What If The Bible Is The Agenda.

[Azt]

Ok, before I be accused of heresy or anti-cristian or disinfo agent or whatever negative label you might use. I just want to share a thought I had today.

What if the bible is the agenda, I mean it seems that what is written there is "happening" now (of course due to interpretations), things like an anti-christ for example is to avoid the acceptance of a benevolent being that suppose to return to this world? (if the people in charge know that in advance so they would write or rewrite the bible in a way to benefit them, by labeling him as anti-christ so nobody would believe him) that is just an example.

I am not saying that an anti-christ is not an anti-christ but it seems many people try to trace who is he or she but that might be part of the plan to block any enlighten being to openly come to Earth (so, they label it anti-christ).

Noah and the flood could also be a men-made event (type of tsunami) and then after "everyone" is gone , they can re-write the story as they like ... the same goes if we go for a WW3, all our thoughts and ideas here now goes a way to give space for the "official version" made by the survivors underground smoking cigars ...

Your thoughts?

[Rocky_Shorz]

well actually the world is being molded to fulfill prophesy, which is what is causing all the problems... The Zionist agenda is well known...

fulfillment of the prophesies should change the world...

everyone thinks the end of the world is the new beginning, but we are living the new beginning, and we've messed up pretty bad since the last apocalypse...

[Lifebringer]

I have faith, there is a Christ, and pray those books that were altered, will be revealed. I heard it was the Jewish San Hedrin that changed some of the books after Ramses and his army were engulfed in the waters of the Jordan. There was "no heir to the thrown" as Pharoah's son and he had perished. What did Nefreteri do after? I have to look it up in my favorites sites, but now I know why Christ dwelled among the Gentiles to feel safe. Seems like they kept all their transcripts clean, and everyone's been able to learn from them what happened at various times throughout civilization's history. Something as sacred as God's word/teachings for his children, and they even screw that up.

Like I said, sheesh!:jaw: dropping moments, have become normal since I started to search every book, turn every archaeological site's information, because we were told and they were warned, because "God KNEW" they would tamper with the last generations text of which there is barely any understanding and keeps so many in the dark on everything.:nod:
Since they say, good conquers all evil, then I think it's about that time, for some good to happen, in waves even.:bounce:


Sheesh, such treachery for money and power. Puts me to mind of that character in the 10 commandment movie, "Dathan?" To bite their own Messiah, I'm surprised their people didn't rise up and end those responsible, but they were listening to the "Master of Peace" who walked among them. How I wish He were here to straighten the way, that led so many astray.:nod:

Well...it's finals time...hope we pass all the tests.:cool:

[Lifebringer]

As a whole, yes man has messed up pretty badly, and granted since England has a female rule also, woeman has also. But I'll not take responsibility for the nasty murderous intent placed in everyone's way as they go through this life. I simply don't have it in me, unless I'm threatened...then...something happens...then...I see red, and the end of the problem in my head, when I was younger, then as I matured a glaring stare at those who would do harmful things. Then I saw something in the sky, and died and hovered over my body, and then found after decades of no truthful answers or some cockamamie explanation, stolen vote purging, 911 foreboding, moving family south w/me, I worked my way back to finding me. Soon as the last child was out and on their own to college, I began to remember me. I remembered, that I didn't take kindly to bs, and back in the day, i'd have vengefully done something about it, and I think that's the part of the world, that I fell for. One of self-defense, and self delusion by religious practices, taught by a child pedophile Reverend.

I found the internet, doesn't bite me, as well as I can chew back, as see myself just observing as the tapestry unfolds/scroll of deeds unfolds around the world. My mind will find the intent and then I'll know if there'll be justice and fairplay, and tolerance, or, just a repeat of genocidal histories, that man/woeman has much to repent for.
The lowly human is humble and asks for forgiveness when realizing they hurt someone, or said something hurtful.
The egomaniac has no shame, and therefore has no humble bones in his body, unless confronted, addressed, and asked to explain before a court of peers.
Since they think they are Gods and worship the MONEYGod, then they will be confronted by a God. They created the story, and that's why they shake in their boots.

[korgh]

Interesting topic.
I was thinking almost the same few days ago after watched the Ancient Aliens episode (S06 E05) - The Satan Conspiracy, where they suggest that Satan may have been an extraterrestrial who was more of an ally to humanity than an enemy, who gave the knowledge to the men and become closer from God.
Nice episode indeed: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16koqw_ancient-aliens-s06-e05-the-satan-conspiracy_lifestyle
Like Azt said: "Ok, before I be accused of heresy or anti-cristian or disinfo agent or whatever negative label you might use."
... please, don't throw me on the pyre to burn :)

[Snoweagle]

The Bible is a wholly owned product of Judaism. So the question asked here really is: What if the Torah (Talmud) is wrong?
https://eclinik.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/the-lies-we-believe-in/

The Vatican is wholly owned by the Elite whom use the enforcement of Judaic Freemasonry to drive terror and control. Headquarters in Switzerland. The Queen of England is just a figurehead.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/10718387/Egypt-sentences-529-Mohammed-Morsi-supporters-to-death-in-single-trial.html
Israel is the "protector" of the new political force in Egypt.

This is an example to the people of the US, the EU and the rest of the world how the new Judaic economic UN will pursue global denomination.

The plan for a grand coming out party is extolled by Jewish groups as they anticipate in 2016 the rebuilding or reinstatement of the Temple of Solomon (Soul of Man) on the Temple Mount. Their task has to be complete first, which is the extermination of the global population and entrapment into servility for survivors.

So, returning to the tenet of the original question, yes, the Bible will be blamed and hopefully the dissolution of ALL religious groups will follow. But that would mean without a common religion the Elite would lose control, so Christianity will be replaced.

If Christianity collapses then Judaism and all its evil divisiveness will be crowned the religion of the world. Then the true holocaust begins. In fact it has already started world wide.

[ulli]

The most powerful and all-encompassing belief and prophecy will be the winner.
Reality is caused by the collective consciousness, and many are striving to influence it towards their agenda.

And if the goal is world peace, based on the Old Testament prophecy
"and they shall beat their swords into plough shares", then the only question which remains
is 'what are the means used to get there?'
Not a bad goal, I'm only wondering if such a noble goal justifies the means.

[sigma6]

I've heard that the KJV version of the Torah isn't anywhere near similar to an actual Jewish Torah. Why would King James commission The Master of the Priori of Sion and Sir Francis Bacon (aka William Shakespeare) to rewrite it? i.e. in so many ways we are being told the Bible is not what it seems. According to Bart Ehrman the oldest original complete Bible is 400 years after the actual "event" and in the possession of the Roman Priest class I believe and there are so many different variations (factual errors and different information) according to Ehrman, it can't even be calculated with modern recording technology.

Of the tiny percentage of today's population that even considers it (I wouldn't even want to hazard a guess...) I would say 90% of those people would rather place their trust in others than read it themselves. To the elites I am sure it is just one book of many, and they carry secret knowledge of it's origin and interpretation. The book is written in such a way that it is open to many alternative interpretations. This is inevitable because of all the different "styles" of writing that have been applied to it, including secret code. This should give pause to all the people who know someone else (their spiritual leader) who claims to know the true meaning. Considering all the books written on law (as opposed to all the statutes that have been written which are in turn interpretations of these laws, to create corporate policies) And that many of these books especially the books written on Trust Interpretation are even larger then the bible itself! These people (back then) may have known more about the bible as well (since they were actually part of secret societies mentioned above.)

I have no doubt elite factions study and use the Bible as a tool of political manipulation today. It is a very powerful and influential text, it is just horribly misinterpreted. I don't believe in the literal interpretation, since it still requires an interpretation in order to define what is meant by literal... ambiguous by definition.

[Snoweagle]

@sigma6 Sorry, sigma6, IMHO finding Any sort of justification for promoting any replacement for any religion will further the goals of the Elite only and promote the destitution of humanity into slavery under one tribe.

Promoting the Old Testament is ludicrous. The Old Testament was born during the imprisonment of the Israelites during the Exodus in the worlds first known concentration camp.

What we need is NO religion but an educated populace who can work together collectively without burden of debt of interest.

[Snowflower]

The key question is how to experience a spiritual connection to the source of creation without creating dogma and without inviting the psychopaths to convert that connection into a superstition designed to control action and belief?

[korgh]

IMO, most of religious books ( i do not do any mention about names) are based in a concept of conduct written to help. ..and at least should be like this but the "real" agenda went hidden inside of the work and those "handbooks" were rewritten over and over just to adapt the true objective: take over the known world. So many bad things were made in the name of "someone" because "this was written in the book and should be done" ... and it continues until now. Hidden codes, secret orders, other books burned or denied to the ordinary people just to justify the elite's will.
I read the most of "these" books more than once and definitely I've been filtering what my soul eats through my eyes.

[Cardillac]

in my own humble opinion I just think people need to do the research and realize that where it concerns the three Abrahamic religions, not one of these religions in the present day are practiced in their original forms; all have been compromised/corrupted;

and the minute a religion is politicized (I think we can safely say that about all three Abrahamic religions) one is not worshiping a religion (well, the "books," not the deities) but a political movement-

one must finally realize that religions and money have been in bed together ever since the concept of money was invented; why was the issuance/trading of money in ancient times always in done in temples (refer to the story of Jesus throwing out the money traders)?- because the brokers were able to bribe the priesthood and subsequently became privy to their knowledge; read Joseph Farrell's monumental "Babylon's Banksters" for greatly expanded perspectives on this subject-

as if things have changed: the Vatican bank is one of the most powerful, richest in the world- some sources state the elitist banking families are nothing more than pawns/book-keepers for the Vatican; I don't yet 100% embrace this concept but haven't yet ruled it out; now more food for thought:

"the woes of the world can be attributed to the Vatican" (mega paraphrase on my part)- Jordan Maxwell

"if you want to make a million dollars invent a religion"- L. Ron Hubbard

a lot of things to think about/chew over when one receives a communion wafer...

please stay well all-

Larry

[GK76]

The bible, or rather the books which create the bible are like all stories, you have the literal and the allegory. The bible is a true masterpiece of allegory, or for the lost followers of the church it is merely a child's book of morals and tall tales. All you need is to "Have the eyes to see, and the ears to hear". Where have we heard that before?

Lefty the logical 'brain', he loves the literal. Righty the creative spiritual 'brain', she loves the allegory, which one do you use to KNOW or rather REMEMBER the KNOWLEDGE you've had all along?

Much of the truth of the texts have been programmed out of us by organised religion. They seem to find it amusing to keep us in a control state by using fear and shame. They (the Vatican) have murdered many good people who have kept the truth of the ancient texts. If you want to know who the anti-christ is, look no further than the denizens of the Vatican.

To drag it back on topic (it's here somewhere, honest), here are two people who are teaching and not requiring you to simply and blindly BELIEVE.

Santos Bonacci (http://www.youtube.com/user/MrAstrotheology) teaches the truth called "syncretism", where this is the one and only science or base of knowledge which has been passed down for thousands of years before so-called recorded history began. He points out that the bible is not just a simple book, but an astrotheological treatise which, 'as above, so below' is how the human body mirrors the cosmos as the fractal it truly is.

Here is one of his talks on the subject:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QEaV5DYMs0&list=PL9oUspkyb4AWR37fpuISVOC4oA0-JAuO1

Bill Donahue (http://www.youtube.com/user/bdona4556/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=1) for many years has taught the true meaning of the bible in his non-religious church and gives evidence of his findings. He is in the process of uploading his voluminous work to youtube. Here is one of his videos which explains, using the story of Jacob and Esau (Jacob's ladder), how the mind, body and spirit are linked and how enlightenment-through-meditation happens:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwaYm4dKgk

As for the OP's question about the bible agenda, learn the truth and watch it play out just as if the perpetrators KNOW the truth about the human story (obviously they do). After all, none of this matters, we're just here for the ride! You may as well know what the story is, as we are all creating the script, but some scripts have been planned for many years and are in full flow. Let's hope we're not late to the party again in this cycle.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

With the Bible it's a difficult balance between literalism and enlightenment. :(
We wouldn't read Stephen King and put 100% trust in his words, for example, because he's an asshole -- lol.
But the Bible isn't written from a total asshole's perspective.

In terms of familiarity:
There are people who have the literal book memorized and ready to swing it at you,
and then there are people who might know it less well but have read almost every major religious work and appreciated it.
The second of these two is better prepared to answer your questions than the first. Because he has sought after wisdom.

We know that there is grace for people who have never heard.
That according to that book, even the souls in darkness from the time of Noah got to hear the good news.
That those souls who believe in the Name and those who are concerned for their fellows, have indeed put their emotional currency in the bank account of Love.
I guess you could say they are "saved" from the path of hatred/confusion/despair by their faith in a God who might not necessarily answer when demanded.
The Bible has a lot to say about God's interactions with planet Earth, but really, it has far more to say about human beings and their behavior toward one another and God.

I would recommend reading the Bible from the perspective of a "trial and error" sort of experience, and not necessarily so "black and white".
There are some definite black n white sounding verses, but try to ignore some of that if you can in favor of the bigger, clearer picture.



in regards to Revelation, the stuff put in there is pretty hard to understand because the prophet wasn't from our century -- but you know that within 100 years, many technologies that might have seemed impossible in our time will be commonplace...

Most people know what to look for in the end times: the abomination of desolation, the mark of the beast, and the Son of Man coming like the dawn on the mountainsides.


Aside from those three things, there really isn't much to worry about.
The emotional stuff won't matter very much in the end times -- if it happens, we will all be trapped on the karmic wheel for a few more years, I'm afraid... @@
About 7? If we are lucky?

p.s. yes I am sure capitalism is taking proper advantage of the Bible.. that's what capitalism DOES -- takes advantage.
It might as well be a slave manual the way people are capitalizing on religion..

[Wind]

Even as "formal" christian I've always found the "holy" Bible to be mostly off-putting... Who wrote it? Man did. The God of the old testament is indeed an insane jealous being... Also the whole book is indeed full of allegories, you just can't read it literally. I mostly like what Jesus teached and that was unconditional love and that “The kingdom of God is within you” here and now... And note that he spoke in parables. But of course they tried to own him and his teachings and make him into some kind of a messiah. I don't actually even really buy the idea that he died on the cross and he certainly didn't die for our sins, even as an idea that is ridiculous.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Have you noticed how they have recently promoted the upcoming Noah movie almost everywhere? If only people would understand the real meaning behind that story, well actually quite a few people here do. Also later this year Ridley Scott will release his version of the Exodus. I smell another Hollywood agenda at play.

[Synchronicity]

The key question is how to experience a spiritual connection to the source of creation without creating dogma and without inviting the psychopaths to convert that connection into a superstition designed to control action and belief?

I don't think that is that hard to do. It doesn't require a belief in a God or gods to be spiritually awake, and one can be ethical, moral, and strive to become enlightened and to feel connected to all of creation. I think that is what holds some people back. It doesn't require it at all, but we were taught that it does.

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IMO, most of religious books ( i do not do any mention about names) are based in a concept of conduct written to help. ..and at least should be like this but the "real" agenda went hidden inside of the work and those "handbooks" were rewritten over and over just to adapt the true objective: take over the known world. So many bad things were made in the name of "someone" because "this was written in the book and should be done" ... and it continues until now. Hidden codes, secret orders, other books burned or denied to the ordinary people just to justify the elite's will.
I read the most of "these" books more than once and definitely I've been filtering what my soul eats through my eyes.

I think writing a guide for being compassionate and kind to each other isn't too hard for the most part, but getting humans to not subvert that into power games and darkness is a different matter.

[grannyfranny100]

There are many pathways to God or Source. I just have little respect for religious people who believe their specific dogma is the only way to Source.

If they are trying to force our political system into a theocracy to please their version of God/Christ dogma, they should give up their nonprofit charity status and create a new political party that represents their viewpoint.

[shadowstalker]

I always thought that the Bible showed a lot more towards an agenda then anything else.
In most cases, the Bible seems to be the original version of 1984 in the old testament.
And a new world dominant agenda in the new testament. A Brave New World.
Course there really isn't much difference in either now is there?

True it does have some insights, but not many ppl see this, they are to busy being in fear of a so called loving god to figure it out.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Well Stephen King said something interesting in his novel Desperation;
he made the approximate quip: "God is cruel -- but his cruelty is refining, and not given out of a desire to harm or in wanton rage".

I agree with Grannyfranny100 that there are many ways to access "Source".

Also in regards to the recent ET contact threads, what's wrong with asking people from another world what they think about "God/intelligent universe" etc.?
Many people seem afraid of everything -- afraid of slavery, afraid of the Bible, afraid of UFOs.

One thing the Bible does not say is "God is fear"... ;) and the words that got translated into the word "fear" in the King James probably didn't mean "fear" in the first place.
Just like "shining one" is translated as "serpent"...

@@

People respect God, but the whole fear thing?
When prayer/relationship replaced the priesthood/prophets,
love was supposed to take the place of honor/fear/respect...

Grace/hope/faith/love > fear/power/respect/law


we're not supposed to live in constant fear of God.
what some of the verses meant was that he is the ultimate catalyst,
that even when the body is gone there is an authority with dominion over the soul.

The soul is energy and has to go somewhere -- we do believe in Psychopomps don't we?

Most 'higher' civilizations had some sort of messenger god who accompanies the dead souls to the afterlife... i.e. distributing our energy across the cosmos in an orderly fashion :)



p.s. Jewish women invented Wicca (well the magic it's based on) and used to observe the moon phases, and even offered a monthly sacrifice to the feminine aspect of God! Yet many Christians would say that "magick" as practiced in Israel is "BAD" "cursed by God" etc.... but didn't God use the Witch of Endor in the story? :) lol

[ghostrider]

What better way to control people than to use religion , and say your doing it for your god ... hey allah said go blow yourself up and take as many infidels as you can with you ... Christians will say , if you not on god's side , your against him , your of the devil ... So it's clear that , earth's future will be played out according to one of two books , the Koran , and or the bible ... after all the agenda , as we are told is to get to paradise when we leave this world ...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

What better way to control people than to use religion , and say your doing it for your god ... hey allah said go blow yourself up and take as many infidels as you can with you ... Christians will say , if you not on god's side , your against him , your of the devil ... So it's clear that , earth's future will be played out according to one of two books , the Koran , and or the bible ... after all the agenda , as we are told is to get to paradise when we leave this world ...

Hey now! I'm not trying to argue with you, but consider this:
The human cycle of colonization is driven in part by the "bad religion" you mentioned.
I.e. when the religion becomes corrupted, that is obvious to enough people that they pack up and leave.
The Puritans took it way too far.
But the Rhode Island colony, for example, they were pretty darned open-minded.
They founded the colony because of religious persecution in AMERICA.
Not in Britain. It was the Massachusetts/Connecticut/New Haven crowd that drove R.I. people away to the island in the first place.

What my therapist said once about religion seemed like a cop-out, but he said "We are responsible for what we take away from religion",
i.e. what we choose to keep, observe, respect, is up to ourselves. Because we have the ability to pack up and leave.

The strongest statement against organized religion, aside from confronting it like Martin Luther did, is simply leaving.

Why do you think I talk about other planets all the time? LOL
:)

[linksplatinum]

IMHO
I feel that the biggest schism that most of mankind is facing, is the simple fact that we all have every one of the answers to the mystery encoded within us all, and not that we need a book to tell us any that. Also, this is certainly not the first time on the block (in this reality) that we have returned here, this is just the last rotation in this sequence of this riddle, before the graduation occurs here and everywhere else. What ultimately happens here in our constructs of Universe and self, will harmonize in synchronicity all throughout Creation abroad.

We all have been through this many, many, many times before, just that now in this paradigm we face, we wanted to be challenged to the utmost that our Universe has had to offer. This was meant for us and Creation, to pave the way to prepare ourselves to learn from this and return to zero point. Not to mention, we all volunteered our services when we "Got that Galactic Call", to be here for our own paths to grow spiritually, and help out with this new birthing that is to come into our existence.

I really feel that if those of us can just re-tune out all of the non-essentials, and listen to our inner-core of essence from the heart, the truths, memories of self, our journeys before and what is to come will return when the time is right. We will correlate back to full integration if you choose to, with all of our fractal parts, without the need for some chaperoning type of guidance from any religious books, government, ET's etc.

The crazy part of all of what I am writing right at this moment is, that I get the strongest overwhelming feeling that I have done, and said all of this before in another time in another reality. With that said, "We" are already "in the know"... and that I feel, is what a lot of us fail to remember, with all of the worldly distractions, and games that are played upon us in this "reality", and that we have been conditioned to accept "this" current situation as the "real reality"... Hence... No dogmas, or religious constructs, can ever change what our spiritual paths were meant to be when we returned to this existence.

This existence is now coming around full circle, and we have been given every tool, piece of wisdom, or practice necessary, to carry on with our next step in this voyage because, it literally is written within EACH and every ONE of us through our lineages and seeded heritages... WE ARE ALL ET's

[sigma6]

@sigma6 Sorry, sigma6, IMHO finding Any sort of justification for promoting any replacement for any religion will further the goals of the Elite only and promote the destitution of humanity into slavery under one tribe.

Promoting the Old Testament is ludicrous. The Old Testament was born during the imprisonment of the Israelites during the Exodus in the worlds first known concentration camp.

What we need is NO religion but an educated populace who can work together collectively without burden of debt of interest.

Here is some of the research I have based this interpretation on... (without writing my own book ... lol)
The Biggest Time Line Shift - ROMAN MATRIX - System Of Control By Deception
"Let he who would be deceived, be deceived"
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66839-The-Biggest-Time-Line-Shift-ROMAN-MATRIX-System-Of-Control-By-Deception&p=776944&viewfull=1#post776944

Hmm... np, I wasn't intending to promote the Old Testament... And I'm not sure that I was replacing it with anything else. It is what it is, a grand text in it's own right, (but not something that I would accept as the pure unadulterated "Word of God" Independent reading and ultimately coming to your own interpretation is very important to me. So similar to what you are saying I think. And I also think if you have your own interpretation (right or wrong) it is the only real proof that you have actually thought about it...) and that itself is a beginning)

That said, and according to my research. The Is-Ra-El-ites were actually Egyptians, plain and simple. According to Richard Ellis, Hebrew is derived from Egyptian, and he shows 400 words that demonstrate the connection. This is the secret of the Ages, The Mystery At the Heart of the "Babylon Banksters" (perhaps). It explains why almost everything spoken of in the Old Testament can't be found. Like Solomon's Temple for the example. Imagine for a moment reading about Ancient Egypt, and then not being able to find the Nile, the pyramid, the sphinx, no villages or cities, artifacts, mummies, nothing but the occasional "stone arrow head" (probably snuck on site...) But this is essentially the case with Solomon's Temple, among many other things, which was supposed to be the most opulent and powerful Kingdom in the world at the time, but dog gone it, we just can't find it, at least as it is described in the Bible (unless you decrypt what it is really be made reference to...)

There is much evidence to show that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, also have no archeological context for their existence (outside the Bible) But there is much evidence to show huge similarity to Egyptian figures living at the same time periods, with an actual archaeologically proven recorded history. There is now evidence (coming out) that Akhenaten was Moses. I remember reading even Sigmund Freud (father of psychoanalysis) a Jew and Classical Greek Scholar, speculated on this, and today there are many other authors. If you count up Abraham's holdings in the Bible, that is not what a lowly Shepherd would be in possession of, that would be the possession of a King, or Royal Figure. It also explains why they supposedly left with all the gold, etc... It was a negotiated settlement between Egyptians. The monotheistic Egyptian movement of the Southern Kingdom is well documented, as well as a massive effort to cover it up by erasing all the stonework (good job, whoever tried to pull that off) The more important question for me, is what was the cause of that new interpretation. And btw I think Akhenaten was one of the coneheads, both him and his wife and the kids... as depicted in the representations. This is what interests me the most...

Anyhow, old testament literature can be traced to Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and Sumerian origins, and that blows the whole story out of the "literal interpretation" category (kaput, game over) Thus why the Israeli government, is a proxy, and "religiously" funded by the US (which is really a proxy controlled by the Vatican, Inner City of London, Washington DC, Banking Cabal, i.e. the folks who wrote the 1700 pg Bank Bailout, that NO ONE in congress bothered to read... and thus clearly showing who the REAL POWER is...) who constantly pour money (including 100% illegal nuclear devices that the entire world knows about, once again, the principle of their very existence is based on the world accepting it as a LIE, from the get go, which also happens to be the basis of every Freemason Lodge, which makes up 100% of the population of the Inner City of London) to terrorize and foment war in the middle east. And attack places like Iraq, (look up the scandal about the US army bulldozing their archaeological dig sites and masterminding the break-in and looting of the Ancient Museum containing recently dug up Sumerian artifacts (stone tablets with Sumerian cuneiform) by double crossing the archeologists. (Secret Space Vol II, is reference I think) These artifacts would confirm and expose all of this (that was Saddam's biggest threat, providing evidence written in stone, and daring to turn Iraq into a global tourist attraction presenting a more ancient culture, and thus usurping Egypt as the Cradle of Civilization. Since Egypt rightly owes its existence to Sumerian and Babylonian culture.

The exposure, (and embarrassment) to Western (Roman) "Religion" would be a matter of time after that, not to mention the drain of billions of tourist dollars out of Egypt, into Iraq, once their cover was blown. See (Empire Of the City - World Superstate) and any books by Richard Ellis about the origin and history of Jesus. Alan Watts once said "Once a religion loses the very foundation that it's faith is based on, it loses it's power" The Vatican knows this is coming, since they can no longer murder all the people putting this information out... (unless of course they can ignite another World War... and have yet another go at it for another century or two... and they can surely use the extra few trillion dollars right now I imagine, that would result from all the banks loans that would be dolled out to all the governments that are part of their banking system, given that the collateral is guaranteed, i.e. income taxes from the people to pay the INTEREST (and thus maintaining an every growing debt that NEVER gets paid down...) I believe Karen Hudes, you'd have to be an egg head with an IQ over 150 to figure this out, and even then it took them how many centuries to perfect it to the system they have today... THANK GOD THIS IS FINALLY ALL BEING EXPOSED!...

... and now for a musical interlude...
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Here is some of the research I have based this interpretation on... (without writing my own book ... lol)
The Biggest Time Line Shift - ROMAN MATRIX - System Of Control By Deception
"Let he who would be deceived, be deceived"
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[korgh]

I 'll just focus on some issues that every thread where there is a dilemma regarding beliefs , religions and faith simply ignites discussions that lead to a dead end .
What I will write here is just my point of view and I respect each member here and their beliefs .
I grew up in a deeply Catholic family and all my education until my adulthood was in Catholic colleges for a total of 17 years. I learned to read the Bible and I had access to a good education in science , literature and languages ​​that included Latin and Greek. In religion class , we had to discussing the Bible and try to adapt it to the time it was written and the way in which we would apply it today . Also had access to studies of other faiths such as the Koran , Mahabharata / Bhagavad - Gita among others . I never questioned the words of God in the Bible and I always thought that God wrote and spoke through men (prophets ) but even at that time I believed in Jesus as a prophet . The Virgin Mary was a big mistery to me... Over time the things got even more evident the more I read and watched the world around me . Secret societies , politics and history behind all of this led me again to study the Bible and some old books . Then I began to "think different" and try to adapt the concept again to the events that we are seeing today.
A time when our faith is put to the test with scientific evidence. A time when the Vatican continues to deny evidence that is obvious even to a child of 5 years. A time when the most horrible crimes committed against innocent children by priests. A time when you talk about astronauts, UFOs, remote viewing, aliens, new order, subcutaneous chip implants and there are still people who takes the word of God in the name of global domination? The time we are living now has been written and thought a long time ago to be what it is today and was passed down through generations and we are running this task perfectly: "Obey and do not ask questions.. and if you have doubts - pray. and ask forgiveness for having doubts on your path .O dogma should never be questioned or you'll burn in hell forever. "Comfortable to live , isn't it?
On the one hand we have evidence of ancient astronauts in their visits spread throughout the world and through the ages . We also have devices technologically advanced nowadays but that existed hundreds of years ago and literally should not be there in that time . And if what was written in the books was a way to prepare us for something that already happened ?
Prophecy is for me one of the ways to define the time travel. Eureka is a good way to say "ok, I received the message." or "Do not think about heresies or profane things" could be: "careful, if they convey some thoughts for you, you can also be heard by them."
With all the facts that we have now and with the knowledge that we have about the future of humanity, what better way to get the word out to the masses in a consistent, durable and threatening manner?
We can create a cult and make a book. ... or rewrite a good one that already exists. :heh:
There are many many things, but if you have a good "base", all you need to know is right here in the forum but this does not exempt the reading of other things.
You must stay awake and with eyes wide open. Ask, argues, open your mind to accept the things. even the bizarre ones. Doubt and research always made a nice couple.

My two cents

Sorry if my opinion was too extensive.

Cheers 4 all

[Rocky_Shorz]

Even as "formal" christian I've always found the "holy" Bible to be mostly off-putting... Who wrote it? Man did. The God of the old testament is indeed an insane jealous being... Also the whole book is indeed full of allegories, you just can't read it literally. I mostly like what Jesus teached and that was unconditional love and that “The kingdom of God is within you” here and now... And note that he spoke in parables. But of course they tried to own him and his teachings and make him into some kind of a messiah. I don't actually even really buy the idea that he died on the cross and he certainly didn't die for our sins, even as an idea that is ridiculous.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Have you noticed how they have recently promoted the upcoming Noah movie almost everywhere? If only people would understand the real meaning behind that story, well actually quite a few people here do. Also later this year Ridley Scott will release his version of the Exodus. I smell another Hollywood agenda at play.

We really should make a movie showing what happened after Noah loaded the animals on the boat, civilizations were being loaded into Cradles to ride out the disasters...

God chose Noah as a zoo keeper, and the 12 tribes that started from the 4 humans that walked off the ship... well we all understand why those lines are a little messed up...

in time the space ships returned with earths population to once again start building civilizations after being gone for a few generations of ET training...


chuckles and ducks the flying shoes...

[ghostrider]

What better way to control people than to use religion , and say your doing it for your god ... hey allah said go blow yourself up and take as many infidels as you can with you ... Christians will say , if you not on god's side , your against him , your of the devil ... So it's clear that , earth's future will be played out according to one of two books , the Koran , and or the bible ... after all the agenda , as we are told is to get to paradise when we leave this world ...

Hey now! I'm not trying to argue with you, but consider this:
The human cycle of colonization is driven in part by the "bad religion" you mentioned.
I.e. when the religion becomes corrupted, that is obvious to enough people that they pack up and leave.
The Puritans took it way too far.
But the Rhode Island colony, for example, they were pretty darned open-minded.
They founded the colony because of religious persecution in AMERICA.
Not in Britain. It was the Massachusetts/Connecticut/New Haven crowd that drove R.I. people away to the island in the first place.

What my therapist said once about religion seemed like a cop-out, but he said "We are responsible for what we take away from religion",
i.e. what we choose to keep, observe, respect, is up to ourselves. Because we have the ability to pack up and leave.

The strongest statement against organized religion, aside from confronting it like Martin Luther did, is simply leaving.

Why do you think I talk about other planets all the time? LOL
:)

those driven by the lust for power and control , use religion , and the hearts of people who are honest about their search for something higher , or meaning in the life ... I don't mean to single out one faith or the other , for they all have their good and bad , it's just the concept of giving your power away , and all the humans slaughtered by religious armies who did it thinking they were serving their god and his will ... it's all good , speak your mind , truth expressed is paramount ...

[T Smith]

Frankly, I filter all the information in the Bible, as well as other ancient-to-present-day philosophical writings, and much of everything in the universe of information, though an Inner Knowing. Much of this information passes the test per That Which Is; much gets filtered out (i.e., That Which Isn't).

The information itself is secondary; it merely assigns symbols, language, and communicative tools unto that which I already know.

We all have this ability. This is an innate quality of being human. Our live experiences merely hone this knowing.