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Dawn
23rd March 2014, 01:13
There have been threads on Avalon about Bob Beck's protocol. What is new is that there is now a very tiny portable device which can be worn like a large watch on your arm. This allows ease of treatment because you can go to town or move around your home and garden during the 2 hours of recommended treatment.

Prior to this little invention I used to need to sit at my desk for a couple of hours... which was very limiting and meant that I missed a lot of treatment days.

The new device is powered by a tiny watch battery which only needs to be changed every 4-6 weeks or so. Here's the link for it:
https://www.nulife.de/lshop,showdetail,1128,e,1395536019-1816,001,w-0108,13,Tshowrub--001,0.htm

It looks like this:https://www.nulife.de/cosmoshop/pix/a/n/1271153629-1464.jpg

If you are new to this information then I'll just say that it is very important, especially in a world filled with governments who appear to be trying to reduce the size of the population through disease exposures (among other things). It takes about 6 weeks of using this little device 2 hours daily to eliminate just about any infections you might have including knarly ones like cancer, aids, lyme disease, etc. Herpes takes longer.... but it is the exception.

Here's a talk by Dr. Bob Beck .... and it is just one among many available on YouTube these days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrmP5-uyql4

It is interesting to note that after using the device for 6 weeks your blood will become immortal. This seems like an odd statement, but it is actually true. Normally, when you have a blood test done, your blood will dry out and die within 24- 48 hours of being placed on a microscope slide. However, with continued use of a Beck device, any blood drawn from you will live months or more when placed on a microscope slide. It might be nice to have healthy blood... don't you think?

sheme
23rd March 2014, 12:44
It seems he is in both our thoughts today- thanks for this link.

gripreaper
23rd March 2014, 16:38
This seems similar to Hilda Clark's parasite zapper. Certain frequencies harbor certain pathogens, and stabilizing all of the frequencies to get to pure blood seems like a stretch. Do you know what frequency this device operates?

I'll listen to the video later to see if I can answer my own question.

Camilo
23rd March 2014, 16:45
Thanks Dawn, very appropriate info for this time of uncertainty.

Dawn
23rd March 2014, 18:16
gripreaper: This seems similar to Hilda Clark's parasite zapper. Certain frequencies harbor certain pathogens, and stabilizing all of the frequencies to get to pure blood seems like a stretch. Do you know what frequency this device operates?

I'll listen to the video later to see if I can answer my own question.

This is very different from Hulda Clarke's device. It actually uses DC current which reversed 4x/second to electrify the blood. This is a totally different methodology than Hulda Clarke's device.

And I believe you are correct... the Clarke zapper does not work on all pathogens. However the Beck device does.

If you watch the video on this link you will understand what is happening with the Beck device. It is actually inspired by a medical patent application for a surgically installed system. Bob Beck was able to figure out how to get the same results without surgery.

Hervé
23rd March 2014, 18:40
The DIY stuff and schematics:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/117423240/How-to-Construct-a-Bob-Beck-Blood-ELectrifier-Circuit-on-a-Breadoard

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2009/02/19/build_a_low_cost_simple_magnetic_pulser.htm

Beck's Protocol (PDF):

http://www.sharinghealth.com/pdfs/beckprotocolhandbook.pdf

Dawn
23rd March 2014, 19:45
The DIY stuff and schematics:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/117423240/...on-a-Breadoard

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chri...tic_pulser.htm

Beck's Protocol (PDF):

http://www.sharinghealth.com/pdfs/be...olhandbook.pdf

Thanks Amzer Zo, one of the main reasons that Beck's work is a gift to us all is that it can be done with almost no cash outlay. I just wanted people to know that there is a new tiny portable unit. Since getting this little unit, I haven't missed a day of treating myself... it is convenient to walk around and enjoy my day while electrifying my blood now. Unfortunately it costs more than a do-it-yourself stationary unit. Still, compared to medical insurance or medical treatments it is quite inexpensive.

conk
24th March 2014, 17:20
Beware of other providers. I found a US/Canada site where they ask $700 for the unit! My checkout price from the German store was around $350 US.

Dawn
24th March 2014, 17:24
Conk: Beware of other providers. I found a US/Canada site where they ask $700 for the unit! My checkout price from the German store was around $300 us.

Yes, that is what I paid. That is not inexpensive... still compared to medical services (which don't work well anyway) it is very inexpensive.

Dawn
27th March 2014, 03:46
I'm just completed 60 days of using the Beck device for blood cleaning. I haven't been as solid in my use of the MagPulser, which is also advised. I have a very strong healthy feeling and am noting some delightful changes. The main reason I am reporting this is that I'd like to bump this thread again so that a few more people will view it and realize this wonderful opportunity.... finally a very tiny and convenient portable Beck blood electrifier.

Carmen
27th March 2014, 08:26
Sounds very like a rife machine or Energy wellness as the one I had, was called. It's quite expensive but it's cheaper now it's made in New Zealand, about $2000NZ. It replaces doctor visits and I guess operations. My ex husband uses it every day and has avoided the reoccurrance of cancer. I recently sold mine cheap to a lady with re-occurring breast cancer. She emailed me the other day to say her oncologist is amazed at her progress now. Sadly, she does not mention that she is using the machine daily.

13th Warrior
27th March 2014, 13:53
How are you detoxing after treatments?


Are you using the ozone foot bath?

Hughe
27th March 2014, 14:23
Build Your Own Beck Blood Electrification and Ionic Colloidal Silver Device
IMPROVED SCHEMATIC by Bob Beck

http://www.sharinghealth.com/pdfs/buildyourown.pdf

conk
27th March 2014, 17:23
Dawn, did you make your MagPulser? I haven't touched a soldering iron or meddled in this kind of tech since the late 70s, so not sure I could build one.

No, this is not like a Rife machine. While it is in the realm of energy medicine, it's not Rife-like.

Detoxing can be done by drinking the ozone water. Or by drinking Zeolite clay powder, or by intensely sweating (far infrared is great) after taking a dose of niacin.

Dawn
28th March 2014, 03:33
13th Warrior: How are you detoxing after treatments?


Conc: Dawn, did you make your MagPulser? I haven't touched a soldering iron or meddled in this kind of tech since the late 70s, so not sure I could build one.

No, this is not like a Rife machine. While it is in the realm of energy medicine, it's not Rife-like.

Detoxing can be done by drinking the ozone water.

When I first began my daily Beck blood cleaning session I needed Ozonated water after each treatment or I got pretty uncomfortable die off symptoms. It is easy to make... just put a bubbler on the end of an ozonator (which you can purchase for under $200) for 30 minutes.... then drink. Ozonated water works really well. At day 60 I don't bother doing this anymore because I just don't have any toxic reactions that I am aware of.

About the Mag Pulser. At one point my partner made a full body one with a coil of copper tubing that could be pulled up over the body like a large coil. He had amazing and miraculous results on his friends .... but eventually he just left off using it and threw it away. I found mine as a used device on eBay. It is amazing what you can find there. Try typing in Beck Device, or Magnetic Pulser and many will pop up. From time to time you can find really great used devices in nearly brand new condition for a 'song'.

Thanks for helping keep this thread alive for a while so Avalonians can find it easily. I'd like to see everyone here having access to this info.

ThePythonicCow
28th March 2014, 07:33
The Canadian company Sota Instruments (sota.com), which apparently had products endorsed by Bob Beck when he was alive (he died in 2002 (http://rense.com/general26/cbek.htm) at age 77), has a Beck blood electrification device: Silver Pulser Bio Stimulator Pulse SP6. It will cost about $280 to $300 (US Dollars), depending on whether you buy it from Amazon (http://amzn.com/B0027UGKAK) (and possibly pay sales tax) or buy it from the sota.com site directly (http://www.sota.com/silver-pulser.html) (and pay shipping.)

I've been listening to Youtube videos on this for the last few hours :). Bob Beck does appeal to my techno-geek mind; he was sharp and accurate in his explanations, so far as I could tell. As I have been making more sense of the electrical nature of the body (and the world around us), this sort of technology is starting to make more sense to me.

ThePythonicCow
28th March 2014, 07:55
Here's a good summary of Bob Beck's life and work: About Bob Beck: The Inventor of the Beck Protocol (SharingHealth.com) (http://www.sharinghealth.com/bob-beck.html).

ThePythonicCow
28th March 2014, 09:44
An amazing radio show with Bob Beck from October of 1984: W2zgKwjO-zg

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28th March 2014, 16:37
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conk
28th March 2014, 17:49
Some doctors using and promoting Dr. Beck's blood electrification device have said that the magpulsing is not always necessary. But you must still promote good lymph drainage. This can be easily done by jumping on a rebounder and by flexing/stretching. I'm not convinced this will break loose the hidden pathogens as the magnetic pulse seemingly does. Still much to read and learn.

I received an internation package the day after ordering my mini-zapper from Germany. I thought, wow, that is some really fast shipping. Sigh, it was only my order of Vegemite from the UK. Can't wait to get the device and start killing bad bugs. Will advise for those still contemplating. Having spent decades and thousand$ trying to heal, if it works for me, IT WORKS!

Dawn
28th March 2014, 20:26
Paul: The Canadian company Sota Instruments, which apparently had products endorsed by Bob Beck when he was alive (he died in 2002 at age 77), has a Beck blood electrification device: Silver Pulser Bio Stimulator Pulse SP6. It will cost about $280 to $300 (US Dollars), depending on whether you buy it from Amazon (and possibly pay sales tax) or buy it from the sota.com site directly (and pay shipping.)


Yes, Sota does make very nicely packaged Beck devices for those who don't want to build their own. The new Mini Zapp is about 1/20th the size however. The Sota blood cleaner is waaaay to BIG to wear on your wrist. That is the type I was using in the past. It works well, but you must sit somewhere attached to it by a wire.

Small and Portable
The new Mini Zap does the same thing, but can be worn like a watch. Very small and easy to camouflage if you are in public. In the beginning I wore a long sleeved shirt when in public with my Mini Zap, however I have become more relaxed and just wear it exposed now. Almost no one ever asks about it for it is pretty small and unobtrusive.

Price
Lots more freedom is possible, and the cost is just about equal to the Sota device if you purchase it from the link in my first post on this thread.

Battery Life
As a personal note here... I have used my Mini Zap for 75 hours now on the first battery (which it came with) and it still has plenty of power. Amazing that such a tiny thing can operate for so long on just one little watch battery.

Dawn
28th March 2014, 21:24
You might enjoy these photos of my arm with the MiniZap hooked up.
I don't think the company photos really give an idea of how wonderfully small and portable this is.

http://photoman.bizland.com/stuff/wrist1.jpg



http://photoman.bizland.com/stuff/wrist2.jpg

ThePythonicCow
28th March 2014, 22:42
You might enjoy these photos of my arm with the MiniZap hooked up.
I don't think the company photos really give an idea of how wonderfully small and portable this is.
Aha - that is a difference in size - thanks!

meat suit
29th March 2014, 13:39
hi Dawn or anybody using this,
I have just organized one of these for a cancer ridden relative.
now there seems to be a warning not to use this when taking medicine of all sorts. thats a bit of a problem since the patient is on chemo and loads of parallel alternative stuff.

is critical to stop every other thing before using the zapper?

thanks
meat

Pam
29th March 2014, 13:55
I am curious, if this device destroys all pathogens it seems it would also have to destroy all beneficial bacteria as well. Is this true?

Dawn
30th March 2014, 00:15
meat suit: hi Dawn or anybody using this,
I have just organized one of these for a cancer ridden relative.
now there seems to be a warning not to use this when taking medicine of all sorts. thats a bit of a problem since the patient is on chemo and loads of parallel alternative stuff.

is critical to stop every other thing before using the zapper?


The idea here is that your cells have more porosity for a time during the treatment, due to the electric pulse which opens the cell walls. Bob Beck mentioned this. However on Beck forums there have been detailed discussions on this topic, and the consensus was that no one had an issue with porosity effecting over-absorption. If someone would like to 'push the envelope' and take vitamins or medicine they should do it directly AFTER a Beck treatment. This will allow the body 24 hours to clean up the ingested substance, before the next treatment. Well, that is all I know on the subject. If it were me I would not do this along with chemotherapy which is poisonous.


Peter Pan: I am curious, if this device destroys all pathogens it seems it would also have to destroy all beneficial bacteria as well. Is this true?

Great (!!!) Question!

ANSWER: No...the Beck device does not harm the 'friends' that live in our gut. This is because they live in the digestive system and not the blood stream. Any organism using the blood as a transport system to travel through the body and implant itself in the body tissues will be killed however. To the best of my knowledge our beneficial friends have no business living in our blood stream. If/when bacteria gets from the gut into the bloodstream this is called leaky gut. Leaky gut is not good because it triggers an immune system reaction and overall inflammation.

conk
2nd April 2014, 19:37
I am curious, if this device destroys all pathogens it seems it would also have to destroy all beneficial bacteria as well. Is this true?Good bacteria have a different polarity than bad bugs, so no, good bugs are safe. Also, Dawn makes a critical point about the location of the bacteria and how they are affected.

Dawn
2nd April 2014, 20:17
8 Weeks of Treatment Update: Perhaps you will all enjoy hearing about a radionics session I just had. It has been 8 weeks since I began daily blood electrification treatments on myself.

No Infections?! To the extreme shock of the practitioner my body showed that it had NO worms, fungus, bacteria, or viruses. I did have resonance for some prions in my brain and eyes. Since the blood/brain barrier prevents blood flow into the brain my blood electrifier treatments have not worked there. (I've been lax in using the magnetic pulser as Beck recommends... and it looks like I'd better get cracking with using this additional part of the Beck protocol).

This practitioner has treated 1000s of clients and has NEVER seen this before. His comment was that my body was healthier than that of most 20 year olds. Now, this is not entirely true, but from the standpoint of infections he is correct.

What is Radionics? For those coming to this post without knowledge of radionics, let me just give a quickie in education. Radionics is the field of healing disease and illness through frequencies. Each and every organism has a frequency that can be detected. If, for example, the frequency of cancer shows up in an individual this is an early warning sign that their body is dealing with an invasion of bacteria which cause this, whether or not a tumor is present. In order to 'heal' a disease an opposing frequency is used which 'shatters' and 'disrupts' the life force field of the pathogens and instantly kills them. OK... well you can look up more info about this if you'd like to by typing in 'radionics' to a search engine such as Google.

More to Come? Since my MiniZap is so easy to use I'm going to continue with daily treatments. I'll see if I notice the other things Beck told us about. These would include 'youthening' things like weight loss, the return of thick dark hair, and so on. This is fun

SunSea
3rd April 2014, 04:01
Hi Dawn, your enthusiasm is contagious! I am totally new to Becks work. Recently some friends have been talking of the great results using a Rife machine so all of a sudden I'm looking at these new devises. The Rife is very expensive... I'm just now scratching the surface with the "Beck protocol". Sounds like a combo of the zapper, colloidal silver and oxygenated(?) water. So, this lovely little devise you picture is also rather spendy for me, about $450 US. Do you have any other recommendations? You mentioned a less convenient model.. maybe you could check this devise out for me. Its listed on EBay and is hand constructed (which seems ify to me.. The seller has great reviews. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bob-Beck-electrifier-zapper-CS-generator-in-one-/291116309320?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c7e25b48

Anyway, I am very excited about learning more now. Thanks Dawn

ps. I'm going back and reading this thread again..wow! In my excitement I've really overlooked a lot that's already here. I see the estimated cost for this mini zapper is $350 but the converter I used said $450 hmm. Also I see its ozone water, $200 to by a devise for this , IS way out of my budget. I'll need to watch the videos that have been posted here.

enfoldedblue
3rd April 2014, 05:16
Hi I just thought I should add my experience for the sake of balance. Unfortunately after months of using Becks zapper for an hour everyday religiously...I found no change. I wish I could report great results...and I really hoped I would, but in all honesty I have to say I felt no different to before I used it. :( I am in no way saying it doesn't t work at all...but unfortunately no amazing results for me. I also found no positive results with MMS and I know many people swear by it...(actually following the protocol recommended...brought me to a state of feeling near poisoned. My energy worker/healer was horrified when she saw me after 2 weeks on the MMS)

The key things that I would say have been positive in my healing process are: diatomaceous earth, oregano oil, garlic, Qi gong and fermented foods.

But healing is such a complex personal thing

ThePythonicCow
3rd April 2014, 06:08
I also found no positive results with MMS and I know many people swear by it...(actually following the protocol recommended...brought me to a state of feeling near poisoned. My energy worker/healer was horrified when she saw me after 2 weeks on the MMS)
My first thought, when I read that, is that the work of Chris Shade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDP-bJyEHyA) on the human detoxification system (http://www.quicksilverscientific.com/clinical/the-human-detoxification-system.html) might be relevant. Protocols that remove toxins will make one feeling sicker, not better, if the toxins don't have a clear exit path.

(Of course, I realize that the odds that my first thought is the slightest bit relevant to your particular situation are miniscule at best <grin>.)

Limor Wolf
3rd April 2014, 07:55
Thanks for the great information, Dawn. It might deserve it's own thread, but I want to bring to people's attention to Aurum Metallicum (http://www.webhomeopath.com/homeopathy/homeopathic-remedies/homeopathy-remedy-Aurum_metallicum.html) - a diluted solution of gold (Homeopathy) Gold has it's many qualities, it's worth doing a research on that, but it also helps to shield against radiation of Scalar waves. It is differing from Ormus since it's not using the monoatomic element of the chemical but it's based on frequency pattern and works on the vibration and frequencies of the body (very much like the technology itself) . As opposed to buying gold, it is within people's means. I found it to be cheap and effective. Please don't fly with it or order it via air freight, altitude can destroy it's effectivness, but it is easy enough to obtain homeopathic gold in the U.S and Europe.

Use it twice a day, morning and evening, 6 drops of Aurum Metallicum, potency recomended- D12, D30 AND d200 OR c100 combined (better start with each seperately) I am having some very positive results after only two weeks and am gaining a renewal general elevated feeling of health.

======= EDIT =============================

I would like to correct my previous recommendation on Aurum Metalicum. It is quite possible that the gold essence may be used as a conductor in the body and not as a shield as initially believed, This is also supported by the findings of Carolyn Helmet and Dan Duval in their work and research on entities and their attachment to the body

Since Rife Machine is really quite expensive, a well enough substitute will be running these frequencies from youtube on your MP3 -
http://www.youtube.com/user/newtimer5/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1

The 528Hz frequency also helps to uplifts the vibes and get us closer to the higher frequency we want our body, our soul and our spirit to resonate with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc4_xaWsQC4

This is a great thread and great comments on the Beck Zapper, thank you ~

enfoldedblue
3rd April 2014, 08:23
I also found no positive results with MMS and I know many people swear by it...(actually following the protocol recommended...brought me to a state of feeling near poisoned. My energy worker/healer was horrified when she saw me after 2 weeks on the MMS)
My first thought, when I read that, is that the work of Chris Shade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDP-bJyEHyA) on the human detoxification system (http://www.quicksilverscientific.com/clinical/the-human-detoxification-system.html) might be relevant. Protocols that remove toxins will make one feeling sicker, not better, if the toxins don't have a clear exit path.

(Of course, I realize that the odds that my first thought is the slightest bit relevant to your particular situation are miniscule at best <grin>.)

Thanks Paul, but in this case I had gone through an intense herx reaction long before with all the other anti-pathogen and detox protocols I have been following. It just got to be that after two weeks of following the 3drops 8x a day my energy turned gray. It just did not jive with my system at all.

Sorry dawn don't mean to derail your tread

Dawn
4th April 2014, 00:17
enfoldedblue: Hi I just thought I should add my experience for the sake of balance. Unfortunately after months of using Becks zapper for an hour everyday religiously...I found no change. I wish I could report great results...and I really hoped I would, but in all honesty I have to say I felt no different to before I used it. I am in no way saying it doesn't t work at all...but unfortunately no amazing results for me.

I don’t know exactly what your issue is, but you are not doing the Beck protocol. Beck’s protocol dictates 4 steps:

1. TWO (not ONE) hours daily of the blood electrifier

2. Swishing about a tablespoon of collodial silver in your mouth at the beginning of the blood electrification (note: the presence of silver in the blood stream enables the red blood cells to become active stem cells which can replace and repair any damaged tissue in the body)

3. Drinking ozonated (not oxygenated) water after the 2 hour blood electrification in order to cleanse the blood and eliminate any toxins created from die off

4. Using a Magnetic Pulser at joints, lymph node sites, over body organs, and on head to reach areas in which deep infection is lodged and/or where there is limited blood flow for 20 minutes daily.

If you miss any one of these 4 steps you are not doing the Beck protocol. Also, if you are using a Hulda Clarke style zapper... then you should know that scientific examination has shown that these do not work. Beck says it takes 6 weeks of continual treatments to see an improvement. I'm not sure what is going on with you, there are so many things other than pathogens which can affect our health! But if your unwellness is caused by pathogens then this is a very effective protocol.



sunsea: ps. I'm going back and reading this thread again..wow! In my excitement I've really overlooked a lot that's already here. I see the estimated cost for this mini zapper is $350 but the converter I used said $450 hmm. Also I see its ozone water, $200 to by a devise for this , IS way out of my budget. I'll need to watch the videos that have been posted here.

You’re right! Due to the US dollar’s falling value compared to the Euro, the cost is $400 US dollars on the site I mentioned when I checked today. The cost in Euros is $399. Shipping is free of charge.

There is a lightly used one available on eBay for $300. Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bob-Beck-mini-zap-One-Of-A-Kind-Made-In-Germany-Take-Back-Your-Health-/151265589482?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233821b8ea

If you don't care about your blood electrifier being portable then it looks like some careful eBay shopping will yield one for $99 - $199. But, don't forget, it isn't hard to make your own non-portable Beck blood electrifier (and the schematics are posted in this thread) for less than $20

13th Warrior
4th April 2014, 01:13
Dawn,

Ozonated water is basically highly oxygenated water. Ozone (tri-atomic oxygen) quickly reverts to oxygen when it's consumed. First of all the bacterial load in your mouth will impact 03 concentration as will contact with mucus linings and finally the temperature rise will further convert the 03 to 02.

enfoldedblue
4th April 2014, 01:49
enfoldedblue: Hi I just thought I should add my experience for the sake of balance. Unfortunately after months of using Becks zapper for an hour everyday religiously...I found no change. I wish I could report great results...and I really hoped I would, but in all honesty I have to say I felt no different to before I used it. I am in no way saying it doesn't t work at all...but unfortunately no amazing results for me.

I don’t know exactly what your issue is, but you are not doing the Beck protocol. Beck’s protocol dictates 4 steps:

1. TWO (not ONE) hours daily of the blood electrifier

2. Swishing about a tablespoon of collodial silver in your mouth at the beginning of the blood electrification (note: the presence of silver in the blood stream enables the red blood cells to become active stem cells which can replace and repair any damaged tissue in the body)

3. Drinking ozonated (not oxygenated) water after the 2 hour blood electrification in order to cleanse the blood and eliminate any toxins created from die off

4. Using a Magnetic Pulser at joints, lymph node sites, over body organs, and on head to reach areas in which deep infection is lodged and/or where there is limited blood flow for 20 minutes daily.

If you miss any one of these 4 steps you are not doing the Beck protocol. Also, if you are using a Hulda Clarke style zapper... then you should know that scientific examination has shown that these do not work. Beck says it takes 6 weeks of continual treatments to see an improvement. I'm not sure what is going on with you, there are so many things other than pathogens which can affect our health! But if your unwellness is caused by pathogens then this is a very effective protocol.



Thanks Dawn,

You are right I was not doing the above protocol. I got my zapper from a kinesiologist I know. He recommended one hour a day for 2 months. I did use silver but not the ozonated water (though I did use many other natural toxin flushes).

Maybe I will try again and see if it makes a difference.

Thanks

SunSea
4th April 2014, 03:24
Thanks Dawn , its good to hear what the protocol is. As I said, all this is very new to me and I'm really enjoying learning. Just started listening to the first video on page 1. Awesome to say the least. How wonderful for you to have found something that works so well.

ThePythonicCow
4th April 2014, 07:49
3. Drinking ozonated (not oxygenated) water after the 2 hour blood electrification in order to cleanse the blood and eliminate any toxins created from die off
The mad scientist in me is wondering if chlorine dioxide (the active ingredient of MMS) would be a better blood detox agent than ozone.

There is a rather informative, albeit technical, comparison of chlorine dioxide vs ozone at http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm.

pathaka
4th April 2014, 08:44
Couple of questions.

1) Isn't the full Bob Beck protocol in four stages :

- Zap the blood
- Zap the biofilm, lymph nodes, etc
- Drink colloidal water to
- Drink ozonated water (and or ozonate the blood)

2) I have the SOTA Bio Tuner. How does the MiniZap differ? The specs are scant on their own page.

3) Is the use of MiniZapper without the rest of the Beck protocol beneficial?

conk
4th April 2014, 18:57
Biofilms can be handled with massive enzyme therapy. Marcozyme from Marco Pharma Int. Roseburg, Oregon 97470 (I found some online) is a ready made capsule that contains the correct amount and kind. It has been successful in breaking up Lyme cysts.

Dawn
4th April 2014, 22:22
Paul: The mad scientist in me is wondering of chlorine dioxide (the active ingredient of MMS) would be a better blood detox agent than ozone.

There is a rather informative, albeit technical, comparison of chlorine dioxide vs ozone at http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2...ne-dioxide.htm.

I have realized that I am aware of information which Bob Beck did not present and that this knowledge has acted as a base of information for me.... yet I have not shared it. This is very interesting stuff... read on...

Here is a link to Robert O. Becker's (NOT to be confused with Bob Beck) book: The Body Electric:
http://www.amazon.com/Body-Electric-Electromagnetism-Foundation-Life/dp/0688069711/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1396648499&sr=1-1


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sUF5qCF3L.jpg

In this book Becker goes into depth about his research into re-growing salamander legs and other body parts using ELECTRICITY and COLLOIDAL SILVER in combination. He discovered that this combination caused the blood cells to de-differentiate. Once this occurred, they acted as stem cells, attaching to wounded or damaged tissue in the body in order to re-grow damaged or missing tissue. Becker worked with nano-volts, instead of the stronger voltage in the Beck devices. He did mention that if the electric stimulation was too great, the effect would diminish or not occur. However, the effect of the Beck device on the blood beneath the skin develops an electric charge throughout the bloodstream... and this may explain why Beck found symptoms of aging reversing in his body.

From this information I have extrapolated that the reason Colloidal Silver works in the Beck protocol may NOT be for the reason stated by Beck in his talks. Instead, the main reason why the silver may be important is not in killing blood borne parasites, but in helping the blood cells to act as stem cells throughout the body wherever they are needed. If this is true then imbibing in poisonous MMS might NOT work at all.


pathaka: Couple of questions.

1) Isn't the full Bob Beck protocol in four stages :

- Zap the blood
- Zap the biofilm, lymph nodes, etc
- Drink colloidal water to
- Drink ozonated water (and or ozonate the blood)

2) I have the SOTA Bio Tuner. How does the MiniZap differ? The specs are scant on their own page.

3) Is the use of MiniZapper without the rest of the Beck protocol beneficial?

The SOTA Bio Tuner has clips for your ears and has frequency modulation which affects brain waves. It is not used to clean the blood.

If you would like to purchase a Beck Blood cleaning device from Sota then you would purchase the 'Sota Silver Pulser' for this purpose. In order to correctly 'zap the blood' (in your wording) you must use a Beck design or device. This is important, because Hulda Clark also developed a 'zapper' but it has been shown to be ineffective... so you must pay attention to using the correct device. ( I should mention that Bob Beck approved of the Sota devices. Also, they won a law suit in Canada with the government, who had tried to shut them down. As a result the public web site they have does not show much info... but if you become a member then you will be able to find a lot of info on the Sota site about all of this)

When you say "Zap the biofilm, lymph nodes, etc" are you clear that the Beck protocol uses a MAGNETIC PULSE in these areas? Sota makes one or you can make your own. You do not use the 'MiniZapper' in these areas

Drinking colloidal water is an incomplete understanding. He recommends 'Colloidal Silver' water. BIG difference!

And finally, the ozonated water helps the body deal with the toxins that bacteria make as they are dying and with the dead pathogens which the body must dispose of. If you don't do this you can end up with flu symptoms that are very uncomfortable. So this is done for your comfort while on the protocol so that you do not suffer from a Herxheimer reaction.

It seems to me that using the MiniZapper by itself would be beneficial... you could try it and let us all know your results.

Dawn
4th April 2014, 22:29
conc: Biofilms can be handled with massive enzyme therapy. Marcozyme from Marco Pharma Int. Roseburg, Oregon 97470 (I found some online) is a ready made capsule that contains the correct amount and kind. It has been successful in breaking up Lyme cysts.

Just to be clear here, Beck says that his protocol totally eliminates Lyme in 6 weeks. It also eliminates AIDS, cancer and many 'incurable' or 'difficult to cure' diseases in that same time. Only herpes needs additional treatment beyond the 6 week protocol. In the case of herpes the treatment time is 5 months.

ThePythonicCow
5th April 2014, 00:07
Paul: The mad scientist in me is wondering of chlorine dioxide (the active ingredient of MMS) would be a better blood detox agent than ozone.
From this information I have extrapolated that the reason Colloidal Silver works in the Beck protocol may NOT be for the reason stated by Beck in his talks. Instead, the main reason why the silver may be important is not in killing blood borne parasites, but in helping the blood cells to act as stem cells throughout the body wherever they are needed. If this is true then imbibing in poisonous MMS might NOT work at all.
Well, yes, certainly possible that whatever I was thinking might NOT work :).

In my present (half baked) view, silver is quite different than either ozone or chlorine dioxide (MMS.) Silver is a conductor (excess mobile electron in the outer shell.) Ozone and chlorine dioxide are oxidizers (one or two missing electrons in the outer shell.)

It was the ozone that I imagined replacing with chlorine dioxide, not the silver.

The silver (in my half baked view, again) would be a useful conductive mineral to improve electrical conductivity.

The ozone or chlorine dioxide would be useful detoxifiers, cleaning up the toxins released earlier in the protocol steps, by combining with them and neutralizing them. Of the two, I trust chlorine dioxide more in my body.

Just a theory.

meat suit
5th April 2014, 08:34
Paul: The mad scientist in me is wondering of chlorine dioxide (the active ingredient of MMS) would be a better blood detox agent than ozone.
From this information I have extrapolated that the reason Colloidal Silver works in the Beck protocol may NOT be for the reason stated by Beck in his talks. Instead, the main reason why the silver may be important is not in killing blood borne parasites, but in helping the blood cells to act as stem cells throughout the body wherever they are needed. If this is true then imbibing in poisonous MMS might NOT work at all.
Well, yes, certainly possible that whatever I was thinking might NOT work :).

In my present (half baked) view, silver is quite different than either ozone or chlorine dioxide (MMS.) Silver is a conductor (excess mobile electron in the outer shell.) Ozone and chlorine dioxide are oxidizers (one or two missing electrons in the outer shell.)

It was the ozone that I imagined replacing with chlorine dioxide, not the silver.

The silver (in my half baked view, again) would be a useful conductive mineral to improve electrical conductivity.

The ozone or chlorine dioxide would be useful detoxifiers, cleaning up the toxins released earlier in the protocol steps, by combining with them and neutralizing them. Of the two, I trust chlorine dioxide more in my body.

Just a theory.

excellent thinking Paul,
on that line, would hydrogen peroxide be a candidate too?

The Truth Is In There
5th April 2014, 11:32
Paul: The mad scientist in me is wondering of chlorine dioxide (the active ingredient of MMS) would be a better blood detox agent than ozone.
From this information I have extrapolated that the reason Colloidal Silver works in the Beck protocol may NOT be for the reason stated by Beck in his talks. Instead, the main reason why the silver may be important is not in killing blood borne parasites, but in helping the blood cells to act as stem cells throughout the body wherever they are needed. If this is true then imbibing in poisonous MMS might NOT work at all.
Well, yes, certainly possible that whatever I was thinking might NOT work :).

In my present (half baked) view, silver is quite different than either ozone or chlorine dioxide (MMS.) Silver is a conductor (excess mobile electron in the outer shell.) Ozone and chlorine dioxide are oxidizers (one or two missing electrons in the outer shell.)

It was the ozone that I imagined replacing with chlorine dioxide, not the silver.

The silver (in my half baked view, again) would be a useful conductive mineral to improve electrical conductivity.

The ozone or chlorine dioxide would be useful detoxifiers, cleaning up the toxins released earlier in the protocol steps, by combining with them and neutralizing them. Of the two, I trust chlorine dioxide more in my body.

Just a theory.

ozone and chlorine dioxide are strong degenerating agents. they degenerate everything they come in contact with. that's why they kill (degenerate) bacteria. a high enough dose would also degenerate you.

using such things does not heal, though. they may remove bacteria for a while but the bacteria are never the reason for a disease. in fact, they are victims of the true cause as well as the sick person, and that is why they turn from benevolent into malevolent species in the first place, or excrete toxins which they normally wouldn't do.

the cause of diseases is always the same - the degenerating force, as opposed to the generating force which creates health. since i've learned to feel these two forces, how my body reacts differently to each, and returned to studying walter russells teachings i've learned that there's only one force in the universe that degenerates matter, and that it is the true cause for every kind of degeneration, even though it may come in different appearances.

if today someone tells me about a certain disease and asks my advice i always tell them to first reduce all kinds of man-made radiation the person is subjected to because radiation is the degenerating force, and the stronger its influence (in whatever form it comes) the faster the body breaks down. consequently, the more you remove yourself from its influence, the healthier you (and the little critters inside you) become.

13th Warrior
5th April 2014, 15:44
Paul: The mad scientist in me is wondering of chlorine dioxide (the active ingredient of MMS) would be a better blood detox agent than ozone.
From this information I have extrapolated that the reason Colloidal Silver works in the Beck protocol may NOT be for the reason stated by Beck in his talks. Instead, the main reason why the silver may be important is not in killing blood borne parasites, but in helping the blood cells to act as stem cells throughout the body wherever they are needed. If this is true then imbibing in poisonous MMS might NOT work at all.
Well, yes, certainly possible that whatever I was thinking might NOT work :).

In my present (half baked) view, silver is quite different than either ozone or chlorine dioxide (MMS.) Silver is a conductor (excess mobile electron in the outer shell.) Ozone and chlorine dioxide are oxidizers (one or two missing electrons in the outer shell.)

It was the ozone that I imagined replacing with chlorine dioxide, not the silver.

The silver (in my half baked view, again) would be a useful conductive mineral to improve electrical conductivity.

The ozone or chlorine dioxide would be useful detoxifiers, cleaning up the toxins released earlier in the protocol steps, by combining with them and neutralizing them. Of the two, I trust chlorine dioxide more in my body.

Just a theory.

I know our bodies use oxygen to detox; I don't know if chlorine dioxide is utilized the same way in the body?

Could you survive in a room full of chlorine dioxide?

ThePythonicCow
5th April 2014, 20:39
on that line, would hydrogen peroxide be a candidate too?


ozone and chlorine dioxide are strong degenerating agents. they degenerate everything they come in contact with. that's why they kill (degenerate) bacteria. a high enough dose would also degenerate you.


I know our bodies use oxygen to detox; I don't know if chlorine dioxide is utilized the same way in the body?

Could you survive in a room full of chlorine dioxide?
Earlier in this thread I recommended an article from LennTech Water Treatment Solutions on chlorine dioxide. Their library (http://www.lenntech.com/library/index.htm) has several such good articles:

Chlorine dioxide (http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm)
Hydrogen Peroxide (http://www.lenntech.com/library/oxidation/h2o2/hydrogen-peroxide.htm)
Ozone (http://www.lenntech.com/library/ozone/ozone-introduction.htm)
Disinfectants (http://www.lenntech.com/water-treatment-chemicals.htm#Disinfectants)
Oxidants (http://www.lenntech.com/water-treatment-chemicals.htm#Oxidants)

I'm no chemist, but from what I can tell, several factors effect the usefulness of these various chemicals for water treatment, some of which are particularly relevant for "personal research" as well. I am less concerned personally with the cost per ton than the folks that run my municipal water supply systems, and I am more concerned with its biological safety and selectivity, being more harmful to "baddies" than to my own body tissues.

Chlorine dioxide seems to have relatively low oxidation potential (see the table on the Hydrogen Peroxide (http://www.lenntech.com/library/oxidation/h2o2/hydrogen-peroxide.htm)) page) than some of these oxidizers, which is good - less aggressive over all than some. Flourine has the highest potential, and I understand is the most dangerous. Chlorine dioxide also is described here (http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm) as being "the most selective oxidant", which sounds good too.

Each of these have their "protocols" ... ways that are both effective and not too harmful. I would guess that hydrogen peroxide might have some useful way to help detox, but I have no clue what that way might be. Thanks to Jim Humble's work, and the various additional experimentation some of us have done since, we do have some quite workable protocols for chlorine dioxide (MMS).

I do know, the hard way, that one does not want to breath much chlorine dioxide, much less be in a room full of it. My lungs were sore and coughing for two days after. Jim Humble reports the same results. Do not breath chlorine dioxide in any greater quantity than a sniff of the bottle to see (smell) if it still smells potent.

Dawn
5th April 2014, 20:43
I must confess Paul that I did not look at the PDF until today, which you supplied the link for here:

Paul: There is a rather informative, albeit technical, comparison of chlorine dioxide vs ozone at http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm.

This article is a discussion of how to use chlorine dioxide OUTSIDE of the body. Since we are discussing it here, I'd like to contribute my personal experience with it. I was excited when the original information about MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution), made from chlorine dioxide came out. At that time I was a full time alternative health practitioner, and I recommended it to many of my clients, as well as taking it myself. None of my clients were able to stick with the protocol Jim Humble recommended at that time. The protocol then was to slowly build up to between 15-17 drops in water 3 times daily. Everyone got so sick trying to achieve these levels.... but stupidly... I stuck with it to the bitter end. The result? I ended up wearing diapers for part of that protocol and for an additional 9 months afterwards. I did not become healthy again until I went on a strict GAPS protocol (3 years later). My digestive system is still over-sensitive and now I have had to go on an even stricter 'BulletproofExec' diet in order to remain healthy.

My body has an extreme adverse reaction to even ONE drop of chlorine dioxide and immediately goes into many days of diarrhea after even ONE dose.

I guess I figure that if this was actually good for my body it would not have such an adverse reaction.

Ozonated water is a different experience (for me) and has no side effects.

It just might be that the original protocol, which was later changed by Humble, poisoned my body so that it no longer will accept chlorine dioxide. I'm not certain if this is the situation. I just know that it makes me very ill... so I don't use it. I still have the ingredients to make it and consider that in a disaster it could be useful. Otherwise I avoid it.

I believe that the body has an innate wisdom and we go against it at our own peril.

ThePythonicCow
5th April 2014, 20:56
My body has an extreme adverse reaction to even ONE drop of chlorine dioxide and immediately goes into many days of diarrhea after even ONE dose.

I guess I figure that if this was actually good for my body it would not have such an adverse reaction.

Ozonated water is a different experience (for me) and has no side effects.

...
I believe that the body has an innate wisdom and we go against it at our own peril.
Yes, indeed, listen to one's own body :).

We are a various diverse lot, us humans.

I was on the other end of the MMS spectrum, taking the higher doses with little effect ... I'm pretty sure that you and I are not identical twins.

Dawn
5th April 2014, 22:11
Paul: I was on the other end of the MMS spectrum, taking the higher doses with little effect ... I'm pretty sure that you and I are not identical twins.

Viva la difference. I always love to hear your thoughts Paul... and I look forward to every single post. :ear:

Alan
5th April 2014, 23:00
We are a various diverse lot, us humans.

I was on the other end of the MMS spectrum, taking the higher doses with little effect ... I'm pretty sure that you and I are not identical twins.

Paul, did you ever try the newer protocols? Like 1-3 drops per hour (protocol 1000), or CDS instead of MMS?

www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/cds_making_shot_glass_method.pdf

ThePythonicCow
6th April 2014, 00:58
Paul, did you ever try the newer protocols? Like 1-3 drops per hour (protocol 1000), or CDS instead of MMS?

www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/cds_making_shot_glass_method.pdf

I've experimented with some of these protocols, though I had not see the shot glass methods before - interesting!

I won't go further into what I've done here, as that would be furthering a thread derailment that I've already begun and furthered too far.

Perhaps some day ... it would be a lengthy discussion.

Thanks.

NancyV
6th April 2014, 04:03
It's great that the Beck zapper and protocol are working well for some. I wish I could use a zapper but they don't agree with me. I still have the last zapper I bought, just a small one, and I sold another type of direct current machine which was fairly expensive ($1500 or so) after only about a week of use. Both my husband and I have bad reactions to any kind of direct zapping or direct current electricity. We both get very painful cramps that do not go away with continued treatments.

We do fine with Pulsed Electromagnetic Field machines. We also tried the MMS treatments. My husband quit in about 10 days when his sickness didn't lessen. I stuck with it for a about a month and kept getting sicker and sicker, throwing up many times a day. I was really excited about MMS but after trying I finally had to admit that I am allergic to it.

The Truth Is In There
6th April 2014, 13:29
It's great that the Beck zapper and protocol are working well for some. I wish I could use a zapper but they don't agree with me. I still have the last zapper I bought, just a small one, and I sold another type of direct current machine which was fairly expensive ($1500 or so) after only about a week of use. Both my husband and I have bad reactions to any kind of direct zapping or direct current electricity. We both get very painful cramps that do not go away with continued treatments.

We do fine with Pulsed Electromagnetic Field machines. We also tried the MMS treatments. My husband quit in about 10 days when his sickness didn't lessen. I stuck with it for a about a month and kept getting sicker and sicker, throwing up many times a day. I was really excited about MMS but after trying I finally had to admit that I am allergic to it.

this shows that you're very sensitive to that which harms you. a high sensitivity is a good thing if one knows how to use it. it's only problematic when one listens to other people who tell you the opposite of what you feel in your own body.

remember, the microbe is nothing, the territory is everything. change the territory and you change the microbes.

don't change the territory, kill all the microbes and even worse ones will surely take their place.

sheme
6th April 2014, 14:15
Bob Beck says don't go near Garlic of any kind while using his treatment because it is deadly poison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14aZbjs0mIY

The Truth Is In There
7th April 2014, 10:37
Bob Beck says don't go near Garlic of any kind while using his treatment because it is deadly poison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14aZbjs0mIY

this is what i mean. people tell you one thing, you try it and your body may tell you just the opposite. that's why it's useful to develop a heightened sensitivity.

he may be right or he may be wrong or it could be different from person to person. i haven't eaten any garlic in a year or so, so i can't say how i feel now when i eat it. back then i was as numb and insensitive as most everybody else and felt no negative effects from eating garlic. this may be different now. it's worth a try i guess.

but here's an example - how do animals know that some plants are toxic and don't eat them? they don't have books or biology classes. no, they have a heightened sensitivity and listen to that and that alone. it shows them via the plants' vibrations which of them generate and which plants degenerate physical matter (living bodies, in this case) and hence, health. no zappers but no diseases either, at least in most wild animals.

nature is not about war, it's about different conditions for different beings with their different purposes. be nice to the bacteria and they'll be nice to you. harm them with electric fields and you'll be harmed by them in return. candida for example grows abundantly in people who are surrounded by strong electric fields all the time.

Carmen
9th April 2014, 21:37
Interestingly, a Becks blood cleanser is included with my new Energy Wellness machine. Also a colloidal silver producer. These particular machines were imported from America but with the FDA shutting down alternative methods of healing, they are now made in Christchurch New Zealand. My son has two of these machines, one for his personal use and another one to lend out to people. I took his spare one to a friend of mine whose face was munted from crashing his plane, (the joy stick went through his mouth and up toward his brain!!!) His face has been well repaired on the outside but the insides have holes and bits missing! His surgeons are worried about infection, so the Energy Wellness machine will guard against that. He is starting with teeth though as his shattered teeth are causing continuous pain! This man is a doctor himself so it will be interesting to observe his reaction to the machine.

I am about to start the detox programme this morning.

Carmen
9th April 2014, 22:30
I'm keen to use the Becks blood cleanser when the time is right. Some of the diseases/conditions that the Energy Wellness machine cured among family and friends are, cancer (my ex husband was given a 50/50 chance of surviving, he has now got the all clear), boils, varookas (spelling!) pnuemonia, infection, toothache, pain. I wanted to say colds and flu but I haven't had colds and flu to treat! I'm sure it would stop them too. In other words the Energy Wellness machine is my doctor! I'm 64 now and take no medications of any sort.

Dawn
10th April 2014, 01:35
the truth is in there: this is what i mean. people tell you one thing, you try it and your body may tell you just the opposite. that's why it's useful to develop a heightened sensitivity.

he may be right or he may be wrong or it could be different from person to person. i haven't eaten any garlic in a year or so, so i can't say how i feel now when i eat it. back then i was as numb and insensitive as most everybody else and felt no negative effects from eating garlic. this may be different now. it's worth a try i guess.

...... no zappers but no diseases either, at least in most wild animals.

nature is not about war, it's about different conditions for different beings with their different purposes. be nice to the bacteria and they'll be nice to you. harm them with electric fields and you'll be harmed by them in return. candida for example grows abundantly in people who are surrounded by strong electric fields all the time.

Please Stay On Topic: OK lets get back on topic here. This thread is about the Beck protocol. If you have actually listened to the hours of available video and read the documents Beck compiled (all available online) then you will be aware that Beck's protocol is known to reverse symptoms of aging and all types of diseases.

Don't Eat Poison while on the Beck Protocol: When you actually study garlic you will find that it is a KNOWN POISON! Since the direct current used in the Beck blood cleaner opens cell wall pores, causing them absorb blood born foods and chemicals to a greater degree.... you NATURALLY WOULD NOT WANT TO EAT A KNOWN POISON WHILE USING THE TREATMENT! Here is just one of the many articles available on the toxicity of garlic: http://rense.com/general76/Dpi.htm

Candida and fungus die out completely with use of the Beck protocol. This includes cancer, which studies show are actually a result of fungus in the body. Your comments about candida and electrical fields are not relevant to this discussion. Why did you post this here?

Please don't derail the thread with speculation that is not based on knowledge of and use of the Beck protocol. (that being said... I still always listen to my own body wisdom first)


Carmen: I'm keen to use the Becks blood cleanser when the time is right. Some of the diseases/conditions that the Energy Wellness machine cured among family and friends are, cancer (my ex husband was given a 50/50 chance of surviving, he has now got the all clear), boils, varookas (spelling!) pnuemonia, infection, toothache, pain.

Carmen's results are the rule... not the exception... with the Beck protocol.

Dont be a Troll! Please don't act like an internet troll by posting comments in an attempt to scare people away from using something beneficial.

The Truth Is In There
11th April 2014, 09:39
the truth is in there: this is what i mean. people tell you one thing, you try it and your body may tell you just the opposite. that's why it's useful to develop a heightened sensitivity.

he may be right or he may be wrong or it could be different from person to person. i haven't eaten any garlic in a year or so, so i can't say how i feel now when i eat it. back then i was as numb and insensitive as most everybody else and felt no negative effects from eating garlic. this may be different now. it's worth a try i guess.

...... no zappers but no diseases either, at least in most wild animals.

nature is not about war, it's about different conditions for different beings with their different purposes. be nice to the bacteria and they'll be nice to you. harm them with electric fields and you'll be harmed by them in return. candida for example grows abundantly in people who are surrounded by strong electric fields all the time.

Please Stay On Topic: OK lets get back on topic here. This thread is about the Beck protocol. If you have actually listened to the hours of available video and read the documents Beck compiled (all available online) then you will be aware that Beck's protocol is known to reverse symptoms of aging and all types of diseases.

Don't Eat Poison while on the Beck Protocol: When you actually study garlic you will find that it is a KNOWN POISON! Since the direct current used in the Beck blood cleaner opens cell wall pores, causing them absorb blood born foods and chemicals to a greater degree.... you NATURALLY WOULD NOT WANT TO EAT A KNOWN POISON WHILE USING THE TREATMENT! Here is just one of the many articles available on the toxicity of garlic: http://rense.com/general76/Dpi.htm

Candida and fungus die out completely with use of the Beck protocol. This includes cancer, which studies show are actually a result of fungus in the body. Your comments about candida and electrical fields are not relevant to this discussion. Why did you post this here?

Please don't derail the thread with speculation that is not based on knowledge of and use of the Beck protocol. (that being said... I still always listen to my own body wisdom first)


Carmen: I'm keen to use the Becks blood cleanser when the time is right. Some of the diseases/conditions that the Energy Wellness machine cured among family and friends are, cancer (my ex husband was given a 50/50 chance of surviving, he has now got the all clear), boils, varookas (spelling!) pnuemonia, infection, toothache, pain.

Carmen's results are the rule... not the exception... with the Beck protocol.

Dont be a Troll! Please don't act like an internet troll by posting comments in an attempt to scare people away from using something beneficial.

my intention is not to scare people away. they're welcome to treat symptoms with the becks protocol. by that they won't remove the cause, though. that which caused the disease in the first place will still be there even after they used the becks protocol, so it's just a temporary help at best.

fungi (of which candida is one) or microbes are never the cause of anything. their overgrowth is only an effect. the studies that imply that cancer is the result of fungi in the body have it wrong. if that is not relevant to this discussion i rest my case.

CurEus
11th April 2014, 09:44
Couple of questions.

1) Isn't the full Bob Beck protocol in four stages :

- Zap the blood
- Zap the biofilm, lymph nodes, etc
- Drink colloidal water to
- Drink ozonated water (and or ozonate the blood)

2) I have the SOTA Bio Tuner. How does the MiniZap differ? The specs are scant on their own page.

3) Is the use of MiniZapper without the rest of the Beck protocol beneficial?

The Sota biotuner is a CES device Cranio electrical simulation. It is helpful for neurological concerns, anxiety, memory, learning and addiction. Some report enhanced lucid dreaming

http://www.sota.com/bio-tuner.html

The silver pulser is actually 2 units. One setting is for blood elctricfication and the other setting makes colloidal silver.

http://www.sota.com/silver-pulser.html

I'd say that the mini zapper would be helpful alone if one were to use it. I use the sota pulser for a cold or flu and I've used it to treat a tooth infection. I don't have any serious infection that I'm aware of but people with Lyme disease and fibromyalgia have reported improvement.

Dawn
11th April 2014, 19:39
the truth is in there: my intention is not to scare people away. they're welcome to treat symptoms with the becks protocol. by that they won't remove the cause, though. that which caused the disease in the first place will still be there even after they used the becks protocol, so it's just a temporary help at best.

fungi (of which candida is one) or microbes are never the cause of anything. their overgrowth is only an effect. the studies that imply that cancer is the result of fungi in the body have it wrong. if that is not relevant to this discussion i rest my case.

Thank you for your thoughtful post. I am glad to hear that you are coming from the perspective of looking at cause. I think our entire modern culture is ill, actually. And perhaps it is because almost no human truly loves himself (herself), and believes they have a right to true happiness and health. There are so many ways to look at illness in the people.

The Beck protocol addresses people who are ill from the modern lifestyle... with its packaged moldy foods, GMOS, GMO grain fed meats, and poisonous additives. It also addresses the weakened immune systems of the elderly, and of children born to parents who exposed themselves to toxins while gestating their infants. I think that paying attention to the causes of illness are very important. However, you must admit that there is a point where nothing else can be done or discovered for an ill person... and believe it or not... the Beck protocol will allow someone's immune system to engage on their deathbed. Because of its ability to allow a weakened immune system to rebound, anecdotal stories abound of people who come back from terminal illness.

The Beck protocol is not a substitute for leaving modern life behind, living barefoot as a breatharian, and using sexual energy to re-invigorate the body... thus becoming immortal. This protocol is for the common man as an alternative to Allopathic Medicine Quackery, which tortures terminally ill people until they give up and die in pain. It is actually a WORKING form of medicine.


CurEus: The silver pulser is actually 2 units. One setting is for blood elctricfication and the other setting makes colloidal silver.

http://www.sota.com/silver-pulser.html

I'd say that the mini zapper would be helpful alone if one were to use it. I use the sota pulser for a cold or flu and I've used it to treat a tooth infection. I don't have any serious infection that I'm aware of but people with Lyme disease and fibromyalgia have reported improvement.

Thank you for this note. Sota is the only manufacturer I am aware of that worked directly with Bob Beck before his untimely death. Because of this their devices are the only ones to be approved by Beck. The MiniZap was only developed recently (long after Bob Beck's death) and was never blessed by Beck. It does the same job as the Sota Silver-pulser...... the difference is that it is easily portable and can be worn like a wristwatch.

sigma6
12th April 2014, 20:31
This is such an awesome video. What a humble man.
It seems these videos are the only places where you will ever be able to see this.
Another era. Someone freely offering the gift of health that many take for granted
deserves another bump
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Hughe
12th April 2014, 21:19
It has better quality.

BOB BECK LECTURE (http://www.keelynet.com/images/beckpulser.pdf)


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Lecture

A tested, revolutionary but almost unbelievable medical discovery may enable rapid AIDS,
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In the lecture, Bob Beck says the Blood Electrification device has adverse side effect on substances like Garlic. He suggests that removing such type of substances out of the body before applying the Blood Electrification device is mandatory.

Here is the link of the Bob Beck Protocol. PDF version of book is free.
http://www.sharinghealth.com/bob-beck-protocol.html

spade
17th June 2018, 10:23
Dawn, there's another person who worked with Bob Beck, and he has mentioned that there is more to zapping that Bob Beck let out... apparently zapping across 2 wrists on both hand is 100% more effective than just on one wrist alone. His products really work and is 100% authentic.
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