Vidyadhara, sylphs, genii--jinn ...

[Kalamos]

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[Maunagarjana]

Isn't it time we stopped chaining ourselves to the misunderstandings of the past?

[Roisin]

Without any attempt to establish my creds on this topic, long before Rosemary Guiley came out with her first book on the djinn, I've always thought, on an instinctual and intuitive level that most ultra-terrestrials (J.Keels term) are the same type of intelligence that shape-shifts into those beings that fit and accommodate the culture and religious paradigm of the any given percipient. (John Keel and J. Vallee have written extensively on this type of "intelligence" )

Of course, it's not fashionable to assert something like that in any online venue that focuses on those kinds of topics that are discussed in a forum like this one. But having said this, I don't think we should call them the "djinn" and instead should come up with a new term for them that's more universal, comprehensive and contemporaneous than that term which is one that's too cultural specific.

"The Mimickers" is a good start but I'm sure there are still better ones out there.
The fact that they even exist suggests that there are a whole range of other types of other-dimensional entities and creatures. But the basic nature of the Djinn is as that of being, first and foremost, a shape-shifter where their native "state" is nothing but an amorphous plasma.

Their next 'state' are as shadow beings... shades.

From there they then simultaneously amp up their shape and density into any kind of entity or creature that serves their purpose at any given time.

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Here's R. Guiley's interview on her new book on the djinn. I don't agree with everything she's saying about those entities.... but in my book, she's close enough. I'm going to read her newest book on them today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a38VhHARVc

[PurpleLama]

"God bless the Fae
and God bless me"

[Shezbeth]

A decent summary of Djinn, though not entirely complete. Still, most of what is included is consistent with other material on the matter, and my experience does not contest the overwhelming majority. I would counsel her to add that what she describes as the Djinn 'always expecting something in return' is in observance that Djinn are contract-based entities, regardless of polarity. One should expect to provide equal consideration for any endeavor or activity in which there is mutual participation.

A good primer for individuals who are new(er) to the subject matter.

[minkton]

How do you get out of a contract with a djinn?

[Kalamos]

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[Kalamos]

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[Shezbeth]

How do you get out of a contract with a djinn?

And what will I receive in exchange for this information?

That question is both serious and silly. I don't really expect anything in exchange for this interaction, but one must recognize that any operant Djinn does and/or will. Terminating a contract - especially abruptly - is likely to engender bad blood and potential unforseeable conflicts.

The hardest part is recognizing, appreciating, and fully realizing the authority to do so. Djinn contracts are comparable to 'at will employment' where either the individual or the company can discontinue the agreement at any time, but one can't just say "You're fired" and have it stick, end of story. Recognizing the status and standing by which both parties are able/willing to contract is a good start. Recognizing one's sovereign rights and entitlements - as well as that of the operant counter-party - will help in identifying the particulars of revoking the contract.

Oh yes, one can do a blanket "You're all fired" scenario, but that's a good way to get one's tires slashed just when dealing with humans; Keep that in mind, as Djinn are far more resourceful, powerful, and (in most cases) clever.

So then, what context are you inquiring about? Are you asking about terminating all Djinn contracts and achieving total and lasting autonomy? Are you asking about dismissing one or more because they are either not fulfilling their part of the bargain to any degree of satisfaction or the circumstances have changed and one no longer require their services?

The crux of this is that regardless of how it is presented, or insinuated, the operant human is the boss, and their will can supercede. This is why many/most Djinn are want to engage in duplicity, as they cannot force a person to do anything (although they regard coersion as 'effective negotiation' in many/most cases).

Beyond 'final' authority, the biggest consideration IMO is respect. Whether a/the Djinn in question are 'happy' with the termination of the contract is less significant than how respectful the human is in handling it. Again utilizing the job-market metaphor, a gesture comparable to 'severence pay' could go a long way to ameliorate any discontent or dissatisfaction.

And really, I can't stress the job-metaphor enough, as it is a microscopic dynamic of the macroscopic dynamic I am addressing. The human is the boss, and finds that there are employees who have worked for them for a period of time (specific or non) who's services are no longer required. Additionally, the human may find that there are employees scamming the company. Further, the human may choose to disband the 'company' and work independently. Is the human hoping to maintain their business representation/contacts?

Right now I am asking YOU: How would/should the human go about any of the aforementioned, in a manner geared at 1. eliminating loopholes (i.e. a final and lasting act/decision/judgement) and 2. eliminating the potential for backlash/consequence (with 'legal' prejudice)?

Having some familiarity with the occult and metaphysics could help, as the Djinn are quite observant, aware, and responsive to metaphysical activity, though this could as easily get one into trouble if one doesn't comprehend the mechanics involved. Simply, if you don't know it already, don't start on these grounds.

As far as the actual practices, forms, etc. are concerned, that depends on the individual AND the entity. Just as every contract is different (with observable similarities), so every termination is different. The human must conclude for themselves what will be both sufficient and appropriate. My chosen method of operation does not prescribe to any known traditions and assumes a familiarity with certain forms and practices, so I will not advise along those lines without more detail.

Cameron Day posted an article some time back that doesn't exactly equate, but helps to illustrate the theory behind the act. http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/

A simplified proceedure is as follows:

1. Identification of the parties operant (the human and the counterparties) and the authority to adjudicate on the matter (in a legal sense, one is establishing power of attorney).
2. Identification of the nature (origin, progress, exchange, etc.) of the association, and a terminable declaration towards the association.
3. Specification of actionable consequences (that part can be tricky) in the event the termination is either not respected, or engenders reprisal.

Just as humans are not required to dispositionally respect an 'undesired' judgement against them, so Djinn may not be satisfied no matter how a person attempts to responsibly close the matter. Regardless their satisfaction however, if one does it right there is no choice but to comply.

[minkton]

Thankyou shezbeth. Say it like you mean it, and with integrity, and stand firm, then.

if one does it right there is no choice but to comply is a reassuring bottom line.

The lying, trickery, obfuscation, coercion all give way when human assertion of 'right is might' comes along, is it.

Good to know if one can retain sanity and muster will, that the decks can be cleared.

Thankyou for your powerfully convincing response.

[Shezbeth]

That is an accurate summary per my experience, but the issue of consequences deserves a bit more attention. Also, I do not recommend taking what I have expressed and 'running with it', rather I hope that anyone (if anyone) wanting to practically apply the methods I am describing would use my description as a starting point toward further research, development, and understanding. Simply - what I am offering is awareness, but it is comprehension that will lead to efficacy.

The reason I say 'that part can be tricky' is in recognition that there are actions, practices and methods that can produce discomfort, displeasure, pain(?) and dissatisfaction in the Djinn up to and including the motivation to leave. Examples exist in which Islamic practitioners (for example) are able to entice Djinn to leave by force (some examples in this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69395-Meditation-and-any-work-with-Chi-or-Prana-may-invite-possession-by-Jinn ). I am not advocating such methods (quite the opposite really), just using them to illustrate that it is possible and provide an avenue for further research.

My point is that, in some cases of Djinn contracts, one might find the entity willing/want to 'fight you for it' in a manner of speaking. There are cases in which force may be necessary, and in such cases it is good to have developed/acquired forms by which to express force. This can be bypassed by locating a sufficient practitioner, but is not the optimal method IMO; one will be seen as appealing to another to obtain authority (I.e. doesn't have the authority), as opposed to acquiring/realizing their own authority.

Also, I should point out that no matter how effectively one distances/dissociates themselves from negative/predatory/parasitic Djinn (and/or less heinous variety), one still lives in a world populated by individuals who haven't. To wit, removing them from one's immediate environment does not eliminate them from one's less than immediate environment and one will still have to deal with them through proxies, especially in the event that one's efforts to personally remove them results in a desire for reprisal. It is for this reason I suggest the 'severance pay' metaphor, but again I am advocating in opposition to known traditions, so one should be careful and self-assured in whatever action that is determined appropriate.

In short - one should be very careful/precise how one operates in the above capacity, as one could find themselves 'marked' by individuals who are susceptible to such entities.

Beyond that, it is important that behaviors that would 'call upon', 'incite interaction with', or otherwise 'utilize' a/the Djinn in question should be identified and eliminated from the behavior patterns of the individual in advance of emancipation. To not do so would be akin to filing a restraining order against a person(s) and then inviting them to poker night. Such behavior is certain to result in adverse consequences to the unwary.

To that end emancipation should occur at the conclusion of one's efforts, as opposed to the outset, in the interest of comprehensive efficacy.

[Sunny-side-up]

Written by Cameron Day from ascensionhelp.com, exposing the beings of false Light that have deceived spiritual followers, including the Ascended Masters and Galactic Federation of Light. How to break free from their influence and bring an end to their control of humanity.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_mfY7eSdqs



By: Cameron Day, on November 21st, 2013

It has been a while since I published a long article, and I have been working for many hours on this follow-up to the August article, Why I Am No Longer a Lightworker. That piece generated a lot of positive responses, as well as tremendous resistance and scorn from those within the New (c)Age movement who are heavily invested in the illusions of the false light.

I know that much of what I revealed in that article was difficult to accept, but I am committed to Truth, wherever it leads.

This article is going to pick up where the last one left off, so if you haven't already read the first part, please go read that first because the terms defined in Why I Am No Longer a Lightworker will be used here without any definitions.

The "Lords" of Karma
The false-light demiurgic parasites known as the "Lords" of Karma are perhaps the worst violators of free-will that I have encountered, second only to the corrupt demiurge itself. They are the primary gatekeepers that allow or deny beings access into and out of the demiurgic system, and as such, they must be exposed.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29m_Rhac9n4&src_vid=QHGxgMySEOA&feature=iv&annotation_id=channel%3A51e6fba8-0-2f28-9014-14dae9d24d5a[/url]

In the above to vid's by Cameron Day are some very well worked out procedures to follow, ways to regain your self and stop contract's!

http://ascensionhelp.com/

I once came face to face with a Djinn:

I was deep meditating in the wrong direction and found one such being/entity
I was stunned to see such a creature standing in front of me, stunned and dazed!
I suddenly realized the situation and rather immaturely spat in it's face to break the making of some new contract!


At the time it was my fastest reprisal action that I could muster!
I would act differently now though!

(I have come to see and realize that I suffered for many, many years after my immature and rude actions!)

IE I would not get into the position where I might be making a new contract,
after all there are to parties concerned! Keep mind and emotions under your own control, don't let others feed of and control them in the illegal, contract, hypnotized ways!

Just make sure your more awake than the others!
Just make sure your Awake and in contact with your heart and true higher self!

Love, Peace and Hugs
Alan