View Full Version : URGENT: 5.0 in YELLOWSTONE !
Camilo
30th March 2014, 15:43
March 30, 2014 -- (TRN) -- *** BREAKING NEWS *** A magnitude 5.0 earthquake has struck directly inside Yellowstone National Park possibly indicating a pending eruption of the Yellowstone SUPER volcano.
The earthquake took place at 8:34 AM eastern daylight time at a depth of 4.2 miles. The USGS report is HERE (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/uu60061837#summary). It was preceded by a Fore-shock of magnitude 3.0 about two hours earlier, around 6:30 AM eastern US time.
Massive harmonics from the quake have been recorded throughout ALL the seismometers within Yellowstone. Multiple after shocks are still occurring as the article is being live-updated. as of 11:03 AM, there have now been a total of SIX recorded earthquakes all in the same area in Yellowstone.
6 earthquakes in map area
3.1 32km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana 2014-03-30 11:07:49 UTC-04:00 6.6 km
2.5 33km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana 2014-03-30 09:56:40 UTC-04:00 7.7 km
3.1 34km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana 2014-03-30 09:30:52 UTC-04:00 4.5 km
4.8 37km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana 2014-03-30 08:34:39 UTC-04:00 6.8 km
3.0 35km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana 2014-03-30 06:36:25 UTC-04:00 1.6 km
2.8 36km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana 2014-03-30 02:23:48 UTC-04:00 1.5 km
http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/389-pat
Wind
30th March 2014, 15:47
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/uu60061837#summary
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/p640x640/10169258_708693092516451_786606476_n.jpg
Bob
30th March 2014, 15:49
http://quake.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Quakes/uu60062042.html
Recent Earthquakes in the Intermountain West
== PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE REPORT ==
University of Utah Seismograph Stations, Salt Lake City, Utah
Version #3:
This report supersedes any earlier reports of this event.
This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
A minor earthquake occurred at 9:12:24 AM (MDT) on Sunday, March 30, 2014.
The magnitude 3.3 event occurred 29 km (18 miles) S of Gardiner, MT.
The hypocentral depth is 6 km ( 4 miles).
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Magnitude 3.3 - local magnitude (Ml)
Time Sunday, March 30, 2014 at 9:12:24 AM (MDT)
Sunday, March 30, 2014 at 15:12:24 (UTC)
Distance from Gardiner, MT - 29 km (18 miles) S (181 degrees)
West Yellowstone, MT - 33 km (20 miles) ENE (67 degrees)
Island Park, ID - 58 km (36 miles) ENE (57 degrees)
Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT - 67 km (42 miles) WSW (247 degrees)
Salt Lake City, UT - 457 km (284 miles) NNE (12 degrees)
Coordinates 44 deg. 46.6 min. N (44.777N), 110 deg. 43.4 min. W (110.723W)
Depth 6 km (3.7 miles)
Location Quality Good
Location Quality Parameters Nst= 35, Nph= 35, Dmin=6 km, Rmss=0.37 sec, Erho=0.6 km, Erzz=1.2 km, Gp=68.4 degrees
Event ID# uu60062042
Additional Information map
Topo map centered at earthquake (This link takes you offsite (http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=44.7773&lon=-110.7232&s=100&size=s&u=1&sym=http://earthquakes.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/x.gif&symx=18&symy=19)).
http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Maps/Yellowstone.gif
Looking at the map closely, to "trip off a supervolcano event", the lake would have to have rapidly have its contents drop down into the magma dome below, and there have been two (2)very small quakes to the north and south of the lake. (see map above). Mt. St. Helens no doubt blew explosively from a massive steam release when the glacier melted above, dumping its contents into the magma dome.
The current minor quakes have been occurring quite far north - see below map
I've expanded the size of this map so one can see the locations.. The darker red/brown squigglies are the known fault zones in the area.
http://chanlo.com/images/yellow-1.jpg
Tesla_WTC_Solution
30th March 2014, 15:58
Yup here it is, hope it's just a small burp again and not the BIG BUUUROOOOOOM!
p.s. i wish ppl understood these cycles better!
it's like the "outer edge" of the plates was active last couple weeks,
now it's the "cratons" @@
Gerald Paris
30th March 2014, 15:59
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69753-Animals-Leaving-Yellowstone-What-Do-They-Know-We-Don--t-Know
any connection to this thread?
Dennis Leahy
30th March 2014, 16:01
Any "minor" release of energy from that super-volcano site is good news - I think. :~)
Dennis
Bob
30th March 2014, 16:16
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69753-Animals-Leaving-Yellowstone-What-Do-They-Know-We-Don--t-Know
any connection to this thread?
Interesting question - "animals leaving", "why". Living in the region, the animals do migrate constantly, quite far out of the park. I did "hear" feel the pre-shocks last nite about 11ish on this by the way. It reminded me of the Taos Hum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum). What caught my attention was my fridge started, creating a 60 and 120, and 180 Hz audio signal (the fridge tends to be loud when things are quiet), and the vibration coming in (very low frequency) started to modulate the "audible signals".. thereby the low frequencies from the pre-event were able to be clearly HEARD..
Camilo
30th March 2014, 16:18
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69753-Animals-Leaving-Yellowstone-What-Do-They-Know-We-Don--t-Know
any connection to this thread?
I would not doubt it at all. Animals sense/know about these events ahead of time.
Bob
30th March 2014, 16:28
History of the seismic area - (posts #1 and #3 above)
http://www.yellowstonegeographic.com/Geology/obsidian.htm
Obsidian Mountain/Cliff - "The geological story of the Obsidian Cliffs is one of a volcanic eruption, approximately 180,000 years ago. This eruption occurred quite a while after the catastrophic eruption and subsequent collapse of the Caldera.
"The composition of obsidian is approximately the same as granite, but its appearance is much different than that of granite. This is because in granite, the melted rock cools very slowly, and crystals of quartz, feldspar, and biotite are able to grow to a size that is visible to the naked eye. In obsidian, there are no visible crystals; in fact, there are no crystals at all."
This is what the terrain looks like where the quakes have been happening
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/yvo/images/20010520-srb-0124_large.jpg
UPDATE: http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_monitoring_47.html
From the USGS, the yellowstone monitoring station reports.. *see the link above for more data on the historic events for the last week happening here.. not just today's minor event
ALL events of any magnitude greater than 1.0 have occurred approx 30 miles to the N-NW of of the Yellowstone Caldera (see map below). The USGS says (paraphrasing) there has been hype recently of "activity" happening apparently due to a seismometer which has been malfunctioning. They have published the report map of the activity location, and the data from the last couple weeks. They feel nothing of any significance is happening.
http://chanlo.com/images/yellow-2.jpg
DATA:
MAG DATE LOCAL-TIME LAT LON DEPTH LOCATION
y/m/d h:m:s deg deg km
3.3 2014/03/30 09:12:24 44.777N 110.723W 6.0 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.1 2014/03/30 09:07:49 44.770N 110.720W 6.6 30 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.5 2014/03/30 07:56:40 44.770N 110.714W 7.7 30 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.1 2014/03/30 07:30:52 44.772N 110.698W 4.5 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
4.8 2014/03/30 06:34:39 44.778N 110.683W 6.8 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.0 2014/03/30 04:36:25 44.786N 110.690W 1.6 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.8 2014/03/30 00:23:48 44.785N 110.681W 1.5 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.5 2014/03/28 09:41:43 44.825N 110.781W 3.1 24 km (15 mi) SSW of Gardiner, MT
2.0 2014/03/28 05:37:16 44.839N 110.513W 7.1 27 km (17 mi) SE of Gardiner, MT
1.9 2014/03/26 18:58:40 44.808N 110.773W 4.3 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.2 2014/03/26 18:20:59 44.800N 110.772W 4.1 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.5 2014/03/26 18:11:57 44.821N 110.774W 2.0 24 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.0 2014/03/26 18:00:10 44.799N 110.774W 3.9 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.5 2014/03/26 17:59:00 44.801N 110.778W 4.5 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.0 2014/03/26 13:14:36 44.804N 110.772W 6.4 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.4 2014/03/24 12:06:51 44.246N 110.444W 3.6 70 km (43 mi) SE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.7 2014/03/24 05:21:37 44.778N 110.774W 7.5 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.1 2014/03/23 22:55:22 44.574N 110.410W 2.7 56 km (35 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
As a reality check, in a place we "believe" is stable, here is the current volcanic and seismic graphic from the Geological Institute in Ecuador - as you can see the whole country and region is plagued by frequent quakes, and 3 volcanoes listed as "active". The potential for a real supervolcano eruption in Ecuador is more real than Yellowstone, considering the volcanic event tracking from active volcanoes 56 miles away has been showing synchronous "events" over the last couple weeks.
The minor activity not even in the caldera, in Yellowstone is pale by comparison.
http://chanlo.com/images/ecuador-1.jpg
Monitoring the volcanic chain in Ecuador, Pan America, Alaska, Mexico, Colombia and Chile gives us a good understanding, I believe of the Solar/Earth particle interaction between the Coronal Holes and any CME's (Coronal Mass Ejections), which scientists have felt contribute to tectonic earth plate movement (heating and potential for eruption). We have 4 threads in News and Updates monitoring the 4 volcanoes.
Yellowstone can be monitored from the webpages listed in this post and post #3 above.
Ecuador Geologic Institute webpage: http://correo.igepn.edu.ec/
ED NOTE : reading below in post http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69961-URGENT-5.0-in-YELLOWSTONE--&p=816203&viewfull=1#post816203 below by Reader/Seeker, he mentions the hot spot (the lava dome heat source) is deep way deep.
It would be great to do a study to see if the very deep hot spots caloric potential heat energy increases during the Coronal Holes particle stream absorption or during a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection). Reader/Seeker, do you know of any other hotspots other than below yellowstone that can be monitored? You said Hawaii/Iceland? Do you have the webpages for the seismic heliographics or seismomenters, or other vibrational/tilt monitors? Those would be good for tracking solar/earth seismic/volcanic increase potential..
Tesla_WTC_Solution
30th March 2014, 17:34
Bobd that's super interesting about the heating and the radiation.
That's the same thing we were trying to talk about in the theoretical CERN thread,
where a PA user asked if "LHC devices could cause/worsen earthquakes".
We talked about "remote particle pumps" and "remote induction and excitation".
If a small "puff" from the sun, i.e. a flare, could cause a seismic event on earth,
how come people don't listen when kids say, "that machine looks dangerous" lol
Bob
30th March 2014, 17:47
Any "minor" release of energy from that super-volcano site is good news - I think. :~)
Dennis
I'm going to agree with Dennis on this one - reason being I have been watching the active erupting and seismically active region in Ecuador since early February - one volcano in particular, Reventador, see this seismic graphic here ---> http://correo.igepn.edu.ec/heli/heli/CONE_SHZ_EC_--.2014033000.gif (i won't post the image since it is not directly related to YellowStone's caldera).. What Reventador has been doing for the Northern Andes (Supervolcano system of Ecuador), is acting as the "relief valve" preventing any catastrophic super-event from happening.
The only method yellowstone currently has to relieve the temperature from the magma dome below is the from geysers and direct radiation into the sky from the soil, rivers and ponds.
see: http://www.cfc.umt.edu/CESU/Reports/NPS/USU/2005/05_08Neale_YELL_%20Thermal_journal%20article.pdf
Yellowstone currently daily radiates (called heat flux) 4-8 gigawatts per day, every day.
How many homes is that that can be run ? 4 million - 8 million homes a day can be run off the energy being LOST by Yellowstone's heat energy going off into the environment.
ref: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_homes_can_a_gigawatt_power
Seems to me the more sensible thing, instead of worrying about a 1-4.8 sized quake that happens every now and then, is to USE the waste heat, in essence bleeding off the magma heat potential (and fault fracture potential that may drain the lake) - I have discussed this solution numerous times in various Forum posts about when "yellowstone" shakes.. If people will please use the heat extraction to energy, it would be like Reventator's volcano in Ecuador, acting as the relief valve. Doing that no doubt could give the planet a chance from any supervolcano eruption at yellowstone..
seeker/reader
30th March 2014, 18:06
Yup here it is, hope it's just a small burp again and not the BIG BUUUROOOOOOM!
p.s. i wish ppl understood these cycles better!
it's like the "outer edge" of the plates was active last couple weeks,
now it's the "cratons" @@
The activity at Yellowstone is due to a hot spot which has no relation what so ever to plate tectonics. They can happen anywhere they rear their ugly heads. Whereas activity along plate boundaries is directly related to plate tectonics.
Hot spots that occur in the ocean (like Hawaii and Iceland) continuously erupt due to the crust in the ocean being relatively thin, 5-10 km. The hot spot has no problem punching through the thin oceanic crust and erupts easily.
Hot spots that occur under the continents however have very thick continental crust 30-50 km to try to break through. So as a result, they don't erupt as often.
However, in any case hot spots are theorized to have a continuous feeding from their source deep in the mantle.
Rocky_Shorz
30th March 2014, 18:10
the answers is use an alloy that creates energy from heat...
I would say we aren't too far away from driving a lead into the ground to plug in the world to natural energy.
New multiferroic alloy creates electricity from waste heat
Posted on June 22, 2011 by Anthony Watts
From the University of Minnesota via Eurkealert today, this looks interesting:
University of Minnesota engineering researchers discover source for generating ‘green’ electricity...
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/nfig002.jpg?w=640
Figure 2. Schematic (a) and actual (b) views of the demonstration. C, coil; R, heat source; S, specimen of Ni45Co5Mn40Sn10; M, permanent magnet with direction of magnetization indicated; T, thermocouple; V, voltmeter.
MIT has taken this even further over the last few years
it is the answer for creating coils for PMA generators producing energy from wasted heat...
the first wind generator I used on a car went through melt down from extremely high RPMs
Rocky_Shorz
30th March 2014, 18:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDyfuBVlAJ8&feature=player_detailpage
Bob
30th March 2014, 19:01
the answers is use an alloy that creates energy from heat...
I would say we aren't too far away from driving a lead into the ground to plug in the world to natural energy.
New multiferroic alloy creates electricity from waste heat
Posted on June 22, 2011 by Anthony Watts
From the University of Minnesota via Eurkealert today, this looks interesting:
University of Minnesota engineering researchers discover source for generating ‘green’ electricity...
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/nfig002.jpg?w=640
Figure 2. Schematic (a) and actual (b) views of the demonstration. C, coil; R, heat source; S, specimen of Ni45Co5Mn40Sn10; M, permanent magnet with direction of magnetization indicated; T, thermocouple; V, voltmeter.
MIT has taken this even further over the last few years
it is the answer for creating coils for PMA generators producing energy from wasted heat...
the first wind generator I used on a car went through melt down from extremely high RPMs
Using the heat from the Magma DOME (HOT SPOT) obviously makes more sense than worrying about seismic events in a seismically active region. There are patterns of when swarms indicate severe activity is evident..
Possibly a seismic expert would wish to enlighten the Forum on what those swarm patterns, (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_prediction, that includes a section about "animals leaving" too) would be including the significance of tilt/rise/collapse over X period of hours (or days, or minutes), regional activity increase or sudden decrease, change in Vp/Vs (velocity changes in seismic pressure wave and shear wave), angular orientation of shear waves with respect to the seismometers, if Radon emission increase has been noted, if "harmonic rebound" has been noted in the regional seismometers?
We had a brief discussion on the Indonesian volcanic eruption thread during February (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68464-Erupting-Volcano-of-Mount-Kelud-on-Java-island-Indonesia&p=797679&viewfull=1#post797679) where I was discussing Stratovolcanoes and there was a brief discussion about the Sumatran sleeping supervolcano as being worrisome. (Lake Toba is above the Sumatran supervolcano).
I believe the issue is if water massively hits the magma dome, or magma pocket or magma river (in a fault channel), and a strong expansive steam explosion happens, that is what will trigger a catastrophic event more so than trapped SO2 gases.
An expansive explosion needs the tools (water/steam) to expand with the magmatic heat. Melted rock under pressure will sit there, and the irradiative verses conductive verses excitation (heat flux input) into the system will determine if the system voids. If it can void through a crack (a pipe) it will if the pressure is there to do it.
Yellowstone does have the massive yellowstone lake over the magma dome in the caldera.
http://chanlo.com/images/yellow-1.jpg
In the graphics above there is one fault zone which does run under the lake, however there is no direct seismic activity there - there are 3 seismic monitors plus a tilt meter on that fault. Near that fault way outside of the caldera, to the SW of the southern most part of that fault is another fault which did have a small seismic event.
Tesseract
30th March 2014, 20:36
Graphed your earthquake data:
25408
Interesting how there are 4 sets of quakes roughly 2 days apart, growing in magnitude. Anyone want to pick the top of this trend?
DATA:
MAG DATE LOCAL-TIME LAT LON DEPTH LOCATION
y/m/d h:m:s deg deg km
3.3 2014/03/30 09:12:24 44.777N 110.723W 6.0 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.1 2014/03/30 09:07:49 44.770N 110.720W 6.6 30 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.5 2014/03/30 07:56:40 44.770N 110.714W 7.7 30 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.1 2014/03/30 07:30:52 44.772N 110.698W 4.5 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
4.8 2014/03/30 06:34:39 44.778N 110.683W 6.8 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.0 2014/03/30 04:36:25 44.786N 110.690W 1.6 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.8 2014/03/30 00:23:48 44.785N 110.681W 1.5 28 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
0.5 2014/03/28 09:41:43 44.825N 110.781W 3.1 24 km (15 mi) SSW of Gardiner, MT
2.0 2014/03/28 05:37:16 44.839N 110.513W 7.1 27 km (17 mi) SE of Gardiner, MT
1.9 2014/03/26 18:58:40 44.808N 110.773W 4.3 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.2 2014/03/26 18:20:59 44.800N 110.772W 4.1 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.5 2014/03/26 18:11:57 44.821N 110.774W 2.0 24 km (15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
2.0 2014/03/26 18:00:10 44.799N 110.774W 3.9 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.5 2014/03/26 17:59:00 44.801N 110.778W 4.5 27 km (17 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
3.0 2014/03/26 13:14:36 44.804N 110.772W 6.4 26 km (16 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.4 2014/03/24 12:06:51 44.246N 110.444W 3.6 70 km (43 mi) SE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.7 2014/03/24 05:21:37 44.778N 110.774W 7.5 29 km (18 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
1.1 2014/03/23 22:55:22 44.574N 110.410W 2.7 56 km (35 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
Bob
30th March 2014, 22:21
Thanks for the graphics plot :)
I'll post from Nov 2013 thru Mar 30th the seismic which was recorded in the Utah seismic network that includes yellowstone - was gonna work on a spread sheet for it too, maybe since you have the template already, possibly use what I'm going to post here below for a more detailed longer term trend..
Thing is one would need to localize the latitude longitude (a range search), then post just that range for the 5 month window. That should show an adequate trend or not regionally.. If global activity has been in-fact increasing, the overall graphics should show something.. Those dates then could be tracked against the solar electron and proton field graphs.
I used the search parameter of 2-9 magnitude for the table creation.. ref: http://www.ncedc.org/anss/catalog-search.html Advanced National Seismic System Catalog Search Feature
"Use the form below to search the ANSS global earthquake catalog"
Some nice historical map pages are at: http://www.ncedc.org/anss/maps/cnss-map.html
http://cc.amazingcounters.com/counter.php?i=3190880&c=9572953
http://chanlo.com/images/1 month Seismic-NCEDC_Search_Results.pdf
Fairy Friend
30th March 2014, 22:23
The plates move in all different directions. The mechanism is convection currents beneath into the liquid core more which makes some plates collide and others slide against each other and some pull away from each other. Dutchsinse is the one who clues into this and where the pressure is building or not.
Yellowstone buildup was on the watch list.
Convection currents are swirls in fluid beneath the crust more into the liquid core. We have a hot spinning liquid core of Iron and Nickle, heavy conductive metals, if I remember right, etc. The mechanism has been in play on earth long before man and this connection to the sun maybe fueling it. These swirls are bringing hot liquid up in spots and drawing or pulling down in others. This force can submerge or raise entire continents or melt them. One of the extinction level events in the past may have been where 3 of these swirls where going upwards in one area and melted most of India. They are actually very stable and do NOT change a lot. Why Iceland and Hawaii persist and it can be where a supervalcano is also like Iceland.
Bob
30th March 2014, 22:27
Graphed your earthquake data:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=25408&d=1396211747
Interesting how there are 4 sets of quakes roughly 2 days apart, growing in magnitude. Anyone want to pick the top of this trend?
[..]
The AR2017 sunspot x-ray flare Rocky was pointing out in the LA 4.8 thread had had at least one or two CME pulses which were "glancing" earth directed as predicted by NOAA to visit the Earth April 1st or 2nd. I would think based on the CME and Coronal Hole energy absorption theories, that one should see a spike in activity on those days, IF the energy is high enough from the CME.
picture reference to that event: http://spaceweather.com/images2014/29mar14/m9.jpg?PHPSESSID=sd5n6kolv95nuc70loanugppv2
The Website link I posted above for the NCEDC.ORG page (search catalog), would then have global events posted for those days. We shall see ..
Tesseract
31st March 2014, 02:26
Thing is one would need to localize the latitude longitude (a range search), then post just that range for the 5 month window. That should show an adequate trend or not regionally.. If global activity has been in-fact increasing, the overall graphics should show something.. Those dates then could be tracked against the solar electron and proton field graphs.
Thanks I'll take a shot at it, check back later.
Wind
31st March 2014, 02:48
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Tesseract
31st March 2014, 03:51
As per Bobd's suggestions, the below graphs show earthquakes at Yellowstone over the last year. The first graph shows a zone slightly broader than that covering the earthquakes that have been tabled and graphed in posts above this one.
The second graph narrows down to the real hot-spot that dominates in the above posted data. It certainly does seem as if that little area at Yellowstone is seeing increased activity (graph does not show the 4.8 (or 5.0?) from today - which would be the highest data point if it were plotted).
25424
Below is a map showing the region of the 2nd graph:
25425
And below is a graph of global earthquakes over the same period. The graph is not very useful, since it is close to being saturated with data points (i.e. every day registered an earthquake at every magnitude). Maybe someone can find a better graph online to represent activity over the last year.
25426
Not sure if any of this correlates with solar radiation events, maybe someone else can find that data. Another thing of interest might be the unloading of ice-sheets/glaciers.
The Truth Is In There
31st March 2014, 11:59
the animals detect increasing radiation. the normal gravitation/radiation ratio is upset due to the tectonic activity and this is what they feel. it's not a sound as much as an uncomfortable feeling in the brain stem - an alarm system if you will. humans can develop this, too, to a certain degree. since increased radiation is not good for most physical bodies the animals that can't deal with it leave. it would be smart if humans took note and did the same.
Nick Matkin
31st March 2014, 13:16
I thought I'd see what informed amateur seismologists were saying about Yellowstone right now.
So I looked in the Netweather community forum (http://forum.netweather.tv/) and wxforum.net amateur seismology forums to see if there was any informed forum chatter about unusual Yellowstone activity.
I read no undue anxiety expressed in any posts (unless the government mods cut them out!) and it seems swarms of minor quakes are quite common.
As a general point, I think it's always worth going to any amateur forum to see what those who understand and study the science have to say, be it pilots' forums to get informed discussion about MH370, or amateur astronomy forums to discover who has seen any "massive objects" in the solar system that NASA is covering up...
Nick
Bob
31st March 2014, 16:55
As per Bob's suggestions, the below graphs show earthquakes at Yellowstone over the last year.
The first graph shows a zone slightly broader than that covering the earthquakes that have been tabled and graphed in posts above this one.
[..]
The second graph narrows down to the real hot-spot that dominates in the above posted data. It certainly does seem as if that little area at Yellowstone is seeing increased activity (graph does not show the 4.8 (or 5.0?) from today - which would be the highest data point if it were plotted).
[..]
And below is a graph of global earthquakes over the same period. The graph is not very useful, since it is close to being saturated with data points (i.e. every day registered an earthquake at every magnitude). Maybe someone can find a better graph online to represent activity over the last year.
]..]
Not sure if any of this correlates with solar radiation events, maybe someone else can find that data. Another thing of interest might be the unloading of ice-sheets/glaciers.
Very good on these. I have filtering software that can average dataset's to remove noise using different thresholds. As-is I see some monthly cyclic patterns in the datasets - graph 1 top looks like a periodic cyclic peaking is happening, so following what is inducing a cyclic peaking would be interesting.
OK, On those dates then, someone working on the Solar Activity sub-forum :) who has access to the graphics of solar proton/electron and CME graphics can check these dates:
Seismic activity:
April 2013 (max peaks)
August 2013 (minimum peaks)
September 2013 (max peaks)
January 2014 (minimum interspersed with a high "noise?" spike)
March 30 2014 (max peaks interspersed with very low "noise?" spikes)
** April 1(late)-3 2014 should be checked to see if there is any activity, or if end of March marked the cyclic periodicity.
thank you :) Tesseract for your work on the graphing
(Thank you Nick for confirming the armchair seismologists agree, nothing to see happening despite the hoopla for a 4.8 appearing greater than the lower level constant "noise" there)
Also Tesseract, I think the last graphic is useful too, as there are patterns present in the graphic, doing a smoothing and putting a trace-line on the "peaks" would drop off the "noise" from the other data points. The months with highest peaks should be able to be tracked back to solar proton/electron flux and CME peaks on certain days/months..
With "peaks" they do need averaging for computing "total energy averaged over time".. Sorta like in this case, if one is frying an egg, it takes sustained time to get the desired effect.. briefly turning up the "energy" (the burner) for a fraction of a second does not speed up substantially the "end result".. Sustained peaks in energy would speed it up, but there would have to be a LOT of peaks closely spaced to deal with the "averaging". The substantial MASS in the rock, the depth and all the mass in the way of any hot-spot, or tectonic plate slippage region shows a LOT of energy has to get there and deal with being scattered and dissipated.
The Coronal Holes (when happening) are projecting with constant particle masses earth directed. Is that modulating the magnetic field, ionosphere, creating "magnetic heating" from oscillations? I don't have that data. I think this is where some good thought processes could come in to look at such a heating mechanism.
We've seen X-Ray flares will induce (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosphere ) sudden ionospheric disturbances (SID):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Ionosphere_Layers_en.svg/375px-Ionosphere_Layers_en.svg.png
"When the Sun is active, strong solar flares can occur that will hit the sunlit side of Earth with hard X-rays.
"The X-rays will penetrate to the D-region, releasing electrons that will rapidly increase absorption, causing a High Frequency (3 - 30 MHz) radio blackout.
"During this time Very Low Frequency (3 – 30 kHz) signals will be reflected by the D layer instead of the E layer, where the increased atmospheric density will usually increase the absorption of the wave and thus dampen it. As soon as the X-rays end, the sudden ionospheric disturbance (SID) or radio black-out ends as the electrons in the D-region recombine rapidly and signal strengths return to normal."
This D Layer interruption the previous day caused a brief radio blackout. There was no direct correlation to an earthquakes happening when the spike hit.
More research could be conducted on these topics to see if there is a tie-in with the earthquake/seismic activity I believe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetospheric_electric_convection_field - magnetosphere electric convection field - this talks about high current fields present in the ionosphere. With a two conductor system, where there is oscillation, a moving field in one conductor will induce current in the other conductor (this is like a type of transformer action).. here is a picture of a simple type of "induction heater"
http://ktrmurali.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/how-induction-cooking-works.gif
The oscillating magnetic field (and oscillating currents) in the ionosphere layers, like currents a "wire", then could induce heating in the other (virtual) "wire", the earth as shown here:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~mtag/mt-basics1-engl.jpg
A lot more possible to discuss on the science of field coupling, but maybe for this thread thinking we should keep the science simple.
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