Plans for the Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) were released today (March 25, 2014)

[peaceviddie]

I haven't seen much chatter in the forum about the Quantum Energy Generator QEG but for those who have been following, the plans to build one were released today; here's the link...

http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

Ralph Ring seems to have faith in this project...I hope he's right.

Cheers

[ghostrider]

Ralph is a pretty smart guy , I like him ... all the free energy info is out , it's up to us to build it and apply it , and then it's time to make an out of business sign for the energy companies ... wait till they discover we can safely use geo thermal energy from the earth's core and it is virtually inexhaustible ...

[peaceviddie]

Ralph is a pretty smart guy , I like him ... all the free energy info is out , it's up to us to build it and apply it , and then it's time to make an out of business sign for the energy companies ... wait till they discover we can safely use geo thermal energy from the earth's core and it is virtually inexhaustible ...

The developers of the QEG plan on helping local manufacturers set up shop to produce these units (with apparently manufacturers in 30 countries eager to jump on board). They are strongly encouraging average Joe's not to try building one of these at home (i.e., due to the risk of electrical shock and monetary loss from a failed project).

If free energy breaks the mainstream, the controllers will have lost their greatest weapon of enslavement (scarcity of resources stemming from the scarcity of their primary input...energy). It is for this reason that I am skeptical about anyone claiming to have a working device; I can't see how the controllers would let them get that far. On the other hand, the QEG project came like a thief in the night; despite very little publicity it was crowd funded and released in record time.

[Hughe]

Any device that creates and uses harmonic resonace of system will produce more output energy than input. This is remarkably simple principle that Nature shows to us but mainstream scientific community has ignored so far completely. Motor-generator that uses inertial impulse of mass in circular motion is authentic Free Energy device too, which I personally have in mind.

I like how they have been doing for the Free Energy generator - Open Source development model. I'll definitely buy a 500W QEG kit if it's under $1,000.

[peaceviddie]

Any device that creates and uses harmonic resonace of system will produce more output energy than input. This is remarkably simple principle that Nature shows to us but mainstream scientific community has ignored so far completely. Motor-generator that uses inertial impulse of mass in circular motion is authentic Free Energy device too, which I personally have in mind.

I like how they have been doing for the Free Energy generator - Open Source development model. I'll definitely buy a 500W QEG kit if it's under $1,000.

I think the prototype cost $7000 to build; that's pretty cheap for a prototype.

[BeeLove]

Hey all, first post here, been lurking for a month or so. Anyway, I've been following this blog for awhile and saw this posted today. I can't claim to know anything about how any of this works, but thought someone else might understand how it all breaks down.

Anyone want to let me know if this is as significant as I hope it is?

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2014/03/free-energy-revealed.html


We can confirm that the Fix the World Team has produced a working overunity device, called Quantum Energy Generator (QEG). Yes, it works:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d2SnQBB3lkQ/UzTU1m63QFI/AAAAAAAABrQ/Q3r-cQXqJmo/s1600/Prometheus.gif

You can read more about the QEG here:

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/qeg-open-sourced/

And download detailed plans how to create a working QEG unit here:

http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

It would be good that QEG open sourced manual goes viral and that as many QEG units are constructed independently as soon as possible. So if you want to have an overunity device, do not wait for mass production to bring it to you, start building your unit now:

http://fixtheworldproject.net/start-your-own-qeg-production-unit.html

Fix the World Team is searching for capable individuals or groups that can bring QEG units to the people worldwide on all scales, from small mechanical workshops to large production facilities. People with such capabilities can contact the Fix the World Team here:

http://fixtheworldproject.net/contact.html

You can also support the Fix the World Team by helping them bringing free energy to the word:

http://www.gofundme.com/HopeGirlFixtheworldQEG

The Light Forces have requested that as many Event Support Groups as possible begin constructing their own QEG units as soon as possible. These Event Support Groups will then serve as transformation nodes that will help the planetary transition into the new overunity society.

QEG is not the only overunity device that will be released. There are many more projects being prepared behind the scenes and production and distribution networks on all levels organized, from garage mechanical workshops to global enterprises. If you have large scale production or distribution capabilities, contact cobraresistance@gmail.com and we may include you in one of our projects.

Let there be Light!

[Rocky_Shorz]

a little of the details of the 10x over unity generator...


130 years ago Nikola Tesla invented and patented an energy generator. This is a resonance machine that only needs 1KW of input power to produce 10KW of output power. His patents are now in the public domain.

The Fix the World Organization has reproduced Teslas design with a few modern twists to generate the same results. Our Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) provides 10KW of power output for less than 1KW input, which it supplies to itself.

We have freely given this technology to the people of the world. We’ve open sourced a full set of instructions, user manual, schematics and parts list for any engineer to follow and reproduce the same results.

How the QEG works:
First we use a starting power source, such as an outlet or a crank to power the 1 horsepower motor. This motor spins the rotor in the generator core. The unique oscillator circuitry configuration in the generator core causes resonance to occur. Once the core achieves this resonance it can produce up to 10KW of power, which can then be run through an inverter to power the motor that spins the rotor. You can then unplug the motor from the original power source and the generator will power itself.

Cottage Industry Community Units specifically for the production of QEG’s are NOW developing in communities in 30+ countries. The People are making their own free energy devices.

The QEG belongs to humanity now. Many will make further improvements and we will all co-develop this practical bridge technology together.

The QEG: For the People and By the People...

[Daphne]

Thanks! I am reading the links BeeLove, I know nothing about this but hope to understand more and hear more from those who understand.

[Yetti]

Thanks Beelove ! and welcome to Avalon. Yes is very cool, I'm trying to replicate son the geet system for gas engines and save a lot of gas, or maybe use water instead... who knows, I think if we are here browsing this forum is because we are in the same brainwaves pretty much. So new energies systems are a common subject and I recommend to keep an eye in the LENR, ORME or ORMUS, the works of Stanley Mayers, Tesla, solar, wind and nanotech for beginning...
There is a good site to look at and is: peswiki just google it! you'll find all kind of stuff there! Live longer and prosper! Yetti

[GuyFox]

Val, The wife of inventor, James Robitai, says they have had device working since February.

It is not clear, if they mean that they first got it work then, or if it has been running continuously

[peaceviddie]

Here's the latest update from the HopeGirl Blog

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/qeg-post-open-source-important-update/

In a nutshell, there were 20,000 downloads of the manual within the first 24 hours of release and already key parts suppliers are getting overwhelmed with orders.

[Oouthere]

Well, I cannot find one replication that works. Good intentions does not mean there will be good results...

[Gerald Paris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1E17pAmsaI&list=UUNTZPquf2Cy4nDubkHiWZxw

[tgn333]

Well, I cannot find one replication that works. Good intentions does not mean there will be good results...

please play nice… if you can't say something nice …..

do you have hard evidence it does not work?

thank you.

[sigma6]

At least for the first time someone has finally broken the code, and realized that it has to be offered free to the world. Thank God someone finally figured it out!!!

Surely anyone who has a working system, for God's sake understand that your reward will still be almost without limit, whether you hand it over to the State (by registering the patent) or if you give it freely to the world (think about it...)

Just makes me laugh, so many could be so incredibly inventive to create and build over unity devices, only to lock themselves into the government controlled monetary system, like a monkey with its hand on the banana, that can't pull it out of the jar... Seriously... with free energy what do you need money for???? Think about it... You can create anything you put your mind to... you can grow food, heat and light your home, power your vehicle, power machinery. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN WEALTH.


Even after witnessing the last 100 years alone of not seeing a single success of anyone who ever registered an over unity device with a Government operated Patent Office (and thus transferred legal title to the Registrar as holder) You'd think the world would learn it's lesson. 6,000 plus suppressed patents... Finally we have pulled our collective heads out of our collective arse.... haah!

So to who ever built this and offered it to the world for free, Bless you! And someone's post above that saying, many more devices are going to come forward, would be enough to convince me that real change is coming to this world, and that maybe some of these supposed groups that insist they're in touch with "somebody" would be more believable. Isn't it cool that we are even talking about this? In this manner? Giving freely? I almost can't believe my ears (or eyes)! ': 0)

Just talking about it in this fashion is a quantum leap in conscious awareness in and of itself... WE WILL HAVE THE POWER TO UNDERCUT the power of the Biggest crime syndicates (Power Companies) simply by sharing FREE ENERGY. Giving life, taking back control, and dismantling crime syndicates... ALL BY SIMPLY SHARING AN UNLIMITED RESOURCE.

Isn't that the definition of heaven on earth manifest in the physical realm? Mercy me!

[superconsciousness]

Hope it works...

[Dennis Leahy]

At least for the first time someone has finally broken the code, and realized that it has to be offered free to the world. Thank God someone finally figured it out!!!

Surely anyone who has a working system, for God's sake understand that your reward will still be almost without limit, whether you hand it over to the State (by registering the patent) or if you give it freely to the world (think about it...)

Just makes me laugh, so many could be so incredibly inventive to create and build over unity devices, only to lock themselves into the government controlled monetary system, like a monkey with its hand on the banana, that can't pull it out of the jar... Seriously... with free energy what do you need money for???? Think about it... You can create anything you put your mind to... you can grow food, heat and light your home, power your vehicle, power machinery. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN WEALTH.


Even after witnessing the last 100 years alone of not seeing a single success of anyone who ever registered an over unity device with a Government operated Patent Office (and thus transferred legal title to the Registrar as holder) You'd think the world would learn it's lesson. 6,000 plus suppressed patents... Finally we have pulled our collective heads out of our collective arse.... haah!

So to who ever built this and offered it to the world for free, Bless you! And someone's post above that saying, many more devices are going to come forward, would be enough to convince me that real change is coming to this world, and that maybe some of these supposed groups that insist they're in touch with "somebody" would be more believable. Isn't it cool that we are even talking about this? In this manner? Giving freely? I almost can't believe my ears (or eyes)! ': 0)

Just talking about it in this fashion is a quantum leap in conscious awareness in and of itself... WE WILL HAVE THE POWER TO UNDERCUT the power of the Biggest crime syndicates (Power Companies) simply by sharing FREE ENERGY. Giving life, taking back control, and dismantling crime syndicates... ALL BY SIMPLY SHARING AN UNLIMITED RESOURCE.

Isn't that the definition of heaven on earth manifest in the physical realm? Mercy me!
Can I just copy your whole post? I can't find a thing I don't enthusiastically agree with, and a partial quote won't do it justice.

Thanks!

Dennis

[Dennis Leahy]

Hope it works...

Actually, even if it doesn't work, this is still a breakthrough - an emotional/spiritual/physical/logical breakthrough.

It IS logical to put the technology out freely, and finally break the ME ME ME MINE hording greed-based mentality that is all we have seen up to this point. Even if someone spent a million of their own dollars and thousands of their own hours, how much RICHER could you possibly be than if you made yourself and all of humanity (and all other life forms) abundant? Patent - shmatent! Patents are for the world of scarcity - the old paradigm.

Dennis

[sigma6]

$7000 ???? to build what was shown in the pdf???? I hope not... that will be an impediment for a lot of people...


Is there any more information besides the pdf how to?

[peaceviddie]

For anyone reading this, even if you are skeptical about the claims made by the inventor, please download the plans, share them, and print a physical copy (it's only 35 pages). If you're technically minded or know technically minded people, take a chance to study/analyze the plans. I'm hoping that someone who knows a little bit about electrical engineering can start a Q & A thread about this design. I definitely have a few questions that I would like to ask.

[BeeLove]

I really wish I personally knew more engineers. There has to be a few of you out there on PA!

Dennis and Sigma, I'm just as overjoyed and ecstatic about what this means for humanity as well. Awesome time to be alive.

[13th Warrior]

If I could get the funding; I have the connections to make this device...but, first I need proof of concept.

Proof of concept would ideally be a scaled down version I could build at home for a couple hundred dollars...

[Oouthere]

Well, I cannot find one replication that works. Good intentions does not mean there will be good results...

please play nice… if you can't say something nice …..

do you have hard evidence it does not work?

thank you.

tgn, I get so tired after having replicated these free energy devices for a couple of decades now and NONE of them have worked. Literally millions of dollars in private funds and hundreds of thousands of hours in research is wasted by numerous altruistic people because of false claims. If no one has replicated this by now, this is probably another one.

So you tell me, do you want people to continue wasting valuable resources trying to replicate ideas that do not work, or find one that has truly been tested and divert resources to a potential outcome that will help the world? If people like me stay quiet, then the false/defected theories will continue to float out there.

[sigma6]

Hope it works...

Actually, even if it doesn't work, this is still a breakthrough - an emotional/spiritual/physical/logical breakthrough.

It IS logical to put the technology out freely, and finally break the ME ME ME MINE hording greed-based mentality that is all we have seen up to this point. Even if someone spent a million of their own dollars and thousands of their own hours, how much RICHER could you possibly be than if you made yourself and all of humanity (and all other life forms) abundant? Patent - shmatent! Patents are for the world of scarcity - the old paradigm.
Dennis

The whole concept of the patent is almost designed to play on your greed center, it funnels the very information you want to protect into the hands of the very people you want to keep it away from... there lies the "prison for your mind" what a beautiful device that is... costs' very little to create, once built it runs endlessly for centuries captures the minds of men like mice in a funnel trap...

And the the person who runs to the patent officer is his own jailer and supplies the energy to maintain it... you have to admit that is brilliant... And it operates on one universal premise we are all taught to deny. ... Greed.

We are supposed to overcome it, but lets face it, especially today... most of us, if not all (we all fall short...) just simply deny it...

There is much written that the whole "legal system" was designed with the understanding that human nature is "greedy" or "self serving" as part of it's whole mechanism of control...

That said... yes there is still the issue of it's credibility. My first reaction, was "animated gif?" that takes more effort then to just capture some video on a cam... and someone mentioned they haven't seen on working copy... what about those Brazilian Dudes that Fulford made mention to? They still want money (which I am not against, and I totally get the spiritual wealth aspect, absolutely, in this case it would just go hand in hand... your right Dennis, what higher principle.... Imagine being known as the man who released free energy to the world...

Then there is the issue of Keshe's and his free spaceship design... my cynical mind says a couple of things. One, in all that time, it doesn't look like Keshe worked with anyone to make a simplified plan that average people could look at and give to their neighbourhood geek buddy and say "Hey look at this, this guy named Keshe says it's "free energy" and anyone can build this..." It looks more like a cryptic puzzle of esoteric designs... And oddly no one is talking about it... not really considering... I hate to say it but there is something off putting about the whole thing. It's very egocentric in a way. Where are the people who are setting up shop on YouTube and running slide show presentations of how it works, or can we even at least build the power supply unit???

As much as I want to believe I just want to go up to Keshe and shake him and say, hey get with an interpreter for one thing, because your message is NOT coming across, and after all these years the only thing people have looked at or seen is a plastic coke bottle! Come on man, the world is f***ing dying and starving out there. Time to get off your butt, quit playing these word games and if it costs nothing more then a couple of nails and wire and a coke bottle, why aren't you travelling around and showing people how to make one!!!??? Someone is going to have to take the mantle as the giver of free energy who broke through the "mental" (psychological, spiritual, trap) and GAVE it to the world.
Is such a manner that the world could actually make one...


WTF are we waiting for Christmas? Christ's second coming? The Blue Cachina! LA to fall in the ocean, the Cabal to blow off a nuke? WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR ... !!!???

Then another thought is now occurring to me... Keshe (and I think he is legitimate, but still doesn't add up, like go make some gold and pay off you bills man!... you know... live a little...) anyway he comes out with the announcement he is fearing for his life and ONLY then is compelled to release some cryptic documents about a spaceship design, maybe there is something real in them, maybe there isn't, it's going to take someone with an understanding of physics (that isn't being taught anywhere to understand it... Oh... do you suppose this isn't an attempt to maybe sell more books??? And why do I get the feeling if you read those books you are going to be no farther along in your understanding... ??? See I am not discrediting Keshe here, I am pointing out though he is only human, and he didn't know how to ask for help, and he suffers from monkey-can't-let-go-of-the-banana syndrome in the ego department... And the world suffers...

Then at the same time Fulford releases a clip of these Brazilian dudes releasing some sort of free energy device...

Brazilian inventors bring free energy device to market
http://www.earth-heal.com/news/news/112-inventions/1472-brazil-free-energy-device.html

Now this actually sounds like the most realistic, because one they're Brazilian! haha! but I am saying, these are people just coming into material prosperity (by destroying their own eco system... oh well, no one's perfect....) And they are openly trying to sell it into the market (just greatly diminished their chances of success, will the US Government try to infiltrate or lean on the Brazilian Government with some BS that "free energy will destroy the world" (run Chicken Little run!!!!... ) argument and then threaten to "suicide" everyone for the benefit of all mankind...

Anyhow my point is these guys seem down to earth, like your neighbour next door type, and much more pragmatic... like "hey... I know, why don't we build these and sell them so people can have heat and electricity for their families!?

WOW... what a concept...!!! REVOLUTIONARY...!!!

So maybe someone should give them a separate post... (ok I will if no one doesn't, look for it in alternative or maybe (you know favourite and the most important category!!! CONSPIRACY Theory! :) Anyhow...

update: This is what Keshe COULD HAVE DONE 5 YEARS AGO!!!

Brazilian Inventors Bring Free Energy Device To Market
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69928-Brazilian-inventors-bring-free-energy-device-to-market&p=815728&viewfull=1#post815728


Then all of a sudden this post pops up... (that I am writing on right now (LOL)) like we got free energy coming out of our wazoos.. What gives... ? My first reaction is ONE, and MAYBE even more then one, is for real... and is someone trying to divert our attention away by burning our time and money... I mean you claim you are sharing a quantum generator, and like someone posted here, NOT ONE YOUTUBE?

update: I went to their website and I see a picture of a UFO at the top and I see they are selling T-SHIRTS... You know what that tells me... MARKETING HYPE and smelly BS angle... or else buddy if you just figured out how to make a free energy device don't go puttin a stinkin' t-shirt promotion and UFO pictures on your site...

OK, let's give this f'tard credit for providing us with good philosophical discussion (thankyou!! lol) and MOVE ON TO FULFORD's REFERENCE... AS IT SEEMS MUCH MORE LEGIT (for now...)

once again... Fulford's reference to Brazilian's invention:

Brazilian Inventors Bring Free Energy Device To Market
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69928-Brazilian-inventors-bring-free-energy-device-to-market&p=815728&viewfull=1#post815728

Sigh...

[peaceviddie]

$7000 ???? to build what was shown in the pdf???? I hope not... that will be an impediment for a lot of people...


Is there any more information besides the pdf how to?


The cost is 7000 now because parts are having to be custom made. The developers are trying to streamline the order process for cores by sending packet orders to the manufacturers on behalf of multiple buyers in order to help bring the cost down (e.g you will need to produce 500 cores according to these specifications for persons A, B, C etc. vs. each person making a request with plans that the developers has to input into the system). Once mass production of parts is implemented there would be a dramatic drop in prices; in light of this $7000 is really cheap for a prototype.

[peaceviddie]

$7000 ???? to build what was shown in the pdf???? I hope not... that will be an impediment for a lot of people...


Is there any more information besides the pdf how to?
Once mass production of parts is implemented there would be a dramatic drop in prices; in light of this $7000 is really cheap for a prototype.

To draw on my previous point, the lamination house is currently laser cutting 140 pieces of magnetic steel, stacking them by hand and TIG welding them together to make the stator; this process has to be repeated for the rotor. On a more industrial level the parts could be die cut rapidly rather than using lasers etc. etc.

[peaceviddie]

Then all of a sudden this post pops up... (that I am writing on right now (LOL)) like we got free energy coming out of our wazoos.. What gives... ? My first reaction is ONE, and MAYBE even more then one, is for real... and is someone trying to divert our attention away by burning our time and money... I mean you claim you are sharing a quantum generator, and like someone posted here, NOT ONE YOUTUBE?

update: I went to their website and I see a picture of a UFO at the top and I see they are selling T-SHIRTS... You know what that tells me... MARKETING HYPE and smelly BS angle... or else buddy if you just figured out how to make a free energy device don't go puttin a stinkin' t-shirt promotion and UFO pictures on your site...


http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com

There are not any t-shirts sales or UFO pictures on the QEG website as far as I'm aware of.

[Shane]

Having had the opportunity to talk with Ralph and get to know him (as well as a little "behind the scenes" on this topic) this is exciting news. We spend trillions of dollars learning to kill each other, so I think a $7000 prototype for energy is quite manageable.

[Ahnung-quay]

My son-in-law wants to build one this summer. I told him he can use my garage and that I would help fund it. This post gives me a lot of hope; something that has been sadly lacking in our world! It's time for humanity to rise up and get out of victim mode. It's time. Thanks BeeLove for sharing this!

[peaceviddie]

My son-in-law wants to build one this summer. I told him he can use my garage and that I would help fund it. This post gives me a lot of hope; something that has been sadly lacking in our world! It's time for humanity to rise up and get out of victim mode. It's time. Thanks BeeLove for sharing this!

If your son in law or anyone else with an engineering background can comment on how this thing might work that would be awesome. I have very limited electrical knowledge but this looks to me like a generator integrated within a tesla coil configuration (among other components, I believe a tesla coil uses a spiral wound exciter to excite a toroid coil; the QEG has a spiral wound exciter coil which I'm guessing is being used to excite a toroid coil generator).

[Ahnung-quay]

he has an electrical background. I'll have him look at the plans and make some comments. I should be seeing him later today.

[sigma6]

$7000 ???? to build what was shown in the pdf???? I hope not... that will be an impediment for a lot of people...
Is there any more information besides the pdf how to?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69815-FREE-ENERGY-Plans-for-the-Quantum-Energy-Generator--QEG--were-released-today&p=816025&viewfull=1#post816025

The cost is 7000 now because parts are having to be custom made. The developers are trying to streamline the order process for cores by sending packet orders to the manufacturers on behalf of multiple buyers in order to help bring the cost down (e.g you will need to produce 500 cores according to these specifications for persons A, B, C etc. vs. each person making a request with plans that the developers has to input into the system). Once mass production of parts is implemented there would be a dramatic drop in prices; in light of this $7000 is really cheap for a prototype.

Thanks Peaceviddie, that is the kind of concrete and practical info I appreciate... I would like to post on the Brazilian Post in Conspiracy... That means these could probably get down to a few hundred quite easily... and that would awesome, manufacturing these by the millions, and providing a trust to get these into 3rd world countries... I am still a big believer in getting people light, heat, and food... That is just a basic human dignity and should be a planetary pro-actively enforced law, of the highest directive.

If you want to build bombs and kill everybody you have to give them housing food and clothing, heat and electricity first...

[sigma6]

Then all of a sudden this post pops up... (that I am writing on right now (LOL)) like we got free energy coming out of our wazoos.. What gives... ? My first reaction is ONE, and MAYBE even more then one, is for real... and is someone trying to divert our attention away by burning our time and money... I mean you claim you are sharing a quantum generator, and like someone posted here, NOT ONE YOUTUBE?

update: I went to their website and I see a picture of a UFO at the top and I see they are selling T-SHIRTS... You know what that tells me... MARKETING HYPE and smelly BS angle... or else buddy if you just figured out how to make a free energy device don't go puttin a stinkin' t-shirt promotion and UFO pictures on your site...


http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com

There are not any t-shirts sales or UFO pictures on the QEG website as far as I'm aware of.

http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/2014/03/free-energy-revealed.html

But you and others have a point, this looks like it's only a blog, so I should adjust the context of my post, but what is going on? Where is this guy's site? And give us one example. ONE example of a working video. And she says at the end of one of her videos, that they WILL NOT BE PRESENTING a working model NOT EVEN by YOUTUBE... No you have to give money first, then they will supposedly send you more plans... NOT SO FREE...

Again, it's just like these people don't really get the fundamental principle of what would really happen if there really was a device that creates free energy with available plans... Tesla died penniless because he couldn't share his idea... but kept it tightly controlled in the hands of a few men. That is the greed principle working against him...

Conversely if he had kept all the shares in the plans with Westinghouse, yes, some might argue that he could have negotiated millions for himself... But would it really be that simple? Look what was at stake, people have "tripped and fallen off buildings" for less... And they we're doing plenty nasty things to him already. Do you think maybe there might have been more to the story? Was he threatened, intimidated?... he didn't seem like the stupid type to me... just saying maybe there was more to the story... Would Westinghouse just rollover and file bankruptcy like that? Does that even sound realistic?

Anyhow this story is not making itself amenable to clear interpretation, I despise ambiguity, and people who refuse to make their communication clear.

(it's free here are the plans... Nope it's not, and no videos until you make a paypal payment...) - NOT BUYING...

Whereas the Brazilian guys are straight up... this isn't rocket science... although there may be poor homeless guys who discovered how to make free energy and they need our help... they are of the same percentage as actual insurance victims with real whiplash... Good luck if you can sort it out and find either...

[Yetti]

Hello Sigma 6 , I think that the point here is presicely DO NOT PUT A PATENT ON IT , remember who are behind of the patent offices , and as you said ,not everyone would be able to produce their own unit at home, Because requires skills like machining, engineering , electrical, etcetera... So will put a lot of people actually jobless on a job by doing so, creating new jobs everywhere , and let jobless at those crocs on the power cartels. But this will be just the first step, there is more to come like fractal water, or as someone calls it energized water, ( see Masaru Emoto work on water) with the power to heal, just by drinking water, grow better fruits and vegies ,faster healthier, The sound as antigravity, superconductors at room temperature like the monoatomic gold. More and more people is going that direction , and all will bring us to a better world, beside the will of the dark side to smash us, They will NOT SUCCEED !!

[Ahnung-quay]

The son-in-law also has questions. His big question last night is how the magnets stay cool; how the machine doesn't burn out?
peaceviddie- he didn't comment on your question about the coils. He said he needed to do some research on coils.

[Nick Matkin]

I've just downloaded the manual and scanned through it. I'm ‘only’ an RF engineer (and can read a circuit diagram) so I do understand the concept of resonance which is claimed to be at the heart of this design.

My gut instinct is that this is at worst yet another scam or at best a well-intentioned team who have no-one on board who understand the relationship between volts, amps and watts. This is very unlikely as the text seems technically competent and plausible. I didn't see any obvious technical 'clangers', although when 'quantum' is used to explain the unexplainable, I'm a bits suspicious; any engineer will be familiar with the phrase "bull**** baffles brains"!

But I'll certainly suspend judgement - it deserves that.

However, the circuit diagram appears to be incomplete. "The output of the variac is connected to a 600 volt, 25 Amp full-wave bridge rectifier to power the variable speed DC drive motor. “ This isn't shown on the circuit diagram. Neither is the motor controller board.

Nor did I see any reference as to how the 400 Hz AC output (shown on the circuit) is changed to 60 Hz for 120 V output or 50 Hz for 240 V output as most domestic equipment will not like 400 Hz!

The current required to generate the stated 15 kW at 120 volts is 125 Amps!! I think a bit more clarity as to the kind of copper wire that won't burn out is certainly needed here!

If I were them, I think I would have gone to the trouble of making a video, with strategically placed meters showing various voltages and currents. That doesn't prove it's not a hoax, but I would illustrate what they are trying to do to the technically inclined.

How about a smaller version? Proof of concept so that people can spend just a few hundred dollars to see if it works? On the other hand, if it works, hey, $7,000 is a bargain for free energy for the rest of your life! Just borrow from the relatives if necessary. What are we waiting for...? (Hint; before you buy one, make sure you understand the relationship between volts, amps and watts. Just sayin’...)

And there's no need to bring up the Tesla Coil in any free energy discussion. It doesn't produce free energy or transmit energy wirelessly. It breaks no laws of physics. They are quite easy to make and are just open-ended resonant transformers. I've made one; there are plenty of genuine Youtube videos of them working and plenty of genuine plans. They’re great fun, demonstrate a number of concepts in AC theory, but of little practical use to the average person.

One thing about all this free energy stuff worries me; how come someone from generations of "to hell with the consequences" enthusiastic physics students across the world, haven’t done this already? Or are university campuses littered with buried bodies of the brave students that have done this and paid the price? There are more free energy plans out there than you can shake a stick at, and this one seems fairly straightforward. A university that’s the first to do this...? No one's going to kill an entire physics class - are they? And for the university - fame and fortune or what? I just don't get it...

Nick

[13th Warrior]

Looking at the provided schematic; the coils are wired in opposition (buck) fashion. Does this make sense to anyone?

[Nick Matkin]

@ 13th Warrior: I don’t see why not. The dots on the coils imply someone there understands about inductor phasing and how to correctly show it on a circuit diagram.

But having slept on it I have other concerns. The information as presented appears incomplete. This is OK when protecting commercial interests, but isn’t the whole point to get people to build it from the plans? Has anyone built one?

The whole device looks too simple to not have been done decades ago by anyone with a decent mechanical workshop and basic knowledge of electronics.

And another thing… (well spotted Ahnung-quay’s son-in-law!), unless the #10 AWG copper wire used to wind the two 350 turns coils is exhibiting hitherto unknown properties, anyone using Ohm’s law can work out the current this wire is carrying. i.e. for 10 kW at 240 volts it’s a ‘mere’ 41.7 amps. At 15 kW at 120 volts it’s 125 amps. Maximum current carrying capacity of #10 AWG wire is about 15 amps (http://www.keywolf.com/American_Wire_Gauge.php) (some tables show 30 amps, but this is uncoiled). Someone at QEG has some clarification to do.

The supplied data in the QEG manual is either wrong, at best incomplete or the whole project is yet another free energy scam. But if it demonstrably doesn’t work, why have they bothered, as they’ll soon be exposed as fakes? Weird...

Presumably there are other engineers lurking on this forum. Come on chaps (and chapesses), say something! What do you see here? Or have you decided that this stuff just isn’t worth bothering with? Well I don’t blame you…

Nick

[sigma6]

I've just downloaded the manual and scanned through it. I'm ‘only’ an RF engineer (and can read a circuit diagram) so I do understand the concept of resonance which is claimed to be at the heart of this design.

My gut instinct is that this is at worst yet another scam or at best a well-intentioned team who have no-one on board who understand the relationship between volts, amps and watts. This is very unlikely as the text seems technically competent and plausible. I didn't see any obvious technical 'clangers', although when 'quantum' is used to explain the unexplainable, I'm a bits suspicious; any engineer will be familiar with the phrase "bull**** baffles brains"!

But I'll certainly suspend judgement - it deserves that.

However, the circuit diagram appears to be incomplete. "The output of the variac is connected to a 600 volt, 25 Amp full-wave bridge rectifier to power the variable speed DC drive motor. “ This isn't shown on the circuit diagram. Neither is the motor controller board.

Nor did I see any reference as to how the 400 Hz AC output (shown on the circuit) is changed to 60 Hz for 120 V output or 50 Hz for 240 V output as most domestic equipment will not like 400 Hz!

The current required to generate the stated 15 kW at 120 volts is 125 Amps!! I think a bit more clarity as to the kind of copper wire that won't burn out is certainly needed here!

If I were them, I think I would have gone to the trouble of making a video, with strategically placed meters showing various voltages and currents. That doesn't prove it's not a hoax, but I would illustrate what they are trying to do to the technically inclined.

How about a smaller version? Proof of concept so that people can spend just a few hundred dollars to see if it works? On the other hand, if it works, hey, $7,000 is a bargain for free energy for the rest of your life! Just borrow from the relatives if necessary. What are we waiting for...? (Hint; before you buy one, make sure you understand the relationship between volts, amps and watts. Just sayin’...)

And there's no need to bring up the Tesla Coil in any free energy discussion. It doesn't produce free energy or transmit energy wirelessly. It breaks no laws of physics. They are quite easy to make and are just open-ended resonant transformers. I've made one; there are plenty of genuine Youtube videos of them working and plenty of genuine plans. They’re great fun, demonstrate a number of concepts in AC theory, but of little practical use to the average person.

One thing about all this free energy stuff worries me; how come someone from generations of "to hell with the consequences" enthusiastic physics students across the world, haven’t done this already? Or are university campuses littered with buried bodies of the brave students that have done this and paid the price? There are more free energy plans out there than you can shake a stick at, and this one seems fairly straightforward. A university that’s the first to do this...? No one's going to kill an entire physics class - are they? And for the university - fame and fortune or what? I just don't get it...

Nick

Best post... regarding the University, they have purposely set up the curriculum to make sure your learning takes you in 180 degrees the opposite direction. The people who have figured this out are geniuses... ie. the have intuitive insight, are self taught, and usually operate outside the university system.. I think Joseph Farrell talks about Maxwell equation that were removed from electrical education, because they pointed to evidence of over unity. Of course the excuse at the time was that they were "too complex" (too complex???)

I used to have a phrase that kept resounding in my brain when I went to University... "students, students everywhere, but not a mind to think..."

[aviators]

But having slept on it I have other concerns. The information as presented appears incomplete. This is OK when protecting commercial interests, but isn’t the whole point to get people to build it from the plans? Has anyone built one?

The whole device looks too simple to not have been done decades ago by anyone with a decent mechanical workshop and basic knowledge of electronics.

And another thing… (well spotted Ahnung-quay’s son-in-law!), unless the #10 AWG copper wire used to wind the two 350 turns coils is exhibiting hitherto unknown properties, anyone using Ohm’s law can work out the current this wire is carrying. i.e. for 10 kW at 240 volts it’s a ‘mere’ 41.7 amps. At 15 kW at 120 volts it’s 125 amps. Maximum current carrying capacity of #10 AWG wire is about 15 amps (http://www.keywolf.com/American_Wire_Gauge.php) (some tables show 30 amps, but this is uncoiled). Someone at QEG has some clarification to do.

The supplied data in the QEG manual is either wrong, at best incomplete or the whole project is yet another free energy scam. But if it demonstrably doesn’t work, why have they bothered, as they’ll soon be exposed as fakes? Weird...

Presumably there are other engineers lurking on this forum. Come on chaps (and chapesses), say something! What do you see here? Or have you decided that this stuff just isn’t worth bothering with? Well I don’t blame you…

Nick

Some really good points and agree wholeheartedly.
The schematic looks amateur. with no part #s
Perhaps the #10AWG wire could handle more volts. IE 1500volts X 10 amps =15KW
I would love to have this thing work as advertized.They want to give this away
right?
Why don't they have a technical Q&A forum? :wizard:

[Eligos]

Here is their forum: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/index

[aviators]

Here is their forum: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/index
OK, Well All Right! Thanks Eligos ....Bookmark this. This looks very new. Will have to come back to see how
the Q&A go? This could be promising.. Hope the owner is well rested for the questions that come pouring in.

Cheers to the QEG forum ! :cheers:


Edit: Also found this Q&A section.... http://be-do.com/index.php/en/frequently-asked-questions?catid=0

Edit: this also: Looks like Taiwan and China are taking this seriously.
Check out this video....http://be-do.com/index.php/en/update-qeg-team-taiwan

[Rocky_Shorz]

Looking at the provided schematic; the coils are wired in opposition (buck) fashion. Does this make sense to anyone?

everyone knows it needs to be turned the same as a toilet flushes depending on where you are in the world...

[13th Warrior]

Looking at the provided schematic; the coils are wired in opposition (buck) fashion. Does this make sense to anyone?

everyone knows it needs to be turned the same as a toilet flushes depending on where you are in the world...

Reading through the website Q&A's; someone asked what the inductance is of the primary. In the answer given; it's stated that the two coils are in series (this is not how it's shown in the schematic)...

[Eligos]

Obviously this whole project has been rushed out the door. There are errors in the schematic diagram, no third party validation of their prototype, no complete video of the device working.
Instead they decided to fly to Taiwan and start the teaching process immediately. Now we will all agree that this is not the NORMAL way to do this but in this case, perhaps this is the safest approach, i.e. not mysteriously found in a ditch somewhere or succumbing from food poisoning. Time will tell.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Looking at the provided schematic; the coils are wired in opposition (buck) fashion. Does this make sense to anyone?

everyone knows it needs to be turned the same as a toilet flushes depending on where you are in the world...

Reading through the website Q&A's; someone asked what the inductance is of the primary. In the answer given; it's stated that the two coils are in series (this is not how it's shown in the schematic)...

sorry, I got busy on the Chile quake and forgot to come back to say April fools...

I'm gathering pieces to try putting it together, anybody else doing the same? I have an electronics recycle center just a few miles up the road so should put it together for cheap...

[Nick Matkin]

[...] I have an electronics recycle center just a few miles up the road so should put it together for cheap...

Please keep us informed of your progress, all the ups and downs. If it works we need to know. If it doesn't we need to know why not.

Thanks.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I've created over unity with an electric circular saw and a wind PMA generator, so looking forward to trying this one...

[Strat]

I've created over unity with an electric circular saw and a wind PMA generator, so looking forward to trying this one...

Pics? I'm building a wind generator this month, maybe even buying the motor today.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I've created over unity with an electric circular saw and a wind PMA generator, so looking forward to trying this one...

Pics? I'm building a wind generator this month, maybe even buying the motor today.

I put a loop back to the saw's battery and charged up a bank of deep cycle batteries...

extremely noisy but proved the concept that more energy can be created than is used.

the investor was being threatened so had to pull back funding, but I at least saw it with my own eyes.

my goal was to create a magentic generator that replaces the circular saw.

float the shaft with magnetics to eliminate noise and drag...

had one made but the magnets were so strong it would wind down as soon as I slid it into the coils.

the coils get smoking hot and it can create lightening so make sure it is grounded well, I lost my boom box to a lightening strike...

the new allow MIT is working on is going to take the coil heat and create electricity from it and remove the need for cooling

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Mzg5WDU4MQ==/$(KGrHqJHJEcFBfObtLlnBQc0N1MQ-g~~60_14.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKpcE3JY(ci49BNzYl6HtRg~~1_14.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Super-Dual-12-24-volt-permanent-magnet-alternator-pma-for-wind-turbine-generator-/00/s/NTY3WDUxOQ==/z/EbIAAOxyHntSUM21/$(KGrHqFHJEgFI-fu)jQRBSUM21BDfw~~60_3.JPG

this gives an idea of the power curve at 3500 RPM

[Strat]

Oh ok. I'm not familiar with that I thought you were referring to something else. My mistake!

[peaceviddie]

Hopegirl has posted a lengthy update about the QEG; it's worth reading.

Here it is

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/if-you-build-it-and-give-it-away-they-will-come-qeg-full-disclosure/

[Eram]

Hopegirl has posted a lengthy update about the QEG; it's worth reading.

Here it is

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/if-you-build-it-and-give-it-away-they-will-come-qeg-full-disclosure/

an excerpt from the update:

Immediately after open sourcing the Fix the World QEG family attended a Prepare for Change Cobra conference in Taipei. We showed a presentation video of the QEG working prototype. Many who attended that conference are spreading the QEG knowledge all over the world. Cobra and his contacts from the light forces came to the factory where we are building QEGs to observe the operation for themselves. They are very impressed and we have the full backing and support of the Resistance Movement. Plans for larger scale production and parts sourcing are underway.

[Daphne]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W5IdtaqNFBs

[Yetti]

To Ahnung-quay.. Take a look on the works of this man at: http://alt-nrg.org/
He has lots of very interesting works on coils, you can profit on his designs , also dig into : peswiki site it is full of info about mag motors and all kind of new energy stuff. Live longer and prosper !

[Snowflower]

Reading through the website Q&A's; someone asked what the inductance is of the primary. In the answer given; it's stated that the two coils are in series (this is not how it's shown in the schematic)...

I know nothing about electricity, but was planning on forwarding the whole thing to someone who does, then got stopped here. Does anyone know about this?

[13th Warrior]

I'd advise a wait and see approach. There's no sense In getting too excited until proof of concept/claim is made; especially with the track record of so called "free energy devices" you can blame the boy who cried wolf one too many times...

About the schematic; it stands to reason that an unconventional electrical device (free energy) would employ an unconventional configuration...

For my money; i'm not about to drop 7 thou to find out so, i'm patiently sitting on my hands and waiting to see how this goes.

As far as I know, the group in Taiwan had yet to "tune" the device to where it's expected to produce about 500watts...

[Eligos]

Here is todays update, seems they hit a snag. They will rebuild the core tomorrow.

James:
While testing the prototype in Taiwan, we encountered a problem we need to inform all of you about. There appears to be a weakness in the insulation system on the core that will need to be addressed. Just after we verified that we had output from the generator (you’ve probably seen the Taiwan video showing the first time we ran it up to resonance), we began to test and document the output parameters. We started with a light load of about 600 watts. As we brought up the power, we heard a snap that is characteristic of a high voltage arc. There didn’t seem to be any damage, so we continued to document the readings at that power level. We heard another snap and stopped the generator to try to determine the cause.

We examined all the connections and did not find any problem. We resumed testing at the same level and heard a 3rd HV arc. This time we lost the output and stopped the generator to investigate. Everything looked ok until we checked the inductance of the ‘A’ primary coil (3100 turn coil on the side nearest the motor). The DC resistance looked ok, but we could not read inductance. This indicates one or more (probably more) shorted turns of wire. We had no choice but to cut off all the wire and look for shorted turns. We found 5 turns where the insulation had burned, and all 5 were shorted together. The shorted turns were not at the bottom of the coil near the steel, or at the 90° corners where the wire makes a sharp turn around the core (you motor guys know these are the most suspect areas for problems). The shorts were within the coil about 1/3 of the way up on the winding.

The head engineer here (our host) and the guys you saw in the video are just amazing! They immediately jumped on this problem and called in two experts within about an hour. They determined that interlayer insulation was probably needed (insulation between each layer of wire) to prevent this happening again. So off we go tomorrow, to the transformer company and then to the toroid winding company here, to get the core rebuilt and rewound with the improved insulation system. They have already designed several improvements to the system in addition to the interlayer insulation.

So it looks like we’ll have a 2-3 day delay before we can get back to testing… and we’ll be staying here to see it through!

We’d also like to call upon any experts out there who are experienced with building high voltage coils, transformers and similar devices, to bring their knowledge to bear on this project. We’re looking at this as an early opportunity to improve and ruggedize the design further.

I think we pushed it a little too hard here. Maybe rushing too much to get it done. If you're not on the main resonant frequency when loading it up, the high voltage tends to build up in the core.. doesn't transfer into the output coils. It looks like we dialed up the rpm too high while on a harmonic, and the HV went up too high too fast. There is some technique involved with tuning. When we get the core back, we'll monitor the HV VERY carefully while tuning. On our prototype, I was carefully watching the HV level while tuning. We had a lot of cooks here, and you know sometimes it's hard to watch everything


Hopegirl:
I just wanted to let everyone know about the amazing experience that this delay has brought about. The entire team here in Taiwan banded together to attack the problem and come up with solutions at record speed. Also I noticed that bringing in as many brilliant minds as possible in this way was most probably part of a greater cosmic plan to roll out. I mentioned before that the QEG appears to be bringing about Unity Consciousness in a way that is very real and effective. This is a great example. So while there is a delay, this is an incredible opportunity for the entire co-development process around the QEG and will bring all of those working on this closer together and strengthen us to bring this all the way through until everyone has access to free energy technology and WE THE PEOPLE upgrade the entire energy industry.

NB about the video "QEG Taiwan Has Resonance". We had to blur the faces because one of the engineers from China was in jeopardy of losing his job if he was seen.
before we reposted it the video had over 12,000 views!

[Nick Matkin]

Reading through the website Q&A's; someone asked what the inductance is of the primary. In the answer given; it's stated that the two coils are in series (this is not how it's shown in the schematic)...

I know nothing about electricity, but was planning on forwarding the whole thing to someone who does, then got stopped here. Does anyone know about this?

If the person you forward the plans to has sufficient electrical/electronic knowledge, they'll work out what to ask QEG for clarifications. But remember, the diagram is incomplete and if anyone with an engineering eye compares the text to the circuit, there are also inconsistencies. (See page 2 of this tread.)

Normally, when any company releases construction plans to the public for something to be reproduced (whether sold or given away), there are a number of iterations as they are farmed out to those competent follow the instructions. Feedback from constructors on errors and omissions ensure the final version can be followed with the minimum of confusion or failure.

For some reason it appears QEG have omitted that process. Perhaps it was released in a rush in case The Powers That Be tried to stop them. Well, perhaps it's now time to release updated and corrected instructions.

There are also a number of 'red flags' in the manual that have not gone unnoticed on engineering forums - here's one. (https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2244928)

To state the obvious, we need to be vigilant about such claims. One might be inclined to say traditional engineers will try to discredit or debunk the device, but if the device is proven to work, no amount of debunking will stop it working. And like I said before, it's not that difficult to measure IxV going in and IxV coming out to prove over unity.

Are there any engineers on here who are sufficiently convinced that they are going to invest in building one? If not why not?

Nick

PS: I so hope this is the real thing, but hopes have been dashed so often...

[13th Warrior]

I suspected they would have this problem; HV+HF makes a good ozone generator...

You can wind up chasing your tail to fix this; plug a leak here get a leak there and round you go.

[aviators]

I'd advise a wait and see approach. There's no sense In getting too excited until proof of concept/claim is made; especially with the track record of so called "free energy devices" you can blame the boy who cried wolf one too many times...

About the schematic; it stands to reason that an unconventional electrical device (free energy) would employ an unconventional configuration...

For my money; i'm not about to drop 7 thou to find out so, i'm patiently sitting on my hands and waiting to see how this goes.

As far as I know, the group in Taiwan had yet to "tune" the device to where it's expected to produce about 500watts...
I was under the impression the drive motor needed 1000 watts to drive the QEG.
My number one question to James would be : how long have you run a QEG under load continuously ?What was the load?
Would this not be important to know before going public to the world?

[Eligos]

Yes, well with all those heads put together, we will see some pretty quick progress.
At this stage we are still at the POC (proof of concept) stage minus the proof...lol.

[Eram]

Yes, well with all those heads put together, we will see some pretty quick progress.
At this stage we are still at the POC (proof of concept) stage minus the proof...lol.

I skipped my initial post and am going to replace it with a more "easy going" one.


Aren't you people getting suspicious by the fact that there is a big fat "donate" button attached to every blog, website and youtube that they manage?

Add that up to the fact that there is a scenario being played out that it will probably take another week or two before we can determine whether or not this is a genuine device...

...well!!!

[13th Warrior]

They are going to need the money for all the re-spins they will be doing trying to fix the HV coil shorts...

[Nick Matkin]

I think it's usual to iron out all the problems before something goes on public display - to ensure know-one ends up looking silly. When there are those waiting for a fail with such a controversial device, even more reason to test to the limits and only then display within those limits to ensure no one goes away disappointed.

[13th Warrior]

The doom of all startups is a lack of foresight...

For numerous reasons; they should have first built a small scale model that demonstrates proof of concept. I do believe QEG made a statement about not being in the proof business.

[Eligos]

Yes, well with all those heads put together, we will see some pretty quick progress.
At this stage we are still at the POC (proof of concept) stage minus the proof...lol.

I skipped my initial post and am going to replace it with a more "easy going" one.


Aren't you people getting suspicious by the fact that there is a big fat "donate" button attached to every blog, website and youtube that they manage?

Add that up to the fact that there is a scenario being played out that it will probably take another week or two before we can determine whether or not this is a genuine device...

...well!!!

Hey buddy! ;)
In this case, it doesn't feel like they are pulling shenanigans , HV spikes can and will happen when testing with new builds etc...
They were also quick to find a remedy to the problem. At this stage, with all the Chinese engineers that are present, if this device was pure fantasy, we would certainly have gotten wind of this. I think it's fair to say that 99% of people out there think it's a fraud. I chose to believe it because of the circumstances surrounding the people involved and the way they are going about it; certainly not because they had a great demo video with all the bells and whistles and third party testing...they have none.

[Rocky_Shorz]

donate button is a place to drop a thank you after learning it works...

pay to view is a different story...

buy these plans for 99 cents to learn the secret of the world...

why is someone spending so much to create literature, when they could be mass producing the actual invention and working on sales...

with Kesche announcing handing out the sticks just before they were working on this project says quite a bit too...

it's coming...

[aviators]

I think it's usual to iron out all the problems before something goes on public display - to ensure know-one ends up looking silly. When there are those waiting for a fail with such a controversial device, even more reason to test to the limits and only then display within those limits to ensure no one goes away disappointed.
Yes but my question is : Did James have a "ironed out "working unite before heading off to Taiwan ?
Presumably the answer is Yes.

[Eligos]

They did say "yes" (Having a working prototype) and they showed a private demo to the group of engineers before starting.

[13th Warrior]

I don't think it's a HV spike problem. They are having an arcing problem. This is how I anticipate this going:

They are going to work on arc suppression; it'll be a shim shim here and a shim shim there. They will get the arcs suppressed but, this will only prolong the failure event. They will then identify the corona problem that is degrading the insulation. The fix for this will start with vanishing the wound core; then potting the HV coils; then vacuum potting the HV coils...all of which is most likely pushing an eventual failure further down the road.

Pray that i'm wrong

[Eram]

Yes, well with all those heads put together, we will see some pretty quick progress.
At this stage we are still at the POC (proof of concept) stage minus the proof...lol.

I skipped my initial post and am going to replace it with a more "easy going" one.


Aren't you people getting suspicious by the fact that there is a big fat "donate" button attached to every blog, website and youtube that they manage?

Add that up to the fact that there is a scenario being played out that it will probably take another week or two before we can determine whether or not this is a genuine device...

...well!!!

Hey buddy! ;)
In this case, it doesn't feel like they are pulling shenanigans , HV spikes can and will happen when testing with new builds etc...
They were also quick to find a remedy to the problem. At this stage, with all the Chinese engineers that are present, if this device was pure fantasy, we would certainly have gotten wind of this. I think it's fair to say that 99% of people out there think it's a fraud. I chose to believe it because of the circumstances surrounding the people involved and the way they are going about it; certainly not because they had a great demo video with all the bells and whistles and third party testing...they have none.

I am all fore a debt free, slave free, liberated world my friend.
Let me state that clearly.

There are just lots of alarm bells ringing here.

We need to distinguish our hopes with what reality offers us and sadly, we live in a reality where we get fooled lots of the times when out hopes are involved.

In the introduction youtube, hopegirl (what a name) talks about the family in law (the man who is developing the engine) that they have had to move because of reasons of fracking (could there be a reason that would speak more to the imagination of the alternative truth seeker?).
So they have no more money to develop any further.

We have here:

Hope girl
had to move because of fracking (no more money, due to an all known enemy)
No video of a working device, attached to measuring apparatus etc.
a referral to the Tesla harmony thingy.
learned in a 1 hour class that apparently is thought to people who want to learn.
a "donate" button
a scenario that could stretch for weeks if not months.


When does "open minded" become "closed minded/disregarding the writing on the wall" ?

[Carmody]

Your problem, is that this sort of thing has been significant and real, at least an unexaggerated 100 times -before this QEG over-unity example came along.

That you have to chose one, put the energy in required to self verify that it works....and then promote it well past the point of others trying to kill you for it.

Ie, no fear - as it kills all, not just yourself.

This is a pretty good example of a functional device, one that has some minimal form of not being too bad for the local space time environment.

It still engages in a extended field modulation resonant kind of way, dimensionally and thus space/time speaking..and thus.... a bit like..er dimensional cow bellies. (local term! obviously...) some call it 'quick sand'.

Basically, the oscillations of the devices, the resonance of the device, comes from local 3d space field integrations, and the further away you are from the machine, the less the fabric is disturbed.

BUT..like tesla's earthquake machine that was attached to the beam in the building, this can lead to problems.

Tesla's machine was designed to find a perfect complementary resonance, and amplify it. To amplify resonance points and cause self tear down.

Since the local space/time/dimensional stability is still Einsteinian, ie local and relative, this means it is a matter of chance, with regard to potential for issues to arise. thus, not a matter of how, that is established..but when will one of these devices finally cause issue?

It is, for the larger part, near impossible, at this time of public discourse, to design a shield for the issue, as the field integration is key to the system's function.

Thankfully, as noted, the system is designed to accomplish most of it's function internally, but it still has the connective tissue issue, with the local space/time/dimension space.

This is why I prefer to see things like the E-Cat, which is like a slow damped leak, which has very little external resonant complex field modulation as possible. What it is doing has very low odds of ever creating an issue.

This one, like all field modulators, be they magnet or magnetless, are all functional yes.....but they are all problems waiting to occur due to this field resonance effect.

When it is done purposely as manipulation, then you get UFO's, anti-gravity, dimensional crossing, FTL transport systems, jumprooms to mars, HAARP, yellowbook, looking glass, the Nazi bell, and the nastiest of all - weapons.

It can be promoted to get the ball rolling, yes, to force the hand, but it should be understood as..... being not the best path.


Here, see what it does to dimensional and time/space stability of the 2d fields in the local area -which are part of our impression of 'our' reference frame or 3d linear time/space. Think of the physical motion as being the 'resonance' of the QEG machine and the effects in the sand's stability being the dimensional modulation of the quantum vortexes, the sand or dark matter fields and matter, being made of of 2d fields at high level high energy high frequency integration.

Remember the stories of the people stuck half in and half out of the deck of the ship in the 'Philadelphia experiment'. Joseph Farrell seems to think it was propaganda and never happened (cover story for Thomas Townsend Brown), but the details indicate the story is real, or it was based on expected and known phenomena that would have occurred if it did indeed take place.

Hopefully you begin to see the problem of this whole thing, unless it is handled properly.

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There are 'thinnings of the veil' everywhere. Some are set pattens, like vortex points, ley lines, energy gird lines, etc, where specific types of specific dimensions have weakened areas, like UVG grid points, and so on.

Astrology is the tale of this field modulation, or the 'prime mover' for this field modulation on and in this earth planetary area. The idea of you as a dimensional spirit tied to a 3d body, is the essential connective tissue of resonance, capacities and life flow, in a synchronicity/dance of a motional and flowing pattern.

This is (the whole dimensional resonance issue thrust of the entire post) directly tied to the missing 411 in the parks of the USA, and so on. Sightings, all that sort of stuff.

Ie, the entire point of the lithium thread in the priority thread area. to get the fundamentals, in some form, out there so people can find their balance, in and on this plane of existence.

[Eligos]

Carmody,

Well your assumption is that it is a ZPM device. What if it does not get it's extra output energy from the ether, space time etc but instead is just a principle that was never discovered before because we were all thought in school not to think outside the box?

[Carmody]

Carmody,

Well your assumption is that it is a ZPM device. What if it does not get it's extra output energy from the ether, space time etc but instead is just a principle that was never discovered before because we were all thought in school not to think outside the box?

There is no assumption here.

It is what it is, it does what it does, it is a dimensional field modulation device, like all 'quantum structure' and all 'reality fabric' is of like and like nature.

You are viewing reality from this point of view in a complex matrix, it is of similar position and integration.

None of these devices, including the so-called atoms of your body, the mouse in your hand, the monitor, the chair or the house..and so on...from your view plane of view position, are exempted.

[Eligos]

Carmody,

Well your assumption is that it is a ZPM device. What if it does not get it's extra output energy from the ether, space time etc but instead is just a principle that was never discovered before because we were all thought in school not to think outside the box?

There is no assumption here.

It is what it is, it does what it does, it is a dimensional field modulation device, like all 'quantum structure' and all 'reality fabric' is of like and like nature.

You are viewing reality from this point of view in a complex matrix, it is of similar position and integration.

None of these devices, including the so-called atoms of your body, the mouse in your hand, the monitor, the chair or the house..and so on...from your view plane of view position, are exempted.

Well ok then, I guess this discussion is over, lol

[Carmody]

I'll add a bit, to expand things.

I am neither for nor against, just putting in some of the the educational points that hopefully serve as an advisory.

If you look closely, you may note that I'm not saying that it does not work -IMO.

Dynamos have been known to self levitate and then in the process of doing that...self accelerate to explosive velocities - when speed tested, back in the old days of early DC magnet motor design.

This appears to be a derivative of that particular issue. As you can note from our history, or the current times, they got rid of this self accelerating and levitating dynamo issue.

History states pretty clearly... that there is no reason that their implementation/design would not work.

it is the rotation that is key, the skipping past a given 'speed' or RPM point for a given rotating mass (specific to the device), which spins the 'fabric of reality' about. This is the original UFO propulsion scenario.

Watch the one video of tuning the thing and then listen to the resonance point when reached. Note that it starts to really 'hammer', which is the local time-space field modulation issue arising.

[Eligos]

Yes, well with all those heads put together, we will see some pretty quick progress.
At this stage we are still at the POC (proof of concept) stage minus the proof...lol.

I skipped my initial post and am going to replace it with a more "easy going" one.


Aren't you people getting suspicious by the fact that there is a big fat "donate" button attached to every blog, website and youtube that they manage?

Add that up to the fact that there is a scenario being played out that it will probably take another week or two before we can determine whether or not this is a genuine device...

...well!!!

Hey buddy! ;)
In this case, it doesn't feel like they are pulling shenanigans , HV spikes can and will happen when testing with new builds etc...
They were also quick to find a remedy to the problem. At this stage, with all the Chinese engineers that are present, if this device was pure fantasy, we would certainly have gotten wind of this. I think it's fair to say that 99% of people out there think it's a fraud. I chose to believe it because of the circumstances surrounding the people involved and the way they are going about it; certainly not because they had a great demo video with all the bells and whistles and third party testing...they have none.

I am all fore a debt free, slave free, liberated world my friend.
Let me state that clearly.

There are just lots of alarm bells ringing here.

We need to distinguish our hopes with what reality offers us and sadly, we live in a reality where we get fooled lots of the times when out hopes are involved.

In the introduction youtube, hopegirl (what a name) talks about the family in law (the man who is developing the engine) that they have had to move because of reasons of fracking (could there be a reason that would speak more to the imagination of the alternative truth seeker?).
So they have no more money to develop any further.

We have here:

Hope girl
had to move because of fracking (no more money, due to an all known enemy)
No video of a working device, attached to measuring apparatus etc.
a referral to the Tesla harmony thingy.
learned in a 1 hour class that apparently is thought to people who want to learn.
a "donate" button
a scenario that could stretch for weeks if not months.


When does "open minded" become "closed minded/disregarding the writing on the wall" ?

I agree with all your points!
I guess I'm like Fox Mulder on X-Files "I choose to believe" :lever:

[Carmody]

Personally, I have no reason to disbelieve that this device works, as it follows all the basic rules.


This can still be a ruse, designed to make money... and possibly...to find a person of interest to attach to it and then promote it....and then reveal that it is a ruse, and thus destroy the reputation and traction of that given person or group, within the public eye.

Generally, my experience, direct/personal and observed... is that the devices are predominantly REAL, and FUNCTIONAL, but the moment these things appear on the world stage, the agents of confusion and misfortune appear in the darker and shadowed corners of these people's lives..and they move into destroy emergent understanding, reputation, and all possible future doorways of advancement, of any kind, for the individuals involved.

If one moves in these areas.... prepare to get metaphorically stripped, tied to a chair, and have your limbs burned off and be left for dead.

If you can't accept the costs of trying to help enable humanity's future, then don't enter the arena.

If you do enter the arena, then please understand that my metaphor is largely correct, if a bit brutal and harsh sounding.

Starting from that position, as a point of knowing....may help you last long enough to help in the efforts that it will take to get it done.

[aviators]

Excellent interview with QEG inventor James and the fix the world team Hope Girl and Valerie. Interviewed by Sterling Allan. Sterling asked some good questions for James and Hope girl added enthusiasm on how there project has been received and is developing at record speed.
James even boldly said mass manufacturing cost could be reduced in 6 months or less.

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[peaceviddie]

Yes, well with all those heads put together, we will see some pretty quick progress.
At this stage we are still at the POC (proof of concept) stage minus the proof...lol.

I skipped my initial post and am going to replace it with a more "easy going" one.


Aren't you people getting suspicious by the fact that there is a big fat "donate" button attached to every blog, website and youtube that they manage?

Add that up to the fact that there is a scenario being played out that it will probably take another week or two before we can determine whether or not this is a genuine device...

...well!!!

They have dates planned to fly all over the world teaching this technology and they're very welcoming to any community groups who want to join the sessions (they're not asking to paid either; they're hoping that when people start marketing these devices that they will voluntarily kick back some money to fund future teachings). In summary, it kind of makes sense that they would be asking for donations.

I just donated $100 to the Canadian QEG team and plan on donating again in the near future. I can't help out on the technical side (which is too bad seeing as the inventor will be doing teachings 30 minutes away from my home in May) so I figure I should help out in the only way I can.

[Eram]

Maybe I'm just starting to become a cynical old fart peaceviddie and I'm reading this all wrong.

I can tell you one thing though.
If this turns out to be the real deal and it will make it to main stream... Life as we know it will change forever and much more dramatic that we can ever imagine.

[Reinhard]

Exactly! There have been real and functional devices!! All of them never got beyond the dark agents of 'the powers', you described --- spot on, as always ;).

Let's hope that THIS TIME the 'Fix-the-world' group --- besides having worked out the technicalities -- will succeed in getting beyond the 'sticky point' of organizing the break through. It seems like they are doing just that.......if they get all the concrete (implementation) support from decentralized US. i.e.: talking and hoping doesn't suffice, doing is highly appropriate!


Personally, I have no reason to disbelieve that this device works, as it follows all the basic rules.


This can still be a ruse, designed to make money... and possibly...to find a person of interest to attach to it and then promote it....and then reveal that it is a ruse, and thus destroy the reputation and traction of that given person or group, within the public eye.

Generally, my experience, direct/personal and observed... is that the devices are predominantly REAL, and FUNCTIONAL, but the moment these things appear on the world stage, the agents of confusion and misfortune appear in the darker and shadowed corners of these people's lives..and they move into destroy emergent understanding, reputation, and all possible future doorways of advancement, of any kind, for the individuals involved.

If one moves in these areas.... prepare to get metaphorically stripped, tied to a chair, and have your limbs burned off and be left for dead.

If you can't accept the costs of trying to help enable humanity's future, then don't enter the arena.

If you do enter the arena, then please understand that my metaphor is largely correct, if a bit brutal and harsh sounding.

Starting from that position, as a point of knowing....may help you last long enough to help in the efforts that it will take to get it done.

[aviators]

Here is a quote from WITTS Ministries. http://www.witts.ws/learn/

"Once enough people are enlightened, and learn to work together, we can bring these great realities and these great solutions to all mankind."


We can thank Timothy Thrapp, from WITTS Ministries for his work on the Witts
Generator.

Here is part 2 showing Timothy with the Witts machine (self running) on it's own!

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One thing I've realized is The QEG team are the ones who broke-out and finally got
the world to take notice. Marketing was the key. Perhaps people are ready for this?

Fix the world project has acknowledged the Witts Ministries and wants
people to support this organization as well. donations are welcome


God's Speed......

[Nick Matkin]

A great example of "if it's so simple a guy can do it in his loft from documents in the public domain", I just don't see how/why we're not all doing it. It must be easy.

Just because conventional physics says it's impossible, if you can demonstrate an over unity machine, a shift it understanding is inevitable.

Great physicists said heavier-than-air flight was impossible. All the Wright Brothers had to do was demonstrate it. Science didn't close ranks to suppress the invention because the world's first successful airplane "broke the rules" of physics. Science watched, learned and developed the jumbo jet.

There are plenty of independent scientists who would love to understand how the known laws of physics have apparently been broken. There are plenty that would be willing to risk wasting their time on another hoax, just in case. They'd be fighting over who gets the Nobel Prize!

I absolutely cannot see how a genuine invention like this would or could be ignored or suppressed. FFS, if no on else showed any interest, Oxfam would use it to bring electricity African villages. They wouldn't care if it broke the laws of physics or not if it worked.

I want to be convinced this stuff is genuine, but until I see one in front of me and my test equipment... No. Sorry.

Nick

[13th Warrior]

Supposing this design does work; QEG says the energy is produced from vibration. If this is the case, there is going to be the issue of fretting to be delt with; otherwise this thing is going to vibrate its' self into dust.

[peaceviddie]

Here is a quote from WITTS Ministries. http://www.witts.ws/learn/

"Once enough people are enlightened, and learn to work together, we can bring these great realities and these great solutions to all mankind."


We can thank Timothy Thrapp, from WITTS Ministries for his work on the Witts
Generator.

Here is part 2 showing Timothy with the Witts machine (self running) on it's own!

LgEsSOphlp8
One thing I've realized is The QEG team are the ones who broke-out and finally got
the world to take notice. Marketing was the key. Perhaps people are ready for this?

Fix the world project has acknowledged the Witts Ministries and wants
people to support this organization as well. donations are welcome


God's Speed......

WITTS was guarding the technology in the hopes of one day raising enough funds to manufacture it and presumptively fund their missions (they are currently charging 100 grand per machine); they essentially fell into the same trap as everyone else that tried to market a free energy device.

[aviators]

Supposing this design does work; QEG says the energy is produced from vibration. If this is the case, there is going to be the issue of fretting to be delt with; otherwise this thing is going to vibrate its' self into dust.
Thats a really good question. I guess it depends on what strength and what parts are
absorbing the vibration. Some things are made to vibrate. A speaker comes to mind.
A warning buzzer at 60 Hz vibrates.
Is 400 Hz more forgiving ? and can it run for long long long periods ? I don't know...

[13th Warrior]

The rotor, shaft and bearings are less of a concern...it's the 140 laminations that make up the stator that are spot welded in 4 places that would be a deal breaker.

On second thought the rotor would also be troublesome, you are dealing with a .010" gap between the rotor & stator; too much run out and the two will collide...any damage to the stator is going to cost you.

[aviators]

The rotor, shaft and bearings are less of a concern...it's the 140 laminations that make up the stator that are spot welded in 4 places that would be a deal breaker.

On second thought the rotor would also be troublesome, you are dealing with a .010" gap between the rotor & stator; too much run out and the two will collide...any damage to the stator is going to cost you.
Here what you are saying.
Diesel engines operate under extreme conditions. High compression with all kinds of stresses and vibration.
Every revolution a piston (with tight tolerances) has to completely change direction X2
On paper you would think an engine like this would fail n short order Be lucky to make 1000 miles.
In real life 500,000 is not uncommon.
Just saying... Not really a fare comparison but at least the rotor doesn't have to change direction.;)

[13th Warrior]

Dude diesel engines are 4 stroke motors...do me a favor and look up the definition of "fretting"

[aviators]

Dude diesel engines are 4 stroke motors...do me a favor and look up the definition of "fretting"

Fretting refers to wear and sometimes corrosion damage at the asperities of contact surfaces. This damage is induced under load and in the presence of repeated relative surface motion, as induced for example by vibration. The ASM Handbook on Fatigue and Fracture defines "A special wear process that occurs at the contact area between two materials under load and subject to minute relative motion by vibration or some other force."

My only point was diesel motors have proven there reliability. A lot of moving parts to fail. Fretting may be a different factor. Perhaps minute relative motion is different.
BTW fretting can occur with engines and some diesel engines are 2 stroke.;)

[13th Warrior]

Aviators,

Diesel motors have critical moving parts submerged in an oil bath (lubrication).

The only lubrication in the QEG is bearing grease.

Anyone who has worked with servo motors will understand my concern.

[ThePythonicCow]

I have moved all three "Quantum Energy Generator (QEG)" threads under the Free Energy & Future Technology (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?17-Free-Energy-Future-Technology) sub-forum (a couple were already there), and normalized their thread titles in various ways. The resulting three threads are:

Plans for the Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) were released today (March 25, 2014) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69815-Plans-for-the-Quantum-Energy-Generator--QEG--were-released-today--March-25-2014-)
Build your own Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69883-Build-your-own-Quantum-Energy-Generator--QEG-)
Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Taiwan Has Resonance! (April 4, 2014) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70183-Quantum-Energy-Generator--QEG--Taiwan-Has-Resonance---April-4-2014-)

I tend not to like merging threads as often as some are ... so have not merged any of the above, so far at least.

[loveoflife]

QEG -- Fix the World Organization Interview by PESN; April 3, 2014

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[loveoflife]

I am all fore a debt free, slave free, liberated world my friend.
Let me state that clearly.

There are just lots of alarm bells ringing here.

We need to distinguish our hopes with what reality offers us and sadly, we live in a reality where we get fooled lots of the times when out hopes are involved.

In the introduction youtube, hopegirl (what a name) talks about the family in law (the man who is developing the engine) that they have had to move because of reasons of fracking (could there be a reason that would speak more to the imagination of the alternative truth seeker?).
So they have no more money to develop any further.

We have here:

Hope girl
had to move because of fracking (no more money, due to an all known enemy)
No video of a working device, attached to measuring apparatus etc.
a referral to the Tesla harmony thingy.
learned in a 1 hour class that apparently is thought to people who want to learn.
a "donate" button
a scenario that could stretch for weeks if not months.


When does "open minded" become "closed minded/disregarding the writing on the wall" ?

When the fat lady sings and loses her voice.

[aviators]

somebody built a QEG in Germany and has now resonance
In fact he writes in the comments that he has been tuning this machine for about a year and also gave up several times, but then with the Plans from Hopegirl he could bring the machine to work.

"A test 3 days ago showed up that we have 9300V at 0.7A. The Problem is somewhere in the Transformation between primary windings and secondary windings. If we start with a higher load attached like 500 Watt lamps we reach resonance but the lamp didn't light up. The machine is producing "raw power".
I think it has overunity potential because no matter what you attach to the output ,the QEG draws not more power. The secret is to get the exciter tank circuit to run properly, ony then we can have more power than 150 Watts. Its like in Taiwan they havn't attached more than two bulbs right? Its the same here. Only raw power!"
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[Eligos]

We are very close guys, 2 more days I think.

[aviators]

I asked this question before. Does anyone know how long a QEG (aka Witts)
Generator has continually run under load. In James interview (post 95) James said
he ran his prototype in short 1 HR test periods possible totaling 150 Hrs. This was at partial load.

[Eligos]

aviators , I think this is not a QEG but a Joule Thief circuit. I know it was posted on be-do.com but I think it's not related at all to the QEG device.

[Eligos]

Check this out, could be why, in part anyway, the QEG gets it’s mysterious powers, ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLK1VG8h2Wc&feature=youtu.be

[peaceviddie]

I asked this question before. Does anyone know how long a QEG (aka Witts)
Generator has continually run under load. In James interview (post 95) James said
he ran his prototype in short 1 HR test periods possible totaling 150 Hrs. This was at partial load. I don't think it really matters whether the QEG is capable of running for 10 years without failing; if it can run long enough to toss long held beliefs about sources of energy out the window, the QEG team has accomplished their mission. If the QEG is proven and goes mainstream, I fully expect it will become obsoletely technology very shortly. When people expand their minds, they won't think twice about clicking the donate button for Searl Magnetics or other similar type projects; more importantly, they'll force their politicians to cut the BS and send tax payers dollars to real energy solutions. Although I would love to have a QEG powering my house in the near future, I clicked the donate button recently and will continue to click that button because I want my children grow up in a free society.

[aviators]

I asked this question before. Does anyone know how long a QEG (aka Witts)
Generator has continually run under load. In James interview (post 95) James said
he ran his prototype in short 1 HR test periods possible totaling 150 Hrs. This was at partial load. I don't think it really matters whether the QEG is capable of running for 10 years without failing; if it can run long enough to toss long held beliefs about sources of energy out the window, the QEG team has accomplished their mission. If the QEG is proven and goes mainstream, I fully expect it will become obsoletely technology very shortly. When people expand their minds, they won't think twice about clicking the donate button for Searl Magnetics or other similar type projects; more importantly, they'll force their politicians to cut the BS and send tax payers dollars to real energy solutions. Although I would love to have a QEG powering my house in the near future, I clicked the donate button recently and will continue to click that button because I want my children grow up in a free society.

Thanks peaceviddie, I completely agree with you! Just the principle is great news for the world. I am trying to spread this news. Most of the questions I get come back to my " how long" question. My feeling too is it doesn't matter because this is just the beginning. We are witnessing history unfolding for the better. This brings me joy to think we can make a difference..

Best Regards...

[Eligos]

Well the trolls are starting to hunker down in the Skype Forums over at QEGNetwork. I would have been surprised otherwise. :rolleyes:

[Daphne]

Well the trolls are starting to hunker down in the Skype Forums over at QEGNetwork. I would have been surprised otherwise. :rolleyes:


Where there are trolls, there is truth!!

[Marc Barrie]

Where there are trolls, there is truth!!

http://s27.postimg.org/63v7wjacz/trolls_300.jpg

[peaceviddie]

Well the trolls are starting to hunker down in the Skype Forums over at QEGNetwork. I would have been surprised otherwise. :rolleyes: The QEG team has abandoned the Skype chat because of trolls.

[Nick Matkin]

The QEG team has abandoned the Skype chat because of trolls.

I guess it depends what you mean by 'trolls'. Aggressive, offensive postings are always unnecessary and unwanted. But if someone asks probing engineering questions and is met with evasive, defensive or no replies from QEG, then it's not surprising that they get frustrated.

Perhaps some of the non-scientific 'I-wanna-believe' brigade misinterpret perfectly legitimate technical questions as offensive trolling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they appear to labeling anyone who dares request clarification on deeply technical issues as trying to pick holes in the system and its design.

Well sorry folks, if you're presenting a device and making extraordinary claims, you need to present extraordinary evidence - to paraphrase Carl Sagan. QEG need to be prepared to defend forceful criticism with equally robust responses.

Nick

[13th Warrior]

Any new updates on the QEG since the 7th?

[aviators]

Any new updates on the QEG since the 7th?

nope, the silence is deafening. Hopefully some news tonight.

[loveoflife]

The QEG team has abandoned the Skype chat because of trolls.

I guess it depends what you mean by 'trolls'. Aggressive, offensive postings are always unnecessary and unwanted. But if someone asks probing engineering questions and is met with evasive, defensive or no replies from QEG, then it's not surprising that they get frustrated.

Perhaps some of the non-scientific 'I-wanna-believe' brigade misinterpret perfectly legitimate technical questions as offensive trolling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they appear to labeling anyone who dares request clarification on deeply technical issues as trying to pick holes in the system and its design.

Well sorry folks, if you're presenting a device and making extraordinary claims, you need to present extraordinary evidence - to paraphrase Carl Sagan. QEG need to be prepared to defend forceful criticism with equally robust responses.

Nick

When dealing with science that challenges the laws of physics as they are at present understood, i dont blame the QEG team. There are many subjects that we call alternative, because thinking outside of the box is required to accept them or even approach with an open mind.

I do not see the point in arguing with someone who attacks because they have decided to remain entrenched in the box of mainstream thinking.

Cognitive dissonance is denial. If denial is somebodies stance then the subject matter is invisible to them. If i see that there is an elephant in the room and the other cannot see it. Then that is all there is to it.

Trolls generally have the habit of insisting that they are right and fight to defend their righteousness. I agree with the QEG team why argue when the device speaks for itself.

Academics mainly have an elitist compartmentalised way of thinking. They assume that they and institutions of learning have a monopoly on knowledge, and that without the necessary qualifications one has no right to an opinion. They are fond of the word impossible, and are often envious when some self taught upstart changes the established paradigm.

Knowledge belongs to the people and needs to be freely available.

[peaceviddie]

In highschool, my physics teacher taught us about resonance. Inquisitive minded I went home and put a set of 12 crystal margarita glasses on a table and got them to sing by running my finger along one of them; I didn't understand it and still don't but couldn't help but wonder if this had practical applications. When teaching a grade 4 class about the conservation of energy, I had difficulty wrapping my mind around nor plausibly explaining how a magnet brought in close proximity to iron could cause the iron to move toward the magnet. Perhaps I'm lacking a deeper understanding, but I wonder if some principles in physics are conveniently avoided.

[lysander]

So there's still nothing out regarding his turning mercury to gold using copper wires and a cola bottle.... or am i missing something ?

[Nick Matkin]

So there's still nothing out regarding his turning mercury to gold using copper wires and a cola bottle.... or am i missing something ?

You must be patient. Any day now...

======

"Why are we waiting, Wh-y are we wait-ing, Why are we wait-ing, oh why, why, oh why..."

I'm not sure how widely known internationally that chant is...

[Hughe]

Here is my take on the QEG project.

It looks promising but prototype means it needs a lot of improvement and hidden issues until it get perfected. How much money and time it’ll take is unknown. That’s why building any serious machine starts with small prototype and careful plan.

Importing all the parts of the QEG costs me thirty percent of the original price for border tax and shipping and handling, which make it over $10,000 investment at least. Hmm… Even if I have hundred thousands dollars in the bank account, I wouldn’t build this prototype. Because I know how things work in engineering world.

There are two reasons I support the QEG team: Open Source development model, Ralph Ring‘s involvement. I personally hope the QEG project will deliver real FE power generators to general public who can afford it pretty soon. It gotta be come out fast.


Complete scientific test data of 10kW QEG prototypes
Scale downed version of QEG prototypes: 500W to few kW.
Reliable QEG kit suppliers

Provided the team delivers above things in the list, this will be major breakthrough in Free Energy technology over 100 years. Other inventors and groups will join and build various Free Energy devices later on. Then general public will be able to select the right FE power generator that suits best for them.

The time will tell whether it would be another bluff or historical event that impacts the course of human history.

Tevgh2SX93s

[Sabrina]

QEG TRAINING IN UK OFFERED FOR TECHNICALLY MINDED

I've recently been in contact with Ian Evetts of: http://ian1972.wix.com/quantum who is based in Coventry, UK and says he's spent the last five years researching and building free energy devices.

He's currently over in Morocco at the moment getting QEG training. He says he'd like to train technically minded people when he comes back to the UK, so if you are interested, please contact him via his contact page at his website at the top.

You might not get an immediate response, as there have been communications problems at their base in Aouchtam, Morocco, with internet going down in the village etc. Read about it here: http://removingtheshackles.blogspot.ca/2014/04/transparency-in-aouchtam-and-morocco.html

Will be interesting to hear how it all goes - the 'proof of the pudding' and all of that...

[Carmody]

The QEG team has abandoned the Skype chat because of trolls.

I guess it depends what you mean by 'trolls'. Aggressive, offensive postings are always unnecessary and unwanted. But if someone asks probing engineering questions and is met with evasive, defensive or no replies from QEG, then it's not surprising that they get frustrated.

Perhaps some of the non-scientific 'I-wanna-believe' brigade misinterpret perfectly legitimate technical questions as offensive trolling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they appear to labeling anyone who dares request clarification on deeply technical issues as trying to pick holes in the system and its design.

Well sorry folks, if you're presenting a device and making extraordinary claims, you need to present extraordinary evidence - to paraphrase Carl Sagan. QEG need to be prepared to defend forceful criticism with equally robust responses.

Nick

actually, IMO and IME, to get things done in a world that demands massive proofs for extraordinary claims..to get things done, you need to IGNORE the desires for explanations and push past those people. IGNORE them completely.

NEVER engage them on their own ground, on their own terms, in a battle scenario, in any way, shape, or form. In such a scenario, one falls prey to a force they cannot overcome,as the force of denial is far far more potent than the truth of the device working. What happens is the human will and desires of millions of engineers and the like, who's very existence on this earth, their very core belief structures are under deep deep threat, and this causes a cognitive disconnect in them.

In that case, it will be YEARS of them fighting with themselves to get past their own metal blocks, to reform their base psychology.

And, if you confront them on their OWN terms, all you will do is engage them in an area where their base psychology will fight to the death and beyond, to hold the ground they exist in and on. they'll kill you and the idea thousand times over, before they'll give an inch of ground, no matter what they Say. And there are MILLIONS of them.

Walk right past and through them, have absolutely NOTHING to do with them, whatsoever, in any way, shape, or form. Engaging them is the route to death and failure. A violent army of fundamental fear and denial, with all the factors of violence and conniving that one can possibly image, and beyond.

One path exists, and that is to simply build the devices and distribute them. Nothing else works.

If the engineers and scientific interests...try come to you, stay the hell away from them.

This is my direct experience. Heed these warnings, or you will fail.

Engage only with the people who understand already. Build the base that works, in the direction that works, do not engage a battle group that numbers in the millions and will kill you a thousand times over.

That is a major component of what has caused all that has come before, to fail.

Your organization and ability to work outside of accepted norms is the only thing that will get you to where you want to be.

[Nick Matkin]

Some folks just don't get it.

If it works, and breaks the laws of physics as we presently understand them, scientists will be clambering to learn what they don't understand and apply it to other problems.

I believe it's nonsense to say they'll be fighting their own 'mental block'. People who say that usually have no experience with the scientific method. How and why would you fail just because pesky, sceptical scientists want to ask questions?

I guess it's fine to ignore probing questions if you're busy developing ground-breaking technology; they'll see it soon enough and the doubters will have to eat their words.

As I've already said, when heavier-than-air flight was clearly demonstrated, scientists who said it was impossible ate their words, and got on with developing the jumbo jet. There was no attempt at 'suppressing the technology' because it broke the existing scientific paradigms.

Prove the ******* thing works, get them out and working in the world at large and we'll look on in awe. Otherwise stop wasting everyone's time. Unfortunately there are plenty of folks who are tired of deadline after deadline being missed.

I don't know what sort of physicists you know, but in my experience if they were gathered around a device that was producing more power than it was consuming, clearly being demonstrated in front of them and their test equipment, they'd be beside themselves with excitement!

When will Oxfam be able to buy these devices and light up African villages? By this summer? Christmas? Next spring? We need to know...

Nick

[Hughe]

As I've already said, when heavier-than-air flight was clearly demonstrated, scientists who said it was impossible ate their words, and got on with developing the jumbo jet. There was no attempt at 'suppressing the technology' because it broke the existing scientific paradigms.


Demonstrated it by whom? Two bicycle mechanics who only had high school education spent over 10 years figured out aerodynamics after 1,000 of experiments. The Wright Brothers didn't demonstrated aircraft instead they discovered hidden laws of physics in air. What were the smart scientists and engineers doing?

Do you honestly think Nicola Tesla's Free Energy technology was simply manufactured disinformation by bunch of individuals who hate TPTB? The fact is entire civilization has been depending on Tesla's electric power generator and distribution system for 100 years. But how many people actually aware of Nicola Tesla's existence and the vision, mind-boggling inventions that turn energy industry upside down? Instead Mr. Einstein who invented turned-out-to-be garbage hypothesis, the theory of Relativity, hailed, worshiped by scientists.

The theory of Relativity makes people hopeless. It's one of the fundamental building blocks of nightmarish thermonuclear fission energy. The invariant principle of physical law is nonsensical claim. Physical laws actually change according to emerging theories which make sense. All teachers from elementary to university don't or can't explain major theories in modern science at conceptual level IMHO. They only tell one story like a tape recorder for many generations to make living.

Nowadays it's easy to build gravity manipulation device for educational purpose. The problem is that gravity manipulation is impossible by mainstream scientists. Demonstrating phenomenon that's contradict to laws in physics on textbook is prohibited. If a teacher does it in class room, he/she might get fired. Gravity manipulation, cold fusion, and implosion are prohibited subjects in physics. Finding flaws from old theory without explanation must be blamed first. It's funny and stupid at the same time.

This is my emergency shelter I built. What present society tell us to do is just live stupidly and die in great pain when disaster hits. Elected government by citizens is useless. I asked serious questions about long term blackout to few employees in the power company that supplies and manages electricity of entire nation. They don't have any plan. People like me who prepare survival at personal level is probably one out of 100,000 in the country I live. It is disturbing reality.
http://butterflyofdream.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/dsc_0660.jpg?w=672

Most population live in developed countries needs Free Energy in near future to main the quality of living they enjoy. Once the grid falls, it's game over. Maybe that's what TPTB has planned.

The bottom line is human existence is all about energy. It's hard to contemplate what if all the people are liberated from forced labor for survival and do what they love and like for living.

[tnkayaker]

no Hughe its all about money, unfortunately......all i can say is, Gerry Garcia really was saying it, live a simpler life, grow your own veggies, SHARE what you have and what others may need, because when you help the wheel spin, (the karmic wheel that is) it all comes back 10 fold, so share your heart out and watch it come back, it does, really it does, if you have just one meal and you see someone or someone asks you for food, cut it in half and eat a little less or give it all away and think about why you may feel hungry and how many others feel that way more than you do, and look inside and ponder these feelings and let yourself grow from that, its a crazy concept but helping the karmic wheel spin is a just a worthy cause, taking care of animals, not eating meat if you can handle that, i wont get into that now , but hey i just wanted to toss you a few thoughts, love and light brother, peace,dennis

[Carmody]

Some folks just don't get it.

If it works, and breaks the laws of physics as we presently understand them, scientists will be clambering to learn what they don't understand and apply it to other problems.

I believe it's nonsense to say they'll be fighting their own 'mental block'. People who say that usually have no experience with the scientific method. How and why would you fail just because pesky, sceptical scientists want to ask questions?

I guess it's fine to ignore probing questions if you're busy developing ground-breaking technology; they'll see it soon enough and the doubters will have to eat their words.

As I've already said, when heavier-than-air flight was clearly demonstrated, scientists who said it was impossible ate their words, and got on with developing the jumbo jet. There was no attempt at 'suppressing the technology' because it broke the existing scientific paradigms.

Prove the ******* thing works, get them out and working in the world at large and we'll look on in awe. Otherwise stop wasting everyone's time. Unfortunately there are plenty of folks who are tired of deadline after deadline being missed.

I don't know what sort of physicists you know, but in my experience if they were gathered around a device that was producing more power than it was consuming, clearly being demonstrated in front of them and their test equipment, they'd be beside themselves with excitement!

When will Oxfam be able to buy these devices and light up African villages? By this summer? Christmas? Next spring? We need to know...

Nick

Read my post again, and then go to Wade Frazier's thread in the priority thread area. Then take a look at his website.

In there you will find over what is probably +30 years of experience in the ACTUAL alternative technology field and how it integrates with the public world.

What you will find is that what I'm saying is the REAL DEAL. My post is dead on, your opinion has no direct or real experience and you have not gone through the process. :)

If you attempt it any other way, you're going to get your legs and your life cut out from under you, a thousand times over.

This is no joke.

The way I'm saying to go, the direction I'm speaking in, the black ops, military, and corporate groups have done it that way for nearly 100 years.

You are speaking on the question, a question you have no understanding of the meaning of, the scope of it, or the true and real situation that is at hand.

If it does not have guerrilla warfare, secretive, non public, cell type but widespread effort to it, it will fail.

You don't understand.

There are literally groups of trained ops people waiting in the wings to discredit and knock off free energy researchers and their projects, and take their technology. Or to block it as they have it already. Trillions are at stake, and that idea of 'money'....is just one of the minor aspects. The money is nothing, it's a tool, a lever, a method of controlling things --nothing more. A greasy lever and manipulation tool, in the tool kit. The wiping out of entire countries is definitely ON THE TABLE. If that is the final solution it takes to block it, then that is what would happen. They would overrun an entire country, if necessary.

I'm not sure you understand the forces you are up against.

On one hand, we need people out there, in the public, dealing with this head on and in the public eye. To get the message OUT. So, ignorance is a blessing here, as then the word is spread around. Foot soldiers in a parade, marching off the cliff of doom and failure.

At the same time, we need serious efforts that are more clandestine, more sure of themselves, more secretive, and more widespread among people who understand that working with the system (science, physics, academia, media, etc) that is in place, is doomed to failure, as it has been failure, hundreds of times in hundreds of cases.

These things are not abstract idealism, to me. These are hard, known facts, based in viewing the field for decades, watching the flow, and slowly building up knowledge of what is really going on.

I'm talking about understanding that the idea and the technology was real, when I was 18 years old (started looking when I was 13 or so), and then 'interviewing' the subject, and watching it closely..compiling data and collating, researching...for ....+32 years.

If one wants to get possibly killed, but most definitely discredited, and torn down... then they can go ahead and be a foot-soldier in the strictly public face of this 'thing'. But that person will fail. They will be turned down and turned off via every possible method of control and integration with their boundaries and connections in life. The heat will be turned up slowly but as surely as the sun shines. No effort will be spared to make sure that happens, as it has in the hundreds of cases that came before.

One can do some small things quietly, but full scale free energy, in the public eye? No. it has to be slow, widespread, quiet, and as a takeover of the inside track. There will be no Teslas, no Einsteins, no big public heros in this war.

it is a dirty war, a quiet war, a severe war, of the most vicious, brutal, and conniving kind.

[Carmody]

Let me put it to you folks this way.

If a universe, or reality, or space-time, or timeline..is made up of....if it originates from a universal multidimensional system of consciousness as organized energies (the only way that consciousness can emerge)...if that is the case. IF..a bunch of monks/cows/humans, in this 'local space-reality matrix, if those monks meditate and change the crime rate in an area (the Washington DC experiment, one data point in tens of thousands)..... if a group of cows/people as food, created cows, made cows....IF they hold the local reality together, via mediation..in this case, their DUALITY of mind, the deeper parts being the cow, the small intellectual bit on top, the part that keeps trying to emerge as the universe ALWAYS moves toward consciousness...

What if all those 'people' (whatever the hell people are -only valid in their own context) that hold the reality matrix timeline...what if they all go 'mad' (insane') at the same time?

So we have these multidimensionals, incarnating through a matrix window, in a particular dimensional matrix/timeline of manifold potentials..but they are here as a form of support for the avatar (localized relevant to itself meat/window) and to learn...what if those windows of meat, solidity, linear time and 3d time-space (local reality as a window) and creation, all go mad/clear in self realization, at the same time?

Get it done, yes.....but..easy does it.

And if you begin to understand what I'm saying here, then 90% or more of what goes on in your head -as your head, and thus in this reality space, is pure distracted drivel of the worst kind.

At play in the fields of a given reality time-space matrix-window..... nothing more.

[Strat]

I believe it's nonsense to say they'll be fighting their own 'mental block'. People who say that usually have no experience with the scientific method. How and why would you fail just because pesky, sceptical scientists want to ask questions?

The thing is, scientists will be the first to admit that they don't have all the answers about what they study. Neil Tyson joked about this once, "Yeah, it's like we're all sitting back in our chairs with our feet up say, 'we got all the answers!."

Scientists get snarky with non-scientific types because that's how people are. It's like reverse jock bullying or something. People don't get it's not that jocks bully the weak; they push each other around and meet tough competition. When the little guy gets in the way then he needs to know to 'recognize.'

This is what scientists do constantly in debates where there is no clear answer. They get annoyed when someone who can't read a schematic or work a meter is trying to explain QEG to them (or whatever). It's frickin annoying, the explanation is swiss cheese (full of holes), so ya get big leagued. The smart reply would be to admit you don't know what you're talking about, clear your mind and find a solution. Find the answer.

Why?




When will Oxfam be able to buy these devices and light up African villages? By this summer? Christmas? Next spring? We need to know...


That's why.

[Carmody]

One of the things that folks don't seem to understand is that when you seek total freedom and total open worlds... the psychology and the reality is that you will run up against an equal and opposite force. Things always balance out.

In this case, it would be going up against something akin to total death and total slavery. Risk and reward, they balance out.

So this is not just you putting your feet up and not paying for electricity anymore, this branches out like a lightning strike into everything. Everything changes.

Are you finally ready for that?

[Nick Matkin]

Unfortunately, talk of 'freedom', 'psychology' and 'open worlds' will not keep the lights on. For that we need to see the proof, the measurements and how the measurements were made. Maybe even proof of the calibrated equipment used to make the measurements. Then we may believe it.

Science my be hard, uncomfortable and for some people difficult to understand, but it's science that will keep the lights on, using conventional technology or some as-yet unfathomable over-unity device.

If an over-unity device were put in front of you would you know know how to measure its performance - even in the most basic way? This is important. Really it is. Without measurements and proof it's just another scam.

My only reservation is that it would be pointless faking it because anyone trying to follow their plans (which appear to be incomplete) to make a QEG would be unsuccessful. Anyone doing that would be pretty pissed off and hardly likely to keep quiet about it. So it's either true, or they don't know their volts from their amps from their watts.

I doubt they are that incompetent, so it MUST be true. In that case how many on PA (or anywhere else) have built one and got it working? Come on now... speak up...

Nick

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
I know everyone is anticipating success but when success does not come we are left with the facts:

This was just posted on www.overunity.com today. Unfortunately it's the only results that have been posted as of late.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #665 on: Today at 04:22:30 PM »
Sorry, to burst all your hopes,
but I just heard yeasterday regarding the QEG measurements in Morroco , that Gerhard Roessler, a German electrical engineer has just measured :

500 Watts input power from the drive motor and only 120 Watts maximal output power at the lamps...

so no overunity and no selfrunning...

it seems the claimed "raw power" of Mr. Robitaille was either measurement errors or a
lie to make lots of money with donations...too bad...

Regards, Stefan."

You can check it out yourself at :
link:
http://www.overunity.com/14443/quant...msg401033/#new

chancy

[Nick Matkin]

Well I'm disappointed but not surprised. That's an efficiency of 24%. Worse than most motors or even petrol engines. Seems to be confirmed by this from David Ike's site:

http://libraryofalexandria1979.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/the-depths-of-the-new-age-deception-co-opted-awareness/

So... how long will it be before some one here tells us it's all disinformation (which of course it may be), or tells us that the whole QEG project was an elaborate ploy to discredit the 'free energy' brigade?

Seems no one here managed to get one working from their open-source plans...

Nick

[Hughe]

They have to explain how they measured the motor's input energy first, which removes confusion. Assuming input energy of the free-running motor is 500W and output energy is 120W, the device's total output energy is 620W from the resonance. It means it's Free Energy device. But if the motor gets electric energy from other external source, it's a fake device.

If the QEG generator's COP is 20% at most, to produce 10kW output energy, they need to build a bigger unit 84 times bigger than present unit. It will literally removes feasibility right away.
$7,000 x 84 = $588,000 for 10kW power generator.
(10kW = 10,000W, 10,000W is divided by 120W gives 83.3333)

[Eligos]

Folks, this is it (drum roll) we have OVERUNITY!!!
http://youtu.be/oJkNruMM6tE

[Eligos]

Over-Unity and the QEG 18 May 2014 18:27 #1644
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I, like millions of other people around the world, read the announcement of the open sourcing of a free energy device back in march with a little skepticism, (I’ve been banging on for quite some time that inventors should just ’put it out there’ rather than try and make themselves rich with their invention, and yet here it and I was still skeptical... go figure) but I have been following its progress with mounting excitement, wishing that I could be a part of this historic venture and no sooner than I got back to base I was. A package of test equipment needed to be taken over to Morocco and it was thought that the courier needed to be someone who could provide a little assistance to Jamie Robitaille the developer of the Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) and next thing I knew I was a plane to Morocco

I arrived in Tangiers, expecting to be met at the airport by a Moroccan friend of Youssef, the QEG team’s "Fixer", I couldnt say that I was looking forward to a two hour trip with a man that I had no hope of communicating with, although, being met in Tangiers airport by a Moroccan driver holding a sign that read "Mr. Starbuck" would have been cool.

I had skillfully negotiated the surly looking gendarmes and their associates that looked for all intents and purposes like secret police, (not so skillfully, in hindsight, now that I know that I apparently look like a Moroccan) but now, with the exit gate a mere arms length away, I was halted by a border guard who seemed mildly interested to find out what was in the large instrument case I dragged behind me, filled with oscilloscopes, multimeters, high voltage probes and various other terrorist paraphernalia that would have whipped up American TSA agents into a frenzy and sent them scrambling for their tasers, rubber gloves and KY Jelly. Thankfully, I had been briefed on how to handle this situation, I was given the cover story that it was equipment for use in a humanitarian project to build a water pump to bring water to the impoverished village of Aoucham, and I felt confident that I could deliver a convincingly casual performance that would not arouse suspicion. The guard seemed so laid back that I probably could have said "Don’t worry mate, it’s just meters and ****" and he would have rolled his eyes and waved me through, but unfortunately the border guard began asking me questions in French and it was only then that I realised that my near fluent command of the French language, that I had enjoyed two decades earlier, had degenerated to the point where I could barely describe a monkey sitting in a tree (le singe est dans l’arbre... yeah baby I still got it )

I managed to explain through a combination of hand gestures and broken, schoolboy french that the case was sealed with metal tags that would require cutting off and that I had no hope of explaining what was in it and now the guard was starting to get agitated, his hand kept straying toward his radio and I began to wonder what life in a Moroccan prison would be like, but then I was saved, Jamie Robitalle himself and an american woman called Whitney (who spoke perfect French) had come to meet me at the airport, and even though, disappointingly, they were not carrying a "Mr. Starbuck" sign, they were able to have us quickly on our way.

Jamie is a humble, unassuming man with a seemingly perpetual smile and the gentle demeanour of a beloved maths teacher, and the three of us were engaged in easy conversation that evaporated our two hour journey to QEG headquarters, it was at this point that I learned that while the QEG had achieved resonance, it had not yet achieved over-unity, that is, it was still consuming more power than it generated. Even though my role was little more than a courier, I offered my services as Jamie’s assistant and silently stated my intention to see over-unity before I went home.

I arrived at "The Sanctuary" at 4:00am and a few hours later I was up and being introduced to the members of the community as an honoured guest, and since it was a Sunday there was not much work that would be done and so I found myself slipping into the easy flow of the community as I participated in their activities as if I’d always been a part of them.

The following day Jamie explained how he had approached Timothy Thrapp from the WITTS "Christian" Ministry who, despite their altruistic claims of releasing free energy to the world, demanded $400 for one hour of his time. Jamie was able to get a basic understanding of this replication of Tesla’s work, but it was clear that he was leaving out a lot of information and being intentionally vague about what he did share, and when Jamie compared notes with someone else, who had paid handsomely for the privilege, there were several contidictions. It also became obvious that the intent was to seduce customers into repeated "donations" to the Ministry. Moreover, when Thrapp learned of Jamie’s intent to open source the technology, relations between them became frosty.


Then I had my first live demo of the QEG, it was loud like an power router, and as it achieved reonance there was a harsh sounding rattle and it did indeed perform distinctly under unity, Jamie showed me his meticulous records of trials of varying rotor speeds and capacitance values and explained his hitherto failure to find a "sweet spot" combination.

The QEG was, at this point, working at unity, that is, it was producing the same amount of power as it was consuming, which in itself is an astounding achievement since the generators that supply our power now consume something in the region of 18 watts in order to generate 10 watts.

Later, Jamie began a new series of experiments with much larger arrays of capacitors and testing the location of a grounding wire. My assistance largely took the form of getting in the way and asking far too many questions.

On my third day working with the QEG, I was privileged to sit in on a Skype call between Jamie and a German team who are also developing a QEG, some data was exchanged and an accord was reached to have closer ties and regular catch up meetings.

By the fifth day Jamie’s dogged persistence had paid off, he ran a new sequence where the QEG would initially power the load of six 100 watt light bulbs, he would the add a solar array inverter (high voltage input) to the load and once it initialised he would disconnect the bulbs and the QEG would be running the inverter, unfortunately the badly regulated Moroccan mains power would alter the QEG output and send the inverter into a diagnostic mode, and on the rare occasion that we successfully ran the inverter we soon discovered that the new Earth configuration caused a ground fault condition and would trip the main breaker.
Eventually this new configuration was tried sucessfully with all the new test equipment I’d brought hooked up, oscilloscopes were oscillating, meters were metering and high voltage probes were probing, the input power meter was showing that the QEG was drawing 600 Watts, the output voltage was holding steady at 380 volts and the output current was peaking at just under 2.4 amps... Jamie began muttering about adjusting the values of the capacitor array, but then my maths skills, that are as sharp as wet spaghetti, kicked in it was outputting just under 900 watts.... in other words...OVER-UNITY!
Not an awful lot over but over-unity nonetheless; Jamie smiled and almost reluctantly agreed. I suggested that since the inverter was now capable of running the drive motor we should aim at having the QEG running in self powered mode, Jamie however, was far more cautious, but he wired up the changeover switch nonetheless.

On day six, Jamie had been in communication with a QEG team in Canada who had some interesting ideas regarding treating the primary winding as the secondary and drawing power from that winding instead, we studied the new schematics but they didn’t seem to make a lot of sense, but then we mused about the tecniques and methodology one might employ to hide a simple solution, stretching it out so that customers would keep coming back for more, but without making it seem like the customer was being tricked and bled dry and we agreed that switching the primary and secondary might well fit the bill, so Jamie set about rewiring the QEG.

Day seven, my last day. Jamie had been up late the previous night talking to the Canadian team and he wasn’t around by lunchtime, so I went to Oued Lou, the nearest town with a group from the community, but by the time I arrived back Jamie had already finished rewiring the QEG and was already reporting a significant voltage in the primary in the 1-1.5kv range, and was busy adding a bank of capacitors to the primary winding as per the Canadian design, we didnt have a variable resistor to place in series with the capacitor bank as the design specified but Jamie tried it anyway. The difference was immediately noticeable, the QEG began to resonate at a much lower RPM around 1625rpm, the loud jarring rattle that had characterised the QEG at resonance had been replaced by a gentle purring as it ran far more smoothly and easily than ever before.

The QEG was drawing 500 watts, the secondary was still powering its 600 watt load of light bulbs and yet on the primary side we were reading nearly 2000 volts at 1 amp. If I had gone by Jamie’s furrowed expression alone I might have missed the fact that he had just achieved serious over-unity 500 Watts in and 2000 Watts out... I had to rouse him from his deep contemplation of how to reach his target of 10Kw to remind him to celebrate the fact that he had actually achieved 2.6Kw... I managed to get a high five out of him before he resumed his tinkering.

The QEG achieves Over-Unity!!

At this point, about 1:30 am, members of the community, sensing that something of importance had occurred began to gather in the workshop, more were awakened to witness the event, a rousing round of applause went up for Jamie and we all tucked into Over-unity cake, baked specially for that moment.

So the next step will be to make the QEG self running from the secondary windings stepping down the voltage using a transformer from a high power microwave oven.

Breaking News: Hot off the press!!!I just spoke to Jamie and he mentioned that he has now achieved 3kW output, that’s six times over unity!

[Atlas]

Folks, this is it (drum roll) we have OVERUNITY!!!
http://youtu.be/oJkNruMM6tE


The next logical step from the QEG team is a retraction of the over unity claim made in the recently posted clip and an apology. If they don't do that then it will be the nail in the coffin for them with respect to their character, integrity, and motivation.

http://www.overunity.com/14443/quantum-energy-generator-qeg-open-sourced-by-hopegirl/1020/#.U3ngufmSySo

[Nick Matkin]

So, where are we now with this project? It seems to have gone quite after all the razzmatazz...

Wasn't Bill Ryan going to see if he could interview Hopegirl?

Any updates? I can't see anything specific on the 6 Aug Hopegirl blog about any hard-core technical developments.

Nick

[Nick Matkin]

Still nothing from the QEG team or HopeGirl.

What's happened to Over Unity? Why no interviews?

Nick

[Nick Matkin]

Hello Hope Girl.

What are the developments?

Nick

[Atlas]

Hi Nick,

Her latest video:

LF_XpCapmn0

[Bob]

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/pennsylvania-usa/615-james-robitaille-qeg-breakthrough


NB:This thread was posted in one of the Skype rooms, with the request from Hopegirl to share this with you on this forum:

[9:27:53 AM] worldimport24 (Alex): HOPE ! I make sure that who ever is typing your name , QEG or FTW in google will find out about your scam , misdeception and fraud you causing and still pushing for , it will be my pleassure to spend an other 10k to put together a team wich will make sure that everybody googles u up is informed and protected, !!!!!!! this will come straight back to you and bite you in your fat ass .....And that will be a REAL breakthrough !!!! PROMISE !!!!

[12:43:44 PM] Hope Moore: With attacks like this, the result is transparency. Alex (worldimport24) is a millionaire located in a lab in Shenzhen China. He assembled a team of engineers and free energy supporters to work on many different devices, including the QEG. I don’t know if he is an engineer himself or just a business man, however he was the main source of funding behind all of it. Recently his group of engineers got into a heated discussion where they spent a lot of time discussing the hierarchy of their team. (how much time was spent actually doing technical work to try to help others working on the QEG we’ll never know) Alex wanted to be CEO, others on the team felt this was too old paradigm and wanted to do it a different way. Apparently the team split up and they are not all working together anymore. Alex was upset because he couldn’t be CEO and decided to take it out on… me and the QEG.

It should be noted that I have never personally met Alex or had any conversations with him directly. So this comment, for me, seemed to come out of no where. I have met and spent time in person with several members of his old team on several occasions. All of them seem like intelligent nice people.

I will keep repeating this: it is the human behaviors of 1) Greed 2) Fear 3) Lies 4) Secrecy 5) Suppression that are the reasons why humanity has waited 130 years to have free energy. Not because it isn’t real, or it’s impossible. There are already devices out there that work, but they are not released to the public.

Our family has acted in the opposite way. We gave away the plans and opened this up for everyone to help us work on it. And we have already paid the price. We lost just about everything material: our car, our home, and a stable source of income, all for the sake of this project. We had to leave our country to move to Morocco because it is one of the few places where we can afford to support our entire family on roughly $1,000 a month. And even with these hardships, WE HAVE NEVER STOPPED WORKING ON THE QEG. Late nights, 16 hour days, 7 days a week for 11 months. That’s how much time we have put into working on the technology to figure it out so that every step of the way we can keep opensourcing it and giving away our findings to humanity. Just last week Jaime finally made a breakthrough that took him months to discover, and we opensourced that too. Because we know that what we are doing is the right thing to do, we have no fear, we communicate with god/creator/source on a daily basis and continue to ask for divine protection and guidance every step of the way.

I am not writing this as a response directly to Alex. I am writing this to all the others in this QEGCICU room. Our family will not stop working on this. We have the diligence to follow through, NO MATTER WHAT. Because we believe that this may be the only way that humanity is going to have free energy: if one group were selfless enough to just DO THE WORK AND GIVE IT AWAY. We’ve already tried all the other ways, the patents, the ownership, the greed, the ego battles. We’ve been doing that for 100 years. IT HASN’T WORKED.

In reference to Alex spending $10,000 to put together a team to ensure that everyone that types my name into google comes up with the word scam next to the QEG, it should be noted that the governments and the energy company’s have already beat you to it. Edward Snowden leaked documents that show proof in the form of actual power point slides from the internal training that they put their paid trolls through in order to discredit anyone on the internet that may do something to disrupt their power structure. I wrote a full report on it here if anyone cares to see the evidence of this fact for themselves.

hopegirl2012.wordpress.com (https://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/public-awareness-announcement-we-now-have-the-evidence-of-paid-government-trolls-targeting-the-online-reputation-of-bloggers-radio-show-hosts-and-other-positive-change-agents/)

FTW and HopeGirl instantly became the target of paid trolls when we opensourced the QEG. This includes trolls that lurk on Youtube, Energetics forum, Overunity.com, Mark Dancey, Tinsel Koala, the list goes on and on. The question we should all ask is: Are these the behaviors that are going to help humanity and bring through free energy? Or are these the behaviors that will continue to suppress it? Perhaps a better use for that $10K would be to find a good cause, like a village of people living in poverty with no water or electricity and use it there.

Alex isn’t the first to attack, and he won’t be the last. At this stage we will continue to do the work that we have been doing all along and will continue to make everything transparent as this is the remedy for the lies secrecy and suppression. We ask for your support and prayers while we tirelessly press on.

-Hope

-- hopegirl's link on trolls: https://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/public-awareness-announcement-we-now-have-the-evidence-of-paid-government-trolls-targeting-the-online-reputation-of-bloggers-radio-show-hosts-and-other-positive-change-agents/