Bill Clinton: ET Invasion Could Unite the World

[Roisin]

Bill Clinton says alien invasion could unite the world

During an interview on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" Wednesday night, former President Bill Clinton said when aliens invade, he hopes it's not like "Independence Day."

Clinton told Kimmel that while in office, he examined the Roswell and Area 51 files and confirmed we aren't hiding any extraterrestrial life there. But refuses to rule out the existence of alien life forms.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PNttGg-z84

"I'm trying to tell you I don't know, but if were visited someday, I wouldn't be surprised. I just hope that it is not like 'Independence Day,' " Clinton said.

But he says an alien invasion may not be a terrible thing.

"That may be the only way to unite this incredibly divided world of ours. They are out there — we better think of how all the difference among people on earth would seem small if we felt threatened by a space invader. That is the whole theory of 'Independence Day.' "

http://politics.suntimes.com/article/washington/bill-clinton-says-alien-invasion-could-unite-world/thu-04032014-818am

[Cidersomerset]

Nice try Bill and good set up about all the new planets being found, and a nice
homage to Ron at the end....

Ag44dRO8LEA


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The problem with Bill is he is tarnished and his denial
of finding out about UFO's was not convincing imo..

Just like.....




I did not find
any Aliens at Area 51


https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2249729280/hB2C15D72/

[doodah]

Good grief. More Illuminati gloom speak. Why must we be invaded? Why must something very bad be put out there as a thoughtform? Does he think there are no good ways to unite us? Without positive imagination, there is a void that the negative can fill.

[linksplatinum]

Well, well, well... Would you look at that. Is this the Cabals way of coming out into the open as to their "Alien Invasion" false flag that has been discussed just recently? Just be sure you guys remember that WE DO NOT NEED SAVING FROM ANYONE OR ANYTHING. See my post of the Fake White Lighters, aka The Galactic Federation of Lizards (Light) that Tanaath forewarned us of in her most recent post. I will add this link to this post here shortly as a reference so those who aren't aware of this culling tactic, you'll know how to respond to this sort of attack...

[Ahnung-quay]

Notice the quotes above. He is double-talking. First he says he doesn't know whether or not they're out there then he says "they're out there"..
Is this a scenario (Independence Day type conflict) that TPTW are trying to get us used to? Are they planning a massive smoke and mirrors event for us?
Food for thought.

[Roisin]

He's being coy. His sophmorish/ naive Jethro-ish reply to Kimmels question is a clear indication that he knows a heck of a lot more than we do on the subject of UFOs and ET's. Thanks Bill, for being so transparent!

[RamblingRebel]

Is it just me or did he look to be hiding something when he was asked if he knew aliens was there would he tell us?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I hate the territorialism that humans practice.
Even though the Native tribes did have wars sometimes,
they didn't have the same concept of "ownership" (we've all seen Pocahontas, right? lol) that "modern" people do, and old worlders.

What if aliens came to visit and didn't even understand our concept of "ownership", "property"?
What if our attempts to trade with them fail, because they are offended?

I'd be more worried about first impressions than whether a "fleet of hostile UFOs" shows up on 4/4/14 (God Damn Bill Clinton lol).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_4

I guess I'm still too worried about the EARTHLY problems that might center on 4/14/14 (passover!)
Bobd's Bloodmoon thread was very interesting.

In terms of the heavens humans invent 100x as much trouble as any spaceship could bring.

[linksplatinum]

NEW TANAATH UPDATE: The Demiurge, the 'Light' and the Silver Legion The Demiurge, the 'Light' and the Silver Legion by Tanaath on 03/27/14

http://www.silverlegion.org/Updates-and-Changelog.html

I saw Cameron Day's article 'Why I Am No Longer A Lightworker' shortly after it came out, and loved it. I also really loved his article 'Tell the “Lords” of Karma That You Are Sovereign – No Longer a Lightworker Part 2'. If you haven't yet read them, I suggest you go do that now. They're great. They echo some of the things that I and others have been saying all along about hierarchy and control.

The dichotomy between 'Light' and 'Dark' as presented in the pageantry of the Demiurge is a false construct. This planet has had a paradigm of hierarchy and control shoved upon it. We've been given two false choices between being hierarchical 'bad guys', or being hierarchical 'good guys'. Both are ultimately bad guys, because they are predicated on the notion that there is always someone above you who must be obeyed. Often, this ultimate figure which 'must be obeyed' is represented to you as 'god'. Sometimes the adherents to the paradigm try to claim it's actually Source. WRONG.

The fact that this duality is a false construct does not mean that there aren't objectively bad beings and the Demiurge and its forces shouldn't be opposed. All parts of the Demiurge are bad, and definitely should be opposed. Even their false 'Light' side.

Various spiritual and extra-dimensional actors have been a part of this system of control. This includes a lot of ETs that have presented themselves to you as saviours and figures of power. This includes 'archangels' operating within spiritual hierarchies of angels, 'ascended masters', or anything else that claims to be part of any hierarchy. This includes a lot of the critters that are channeled, and pretty much anything out of any religious institution ever – with a few exceptions. There's been a lot of power and effort invested in building, maintaining, growing, and expanding this system of control, and there's a lot of beings involved in the project. None of them are your friends. None of them want anything good for you. What they want is your obedience and for you to feed their machine. Don't do it.

If anything should come to you claiming to be your saviour, tell it to get lost. There are no saviours, because the act of being a 'saviour' presupposes the loss of agency and sovereignty of the 'saved'. We are obligated to act on our own behalf and not to wait around for someone else to do it for us.

If anything should come to you claiming to be set above you in any way, tell it to get lost. This includes beings claiming to be relatives or servants of 'God' or claiming to be 'God'; beings claiming to be divinely ordained, assigned, ordered, mandated, and the like as an authority figure; or beings claiming to be more intelligent, powerful, wiser, more 'evolved', and the like.

If anything should come to you demanding your obedience, tell it to get lost. The only things that demand obedience are things in service to the Demiurge. Even Source does not demand obedience.

If anything should come to you claiming that it is higher dimensional and therefor has a right to do anything to you, tell it to get lost. Nothing has that right. And you have a right to defend yourself against anything that tries.

If anything should come to you and tell or demand you to follow an alleged contract or previous agreement, tell it to get lost (after you tear up/rescind the contract). Many of these supposed contracts were done under false pretences, for the purposes of enslaving you. You have the right to reject them and to refuse to be held to any of them.

If anything should come to you and attempt to dictate your identity to you, tell it to get lost. Your identity is your business and nothing and no one has the right to define it for you. You are the only arbiter of your identity. You, and you alone get to decide who and what you are. Likewise, you don't get to decide someone else's identity for them.

Source requires nothing of you other than your best attempt to live according to your free will. Source will never issue edicts, demand obedience, put someone else above you, order you or anyone else around, or send 'special servants' to rule over you and tell you what to do. Anyone making that claim is not coming from Source but from the paradigm of control. From the Demiurge.

Source does not speak like a voice in your head. Source communicates to us through synchronicity and that 'aha moment' when we have a sudden awareness or realization of something that we didn't realize before, even if all the pieces were there. Source uses 'coincidence' to provide to us the information we need to succeed or to become involved. Sometimes we're aware of the touch of Source, sometimes we aren't. It's a really cool feeling when you become aware of it.

Additionally, Source does not act directly upon creation, as if it did, it would become partisan and thus cease to be all things and thus cease to be Source. Source cannot personify without that personification ceasing to be Source. A Source is defined as all things and thus cannot be only one thing.

Source interacts with creation through actors. That is, us. Any given one of us can be made aware of a need through synchronicity or coincidence and can choose to answer that 'invitation from Source' to act. It's a free will choice, and if we refuse, the choice will be offered to someone else who can do the work until it gets done. We are all Source inasmuch as we are part of all things, and Source can act through us, but that does not give us authority, or dominance over any other aspect of creation.

Yes, there are beings with a great deal of personal power. This still doesn't give them any right to put themselves above any other being. There are gods (note the small 'g'). Beings like Thor, Odin, Apollo, Athena, Shiva, Pele, etc., exist. They're very powerful beings and some of the oldest in creation. But they are not part of a hierarchy above you and they do not deserve your worship. They deserve the same consideration you would give any other living thing, and as intelligent actors deserve respect according to their actions (which might be no respect at all in some cases). There are also angels, of various kinds. Consider the gods to be the 'firstborn of the universe' and angels to be the 'secondborn of the universe' –just like an older sibling, they might be a bit bigger and stronger than you, but it does not mean they are better than you (and some of you might very well be one of them – yes, they incarnate too). Nor do they deserve automatic obedience or worship. Yes, some have gone rogue and joined into the paradigm of domination and control, but many gods and angels are still free and are anarchic –without rulers. If you should encounter one of these, treat them as an equal. They have no more right to rule over you than a pile of gravel does. Reject any god or angel which tries to place itself above you.

Yes, dimensions exist and they are layered. They are also not a hierarchy. Just because we here might be 3D doesn't mean someone who is 4D or 6D or 12D is better than us. They might have more personal power, will almost certainly be older than our current body, and maybe have retained a bit of wisdom from memories that are denied us... but they are not better than us. They are not above us in terms of controlling us or having any right to decide our fate or future. Dimensions are densities of existence, not hierarchies of achievement and power. Think of it this way, if you have several coloured liquids of different densities and you pour them into a clear glass, they will settle into a nice little rainbow. The top slice is not smarter, better, more deserving, more evolved, or naturally deserving of rulership over the slices below it. It's just a slice of a different density. Nor are the slices at the bottom stupid, weak, or deserving of any kind of slavery or hardship because of their position within densities.

Yes, we are all one, inasmuch as we are all part of creation and creation is Source. However, this is not a race to dissolution. It's possible to be one with everything and retain your personal identity, personality, and perceptions. That's the whole point of existing as a separate entity. Don't be in a rush to become nothing. Evolution does not mean the dissolution of self. It means learning more things and having different experiences. Nor are you required to like all of your fellow creations. You're still welcome to disagree with others. What you are not allowed to do is attempt to force others to do what you think is best regardless of their will. Those who attempt to remove or curtail the free will of other beings en masse, lose the right to existence themselves; and they are fair game for all the beings who want to remove them.

Laws are creations of societies. Some are more closely aligned with naturally living than others, but they are all creations of societies. That means they can be changed, and that means that they can be chosen. Source does not make laws. Those things claimed to be “God's Laws” don't come from Source. Yeah, they include some good ideas, but they're still not from Source. We will likely require some form of law in our society yet; until sociopathy no longer exists and people no longer feel the need to commit crimes against one another to attain an advantage over each other, we'll need some codified system of reparation and restoration. However, we need to divorce the notion of justice from the notion of obedience to an external entity. The two are not synonymous. These varying sets of laws handed to us by various “God” figures will always contain reasonable things like 'don't steal, don't rape, don't lie, don't murder'. There's no problems with that. The problems arise when they try to sneak in stuff that isn't related, that reinforces the system of control and rule. The fact that they have some good ideas doesn't mean they have any other validity. Nor does any religion have a monopoly on the good ideas. All human societies have come up with variations of the good stuff. We don't get our morality from 'God'. We get it from understanding that some actions harm others and realizing that we're not ok with that as a society and as individuals.

The Silver Legion is not part of the Demiurge's false dichotomy. We are actually anarchists. Anarchy doesn't mean destructive chaos or every-man-for-himself. It means 'without rule'. We do not have rulers. Every Silver Legionnaire, regardless of rank or position within our organization, is equal. There's gods and angels in the Silver Legion, and you'll find them chumming around with everyone else; telling stories, playing pranks, enjoying food and drink; and socializing just like everyone else. They don't get any special placement or special consideration. They're just as quick to lend a hand and help out as anyone else. Our 'ranks' are only indication of the level of responsibility of an individual, not of their authority to make demands of others. Most people in the Legion want to be part of the 'rank and file', because that's where all the actual fun happens – all the action. The joke about 'promotions' is that the promoted individuals didn't step back fast enough when the call came. The leadership is largely involved in coordination and administration (not ruling), though they're certainly not averse to personally kicking some ass when required.

Because we are not part of the false dichotomy, we don't classify ourselves personally as 'Light' or 'Dark'. I've largely used the term 'Lightwarrior' to describe us as it's easily understood, and because 'warrior' alone has too many connotations that don't fit what we are. In actuality we don't subscribe to the dichotomy. About 95% of our people are people who prefer to do things that help others –Service to Others. Not 'good', not 'Light', just folk who are motivated to help others rather than seeking to satisfy their own desires (or whose desires primarily include helping others). About 4% are 'neutrals', they just don't care one way or another. And about 1% are Service to Self. Not 'Dark', not 'evil', just motivated by self-interest. They're all welcome and they all have a place. The Service to Self guys can sometimes get places and do things that the Service to Others guys can't, mostly because they'd stick out like a sore thumb. We're able to offer the Service to Self types something they consider to be fair in exchange. Most of them would stick with us simply because they get treated with respect and they can do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt someone else. We don't judge them. They're welcome with us as long as they agree to follow the codes of behaviour and ethics that we require of all our Legionnaires.

We actually have a kind of 'idiot test' for new recruits. There's a few people in our ranks who are from 'evil' species. They're pretty typically selfish for their race. They're also highly visible. New recruits are told not to harm other Silver Legionnaires. The ones who fixate on these supposed 'evil' races and attempt to harm them fail our test. The first time they try it, they get a lecture in the infirmary (after being healed or brought back to life as necessary) on not judging others despite whatever preconceived notions they may have of the goodness or evilness of that person. They get a lecture on tolerance and how there's not only room but need for many types of people in the Silver Legion. If they try it again, we kick them out. The same goes for Service to Self recruits that decide to try to abuse others in the Legion or outside of it. They get the lecture first, and if they persist after that, they're out.

The people I work with in the Silver Legion, and the ETs I work with, have in their actions demonstrated themselves to be honest, committed, respectful, and ethical. Incarnates and other Terrans are considered to be equal to anyone else; we may have a more limited perspective and be suffering under a lot of adverse programming, but we're still considered people deserving of basic respect. They don't claim to be better than me, wiser than me, smarter than me, more deserving than me, or of anyone else. They make no bones about the fact that they're fallible and able to make mistakes. When they make mistakes, when they find out, they take actions to rectify the situation and they own up to their errors.

No one ever 'orders' me to do anything, nor do they ever do anything to me, with or without my consent. If they want to help me, they'll wait for me to ask them for help, then they'll tell me what they want to do and why; and if I choose to accept it, I can unchoose it if I am not comfortable, and if I don't accept it they won't argue with me. They give advice when asked, but don't try to force me to take it. They also ask my advice sometimes. It's an equal partnership. It is not a relationship predicated on notions of superiority/inferiority, or control, or obedience, etc., it's a relationship predicated on love, respect, and equality. They don't judge me or others, even if they don't agree. And they have a sense of humour. They're able to laugh at themselves, to laugh at the absurdity of life, tell jokes, and tease and prank each other without harming one another. They're quite capable of finding the same things funny that we do. And they never get insulted or assume the position of the superior.

When I do my work at night, I assign myself missions. I've often woken up energized and buzzing, unless I've gotten myself into trouble, or unless I've had a bad night due to physical reasons (I suffer from sleep apnea and have been an insomniac all my life, and as has been mentioned before, I have a thyroid problem which directly affects my energy levels). No one orders me to do stuff. I choose myself what I'm going to do, according to what I feel needs to be done. I usually do the ass kicking, but I have on occasion had my ass kicked as well, which can lead to me waking up feeling like warmed over roadkill. These episodes happen less and less as I get more adept at knowing when to stir the **** and when to back off.

I often have doubts. Doubts are healthy. Doubts indicate that someone is capable of thinking critically and examining something; demonstrating that they don't take information for granted or as automatically true just because it comes from a source they like. I am extremely leery of someone who never questions, because they are ripe for control. I have found that my people have, time and time again, demonstrated their integrity and ethics in their dealings with me and other people. I don't know everything and I still question everything, but I truly feel that I can rely on my people to the very end. If we should fail, it won't be because we did not make the effort.

[Cidersomerset]

This title is misleading, he denies Roswell but does say that he would not
be the first president denied access to 'Top secret ' knowledge and does
explain his general view on the 'heavens' a bit better. Richard Dolan
has said the PTB did not trust Bill Clinton with this type of information
and he is not unique among recent Presidents. Grant Cameron also
gives his view on the vid below. The Rockefeller initiative is also
mentioned at the end, when he wrote to Bill asking whether ET's
were real or not. This sounds more of a cover than an actual plea
for disclosure imo.


President Bill Clinton Speaks Out On Aliens and UFO Disclosure

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Published on 12 Aug 2013

[Ahnung-quay]

DangerWill Robinson, danger, danger, danger; b.s. detector going off. Relax robots! Randy Quaid will save us!

[linksplatinum]

I smell Bullsh*t all over this one for sure... Fargin Iceholes!

[Cidersomerset]

Richard Dolan - "The UFO Cover-Up in 10 Minutes"

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Published on 25 Feb 2014


Ronald Reagan was obsessed with UFOs and experienced at least two sightings of
aliens, and we discuss them with Richard Dolan. Reagan's time as governor and .

Ronald Reagan was obsessed with UFOs and experienced at least two sightings of
aliens, and we discuss them with Richard Dolan. Reagan's time as governor and .

MJ12, the truth behind the ultra-top level UFO and Alien intelligentsia established
by President Truman, the stacks of sensitive documents on Alien and UFO .

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EXOPOLITICAL DISCLOSURE: Deathbed Testimony About UFOs Given By Former CIA Official!

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Like Bob Dean who worked at S H A E F in the 1960's many former military
whistle blowers have tried to expose the truth. Most would not say anything
in public for fear of ridicule , or did not have physical proof like documents
or photos/vids. But many would just keep quite not to break their military oaths
and did not want negative publicity or worse to happen to their families.

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Published on 3 Aug 2013


Military Disclosure: US Army Command Sergeant Major Robert Dean Breaks His
Security Oath And Discusses A Study Done To Find Answers About The Ufo's
Orbiting Our Planet.

Robert Dean (ret) spent twenty-seven years of active duty in the US Army where
he retired as Command Sergeant Major. He also served in Intelligence Field
Operations and was stationed at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe
(SHAPE), the military arm of NATO. His Cosmic Top Secret clearance opened the
way for his study of the Assessment.

[Matt P]

Bill is a professional liar and this is no different, as many of you have already said. I'm surprised there is a debate about it. He IS lying.
That vegan diet is treating him well, though. And keeping tan for all the ladies. ;-)

[The Castellan]

Was not Clinton forced to sign a bill that made Area 51 immune to all legal action, searches and pretty much anything made against it before he left office....pretty much a chastisement against him for trying to find both answers for alien life and Kennedy's killing, since he was both genuinely interested in those topics?

Also, why is anything mentioned about aliens always seeming linked to invasions? Enough fear porn, already.


Peaceful alien contact will unite the world far, far better, says I.

[Wind]

And he is still the husband of this crazy woman!

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[Maia Gabrial]

I wish they'd stop saying WHEN there's an alien invasion. They're already here! They didn't even have to lift a finger either. Why do you think our world is so effed up?

And why is that traitor, Billy boy still running around free? Arrest his *ss!

[sirdipswitch]

linksplatinum!! Hey bud!! Right on the money!! I do agree whole heartedly, that is untill the part explaining about Silver Legion, and then it goes into the very type of control, that the previous section warns "against"!

As to ETs' coming here I will say that which I always say: "If they come in ships, don't trust them."

WE... already have the ability to return... to the
"Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order", that WE TRULY are, and need fear ... "NOTHING"!!! NOTHING... And as such, need not listen to anyone coming here telling us how we need to be. Even the Silver Legion! yep. And we don't need "ships', to go any little ol place our silly little hearts should choose to go. Anything you can "think" to do... anywhere you can "think" to go... YOU CAN... yep.

When "any"... comes to "understand" that which I have already explained on my thread, they will not only understand who I AM, what I AM... but more importantly... WHO THEY ARE, and WHAT THEY ARE.

But... as I have become painfully aware, there are so very few, on this forum... who have understanding. yep.

[The Castellan]

I wish they'd stop saying WHEN there's an alien invasion. They're already here! They didn't even have to lift a finger either. Why do you think our world is so effed up?

And why is that traitor, Billy boy still running around free? Arrest his *ss!

Personally, I say the reason the world is so messed up is not because of aliens, but because of HUMANS.....greedy, selfish, humans. Am I the only one who does NOT see humanity as some innocent, pure and noble species? I'm more willing to point fingers of blame to the stupid apes, and not the aliens.

[Dennis Leahy]

... a "fleet of hostile UFOs" shows up on 4/4/14 ...
NO aliens will "invade" on my 60th birthday! If any ET/ED folks show up, it's because I invited them to my birthday party - and because they have heard about my guacamole. :~)

Fear not, friends!

Dennis

[The Castellan]

linksplatinum!! Hey bud!! Right on the money!! I do agree whole heartedly, that is untill the part explaining about Silver Legion, and then it goes into the very type of control, that the previous section warns "against"!

As to ETs' coming here I will say that which I always say: "If they come in ships, don't trust them."

WE... already have the ability to return... to the
"Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order", that WE TRULY are, and need fear ... "NOTHING"!!! NOTHING... And as such, need not listen to anyone coming here telling us how we need to be. Even the Silver Legion! yep. And we don't need "ships', to go any little ol place our silly little hearts should choose to go. Anything you can "think" to do... anywhere you can "think" to go... YOU CAN... yep.

When "any"... comes to "understand" that which I have already explained on my thread, they will not only understand who I AM, what I AM... but more importantly... WHO THEY ARE, and WHAT THEY ARE.

But... as I have become painfully aware, there are so very few, on this forum... who have understanding. yep.


The smeg is wrong with ships?

Sorry, but I think of going to other worlds all the time, don't see anything happening, still here. And I don't care for 'mental' travel, or astral projection or whatever where even if you DO show up someplace, you end up returning to your room again. Big, fat whoop.


And I like the idea of traveling on board a slick, fancy starship. Just because a straight line is the shortest distance between two points, or teleporting might be the quickest way, does not mean they the most interesting ones.

[Star Tsar]

Just out of interest has anyone read this book (Are We Alone? by Paul Davies) Hillary was carrying whilst with Laurence Rockefeller?

Or even better have a pdf version? :eyebrows:

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[Tyy1907]

linksplatinum!! Hey bud!! Right on the money!! I do agree whole heartedly, that is untill the part explaining about Silver Legion, and then it goes into the very type of control, that the previous section warns "against"!

As to ETs' coming here I will say that which I always say: "If they come in ships, don't trust them."

WE... already have the ability to return... to the
"Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order", that WE TRULY are, and need fear ... "NOTHING"!!! NOTHING... And as such, need not listen to anyone coming here telling us how we need to be. Even the Silver Legion! yep. And we don't need "ships', to go any little ol place our silly little hearts should choose to go. Anything you can "think" to do... anywhere you can "think" to go... YOU CAN... yep.

When "any"... comes to "understand" that which I have already explained on my thread, they will not only understand who I AM, what I AM... but more importantly... WHO THEY ARE, and WHAT THEY ARE.

But... as I have become painfully aware, there are so very few, on this forum... who have understanding. yep.

How do you feel Tanaath contradicts herself?

[andrewgreen]

The time will certainly come in the near future where we run out of "Orwel's' invisible enemies on our own planet, especially with Russia gaining greater influence in the Media and a perceived moral image advantage.

[T Smith]

Bill Clinton says alien invasion could unite the world

During an interview on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" Wednesday night, former President Bill Clinton said when aliens invade, he hopes it's not like "Independence Day."

Clinton told Kimmel that while in office, he examined the Roswell and Area 51 files and confirmed we aren't hiding any extraterrestrial life there. But refuses to rule out the existence of alien life forms.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PNttGg-z84

"I'm trying to tell you I don't know, but if were visited someday, I wouldn't be surprised. I just hope that it is not like 'Independence Day,' " Clinton said.

But he says an alien invasion may not be a terrible thing.

"That may be the only way to unite this incredibly divided world of ours. They are out there — we better think of how all the difference among people on earth would seem small if we felt threatened by a space invader. That is the whole theory of 'Independence Day.' "

http://politics.suntimes.com/article/washington/bill-clinton-says-alien-invasion-could-unite-world/thu-04032014-818am

Hmmm... Almost echoes exactly what Ronald Reagan said in his UN speech.

He was also a much more convincing liar (imo) when he was President.

[Tyy1907]

Well it could even be that the personality he was in in this interview thought this to be true (the area 51 having no aliens that is)

[ghostrider]

I wish they'd stop saying WHEN there's an alien invasion. They're already here! They didn't even have to lift a finger either. Why do you think our world is so effed up?

And why is that traitor, Billy boy still running around free? Arrest his *ss!

Personally, I say the reason the world is so messed up is not because of aliens, but because of HUMANS.....greedy, selfish, humans. Am I the only one who does NOT see humanity as some innocent, pure and noble species? I'm more willing to point fingers of blame to the stupid apes, and not the aliens.

yeah , the thoughts and actions of earth humans has set the stage for suffering and hard lessons ... nature will balance everything out and we won't like how she does it ... but must needs be ...

[Ellisa]

Actually I think Bill is right. It would unite the world against a 'common enemy'. We humans are always more united and easier to control when we are scared for the future, and creating the fear and maintaining it is a favourite trick of politicians everywhere. It is of course entirely possible (well, as possible as the alien visitors), that they could come in peace rather than in search of edible novelties. But would we ever know, or recognise our visitors. We'd be too busy blowing their heads off.

But Bill is right. We'd be united!

[ghostrider]

Unite the world ??? ehumm ET even at 8,000 years ahead of us in technology , only found peace and liberty as a united federation only 13,000 years ago ... until then they fought everyone , everywhere , and every time they came to earth it was a bloodbath, for power and control , and their giant stautes and giant cities , hell they destroyed an entire galaxy ...they are not enlightened like you think ... they observe us slaughtering each other and could stop it but , allow us to control our own fate ... just as they had to learn how to achieve peace ... could you stand by and watch two people kill each other if you had awesome power to stop them ??? you could stop them but , they would find a way to fight again until they changed the way they think on their own ...

[Maia Gabrial]

Personally, I say the reason the world is so messed up is not because of aliens, but because of HUMANS.....greedy, selfish, humans. Am I the only one who does NOT see humanity as some innocent, pure and noble species? I'm more willing to point fingers of blame to the stupid apes, and not the aliens.

Hey Castellan! Have you considered the facts that every person on the planet is implanted with Archontic implants and other alien implants for control over humanity? Or that psychopaths perform satanic rituals, calling forth the demonic entities from other realms that possess the weak minded? It's a serious problem.

I don't think it's as simple as saying humanity is totally to blame for what's happening. There are times when I ALMOST say yes to them being totally greedy and selfish. But then inner knowing tells me that most people are NOT that way. If you accept the exaggerated or fabricated lies lamestream medias (or the so called experts) put out there, then of course, you'll think humanity is a lost cause. If your focus is only on negativity, then that's all you'll see. We're not all negative.....Ask yourself if YOU are greedy and selfish? Do you include yourself in this?

We ARE a noble race, just not perfect one.

[The Castellan]

Hold it, I don't even listen to anything mainstream, what I am stating is this.

All the lunatics, screwballs and psychos are as they are because they are lunatics, screwballs and psychos. And those doing devil worshiping, it's not my duty to judge that. If someone wants to say hi to Lucifer, then go right ahead, no different than other religious beliefs. Hell, the stuff the Roman Catholic Church had committed in the past 1,000 years.....the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the witch hunts of both Europe and Salem (which I both call the woman's holocaust), the Ku Klux Klan, and so on alone makes ole' Lucifer look like a kitten in comparison quite often. I simply say that a lunatic is a lunatic simply because he is a lunatic. Same with the Industrial Military Complex, merely a bunch of lunatics who have access to advanced technology, guns and have a legion of high school flunkies at their command.

And as for myself, as I stated, I don't even feel like that of a human. I have almost what one could call a burning of the blood to get off the Earth, the sooner the better.

And some nobility.....a species who treats their homeland no better than a toilet, who despite bitching about their government still listens to their government, still using an overrated mineral slime and dirty ass black rocks for energy, and so-called official 'space travel/exploration' consists of nothing but low earth orbit for the past 30 odd years. You'll forgive me if I don't melt into a puddle of appreciation regarding the 'noble' orangutans called homo sapiens.


And as for Clinton, I think he's telling us about aliens without telling us. I doubt Clinton wanted to end up like his hero, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and end up eating lead, so he's pretty much giving it between the lines, as it were.

[Agape]

This title is misleading, he denies Roswell but does say that he would not
be the first president denied access to 'Top secret ' knowledge and does
explain his general view on the 'heavens' a bit better. Richard Dolan
has said the PTB did not trust Bill Clinton with this type of information
and he is not unique among recent Presidents. Grant Cameron also
gives his view on the vid below. The Rockefeller initiative is also
mentioned at the end, when he wrote to Bill asking whether ET's
were real or not. This sounds more of a cover than an actual plea
for disclosure imo.


President Bill Clinton Speaks Out On Aliens and UFO Disclosure

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Published on 12 Aug 2013


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It does not look very fortunate for our times ... and I hope I'm actually wrong .. but listen to the numbers . These people obviously like their 'predictable science' and going according to 'the book',
so this kind of prediction has been made about 20-30 years of development of technologies that will enable them to track , recognise or establish open communication with ET intelligences - they hope ;)

What has happened or not ..may bear no relevance on their current ability to track signals and establish valid communication with off world visitors .
I'm convinced that many of Air Force and Navy equipments and personnel actually do get occasional signs and signals of 'visitors' but they are covering the disability rather than ability to make sentient contact with them .

Military technologies may be years ahead of what is generally available to public usage but there's lots of competition in the R&D communities globally and there's always someone who will get the same idea, once it is workable one .


You can tell these people personally .. whatever .. they will only repeat ''we are not getting it '' .

[sirdipswitch]

linksplatinum!! Hey bud!! Right on the money!! I do agree whole heartedly, that is untill the part explaining about Silver Legion, and then it goes into the very type of control, that the previous section warns "against"!

As to ETs' coming here I will say that which I always say: "If they come in ships, don't trust them."

WE... already have the ability to return... to the
"Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order", that WE TRULY are, and need fear ... "NOTHING"!!! NOTHING... And as such, need not listen to anyone coming here telling us how we need to be. Even the Silver Legion! yep. And we don't need "ships', to go any little ol place our silly little hearts should choose to go. Anything you can "think" to do... anywhere you can "think" to go... YOU CAN... yep.

When "any"... comes to "understand" that which I have already explained on my thread, they will not only understand who I AM, what I AM... but more importantly... WHO THEY ARE, and WHAT THEY ARE.

But... as I have become painfully aware, there are so very few, on this forum... who have understanding. yep.

How do you feel Tanaath contradicts herself?


I don't normally repost an entire lengthy post such as this, but, since you asked, it will help, in explanation of that which I said about it. Check the bold parts. cc.

"NEW TANAATH UPDATE: The Demiurge, the 'Light' and the Silver Legion The Demiurge, the 'Light' and the Silver Legion by Tanaath on 03/27/14

http://www.silverlegion.org/Updates-and-Changelog.html

I saw Cameron Day's article 'Why I Am No Longer A Lightworker' shortly after it came out, and loved it. I also really loved his article 'Tell the “Lords” of Karma That You Are Sovereign – No Longer a Lightworker Part 2'. If you haven't yet read them, I suggest you go do that now. They're great. They echo some of the things that I and others have been saying all along about hierarchy and control.

The dichotomy between 'Light' and 'Dark' as presented in the pageantry of the Demiurge is a false construct. This planet has had a paradigm of hierarchy and control shoved upon it. We've been given two false choices between being hierarchical 'bad guys', or being hierarchical 'good guys'. Both are ultimately bad guys, because they are predicated on the notion that there is always someone above you who must be obeyed. Often, this ultimate figure which 'must be obeyed' is represented to you as 'god'. Sometimes the adherents to the paradigm try to claim it's actually Source. WRONG.

The fact that this duality is a false construct does not mean that there aren't objectively bad beings and the Demiurge and its forces shouldn't be opposed. All parts of the Demiurge are bad, and definitely should be opposed. Even their false 'Light' side.

Various spiritual and extra-dimensional actors have been a part of this system of control. This includes a lot of ETs that have presented themselves to you as saviours and figures of power. This includes 'archangels' operating within spiritual hierarchies of angels, 'ascended masters', or anything else that claims to be part of any hierarchy. This includes a lot of the critters that are channeled, and pretty much anything out of any religious institution ever – with a few exceptions. There's been a lot of power and effort invested in building, maintaining, growing, and expanding this system of control, and there's a lot of beings involved in the project. None of them are your friends. None of them want anything good for you. What they want is your obedience and for you to feed their machine. Don't do it.

If anything should come to you claiming to be your saviour, tell it to get lost. There are no saviours, because the act of being a 'saviour' presupposes the loss of agency and sovereignty of the 'saved'. We are obligated to act on our own behalf and not to wait around for someone else to do it for us.

If anything should come to you claiming to be set above you in any way, tell it to get lost. This includes beings claiming to be relatives or servants of 'God' or claiming to be 'God'; beings claiming to be divinely ordained, assigned, ordered, mandated, and the like as an authority figure; or beings claiming to be more intelligent, powerful, wiser, more 'evolved', and the like.

If anything should come to you demanding your obedience, tell it to get lost. The only things that demand obedience are things in service to the Demiurge. Even Source does not demand obedience.

If anything should come to you claiming that it is higher dimensional and therefor has a right to do anything to you, tell it to get lost. Nothing has that right. And you have a right to defend yourself against anything that tries.

If anything should come to you and tell or demand you to follow an alleged contract or previous agreement, tell it to get lost (after you tear up/rescind the contract). Many of these supposed contracts were done under false pretences, for the purposes of enslaving you. You have the right to reject them and to refuse to be held to any of them.

If anything should come to you and attempt to dictate your identity to you, tell it to get lost. Your identity is your business and nothing and no one has the right to define it for you. You are the only arbiter of your identity. You, and you alone get to decide who and what you are. Likewise, you don't get to decide someone else's identity for them.

Source requires nothing of you other than your best attempt to live according to your free will. Source will never issue edicts, demand obedience, put someone else above you, order you or anyone else around, or send 'special servants' to rule over you and tell you what to do. Anyone making that claim is not coming from Source but from the paradigm of control. From the Demiurge.

Source does not speak like a voice in your head. Source communicates to us through synchronicity and that 'aha moment' when we have a sudden awareness or realization of something that we didn't realize before, even if all the pieces were there. Source uses 'coincidence' to provide to us the information we need to succeed or to become involved. Sometimes we're aware of the touch of Source, sometimes we aren't. It's a really cool feeling when you become aware of it.

Additionally, Source does not act directly upon creation, as if it did, it would become partisan and thus cease to be all things and thus cease to be Source. Source cannot personify without that personification ceasing to be Source. A Source is defined as all things and thus cannot be only one thing.

Source interacts with creation through actors. That is, us. Any given one of us can be made aware of a need through synchronicity or coincidence and can choose to answer that 'invitation from Source' to act. It's a free will choice, and if we refuse, the choice will be offered to someone else who can do the work until it gets done. We are all Source inasmuch as we are part of all things, and Source can act through us, but that does not give us authority, or dominance over any other aspect of creation.

Yes, there are beings with a great deal of personal power. This still doesn't give them any right to put themselves above any other being. There are gods (note the small 'g'). Beings like Thor, Odin, Apollo, Athena, Shiva, Pele, etc., exist. They're very powerful beings and some of the oldest in creation. But they are not part of a hierarchy above you and they do not deserve your worship. They deserve the same consideration you would give any other living thing, and as intelligent actors deserve respect according to their actions (which might be no respect at all in some cases). There are also angels, of various kinds. Consider the gods to be the 'firstborn of the universe' and angels to be the 'secondborn of the universe' –just like an older sibling, they might be a bit bigger and stronger than you, but it does not mean they are better than you (and some of you might very well be one of them – yes, they incarnate too). Nor do they deserve automatic obedience or worship. Yes, some have gone rogue and joined into the paradigm of domination and control, but many gods and angels are still free and are anarchic –without rulers. If you should encounter one of these, treat them as an equal. They have no more right to rule over you than a pile of gravel does. Reject any god or angel which tries to place itself above you.

Yes, dimensions exist and they are layered. They are also not a hierarchy. Just because we here might be 3D doesn't mean someone who is 4D or 6D or 12D is better than us. They might have more personal power, will almost certainly be older than our current body, and maybe have retained a bit of wisdom from memories that are denied us... but they are not better than us. They are not above us in terms of controlling us or having any right to decide our fate or future. Dimensions are densities of existence, not hierarchies of achievement and power. Think of it this way, if you have several coloured liquids of different densities and you pour them into a clear glass, they will settle into a nice little rainbow. The top slice is not smarter, better, more deserving, more evolved, or naturally deserving of rulership over the slices below it. It's just a slice of a different density. Nor are the slices at the bottom stupid, weak, or deserving of any kind of slavery or hardship because of their position within densities.

Yes, we are all one, inasmuch as we are all part of creation and creation is Source. However, this is not a race to dissolution. It's possible to be one with everything and retain your personal identity, personality, and perceptions. That's the whole point of existing as a separate entity. Don't be in a rush to become nothing. Evolution does not mean the dissolution of self. It means learning more things and having different experiences. Nor are you required to like all of your fellow creations. You're still welcome to disagree with others. What you are not allowed to do is attempt to force others to do what you think is best regardless of their will. Those who attempt to remove or curtail the free will of other beings en masse, lose the right to existence themselves; and they are fair game for all the beings who want to remove them.

Laws are creations of societies. Some are more closely aligned with naturally living than others, but they are all creations of societies. That means they can be changed, and that means that they can be chosen. Source does not make laws. Those things claimed to be “God's Laws” don't come from Source. Yeah, they include some good ideas, but they're still not from Source. We will likely require some form of law in our society yet; until sociopathy no longer exists and people no longer feel the need to commit crimes against one another to attain an advantage over each other, we'll need some codified system of reparation and restoration. However, we need to divorce the notion of justice from the notion of obedience to an external entity. The two are not synonymous. These varying sets of laws handed to us by various “God” figures will always contain reasonable things like 'don't steal, don't rape, don't lie, don't murder'. There's no problems with that. The problems arise when they try to sneak in stuff that isn't related, that reinforces the system of control and rule. The fact that they have some good ideas doesn't mean they have any other validity. Nor does any religion have a monopoly on the good ideas. All human societies have come up with variations of the good stuff. We don't get our morality from 'God'. We get it from understanding that some actions harm others and realizing that we're not ok with that as a society and as individuals.

The Silver Legion is not part of the Demiurge's false dichotomy. We are actually anarchists. Anarchy doesn't mean destructive chaos or every-man-for-himself. It means 'without rule'. We do not have rulers. Every Silver Legionnaire, regardless of rank or position within our organization, is equal. There's gods and angels in the Silver Legion, and you'll find them chumming around with everyone else; telling stories, playing pranks, enjoying food and drink; and socializing just like everyone else. They don't get any special placement or special consideration. They're just as quick to lend a hand and help out as anyone else. Our 'ranks' are only indication of the level of responsibility of an individual, not of their authority to make demands of others. Most people in the Legion want to be part of the 'rank and file', because that's where all the actual fun happens – all the action. The joke about 'promotions' is that the promoted individuals didn't step back fast enough when the call came. The leadership is largely involved in coordination and administration (not ruling), though they're certainly not averse to personally kicking some ass when required.

Because we are not part of the false dichotomy, we don't classify ourselves personally as 'Light' or 'Dark'. I've largely used the term 'Lightwarrior' to describe us as it's easily understood, and because 'warrior' alone has too many connotations that don't fit what we are. In actuality we don't subscribe to the dichotomy. About 95% of our people are people who prefer to do things that help others –Service to Others. Not 'good', not 'Light', just folk who are motivated to help others rather than seeking to satisfy their own desires (or whose desires primarily include helping others). About 4% are 'neutrals', they just don't care one way or another. And about 1% are Service to Self. Not 'Dark', not 'evil', just motivated by self-interest. They're all welcome and they all have a place. The Service to Self guys can sometimes get places and do things that the Service to Others guys can't, mostly because they'd stick out like a sore thumb. We're able to offer the Service to Self types something they consider to be fair in exchange. Most of them would stick with us simply because they get treated with respect and they can do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt someone else. We don't judge them. They're welcome with us as long as they agree to follow the codes of behaviour and ethics that we require of all our Legionnaires.

We actually have a kind of 'idiot test' for new recruits. There's a few people in our ranks who are from 'evil' species. They're pretty typically selfish for their race. They're also highly visible. New recruits are told not to harm other Silver Legionnaires. The ones who fixate on these supposed 'evil' races and attempt to harm them fail our test. The first time they try it, they get a lecture in the infirmary (after being healed or brought back to life as necessary) on not judging others despite whatever preconceived notions they may have of the goodness or evilness of that person. They get a lecture on tolerance and how there's not only room but need for many types of people in the Silver Legion. If they try it again, we kick them out. The same goes for Service to Self recruits that decide to try to abuse others in the Legion or outside of it. They get the lecture first, and if they persist after that, they're out.
The people I work with in the Silver Legion, and the ETs I work with, have in their actions demonstrated themselves to be honest, committed, respectful, and ethical. Incarnates and other Terrans are considered to be equal to anyone else; we may have a more limited perspective and be suffering under a lot of adverse programming, but we're still considered people deserving of basic respect. They don't claim to be better than me, wiser than me, smarter than me, more deserving than me, or of anyone else. They make no bones about the fact that they're fallible and able to make mistakes. When they make mistakes, when they find out, they take actions to rectify the situation and they own up to their errors.

No one ever 'orders' me to do anything, nor do they ever do anything to me, with or without my consent. If they want to help me, they'll wait for me to ask them for help, then they'll tell me what they want to do and why; and if I choose to accept it, I can unchoose it if I am not comfortable, and if I don't accept it they won't argue with me. They give advice when asked, but don't try to force me to take it. They also ask my advice sometimes. It's an equal partnership. It is not a relationship predicated on notions of superiority/inferiority, or control, or obedience, etc., it's a relationship predicated on love, respect, and equality. They don't judge me or others, even if they don't agree. And they have a sense of humour. They're able to laugh at themselves, to laugh at the absurdity of life, tell jokes, and tease and prank each other without harming one another. They're quite capable of finding the same things funny that we do. And they never get insulted or assume the position of the superior.

When I do my work at night, I assign myself missions. I've often woken up energized and buzzing, unless I've gotten myself into trouble, or unless I've had a bad night due to physical reasons (I suffer from sleep apnea and have been an insomniac all my life, and as has been mentioned before, I have a thyroid problem which directly affects my energy levels). No one orders me to do stuff. I choose myself what I'm going to do, according to what I feel needs to be done. I usually do the ass kicking, but I have on occasion had my ass kicked as well, which can lead to me waking up feeling like warmed over roadkill. These episodes happen less and less as I get more adept at knowing when to stir the **** and when to back off.

I often have doubts. Doubts are healthy. Doubts indicate that someone is capable of thinking critically and examining something; demonstrating that they don't take information for granted or as automatically true just because it comes from a source they like. I am extremely leery of someone who never questions, because they are ripe for control. I have found that my people have, time and time again, demonstrated their integrity and ethics in their dealings with me and other people. I don't know everything and I still question everything, but I truly feel that I can rely on my people to the very end. If we should fail, it won't be because we did not make the effort."


Source, does not force rules upon us. Those that pretend they are above us, do. Seems the "Legion", imposes rules also.

Free will, is free will. There are no limits. The Legion places limits on accepted behavior. Or you get "kicked out".

Control is control, is control, in whatever form it comes in.

Source doesn't care. IT, just sits there and Loves us unconditionally, no matter what we do. People just can't wrap their tiny little minds around that, and so put limits on , "everything".

[Freed Fox]

The first time they try it, they get a lecture [...] on not judging others despite whatever preconceived notions they may have of the goodness or evilness of that person. They get a lecture on tolerance and how there's not only room but need for many types of people [...]

I know you posted to point out a contradiction, and I'm not personally convinced one way or the other about this "Silver Legion" business, but the above is a very good rule/principle. Humanity would be in much better shape if it could collectively get basic tolerance through its thick skull.

[sirdipswitch]

Hey Fox!!

You got it my friend. The thing that really irritates me, is that ALL of these Lightworker, ET types, all seem to have the same story. "We are above you, and YOU must do as we say or we won't come and help you." I happen to "know" for a fact, through personal knowledge with "IT", that IT, is not that way, and requires nothing from us... to help us. WE, do not need to change to recieve ITs' help. IT, accepts us, the way we are, and we need do nothing but "accept"... IT. Source. Just accept IT... and there will be nothing impossible for you. First step.... accept IT. Second step... "demand" your power back. yep! YOU ARE SOURCE. You don't need to ask IT anything. We just need to confidently accept who we really are, and then act the part. We are not ITs' equal... WE are IT. That's the part that nobody can wrap their tiny little brains around, or accept as Truth, and so will not even attempt. This is also the very thing that none of those Lightworker, ET types will even think, to tell us. They all have their very own agenda that they are trying to put across, and they know full well that when we return to our "True" self, we are so very far "above" them, that we will no longer be able to be controlled by them. WHO WE ARE... is the "sole" reason, that no-one can come here, (to Earth) and take over the planet.

This is also the very reason for the mannor in which I post, and do not explain fully, even on my thread. I have however mentioned this "between the lines", for more than 2 years now. I will not produce one lengthy post after another to try and convince anyone of my knowledge, but only say which needs saying and nothing more.

Another reason for posting the way I do, is the very fact of who I really am in the physical, that nobody can seem to figure out, because no-one, has even thought to PM me, in question of it. If you should happen to figure it out, please feel free to PM me for verification. Yes there are a few, (that have become close enough through email conversation to share with) who know, but do to my wishes, do not and will not, share with this forum.

OK now... this for ALL reading this. YOU... do NOT need to listen to anyone, or anything, (Angels, Guides, Lightworkers, ETs', Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, Any-one on this forum, EVEN ME!!!) to achieve 24/7s' Communion with YOUR High Self/Source. ALL THAT YOU NEED TO ACHIEVE IT... is writen in those two books by William Buhlman. PERIOD.!!!

ALL that you need... is to "Understand"... that which you DO read. For more than two years, I have watched ALL of you, read those two books and then keep right on asking everyone on this forum, how to do that which you just read.

I am not... telling you what to be, or how to be, or what to think, or anything, because that's the way I think you Should be. You can be and do anyway you wish. I only keep talking about this, because you keep asking. Oh maybe not just on my thread, but I see your posts all over the forum, asking the same questions, continually. My sole reason for bringing those two books to this forum, is the fact that I thought any simpleton could understand them, and "Shoot Off' to the stars, as I did.

Boy was I ever wrong... ccccccc.:wizard:

[Cidersomerset]

Aliens And Presidents: Scripted and Silenced

Monday 7th April 2014 at 05:00 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/29655clinton.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PNttGg-z84&feature=youtu.be&t=2m10s

‘Former President Bill Clinton was on a late-night talk show Jimmy Kimmel Live
recently, and the inevitable question of UFOs and aliens came up.

What did he know?

Not much was revealed, save that his answer sounded very prepared and very
similar to late President Reagan’s theories on aliens.

“I just hope that it’s not like Independence Day, that it’s a conflict. Maybe the only
way to unite this incredibly divided world of ours – they’re out there – think of how
all the differences among people on earth would seem small if we felt threatened by
a space invader.”‘

Read more: Aliens And Presidents: Scripted and Silenced

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=29655


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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[Tyy1907]

For Sirdipswitch: the first bold paragraph talks about Source and our free will, etc. the other bold paragraph talks about the silver legions rules and how they handle people who aren't nice. It's comparing apples and oranges in my opinion. Should a child be allowed to hurt others without consequence? Source is sometimes described as pure love. Well disciplining somebody for a wrongdoing is a form of love as well. Basically the golden rule. No assholes are welcome. Just be cool. Thats how I see it. Not everyones going to resonate with Tanaath and her material. It's all good. Whatever floats ur boat! Sorry, kinda threadjacked a bit there. :peace::focus: