Orbs Killing Chemtrails

[aviators]

This was posted before deep in the up at the ranch thread last year.
Though it looked interesting enough to bring it front and center.
The end of the video (at3:25) shows the orbs really well !

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[Sidney]

I have a feeling the orbs are somehow PART of the chemtrailing. Because I don't seen anything killing any chemtrails. If there were any good entities in the world that are trying to help with this issue, they need to start taking down those planes. This problem is far to big to be handled by these orbs, because these orbs have been filmed within the trails for years. The problem has only gotten worse.

[aviators]

I have a feeling the orbs are somehow PART of the chemtrailing. Because I don't seen anything killing any chemtrails. If there were any

Sidney That is very possible. In this case it does look like the trail was dissipating. I often wounder if planes alone could
even handle the amount of coverage we see in our skies today?

[DeDukshyn]

I see regular contrails and bugs. Sorry. :(

[Tyy1907]

They do seem to dissipate in the video. Not like the ones around here that just spread and spread.

[aviators]

I see regular contrails and bugs. Sorry. :(

I cant say it looks like bugs on this footage.

Just a couple observations. If you stop the video at 3:30 mark and go full screen.
What is that round thing ?? looks like a orb ?

Also would bugs all be flying in the same direction? Don't know?

[Sidney]

Yeah, I don't have all the answers. I wish I did. :( However, BUGS? Um not so much. lol

[DeDukshyn]

I see regular contrails and bugs. Sorry. :(

I cant say it looks like bugs on this footage.

Just a couple observations. If you stop the video at 3:30 mark and go full screen.
What is that round thing ?? looks like a orb ?

Also would bugs all be flying in the same direction? Don't know?

I think perhaps you are right ... more like thistle, milkweed, dandelion, cottonwood, etc fluffs? I used to stare up at the sky a lot as a kid ... tons of stuff floats by that can be caught be a zoomed in camera where it appears out of focus.

Sorry again. But no .. nothing to see in my honest opinion.

[Sidney]

A lot of times the chemtrails sift white debri that falls. In this video, whatever they are, are all falling the same direction, pretty much downward. Thistle fluff does not fly around at jet altitudes so pretty sure we can rule that out. It is not bugs. It either some sort of orb, or its chemical. This of course my opinion only. I happen to think that it is something to see. Whatever it is, it is not natural.

[Blacklight43]

Just thinking out loud here....but maybe the whole purpose of chemtrails is to keep us from seeing what is really going on out there!???

[Earth Angel]

or the purpose is to create a screen on which to show the holographic alien invasion they are planning...but of course that doesn't explain why they've been spraying us for years...


Just thinking out loud here....but maybe the whole purpose of chemtrails is to keep us from seeing what is really going on out there!???

[DeDukshyn]

I just watched the video again, and I have to debunk this.

First of all, certain people have chemtrails too much on the brain and try to fit the concept into scenarios where it doesn't fit. Planes produce contrails in various ways -- always has, always will. The main difference one can determine between these completely normal contrails and a full-on chemtrail is that chemtrails do not dissipate well at all and often form into clouds, and a regular contrail usually visually disappears 0.5 - 1 km behind the plane - more or less depending on the conditions -- sometimes they don't appear at all.

So now in the video we have normal contrails, that always behaved exactly like shown in the video, as I recall completely from observing these as a youth in late seventies early eighties, before chemtrails started being heavily sprayed.

Does it make sense that this is a long lasting chemtrail (not qualified at all) that behaves exactly like a normal contrail, is actually a chemtrail being augmented to make it behave like a contrail by tiny white "orbs"? Or does it make sense there's nothing special happening? I mean why make up a spectacular story to describe something normal .. unless perhaps one didn't know the difference?

Its a windy day -- I can hear the wind blowing on the camera's mic. All the orbs are travelling one single direction. They all look like the millions of white fluffs and other things that flow by on any given spring day. (I used to lay outside staring up a lot as a child). After a while you can see all these things floating by on the wind -- the sky can be full of them on a windy spring day. Notice all the orbs are just travelling in one direction? Consistent with wind blowing fluffs. We know the wind is blowing as we can hear it. Some orbs seem to travel faster than others -- due to the result of perspective, some are close to the camera and others much farther -- indicating they are no where near the contrail at all, but much lower, and in a large variety of heights which easily explains the "apparent" speed differences between them.

I'll challenge anyone to lay out and stare up on a windy spring day where there's fluffs floating by, high in the air, film it and post it back here. Even add the edge detect algorithm - it will look identical, I promise you this ;)

The same wind that is pushing the fluffs is also causing quick dissipation of the contrail. It is not a mystery, just mistaken identity (both "chemtrail" and "orb"). I am speaking from first hand experience.

My 2 cents ;)

[Sidney]

HI Dedukshyn, For non personal reasons, can I ask what age group you are? I only ask, because, the geoengineering program began in the lat 90s, the daily spraying anyway, and now, even when it appears to be a clear non spraying day, there is a layer of "stuff, for lack of a better word", up high, above cloud level.

When I was a kid, and even young adult, I laid in the yard many many times, and the fluff did not exist. Maybe a tiny bit. But now there is always, just ALOT of stuff blowing around. If you go out on a clear even non windy day, block the sun with your hand and see how much stuff there is that we are breathing. It simply did not used to be there 20 and 30 years ago. Not to mention the sky was deep blue. My child will never see the sky I grew up with.
This is not chemtrails. This is geoengineering. I am sorry that it exists. You simply cannot argue it anymore because it is all not even classified anymore. It is all documented. And has been released, and is available for anyone who wishes to read it. I truly wish I could go back 10 years, and have a re do, where I never found about all this crap, because I truly wish I didn't know sometimes.(most of the time).
As far as this particular video, the orbs could be dust.
I have a friendly orb in my house that I video occasionally, but in the process I discovered that dust looks alot like my orb, only there is hundreds of them, and not just one. And dust all goes the same relative direction.

And this video here is really not a good example of whether or not it is a geoengineering tanker, or if its just a contrail. But there are many many videos on YT that indeed show orbs flying around the trail cloud. I don't know what they are. But it is my strong belief, that the geoengineering program is real, has been for amost 2 decades, and why they are doing it is still up in the air. LOL (no pun intended).

[DeDukshyn]

HI Dedukshyn, For non personal reasons, can I ask what age group you are? I only ask, because, the geoengineering program began in the lat 90s, the daily spraying anyway, and now, even when it appears to be a clear non spraying day, there is a layer of "stuff, for lack of a better word", up high, above cloud level.

When I was a kid, and even young adult, I laid in the yard many many times, and the fluff did not exist. Maybe a tiny bit. But now there is always, just ALOT of stuff blowing around. If you go out on a clear even non windy day, block the sun with your hand and see how much stuff there is that we are breathing. It simply did not used to be there 20 and 30 years ago. Not to mention the sky was deep blue. My child will never see the sky I grew up with.
This is not chemtrails. This is geoengineering. I am sorry that it exists. You simply cannot argue it anymore because it is all not even classified anymore. It is all documented. And has been released, and is available for anyone who wishes to read it. I truly wish I could go back 10 years, and have a re do, where I never found about all this crap, because I truly wish I didn't know sometimes.(most of the time).
As far as this particular video, the orbs could be dust.
I have a friendly orb in my house that I video occasionally, but in the process I discovered that dust looks alot like my orb, only there is hundreds of them, and not just one. And dust all goes the same relative direction.

And this video here is really not a good example of whether or not it is a geoengineering tanker, or if its just a contrail. But there are many many videos on YT that indeed show orbs flying around the trail cloud. I don't know what they are. But it is my strong belief, that the geoengineering program is real, has been for amost 2 decades, and why they are doing it is still up in the air. LOL (no pun intended).

Couple things:

1) I am 40. Grew up in the 80s.
2) I don't think you've ever had the privilege of living near Cottonwood trees, incredibly majestic trees, but messy -- check here: vy0sAJ5WWKo

3) I am referring to the video only and not giving an opinion about whether I think orbs or chemtrails existing or other videos.
4) I only debunked the video -- not the idea ;)

[Sunny-side-up]

They do seem to dissipate in the video. Not like the ones around here that just spread and spread.

Try this Tyy1907:

Will your intent and spirit into the trails, the intent being 'Your not wanted here, your doing harm so go away, turn into something good!

Then add visualization of it happening and it works. I was doing this the other day, the trailers where out trying to spoil my sky's and I wouldn't let them!

[Sidney]

HI Dedukshyn, For non personal reasons, can I ask what age group you are? I only ask, because, the geoengineering program began in the lat 90s, the daily spraying anyway, and now, even when it appears to be a clear non spraying day, there is a layer of "stuff, for lack of a better word", up high, above cloud level.

When I was a kid, and even young adult, I laid in the yard many many times, and the fluff did not exist. Maybe a tiny bit. But now there is always, just ALOT of stuff blowing around. If you go out on a clear even non windy day, block the sun with your hand and see how much stuff there is that we are breathing. It simply did not used to be there 20 and 30 years ago. Not to mention the sky was deep blue. My child will never see the sky I grew up with.
This is not chemtrails. This is geoengineering. I am sorry that it exists. You simply cannot argue it anymore because it is all not even classified anymore. It is all documented. And has been released, and is available for anyone who wishes to read it. I truly wish I could go back 10 years, and have a re do, where I never found about all this crap, because I truly wish I didn't know sometimes.(most of the time).
As far as this particular video, the orbs could be dust.
I have a friendly orb in my house that I video occasionally, but in the process I discovered that dust looks alot like my orb, only there is hundreds of them, and not just one. And dust all goes the same relative direction.

And this video here is really not a good example of whether or not it is a geoengineering tanker, or if its just a contrail. But there are many many videos on YT that indeed show orbs flying around the trail cloud. I don't know what they are. But it is my strong belief, that the geoengineering program is real, has been for amost 2 decades, and why they are doing it is still up in the air. LOL (no pun intended).

Couple things:

1) I am 40. Grew up in the 80s.
2) I don't think you've ever had the privilege of living near Cottonwood trees, incredibly majestic trees, but messy -- check here: vy0sAJ5WWKo

3) I am referring to the video only and not giving an opinion about whether I think orbs or chemtrails existing or other videos.
4) I only debunked the video -- not the idea ;)

Yes, I had acreage with cotton trees. They only shed for a month out of the year.

[aviators]

This thread was not really intended to cause a debate on weather chemtrails
are real or not. Or that orbs are real or not. We seem to have enough evidence
that they are real.:p :cool:

I just thought the black and white footage towards the end of the video was very interesting.
Perhaps it is some kind of dust that's out of focus. ??
However the dust looks to move in strait lines. Perhaps heavy like hail?
The donut shaped orbs are quite interesting. :shocked:
Perhaps some camera guys can chime in.

[DeDukshyn]

This thread was not really intended to cause a debate on weather chemtrails
are real or not. Or that orbs are real or not. We seem to have enough evidence
that they are real.:p :cool:

I just thought the black and white footage towards the end of the video was very interesting.
Perhaps it is some kind of dust that's out of focus. ??
However the dust looks to move in strait lines. Perhaps heavy like hail?
The donut shaped orbs are quite interesting. :shocked:
Perhaps some camera guys can chime in.

I am a camera guy. They look like donuts due to the effect applied as indicated in the video itself -- it is a very heavily processed "edge detect" algorithm that was applied after the fact with video editing software. I also use photo/video editing software and video effects as part of my job. On the original camera the fluffs are somewhat out of focus, therefore appear as round points of light due to an effect called bokeh. you can see this here: http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/230/8/2/Bokeh_lights_IIII_by_elieang.jpg When you apply a heavy edge detect algorithm to round spheres as this you get donuts. They move pretty much in a straight line because the wind at altitude usually blows in a straight line.

All this is so easily explainable.

Again I am not arguing chemtrails or orbs, but I know what I know.

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Yes, I had acreage with cotton trees. They only shed for a month out of the year.

Yes you are correct. I'd rule them out if the video had lasted for several months, but it is only a few seconds :P (but that still may leave thistle, milkweed, dandelion, and a plethora of other possibilities.)

[aviators]

DeDukshyn Thanks for that explanation.
I have seen this effect before (the link you provided),but not the donut effect.
I did a quick search for "edge detect software effects" and "bokeh". No donuts.

If you really look at the video full screen, It looks a lot like hail.
Air born pollen doesn't move that fast. IMHO
The black and white edge effects is in slow motion I believe.

[DeDukshyn]

DeDukshyn Thanks for that explanation.
I have seen this effect before (the link you provided),but not the donut effect.
I did a quick search for "edge detect software effects" and "bokeh". No donuts.

If you really look at the video full screen, It looks a lot like hail.
Air born pollen doesn't move that fast. IMHO
The black and white edge effects is in slow motion I believe.

The bokeh effect is an "out of focus" effect -- it will turn any shape of light into a sphere -- as shown in the previous link - so there are the round shapes created from possibly less round shapes, due to the fact that the camera is focused to the trails, and the fluffs are between the camera and the trail -- they are out of focus, and generating a bit of the bokeh effect so they look like spheres.

The video creator used an edge detect effect using video editing software after the video was taken. What an edge detect effect does, as you may guess, is it finds the edges and flattens all the other colours to emphasize edges only. Imagine heavily emphasizing edges of a flat looking sphere, what do you see? Donuts. These effects usually have variables so the effect can be adjusted for edge width (more or less donut) and emphasis etc.

Here is a picture of the Taj Mahal with an edge detect effect. It is not hard to see that if the effect was applied to a round shape - you would get donuts.

http://s.codeproject.com/KB/openGL/EdgeDetection/EdgeDetection_CartoonEffectOff.jpg


As to the speed; fluffs are light and travel at wind speed, wind travels faster at higher altitudes than ground level. Don't confuse pollen with plant seeds that have fluff carriers -- they are not the same - pollen is microscopic, cottonwood and thistle fluffs can be varying sizes and often large. Since there is nothing in the edge detect part of the image to say how zoomed in the image is, nor can we tell how far away these fluffs are from the camera, there is absolutely no way to determine what the speed actually is. That said, in my opinion, it looked exactly the right speed to me for a strong wind (as heard on the cameras mic in the video, and as to push the fluffs in a straight line) blowing fluffs in the wind. I have seen it before with my own eyes it looked exactly the same except without the contrails.

[DeDukshyn]

Just to further show that I do indeed know what I am talking about, I took a frame from the video I posted above of cottwood fluffs blowing in the wind, applied a camera lens blur (to simulate a somewhat out of focus image - the bokeh), then applied an edge detect effect, and I got donuts :) (click images for larger view)


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[HolyDiver]

I have a feeling the orbs are somehow PART of the chemtrailing. Because I don't seen anything killing any chemtrails. If there were any good entities in the world that are trying to help with this issue, they need to start taking down those planes. This problem is far to big to be handled by these orbs, because these orbs have been filmed within the trails for years. The problem has only gotten worse.

The chem trails here in Jay county, Indiana ( USA) are constant. If we have a sunny, chem trail free day, that is not the normal day here. I watch these planes close. Some are a almost clear white, if there is such a thing and they will virtually disappear right in front of your eyes. Some planes have sound and no trail. And a few weeks ago, I saw a brand new chem trail, that starts to break up at the end of the trail, like a crackling effect. Then it is gone, so you will think it's a contrail. These terrorists are using different tactics basically every week. The disappointing thing for me is that nobody seems to notice. But when I mention it, they don't seem to care. They really almost seem embarrassed to talk about it. The man made weather here is very unpredictable. This would be common in Colorado, but not here in Indiana. And my soil is so bad, the past 2 years, my normal 200 tomato plants was reduced to about a dozen and all of them looked pathetic.

[Sidney]

I have a feeling the orbs are somehow PART of the chemtrailing. Because I don't seen anything killing any chemtrails. If there were any good entities in the world that are trying to help with this issue, they need to start taking down those planes. This problem is far to big to be handled by these orbs, because these orbs have been filmed within the trails for years. The problem has only gotten worse.

The chem trails here in Jay county, Indiana ( USA) are constant. If we have a sunny, chem trail free day, that is not the normal day here. I watch these planes close. Some are a almost clear white, if there is such a thing and they will virtually disappear right in front of your eyes. Some planes have sound and no trail. And a few weeks ago, I saw a brand new chem trail, that starts to break up at the end of the trail, like a crackling effect. Then it is gone, so you will think it's a contrail. These terrorists are using different tactics basically every week. The disappointing thing for me is that nobody seems to notice. But when I mention it, they don't seem to care. They really almost seem embarrassed to talk about it. The man made weather here is very unpredictable. This would be common in Colorado, but not here in Indiana. And my soil is so bad, the past 2 years, my normal 200 tomato plants was reduced to about a dozen and all of them looked pathetic.
I am only a state over, and I agree with you wholeheartedly on all points. You nailed it when you said "terrorists".

[Sidney]

Here is another interesting analysis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4byMQIk_iGQ

[aviators]

This last video is very interesting. Thanks Sidney.
Looks like we will see more obs around chemtrails.
We have many theories but no real answers.
I have to agree with the video maker."they are under intelligent control"
Perhaps they are good guys , just no one seems to know?

[DeDukshyn]

This last video is very interesting. Thanks Sidney.
Looks like we will see more obs around chemtrails.
We have many theories but no real answers.
I have to agree with the video maker."they are under intelligent control"
Perhaps they are good guys , just no one seems to know?

I would concur - the last video grabs my attention a bit. I had no immediate "debunkables" with that one.

At the same time the video really makes some speculations. I would say there is no evidence the cloud is a chemtrail and there's no evidence the orb is doing something to it. But the orb is there and does appear to be launching a projectile - this alone is a bit interesting. But I do wonder why the second orb seen is never mentioned? An oversight?

[Sidney]

There was also something that dropped right near the one shooting the whatever. LOL, excuse my first grade level sentence:D My opinion, for whatever its worth, and I am just going on observation and my own research, and researching other ppls research, but many speculate, myself included, that the entire chemtrail project, geoengineering, is alien technology. And I base this on the inclusion of clifford carnicoms research as well as the Morgellons community. I have seen the nano tech magnified hundreds of times under microscope, and (some) of the stuff that is sprayed, that has webs floating to the ground, is indeed self replicating wires, for lack of a better word. And yes we have all been breathing it for at minimum ten years. Do not take my word for it, go to Clifford Carnicoms site and all of the documentation/videos/photos are there. The man should get a NOBEL prize IMO for his work. And he is doing it independently.
Now, assuming I am right on the alien tech part, my opinion about the orb shooting something is that is could be ANYTHING. But my gut instinct tells me that, whatever it is, it is not good. This is only an opinion. But mainly, I come to that conclusion because orbs have been seen and filmed inside these trails for years, and the chemtrails are still happening, the skies are still full of toxic soup, people continue to have heavy metal type illnesses that the numbers are still rising at an astonishing rate.

Even if it is not alien tech, and it is military doing this, it could be ANYTHING, because we all know that our military govt has been spraying us with "stuff" for many decades.

[aviators]

There was also something that dropped right near the one shooting the whatever. LOL, excuse my first grade level sentence:D My opinion, for whatever its worth, and I am just going on observation and my own research, and researching other ppls research, but many speculate, myself included, that the entire chemtrail project, geoengineering, is alien technology. And I base this on the inclusion of clifford carnicoms research as well as the Morgellons community. I have seen the nano tech magnified hundreds of times under microscope, and (some) of the stuff that is sprayed, that has webs floating to the ground, is indeed self replicating wires, for lack of a better word. And yes we have all been breathing it for at minimum ten years. Do not take my word for it, go to Clifford Carnicoms site and all of the documentation/videos/photos are there. The man should get a NOBEL prize IMO for his work. And he is doing it independently.
Now, assuming I am right on the alien tech part, my opinion about the orb shooting something is that is could be ANYTHING. But my gut instinct tells me that, whatever it is, it is not good. This is only an opinion. But mainly, I come to that conclusion because orbs have been seen and filmed inside these trails for years, and the chemtrails are still happening, the skies are still full of toxic soup, people continue to have heavy metal type illnesses that the numbers are still rising at an astonishing rate.

Even if it is not alien tech, and it is military doing this, it could be ANYTHING, because we all know that our military govt has been spraying us with "stuff" for many decades.

Your paragraph packs a very deep message. Whatever is going on in our skies
its way beyond our comprehension and imagination. Honestly I don't think military
could do this alone.The logistics of loading big aircraft with "the stuff" is hard
to believe. Ive said it before, the planes are just decoys. Sidney you are
likely correct about ET technology. It's really hard watching this day after day.
I hope something for the good breaks soon.

[Sidney]

Thank you aviators. It is heartbreaking the true scope of this issue.

[aviators]

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Orbs have been seen around and making crop circles as well.
Some of the intricate designs and patterns are mind blowing.
Who or what they are I don't know. Perhaps they could put there
technology to good use.