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4th April 2014, 04:12

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I wanted to share the following article excerpts with you guys and get opinions from you. Please note the concern expressed by an FBI agent in the recent CNN article regarding the latest Fort Hood shooting. Apparently there is something fishy enough about some of these recent Army killing sprees that the Feds are interested.

Please pray that our soldiers won't be subjected to conditions that render them incapable of surviving in modern society -- conditions that compromise the integrity of the brain.

WHY DOES THE US MILITARY KEEP COVERING UP EVIDENCE OF
TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY?

Robert Bales

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bales

Robert Bales (born June 30, 1973) is a former United States Army staff sergeant who murdered 17 Afghan civilians in Panjwayi, Kandahar, Afghanistan, on March 11, 2012 – an event known as the Kandahar massacre.
In order to avoid the death penalty, Bales pleaded guilty to 16 counts of murder and six counts of assault and attempted murder in a plea deal. On August 23, 2013, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.[1]

Bales enlisted in the U.S. Army in November 2001, shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11.[10] He was initially assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Infantry of the 3rd Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division in Fort Lewis.[11] He completed three tours in the Iraq War: twelve months in 2003 and 2004, fifteen months in 2006 and 2007, and ten months in 2009 and 2010.[3] During the 2007 tour he reportedly injured his foot in the Battle of Najaf,[3] and during the 2010 tour he was treated for traumatic brain injury after his vehicle was rolled in an accident.[11]

Bales had no history of mental disorder, and had undergone an extensive mental health screening to become a sniper in 2008.[11][35][36] In 2010, he suffered a concussion in a car accident, underwent traumatic brain injury treatment at Fort Lewis, and was deemed healthy. Investigators examining his medical history described his ten-year Army career as "unremarkable" and found no evidence of serious traumatic brain injury or post-traumatic stress.[11][23][35] A high-ranking U.S. official told The New York Times, "When it all comes out, it will be a combination of stress, alcohol and domestic issues—he just snapped."[21] However, Bales had been taking an anti-malaria medication now known to cause a wide range of side effects including psychiatric.[37]

Ian Stawicki

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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2018328041_stawicki01m.html

[Ian] Stawicki stopped just before 11 a.m. at Cafe Racer, an artistic, quintessentially Seattle coffee shop in the University District. But the barista asked him to leave, apparently because of Stawicki's belligerent behavior in front of a group of elderly customers just last week.

Stawicki sat down momentarily, then, as one customer was leaving, stood up and suddenly opened fire, shooting several people in the head.

Stawicki's bloody spree — five killed (and one injured), including a second shooting on First Hill as he was on the run — didn't end until nearly five hours later when, confronted by police in West Seattle, he dropped to his knees and shot himself in the head.

Walter Stawicki, a self-admitted draft dodger in the 1960s, said his son was stationed at Fort Drum, N.Y., and did training in Panama. But Ian Stawicki suffered a head injury from a grenade concussion during a training exercise and was discharged two years later, his father said.

The Army has no record of his ever serving in the Army, spokeswoman Lt. Col Laurel Devine said Thursday.

Aaron Alexis

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Navy_Yard_shooting

On September 16, 2013, lone gunman Aaron Alexis fatally shot twelve people and injured three others in a mass shooting at the headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) inside the Washington Navy Yard in Southeast Washington, D.C.[6][7][8] The attack, which took place in the Navy Yard's Building 197, began around 8:20 a.m. EDT and ended when Alexis was killed by police around 9:20 a.m. EDT.
It was the second-deadliest mass murder on a U.S. military base, behind only the Fort Hood shooting in November 2009.

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Alexis was also arrested in 2004 in Seattle, Washington, for malicious mischief, after shooting out the tires of another man's vehicle in what he later described as the result of an anger-fueled "blackout"

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/17/ptsd_doesnt_cause_mass_shootings/

Much has already been uncovered about the 34-year-old Alexis’ seemingly contradictory history. A friend described for the AP Monday his faithful Buddhism. “We are all shocked,” the friend said. “We are nonviolent. Aaron was a very good practitioner of Buddhism. He could chant better than even some of the Thai congregants.” Alexis also served three years as a Navy aviation electrician’s mate third class. He’d been involved in two previous minor shooting incidents. Nine years ago, he shot out a construction worker’s tires during what he called a “blackout.” His father reportedly told police at the time that Alexis had “anger management problems associated with PTSD, and that Alexis had been an active participant in rescue attempts on September 11, 2001.”

Ivan Lopez

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/03/us/fort-hood-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

[Ivan Lopez] had served for four months in Iraq in 2011. And while Army records don't show him as having been wounded there, Lopez himself reported that he had suffered a traumatic brain injury, Milley said.

Mary Ellen O'Toole, a former senior FBI profiler, warmed against blaming mental health problems for the violence.

"I'm really stunned by the general saying that the underlying cause is unstable mental health ... many people in the world have unstable mental health. Many people take Ambien. They don't go out and kill themselves and kill other people," she said. "Unstable mental health can be one of the risk factors for someone deciding that that's what they're going to do. But it's not the only risk factor."

Wade Michael Page

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US Army statistics show that the suicide rate among military personnel is rising exponentially. Last July, an estimated 38 suicides were “confirmed or suspected” by soldiers making that month the deadliest time in Army history.

Active duty suicides have climbed up to 22% with 116 deaths so far in 2012. Veterans are in most danger of committing suicide. While the Army has traditionally viewed younger soldiers as “at risk” for suicide, since the majority of deaths are occurring with veteran and older soldiers, that assumption is shifting.

Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, US Army vice chief of staff, said: “Suicide is the toughest enemy I have faced in my 37 years in the Army. And, it’s an enemy that’s killing not just soldiers, but tens of thousands of Americans every year. That said, I do believe suicide is preventable. To combat it effectively will require sophisticated solutions aimed at helping individuals to build resiliency and strengthen their life coping skills. As we prepare for Suicide Prevention Month in September we also recognize that we must continue to address the stigma associated with behavioral health. Ultimately, we want the mindset across our force and society at large to be that behavioral health is a routine part of what we do and who we are as we strive to maintain our own physical and mental wellness.”

Leon Panetta, US Defense Secretary testified before Congress about solider suicides, saying “that this is an epidemic . . . something’s wrong.”

Lariam and Traumatic Brain Injury

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-the-lariam-scandal--mod-ignored-decades-of-warnings-about-dangers-of-suicide-drug-8842496.html

Thousands of British soldiers are being put at increased risk of psychosis and suicide because the Ministry of Defence refuses to stop using a controversial anti-malarial drug that has just been banned by the US military, The Independent can reveal.

Mefloquine – better known as Lariam – has long been the subject of warnings over its effects on mental health and is now only used by a minority of people travelling abroad.

Amid mounting concerns about the dangers of the drug – which has been linked with a string of suicides and murders – the US military acted this month to ban its use among special forces. The decision came after it was linked to the massacre of 16 Afghan civilians by a US soldier.

They Knew Years Before This Happened

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Lariam was determined in 2006 by Walter Reed Army Institute of Research to have caused brain stem damage in rats in lesser concentrations than commonly occur in human brain tissue. It is said that this drug was in fact implicated in psychotic behavior of U.S. troops in Somalia, and was later used in conjunction with waterboarding and other forms of torturous interrogation at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, against prisoners held there by the United States.

The fact above was brought before U.S. Congress prior to 130th personnel being moved to K2 in 2004, yet we still received experimental doses of this dangerous, barely-effective, synthetic and insufficiently-tested drug, which has a history of association with traumatic brain injury (TBI), sometimes implicated in post traumatic stress syndrome (PTSD), and can no longer definitively kill . If you do not mind, Sir, I will quote Jeffrey Kaye, who wrote about this in 2002 and again in 2011:

“This further investigation may throw light upon the Guantanamo SOP wherein all detainees were subjected to a never-before-attempted use of mass administration of treatment doses of the controversial anti-malaria drug mefloquine (Lariam), as also reported in a special investigation by Jason Leopold and myself last December. The scandal was also the subject of an independent investigatory report published at the same time by Seton Hall University Law School’s Center for Policy and Research.”

Do they finally believe us?

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/healthscience/44177-warnings-about-psychological-side-effects-of-malaria-drug-lariam-grow-louder

The malaria prevention and treatment drug Lariam or mefloquine is widely used by civilians and soldiers alike -- even as the warnings about its potentially severe side effects are growing louder.

A Peace Corps volunteer from Philadelphia says Lariam had a devastating impact on his health.

Patrick McClanahan signed up for the Peace Corps after graduating from college. He arrived in Mozambique in late September of 2010 and took his first dose of Lariam on Oct. 1.

"We had to sign a waiver saying that we had read the safety information sheet, but it was the typical, anything can happen to you when you are taking this medicine," recalls McClanahan. "If you read the safety warnings on Tylenol, you will probably have the same impression of its safety."

Even though laundry list of Lariam's side effects include anxiety, depression, mood changes, panic attacks, forgetfulness, confusion, hallucinations, aggression, psychotic or paranoid reactions and suicidal thoughts, McClanahan was not overly concerned.

Anthrax Vaccine and Brain Inflammation (TBI)

http://vaccineawakening.blogspot.com/2007/09/sept-7-montel-williams-on-anthrax.html

Sept. 7: Montel Williams on Anthrax Vaccine Risks
"We will be exposing some of the military's darkest secrets including a mandatory vaccine program that many experts claim is literally killing our troops. Montel will speak with Kelli Donley, a female air force captain and military lawyer who suffered brain damage after receiving the anthrax vaccine. Filmmaker Scott Miller will discuss his film "A Call to Arms," which demonstrates how destructive and pervasive the anthrax vaccine is. He will show numerous clips, including a very powerful interview from a female top gun pilot who is now too ill to even travel. Montel will speak with two of the film's main subjects, Lieutenant Colonel Jay Lacklen and Sergeant Jeff Moore, who both say they are chronically ill from the vaccine. Find out what harmful consequences this vaccine may have had on soldiers' wives and children." - Description of "Dying to Serve," Friday, Sept. 7, 2007 Montel Williams Show

"For the first time, a federal judge last month declared six U.S. defense personnel the definitive winners in a four-year court battle over the anthrax vaccine. The Aug. 21 decision, which revolves around payment of attorneys' fees, is the latest chapter in a protracted struggle over whether the Defense Department can require service members to take the anthrax vaccine. U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan decided the government defendants must pay the plaintiffs' expenses because the plaintiffs won the case.....Known as "Anthrax II," the latest lawsuit alleges that the December 2005 FDA certification was invalid and that the Pentagon has resumed administering treatments inconsistent with the approved drug license. Zaid and Michels are asking the federal judge hearing that case, Rosemary Collyer, to impose another ban on the defense effort until the vaccine is properly tested and licensed for Pentagon use. In last month's decision, Sullivan bolstered from the bench the arguments the new set of eight plaintiffs make in their lawsuit. The judge clearly rejected the government's long-standing contention that the original drug license allowed the vaccine to be used for the prevention of anthrax regardless of the route of exposure, including disease contracted through the lungs...." - Elaine Grossman, Global Security Newswire, September 5, 2007

Depleted Uranium and Brain Damage

http://www.globalresearch.ca/depleted-uranium-far-worse-than-9-11/2374

“When inhaled through the nose, nano-particles can cross the olfactory bulb directly into the brain through the blood brain barrier, where they migrate all through the brain,” she wrote. “Many Gulf era soldiers exposed to depleted uranium have been diagnosed with brain tumors, brain damage and impaired thought processes. Uranium can interfere with the mitochondria, which provide energy for the nerve processes, and transmittal of the nerve signal across synapses in the brain.

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Tesla_WTC_Solution

4th April 2014, 04:17

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/03/us/fort-hood-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Fort Hood shooting: Psychiatric issues 'fundamental underlying causal factor'
By Catherine E. Shoichet, Tom Watkins and Josh Rubin, CNN
April 4, 2014 -- Updated 0217 GMT (1017 HKT)

Mary Ellen O'Toole, a former senior FBI profiler, warmed against blaming mental health problems for the violence.
"I'm really stunned by the general saying that the underlying cause is unstable mental health ... many people in the world have unstable mental health. Many people take Ambien. They don't go out and kill themselves and kill other people," she said. "Unstable mental health can be one of the risk factors for someone deciding that that's what they're going to do. But it's not the only risk factor."

Sidney

4th April 2014, 04:19

Why else? So they don't have to pay. :(

Tesla_WTC_Solution

4th April 2014, 04:37

DARPA REMIND http://viterbi.usc.edu/news/news/2012/another-grant-for.htm

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The REMIND program is funded to develop a neural prosthesis, in software and in hardware, that can substitute for a part of the brain called the hippocampus, which is responsible for forming new long-term memories.

The hippocampus often is damaged after stroke, extended epilepsy, as a consequence of aging (e.g., Alzheimer's disease), and in association with blunt head trauma. The REMIND cognitive prosthesis, which is designed to mimic the internal neural signal processing of the hippocampus, is functionally "connected" to the brain through multi-electrode arrays, such that information which normally flows to the hippocampus instead is re-routed to the neural prosthesis. The prosthesis performs hippocampal-like nonlinear transformations of the multi-signal input dynamics; as a consequence, the multi-signal output of the prosthesis is coded appropriately to function as output of the hippocampus. Through a second set of multi-electrode arrays, output of the prosthesis is used to electrically stimulate output neurons of the hippocampus, and thus, codes for new memories are sent to non-hippocampal parts of the brain for long-term storage. After having successfully developed such a prosthesis for the rat brain, the project now is focusing on both a memory prosthesis for the hippocampus, and an “executive function” prosthesis for the prefrontal cortex, of non-human primates (rhesus monkeys).

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DARPA REPAIR

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/may/repair-brain-injury-050410.html

"To access and truly understand the operation of brain microcircuits and their function, the team will pursue a new generation of implantable optogenetic microdevices, with the ultimate aim of achieving a clinically useful, two-way communication link with the brain," said Arto Nurmikko, a professor of electrical engineering and physics at Brown.

Shenoy is the principal investigator of the REPAIR project (for Reorganization and Plasticity to Accelerate Injury Recovery), for which the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is providing $14.9 million for two years with an option to increase the project's scope to $28.8 million and four years.

Stanford and Brown (with Nurmikko as the co-lead) are working with the University of California-San Francisco and University College London. Collectively, the team composed of 10 professors and their research teams has expertise ranging from neuroscience, neurology and psychiatry to semiconductors, optoelectronics, statistical signal processing, machine learning and brain modeling.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/brain_neural_interfaces.htm

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Did they let it go this long because it was a research opportunity?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/03/politics/senate-cia-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

'Shocking' report on CIA interrogation closer to public release
By Evan Perez, CNN
April 4, 2014 -- Updated 0111 GMT (0911 HKT)

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(CNN) -- The Senate Intelligence Committee voted Thursday for the public release of key parts of a report on the notorious CIA detention and interrogation program launched after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

A final decision on declassifying the information now rests with the White House, and it was unclear how long such a process would take.

Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said the panel she leads voted 11-3 in a closed-door session to declassify the 480-page executive summary and 20 findings and conclusions of the five-year study.

Feinstein called the report's findings "shocking," saying it "exposes brutality that stands in stark contrast to our values as a nation."

"A stain on our history"

"It chronicles a stain on our history that must never again be allowed to happen," she said. "This is not what Americans do."

The committee's ranking Republican, Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, said he voted to declassify the information in order to move past the politically volatile issue from the GOP administration of former President George W. Bush.

"This is a chapter in our past that should have already been closed," he said.

http://www.truth-out.org/archive/item/93140:exclusive-controversial-drug-given-to-all-guantanamo-detainees-akin-to-pharmacologic-waterboarding

EXCLUSIVE: Controversial Drug Given to All Guantanamo Detainees Akin to "Pharmacologic Waterboarding"
Wednesday, 01 December 2010 14:26
By Jason Leopold and Jeffrey Kaye, t r u t h o u t | Investigative Report | name.

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The Defense Department forced all "war on terror" detainees at the Guantanamo Bay prison to take a high dosage of a controversial antimalarial drug, mefloquine, an act that an Army public health physician called "pharmacologic waterboarding."

The US military administered the drug despite Pentagon knowledge that mefloquine caused severe neuropsychiatric side effects, including suicidal thoughts, hallucinations and anxiety. The drug was used on the prisoners whether they had malaria or not.

Interviews conducted over the past two months with tropical disease experts and a review of Defense Department documents and peer-reviewed journals show there were no preexisting cases where mefloquine was ever prescribed for mass presumptive treatment of malaria.

The revelation, which has not been previously reported, was buried in documents publicly released by the Defense Department (DoD) two years ago as part of the government's investigation into the June 2006 deaths of three Guantanamo detainees.

Army Staff Sgt. Joe Hickman, who was stationed at Guantanamo at the time of the suicides in 2006, and has presented evidence that demonstrates the three detainees could not have died by hanging themselves, noticed in the detainees' medical files that they were given mefloquine. Hickman has been investigating the circumstances behind the detainees' deaths for nearly four years.

All detainees arriving at Guantanamo in January 2002 were first given a treatment dosage of 1,250 mg of mefloquine, before laboratory tests were conducted to determine if they actually had the disease, according to a section of the DoD documents entitled "Standard Inprocessing Orders For Detainees." The 1,250 mg dosage is what would be given if the detainees actually had malaria. That dosage is five times higher than the prophylactic dose given to individuals to prevent the disease.

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The U.S. executed Japanese war criminals after WWII for waterboarding. During the first Bush/Cheney term, we seem to have forgotten who we are.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/pentagon-may-have-preformed-medical-experiments-on-guantanamo-detainees

Pentagon may have preformed medical experiments on Guantanamo detainees
See alsoGuantanamo Bay CIA Experiments

June 11, 2012
I received a rather strange report about possible medical experiments being preformed on Guantanamo prison detainees under the guise of malaria treatment, back in 2003 and 2004 that I initially discounted as not very credible.

However further information seems to suggest that something fishy was in fact going on here...

The Pentagon, of course, denied the allegation at the time and then refused comment - so I did not report it.

However, a friend who happens to be a physician, sent us an interesting link to a story he said has a “tie in” to that earlier incident when allegations were made about the strange vaccines for malaria the detainees were given.

According to an OpEd News report by investigative journalist Jeffrey Kaye :

“In January 2002, the Department of Defense deliberately decided that all incoming detainees at Guantanamo would be given a full treatment dose of the controversial antimalarial drug mefloquine, also known as Lariam. The purpose was supposedly to control for a possible malaria outbreak, in deference to concerns from Cuban officials. But specialists in malaria prevention have said they have never heard of such presumptive treatment for malaria by mefloquine in this type of situation. Furthermore, a summary of antimalarial measures at Guantanamo given to Army and Center for Disease Control (CDC) medical officials at a February 19, 2002, meeting of the Armed Forces Epidemiological Board failed to describe the mefloquine procedure approved a month earlier.” (see article: Guantanamo Connection? Documents Show CIA Stockpiled Antimalaria Drugs as "Incapacitating Agents http://www.opednews.com/articles/Guantanamo-Connection-Doc-by-Jeffrey-Ka... ).

VOMITING, DIZZINESS , HEAD ACHES...

Mefloquine, according to medical websites, is used to treat malaria (a serious infection that is spread by mosquitoes in certain parts of the world and can cause death) and to prevent malaria in travelers who visit areas where malaria is common.
Mefloquine is in a class of medications called antimalarials. It works basically by killing the organisms that cause malaria.
However the drug does have some very serious side effects.
For example, people on the drug tend to vomit a lot…mefloquine may make you drowsy and dizzy, and the manufacturer advises people not to operate machinery while doped up on the drug...
These symptoms may continue for a while after you stop taking mefloquine.
UNUSUAL DREAMS, STOMACH PAINS, LOSS OF APPETITE…
People on mefloquine experience a host of strange side effects including, but not limited to the following:
• nausea
• vomiting
• diarrhea
• stomach pain
• loss of appetite
• muscle pain
• dizziness
• loss of balance
• ringing in ears
• headache
• sleepiness
• difficulty falling or staying asleep
• unusual dreams
Some side effects can be very serious.
SEIZURES, DEPRESSION, NERVOUSNESS…
The following symptoms are uncommon, but if you experience any of them, they advise you to call your doctor immediately and/or to seek medical care in the hospital:
• tingling in your fingers or toes
• difficulty walking
• seizures
• shaking of arms or legs that you cannot control
• nervousness or extreme worry
• depression
• changes in mood
• panic attack
• forgetfulness
• confusion
• hallucinations (seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist)
• violent behavior
• losing touch with reality
• feeling that others want to harm you
• thoughts of hurting or killing yourself
• rash
SLEEPLESSNESS, DIFFICULTY WALKING…
Symptoms of overdose include:
• nausea
• vomiting
• diarrhea
• stomach pain
• dizziness
• loss of balance
• headache
• sleepiness
• difficulty falling or staying asleep
• unusual dreams
• tingling in your fingers or toes
• difficulty walking
• seizures
• changes in mental health
Was mefloquine used at Guantanamo to induce a state of "learned helplessness" in detainees? Were experiments conducted on “adverse side effects” of mefloquine on the prisoners held there as part of subtle mind control efforts? We may never know for sure.

No one I talked to can actually say one way or another. The story seems weird enough that we should probably continue to look into it further.

Robert Tilford

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"Man In The Box"

I'm the man in the box
Buried in my ****
Won't you come and save me, save me

Feed my eyes, can you sew them shut?
Jesus Christ, deny your maker
He who tries, will be wasted
Feed my eyes now you've sewn them shut

I'm the dog who gets beat
Shove my nose in ****
Won't you come and save me, save me

Feed my eyes, can you sew them shut?
Jesus Christ, deny your maker
He who tries, will be wasted
Feed my eyes now you've sewn them shut

Sidney

4th April 2014, 04:39

They are psychopaths. they do not feel human emotions, therefore they have no clue the fallout that is associated with the experiences of these unfortunate soldiers. They simply do not care.

Matt P

4th April 2014, 11:07

Why do they cover up these injuries? I think you know the answer.
Use false flag terrorism to start illegal and immoral wars of aggression.
Inflame your population with propaganda and nationalism to con unsuspecting recruits.
Pump those recruits full of dozens of deadly pharmaceutical vaccines and other toxic medications.
Turn loose these drugged soldiers to rape, terrorize and murder innocent men, women and children of different nationalities and skin color, even though a vast majority of soldiers have a conscience that does not allow for them to kill.
When they have fulfilled or ended their usefulness, spit them back out into society to cope with the consequences on their own.
Oh, and do all of this just so some wealthy individuals and corporations can make lots and lots of money (war is the world's most profitable business and is fought for NO OTHER REASON).
And, like Sidney said above, it's all covered up to reduce the government's liability and save money (i.e. turn more profit). You don't have to pay a lifetime pension to a dead soldier.
Matt

Matt P

4th April 2014, 11:42

Tesla, this is a tough topic for me and I am really torn. You had military service, right? Maybe you can help. Out of high school I thought seriously about joining the Air Force Academy. The governor at the time was a close family friend so I had a couple of golden contacts to help get me there. There was just one big snag. I knew that when it got right down to the nitty gritty, I knew that I simply could not be willing or able to follow an order to kill another human being. So, I went a different path.
I have since learned quite a bit about politics and war and am thankful I made the choice I did. One of the things I learned is all but about 5-10% of soldiers will actually carry out an order to kill. All the killing is done by a very small percentage of soldiers. Studies have been done that showed many soldiers would purposefully miss their targets in battle and would be killed before killing. So, I understand that most soldiers are just normal people that, for whatever reasons, ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time....and made a terrible choice or choices along the way.
However, after all these years of witnessing the consequences of a psychopathic foreign policy and reading stories like yours above I still cannot get past that basic choice people are willing to make when they sign up for military service. The choice to join an organization knowing you may have to kill. I have also come to learn that the ONLY reason we have wars is because naïve and uneducated men and women are willing to sign up to do the fighting. Rich men and corporations don't do their own fighting! I say naïve because all war is based on propaganda and lies. I say uneducated, not as a lack of intelligence, but as not being willing to learn about and think about issues and instead taking the opinions of total strangers as gospel.
For all these reasons, I find it very difficult to have sympathy for what happens to these soldiers during and after coming through the meat grinder of military service and war. It was, after all, their choice and we must all live with the consequences of our choices. If you make a really bad choice, it seems almost justified that the karma could also be pretty bad.
I've read it so many times that these soldiers "signed up in the aftermath of 9/11." This really troubles me and shows me their ignorance and herd mentality. In MY immediate aftermath of 9/11, I was writing op-eds to my newspapers about it being an inside job and fighting with my family and friends about the fact it was a false flag (and still to this day don't have a relationship with many as a result). My wife and I lost a great business in the aftermath of 9/11 because we were in our first year and it was a "luxury" business (massage, yoga, sustainable products) and our thriving business dried up for 2 months after 9/11 and that was enough to kill it. 9/11 transformed my life but it didn't lead me to killing, it led me to awareness. What I'm getting at is that it was the choices the people of this country made in response to 9/11 that killed this country and set the world on a path of destruction, not the act of 9/11 itself. Isn't it about time we own those choices and are held accountable for them and stop blaming others for what has happened to us?

Matt

Agape

4th April 2014, 12:44

And I thought I'm the only pacifist around here Matt ...

it's just feeling far more complicated and alarming . We can't dissolve one nations army unless we dissolve all of them .
Are armies an attempt to control part of this 'natural' atavistic aggression of its own populace, besides their 'officially' proclaimed 'defensive' purpose ?
How many of those young people .. with half baked education and zero life experience , on either side of the combat, really understand what are they doing ?
2 years ago they've been playing 'Monsters&Aliens' . Now they're shooting to living targets .
Those who were made to believe they do this for the good of their own country and good of the world , may end up the most shocked at the end .

This world is actively engaged in wars , it's almost unbelievable how much untamed aggression is out there among people ..

it's not only the soldiers of course .

It's a blender of things I believe . They always tell the news reporters how surprised they're that this n that happened , in reality .. there are always neglected problems, betrayed emotions, destroyed lives , feelings of nihilism and worthlessness ,
unheard calls for help . There are always signs no one listens to .

When you report there is something serious going on and ask people who are in position of authority, your presumed elders for help , hundred times .. and they neglect and ridicule your request ,
they should be held responsible . But they never will, they don't care to admit any sort of responsibility . Life or two less .. what does it matter.

:rain:

Snowflower

4th April 2014, 13:01

One common factor among all the mass killings is the drugs. They alter the chemistry in the brain. And there are between 25% and 40% of the civilian population on these drugs. I wonder what the percentage in the military is. I've heard it's pretty high.

As for the folks at the top orchestrating this scenario - it's because they are psychopaths.

TargeT

4th April 2014, 16:42

So, I understand that most soldiers are just normal people that, for whatever reasons, ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time....and made a terrible choice or choices along the way.
However, after all these years of witnessing the consequences of a psychopathic foreign policy and reading stories like yours above I still cannot get past that basic choice people are willing to make when they sign up for military service. The choice to join an organization knowing you may have to kill. I have also come to learn that the ONLY reason we have wars is because naïve and uneducated men and women are willing to sign up to do the fighting. Rich men and corporations don't do their own fighting! I say naïve because all war is based on propaganda and lies. I say uneducated, not as a lack of intelligence, but as not being willing to learn about and think about issues and instead taking the opinions of total strangers as gospel.
For all these reasons, I find it very difficult to have sympathy for what happens to these soldiers during and after coming through the meat grinder of military service and war. It was, after all, their choice and we must all live with the consequences of our choices. If you make a really bad choice, it seems almost justified that the karma could also be pretty bad.

There are four types of people who join the military. For some, it's family trade. Others are patriots, eager to serve. Next you have those who just need a job. Then there's the kind who want the legal means of killing other people.

However, I'd say the last category are few and far between.

A lot of people confuse the military with honorable action, and why not? The intent behind joining is the protection of our fellow citizen and since critical thinking is all but beaten out of "modern man" it's not hard to see how falling into this thinking trap is very easy; modern media supports this notion, so do our "elders".

I think it's very naive to NOT understand this, when the entire society we live in is built to indoctrinate, divide, and dumb down every member.

so when you find it difficult to have sympathy for some individual who's intent was pure, and who's job (at least on the surface) is to protect you; while you call them naive and ignore the traps of society (Family, civic and "other"); I think your taking an overly myopic view point that is shaded by a philosophy you deem to be the only right one, empathy is difficult however, so this is not overly surprising.

the military "life" is much different than you think, from these few sentences you wrote I get the idea that you have no idea of that which you criticize; but honestly with out being a part of it or at least very closely connected I don't know how anyone could learn it.

Anyway, not a simple topic.

Tesla_WTC_Solution

4th April 2014, 18:50

Agape

4th April 2014, 19:17

I think it's a cop out to say that people who volunteer for military service "should have known better" or somehow deserved to get their brains messed up by drugs.
It's like saying stupid like "Americans deserve cancer".

The FBI agent in the article doesn't buy that **** either, the whole "pre-existing mental illness" crap, she called it out right on CNN, said the General surprised her by claiming this.

I wonder where America would be if all the ancient Greek warriors ended up as ****ed in the head as our troops have.
There would be no ivory towers and no proud pillars then.

I guess a lot of people even on PA think that soldiers can't lead normal lives to begin with -- that's pretty far departed from the ideology that provided us a country in the first place.

Tesla ... sorry to add to our shared sadness and frustration ...

but it's one reason why I said .. these 'kids' , like you, are young . Look this is 'alright' where you come from, patriotic opinion , pride of your nation ,

but are you capable of greater overview ? I'm sure you are .

The world is not only the US . The threat is that similarly minded people are trained in their respective armies , all around the world to hate each other ..basically, obey their mad leaders ,
the training , the suffering they go through, psychological indoctrination, patriotism, it all has to be roughly the same, don't you think so ,
whether you're Chinese, Russian, American or Pakistani , lets put it thus ,

you're brought up and trained in faith that you and your nation are somehow better than everyones else's or what .

Look at whom you coin terrorists , the young Muslim suicide bombers, some in their teenage, they're very dedicated to the 'cause' . They think they're fighting the 'holy war' and them and those they kill will go to heavens .

History of mankind is history of bloody wars but that's NO EXCUSE for them to continue .

I don't think it's possible to reach conclusions in short time ... but I think, it's more than necessary to search for better discernment between 'correct mentality ' and 'supported mentality' .
The later one is reserved for all kinds of organisations including military with rules of their own . The first one .. is not .

And there are brave, wise and admirable individuals in armies as well .. those who can stand the moral pressure and resist exercising brute force - unless it's completely warrantied . But after all we've seen from the battlefields around the world ,
I think those are rare people.

:angel:

Tesla_WTC_Solution

4th April 2014, 20:05

You're right, but what I am wondering is, WHAT MAKES these kids so trigger happy?

If Lopez wasn't a Call of Duty/WoW addict, what WAS his problem?

What made Bales stand out was the lack of history. No serious mental illness until after the Mefloquine.

Are they going postal due to stress or is there something wrong inside?

Agape

4th April 2014, 20:59

Tesla_WTC_Solution

4th April 2014, 21:13

You can't answer that . We're talking of extreme situations and acts of despair ,
one thing remains common .. circumstances when lives of people look worthless ,
empty numbers .
Such states can be drug induced .. in vulnerable individuals but it's not a rule .

Triggered by argument .. that would have to be 'last drop' over the edge of something much deeper the individuals were keeping for themselves for very long time .

The tragedy is exactly when the collective - including your superiors , elders etc ., 'collectively' deny any knowledge of causes . That itself speaks volumes .
It means no one was aware for very long time what went on deep down each of these people and if they knew , they did not react .
Passivity is one common trigger .

Imagine Bradley Manning and if he took his/her life .. could we ever guess how he/she felt . Or can we guess now. I doubt that . Organisations like army tend to neglect personal circumstances a lot ,
but they paint the image they actually do care for you ..and then it really depends whether you're their favourite. Right or not.

:panda:

What's creepy is how the Dover AFB people got so sick and had to be replaced after Anthrax vaccine.
And quite a few people complained about feeling horrible afterward at my base, too.

And within a few years, the Drone rolls out and replaces us humans...

One of the things that will make drones 100% mainstream is that "machines can't catch Gulf War Syndrome".
Which is still being blamed on Saddam. And not the vaccines.

I actually dated one of the people who made the anthrax vaccine a reality,
the co-creator of the Lambda Red Delivery System (Bacteriophage P1 transporting DNA) --
some of the damn documents have been taken down, but it's quite crazy to think about.

People talk about synchronicity, all the time here, but when it actually happens, and you see the other side of things for a minute,
it freezes the blood.

I know what you mean about the feelings of the guys who snap and do these things.
One problem is families who push these kids into the mil without caring that things can and will likely get worse for them as a result.

Military is sort of like day care for adults who didn't succeed.

edit: I woke up angry at a co-worker from 8 years ago today, if that says something about immaturity lol

my boss's underling was butthurt that when i joined his ANG mxs shop, they had to take down the porn off the walls.

he apparently didn't know my gramps was a nuclear missile mxs SMSgt who had run his own shop and banned porn decades earlier.

P.S. gramps said he "went through more security protocol every day than most military people see in the course of their entire careers". and HE didn't snap and shoot people at work... so what gives?

p.p.s. Lopez:

The shooter "had a clean record" behaviorally, Army Secretary John McHugh said. There were "no major misbehaviors that we're yet aware of," he said.

p.p.p.s. i understand why some of you have an issue with people who aren't 100% "conscientious objectors"... but I always did have a problem with deciding whether the cat in the box was dead or alive before looking. If you know what I mean. What is a killer? How do we know if we are killers? Is a killer the sum of his equipment, or is a killer made after he kills the first time?

And do people learn enough from the experience to be changed afterward, to have greater respect for life because of this experience of having killed?

What about hunting and fishing? Should I feel less sorry for the dead catfish floating by with the hook stuck in its gullet than for the human being in the trenches? What about all the deer I've killed -- are they waiting for me in the afterlife with accusations and penalties?

There are so many serious moral questions surrounding the core behaviors of humans that I find it difficult to start the conversation at all!

p.p.p.p.s. I've given up hunting btw, haven't been in like 8 years. Could have easily started again and had no desire. It's not as "much fun" but photos are 100x better than shooting for fun. And hunting for meat isn't always fun either, it's not a fair battle. I was an excellent tracker, but will never forget the misery of the animals who did not die quickly -- and I will never forget the intelligence and emotion that so many animals display while being hunted to death.

It makes me feel horrible, and being reminded of all this just because of the Air Force affiliation is really brutal.

But then again you guys are probably onto something pretty fundamental.
Being willing to kill is a big psychic/mental/creative energy block.

SPIRIT WOLF

4th April 2014, 21:54

Great posts guys, food for thought, many of us knew about these, have been subject to similar years back. Its disgraceful and inhuman but they carry on with these guinea-pigs and the experimentation in plain site.

Agape

4th April 2014, 22:00

I'm still with Matt on the essential causality you choose either to : accept or discard . If you sign up for army service ..and we're talking of seemingly 'peace situation' now , not a martial law or some sort of acute call to arms , to defend your home ,

you risk being turned to killing machine . They supposedly take you through battery of physical and psychological tests but ... we're really talking of young people here,
without prior experience so no one, in the whole world , can estimate how are you going to react to the reality of it .
I can emphatise . But can't imagine how hard that really is , being dropped somewhere in the middle of desert camp in Middle East or any other place where you probably never wanted to be and being sacrificed for someones bloody war .

It's just all completely absurd , all their wars .

Look at this .. do things like that happen with police departments frequently , just because they're armed and deal with violence ? You don't hear that so often .
Police are fixed in number , much better organised .. and even if they're tough .. there's more human element to their service, touch of reality .

Drones make it all feel much worse . In fact ..the Taliban started responding ferociously after the first unmanned crafts were seen flying over the villages .

The problem from where I see it ... is psychological war at first place, they're not able to maintain dialogue . All their wars never start and never end , they just continue .. in minds of people and it makes this planet and people suffer .

:angel:

Tesla_WTC_Solution

5th April 2014, 00:49

Our gov't would allege that the shooters had terrorist ties before admitting what really happened to them.

I agree that the wars seem endless. That money could be spent forwarding the species, not killing them off. :(

Snowflower

5th April 2014, 01:06

Tesla_WTC_Solution

5th April 2014, 05:44

Tesla, you must have missed the impact of the post I wrote above. It is the DRUGS!!!! The legally prescribed ones. The ones that list both homicide and suicide as "side effects." 100% of ALL of the mass shootings have been done by a person on psychotropic medication. Do you understand what that mean? The DOCTORS need to be jailed! It isn't something lurking inside the soldiers. It is a chemical change in the brain. They probably think they are having a nightmare and don't realize they are acting it out!!!

Perhaps, but I personally think there is more to it than that, such as pre-existing brain injuries.
See, mefloquine causes worse side effects in people with brain injuries too.
Logic says psychotropic prescriptions probably do too.

Not sure how I missed anything. Sorry though!

Tesla_WTC_Solution

6th April 2014, 18:12

I've bitched about this before, but did you guys know that National Guard troops don't get VA services unless they can prove that the military disabled them, or they served 24 months of "presidential orders" (official active duty) -- regardless of whether these people work full-time at home base on governor's orders/man days?

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Meaning, there are troops who got the vaccines and maybe even some lariam, who didn't do more than a rotation or two, disqualified for the VA services due to no extended official active duty records, etc., and are violently and chronically ill in many cases -- and they get DIDDLY EFFING SQUAT -- and the local newspaper whines about the Walla Walla homelessness lately and the slough of psychological problems these folks supposedly have, thanks to maligning from generals and the MSM.

The UB paper I saw today was talking about local homelessness and the clients "not fitting the bill" to receive available services, meaning they're too nuts to get help.

And the VA denies help to many of us in that situation.
Imagine if I'd swallowed the Mefloquine and was a breath away from losing my housing, like Robert Bales was.
You can see what I am saying, that those of us who avoided "serious" TBIs have more ability to resist feelings of anger and sadness than the people who got damaged/ruined by bad medications.

Normal assholes can sit around and fantasize for hours about revenge.
People with brain damage can't distinguish between fantasy and action.

p.s. lol @ Today 11:12 ----> Link to post 21 not quite a palindrome dang

Tesla_WTC_Solution

6th April 2014, 18:19

I should add, my unit, the 130AW, were guinea pigs at K2 base Uzbek 2004
right before or after the Pentagon memo went around re: lariam damage.

the mil tested our reaction to Doxycycline and lariam at the same time.
my gut instinct (and listening to rumors) prompted me to avoid the lariam.
and i don't think i have malaria, although should get checked lol
some bad bad night sweats in 2008-09
etc.

two people from my unit who were on the 2004 uzbek rotation w/ me went crazy within 2 years.
GS and JR. enlisted MXS. lost homes, wives, jobs, everything. went crazy.

i think they took the Mefloquine, just an FYI. and they get blamed because "one of them drank too much" and "the other's house burned down". etc.

it's very pitiful how the higher ups are really the lower downs when it comes to telling the ****ing truth.

Yetti

6th April 2014, 18:53

Tesla_WTC_Solution

6th April 2014, 23:11

HI TESLA_WTC. I think this is just part of a big agenda that includes NWO depopulation program, poison thru medicine, chemtrails, Monsanto's poison food , Include also MJ12, and other black projects, Non of them take ANY care of us, cero , nada !
We're just labrats in the big lab earth!, don't you think? Yetti

Yes, you are 100% right.

my old unit, the 130 AW, is in the town recently poisoned by a chemical spill (Charleston WV)!
They are a few miles up the highway from Nitro WV, where Monsanto manufactured two different vintages of Agent Orange.

I feel terrible for those suffering people, I even wrote to my former supervisor telling him about the new Spaceports and the job opportunities with space mining and drones.
So he could get out of that crap hole.

YOu know the book Desperation by Stephen King? it's not a great book, but it makes a great point about poisoning the earth and what happens after.

:(

Yetti

8th April 2014, 22:16

Dear Tesla-wtc-solution. You are right to advice your friends to get out of there, I don't have read the book yet, must be a good novel coming from Stephen King.
Actually I'm reading " The secret story of consciousness" very good if you like Metaphisics teachings. I study this area for over 40 yrs now, and is something that must be teach to our children at schools instead the ton of BS from the school system. The question here is: what kind of world we are going to let for them?
Think about, firs the poisoned food, air, seas, earth, destroyed moral values, and all for what? a very few in power making tons of money regardless the consecuences..... No!, we got to do something about like: Try very hard to awake the people surrounding us!. And let them start thinking for themselves, instead to follow the subliminal orders from media : buy your new car now, eat the turkey now. this is the Ipod you need now. What? you don't have your 342" plasma ultra foldable tv? , go get it now!!! I'm blessed with the little place I found in the middle of a forest in NC, pure well water, fairly clean air , and my organic vegies, eggs and goat cheese, trying to avoid as much as possible supermarket food!

vilcabamba

14th April 2014, 16:51

[QUOTE=Tesla_WTC_Solution;818591]You're right, but what I am wondering is, WHAT MAKES these kids so trigger happy?

Oh Tesla, i see you on the forum and i just want to send you a big hug. I see how inquisitive you are and your search for knowledge. I have a good feeling that things are going to happen for you in the future that are going to positively effect you..i don't know why. But i just see that.

I know what makes these children trigger happy. My friend is a former military bio warfare soldier and she warned me not to take any prescription meds. She said they are being filled with nanotechnology. This nanotechnology multiplies in the body and is connected a supercomputer that is controlled by the military. When someone has these nanotechnology bots in their body, their frequency is being changed via the satalites beaming frequencies of hate and kill at the people. Therefore, they are being influenced by outside sources to kill and are not in their right mind. The military injects the troops with all sorts of vaccinations which contain tons of viruses and pathogens that may serve the purpose of delivering the nanobots around the body so that the soldiers can be controlled via satellite systems. People with different genetics will be effected differently and depending on what pathogens are in the body, people may be more susceptible to having the nanobots multiply in the body and get into the brain. That is why i believe there are so many instances where people go postal. I heard during nazi germany, hitler handed out radios. This to me sounds like he also used some type of frequency induced mind control. Maybe the fallen angel ETs have been filling people's bodies with foreign materials and nanobots for decades and we are just realizing it now. I found out about this when i discovered i had nanobots in my body. I am a second generation of holocaust survivors from Aushwitz. I believe my family was tested on and i'm a descendent who has the remnants which i have been detoxifying using stabilized oxygen pills and essential oils which push out and break up the nano implants. That led me to becoming friends with a former military insider who gave me this method and told me the issue is much bigger then anyone thinks. And at this time all of us are being implanted via chemtrails, and i suspect it will make for some interesting zombie scenerios in 5-10 years when these nanobots multiply in the general public's body causing them to become controlled via the new world order satalite system. Which is a replay of the downfall of Atlantis, according to lavandar at StarSeedHotline who was trained by the Plaeidians. She says it's Atlantis all over again and we are at the cusp of where Atlantis fell with everyone being implanted and controlled via frequencies. I see how when the majority of the population starts having these nanobots multiply in their bodies it will be brother against brother, father against son, just like it was prophesied in the bible. As those who are spiritually connected will have a resistance to being controlled via artificial frequencies whereas the awakened ones will know which thought is their own thought and which is coming from the satellite systems and will be more resistant to acting out negatively. I wonder how long the fallen angel ETs have controlled humanity with nanotechnology. Maybe it's why this planet has been so evil for so long. Maybe we are just awakening to their evil game. I personally know that when the nanotechnolgy started effecting my family members when i was ten years old, it was like the light turned out in my parents bodies and imposters came in who were totally psychotic. It was at the same time when i got my pet dog. I have learned that the cabal may be using the pathogens in pets either through their natural bacteria or vaccinations to combine with nanotechnology to them spread the nano throughout the body. I don't get my pets vaccinated now for the reason i don't want them infected with any of their technology. And my pets use my radiant heat (pure far infrared) technology that kills viruses and pathogens instead of using vaccinations. As Dr. Fred Bell warned that pets were somehow being used this way. I love my pets and would never not have them because of this..but i wish i knew decades ago to detox regularly to avoid this. I was told to take elderberry and olive leaf extract to avoid this and i give my dog a spoonful of elderberry tea every now and then. It kills pathogens that are used to multiply the nanotechnology in the body.
Anyway, that is my two cents on why people go postal especially in the military after they are given prescriptions and vaccines.

Tesla_WTC_Solution

14th April 2014, 18:59

Although it might sound "crazy" to us humans, it's not beyond the scope of possibility -- Michael Crichton wrote a pretty good book about this subject: "PREY".

Thanks for your input. It also ties in to the Manchurian Candidate scenario. Also alluded to in MI:III (implants)

avid

14th April 2014, 19:16

Tesla_WTC_Solution

14th April 2014, 19:26

After reading many many reports on robotics/humans for warfare, hideous drugs, and severe training, I believe that the duped 'military' in most 'hi-tech' countries now are indoctrinated via psy-ops, drugged and vaccinated beyond any safety measures. One of my best friends returned from Iraq totally disabled, and died shortly thereafter, due to multiple untested vaccines. From a vibrant cognisant pro-active community member, he died very quickly on return from being called up from we call our 'toy army' - the reservists - I was shocked. He had a job with us - lost!

I would be interested in hearing more about this, if possible.
That is very sad and sounds 100% like Jerry Rucker's story -- untested vaccine administered while overseas.
Came back destroyed. Panic attacks, sweats, migraines, etc. Couldn't hold a job. House burned down. etc.

How horrifying.

avid

14th April 2014, 19:42

My friend was a reservist - we call them the 'Toy Army', called up when necessary. They never think it will happen - it's a man-thing here. However, the Terratorial Army called them up for Iraq!!! I lost a valued member of staff, and off he went. Came back a zombie - very ill, totally allergic to stuff, and eventually died. Aged late 40's, 2 kids, a wife. What a waste. Not an isolated incident. Ask TA members what happened to them (UK) after Iraq! Seems like it happens everywhere is global 'warfare' for banksters' profiteering. Bottom line = DON'T JOIN THE MILITARY!!!!!!!!

Tesla_WTC_Solution

15th April 2014, 02:32