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Cidersomerset
3rd April 2014, 21:30
Saturn's Enceladus MOON hides 'great lake' of water - 3 April 2014

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3 April 2014 Last updated at 19:33

Saturn's Enceladus moon hides 'great lake' of water
By Jonathan Amos

Science correspondent, BBC News

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Jets of water-ice are blasted thousands of km above the surface of Saturn's tiny moon Enceladus

The evidence for an "ocean" of water under the surface of Saturn's moon Enceladus
appears to be overwhelming.The little world has excited scientists ever since jets of
icy material were seen squirting into space from a striped region at its south pole.
Now, exquisite measurements using Nasa's Cassini probe as it flew over the moon
have allowed researchers to detect the water's gravitational signal.

Science magazine reports the details.

"The measurements that we have done are consistent with the existence of a large
water reservoir about the size (volume) of Lake Superior in North America," Prof
Luciano Iess told BBC News.

A European comparison would be 245 times the water mass of Lake Garda in Italy.

The findings of Prof Iess and his team will boost the view that the 500km-wide
moon would be one of the best places beyond Earth to go look for the existence of
microbial life.

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Lake Superior Lake Superior has a volume of 12,000 cu km. The amount of liquid
on Enceladus would be somewhat similar

Cassini's data suggests the liquid volume lies about 40km under Enceladus's ice
crust.This would put it directly on top of the moon's layered, rocky interior. The
case for a subglacial ocean has been growing ever since Cassini first sensed a
diffuse atmosphere at the moon in 2005.Subsequent observations pinned the
source of this atmosphere to mineral-rich streams of water vapour flowing away
from surface fractures dubbed "tiger stripes" for their resemblance to the markings
on a big cat.Cassini even flew through the plumes to "taste" their load of salts and
organic (carbon-rich) molecules.

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I think Enceladus has gone to
the top of the charts in terms of
a place where there could be life”
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Prof Andrew Coates

UK Cassini scientist

Enceladus's orbit around Saturn is highly eccentric - it is a big ellipse. The giant
planet's gravity should therefore be expected to squeeze and stretch the little moon
as it travels this path, heating some of its ices and melting them. Some of the
resulting liquid could then be hurled into space through the deep tiger fractures,
although quite how this happens is not yet fully understood.Nonetheless, the new
work reinforces this general picture.It has involved measuring tiny changes in the
speed of Cassini as it passed through Enceladus's own gravitational field.

These changes in velocity were as small as 20 millionths of a metre per second.

They enabled Prof Iess and colleagues to map variations in the distribution of mass
on the moon. The large anomaly they spotted in the data at the southern pole is
best explained by the presence of a big volume of water.

"What we see is consistent with a water pocket of about 8-10km in depth, and this
pocket can extend up to southern latitudes of 50 degrees around the pole," the
Sapienza University of Rome researcher explained.

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Stripes The moon has long fractures in its ice surface that have been dubbed tiger
stripes There is strong evidence to suspect the existence of sub-glacial oceans at a
number of Solar System moons.Saturn's largest satellite, Titan, probably has one.
Similarly, the Jupiter moons Europa, Ganymede and Callisto would fall into this
class; and perhaps even Triton at Neptune. Of these, Enceladus and Europa draw
the most interest because it is more likely that their water would be in contact with
rock. This could make for some interesting chemistry - the sort of reactions that
might facilitate the emergence of life.

Prof Andrew Coates, of the UK's UCL-Mullard Space Science Laboratory,
commented: "I think Enceladus has gone to the top of the charts in terms of a
place where there could be life.

"It's got several of the things which you need for life - there's certainly the
presence of heat, there's liquid water in this ocean, there's organics and that type
of chemistry going on.

"The only question is, has there been enough time for life to develop?"

Prof David Stevenson, from the California Institute of Technology, added: "We don't
have an answer to that, but there are some theoretical ideas.

"First, let me say that the ocean that we have found could keep things going for
tens of millions of years, maybe 100 million years, but, of course, we don't know
whether the ocean is being added to at present or is freezing up.

"And, maybe, Enceladus does go through cycles and those cycles would be related
to the eccentricity of the orbit. It's possible that the orbit has not always had the
same eccentricity."

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Impression of interior An impression of the moon's interior with the water concentrated at the south pole
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Tesla_WTC_Solution
3rd April 2014, 23:45
Based on reading about Titan and Enceladus, I'd not be surprised if that's where a lot of life originated.

There are some eerie magnetic effects that are conducive to forming DNA.
Also the methane-based life thought to exist on Titan might be very complex, as methane-based worlds don't dissolve as fast as water-based worlds... i.e. water is more harmful to many forms of life than methane.

Earth being "old" matter a lot less than what its life is based upon -- a methane world like Titan could have faster evolutionary processes in place.

Where did Earth get its moon? Was it captured from another planet after a big accident (that also affected the orbit of Enceladus?)?
And what kind of accident could knock a moon loose?..

Sounds like a good question for NASA (don't let those assholes rest for a second!)

ghostrider
4th April 2014, 02:15
drip , drip , drip , new planets found , new moons , found , planet may have water , moon may have water , next it will be , new planet may have people , etc ...

ghostrider
4th April 2014, 02:22
Based on reading about Titan and Enceladus, I'd not be surprised if that's where a lot of life originated.

There are some eerie magnetic effects that are conducive to forming DNA.
Also the methane-based life thought to exist on Titan might be very complex, as methane-based worlds don't dissolve as fast as water-based worlds... i.e. water is more harmful to many forms of life than methane.

Earth being "old" matter a lot less than what its life is based upon -- a methane world like Titan could have faster evolutionary processes in place.

Where did Earth get its moon? Was it captured from another planet after a big accident (that also affected the orbit of Enceladus?)?
And what kind of accident could knock a moon loose?..

Sounds like a good question for NASA (don't let those assholes rest for a second!)

it is said , a destroyer comet came around every 575.5 years and on one particular passing , it pulled Venus from it's orbit of Uranus and also brought the moon here to earth ... back when a war destroyed the planet melona , where now orbits the asteroid belt ...

Cidersomerset
5th April 2014, 21:12
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