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Gerald Paris
12th April 2014, 04:31
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
Kalamos
12th April 2014, 04:55
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Precog
12th April 2014, 06:25
I agree Gerald, I thought it was going to be a wonderful place to be but find that there is so much "New Age Bull****" passed around here that it is hurting any move forward for us. I was out(Live on the radio) two days after Sandy Hook telling everyone it was a hoax yet there are quite a few people here that still can't see the truth. How can we move forward when people can't face the ugly truth of what is going on around us. I'm not looking to insult anyone here. I am only stating fact. There are some here that are right on board and see what is going on.
Go to YouTube and listen to some of Mark Passio's information. People saying "Only put out there what you want to see" is just telling people to do nothing to move us forward or stop what is coming down on us. We all have a job to do and those of us working hard to point out the problems that we face are going down with the ship of people who are doing nothing to help. In fact they are allowing others to believe that they don't have to do anything and everything will be fine.
We have a group of people working very hard to get us locked into something that we will not be able to escape once locked into it. None of us are creating it by wishing it to happen. They are doing it. Our inaction is allowing it. The first step is for us to reach as many of our brothers and sisters as possible and teach them the truth. Only then can we begin to fight this. They are making this difficult because they control the media so do not trust anything that come from them! Use it against them by exposing them and thier lies. I have been in this fight for twenty years now and I will go down fighting. Please join me for our sake.
greybeard
12th April 2014, 06:29
There are many pages and sections in the magazine/forum called Avalon---many diverse opinions and topics.
Thousands of members
If one looks deeply then like minded people and discussions on going will be found.
Best wishes
Chris
ThePythonicCow
12th April 2014, 06:39
Those who prefer to live in communities of mostly like minded folks have a place in this great world too ... it's just that such communities are usually smaller.
Kalamos
12th April 2014, 06:46
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Shezbeth
12th April 2014, 07:47
Gerald, assuming you will bother reading this, whatever were you expecting? I don't recall the 'door' to Avalon being adorned with any banners or marquees indicating that all the solutions were contained within, nor do I recall any indication that the participants amongst Avalon are any less human than me; or you.
Now, I'm not about to excuse some of the obvious examples of behavior that are consistent with "individuals operating from their particular position in life" (absent silly level classifiers such as "higher" or "lower"). I would not engage in such behavior from my current position, but all that separates is context and experience.
"EVERYONE'S a jerk. You, me,... that jerk,...." - Bender (Futurama)
Expectations and preconceptions are the route of all disappointment. Consequently, the key to not being disappointed is to not be pre-appointed to a particular outcome to begin with.
That's just IMO, but don't take my word for it, my handle means "The liar". ^_~
ulli
12th April 2014, 07:55
Some dreamers are naive dreamers, who are incapable of looking at reality.
Other dreamers have seen nothing BUT reality but chosen to create a better one,
And they base this on the knowledge that everything which exists in 3D was first preceded by a thought.
So they are not naive dreamers but conscious dreamers.
There is a difference.
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Lifebringer
12th April 2014, 10:10
Is it a delusion to have faith that good conquers evil when the times are so darkest before the dawn? I mean is it wrong to hope that with all our combined thoughts of prayer or focus on the good things happening in this world, when all seems to be so twisted, dark, greedy and immoral. Leaders carting off children for ritual?
I doubt seriously that people are running around like that here, in fact I believe they believe in Jesus/Christ/Creator Father/God, because he lives in our hearts minds and soul, and as of now the only church people find faith in, is the very vehicle/vessel they reside in to bring about these things. Accepting the things they alone cannot change, wisdom hidden for year that now allow to know the things they can change, and giving it over to higher Source of the Universal God to do the rest. I find it simply refreshing not to have a preacher or adjunct tv pastor screaming about hell, gays/other souls that we are not supposed to judge, and it's just so egotistically male to think our pea brains would have the knowledge to confront someone other than another human. Somee simply aren't mature enough to go to big boy school, next realm of vibration, and simply won't try to carry something other than sarcasm. It's usually purging and ego in defense.
NO it's not some delusion, for we've seen and felt and learned many things by just going within and being at one in our hearts with GOD/Source.. People are having a hard time believing that the Son of Man/Yeshua/Jesus had a wife. I've read about it many times, but who do you talk to about it, other than others that have read, witnessed, seen or heard, the same thing. Strength in numbers and some how were asked to come or invited or your curiosity abounded and led you hear.
There will be bumpy roads of purging negative programmed ego. It takes time...funny I never paid attention to the many years a monk goes through in meditation. However, now that I know about "peace of mind," I do it as often as possible when there is a quiet moment in this wild, crazy, wicked, good, loving world. Yes, it's all that and more and worth the prayer, if you ask me. Love doesn't hurt, and practicing what a very obviously patient Christ practiced in love and firm guidance, NOT force, is better for some than other. Some need the snake, some need the smoke and mirrors of life. I'll take the way of Yeshua and love my neighbors unconditionally without judgement as often as I can practice it. You see, I'm not perfect, and nobody on this earth is.
Insulting the situation, doesn't resolve one thing in the least. Got any other solutions besides praying to our God/Source/Creator?
Good day.:amen:
Lifebringer
12th April 2014, 10:47
I agree Gerald, I thought it was going to be a wonderful place to be but find that there is so much "New Age Bull****" passed around here that it is hurting any move forward for us. I was out(Live on the radio) two days after Sandy Hook telling everyone it was a hoax yet there are quite a few people here that still can't see the truth. How can we move forward when people can't face the ugly truth of what is going on around us. I'm not looking to insult anyone here. I am only stating fact. There are some here that are right on board and see what is going on.
"WE" know what is going on around us, "we" are the same ones who said 911 was an inside job from day one. I myself was called "unpatriotic" for even thinking someone in government would do this. WE/you/I, all know better now, eh? Is that not awareness? Unless you have some magic wand to make it go away, I suggest you tell us what you plan on doing. Come, come, you must have some idea of the perfect solution to stopping wanton murder of children in schools, and terror in America? Huh? I can't hear you, would you repeat that?
nothing to move us forward or stop what is coming down on us. We all have a job to do and those of us working hard to point out the problems that we face are going down with the ship of people who are doing nothing to help. In fact they are allowing others to believe that they don't have to do anything and everything will be fine.
We have a group of people working very hard to get us locked into something that we will not be able to escape once locked into it. None of us are creating it by wishing it to happen. They are doing it. Our inaction is allowing it.
I sense fear of not knowing what they'll do next, and the need to do something urgent now, but please use guidance in what you do. Some are heroes and some are devout and you can't get them to kill, unless they are in the face danger. I've had such a rough one on the planet, don't mind moving on. Not suicidally, but seriously not afraid of death, not finishing some material goal of finance or the wheel of fortune that will end up in someone else's pocket anyway. Talk about American nightmare. Day in day out chugging away, only to die poor anyway and probably be bumped off by taking a medication, that you can't stop unless you tell the doctor first.
Slow death to their profit, that's all this 3d is.
My job is to prevent those things from occurring/happening to my children without shoot first ask questions later. WE saw how well that worked with Bush. , but it has to be spread far and wide to cast the net of success for us, eh? It's slow, I know, but how do you think God's feels waiting for US to mature and not hate others not colored, gendred, or hair of ourselves. He gave us the rules, and Moses was blessed with Universal Laws, to give, but...they got smashed. WE all want the truth and nothing but the truth to make the valid decisions on guilt or innocence. But some things are simply not our job.:wizard:
If you jump too soon, you guys are gonna hang yourself and start the ball rolling before we are prepared.:ohwell:
This is NOT true, but if you tip the hand before the game is played, you "might get played." The truth of what has been happening didn't get this far, but insults and disbelief once the evidence is stocked up. You can't close the cage, until you're sure you have the BEAST. It's corporate in nature and technical with it's many arms. What we cannot do, we ask the Creator and all his Universal and Heavenly Host to spiritually remove. Are you an exorcist? Do you believe some people are possessed? Do you believe they have the microchip for easier possession of the vehicle, if the soul is strong in faith?
The first step is for us to reach as many of our brothers and sisters as possible and teach them the truth. Only then can we begin to fight this. They are making this difficult because they control the media so do not trust anything that come from them! Use it against them by exposing them and thier lies. I have been in this fight for twenty years now and I will go down fighting. Please join me for our sake.
Thank you for saying that, because I think we just have a tired traveler/soul that is anxious.:clap2::rockon:
We must be as meticulous as they are. Sorta be wise as the serpent, but gentle as a lamb in our lives, but seriously ready when the time comes to put it all on the line if it means family, country takeover of martial law. let's just leave it at that because some people come here to push buttons and "see" what is the plan. So far by not planning, and putting it together here, we are safe. The one place you don't want the plan is on the net, until it's time. People will think for themselves by witnessing the same net trying to close in on them. They will be looking for us to assure them we also know and are standing ready to prosecute them and throw them "under the jail/hell." One to the head is too good for them after enslaving everybody in life.
We've had doubters and trolls that try to cast doubt here before. They've gone and come back when there are no more answers to there questions because the system's rigged that if you mention, their unmentionable publicly, you can be killed. Careful steps are SURE steps to progress and success. I have a question for you.
Suppose there is a God..suppose he comes around/his heaven comes around at a certain time since the beginning of time and we were put on this planet with a number of days? Until his return to judge? Just suppose that time is now, and it was kept from you by distractions, lies, wars, grief, misery, lack, always needing, until your mind is so full, you can't think/aren't aware of what is around you going on?
I think you get my depiction, and I think you and I together can do something, but alone, we'd be just like the others who have simply been discredited, or mysteriously lost in the mind of the time that is now. Material world of hoodwinking the people into slavery.
Matt P
12th April 2014, 12:58
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
I'll spare you the sympathy. You want a place where everything that is published is the pure, unvarnished truth and the people are perfect and hold hands and sing We Are the World? I'm not sure what dream world you live in but that place doesn't exist in this earth reality at this moment. This is the Age of Information and, in case you haven't noticed, there is a WAR on for the control of that information and, thus, the control of the people with it. This information war can be ugly, challenging and painful but you HAVE to wade through the good and the bad to arrive at understanding. But some people don't have the stomach for it and they just want someone to hold their hand, wipe their butt and give them all the perfect answers and make it all OK. Every site, and I mean every single one, where you can get the highest truth also has disinformation and misinformation! I believe Mark Twain once said something like "If you don't read the newspapers, you are uninformed; if you do, you are misinformed." What has changed in all that time, huh?? It is simply the nature of the beast right now. You either maneuver in it or you get out of the boat and watch others who aren't afraid. But, hey, that's ok that you want to walk away from what I've found to be one of the best sources of information on this rock. The battle will carry on with or without you and WE WILL WIN with or without you, too. Good luck. When you find that place where there's no speculation and no one perpetrating bullsh**, do stop back by and let us know where that is.
Matt
(Hey, what, he asked for no sympathy)
[edit: Geez, this is a PEOPLE driven information site, not a media outlet with paid journalists. And thank goodness!! And you expect perfection??]
sirdipswitch
12th April 2014, 13:05
When someone anounces leaving, it always makes me wonder what sort of emotional problems they are suffering from. cc. As we see by his/her post, Precog agrees with OP, but, hasn't run off crying that it isn't a good place to be. Nope, he/she has stuck around, and even contributed over those years from time to time, and I'm sure that all are better for that contribution, just as we probly would if Gerald stuck around to throw bits of wisdom at us here and there. WE might even say Thank You Gerald, from time to time. But, if YOU just up and run off, in the face of difficulty, how could we ever thank you for anything.
Can y'all tell that I don't care for jerks comin here, tellin us we don't cater to their needs?
LIGHTEN UP gerald,
TOMORO YOU MAY GET JUST WHAT YOU CAME HERE FOR.:wizard:
Matt P
12th April 2014, 13:06
I absolutely, positively LOVE this site. The good, the bad, the ugly, the enlightened, the brilliant, the stupid...ALL of it. I don't expect an information utopia. I love the taste, sound, feel and smell of the raw hunt for truth. Thanks to all of you who bring all this to the site every day and to the ones who started it!
Matt
Grizz Griswold
12th April 2014, 13:34
G don't take it all so seriously, sometimes I get very serious and compassionate about the things I speak of and when I do people usually just ignore me, what the crap? If you really brought people to a point of actual awakening then they would just have to kill you, hehe. Take a gander at Bill Hicks analogy of this and have a laugh... some may have to excuse the spicy language.....your friend.....Grizz
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Tesla_WTC_Solution
12th April 2014, 13:59
I just got up at 6:30am on a Saturday morning, so something important must be happening --
GP remember, in spite of whatever "quirks" this community might have, it takes faith to launch any large project like this.
I don't know and can't say that I am privy to the "real deal" of what's what.
But what I can appreciate is a forum with minimal censorship and high standards, and 20,000,000 views...
I am guessing PA isn't the first site people make fun of when they talk about the "alt" community.
There are elements of survivalism, commune, sanctuary here.
It's not the foyer where the troops wait around chest beating before going to "Occupy XYZ" --
but what other site have you visited where people talk openly about UFOs, but on PA UFO watching isn't just some hobby, it's what we hope for.
I don't know anything about scientology etc. and no one has tried to force me to.
But I can appreciate the open-mindedness and cautious hopefulness with which some people anticipate meeting beings from elsewhere.
And the focus remains heavily yet upon human problems at PA...
I'd say the site is doing a pretty good job...?
:)
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
Gerald Paris
12th April 2014, 21:53
"EVERYONE'S a jerk. You, me,... that jerk,...." - Bender (Futurama)
Expectations and preconceptions are the route of all disappointment. Consequently, the key to not being disappointed is to not be pre-appointed to a particular outcome to begin with.
So they are not naive dreamers but conscious dreamers.
There is a difference.
You are both correct in my opinion : ) I did have a preconceived notion as to what I was expecting upon being a member of this forum. Thank you for adding to the conversation.
You want a place where everything that is published is the pure, unvarnished truth and the people are perfect and hold hands and sing We Are the World? .... some people don't have the stomach for it and they just want someone to hold their hand, wipe their butt and give them all the perfect answers and make it all OK.
[edit: Geez, this is a PEOPLE driven information site, not a media outlet with paid journalists. And thank goodness!! And you expect perfection??]
I never once stated that I wanted or was even looking for this fantasy place you assume I am looking for. What I said was I was looking for the possibility of gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. It would do you well to cease your inference on things folks say. in doing so you may actually find what it is that they are saying, instead of what you want them to say. I am happy for you that you love this forum so much. it would seem that you belong.
I love the taste, sound, feel and smell of the raw hunt for truth.
I seriously have my doubts about that.
Can y'all tell that I don't care for jerks comin here, tellin us we don't cater to their needs?
LIGHTEN UP gerald,
I can and I will do my best.
G don't take it all so seriously, sometimes I get very serious and compassionate about the things I speak of and when I do people usually just ignore me, what the crap? If you really brought people to a point of actual awakening then they would just have to kill you, hehe. Take a gander at Bill Hicks analogy of this and have a laugh... some may have to excuse the spicy language.....your friend.....Grizz
It is hard not to take this existence seriously. I have lived the vast majority of my existence in apathy regarding reality. I get what you are saying though. n Love Bill Hicks btw thanks for sharing that little clip.
thank you all for adding to the conversation.
Be well
G
Gerald Paris
12th April 2014, 22:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPq6W1EoIc
jack
12th April 2014, 23:18
In my time here I have met many incredible people who are very well educated on not only the material world but also the spiritual worlds as well. From my own experience I have found that it is very possible to gain an adequate education on the topic of spirituality even though such information can be difficult to find (For a start, one can look into the topic of Near Death Experiences to find thousands of well documented cases which collaborate to such a fine extent that it is considered scientifically substantiated) Rare are those who pursue this knowledge, rarer still are those who then talk about it on Avalon.
I always cringe whenever I hear someone say "new age bullsh!t" because although I agree to a point that a lot of stuff that's out there regarding this topic is downright false, there is also such a large amount of incredibly beneficial information imbued in the topic that I could never say that its bull**** and in fact I would do quite the opposite and recommend everyone pursue the topic in order to learn more about the so terribly neglected yet profoundly important, spiritual aspect of our lives.
I have found good people here at avalon, people who understand that the only way to a better world is through personal change. To be the peace we wish to see rather than go about trying to fix a broken world with our broken selves. We cannot fix a broken toy with broken tools so we must first attend to our tools or more accurately, ourselves, and ensure that we do all that is in our power (of which we have many options available) to bring ourselves to a peaceful loving state of being. Only then is it possible for us to create peaceful and loving changes in the world.
There was a time when all I ever experienced in life was fighting and arguing with people, it would not matter where I went the theme would always be the same. After I learned how to release negative emotions I have been feeling an ever intensifying love within my body beyond any means of description and everywhere I go I seem to encounter the most kind, loving and sincere people. I can say without a shadow of a doubt with as much surety that the sun rises each morning, that our experience of life is determined by our level of consciousness.
I say this for one reason - This is not information that was channeled, it is not information someone gleaned from a rainbow, it is not something that was written by an author unknown, it is my own personal experience of life and emotions and how they influence the world around us in a most profoundly powerful way.
Want to change the world? Be kind, loving, and compassionate to all of life all the time. (including the bad guys).
Grizz Griswold
13th April 2014, 00:48
G.....There are a lot of varied interests here on this site, a lot aren't on the same page heck some of us don't seem to be on the same planet. We understand that some of us are extremely different at least from our viewpoints, and that's all ok. Somehow Avalon promotes a sense of peace and friendship towards one another even with those that don't agree.
I don't think we will ever solve the worlds problem by our constant attention to them and that's just my opinion, call it Law of attraction or projection or any name we can attach to it.
To me only two choices exist.....Fear or Love and we always have the ability to choose. Why are we so attracted to bad news, and things that make us worry or fearful? Can we be honest enough with ourselves to ask why we choose fear over love? The world can be a rotten place but the only thing we can actually change is our own mind about the world. It's where we all have to start. Avalon is good place to find common ground and like minds to join together.
Remember to have a fun daily dose of Bulls*#t topped with plenty of don't give a crap......all the best....Grizz
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Ahnung-quay
13th April 2014, 02:20
My experience perusing the pages of PA has been very good overall. I've added to my knowledge on many different issues that I feel are all loosely connected such as health, environment, politics, disclosure, astronomy, weather, sciences, religion, spirituality and the list goes on...
I've also enjoyed reading other's views on all of these topics and the fact that there are so many good news hounds here. It cuts my independent search time down immensely. And, I like the fact that this is not just views from people in one country. We get to hear viewpoints and news from around the world.
We're all involved in searching for the TRUTH and I feel that this forum is a pretty good platform for doing just that.
Cidersomerset
13th April 2014, 02:54
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
Every now and then someone joins for a few months and for whatever reason leaves
there have been a few over the years. Many more just stop for a while and may post
again months later. There is no need to announce you do not fit in and you do not
like some other members views . That's being a bit rude as none of us have all the
answers, just go back to being a guest, with the option of posting at a later date....
Gerald Paris
13th April 2014, 02:59
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
Every now and then someone joins for a few months and for whatever reason leaves
there have been a few over the years. Many more just stop for a while and may post
again months later. There is no need to announce you do not fit in and you do not
like some other members views . That's being a bit rude as none of us have all the
answers, just go back to being a guest, with the option of posting at a later date....
thanks for the history and the encouraging recommendation.
bruno dante
13th April 2014, 04:41
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
It's easy to fall into archetypes, Gerald. Even here. Sympathy seeking and sympathy giving are 2 examples of this, sure. And it can be annoying indeed. But you yourself are no different, really. You too are seeking attention as the "I'm above all this and I'm going to announce it to everyone" archetype. It's just as boring and predictable as the former. I've seen it a million times. I know, i get it: "Let's all rally around Gerald and his newfound authenticity movement!" To quote you: spare me.
Of course we're speculating most of the time! LOL! What else are we going to do? Implicit in alt media is this rather *obvious* notion that we're working with LIMITED INFORMATION most of the time. There's so much disinfo and nonsense out there, that if you're batting .300 I think you're still doing a hell of a job. Perpetuating bullish!t is going to occur on any site like this. It's unavoidable, like crime in big cities is unavoidable. Most are well intentioned and don't know they're doing it. But you have to weigh the sheer quality here vis a vis the nonsense to get any idea of Avalon's value. Dig a little deeper. Your take is one dimensional and myopic. And if you really feel that way, why are you wasting your time here?
Gerald Paris
13th April 2014, 04:57
But you yourself are no different, really. You too are seeking attention as the "I'm above all this and I'm going to announce it to everyone" archetype. It's just as boring and predictable as the former. I've seen it a million times. I know, i get it: "Let's all rally around Gerald and his newfound authenticity movement!"
I see what you are trying to say, though it doesn't necessarily apply to this situation. I have claimed no such thing. it is your inference that claims this. and from THAT inference, I can understand your attempt to put me in my place. you have seen that situation a "million" times, but I question if you have seen it at all, being that you have come to that conclusion from my post. I posted this out of frustration and have enjoyed the negative response it has garnered to be honest. It gives me a chance to see the dots that everyone has connected from my announcing my disgust with my own preconceived notions (which I have already admitted to having in this thread) regarding what it was that I had expected to find here. I stated nothing that is not true. and have attacked no one nor have I attempted to rally any persons to "my cause".
Of course we're speculating most of the time! LOL! What else are we going to do?
how about base our beliefs and the things we perpetrate on evidence and personal experience, instead of testimony and personal desire.
Be well
G
Milneman
13th April 2014, 05:04
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
You ever gone fishing?
Sometimes you just cast n' reel n' cast n' reel and nothing.
And then sometimes you catch something moderately interesting.
Occasionally, you'll snag on a weed.
And then along comes Nessie.
Keep your hook in the water. Just wait and eventually something or someone will come along...or it won't.
ROMANWKT
13th April 2014, 06:28
Hi Gerald
Your deduction is correct as a seeker of truth towards our real reality, once it was hard to distinguish from truth and fantasy, but there are two things to bear in mind, there is a universal law that does exist, the rules of this Matrix and within it, and then there is BELIEF, our job is to separate the two, which will bring you towards a better understanding of the problem people are dealing with. that is the task that we all should be dealing with, but many get lost in one or the other of what is and what is not.
Regards
roman
Nasu
13th April 2014, 07:27
Hi Gerald
Your deduction is correct as a seeker of truth towards our real reality, once it was hard to distinguish from truth and fantasy, but there are two things to bear in mind, there is a universal law that does exist, the rules of this Matrix and within it, and then there is BELIEF, our job is to separate the two, which will bring you towards a better understanding of the problem people are dealing with. that is the task that we all should be dealing with, but many get lost in one or the other of what is and what is not.
Regards
roman
I agree with Roman, the journey begins with just one step, the path is winding, twisting and full of deception, but we search because deep down we BELEVE we can find the answers we seek... It is that beleaf that fuels the search. Whether or not this is the right group for you only you can decide, there are many groups to choose from after all. Or you could start your own group, or continue alone... My own thought on your moment of clarity is we must ask not what the group can offer us but rather what, if anything you have to offer this group???
I don't mean to sound mean, it's just that we have all run out of time. There is so much bs out there, in here and everywhere, its hard to see who our real allies are these days. Best foot forward for a bright future I say, one that has room for all of us, whether your with us or not.... Choice is after all, our last held freedom... Best of luck on your path, till next time... N
Joanne Shepard
13th April 2014, 11:57
Never mind ...
Laughed out loud Calamus, we get what your trying to say, and hope you don't give up in your searching. Lots of new topics each day, no they are not all about Ancient Global Civilizations (my fav) :)
Billy
13th April 2014, 12:51
I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth.
When we have expectations of gaining something the expectation usually brings disappointment.
I have found out on my journey, that receiving something comes after giving something with no expectations of gaining from my giving.
The universal natural laws of what goes around, comes around, comes into play.
therefore be careful when you express things like
Ignorant fibbers in the congregation.
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Do not allow yourself to be attached to others truths or what you believe to be lies, There is never any requirement in believing others truths, Do not judge others truths, One can never make a difference by judging others truths,
What is your truth is what is important. Only your truth can make a difference.
A good example is Simon, He has his own belief system. He expresses his truth yet he is judged and attacked because of his truth. There is no requirement in believing Simon's truth. I do not agree with everything Simon expresses but i have great respect and honour him and his truth. This goes for everyone here.
If everyone is flexible with their truths, then there is room for refinement.
Every little piece of the jigsaw will one day be refined and will slot into place revealing the bigger picture. We just have to work together and have patience.
Be well
G
Be well, Go well and Give well, with no expectations of gaining something in return. Then see what comes your way.
my thoughts.
peace be with you and may it come through you.
Grizz Griswold
13th April 2014, 13:28
“Life isn't as serious as the mind makes it out to be.”
― Eckhart Tolle
When you’re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in America, you get a front-row seat. George Carlin
“Wanting to reform the world without discovering one's true self is like trying to cover the world with leather to avoid the pain of walking on stones and thorns. It is much simpler to wear shoes.”
― Ramana Maharshi
“With our thoughts we make the world.” ― Gautama Buddha
Perception is but a mirror, not a fact. What I look on is my state of mind reflected outward. ACIM
all the best......Grizz
Gerald Paris
13th April 2014, 14:40
Hi Gerald
Your deduction is correct as a seeker of truth towards our real reality, once it was hard to distinguish from truth and fantasy, but there are two things to bear in mind, there is a universal law that does exist, the rules of this Matrix and within it, and then there is BELIEF, our job is to separate the two, which will bring you towards a better understanding of the problem people are dealing with. that is the task that we all should be dealing with, but many get lost in one or the other of what is and what is not.
Regards
roman
You are amazing and I love it.
Billy, Thank you and I will do my best to remember sound advice. Refinement is my ultimate goal in this walk. I want to thank you for taking the time to read what was said, and for responding accordingly. you too, are amazing.
Grizz...all the best back at you yo.
dianna
14th April 2014, 00:54
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
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Gerald Paris
14th April 2014, 03:13
Gather around spewing sympathy,
Spare me.
It was enjoyable for a very short time. I was really looking forward to linking with like minded people and possibly gaining a better perspective on reality and truth. HA! a lot of the posts here are pure speculation and folks perpetrating bullsh.
Be well
G
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Thank you for adding your deep, insightful wisdom and understanding to the conversation
Be well
Carmen
14th April 2014, 03:33
Everyone has their own unique truth. Truth for me is only what I have experienced first hand as truth. Otherwise it's belief, philosophy and conjecture. I also create my own reality. When it gets a bit ****ty I examine the thought processes I have been having to find a reason.
In my journey of discovery, of searching for truth, I've kind of explored many systems, many philosophies, religions, ( though not so much of religions). They have all delivered something, but then I move on. Over the years I have learned to be tolerant of others and their own explorations. Who am I to judge what is true for someone else. To me, the majority of people are doing the best they can with where they are, their upbringing and their circumstances.
My pet hate is someone trying to curtail my exploration! How dare they! I want the freedom to choose, not someone telling what to avoid. Afterall, some of my best learning has been from negative **** that I never wish to repeat, but it's all "grist for the mill"..
Gerald Paris
24th December 2014, 15:44
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