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Hervé
25th March 2014, 18:25
Germany – UFO caught on three different cameras over Achalm castle
(http://www.utaot.com/2014/03/24/germany-ufo-caught-on-three-different-cameras-over-achalm-castle/)
Posted on 24 March, 2014 (http://www.utaot.com/2014/03/24/germany-ufo-caught-on-three-different-cameras-over-achalm-castle/) by admin (http://www.utaot.com/author/admin/)


An interesting UFO case started from a video posted to YouTube that [was] made notable because of the unusual fact that three different people, from various angles, recorded the same sighting over the ancient ruins of Achalm castle in Germany.

The unidentified flying object captured on tape looks enormous as it spins like a top. A closeup of the object doesn’t reveal much identifiable detail, except to say that it’s definitely not any known aircraft.


http://www.utaot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/UFO-UFOs-sighting-sightings-castle-Germany-Reutlingen-August-2012-Achalm-W56-Akrij-CTR-alien-aliens-orb-orbs-astrobiologyScreen-Shot-2012-08-23-at-9.18.45-AM.png (http://www.utaot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/UFO-UFOs-sighting-sightings-castle-Germany-Reutlingen-August-2012-Achalm-W56-Akrij-CTR-alien-aliens-orb-orbs-astrobiologyScreen-Shot-2012-08-23-at-9.18.45-AM.png)


The separate videos were posted individually between Saturday, August 18, and Monday, August 20. The compilation video, posted by HaunebuTechnology hit the web late Monday night. The three separate images were also compiled together on the same screenshot, lending lots of credence to the conclusion none of them were faked.

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Comments on the videos are in German, but the voices of the witnesses are all different. The quality of the first UFO sighting video is the best, but the other two are just as compelling. What is this thing?

NneWmuJaEcs

The object is very large and it seems to swing on an axis. At the end of the third video clip, the UFO suddenly flies off at tremendous speed. Nothing man-made is known to be able to fly at that speed.

_ksNLCuJRCc

avid
25th March 2014, 18:34
nothing 'man-made' as we know it...?

Synchronicity
25th March 2014, 18:43
I would want to know if this is the only time that was seen, why the people were aiming cameras there to know it wasn't set up, and results from an examination of the footage to see if it was suspended over that area and more information. I do believe there are legit visitors and that they have been here for a very long time, so I'm not saying it isn't really something ET. I just have to have those answers before I can decide if it's human-related or something else. That is interesting :)

McMaster
25th March 2014, 18:45
Nice! Wonder why it has taken so long to make it over here (videos)? :/
looks legit, but never know.

Eram
25th March 2014, 18:46
Very exciting Amzer Zo.

The third youtube seems to be a shot from a stationary camera.
It would be nice to know why that camera was filming there.
If it is some sort of security camera that is always ON, it would ad to the reliability the story.

It would be nice to know if there are independent eye witness accounts as well.

Hervé
25th March 2014, 18:52
Here is a compilation video:


oEzZa8RENVY


The videos are from last year and posted around August 18, 2012.

No known accompanying reports to date.

Camilo
25th March 2014, 18:54
Good video, not shaky and blurry like most ufo videos, but to far away to really tell.

Cidersomerset
25th March 2014, 19:00
It looks good,,,,,,


http://activite-paranormale.net/extended/photo/news/achalm-castle-ufo-24-august-2012.png


http://activite-paranormale.net/news/read/907/Plusieurs%20t%C3%A9moins%20filment%20un%20%C3%A9norme%20OVNI%20en%20Allemagne

MorningFox
25th March 2014, 19:03
Excellent. Thanks for sharing. Love the way it disappears into hyperspace...

Cidersomerset
25th March 2014, 19:07
This seems to be an extended version.....


oEzZa8RENVY

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Published on 21 Aug 2012


This is my update video of http://youtu.be/oEzZa8RENVY.
UFO hovers over the mountain Achalm (castle) in Reutlingen,
Germany on August 18, 2012. Amazing sighting!


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Here s the u/tube site with other UFO vids on it, I think we need
the CGI detectives.....It looks good to me but I'm not an expert
on CGI techniques and its been around for a while by the looks
of it.

HaunebuTechnology

http://www.youtube.com/user/HaunebuTechnology

Lifebringer
25th March 2014, 19:15
Sometimes there are new people here, and some of the videos that we've seen, are put out there for them to also see and decide as yourself upon the sighting.

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Is that one of the places Hitler had his scientist with the tunnels they blew the entrances to, at the base of the mountain? I wonder if that "Bell" contraption was finished there.

Just asking.

Milneman
25th March 2014, 19:31
Sooo...et's are modeling their craft on existing RC models?


http://www.playmakertoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/78084.jpg

http://img.eforchina.com/upload/store/detail_l/S-CHT-1066_3.jpg

Looks a *lot* like other videos that have popped up here. A little editing can wipe the image from the screen after a fast zip to make it "disappear". There are peeps here with the skills to identify the markers for that...why not ask them?

After watching the video? I think it's a fake.

Hervé
25th March 2014, 19:36
[...]

After watching the video? I think it's a fake.

Any evidence/data backing up your "think"?

Billy
25th March 2014, 20:05
I remember watching this in 2012 and wondering why there was no zooming in on the craft as it appears to not be so far away. 3 separate video camera's and not one zoomed in at Day time. Hmmm. Otherwise good footage.


This guy manages to Zoom in this excellent night footage.

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Atlas
25th March 2014, 22:05
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After watching the video? I think it's a fake.

Any evidence/data backing up your "think"?

Here you go:

3rd video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ksNLCuJRCc) is uploaded by Audiocolorworld.com video agency. The video description says:


"xxxdonutzxxx - latest UFO sightings" has finished the project on YouTube. Audio Color World own all distribution rights of the uploaded videos on our YouTube channel. If you like to use videos for uploads or commercial use please contact "info@audiocolorwo­rld.com".

In the comments section, the uploader, xxxdonutzxxx, adds:


We have not filmed these UFO's. People send us these videos from around the world.

2nd video uploader's 'liked videos' are mainly from the same agency.
1st video uploader's 'liked videos' are also from the same agency.

This video agency also have dragons flying over England:

EnLZbuhor4I
and some very exotic spacecrafts like this UFO over Virginia:

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Quoting RMorgan from another thread:


Hey Mojo,

Yeah...It's fake. Just read the video's description:

"Video Agency of Audio Color World own all distribution rights of the uploaded videos on our YouTube channel. If you like to use videos for uploads or commercial use please contact "info@videoagency.audiocolorwo­rld.com".

It's from a video agency...

Type "Video Agency of Audio Color World" on google...You'll see a lot of similar videos produced by them.

Cheers,

Raf.

See my post about this video agency here: projectavalon.net/UFO-spotted-over-Ukraine--video-&p=807197 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69257-UFO-spotted-over-Ukraine--video-&p=807197&viewfull=1#post807197)

Here is a quote from someone who lives there:


let me share what I wrote on Facebook about those "UFO" videos when they came out:

my initial post:

well funny the place is maybe 1 - 2 kilometers away from where I live! in fact I can see the tower on the mountain wich is called "Achalm" right now when I look to the right. what you see under the "UFO" is a flag on the tower wich is on the Top of the moutain. so having said that; when I look at the movement of the "UFO" and the way the guy speaks (I understand what he is saying) then I am pretty convinced that it is a hoax. I noticed that there is a second video from another angle but the way this woman speaks is also odd to me. so what I am suggesting is that it is a deliberate hoax from at least two people who know eachother. I guess I could investigate this by myself because it is so darn near to my home....

comment from me in the comments section:

what I find even more interesting than this supposed UFO is that there are at least 4 different angles when you search on youtube. I have the feeling that this is a hoax made by several people in and arround my village and the city near by.
so the question is then, If it is a hoax then why did those guys do it and do they have an Agenda or is it just for fun? that question is even more interseting to me. especially because it is so near to where I'm living. quite an effort from those guys if it is a hoax

in short I think it is a diliberate hoax from guys who know what they are doing.
By the way I have not heared anyone in my villiga talking about this "sighting" since then (but I've to confess that I don't have that much contact with ordinary people here so this might need to be taken with a grain of salt)

maybe they are/were paid from whomever to do it? I think there is a possibility that a given precentage of those UFO hoaxers are paid for it to increase the noise.
(source (https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=29049.0))

This may not be convincing enough for UFO believers but it's enough for me. I call it a hoax.

By the way, do you people really think that real UFOs have this kind of shape, seriously? Come on...

Atlas
25th March 2014, 22:18
This guy manages to Zoom in this excellent night footage.


There is already a thread started by mojo here:

projectavalon.net/Pyramid-UFO-Australia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69628-Pyramid-UFO-Australia)

sirdipswitch
25th March 2014, 22:42
Sightings like this always make me wonder why nobody at the site got a picture of it??? Is this a tourist site? Are there people there durring the day? None of those tourists have a camera??

Atlas
25th March 2014, 22:45
Here is AboveTopSecret's take on this German UFO:


We do not allow that channel or any affiliation to be posted here per Admin.
All videos of theirs will be removed and threads closed, trashed or moved to hoax.

Closed.

ETA. I strongly suggest if anyone sees any videos associated with these hoaxers, ignore it and dont post it...it will be removed. Or if it is posted (because not everyone will see this note and know our policy on them), please alert staff.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread873641/pg1#pid14814543

DeDukshyn
25th March 2014, 22:45
This is a convincing video, but in addition to Buares findings on the source, there are some tell tale signs in the video that I will share - one of the things I look for ...

Pay very close attention to the "camera movement" -- on the first half of the video, where we expect natural hand movement / shakiness, we can see pretty much an artificial diamond shape movement in a clockwise rotation -- it is a fairly "calculated" looking pattern. Then look past the point where it zooms in -- and you will notice the exact same pattern, but particularly the scale of the camera movement / shakiness does not change after the video is zoomed in - I also noticed a break in the video between the two.

The fact that there is no "scaling" between camera movement between zoomed in and out is suspect -- so is the speed of the movement -- while zoomed in the speed of any camera movement will be multiplied by the level of zoom -- this is just not the case in this video, which tells me the "camera movement / shake" is artificial, in fact it looks exactly like only 4 or 5 key frames every 5-10 seconds or so were used to position the image inside the editor, along with a little "shake" effect applied in something After Effects. At the end of the day, if this were my video, this is something I would have noticed and tried to correct. To me it's a glaring give-away.

That said, the only reason to "fake" camera movement / shake might be to try make a video look more authentic, but in this case I think it was its downfall for me. No need to add fake elements to real footage to make it appear more "real".

So while it looks well done, I have to also conclude not convincing enough for me. The camera movement looks exactly like it was created using key frames within something like AE or Premier Pro.

My 2 cents.

My initial reaction was "tethered ballon" -- which would explain if there was more than one video -- easy to do with a "real" object.

Tyy1907
25th March 2014, 22:58
As far as the shape of the ufos in the three videos, who are we to say that a ufo wouldn't have that shape? I mean who are we in the galactic scheme of things? Space travel wise we aren't even in preschool yet.

Hervé
25th March 2014, 23:00
That was the best candidate I'd ran into so far... too bad... even though it's with four independent views of the same object, it's still a hoax... (sigh)

All I can say at this point is that these CGI guys are doing a fine job of discrediting genuine UFO witnesses...

Atlas
25th March 2014, 23:11
As far as the shape of the ufos in the three videos, who are we to say that a ufo wouldn't have that shape? I mean who are we in the galactic scheme of things? If the universe was like a school, we wouldn't be in preschool yet.

That's fine.


That was the best candidate I'd ran into so far... too bad... even though it's with four independent views of the same object, it's still a hoax... (sigh)

All I can say at this point is that these CGI guys are doing a fine job of discrediting genuine UFO witnesses...

A poster on another forum, epo333 (http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?831-California-type-drone-seen-in-germany&p=13832&viewfull=1#post13832), thinks it's a plot quoting an article from Veterans Today:

Baron Baretzky calls for probe investigation into fraudulent UFO videos on Internet (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/25/baron-baretzky-calls-for-probe-investigation-into-fraudulent-ufo-videos-on-internet/)

Ricardo Baretzky, a global security threat analyst called for a probe investigation into fake “”UFO”” videos posted on internet by using a syndicate ring in South Korea and Germany that is profiting from the internet freedom by abusing the rights of the consumers by feeding them false publications and information. [...]

Tyy1907
25th March 2014, 23:39
Just as there are fake videos put out and debunked, whats stopping authentic videos from being attacked and discredited? There are people whose jobs it is to discredit and attack by using social medias, etc. At the end of the day a person has to think for themselves and decide.

The Castellan
25th March 2014, 23:42
By the way, do you people really think that real UFOs have this kind of shape, seriously? Come on...


How's a UFO SUPPOSED to look, then, hmmmmmm?:rolleyes:

Tyy1907
25th March 2014, 23:48
By the way, do you people really think that real UFOs have this kind of shape, seriously? Come on...


How's a UFO SUPPOSED to look, then, hmmmmmm?:rolleyes:

My point exactly.

Atlas
26th March 2014, 00:21
Right, I can't say how a UFO is supposed to look. Discs and triangles may be too much simple shapes but I find the shape of the German UFO too complex.

The Castellan
26th March 2014, 00:36
Right, I can't say how a UFO is supposed to look. Discs and triangles may be too much simple shapes but I find the shape of the German UFO too complex.

Here's the thing when dealing with anything alien.....expect the unexpected. Who knows what's inside that thing, the shape might be needed for the propulsion system of the ship, since it zipped off lickity split. It might be some anti gravity devices in there, could be various living quarters, could be anything. Smeg, it could just be an aesthetic preference.

When an alien race can create amazing vessels that can move that fast, they sure as can make it look however the f*ck they want it to look.

ghostrider
26th March 2014, 02:29
ET can make their ships invisible in the blink of an eye , or visible only to line of sight , or make them glow blue or golden or pure white , or even affect your perception of what the ship looks like , some are 8,000 years ahead of us , the impossible for us is possible for them ... an open mind is all that is required ... I think your going to see more and more as the days go by , our greatest time of tribulation, disasters , and madness is here now , right out of the book of revelations , the four headed beast , hail stones falling from the sky , mass animal deaths , it's the greatest show on earth ... I carry a pic of a beamship hovering over a bus as my wallpaper on my phone , clear daytime photo from 1975 ... the reason for the guys inside coming to earth is what I'm all about , the ships are just a tool ...

The Castellan
26th March 2014, 04:01
ET can make their ships invisible in the blink of an eye , or visible only to line of sight , or make them glow blue or golden or pure white , or even affect your perception of what the ship looks like , some are 8,000 years ahead of us , the impossible for us is possible for them ... an open mind is all that is required ... I think your going to see more and more as the days go by , our greatest time of tribulation, disasters , and madness is here now , right out of the book of revelations , the four headed beast , hail stones falling from the sky , mass animal deaths , it's the greatest show on earth ... I carry a pic of a beamship hovering over a bus as my wallpaper on my phone , clear daytime photo from 1975 ... the reason for the guys inside coming to earth is what I'm all about , the ships are just a tool ...

Care to show us that picture, please? :)


Personally, all that apocalypse stuff in Revelations is a bit over dramatic.... 'apocalypse', the true meaning of the word is the OPPOSITE of what most people THINK it means. Joe Public will think fire, brimstone, zombies roaming the countryside, demons and angels clashing.....the real meaning of the world means to enlighten, the unveil long held secrets.


I want 'em to come over to my house.

DeDukshyn
26th March 2014, 15:48
For anyone still thinking this is a real UFO (I had to go back and check for more hoax evidence ;), the evidence is in the attached enhanced still of one of the videos. (click a couple times to get big version)

The camera used had a built in sharpening filter -- common on most cameras these days, and often you can't turn it off unless you have a high end camera and need to take "flat" pictures or video. What a sharpening filter does is it offsets the opposite pixel colours on edges to enhance the look of the edge. In most photo / video when analyzed you will see this as a halo effect around your edges when viewed very close up. We can see this effect very clearly in the video with the zoomed in overlay. The halo is quite large, and the camera would apply it evenly to all pixels so there is no scaling of this effect - it should be the same thickness for all edges in the scene.

Notice the UFO in the picture -- no halo at edges. Period. this means the camera did not record that part of the image, if it had, we would see the exact same size halo around its edges, which we very clearly do not see here. The only explanaition is overlay of another image without paying attention to what filters the camera that was recording, was using ;)

Maybe I shouldn't be giving these tips away ;)


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MorningFox
26th March 2014, 16:18
What on earth do morons gain from faking this kind of stuff... ?

Tedious.

Hervé
26th March 2014, 16:41
What on earth do morons gain from faking this kind of stuff... ?

Tedious.

My guess is that it's a publicity stunt so they could be hired for the next 3D, Sci-Fi James Cameron film or some "Alien/Predator" type movies... maybe?... besides hits on their Gootube page.


[...]

In the comments section, the uploader, xxxdonutzxxx, adds:


We have not filmed these UFO's. People send us these videos from around the world.

2nd video uploader's 'liked videos' are mainly from the same agency.
1st video uploader's 'liked videos' are also from the same agency.

This video agency also have dragons flying over England:

[...]


Hey Mojo,

Yeah...It's fake. Just read the video's description:

"Video Agency of Audio Color World own all distribution rights of the uploaded videos on our YouTube channel. If you like to use videos for uploads or commercial use please contact "info@videoagency.audiocolorwo­rld.com".

It's from a video agency...

Type "Video Agency of Audio Color World" on google...You'll see a lot of similar videos produced by them.

Cheers,

Raf.

See my post about this video agency here: projectavalon.net/UFO-spotted-over-Ukraine--video-&p=807197 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69257-UFO-spotted-over-Ukraine--video-&p=807197&viewfull=1#post807197)

[...]

McMaster
26th March 2014, 18:24
For anyone still thinking this is a real UFO (I had to go back and check for more hoax evidence ;), the evidence is in the attached enhanced still of one of the videos. (click a couple times to get big version)

The camera used had a built in sharpening filter -- common on most cameras these days, and often you can't turn it off unless you have a high end camera and need to take "flat" pictures or video. What a sharpening filter does is it offsets the opposite pixel colours on edges to enhance the look of the edge. In most photo / video when analyzed you will see this as a halo effect around your edges when viewed very close up. We can see this effect very clearly in the video with the zoomed in overlay. The halo is quite large, and the camera would apply it evenly to all pixels so there is no scaling of this effect - it should be the same thickness for all edges in the scene.

Notice the UFO in the picture -- no halo at edges. Period. this means the camera did not record that part of the image, if it had, we would see the exact same size halo around its edges, which we very clearly do not see here. The only explanaition is overlay of another image without paying attention to what filters the camera that was recording, was using ;)

Maybe I shouldn't be giving these tips away ;)



Thanks for that! Good we have people like you here so we don't have to argue what's fake and what's not. :p

The Castellan
26th March 2014, 18:58
What on earth do morons gain from faking this kind of stuff... ?

Tedious.MAking Ufologists look bad....Project Bluebook's all about it.

Anyone else but me want to find who did this and MASH HIS BALLS FLAT WITH A WOODEN HAMMER?

Andrew
26th March 2014, 19:15
To me that video was an obvious fake, if you go through alot of the footage on youtube you start to spot fakes easily.

On the other hand if you want an in your face UFO video this one is just woah!! I know it's been discussed before on this forum, but the conclusion it was part of a movie set is rubbish! imo, and clearly setup to discredit this video. Really look at the detail ie the disk shaped object drop three other objects that fly out in different directions also the disk tilts to dive down into the sea, I just don't think fakers are that creative :)

Here is three videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frcxt07J1fI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTpY0rvoOV0

This is the fail debunking film set video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AttS1VSMEp0

Honestly I or you could never be 100% sure it's real, but that debunking video is bunk :)

DeDukshyn
26th March 2014, 22:30
I saw this one a few years ago ... (previous post)

First thing I noticed in the video above ... fighter planes can't turn around that fast ... not even close. Is it a different set of fighters? Possibly, but it looks like the video was created to show fighter craft flying by, turning around and flying back, which is not physically possibly within the timeframe allowed.

The shadow of the object before it hits the water is way too big and dark - it wouldn't be visible at that angle and distance, and to boot it is in the wrong spot -- look at where the sun is coming from in the scene - about 45 degrees off to the right - yet the UFO's shadow appears directly under it as it approaches the water - if the sun were casting that shadow - it would appear to the left of the UFO the same number of degrees the sun is to the right.

My 2 cents -- I don't think this one is real either, but I do recall my own excitement after initially seeing this one, but when I really analyze hard, I think there are just too many of these little discrepancies for me to call it legit.
Based on the hi res slo-mo clip. The splash looks wrong as well to me, without any frame grabs or anything, but if prodded hard I will take a look at that as well. ;)

Not sure about the "debunking" video -- that was a bit weird ...

Andrew
26th March 2014, 23:49
I saw this one a few years ago ... (previous post)

First thing I noticed in the video above ... fighter planes can't turn around that fast ... not even close. Is it a different set of fighters? Possibly, but it looks like the video was created to show fighter craft flying by, turning around and flying back, which is not physically possibly within the timeframe allowed.

The shadow of the object before it hits the water is way too big and dark - it wouldn't be visible at that angle and distance, and to boot it is in the wrong spot -- look at where the sun is coming from in the scene - about 45 degrees off to the right - yet the UFO's shadow appears directly under it as it approaches the water - if the sun were casting that shadow - it would appear to the left of the UFO the same number of degrees the sun is to the right.

My 2 cents -- I don't think this one is real either, but I do recall my own excitement after initially seeing this one, but when I really analyze hard, I think there are just too many of these little discrepancies for me to call it legit.
Based on the hi res slo-mo clip. The splash looks wrong as well to me, without any frame grabs or anything, but if prodded hard I will take a look at that as well. ;)

Not sure about the "debunking" video -- that was a bit weird ...

Good points, I agree they seem to turn around fast.. but do look like they are half way around turning before the cam turns to the UFO (but yes, does seem rather fast), as for the shadow I think it's just the waves as you can see same sort of shadow to the left side of cam edge on slow-mo video (I cant honestly identify if it's a shadow or wave darkness).

jackovesk
27th March 2014, 00:12
Great find Amzer Zo...:thumb:

Proof that UFOs can jump through (Hyper Space Dimensions) and do so more often than not...:yes4:

We live in a (Multi-Dimensional Universe)...:yes4:

DeDukshyn
27th March 2014, 00:36
I saw this one a few years ago ... (previous post)

First thing I noticed in the video above ... fighter planes can't turn around that fast ... not even close. Is it a different set of fighters? Possibly, but it looks like the video was created to show fighter craft flying by, turning around and flying back, which is not physically possibly within the timeframe allowed.

The shadow of the object before it hits the water is way too big and dark - it wouldn't be visible at that angle and distance, and to boot it is in the wrong spot -- look at where the sun is coming from in the scene - about 45 degrees off to the right - yet the UFO's shadow appears directly under it as it approaches the water - if the sun were casting that shadow - it would appear to the left of the UFO the same number of degrees the sun is to the right.

My 2 cents -- I don't think this one is real either, but I do recall my own excitement after initially seeing this one, but when I really analyze hard, I think there are just too many of these little discrepancies for me to call it legit.
Based on the hi res slo-mo clip. The splash looks wrong as well to me, without any frame grabs or anything, but if prodded hard I will take a look at that as well. ;)

Not sure about the "debunking" video -- that was a bit weird ...

Good points, I agree they seem to turn around fast.. but do look like they are half way around turning before the cam turns to the UFO (but yes, does seem rather fast), as for the shadow I think it's just the waves as you can see same sort of shadow to the left side of cam edge on slow-mo video (I cant honestly identify if it's a shadow or wave darkness).

Jets can't turn at high speeds -- they just can't, or the pilot passes out or a wing rips off (Edit: I should add I have logged hundreds of hours on proper software flight simulators (mostly MS FS10 with expansion for fighter jets) - this is how it is obvious to me). It's either different jets (if the vid is real - which I am doubting) - or its not real. The darkness of the shadow bothers me much less then the fact that it is in the wrong place from left to right -- it should be farther to the left -- look where the sun is coming from - you can see the position of the specular (highlight) on the rails to judge that the sun is slightly behind them but mostly to the right - quite a lot. The shadow of the UFO then should merge into it from the left until intersection -- this does not occur.

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Great find Amzer Zo...:thumb:

Proof that UFOs can jump through (Hyper Space Dimensions) and do so more often than not...:yes4:

We live in a (Multi-Dimensional Universe)...:yes4:

While I don't necessarily doubt your second two statements (based on their existing) - the videos don't seem legit to some of us (also concluded by Amzer)- there's a few posts back there if you're interested in hearing why some of us came to that conclusion.

william r sanford72
27th March 2014, 15:46
Gives the impression of a key.to open somthing??a port key perhaps?
truth always.
William.

Andrew
27th March 2014, 16:28
Amzer zo what do you think about all the Sphere UFO's? like the ones in these examples.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swAW3XyYsZo&list=UU91JvYHo_gQTtD2VClD8EyA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moaz5jibyPk&list=LLe9OWB1JrJkvSw84YTHP0jA&index=99


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQZyDOfSDX8

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DeDukshyn do you think the Jets are CGI and that the helicopter and everything is a setup?

Hervé
27th March 2014, 16:45
Too many eye witnesses looking at those chasing each other at night...

I think this should be another thread... which you may want to start?

Atlas
27th March 2014, 16:50
Not sure about the "debunking" video -- that was a bit weird ...

It's not a debunking video, it's a 'making of'.

"EL GALLEGO UFO" seen by one of its directors: (translation from Spanish)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-22rqp-0EVwo/TkjuYUokl5I/AAAAAAAABaM/U5TDLr-odAI/s1600/Jaime+Fern%25C3%25A1ndez+Miranda++uno+de+los+dos+r ealizadores+que+fabrico+los+videos+de+los+ovnis.JP G


I have had the privilege of being one of the two directors of this fascinating audiovisual adventure with Gonzaga that you could see in the Making of. EL OVNI GALLEGO is a Spanish blockbuster for dissemination on the Internet, type video series, in which participated more than 100 people and has revolutionized internet globally in the world of the Ufologia and beyond. In fact, the videos take over 3,000,000 views in the first week.

This action has been commissioned by TERRA, devised by the Tribal / DDB Agency and produced by Pendelton Movies with original idea of ​​Javier Fesser.

[...]

In the area of ​​production is the most complicated of all video, as it involves travel to Galicia to all personnel involved in the story, also needed a boat, a boat support, a helicopter with black vinyl, and a lot of details that can not fail, because you look at sea port two hours and there is bound to be all right. A 10 for the production department, led by Clara Valley under the supervision of Luis Manso, Movie Producer Pendelton.

A priority was to keep the secret so that we were nervous about whether they saw boats beside the helicopter make many runs beside us and were interested in the matter.
For the filming we were fishing in the two filmmakers, Gonzaga Manso and myself. We took turns and we were doing one for every one more or less, depending on how we were. The point is that the first time we shot, we went to check out the piece in the camera itself and the boat swings did not coincide with the filming so the buzz was high.

I had to go overboard to vomit while Gonzaga was still filming. We did about 15 planes. What the helicopter allowed us gasoline. When choosing the sequence level that would go to ride, we were totally undecided between two of them, and we ended up deciding for the Gonzaga. Turned out to be a success.

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Excellent work and a perfect climax to this adventure that I was lucky to experience firsthand and never forget.
Thank you decided to tell me that.
Thanks to TERRA
Thanks to TRIBAL
Thanks to DDB
Thanks to Pendelton
And ye the 100 people who actively participated in the project.

Thanks also to all BLOGS, INTERNET USERS, conversationalists cafeteria and other people you have done this can spread like wildfire. If ye will at some point felt bad was not our intention. The idea was to have a fun time viewers with "0 Euros" and I think the vast majority we succeeded.

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And farewell, a small video art that I shot when we were filming the main video.
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http://elblogdejim-box.blogspot.com.au/2009/10/el-ovni-gallego-explicado-paso-paso-por.html

Here is the real deal:

http://vimeo.com/15175536

48 hours after our blog www.ojo-critico.blogspot.com give to know the outcome of the investigation, and advertising fraud lay behind all videos UFO in Galicia, the news portal TERRA recognized the deception, and their responsibility in it. Arguing that it was a tribute to the 71 anniversary of "The War of the Worlds" by Orson Wells.

Actually this is a viral advertising campaign to promote internet portal in its tenth anniversary. The truth is that TERRA contacted the advertising agency DDB, author of highly successful advertising campaigns, such as the special drawing summer ONCE in 2004, associated with the song of the summer, we all remember. DDB had the idea of ​​creating a viral campaign of fake UFO videos, and resorted to Pendelton Films, production company founded by Javier Fesser, to entrust the filming.

Jaime Fernández Miranda (Jim Box) and Luis Gonzaga Manso were the two filmmakers linked to Javier Fesser and Movies Pendelton, who were asked to perform both fake UFO videos that preceded the series of the Galician fishing, helicopter and capsules alien as these same.

http://ojo-critico.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/el-ovni-gallego-una-investigacion-que.html

Andrew
27th March 2014, 20:38
Too many eye witnesses looking at those chasing each other at night...

I think this should be another thread... which you may want to start?

It's ok I just wanted your thoughts on the Sphere type UFO's. You say to many eyewitnesses so they must be real? Is that what you meant?

buares
As for the diving UFO, why such low resolution, but such good HD of apparent film crew? (you could say to make it look like that) the making of seems to me like its meant to look like that to discredit the UFO video, it's not that I really care if it's real or not but those other videos apparently proving it's fake dont seem to match 100%.

There seems to be discrepancies. Something just doesn't seem right about the apparent making of.

Atlas
27th March 2014, 21:06
buares
As for the diving UFO, why such low resolution, but such good HD of apparent film crew? (you could say to make it look like that) the making of seems to me like its meant to look like that to discredit the UFO video, it's not that I really care if it's real or not but those other videos apparently proving it's fake dont seem to match 100%.

There seems to be discrepancies. Something just doesn't seem right about the apparent making of.

In any Youtube UFO video, you'll find comments saying "fake" or "real" or "not sure". In this case, TERRA admit everything.

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Watch the TERRA team admitting the hoax in the video below:


Revealing the secrets of 'Galician UFO' - The persons responsible for the campaign tell how the stories of the filming was forged.

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They say "we did it" and they show proof and you say no they didn't do it ? :loco:

DeDukshyn
27th March 2014, 22:21
Too many eye witnesses looking at those chasing each other at night...

I think this should be another thread... which you may want to start?

It's ok I just wanted your thoughts on the Sphere type UFO's. You say to many eyewitnesses so they must be real? Is that what you meant?

...

I have seen a sphere in real life with my own eyes - and it was a sphere in a secluded area (almost no residences - no streets roads or anything) where there was nothing I could have possible mistaken it for. I don't know what they are -- the one I saw was not very big - maybe 10-15 feet across?

Maybe it should have its own thread? :)

Andrew
28th March 2014, 00:05
buares dont you think they could create a side-show to cover it up if it was real..? because they could and ofcoarse we know they do. Just saying. The supposed evidence to prove its faked has discrepancies. They dont really show you much do they? And I cant seem to see the red landing bars on the chopper and there is another bit that red near top which cannot be seen on original, also the way they cut the original with showing actors and blend them in that short 52 second segment it just seems fishy :) I have always thought that about this bit of film. That is all.

I actually have a thread from awhile ago here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10774-UFO-and-Orbs-the-reality.) with some videos and alittle discussion (seems alot of the videos have been removed though).

Amzer also sorry if it comes across as rude talking about other UFO's other than the one you posted in your thread, will have to bare that in mind in the future.

Hervé
28th March 2014, 02:17
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Amzer also sorry if it comes across as rude talking about other UFO's other than the one you posted in your thread, will have to bare that in mind in the future.

Hi Andrew, no offense taken,

Since you have good points and back up data, it would be better to start a thread on these orbs and other materials rather than having them burried in this one which covers another deception as it turned out. :(

DeDukshyn
28th March 2014, 02:44
Agreed. I wonder if I have an "sphere" experience that I don't really talk about much if others do as well ... ? A thread on the topic might have surprises -- you never know :)