far beyond the initial infection site."

The immune cells exposed to Ebola HF virus are prevented from creating essential antibodies needed to kill the virus, while the inflammation continues unabated throughout the body where the virus penetrates blood vessels and tissue, creating internal and external bleeding and fever. By preventing blood clotting in the virus penetrated blood vessels and tissues, the Ebola HF virus can cause external hemorrhaging through blood droplets containing virus infected blood which then are potentially projected to animals and humans in the vicinity.

CIDRAP is warning surgical facemasks do not prevent transmission of Ebola, and healthcare professionals must immediately be outfitted with full-hooded protective gear and powered air-purifying respirators. CIDRAP's opinion on Ebola virus is there are "No proven pre- or post-exposure treatment modalities;" "A high case-fatality rate," and "Unclear modes of transmission."


References, my posts in this thread, NSC news reporting for reference and Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota

[sheme]

I am hoping that they abandon their plans as we have shown the world what they intend and how they intend to do it.

[Bob]

I am hoping that they abandon their plans as we have shown the world what they intend and how they intend to do it.


What has been found - the misinformation and disinformation spread by the official "authority", that convinced, Media, Doctors and many People, nothing to see here. Many people distrusted the "official authority", telling people it's not real, the infection, it is real and has a bioweapons potential, as well as a natural and accidental potential.
What has been found - non-vaccine solutions, that can stop hemorrhagic fevers, especially Ebola/Marburg, several other virus diseases, Hep B, Herpes, Epstein Barr, Hoof and Mouth etc.
What has been found - the People have been let to die in Africa when anti-virals where known about early in the 2000's, refined during the 2000's.
What has been found - massive control and monitoring systems are being put in place to 'protect' the world from 'ebola', and 'other bioweapons' viruses.
What has been found - massive bioweapons programs continue to be used by many countries, calling them "defensive research", not offensive campaigns.
What has been found - many cancers can be stopped by certain broad spectrum anti-virals.
What has been found - ebola and marburg hemorrhagic fevers have been aerosolized, can transfer infection by the airborne route - this has been hidden from the People, Media, Public.
What has been found - information told to First Line Responders has been in-accurate, that the ebola virus passes the face masks and can be breathed in and infection can occur.
What has been found - the Public, Doctors and Media were told most US hospitals, (and world hospitals) are unprepared to deal with a virus which should be handled in a class-4 BSL facility. The Public and Doctors were told erroneously that hospitals are prepared by "official authority".
What has been found - a least one hospital treating a Person, not-prepared, apparently facilitated an unwarranted death, because the two nurses who were infected by the Person were able to recover rapidly with proper treatment. That says, the hospital was not prepared AND treatment methods in proper facilities with proper medication will stop the virus Ebola.

[Bob]

Dr Craig Spencer, back from being "in the zone", quarantined in Bellevue hospital and being tested, his girlfriend in quarantine...

Just got back from the hotzone..issue possibly with Ebola making it past the "face mask" which has been noted as being non-effective for small Ebola particle (see earlier post).

Has symptoms.. not out-of-control symptoms at this time, but checking is being done in the hospital. Bellevue is the designated NY City receiving hospital for Ebola patients.

The doctor, returned to the U.S. ten days ago from Guinea. His apartment is located at West 147th Street in Harlem. He is 33-years-old.

UPDATE - 103 deg fever.
took taxi yesterday to bowling alley in Brooklyn, did not self quarantine..
6-12 hours more to wait for the test results..
The PRELIM TEST RESULTS IN - POSITIVE for Ebola - now in NY City.

So does bowling, putting three fingers into a bowling ball mean, if presenting yesterday, that close contact by someone else picking up and using that ball is possible? The bowling shoes? How about the taxi cab? questions questions..


http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_craig_spencer_FLOAT_kb_141023_16x9_992.jpg

He was working with Doctors Without Borders who with Samaritan's Purse and SIMS is leading the medical effort in the Hot Zone in West Africa.

(multiple sources)

Update 2 - The Doctor spent Wednesday night bowling in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, the sources said. He used Uber taxis to get there and back.

He landed at JFK airport on Oct. 17 on a connecting flight from Brussels, a source said. Spencer’s temperature was 98.7 degrees upon arrival at JFK, the source added. 5 days later, he was spiking at 103 same as Thomas Duncan.

He needs treatment STAT.

Clad in hazmat suits, FDNY hazardous materials specialists sealed off his fifth-floor apartment around noon. Cops blocked off West 147th Street between Broadway and Amsterdam after he was taken to the hospital.


https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/craigwgf.jpg?w=300

Dr. Spencer and his girlfriend Morgan Dixon

[Bob]

Mali, Africa - first Ebola case confirmed

The Malian government has confirmed the first case of Ebola in the country.

It said a two-year-old girl had tested positive for the haemorrhagic virus. Reports say she recently returned from the neighbouring Guinea.

The Malian Health Minister, Ousmane Kone said the infected girl was being treated in the western town of Kayes.


http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/355/westafrica.png

closeup of location


http://chanlo.com/images/kayes-mali.jpg

This little girl was about 300 MILES from the Guinea border - how did she get that far from a hot zone area to get infected and come to Mali?

[KaiLee]

They are telling us, ears to listen folks. Yesterday on msm in Aus there was an interview with an "expert" of some sort. I was astounded when he informed that a co-alition of African mining companies have been meeting to contain Ebola outbreaks in each of their respective regions of responsibility. They commenced this program a year ago. Boom-tish....surely the punch line to a massive joke.

[Bob]

Breaking - A preliminary Ebola test has come back positive for a doctor who recently traveled from West Africa and is being isolated at a New York City Hospital, according to an official briefed on the case - see post above: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=892441&viewfull=1#post892441

hmm, this is a bit of an uncomfortable totty NY has to deal with.. oye..

UPDATE

Emergency Center Activation happening in Brooklyn NOW. People attempted to be tracked down who may have come in contact with the Dr. when he went "bowling" - he did not do anything to attempt self quarantine, and potentially has exposed people in NY.

Incident commander has been setup. Intelligence sharing is the plan of attack, start with CIRCLES and identify, where and with whom the Dr. came in contact. (This would be a slightly mutated strain than Thomas Duncan had in Dallas, because of viral mutation, so the EXACT virology is not known.. It is assume it will have the same major characteristics of Ebola Zaire which was used in the British Study to verify that Ebola IS able to infect another by the airborne route .. (see posts on previous page of this thread)..)

Multi-agencies are now being activated.


CDC has said it would send it's staff to any potential 'outbreak' - but it has been stated earlier, in this thread, that a handful of STATES have basically been saying they will "handle it themselves" (CDC's misinformation warrants the States finding out and doing what is needed).


It will be interesting to see if the STATES can still do what they feel is needed OR IF the Federal Government WILL step in.. Will the NEW EBOLA CZAR (who has no medical experience) deal with this? As far as outbreak, it takes 1 person to create an outbreak.. Multi-ple case outbreaks can happen, depending on how virulant was the Dr. when he went out in public. (to be determined).

Dr. Spencer's details as with other hospital provided details is generally ZERO to the public, keeping people in the dark.. (which obviously with the high profile disease, doing such ONLY increases public FEAR, something that should be avoided...)

Here is the basic data from the Emergency Conference (live transcripting)

"there is no reason for the people of NY to be alarmed.. (standard dialog), only by bodily fluids, should NOT be alarmed if you haven't contacted the Dr.'s bodily fluids..

"every hospital in the City IS prepared for Ebola.. (spin, see Dallas data, and CDC report hospitals are NOT prepared, although Bellevue IS as good as it gets for a facility designated to use in NY short of the COLD SPRING HARBOR bioweapons labs on Long Island)

Governor said there are 8 hospitals in NY State prepared to handle Ebola should such appear at their hospital.

(IT is also possible that the BIOWEAPONS facility off Long Island, (Orient Point area, OAK ISLAND) could be able to deal with such human infections because the labs are either BSL-4 certified, OR possibly BSL-5 certified (that level not talked about ever..) ) recall the SF "Andromeda Strain" for descriptions of the level 5 facility..

"patient is in isolation and health department is using "disease detective" and we will quarantine as necessary..

"ebola is very difficult to contract, being on the same subway car puts nobody at risk..

" working very closely with health department, be assure the best doctors in NY city are dealing with this..

" a full coordinated effort night and day has been happening in NY doing drills, we are as ready as one could be for this circumstance..

" dallas was unfortunate.. NY city has the advantage of learning from the Dallas experience..

"we have 5000 health care workers who have been drilling for specifically this moment..

"this doctor handled himself accordingly (that's why he went bowling yesterday without taking precautions... spin in other words being spewed)

"since no bodily fluids were transferred nobody has anything to be concerned about..

"CDC is coming to NY to help.. and have reviewed the NY health teams procedures...

"i know its frightening, but its here in NY, its a dense place, the more FACTS YOU KNOW
the LESS FRIGHTENING this situation is ...

" there were only 4 people that he came in contact with, and we are in contact with them...

" wish the best for the Dr. and we are confident we are doing everything we need to be doing, thanks to all the teams working on this - proof is in the pudding.. congrats.."

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Health commissioner:

"we got the city hospitals all prepared, been working with CDC and are convinced we are ok.

"what we know about the DR. This is an evolving situation, what we know.. he is isolated in Bellevue.. 12th october, completed work in Guinea, left 14th, got into JFK NY 17th.. HAD no symptoms, took his temp, was all fine.. 21st started presenting symptoms, but on the 22nd he became more ill - high fever started about 10AM east coast time..

"he went on a 3 mile jog, around his residence, he took the A trail number 1 train, the L train.. then he went to the bowling alley in Williamsburg.. but only today after doing all that did he exhibit high fever..

"the uber car driver that took him there is not considered at risk and not being monitored..

"public health labs did the ebola test locally in NY.

(no worries, nothing to see here.. is the paraphrased message, its all under control)

New doctor speaking: "We have been preparing for this for months"
"all his medical problems ARE being addressed. REITERATING, you CAN ONLY GET EBOLA BY BEING EXPOSED TO BODILY FLUIDS..

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Former mayor, the NY governor,then reiterates, WE THANK the Federal officials for their extraordinary help, and the feds will supply whatever is need to deal with this..

FED doctor Frieden CDC, cuts in by telephone, and says again, "IT IS ONLY SPREAD BY BODILY FLUIDS, and all they are concerned about is the health care workers carrying for the Dr. in Bellevue.. No worries, the CDC RESPONSE TEAM is in route to Bellevue to help with this..

"NO WORRIES" is reiterated over and over...

"ONLY the 4 people who were in the DR's immediate close presence will be monitored for 21 days.. (no mention of the Dr.'s girl friend previously being said to be in quarantine, not just monitoring - so apparently Dr. Frieden, who had known about the airborne data possibly as early as 2010, doesn't tell the full story again..)

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Health department woman cuts in - "YES he did bowl there at the bowling alley in Williamsburg.. SO NO fever therefore he is fine, he didn't infect anyone.." (again using OLD DATA the "script", nodding to the camera... to say that for sure is irresponsible according to current research, see CIDRAP Ebola commentary dated September 17, 2014 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=892236&viewfull=1#post892236) by Lisa M. Brosseau ScD and Rachael Jones PhD... NOR did they evaluate the New England Journal of Medicine study of recent Ebola-Zaire Patients, CAN BE INFECTIOUS, 13% at least without showing HIGH TEMPERATURE..)..

(The whole press conference provided that same statement, "nothing to worry about", its all under control and the CDC will oversea what is needed. ALL health care workers feel that they are prepared to do this right the governor says.. (infection control, equipment, drugs(?), abundance of training). )

--Health dept woman speaks up, "yea he went to a restaurant, had dinner, jogging, went to "the Gutter" the bowling alley, it wasn't contagious you know, extremely unlikely probability close to nil when he took the subway system..Go ahead ride the subway, nothing will happen, no infection..

-- the girlfriend is not in quarantine is the re-clarification but is in "isolation"

-- the message is this doctor did nothing except for use the CDC protocol, take temperature twice a day.. Right now discussion with those in the know are saying all doctors, people who have come in contact with Ebola Patients in West Africa MUST self quarantine for 21 days to be sure..

According to the PR put out by the people at the Press conference, this doctor came down with symptoms, 10 days after leaving Guinea - this disease should be presenting at about 6-8 days (mean average 6.3 days) on average, based on statistics reported - there fore the Dr. could be with live virus 2-4 days ago.. at least while he was at the bowling alley, restaurant, and subway..

FROM CDC data (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6303a1.htm) -

Incubation State
Data from two sources (2,4) were used to construct a lognormal probability distribution of being in the incubation state (Figure 4, Table 1). The mean incubation period derived from this calculation is 6.3 days (standard deviation [SD]: 3.31 days), with a median of 5.5 days and a 99th percentile at 21 days.

CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta on the phone during a live interview (he is CNN's official consultant Dr.) was quite livid, saying this DR. SHOULD HAVE self quarantined for 21 days and not gone out.. Not had exposure with friends and his girl friend BECAUSE he was in close contact a treatment medical doctor in the HotZone..

This is a very key point of discussion, should those in contact, deliberately in contact with Ebola patients in West Africa be required to be quarantined for 21 days? Animal quarantine is done all the time for safety of the rest of the herd. HSA is supposed to be monitoring for 21 days all incoming people from West Africa coming into the States. Did this doctor escape under the Radar?

[Bob]

And now Nurse Nina Pham - Ebola Free :)

Amazing what rapid response treatment, a bit of Dr. Brantly's miracle blood serum can do, and a world-class biosafety facility and trained staff provide..

Nurse Nina Pham Ebola Free, Glad to Go Home to Dog

And is that type of care available in Africa?

(Source (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/nurse-nina-pham-contracted-ebola-now-virus-free/story?id=26406480))

Haves and Have-NOT's - polarity



http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/ap_nina_pham_hug_jc_141024_16x9_992.jpg

in a photo-op for the NIH - Nina Pham is hugged by Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, outside NIH in Bethesda, Md., Oct. 24, 2014

There is a strong message obviously being conveyed, and it is pretty clear in the pix what the intent is in the photo-op..

Pham praises Dr. Brantly for blood serum that saved her life: http://www.kvia.com/news/health/urgent-ebola-nina-pham-brantly-plasma/29318162

[Bob]

Uganda - No new Marburg cases detected

Marburg virus, also in the same family as Ebola, probably the senior member of the filovirus (threadlike) group which recognized in the late 60's, had earlier within the last month appeared again in Uganda.. (mentioned in this thread).

At present time, Uganda is reporting that there have been no newer cases detected and reported of Marburg. Uganda has passed more than 21 days since the last confirmed infection.

[Bob]

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/10/17/ebola-us.JPG?itok=-H9hrhpy

Protester Jeff Hulbert of Annapolis, Maryland, holds a sign reading "Stop the Flights" as he demonstrates in favor of a travel ban to stop the spread of the Ebola virus, in front of the White House

North Korea says no visitors -


North Korea will institute a ban on international tourists in response to the Ebola outbreak beginning Friday, according to China-based travel companies who said Pyongyang informed them about the measure on Thursday. The move by the isolationist state is a particularly severe one, but North Korea is far from the first nation to restrict travel as fear of the virus has swept across the globe.

“We have just been informed by our partners in North Korea that tomorrow North Korea will stop accepting international tourists due to the threat of the Ebola virus, effectively closing its borders."

CURRENT NEW COUNTRIES and updates to travel bans from WEST AFRICA


Antigua and Barbuda on Friday imposed an entry ban on nationals of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. The ban will also apply on anyone who travels to the country within 21 days of visiting any of the aforementioned nations.
Belize announced on Saturday that it will stop issuing visas for nationals of Guinea, Liberia and Nigeria. Sierra Leone nationals, who do not need visas to enter Belize, a fellow Commonwealth state, will also be banned. In addition, travelers who have visited any of the aforementioned countries in the past 30 days will be prohibited from entering the country.
Colombia imposed an entry ban from Oct. 14 on any traveler who has visited Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal or Sierra Leone in the past four weeks. The restriction would also reportedly apply to Colombian nationals.
The Dominican Republic has banned entry to travelers who have been in the following countries in the past 30 days: Sierra Leone, Senegal, Liberia, Guinea, and Nigeria, as well as any countries that the World Health Organization has deemed to be affected by the Ebola virus.
Guyana announced on Oct. 16 that visas will not be issued to nationals from Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria. Furthermore, health officials will screen travelers who have visited these countries in the six weeks prior to their arrival in Guyana.
Haiti has banned (PDF) entry to travelers who have been to Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone in the past 28 days. Travelers who have been to these countries more than 28 days before travel to Haiti must present a government-certified health certificate and the results of a blood test for the Ebola virus upon arrival. It is uncertain at this time how these measures will be carried out or enforced. International SOS is monitoring the situation.
Jamaica imposed an entry ban from Oct. 16 for travelers arriving from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, as well as those who have visited these countries within the four weeks prior to their arrival. In addition, any Jamaican national who travels to the aforementioned countries will be quarantined for 28 days on return.
Panama on Wednesday banned the entry of travelers who have visited Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone in the past 21 days. The ban will remain in place until the three countries are declared Ebola-free.
St. Kitts and Nevis have restricted the entry of nationals from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. Similar measures will also be applied to travelers who have visited these countries in the 21 days prior to arrival.
St. Lucia has banned visitors from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. The government has also announced that, in addition to a visa, visitors from Nigeria will be required to present a recent medical certificate clearing them of the virus. No further details are available at this stage, though we are investigating further.
St. Vincent and the Grenadines has banned visitors from Guinea, Nigeria and Sierra Leone.
Suriname has banned entry to foreign travelers who have been to Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone in the past 21 days, unless they can present an "internationally recognized health certificate" clearing them of the virus. No further details are available at this time.
Trinidad and Tobago announced on Oct. 16 that it would deny entry to nationals of Democratic Republic of the Congo, Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria and Sierra Leone. In addition, travelers who have visited any of the aforementioned countries in the past six weeks will be quarantined for 21 days upon arrival.
The United States announced that beginning Wednesday, any passengers beginning their travels in Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea will only be able to enter the country through the following airports: JFK International Airport (JFK, New York state), Newark International Airport (EWR, New Jersey), Dulles International Airport (IAD, Virginia), Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (ATL, Georgia) or Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD, Illinois).
Kenya on Oct. 10 announced that it had closed the Suam border crossing (Trans-Nzoia county) with Uganda due to reports of an Ebola-related death in Bukwo district (Uganda). Earlier, the Kenyan authorities on Aug. 19 suspended entry of passengers traveling from and through Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, excluding health professionals supporting efforts to contain the outbreak and Kenyan citizens.
Cape Verde on Oct. 9 announced that it would now deny entry to non-resident foreigners coming from countries with ‘intense Ebola transmission' – Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia - or who have been to those countries in the previous 30 days.
Mauritius on Oct. 8 banned entry to all travelers who have visited Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Liberia, Senegal and Congo (DRC) in the last two months, rather than just citizens of those countries, as was the case previously. The authorities have announced that entry restrictions for travelers from Senegal and Nigeria will be lifted on Oct. 10 and 17 respectively, if no further cases of Ebola infection are reported.
Seychelles on Oct. 8 suspended entry to travelers who have visited Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Nigeria or Congo (DRC) 28 days prior to their journey, with the exception of Seychellois citizens.
Côte d'Ivoire has reopened in early October its borders with Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, which were closed in Augusta.
Equatorial Guinea is denying entry to travelers whose journeys originated in countries affected by Ebola.
Cameroon on Sept. 17 reopened its borders to travelers from Senegal. An Aug. 18 ban remains in place on travel from Nigeria, Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Southern African Development Community (SADC) member states – Angola, Botswana, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Lesotho, Madagascar, Malawi, Mauritius, Mozambique, Seychelles, South Africa, Swaziland, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe – have stated that travelers coming from Ebola-affected countries (according to the World Health Organization) would be monitored for 21 days and that travel to member countries for any gatherings would be discouraged. The SADC provided no details as to how member countries will carry out the associated screening and follow-up and it is likely that countries will have individual processes. There are also reports that some countries require health documentation for entry. Travelers are advised to contact the embassy or health ministry of their destination country to clarify their individual circumstances and prepare their trips accordingly.
South Sudan has placed a ban on travelers coming from Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia or Congo (DRC), or those who have travelled to those countries in the preceding 21 days. According to the Health Ministry, entry of travelers from Nigeria depends on their travel history in that country and whether they have visited Ebola-affected areas.
Namibia's Foreign Ministry on Sept. 11 announced that foreigners traveling from countries affected by Ebola would be prohibited from entering the country.
Gambia on Sept. 1 suspended entry of persons who have visited Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone or Nigeria in the 21 days prior to travel. Those traveling indirectly from any of the aforementioned countries to Gambia via another country also come under this measure.
Gabon stated on Aug. 22 that it is restricting the issuance of entry visas to travelers from Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria on a case-by-case basis.
Rwanda, according to the U.S. Department of State on Aug. 22, has banned entry to travelers who have visited Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone in the 22 days prior to travel.
Senegal on Aug. 21 closed its land border with Guinea, while the country's sea and air borders will also be closed to vessels and aircraft from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Chad on Aug. 21 closed its land border with Nigeria at Lake Chad. The country previously reportedly banned the entry of any travelers originating or transiting through Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria or Sierra Leone, with airlines serving the country reportedly rerouting flights.
South Africa on Aug. 21 restricted entry for all non-citizens traveling from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. The government subsequently clarified that this was not a blanket ban and could be waived for "absolutely essential travel."
Gambia has banned the entry of flights from Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria and Sierra Leone.
Nigeria has suspended flights to the country operated by Gambian national carrier Gambia Bird.

[avid]

http://www.rense.com/general96/deadmicro.html

Just a reminder about all the dead microbiologists......

This list was originally compiled for inclusion in Jim Marrs’ 2010 book The Trillion-Dollar Conspiracy (originally titled Zombie Nation), but was deleted by the publisher as being too lengthy and not relevant.
In light of the growing fear over the Ebola virus, it might be worthwhile to note that by mid-2009, nearly 100 scientists around the world ­ most of them microbiologists ­ had died, many under suspicious circumstances.
Researcher Mark J. Harper compiled the following list. “While some of these deaths may be purely coincidental and seem to pose no connection, many of these deaths are highly suspicious and appear not to be random acts of violence. Many are just plain murders,” commented Harper.
Mark Harper’s dead scientists and microbiologists list: Email to author, August 20, 2009; http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6521
While it is understood that not everyone on this list died an unnatural death, the sheer number and scope is breathtaking. This compilation of biologist and microbiologist deaths indeed causes one to wonder if someone, somewhere does not want men and women alive who may see through pandemic scare tactics and, worse yet from their standpoint, be able to produce effective antidotes.

[Bob]

Outside the home in Harlem of Dr. Spencer US's newest Ebola Patient


http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/AP_EBOLAPAT_141024_DG_4x3_992.jpg

New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center described Spencer as:

A "dedicated humanitarian ... who went to an area of medical crisis to help a desperately underserved population."

Spencer's apartment in NY, Harlem district, was sealed off after it was cleared.

Since Dr. Spencer has tested positive, a team will therefore decontaminate his apartment, NY officials have said.

Where did he go prior to his "fever" being noticed? (did he take his temp while at the bowling alley, at the restaurant, would you?..)


Four people that Spencer had close contact with -- his fiancée, two friends and an Uber driver, according to Bassett.

His fiancée, identified by a family friend as Morgan Dixon, is under quarantine at Bellevue Hospital and his two friends are "quarantined at home", New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Mary Bassett has stated.


None of the people under quarantine are showing Ebola symptoms (and they wouldn't "right now" be showing anything, considering how long they would have been exposed if there was virus being expelled from Dr. Spencer - 6 days is the typical active window for this strain for something to start showing up, at worst case 21 days). The Uber driver isn't considered to be at risk for contracting the virus.

(Recall the taxi that Thomas Duncan traveled in overseas, and the probable infection source while decontaminating the taxi in Liberia, the NBC freelance camerman, Ashoka Mukpo both infected..)

Dr Spencer completed his service with active patients in West Africa for Doctors without Borders Oct.12, then left Guinea on Oct. 14 and traveled through Brussels, Belgium, and arrived at JFK Airport in New York, USA, on Oct. 17.

Dr Spencer reports that he did not have a measurable fever until Thursday morning Oct. 23rd., while he was at his home. He said two days before the fever Oct. 21, he was feeling fatigued.


The day before the fever though, even while feeling fatigued, he ventured out, into the Public..

On Oct. 21, Spencer visited a coffee stand called Blue Bottle Coffee at the High Line park in Manhattan and a restaurant called the Meatball Shop, according to Health official Bassett.

The following day Oct. 22, Spencer went on a 3-mile run in a park along Manhattan’s west side.

Then after that decided to go to Brooklyn to a bowling alley and bar called "The Gutter", officials said. During that time Spencer took the A, L and 1 subway trains. And the next morning Spencer developed a fever and called it in and was immediately transported to Bellevue into isolation.

There has been frequent discussion and policy implemented in AFRICA and in the Caribbean countries, and South American countries to BAN travelers FROM the hotzone west African countries, and in some cases, allowing 21 day watch periods, or 21 day quarantines for travelers from the affected areas..

To let someone create a situation of "public exposure to a known pathogenic disease", not self quarantining, and knowing that one had worked with Ebola Patients, not just having come from a hotzone country... leads one to question the policy of "open doors", non monitoring used by many of the remaining countries who have not instituted the travel restrictions.

[Bob]

** Potential wildfire alert - MALI - Both Bamako and up to Kayes


In post #701 above it was mentioned that Mali has its first official Ebola Case - a two year old girl.. Similarly in Guinea back in December 2013 a young child was brought into the clinic sick with Ebola and the wildfire in West Africa began.

The WHO: Multiple opportunities for girl in Mali with Ebola to expose others - in other words, they are a bit freaked out.. The infection was obtained apparently over 300 miles away in Guinea.



The girl first went to a clinic Tuesday after entering the country from Guinea with her grandmother, WHO Assistant Director-General Marie-Paule Kieny said at a news conference in Geneva, Switzerland.

WHO said it was working to confirm media reports that the child's mother showed Ebola-like symptoms before her death.

The girl was diagnosed with Ebola in Mali on Thursday, having been brought into the country from neighboring Guinea, where the current catastrophic outbreak is believed to have started.

Health Ministry spokeswoman Markatie Daou said the dozens of people who had contact with the girl have not shown any symptom related to the virus as of Friday.

More than 40 people are still being monitored, she said.

They include 10 medical workers who came into contact with the girl in the city of Kayes, west of the capital of Bamako, WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic said.

Kayes in Mali has a population of about 128,000 people.

It is interesting to note, Mali is where a vaccine trial is scheduled to start in December, for Ebola.. At least 10,000-20,000 people will be vaccinated in the 'test'.

A bit about Kayes Mali -

Kayes lies on the Route Nationale 1 (RN1) highway and is 612 km (380 mi) by road from Bamako and 96 km (60 mi) from the border with Senegal.

The town has an international airport (Kayes Airport), and lies on the Dakar-Niger Railway which offered regional passenger train service to Bamako three times a week via Kati and Diamou as of 2013.

The area is rich in gold and iron. (mineral wealth)

Prior to French colonial expansion, Kayes was a small village.

Its location on the path of the future Dakar-Niger Railway, and the French need for trade centers, led to the creation of the Kayes market town in 1881.

It remains a transport hub, primarily for Senegalese trade, to this day.

A few pictures -


http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/18660261.jpg

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/7583207.jpg

Update - sadly the little girl died today, Friday.

Health officials told the World Health Organization (WHO), according to a report released Friday, that she was accompanied to Mali by her grandmother.

The girl’s mother was reported to have died a few weeks earlier, but WHO could not yet confirm that the grandmother went to Kissidougou, in southern Guinea, for the funeral.

The pair returned to Mali by public transportation and arrived in the capital, Bamako, where they stayed for two hours before moving on to Kayes.

The girl had begun bleeding from the nose before she left Guinea, the report found, “meaning that the child was symptomatic during their travels through Mali” and that “multiple opportunities for exposure occurred when the child was visibly symptomatic.” The initial investigation identified 43 close and unprotected contacts, including 10 health workers.

The Ministry of Health and Public Hygiene said in a statement it had “taken all necessary steps to prevent the spread of the virus” and the government called for calm, claiming it had identified and isolated those who had contact with the child and begun monitoring for symptoms.

Tracing this particular case is “a work-in-progress,” Isabelle Nuttall, the WHO’s director of Global Capacities, Alert and Response, tells TIME. WHO had already sent a team of 10 to Mali at the beginning of the week to work on mobilization activities and preparedness operations, and is sending more as part of a rapid response team.

[Bob]

I want to thank my colleague, Joby Warrick

He is an American journalist who won a Pulitzer Prize. He began working for The Washington Post in 1996, writing about the Middle East, diplomacy and national security. He has also covered the intelligence community, Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) proliferation and the environment, and served as a member of the Post’s investigative unit.

The Overseas Press Club of America gave him their 2003 award for best newspaper interpretation of international affairs for his articles about proliferation threats.

In September 2002, Warrick was one of the first journalists to publish reports casting doubt on the Bush administration's claims that aluminum tubes discovered in Iraq were appropriate for use in uranium centrifuges.

He has just published an excellent article discussing what we have also in depth discussed in this thread, just WHO may be behind the bioweapons projects, in the world today, which supposedly were by TREATY signed early on, that nobody will be making bioweapons..

Joby's full article is HERE (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/ebola-crisis-rekindles-concerns-about-secret-research-in-russian-military-labs/2014/10/23/ce409716-5945-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html)

I will highlight some points from his article below, click on his article for the full picture.

One may recall having read about the ex-Soviet weapons labs being STILL operating, under various innocuous labels designed to mask their full intent.


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The Siberian complex known as Vector was a top Soviet research facility for bioweapons. Today, its scientists study defenses against Ebola and other pathogens. A lab worker accidentally contracted Ebola in 2004 while working on vaccines. (Joby Warrick/The Washington Post)

The 1996 incident might have been forgotten except for the pathogen involved — a highly lethal strain of Ebola virus — and where the incident occurred: inside a restricted Russian military lab that was once part of the Soviet Union’s biological weapons program. Years ago, the same facility in the Moscow suburb of Sergiev Posad cultivated microbes for use as tools of war. Today, much of what goes on in the lab remains unknown.

She was an ordinary lab technician with an uncommonly dangerous assignment: drawing blood from Ebola-infected animals in a secret military laboratory. When she cut herself at work one day, she decided to keep quiet, fearing she’d be in trouble. Then the illness struck.

“By the time she turned to a doctor for help, it was too late,” one of her overseers, a former bio­weapons scientist, said of the accident years afterward. The woman died quickly and was buried, according to one account, in a “sack filled with calcium hypochlorite,” or powdered bleach.

The fatal lab accident and a similar one in 2004 offer a rare glimpse into a 35-year history of Soviet and Russian interest in the Ebola virus. The research began amid intense secrecy with an ambitious effort to assess Ebola’s potential as a biological weapon, and it later included attempts to manipulate the virus’s genetic coding, U.S. officials and researchers say.


The bioweapons program officially ended in 1991, but Ebola research continued in Defense Ministry laboratories, where it remains largely invisible despite years of appeals by U.S. officials to allow greater transparency.

Now, at a time when the world is grappling with an unprecedented Ebola crisis, the wall of secrecy surrounding the labs looms still larger, arms-control experts say, feeding conspiracy theories and raising suspicions.

“We have ample accounts from defectors that these are not just strains from nature, but strains that have been deliberately enhanced,” she said.

Other countries, including the United States, also conduct military research on defending against biological threats, including Ebola — a fact that draws criticism from some health experts and charges of hypocrisy from Russia. Pentagon officials counter that U.S. bio­defense laboratories are subject to oversight and regular inspections by outside agencies.

[Bob]

Despite scores of nations across the world saying that they WILL take precautions, monitoring of persons coming from the hotzone countries Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea, Fauci from the NIH specialty group National Institutes of health Allergy division sticks to his guns (and apparently covering his butt for allowing disinformation to rule within his organization...)

Studies from prestigious groups who know what they are doing, are being published that were sent to Fauci's organization AND CDC (Centers for disease 'control' US) saying Fauci's and CDC's protocols are OLD DATA, out of date, not able to deal with the current situation of infection from this particular strain of filovirus.. (Ebola Zaire (mutated strain).

Fauci has to justify himself to the world else risk being cited for many numerous criminal acts of failing feduciary responsibility - in the minimum to keep up to date with current research and take necessary steps.. Apparently Fauci and thereby his organization following his directions continue to say - NO QUARANTINES because it will hurt travel TO WEST AFRICA..

Many nations' health departments and governments, have stated, NO TRAVELERS FROM the countries in the hotzone, will be allowed into their countries. It is well known with protecting a HERD of animals, that if some members of the herd have been exposed to something deadly to the rest of the herd, that the WHOLE HERD will be quarantined for the safety of ALL other herd members.. It is policy that has been done in proper animal husbandry (read stewardship).. Extreme quarantine to the HERD means elimination usually by BURNING the WHOLE HERD occurs to stop the outbreak, i.e. BURN OUT...

FAUCI and his cohort Frieden at CDC both are advocating ALLOW PEOPLE EXPOSED to enter the US borders, violating common sense, and violating the animal husbandry measures of protecting the rest of the herd.. The behavior is pretty clear, covering their butts because of allowing OLD DATA to be used to set infection control protocols.. AND despite documentation being present to them, the only statement coming out of Frieden of CDC was oops.. we used the improper protection data..

(Source (http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/10/26/health-ebola-usa-idINKBN0IF0KM20141026))

Irresponsibility appears to be happening with at least one other 'health care worker' a nurse coming back from Sierra Leone who was complaining adamantly that she should not have been put in quarantine... again, stuck on "stupid" why the switch from erring on safety to saying 'my rights are being violated to put me in quarantine against my wishes...' Think about that copping out - saying their "rights are being violated" explaining that CDC says "no fever.. no worries" as her excuse.. And Frieden and Fauci smile, another puppet follows the government's indoctrination program.. "we are god.. we know all and say this is how it is (ignore the guy behind the curtain pulling the levers...)..to follow is good.. to question authority is wrong.." (hmm)

And some of the media looks at that "official stance", scratches their heads, and looks at if they will continue to have "a job after" citing the obvious... trying to point out "people you are being lied to (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=891388&viewfull=1#post891388)" by the medical groups... what contrast can be seen is how PROGRAMMED some of the 'staff' in the medical community is, trained by the medico's to behave as a robot, goose-step, violating common sense, in light of sucking up to the authority that gave them their 'license to "practice" medicine'.

Some of the medico's even in the MSM are saying this lying has to stop, the People are being lied to by the "official authority"..

IS it ANY wonder that the People distrust medicine when they can SEE these types of lies, the drama, the politics? To be able to share with people, and allow for education of exactly what is happening with viruses, how they are used as bioweapons, how they can be combatted, and how vaccinations can be shut down using some simple antiviral concepts... can help to separate one from the "white robed wanna-be gods" using medicine to threaten people with death over life. I know this personally from being in that "system" in the late 60's and early 70's and recently having dealt with loosing a loved one, and almost loosing another until I took action personally against the medical hospital system.. I got my loved one out of the monstrocity machine, and absolutely nothing changed with the monstrocity machine called BIG MEDICAL TREATMENT...

The modality is not about education in that system, it is about creating more controls, and spreading disinformation to allow for more after-the-effect "treatments" to ensure that they are 1) funded 2) able to have more control of people's health, 3) to keep people constantly struggling trying to cope with diseases..

The goal is not solving or curing - that is specifically AGAINST protocol - the goal in that community is 1) practice medicine, 2) put bandaids into a system which requires CONTINUAL treatment, and continual JOB SECURITY for the medicos performing the practices set by the agencies.. treat forever... never SOLVE..

Fauci's actions and Frieden's opens up a MARKET for continual medical treatment, vaccinations in the minimum, and of course more control on who will or will not get medical treatment.. Information continually is hidden by those agencies detailing the real issues at hand, such as how to properly quarantine to prevent harming the rest of the population.. treatments which can STOP viral infections are continually hidden, or suppressed.. Some companies, as are some COUNTRIES and some States are saying ENOUGH with the non-professional behaviour by the agencies who supposedly are there to help the people - they are there for helping themselves stay in power, and continue to foster spin and yes, intimidation using their "authority" of medical rank - because they believe the people are STUPID, and can't understand how viruses work, or how infection can be stopped.. think about that.. those saying a virus isn't existing are playing into the agency's hands, allowing for a situation to be setup where more controls can and will be used, through in the minimum vaccinations, forced vaccinations..


(Reuters) - Quarantines imposed on travelers coming from Ebola-affected countries in West Africa could discourage American health workers from going there to help fight the epidemic, a senior U.S. medical official said on Sunday, warning such measures were "a little bit draconian."

New York, New Jersey and Illinois imposed 21-day mandatory quarantines in the last two days for anyone arriving with a risk of having contracted Ebola in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea. They are the three West African countries that have borne the brunt of an epidemic that has killed nearly 5,000 people.

But critics worry the policies, going beyond federal regulations and intended to ease public concern over the spread of the disease, will just make matters worse.

"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made but we have to be careful that there are unintended consequences," said Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

Because it may hinder people from going there.. That is about as asinine a statement that can be made. A person going there as a medico KNOWS the risks and would gladly perform a voluntary self quarantine to ensure safety for the rest of the population.. SIMPLE LOGIC Fauci, but apparently that would again point out, that FAUCI's and Friedens (CDC)' directions were WRONG, opening up legal culpability.. And covering their asses the bureaucrats refuse to be wrong, or allow for correction, thereby putting at risk, the health care workers, AND those people whom they are allegedly responsible for, in the Country where they work.

[Bob]

Possible impeachment (http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-might-kill-80-america/) grounds against Obama and administration officials

Administration "officials" have started threatening the States that have err'd on the side of caution.

(Source) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/nyregion/ebola-quarantine.html?_r=0)


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The governors (rightly so and using common sense) in NY and NJ have said, 21 day mandatory quarantine for those medical people who have had exposure or worked with Ebola patients in Africa..

The US Government has said YOU ARE WRONG, the Governors have in essence said, federal authorities cannot step in to violate what States have said are good safety precautions..

The obvious data is Dr. Spencer having just gotten back from Africa came back with Ebola and followed CDC protocols just taking his temperature to report a possible situation - CDC data their OWN data say the "mean average" time for this strain 6.3 days - potential infection symptoms can be there (in the body present in fluids) at lower levels (possibly not even a high body temperature could be present according to New England journal of medicine statistical analysis for this Ebola-Zaire (mutated) strain).. and therefore the person represents the potential to INFECT OTHERS.. on or about 6.3 days after exposure..

- It has been pointed out "breath" is moist (*) - Q: where does the moisture come from? A: "Bodily fluids", CDC drumbeat (read my lips says Freiden, read my lips says Fauci NIH, read their lips says Obama) - you can only get it from bodily fluids.. (dohh)


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Potentially then for at least 2 days he was a viable source of infection according to the CDC statistics.. when he finally was "high enough" for the "fever" he called it in..

The governors of Florida AND Illinois have said they are instituting MANDATORY 21 day quarantine for health workers coming back from the hotzone countries.. Again erring on the side of caution.

In Africa the People in the bush are not taking hot showers and don't necessarily have flush toilets and fancy beds, but this current nurse screaming her head off 'saying her rights are being violated - that she can't take a hot shower..' misses the point about the African People's 'rights' to good food, health, shelter.. Apparently thinking only for herself, and dramatizing how much she is sucking up to the CDC for whatever perk she will get for "toeing the party line.." ignores the basic medical protocols established years ago - never risk the rest of the herd...

* Note - Every child in the climates where winter happens, knows in the winter one can see one's breath (one is seeing the moisture made visible by the low temperatures)... So what is it, these "officials" spouting only by bodily fluids are trying their hardest to have the People forget about the "range" of the moisture in the breath? (Breathing into a freezer one can do this test themselves if all they are exposed to is a hot climate.)


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Notice how FAR the moisture cloud reaches between the two groups, commingling moisture.

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Children know about the moisture in their breath. AND have seen the range how far their breath goes and for how long the moisture stays in the air.. This is not from sneezing, or coughing, but merely BREATHING !

Why is CDC and NIH treating the People this way? To bypass common sense? It is insulting.


impeach reference: http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-might-kill-80-america/

various pundits weigh in

- http://www.teaparty.org/judge-jeanine-rips-obamas-bumbling-response-ebola-crisis-tell-us-truth-59187/

1/3 public in survey says impeach? - http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/265388/speedreads-poll-a-third-of-americans-want-to-impeach-obama - "In a new CNN poll released Friday, a whopping 33 percent of respondents said that President Obama should be "impeached and removed from office. The poll surveyed 1,012 American adults."

Governor Christie - New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (R) on Sunday defended his state's mandatory Ebola quarantine policy, saying the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would "eventually come around to our point of view on this."

[Bob]

WHO predict 10,000 cases a week before Christmas.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/ebola/who-warns-there-could-be-10000-new-cases-of-ebola-a-week-by-christmas-30666334.html


http://www.independent.ie/world-news/ebola/460-irish-citizens-are-living-in-countries-worst-hit-by-virus-30665490.html

In October, now - documented cases over 10,000 - (questions are being asked about the virulence of the current mutated strains, or if house to house documentation has revealed the hidden cases..)

(Source (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/25/ebola-cases-10000-mali-death))

Global Ebola cases pass 10,000 as Mali becomes latest nation

The number of cases was now 10,141 but that the true figure was much higher, as many families were keeping relatives at home rather than taking them to treatment centres and are burying their dead without official clearance. It said many of the centres were overcrowded.

The latest report showed a rise of 400 cases in the last three days in Sierra Leone and Guinea but no change in the number of cases and deaths in the worst- affected country, Liberia.

It comes as an analysis of Ebola figures by development consultants the African Governance Initiative (AGI) suggest that even with current efforts to build more hospital facilities in the affected nations, there will be no medical personnel to staff them and there will be a shortage of more than 6,000 hospital beds in Guinea and Sierra Leone by December if the WHO’s worst-case scenario figure of 10,000 new cases a week by the end of the year is reached.


WHO has acknowledged that its numbers are “vastly” underestimated.

[avid]

I'm sorry to say this, but to me this is such an 'engineered' 'plague', with threats to control any populace. Can we really believe this hype? Stupid erroneous alarms on major media - ignore it!
The slime-green false-flag colours are now out-dated (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/eric-duncan-photographed-as-director-of-libera-peace-corps-3051342.html). Sandy Hook and Ebola-hype were all 'slime green'
Just ensure we have a healthy diet, and take care - I'm sure most of us will not be 'smittled' by the giant deliberately evil hoax from hell. DO NOT have any vaccines - especially for children, or anyone!!!

[Bob]

WhiteHouse apparently taking note that Governors are going to urge members of Congress to seriously consider impeachment proceedings against the President and appointed officials...


The White House on Sunday said that it is working on "new guidelines for health care workers" returning from Ebola-stricken states, according to a senior administration official.

The decision comes as governors in Illinois, New Jersey and New York and Florida announced over the weekend that they (themselves while exercising STATES RIGHTS) were instituting quarantines for aid workers returning from Ebola-stricken West Africa.

The Military (Pentagon) has stepped in apparently deciding to TAKE CHARGE ('if needed') see below (one week ago).. after being 'told' by Obama 'more' needs to be done.. What is interesting is that this MILITARY TEAM bypasses the so called "CDC" response team.. One begs to ask if CDC is so appropriate to solve this "issue" why is the Military needing a Specialty (medical) Swat Team to deal with this?

Questions, questions.. and who is in charge of this, ah right Spin Doctor, textmaster Eboz Czar ! (who apparently is already being bypassed by the White house telling the States to cool it exercising their rights)...


The (FIRST RESPONSE) team will be under orders to deploy within 72 hours at any time over the next month, the official said.

The Department of Health and Human Services requested the military team, and the Pentagon has given verbal approval, the official said.

The team will include five doctors, 20 nurses and five trainers, Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said in a statement.

The Pentagon has been working to determine what assistance it could offer the civilian health care sector following a White House meeting last week during which President Barack Obama said he wanted a more aggressive response, according to two Defense officials.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered chief of the Northern Command, Gen. Chuck Jacoby, “to prepare and train a 30-person expeditionary medical support team that could, if required, provide short-notice assistance to civilian medical professionals in the United States,” Kirby said.

Jacoby is already working with the military on the joint team, Kirby said, and once formed, it will head to Fort Sam Houston in Texas for up to seven days of training in infection control and personal protective equipment. The training, provided by the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, will begin “within the next week or so,” Kirby said.

The team will remain in “prepare-to-deploy” status for 30 days, he said.

It will be able to respond anywhere in the U.S. if “deemed prudent by our public health professionals,” he said.

To summarize: the Pentagon, as in the US army, will provide direct treatment to Ebola patients.

Can the Pentagon's ARMY staff now, this "swat team" over-ride and take the current patient out of Bellevue? What is happening here?

The move to impeach is serious, the move of the military to "step in and take charge" is serious.

So why would such a MILITARY response team being run by the Pentagon be needed within US borders, if there is "nothing to see here?" If States are feeling the Feds, and CDC and NIH are perfectly in control, that there is "nothing to see here" but yet, some of them are err'ing on the side of better safe than sorry?

[Bob]

Hong Kong - paying attention - 便便便便 (er oops.. no more poo poo..)

That change which was not wanting to be confronted..

Many doctors in Asia paid little attention to the disease until very recently.

But that confidence — some say complacency — was punctured two weeks ago when two nurses in Dallas and another in Madrid fell ill while treating patients who had contracted the Ebola virus in West Africa. Governments and doctors around Asia are now much more worried that the region’s densely populated cities and towns could be vulnerable if infected people start flying here from Africa.

“What happened in the States took us by surprise,” said Louis Shih, the president of the Hong Kong Medical Association.

“We were sort of feeling like, ‘Oh, don’t worry’ — the medical sector is now quite alarmed.”

便便便便 !


Senior officials in China and India have been scrambling to prepare their countries’ medical systems to cope with possible cases. In India, top officials overseeing policy on health, civil aviation, shipping and other related issues met on Oct. 16 to coordinate plans.

In China, the National Health and Family Planning Commission has called for medical institutions across the country to upgrade infection-control precautions by the end of this month.

“The first thing at the top of their minds now is Ebola,” said Malik Peiris, director of the School of Public Health at the University of Hong Kong, after meeting on Friday with senior Chinese doctors and officials from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.


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A woman at a factory in Anqiu, China, sews protective suits for medical workers.

[Bob]

Military says TROOPS WILL be quarantined 21 days - CDC says medicos should NOT be..

Right - Wrong?

Sanity - Insanity?


CDC has already produced stale data, old data not up to speed.

The military on the other hand, has kept up to date, and initiated many programs to develop countermeasures, with full knowledge of their power..


Soldiers coming back from serving in Ebola-hit Liberia will be kept in quarantine for 21 days, the U.S. Army said Monday — even though they were kept apart from any Ebola patients.

A dozen soldiers, including Major General Darryl Williams, their commander, will be confined to a housing complex with barracks, a dining hall and a gym but no outside access at their home base in Vicenza, Italy, the Defense Department said. They will not be able to return to their homes or interact with other personnel at the base, except those working in the quarantine area.

"Army Chief of Staff General Ray Odierno decided over the weekend that all U.S. soldiers would be quarantined when returning from Liberia and Senegal but the other services have not amended their rules yet.

"Soldiers and military contractors including engineers, medical specialists and logisticians are not directly treating Ebola patients but are helping build medical centers and training local health-care workers. About 600 U.S. military staff are in now but President Barack Obama has committed to send at least 4,000."

Common sense verses uncommon sense.. And people wonder about who's running the show? Trust the bureaucrats or trust what the military is setting up as policy.

Some key governors in key states have chosen to follow the military's understanding about how to keep safe the rest of it's troops.. Troops first civilians second.. Bureaucrats go for PR to spin what's needed to keep status quo driven. Rest assured if the military thinks there is an issue about infection, they WILL NOT compromise.

(Source (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/u-s-army-quarantine-soldiers-returning-ebola-hit-areas-n234916))

[Bob]

FDA authorizes 1 hour test technique for Ebola

Normally sending the sample out to a special lab, and 24-48 hours is the norm for an Ebola test.

FDA feels that 1 hour testing is important due to a concern about major epidemic(?) potential.

(Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/25/us-health-ebola-usa-fda-idUSKCN0IE0S720141025))

Salt Lake City-based BioFire, a subsidiary of medical diagnostics maker BioMerieux has developed the testing equipment, which automates most of the steps performed by hand.

The product is called BioFire Defence - The test can be performed in a hospital with BioFire lab equipment.

[Bob]

Amber Vinson is out of the Emory Hospital, and gave a news conference, bright and chipper - see Ebola can be conquered !

Just some majik blood serum, some good care, supportive assistance, and some great antiviral products.

She reiterated it is all about LEADERSHIP, the leaders know how to deal with this in other words.. (trust them was the underlying message)

She says she is appreciative and grateful for the exceptional skill and care she received. She says she would like some privacy at this point.

Friday, the other nurse Nina Pham was released from the NIH hospital in Maryland.

Both nurses were removed from the Texas hospital where they caught the Ebola infection working with Thomas Duncan (who died).

[Bob]

Australia says - west Africa VISA BAN now in effect of those persons wanting to enter Australia who are citizens from the 3 hotzone countries.

Meanwhile the US Military has instituted a quarantine policy for returning troops, choosing to err on the side of safety.

There obviously is NO issue with the military being able to transport troops TO and FROM west Africa, contrary to the CDC's and other bureaucrat's arguments that any travel restrictions would hinder care, or aid being sent.

Of all things, the United Nations criticized the U.S. states' mandatory quarantine imposed on those military returning from Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone.

Like when does the UN dictate how the US military will treat its troops?

IF the US military says they feel "safety warrants erring on the side of caution", the UN dis-satisfaction with US military policy is ludicrous - the UN, who has stated clearly the situation in West Africa is in freefall, OUT OF CONTROL.. that such doublespeak should should be listened to by anyone, the UN has failed to act SOON ENOUGH to deal with the situation.. Obviously the US military cares not one iota what the UN wishes as far as protecting its US troops..

(Source (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/28/us-health-ebola-idUSKBN0IH08T20141028))

[avid]

Why are 'troops' being sent into a 'hot-zone', and experimented on with untested vaccines? From USA and UK et al. It's ridiculous. They'll return effusing germies everywhere. Did our trusting families whose sons/daughters 'volunteered' for the military (as there was b-all left for them to do) tell their children that they would be 'guinea-pigs' in a 'hot zone'? Noone should join any military forces anywhere ever again, these poor folk are either cannon-fodder, disease-testers, or protectors of the vast CIA global drug trade. They are never 'patriots' - they are just disposable 'assets' to the big corporate agendas.
NEVER join up - anywhere - you are just being used, and are in extreme danger. Go back to farming, anything land or locally-related benefits.

[Matisse]

Ten glaring Ebola contradictions told by government authorities who think we're all just stupid



#1) We are wearing space suits just because they make us look cool
There's absolutely no risk that Dr. Spencer infected anyone in New York City, which is why we are going to closely monitor four people he came into contact with.

We do that because we like to monitor random people for no real reason.


#2) We are fully prepared for an outbreak which will never happen
There is almost zero risk of Ebola ever coming to New York City, which is exactly why we have been preparing for an Ebola outbreak in New York City.

Huh?


#3) Ebola is so hard to catch that we can't believe anyone managed to catch it
Ebola is hard to catch. It's so hard to catch that the world's best-trained doctors accidentally caught it without even knowing they did.

We don't understand how this happens, unless Ebola was easy to catch, which it isn't. Trust us. We are expert virologists when we're not running for office and making political promises we'll never keep.


#4) Please quarantine yourself even though you don't need to
Ebola can't possibly be spread by people who don't show any symptoms, but we would prefer that doctors who return from West Africa quarantine themselves for 21 days even when they show no symptoms.

But even when doctors break those self-quarantine rules, we will praise them and talk about how much they "tried" to limit their exposure to the public.


#5) Riding the subway is a form of self-quarantine
Dr. Spencer is so awesome! He "tried" to limit his exposure to the public, and he did that by riding the subway, sharing an UBER vehicle and hanging out at bowling alleys with his fingers touching his [bowling] balls.

Because, y'know, the very best way to quarantine yourself is to go out in public. How could anyone not know that? Shouldn't we give Dr. Spencer a humanitarian award of some kind for putting the safety of others ahead of his own social needs?


#6) Please deposit all biomedical viral waste in the nearest public trash can
Here in New York City, we like to use public trash cans to dispose of biomedical waste that's contaminated with Ebola virus. (That's what NYPD cops were just caught on camera doing.) [1]

Because we figure the rats in NYC already carrying at least 18 deadly viruses anyway, so why not give 'em some Ebola to see what mutations might happen? What could possibly go wrong?


#7) Stopping public awareness of Ebola is far more important than stopping Ebola
In the great city of New York, we have decided that the real risk is not from Ebola itself but from public awareness of Ebola.

Thus, instead of going out of our way to stop Ebola, we are focusing our efforts on stopping awareness of Ebola.

Because it's far better for the public to be ignorant than afraid. In fact, that's pretty much also how we run the New York City budget, too.


#8) Everything tests negative. Whew!
As part of our effort to calm public fears, we are going to tell you that everybody who once had Ebola now tests negative for Ebola. It's all cleared!

We tested the nurses from Dallas, and it came up negative. We tested the friends of Thomas Duncan, and they came up negative. Heck, we even tested the Ebola virus for Ebola and it came up negative too. Thank goodness Ebola is now Ebola free.


#9) Enhanced airport screening catching everything except Ebola
Just to calm public fears, we are going to stage some medical theater for you at the airports, acting like we are stopping people with Ebola from entering the country.

...People like Dr. Spencer, of course, who walked right through our "enhanced screening" procedures because, well, it's all just for show anyway.

If you're wondering why such medical theater is necessary, refer to point #7, above.


#10) Twenty isolation hospital beds and 100,000 body bags... hmmm...
We are all so totally prepared for an Ebola outbreak in New York City that we have a whopping 20 hospital beds ready with viral isolation capabilities.

And just in case that doesn't work, we've got 100,000 body bags ready to deploy.

It's sort of a "Plan B" approach, but we're pretty sure that won't ever be necessary as long as all Ebola carriers self-quarantine by riding the subway and visiting bowling alleys, which we fully endorse because we are government authorities who always know what we are talking about.

[1] http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ny-police-ca...

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047388_Ebola_outbreak_government_lies_New_York_City.html#ixzz3HTknLHdK

[Bob]

The thing with the troops.. It's smelling like something like how a martial law would be tested.. Test the waters to see how the public reacts.. Everything tells me this has been about bioweapons.. I have had that niggling reading the original research reports back in 1969.. When I saw the virulent data, the test reports, the deployment uses, frankly that was shocking. I am surprised it has taken this long for these 'tests' of public action.. The infection is real. I got off the phone with a rep with the doctors without borders and got a briefing about what's happening, some dialogs from a dozen or so countries heads of state. In the minimum, it is being under reported, the people are in fear of medicine, doctors, clinics, of course any government, and only are listening to their tribal leaders. Those in the cities look to the gang dialog, the thugs who command the local groups is who they have as their information providers. That's bush life.. Those who have Internet tend to get their jollies spreading mis and disinformation. Same ole same ole.. (If they can make a "statement" against the government, the Ebola issue is their rallying point - spread "anything" that can create a political edge, accurate reporting is not in their agenda when one can get one's own party member elected.. that is the political/gang issue - who can spin the best to get people on their side is rampant)

The military issue is a presence. A statement that the military can and will run things, and the politicians won't be able to stop that as they have tracked all bioweapons developments since the 50's same as other agencies have tracked and developed psychotropics as bioweapons. The fevers apparently were chosen because of the short die time and high infectious rate when the small amount of viral particle needed, only two nano sized particles are necessary and can gain access to the body. Measles as has been emphasized in other posts doesn't csrry the bioweapons fear factor as does a hemorrhagic fever, especially with uneducated populations where it could easily go wildfire size.

That the WHO, UN didn't handle this early on is significant..
That opens the doors to military intervention and that is where things are at, military intervention for two reasons in the minimum.. A test to see how pliable people will be to a military run martial law, and the military will demonstrate it can function where bureaucratic organizations like cdc and nih cannot..

That being the case, military intervention, not political would be where the tendency seems to fall.. How that action happens, if there is more "testing" should reveal where this is headed.

WhiteHouse apparently taking note that Governors are going to urge members of Congress to seriously consider impeachment proceedings against the President and appointed officials...


The White House on Sunday said that it is working on "new guidelines for health care workers" returning from Ebola-stricken states, according to a senior administration official.

The decision comes as governors in Illinois, New Jersey and New York and Florida announced over the weekend that they (themselves while exercising STATES RIGHTS) were instituting quarantines for aid workers returning from Ebola-stricken West Africa.

The Military (Pentagon) has stepped in apparently deciding to TAKE CHARGE ('if needed') see below (one week ago).. after being 'told' by Obama 'more' needs to be done.. What is interesting is that this MILITARY TEAM bypasses the so called "CDC" response team.. One begs to ask if CDC is so appropriate to solve this "issue" why is the Military needing a Specialty (medical) Swat Team to deal with this?

Questions, questions.. and who is in charge of this, ah right Spin Doctor, textmaster Eboz Czar ! (who apparently is already being bypassed by the White house telling the States to cool it exercising their rights)...


The (FIRST RESPONSE) team will be under orders to deploy within 72 hours at any time over the next month, the official said.

The Department of Health and Human Services requested the military team, and the Pentagon has given verbal approval, the official said.

The team will include five doctors, 20 nurses and five trainers, Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said in a statement.

The Pentagon has been working to determine what assistance it could offer the civilian health care sector following a White House meeting last week during which President Barack Obama said he wanted a more aggressive response, according to two Defense officials.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered chief of the Northern Command, Gen. Chuck Jacoby, “to prepare and train a 30-person expeditionary medical support team that could, if required, provide short-notice assistance to civilian medical professionals in the United States,” Kirby said.

Jacoby is already working with the military on the joint team, Kirby said, and once formed, it will head to Fort Sam Houston in Texas for up to seven days of training in infection control and personal protective equipment. The training, provided by the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, will begin “within the next week or so,” Kirby said.

The team will remain in “prepare-to-deploy” status for 30 days, he said.

It will be able to respond anywhere in the U.S. if “deemed prudent by our public health professionals,” he said.

To summarize: the Pentagon, as in the US army, will provide direct treatment to Ebola patients.

Can the Pentagon's ARMY staff now, this "swat team" over-ride and take the current patient out of Bellevue? What is happening here?

The move to impeach is serious, the move of the military to "step in and take charge" is serious.

So why would such a MILITARY response team being run by the Pentagon be needed within US borders, if there is "nothing to see here?" If States are feeling the Feds, and CDC and NIH are perfectly in control, that there is "nothing to see here" but yet, some of them are err'ing on the side of better safe than sorry?

[Bob]

Chuck Hagel Defense Secretary for the US.. has said the families of the Troops have agreed also, safety is better than potentially sorry.. the FAMILIES are saying we understand and the safety of the public no matter where they are, US soil or any international location the troops may arrive in for staging.. the PEOPLE should be safe.. waiting for 21 days is no big deal.. especially since governors have said those waiting under the 21 day rule would be compensated (being forced for instance to not go to work.. etc..)

Meanwhile the 'nurse' with the attitude has returned to Maine saying she will do what she pleases.. while officers are outside who have orders, if she tries to leave home quarantine, for the needed time she will be arrested. Maine is taking seriously the needed protocol to monitor for 21 days..

interesting.. those who understand biosafety lab procedures (Ebola is a Class A biopathogen requiring class 4 BSL facilities.. biosafety lab) and those exposed should perform the proper 21 day monitoring period.. The 'nurse' says she will do what she wants.. saying CDC says, 'this is how it should be' and that she is fine..

public surveyed is saying this person should remain in quarantine, if at home if she wants, and NOT have outside contact and NOT RISK the rest of the population.. this missy says she is gonna sue Maine now, after saying she is gonna sue New Jersey, and everyone who says STOP, you will quarantine for the 21 day period.. "public safety health laws over-ride one's personal desires to violate those health laws" - the health laws generally say if there is a risk, quarantine, prevent public exposure..

Update - the authorities tried to reach out and compromise with her, and didn't have her arrested when she left the house and went out for a bike ride with her male partner.. She was trailed by an officer in a vehicle. It is possible that the authorities now will take her to court preempting her threats to take them to court..

meanwhile.. back in the real world..

6 people in Indiana are being monitored for symptoms - (Source (http://fox59.com/2014/10/29/5-in-indiana-being-monitored-for-ebola-symptoms-state-health-officials-say/))

CDC has revised their "suggestions", it is up to the States to set what rules they want to enforce.. Public Safety is the way the health statues are written..

CDC SAYS: Monitoring includes twice-daily temperature and symptom checks by local health agencies. The state health department then records the results.

Two patients have completed the monitoring protocol while six others are currently under observation. They’re cooperating with the protocol, which lasts 21 days. State health officials aren’t releasing the names of the counties where travelers are being monitored in accordance with privacy laws.

The CDC’s new travel guidelines group people into four categories based on exposure to Ebola: high risk; some risk; low, but not zero risk; and no known risk. People in the high risk category, such as a healthcare worker who treated an Ebola patient, should be monitored by a health official and avoid commercial travel and large gatherings. Those with some risk should be monitored by a doctor and would be allowed to travel on a case-by-case basis.

Travelers with low, but not zero risk should watch for symptoms and those with no known risk don’t have to monitor their health.

[Bob]

Something is Happening in Liberia -

the unknown is, is this because the deaths of those who would freely travel have experienced the "burn out", or is there something else happening? like folks now unable to get to a clinic? More fear of reporting deaths, or sickness - unknowns in other words..

"It appears the trend is real in Liberia," Aylward said. "There may indeed be a slowing of the epidemic there."

The epidemic is far from over, however. The number of cases has jumped to 13,703 — an increase of about 3,000 reported cases in just a few days — with about 4,922 deaths, mostly in the hard-hit nations of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, Aylward said. The jump is most likely because of a backlog of earlier cases that hadn't been reported. Across West Africa, 521 health workers have been infected with Ebola and 272 have died, the WHO says.

Ebola cases continue to increase in Sierra Leone and Guinea. Mali reported its first case last week. "We're seeing this thing burning quite hot in parts of Sierra Leone right now," Aylward said.

Among patients whose outcome is known, "we know about 70% are dying," he said.

The number of new Ebola cases appears to be dropping in Liberia, the West African country hit hardest by the virus, a World Health Organization official said Wednesday.

The WHO stated new cases have been falling for more than a week.

Officials aren't sure if there were really fewer cases, however, or if people stopped going to the hospital, or if overwhelmed medical staff simply stopped reporting cases, said Bruce Aylward, assistant director-general in charge of operational response at WHO.

(Source (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/29/who-ebola-meeting/18107705/))

The question about the high health worker casualty rate - research was presented to CDC that ebola zaire (mutated) is sufficiently airborne via droplets to bypass the existing CDC recommended face masks.. the report said full HEPA filtering is needed for breathing safety..

[Bob]

California jumps on the monitoring program -

The number of states err'ing for safety (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/28/ebola-state-by-state-screening-quarantine-monitoring) is climbing despite naysayers trying to convince people to "ignore" common sense or safety.. what's wrong with erring on the side of safety? Naysayers apparently would rather people, ... what?

Anyone arriving in California from an Ebola-affected area and who has had personal contact with a person infected with the deadly virus will be quarantined for 21 days, according to an order issued Wednesday by the state's public health director.

The order provides a more nuanced set of guidelines to assess the risk associated with people returning from regions afflicted by an Ebola outbreak -- currently Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea -- than the "controversial blanket quarantines" in New Jersey, New York and Maine. (Illinois and Florida adopted similar measures, and even the CDC has now revised their "recommendations"..)

Confronting Ebola
Officials will have the ability to screen passengers arriving from Ebola-stricken regions in West Africa, or who have worked with infected patients, to determine if they’re at risk for the disease and if they should be quarantined for the virus' three-week incubation period.

Failure to comply with a quarantine order could result in misdemeanor criminal charges.

[Bob]

Georgia - similarly says monitoring for 21 days -

Georgia
On Monday, Georgia’s governor, Nathan Deal, updated the state’s monitoring policy for travellers returning from the most affected region of Africa, adding measures that go beyond what the CDC recommends. (Georgia is home to the fifth designated airport for west Africa arrivals: Hartsfield-Jackson International in Atlanta.)

Such passengers are placed in a quarantine station where officials take their temperatures and check for symptoms. If travellers show symptoms, they will be isolated immediately and transferred to a designated hospital for evaluation.

Asymptomatic travellers returning from the region are divided into three categories: high-risk, low-risk and medical personnel.

High-risk travellers, those known to have had direct exposure to the Ebola virus, will be subject to a 21-day quarantine at a designated isolation facility; low-risk travellers, those with no known exposure to the disease, must take their temperature and check for symptoms twice daily and report their status to a public health official once a day. Those who don’t comply with the daily reporting requirement will be tracked down and could be issued with a mandatory quarantine order.

Healthcare workers who have cared for Ebola patients will be monitored daily by public health officials either by video or in-home visits for a three-week period.

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Florida updates it's monitoring policy - NOBODY who has had contact will get away scott free without monitoring

On Saturday, Florida’s Governor Rick Scott signed a strict executive order mandating twice-daily 21-day health monitoring by state health officials for people returning from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, regardless of whether the travellers show symptoms or not.

Travellers from these countries will face a risk assessment upon their arrival in Florida, as well as active monitoring by state health officials.

Scott said he decided to move ahead with the order when the CDC failed to respond to a request for more information on the risk levels posed by travellers returning from the region.

[Bob]

Comparison - Liberia and Sierra Leone

Reports coming in from last week to the beginning of this week has noted a drop in cases reported, but at FreeTown in Sierra Leone the cases are increasing.

The proposed difference is that people in Liberia have started to take heed and not touch the dead, and proper burial procedures are being used, while in Sierra Leone it is just the opposite.

Doctors without Borders has said they have seen both dropping and "spiking", and suggest it is premature to say Liberia is starting to contain the outbreak.

MEANWHILE

CDC says UNCLE... OK we give up, it is spreadable by aerosol particles.. (Source (http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola/))

After being bombarded with numerous reports and studies, CDC admits what they have known about (pointed out their own studies, reports, and abstracts), it is spreadable by air.


Ebola is a lot easier to catch than health officials have admitted — and can be contracted by contact with a doorknob contaminated by a sneeze from an infected person an hour or more before, experts told The Post Tuesday.

“If you are sniffling and sneezing, you produce microorganisms that can get on stuff in a room. If people touch them, they could be” infected, said Dr. Meryl Nass, of the Institute for Public Accuracy in Washington, DC.

Nass pointed to a poster the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly released on its Web site saying the deadly virus can be spread through “droplets.”

“Droplet spread happens when germs traveling inside droplets that are coughed or sneezed from a sick person enter the eyes, nose or mouth of another person,” the poster states.
Nass slammed the contradiction.

“The CDC said it doesn’t spread at all by air, then Friday they came out with this poster,” she said. “They admit that these particles or droplets may land on objects such as doorknobs and that Ebola can be transmitted that way.”

Dr. Rossi Hassad, a professor of epidemiology at Mercy College, said droplets could remain active for up to a day.

“A shorter duration for dry surfaces like a table or doorknob, and longer durations in a moist, damp environment,” Hassad said.
The CDC did not respond to a request for comment.

Watching the talking heads back-peddle on this is both tragic sad and humorous.. Tragic in-so-much that the MSM didn't do the technical background for their copy, but relied on alleged authority, "CDC". Sad that people were allowed to just "trust" the authorities despite data being shown that the authorities were continuing to spread mis-information, or worse dis-information. Humorous, CDC reveals it "quietly", instead of announcing to the health care workers, you need better masks, and you CANNOT treat a CLASS-IV biosafety hazard with simple protection, and must use PROPER AIR FILTRATION, and deal with the environment (closed spaces) with the aerosol particles.

IT has been suspected and explained in numerous posts, illustrating the particles floating in the air (bodily fluids, moisture from breath, even without a sneeze or cough)... and those small particles make it past the normal "ebola face masks" being used that CDC has told the FIRST responders both in the US, (hospitals, ambulances) and Overseas, the CDC infection control protocols for treating Ebola Patients.. HEALTH CARE providers have been getting sick, infected when they have believed they have not directly TOUCHED an Ebola infected patient, and have wondered WHY??

The why is airborne transfer of aerosolized bodily fluids happens. CDC eats crow, and health care workers continue to get infected, families cross-infected...

now what?

UPDATE: I highly recommend taking a look here: http://www.naturalnews.com/047444_Ebola_quarantine_Kaci_Hickox_intelligence_officer.html#ixzz3HePhAZpJ

A report and commentary - Thursday, October 30, 2014
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

what he says fits.

[Bob]

Louisiana says to scientists planning to attend a health conference in New Orleans - stay away IF..


Louisiana state health officials asked anyone who has traveled to Liberia, Sierra Leone, or Guinea in the past 21 days, or has treated Ebola patients elsewhere, to stay away from the annual meeting of the American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene (ASTMH), which begins on Sunday in New Orleans.

ASTMH doesn't know exactly how many scientists will be affected, but there are several, says incoming president Christopher Plowe, including representatives from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

"They are quite disappointed," says Plowe, a malaria researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine in Baltimore.

ASTMH sent all meeting registrants an e-mail today containing a letter from Kathy Kliebert, secretary of Louisiana's Department of Health and Hospitals, and Kevin Davis, director of the Governor’s Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness, that outlines the state's position.

ASTMH referred registrants to the state's health department for further information.

"Given that conference participants with a travel and exposure history for [Ebola] are recommended not to participate in large group settings (such as this conference) or to utilize public transport, we see no utility in you traveling to New Orleans to simply be confined to your room," the letter says.

Louisiana's new policy goes further than guidelines from CDC. (Note CDC has upgraded their publicly stated 'understanding', Ebola aerosol will spread the disease)

"People who treated Ebola patients using protective gear in Sierra Leone, Guinea, or Liberia fall into the "some risk" category, for which "direct active monitoring" is recommended, including daily temperature measurements by health officials; in addition, local authorities "may consider additional restrictions," CDC says."

[Bob]

Meanwhile NY State says - we are not hindering doctors or health care workers willing to work in West Africa on persons with the Ebola infection -

and why is that? The State says that when they come back, (in voluntary home quarantine for 21 days if in direct contact with ebola patients), they will be financially compensated, if their employers don't do that..


[..] the state of New York and the city of New York will work to ensure that health care workers who selflessly travel to West Africa to treat Ebola patients would have their pay, health care and employment statuses continue seamlessly when they get back,” according to a statement announcing the initiative.

“The state would also provide necessary reimbursements – to health care workers and their employers – for any quarantines that are needed upon their return to help protect public health and safety in New York.”

"World Bank announced an additional $100 million is available to speed up deployment of foreign health workers to Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, the three most affected African countries."

In other words, it is no big deal, not financially or otherwise to err on the side of caution and safety. Medical workers are encouraged if they want, to go work in West Africa on Ebola Patients, take the necessary precautions for safety, and come back, just understand that direct contact means observation, monitoring, and self quarantine steps to be followed.. That financial hardship will not be an issue..

An issue is if the idea of CDC protection steps were/are AIRTIGHT there would not be health care workers being infected or dying. Even KEY hospital personnel have died of the infection who absolutely have taken the recommended CDC infection control steps.. That such has happened dully has had responsible officials concerned.. If infection understanding was/is airtight there would not be INFECTION of the health care workers, of the doctors.. AND with the acknowledgement from the CDC of aerosol infection ability, (that the CDC has not been forthcoming rapidly with posting that aerosol ability), the health departments, and Governors of States have recognized to err on the side of caution is a realistic measure.

NY State is saying financially there is no burden on Doctor or health worker for the self monitoring steps in voluntary quarantine. Quarantine steps are always recommended with animal husbandry when any member of the herd could have been exposed to something that could threaten the rest of the herd. It is only common sense to err on the side of caution.

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[Bob]

Howdy Buddha's Palm - we've discussed this several times in this thread, that the actual chemical treatments, called broad spectrum anti-virals have been known about and no doubt fully explored by the various agencies within the need-to-know military.. a set of about 6 different broad spectrum "pill type" of good-shelf-life antivirals were explored, as well as numerous actually thousands of other type accepted (and FDA registered) drugs with cross-labeling potential, - those drugs which worked on other things but actually effectively worked on stopping a whole range of viruses, Ebola included..

The push to go the multi-clonal antibody, was happening years ago by some of the same agencies who sponsored the bio-manufacturer.. the manufacturer insisting that "in any outbreak situation the company could IN TWO WEEKS develop sufficient doses of the drug.." Instead what is spun at this time is sorry no more zmapp can be made.. researching into that, there was an apparent licensing squabble, who gets the profits from making such a monoclonal antibody treatment..

But it gets deeper, with the concept of vaccinations, based on using an animal virus carrier, such as from a cow, and splicing in a segment from the Ebola protein and then using that combination as a vaccine (current vaccines are based on that concept)... With the assumption that a high mutation rate virus (as this EBOV-Z is) that it will remain stable enough for a vaccine to remain effective (prepping the immune system to go after anything resembling those proteins)...

No guarantees with any vaccine the long term issues, such as auto-immune response, or other side effects having Ebola protein inside of them.. Such as can that or is that protein a key-tag for other viruses to utilize? Will that ebola protein given by the vaccine infection, then replicate across one's progeny (passed along into one's children)?

None of those questions are answered by those making the vaccine for Ebola..

When the solution of using broad spectrum antivirals comes up (again reminding that those have been proved out as early as 2003, and highly refined even up through 2014), that gets pushed to the bottom of the stack.. A pill that one can take day 1, or potentially prophylactically, or taken day 3. For upwards of a year if needed, to allow for stopping infection, and evoking effective treatment.. Something about the head in the sand approach, pushing vaccines which have no guarantees about long term health safety to the folks injected... instead of a proper molecule to deal with the ebola molecules.. 120 people in a Swiss town are going to get one of these vaccines, to see what happens - some are slated to head to West Africa shortly..


We're gathering up folks in the D.C. area for a meeting on Nov 13th...direct inquiries to agency personnel responsible for managing their respective bio offices were a dead end (no pun intended...but unless alternative therapies are supported on a large scale, pun will apply in 2015). Problem is zMAPP and other currently funded/approved treatments are identified by the subject matter experts sporting Ph.D.s as sufficient to address the Ebola threat [..]

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Bob]

California joins the WILL MONITOR and self quarantine - using the direct contact, guidelines

Ebola guidelines
The California Department of Public Health on Wednesday released new quarantine guidelines.

The protocols include the following:
All people returning to the United States from Ebola-affected areas in West Africa will be screened for fever and other symptoms at the airport of arrival.

Travelers who are symptomatic will be further screened; those who do not have symptoms will be released to their home state for further monitoring.

In California, travelers will be interviewed by a local public health official and assigned a “high risk,” “some risk,” “low risk” or “no risk” status.

The risk level depends on how much contact travelers had with known Ebola patients.

Travelers in the “high” or “some” risk categories will be ordered into quarantine, specifics of which will be determined based on their particular level of risk. Some may stay home, some may be quarantined outside of their home, and some may be allowed movement outside of their home as long as they limit contact with others.

All travelers must monitor themselves daily for symptoms like fever. They will be required to contact their local public health department if they have a one-time temperature of 100.4 degrees or higher or a persistent temperature of 99.6 to 100.3 degrees for at least eight hours, or if they develop other Ebola symptoms such as severe headache, diarrhea, vomiting or unexplained bleeding.

[Bob]

REDWOOD CITY -- Dr. Colin Bucks sits in his Redwood City home every day -- completely alone. Dr. Bucks says he is perfectly OK with doing a voluntary quarantine in his home because he is err'ing on the side of caution, and choosing to help his community feel at ease.

He sent his wife and dog to a hotel.

The only time he goes out the front door is to retrieve food delivered into a cooler on his porch.

He won't even walk down the driveway to pick up the tossed fliers that are piling up.

Bucks, 43, a Stanford emergency physician, is one week into a 21-day quarantine since his return from a jungle camp in Liberia, where he served for a month on the front lines of the Ebola epidemic that killed about half his patients whose stories "hit you right in the gut."


"If I had to go outside the house, it would be completely safe. But for community reassurance, I'm staying completely inside my house and on the property," Bucks, a clinical assistant professor of surgery at the Stanford School of Medicine, said in a phone interview Thursday. "I wouldn't want anything to happen that would heighten community anxiety."

So far, he said, he's received nothing but support from his friends, colleagues and neighbors, people who appreciate his work that is helping to stem the deadly virus from spreading.

"Dr. Paul Auerbach, chief of emergency medicine at Stanford School of Medicine, said the day after Bucks returned he called his colleagues to be sure Stanford doctors understood how to identify and treat Ebola patients.

"His first question is never what can we do for him, but what he can do for others," said Auerbach, who earlier this week dropped off in Bucks' cooler a duck for dinner and chocolate for dessert.

"What Bucks hopes isn't being lost in the national quarantine debate is the important work being done in West Africa. Bucks is an emergency medicine physician with special training in humanitarian disaster response. Volunteering in Liberia with the International Medical Corps is just one more way to be ready for any kind of epidemic or natural disaster on home soil, he said.

"By the time some patients arrived at the Liberian medical camp, it was too late to save them. One of the saddest stories, he said, was that of a young mother who lost her entire family to the virus, including her infant who died in her arms. He watched her, the sole survivor of her family, walk out of the camp alone.

"I saw that," he said. "Understanding what it would mean for her to be reintegrated and to rebuild her life -- that's no small prospect."

excerpts from The Mercury News, San Jose, California

[sheme]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lChuNqjPmmg

A US doctor describes a hospital patient with all extreme Ebola symptoms -but says they are not permitted to use the Ebola word. Next day the patient has gone? So what is going on here? Is this innocent or deliberate covering up of the facts- "Ebola patients are being taken care of".

[Bob]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lChuNqjPmmg

A US doctor describes a hospital patient with all extreme Ebola symptoms -but says they are not permitted to use the Ebola word. Next day the patient has gone? So what is going on here? Is this innocent or deliberate covering up of the facts- "Ebola patients are being taken care of".

That is curious. I had wondered too, way too fast in some places..

[Kelly Anne]

Thanks for the updates Bob! :)

Oh...there are 9 people being monitored in Michigan...that's about all the local news says...down 1 from 10 because 1 person did not actually "stopped" in Michigan?

Also, none of the people being monitored had any known exposure...uh...ok...so, why monitor? (mixed messages anyone? LOL)

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2014/10/30/ebola-michigan-possible-exposure/18196917/

LOL...Oh my...is all I can say at this point...well...I guess nothing...it's all so mixed with....eh...

[Bob]

Canada now joins in says visa ban in effect for persons coming from West African countries, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia

OTTAWA Oct 31 (Reuters) - Canada will stop issuing visas to people from the three West African nations where Ebola is widespread, the government said on Friday.

Canada, which has not reported any cases of Ebola, is following in the footsteps of Australia, which on Tuesday became the first larger nation to issue such a ban.

Under the new regulations, which come into force immediately, Canada will not process visa applications from foreign nationals who have been in an Ebola-affected country within the previous three months.

U.S. President Barack Obama is so far resisting pressure to impose similar travel restrictions.

Canadian political opposing parties are using this as an attack football against the existing government.

[Bob]

Over in Mali - the young Mali Ebola victim had contact with 141 people, and the whereabouts of 57 are still unknown

The slower testing procedures are trying to determine if they were infected, although the authorities feel the two closest contacts are infected, but again still waiting for testing data..

This is the concern about an Ebola infection in Mali -

If other travelers on the transport where the girl traveled, or where she stopped along the way, and caught the disease, these other travelers' onward journeys risk spreading it in the capital Bamako or deeper into Mali, which borders Niger, Algeria, Senegal, Mauritania, Burkina Faso and Ivory Coast. None of those other countries currently have Ebola cases.

Contact tracing out of Mail is proving a bit difficult, but some data about her travels within Mali are known:

The first leg of the girl's journey took her from the border to Bamako by bus. Six of the 10 passengers remain unknown. She then went to and from the Bagadadji neighborhood in 5-seater taxis, with one person in each taxi ride still unknown. It was not clear from the presentation if those were the drivers.

She then sat by the window on a bus from Bamako to Kayes, and 34 contacts from that journey remain unaccounted for.

[Bob]

More domestic US Military Ebola teams planned

Department of Defence emergency response teams are designed to respond within 72 hours to any outbreak on U.S. soil.

The first team, consists of Army, Navy and Air Force personnel. They completed initial training on Tuesday 28th October and consisted of 20 critical care and inpatient nurses, five physicians and five infection control specialists who would also instruct civilian health care workers in infectious disease protocols.

Navy Cmdr. James Lawler, chief of the clinical research department at the Naval Medical Research Center's Bio Defense Research Directorate at Fort Detrick, Maryland is on this first team. Commander Lawler has active front line experience, and has worked in a treatment facility in Guinea earlier this year.

The Pentagon says it is anticipating a request from the Health and Human Services Department for more medical personnel who would respond on short notice to civilian medical facilities.

(assorted data sources)

[Bob]

A Department of Defense memo confirms DoD personnel – which could include civilians and/or troops – may have direct contact with “exposed remains” of Ebola victims in Africa.

While the DoD has issued new guidance on how military personnel and civilians will undergo pre-deployment and post-deployment training while in the Ebola-affected areas of West Africa, hidden deep in the 19-page memorandum in an attachment is an indication that the personnel may indeed have direct exposure to the affected population.

This small bit of data directly contradicts the statements made "IN PUBLIC" that US and civilian teams deployed by the US Military would have NO-CONTACT but are there to support, train local staff and build hospital facilities. LEVEL 3 TRAINING means they are being trained to deal with a direct contact of infection.

The statement is in a memorandum from Mr. Jessica L. Write, the US undersecretary of Defence for personnel and readiness.

Broken down into three levels, Level II training will be for personnel who “interact with the local populace,” and Level III training for personnel “assigned to supporting medical units or expected to handle exposed remains.”

If all that was expected was LEVEL 2 interaction, why then are they being trained to perform in LEVEL 3 - direct exposure to Ebola infections?

The memo does not indicate whether both DoD civilians and troops will be required to complete Levels II and III of training.

If military members must complete the training, it appears to contradict previous statements from DoD that the 4,000 deployed U.S. troops "will not be exposed to Ebola patients" but will undertake only a “supportive role.”

For such exposure, this attachment to the memo makes it clear that there is a more intense level of training for U.S. military and civilian personnel than the minimally required training for all deployed service members.

The following excerpts of Level II and Level III training requirements were outlined in the memo:

Level-2
Lev 2 training for personnel required to interact with the local populace
includes Lev 1 training and equipment plus the following"
a) Training on non-lethal methods (of defence) with those providing Force Protection
b) Training on when and how to use readily available protective suits

Level - 3

Lev 3 training for personal assigned to supporting medical units or expected to
handle exposed remains includes Lev1 training PLUS Lev 2 training and equipment
plus the following:

a) Training in clinical care, outbreak epidemiology, control measures and safety within
an Ebola treatment unit (ETU)
b) Cleaning and disinfection procedures training
c) Psychological support training for patients and staff
d) Training in full PPE (Personal Protection Equipment) in provision of care, patient
or body transport
e) Training in waste disposal
f) Response to a breach in PPE
g) training on indications and use of equipment
h) Training on proper use of air purifying respirators used during procedures
or suspicion of airborne droplet spread

There is more but the highlighted points in Level 3 training are about a very ACTIVE ROLE in handling infected people. Air breathing safety is conducted with a full respirator, acknowledging the facts behind airborne transmission risks. (Not just using the african ebola suit, with surgical masks which can pass small bodily fluid laden particles)

That means an exposure, and direct contact situation, requires a necessity to effectively monitor in isolation for 21 days on returning from deployment..

AND currently the US military is taking those steps for their deployed troops returning.

Is that happening with the understanding of the Level 3 activities that may be occurring but not being talked about to the PUBLIC or is such just err'ing on the side of safety? What do you think? The US Military has said though, there is a PROBLEM with the civilians as they cannot directly control what the civilians do on return from assignment with the military. That issue creates a potential confrontation as to WHO will potentially spread an infection, on US Shores or wherever the civilians return.


--source WND

[Bob]

Florida National Guard to setup two Ebola Emergency response units

There are 55 out of 200 Florida hospitals ready, equipment is being purchased, and Gov. Rick Scott has asked the National Guard in Florida to train two 16-person rapid response teams to respond to any case of Ebola in Florida.

There have been no reported cases of Ebola in the state, but Monday afternoon Scott met with Adjutant Gen. Emmett Titshaw at the St. Francis Barracks in St. Augustine to discuss preparations for any potential case here.

“This state will be prepared,” Scott said.

The response teams would activate after the issue of an alert order.

“The timeline that U.S. Northern Command has put on it is 72 to 96 hours,” Titshaw said, “So that’s what the standard is for this sort of thing.”

Scott said everything that’s being done in preparation is to offer the hospitals support.

--source assorted data sources, Jacksonville Florida news

[Bob]

DoD News, Defense Media Activity - What happens if Ebola hits in SOUTHCOM?

Marine Corps Gen. John F. Kelly said, “It's horrific. And there is no way we can keep Ebola [contained] in West Africa.”

If it comes to the Western Hemisphere, many countries have little ability to deal with an outbreak of the disease, the general said.

“So, much like West Africa, it will rage for a period of time,” Kelly said.

This is a particularly possible scenario if the disease gets to Haiti or Central America, he said. If the disease gets to countries like Guatemala, Honduras or El Salvador, it will cause a panic and people will flee the region, the general said.

“If it breaks out, it’s literally, ‘Katie bar the door,’ and there will be mass migration into the United States,” Kelly said. “They will run away from Ebola, or if they suspect they are infected, they will try to get to the United States for treatment.”

Also, transnational criminal networks smuggle people and those people can be carrying Ebola, the general said. Kelly spoke of visiting the border of Costa Rica and Nicaragua with U.S. embassy personnel. At that time, a group of men “were waiting in line to pass into Nicaragua and then on their way north,” he recalled.

“The embassy person walked over and asked who they were and they told him they were from Liberia and they had been on the road about a week,” Kelly continued. “They met up with the network in Trinidad and now they were on their way to the United States -- illegally, of course.”

Those men, he said, “could have made it to New York City and still be within the incubation period for Ebola.”

Kelly said his command is in close contact with U.S. Africa Command to see what works and what does not as it prepares for a possible outbreak in the area of operations.

-- source Department of Defence US - Marine Corps Gen. John F. Kelly dialogs

[sheme]

I don't consider myself the brightest spanner in the tool box- but there is a pattern of incompetence here that is overwhelmingly obviously deliberate.

We know about the depopulation agenda - We must consider the ball rolling now- get your supplies in and your family safe- boil your water -take vit C- make colloidal silver - Mythi implies this insidious assault comes from several directions.

The USA government is compromised by it's ineffective Bio security, we all know why -agenda 21 - so wake up> this is how it starts-

The more trivia posts that pass through this web site- the more we should be on our guard.

[Bob]

in 2012 - a key year - see US Department of Defence page - http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2012/1012_biosurveillance/

Biological, chemical, and nuclear terrorist attacks, extreme weather events, and naturally-occurring emerging infectious diseases all pose national security threats unbounded by state, country, and regional borders.

The Department of Defence uses global biosurveillance networks to identify and track such threats and to help defend the United States.

WHO is doing the work in DoD ?

The threat is still emerging and evolving, he said, and DTRA and SCC-WMD are expanding their areas of cooperation in order to stay one step ahead.

“We work closely with the Centers for Disease Control and we often pursue global health security projects together internationally,” Myers said.

While the CDC handles public health issues, they (CDC) are not equipped to address the security threat posed by deadly pathogens, he said.

DTRA and SCC-WMD are equipped to handle such threats, Myers noted, so earlier this year, the three agencies signed a memorandum of understanding and a strategy for joint work.

"Myers said, “As we look to [fiscal year 2015], I am confident that we are prepared to address future WMD threats around the world.”

Are infections diseases false flags, not really considering everything being done to deal with global infections, diseases, bioweapons and terrorist activity:


The new division is part of a multiagency effort to implement the nation’s first U.S. National Strategy for Biosurveillance, released in 2012 by the White House to make sure federal agencies can quickly detect and respond to global health and security hazards.

It’s also part of a push to increase DOD diagnostics funding through the department’s biodefense program, Andrew C. Weber, assistant secretary of defense for nuclear, chemical and biological defense programs, told American Forces Press Service in an interview last year.

Some of the work is done by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency’s (DTRA) Joint Science and Technology Office of the Chemical and Biological Defense Program, as well as by the Joint Program Executive Office for Chemical and Biological Defense.

In October 2009, Weber himself ushered the Chemical and Biological Defense Program into the biosurveillance business by signing a memorandum to the military department secretaries announcing that emerging infectious diseases would become part of the chemical and biological defense mission.

Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center - collects serum specimens from those infected so as to identify rapidly what infection is present during any outbreak.

In 2012 Dr. Rohit Chitale became director of the fledgling Division of Integrated Biosurveillance, which shares a building with the DOD Serum Repository, the world’s largest, with more than 55 million serial serum specimens dating back to the mid-1980s. EVERYONE who survived and EVERYONE who DIED that they can get a specimen from.

(NOTE on this - having serum specimens allows for tracking MUTATIONS.. AND provides a database of BIOWEAPONS, and provides molecules that can be CLONED and amplified for bioweapons uses.. such as "studying what the ENEMY may possibly produce" - which is how the bioweapons treaties are able to be circumvented around the world)

Also part of AFHSC is the Global Emerging Infections Surveillance and Response System, called GEIS, whose 33 partners include military laboratories, academic institutions and nongovernmental organizations around the world that support service members and population-based surveillance and capacity building in 62 countries.


Key areas in which AFHSC and the new division can provide value for DOD biosurveillance is in disease detection, preventive medicine guidance and coordination with the interagency, he added. “We’re trusted across the DOD and also domestic and international medical and public health communities – a real value add in this new paradigm, this new normal,” Chitale said.

“When it comes to something like disease detection,” he added, “you need the ability, which we have, to pick up the phone and call someone in Uganda who you trust -- a medical person, U.S. government staff working in the host nation, even someone in the Ministry of Health or WHO staff -- and ask them what’s going on. They can talk to their people in the country, and you get high-quality information back within minutes to hours.

“You get real, hard information,” he continued, “and those are your boots on the ground -- those are your listening posts across the globe.”

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Bob]

Hi Buddha's Palm - Maybe take a look here - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=871304&viewfull=1#post871304

and here - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=871653&viewfull=1#post871653

much better than the zmapp logic or the viral RNAi - in this thread we investigated many government supported programs foreign and domestic

Useful summary Post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69697-Haemorrhagic-fever-Ebola-outbreaks-have-been-reported-accident-natural-or-bio-weapon&p=886576&viewfull=1#post886576 - numerous post links in the post.

[Redstar Kachina]

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[birddog]

I thought this might be of interest......."NIH: ‘Vaccinate the Whole Country’ with Experimental Ebola Vaccine
http://www.healthfreedoms.org/nih-vaccinate-the-whole-country-with-experimental-ebola-vaccine/



Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute for
Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of
Health, wants to vaccinate the whole country with an experimental
Ebola vaccine in light of recently Ebola cases in the U.S. He recently told The Canadian Press in an interview:
“As the epidemic gets more and more formidable and in some cases out of control it is quite conceivable, if not likely, that we may need to deploy the vaccine to the entire country to be able to shut the epidemic down. That is clearly a possibility.”
How convenient for the corrupt GlaxoSmithKline who is working as fast as they can to create an experimental, fast-tracked Ebola vaccine. The company was just slapped with a record $489 million fine in China last month after allegations surfaced in the United Arab Emirates of ‘improper payments’ and bribery in several Middle Eastern countries.
They have also been found guilty of reportedly dumping 45 liters of polio virus in a Belgium river, and they are the subject of numerous lawsuits brought about by whistleblowers for ‘bad medicine.’ Cheryl Eckard, for example, a former employee for the pharmaceutical giant, has exposed GlaxoSmithKline’s fraudulent practices of delivering contaminated drugs – some even full of harmful bacteria – to the public.
Yet – this is the company that the U.S. government wants us to trust for an Ebola vaccine?
Furthermore, Jon Rappaport has revealed that the standard test for diagnosing Ebola (PCR) is ‘completely misleading and useless.’
He continues:
“. . . when the authorities report there are 6000 cases of Ebola and 3000 deaths, or when they report that two patients in the US have Ebola, they’re relying on a diagnostic test that can’t confirm any of these assertions is true. This is verified in spades by a Dept. of Defense manual.”
The manual he refers to is “Ebola Zaire (EZ1) rRT-PCR (TaqMan®) Assay on ABI 7500 Fast Dx, LightCycler, & JBAIDS: INSTRUCTION BOOKLET,” published by “Joint Project Manager Medical Countermeasures Systems,” dated 14 August 2014.
He quotes from the manual:
“…the EZ1 assay [the PCR test] should not be performed unless the individual has been exposed to or is at risk for exposure to Ebola Zaire virus or has signs and symptoms of infection with Ebola Zaire virus (detected in the West Africa outbreak in 2014) that meet clinical and epidemiologic criteria for testing suspect specimens.”
There are numerous ‘Ebola’ strains, however, and the Zaire test wouldn’t come up positive anyhow if someone had a different virus.
Regardless of this inconclusive test for Ebola Tom Frieden, the head of the CDC, gave a press conference last week concerning “the Dallas Ebola patient,” in which he assured all of us that the patient had Ebola, because the ‘very accurate’ PCR test had been run.
Meanwhile, Fauci is dropping nationalized vaccination comments like its no big deal – sure, he meant it for Africa, but is the plan to force vaccinations of an untested, live-virus vaccine on the entire U.S. population next?
Interestingly, the people of West Africa have a strong disbelief in the reality of this Ebola crisis. They think that these Ebola outbreaks were caused by the United States Department of Defense, which was in the Ebola hot zones of West Africa performing bio-warfare research on Ebola and other viruses. They think that Ebola is so fake, in fact, that the people are now literally drenched in an ‘Ebola is Real’ campaign, where they can’t even take a phone call without being told that Ebola is real.
Will a vaccine soon come to us in the United States for a fake pandemic? Either way, will we all be forced to take it? Let us know what you think of this controversial issue."

Source(s):
naturalsociety.com